Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: The NEW GANG

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Heryadi
Kalo menurut Boss JA bagaimana?berapa support IHSG?
soale pas Agst kemaren ramalan boss JA IHSG mo ke 1.800 ok juga tuch.
Mungkin sekarang bisa kasih gambaran lagi ke kite kite. Thanks


  - Original Message - 
  From: oentoeng_qq 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 1:28 PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: The NEW GANG


  Mbah pesennya CUMAN ATI2. 
  Terus terang saya masih main TABRAK LARI untuk nyoba MARKET.
  Masih harus nunggu MINGGU INI untuk CONFIRM.
  Kalau BOZZ malah AWAL BULAN DEPAN Mbah...

  NEW GANG setahu saya belon ada, tapi masih ngeliat sbg NEW TRICK...
  Saya denger di GUDANG memang ada 2 BOM miliknya Ms. EL kali?
  Kita tunggu aja...

  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"  wrote:
  >
  > Hari ini muncul beberapa broker dengan volume transaksi yg GEDE
  > yg TIDAK BIASANYA
  > 
  > Is it a new GANG/BOSS ?.
  > 
  > Atau untuk menjaga KERAHASIAN serangan hari ini, supaya 
  > ENGGA BOCOR ?. 
  > 
  > Any info ?. Pak oentoeng ?.
  >



   


Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: The NEW GANG

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Andri Wijaya
just guess saja:
bom pertama mungkin waktu index dari 2661 ke 2446 dalam 3 hari
bom kedua index ditarik ke 3000?

On 10/23/07, oentoeng_qq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Mbah pesennya CUMAN ATI2.
> Terus terang saya masih main TABRAK LARI untuk nyoba MARKET.
> Masih harus nunggu MINGGU INI untuk CONFIRM.
> Kalau BOZZ malah AWAL BULAN DEPAN Mbah...
>
> NEW GANG setahu saya belon ada, tapi masih ngeliat sbg NEW TRICK...
> Saya denger di GUDANG memang ada 2 BOM miliknya Ms. EL kali?
> Kita tunggu aja...
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> "jsx_consultant"  [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hari ini muncul beberapa broker dengan volume transaksi yg GEDE
> > yg TIDAK BIASANYA
> >
> > Is it a new GANG/BOSS ?.
> >
> > Atau untuk menjaga KERAHASIAN serangan hari ini, supaya
> > ENGGA BOCOR ?.
> >
> > Any info ?. Pak oentoeng ?.
> >
>
>  
>


Re: [obrolan-bandar] The history of OCtober ...crash

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Rei
Mr. Lee,
   
  Thanks for the clarification. I understand now...
  Hihihihii 
   
  Rgds,
Rei

Lee Cwan Yeuw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  It is a combination : 
OIL PRICE, 
US ECONOMY_CRISIS,
BUBBLE?
SPECULATIVE TRADING (NOT INVESTMENT)
POLITIC & CAPITAL
GREEDY
ETC

I still keep all of my portfolio.
I give an information for retail trader and margin trader only.

October in this year is a very dangerous time to make a trading.

Today is green, because yesterday.. tumble

But,  What do you think if DJ will be RED tonight ?

GBU 

best regards,

LCY


  - Original Message 
From: alfian bachtiar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 23 October 2007 10:24:09
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] The history of OCtober ...crash


apakah bulan oktober selalu berpotensi crash Pak LCY ?
  APakah saham kita memang sudah bublle ?
  Memang kelihatannya kita ini tidak realistis , saham naiknya kencang seperti 
ini disuruh beli masih mau saja.
   
  Trus kapan pak LCY kita harus beli ?
   
  

 
  - Pesan Asli 
Dari: Lee Cwan Yeuw <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com.sg>
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Terkirim: Selasa, 23 Oktober, 2007 9:57:29
Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] The history of OCtober ...crash


A stock market crash is a sudden dramatic decline of stock prices across a 
significant cross-section of a stock market. Crashes are driven by panic as 
much as by underlying economic factors. They often follow speculative stock 
market bubbles.
  Stock market crashes are social phenomena where external economic events 
combine with crowd behaviour and psychology in a positive feedback loop where 
selling by some market participants drives more market participants to sell. 
Generally speaking, crashes usually occur under the following conditions: a 
prolonged period of rising stock prices and excessive economic optimism, a 
market where P/E ratios exceed long-term averages, and extensive use of margin 
debt and leverage by market participants.
  There is no numerically- specific definition of a crash but the term commonly 
applies to steep double-digit percentage losses in a stock market index over a 
period of several days. Crashes are often distinguished from bear markets by 
panic selling and abrupt, dramatic price declines. Bear markets are periods of 
declining stock market prices that are measured in months or years. While 
crashes are often associated with bear markets, they do not necessarily go hand 
in hand. The crash of 1987 for example did not lead to a bear market. Likewise, 
the Japanese Nikkei bear market of the 1990s occurred over several years 
without any notable crashes.

28 October 1997
U.S. stock markets were widely expected to open lower for October 28 due to the 
Asian markets falling even more than they did on the 27th. Hong Kong's Hang 
Seng Index declined a staggering 14%. The Nikkei fell 4.26%. The U.S. stock 
markets initially continued their drop from the 27th, but abruptly ended, and 
began to climb. The Dow was down as much as 186 points by 10:06 A.M., and soon 
thereafter a rally started. By 10:20 A.M. The Dow was down only 25 points. Five 
minutes later, the Dow roared back into positive territory and was up 50 
points. Nine minutes later at 10:34 A.M., the Dow rallied to a triple-digit 
advance up 137.27 points. Stock prices continued to soar in choppy trading 
throughout the rest of the day. At the close of trading at 4:00 P.M., the Dow 
finished with a record 337.17 point gain (recovering 61% of the previous day's 
loss) to close at 7,498.32. The market restored $384 billion of the $663 
billion in market capitalization lost the previous day. One
 billion shares were traded on the New York Stock Exchange for the first time 
ever, with a volume of 1.21 billion shares. In 2006 terms, this amount is 
considered very light. The NASDAQ Composite also made a record gain on record 
volume, gaining 67.93 to 1,603.02. The NASDAQ also saw its first-ever 
one-billion share day with 1.23 billion shares changing hands.


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[obrolan-bandar] Re: The NEW GANG

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik oentoeng_qq
Mbah pesennya CUMAN ATI2. 
Terus terang saya masih main TABRAK LARI untuk nyoba MARKET.
Masih harus nunggu MINGGU INI untuk CONFIRM.
Kalau BOZZ malah AWAL BULAN DEPAN Mbah...

NEW GANG setahu saya belon ada, tapi masih ngeliat sbg NEW TRICK...
Saya denger di GUDANG memang ada 2 BOM miliknya Ms. EL kali?
Kita tunggu aja...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"  wrote:
>
> Hari ini muncul beberapa broker dengan volume transaksi yg GEDE
> yg TIDAK BIASANYA
> 
> Is it a new GANG/BOSS ?.
> 
> Atau untuk menjaga KERAHASIAN serangan hari ini, supaya 
> ENGGA BOCOR ?. 
> 
> Any info ?. Pak oentoeng ?.
>




Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ONE more chance

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik SeViouR
selagi sempet TP mendingan TP deh.. daripada nanti nyesel  apalagi kalo dah 
dapet 20-50% mayan tuh..daripada nanti digiles DISCLAMER:ON
  - Original Message - 
  From: Vic 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 1:07 PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ONE more chance


  jemuran bandar dah pada kering blom heheheheh. udah gatel mo tp neh

  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "oentoeng_qq" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  wrote:
  >
  > Kalau ngomong jangan kenceng2.
  > Ini BELON KELUAR GOYANGANNYA
  > Karena pertandingan belon selesai...
  > 
  > 
  > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "siaw_hwe"  
  > wrote:
  > >
  > > Nunggu apa lagi? Hati2 Nuke-nya ketaun Uncle Sam.
  > > 
  > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Pedagang Kentang"
  > >  wrote:
  > > >
  > > > I'll give you ONE more CHANCE to GET OUT, tomorrow.
  > > > 
  > > > That if I am in a good mood like LCY.
  > > > 
  > > > Please get up early. You will see a huge GAP.
  > > > 
  > > > This time a NUKE BOMB is about to come. Prepare yourself.
  > > > 
  > > > Don't be afraid with the bear. Be afraid with your EGO.
  > > > 
  > > > EL.
  > > >
  > >
  >



   

[obrolan-bandar] Re: ONE more chance

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Vic
jemuran bandar dah pada kering blom heheheheh. udah gatel mo tp neh




--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "oentoeng_qq" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Kalau ngomong jangan kenceng2.
> Ini BELON KELUAR GOYANGANNYA
> Karena pertandingan belon selesai...
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "siaw_hwe"  
> wrote:
> >
> > Nunggu apa lagi? Hati2 Nuke-nya ketaun Uncle Sam.
> > 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Pedagang Kentang"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > I'll give you ONE more CHANCE to GET OUT, tomorrow.
> > > 
> > > That if I am in a good mood like LCY.
> > > 
> > > Please get up early. You will see a huge GAP.
> > > 
> > > This time a NUKE BOMB is about to come. Prepare yourself.
> > > 
> > > Don't be afraid with the bear. Be afraid with your EGO.
> > > 
> > > EL.
> > >
> >
>




Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG +70, IHSG is HEALTHY, Right ... hehehe (9:54)

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik m4573r
sama-2 mBah ...
   
  mudah2an dilain kesempatan kita bisa sama2 lagi catch the moment to make Big 
Profits.
   
  salam,
  

consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  IHSG +70, IHSG is HEALTHY, Right ... hehehe (9:54)


Capital Outflow is still TOLERABLE as embah TOLD you,
IHSG is perfectly HEALTHY

Mau dibom NUKLIR ama Mr kentang, malah jadi FRENCH FRIES lezat.. hehehe..

Special THANKS buat pak Boyz tentang DJI dan buat BOZZ yg 
engga mau portfolionya jadi angin

   
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ONE more chance

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik gambler
Rasanya top 3 value udah saatnya jual hari ini . Again "just gut feeling".

...
  - Original Message - 
  From: Andri Wijaya 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 12:30 PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ONE more chance


  ntar sore juga udah kelihatan GOYANGAN maut dari sang BOZZ
  kalu kemaren minus 110 apakah hari ini mau dibalas sama bandar
  IHSG + 100, let's see.
  BANDAR emank yahui..


  On 10/23/07, oentoeng_qq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kalau ngomong jangan kenceng2.
Ini BELON KELUAR GOYANGANNYA
Karena pertandingan belon selesai...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "siaw_hwe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 


wrote:
>
> Nunggu apa lagi? Hati2 Nuke-nya ketaun Uncle Sam.
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Pedagang Kentang"
>  wrote:
> >
> > I'll give you ONE more CHANCE to GET OUT, tomorrow.
> > 
> > That if I am in a good mood like LCY.
> > 
> > Please get up early. You will see a huge GAP.
> > 
> > This time a NUKE BOMB is about to come. Prepare yourself.
> > 
> > Don't be afraid with the bear. Be afraid with your EGO.
> > 
> > EL.
> >
>




   

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ONE more chance

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik sbudianaY
Lagi in the mood kalee, hehehe..

 

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Coba Coba
Sent: 22 Oktober 2007 23:11
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ONE more chance

 

BTW kalau Pedagang Kentang ini cewe sungguhan, tantangan dia tempo hari agar
"ludahin saya" bisa bermakna lain, ya? He..he..he

On 10/22/07, pemainedan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Sudah, jgn bermusuhan terus dong (terutama pak Rei & pak James nih). 
Semua di sini 'kan berhak mengutarakan pendapat, gaya jutek sih tdk 
apa2, si Mbah juga gak keberatan koq. 

Asal jgn ngomong kasar spt "anjing", "bedebah", dll aja... hehehe...

Kalau dia mau buang portofolio & pak Rei/James mau collect... jadi 
klop 'kan.

Lagipula, walaupun gaya jutek, saya rasa niatnya baik koq. Kasih 
warning bom dan bom yg disebutnya benar2 ada. Pertama Little Boy 
2,02% Jumat, lalu Fat Man 4,30% hari ini. 

Apa bbrp hari lagi ada Tsar Bomba? Kalau kata pak James/Rei tidak, 
ya sudah... cuekin saja miss Elaine. Tp saya yakin banyak jg yg 
mengambil manfaat dr warning miss Elaine ini. 

Ini bukan belain miss Elaine nih. Cm ya, saya akui, saya tertarik 
juga dg model cw agresif spt miss Elaine ini... hehehe...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 , "James Arifin" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ini orang bullshit juga bilang mau cao dan nggak jadi investasi di
> bursa BEJ tapi tetap balik ... emang dimana juga ada gula ada 
semut,
> stress mesti cari barang murah sebanyak-banyaknya buat persiapan
> indeks ke 4500 (2009-2011) sesuai prediksi salah satu Master TA
> 
> Regards.
> 
> On 10/22/07, Pedagang Kentang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I'll give you ONE more CHANCE to GET OUT, tomorrow.
> >
> > That if I am in a good mood like LCY.
> >
> > Please get up early. You will see a huge GAP.
> >
> > This time a NUKE BOMB is about to come. Prepare yourself.
> >
> > Don't be afraid with the bear. Be afraid with your EGO.
> >
> > EL.
> >
>

 

 

 

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[obrolan-bandar] The NEW GANG

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Hari ini muncul beberapa broker dengan volume transaksi yg GEDE
yg TIDAK BIASANYA

Is it a new GANG/BOSS ?.

Atau untuk menjaga KERAHASIAN serangan hari ini, supaya 
ENGGA BOCOR ?. 

Any info ?. Pak oentoeng ?.


 



[obrolan-bandar] DOW Future +45

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik rudy_hks2000
Kayaknya DOW mlm ini bisa rebound hijau lagi, DOW Future s/d saat ini +45.

 

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: The history of OCtober ...crash

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik putra wardana
hari minggu so what 28 0kt ga ngaruh lg
  sumpah pemuda aja kita semua dengan semangat menggelora kita serbu...

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ONE more chance

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Andri Wijaya
ntar sore juga udah kelihatan GOYANGAN maut dari sang BOZZ
kalu kemaren minus 110 apakah hari ini mau dibalas sama bandar
IHSG + 100, let's see.
BANDAR emank yahui..

On 10/23/07, oentoeng_qq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Kalau ngomong jangan kenceng2.
> Ini BELON KELUAR GOYANGANNYA
> Karena pertandingan belon selesai...
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> "siaw_hwe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> >
> > Nunggu apa lagi? Hati2 Nuke-nya ketaun Uncle Sam.
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> "Pedagang Kentang"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > I'll give you ONE more CHANCE to GET OUT, tomorrow.
> > >
> > > That if I am in a good mood like LCY.
> > >
> > > Please get up early. You will see a huge GAP.
> > >
> > > This time a NUKE BOMB is about to come. Prepare yourself.
> > >
> > > Don't be afraid with the bear. Be afraid with your EGO.
> > >
> > > EL.
> > >
> >
>
>  
>


Re: [obrolan-bandar] HATI...HATI...!!!

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik troyan troyan
Tunggu aja.Memang gak pernah finished :))


--- krisna hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Setuju...
> 
> Sell, dan tunggu di 2400, masih ada unfinished
> business disini
> 
> On 10/23/07, SeViouR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >Guys... ati2 ya... jagan sampe kejebloslagi
> dibuat umpan nih...biar
> > teri2 kaya kita ini naek kepermukaan trus di
> jedotin sampe benjol kalo
> > menurut gw sih yang udah cuan hari ini .. siang
> nanti SELL aja... sebelon
> > telat.. ya mayan kan dapet barang diskon kemaren
> trus jual skarang... untung
> > 3-8% perhari sih mayan lah... :)
> >
> >  
> >
> 


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Re: [obrolan-bandar] The history of OCtober ...crash

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik troyan troyan
Hi...Hi Hii

--- Lee Cwan Yeuw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It is a combination : 
> OIL PRICE, 
> US ECONOMY_CRISIS,
> BUBBLE?
> SPECULATIVE TRADING (NOT INVESTMENT)
> POLITIC & CAPITAL
> GREEDY
> ETC
> 
> I still keep all of my portfolio.
> I give an information for retail trader and margin
> trader only.
> 
> October in this year is a very dangerous time to
> make a trading.
> 
> Today is green, because yesterday.. tumble
> 
> But,  What do you think if DJ will be RED tonight ?
> 
> GBU 
> 
> best regards,
> 
> LCY
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: alfian bachtiar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, 23 October 2007 10:24:09
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] The history of OCtober
> ...crash
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> apakah bulan oktober selalu berpotensi crash Pak LCY
> ?
> 
> APakah saham kita memang sudah bublle ?
> 
> Memang kelihatannya kita ini tidak realistis , saham
> naiknya kencang seperti ini disuruh beli masih mau
> saja.
> 
>  
> 
> Trus kapan pak LCY kita harus beli ?
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> - Pesan Asli 
> Dari: Lee Cwan Yeuw <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com.sg>
> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> Terkirim: Selasa, 23 Oktober, 2007 9:57:29
> Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] The history of OCtober
> ...crash
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> A stock market crash is a sudden dramatic decline of
> stock prices across a significant cross-section of a
> stock market. Crashes are driven by panic as much as
> by underlying economic factors. They often follow
> speculative stock market bubbles.
> 
> Stock market crashes are social phenomena where
> external economic events combine with crowd
> behaviour and psychology in a positive feedback loop
> where selling by some market participants drives
> more market participants to sell. Generally
> speaking, crashes usually occur under the following
> conditions: a prolonged period of rising stock
> prices and excessive economic optimism, a market
> where P/E ratios exceed long-term averages, and
> extensive use
>  of margin debt and leverage by market participants.
> 
> There is no numerically- specific definition of a
> crash but the term commonly applies to steep
> double-digit percentage losses in a stock market
> index over a period of several days. Crashes are
> often distinguished from bear markets by panic
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ONE more chance

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Little John
dow fut + 52 waktu ini
kapan ya kira2 goyangan nya.hehehee
yg jual barang hari ini ngikutin POTATO bisa ilang kalo bsk IJO lagi..

  - Original Message - 
  From: oentoeng_qq 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:19 AM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ONE more chance


  Kalau ngomong jangan kenceng2.
  Ini BELON KELUAR GOYANGANNYA
  Karena pertandingan belon selesai...

  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "siaw_hwe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:
  >
  > Nunggu apa lagi? Hati2 Nuke-nya ketaun Uncle Sam.
  > 
  > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Pedagang Kentang"
  >  wrote:
  > >
  > > I'll give you ONE more CHANCE to GET OUT, tomorrow.
  > > 
  > > That if I am in a good mood like LCY.
  > > 
  > > Please get up early. You will see a huge GAP.
  > > 
  > > This time a NUKE BOMB is about to come. Prepare yourself.
  > > 
  > > Don't be afraid with the bear. Be afraid with your EGO.
  > > 
  > > EL.
  > >
  >



   

[obrolan-bandar] Member baru - Perkenalan

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik boby . galih
Dear all

Saya member baru disini..
Met kenal yah ...

Boby GaLih 

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[obrolan-bandar] Prediksi IHSG Akhir tahun?

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik boby . galih
Dear All 
Prediksi IHSG akhir tahun berapa yah?


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[obrolan-bandar] Trader WANITA.....Re: ONE more chance

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Sekarang yg wanita udah mulai MUNCUL dimilis, jadi jangan NGOMONG
yg KASAR KASAR nanti yg wanita pada engga betah. Kalo si
Elaine sih embah perkirain COWOK... sorry kalo salah...

Menurut embah banyak wanita yg cocok jadi manager karena wanita
pada umumnya punya EMOSI yg lebih baik. Jadi seharusnya TRADER
wanita punya CHANCE bagus di trading, karena EMOSI merupakan
faktor yg paling DOMINAN didalam trading dan investasi...


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "yen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Guess so...
> Kalo maxutnya hari ini gak sempet ijo mah, judulnya jd gini kali 
> yak: 'NO more chance'
> 





Re: [obrolan-bandar] HATI...HATI...!!!

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik krisna hari
Setuju...

Sell, dan tunggu di 2400, masih ada unfinished business disini

On 10/23/07, SeViouR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>Guys... ati2 ya... jagan sampe kejebloslagi dibuat umpan nih...biar
> teri2 kaya kita ini naek kepermukaan trus di jedotin sampe benjol kalo
> menurut gw sih yang udah cuan hari ini .. siang nanti SELL aja... sebelon
> telat.. ya mayan kan dapet barang diskon kemaren trus jual skarang... untung
> 3-8% perhari sih mayan lah... :)
>
>  
>


[obrolan-bandar] Re: GILA.... vs PT Timah PE 5X Profit 3 Q kira2 $150 mio ..

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Siapa tau yg tua yg lebih HOT, lebih PERHATIAN, lebih SAYANG,
lebih bisa diajak TUKAR PIKIRAN. Boss boss gede sekarang MUDA2
udah pada impo*** karena suasana kerja yg bikin STRESS. beda
ama dikampung ada kakek kakek 85 thn kawin ama gadis 17 thn
dan masih bisa punya anak.. BOSS gede model gini pengennya
DIPERHATIIN dan DISAYANG yg engga bisa diberikan ama ABG..

Apalagi kalo istri tua, servicenya bagus seperti DI
NO HAND RESTAURANT (makan tanpa pake tangan kita)...
Marriage is not only SEX, tapi juga KASIH SAYANG ...

Apalagi kalo Ditambah +++ seperti Body contact massage 
di Thailand, yg bisa bikin FULL WET tanpa buka cela**... hehehe... 
Ampe ada cowo yg engga kawin ampe tua tapi bulak balik 
terus ke Thailand..


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "gambler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
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> Hehe, Pangeran Charles ninggalin Princess Di yg notabene hot dan 
masih muda 
> dan jelas istri sahnya untuk Camilla yg jelek dan tua. Odd but real.
> 




[obrolan-bandar] REZEKI BAGI ANTM, PERTARUNGAN MENUJU TARGET RP. 5'000

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Budi Sh
para pendekar sudah mulai turun gunung utk bertempur agar target 5'000
   
  bisa tercapai di akhir tahun 2007. 
   
  anda jangan ketinggalan, karena antm masih di 3'225 hari ini. perburuan
   
  saham ini akan terus berlanjut karena banyak pendekar sudah tambah peluru.
   
  kalau perlu mereka akan bawa rudal irak ke antm.
   
  hi ... hiii .. h 

   
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG: PRICE ACTION to pak widhi dan senior teknikal lainnya...

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik dB
Nambahin yah Mbah, karena ada yang "NAPSU" Mbah.
Kalau Action doang kaga ada napsunya bergeraknya slow-slow aje..

-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Aa
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG: PRICE ACTION to pak widhi dan senior
teknikal lainnya...

Satu lagi;harga bergerak karena ada yg EMOSI.

- Original Message - 
From: "jsx_consultant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 10:41 AM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG: PRICE ACTION to pak widhi dan senior 
teknikal lainnya...


Kenapa harga BERGERAK ?.

Harga bergerak karena adanya ACTION, yaitu:
1. PRICE ACTION yg dianalisa dengan Analisa Teknikal.
2. FUNDAMENTAL ACTION yang dianalisa dengan Fundamental Analysis
3. BANDAR ACTION yg dianalisa dengan ilmu bandarmologi.
4. FEAR ACTION, Greedy and Fear analysis
5. dll ACTION

Kejatuhan IHSG kemarin termasuk dalam BANDAR ACTION, yaitu
bandar memaksa trader CUTLOSS.

Lalu bagaimana kelanjutannya gerakan harga ?. HARGA TENTUNYA
bergerak sesuai kekuatan PASAR, bagaimana kita menganalisa
kekuatan pasar. TENTUNYA susah sekali. LALU bagaimana ?.

Disini kita harus kembali ke Technikal. Kemarin gerakan
harga adalah ARTIFICIAL dibuat siBOZZ dengan menggunakan
sentimen NEGATIF dari ulang thn DJ CRASH.

Pada saat NORMAL, market akan begerak berdasarkan PRICE
ACTION, dimana gerakan harga mewakili GERAKAN KEKUATAN PASAR.
Meskipun FA bilang jelek, tapi kalo harga NAIK artinya
GERAKAN KEKUATAN PASAR mendukung KENAIKAN HARGA. Itulah
keindahan analisa teknikal karena HARGA ENGGA BISA BOONG.

Pak Widhie dll, AYO KASIH ANALISA IHSG dong bantuin
embah...hehehe...



























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[obrolan-bandar] Re: ONE more chance

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik yen
Guess so...
Kalo maxutnya hari ini gak sempet ijo mah, judulnya jd gini kali 
yak: 'NO more chance'



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "hadizhan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Dow cuman naik sedikit. 
> 
> Maksudnya Elaine, skenarionya mungkin seperti ini. JSX pagi-pagi 
> semangat sebentar, kemudian bila index berhenti, maka trader mulai 
> ragu-ragu, dan mulai jualan lagi. Saat itulah baru nuke bombnya 
> dilepas (oleh bandar atau terjadi naturally oleh panic selling).
> 
> Let's see what will happen.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Andy"  wrote:
> >
> > Come on girl or boy, whatever you are, get real!
> >  
> > Once, I repeat once, you guess, I repeat guess right! You said 
on a 
> red
> > day that the closing will be down 2%.
> > So what, it went down around 2%, does it mean, YOU MADE IT SO???
> >  
> > Nobody, I repeat, NOBODY could ever bring the JCI to a nummber 
that
> > he/she like, unless, I repeat unless you have such a huge amount 
of
> > money, but even though you can't or it is very very hard agains 
the
> > market.
> > Predicting something that is already on the way, is very easy. 
So 
> don't
> > be so cocky for just be right once!
> > It doesnt make you an expert!
> >  
> > Elaborate your prediction, disccuss with us here!
> > You wrote "I give you one more chance to get out", well, who are 
> we, why
> > should you give us a chance?
> > Are you an angel for members of our mailing list?
> > Doesn't it sound like a moron talking!
> >  
> > Tommorrow will be red you said??? Well, it looks quite green now 
> for me.
> > DJIA up around 35 pts now.
> > Recession is on the way you said? On what ground?
> >  
> > I dunno how the Dow will close today, but I do know for sure, 
you 
> are
> > not a market maker!
> > You talk to much!
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pedagang 
> Kentang
> > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 7:44 PM
> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] ONE more chance
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I'll give you ONE more CHANCE to GET OUT, tomorrow.
> > 
> > That if I am in a good mood like LCY. 
> > 
> > Please get up early. You will see a huge GAP. 
> > 
> > This time a NUKE BOMB is about to come. Prepare yourself. 
> > 
> > Don't be afraid with the bear. Be afraid with your EGO.
> > 
> > EL.
> >
>




[obrolan-bandar] Re: ONE more chance

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik oentoeng_qq
Kalau ngomong jangan kenceng2.
Ini BELON KELUAR GOYANGANNYA
Karena pertandingan belon selesai...


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "siaw_hwe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Nunggu apa lagi? Hati2 Nuke-nya ketaun Uncle Sam.
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Pedagang Kentang"
>  wrote:
> >
> > I'll give you ONE more CHANCE to GET OUT, tomorrow.
> > 
> > That if I am in a good mood like LCY.
> > 
> > Please get up early. You will see a huge GAP.
> > 
> > This time a NUKE BOMB is about to come. Prepare yourself.
> > 
> > Don't be afraid with the bear. Be afraid with your EGO.
> > 
> > EL.
> >
>




Re: [obrolan-bandar] The history of OCtober ...crash

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
It is a combination : 
OIL PRICE, 
US ECONOMY_CRISIS,
BUBBLE?
SPECULATIVE TRADING (NOT INVESTMENT)
POLITIC & CAPITAL
GREEDY
ETC

I still keep all of my portfolio.
I give an information for retail trader and margin trader only.

October in this year is a very dangerous time to make a trading.

Today is green, because yesterday.. tumble

But,  What do you think if DJ will be RED tonight ?

GBU 

best regards,

LCY


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Sent: Tuesday, 23 October 2007 10:24:09
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] The history of OCtober ...crash









  




apakah bulan oktober selalu berpotensi crash Pak LCY ?

APakah saham kita memang sudah bublle ?

Memang kelihatannya kita ini tidak realistis , saham naiknya kencang seperti 
ini disuruh beli masih mau saja.

 

Trus kapan pak LCY kita harus beli ?

 



 

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Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Terkirim: Selasa, 23 Oktober, 2007 9:57:29
Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] The history of OCtober ...crash






A stock market crash is a sudden dramatic decline of stock prices across a 
significant cross-section of a stock market. Crashes are driven by panic as 
much as by underlying economic factors. They often follow speculative stock 
market bubbles.

Stock market crashes are social phenomena where external economic events 
combine with crowd behaviour and psychology in a positive feedback loop where 
selling by some market participants drives more market participants to sell. 
Generally speaking, crashes usually occur under the following conditions: a 
prolonged period of rising stock prices and excessive economic optimism, a 
market where P/E ratios exceed long-term averages, and extensive use
 of margin debt and leverage by market participants.

There is no numerically- specific definition of a crash but the term commonly 
applies to steep double-digit percentage losses in a stock market index over a 
period of several days. Crashes are often distinguished from bear markets by 
panic selling and abrupt, dramatic price declines. Bear markets are periods of 
declining stock market prices that are measured in months or years. While 
crashes are often associated with bear markets, they do not necessarily go hand 
in hand. The crash of 1987 for example did not lead to a bear market. Likewise, 
the Japanese Nikkei bear market of the 1990s occurred over several years 
without any notable
 crashes.

28 October 1997
U.S. stock markets were widely expected to open lower for October 28 due to the 
Asian markets falling even more than they did on the 27th. Hong Kong's Hang 
Seng Index declined a staggering 14%. The Nikkei fell 4.26%. The U.S. stock 
markets initially continued their drop from the 27th, but abruptly ended, and 
began to climb. The Dow was down as much as 186 points by 10:06 A.M., and soon 
thereafter a rally started. By 10:20 A.M. The Dow was down only 25 points. Five 
minutes later, the Dow roared back into positive territory and was up 50 
points. Nine minutes later at 10:34 A.M., the Dow rallied to a triple-digit 
advance up 137.27 points. Stock prices continued to soar in choppy trading 
throughout the rest of the day. At the close of trading at 4:00 P.M., the Dow 
finished with a record 337.17 point gain (recovering 61% of the previous day's 
loss) to close at 7,498.32. The market restored $384 billion of the $663 billion
 in market capitalization lost the previous day. One billion shares were traded 
on the New York Stock Exchange for the first time ever, with a volume of 1.21 
billion shares. In 2006 terms, this amount is considered very light. The NASDAQ 
Composite also made a record gain on record volume, gaining 67.93 to 1,603.02. 
The NASDAQ also saw its first-ever one-billion share day with 1.23 billion 
shares changing hands.


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Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG: PRICE ACTION to pak widhi dan senior teknikal lainnya...

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Aa
Beneran loh, jangan ketawa ...karakter yg pegang duit gede memang begitu,gak 
mau kalah tipikalnya(bej dibikin kaya casino :-))




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> hehheee.. setujuuu.. asli lucu banget :))
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[obrolan-bandar] HATI...HATI...!!!

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik SeViouR
Guys... ati2 ya... jagan sampe kejebloslagi dibuat umpan nih...biar teri2 
kaya kita ini naek kepermukaan trus di jedotin sampe benjol kalo menurut gw 
sih yang udah cuan hari ini .. siang nanti SELL aja... sebelon telat.. ya mayan 
kan dapet barang diskon kemaren trus jual skarang... untung 3-8% perhari sih 
mayan lah... :)

[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG: PRICE ACTION to pak widhi dan senior teknikal lainnya...

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik jsxtraders
Mantab Mbah !!

posting gini yang seharusnya..., ngga cuma "I'll give you one more 
chance..." (kaya judul lagu) atau 
cuma "Hi...hi...hi..hi..hi..hi.."


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"  wrote:
>
> Kenapa harga BERGERAK ?.
> 
> Harga bergerak karena adanya ACTION, yaitu:
> 1. PRICE ACTION yg dianalisa dengan Analisa Teknikal.
> 2. FUNDAMENTAL ACTION yang dianalisa dengan Fundamental Analysis
> 3. BANDAR ACTION yg dianalisa dengan ilmu bandarmologi.
> 4. FEAR ACTION, Greedy and Fear analysis
> 5. dll ACTION
> 
> Kejatuhan IHSG kemarin termasuk dalam BANDAR ACTION, yaitu
> bandar memaksa trader CUTLOSS.
> 
> Lalu bagaimana kelanjutannya gerakan harga ?. HARGA TENTUNYA
> bergerak sesuai kekuatan PASAR, bagaimana kita menganalisa
> kekuatan pasar. TENTUNYA susah sekali. LALU bagaimana ?.
> 
> Disini kita harus kembali ke Technikal. Kemarin gerakan
> harga adalah ARTIFICIAL dibuat siBOZZ dengan menggunakan
> sentimen NEGATIF dari ulang thn DJ CRASH. 
> 
> Pada saat NORMAL, market akan begerak berdasarkan PRICE 
> ACTION, dimana gerakan harga mewakili GERAKAN KEKUATAN PASAR.
> Meskipun FA bilang jelek, tapi kalo harga NAIK artinya
> GERAKAN KEKUATAN PASAR mendukung KENAIKAN HARGA. Itulah
> keindahan analisa teknikal karena HARGA ENGGA BISA BOONG.
> 
> Pak Widhie dll, AYO KASIH ANALISA IHSG dong bantuin 
> embah...hehehe...
>




Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG: PRICE ACTION to pak widhi dan senior teknikal lainnya...

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Odink
hehheee.. setujuuu.. asli lucu banget :))

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> Satu lagi;harga bergerak karena ada yg EMOSI.


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[obrolan-bandar] Re: ONE more chance

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik siaw_hwe
Nunggu apa lagi? Hati2 Nuke-nya ketaun Uncle Sam.

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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'll give you ONE more CHANCE to GET OUT, tomorrow.
> 
> That if I am in a good mood like LCY.
> 
> Please get up early. You will see a huge GAP.
> 
> This time a NUKE BOMB is about to come. Prepare yourself.
> 
> Don't be afraid with the bear. Be afraid with your EGO.
> 
> EL.
>




Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG +70, IHSG is HEALTHY, Right ... hehehe (9:54)

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Aa
Oh common Embah,apanya yg healthy

Waktu IHSG naik ke 2660 berapa banyak saham yg dorong ???




- Original Message - 
From: "jsx_consultant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 9:57 AM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG +70, IHSG is HEALTHY, Right ... hehehe (9:54)


IHSG +70, IHSG is HEALTHY, Right ... hehehe (9:54)


Capital Outflow is still TOLERABLE as embah TOLD you,
IHSG is perfectly HEALTHY

Mau dibom NUKLIR ama Mr kentang, malah jadi FRENCH FRIES lezat.. hehehe..

Special THANKS buat pak Boyz tentang DJI dan buat BOZZ yg
engga mau portfolionya jadi angin











[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG +70, IHSG is HEALTHY, Right ... hehehe (9:54)

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik investor_ngesot

setuju ama embah..  makan bareng yuk mbah, nih saya bagiin sayuran 
ijo sama mashed potato (kentang yang digebukin)..  hehe

lumayan, udah mulai beli kentang kemaren... hehe

...yep, 2700.. or more !


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"  wrote:
>
> IHSG +70, IHSG is HEALTHY, Right ... hehehe (9:54)
> 
> 
> Capital Outflow is still TOLERABLE as embah TOLD you,
> IHSG is perfectly HEALTHY
> 
> Mau dibom NUKLIR ama Mr kentang, malah jadi FRENCH FRIES lezat.. 
hehehe..
> 
> Special THANKS buat pak Boyz tentang DJI dan buat BOZZ yg
> engga mau portfolionya jadi angin
>




Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG: PRICE ACTION to pak widhi dan senior teknikal lainnya...

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Aa
Satu lagi;harga bergerak karena ada yg EMOSI.




- Original Message - 
From: "jsx_consultant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 10:41 AM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG: PRICE ACTION to pak widhi dan senior 
teknikal lainnya...


Kenapa harga BERGERAK ?.

Harga bergerak karena adanya ACTION, yaitu:
1. PRICE ACTION yg dianalisa dengan Analisa Teknikal.
2. FUNDAMENTAL ACTION yang dianalisa dengan Fundamental Analysis
3. BANDAR ACTION yg dianalisa dengan ilmu bandarmologi.
4. FEAR ACTION, Greedy and Fear analysis
5. dll ACTION

Kejatuhan IHSG kemarin termasuk dalam BANDAR ACTION, yaitu
bandar memaksa trader CUTLOSS.

Lalu bagaimana kelanjutannya gerakan harga ?. HARGA TENTUNYA
bergerak sesuai kekuatan PASAR, bagaimana kita menganalisa
kekuatan pasar. TENTUNYA susah sekali. LALU bagaimana ?.

Disini kita harus kembali ke Technikal. Kemarin gerakan
harga adalah ARTIFICIAL dibuat siBOZZ dengan menggunakan
sentimen NEGATIF dari ulang thn DJ CRASH.

Pada saat NORMAL, market akan begerak berdasarkan PRICE
ACTION, dimana gerakan harga mewakili GERAKAN KEKUATAN PASAR.
Meskipun FA bilang jelek, tapi kalo harga NAIK artinya
GERAKAN KEKUATAN PASAR mendukung KENAIKAN HARGA. Itulah
keindahan analisa teknikal karena HARGA ENGGA BISA BOONG.

Pak Widhie dll, AYO KASIH ANALISA IHSG dong bantuin
embah...hehehe...



























[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG +70, IHSG is HEALTHY, Right ... hehehe (9:54)

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik jsxtraders
Mbah you are so very good !! ntar saya traktir KENTANG GORENG di 
McD...he..he

God Bless You Mbah..


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"  wrote:
>
> IHSG +70, IHSG is HEALTHY, Right ... hehehe (9:54)
> 
> 
> Capital Outflow is still TOLERABLE as embah TOLD you,
> IHSG is perfectly HEALTHY
> 
> Mau dibom NUKLIR ama Mr kentang, malah jadi FRENCH FRIES lezat.. 
hehehe..
> 
> Special THANKS buat pak Boyz tentang DJI dan buat BOZZ yg
> engga mau portfolionya jadi angin
>




RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PREDIKSI INDEX BEJ BESOK ?

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Diana
 
Feelingku besok market merah...hari ini ijo dikit aja...buat bikin para
day trader ngiler ajatrus besok turun hwuwhwhe;p besok time to
shopping nihhh uhu
 

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From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
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Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 10:11 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PREDIKSI INDEX BEJ BESOK ?



The Fat lady is not singing yet,...



On 10/23/07, Dennis Chen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> yahoo.com> wrote: 



Embah, emang Rur Biasa..
Sampe jam 10.00 INDEX + 60 jadi Hijau Segar ya Mbah.
Kemarin yang ngikut Mbah pasti udah tertawa lebarminimal senyum
simpul.
Happy cuan ya...


- Original Message 
From: jsx_consultant http://centrin.net>
.id>
To: obrolan-bandar@ 
yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 3:20:46 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PREDIKSI INDEX BEJ BESOK ?



Kalo sampe HIJAU, sepertinya HIJAU SEGAR karena Fund Manager
GEDE engga bisa JUALAN hari INI. 

Analisa embah menunjukan TIDAK ADA redempsi DANA GEDE meskipun
IHSG -100, DANA GEDE engga bisa keluar karena ENGGA ADA YG 
MAU NAMPUNG

REKSADANA praktis DIAM KEJEDUT nunggu DJI entar malem...
Ada yg bisa confirmasi ?

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
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wrote:
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> iseng ah..
> maunya sih C
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: Dennis Chen 
> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 
> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 2:51:15 PM 
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] PREDIKSI INDEX BEJ BESOK ?
> 
> Hi...Para Senior - Suhu - Embah - Pakar 
> Berhubung Index merah membawa sampe 3 digit gini, gimana kalau kita 
prediksi Index BEJ besok ;
> A. BEJ meneruskan merahnya >50 Point 
> B. BEJ Merah < 50 Point
> C. BEJ hijau tipis 
> D. BEJ hijau Royo - Royo
> 
> Semakin akurat prediksi para pakar maka semakin "Salute" para 
Newbie.
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] Yunan Tin -- Lihat PE 98.9 X vs Profitnya cuma 3 Q $ 60 mio---- GILA.... vs PT Timah PE 5X Profit 3 Q kira2 $150 mio .. Mana yang lebih gila? (by Jonni Amin, CFA, FRM

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik gambler
Hehe, Pangeran Charles ninggalin Princess Di yg notabene hot dan masih muda 
dan jelas istri sahnya untuk Camilla yg jelek dan tua. Odd but real.

...
- Original Message - 
From: "Eka Suwandana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 4:24 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] Yunan Tin -- Lihat PE 98.9 X vs 
Profitnya cuma 3 Q $ 60 mio GILA vs PT Timah PE 5X Profit 3 Q kira2 
$150 mio .. Mana yang lebih gila? (by Jonni Amin, CFA, FRM)


> Gw juga bingung sama market Indonesia, kalo IHSG
> anjlok saham2 mining ikut anjlok. Dan yg parah saat
> ini MEDC disaat OIL 90$, dan PSC Brantas sudah disold.
>
> Nggak nanjak2 sahamnya??? Padahal laba tahun lalu
> kegerus kasus Lumpur sekitar 60jt$, dimana tahun depan
> sudah nggak muncul lagi di Lapkeu. Beda jauh dgn ENRG?
>
> Belum perkembangan baik AREA 47 LIBYA. Sudah kelihatan
> seorang pengusaha pintar, pasti tidak akan jual aset
> nya yg paling produktif (APEX) kalo tidak ada gantinya
> yg lebih besar (jarang kejadian laki2 tinggalkan istri
> tua demi istri yg lebih tua). Dgn dijualnya APEX ,DER
> MEDC turun dari kisaran 2,4x. Plus kebutuhan 110jt $
> utk AREA 47 terpenuhi.
>
> Ah saya kumpulin MEDC saja dan TBLA kalo jatuh utk
> pensiun.
>
>
> --- tin berland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Jangan panic !
>>   Kenaikan harga minyak tidak berpengaruh banyak
>> untuk saham pertambangan
>>   karena harga saham pertambangan juga ikut naik,
>> untungnya juga sangat besar.
>>   Jadi tetap beli untuk saham pertambangan Big Cap
>> TINS, ANTM, INCO, PGAS,
>>   BUMI, PTBA ngak usah khawatir.Juga MEDC perlu di
>> lirik.
>>   Untuk CPO seperti AALI, LSIP juga tetap menarik
>>   Sektor lain seperti perbankan, properti,
>> transportasi, manufactur di jauhkan dulu.
>>
>>
>> "Jonni Amin,CFA,FRM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Saya melihat Indonesia diuntungkan dalam
>> hal komoditas (batubara, timah, nikel, palm oil
>> dll). Kalau Australia tidak begitu untung karena
>> mata uangnya menguat terlalu banyak terhadap US
>> dolar. Kenaikan harga komoditas seperti batubara
>> kalau dikonversikan ke Aus$ tidaklah berubah banyak
>> (bahkan bisa tidak menguntungkan), tapi berbeda
>> dengan kita. Apalagi, dalam hal PE masih kecil
>> dibandingkan dengan PE negara lain.
>>
>>   Walaupun sekarang minyak naik hampir mendekati
>> US$90 dollar, kedepan saya pikir komoditas tetap
>> bagus karena US dollar sebenarnya terdevaluasi.
>>
>>
>>
>>   Yunnan Tin Co., Ltd.  (Public,
>> SHE:000960) - Add to Portfolio - Discuss 000960
>> Find more results for SHE:000960
>>   80.88
>> +0.08 (0.10%)
>> Oct 19 - Close   Open:   80.90Mkt Cap:
>> 43.42BP/E:   98.84Dividend:   N/A
>> High:   82.9952Wk High:   2,400.00
>>  F P/E:   N/AYield:   N/ALow:
>> 75.49   52Wk Low:   75.49   Beta:   N/A
>>   Shares:   536.86MVol:   4.95MAvg
>> Vol:   N/AEPS:   0.82Inst. Own:
>> N/A
>>Compare
>>Settings
>>
>>
>>
>> Link to chart
>>Historical Prices
>>
>>   Historical Prices
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Yunnan Tin's profits surge
>> Release date: 15 Oct 2007  Yunnan
>> Tin Company reported an almost four-fold increase in
>> profits in the first nine months of 2007. Net income
>> rose to 454 million yuan ($60 million), or 0.85 yuan
>> a share, compared with 120 million yuan, or 0.22
>> yuan, a year ago, the Yunnan-based company said on
>> 12 October in a preliminary earnings statement to
>> the Shenzhen Stock Exchange.
>>
>> YTC, the only listed tin producer in China, has been
>> one of the top performing shares on the country's
>> booming stock market this year, increasing tenfold
>> in price since the start of the year versus a 181%
>> increase in the benchmark CSI 300 index, according
>> to Bloomberg.
>>
>> Chinese spot tin prices have recently surged to
>> 150,000 yuan ($20,000) per tonne as a result of
>> strong demand from the solder sector and constraints
>> on metal production caused by concentrate shortages.
>> CNIA data shows that Chinese refined tin production
>> in January-August was 97,223 tonnes, up 7.1% on the
>> same period of 2006, but output has fallen below
>> year-ago levels in every month since May.
>>
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] to : Pak Busur

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Lius Pritantyo
pak Busur,

apakah ENRG masi anda keep terus meskipun kemarin kena bomb ?
kala iya, bisa share ke milis pak atas dasar pertimbangan apa pak Busur
untuk tetap keep enrg

-lius-



On 10/23/07, budi suryono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Ya pak,saya udah bersih, ada tinggal dikit, gak signifcant, tinggal diem
> nunggu next opportunity yang selalu ada.Sebenarnya ada satu rule exit saya
> yang saya pegang, lebih ke allert,kalau index minus lebih 1,5%,saya
> keluar/paling nggak sebagian.,lebih dari 2%harus bersih(lepas besok rebound
> atau nggak,itu urusan lain), rule ini selama ini menyelamatkan capital
> saya,rgds
>
> *James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
>  Mengacu pada file2 dan tulisan2 pak Busur di masa masa lalu, mestinya
> beliau sudah cash out dari hari Jum'at lalu atau malah Rabu lalu
> karena dalam email terdahulu beliau, beliau cenderung untuk exit saat
> volatilitas market naik lebih dari 10%, Rabu lalu saham pegangan
> beliau naik 20% dalam 1hari.
>
> Dalam pelajaran TA yang pernah saya ikuti yang diberikan oleh pak
> Haryajid, pergerakan saham yang slope >70% maka akan mudah dan rawan
> koreksi. Bertahun-tahun saya amati hal ini dan memang demikianlah
> kejadian. Saham selalu turun setelah spike dan naik dengan slope lebih
> dari 70%
>
> Mungkin pak Busur bisa sharing exit pointnya karena saya melihat exit
> strategy beliau sudah berubah dibanding exit strategy dalam posting
> dahulu sehingga mungkin perlu diupdate lagi
>
> On 10/20/07, Karno <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dengan cash manajemen anda, menurut saya portfolio anda sekarang sudah
> > bersih karena cepat2 cut loss,
> > Betul Pak Busur ?
> >
> >
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] The history of OCtober ...crash

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik alfian bachtiar
apakah bulan oktober selalu berpotensi crash Pak LCY ?
APakah saham kita memang sudah bublle ?
Memang kelihatannya kita ini tidak realistis , saham naiknya kencang seperti 
ini disuruh beli masih mau saja.

Trus kapan pak LCY kita harus beli ?




- Pesan Asli 
Dari: Lee Cwan Yeuw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Terkirim: Selasa, 23 Oktober, 2007 9:57:29
Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] The history of OCtober ...crash

A stock market crash is a sudden dramatic decline of stock prices across a 
significant cross-section of a stock market. Crashes are driven by panic as 
much as by underlying economic factors. They often follow speculative stock 
market bubbles.
Stock market crashes are social phenomena where external economic events 
combine with crowd behaviour and psychology in a positive feedback loop where 
selling by some market participants drives more market participants to sell. 
Generally speaking, crashes usually occur under the following conditions: a 
prolonged period of rising stock prices and excessive economic optimism, a 
market where P/E ratios exceed long-term averages, and extensive use of margin 
debt and leverage by market participants.
There is no numerically- specific definition of a crash but the term commonly 
applies to steep double-digit percentage losses in a stock market index over a 
period of several days. Crashes are often distinguished from bear markets by 
panic selling and abrupt, dramatic price declines. Bear markets are periods of 
declining stock market prices that are measured in months or years. While 
crashes are often associated with bear markets, they do not necessarily go hand 
in hand. The crash of 1987 for example did not lead to a bear market. Likewise, 
the Japanese Nikkei bear market of the 1990s occurred over several years 
without any notable crashes.

28 October 1997
U.S. stock markets were widely expected to open lower for October 28 due to the 
Asian markets falling even more than they did on the 27th. Hong Kong's Hang 
Seng Index declined a staggering 14%. The Nikkei fell 4.26%. The U.S. stock 
markets initially continued their drop from the 27th, but abruptly ended, and 
began to climb. The Dow was down as much as 186 points by 10:06 A.M., and soon 
thereafter a rally started. By 10:20 A.M. The Dow was down only 25 points. Five 
minutes later, the Dow roared back into positive territory and was up 50 
points. Nine minutes later at 10:34 A.M., the Dow rallied to a triple-digit 
advance up 137.27 points. Stock prices continued to soar in choppy trading 
throughout the rest of the day. At the close of trading at 4:00 P.M., the Dow 
finished with a record 337.17 point gain (recovering 61% of the previous day's 
loss) to close at 7,498.32. The market restored $384 billion of the $663 
billion in market capitalization lost the
 previous day. One billion shares were traded on the New York Stock Exchange 
for the first time ever, with a volume of 1.21 billion shares. In 2006 terms, 
this amount is considered very light. The NASDAQ Composite also made a record 
gain on record volume, gaining 67.93 to 1,603.02. The NASDAQ also saw its 
first-ever one-billion share day with 1.23 billion shares changing hands.


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Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG +70, IHSG is HEALTHY, Right ... hehehe (9:54)

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik jacksen aja
um terus habis ketutup gapsnya?




On 10/23/07, Data Saham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   ayo Mbah dikomando SERBU BEJ lagi biar indeks +100 buat nutup GAP
> kemarin
>
> *jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
>  IHSG +70, IHSG is HEALTHY, Right ... hehehe (9:54)
>
> Capital Outflow is still TOLERABLE as embah TOLD you,
> IHSG is perfectly HEALTHY
>
> Mau dibom NUKLIR ama Mr kentang, malah jadi FRENCH FRIES lezat.. hehehe..
>
> Special THANKS buat pak Boyz tentang DJI dan buat BOZZ yg
> engga mau portfolionya jadi angin
>
>
>
>
> __
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[obrolan-bandar] IHSG: PRICE ACTION to pak widhi dan senior teknikal lainnya...

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Kenapa harga BERGERAK ?.

Harga bergerak karena adanya ACTION, yaitu:
1. PRICE ACTION yg dianalisa dengan Analisa Teknikal.
2. FUNDAMENTAL ACTION yang dianalisa dengan Fundamental Analysis
3. BANDAR ACTION yg dianalisa dengan ilmu bandarmologi.
4. FEAR ACTION, Greedy and Fear analysis
5. dll ACTION

Kejatuhan IHSG kemarin termasuk dalam BANDAR ACTION, yaitu
bandar memaksa trader CUTLOSS.

Lalu bagaimana kelanjutannya gerakan harga ?. HARGA TENTUNYA
bergerak sesuai kekuatan PASAR, bagaimana kita menganalisa
kekuatan pasar. TENTUNYA susah sekali. LALU bagaimana ?.

Disini kita harus kembali ke Technikal. Kemarin gerakan
harga adalah ARTIFICIAL dibuat siBOZZ dengan menggunakan
sentimen NEGATIF dari ulang thn DJ CRASH. 

Pada saat NORMAL, market akan begerak berdasarkan PRICE 
ACTION, dimana gerakan harga mewakili GERAKAN KEKUATAN PASAR.
Meskipun FA bilang jelek, tapi kalo harga NAIK artinya
GERAKAN KEKUATAN PASAR mendukung KENAIKAN HARGA. Itulah
keindahan analisa teknikal karena HARGA ENGGA BISA BOONG.

Pak Widhie dll, AYO KASIH ANALISA IHSG dong bantuin 
embah...hehehe...



 






















Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG +70, IHSG is HEALTHY, Right ... hehehe (9:54)

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Aria Bela Nusa
Agree, Embah - let it be peace + harmony (GREENS) with us - NOW & THEN...

Happy chuan,

Aria



> IHSG +70, IHSG is HEALTHY, Right ... hehehe (9:54)
>
>
> Capital Outflow is still TOLERABLE as embah TOLD you,
> IHSG is perfectly HEALTHY
>
> Mau dibom NUKLIR ama Mr kentang, malah jadi FRENCH FRIES lezat.. hehehe..
>
> Special THANKS buat pak Boyz tentang DJI dan buat BOZZ yg
> engga mau portfolionya jadi angin
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



Re: [obrolan-bandar] SELL WHEN YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik JSX Bejo
Mr lee,

You are either representing or betraying the Boss(es), coz that's where you get 
your data

Trust its the latter.



  - Original Message - 
  From: Lee Cwan Yeuw 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 9:26 AM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] SELL WHEN YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY






  - Original Message 
  From: Dean Earwicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, 23 October 2007 12:12:26
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Intermezzo.. about trading styles...


  Embah, Bang IAN, numpang posting,... sekalian menjawab semua japri yang 
masuk... cape kalo bales satu2. :)

  Bung DE, kapan/timing buat masuk lagi?
  Untuk SAYA, saya baru masuk kalau market sudah tidak terlalu volatile 
(=sideways) dan membentuk ASCENDING TRIANGLE. Market kita long term tetap 
BULLISH. Short term mungkin bearish. Sabar aja, jgn panik. Rasanya gak ada 
masalah dengan ekonomi Indonesia. Hanya profit taking aja.

  Hint: strategi long jangan dicampur sama swing, pasti KACAU. Gak percaya? 
Coba aja..hehe..  Make up your mind, what is your trading style?.

  Apakah anda sukanya seperti pak Busur yang Buy High Sell Higher?
  Atau seperti Embah dengan Bandarmologinya? 
  Atau seperti Wan Al dengan analisa FAnya?
  Atau seperti pak Sbudiana dengan EGP nya?
  Atau seperti pak JA yang kontrarian?
  Atau seperti Bang IAN dengan gaya buayanya? <<-- ini perlu diklarifikasi lagi 
nih... :) 

  Everyone have their own style.

  Setiap strategi memiliki ciri khas sendiri, dan rekomendasi tidak bisa di 
GENERALISIR untuk semua trading style. Percaya deh, rekomendasi bisa BEDA untuk 
satu style dengan style yang lain. Selama anda belum punya trading style, anda 
akan terombang-ambing sama rekomendasi, rumor, hasutan, dsb. 

  Jadi bukannya saya gak mau kasih rekomendasi, tapi nanti takutnya jadi 
misleading karena saya gak tahu seperti apa trading style anda. Saya gak punya 
data target price. Pokoknya beli kalau mau naik, jual kalau mau turun. As 
simple as that. Pakai TA klasik rasanya sudah cukup. 

  Saran: sebaiknya jangan meniru gaya orang lain. Temukan gaya anda sendiri. 
Trading seperti lagi nyari jodoh. Cocok-cocokan. Mungkin bisa berganti 2-3 
kali, tapi yang penting JANGAN SELINGKUH. 

  Strategi saya pribadi:
  PSYCHOSWINGESTOR.  <<-- tau deh apa artinya..hehe. .

  Kenapa bukan daytrading? Krn saya gak sempat mantau market per menit.


  Regards,
  DE
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] ONE more chance

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Joe Highlander
For us as highlander it is not the last chance to get out, new support still
being formed since yesterday.
But I m not buying or selling today, I still hold the last . If the next
will break the new low   then I will follow you. But if not happened, i will
waiting for a new high to avg up my position.



2007/10/22, Pedagang Kentang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>   I'll give you ONE more CHANCE to GET OUT, tomorrow.
>
> That if I am in a good mood like LCY.
>
> Please get up early. You will see a huge GAP.
>
> This time a NUKE BOMB is about to come. Prepare yourself.
>
> Don't be afraid with the bear. Be afraid with your EGO.
>
> EL.
>  
>


Re: [obrolan-bandar] The history of OCtober ...crash

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik troyan troyan
Hi...hi.hii


--- Lee Cwan Yeuw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> A stock market crash is a sudden dramatic decline of
> stock prices across a significant cross-section of a
> stock market. Crashes are driven by panic as much as
> by underlying economic factors. They often follow
> speculative stock market bubbles.
> 
> Stock market crashes are social phenomena where
> external economic events combine with crowd
> behaviour and psychology in a positive feedback
> loop where selling by some market participants
> drives more market
> participants to sell. Generally speaking, crashes
> usually occur under
> the following conditions: a prolonged period of
> rising stock prices and
> excessive economic optimism, a market where P/E
> ratios exceed long-term averages, and extensive use
> of margin debt and leverage by market participants.
> 
> There is no numerically-specific definition of a
> crash but the term
> commonly applies to steep double-digit percentage
> losses in a stock market index over a period of
> several days. Crashes are often distinguished from
> bear markets
> by panic selling and abrupt, dramatic price
> declines. Bear markets are
> periods of declining stock market prices that are
> measured in months or
> years. While crashes are often associated with bear
> markets, they do
> not necessarily go hand in hand. The crash of 1987
> for example did not
> lead to a bear market. Likewise, the Japanese Nikkei
> bear market of the 1990s occurred over several years
> without any notable crashes.
> 
> 28 October 1997
> U.S. stock markets were widely expected to open
> lower for October 28
> due to the Asian markets falling even more than they
> did on the 27th.
> Hong Kong's Hang Seng Index declined a staggering
> 14%. The Nikkei fell
> 4.26%. The U.S. stock markets initially continued
> their drop from the
> 27th, but abruptly ended, and began to climb. The
> Dow was down as much
> as 186 points by 10:06 A.M., and soon thereafter a
> rally started. By
> 10:20 A.M. The Dow was down only 25 points. Five
> minutes later, the Dow
> roared back into positive territory and was up 50
> points. Nine minutes
> later at 10:34 A.M., the Dow rallied to a
> triple-digit advance up
> 137.27 points. Stock prices continued to soar in
> choppy trading
> throughout the rest of the day. At the close of
> trading at 4:00 P.M.,
> the Dow finished with a record 337.17 point gain
> (recovering 61% of the
> previous day's loss) to close at 7,498.32. The
> market restored $384
> billion of the $663 billion in market capitalization
> lost the previous
> day. One billion shares were traded on the New York
> Stock Exchange for the first time ever, with a
> volume of 1.21 billion shares. In 2006
> terms, this amount is considered very light. The
> NASDAQ Composite also
> made a record gain on record volume, gaining 67.93
> to 1,603.02. The
> NASDAQ also saw its first-ever one-billion share day
> with 1.23 billion
> shares changing hands.
> 
> 
> Save your money...before you will be TRAPPED
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SENIN, INVISIBLE HAND JAGA ANTM DI BURSA LAGI MERAH

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik troyan troyan
Hi...hi.hihiii

--- Lee Cwan Yeuw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi...hi...hi..hi..hi..hi..
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: anto8384 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, 23 October 2007 9:50:43
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SENIN, INVISIBLE HAND
> JAGA ANTM DI BURSA LAGI MERAH
> 
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> Naiknaik. ...
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> ke lima ribu
> 
> tinggitinggi. ...
> 
> sekali
> 
> 
> 
> kiri kanan...
> 
> kulihat.
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> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Saham
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SENIN, INVISIBLE HAND JAGA ANTM DI BURSA LAGI MERAH

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik ALX™
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontianak

Pontianak... (Chineses: Khuntien)
Pontianak... a type of vampire in Malay folklore...

Salam
ALX™
-
YNWA


On 10/23/07, Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There you go again...pontianak with 1 line :-)
> It can imply 2 things: hihihi as in "you wish!" or hihihi as
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> No base for argument here...
> Sorry if I am pushing.
>
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> wrote:
> >
> > Hi...hi...hi..hi..hi..hi..
> >
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: The history of OCtober ...crash

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Richard Ropongi
Nuke bomb nya emang jadi "jatuh", tapi "jatuh" pada ari Minggu..
liat aja kalender tgl 28 Oktober ari apa...??
jadi ga masalah...
hehehe...analisa paling oon kan..



- Pesan Asli 
Dari: Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Terkirim: Selasa, 23 Oktober, 2007 10:08:00
Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: The history of OCtober ...crash

Mr. Lee...
>From your continuous posts, you seem to tell us that "nuke bomb" is 
coming (like Elaine said) SOON. Is that right? 
You need to tell us more than that rather than posting references 
and 1 liner. Please... Thank you.

Rgds,

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Lee Cwan Yeuw <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > 
wrote:
>
> A stock market crash is a sudden dramatic decline of stock prices 
across a significant cross-section of a stock market. Crashes are 
driven by panic as much as by underlying economic factors. They 
often follow speculative stock market bubbles.
> 
> Stock market crashes are social phenomena where external economic 
events combine with crowd behaviour and psychology in a positive 
feedback
> loop where selling by some market participants drives more market
> participants to sell. Generally speaking, crashes usually occur 
under
> the following conditions: a prolonged period of rising stock 
prices and
> excessive economic optimism, a market where P/E ratios exceed long-
term averages, and extensive use of margin debt and leverage by 
market participants.
> 
> There is no numerically- specific definition of a crash but the term
> commonly applies to steep double-digit percentage losses in a 
stock market index over a period of several days. Crashes are often 
distinguished from bear markets
> by panic selling and abrupt, dramatic price declines. Bear markets 
are
> periods of declining stock market prices that are measured in 
months or
> years. While crashes are often associated with bear markets, they 
do
> not necessarily go hand in hand. The crash of 1987 for example did 
not
> lead to a bear market. Likewise, the Japanese Nikkei bear market 
of the 1990s occurred over several years without any notable crashes.
> 
> 28 October 1997
> U.S. stock markets were widely expected to open lower for October 
28
> due to the Asian markets falling even more than they did on the 
27th.
> Hong Kong's Hang Seng Index declined a staggering 14%. The Nikkei 
fell
> 4.26%. The U.S. stock markets initially continued their drop from 
the
> 27th, but abruptly ended, and began to climb. The Dow was down as 
much
> as 186 points by 10:06 A.M., and soon thereafter a rally started. 
By
> 10:20 A.M. The Dow was down only 25 points. Five minutes later, 
the Dow
> roared back into positive territory and was up 50 points. Nine 
minutes
> later at 10:34 A.M., the Dow rallied to a triple-digit advance up
> 137.27 points. Stock prices continued to soar in choppy trading
> throughout the rest of the day. At the close of trading at 4:00 
P.M.,
> the Dow finished with a record 337.17 point gain (recovering 61% 
of the
> previous day's loss) to close at 7,498.32. The market restored $384
> billion of the $663 billion in market capitalization lost the 
previous
> day. One billion shares were traded on the New York Stock Exchange 
for the first time ever, with a volume of 1.21 billion shares. In 
2006
> terms, this amount is considered very light. The NASDAQ Composite 
also
> made a record gain on record volume, gaining 67.93 to 1,603.02. The
> NASDAQ also saw its first-ever one-billion share day with 1.23 
billion
> shares changing hands.
> 
> 
> Save your money...before you will be TRAPPED
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG +70, IHSG is HEALTHY, Right ... hehehe (9:54)

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Data Saham
ayo Mbah dikomando SERBU BEJ lagi biar indeks +100 buat nutup GAP kemarin

jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   IHSG 
+70, IHSG is HEALTHY, Right ... hehehe (9:54)
 
 Capital Outflow is still TOLERABLE as embah TOLD you,
 IHSG is perfectly HEALTHY
 
 Mau dibom NUKLIR ama Mr kentang, malah jadi FRENCH FRIES lezat.. hehehe..
 
 Special THANKS buat pak Boyz tentang DJI dan buat BOZZ yg 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PREDIKSI INDEX BEJ BESOK ?

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik krisna hari
The Fat lady is not singing yet,...

On 10/23/07, Dennis Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Embah, emang Rur Biasa..
> Sampe jam 10.00 INDEX + 60 jadi Hijau Segar ya Mbah.
> Kemarin yang ngikut Mbah pasti udah tertawa lebarminimal senyum
> simpul.
> Happy cuan ya...
>
> - Original Message 
> From: jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 3:20:46 PM
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PREDIKSI INDEX BEJ BESOK ?
>
>  Kalo sampe HIJAU, sepertinya HIJAU SEGAR karena Fund Manager
> GEDE engga bisa JUALAN hari INI.
>
> Analisa embah menunjukan TIDAK ADA redempsi DANA GEDE meskipun
> IHSG -100, DANA GEDE engga bisa keluar karena ENGGA ADA YG
> MAU NAMPUNG
>
> REKSADANA praktis DIAM KEJEDUT nunggu DJI entar malem...
> Ada yg bisa confirmasi ?
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com ,
> bob anti <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ..> wrote:
> >
> > iseng ah..
> > maunya sih C
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message 
> > From: Dennis Chen 
> > To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
> > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 2:51:15 PM
> > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] PREDIKSI INDEX BEJ BESOK ?
> >
> > Hi...Para Senior - Suhu - Embah - Pakar
> > Berhubung Index merah membawa sampe 3 digit gini, gimana kalau kita
> prediksi Index BEJ besok ;
> > A. BEJ meneruskan merahnya >50 Point
> > B. BEJ Merah < 50 Point
> > C. BEJ hijau tipis
> > D. BEJ hijau Royo - Royo
> >
> > Semakin akurat prediksi para pakar maka semakin "Salute" para
> Newbie.
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] The history of OCtober ...crash

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Doly Simbar
then after oct incline again or ???


- Original Message 
From: Lee Cwan Yeuw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 9:57:29 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] The history of OCtober ...crash

A stock market crash is a sudden dramatic decline of stock prices across a 
significant cross-section of a stock market. Crashes are driven by panic as 
much as by underlying economic factors. They often follow speculative stock 
market bubbles.
Stock market crashes are social phenomena where external economic events 
combine with crowd behaviour and psychology in a positive feedback loop where 
selling by some market participants drives more market participants to sell. 
Generally speaking, crashes usually occur under the following conditions: a 
prolonged period of rising stock prices and excessive economic optimism, a 
market where P/E ratios exceed long-term averages, and extensive use of margin 
debt and leverage by market participants.
There is no numerically- specific definition of a crash but the term commonly 
applies to steep double-digit percentage losses in a stock market index over a 
period of several days. Crashes are often distinguished from bear markets by 
panic selling and abrupt, dramatic price declines. Bear markets are periods of 
declining stock market prices that are measured in months or years. While 
crashes are often associated with bear markets, they do not necessarily go hand 
in hand. The crash of 1987 for example did not lead to a bear market. Likewise, 
the Japanese Nikkei bear market of the 1990s occurred over several years 
without any notable crashes.

28 October 1997
U.S. stock markets were widely expected to open lower for October 28 due to the 
Asian markets falling even more than they did on the 27th. Hong Kong's Hang 
Seng Index declined a staggering 14%. The Nikkei fell 4.26%. The U.S. stock 
markets initially continued their drop from the 27th, but abruptly ended, and 
began to climb. The Dow was down as much as 186 points by 10:06 A.M., and soon 
thereafter a rally started. By 10:20 A.M. The Dow was down only 25 points. Five 
minutes later, the Dow roared back into positive territory and was up 50 
points. Nine minutes later at 10:34 A.M., the Dow rallied to a triple-digit 
advance up 137.27 points. Stock prices continued to soar in choppy trading 
throughout the rest of the day. At the close of trading at 4:00 P.M., the Dow 
finished with a record 337.17 point gain (recovering 61% of the previous day's 
loss) to close at 7,498.32. The market restored $384 billion of the $663 
billion in market capitalization lost the
 previous day. One billion shares were traded on the New York Stock Exchange 
for the first time ever, with a volume of 1.21 billion shares. In 2006 terms, 
this amount is considered very light. The NASDAQ Composite also made a record 
gain on record volume, gaining 67.93 to 1,603.02. The NASDAQ also saw its 
first-ever one-billion share day with 1.23 billion shares changing hands.


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[obrolan-bandar] Re: SENIN, INVISIBLE HAND JAGA ANTM DI BURSA LAGI MERAH

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Rei
There you go again...pontianak with 1 line :-)
It can imply 2 things: hihihi as in "you wish!" or hihihi as 
in "you're right!"
No base for argument here...
Sorry if I am pushing.

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Lee Cwan Yeuw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Hi...hi...hi..hi..hi..hi..
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: anto8384 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, 23 October 2007 9:50:43
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SENIN, INVISIBLE HAND JAGA ANTM DI 
BURSA LAGI MERAH
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> Naiknaik. ...
> 
> ke lima ribu
> 
> tinggitinggi. ...
> 
> sekali
> 
> 
> 
> kiri kanan...
> 
> kulihat.
> 
> hijau
> 
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Saham Multikartu 
> 
>  wrote:
> 
> >
> 
> > Maybe YES Maybe NO..
> 
> > 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] SELL WHEN YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik ALX™
And... Buy *WHEN YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TOO... {\;-)
*...as simple as that...*
*
On 10/23/07, Lee Cwan Yeuw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>


[obrolan-bandar] CUUUUUUUUAAAAAAAANNNNNNNN 8 DIGIT DI ANTM HARI INI.

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Bumi T.
tidak percaya, tp nyata, target Rp. 5000 masih belum tercapai, 
ada
  investor sudah untung 8 digit hari ini saja. 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PREDIKSI INDEX BEJ BESOK ?

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Dennis Chen
Embah, emang Rur Biasa..
Sampe jam 10.00 INDEX + 60 jadi Hijau Segar ya Mbah.
Kemarin yang ngikut Mbah pasti udah tertawa lebarminimal senyum simpul.
Happy cuan ya...


- Original Message 
From: jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 3:20:46 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PREDIKSI INDEX BEJ BESOK ?

Kalo sampe HIJAU, sepertinya HIJAU SEGAR karena Fund Manager
GEDE engga bisa JUALAN hari INI. 

Analisa embah menunjukan TIDAK ADA redempsi DANA GEDE meskipun
IHSG -100, DANA GEDE engga bisa keluar karena ENGGA ADA YG
MAU NAMPUNG.

REKSADANA praktis DIAM KEJEDUT nunggu DJI entar malem...
Ada yg bisa confirmasi ?

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, bob anti <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ..> wrote:
>
> iseng ah..
> maunya sih C
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: Dennis Chen 
> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 2:51:15 PM
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] PREDIKSI INDEX BEJ BESOK ?
> 
> Hi...Para Senior - Suhu - Embah - Pakar 
> Berhubung Index merah membawa sampe 3 digit gini, gimana kalau kita 
prediksi Index BEJ besok ;
> A. BEJ meneruskan merahnya >50 Point
> B. BEJ Merah < 50 Point
> C. BEJ hijau tipis 
> D. BEJ hijau Royo - Royo
> 
> Semakin akurat prediksi para pakar maka semakin "Salute" para 
Newbie.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: The history of OCtober ...crash

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Rei
Mr. Lee...
>From your continuous posts, you seem to tell us that "nuke bomb" is 
coming (like Elaine said) SOON. Is that right? 
You need to tell us more than that rather than posting references 
and 1 liner. Please... Thank you.

Rgds,


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Lee Cwan Yeuw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> A stock market crash is a sudden dramatic decline of stock prices 
across a significant cross-section of a stock market. Crashes are 
driven by panic as much as by underlying economic factors. They 
often follow speculative stock market bubbles.
> 
> Stock market crashes are social phenomena where external economic 
events combine with crowd behaviour and psychology in a positive 
feedback
> loop where selling by some market participants drives more market
> participants to sell. Generally speaking, crashes usually occur 
under
> the following conditions: a prolonged period of rising stock 
prices and
> excessive economic optimism, a market where P/E ratios exceed long-
term averages, and extensive use of margin debt and leverage by 
market participants.
> 
> There is no numerically-specific definition of a crash but the term
> commonly applies to steep double-digit percentage losses in a 
stock market index over a period of several days. Crashes are often 
distinguished from bear markets
> by panic selling and abrupt, dramatic price declines. Bear markets 
are
> periods of declining stock market prices that are measured in 
months or
> years. While crashes are often associated with bear markets, they 
do
> not necessarily go hand in hand. The crash of 1987 for example did 
not
> lead to a bear market. Likewise, the Japanese Nikkei bear market 
of the 1990s occurred over several years without any notable crashes.
> 
> 28 October 1997
> U.S. stock markets were widely expected to open lower for October 
28
> due to the Asian markets falling even more than they did on the 
27th.
> Hong Kong's Hang Seng Index declined a staggering 14%. The Nikkei 
fell
> 4.26%. The U.S. stock markets initially continued their drop from 
the
> 27th, but abruptly ended, and began to climb. The Dow was down as 
much
> as 186 points by 10:06 A.M., and soon thereafter a rally started. 
By
> 10:20 A.M. The Dow was down only 25 points. Five minutes later, 
the Dow
> roared back into positive territory and was up 50 points. Nine 
minutes
> later at 10:34 A.M., the Dow rallied to a triple-digit advance up
> 137.27 points. Stock prices continued to soar in choppy trading
> throughout the rest of the day. At the close of trading at 4:00 
P.M.,
> the Dow finished with a record 337.17 point gain (recovering 61% 
of the
> previous day's loss) to close at 7,498.32. The market restored $384
> billion of the $663 billion in market capitalization lost the 
previous
> day. One billion shares were traded on the New York Stock Exchange 
for the first time ever, with a volume of 1.21 billion shares. In 
2006
> terms, this amount is considered very light. The NASDAQ Composite 
also
> made a record gain on record volume, gaining 67.93 to 1,603.02. The
> NASDAQ also saw its first-ever one-billion share day with 1.23 
billion
> shares changing hands.
> 
> 
> Save your money...before you will be TRAPPED
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SENIN, INVISIBLE HAND JAGA ANTM DI BURSA LAGI MERAH

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
Hi...hi...hi..hi..hi..hi..

- Original Message 
From: anto8384 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 23 October 2007 9:50:43
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SENIN, INVISIBLE HAND JAGA ANTM DI BURSA LAGI 
MERAH









  



Naiknaik. ...

ke lima ribu

tinggitinggi. ...

sekali



kiri kanan...

kulihat.

hijau



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>

> Maybe YES Maybe NO..

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ONE more chance - to Buy Back :)

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik oBet
sayuran ijo nih, jadi nyerbu ga mbah...
atau malah dipanen banking nya?

- Original Message 
From: jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 9:19:09 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ONE more chance - to Buy Back :)


Eropa rebound, Nasdaq +0,7%

Tidak ada tanda tanda Market Crash !!!

Yang belun punya barang di BEJ, buruan beli TLK di Nyse...

Mudah mudahan ulang tahun BLACK MONDAY CRASH di rayakan dengan
SAYURAN HIJAU SEGAR... Mudah mudahan


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 21:10 WIB
> Nasdaq udah plus 
> mudah-2an DJI dan S&P500 menyusul ...
> hopefully 
> 
> salam,
> 
> jsx_consultant wrote:
> > Kalo besok pagi DJI ijo and there is HUGE GAP, embah akan
> > mimpin NYERBU BELANJA di BEJ lagi !!!
> >
> > I am not afraid with my EGO, i am only afraid with DJI because
> > US economy is NOT GOOD...
> >
> > IHSG is in a  very HEALTHY condition.  Capital outflow is still 
> > TOLERABLE. And the BIG BOZZ has a lot of equity in stock ..
> >
> >
>




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ISAT? RE: [obrolan-bandar] Harga TLKM di NYSE ?

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Gandhi Hadiwitanto
Mas Wiro, apakah 40 itu jumlah saham per lot di NYSE? Bagaimana menghitung
harga Rp saham ISAT (IIT) yang tadi pagi ditutup $42,85? Dengan cara yang
sama keluarnya Rp 9.800(?).

 

Salam,

Gandhi 

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Wiro Hardy
Sent: 23 Oktober 2007 7:03
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Harga TLKM di NYSE ?

 

Asumsi kurs 9150:

($49.4 * 9150) / 40 = 11300.25 dibulatkan 11.300

On 10/23/07, master download <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 > wrote:

Please ada yang tahu harga  TLKM di NSYE tadi malam  di convert ke rupiah
jadi berapa?



 



[obrolan-bandar] IHSG +70, IHSG is HEALTHY, Right ... hehehe (9:54)

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
IHSG +70, IHSG is HEALTHY, Right ... hehehe (9:54)


Capital Outflow is still TOLERABLE as embah TOLD you,
IHSG is perfectly HEALTHY

Mau dibom NUKLIR ama Mr kentang, malah jadi FRENCH FRIES lezat.. hehehe..

Special THANKS buat pak Boyz tentang DJI dan buat BOZZ yg
engga mau portfolionya jadi angin










[obrolan-bandar] Re: SENIN, INVISIBLE HAND JAGA ANTM ... ANTM emang LELET naiknya!

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik TerryAstradika
> Hati-hati sama ANTM, Karyawan ANTM aja males pegang sahamnya sendiri.

  dari dulu perilaku saham ANTM ini hampir sama dengan para karyawannya, 
namanya karyawan BUMN tuh lelet2 kerjanya persis pegawai negeri, kalau pas ada 
bosnya baru jaim kerja.
   
  tapi kalau udah kerja, karena emang karyawannya kebanyakan pada lulusan 
tukang insinyur -- giatnya bukan main, tunggu aja deh! saya udah ngamati dari 
2004 kalau saham yang satu ini kalu dah tidur (baca:lelet) leletnya minta ampun 
bikin kesel investornya, tapi kalau dah bangun dan kerja (rally), semakin 
membuat bangga yang memilikinya..
  
saya omdo, mangga wae..toh yang ngalamin juga ane sorangan nee...hehehe...
  
Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
   -- Believe in yourself!!! -- (cut the others messages)

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "master download" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hati-hati sama ANTM, Karyawan ANTM aja males pegang sahamnya 
> sendiri. mereka lebih suka pegang saham PGAS, INCO, PTBA
> Rumornya ...management ANTM lelet , Omong doang realisasi next 
> Projek telat melulu...


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Re: [obrolan-bandar] The history of OCtober ...crash

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw
A stock market crash is a sudden dramatic decline of stock prices across a 
significant cross-section of a stock market. Crashes are driven by panic as 
much as by underlying economic factors. They often follow speculative stock 
market bubbles.

Stock market crashes are social phenomena where external economic events 
combine with crowd behaviour and psychology in a positive feedback
loop where selling by some market participants drives more market
participants to sell. Generally speaking, crashes usually occur under
the following conditions: a prolonged period of rising stock prices and
excessive economic optimism, a market where P/E ratios exceed long-term 
averages, and extensive use of margin debt and leverage by market participants.

There is no numerically-specific definition of a crash but the term
commonly applies to steep double-digit percentage losses in a stock market 
index over a period of several days. Crashes are often distinguished from bear 
markets
by panic selling and abrupt, dramatic price declines. Bear markets are
periods of declining stock market prices that are measured in months or
years. While crashes are often associated with bear markets, they do
not necessarily go hand in hand. The crash of 1987 for example did not
lead to a bear market. Likewise, the Japanese Nikkei bear market of the 1990s 
occurred over several years without any notable crashes.

28 October 1997
U.S. stock markets were widely expected to open lower for October 28
due to the Asian markets falling even more than they did on the 27th.
Hong Kong's Hang Seng Index declined a staggering 14%. The Nikkei fell
4.26%. The U.S. stock markets initially continued their drop from the
27th, but abruptly ended, and began to climb. The Dow was down as much
as 186 points by 10:06 A.M., and soon thereafter a rally started. By
10:20 A.M. The Dow was down only 25 points. Five minutes later, the Dow
roared back into positive territory and was up 50 points. Nine minutes
later at 10:34 A.M., the Dow rallied to a triple-digit advance up
137.27 points. Stock prices continued to soar in choppy trading
throughout the rest of the day. At the close of trading at 4:00 P.M.,
the Dow finished with a record 337.17 point gain (recovering 61% of the
previous day's loss) to close at 7,498.32. The market restored $384
billion of the $663 billion in market capitalization lost the previous
day. One billion shares were traded on the New York Stock Exchange for the 
first time ever, with a volume of 1.21 billion shares. In 2006
terms, this amount is considered very light. The NASDAQ Composite also
made a record gain on record volume, gaining 67.93 to 1,603.02. The
NASDAQ also saw its first-ever one-billion share day with 1.23 billion
shares changing hands.


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[obrolan-bandar] Re: SENIN, INVISIBLE HAND JAGA ANTM DI BURSA LAGI MERAH

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik anto8384
Naiknaik
ke lima ribu
tinggitinggi
sekali

kiri kanan...
kulihat.
hijau

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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Maybe YES Maybe NO..
> 





[obrolan-bandar] Re: ONE more chance

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik hadizhan
Dow cuman naik sedikit. 

Maksudnya Elaine, skenarionya mungkin seperti ini. JSX pagi-pagi 
semangat sebentar, kemudian bila index berhenti, maka trader mulai 
ragu-ragu, dan mulai jualan lagi. Saat itulah baru nuke bombnya 
dilepas (oleh bandar atau terjadi naturally oleh panic selling).

Let's see what will happen.



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Andy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Come on girl or boy, whatever you are, get real!
>  
> Once, I repeat once, you guess, I repeat guess right! You said on a 
red
> day that the closing will be down 2%.
> So what, it went down around 2%, does it mean, YOU MADE IT SO???
>  
> Nobody, I repeat, NOBODY could ever bring the JCI to a nummber that
> he/she like, unless, I repeat unless you have such a huge amount of
> money, but even though you can't or it is very very hard agains the
> market.
> Predicting something that is already on the way, is very easy. So 
don't
> be so cocky for just be right once!
> It doesnt make you an expert!
>  
> Elaborate your prediction, disccuss with us here!
> You wrote "I give you one more chance to get out", well, who are 
we, why
> should you give us a chance?
> Are you an angel for members of our mailing list?
> Doesn't it sound like a moron talking!
>  
> Tommorrow will be red you said??? Well, it looks quite green now 
for me.
> DJIA up around 35 pts now.
> Recession is on the way you said? On what ground?
>  
> I dunno how the Dow will close today, but I do know for sure, you 
are
> not a market maker!
> You talk to much!
>  
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pedagang 
Kentang
> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 7:44 PM
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] ONE more chance
> 
> 
> 
> I'll give you ONE more CHANCE to GET OUT, tomorrow.
> 
> That if I am in a good mood like LCY. 
> 
> Please get up early. You will see a huge GAP. 
> 
> This time a NUKE BOMB is about to come. Prepare yourself. 
> 
> Don't be afraid with the bear. Be afraid with your EGO.
> 
> EL.
>




RE: [obrolan-bandar] Intermezzo.. about trading styles...

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik indriyanta s.
Iya Mas Iwan, udah aku tunggu dari semalem. Akhirnya pagi ini bisa plong 
rasanya... Thanks Pak DE

Iwan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Senang rasanya lihat header 
emailnya “From: Dean Earwicker”.
   
  00:21 
  DJI +40.81 (YahooFinance)
   
  -Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Dean Earwicker
Sent: 23 Oktober 2007 0:12
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Intermezzo.. about trading styles...
   
Embah, Bang IAN, numpang posting,... sekalian menjawab semua japri yang 
masuk... cape kalo bales satu2. :)

Bung DE, kapan/timing buat masuk lagi?
Untuk SAYA, saya baru masuk kalau market sudah tidak terlalu volatile 
(=sideways) dan membentuk ASCENDING TRIANGLE. Market kita long term tetap 
BULLISH. Short term mungkin bearish. Sabar aja, jgn panik. Rasanya gak ada 
masalah dengan ekonomi Indonesia. Hanya profit taking aja.

Hint: strategi long jangan dicampur sama swing, pasti KACAU. Gak percaya? Coba 
aja..hehe..  Make up your mind, what is your trading style?.

Apakah anda sukanya seperti pak Busur yang Buy High Sell Higher?
Atau seperti Embah dengan Bandarmologinya? 
Atau seperti Wan Al dengan analisa FAnya?
Atau seperti pak Sbudiana dengan EGP nya?
Atau seperti pak JA yang kontrarian?
Atau seperti Bang IAN dengan gaya buayanya? <<-- ini perlu diklarifikasi lagi 
nih... :) 

Everyone have their own style.

Setiap strategi memiliki ciri khas sendiri, dan rekomendasi tidak bisa di 
GENERALISIR untuk semua trading style. Percaya deh, rekomendasi bisa BEDA untuk 
satu style dengan style yang lain. Selama anda belum punya trading style, anda 
akan terombang-ambing sama rekomendasi, rumor, hasutan, dsb. 

Jadi bukannya saya gak mau kasih rekomendasi, tapi nanti takutnya jadi 
misleading karena saya gak tahu seperti apa trading style anda. Saya gak punya 
data target price. Pokoknya beli kalau mau naik, jual kalau mau turun. As 
simple as that. Pakai TA klasik rasanya sudah cukup. 

Saran: sebaiknya jangan meniru gaya orang lain. Temukan gaya anda sendiri. 
Trading seperti lagi nyari jodoh. Cocok-cocokan. Mungkin bisa berganti 2-3 
kali, tapi yang penting JANGAN SELINGKUH. 

Strategi saya pribadi:
PSYCHOSWINGESTOR.  <<-- tau deh apa artinya..hehe..

Kenapa bukan daytrading? Krn saya gak sempat mantau market per menit.


Regards,
DE
Masih cuti tapi tetap suka mampir... thanks to my friend in Canada.

  



  

 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] SELL WHEN YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Lee Cwan Yeuw


- Original Message 
From: Dean Earwicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 23 October 2007 12:12:26
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Intermezzo.. about trading styles...









  



Embah, Bang IAN, numpang posting,... sekalian menjawab semua japri 
yang masuk... cape kalo bales satu2. :)

Bung 

DE, kapan/timing buat masuk lagi?
Untuk SAYA, saya baru masuk kalau market sudah tidak terlalu volatile 
(=sideways) dan membentuk ASCENDING TRIANGLE. Market kita long term tetap 
BULLISH. Short term mungkin bearish. Sabar aja, jgn panik.
Rasanya gak ada masalah dengan ekonomi Indonesia. Hanya profit taking aja.

Hint: strategi long jangan dicampur sama swing, pasti KACAU. Gak percaya? Coba 
aja..hehe.. 
 Make up your mind, what is your trading style?.

Apakah anda sukanya seperti pak Busur yang Buy High Sell Higher?
Atau seperti Embah dengan Bandarmologinya?

Atau seperti Wan Al dengan analisa FAnya?
Atau seperti pak Sbudiana dengan EGP nya?
Atau seperti pak JA yang kontrarian?
Atau seperti Bang IAN dengan gaya buayanya? <<-- ini perlu diklarifikasi lagi 
nih... :)


Everyone have their own style.

Setiap strategi memiliki ciri khas sendiri, dan 
rekomendasi tidak bisa di GENERALISIR untuk semua trading style. Percaya deh, 
rekomendasi bisa BEDA untuk satu style dengan style yang lain. Selama anda 
belum punya trading style, anda akan terombang-ambing sama rekomendasi, rumor, 
hasutan, dsb.



Jadi bukannya saya gak mau kasih rekomendasi, tapi nanti takutnya jadi 
misleading karena saya gak tahu seperti apa trading style anda. Saya gak punya 
data target price. Pokoknya beli kalau mau naik, jual kalau mau turun. As 
simple as that. Pakai TA klasik rasanya sudah cukup.


Saran: sebaiknya jangan meniru gaya orang lain. Temukan gaya anda sendiri. 
Trading seperti lagi nyari jodoh. Cocok-cocokan. Mungkin bisa berganti 2-3 
kali, tapi yang penting JANGAN SELINGKUH. 


Strategi saya pribadi:
PSYCHOSWINGESTOR.  <<-- tau deh apa artinya..hehe. .

Kenapa bukan daytrading? Krn saya gak sempat mantau market per menit.


Regards,
DE

Masih cuti tapi tetap suka mampir... thanks to my friend in Canada.





  
























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Re: [obrolan-bandar] ONE more chance

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik ALX™
Haiii...yaa!!!
harusnya masuk lagi kemaren sore
jadi hari ini bisa jualan...
bareng sama si Nuke kalo emang dia jadi dateng... [|;-)
Have a nice day...

Salam
ALX™
-
You'll Never Walk Alone

On 10/22/07, Pedagang Kentang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'll give you ONE more CHANCE to GET OUT, tomorrow.
>
> That if I am in a good mood like LCY.
>
> Please get up early. You will see a huge GAP.
>
> This time a NUKE BOMB is about to come. Prepare yourself.
>
> Don't be afraid with the bear. Be afraid with your EGO.
>
> EL.
> 
>


Re: [obrolan-bandar] jangan saling menyudutkan......

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Rei
Waduh, saya jangan & tidak pantas disejajarkan dgn Mbah, Pak DE, LCY, Pak JA, 
HaMin, Busur, dll...saya mah cuma peanuts yg nggak ngerti apa2 pak, cuma mau 
belajar aja (kayaknya jawabannya klise yah? hehe...tapi kenyataannya memang 
gitu kok).
   
  Salam,
  Rei
  

alfian bachtiar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Saya detuju dengan pak Pemainedan bahwa dimillis ini tidak perlu 
ada umpatan, makian dll, apabila prediksi yang disampaikan kurang tepat. Kita 
bebas menyampaikan analisa dan prediksi disini selama itu tidak menyesatkan, 
salah benar itukan prediksi..
  Kita sangat berteima kasih kepada senior kita spt   Embah, pak DE, Mr Lee, 
Pak James, Pak REI dll informasi beliau sangat berguna dan kita bisa dapat ilmu 
dari beliau, jangan sampai karena umpatan, beliau2 keluar dari millis ini 
...kita yang rugi.
   
  salam


  - Pesan Asli 
Dari: pemainedan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Terkirim: Senin, 22 Oktober, 2007 10:56:15
Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ONE more chance

Sudah, jgn bermusuhan terus dong (terutama pak Rei & pak James nih). 
Semua di sini 'kan berhak mengutarakan pendapat, gaya jutek sih tdk 
apa2, si Mbah juga gak keberatan koq. 

Asal jgn ngomong kasar spt "anjing", "bedebah", dll aja... hehehe...

Kalau dia mau buang portofolio & pak Rei/James mau collect... jadi 
klop 'kan.

Lagipula, walaupun gaya jutek, saya rasa niatnya baik koq. Kasih 
warning bom dan bom yg disebutnya benar2 ada. Pertama Little Boy 
2,02% Jumat, lalu Fat Man 4,30% hari ini. 

Apa bbrp hari lagi ada Tsar Bomba? Kalau kata pak James/Rei tidak, 
ya sudah... cuekin saja miss Elaine. Tp saya yakin banyak jg yg 
mengambil manfaat dr warning miss Elaine ini. 

Ini bukan belain miss Elaine nih. Cm ya, saya akui, saya tertarik 
juga dg model cw agresif spt miss Elaine ini... hehehe...

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "James Arifin" 
 wrote:
>
> Ini orang bullshit juga bilang mau cao dan nggak jadi investasi di
> bursa BEJ tapi tetap balik ... emang dimana juga ada gula ada 
semut,
> stress mesti cari barang murah sebanyak-banyaknya buat persiapan
> indeks ke 4500 (2009-2011) sesuai prediksi salah satu Master TA
> 
> Regards.
> 
> On 10/22/07, Pedagang Kentang <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I'll give you ONE more CHANCE to GET OUT, tomorrow.
> >
> > That if I am in a good mood like LCY.
> >
> > Please get up early. You will see a huge GAP.
> >
> > This time a NUKE BOMB is about to come. Prepare yourself.
> >
> > Don't be afraid with the bear. Be afraid with your EGO.
> >
> > EL.
> >
>




  



  
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: SENIN, INVISIBLE HAND JAGA ANTM DI BURSA LAGI MERAH

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Rei
"Rumput tetangga selalu lebih hijau"...ingat?
Masa ini dijadikan patokan utk pegang antm atau tidak? hehehe...
PTBA malah yg selalu dibilang omdo, sahamnya cukup oke toh? 
Believe in yourself!!!

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "master download" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hati-hati  sama ANTM, Karyawan ANTM aja males pegang sahamnya 
sendiri.
> mereka lebih suka pegang saham PGAS, INCO, PTBA
> Rumornya ...management ANTM  lelet , Omong doang realisasi next 
Projek telat
> melulu...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/22/07, alfian bachtiar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   jangan sombong  nanti di enrg kan gimana ???
> > di ANTM bisa muntah darah ini saham aku juga cut 
loss...paling besok
> > juga turun lagi
> >
> > - Pesan Asli 
> > Dari: tbumi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > Terkirim: Senin, 22 Oktober, 2007 1:38:44
> > Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SENIN, INVISIBLE HAND JAGA ANTM DI 
BURSA LAGI
> > MERAH
> >
> >  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com,
> > Lee Cwan Yeuw 
> > wrote:
> > > heee heee heee, ternyata Lee Cwan Yeuw sudah kebakaran jenggot
> > karena tidak dapat barang murah di antm.
> > investor sudah sadar, penurunan saham ini karena faktor luar
> > dan tidak perlu dikhawatirkan oleh investor.
> > rebound antm pasti sangat cepat sekali dan target 5000 di akhir
> > tahun pasti tercapai, karena saham antm banyak sekali diburu oleh
> > investor.
> >
> > > hi...hi...hi. ..hii .hiii.hi. hiii i
> > >
> > > - Original Message 
> > > From: fub3f 
> > > To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
> > > Sent: Monday, 22 October 2007 5:45:32
> > > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SENIN, INVISIBLE HAND JAGA ANTM 
DI
> > BURSA LAGI MERAH
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> > > > target 5000 akan tercapai di akhir 2007. pernah di 3575 tgl
> > >
> > > 18-oktober-2007. bandar butuh waktu dan strategi utk mencapai
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> > > target 5000. disini kesabaran anda diuji oleh bandar.
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> > > bandar butuh waktu juga mencapai target 5000 dan tentu investor
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> > > butuh waktu utk menikmati target 5000 ini.
> > >
> > > bandar antm pakai sistem win win solution dgn investor, agar
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> > > > Klo TP 5000, laku nggak ya
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[obrolan-bandar] jangan saling menyudutkan......

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik alfian bachtiar
Saya detuju dengan pak Pemainedan bahwa dimillis ini tidak perlu ada umpatan, 
makian dll, apabila prediksi yang disampaikan kurang tepat. Kita bebas 
menyampaikan analisa dan prediksi disini selama itu tidak menyesatkan, salah 
benar itukan prediksi..
Kita sangat berteima kasih kepada senior kita spt   Embah, pak DE, Mr Lee, Pak 
James, Pak REI dll informasi beliau sangat berguna dan kita bisa dapat ilmu 
dari beliau, jangan sampai karena umpatan, beliau2 keluar dari millis ini 
...kita yang rugi.

salam


- Pesan Asli 
Dari: pemainedan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Terkirim: Senin, 22 Oktober, 2007 10:56:15
Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ONE more chance

Sudah, jgn bermusuhan terus dong (terutama pak Rei & pak James nih). 
Semua di sini 'kan berhak mengutarakan pendapat, gaya jutek sih tdk 
apa2, si Mbah juga gak keberatan koq. 

Asal jgn ngomong kasar spt "anjing", "bedebah", dll aja hehehe...

Kalau dia mau buang portofolio & pak Rei/James mau collect... jadi 
klop 'kan.

Lagipula, walaupun gaya jutek, saya rasa niatnya baik koq. Kasih 
warning bom dan bom yg disebutnya benar2 ada. Pertama Little Boy 
2,02% Jumat, lalu Fat Man 4,30% hari ini. 

Apa bbrp hari lagi ada Tsar Bomba? Kalau kata pak James/Rei tidak, 
ya sudah... cuekin saja miss Elaine. Tp saya yakin banyak jg yg 
mengambil manfaat dr warning miss Elaine ini. 

Ini bukan belain miss Elaine nih. Cm ya, saya akui, saya tertarik 
juga dg model cw agresif spt miss Elaine ini... hehehe

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "James Arifin" 
 wrote:
>
> Ini orang bullshit juga bilang mau cao dan nggak jadi investasi di
> bursa BEJ tapi tetap balik ... emang dimana juga ada gula ada 
semut,
> stress mesti cari barang murah sebanyak-banyaknya buat persiapan
> indeks ke 4500 (2009-2011) sesuai prediksi salah satu Master TA
> 
> Regards.
> 
> On 10/22/07, Pedagang Kentang <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .> wrote:
> >
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> > I'll give you ONE more CHANCE to GET OUT, tomorrow.
> >
> > That if I am in a good mood like LCY.
> >
> > Please get up early. You will see a huge GAP.
> >
> > This time a NUKE BOMB is about to come. Prepare yourself.
> >
> > Don't be afraid with the bear. Be afraid with your EGO.
> >
> > EL.
> >
>





   
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] to : Pak Busur

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik gunawan yk
Pak Budi,itu kalo exit alertnya index ,gimana kalo pas index gak
volatile tapi saham kita yg volatile,exit pointnya seperti apa?
(seandainya ada  open profit)


thx
gunawan
yk

On 10/23/07, budi suryono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ya pak,saya udah bersih, ada tinggal dikit, gak signifcant, tinggal diem
> nunggu next opportunity yang selalu ada.Sebenarnya ada satu rule exit saya
> yang saya pegang, lebih ke allert,kalau index minus lebih 1,5%,saya
> keluar/paling nggak sebagian.,lebih dari 2%harus bersih(lepas besok rebound
> atau nggak,itu urusan lain), rule ini selama ini menyelamatkan capital
> saya,rgds
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> James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   Mengacu pada file2 dan tulisan2 pak Busur di masa masa lalu,
> mestinya
> beliau sudah cash out dari hari Jum'at lalu atau malah Rabu lalu
> karena dalam email terdahulu beliau, beliau cenderung untuk exit saat
> volatilitas market naik lebih dari 10%, Rabu lalu saham pegangan
> beliau naik 20% dalam 1hari.
>
> Dalam pelajaran TA yang pernah saya ikuti yang diberikan oleh pak
> Haryajid, pergerakan saham yang slope >70% maka akan mudah dan rawan
> koreksi. Bertahun-tahun saya amati hal ini dan memang demikianlah
> kejadian. Saham selalu turun setelah spike dan naik dengan slope lebih
> dari 70%
>
> Mungkin pak Busur bisa sharing exit pointnya karena saya melihat exit
> strategy beliau sudah berubah dibanding exit strategy dalam posting
> dahulu sehingga mungkin perlu diupdate lagi
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> On 10/20/07, Karno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Betul Pak Busur ?
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] PREDIKSI INDEX BEJ BESOK ?

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik yadi faris
B. jg (SOL)

On 10/22/07, Resky Aindhaka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com  on
> behalf of Dennis Chen
> Sent: Mon 10/22/2007 2:51 PM
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] PREDIKSI INDEX BEJ BESOK ?
>
> Hi...Para Senior - Suhu - Embah - Pakar
> Berhubung Index merah membawa sampe 3 digit gini, gimana kalau kita
> prediksi Index BEJ besok ;
> A. BEJ meneruskan merahnya >50 Point
> B. BEJ Merah < 50 Point
> C. BEJ hijau tipis
> D. BEJ hijau Royo - Royo
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] ONE more chance

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Gandhi Hadiwitanto
Maksudnya, kalau mood-nya jelek, dia tidak akan kasih info peringatan
seperti ini.

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Armando Anthony
Sent: 22 Oktober 2007 22:52
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ONE more chance

 

Thanks for the warning, BUT WHAT HAPPEN IF YOU'RE NOT IN A GOOD MOOD LIKE
LCY? Will it be on the other way around?

Pedagang Kentang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

I'll give you ONE more CHANCE to GET OUT, tomorrow.

That if I am in a good mood like LCY. 

Please get up early. You will see a huge GAP. 

This time a NUKE BOMB is about to come. Prepare yourself. 

Don't be afraid with the bear. Be afraid with your EGO.

EL.

 

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BUMN + ASING RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SENIN, INVISIBLE HAND JAGA ANTM DI BURSA LAGI MERAH

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Gandhi Hadiwitanto
Yang paling bagus itu adalah BUMN yang ada pemegang saham asingnya (termasuk
di tim manajemennya). Kombinasi ini menciptakan manajemen yang bagus dan
rajin bagi deviden.

 

Salam,

Gandhi 

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of master download
Sent: 22 Oktober 2007 22:44
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SENIN, INVISIBLE HAND JAGA ANTM DI BURSA
LAGI MERAH

 

Hati-hati  sama ANTM, Karyawan ANTM aja males pegang sahamnya sendiri.
mereka lebih suka pegang saham PGAS, INCO, PTBA
Rumornya ...management ANTM  lelet , Omong doang realisasi next Projek telat
melulu...






On 10/22/07, alfian bachtiar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

jangan sombong  nanti di enrg kan gimana ??? 

di ANTM bisa muntah darah ini saham aku juga cut loss...paling besok
juga turun lagi

- Pesan Asli 
Dari: tbumi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Terkirim: Senin, 22 Oktober, 2007 1:38:44
Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SENIN, INVISIBLE HAND JAGA ANTM DI BURSA LAGI
MERAH

--- In obrolan-bandar@ 
yahoogroups. com, Lee Cwan Yeuw <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > 
wrote:
> heee heee heee, ternyata Lee Cwan Yeuw sudah kebakaran jenggot
karena tidak dapat barang murah di antm.
investor sudah sadar, penurunan saham ini karena faktor luar
dan tidak perlu dikhawatirkan oleh investor. 
rebound antm pasti sangat cepat sekali dan target 5000 di akhir
tahun pasti tercapai, karena saham antm banyak sekali diburu oleh
investor.

> hi...hi...hi. ..hii .hiii.hi. hiii i 
> 
> - Original Message 

> From: fub3f <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 
> Sent: Monday, 22 October 2007 5:45:32
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SENIN, INVISIBLE HAND JAGA ANTM DI 
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> 18-oktober-2007. bandar butuh waktu dan strategi utk mencapai 
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> target 5000. disini kesabaran anda diuji oleh bandar.
> 
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> 
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> 
> bandar antm pakai sistem win win solution dgn investor, agar
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> 
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> > Klo TP 5000, laku nggak ya 
> 
> > 
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> > - Original Message 
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> > To: OBROLAN-BANDAR@ ...
> 
> > Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 1:56:46 PM 
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ONE more chance - to Buy Back :)

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Gandhi Hadiwitanto
Mega sale-nya kemarin, baru belanjanya hari ini? Apa nggak terlambat?

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Data Saham
Sent: 22 Oktober 2007 21:54
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ONE more chance - to Buy Back :)

 

IYA MBAHBESOK MOGA2 DOW IJO...TRUS KITA SERBU BEJ

jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Eropa rebound, Nasdaq +0,7%

Tidak ada tanda tanda Market Crash !!!

Yang belun punya barang di BEJ, buruan beli TLK di Nyse...

Mudah mudahan ulang tahun BLACK MONDAY CRASH di rayakan dengan
SAYURAN HIJAU SEGAR... Mudah mudahan

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 , boyz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 21:10 WIB
> Nasdaq udah plus 
> mudah-2an DJI dan S&P500 menyusul ...
> hopefully 
> 
> salam,
> 
> jsx_consultant wrote:
> > Kalo besok pagi DJI ijo and there is HUGE GAP, embah akan
> > mimpin NYERBU BELANJA di BEJ lagi !!!
> >
> > I am not afraid with my EGO, i am only afraid with DJI because
> > US economy is NOT GOOD...
> >
> > IHSG is in a very HEALTHY condition. Capital outflow is still 
> > TOLERABLE. And the BIG BOZZ has a lot of equity in stock ..
> >
> >
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[obrolan-bandar] ijo royo-royo

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik adi_tvri
data blomberg :
DJIA INDEX 13,639.00 : + 29.00 
S&P 500 1,518.10 : + 4.70   
NASDAQ 2,187.00 :+ 15.25

kecuali eropa / afrika minus

jadi mbah mimpin beli saham BEJ hari ni ?

horihsg ijo royo-royo too

salam
adi



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Harga TLKM di NYSE ?

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Eko Sakapurnama
  PT TELEKOMUNIKASI IN (NYSE:TLK)   After Hours: 
49.45  0.05 (0.09%) as of 5:26PM ET on 10/22/07Last Trade:  
49.40Trade Time:  4:00PM ETChange:   0.11 (0.22%)Prev Close:  49.51 
   Open:  48.98Bid:  N/AAsk:  N/A1y Target Est:  55.17  
  Day's Range:  47.58 - 49.7152wk Range:  35.40 - 56.94Volume:  
771,600Avg Vol (3m):  350,174Market Cap:  24.64BP/E (ttm):  19.00   
 EPS (ttm):  2.60Div & Yield:  1.14 (2.20%) 1d  5d  3m  6m  1y  
2y  5y  maxMarket Updates Hourly from Fox Business Now. 
Watch.


master download <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Please ada yang tahu harga  
TLKM di NSYE tadi malam  di convert ke rupiah jadi berapa?

Thanks..

Tony.


 

   
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Bangun tidur..langsung liat DJI..wah suegerrr... ;)

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik sulistyo_winarto
Wah... jualan lagi nih,
Apalagi komoditi minyak, emas , gas pada mlorot..

thanks




RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PREDIKSI INDEX BEJ BESOK ?

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Gandhi Hadiwitanto
Setuju 100%. Asal perusahaan-perusahaan emiten BEJ bisa menunjukkan kinerja
bagus dan pemerintah ngurus ekonomi dengan bener, IHSG bisa kayak Shanghai
Composite Index. Gak peduli sama DJIA. 

 

Salam,

Gandhi

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of john ramos butarbutar
Sent: 22 Oktober 2007 17:15
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PREDIKSI INDEX BEJ BESOK ?

 

Kalau menurut saya begini mbah
Coba kita berpikir secara besaran, bahwa ternyata laporan keuangan 
perusahaan2 di USA banyak yg jeblok terseret Krisis Kredit Perumahan 
dimana ternyata PPP ( Purchasing Power Parity ) masyrakat disana 
juga mengalami penurunan dusterjadilah penurunan pendapatan 
banyak perusahaan disana, disamping tingginya harga minyak,dan 
ditambah lagi pernyataan bernanke yg mengatakan bahwa krisis kredit 
perumahan ini akan memakan waktu beberapa tahun ke depan utk 
memulihkannya, oleh karena itu banyak investor yg keluar dari NYSE, 
sekarang dana-dana yg keluar ini akan menganggur dan akan mencari 
tempat yg layak utk diinvestasikan biasanya mereka akan 
menginvestasikan di negara2 second liner pada emerging marketnya krn 
dianggap akan bertumbuh PPP masyarakatnya, Salah satunya adalah 
Indonesia.

Jadi menurut saya Index kita hanya akan terjadi koreksi saja karena 
dalam waktu dekat akan masuk lagi aliran modal asing ke BEJ yang 
berasal dari investor Arab, Jepang dan Amerika yang keluar dari NYSE

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 , "jsx_consultant"  wrote:
>
> Kalo sampe HIJAU, sepertinya HIJAU SEGAR karena Fund Manager
> GEDE engga bisa JUALAN hari INI. 
> 
> Analisa embah menunjukan TIDAK ADA redempsi DANA GEDE meskipun
> IHSG -100, DANA GEDE engga bisa keluar karena ENGGA ADA YG
> MAU NAMPUNG
> 
> REKSADANA praktis DIAM KEJEDUT nunggu DJI entar malem...
> Ada yg bisa confirmasi ?
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 , bob anti  wrote:
> >
> > iseng ah..
> > maunya sih C
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > - Original Message 
> > From: Dennis Chen 
> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 
> > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 2:51:15 PM
> > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] PREDIKSI INDEX BEJ BESOK ?
> > 
> > Hi...Para Senior - Suhu - Embah - Pakar 
> > Berhubung Index merah membawa sampe 3 digit gini, gimana kalau 
kita 
> prediksi Index BEJ besok ;
> > A. BEJ meneruskan merahnya >50 Point
> > B. BEJ Merah < 50 Point
> > C. BEJ hijau tipis 
> > D. BEJ hijau Royo - Royo
> > 
> > Semakin akurat prediksi para pakar maka semakin "Salute" para 
> Newbie.
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Balasan: OOT mimpi RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ONE more chance

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik aminun nahari
rekomendasi yang diserbu apa mbah?
pokoknya tembak yang disuka?
thanks
amn

--- Mudy Situmorang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Jadi teringat kisah jaman perjoeangan: Soeraboeaya
> 1945
> 
> Ijo mbah IJO
> MAJU MBH... maj serbuuu/.
> 
> Dor dor 
> 
> Rawe-rawe rantas malang-malang putung
> 
> Bumm derderderder...
> 
> Jangan takut mbah... kami dibelakangmu
> 
> /me: ngumpet sambil ngintip. Mbah sedang lari-lari
> gowo revolver ngejer tank
> Sherman Inggris, dibelakangnya ada jsxtraders pake
> bambu runcing, Bung Dayan
> ikut lari bawa kelewang. 
> 
> Liat kebelakang, Pedagang Kentang sedang digebukin
> rame-rame, ada yang
> bilang dukun santet, ada yang bilang mata-mata NICA.
> Indah Renata lagi masak
> di dapur umum, sama Maria Renata habis digodain
> Bung Dayan.
> 
> 
> Merdeka!!!
> 
> Sory, lagi ngimpi :-) Cheers.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of jsxtraders
> Sent: 22 Oktober 2007 20:25
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ONE more chance
> 
> SAYA IKUT MBAH !! sebutin aja kapan...
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
> "jsx_consultant"  [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Kalo besok pagi DJI ijo and there is HUGE GAP,
> embah akan
> > mimpin NYERBU BELANJA di BEJ lagi !!!
> > 
> > I am not afraid with my EGO, i am only afraid with
> DJI because
> > US economy is NOT GOOD...
> > 
> > IHSG is in a  very HEALTHY condition.  Capital
> outflow is still 
> > TOLERABLE. And the BIG BOZZ has a lot of equity in
> stock ...
> > 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Pedagang
> Kentang" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > I'll give you ONE more CHANCE to GET OUT,
> tomorrow.
> > > 
> > > That if I am in a good mood like LCY.
> > > 
> > > Please get up early. You will see a huge GAP.
> > > 
> > > This time a NUKE BOMB is about to come. Prepare
> yourself.
> > > 
> > > Don't be afraid with the bear. Be afraid with
> your EGO.
> > > 
> > > EL.
> > >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> + +
> + + + + +
> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama
> dihapus 
> kecuali memang diperlukan.
> + + + + +
> + + 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



   
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Intermezzo.. about trading styles...

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Iwan
Senang rasanya lihat header emailnya "From: Dean Earwicker".

 

00:21 

DJI +40.81 (YahooFinance)

 

-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Dean Earwicker
Sent: 23 Oktober 2007 0:12
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Intermezzo.. about trading styles...

 

Embah, Bang IAN, numpang posting,... sekalian menjawab semua japri yang
masuk... cape kalo bales satu2. :)

Bung DE, kapan/timing buat masuk lagi?
Untuk SAYA, saya baru masuk kalau market sudah tidak terlalu volatile
(=sideways) dan membentuk ASCENDING TRIANGLE. Market kita long term tetap
BULLISH. Short term mungkin bearish. Sabar aja, jgn panik. Rasanya gak ada
masalah dengan ekonomi Indonesia. Hanya profit taking aja.

Hint: strategi long jangan dicampur sama swing, pasti KACAU. Gak percaya?
Coba aja..hehe..  Make up your mind, what is your trading style?.

Apakah anda sukanya seperti pak Busur yang Buy High Sell Higher?
Atau seperti Embah dengan Bandarmologinya? 
Atau seperti Wan Al dengan analisa FAnya?
Atau seperti pak Sbudiana dengan EGP nya?
Atau seperti pak JA yang kontrarian?
Atau seperti Bang IAN dengan gaya buayanya? <<-- ini perlu diklarifikasi
lagi nih... :) 

Everyone have their own style.

Setiap strategi memiliki ciri khas sendiri, dan rekomendasi tidak bisa di
GENERALISIR untuk semua trading style. Percaya deh, rekomendasi bisa BEDA
untuk satu style dengan style yang lain. Selama anda belum punya trading
style, anda akan terombang-ambing sama rekomendasi, rumor, hasutan, dsb. 

Jadi bukannya saya gak mau kasih rekomendasi, tapi nanti takutnya jadi
misleading karena saya gak tahu seperti apa trading style anda. Saya gak
punya data target price. Pokoknya beli kalau mau naik, jual kalau mau turun.
As simple as that. Pakai TA klasik rasanya sudah cukup. 

Saran: sebaiknya jangan meniru gaya orang lain. Temukan gaya anda sendiri.
Trading seperti lagi nyari jodoh. Cocok-cocokan. Mungkin bisa berganti 2-3
kali, tapi yang penting JANGAN SELINGKUH. 

Strategi saya pribadi:
PSYCHOSWINGESTOR.  <<-- tau deh apa artinya..hehe..

Kenapa bukan daytrading? Krn saya gak sempat mantau market per menit.


Regards,
DE
Masih cuti tapi tetap suka mampir... thanks to my friend in Canada.

 



RE: [obrolan-bandar] ONE more chance

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Andy
Come on girl or boy, whatever you are, get real!
 
Once, I repeat once, you guess, I repeat guess right! You said on a red
day that the closing will be down 2%.
So what, it went down around 2%, does it mean, YOU MADE IT SO???
 
Nobody, I repeat, NOBODY could ever bring the JCI to a nummber that
he/she like, unless, I repeat unless you have such a huge amount of
money, but even though you can't or it is very very hard agains the
market.
Predicting something that is already on the way, is very easy. So don't
be so cocky for just be right once!
It doesnt make you an expert!
 
Elaborate your prediction, disccuss with us here!
You wrote "I give you one more chance to get out", well, who are we, why
should you give us a chance?
Are you an angel for members of our mailing list?
Doesn't it sound like a moron talking!
 
Tommorrow will be red you said??? Well, it looks quite green now for me.
DJIA up around 35 pts now.
Recession is on the way you said? On what ground?
 
I dunno how the Dow will close today, but I do know for sure, you are
not a market maker!
You talk to much!
 
 

-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pedagang Kentang
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 7:44 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] ONE more chance



I'll give you ONE more CHANCE to GET OUT, tomorrow.

That if I am in a good mood like LCY. 

Please get up early. You will see a huge GAP. 

This time a NUKE BOMB is about to come. Prepare yourself. 

Don't be afraid with the bear. Be afraid with your EGO.

EL.


 



[obrolan-bandar] Re: ONE more chance

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik jsxtraders
biasa Pak kalo index/portofolio lagi merah emosi suka cepet naik. 
mungkin si pedagang kentang ini juga lagi 'merah' mangkanya jutek... 
saya juga suka yang jutek sih, tapi yang lagi ngga 'merah' ...he..he

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "pemainedan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Sudah, jgn bermusuhan terus dong (terutama pak Rei & pak James 
nih). 
> Semua di sini 'kan berhak mengutarakan pendapat, gaya jutek sih tdk 
> apa2, si Mbah juga gak keberatan koq. 
> 
> Asal jgn ngomong kasar spt "anjing", "bedebah", dll aja... hehehe...
> 
> Kalau dia mau buang portofolio & pak Rei/James mau collect... jadi 
> klop 'kan.
> 
> Lagipula, walaupun gaya jutek, saya rasa niatnya baik koq. Kasih 
> warning bom dan bom yg disebutnya benar2 ada. Pertama Little Boy 
> 2,02% Jumat, lalu Fat Man 4,30% hari ini. 
> 
> Apa bbrp hari lagi ada Tsar Bomba? Kalau kata pak James/Rei tidak, 
> ya sudah... cuekin saja miss Elaine. Tp saya yakin banyak jg yg 
> mengambil manfaat dr warning miss Elaine ini. 
> 
> Ini bukan belain miss Elaine nih. Cm ya, saya akui, saya tertarik 
> juga dg model cw agresif spt miss Elaine ini... hehehe...
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "James Arifin" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > Ini orang bullshit juga bilang mau cao dan nggak jadi investasi di
> > bursa BEJ tapi tetap balik ... emang dimana juga ada gula ada 
> semut,
> > stress mesti cari barang murah sebanyak-banyaknya buat persiapan
> > indeks ke 4500 (2009-2011) sesuai prediksi salah satu Master TA
> > 
> > Regards.
> > 
> > On 10/22/07, Pedagang Kentang  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'll give you ONE more CHANCE to GET OUT, tomorrow.
> > >
> > > That if I am in a good mood like LCY.
> > >
> > > Please get up early. You will see a huge GAP.
> > >
> > > This time a NUKE BOMB is about to come. Prepare yourself.
> > >
> > > Don't be afraid with the bear. Be afraid with your EGO.
> > >
> > > EL.
> > >
> >
>




Re: [obrolan-bandar] ONE more chance

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Little John
dear folks.
please remember.as he said, he will make a huge GAP if ONLY
he is in a GOOD MOOD...ONLY GOOD MOODotherwise
just watch BEJ SLAUGHTERING PART 2

  - Original Message - 
  From: Pedagang Kentang 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 7:43 PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] ONE more chance


  I'll give you ONE more CHANCE to GET OUT, tomorrow.

  That if I am in a good mood like LCY. 

  Please get up early. You will see a huge GAP. 

  This time a NUKE BOMB is about to come. Prepare yourself. 

  Don't be afraid with the bear. Be afraid with your EGO.

  EL.


   

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ONE more chance

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Coba Coba
BTW kalau Pedagang Kentang ini cewe sungguhan, tantangan dia tempo hari agar
"ludahin saya" bisa bermakna lain, ya? He..he..he

On 10/22/07, pemainedan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Sudah, jgn bermusuhan terus dong (terutama pak Rei & pak James nih).
> Semua di sini 'kan berhak mengutarakan pendapat, gaya jutek sih tdk
> apa2, si Mbah juga gak keberatan koq.
>
> Asal jgn ngomong kasar spt "anjing", "bedebah", dll aja... hehehe...
>
> Kalau dia mau buang portofolio & pak Rei/James mau collect... jadi
> klop 'kan.
>
> Lagipula, walaupun gaya jutek, saya rasa niatnya baik koq. Kasih
> warning bom dan bom yg disebutnya benar2 ada. Pertama Little Boy
> 2,02% Jumat, lalu Fat Man 4,30% hari ini.
>
> Apa bbrp hari lagi ada Tsar Bomba? Kalau kata pak James/Rei tidak,
> ya sudah... cuekin saja miss Elaine. Tp saya yakin banyak jg yg
> mengambil manfaat dr warning miss Elaine ini.
>
> Ini bukan belain miss Elaine nih. Cm ya, saya akui, saya tertarik
> juga dg model cw agresif spt miss Elaine ini... hehehe...
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> "James Arifin"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Ini orang bullshit juga bilang mau cao dan nggak jadi investasi di
> > bursa BEJ tapi tetap balik ... emang dimana juga ada gula ada
> semut,
> > stress mesti cari barang murah sebanyak-banyaknya buat persiapan
> > indeks ke 4500 (2009-2011) sesuai prediksi salah satu Master TA
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > On 10/22/07, Pedagang Kentang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'll give you ONE more CHANCE to GET OUT, tomorrow.
> > >
> > > That if I am in a good mood like LCY.
> > >
> > > Please get up early. You will see a huge GAP.
> > >
> > > This time a NUKE BOMB is about to come. Prepare yourself.
> > >
> > > Don't be afraid with the bear. Be afraid with your EGO.
> > >
> > > EL.
> > >
> >
>
>  
>


Re: [obrolan-bandar] ONE more chance

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Little John
I like ur style Mr James Arifin...

  - Original Message - 
  From: James Arifin 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 9:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ONE more chance


  Ini orang bullshit juga bilang mau cao dan nggak jadi investasi di
  bursa BEJ tapi tetap balik ... emang dimana juga ada gula ada semut,
  stress mesti cari barang murah sebanyak-banyaknya buat persiapan
  indeks ke 4500 (2009-2011) sesuai prediksi salah satu Master TA

  Regards.

  On 10/22/07, Pedagang Kentang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > I'll give you ONE more CHANCE to GET OUT, tomorrow.
  >
  > That if I am in a good mood like LCY.
  >
  > Please get up early. You will see a huge GAP.
  >
  > This time a NUKE BOMB is about to come. Prepare yourself.
  >
  > Don't be afraid with the bear. Be afraid with your EGO.
  >
  > EL.
  > 


   

[obrolan-bandar] Gerhana dah lewat.. kiri kanan si hijau nampak kembali..

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik cipto_jh
berseri kembali...
hmmm.. indahnya bunga2-nya...
giliran lebah mengisi kembali belanga madunya...
jadi sentimentil...hihihi
:P



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ONE more chance

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik jacksen aja
>
> hore (kentang biru) blue chip trader datang kembali.. one more chance yah,
> soalnya ada brp yg lom sempet di obral nih, pagi2 yah, bombnya siang2
> aja wokekkk.. btw dow lagi ber halilintar nih..
> 
>


Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ONE more chance - to Buy Back :)

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik SeV
lagi pada merah2 nih mbah US
mbah ama bozz lagi punya banyak muatan ya.. blom sempet dibuang ya ya
udah buang aja ke kita2 dengan diskon 50% itung2 cuci gudang akhir taon
plus bonus buat kita deh mbah... hehehee... piss.. mbah.. ^0^!

> Eropa rebound, Nasdaq +0,7%
>
> Tidak ada tanda tanda Market Crash !!!
>
> Yang belun punya barang di BEJ, buruan beli TLK di Nyse...
>
> Mudah mudahan ulang tahun BLACK MONDAY CRASH di rayakan dengan
> SAYURAN HIJAU SEGAR... Mudah mudahan
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> 21:10 WIB
>> Nasdaq udah plus 
>> mudah-2an DJI dan S&P500 menyusul ...
>> hopefully 
>>
>> salam,
>>
>> jsx_consultant wrote:
>> > Kalo besok pagi DJI ijo and there is HUGE GAP, embah akan
>> > mimpin NYERBU BELANJA di BEJ lagi !!!
>> >
>> > I am not afraid with my EGO, i am only afraid with DJI because
>> > US economy is NOT GOOD...
>> >
>> > IHSG is in a  very HEALTHY condition.  Capital outflow is still
>> > TOLERABLE. And the BIG BOZZ has a lot of equity in stock ..
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>




Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ONE more chance - to Buy Back :)

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Chandra Situmeang
Bisa aja DJI tetap merah tipis, tapi tetap besok IHSG harus hijau, mari 
berpikir jernih.:)

jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Eropa rebound, Nasdaq +0,7%

Tidak ada tanda tanda Market Crash !!!

Yang belun punya barang di BEJ, buruan beli TLK di Nyse...

Mudah mudahan ulang tahun BLACK MONDAY CRASH di rayakan dengan
SAYURAN HIJAU SEGAR... Mudah mudahan

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 21:10 WIB
> Nasdaq udah plus 
> mudah-2an DJI dan S&P500 menyusul ...
> hopefully 
> 
> salam,
> 
> jsx_consultant wrote:
> > Kalo besok pagi DJI ijo and there is HUGE GAP, embah akan
> > mimpin NYERBU BELANJA di BEJ lagi !!!
> >
> > I am not afraid with my EGO, i am only afraid with DJI because
> > US economy is NOT GOOD...
> >
> > IHSG is in a very HEALTHY condition. Capital outflow is still 
> > TOLERABLE. And the BIG BOZZ has a lot of equity in stock ..
> >
> >
>



 

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: ONE more chance

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik jsxtraders

> > I'll give you ONE more CHANCE to GET OUT, tomorrow.
> >
> > That if I am in a good mood like LCY.
> >
> > Please get up early. You will see a huge GAP.
> >

yes when I 'get up' I will look for a 'gap', not a huge one but a tiny 
one near me... hi,,hi


> > This time a NUKE BOMB is about to come. Prepare yourself.
> >
> > Don't be afraid with the bear. Be afraid with your EGO.
> >
> > EL.
> >
>




[obrolan-bandar] NOT TO SEE THE CRASHED MARKET, BETTER TO SEE YOUR BEAUTIFUL WIFE

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik EWW WWE
bagi investor yg suka stress dan bahkan panik, lebih baik sementara jangan
  buka computer anda utk mengikuti market saham. lebih baik biarkan pendekar
  pendekar saling bertarung utk menaikkan saham anda disuatu hari.  

   
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Reksadana....menggiurkan dan optimistis !

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Ramos Lambok Parlaungan Simatupang
Temansss semua...

Terima kasih atas tanggapannya atas pertanyaan saya mengenai reksadana..

Saya tambah pinter deh.. walopun dikit2 nambahnya :-)

Terimakasih yah!

 



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of budihadi
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 10:59 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Reksadanamenggiurkan dan
optimistis !

 

Sama-sama pak.
Buat saya, alasan lain adalah : DIVERSIFIKASI (tentunya setelah "sedikit
ngerti" marketnya).

Salam.

- Original Message - 
From: "investor_ngesot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 >
To: mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com> >
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 7:21 AM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Reksadanamenggiurkan dan optimistis !

>
> terima kasih pak...
>
> kalau boleh saya simpulkan.. ada 2 alasan utk invest/trading di
> offshore:
> - ngerti marketnya..
> - posisi IDR thd mata uang asing
> + (excessive liquidity ?)
>
> any NO to above lebih baik invest di BEJ aja.. :)
>
> apakah ada alasan lain yg bisa ditambahkan ?
>
>
> salam ngesoot..
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 , "budihadi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Sekedar sharing :
> > 1) Kalau mau reksadana lokal, kita bisa transaksi melalui bank,
> seperti SCB, Citibank, Bank Niaga, dll. atau langsung ke penerbit
> reksadana ybs (misalnya : Platinum, Trimegah, dll). Setahu saya
> Trimegah minimalnya cuma Rp. 250.000,-
> > 2) Kalau mau reksadana offshore, kita bisa juga transaksi via Bank
> luar negri seperti Citibank Singapore (IPB). Minimum transaksi
> USD10.000.
> > Kalau mau via bank asing yang ada dilokal juga bisa. Tapi minimum
> transaksinya bisa jauh lebih besar (+/- min. USD 50.000).
> > Komisi beli +/- 3%
> > Komisi Jual biasanya 0%
> > 3) Reksadana offshore bisa juga dibeli via internet. Salah satunya
> Fundsupermart di Singapore. Minimum transaksinya +/- USD 500 atau SGD
> 1.000,-
> > Komisi Beli 2 %
> > Komisi Jual 0%
> > 4) Kalau mau transaksi dibursa US, bisa juga via internet,
> misalnya : IB (Interactive Brokers). Disini, kita juga bisa beli ETF
> (semacam reksadana), IShare (index share), saham biasa, Option, dll.
> > Minimum opening account USD 5.000,-
> > Komisi Jual-Beli sangat murah sekali (min. USD1), dihitung
> berdasarkan jumlah saham yg dibeli bukan pada jumlah nilai
> transaksinya (beli/jual saham yg harga satuannya semakin mahal,
> persentasi komisinya akan semakin kecil)
> >
> > Jadi mau yang besar ada, yang kecil juga ada.
> > Tinggal dipilih... dipilih... dipilih.
> >
> > Salam & semoga berguna.
> > Budiadi
> >
> > ==
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: Eddy Tg
> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 
> > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:26 PM
> > Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Reksadanamenggiurkan dan
> optimistis !
> >
> >
> > Dear Ramos Simatupang :)
> >
> > Reksadana ada 2 produk yaitu onshore (Made In Indonesia) dan
> Offshore (LN) :
> >
> > Kalau anda punya doku fresh money US $100,000.- atau >>; saya
> sarankan masuk di Offshore : Pilih Firstate China Growth Fund,
> Performancenya sejak Januari 2007 s/d sekarang, Growthnya sudah
> lebih dari 120%.
> > Untuk difersifikasi boleh juga anda masuk ke UBS Greater China,
> growth sudah lebih dari 80%, sejak Januari 2007.
> > Sungguh menggiurkan dan perlu diketahui China terus berkembang,
> konon rakyatnya sampai supir truck ikut membeli saham (saham naik
> berarti reksadana ikut naik) !!! Apalagi Olympiade 2008 diambang
> pintu, ini akan dipertaruhkan pemerintah China demi Dunia, maka saham
> akan bullish terus...!!!
> >
> > Dan boleh juga anda pilih FSI Global Resources Fund serta Anda
> boleh juga masuk di : UBS Equity Sicav-Brazil B; mulai bullish sejak
> kasus subprime-mortgage, dalam tempoh seminggu ini sudah naik 10% dan
> tampaknya akan naik terus.Menggiurkan dan optimistis akan
> bullish...
> >
> >
> > Tapi kalau anggaran doku Rp 5 juta keatas, masuklah ke Onshore,
> saran saya
> > Pilih Fortis Equitas, SEjak Mei 2007 s/d saat ini Growthnya sudah
> lebih dari 40%
> > atau diversifikasi anda boleh pilih juga Shroder Dana Istimewa,
> Shroder Dana Prestasi yg Growthnya hampir sama dg Fortis Equitas.
> >
> > Tapi hati2 IHSG sudah mencapai 2,638.21 +46.73 1.80% 4:00
> PM
> > (11/10/07), pemecah rekord IHSG tertinggi dalam sejarah bursa
> efek Jakarta/Indonesia, dikuatirkan akan bearish atau koreksi
> dulu..., baru mulai bullish lagi, inilah saatnya dimulai
> perang lagi...!!!
> >
> > Salam Cuan :)))
> >
>
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ONE more chance

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Vincent Chase
mbah,kl DJ ijo ntar malem apa gak dibuat PT sama gambler yg hr ini pd belian?
   
  mungkin baiknya di day trade aja besok kalo naek, jgn nyimpen barang, 
mengingat pesan om DE kalo masi ada HF maturity bentar lagi? 

jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Elaine, apakah anda maksudkan HUGE gap UP or DOWN ?.

Sepertinya embah SALAH NANGKAP tulisan si Elaine (kentang):

> Please get up early. You will see a huge GAP.

Dia MAKSUDkan, besok BEJ IJO dan saham-saham OPEN diharga
tinggi (HUGE GAP). Karena saat ini index NASDAQ aja udah IJO
padahal futurenya TADI jelek banget...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Pedagang Kentang" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'll give you ONE more CHANCE to GET OUT, tomorrow.
> 
> That if I am in a good mood like LCY.
> 
> Please get up early. You will see a huge GAP.
> 
> This time a NUKE BOMB is about to come. Prepare yourself.
> 
> Don't be afraid with the bear. Be afraid with your EGO.
> 
> EL.
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SENIN, INVISIBLE HAND JAGA ANTM DI BURSA LAGI MERAH

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Saham Multikartu
Maybe YES Maybe NO..

- Original Message 
From: Widhi Indratmo Nugroho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 1:59:05 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SENIN, INVISIBLE HAND JAGA ANTM DI BURSA LAGI 
MERAH










  







Kemungkinan sih bisa aja. klo pake itungan kasar 
dgn CAPM sekitar 4500.

tapi ini cuman itungan pemula loh he...he... jangan 
diprotes yach

  

 

 

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  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
  

  Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 12:46 
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  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SENIN, 
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  Iya 
  nih cuman hi... hi . doank,  or will come true by tomorrow   


  - 
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From: Rei 

  
  

  Mr. Lee, you sound like Pontianak! 

  What do you  mean by hihihihii... .it (5000) will come true or not? 
  

Lee Cwan Yeuw <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com.sg> wrote:

  



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mencapai
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butuh waktu utk 
menikmati target 5000 ini.
bandar antm pakai sistem win win solution dgn 
investor, agar
antm masih terus diburu oleh investor. bandar tidak akan 

pernah membunuh investor.

> Klo TP 5000, laku nggak ya 

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: OOT mimpi

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Sharif Dayan
Salam Sejahtera...

Pada Selasa, 23 Oktober 2007, Mudy Situmorang menulis:

> dibelakangnya ada jsxtraders pake bambu runcing, Bung Dayan
> ikut lari bawa kelewang.

Ketika ada upacara kemiliteran yang akan dilanjutkan dengan parade, 
perhatikan barisan yang ada. Di belakang tiap satuan, terdapat seorang 
prajurit bersenjata pistol. Tugasnya adalah menembak prajurit yang lari 
dari barisan.

Demikian juga dalam pergerakan maju -yang pernah menonton "300", pasti 
paham- pasukan, selalu ada bintara yang mengekor di belakang pasukan, 
dengan tugas serupa itu.

Ketika terjun dalam pertempuran, pergerakan harus pasti, jangan ragu. 
Kalau pun tidak pasti, maka jangan kerahkan segenap kekuatan, sehingga 
ketika taktik harus diganti, misalnya mundur, maka tidak terjadi 
kekacauan dalam penarikan.

Contohnya saja pada Senin 22 Oktober 2007. Sejumlah kubu logistik tetap 
mempertahankan perimeternya, walau bombardemen lumayan tinggi, melebihi 
ukuran 4%. Satu satuan kecil digerakkan ke kubu elektronik. Sebelumnya 
kubu tersebut sudah ditempati satuan pandu, sehingga kedatangan satuan 
tambahan merupakan perkuatan.

Rekan prajurit di samping saya mempertanyakan penempatan pasukan itu. 
"Justru dalam keadaan kacau balau seperti inilah kita musti memilih 
kedudukan. Ketika suasana sudah tenang, kita sudah berada dalam keadaan 
unggul taktis". Dia sendiri -cring-cring...kedip satu mata ;-)- memilih 
untuk menunggu suasana lebih kacau... pada pagi Selasa 23 Oktober 2007.


> Indah Renata lagi masak
> di dapur umum, sama Maria Renata habis digodain Bung Dayan.

Selasa 23 Oktober 2007, saya santai sedikit...prajurit kan juga 
manusia... sambil bantu-bantu Indah dan Maria...pokok'e dengan Abang wis 
pasti aman laaa.haiya:-)~~ yang lain silakan lanjutkan 
bertempur, kalau tidak kelewang saya yang bicara...:-)


Sharif Dayan
di Palembang
sambilcukurandengankelewangsupayaganteng...;-)



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ONE more chance

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik Rei
Ah nggak koq...nggak musuhan...cuma iseng aja menanggapi postingan iseng juga...
  "Elaine" (koq kalian yakin sekali ini cewek ) kan berlaku layaknya penguasa 
bursa jadi ya pasti timbul berbagai macam reaksi, dari yg kagum sampai yg 
anggap dia cuma b/s belaka. Normal toh...
   
  DJ ijo...semoga nanti index ijo...pokoknya LT masih bullish...that's all that 
matters to me.
  Semoga semua anggota milis cuan! Amin!

pemainedan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Sudah, jgn bermusuhan terus dong (terutama pak Rei & pak James nih). 
Semua di sini 'kan berhak mengutarakan pendapat, gaya jutek sih tdk 
apa2, si Mbah juga gak keberatan koq. 

Asal jgn ngomong kasar spt "anjing", "bedebah", dll aja... hehehe...

Kalau dia mau buang portofolio & pak Rei/James mau collect... jadi 
klop 'kan.

Lagipula, walaupun gaya jutek, saya rasa niatnya baik koq. Kasih 
warning bom dan bom yg disebutnya benar2 ada. Pertama Little Boy 
2,02% Jumat, lalu Fat Man 4,30% hari ini. 

Apa bbrp hari lagi ada Tsar Bomba? Kalau kata pak James/Rei tidak, 
ya sudah... cuekin saja miss Elaine. Tp saya yakin banyak jg yg 
mengambil manfaat dr warning miss Elaine ini. 

Ini bukan belain miss Elaine nih. Cm ya, saya akui, saya tertarik 
juga dg model cw agresif spt miss Elaine ini... hehehe...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "James Arifin" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ini orang bullshit juga bilang mau cao dan nggak jadi investasi di
> bursa BEJ tapi tetap balik ... emang dimana juga ada gula ada 
semut,
> stress mesti cari barang murah sebanyak-banyaknya buat persiapan
> indeks ke 4500 (2009-2011) sesuai prediksi salah satu Master TA
> 
> Regards.
> 
> On 10/22/07, Pedagang Kentang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I'll give you ONE more CHANCE to GET OUT, tomorrow.
> >
> > That if I am in a good mood like LCY.
> >
> > Please get up early. You will see a huge GAP.
> >
> > This time a NUKE BOMB is about to come. Prepare yourself.
> >
> > Don't be afraid with the bear. Be afraid with your EGO.
> >
> > EL.
> >
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Bagemane ngadepin gorengan

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik saidkat

iye ane lupa bang dukoren, yang paling utame emang yang abang bilang bahwa
dagang gorengan mesti dijagain, dikipasin, dikebut2 biar kagak dilalerin

yang paling penting emang harus di jagain, wong dagang kok.

401 keripik biru oke, gorengan oke, asal likuid.
  - Original Message - 
  From: dukoren kalogi 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 8:26 AM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Bagemane ngadepin gorengan



  untuk ngetes gorengan, ini barangkali lho (karena segala bentuk strategi bisa 
dipake sang kaisar)
  di short dikit langsung ada yang marah  di naikin satu-dua tingkat 
hahahaha...mungkin kaisarnya tipe yg emosional kali
  jadi perlu debug (istilah di programning kalo bikin software) atao perlu 
insturment tester kalo di dunia elektronika...
  dan kalo mau iseng2 maen, supaya gak mati uang percuma, maen gorengan waktu 
mulai aktif dan 
  HARUS (SEBAIKNYA)  DI DEPAN LAYAR SOFTWARE ONLINE, SUPAYA GAK 

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GORENG, PISANG GORENGAN BAHKAN AYAN GORENG KALO KEBANYAKAN DAN KELAMAAN 
TENGGOROKAN JADI MERADANG... 

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  Pada tanggal 23/10/07, saidkat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis: 

Sekedar tips dari ane, untuk nyikapin gorengan.

1. kalau belanja gorengan mesti tahu dulu risikonye, n jangan ikut2 orang 
atau rekomend secara membuta.

2. gorengan baru laku, kalau bc lagi konsolidasi

3. gorengan sering tahan terhadap kejatuhan index, tapi kalau jatuhnya 500 
poin ya gorengan nggak tahan juga.

4. kalau cari gorengan, lihat yang masih likuid, dan plajari pola 
gorengnya, ada goreng garing, ada goreng setengah mateng, ada yang di goreng 
pakai minyak, ada yang digoreng pake pasir. 

5. kalau lagi kejedot jangan di maki2, tapi  dipuji2 aja, kayak kite miara 
pet, di elus2, di sayang2, lama2 jinak juga.
ibarat miara macan kan, kalau di sayang2 n dirawat lame2 jinak juga, tapi 
kalau ud gede, baekan si macan sumbangin ke sirkus aja, ongkos makannya berats. 
he.eheh.ehe

itu hal2 di atas yang selame ini aye pake buat ngadepin gorengans, kalau 
ade tambahan silahken ditambahin.

gorengan minggu ini adalah:
watch CNKO, harga DH 117 untuk bulan ini, akumulasi DH sudah 2,9 jt lot, 
yang nyamar pakai tiker f di dp ud beli2 juga, yang nyamar tiker F total sude 
belanja lagi senilai 32 m. chartnya secare ta lagi ok, modelnya akhir bulan, 
awal bulan ada loncat kodoknye, kalau polanya pakai pola semester ini, bakal 
ada loncat kodok ke kepala 13x akhir bulan ini, dan di awal bulan kepala 14x 
mulai di colek, 
kalau ini bener, berarti kepala 20x bakal cepet datengnye, dan prediksi ane 
si clane kolor ini bakal bikin CA deh, kalau sampe kepala 20x.

yang suka naekin adrenalin seperti biasa lihat tempe, kejatuhan kemarin 
adalah bukan polanya, yang mestinya kalau di atas lupa turun minimal di atas 5 
hari bursa,
kalau hari ini ke bawah lagi, ada baek di tunggu aja deh, masih banyak kok 
gorengan lain yang bisa naekin adrenalin.

Ingat, kalau gorengan harus gorengan yang likuid, watcht list2 aja sekarang 
kasih daptar2 gorengan yang likuid kok, baik dari suheng hok1, maupun 
watchlistnye kang widhie, dalem bentuk penny stock. 

jadi minggu ini bunyinya kayak di tena bang
dipilih, dipilih, dipilih, dipilih, 
keripik biru, atau gorengan setali tigak duit.
tapi opini ane minggu ini kite keripik biru dulu aja deh.

401 mantan fans cnko





   

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Bagemane ngadepin gorengan

2007-10-22 Terurut Topik dukoren kalogi
untuk ngetes gorengan, ini barangkali lho (karena segala bentuk strategi
bisa dipake sang kaisar)
di short dikit langsung ada yang marah  di naikin satu-dua tingkat
hahahaha...mungkin kaisarnya tipe yg emosional kali
jadi perlu debug (istilah di programning kalo bikin software) atao perlu
insturment tester kalo di dunia elektronika...
dan kalo mau iseng2 maen, supaya gak mati uang percuma, maen gorengan waktu
mulai aktif dan

*HARUS (SEBAIKNYA)  DI DEPAN LAYAR SOFTWARE ONLINE, SUPAYA GAK

KE COLONGAN



MAEN GORENGAN MAH IBARAT MAKAN GORENGAN , APA PUN GORENGAN ITU ENTAH TEMPE
GORENG, PISANG GORENGAN BAHKAN AYAN GORENG KALO KEBANYAKAN DAN KELAMAAN
TENGGOROKAN JADI MERADANG...

KAN GMPNG AJAA HEHEHEHEHEHEHHEHEHEHE


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Pada tanggal 23/10/07, saidkat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
>
>Sekedar tips dari ane, untuk nyikapin gorengan.
>
> 1. kalau belanja gorengan mesti tahu dulu risikonye, n jangan ikut2 orang
> atau rekomend secara membuta.
>
> 2. gorengan baru laku, kalau bc lagi konsolidasi
>
> 3. gorengan sering tahan terhadap kejatuhan index, tapi kalau jatuhnya 500
> poin ya gorengan nggak tahan juga.
>
> 4. kalau cari gorengan, lihat yang masih likuid, dan plajari pola
> gorengnya, ada goreng garing, ada goreng setengah mateng, ada yang di goreng
> pakai minyak, ada yang digoreng pake pasir.
>
> 5. kalau lagi kejedot jangan di maki2, tapi  dipuji2 aja, kayak kite miara
> pet, di elus2, di sayang2, lama2 jinak juga.
> ibarat miara macan kan, kalau di sayang2 n dirawat lame2 jinak juga, tapi
> kalau ud gede, baekan si macan sumbangin ke sirkus aja, ongkos makannya
> berats. he.eheh.ehe
>
> itu hal2 di atas yang selame ini aye pake buat ngadepin gorengans, kalau
> ade tambahan silahken ditambahin.
>
> gorengan minggu ini adalah:
> watch CNKO, harga DH 117 untuk bulan ini, akumulasi DH sudah 2,9 jt lot,
> yang nyamar pakai tiker f di dp ud beli2 juga, yang nyamar tiker F total
> sude belanja lagi senilai 32 m. chartnya secare ta lagi ok, modelnya akhir
> bulan, awal bulan ada loncat kodoknye, kalau polanya pakai pola semester
> ini, bakal ada loncat kodok ke kepala 13x akhir bulan ini, dan di awal bulan
> kepala 14x mulai di colek,
> kalau ini bener, berarti kepala 20x bakal cepet datengnye, dan prediksi
> ane si clane kolor ini bakal bikin CA deh, kalau sampe kepala 20x.
>
> yang suka naekin adrenalin seperti biasa lihat tempe, kejatuhan kemarin
> adalah bukan polanya, yang mestinya kalau di atas lupa turun minimal di atas
> 5 hari bursa,
> kalau hari ini ke bawah lagi, ada baek di tunggu aja deh, masih banyak kok
> gorengan lain yang bisa naekin adrenalin.
>
> Ingat, kalau gorengan harus gorengan yang likuid, watcht list2 aja
> sekarang kasih daptar2 gorengan yang likuid kok, baik dari suheng hok1,
> maupun watchlistnye kang widhie, dalem bentuk penny stock.
>
> jadi minggu ini bunyinya kayak di tena bang
> dipilih, dipilih, dipilih, dipilih,
> keripik biru, atau gorengan setali tigak duit.
> tapi opini ane minggu ini kite keripik biru dulu aja deh.
>
> 401 mantan fans cnko
>
> 
>


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