Re: Meleset lagi [obrolan-bandar] DJIA Update : Berpeluang besar untuk reversal

[Elaine Sui]

*Foto Elaine taking shower saja?

Elaine**
*
2008/7/12 JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>  Ya saya masih ingat diskusi kita wkt itu…., hmmm.., jujur ngomong saya
> sampai saat ini ngga bisa menangkap dengan JELAS pola tsb.., hanya
> samar-samar saja.., mungkin karena mata saya kurang begitu terlatih…, mesti
> minta bantuan om Boyz nih….., anyway, mdh2an ngga valid lah…kalau valid
> masih -1100 lagi dong.. OMG!! Alisnya Elaine bisa botak setengah dong…..
> hehe
>
>
>
> *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Andi Wahyudi
> *Sent:* 12 Juli 2008 11:49
>
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Meleset lagi [obrolan-bandar] DJIA Update : Berpeluang
> besar untuk reversal
>
>
>
> Wktu DoJi masih 12200an, saya udah kasih opini kl DoJi secara TA akan
> meluncur ke 10 rebu karena membentuk HnS..Mungkin Pak Tasrul dan Pak
> JSXTrader masih inget diskusi kita waktu itu
>
> --- On *Sat, 12/7/08, andy lou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
> From: andy lou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Meleset lagi [obrolan-bandar] DJIA Update : Berpeluang besar
> untuk reversal
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, 12 July, 2008, 11:34 AM
>
> Apa mungkin pak???sedangkan minggu depan ada earningnya ML n Citigroup...
> kayaknya bisa ke 10500 dec
>
> --- On *Fri, 7/11/08, rocknrollmarket@ yahoo.co. id  yahoo.co. id>* wrote:
>
> From: rocknrollmarket@ yahoo.co. id 
> Subject: Re: Meleset lagi [obrolan-bandar] DJIA Update : Berpeluang besar
> untuk reversal
> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 1:44 PM
>
>
> Yah nasih itu mah...!!!market turun
>
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> *From*: "Petualang Saham" 
> *Date*: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:35:00 -
> *To*: 
> *Subject*: Re: Meleset lagi [obrolan-bandar] DJIA Update : Berpeluang
> besar untuk reversal
>
> Smua analisa khan HANYA tebak-tebakan. Yang tahu kemana arah MARKET
> khan cuma YMK. TA hanya alat bantu saja, ya klo salah harap dimaklumi.
> MARKET maw naek kek, maw turun kek, maw sideways kek.
> Yang penting CUAN, he3x
>
> SB
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com ,
> "Ricky Wakiman"
>  wrote:
> >
> > Sorry, ya. Ini sudah kesekian kalinya bilang ada indikasi kuat untuk
> DJIA reversal. Hari ini nyungsep lagi. Pake software apaan sih? Kok
> meleset mulu prediksinya. Hik, hik.
> >
> > RW
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> > - Original Message -
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> > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 1:41 PM
> > Subject: [!! SPAM] [obrolan-bandar] DJIA Update : Berpeluang besar
> untuk reversal
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> >
> > Dari hasil optimasi MACD terlihat adanya indikasi kuat untuk DJIA
> reversal dengan semakin mengecilnya histogram.
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[obrolan-bandar] Elaine mau hijau lagi TODAY.

[Elaine Sui]

*Death to short sellers!!..

Elaine*

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Elaine mau hijau lagi TODAY.

[Elaine Sui]

*Enak saja mau cepat kaya.. :P

Elaine**
*
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Vincent Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>  YOU BUAT ASII AR DULU di 25000 DONG, UDAH FULL ASII NIH
>
> *Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
>  *Death to short sellers!!..
>
> Elaine*
>
>
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Elaine mau hijau lagi TODAY.

[Elaine Sui]

*Besok saja kalau begitu :P

Elaine**
*
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Well, just like last time, you wont get it baby!
>
>
>
>  -Original Message-
> *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Elaine Sui
> *Sent:* Monday, July 14, 2008 3:18 PM
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [obrolan-bandar] Elaine mau hijau lagi TODAY.
>
>  *Death to short sellers!!..
>
> Elaine*
>
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG 2216

[Elaine Sui]

*Me too. Anyway, Elaine baru kena marah Investor. I'm sooo dead. :( YTD gain
190% tinggal 54%. JANGAN TERTAWA!! Elaine sedang kesal...

Elaine**
*
2008/7/15 oentoeng_qq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Prasetyo, Hani"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Pak Oen...
> >
> > udah kepalang basah... nyemplung sekalian
> >
> > Hidup diver...
> >
>
> Saya tetap nggak akan nampung commodities...
>
> Good Luck!
>
>
> 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG 2216

[Elaine Sui]

*Right. I write a typo, should be 154%.

Elaine**
*
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Lindt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Makanya el. Ga ada org yg tau market. Bener kan ?
>
> Konsorsium? Big money ? Bandar ? Go to hell. Hehehehehe Power of
> market.
>
> Makanya jangan dengerin orang. Pantau aja sendiri.
>
>
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> *From*: "Elaine Sui" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *Date*: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:54:15 +0700
> *To*: 
> *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG 2216
>
> *Me too. Anyway, Elaine baru kena marah Investor. I'm sooo dead. :( YTD
> gain 190% tinggal 54%. JANGAN TERTAWA!! Elaine sedang kesal...
>
> Elaine**
> *
> 2008/7/15 oentoeng_qq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Prasetyo, Hani"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Pak Oen...
>> >
>> > udah kepalang basah... nyemplung sekalian
>> >
>> > Hidup diver...
>> >
>>
>> Saya tetap nggak akan nampung commodities...
>>
>> Good Luck!
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> + +
>> + + + + +
>> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
>> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
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>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG 2216

[Elaine Sui]

*Cmon Vince, I can go both ways, long and short.

Elaine**
*
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Vincent Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>  ytd 190% yeaaa rite el i believe you 110% unless you r using margin and
> playing in bumi only
>
>
>
> *Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
>  *Right. I write a typo, should be 154%.
>
> Elaine**
> *
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Lindt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>  Makanya el. Ga ada org yg tau market. Bener kan ?
>>
>> Konsorsium? Big money ? Bandar ? Go to hell. Hehehehehe Power of
>> market.
>>
>> Makanya jangan dengerin orang. Pantau aja sendiri.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my BlackBerry(R)
>> powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
>> --
>> *From*: "Elaine Sui" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> *Date*: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:54:15 +0700
>> *To*: 
>> *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG 2216
>>  *Me too. Anyway, Elaine baru kena marah Investor. I'm sooo dead. :( YTD
>> gain 190% tinggal 54%. JANGAN TERTAWA!! Elaine sedang kesal...
>>
>> Elaine**
>> *
>> 2008/7/15 oentoeng_qq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>>> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Prasetyo, Hani"
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Pak Oen...
>>> >
>>> > udah kepalang basah... nyemplung sekalian
>>> >
>>> > Hidup diver...
>>> >
>>>
>>> Saya tetap nggak akan nampung commodities...
>>>
>>> Good Luck!
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> + +
>>> + + + + +
>>> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
>>> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
>>> + + + + +
>>> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG 2216

[Elaine Sui]

*That's correct. Excludes fx trading etc.

Elaine**
*
2008/7/15 Andi Wahyudi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>  BUkannya kemarin awal Mei masih 25% YtD EL?
>
> --- On *Tue, 15/7/08, Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>*wrote:
>
> From: Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG 2216
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, 15 July, 2008, 3:20 PM
>
>  *Right. I write a typo, should be 154%.
>
> Elaine**
> *
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Lindt  PROTECTED]>>
> wrote:
>
>>  Makanya el. Ga ada org yg tau market. Bener kan ?
>>
>> Konsorsium? Big money ? Bandar ? Go to hell. Hehehehehe.. .. Power of
>> market.
>>
>> Makanya jangan dengerin orang. Pantau aja sendiri.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my BlackBerry(R)
>> powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
>>
>> --
>> *From*: "Elaine Sui" 
>> >
>> *Date*: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:54:15 +0700
>> *To*: >
>> *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG 2216
>>
>> *Me too. Anyway, Elaine baru kena marah Investor. I'm sooo dead. :( YTD
>> gain 190% tinggal 54%. JANGAN TERTAWA!! Elaine sedang kesal...
>>
>> Elaine**
>> *
>> 2008/7/15 oentoeng_qq >:
>>
>>> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com ,
>>> "Prasetyo, Hani"
>>>  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Pak Oen...
>>> >
>>> > udah kepalang basah... nyemplung sekalian
>>> >
>>> > Hidup diver...
>>> >
>>>
>>> Saya tetap nggak akan nampung commodities. ..
>>>
>>> Good Luck!
>>>
>>>
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Re: To Mas Tasrul: Sorry ya RE: [obrolan-bandar] DJIA : Bagi yang masih penasaran

[Elaine Sui]

*Elaine benar salah ribut terus... ha ha ha...

Elaine**
*
2008/7/16 w | i | d | h | i | e <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>  Tepatnya, kalau salah prediksi orang pada ribut, kalau benar analisnya
> yang ribut ( tuh kan apa aku bilang ) hihihi
>
> Sorry, no offense ya...
>
>
>
>
>>
>>  *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Tasrul Tanar
>> *Sent:* 12 Juli 2008 19:24
>> *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
>> obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>> *Subject:* [obrolan-bandar] DJIA : Bagi yang masih penasaran
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Analis bisa saja meleset, biasalah ..kalo meleset aja pada ribut , kalo
>> benar diem...
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Berharap DOW -200 malam ini

[Elaine Sui]

*It's not a dream. It's a strategy. For mid/long term I have good ppl to
back me up. For short term prediction I'm such a doofus.. :) Yeah I admit
that. Anyway, daily price movement is not really my concern. Finally, I
manage to convince my investors to understand the strategy. Dulu Elaine
bilang bear juga tidak ada yang percaya waktu 2800, malah hope to 3000.
Elaine tidak heran kalau sekarang ditertawakan when I said bull, majority
malah ingin 2000, even 1800?!

fyi, Elaine tidak expert di fx trading, itu ada orang lain yang take care
and they're good. Sekali lagi Elaine bilang we work as a team. Elaine tahu
banyak tidak percaya. Elaine kan tidak bisa predict future, tetapi Elaine
bisa calculate market expectation. US bank came with the unexpectedly good
results. Inflation rate (CPI) soars. Oil tumble. These things are as
expected.

Elaine**
*

2008/7/16 Hendra Santosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Besok diketawain Bu Elaine loh :p
>
> Selamat Bu Elaine mimpinya +1000 sudah bisa dimulai yay minggu ini. Bu
> Elaine emang hebat. Besok gantian marahin investornya ya.
>
> *nubie*
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[obrolan-bandar] Marketwise Technical (Financial)

[Elaine Sui]

*Dear Embah, Kindly enlighten us with your Marketwise Technical for
Financial Sector, Elaine mau cari point HHEL ada dimana.

Thanks :)

Elaine*

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Next Movement: Property & Financials

[Elaine Sui]

*I've sent my 2H08 strategy days ago. Check your archive. I don't know where
it will move today, but I'll stick to my plan. IDX is so unevenly
overweighted with energy/plantation stocks, so things may get ugly for the
index, but we both know each industry has its own time. Every strategy is
analyzed carefully, not the "get rich quick" type and the like.

Belum ada downgrade ya...hmm...

Elaine**
*
2008/7/17 Bettina Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>  Spooky... What do you think of the market EL? If Agriculture & energy
> collapse then what is the prospective sector in your opinion. Then where do
> you think the market will move today?
>
>
> On 7/17/08, Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> 2008/7/17 Irawan Sudarman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>>>  CTRP bgmn ibu ?
>>>
>>> 2008/7/17 Bettina Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>
>>>Laa.. Laa.. Telco's competition become stiff ameer, in addition to
>>>> negative government regulation to telco sector.. I prefer BBRI, BBCA and
>>>> Panin Group for Financials and CTRA, ELTY and TOTL for properties..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/17/08, sultan qatar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   Don't forget ISAT and the gank, TLKM + BTEL
>>>>>
>>>>> Pada tanggal 17/07/08, Bettina Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Selamat berbahagia.. Dow naik tajam tadi malam, tapi masih riskan
>>>>>> karena banyak yang berpendapat kenaikan Dow tadi malam hanya sementara. 
>>>>>> Jadi
>>>>>> coba untuk collect sedikit2 dan disiplin cut loss. Menurut saya sektor 
>>>>>> yang
>>>>>> agak aman dan dipakai untuk menaikkan indeks dalam waktu dekat adalah
>>>>>> Property & Financials karena kedua sektor ini agak bertahan sewaktu
>>>>>> kejatuhan kemarin. Untuk mining, walaupun dua hari terakhir chartnya agak
>>>>>> bagus namun hanya ditopang sentimen IPO ADRO, sedangkan fundamental untuk
>>>>>> mining masih kurang bagus karena kejatuhan harga mining commodities.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have fun, safety first!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] vincent mau ijo, el mau ijo apa merah sekarang?hehehehe

[Elaine Sui]

*Elaine mau hijau terus. Merah itu kerja Tbummers.. ^_^ LO bercanda ya..

Elaine*

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Vincent Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Next Movement: Property & Financials

[Elaine Sui]

*Institutional Investor can kiss their ass goodbye now. Tetapi kalau hold
like 5 years ENERGY, MINING and AGRICULTURE are still very good, and will
beat other sectors in the long run. Statistically proven.

So take it easy, longtermers.

Elaine**
*
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Prasetyo, Hani <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
> BIG FMs get stuck with commodities in their portfolios…….. no wonder no
> downgrade yet…
>
> Lets see the show will goes… I love this game…. yupppy
>  --
>
> *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Elaine Sui
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:42 AM
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] Next Movement: Property & Financials
>
>
>
> *I've sent my 2H08 strategy days ago. Check your archive. I don't know
> where it will move today, but I'll stick to my plan. IDX is so unevenly
> overweighted with energy/plantation stocks, so things may get ugly for the
> index, but we both know each industry has its own time. Every strategy is
> analyzed carefully, not the "get rich quick" type and the like.
>
>
> Belum ada downgrade ya...hmm...
>
> Elaine
> *
>
> 2008/7/17 Bettina Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Spooky... What do you think of the market EL? If Agriculture & energy
> collapse then what is the prospective sector in your opinion. Then where do
> you think the market will move today?
>
>
>
> On 7/17/08, *Elaine Sui* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> 2008/7/17 Irawan Sudarman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> CTRP bgmn ibu ?
>
> 2008/7/17 Bettina Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>
>
> Laa.. Laa.. Telco's competition become stiff ameer, in addition to negative
> government regulation to telco sector.. I prefer BBRI, BBCA and Panin Group
> for Financials and CTRA, ELTY and TOTL for properties..
>
>
>
> On 7/17/08, *sultan qatar* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Don't forget ISAT and the gank, TLKM + BTEL
>
> Pada tanggal 17/07/08, *Bettina Tan* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
>
> Selamat berbahagia.. Dow naik tajam tadi malam, tapi masih riskan karena
> banyak yang berpendapat kenaikan Dow tadi malam hanya sementara. Jadi coba
> untuk collect sedikit2 dan disiplin cut loss. Menurut saya sektor yang agak
> aman dan dipakai untuk menaikkan indeks dalam waktu dekat adalah Property &
> Financials karena kedua sektor ini agak bertahan sewaktu kejatuhan kemarin.
> Untuk mining, walaupun dua hari terakhir chartnya agak bagus namun hanya
> ditopang sentimen IPO ADRO, sedangkan fundamental untuk mining masih kurang
> bagus karena kejatuhan harga mining commodities.
>
>
>
> Have fun, safety first!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Next Movement: Property & Financials

[Elaine Sui]

*omg capai sekali Elaine, nanti disangka provocator.. terserah Daniel saja.
Elaine is quite happy with my new portfolio composition.

Elaine**
*
2008/7/17 Daniel Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>  Question buat Ms. Elaine,
>
>1. is Agri n Energy really RIP as in long term sidways??
>2. so sector switching for u?
>
>
>
> thx Ms. Elaine
>
> Cheers
>
> DW
>
>
>  --
>
> *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Elaine Sui
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:13 AM
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] Next Movement: Property & Financials
>
>
>
>
>
> 2008/7/17 Irawan Sudarman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> CTRP bgmn ibu ?
>
> 2008/7/17 Bettina Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>
>
> Laa.. Laa.. Telco's competition become stiff ameer, in addition to negative
> government regulation to telco sector.. I prefer BBRI, BBCA and Panin Group
> for Financials and CTRA, ELTY and TOTL for properties..
>
>
>
> On 7/17/08, *sultan qatar* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Don't forget ISAT and the gank, TLKM + BTEL
>
> Pada tanggal 17/07/08, *Bettina Tan* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
>
> Selamat berbahagia.. Dow naik tajam tadi malam, tapi masih riskan karena
> banyak yang berpendapat kenaikan Dow tadi malam hanya sementara. Jadi coba
> untuk collect sedikit2 dan disiplin cut loss. Menurut saya sektor yang agak
> aman dan dipakai untuk menaikkan indeks dalam waktu dekat adalah Property &
> Financials karena kedua sektor ini agak bertahan sewaktu kejatuhan kemarin.
> Untuk mining, walaupun dua hari terakhir chartnya agak bagus namun hanya
> ditopang sentimen IPO ADRO, sedangkan fundamental untuk mining masih kurang
> bagus karena kejatuhan harga mining commodities.
>
>
>
> Have fun, safety first!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Lowest IHSG <2000?

[Elaine Sui]

*Yes, I was. I kinda understate the impact of commodity meltdown to IDX.
It's probably way bigger than I previously thought. ^_^' me? I no longer
have 'em. Cpo? No. Screw them all. Give me 50% discount on 'em or else! lol

Elaine
**
*2008/7/17 White Beauty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>  BELUM lowestnya nih?
>
> Kalo gitu Elaine salah donk soal lowest indeks kita?
>
>
>
> --- On *Thu, 7/17/08, oentoeng_qq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
> From: oentoeng_qq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: DJIA : Bagi yang masih penasaran
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 8:47 AM
>
>  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com,
> "oentoeng_qq"
>  wrote:
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com,
> "oentoeng_qq"
> 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Sebaliknya buat saham2 PENOPANG indeks selama ini, yaitu mining,
> > cpo,
> > > energi dst. acara "ancur2an" still ON PROGRESS.
> > >
> >
> > Sektor di atas yg belum mendapat GILIRAN sabar aja, pasti dikasih!?
> > Biar nggak rebutan, lebih ANTRI yang baik...
> >
>
> fyi.. walaupun hari ini sudah BERDARAH-DARAH tapi LOWESTnya utk
> tahun ini BELON KELIATAN...
>
> Always SAFE TRADING...
>
> > > Kalau sektor lain ada yg masih terseret juga LUMRAH, siapa tahu
> ADA
> > > yg sudah "nggak kuat" main di bursa.
> > > Betoel...?
> > >
> > >
> > > Good Luck!
> > >
> >
>
>
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Lowest IHSG <2000?

[Elaine Sui]

*BOOM lol

Elaine**
*
2008/7/18 Slasher McGorok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>  pret !
>
>
>
> --
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:06:09 +0700
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Lowest IHSG <2000?
>
>   *Yes, I was. I kinda understate the impact of commodity meltdown to IDX.
> It's probably way bigger than I previously thought. ^_^' me? I no longer
> have 'em. Cpo? No. Screw them all. Give me 50% discount on 'em or else! lol
>
> Elaine
> **
> * 2008/7/17 White Beauty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>BELUM lowestnya nih?
> Kalo gitu Elaine salah donk soal lowest indeks kita?
>
>
> --- On *Thu, 7/17/08, oentoeng_qq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
> From: oentoeng_qq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: DJIA : Bagi yang masih penasaran
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 8:47 AM
>
>  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com ,
> "oentoeng_qq"
>  wrote:
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com ,
> "oentoeng_qq"
> 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Sebaliknya buat saham2 PENOPANG indeks selama ini, yaitu mining,
> > cpo,
> > > energi dst. acara "ancur2an" still ON PROGRESS.
> > >
> >
> > Sektor di atas yg belum mendapat GILIRAN sabar aja, pasti dikasih!?
> > Biar nggak rebutan, lebih ANTRI yang baik...
> >
>
> fyi.. walaupun hari ini sudah BERDARAH-DARAH tapi LOWESTnya utk
> tahun ini BELON KELIATAN...
>
> Always SAFE TRADING...
>
> > > Kalau sektor lain ada yg masih terseret juga LUMRAH, siapa tahu
> ADA
> > > yg sudah "nggak kuat" main di bursa.
> > > Betoel...?
> > >
> > >
> > > Good Luck!
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Enrich your blog with Windows Live Writer. Windows Live 
> Writer
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Black Friday

[Elaine Sui]

*Semua saja.. ^_^ terus switch ke Finance sama Elaine.


Elaine**
*
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:02 AM, hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> BALONKU ADA LIMA
> RUPA - RUPA JENISNYA
> COAL, CPO, METAL, OIL
>
> MELETUS BALON COAL..
> DAR
>
> INDEXKU AMAT KACAU
> BALONKU TINGGAL 4
> KUBINGUNG MANA YANG HARUS CL
>
>
> 
>
> + +
> + + + + +
> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> + + + + +
> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Lowest IHSG <2000?

[Elaine Sui]

*Biar loss saja semua. Elaine sudah kasih 2H08 investment overview ke OB,
bisa pikir sendiri. Elaine kasih gambar tombstone sudah. Elaine tunggu
downgrade analyst, malah upgrade. So frickin dumb. Kalau tidak mengerti juga
itu bukan salah Elaine. Malas kalau warning nuke bla bla, percuma retail di
kasih tahu keras kepala, goblok semua. Malah tanya target lowest IDX, I
think they MISS THE POINT. (atau Elaine salah bicara :)

Mungkin cuma 20% dari retail yang survive, or less. Tetapi institutional
investor lebih goblok lllooolll apalagi fund manager noob.

Sorry for the harsh words, but just look at your portfolio, if it's bleeding
to death then what I'm saying here is right. But if it's green the
CONGRATULATIONS!!!

Elaine**
*
2008/7/18 oentoeng_qq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Elaine Sui"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > *BOOM lol
> >
> > Elaine**
> > *
>
> Elaine kamu sekarang ini NAKAL SEKALI!
> Kenapa kejadian seperti ini, dimana para trader dan retail DIGEBUKIN
> nggak di warning seperti DULU???
> Kasih WORO2 kayak mo diNUKE kek, FAT BOY dst ato apalah...
>
> Please...
> Kembalilah ke Elaine yg dulu, miss YOU so much...
> Mana EXPRESIMU???
>
> Oentoeng
>
> Your Friend with same destination...
>
>
> 
>
> + +
> + + + + +
> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> + + + + +
> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

[obrolan-bandar] August 1998, Reuters

[Elaine Sui]

*This is what the news looks like ten years ago. Russia (a super power
country, at that time) defaulted its long term debt, which caused fear
across the world. Now US is facing the same problem.

Oh, mau gigit Astra Agro Embah sayang? Jangan menyesal ya. --^^_^^--

Elaine**
*
Friday, August 28, 6:35 am Eastern Time

FOCUS-Indonesia shares dive, more pain seen ahead
By Andrew Marshall

JAKARTA, Aug 28 (Reuters) - Jakarta's main share index dived more
than four percent on Friday, crashing through support at 350 points
as markets tumbled across the globe, and dealers said further losses
next week could pull it below the 330 level.

The Jakarta composite share index dropped 15.92 points, or 4.5 percent,
to 339.02, its lowest close since January 1993. The blue-chip LQ-45
index sank 5.6 percent to 71.98 points.

``The market has taken a battering and it is out of our hands, it's
not because of anything that's happening in Jakarta,'' said Andre Cita,
associate director at Jakarta's Bahana Securities.

``This is a regional shakedown because of what is happening in Russia.
Everyone else is tumbling, so we are too.''

Dealers said financial turmoil in Russia was battering markets around
the world. The Dow slumped 4.19 percent to 8,166 points, its lowest
level since February, and Japanese shares ended at a 12-year low.

But some dealers said domestic factors were also at work in undermining
the Jakarta index. The half-year results season is under way, with
several firms reporting heavy losses after more than a year of economic
crisis in Indonesia.

``Markets across the region have been hit by renewed fears of a global
economic downturn unleashed by Russia's meltdown. Our own earnings are
not giving any cause for confidence either,'' one dealer said.

Indonesia's rupiah escaped the carnage in equity markets, however,
breaking through the key 11,000 to the dollar level.

But despite the currency's gains, dealers said shares were likely to
fall further next week.

``It looks like the U.S. market is going to get another hit, and if
that happens it will make the markets here pretty nervous,'' Cita said.

Arie Supangat, a dealer with Tifa Securities, said that after support
at 350 points was broken, the next support level was at 330 points.

Some analysts said Jakarta could be cushioned to some extent by the
fact that it has already fallen so far over the past year. The market
hit a record high of 742.95 points on July 9 last year.

``This market was already so depressed that maybe it will at some
point decouple from events in the United States, because they have
already overshot,'' Cita said. ``Jakarta is so incredibly low at this
point that it could decouple.''

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Buku Baru Tentang Saham

[Elaine Sui]

*OENTOENG: Kami sudah TAHU agenda buku ini.

JAMES: Emang belum tahu kalau buku ini cuma OMDO doang.

HENDRIK: Download buku di http://dolgado.blogspot.com/

DEAN: Anak saya belum suruh baca.

TBUMI: Collect buku ini karena buku ini akan segera MEROKET (lol wtf?!)

REI: Setuju pak (lllooo wttt?!?!!?!?!?)

JACK COWOK: EAT THIS BOOK!!


Happy weekend all. ^_^

Elaine*

2008/7/18 Hendrik Limbono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>  misal aja, pak greg kasi cmment dari para anggota OB untuk bukunya.. saya
> rasa pasti kaku keras, minimal 20% dari anggota OB beli deh = 20% dari 7500
> = 1500 buku udah pasti laku.. karen itu juga salah satu strategi marketing
> yang amat baik. lagipula nama2 di OB kayak Embah, Kang Ocoy, EL, Boys,
> Jsxtrader pastilah membawa aura lbih kepada buku pak greg daripada
> komentator yang pak greg pakai sekarang
>
>
>
> nambahin lagi ah...
>
> Pemain Besar : *You think, you smarter than me if you can make a book..You
> feel big Huh*
>
> With Love
>
> - Original Message 
> From: boyz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 7:18:18 PM
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Buku Baru Tentang Saham
>
>  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com,
> "hendrik_lwww" 
> wrote:
> >
> > MUNGKIN kalau angota OB yang kasi Comment :
> >
> > EL : *LOL greg... you think dengan beli bukumu bisa mengalahkan my
> > robot trading... i don't think so..
> >
> > Boys : EL sayang... ngga boleh gitu sama pak greg kasian kalau
> > bukunya ngga laku..
> >
> > Sbudianay : Hoki te it kalau laku..
> >
> > Embah : Yah kita lihat aja capital inflow/outflow penjualan bukunya..
> > kalau laku berarti bisa dijadikan ALAT BANDAR untuk memainkan BEI.
> >
> > DE : bagaimana kalau judulnya "mencuri uang Bandar di keramaian BEI"
> >
> > met weekend semuanya...
> >
>
> Hehehe...
> mumpung weekend, tambahin ahhh...
>
> Linda Suciaty:
> *tuing*
> rasanya kalo dibaca dengan cepat... jelas sekali Pak Greg nulisnya..
> kalo dikaji secara ilmu komunikasi.. kok rasanya komunikasi dalam buku
> ini lumayan EFEKTIF yah.
> mwuahuahuahauhauhau ahuhaua.. ..
>
>
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Next Movement: Property & Financial

[Elaine Sui]

*Elaine orang gila. Goblok. Clown. Cowok. Kumis. Sotoy (?) Apa lagi boyz?
Tidak bilang bangsat sekalian? Semua orang di OB lebih banyak ingin hijau,
kalau market merah then is it my fault? Elaine switching ke Financial is
that a problem to you? Kalau tidak setuju dengan posting Elaine, you can
write a counter-analysis, or whatever, but please don't do a personal
attack.

Elaine juga suka flaming di OB, tetapi tidak personal. Elaine juga tidak
paksa bilang selalu benar, I do make mistakes sometimes. Omg.. :( Dulu embah
bilang kalau ada personal attack bisa di banned. tidak consistent.. :(

Elaine**
*
2008/7/18 Cynthia Lavenia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>  maksud boys IEG (Indikator Elaine Goblok)
>
> On 7/18/08, boyz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
>> Andi Wahyudi
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Yang, kmrn bilangnya mo ijo..berarti minggu ini Yayang kalah dong sama
>> gank-nya Bozz
>> >
>> > BTW, ntar malem datenya tetep jadi kan though IDX berdarah-darah
>> >
>> > http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/message/94270
>> >
>> > Ayam minggir dulu aaahh
>> >
>>
>> Kalo kemarin-kemarin ada indikator yg lumayan akurat...
>> yaitu IEG alias Indikator Etrading Goblok
>>
>> Sekarang ada IEG lain, and lumayan akurat pula...
>> cuma cara baca-nya dibalik alias contrary,
>> Hehehehehehe..
>>
>> Salam,
>>
>>
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BANGKRUT KARENA ANTM DAN BUMI ?

[Elaine Sui]

*Tbummers, Elaine boleh minta Antam dan INCO? Elaine suka metal. Elaine
sudah ada allocation untuk metal miners. I like metals cuz unlike coal/oil
stocks they look cheap enough. Elaine tunggu Oentoeng - The great king of
Traders - short sampai puas. lol..

Elaine**
*
2008/7/18 t_bumi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Pemain Mini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > halo halo.
> > ada yang sudah BANGKRUT karena
> > ANTM dan BUMI ??? masih ada
> > PUKULAN BERIKUTNYA !?...hehehe.
>
> > SIP : TBUMI
>
>
> Lebih kejam yang mana : bursa saham, ibu tiri atau ibu kota Jakarta.
>
> Bila bursa saham bisa selalu CUAN, maka semuanya sudah jadi
>
> saudagar saham dan tak ada lagi yg jadi pegawai atau pengusaha.
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> + +
> + + + + +
> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> + + + + +
> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Next Movement: Property & Financia

[Elaine Sui]

*"ABG:Andi banci goblok".

Marah tidak? Yeah, sama Elaine juga. Ada yang yangkut juga on some stocks
but that's not the problem. :( BOHONG kalau bilang ada investor tidak pernah
yangkut. Japan, US, Europe, China are all in bearish market. What makes you
think Indonesia is invincible?

But still, I believe IDX will perform better in the long run against those
markets. Anyway Elaine tidak marah, cuma disappointed dengan Moderator OB..
tidak fair menurut Elaine. Tetapi terserah Embah saja. Elaine cuma member di
sini, dan Elaine sangat respect dengan Embah, but that doesn't mean I have
to agree with him all the time.

Elaine
*
2008/7/18 Andi Wahyudi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>  Duh..Yayang kok sensi gitu sich? IEG: Indikator Elaine Gantik
>
> --- On *Fri, 18/7/08, Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>*wrote:
>
> From: Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Next Movement: Property & Financial
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, 18 July, 2008, 9:35 PM
>
>  *Elaine orang gila. Goblok. Clown. Cowok. Kumis. Sotoy (?) Apa lagi boyz?
> Tidak bilang bangsat sekalian? Semua orang di OB lebih banyak ingin hijau,
> kalau market merah then is it my fault? Elaine switching ke Financial is
> that a problem to you? Kalau tidak setuju dengan posting Elaine, you can
> write a counter-analysis, or whatever, but please don't do a personal
> attack.
>
> Elaine juga suka flaming di OB, tetapi tidak personal. Elaine juga tidak
> paksa bilang selalu benar, I do make mistakes sometimes. Omg.. :( Dulu embah
> bilang kalau ada personal attack bisa di banned. tidak consistent.. :(
>
> Elaine**
> *
> 2008/7/18 Cynthia Lavenia <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>:
>
>>  maksud boys IEG (Indikator Elaine Goblok)
>>
>> On 7/18/08, boyz <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com.sg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>>
>>>   --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com,
>>> Andi Wahyudi
>>>  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Yang, kmrn bilangnya mo ijo..berarti minggu ini Yayang kalah dong sama
>>> gank-nya Bozz
>>> >
>>> > BTW, ntar malem datenya tetep jadi kan though IDX berdarah-darah
>>> >
>>> > http://finance. groups.yahoo. com/group/ obrolan-bandar/ 
>>> > message/94270<http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/message/94270>
>>> >
>>> > Ayam minggir dulu aaahh
>>> >
>>>
>>> Kalo kemarin-kemarin ada indikator yg lumayan akurat...
>>> yaitu IEG alias Indikator Etrading Goblok
>>>
>>> Sekarang ada IEG lain, and lumayan akurat pula...
>>> cuma cara baca-nya dibalik alias contrary,
>>> Hehehehehehe. .
>>>
>>> Salam,
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Next Movement: Property & Financia

[Elaine Sui]

*Thank you Dean. It's a really nice of you.

Elaine**
*
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 11:25 PM, Dean Earwicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>  *For Elaine:* biar gimana kamu tetap spesial, whoever you are :)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o_OId7aPn8
>
> *Damainya Cinta*
>  *oleh: Gigi <http://www.kapanlagi.com/lirik/artis/gigi>*
> *
> *
> * Sinar matamu
> Pancarkan kedamaian
> Yang s'lama ini kita impikan
> Lirih suaramu
> Taburkan kesejukan
> Besar artinya untuk diriku
>
> Lembut sikapmu
> Hadirkan kehangatan
> Yang s'lalu ingin ku ungkapkan
>
> Manis senyummu
> Getarkan jiwa ini
> Abadilah adanya dirimu
>
> Damainya cinta untukmu...
> Yang takkan mungkin hilang semua
> Lembutnya cinta untukku...
> 'Kan kupeluk s'lamanya...
>
> Agungnya cinta
> Menunggu disana
> Raih dengan hati yang terbuka*
>
>
>
> btw DJI perdetik ini flat tapi Citi ijo 10%. Fannie Mae dan Freddie Mac
> naik 22% dan 14%. Hmm, sektor haram jadah hampir setahun terakhir (sejak
> agustus 07) mulai bangkit. Mudahan jadi pertanda baik buat semua yah. Amin.
> Sebentar lagi bulan puasa, bozz pasti butuh duit buat THR, spt tahun lalu.
> Semoga.
>
> Tetap optimis dan jangan terlalu dibawa stress. Selama bursa masih buka,
> kesempatan dan harapan akan selalu ada. Indonesia adalah emerging market,
> masih banyak ruang untuk tumbuh dan berkembang, apalagi punya kekayaan alam
> yang sangat banyak. Kadang sentimen pasar bisa menggerakan harga sedemikian
> rupa, namun saya percaya fundamental ekonomi kita cukup kuat. Sangat berbeda
> dengan 10 tahun lalu.
>
> Teliti sebelum membeli, dan yang terpenting sabar dalam melakukan
> investasi. Selama fundamental kuat, prospek cerah, lapkeu sehat, utang
> sedikit, cashflow lancar, kenapa mesti takut dikasih P/E murah?
> *
> Rules #1: Fundamental will always rule*
>
> Happy weekend, dan optimis sajalah™.
>
> Regards,
> DE
>
> Pada 18 Juli 2008 22:59, Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> menulis:
>
>  *Huh? Kemarin Linda, Cynthia, Elaine. Berapa cewek sudah di tipu.. ^_^
>> Bercanda ya.. boyz jadi werewolf kalau full moon. hihihi..
>>
>> *
>>
>>
>>   *
>> Elaine mau berteman/discuss/sharing dengan siapa pun termasuk boyz, tetapi
>> jangan attack personal. Bisa boyz?
>>
>> **
>> Elaine**
>> *
>> 2008/7/18 hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "boyz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "hendrik_lwww" 
>>> > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > Mungking lagi datang bulan...
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Ehh ngomong-ngomong tentang bulan, lagi bulan purnama nih. Full Moon.
>>> > El honey, Jalan-jalan ke Bandung yuk. Katanya disana enak. Apa deh
>>> nama
>>> > tempatnya. Valley?
>>> > Honey moon gitu, hehehe...
>>> >
>>> > Salam,
>>> >
>>> namanya THE VALLEY di DAGO
>>> ini juga enak
>>> Atmothpere aku lupa dimana tepatnya
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> + +
>>> + + + + +
>>> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
>>> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
>>> + + + + +
>>> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Next Movement: Property & Financi

[Elaine Sui]

*Yes you did, many times. Everyone here can read your posts about me. Oh
well...

Elaine
*
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 11:19 PM, boyz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Elaine Sui"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > *Huh? Kemarin Linda, Cynthia, Elaine. Berapa cewek sudah di tipu.. ^_^
> > Bercanda ya.. boyz jadi werewolf kalau full moon. hihihi..
> >
> > Elaine mau berteman/discuss/sharing dengan siapa pun termasuk boyz,
> tetapi
> > jangan attack personal. Bisa boyz?
> >
> > **
> > Elaine**
> > *
>
>
> Wew [image: :O] ... jangan jatuhin pasaran dunk [image: :p]
>
> Btw, I don't attack anyone.
> Memang gw sukanya bercanda / joke, sorry deh kalau kelewatan.
>
> Salam sayang,
>
> eh maksudnya:
>
> Salam,
>
>
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fwd: (UBS) BNBR dwngrd & Asia Equity Strate

[Elaine Sui]

*Still holding your ANTM, Rei? Would you sell it to me? I will buy it @2000.
@1500 is a bless. @1000 is a miracle. @500 is where you become an atheist
>:D

Elaine**
*
2008/7/20 Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>  Tapi..tapi pak DE, bukannya bandar distribusi pas harga naik dan
> akumulasi saat harga anjlok? Itu salah satu prinsip yg saya pelajari dari
> OB...banking naik ada akumulasi ada juga yg distribusi kan...
>
> - Original Message 
> From: Dean Earwicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 2:07:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fwd: (UBS) BNBR dwngrd & Asia Equity Strateg
>
>  Hmm sy baca di asia equity UBS, sama sekali nggak nyebut COAL an CPO?
> malah overweight ke banking/telco?
>
> (psst.. dapet dari Elaine yah.. heheh..)
>
> Jadi beneran finance mo main, sok atuh digeber pak boyz. Bubarkan
> kekaisaran bumi dan princess Adaro di bei. tanda inflow ke financial udah
> ada (embah). kemarin bei diguyur, bank anteng, malah ijo. di freq analyzer
> juga ada sinyal.
>
> Tinggal waktu yang membuktikan. Minyak $128, bisa diperkirakan sektor
> komoditi (coal, cpo, metal) akan diguyur juga selama minyak turun, kita
> lihat apakah sektor lain spt bank dan infra cukup kuat, atau malah ngocol
> ijo krn pada switching?
>
> *Time will tell.* Nasib saham komoditi ada di tangan Bernanke, partai
> Demokrat, Iran dan Israel. Kalo mereka "adem", ya minyak bisa turun banyak,
> komoditi terutama cpo dan bbara pasti guyur terus.
>
> Eh, minyak turun bukannya bagus buat ANTM yah.. <<--keukeuh..
>
> Regards,
> DE
>
> 2008/7/19 boyz <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com.sg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>:
>
>>
>>
>
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Saham Unggulan setelah era komoditi

[Elaine Sui]

*Please state the time frame. Is it 6m, 1Y, 5Y?

Elaine**
*
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 10:47 PM, jos_martino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Gak apa ngga ada di daftar, sebutkan saja 5 UNGGULAN NON-KOMODITI.
> Thanks yang udah reply. saya tambahkan ASII termasuk Bung Hendrik
> juga saya tahu beliau ini ASII fans.
>
> rgs,
> JM
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Hendra Susanto"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > CPRO
> > FPNI
> > LPPS
> > EXCL
> > BTON
> > IKAI
> >
> >
> > 2008/7/20 tV kun0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > >Pak Jos,…ASII kok gak ada yahhh???
> > >
> > > Anyway,…Pilihan sy jatuh pada:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Banking:   BBRI
> > >
> > > Property: CTRA (soalne lg nyangkut)
> > >
> > > Consumer:  INDF
> > >
> > > Basic Ind: SMCB
> > >
> > > Telco:TLKM (Broker sy suruh collect mulu
> niih, pdhl lg
> > > ancur gini)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > sm;)e
> > >
> > > tV.kun0
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *jos_martino
> > > *Sent:* Sunday, July 20, 2008 4:58 PM
> > > *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > > *Subject:* [obrolan-bandar] Saham Unggulan setelah era komoditi
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Daripada ngomongin komoditi yang lagi 'bleeding' mendingan kita
> cari calon
> > > saham-saham BINTANG BEI setelah era komoditi. Dari daftar
> dibawah ini tolong
> > > pilih 5  saja yg menurut anda calon bintang:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 1
> > >
> > > BMRI
> > >
> > > 21
> > >
> > > HEXA
> > >
> > > 2
> > >
> > > BBRI
> > >
> > > 22
> > >
> > > CSAP
> > >
> > > 3
> > >
> > > BBCA
> > >
> > > 23
> > >
> > > JPRS
> > >
> > > 4
> > >
> > > PNBN
> > >
> > > 24
> > >
> > > AKRA
> > >
> > > 5
> > >
> > > BNGA
> > >
> > > 25
> > >
> > > DEWA
> > >
> > > 6
> > >
> > > BDMN
> > >
> > > 26
> > >
> > > FPNI
> > >
> > > 7
> > >
> > > WIKA
> > >
> > > 27
> > >
> > > INTP
> > >
> > > 8
> > >
> > > ADHI
> > >
> > > 28
> > >
> > > SMCB
> > >
> > > 9
> > >
> > > SMRA
> > >
> > > 29
> > >
> > > SMGR
> > >
> > > 10
> > >
> > > KIJA
> > >
> > > 30
> > >
> > > LPPS
> > >
> > > 11
> > >
> > > SSIA
> > >
> > > 31
> > >
> > > INKP
> > >
> > > 12
> > >
> > > GPRA
> > >
> > > 32
> > >
> > > KBRI
> > >
> > > 13
> > >
> > > CTRS
> > >
> > > 33
> > >
> > > LTLS
> > >
> > > 14
> > >
> > > CTRA
> > >
> > > 34
> > >
> > > HOME
> > >
> > > 15
> > >
> > > CTRP
> > >
> > > 35
> > >
> > > PNLF
> > >
> > > 16
> > >
> > > INDF
> > >
> > > 36
> > >
> > > TLKM
> > >
> > > 17
> > >
> > > CPRO
> > >
> > > 37
> > >
> > > ISAT
> > >
> > > 18
> > >
> > > KLBF
> > >
> > > 38
> > >
> > > BTEL
> > >
> > > 19
> > >
> > > UNVR
> > >
> > > 39
> > >
> > > EXCL
> > >
> > > 20
> > >
> > > UNTR
> > >
> > > 40
> > >
> > > IKAI
> > >
> > > Saham Pilihan Anda akan saya summary-kan
> > >
> > > "Saham Pilihan OB" nantinya saya rasa patut diperhitungkan.
> > >
> > > rgs,
> > >
> > > JM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> 
>
> + +
> + + + + +
> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> + + + + +
> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Saham Unggulan setelah era komoditi

[Elaine Sui]

*In one year all of them are higher than today. My top picks will be
financials and property stocks. Really sorry I cant give the detail, so
count me out.

Elaine**
*
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 11:03 PM, jos_martino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 1Y, EL, at least before pemilu/election 2009.
> I'm waiting yours, thanks.
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Elaine Sui"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > *Please state the time frame. Is it 6m, 1Y, 5Y?
> >
> > Elaine**
> > *
> > On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 10:47 PM, jos_martino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Gak apa ngga ada di daftar, sebutkan saja 5 UNGGULAN NON-
> KOMODITI.
> > > Thanks yang udah reply. saya tambahkan ASII termasuk Bung Hendrik
> > > juga saya tahu beliau ini ASII fans.
> > >
> > > rgs,
> > > JM
> > >
> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Hendra Susanto"
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > CPRO
> > > > FPNI
> > > > LPPS
> > > > EXCL
> > > > BTON
> > > > IKAI
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2008/7/20 tV kun0 :
> > > >
> > > > >Pak Jos,…ASII kok gak ada yahhh???
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyway,…Pilihan sy jatuh pada:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Banking:   BBRI
> > > > >
> > > > > Property: CTRA (soalne lg nyangkut)
> > > > >
> > > > > Consumer:  INDF
> > > > >
> > > > > Basic Ind: SMCB
> > > > >
> > > > > Telco:TLKM (Broker sy suruh collect mulu
> > > niih, pdhl lg
> > > > > ancur gini)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > sm;)e
> > > > >
> > > > > tV.kun0
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *jos_martino
> > > > > *Sent:* Sunday, July 20, 2008 4:58 PM
> > > > > *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > *Subject:* [obrolan-bandar] Saham Unggulan setelah era
> komoditi
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Daripada ngomongin komoditi yang lagi 'bleeding' mendingan
> kita
> > > cari calon
> > > > > saham-saham BINTANG BEI setelah era komoditi. Dari daftar
> > > dibawah ini tolong
> > > > > pilih 5  saja yg menurut anda calon bintang:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 1
> > > > >
> > > > > BMRI
> > > > >
> > > > > 21
> > > > >
> > > > > HEXA
> > > > >
> > > > > 2
> > > > >
> > > > > BBRI
> > > > >
> > > > > 22
> > > > >
> > > > > CSAP
> > > > >
> > > > > 3
> > > > >
> > > > > BBCA
> > > > >
> > > > > 23
> > > > >
> > > > > JPRS
> > > > >
> > > > > 4
> > > > >
> > > > > PNBN
> > > > >
> > > > > 24
> > > > >
> > > > > AKRA
> > > > >
> > > > > 5
> > > > >
> > > > > BNGA
> > > > >
> > > > > 25
> > > > >
> > > > > DEWA
> > > > >
> > > > > 6
> > > > >
> > > > > BDMN
> > > > >
> > > > > 26
> > > > >
> > > > > FPNI
> > > > >
> > > > > 7
> > > > >
> > > > > WIKA
> > > > >
> > > > > 27
> > > > >
> > > > > INTP
> > > > >
> > > > > 8
> > > > >
> > > > > ADHI
> > > > >
> > > > > 28
> > > > >
> > > > > SMCB
> > > > >
> > > > > 9
> > > > >
> > > > > SMRA
> > > > >
> > > > > 29
> > > > >
> > > > > SMGR
> > > > >
> > > > > 10
> > > > >
> > > > > KIJA
> > > > >
> > > > > 30
> > > > >
> > > > > LPPS
> > > > >
> > > > > 11
> > > > >
> > > > > SSIA
> > > > >
> > > > > 31
> > > > >
> > > > > INKP
> > > > >
> > > > > 12
> > > > >
> > > > > GPRA
> > > > >
> > > > > 32
> > > > >
> > > > > KBRI
> > > > >
> > > > > 13
> > > > >
> > > > > CTRS
> > > > >
> > > > > 33
> > > > >
> > > > > LTLS
> > > > >
> > > > > 14
> > > > >
> > > > > CTRA
> > > > >
> > > > > 34
> > > > >
> > > > > HOME
> > > > >
> > > > > 15
> > > > >
> > > > > CTRP
> > > > >
> > > > > 35
> > > > >
> > > > > PNLF
> > > > >
> > > > > 16
> > > > >
> > > > > INDF
> > > > >
> > > > > 36
> > > > >
> > > > > TLKM
> > > > >
> > > > > 17
> > > > >
> > > > > CPRO
> > > > >
> > > > > 37
> > > > >
> > > > > ISAT
> > > > >
> > > > > 18
> > > > >
> > > > > KLBF
> > > > >
> > > > > 38
> > > > >
> > > > > BTEL
> > > > >
> > > > > 19
> > > > >
> > > > > UNVR
> > > > >
> > > > > 39
> > > > >
> > > > > EXCL
> > > > >
> > > > > 20
> > > > >
> > > > > UNTR
> > > > >
> > > > > 40
> > > > >
> > > > > IKAI
> > > > >
> > > > > Saham Pilihan Anda akan saya summary-kan
> > > > >
> > > > > "Saham Pilihan OB" nantinya saya rasa patut diperhitungkan.
> > > > >
> > > > > rgs,
> > > > >
> > > > > JM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > + +
> > > + + + + +
> > > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> > > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> > > + + + + +
> > > + +Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> 
>
> + +
> + + + + +
> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> + + + + +
> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Fwd: (UBS) BNBR dwngrd & Asia Equity Strat

[Elaine Sui]

*BNBR and ELTY are already bluechips. *doh*

Elaine**
*
2008/7/20 boyz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Mr. Rei is a Long term investor, darling. Jangan disamakan dengan
> trader.
> Lagian siklus ANTM lagi turun, kan belum tentu selamanya akan turun.
> Nanti juga naik lagi pada saatnya.
>
> Btw, sesuai subject di atas... kan tentang BNBR.
> Elaine masih pegang BNBR?
> BNBR is your 'next bluechips', right? hehehe...
>
> Salam,
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Elaine Sui"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > *Still holding your ANTM, Rei? Would you sell it to me? I will buy it
> @2000.
> > @1500 is a bless. @1000 is a miracle. @500 is where you become an
> atheist
> > >:D
> >
> > Elaine**
> > *
> > 2008/7/20 Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> >
> > >  Tapi..tapi pak DE, bukannya bandar distribusi pas harga naik dan
> > > akumulasi saat harga anjlok? Itu salah satu prinsip yg saya pelajari
> dari
> > > OB...banking naik ada akumulasi ada juga yg distribusi kan...
> > >
> > > - Original Message 
> > > From: Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 2:07:01 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fwd: (UBS) BNBR dwngrd & Asia Equity
> Strateg
> > >
> > >  Hmm sy baca di asia equity UBS, sama sekali nggak nyebut COAL an
> CPO?
> > > malah overweight ke banking/telco?
> > >
> > > (psst.. dapet dari Elaine yah.. heheh..)
> > >
> > > Jadi beneran finance mo main, sok atuh digeber pak boyz. Bubarkan
> > > kekaisaran bumi dan princess Adaro di bei. tanda inflow ke financial
> udah
> > > ada (embah). kemarin bei diguyur, bank anteng, malah ijo. di freq
> analyzer
> > > juga ada sinyal.
> > >
> > > Tinggal waktu yang membuktikan. Minyak $128, bisa diperkirakan
> sektor
> > > komoditi (coal, cpo, metal) akan diguyur juga selama minyak turun,
> kita
> > > lihat apakah sektor lain spt bank dan infra cukup kuat, atau malah
> ngocol
> > > ijo krn pada switching?
> > >
> > > *Time will tell.* Nasib saham komoditi ada di tangan Bernanke,
> partai
> > > Demokrat, Iran dan Israel. Kalo mereka "adem", ya minyak bisa turun
> banyak,
> > > komoditi terutama cpo dan bbara pasti guyur terus.
> > >
> > > Eh, minyak turun bukannya bagus buat ANTM yah.. <<--keukeuh..
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > DE
> > >
> > > 2008/7/19 boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.sg [EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> 
>
> + +
> + + + + +
> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> + + + + +
> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Saham Unggulan setelah era komoditi

[Elaine Sui]

*Can't say. I will not say anything beyond my capability. Sorry. :-)

Elaine**
*
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 11:50 PM, Vincent Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>  not bnbr and black chip el? i thought bnbr 1000? black chip 1000?
>
>
> *Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
>  *In one year all of them are higher than today. My top picks will be
> financials and property stocks. Really sorry I cant give the detail, so
> count me out.
>
> Elaine**
> *
> On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 11:03 PM, jos_martino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>> 1Y, EL, at least before pemilu/election 2009.
>> I'm waiting yours, thanks.
>>
>> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Elaine Sui"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > *Please state the time frame. Is it 6m, 1Y, 5Y?
>> >
>> > Elaine**
>> > *
>> > On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 10:47 PM, jos_martino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Gak apa ngga ada di daftar, sebutkan saja 5 UNGGULAN NON-
>> KOMODITI.
>> > > Thanks yang udah reply. saya tambahkan ASII termasuk Bung Hendrik
>> > > juga saya tahu beliau ini ASII fans.
>> > >
>> > > rgs,
>> > > JM
>> > >
>> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Hendra Susanto"
>> > >  wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > CPRO
>> > > > FPNI
>> > > > LPPS
>> > > > EXCL
>> > > > BTON
>> > > > IKAI
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > 2008/7/20 tV kun0 :
>> > > >
>> > > > >Pak Jos,…ASII kok gak ada yahhh???
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Anyway,…Pilihan sy jatuh pada:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Banking:   BBRI
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Property: CTRA (soalne lg nyangkut)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Consumer:  INDF
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Basic Ind: SMCB
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Telco:TLKM (Broker sy suruh collect mulu
>> > > niih, pdhl lg
>> > > > > ancur gini)
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > sm;)e
>> > > > >
>> > > > > tV.kun0
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
>> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *jos_martino
>> > > > > *Sent:* Sunday, July 20, 2008 4:58 PM
>> > > > > *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>> > > > > *Subject:* [obrolan-bandar] Saham Unggulan setelah era
>> komoditi
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Daripada ngomongin komoditi yang lagi 'bleeding' mendingan
>> kita
>> > > cari calon
>> > > > > saham-saham BINTANG BEI setelah era komoditi. Dari daftar
>> > > dibawah ini tolong
>> > > > > pilih 5  saja yg menurut anda calon bintang:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 1
>> > > > >
>> > > > > BMRI
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 21
>> > > > >
>> > > > > HEXA
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 2
>> > > > >
>> > > > > BBRI
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 22
>> > > > >
>> > > > > CSAP
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 3
>> > > > >
>> > > > > BBCA
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 23
>> > > > >
>> > > > > JPRS
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 4
>> > > > >
>> > > > > PNBN
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 24
>> > > > >
>> > > > > AKRA
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 5
>> > > > >
>> > > > > BNGA
>> > > &g

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: NONA ELAINE SUI SIAPA YANG PUNYA ?

[Elaine Sui]

*NEXT TOPIC PLEASE!!!

Elaine**
*
2008/7/21 abdulrahim abdulrahim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> 2008/7/20 boyz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Bumi T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Bila bisa menjawab dgn tepat pertanyaan ini, maka ANTM bisa tembus
> >> ke harga berapa juga akan terjawab.
> >> Apakah Elaine secantik foto foto dibawah ini ?
> >> www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ncqYh6ZUQI
> >>
> >
> >
> > What's the point?
> > ya udah, iseng-2 jawab...
> >
> > pertanyaaan subject: Nona Elaine siapa yang punya?
> > Jawab: ya maz boyz lah... masa maz boyz dong. ... hehehe, punya bapak &
> > ibunya deh...
> >
> > Pertanyaan : Apakah Elaine secantik foto-foto dibawah ini?
> > Jawab:  nggak !
> >
> > kaburrr,
>
> Iya, point nya apa pak TBUM?
>
> Ngomong2. Emang kalau ceweq secakep yang nomor 3, mau diapain aja pak TBUM?
> Klo gw sih mending cakep hatinya. Muka mah gak bisa diapa2in soalnya =))
> Tp yang asoi tentunya yang cakep dari ujung rambut sampai ujung kuku
> jempol kaki. Yang fisik maupun yang non fisik.
>
> Untuk TBUM sih yang terakhir aja LOL
>
> BTW, let's ride the bull this week
>
> 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Next Movement: Property & Financi

[Elaine Sui]

*There are two boyz in this group. Good boy and bad boy. Split personality.
One is my friend, and the other is not so friendly. One is faithful to his
wife, the other is just a all-the-way-around swinger. One is a pure
technicalist, the other smiles better than a rottweiler.

"**But, I'd rather be hated for I am than loved for who I'm not."*
*
Well, honestly I don't even have the time to hate you. I just feel it's such
a waste for me to deal with you. you're just not friendly to me, okay. Oh,
anyway, your flirting skill sucks.
*
*Elaine**
*
2008/7/19 boyz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "linda suciaty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > boyz...
> > pelajaran pertama ilmu komunikasi buat malem minggu ini:
> > You are what you say. Engga salah meng-ekspresikan sesuatu.. tapi kalo
> > bisa.. tetep jaga citra diri :P. Jadi orang biasa yang tidak biasa.
> >
> > EL,
> > besok2 kalo boyz kambuh lagi :P, biarkan saja.. kafilah berlalu :D.
> >
>
>
> Wah, gak mau ah...  kan waktu itu bilangnya kursus private.
> Btw, pelajaran pertamanya berat nih. Trick khusus untuk *jaim*. Hehehe...
> Thanks anyway buat saran 'ekspresi'-nya [image: :D]...  lol.
> But, I'd rather be hated for I am than loved for who I'm not.
>
> kekekek... berat banget tuh kalimat.
> halah... Pada serius amat nanggapinnya.
> Karakter di virtual world belum tentu sama lah dengan di reality.
>
> Yang 'no body' di reality, pinginnya terlihat 'Wah' di virtual world.
> Yang 'some body' di reality, justru kebanyakan cuek aja di virtual.
> (*Soalnya udah capek kali yah, kesehariannya harus selalu jaim didepan
> people*).
> But, generalisasi sih... gak semuanya gitu.
>
> Katanya sih : *Words can be deceiving*.
>
> Salam,
>
>
> 
>

[obrolan-bandar] So happy happy happy

[Elaine Sui]

*

*

*Friends, are you happy too? Finally, what I'm expecting is about to come.
Right on! Buy now, get rich later. Tetapi jangan salah beli. Financials,
Housing, Metals, Infrastructure, Construction, Auto. Energy and Agriculture
will support IDX later whenever It needs to be supercharged, maybe next
year. So don't worry.*

*Well of course you can wait for further indicators if you wish. But for ME
I'm confident enough with the market. Note that I'm not a trader nor a
forecaster. Daily, volatility doesn't bother me much, right Kang Ocoy? ^_^*
*
Elaine*
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] So happy happy happy

[Elaine Sui]

*Ada. It's okay really as long as all Bakrieland projects are on the way.
Elaine masih expect bisa accumulate <300. I like discounts. ^_^ Maybe I
should wait until everyone loses their sanity and do something stupid.

Elaine**
*
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 2:13 PM, abdulrahim abdulrahim <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 7:33 AM, Elaine Sui
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Friends, are you happy too? Finally, what I'm expecting is about to come.
> > Right on! Buy now, get rich later. Tetapi jangan salah beli. Financials,
> > Housing, Metals, Infrastructure, Construction, Auto. Energy and
> Agriculture
> > will support IDX later whenever It needs to be supercharged, maybe next
> > year. So don't worry.
> >
> > Well of course you can wait for further indicators if you wish. But for
> ME
> > I'm confident enough with the market. Note that I'm not a trader nor a
> > forecaster. Daily, volatility doesn't bother me much, right Kang Ocoy?
> ^_^
> >
> > Elaine
>
> But your ELTY still Yangkut khan? :D
>
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: So happy happy happy

[Elaine Sui]

*Kalau takut banyak saham lain. :) Property is not just Bakrieland.

Elaine**
*
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 2:28 PM, hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Elaine Sui"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > *Ada. It's okay really as long as all Bakrieland projects are on the
> way.
> > Elaine masih expect bisa accumulate <300. I like discounts. ^_^ Maybe
> I
> > should wait until everyone loses their sanity and do something stupid.
> >
> > Elaine**
> > *
>
> salah satu yang bahaya mengenai Group BAKRIE Cs (ELTY,BTEL, BUMI, BNBR)
> adalah kalau next year dah ngga berkuasa lagi...
>
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: So happy happy happy

[Elaine Sui]

*I KNOW LOLOLOL hendrik jangan panasi member OB nanti jadi provocator.
Banyak anak kecil di OB. Mereka beli terus turun harga pasti di maki... ha
ha ha. Kasih recommendation cukup satu kali saja. Kalau setiap hari nanti
orang bosan. Tidak boleh juga saying "I told you" seperti noob.

Elaine**
*
2008/7/22 hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Elaine Sui"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > *Kalau takut banyak saham lain. :) Property is not just Bakrieland.
> >
> > Elaine**
> > *
> CTRA Tuh mantap pas di 500
>
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: So happy happy happy

[Elaine Sui]

*:) maaf maksud Elaine bukan Hendrik. ppl lagi sensitive jadi harus
hati-hati post di OB. Apalagi Embah sudah lupa sama retail... sudah tua
gampang lupa.. Elaine mau kasih back massage biar fresh lagi Embah ? ^_^
Come on, where's the SPIRIT?

Elaine**
*
2008/7/22 hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Elaine Sui"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > *I KNOW LOLOLOL hendrik jangan panasi member OB nanti jadi provocator.
> > Banyak anak kecil di OB. Mereka beli terus turun harga pasti di
> maki... ha
> > ha ha. Kasih recommendation cukup satu kali saja. Kalau setiap hari
> nanti
> > orang bosan. Tidak boleh juga saying "I told you" seperti noob.
> >
> > Elaine**
> > *
>
> siapa yang bilang "I Told You" seingatku aku ngga pernah bilang I TOLD
> YOU kok,he3...
>
> kalau tebak2anku bener biasanya aku diem aja,he3...
> kalau salah juga diem aja,he3...
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Coal - 6,85 % & Oil turun >

[Elaine Sui]

*No. You told ME, Jos. Damn, we're good. ^_^

Elaine*

2008/7/23 jos_martino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Elaine, *Damn, I'm good = I Told You*
> Katanya ngga boleh bilang "I Told You"
> He3X LOL
>
> rgs,
> JM
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Elaine Sui"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > *Damn, I'm good.
> >
> > Elaine*
> >
> > 2008/7/23 Sulistyo Winarto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > >  Pak JM & Senior OB, Bakal merah tuakah IHSG hari ini ? Coal
> intraday di
> > > US -6,85 % sempat sampai - 8%. Minyak sempat turun  $ 5. SALAM
> > >
> > > --
> > > Yahoo! Toolbar kini dilengkapi dengan Search Assist. Download
> sekarang
> > >
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] properti rebound

[Elaine Sui]

*Obviously, yes.

Elaine**
*
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Caroline Caroline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>  properti bullish?
>
> 
>

[obrolan-bandar] Embah kemana.. need marketwise technical A.S.A.P.

[Elaine Sui]

*Elaine minta marketwise technical tidak dikasih... :(

Elaine*

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Embah kemana.. need marketwise technical A.S.A.P.

[Elaine Sui]

*I am. He's also good. You're good too. Everyone here is good according to
themself. Anyway, I just think my strategy needs to be confirmed from the
common technical side. lol can't be too sure of everything..

Elaine**
*
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Thought you're already so good...
>
>
> - Original Message 
> From: Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:44:20 AM
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Embah kemana.. need marketwise technical A.S.A.P.
>
>  *Elaine minta marketwise technical tidak dikasih... :(
>
> Elaine*
>
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] properti rebound

[Elaine Sui]

*Consensus says 9.75% at most this year, but I expect things to change cuz
of lower inflation pressure.

Elaine**
*
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Prasetyo, Hani <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Not yet… waiting confirmation of BI rate next month…
>
>
>  --
>
> *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *abdulrahim abdulrahim
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:51 AM
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] properti rebound
>
>
>
> But they looks like going nowhere
>
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:41 AM, Elaine Sui
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> wrote:
> > Obviously, yes.
> >
> > Elaine
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Caroline Caroline <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> properti bullish?
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] properti rebound

[Elaine Sui]

*Nowhere but up. :) Seriously doesn't anyone notice the HUGE SWITCHING
process from Energy+Cmdty to Finance+Prop is happening? Don't be so
ignorant, come on..

Elaine**
*
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 9:50 AM, abdulrahim abdulrahim <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> But they looks like going nowhere
>
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:41 AM, Elaine Sui
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Obviously, yes.
> >
> > Elaine
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Caroline Caroline <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >>
> >> properti bullish?
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[obrolan-bandar] Oentoeng sudah tidak tahan mau bilang "I told you"

[Elaine Sui]

*two thumbs up

^_^

Elaine*

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Oentoeng sudah tidak tahan mau bilang "I told you"

[Elaine Sui]

*I'm not sure. I'm just a newbie.

Elaine**
*
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Jack Surya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  so EL, which one will reach 1000 firstBNBR or ELTY???
>
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Elaine Sui <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>   *two thumbs up
>>
>> ^_^
>>
>> Elaine*
>>
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>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Oentoeng sudah tidak tahan mau bilang "I told you"

[Elaine Sui]

*Elaine back off saja. I think I have done enough.

Elaine**
*
2008/7/23 oentoeng_qq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Kalau saya sangat tahu diri, khan sudah ada 2 jagoan yaitu Anda ama
> JM...itu yg keliatan.
> Yg nggak keliatan jg banyak kok.
>
> For my dear friend...mining, cpo, energi lovers...
> Ini bukan pisau jatuh tapi GOBANG si Jampang ato Clurit P. Sakerah
> yg anda hadapi...
>
> Sabarrr...lowest masih belon KELIATAN!?
>
> Always SAFE TRADING
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Elaine Sui"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > *two thumbs up
> >
> > ^_^
> >
> > Elaine*
> >
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Sekilas MINGGU DEPAN

[Elaine Sui]

*
Elaine**
*
2008/7/27 Pemain Mini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>  ya biasalah kalo kabar BURUK sambutan kyk gini.
> kalo kabar GEMBIRA...sambutannya AMPUUUNNN..
> MARAK sekal..
> ENTE kan dah pernah bikin kacau tuh MARET lalu yee.
> hahahahahahahaha..skr gw saja yg ketawa.
> hauhauhauahuahauauahuah..
> hauahauhauhauhauahuahua..
> yang PASTI.kalau MISAL gak ada HAJAR2-an..
> ya gunakan TIMING BUAT KELUAR.karena ACARA
> HAJAR2 an BLM SELESAI !?!?!?!?
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
>  *From:* pemainbesar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 27, 2008 7:55 AM
> *Subject:* [obrolan-bandar] Re: Sekilas MINGGU DEPAN
>
>  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Pemain Mini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > minggu depan ini atau 2 minggu ke depan mungkin indeks
> > akan DIHAJAR ke AKAR - AKAR nya
> > SO BEWARE
> >
>
> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
> ahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahhahahahhahaahahahahahahahahahahah
> a
> geeez thanks for giving me such a big laugh...hahahahahahahaha
>
> know nothing but talk too much
>
> 
>
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Full Force untuk crash terakhir di tahun ini

[Elaine Sui]

*Elaine mau baca OB saja. Mau lihat analysis senior seperti expert sekali.

Elaine**
*
2008/7/27 Hanif Mantiq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> *Aneh tapi nyata tapi beneran terjadi, jauh-jauh hari
> ada yang sudah prediksi kondisi market kita, ada 4 bad
> news yang akan menghantam market kita dan membuat
> Asian Investor will do well setelahnya. saya buat
> pentahapan saja
>
> 1. Emerging Market Bond Yield Rise (kejadian pertama)
>
> 2. Asian Interest Rates Rise (kejadian kedua)
>
> Kedua kejadian diatas mengakibatkan dulu analis banyak
> yang merekomendasikan untuk stay away dari interest
> rate sensitiv stock (which is banking sector ama asii)
> dan masuk ke commodity stock aja untuk amannya
>
> 3. Commodity and oil price falls (kejadian ketiga,
> sedang berlangsung)
>
> Kejadian ketiga tersebut disikapi oleh para analis
> untuk masuk banking sector ama properti dan menjauhi
> saham komoditi baik hard commodity ama soft commodity.
> Meskipun demikian rebound di banking ama properti
> belum membalikan posisi harganya di awal tahun,
> sementara beberapa saham hard commodity ama soft
> commodity sudah mulai turun dari posisinya di awal
> tahun.
>
> 4. Asian Currencies weaken against the US dollar
> (kejadian keempat, belum berlangsung dan sangat
> mungkin terjadi dalam waktu yang sangat dekat)
>
> Biasanya kalo rupiah melemah terhadap dollar US, ihsg
> akan di drag down ke bawah. Sejelek-jeleknya mungkin
> di harga 9.500 rupiah per dollar US.
>
> Hal ini malah bisa dimanfaatkan untuk mulai bottom
> fishing saham di harga termurah. Pada tahap keempat
> ini mungkin penurunan saham tidak mengenal penurunan
> sektornya lagi karena sell market order (jualan
> portofolio).
>
> Nah kalo ke empat bad news sudah keluar semuam tinggal
> mengharap good news aja kedepannya sehingga market
> kita bakalan nge- "joss" lagi (ini sudah menjadi
> sinyal kuat kalo di hp udah 5 setrip)
>
> Sayangnya prediksi market ke depan agak sedikit
> terhambat karena adanya pemilu di tahun 2009, meskipun
> sangat pro bullish market mending jangan jadi bullish
> yang berlebihan sekedar mengharap ihsg di akhir tahun
> kembali ke levelnya di awal tahun ini (lupakan saja
> target indeks 3600 dari otoritas pasar modal kita)
>
> Prediksi kedepan mungkin elaine jauh lebih tahu karena
> sejak awal dia senang ama Obama yang pernah mengenyam
> sekolah dasar di menteng jakarta pusat(he.he..he...
> maaf ya jeng jadi ga nyambung abis sekarang udah mulai
> pelit info jadi harus mulai sedikit di korek korek)
>
> O iya tahapan kejadian tersebut aku copy paste dari
> pendapat orang modal searching di internet
> saja(sebenarnya ini gampang ketahuannya karena bahasa
> inggris ku jelek jadi ga mungkin banget bisa nulis
> "Emerging Market Bond Yield Rise").*
>
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Inflasi di Zimbabwe

[Elaine Sui]

*Pegged (Fixed) currency often lead to severe financial crises since a peg
is difficult to maintain in the long run. This was seen in the Mexican
(1995), Asian and Russian (1997) financial crises: an attempt (by the
government) to maintain a high value of the local currency to the peg
resulted in the currencies eventually becoming overvalued. This meant that
the governments could no longer meet the demands to convert the local
currency into the foreign currency at the pegged rate.

With speculation and panic, investors scrambled to get out their money and
convert it into foreign currency before the local currency was devalued
against the peg; foreign reserve supplies eventually became depleted. In
Mexico's case, the government was forced to devalue the peso by 30%. In
Thailand, the government eventually had to allow the currency to float, and
by the end of 1997, the baht had lost its value by 50% as the market's
demand and supply readjusted the value of the local currency. Rupiah also
lost as much as 80% of its value.

So it's not an option for Indonesia. Different case for China since they're net
exporters, their currency has to be pegged.

Elaine**
*
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 6:42 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Saya sangat menghargai sikap spt anda bung! Sy sendiri tidak pernah pegang
> dollar apalagi transaksi dollar! Kecuali unt keperluan2 penting (ke LN). Sy
> disayangkan banyak sahabat2 sy sangat sering melakukab jual/beli dollar unt
> keuntungan sendiri! mendingan di peg aja RP kita dilevel 9000 drpd jadi
> ajabg spekulasi
>
> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry(R)
>
> --
> *From*: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Date*: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 00:05:25 +0700 (WIT)
> *To*: 
> *Subject*: [obrolan-bandar] Inflasi di Zimbabwe
>
>
>
> Please have respect to our own currency,
> Walaupun korupsi merajalela …. Kita harapkan usaha KPK bisa membuahkan
> hasil
> Dan kalau bukan masyarakat Indonesia yang menghargai rupiah  siapa
> lag ??
>
> Saya malah berpendapat sudah saatnya BI mengeluarkan mata uang Rp500,000-an
>
> A3K
>
> 
> From: 
> [mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of ALX™
> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 5:12 PM
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar]
>
> Setuju nih kalo mata uang rupiah angkanya dibagi 1000 untuk mempermudah...
> Tapi 1 dollar tdk sama dengan Rp 9,3
> melainkan 1 dollar = KR 9,3
>
> KR maksud nya KiloRupiah, atau malah bagusnya di singkat Korup (KiloRupiah)
> Jadi 1 dollar = Korup 9,3
>
> :)
>
> --
> Salam
> ALX™
>
> 2008/7/26 <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> Beberapa negara pernah mengalami inflasi gila-gilaan seperti ini,
> Jerman pasca PD II inflasinya super tinggi sampai harus menerbitkan
> mata uang jutaan mark, bolivia, yugoslavia dan sekarang zimbabwe.
> Gimana caranya mereka mengembalikan nilai mata uang ke angka yang
> normal ? Apakah dengan sanering seperti jaman sukarno dulu?
>
> Misalnya mata uang rupiah angkanya dibagi 1000 untuk mempermudah
> penyebutan, sehingga 1 dollar = Rp. 9.3 apa efeknya bagi dunia
> keuangan ?
>
> Rgds
>
>  
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?

[Elaine Sui]

*Sudahlah buat apa trading saham, jual saja semua daripada rugi terus. Mana
bisa semua orang gain, harus ada yang korban, right? hihi.. apa perlu Elaine
paksa jual? Nanti Oentoeng yang senang karena target kena. ha ha ha ha..

Elaine akan sangat happy kalau ada mau jual murah sekali.

Elaine**
*
2008/7/29 Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Dari 680 ke 320 (-53%) trus sekarang di 370, kapan yah bisa ke
> target yg "katanya" 1000? Buset dah! Siap2 aja nyangkut lama...LONG
> way to go...c'mon Elaine, get busy!
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Petualang Saham"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > NYANGKUT lagi dech. Hati2 ntar di semprot.
> > Elaine klo NYANGKUT sukanya marah2 lho.
> > Hehehe...
> >
> > compor.com
> >
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "conx_2003" 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > klo di lihat 5 hari terakhir yah ga bisa dibilang nyungsep
> > >
> > > kalau 3-5 bulan yah nyungsep
> > >
> > > bukankah klo nyungsep opportunity to buy?
> > >
> > > hehehehehehhehehe saya yg kumpulin deh
> > > kali ini jual apaan yeh
> > >
> > > jualan hape aja deh skarang pake sony ericsson, 5 bulan lagi
> ganti
> > > vertu hihihihihihihi
> > >
> >
>
>
>
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] BDMN Financial Performance Q2/2008

[Elaine Sui]

*Strangely, I see SALES on Danamon? COGS? What sales? Did they sell pizza or
something?.. :) This is a joke, right?

Elaine**
*
2008/7/30 OB Help desk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Begitu juga Performance salah satu Blue Chip PERBANKAN yaitu BDMN,
> tetap MANTAP alias tidak mengalami  DEGRADASI akibat krisis
> ekonomi global...
>
> Malah krisis ekonomi global memberikan kesempatan pada investor
> untuk belanja saham MURAH.
>
> PER BMDN = 12 pada harga Rp 5550.
>
>
> Terlampir: BDMN Financial Performance Q2/2008
>
>
> Regards
>
> OB helpdesk
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !? BANKRUPT INVESTOR

[Elaine Sui]

*omg Elaine salah apa?

Elaine**
*
2008/7/29 Frendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>  hehe...I don't trade as wellbut INVEST ?
> I've already lost almost 50 % because of 1 year investing.
> 2007 HELL INVESTINGam I STUPID INVESTOR ? hahahaha
> how many years should i WAIT again ? need advice plz
> investing is NOT only about 1 year...but 5 years ? really ?
> from now on...can investing make profit in 3 - 5 years ?
> or.investing will make me SUFFER and BANKRUPT in next 5 years ?
> say a company with a GOOD FUNDAMENTAL
> ELTY ? is it GOOD or BAD or SUPER BAD ?
> ANTM ? F*CK H*LL BAD ?
>
> Which ONE that have a F*CK & S*CK FUNDAMENTAL ?
>
> compare to LCGP, SIPD, POLY ?
> my betthose F*CKIN STOCKS above will give MORE money if we
> invest from now oncompare to F*CK ELTY ANTM...
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:31 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
>
>  You're right, buat apa trading saham...I don't. I invest instead
>
> - Original Message 
> From: Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:00:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELTY nya ELaine NYUNGSEP !?
>
>  *Sudahlah buat apa trading saham, jual saja semua daripada rugi terus.
> Mana bisa semua orang gain, harus ada yang korban, right? hihi.. apa perlu
> Elaine paksa jual? Nanti Oentoeng yang senang karena target kena. ha ha ha
> ha..
>
> Elaine akan sangat happy kalau ada mau jual murah sekali.
>
> Elaine**
> *
> 2008/7/29 Rei >
>
>> Dari 680 ke 320 (-53%) trus sekarang di 370, kapan yah bisa ke
>> target yg "katanya" 1000? Buset dah! Siap2 aja nyangkut lama...LONG
>> way to go...c'mon Elaine, get busy!
>>
>>
>> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com ,
>> "Petualang Saham"
>>   wrote:
>> >
>> > NYANGKUT lagi dech. Hati2 ntar di semprot.
>> > Elaine klo NYANGKUT sukanya marah2 lho.
>> > Hehehe...
>> >
>> > compor.com
>> >
>> >
>> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com,
>> "conx_2003" 
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > klo di lihat 5 hari terakhir yah ga bisa dibilang nyungsep
>> > >
>> > > kalau 3-5 bulan yah nyungsep
>> > >
>> > > bukankah klo nyungsep opportunity to buy?
>> > >
>> > > hehehehehehhehehe saya yg kumpulin deh
>> > > kali ini jual apaan yeh
>> > >
>> > > jualan hape aja deh skarang pake sony ericsson, 5 bulan lagi
>> ganti
>> > > vertu hihihihihihihi
>> > >
>> >
>>
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] So happy happy happy

[Elaine Sui]

*Just a friendly advice. You will get CRAZY if you invest based on
headlines. News is ALWAYS LATE and EXAGGERATED.  If I were you, I will
invest based on facts and expectations.

Now, what is your expectations for this 2nd half? We have Olympic, Idl Fitr,
US Election, Christmas. What'd ppl (market) react on these events..?

Elaine**
*
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 1:12 AM, Andi Wahyudi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> H...I am interest*ed* why you promoted Banking sectors for *so *many
> times
>
> Banks brace for more pain
> http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/25/news/companies/banks_wrapup/index.htm?postversion=2008072512
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 22/7/08, Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>*wrote:
>
> From: Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] So happy happy happy
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, 22 July, 2008, 1:33 PM
>
>  *
>
> *
>
> *Friends, are you happy too? Finally, what I'm expecting is about to come.
> Right on! Buy now, get rich later. Tetapi jangan salah beli. Financials,
> Housing, Metals, Infrastructure, Construction, Auto. Energy and Agriculture
> will support IDX later whenever It needs to be supercharged, maybe next
> year. So don't worry.*
>
> *Well of course you can wait for further indicators if you wish. But for
> ME I'm confident enough with the market. Note that I'm not a trader nor a
> forecaster. Daily, volatility doesn't bother me much, right Kang Ocoy? ^_^
> *
> *
> Elaine*
>
>
> Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: US STOCKS-Market opens higher on Fed measures, ADP data

[Elaine Sui]

*$HOWMETHEMONEY :):)

Elaine*

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 8:56 PM, Petualang Saham
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Smg EREKSI-nya kuat sampai CLOSING & nular BEI.
> Tanda Alam BULLISH nih.
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "JsxTrader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > US STOCKS-Market opens higher on Fed measures, ADP data
> > 30 Juli 2008 20:30:39 (GMT+07:00)
> > Provided by: Reuters News
> > (Updates to open)
> >
> > NEW YORK, July 30 (Reuters) - Wall Street rose at the open on Wednesday
> > after a report showed private employers unexpectedly added jobs in
> July and
> > the Federal Reserve said it would extend a measure to boost liquidity in
> > turbulent financial markets.
> >
> > The Dow Jones industrial average <.DJI> was up 71.73 points, or 0.63
> > percent, at 11,469.29. The Standard & Poor's 500 Index <.SPX> was up
> 5.68
> > points, or 0.45 percent, at 1,268.88. The Nasdaq Composite Index
> <.IXIC> was
> > up 9.50 points, or 0.41
> >
> > percent, at 2,329.12.
> >
> > (Reporting by Kristina Cooke; Editing by Kenneth Barry)
> >
>
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[obrolan-bandar] So happy happy happy

[Elaine Sui]

*Elaine $ui*
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Akhirnya Ngalamin Bullish Juga - Not yet Bullish Om

[Elaine Sui]

*I have no idea what you're talking about. Just look at your portfolio, if
it's positive then you're smart. If it isn't then you're not THAT smart. So
far I'm quite happy with mine.

How's yours?

Elaine**
*
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Bearish Forever <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  to Elaine and others Smart investor.
>
> Jadi hari ini yg Sell termasuk golongan idiot, dan yg Buy termasuk
> Einstein?
>
> -_-"
>
>
>
> --- On *Thu, 7/31/08, Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
> From: Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Akhirnya Ngalamin Bullish Juga
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 7:13 PM
>
>   Cara pikir pak SB ini yg saya paling suka...bravo pak!!! Yg newbie2,
> muda2..PLEASE take notice.
>
> - Original Message 
> From: SbudianaY <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com.sg>
> To: Obrolan Bandar 
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:49:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Akhirnya Ngalamin Bullish Juga
>
>
> Tks GOD HMin, prinsip sy mah harga turun, belanja kumpulin barang, naik TP,
> as simple as that, easy kan, terserah org mo bilang apa kek bahkan sering di
> ejek terutama oleh ahli2 TA yg baru yg msh muda2 yg kebetulan lagi hoki aja,
> jd kebetulan ramalannya lg benar, tapi prinsip sy yg sdh puluhan th tak
> trgoyahkan EGP.
> Saya kan sharing se jujur nya, apa adanya, tanpa maksud mau jualan ilmu,
> seperti yg suka nyindir dan ngejek, emang jujur ngomong ga punya ilmu kok,
> krn memang jg ga ada ilmu yg bisa tau pasti harga mau kemana, ngapain
> repot2, makanya yg percaya silahkan, nga percaya, I don't care Hehehe.
>
> Good Luck,
>
> SB
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry (R) wireless device
>
> --
> *From*: "Halim Mintareja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>
> *Date*: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:13:12 +0700
> *To*: 
> *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Akhirnya Ngalamin Bullish Juga
>
> He.he
>
> Pak SB coan banyak hari ini...
>
> lihat retail pada beringas..pak SB pada PT sana sini :))
>
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:55 PM, SbudianaY <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com.sg<[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> Tar tunggu turun lagi baru rame2 ramalannya balek ke 2000, Kalo lg naek
>> ramalannya balek naek ke 2500, naek terus lama an aja ramalan bisa nambah ke
>> 2800 dan begitu selanjutnya yg sy ikuti cara peramal2 itu sampe sdh berpuluh
>> th tapi anehnya tetap aja org ikutin terus, sampe uda pd nyungsep baru
>> sadar, tapi sebelumnya kok jarang yg sadar yah, bahwa semua ramalan ga ada
>> kepastiannya, kacian dan cape deh.
>>
>> SB
>>
>>
>> Sent from my BlackBerry (R) wireless device
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: "JsxTrader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>>
>> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:23:43
>> To: >
>> Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Akhirnya Ngalamin Bullish Juga
>>
>>
>> Positive Divergence, G-String (Victory formation), NEW Inflow Mbah, DOW
>> IJO,
>> etc, etc, masih ada yg penasaran mau ke <2000??
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
>> [mailto:obrolan-bandar@
>> yahoogroups. com ]
>> On Behalf Of abdulrahim abdulrahim
>> Sent: 31 Juli 2008 10:03
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: The Secret to Analyzing Volume

[Elaine Sui]

*Good for me.

Elaine**
*
2008/8/3 jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Gimana NASIB BUMI dan IHSG minggu depan pake teori "The Secret
> to Analysing Volume" ?.
>
> IS IT GOING TO BE GOOD or BAD ?
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "JsxTrader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Great posting Pak.., Setuju bahwa volume is one of the most
> important study
> > dalam menganalisa market. Sayangnya banyak yg lebih memperhatikan
> pergerakan
> > harga dari pada pergerakan volume.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sedikit menambahkan.., Volume merupakan satu-satunya Indikator
> Teknikal yang
> > memiliki hubungan sebab-akibat dengan harga., Harga akan bergerak
> karena
> > adanya tekanan (force).., tekanan tersebut adalah trading
> volume.., trading
> > volume terjadi karena adanya fluktuasi dari supply & demand.., dan
> fluktuasi
> > supply and demand disebabkan karena adanya Fear & Greed.
> >
> >
> >
> > Pergerakan harga, baik naik maupun turun, yang tidak disertai
> dengan
> > konfirmasi volume adalah pergerakan yg tidak real (unnatural)..,
> kenapa
> > begitu? karena 'sebab'-nya tidak jelas. Dan pergerakan yg tidak
> real tsb
> > tidak akan bertahan lama.., contoh sudah banyak.., misalnya di
> bumi, ptba,
> > crude oil, etc.
> >
> >
> >
> > Bagi saya.., sekali lagi.., bagi saya, Volume bukan sekedar untuk
> > mengkonfirmasi arah trend, tapi bisa dipakai sebagai LEADING
> indicator yg
> > dapat dipergunakan untuk memprediksi arah trend. Disamping itu
> Volume juga
> > bisa dipergunakan untuk mengukur kekuatan suatu level support dan
> > resistance.
> >
> >
> >
> > Salam,
> >
> > JsxTrader
> >
> >
> >
> > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf Of Pengamat Market
> > Sent: 03 Agustus 2008 11:25
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] The Secret to Analyzing Volume
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dow Theory memandang volume sebagai salah satu hal yang penting
> dalam Market
> > Analysis.
> > Volume dalam hal ini adalah jumlah transaksi dalam suatu periode
> waktu
> > perdagangan (1 jam, 4 jam, daily, weekly,etc). Volume dapat juga
> menunjukkan
> > total transaksi lot yang diperdagangkan.
> >
> > Volume menggambarkan kekuatan tekanan antara supply dan demand
> pada waktu
> > terjadi pergerakan harga. Pertempuran antara supply dan demand ini
> > menunjukkan adanya kekuatan minat beli dan jual di market.
> >
> > Volume tidak digunakan untuk memprediksi arah trend, tapi
> digunakan untuk
> > mengkonfirmasi pergerakan harga. Dow mengatakan bahwa "Volume must
> confirm
> > the trends". Selain untuk mengkonfirmasi adanya minat beli/jual
> yang kuat
> > atau tidak Dow mencoba mengingatkan kepada kita bahwa tanpa
> didukung adanya
> > volume yang cukup kita tidak harus mempercayai arah gerakan dari
> market.
> >
> > Kesimpulan awalnya adalah Volume dapat digunakan untuk
> mengkonfirmasi arah
> > trends atau dapat digunakan untuk menunjukkan bahwa trend yang
> terjadi akan
> > berlanjut (continuation) atau akan berakhir
> (flat,ranging,reversal).
> >
> > Menurut Dow, volume mengikuti arah dari trend yang terjadi. Ketika
> terjadi
> > kondisi trend bullish seharusnya diikuti oleh volume yang terus
> meningkat.
> > Pada saat terjadi koreksi /reversal biasanya ditandai oleh
> penurunan volume.
> > Jika pada kondisi trend bullish yang ekstrem terjadi penurunan
> volume, maka
> > secara tidak langsung mengindikasikan akan terjadi
> koreksi/reversal trend
> >
> > Kondisi ini biasa disebut dengan convergence/divergence.
> > Convergence terjadi ketika pada kondisi trend bullish volume juga
> meningkat
> > demikian sebaliknya
> > Sedang divergence terjadi jika pada kondisi trend bearish volume
> justru
> > mengalami penurunan. Kondisi ini yang harus diwaspadai karena
> penurunan
> > minat beli (buying pressure) dapat memicu adanya reversal trend
> >
> > Berikut gambar grafik convergence pada ANTM
> >
> 
> >
> > Pola divergence pada BUMI (Bandar Play's)
> >
> >    1.jpg
> >
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: FW: [Milis-AATI] IHSG ke 2400 terus 2500 (ceterus paribus)

[Elaine Sui]

*The choice is mine.

Elaine**
**Story Maker**
*
2008/8/2 oentoeng_qq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Frendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > bandar BEI sampai kapan pingin nurunin indeks pak oen ?
> > trus kapan juga mau stop turunin nya ??
> > depresi juga nih nunggu nya
> >
>
> Nggak ada yg  nyuruh untuk nunggu lho pak...
> Dan ngapain ditunggu?
>
> Kemarin ketika den BEI masih di level 2400 saya memberi "clue" akan
> turun 200 point, sekarang ANDA ingin minta NAIK/TURUN berapa point?
> Ntar saya sampaikan ke OB yaitu Om Bandar...hahaha...
> Just kidding lho pak.
>
> Bagi saya, lebih penting kita tahu "hukum alam" yg berlaku sekarang
> APA?
>
> Yaitu; "AYAM akan kembali menjadi TELOR, sedangkan TELOR sedang
> proses akan menjadi AYAM"
>
> Very SIMPLE...
> Nggak perlu analisa yg canggih maupun rumit, karena waktu kecil pun
> sudah menghadapi kalimat model begini.
>
> Simple CASE;
> Kejadian yg MENONJOL Jum'at kemarin adalah TURUNnya BUMI dan NAIKnya
> JSMR.
>
> Apakah BUMI saat ini di harga 6150 sudah MURAH?
> Karena sudah DROP 2600 perak dari harga 8750.
> Anggapan itu TIDAK sepenuhnya BENAR!?
>
> Demikian JSMR pada harga 1350 apakah sudah MAHAL?
> Karena sudah NAIK 290 perak dari harga LOWEST 1060.
> Anggapan itu TIDAK sepenuhnya SALAH!?
>
> Yang jelas BUMI pada awal tahun (2/1/08) closing pd harga 6000
> sedangkan JSMR pd tgl yg SAMA berada pd harga 1930!
> Silahkan PANDANGAN masing2 menentukan mana AYAM dan mana yg TELOR???
>
>
> The CHOICE is YOURS...
>
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: The Secret to Analyzing Volume

[Elaine Sui]

*cuz I only have small portions of energy/agri stocks. Wait, I did share my
2H08 overview here, didn't I? Maybe Embah should share your thought on your
portfolio design, Kang Ocoy? ANYONE?

Anyone still overweight with energy/agri stocks? This is open discussion.
Feel free to join.

Elaine**
*
On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 2:08 PM, jsx_consultant <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Elaine Sui"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > *Good for me.
> >
> > Elaine**
> > *
>
> Glad to hear it...
> Any particular reason for your optimism ?
>
> Embah is wondering why there are so many COMMODITY EMITENS
> has NOT publicise their H1 result ?. Is it BAD ?.
>
> But BUMI has given it's rough result, it is good, isn't it ?.
>
> Kang Ocoy, please advice..
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[obrolan-bandar] My deepest condolences to energy/agri stocks owners

[Elaine Sui]

*
You have my sympathy. I hope you will get your money back in the next ten
thousand years. ^_^

Elaine*
<>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: 2222 / 2233 let see

[Elaine Sui]

*ha ha ha COOL. What a couple. ^_^

Elaine**
*
2008/8/4 hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "JsxTrader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > 2232
> >
> maunya angka damai
> ( + 2232) / 2 = 2227 PAS kan...
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[obrolan-bandar] Mau hijau tidak?

[Elaine Sui]

*Elaine mau coba jadi copet.. jangan di arrest ya ^_^' V just testing my
luck that's all.

Elaine*

[obrolan-bandar] Warning: IDX infrastructure under attack

[Elaine Sui]

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Warning: IDX infrastructure under attack

[Elaine Sui]

*Seems purely technical issue. So keep it that way.

Elaine*

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:35 AM, jko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Mbah, boleh minta penjelasan dari sisi bandarmologi / consp theory?
>
>>  _,_._,___
>>
>
>
>
> --
> An expert with a stone can still beat a novice with a shuriken,
> nevertheless, an expert with a stone can not beat 100 novices with 100
> shurikens... 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] DJ MARKET TALK: Citi Cuts Bumi Target To IDR8,300; Keeps Buy

[Elaine Sui]

*THERE YOU ARE. SO FRICKIN LATE. Harga sudah drops like -30% baru berani
downgrade. Merrill, UBS, I'm waiting... ^_^

Elaine**
*
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  DJ MARKET TALK: Citi Cuts Bumi Target To IDR8,300; Keeps Buy
>
> 0154 GMT [Dow Jones] STOCK CALL: Citigroup keeps coal miner Bumi Resources
> (BUMI.JK) at Buy, but cuts target price to IDR8,300 from IDR9,600 after
> lowering 2008-2010 earnings forecasts by 6-12% following weak 1H numbers.
> Says recent sell-off in shares has resulted in an undemanding 8.2X 2009 PE,
> which partly reflects its view that coal price upside is main driver for
> Bumi's earnings, share price. Shares last end down 4.9% at IDR5,850.(IMS)
> Contact us in Singapore. 65 64154 140; [EMAIL PROTECTED] (END) Dow
> Jones Newswires August 04, 2008 21:54 ET (01:54 GMT) Copyright (c) 2008 Dow
> Jones & Company, Inc.- - 09 54 PM EDT 08-04-08
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] bumi bisa 10000, dgn catatan.....

[Elaine Sui]

*No. Thanks.

Elaine**
*
2008/8/5 sultan qatar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>  Ane mendasarkan :
> 1. hasil riset analyst- foreign, ML yang bilang Buy, justru ane sell.
> karena sudah turun tajam ane buy. shohib ane sudah ane contact. dia
> tertaraik.
> 2. hampir seluruh FM besar infonya pegang BUMI di urutan I-3. jadi save,
> temannya mikir banyak.
> 3. BUMI=PERSEPSINYA SUDAH MURAH
> 4. EMBAH SUDAH KOMANDO BUY.
>
> Kalau ente tidak percaya jual saja. ane siap nampung.
> PERCAYA BOLEH , TIDAK PERCAYA TIDAK APA-APA.
>
> SYUKRON
>
>
> Pada tanggal 05/08/08, ki_4ever888 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
>
>>  mimpi kali yeh hahahhahaha...
>>
>> ya bisa koq bumi 1 dgn catatan bumi turun ampe 3300, then stock
>> reverse 3:1 huahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahahah :P
>>
>> --- On *Tue, 8/5/08, sultan qatar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: sultan qatar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI: Critical Support = GOCENG
>> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 3:01 AM
>>
>>   Ini minggu kelima BUMI turun.
>> Minggu keenam, BUMI akan Naik dan naiknya bisa melebihi yang pernah
>> dicapai.
>> TP I = 7500. mungkin setelah itu 8500-10.000
>>
>>
>> Percaya Boleh, Tidak Percaya Tidak Apa-apa
>>
>>
>> Pada tanggal 05/08/08, sultan qatar <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com<[EMAIL 
>> PROTECTED]>>
>> menulis:
>>>
>>> Mbah, Ane minta maaf karena pernah kasih rekomen sell BUMI.
>>>
>>> Tapi, Ane lihat penurunan ini sudah cukup.
>>> Karena Ane penganut Kontrarian
>>> Berita jelek semua sekarang yang keluar tentang BUMI n sektornya plus
>>> inflasi n BI Rate
>>>
>>> Maka mulai hari ini, Ane BUY BUMI. BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY
>>>
>>> Insya Allah. BUMI bakal ke 7.500, dan akan naik barengan sama
>>> PTBA,INCO,ANTM dkk.
>>>
>>> Syukron
>>>
>>>
>>> 2008/8/5, jsx_consultant 
>>> >:

   5000 merupakan level KRITIS bagi BUMI, jika tembus bakalam
 banyak LONG TERM INVESTOR yg bakal dapet barang murah...

 Mudah mudahan sebelum 5000 udah rebound

 http://www.invest20 00.net/pwlbumi. 
 png



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA +6% , semuanya akan menjadi INDAH

[Elaine Sui]

*I'm generally bearish on some sectors [energy/agri] while bullish/defensive
on others [financials/property/construction/telecomms]. If you still can get
some profit in bearish market [i.e. exploiting the technical rebounds], then
I'm happy for you too, means you have what it takes to be the OB general and
also a great trader yourself.

Salute to you, Embah. Please take care of your... followers.

PS: Kalau energy/agri turun lagi, Elaine tidak lagi bilang "I told you"..
cuz.. I'told you too much.. lololol, Elaine juga suka sector ini that's why
I want a HUGE discount. That's right. I want them as cheap as possible.

Elaine**
*

2008/8/7 jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> PTBA +6%
>
> Bozz SAAT INI naekin PTBA, kamaren PGAS daN MEDC... (LOH
> kok commodity yg NAEK ?)
>
> Jangan bingung, BOZZ akan mengatur segalanya.. semuanya
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: beli AALI oiii hehehhehe

[Elaine Sui]

*Embah tahu saja.. hihi.. tunggu sebentar lagi at least  -10% from now,
kalau mau murah jangan tanggung. Mega dis'frickin'count. Mau beli sekarang
juga tidak apa, investors only.

Elaine**
*
2008/8/7 jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> BOZZ baek banget, investor SEJATI pada dikasih barang murah
>
> EL lama lama ngiler juga engga tahan deh
>
> Atau mau nunggu teknologi baru yaitu SAAT ceplok telor engga usah
> pake minyak goreng tapi pake oli bekas yg
> di recycle...hehehe...
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vincent Chase
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > sy collect,soalnya dah gak tahan lagi harga cantik dr pd gak dapet
> >
> > abdulrahim abdulrahim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote: On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 8:23 AM,
> Vincent Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  > berhubung dgn datangnnya 3 hari raya , sy collect AALI
> >
> >  Masih lama khan hari raya nya?
> >  Sabaran dikit lagi, biar gak diketawain Elaine ^_^
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI Hajar Kanan

[Elaine Sui]

*NAKAL YA!

^_^

Elaine**
*
2008/8/7 jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Yanuar Mustofa
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Mbah..maap baru mulai serbu 15.19 bukan 15.00
> >
> > menurut penggaris goceng bisa hajar kanan atau ada tukang copet neh
> mbah.
> >
> > Elaineee tangannya rantai aja make rantai kapal mbah...
> >
>
> Embah punyanya borgol ama pecut...hihihi...
> Tapi EL maunya maen kuda kudaan...
>
> just.kidding.com...
>
>
>
> > yg punya BUMI mulai termehek-mehek neh..
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message 
> > From: Yanuar Mustofa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, 7 August 2008 2:40:07
> > Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: beli AALI oiii hehehhehe
> >
> >
> > hehehehehehe..
> >
> > terus mbah..terus mbah..komporin terus.
> > ampe 15.37 transaksi BUMI blm sampe 0.5 T
> >
> > siap2 BUMI dikerek jam 3
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message 
> > From: jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, 7 August 2008 2:34:15
> > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: beli AALI oiii hehehhehe
> >
> >
> > BOZZ baek banget, investor SEJATI pada dikasih barang murah
> >
> > EL lama lama ngiler juga engga tahan deh
> >
> > Atau mau nunggu teknologi baru yaitu SAAT ceplok telor engga usah
> > pake minyak goreng tapi pake oli bekas yg
> > di recycle...hehehe. ..
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Vincent Chase
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > sy collect,soalnya dah gak tahan lagi harga cantik dr pd gak dapet
> > >
> > > abdulrahim abdulrahim 
> > wrote: On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 8:23 AM,
> > Vincent Chase  wrote:
> > >  > berhubung dgn datangnnya 3 hari raya , sy collect AALI
> > >
> > >  Masih lama khan hari raya nya?
> > >  Sabaran dikit lagi, biar gak diketawain Elaine ^_^
> > >
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: SERBU (2160)

[Elaine Sui]

*Just enjoy while you can today. ^_^

Elaine**
*
2008/8/8 oentoeng_qq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"  [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > IHSG saat ini 2208
> >
> > MEDC, PGAS, PTBA, BUMI udah pada naek SATU SATU
> >
> > BOZZ kalo lagi maen pada masa 'PACEKLIK' (=downtrend), maen
> > nya SATU SATU, jadi wajar aja... kalo lagi 'PANEN' (=uptrend)
> > bisa maen gaya ORGI (=rame rame)...
> >
> > Jadi RELAX aja, semuanya akan JADI INDAH...
> >
> > Portfolio EL juga nanti 'DIGILIR' ama BOZZ... sabar aja
> > sesuai schedule kalo menurut Bozz Analysis/BA (hasil analisa
> > embah) atau Bozz Agenda/BA kalo pake istilah Pak Oentoeng
> > (hasil ngintip agenda Bozz)...
> >
> > Betoel engga pak oentoeng ?.
> >
>
> Jawabannya, Embah emang masih yg PALING TOPPP deh!
>
> Sedikit tambahan utk "blueprint" dari BA.
> SIMPLE aja; "yang TINGGI (masih)akan TURUN sedangkan yg RENDAH
> pengennya (tetep) terus NAIK"
> Sama juga seperti clue terdahulu; beginian ANAK KECIL juga TAHU...
>
>
> > BOZZ punya target ampe akhir tahun, kalo engga capai target,
> > bisa RUNYAM benar kan Bozz ?.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"  > consultant@> wrote:
> > >
> > > IHSG close di 2185 atau naik +25 dari judul
> > >
> > > Eropa dan DF Future udah NGACENG karena harga minyak angin
> > > udah naek... hihihi...
> > >
> > > Besok kita TERUSIN SERBU...
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Vic" 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > dow fut +66.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, hidayat.ardiansyah
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 5250 masih ditahan terus. semoga ga jebol. =)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -HA-
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8/5/08, JsxTrader  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   I see "Volume of the Bottom" Mbah..., tanda-tanda sell of
> > BUMI
> > > > hampir
> > > > > > selesai, konfirmasinya besok. Semoga...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JsxTrader
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > [mailto:
> > > > > > obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com  > > 40yahoogroups.com>]
> > > > > > On Behalf Of jsx_consultant
> > > > > > Sent: 05 Agustus 2008 14:54
> > > > > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com  > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] SERBU (2160)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > SERBU (2160)
> > > > > >
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[obrolan-bandar] Sudah puas dengan coal?

[Elaine Sui]

*Kalau belum puas, ada chance mau dapat lebih murah masih bisa. We're not
just riding the wave, we're riding the lightning. appp ur dead. hihi ^_^

Elaine*

Re: [obrolan-bandar] TO Elaine

[Elaine Sui]

*Told me what? That is so freaking immature behavior, a common trait of
newbies.

Elaine**
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On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 3:10 PM, hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> keluarin jurus I TOLD YOU
> SEKARANG!!!..
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Sudah puas dengan coal?

[Elaine Sui]

*Well, it's ok then, if you say so. :) Happy weekend, guys.

Elaine**
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On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Aria Bela Nusa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> YUP - don't deny the tape readings - all is number, fact in the market -
> it's better to follows them always as foot-prints of them
>
> Happy Chuan,
>
> Aria
>
>
> > Tapi Satria Baja Hitam RX nggak main-main kayaknya Net Buy BUMI sampe
> more
> > than 300B ...
> > What do you think friends ?
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] beli atau akumulasi semua

[Elaine Sui]

*How do you know that? tell me.. what did they colllect? Tell us some
detail, size, sector, whatever.

Thanks a lot. :)

Elaine**
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2008/8/9 kangduren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> petunjuk :
> FM besar kolek pada saat market sedang lesu.
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Oil Geopolitics - August 8

[Elaine Sui]

*Like it or not, mr. market is always right. I believe there is a saying
"price discounts everything" which means mr. market is ALWAYS trying
to ANTICIPATE
anything int the FUTURE (fundamentals, rumors, even the underlying commodity
price). It's called PERCEPTION.

So $115 oil today is PERCEIVED DIFFERENTLY than 4 months ago. That's why
there are recognizable chart pattern. Head n shoulder. Double tops. Cup n
handle. Flags. Wedges. Elliot waves. That's from the technical alone. (I
don't rely too much on it though)

Tetapi kalau Embah mau keep cmdty, Elaine tidak larang kalau buat long, go
ahead dear.. tetapi kalau jual juga announce ke group, jangan serbu saja.
Ayo yang lain ikut Embah.

Elaine tidak ikut, for now. Nanti kalau sudah punya baru flame di OB lagi..
ha ha ha..

Elaine**
*


On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 11:53 PM, jsx_consultant <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Memang kalo enak diversifikasi begitu sih Mbah tapi gain bisa2 jadi
> flat lho krn 1 sisi naik, 1 sisi turun...(komoditi vs non-komoditi)
> kecuali kalo ihsg naik (krn minyak turun, mis.), semua saham ikut
> naik termasuk saham komoditi (euphoria pasar). Kemarin2 minyak turun,
> ptba dan bumi malah naik ya...nggak ngerti deh, ujung2nya semua
> terserah Bozz dah...
> > Ma kasih Mbah. Good night!
> >
>
> Coba dicheck KALO BELON NGANTUK:
> - Anggap minyak turun ke $100.
> - Dulu lagi minyak $100, check harga saham commodity, bandingkan
>  dengan harga saham commodity Jumat sore. Harga sekarang udah lebih
>  rendah kan?, padahal minyak hari jumat sore WIB masih $119.
>  Jadi harga saham Commodity udah KEMURAHAN padahal minyaknya
>  belon ampe $100. Jadi saham commodity LAGI DIGEBUG tapi
>  bukan pake DUIT tapi pake FEAR yg DISEBARKAN dimedia termasuk
>  dimilis OB.
>
> Note:
> - Commodity ada yg Renewable dan ada yg tidak. Minyak, batubara,
>  tembaga, emas tidak bisa diproduksi, jika cadangannya makin
>  sedikit harga akan naik terus.
> - Berbeda dengan jagung, jika harga jagung naik, petani bisa
>  menghasilkan jagung dalam 3 bulan sudah panen, dihalaman
>  rumah aja kita bisa namam jagung. Jadi jangan harap harga
>  jagung akan tetap tinggi. Kelapa sawit juga bisa ditanam tapi
>  perlu waktu 5 tahun. Pergerakan harga saat ini dominan
>  unsur PERMAINAN doang.
> - Base metal yg cadangannya banyak dan tersebar didunia, harganya
>  akan berfluktuasi sangat besar.Ketika harga base metal naik,
>  semua berlomba lomba menambang, produksi naik,akhirnya harga
>  jatuh dan tidak tutup ongkos, mereka bangkrut dan
>  harganya naik lagi.
>  Kejadian ini tidak akan terjadi seperti pada emas dan tembaga,
>  harganya kan tetap tinggi dan cenderung naik terus dari
>  tahun ketahun...
>
>
> >
> >
> > - Original Message 
> > From: jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, August 9, 2008 11:07:29 PM
> > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Oil Geopolitics - August 8
> >
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Rei 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Mbah memang dapat apa nih kalo porto banking Elaine muncrat?
> > >
> >
> > Mau tau AJAH... hehehe...
> >
> > Sekarang keadaan ekonomi dunia masih gonjang ganjing, jadi
> > diversifikasi aja seperti portofolio EL, ada sektor commodity,
> > banking, infrastruktur dll... liat grafik yg dikirim EL...
> >
> > Jadi minyak naek atau turun, RELAX aja.
> >
> > Logikanya begini:
> > - Minyak turun ke $100:
> > - Sektor Commodity memang akan kena imbas kalo minyak turun tapi
> > harga saham commodity udah MURAH BANGET, jadi kalo minyak turun
> > ke $100 (toh $100 JUGA MASIH mahal). Coba liat harga saham commodity
> > saat minyak harganya $100, bandingkan dengan harga saham hari
> > ini . Terlihat harga saham commodity saat INI udah
> > OVERSHOOT KEMURAHAN. Jadi
> > kalo minyak naek lagi maka sahamnya kan naik tinggi..
> > - Jika minyak turun, inflasi dan suku bunga akan turun, dan
> > otomatis Saham dan IHSG akan naik.
> > - Minyak naik lagi ke $140:
> > Saham commodity dan IHSG akan naik lagi.
> >
> > Jadi minyak naik atau turun, IHSG akan tetap naik
> >
> > Coba perhatikan di www.obrolanbandar. com dimenu reksadana,
> > terlihat pada hari Jumat, gain reksadana MIXED ada yang
> > positif dan ada yg negatif ketika minyak dan commodity BERGERAK.
> >
> > JADI kalo engga mau pusing, beli aja Reksadana yg komposisi
> > portfolionya mirip usulan Elaine...
> >
>
>
>
> 
>
> + +
> + + + + +
> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> + + + + +
> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Oil Geopolitics - August 8

[Elaine Sui]

*Oh really? dimana EMBAH when bumi dropped from 8500 to <6000? Everyone was
looking for his guidance. Mungkin embah sakit atau sedang holiday ke macau,
I dunno :)

Elaine*

On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 10:49 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Spt BD pd umumnya, kalo lg akumulasi pasti diam seribu bahasa. Kalo udh
> loaded, baru ngoceh..
>
> Analisa mbah sgt bagus dan FAIR, krn menceritakan yg sesungguhnya tanpa
> intrik.. Decision is yours..
>
> Beda kan?
>
>
> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry(R)
>
> ------
> *From*: "Elaine Sui" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *Date*: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 10:33:46 +0700
> *To*: 
> *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Oil Geopolitics - August 8
>
> *Like it or not, mr. market is always right. I believe there is a saying
> "price discounts everything" which means mr. market is ALWAYS trying to 
> ANTICIPATE
> anything int the FUTURE (fundamentals, rumors, even the underlying
> commodity price). It's called PERCEPTION.
>
> So $115 oil today is PERCEIVED DIFFERENTLY than 4 months ago. That's why
> there are recognizable chart pattern. Head n shoulder. Double tops. Cup n
> handle. Flags. Wedges. Elliot waves. That's from the technical alone. (I
> don't rely too much on it though)
>
> Tetapi kalau Embah mau keep cmdty, Elaine tidak larang kalau buat long, go
> ahead dear.. tetapi kalau jual juga announce ke group, jangan serbu saja.
> Ayo yang lain ikut Embah.
>
> Elaine tidak ikut, for now. Nanti kalau sudah punya baru flame di OB lagi..
> ha ha ha..
>
> Elaine**
> *
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 11:53 PM, jsx_consultant <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Memang kalo enak diversifikasi begitu sih Mbah tapi gain bisa2 jadi
>> flat lho krn 1 sisi naik, 1 sisi turun...(komoditi vs non-komoditi)
>> kecuali kalo ihsg naik (krn minyak turun, mis.), semua saham ikut
>> naik termasuk saham komoditi (euphoria pasar). Kemarin2 minyak turun,
>> ptba dan bumi malah naik ya...nggak ngerti deh, ujung2nya semua
>> terserah Bozz dah...
>> > Ma kasih Mbah. Good night!
>> >
>>
>> Coba dicheck KALO BELON NGANTUK:
>> - Anggap minyak turun ke $100.
>> - Dulu lagi minyak $100, check harga saham commodity, bandingkan
>>  dengan harga saham commodity Jumat sore. Harga sekarang udah lebih
>>  rendah kan?, padahal minyak hari jumat sore WIB masih $119.
>>  Jadi harga saham Commodity udah KEMURAHAN padahal minyaknya
>>  belon ampe $100. Jadi saham commodity LAGI DIGEBUG tapi
>>  bukan pake DUIT tapi pake FEAR yg DISEBARKAN dimedia termasuk
>>  dimilis OB.
>>
>> Note:
>> - Commodity ada yg Renewable dan ada yg tidak. Minyak, batubara,
>>  tembaga, emas tidak bisa diproduksi, jika cadangannya makin
>>  sedikit harga akan naik terus.
>> - Berbeda dengan jagung, jika harga jagung naik, petani bisa
>>  menghasilkan jagung dalam 3 bulan sudah panen, dihalaman
>>  rumah aja kita bisa namam jagung. Jadi jangan harap harga
>>  jagung akan tetap tinggi. Kelapa sawit juga bisa ditanam tapi
>>  perlu waktu 5 tahun. Pergerakan harga saat ini dominan
>>  unsur PERMAINAN doang.
>> - Base metal yg cadangannya banyak dan tersebar didunia, harganya
>>  akan berfluktuasi sangat besar.Ketika harga base metal naik,
>>  semua berlomba lomba menambang, produksi naik,akhirnya harga
>>  jatuh dan tidak tutup ongkos, mereka bangkrut dan
>>  harganya naik lagi.
>>  Kejadian ini tidak akan terjadi seperti pada emas dan tembaga,
>>  harganya kan tetap tinggi dan cenderung naik terus dari
>>  tahun ketahun...
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > - Original Message 
>> > From: jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>> > Sent: Saturday, August 9, 2008 11:07:29 PM
>> > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Oil Geopolitics - August 8
>> >
>> >
>> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Rei 
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Mbah memang dapat apa nih kalo porto banking Elaine muncrat?
>> > >
>> >
>> > Mau tau AJAH... hehehe...
>> >
>> > Sekarang keadaan ekonomi dunia masih gonjang ganjing, jadi
>> > diversifikasi aja seperti portofolio EL, ada sektor commodity,
>> > banking, infrastruktur dll... liat grafik yg dikirim EL...
>> >
>> > Jadi minyak naek atau turun, RELAX aja.
>> >
>> > Logikanya begini:
>> > - Minyak turun ke $100:
>> > - Sektor Commod

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Cara Kapitalis Merampas Negara

[Elaine Sui]

*Well, do you think the attack of Pearl
Harborwas
real? If the japs were so evil, why is Japan the biggest economy in
Asia
first? Jew massacre by nazis. WTC 9/11. Saddam's WOMD.

No offense, but if US didn't nuke Japan, you guys will be speaking japanese
right now. We're living in the world of propaganda.

Elaine**
*
2008/8/10 Saham Oke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>  Menarik nihh tuk kenali startegi2 kapitalis tuk cuan gede di
> saham.kal.:-)
>
> Jakarta (ANTARA News) - "Siapa pun yang ingin mengetahui apa yang
> sesungguhnya terjadi di dunia, mesti segera membaca buku ini."
>
> Itulah komentar majalah Rolling Stone tentang buku "The Shock Doctrine; The
> Rise of Disaster Capitalism" karangan wartawati Kanada, Naomi Klein, yang
> diterbitkan Penguin Books, London, Inggris (2007).
>
> Info lengkap:
> http://www.antara.co.id/arc/2008/8/6/cara-kapitalis-merampas-negara/
>
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] To ALL SENIOR : SUPER CRASH NEXT WEEK !?!?!?!?!

[Elaine Sui]

*Ha ha ha enak saja. You just cut your losses terus mau crash? lol
everything minus agri/energy are bullish.. that's for sure.

Stress my friend? Instead of trading stocks, I suggest you better quit and
spend your whatever you have left to get a yoga class or something.. :P ask
Frendy to join you, you both have something in common..

You asked me about it in the long run? well,  I run long and far far away
from it... LLOOLL..

Elaine*

On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Pemain Mini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  any comment ? El, Mr Oen, Mbah, Mr DE ?
> or any other.
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: To ALL SENIOR : SUPER CRASH NEXT WEEK !?!?!?!?!

[Elaine Sui]

*
You're abusing the emoticons.

Elaine**
*
2008/8/10 edwinkdr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
> OOT Sejenak:-)
> Melepas ketegangan.
> menjelang OPENING besok senin;-)
>
>
> Preman dan Pemuda Pemberani
>
> Suatu hari seorang preman mendekati 4 orang pemuda yang lagi duduk di
> kedai nasi untuk meminta uang secara paksa.
>
> Lalu sang preman mencoba menggerak mereka, "SIAPA YANG BERANI DI SINI??"
>
> Seorang pemuda berdiri dan berkata, "SAYA BERANI!"
>
> Preman itu menggertak sekali lagi, "AYO! SIAPA LAGI YANG BERANI??!"
>
> Pemuda berikutnya berdiri dan berkata, "SAYA JUGA BERANI!!"
>
> Preman itu mulai gentar, tapi dia terus menggertak, "SIAPA LAGI??!"
>
> Dua pemuda berikutnya berdiri dan berkata, "KAMI BERANI!"
>
> Preman itu pun ciut nyalinya dan berkata, "KALAU BEGITU KITA ADALAH 5
> ORANG PEMUDA PEMBERANI!!"
>
>
> Laki-laki Menggunakan Logika Wanita Menggunakan Perasaan
>
> "Menurutku, kaum wanita menggunakan logikanya hanya 25% dan
> menggunakan perasaannya 75%, sedangkan kaum pria kebalikannya."
>
> "Apa buktinya?"
>
> "Seorang ibu akan menangis dulu jika melihat anaknya jatuh dan
> kepalanya bocor. Setelah menangis, baru logikanya jalan, yaitu
> buru-buru membawanya ke dokter. Tapi seorang pria tidak begitu. Begitu
> melihat anaknya jatuh dan kepalanya bocor, ia langsung membawanya ke
> dokter. Setelah sampai ke dokter barulah dia menangis."
>
> "Lho, kenapa menangis?"
>
> "Bayar ongkos berobat dan resep terlalu mahal."
>
>
> Dihina Karena Memiliki Anak yang Jelek Sekali
>
> Seorang wanita hendak naik bis sambil menggendong bayinya. Supir bus
> mengatakan,
>
> "Wah, bayi Anda adalah bayi yang paling jelek yang pernah saya lihat!".
>
> Wanita tadi dengan marah membanting uang ongkos bis, di kotak uang dan
> mengambil tempat duduk di belakang. Lalu dia berusaha menenang- kan
> diri. Seorang pria yang duduk di sebelahnya menyadari bahwa wanita
> tadi sedang marah, dan menanyakan apa sebabnya. Wanita tadi menjawab,
> "Supir bus itu menghinaku tadi!".
>
> Dengan bijak sang pria mengatakan,
> "Mengapa begitu? Tidak seharusnya supir bis umum seperti dia menghina
> penumpangnya".
>
> "Kau benar", kata wanita itu, "Saya akan kembali ke sana dan
> memberinya pelajaran!!!".
>
> "Ide yang bagus" kata pria itu, "Sini, biar saya yang gendong monyet Anda"
>
>
> Kisah Ayam Jago Tua dan Muda di Peternakan Ayam
>
> Ceritanya tentang sebuah peternakan ayam. Disana ada 25 Ayam betina
> dan 1 ayam jago yang umurnya sudah tua sekali. Karena merasa bahwa
> ayam jago yang sudah tua tadi sudah melewati masa suburnya, sipemilik
> peternakan memutuskan untuk membeli 1 ayam jago lagi yang masih muda.
> Tentu saja hal ini membuat si Ayam jago tua menjadi merasa tersaingi.
> Lalu terjadi percakapan seperti ini :
>
> Si Tua : "Eh, kamu jangan serakah ya. Ayam betinanya kan ada 25. Kamu
> boleh ambil yang 15 sedang aku yang 10 ekor."
> Si Muda: "Tidak bisa. Kamu kan sudah tua dan loyo. Pokoknya semua buat
> aku aja."
> Si tua : "Kalau begitu mendingan kita lomba saja. Siapa yang menang
> boleh ambil semua ayam betina yang ada di peternakan ayam ini. Yang
> kalah tidak mendapat satu ekor pun."
> Si Muda: "Boleh saja! Mau lomba apa ?"
> Si Tua : "Lomba lari."
> Si Muda: "Ok."
> Si Tua : "Lombanya 400M. tapi karena aku sudah tua, aku minta untuk
> lari dulu di depanmu 50 meter."
> Si Muda: "Boleh." (dengan penuh keyakinan).
>
> Kemudian lomba lari dimulai. Ayam jago tua lari dulu 50 meter baru
> kemudian ayam jago yang muda lari menyusul dengan kecepatan dua kali
> lipat. Eh, baru kurang 1 meter menyusul, si ayam jago muda ditembak
> langsung oleh pemilik peternakan. Apa yang di katakan pemilik
> peternakan tersebut?
>
> Pemilik : "Kurang ajar. Ini ayam jago-homo ke sepuluh yang bulan ini
> aku beli. Sukanya kejar kejar si jago tua saja."
>
>
> ...
>
> Tks
>
> Best Regards
>
>
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "JsxTrader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Yoga Class??  Hihi. EL emang paling bisa kalau ngeledek orang.. ayo
> Pak PM &
> > Pak Frendy.., lawan dong., kalau saya sih digituin malu..hehe
> (Kompor.com)
> >
> >
> >
> > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf Of Elaine Sui
> > Sent: 10 Agustus 2008 13:31
> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > Subjec

[obrolan-bandar] Shopping time!

[Elaine Sui]

*Wake up! It's shopping time!!!

Elaine*

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Shopping time!

[Elaine Sui]

*Yeah, that includes Energy stocks woohooo lol

Elaine**
*
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Elaine Sui <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> *Wake up! It's shopping time!!!
>
> Elaine*
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Shopping time!

[Elaine Sui]

*Suit yourself :)

Elaine**
*
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:26 AM, hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Elaine Sui"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > *Wake up! It's shopping time!!!
> >
> > Elaine*
> >
> NOT YET...
> A LITTLE BIT MORE
>
> NUNGGU BUMI 4xxx dulu
>
>
> 
>
> + +
> + + + + +
> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> + + + + +
> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Shopping time!

[Elaine Sui]

*I had them since January until June (1H08). 2H08 we're using different
strategy. Oh come on, didn't you read my email?

Elaine**
*
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Vincent Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>  still holding bnbr el? you r short-mid term bearish on enrgy sec yet you
> are holding bnbr?hehhe
>
>
> *Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
>  *Suit yourself :)
>
> Elaine**
> *
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:26 AM, hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Elaine Sui"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > *Wake up! It's shopping time!!!
>> >
>> > Elaine*
>> >
>> NOT YET...
>> A LITTLE BIT MORE
>>
>> NUNGGU BUMI 4xxx dulu
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> + +
>> + + + + +
>> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
>> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
>> + + + + +
>> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] To ALL SENIOR : SUPER CRASH NEXT WEEK !?!?!?!?!

[Elaine Sui]

*tsk you remind me of Simon Cowell, he always gives comments but can't even
sing. Yup! And I think you aren't that good in tape
reading<http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/message/99832>
.

Elaine**
*
2008/8/11 Aria Bela Nusa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>  YUP, Pak PM – saham2nya doi yg dipilih2nya itu jg banyakan kena2 *support
> *-nya ke bawah2 dibanding sering2an ke* Res*-nya [makanya itu – sejak dl
> saya 'udah bilang2 'ndak ada doeitnya – hanya berdebat2 (kusir) 'doang '
> aja doi + ditambah bumbu2 psikologis, sensasi2]
>
>
>
> Happy Chuan,
>
>
>
> Aria
>
>
>
> *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Pemain Mini
> *Sent:* Monday, August 11, 2008 4:55 PM
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] To ALL SENIOR : SUPER CRASH NEXT WEEK
> !?!?!?!?!
>
>
>
> kenapa sih kok gak ada yang PERCAYA sama OGUT !!??!?!!?!?!?
>
> akhirnya KEJADIAN kan !?!!?!?!?!?
>
>
>
>
>
>  - Original Message -
>
> *From:* Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 10, 2008 1:30 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] To ALL SENIOR : SUPER CRASH NEXT WEEK
> !?!?!?!?!
>
>
>
> *Ha ha ha enak saja. You just cut your losses terus mau crash? lol
> everything minus agri/energy are bullish.. that's for sure.
>
> Stress my friend? Instead of trading stocks, I suggest you better quit and
> spend your whatever you have left to get a yoga class or something.. :P ask
> Frendy to join you, you both have something in common..
>
> You asked me about it in the long run? well,  I run long and far far away
> from it... LLOOLL..
>
> Elaine*
>
> On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Pemain Mini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> any comment ? El, Mr Oen, Mbah, Mr DE ?
> or any other.
>
>
>
>   
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: To El, Greedy and Fear Balancing in the milis ...

[Elaine Sui]

*So what? tidak ada yang berani argue at that time.. at least I didn't say
buy when IDX was 2850 fgod sake.. you're not a true investor I see. True
investors don't bother tops or bottoms. Al Fatih predicted 2400-2500 yet no
one dares to complain now. Y'all are just a bunch hypocrites.

And don't tell me about that Schubert guy.. ^_^ Oh well, some cmdty stocks
are already in my target range, so happy hunting. 50% discounts as promised.
The hell with JCI.

Elaine**
*
2008/8/11 JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>  Inget banget..!!
>
>
>
> *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Rei
> *Sent:* 11 Agustus 2008 21:24
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: To El, Greedy and Fear Balancing in
> the milis ...
>
>
>
> Ingat nggak waktu crash April kemarin ada yg bilang bhw level terendah
> tahun ini ada di bulan April, nyatanya? heheh no one knows exactly, we all
> can only speculate. Teman saya ada yg bilang dalam tebak2-an kalo benar,
> paling bilang "Apa gua bilang?", kalo salah, "Market is always right"
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message 
> From: Milis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 8:35:58 PM
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: To El, Greedy and Fear Balancing in the milis
> ...
>
> mbah.. kyk nya april/mei kemaren rasanya udah bottom.. tp ternyta
> enggak juga ya .. msh lanjut skrg
>
>
>
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI ---> HAJAR KANAN BUMI + Bakrie's STOCK

[Elaine Sui]

*You're coming too, Embah? GREAT!! Everybody, let's roll!

Elaine**
*
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 10:57 AM, jsx_consultant <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Re: BUMI ---> HAJAR KANAN BUMI + Bakrie's STOCK
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Cenayank Saham
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Berdasarkan priode optimalisasi bumi, bumi lewat indikator MACD
> dalam trend turun.
> > tetapi ada indikasi divergance positif. terlihat dalam gambar
> terlampir.
> > bumi masih akan menguji level support di 5050. kalau jebol
> >
> > thx
> >
> > MyLRI
> >
> > DISCLAIMER is always ON from [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Segala sesuatu yang mungkin terjadi akibat dari hasil analisa
> ataupun
> > gossip dalam millis ini tidak manjadi tanggung jawab kami..
> > "Rencanakan keuangan anda untuk masa depan, tentukan time
> periodenya,
> > bermain yang aman lebih baik daripada yang serabutan...INVESTASI
> LEBIH
> > BAIK DARIPADA SPEKULASI.."
> >
> > Untuk menambah pengetahuan dasar s/d advance, kami mengadakan
> training khusus AGUSTUS 2008   :
> > 1. SABTU, 16.08.2008   : Dasar-dasar Ps. Modal (DDPM Batch 4).
> > (Pengajar : Bp. Sonny A. Akbar dan Juliantika H.)
> >
> > 2. SABTU, 16.08.2008   : STVM (Smart Trading in a Volatile Market
> Batch 6).
> > (Pengajar : Bp. Tasrul, Analis Teknikal, PT. Overseas Sekuritas)
> >
> > 3. SABTU, 30.08.2008   : Advance Technical Analysis (Optimasi Batch
> 5).
> > (Pengajar : Bp. Tasrul, Analis Teknikal, Overseas Sekuritas)
> >
> > 4. SABTU, 30.08.2008   : Fundamental Analysis (FA Batch 4).
> > (Pengajar : Bp. Sonny A. Akbar, Fund Manager, PT. Infinite Global
> Kapital)
> >
> > Waktu   : 09'00 – 15'00
> > Tempat (Tentative) :
> >The Tee Box Cafe, Jl. Wijaya 2 No. 123, Kebayoran baru, Jakarta
> Selatan.
> >Gladiresik Music Lab, Jl. Hang Le Kiu 2 No. 10, Kebayoran baru,
> Jakarta Selatan.
> > Biaya   : Rp. 950.000,-/1 materi/1 hari
> > Info: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
>
>
>
> 
>
> + +
> + + + + +
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>
>
>
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI ---> HAJAR KANAN BUMI + Bakrie's STOCK

[Elaine Sui]

*Embah jaga coal, Tbummers jaga metal, Dean and Vincent take care of Agris
while Jos, that Arab guy and I take care of financials and property,
together we nuke Oentoeng and his Gangsters...

Elaine**
*
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 11:21 AM, White Beauty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>  Walau minyak sudah turun 20% dari highnya dan saham komoditi hancur
> ternyata sektor banking, property dan infra juga masih saja loyo. Kalo ada
> tanda rebound begini kok kayaknya malah saham komoditi sudah murah dan akan
> kembali berjaya ya?
>
> --- On *Tue, 8/12/08, Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>*wrote:
>
> From: Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI ---> HAJAR KANAN BUMI + Bakrie's
> STOCK
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 4:14 AM
>
>   *You're coming too, Embah? GREAT!! Everybody, let's roll!
>
> Elaine**
> *
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 10:57 AM, jsx_consultant  centrin.net. id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
>> Re: BUMI ---> HAJAR KANAN BUMI + Bakrie's STOCK
>>
>> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com ,
>> Cenayank Saham
>>  wrote:
>> >
>> > Berdasarkan priode optimalisasi bumi, bumi lewat indikator MACD
>> dalam trend turun.
>> > tetapi ada indikasi divergance positif. terlihat dalam gambar
>> terlampir.
>> > bumi masih akan menguji level support di 5050. kalau jebol
>> >
>> > thx
>> >
>> > MyLRI
>> >
>> > DISCLAIMER is always ON from [EMAIL PROTECTED] com<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>and
>> Cenayank_saham@ yahoogroups. com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > Segala sesuatu yang mungkin terjadi akibat dari hasil analisa
>> ataupun
>> > gossip dalam millis ini tidak manjadi tanggung jawab kami..
>> > "Rencanakan keuangan anda untuk masa depan, tentukan time
>> periodenya,
>> > bermain yang aman lebih baik daripada yang serabutan... INVESTASI
>> LEBIH
>> > BAIK DARIPADA SPEKULASI.."
>> >
>> > Untuk menambah pengetahuan dasar s/d advance, kami mengadakan
>> training khusus AGUSTUS 2008   :
>> > 1.. SABTU, 16.08.2008   : Dasar-dasar Ps. Modal (DDPM Batch 4).
>> > (Pengajar : Bp. Sonny A. Akbar dan Juliantika H.)
>> >
>> > 2. SABTU, 16.08.2008   : STVM (Smart Trading in a Volatile Market
>> Batch 6).
>> > (Pengajar : Bp. Tasrul, Analis Teknikal, PT. Overseas Sekuritas)
>> >
>> > 3. SABTU, 30.08.2008   : Advance Technical Analysis (Optimasi Batch
>> 5).
>> > (Pengajar : Bp. Tasrul, Analis Teknikal, Overseas Sekuritas)
>> >
>> > 4. SABTU, 30.08.2008   : Fundamental Analysis (FA Batch 4).
>> > (Pengajar : Bp. Sonny A. Akbar, Fund Manager, PT. Infinite Global
>> Kapital)
>> >
>> > Waktu   : 09'00 – 15'00
>> > Tempat (Tentative) :
>> >The Tee Box Cafe, Jl. Wijaya 2 No. 123, Kebayoran baru, Jakarta
>> Selatan.
>> >Gladiresik Music Lab, Jl. Hang Le Kiu 2 No. 10, Kebayoran baru,
>> Jakarta Selatan.
>> > Biaya   : Rp. 950.000,-/1 materi/1 hari
>> > Info: Cenayank_saham@ ...
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: To : Pak Oentoeng, is it enought ????

[Elaine Sui]

*I said that, not him. Don't worry too much, it will come soon enough. Just
relax and sit tight. This -250 correction Oentoeng has been talking so much
is needed to reduce the cost of fund. Tomorrow, I promise we're gonna have a
party.

Or is it gonna be a funeral in disguise? lol

Elaine**
*
2008/8/12 Steven Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>  Suhu Oentoeng,
> Apakah masih akan ada era +1000 yang suhu pernah bilang?
> Can we still say "At the end everything is PERFECT" seperti yang di The
> Last Samurai itu loohhh...
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
> On 8/12/08, oentoeng_qq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
>> "Dick Q" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Sir, please advise..is it enought ? or masih mau di benamkan lebih
>> dalam.
>> > Thanks Sir.
>> >
>>
>> Tutup mata aja...
>> Genggamkan tangan, trus BERDOA...
>> Biarkan BOZZ menyelesaikan PEKERJAANnya
>>
>> Market always RIGHT, Betoel???
>>
>> Good Luck!
>>
>>
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] To ALL SENIOR : SUPER CRASH NEXT WEEK !?!?!?!?!

[Elaine Sui]

*Heroic games? What is that supposed to mean?? Wait, weren't you  the one
who leaked a chat transcript with Oentoeng days ago? Oh I get it! I'm SORRY
I mocked on your master, it was really a joke. But if I was him I'd call it
a betrayal. :P

Anyway I was just commenting on Embah's call, but I doubt you have the guts
to tell him to continue his "heroic games"... ^_^

Elaine**
*
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 6:55 PM, Aria Bela Nusa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>  Sorry to hear your B/C's troops – babe – I count just on my exotic stock
> that until today not to allow down-turnings (it means more than 100 % - in
> cash I think) – so far so good my results – hopefully
>
>
>
> :) Pls to continue – your heroic (!) games – instead
>
>
>
> Happy Chuan,
>
>
>
> Aria
>
>
>
> *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Elaine Sui
> *Sent:* Monday, August 11, 2008 10:33 PM
>
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] To ALL SENIOR : SUPER CRASH NEXT WEEK
> !?!?!?!?!
>
>
>
> *tsk you remind me of Simon Cowell, he always gives comments but can't
> even sing. Yup! And I think you aren't that good in tape 
> reading<http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/message/99832>
> .
>
> Elaine*
>
> 2008/8/11 Aria Bela Nusa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> YUP, Pak PM – saham2nya doi yg dipilih2nya itu jg banyakan kena2 *support*-nya
> ke bawah2 dibanding sering2an ke* Res*-nya [makanya itu – sejak dl saya
> 'udah bilang2 'ndak ada doeitnya – hanya berdebat2 (kusir) 'doang 'aja doi +
> ditambah bumbu2 psikologis, sensasi2]
>
>
>
> Happy Chuan,
>
>
>
> Aria
>
>
>
> *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Pemain Mini
> *Sent:* Monday, August 11, 2008 4:55 PM
>
>
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] To ALL SENIOR : SUPER CRASH NEXT WEEK
> !?!?!?!?!
>
>
>
> kenapa sih kok gak ada yang PERCAYA sama OGUT !!??!?!!?!?!?
>
> akhirnya KEJADIAN kan !?!!?!?!?!?
>
>
>
>
>
>  - Original Message -
>
> *From:* Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 10, 2008 1:30 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] To ALL SENIOR : SUPER CRASH NEXT WEEK
> !?!?!?!?!
>
>
>
> *Ha ha ha enak saja. You just cut your losses terus mau crash? lol
> everything minus agri/energy are bullish.. that's for sure.
>
> Stress my friend? Instead of trading stocks, I suggest you better quit and
> spend your whatever you have left to get a yoga class or something.. :P ask
> Frendy to join you, you both have something in common..
>
> You asked me about it in the long run? well,  I run long and far far away
> from it... LLOOLL..
>
> Elaine*
>
> On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Pemain Mini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> any comment ? El, Mr Oen, Mbah, Mr DE ?
> or any other.
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: FW: [Milis-AATI] IHSG ke 2400 terus 2500 (ceterus paribus)

[Elaine Sui]

*Ok, get on board now. ^_^

**Elaine**
*
2008/8/13 oentoeng_qq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "oentoeng_qq" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Mumpung semuanya lagi HAPPY...
> > > Malah "seketemunya" saham mo DIHAJAR KANAN!?
>
> YOU can DO IT NOW!!!
>
> > >
> > > Oentoeng
> > >
> > > Story Teller
> >
>
>
>
> 
>
> + +
> + + + + +
> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> + + + + +
> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fw: Why ARE Men Happier? OOT

[Elaine Sui]

*Why women are happier than men?
*

   - *Women can have multiple orgasm*
   - *They have men to pay their credit card
   *

*Elaine*


On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Spy nggak stress...
>
>  This is what we have been waiting for...the true answers to...5 really
> important Questions:
>
> Q1: WHAT ARE THE SMALL BUMPS AROUND A WOMAN'S NIPPLES FOR?
> A: It's Braille for "suck here".
>
> Q2. WHAT IS AN AUSTRALIAN KISS?
> A: It's the same as a French kiss, only "down under."
>
> Q3. WHAT DO YOU DO WITH 365 USED CONDOMS?
> A: Melt them down, make a tire, and call it a Goodyear.
>
> Q4. WHY ARE HURRICANES NORMALLY NAMED AFTER WOMEN?
> A: Because when they come, they're wild and wet. But when they go,
> they take your house and car with them.
>
> Q5. WHY DO GIRLS RUB THEIR EYES WHEN THEY GET UP IN THE MORNING?
> A: Because they don't have any balls to scratch.
>
> Now, you know everything you need to know.
>
> *Why ARE Men Happier?*
> **
>
> Men Are Just Happier People. What do you expect from such simple creatures?
>
> Your last name stays put.
> The garage is all yours.
> Wedding plans take care of themselves.
> Chocolate is just another snack.
> You can be president.
> You can never be pregnant.
> You can wear a white T-shirt to a water park.
> You can wear NO shirt to a water park.
> Car mechanics tell you the truth.
> The world is your urinal. You never have to drive to another gas station
> restroom because this one is just too icky.
> You don't have to stop and think of which way to turn a nut on a bolt.
> Same work, more pay.
> Wrinkles add character.
> Wedding dress $5000. Tux rental-$100.
> People never stare at your chest when you're talking to them.
> The occasional well-rendered belch is practically expected.
> New shoes don't cut, blister, or mangle your feet.
> One mood all the time.
> Phone conversations are over in 30 seconds flat.
> You know stuff about tanks.
> A five-day vacation requires only one suitcase.
> You can open all your own jars.
> You get extra credit for the slightest act of thoughtfulness.
> If someone forgets to invite you, he or she can still be your friend.
> Your underwear is $8.95 for a three-pack.
> Three pairs of shoes are more than enough.
> You almost never have strap problems in public.
> You are unable to see wrinkles in your clothes.
> Everything on your face stays its original color.
> The same hairstyle lasts for years, maybe decades. You only have to shave
> your face and neck.
> You can play with toys all your life.
> Your belly usually hides your big hips.
> One wallet and one pair of shoes.
> One color for all seasons.
> You can wear shorts no matter how your legs look.
> You can "do" your nails with a pocket knife.
> You have freedom of choice concerning  growing a mustache.
> You can do Christmas shopping for 25 relatives on December 24 in 25
> minutes.
> You don't freak out when you go to a party and see another man
> wearing the same shirt, instead you become buddies.
>
> No WONDER men are happier...
>
> Send this to the women who can handle it, and to the men who will enjoy
> reading it!
> :-)
>
> 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Biarin BD maen sendiri....Re: FW: [Milis-AATI] IHSG ke 2400 terus 2500

[Elaine Sui]

*I'm still confident with my current portfolio design and target prices.
Daily volatility can't change my mind. Just study the toughest sectors in
the last two month, and you'll get the idea. Tetapi member mau ikut embah
cool down boleh saja. Jangan copet terus, tidak sehat untuk IDX.

Elaine juga belum gain banyak 2H08 (1H thanks to Coal/Agri), but I can wait,
cuz we know what we're doing, I trust my team, and we believe in
fundamentals.

Mungkin ada tanya kenapa bisa drop so much kalau fundamental bagus? The
answer is simple. Too many ppl own it.

Elaine**
*
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:06 AM, jsx_consultant <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Prasetyo, Hani"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Mmm let see...
> >
> > kalo mo ngakat den BEI bozz musti angkat BUMI dulu...
> >
>
> Anda benar, saat ini index digerakan HANYA dengan memanipulasi
> SENTIMEN PASAR, jadi TA/FA kita saat ini adalah EMOSI kita.
>
> Jika kita STRESS saat ini, maka anda tidak akan bisa mengambil
> keputusan secara NORMAL...
>
> Jadi daripada baca milis OB, mungkin lebih baik kita relax
> dulu
>
> KIRIMAN HUMOR DONG hehehe
>
> Note:
> - Jangan pasang BID dan OFFER, biarin BD maen sendiri
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of oentoeng_qq
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:01 AM
> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: FW: [Milis-AATI] IHSG ke 2400 terus
> 2500
> > (ceterus paribus)
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > 
> , "oentoeng_qq"
> > 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Mumpung semuanya lagi HAPPY...
> > > > Malah "seketemunya" saham mo DIHAJAR KANAN!?
> >
> > YOU can DO IT NOW!!!
> >
> > > >
> > > > Oentoeng
> > > >
> > > > Story Teller
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUY CPRO!

[Elaine Sui]

*OMG it was only a joke. didn't you even READ it? It's a shrimp-powered car.
I sent it 2 months ago.

lololol

Elaine**
*
2008/8/13 Febry Hariyannugraha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>  Tanggal berapa emailnya EL ?
> Udah June 23 kemaren ...
> Sekarang malah dihajar bawah tuh si CPRO ...
>
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fw: Why ARE Men Happier? OOT

[Elaine Sui]

*Enough please...

Elaine**
*
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Parama Nandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>
>
> El, i guess thats not women, thats hooker...
>
>
>
> --- On *Wed, 8/13/08, Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>*wrote:
>
> From: Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fw: Why ARE Men Happier? OOT
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 4:46 AM
>
>
>   *Why women are happier than men?
> *
>
>- *Women can have multiple orgasm*
>- *They have men to pay their credit card
>*
>
> *Elaine*
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Rei  PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
>
>>  Spy nggak stress...
>>
>>  This is what we have been waiting for...the true answers to...5 really
>> important Questions:
>>
>> Q1: WHAT ARE THE SMALL BUMPS AROUND A WOMAN'S NIPPLES FOR?
>> A: It's Braille for "suck here".
>>
>> Q2. WHAT IS AN AUSTRALIAN KISS?
>> A: It's the same as a French kiss, only "down under."
>>
>> Q3. WHAT DO YOU DO WITH 365 USED CONDOMS?
>> A: Melt them down, make a tire, and call it a Goodyear.
>>
>> Q4. WHY ARE HURRICANES NORMALLY NAMED AFTER WOMEN?
>> A: Because when they come, they're wild and wet. But when they go,
>> they take your house and car with them.
>>
>> Q5. WHY DO GIRLS RUB THEIR EYES WHEN THEY GET UP IN THE MORNING?
>> A: Because they don't have any balls to scratch.
>>
>> Now, you know everything you need to know.
>>
>> *Why ARE Men Happier?*
>> **
>>
>> Men Are Just Happier People. What do you expect from such
>> simple creatures?
>>
>> Your last name stays put.
>> The garage is all yours.
>> Wedding plans take care of themselves.
>> Chocolate is just another snack.
>> You can be president.
>> You can never be pregnant.
>> You can wear a white T-shirt to a water park.
>> You can wear NO shirt to a water park.
>> Car mechanics tell you the truth.
>> The world is your urinal. You never have to drive to another gas station
>> restroom because this one is just too icky.
>> You don't have to stop and think of which way to turn a nut on a bolt.
>> Same work, more pay.
>> Wrinkles add character.
>> Wedding dress $5000. Tux rental-$100.
>> People never stare at your chest when you're talking to them.
>> The occasional well-rendered belch is practically expected.
>> New shoes don't cut, blister, or mangle your feet.
>> One mood all the time.
>> Phone conversations are over in 30 seconds flat.
>> You know stuff about tanks.
>> A five-day vacation requires only one suitcase.
>> You can open all your own jars.
>> You get extra credit for the slightest act of thoughtfulness.
>> If someone forgets to invite you, he or she can still be your friend.
>> Your underwear is $8.95 for a three-pack.
>> Three pairs of shoes are more than enough.
>> You almost never have strap problems in public.
>> You are unable to see wrinkles in your clothes.
>> Everything on your face stays its original color.
>> The same hairstyle lasts for years, maybe decades. You only have to shave
>> your face and neck.
>> You can play with toys all your life.
>> Your belly usually hides your big hips.
>> One wallet and one pair of shoes.
>> One color for all seasons.
>> You can wear shorts no matter how your legs look.
>> You can "do" your nails with a pocket knife.
>> You have freedom of choice concerning  growing a mustache.
>> You can do Christmas shopping for 25 relatives on December 24 in 25
>> minutes.
>> You don't freak out when you go to a party and see another man
>> wearing the same shirt, instead you become buddies.
>>
>> No WONDER men are happier...
>>
>> Send this to the women who can handle it, and to the men who will enjoy
>> reading it!
>> :-)
>>
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Shopping time!

[Elaine Sui]

*Congrats all! May you all have good fortune!

Elaine**
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On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Elaine Sui <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> *Yeah, that includes Energy stocks woohooo lol
>
> Elaine**
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> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Elaine Sui <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> *Wake up! It's shopping time!!!
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>> Elaine*
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO potential rebound??

[Elaine Sui]

*I'd buy Astra Agro @13000-15000 and sell them @45k in 2H/FY09. That'd be
200% gain. Fair enough?

Both of them are right, since there's no exact timeframe supplied. Anyway, I
put a huge proportion on financials and property, as you can see I'm seeking
the most defensive sector in this 2H08 (refer to Marcello's post), but IF
cmdty stocks fall way beyond my valuation, I might increase it back.

Unlike traders I just can't put them in 100% in cash. That's why they're
called Actively Managed Funds.

(It's funny, somehow some ppl looks smarter and talks much that he used to.
It's traders psychological trait, the more you make analysis, the less
you're trading. It's a sign that most player here are staying away from the
market which also indicates that the bottom is near, and somehow I know
hendrik was not trading what he was saying... roflmao just kidding,..)

Well all I know that this year crude oil will be back to 80, fed stays at
2.00, ID int. rate will be 9.75, PO futures below 2000, N McCloskey below
100, generally everything will be down before they start to rebound,
obviously, and Yudoyhono will win the election for the 2nd time.

I won't respond to any of your argument cuz it's not happening yet. Arguing
the future is stupid. ^_^

As for Bakrie Group, we just don't like to invest our fund to someone we
can't trust. (it feels like telling your pet dog to guard your sausages, you
just KNOW it won't work..lol)

Happy Independence Day, I wish IDX will shine again and everyone is
wealthier next year.

Elaine**
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2008/8/17 jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "hendrik_lwww"
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> > salah satu kelamahan BALANCING adalah
> > newbie akan bingung mau CL apa tidak
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> Jangankan Newbie, embah aja BINGUNG mau ikut pak Halim atau
> Macquire. Yang manasih yg BENER ??? Jangan jangan kedua
> dua nya salah dan yang bener adalah yang punya TP MODERAT
> tidak kerendahan dan tidak ketinggian.
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> Member senior 'punya' tanggung jawab ama yg yunior, AT LEAST
> untuk tidak memberikan posting yg bernuansa 'TERROR', berikan
> mereka info yg WAJAR (meskipun embah yakin pak Halim dan
> Macquire merasa SUDAH memberi info yg WAJAR meskipun angkanya BEDA
> SELANGIT).
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> Sehingga para Newbie at least akan merasa FIT (tidak stress)
> untuk membuat DECISION: Cutloss, HOLD, BUY atau Average down.
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> Jika mereka STRESS, mereka tidak akan bisa membuat keputusan
> YG CORRECT, karena FEAR akan lebih dominan daripas logika...
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO potential rebound??

[Elaine Sui]

*1&2. You answered them yourself. IDR is considered weak against USD. Also
it's used to curb inflation spikes that might happen in the next fasting
season. As you can see there are huge outflows in the stock market lately.
These "idle" money need to be put somewhere, like govt bonds or even CD.

PERSONAL OPINION:

Right now more ppl need cheaper cooking oil than stock traders to bull
market, you see it's more like a political move, from my point of view. As
in any election year, everything must be re-stabilized, that includes
inflation and currency. Nanti setelah election rate bisa turun lagi.

Your government already have lots of gain from trade surplus in
2003-2007-now from cmdty, incl oil, gas, cpo and coal. Now they need
stabilization more than growth. Stronger IDR is needed since Indonesia still
imports gasoline. Sama juga dengan US seperti itu, perlu lots of money jadi
buat chaos subprime mortgage sampai oil $146 (who do you think have been
funding the iraq wars? it's us, who buy arab oil).

The arabs, Chinese and European who have LOTS OF USD RESERVE get the money
and reinvest them in US Trasury bonds and stocks, which are awfully
undervalued. Clever eh.. This chaotic market I THINK is not a chaos at all.
It's planned agenda (lol sry to use your term, Oentoeng)

If oil continues to decline to a more reasonable price, gasoline price might
get reduced next year (would be the first time in history, right? It'd be
the greatest political tool for the current regime), Yudoyhono would become
the hero, raising the chance to get elected again. Get the pattern here?
Those guys in the finance ministry and central bank are not dumb-asses. They
know what they're doing.

If the election goes smoothly, it raises the confidence of foreign
investors, thus money will flow back to higher risk investment like equity.
That's why Oentoeng's bozz is so sure about 4000 next year. Maybe he's
thinking what I'm thinking.

Of course this is only a plan (their plan!), and it can change if things get
in the way, say, Australians invades Indonesia..ll kidding.. ^_^ 2008 is
really a tough year for the global economy. Surely we're not alone.

Now I'm not expert in politcs nor have any interest about it, this' just
come up in my mind. Don't take it for granted, I could be wrong, though.
Just enjoy the incoming "Theatre of pain" dear cmdty lovers >:))) I have
trillions of cash waiting to eat you alive.. muahahaha..

Elaine**
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On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 12:21 AM, jos_martino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My dear Elaine,
> Your "Macroeconomy" lecture makes me courios to ask:
>
> 1. Why ppl want to "send" out money to other countries, if  currency
> is stronger and interest rate higher?
> Usually they do IF ccy is weak and interest low. Why? Because they
> want to EXCHANGE their weaker ccy to stronger ccy with higher
> interest. At the end they going to have double-profit, stronger
> VALUE and INTEREST. Ini biasa disebut "CARRY-TRADE".
>
> Contoh: Ito orang Japan pinjam uang 1,000,000 Yen dari Bank OF Tokyo
> dengan interest 2%/tahun. Ito kemudian meminjamkan uang tsb ke Paijo
> orang Indonesia sejumlah IDR 80 juta (1 Yen=IDR 80), interest
> 8%/tahun. Setahun kemudian IDR menguat thd Yen, 1 Yen=IDR 60 maka
> Ito akan mendapat =80 juta/60= 1,33 juta Yen plus interest 6% x 80
> juta/60= 80 ribu Yen. Netprofit Ito sekitar 410 ribu Yen setelah
> membayar Bank.
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> 2. Why we need TMP? IDR is stronger than others (except BRICS and
> USD). Inflasi cost-push tidak bisa diobati dengan naiknya rate.
> Global Economy melambat kalo IDR menguat terus nanti EKSPOR kita
> TIDAK LAKU karena jadi "MAHAL". Nanti bayar Hutang pake apa?
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> Jadi buat apa naikin rate?
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> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Elaine Sui"
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> > I forget to tell you, we moved some of our equity funds to fixed
> income,
> > they give better returns for sometime now, and seems that everyone
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> > it too, that's why IDR has been quite strong albeit IDX tumbles.
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> > I expect central bank to raise rates even more, maybe to 9.5%? Any
> comment?
> > They are doing what they call "Tight Money Policy", to keep the
> money from
> > going out of the country by selling short term bonds.
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> > lol. it's a central bank policy designed to curb inflation by
> reducing the
> > reserves of commercial banks (and consequently the money supply,
> through
> > open market operations), opposite of easy monetary policy (like
> the Fed has
> > been doing). **This policy is exercised in times of inflatio

Re: [obrolan-bandar] SMCB: Marketwise technical

[Elaine Sui]

*Cement,steel and electricity (coal..ehm..:) are essential to any
infrastructure, which will start to expand heavily in 2009-2010. A wise
investment choice.

(HEY ! I said 2009, not tomorrow..lol you pathetic bunch of gamblers.. ^_^)

Elaine**
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2008/8/18 jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> SMCB: Marketwise technical
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> Daripada ngomongin oil terus, embah kirimkan
> grafik Marketwise technical untuk SMCB.
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> http://www.invest2000.net/pwlsmcb.png
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> Ide dari Marketwise technical ialah menyelaraskan
> pikiran kita dengan gerakan gelombang harga yg
> tersirat pada grafik harga.
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> Coba kita lihat pada case SMCB:
> - Pada grafik terlihat ada gelombang harga merah (downtrend).
> - Downtend merah ini dipatahkan oleh gelombang biru 0-1-2-3
>  yaitu uptrend wave.
> - Uptrend wave ini CONFIRMED terbentuk jika garis hijau
>  ditembus keatas dan titik 3 bisa naik diatas titik 1.
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> berusaha mengubah Analisa Technical menjadi sesuatu
> yang EASY and SIMPLE.
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> COMPLEX, dimana para senior aja BEDA PENDAPAT, lebih
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI Update

[Elaine Sui]

*"Now you see me, now you don't" type of trend analysis ha ha ha...

Elaine**
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On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 1:29 PM, JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Wah seru nih.., konsultan sama konsultan lagi diskusi
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> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
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> Sent: Aug 20, 2008 13:18
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI Update
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> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Hendrik Limbono
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > BUMI :
> > Very Short Downtrend Line Telah Break (Garis Ungu)
> > Namun Masih dalam short term downtrend (garis Hitam)
> > dan baru break di 5450.
> > Rekomendasi : HOLD, CL Jika Tembus 5000 (Garis IJO)
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> > FA : DJ US Coal Nanti Malam Belum Tertebak
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