[obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-18 Terurut Topik conx_2003
Mbah klo ga salah JUALAN deh

Jualan BAKPAO

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vincent Chase
 wrote:
>
> buy udah dr tadi pak, pas dalam proses hsi dr-200 sampe plus, pas
s&p fut plusnya tambah naik
> 
> --- On Wed, 2/18/09, Thomas Frederick  wrote:
> From: Thomas Frederick 
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE TRUTH UNVEILED
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, February 18, 2009, 8:04 AM
> 
> we miss your BUY word..
> can you use it elaine?? pleasee...
> 
> 
> 
> Thank You! 
>  
> ThomaS FredericK
> 
> --- On Wed, 2/18/09, Elaine Sui  wrote:
> 
> From: Elaine Sui 
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE TRUTH UNVEILED
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, February 18, 2009, 2:01 AM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> It's okay but not on my watchlist.
> 
> Elaine
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Halim Perdana 
wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> How about banking sector, elaine?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Elaine Sui 
> 
> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 11:56:24 AM
> 
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE TRUTH UNVEILED
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> SIMA, IS THIS ALL YOU CAN DO? LOL WHERE IS THE FRICKIN NUKE???  COME
ON BRING IT ON, WE WILL SURELY BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF YA.. 
> 
> Elaine
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Elaine Sui 
wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Elaine's 10 commandments:
> 
> 1. Thou shalt buy commodities & energy stocks 
> 2. Thou shalt avoid consumer stocks
> 3. Thou shalt avoid gold
> 4. Thou shalt invest
> 5. The guy below is retarded
> 6. All bears are retarded
> 7. Asia vs Western Decoupling
> 8. Thou shalt love crises as an opportunity.
> 9. Thou shalt avoid worthless US dollars.
> 10. China & Indonesia = Money Machine.
> 
> 
> 
> Elaine
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Ratu Sima  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Aimee CAN'T see no more how slow & retarded the process of conspiracy
> clearing within SP & its alike.
> 
> With how tough the market has been underway nowadays, this case MUST be
> tackled promptly & rightly.
> 
> How national stock market CAN BE further saved if the common investors
> are poorly protected & appreciated.
> 
> In the Big General's Regime, there are people above the law BUT now
> there should be more people en masse against them or it will continue to
> be Zero Sum Game.
> 
> Let me be straight:
> 
> This long deflationary period WON'T last too long. By the 3rd Quarter of
> this year, it will jump into INFLATION. This tight-preservation  of
> interest rate of 'Wait & See' Game WILL eventually blow up & turn the
> cycle around.
> 
> I have been in China for days & people have started to worry about the
> 2000 B currency reserve put in US Treasury. When the
>  recession is going
> further, the yield & benefit of it is only exercised for subsidizing the
> Neverland's crisis. In turn, it CAN bubble inflation & spread throughout
> the worlds.
> 
> When it occurs, the world's economy can be in the lost decade.
> Properties, on the other hand, CAN'T be a safe-heaven as well. Yet,
> infrastructure development is COSTLY. Precious metals might do save but
> the world's economy is fixed in the Neverland's fiat currency and leave
> other countries paralyzed.
> 
> Don't be fed up with how equity market has been on the way because the
> truth is 'as the way it is'. It is still miles away to go up.
> 
> Meanwhile, let me recall again:
> 
> Clear up soon domestic homeworks before things fall any further.
> Indonesia is in dire need of transitional figure who would stand up to
> what they believe.
> 
> When times of up come along, only clear state of equity business
> practices can guarantee
>  IHSG to grow along its international benchmark
> market.
> 
> For dear investors, stick back to growth stocks, clean clean growth
> stocks. Never be mystified by the reborn of cyclical stock.
> 
> For traders, hit & run will still be ON.
> 
> 
> 
> Ratusima,
> 
> The United Kingdom of Kalingga, Java
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik Aria Bela Nusa
YUP - banyakan yg cut (profit/loss), yah - tadi pagi2...



> Ahh gak usah didenger kata2 si Ratu Bearish hehehe .. dengerkan aja
> info dunia resmi,dan yg kita liat/denger dg mata kepala dan kuping
> dan jangan terpengaruh sama info si bear yg pasti tidak selalu
> akurat..
>
>
> Rgrds
>
>
> Andre Andre  wrote:
>>
>>   in the short term yes growth stock will beat the market, but in
> the long run value stocks will beat growth stocks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> W
>> On 17/02/2009, RATU SIMA  wrote:
>> > Dear Sylar_Fang,
>> >
>> > While enjoying my evening's cigar & a glass of red wine here,
> I'll explain a
>> > little:
>> > A great investor will only concentrate on growth stocks, of which
> its
>> > CANSLIM requirements are duly met.
>> > S/he will verify their fundamental real condition, such as
> earning growth,
>> > QonQ comparison, clean corporate governance, strong expansion
> (but not based
>> > on credit system), sound subsidiaries, and so on so forth.
>> >
>> > Contrary to growth stocks, a great investor does not fully trust
> the
>> > cyclical stock. The merit of cyclical stock is exercised by big
> fund /
>> > market maker of which price movement isn't energized by its
> CANSLIM, BUT
>> > merely on the strength within the market makers.
>> >
>> > For scalpers, swingers, intraday traders who are skilled and
> trained, it
>> > might give them additional profit in relatively little by little
> amount due
>> > to the thin volume & price range that real time market
> relinquishes.
>> >
>> > Unfortunately for investors, the risk might not be equal to its
> reward.
>> > Worse when such cyclical stock is occupied & owned by big fund /
> financial
>> > institutions, it could tumble the whole aggregate stock index
> miserably
>> > because its cap market enables it to do so.
>> >
>> > Under this circumstance, the overall stock market condition is
> NOT SOUND
>> > YET.
>> >
>> > Love,
>> > Aimee from Guang Zhou
>> >
>>
>
>
>



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik d' Coffino
 2. Thou shalt avoid consumer stocks

Hmmm... Elaine sedang diet berat buat menjaga penampilannya nich?!

On 2/18/09, FromBuitenzorg  wrote:
> Ahh gak usah didenger kata2 si Ratu Bearish hehehe .. dengerkan aja
> info dunia resmi,dan yg kita liat/denger dg mata kepala dan kuping
> dan jangan terpengaruh sama info si bear yg pasti tidak selalu
> akurat..
>
>
> Rgrds
>
>
> Andre Andre  wrote:
>>
>>   in the short term yes growth stock will beat the market, but in
> the long run value stocks will beat growth stocks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> W
>> On 17/02/2009, RATU SIMA  wrote:
>> > Dear Sylar_Fang,
>> >
>> > While enjoying my evening's cigar & a glass of red wine here,
> I'll explain a
>> > little:
>> > A great investor will only concentrate on growth stocks, of which
> its
>> > CANSLIM requirements are duly met.
>> > S/he will verify their fundamental real condition, such as
> earning growth,
>> > QonQ comparison, clean corporate governance, strong expansion
> (but not based
>> > on credit system), sound subsidiaries, and so on so forth.
>> >
>> > Contrary to growth stocks, a great investor does not fully trust
> the
>> > cyclical stock. The merit of cyclical stock is exercised by big
> fund /
>> > market maker of which price movement isn't energized by its
> CANSLIM, BUT
>> > merely on the strength within the market makers.
>> >
>> > For scalpers, swingers, intraday traders who are skilled and
> trained, it
>> > might give them additional profit in relatively little by little
> amount due
>> > to the thin volume & price range that real time market
> relinquishes.
>> >
>> > Unfortunately for investors, the risk might not be equal to its
> reward.
>> > Worse when such cyclical stock is occupied & owned by big fund /
> financial
>> > institutions, it could tumble the whole aggregate stock index
> miserably
>> > because its cap market enables it to do so.
>> >
>> > Under this circumstance, the overall stock market condition is
> NOT SOUND
>> > YET.
>> >
>> > Love,
>> > Aimee from Guang Zhou
>> >
>>
>
>
>


[obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik FromBuitenzorg
Ahh gak usah didenger kata2 si Ratu Bearish hehehe .. dengerkan aja 
info dunia resmi,dan yg kita liat/denger dg mata kepala dan kuping 
dan jangan terpengaruh sama info si bear yg pasti tidak selalu 
akurat..


Rgrds


Andre Andre  wrote:
>
>   in the short term yes growth stock will beat the market, but in 
the long run value stocks will beat growth stocks
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> W
> On 17/02/2009, RATU SIMA  wrote:
> > Dear Sylar_Fang,
> >
> > While enjoying my evening's cigar & a glass of red wine here, 
I'll explain a
> > little:
> > A great investor will only concentrate on growth stocks, of which 
its
> > CANSLIM requirements are duly met.
> > S/he will verify their fundamental real condition, such as 
earning growth,
> > QonQ comparison, clean corporate governance, strong expansion 
(but not based
> > on credit system), sound subsidiaries, and so on so forth.
> >
> > Contrary to growth stocks, a great investor does not fully trust 
the
> > cyclical stock. The merit of cyclical stock is exercised by big 
fund /
> > market maker of which price movement isn't energized by its 
CANSLIM, BUT
> > merely on the strength within the market makers.
> >
> > For scalpers, swingers, intraday traders who are skilled and 
trained, it
> > might give them additional profit in relatively little by little 
amount due
> > to the thin volume & price range that real time market 
relinquishes.
> >
> > Unfortunately for investors, the risk might not be equal to its 
reward.
> > Worse when such cyclical stock is occupied & owned by big fund / 
financial
> > institutions, it could tumble the whole aggregate stock index 
miserably
> > because its cap market enables it to do so.
> >
> > Under this circumstance, the overall stock market condition is 
NOT SOUND
> > YET.
> >
> > Love,
> > Aimee from Guang Zhou
> >
>




Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik Andre Andre
  in the short term yes growth stock will beat the market, but in the long run 
value stocks will beat growth stocks






W
On 17/02/2009, RATU SIMA  wrote:
> Dear Sylar_Fang,
>
> While enjoying my evening's cigar & a glass of red wine here, I'll explain a
> little:
> A great investor will only concentrate on growth stocks, of which its
> CANSLIM requirements are duly met.
> S/he will verify their fundamental real condition, such as earning growth,
> QonQ comparison, clean corporate governance, strong expansion (but not based
> on credit system), sound subsidiaries, and so on so forth.
>
> Contrary to growth stocks, a great investor does not fully trust the
> cyclical stock. The merit of cyclical stock is exercised by big fund /
> market maker of which price movement isn't energized by its CANSLIM, BUT
> merely on the strength within the market makers.
>
> For scalpers, swingers, intraday traders who are skilled and trained, it
> might give them additional profit in relatively little by little amount due
> to the thin volume & price range that real time market relinquishes.
>
> Unfortunately for investors, the risk might not be equal to its reward.
> Worse when such cyclical stock is occupied & owned by big fund / financial
> institutions, it could tumble the whole aggregate stock index miserably
> because its cap market enables it to do so.
>
> Under this circumstance, the overall stock market condition is NOT SOUND
> YET.
>
> Love,
> Aimee from Guang Zhou
>

   


  

[obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik Hendra Santosa
I was wondering why should we avoid consumer stocks?
It's not because that WB slashes J&J stake, isn't it?
http://www.cnbc.com/id/29242870

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui  wrote:
>
> *SIMA, IS THIS ALL YOU CAN DO? LOL WHERE IS THE FRICKIN NUKE???  COME ON
> BRING IT ON, WE WILL SURELY BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF YA.. [?]
> 
> Elaine**
> *
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Elaine Sui  wrote:
> 
> > *Elaine's 10 commandments:
> >
> > 1. Thou shalt buy commodities & energy stocks
> > 2. Thou shalt avoid consumer stocks
> > 3. Thou shalt avoid gold
> > 4. Thou shalt invest
> > 5. The guy below is retarded
> > 6. All bears are retarded
> > 7. Asia vs Western Decoupling
> > 8. Thou shalt love crises as an opportunity.
> > 9. Thou shalt avoid worthless US dollars.
> > 10. China & Indonesia = Money Machine.
> >
> >
> >
> > Elaine**




[obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik cipto_jh
hayalan saya, kek fase2 per-kimpoi-an aja kali ya..

Klu masih fase pacaran, mo putus sie.. ok2 ajah

Fase dah merit tapi blum punya momongan, mo cerai.. still masih 
tetep ok lah.. walau lebih agak pelik dikit.. 

nach klu ude fase dah punya buntut 5, mo cerai.. pasti puyeng bgt 
mikir bolak balik.. hehehe.. u need, I need juga lah, selain.. tu 
buntut mo di-kemana-in..

Sekarang pan sikonnya.. u butuh ngutang kan, owe butuh jualan buat 
makanin owe punya mulut se-gedhe gaban bengkak (saking wuakeh-e ;P). 
U brani persulit owe punya barang masuk, ti-ati (lagi :)).. 

Pan faktanya selama ini, si pengutang cuman isa menghimbau aka 
menyeru aje, ayoo dunk naik-kin nilai mata uang ngkoh.. (plizzz.. dg 
pelan bgt ampe ndak kedengeran, di-luar-annya sie sok 'jaim' 
punya.. :p) gtu aja kan.. hehehe.. 


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, agung aja  
wrote:
>
> Can Asia be decoupling with US ?
> Go For It Miss ...
> Dont forget to pray because DJIA is dying and how about world 
economic growth, is it possible to survive ???
> 
> regards
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Elaine Sui 
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:49:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE TRUTH UNVEILED
> 
> 
> Elaine's 10 commandments:
> 
> 1.. Thou shalt buy commodities & energy stocks 
> 2. Thou shalt avoid consumer stocks
> 3. Thou shalt avoid gold
> 4. Thou shalt invest
> 5. The guy below is retarded
> 6. All bears are retarded
> 7. Asia vs Western Decoupling
> 8. Thou shalt love crises as an opportunity.
> 9. Thou shalt avoid worthless US dollars.
> 10. China & Indonesia = Money Machine.
> 
> 
> 
> Elaine
> 
> 
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Ratu Sima  
wrote:
> 
> 
> Aimee CAN'T see no more how slow & retarded the process of 
conspiracy
> clearing within SP & its alike.
> 
> With how tough the market has been underway nowadays, this case 
MUST be
> tackled promptly & rightly..
> 
> How national stock market CAN BE further saved if the common 
investors
> are poorly protected & appreciated.
> 
> In the Big General's Regime, there are people above the law BUT now
> there should be more people en masse against them or it will 
continue to
> be Zero Sum Game.
> 
> Let me be straight:
> 
> This long deflationary period WON'T last too long. By the 3rd 
Quarter of
> this year, it will jump into INFLATION. This tight-preservation  of
> interest rate of 'Wait & See' Game WILL eventually blow up & turn 
the
> cycle around.
> 
> I have been in China for days & people have started to worry about 
the
> 2000 B currency reserve put in US Treasury. When the recession is 
going
> further, the yield & benefit of it is only exercised for 
subsidizing the
> Neverland's crisis. In turn, it CAN bubble inflation & spread 
throughout
> the worlds.
> 
> When it occurs, the world's economy can be in the lost decade.
> Properties, on the other hand, CAN'T be a safe-heaven as well. Yet,
> infrastructure development is COSTLY. Precious metals might do 
save but
> the world's economy is fixed in the Neverland's fiat currency and 
leave
> other countries paralyzed.
> 
> Don't be fed up with how equity market has been on the way because 
the
> truth is 'as the way it is'. It is still miles away to go up.
> 
> Meanwhile, let me recall again:
> 
> Clear up soon domestic homeworks before things fall any further.
> Indonesia is in dire need of transitional figure who would stand 
up to
> what they believe.
> 
> When times of up come along, only clear state of equity business
> practices can guarantee IHSG to grow along its international 
benchmark
> market.
> 
> For dear investors, stick back to growth stocks, clean clean growth
> stocks. Never be mystified by the reborn of cyclical stock.
> 
> For traders, hit & run will still be ON.
> 
> 
> 
> Ratusima,
> 
> The United Kingdom of Kalingga, Java
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  - - --
> 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik ngitung
Pak T Bumi, 

No offense yah, cuma diskusi,
Bukannya permintaan komoditi juga melemah, karena pelemahan ekonomi dunia, 
indeks energi di china aja uda turun,
Mungkin komoditi masih ada prospek karena adjusment thdp  US dollar konversi ke 
rupiah yah? Bukan karena demandnya.

Yang saya liat dan rasakan sih, semua modal besar pada nahan alias wait n see, 
yang modal kecil sih gerak terus supaya survive.

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik troyanese
Orientasi export juga susah. Proteksi dimana-mana,

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "t_bumi"  wrote:
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ngitung@ wrote:
> >
> > Pak, duit mana lagi yg dipake buat beli properti, daya beli kan 
uda 
> turun.
> > Keliatan pada org yg buka bisnis rumah makan, uda mulai ngeluh 
sepi.
> > Orang2 uda switching ke masak sendiri, mengurangi makan sekeluarga 
> di rumah makan/ restaurant.
> > 
> > Suku bunga turun sih, akan membantu supaya cicilan ga pada macet.
> > 
> > 
> > Sip : tbumi
> 
> Benar sekali. Perusahaan yang bisa bertahan di tanah air saat ini 
> 
> adalah perusahaan yg beroriantasi eksport saja, khususnya commodity.
> 
> Apalagi ditambah dgn pelemahan rupiah terhadap US$, tentunya emiten
> 
> commodity akan lebih diuntungkan lagi.
>





[obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik t_bumi
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ngit...@... wrote:
>
> Pak, duit mana lagi yg dipake buat beli properti, daya beli kan uda 
turun.
> Keliatan pada org yg buka bisnis rumah makan, uda mulai ngeluh sepi.
> Orang2 uda switching ke masak sendiri, mengurangi makan sekeluarga 
di rumah makan/ restaurant.
> 
> Suku bunga turun sih, akan membantu supaya cicilan ga pada macet.
> 
> 
> Sip : tbumi

Benar sekali. Perusahaan yang bisa bertahan di tanah air saat ini 

adalah perusahaan yg beroriantasi eksport saja, khususnya commodity.

Apalagi ditambah dgn pelemahan rupiah terhadap US$, tentunya emiten

commodity akan lebih diuntungkan lagi.





Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik Rei
Tapi foodcourt di mall2 kelas atas tetap aja penuh. Yg makan pun banyakan
kalangan pekerja/executive dan mahasiswa/ABG...
Apakah lifestyle business tdk pernah mati?

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:21 AM,  wrote:

> Pak, duit mana lagi yg dipake buat beli properti, daya beli kan uda turun.
> Keliatan pada org yg buka bisnis rumah makan, uda mulai ngeluh sepi.
> Orang2 uda switching ke masak sendiri, mengurangi makan sekeluarga di rumah
> makan/ restaurant.
>
> Suku bunga turun sih, akan membantu supaya cicilan ga pada macet.
>
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> -Original Message-
> From: "Vic" 
>
> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 03:02:43
> To: 
>  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED
>
>
> china, india n indonesia adalah sedikit negara yg diperkirakan imf
> masih bertumbuh ekonominya di 2009. indonesia gdp-nya gak tergantung
> sama ekspor (cuma 35% kalau gak salah).
>
> jangan lupa properti. bi bakal nurunin bi rate lebih agresif. minggu
> ini bunga deposito turun lagi.
>
>
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui  wrote:
> >
> > *Elaine's 10 commandments:
> >
> > 1. Thou shalt buy commodities & energy stocks
> > 2. Thou shalt avoid consumer stocks
> > 3. Thou shalt avoid gold
> > 4. Thou shalt invest
> > 5. The guy below is retarded
> > 6. All bears are retarded
> > 7. Asia vs Western Decoupling
> > 8. Thou shalt love crises as an opportunity.
> > 9. Thou shalt avoid worthless US dollars.
> > 10. China & Indonesia = Money Machine.
> >
> >
> >
> > Elaine**
> > *
> > On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Ratu Sima  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Aimee CAN'T see no more how slow & retarded the process of conspiracy
> > > clearing within SP & its alike.
> > >
> > > With how tough the market has been underway nowadays, this case
> MUST be
> > > tackled promptly & rightly.
> > >
> > > How national stock market CAN BE further saved if the common investors
> > > are poorly protected & appreciated.
> > >
> > > In the Big General's Regime, there are people above the law BUT now
> > > there should be more people en masse against them or it will
> continue to
> > > be Zero Sum Game.
> > >
> > > Let me be straight:
> > >
> > > This long deflationary period WON'T last too long. By the 3rd
> Quarter of
> > > this year, it will jump into INFLATION. This tight-preservation  of
> > > interest rate of 'Wait & See' Game WILL eventually blow up & turn the
> > > cycle around.
> > >
> > > I have been in China for days & people have started to worry about the
> > > 2000 B currency reserve put in US Treasury. When the recession is
> going
> > > further, the yield & benefit of it is only exercised for
> subsidizing the
> > > Neverland's crisis. In turn, it CAN bubble inflation & spread
> throughout
> > > the worlds.
> > >
> > > When it occurs, the world's economy can be in the lost decade.
> > > Properties, on the other hand, CAN'T be a safe-heaven as well. Yet,
> > > infrastructure development is COSTLY. Precious metals might do
> save but
> > > the world's economy is fixed in the Neverland's fiat currency and
> leave
> > > other countries paralyzed.
> > >
> > > Don't be fed up with how equity market has been on the way because the
> > > truth is 'as the way it is'. It is still miles away to go up.
> > >
> > > Meanwhile, let me recall again:
> > >
> > > Clear up soon domestic homeworks before things fall any further.
> > > Indonesia is in dire need of transitional figure who would stand up to
> > > what they believe.
> > >
> > > When times of up come along, only clear state of equity business
> > > practices can guarantee IHSG to grow along its international benchmark
> > > market.
> > >
> > > For dear investors, stick back to growth stocks, clean clean growth
> > > stocks. Never be mystified by the reborn of cyclical stock.
> > >
> > > For traders, hit & run will still be ON.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ratusima,
> > >
> > > The United Kingdom of Kalingga, Java
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > + +
> > > + + + + +
> > > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> > > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> > > + + + + +
> > > + +Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> + +
> + + + + +
> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> + + + + +
> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> + +
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik ngitung
Pak, duit mana lagi yg dipake buat beli properti, daya beli kan uda turun.
Keliatan pada org yg buka bisnis rumah makan, uda mulai ngeluh sepi.
Orang2 uda switching ke masak sendiri, mengurangi makan sekeluarga di rumah 
makan/ restaurant.

Suku bunga turun sih, akan membantu supaya cicilan ga pada macet.


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From: "Vic" 

Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 03:02:43 
To: 
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED


china, india n indonesia adalah sedikit negara yg diperkirakan imf
masih bertumbuh ekonominya di 2009. indonesia gdp-nya gak tergantung
sama ekspor (cuma 35% kalau gak salah).

jangan lupa properti. bi bakal nurunin bi rate lebih agresif. minggu
ini bunga deposito turun lagi.




--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui  wrote:
>
> *Elaine's 10 commandments:
> 
> 1. Thou shalt buy commodities & energy stocks
> 2. Thou shalt avoid consumer stocks
> 3. Thou shalt avoid gold
> 4. Thou shalt invest
> 5. The guy below is retarded
> 6. All bears are retarded
> 7. Asia vs Western Decoupling
> 8. Thou shalt love crises as an opportunity.
> 9. Thou shalt avoid worthless US dollars.
> 10. China & Indonesia = Money Machine.
> 
> 
> 
> Elaine**
> *
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Ratu Sima  wrote:
> 
> >
> > Aimee CAN'T see no more how slow & retarded the process of conspiracy
> > clearing within SP & its alike.
> >
> > With how tough the market has been underway nowadays, this case
MUST be
> > tackled promptly & rightly.
> >
> > How national stock market CAN BE further saved if the common investors
> > are poorly protected & appreciated.
> >
> > In the Big General's Regime, there are people above the law BUT now
> > there should be more people en masse against them or it will
continue to
> > be Zero Sum Game.
> >
> > Let me be straight:
> >
> > This long deflationary period WON'T last too long. By the 3rd
Quarter of
> > this year, it will jump into INFLATION. This tight-preservation  of
> > interest rate of 'Wait & See' Game WILL eventually blow up & turn the
> > cycle around.
> >
> > I have been in China for days & people have started to worry about the
> > 2000 B currency reserve put in US Treasury. When the recession is
going
> > further, the yield & benefit of it is only exercised for
subsidizing the
> > Neverland's crisis. In turn, it CAN bubble inflation & spread
throughout
> > the worlds.
> >
> > When it occurs, the world's economy can be in the lost decade.
> > Properties, on the other hand, CAN'T be a safe-heaven as well. Yet,
> > infrastructure development is COSTLY. Precious metals might do
save but
> > the world's economy is fixed in the Neverland's fiat currency and
leave
> > other countries paralyzed.
> >
> > Don't be fed up with how equity market has been on the way because the
> > truth is 'as the way it is'. It is still miles away to go up.
> >
> > Meanwhile, let me recall again:
> >
> > Clear up soon domestic homeworks before things fall any further.
> > Indonesia is in dire need of transitional figure who would stand up to
> > what they believe.
> >
> > When times of up come along, only clear state of equity business
> > practices can guarantee IHSG to grow along its international benchmark
> > market.
> >
> > For dear investors, stick back to growth stocks, clean clean growth
> > stocks. Never be mystified by the reborn of cyclical stock.
> >
> > For traders, hit & run will still be ON.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ratusima,
> >
> > The United Kingdom of Kalingga, Java
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > + +
> > + + + + +
> > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> > + + + + +
> > + +Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>






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[obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik Vic
china, india n indonesia adalah sedikit negara yg diperkirakan imf
masih bertumbuh ekonominya di 2009. indonesia gdp-nya gak tergantung
sama ekspor (cuma 35% kalau gak salah).

jangan lupa properti. bi bakal nurunin bi rate lebih agresif. minggu
ini bunga deposito turun lagi.




--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui  wrote:
>
> *Elaine's 10 commandments:
> 
> 1. Thou shalt buy commodities & energy stocks
> 2. Thou shalt avoid consumer stocks
> 3. Thou shalt avoid gold
> 4. Thou shalt invest
> 5. The guy below is retarded
> 6. All bears are retarded
> 7. Asia vs Western Decoupling
> 8. Thou shalt love crises as an opportunity.
> 9. Thou shalt avoid worthless US dollars.
> 10. China & Indonesia = Money Machine.
> 
> 
> 
> Elaine**
> *
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Ratu Sima  wrote:
> 
> >
> > Aimee CAN'T see no more how slow & retarded the process of conspiracy
> > clearing within SP & its alike.
> >
> > With how tough the market has been underway nowadays, this case
MUST be
> > tackled promptly & rightly.
> >
> > How national stock market CAN BE further saved if the common investors
> > are poorly protected & appreciated.
> >
> > In the Big General's Regime, there are people above the law BUT now
> > there should be more people en masse against them or it will
continue to
> > be Zero Sum Game.
> >
> > Let me be straight:
> >
> > This long deflationary period WON'T last too long. By the 3rd
Quarter of
> > this year, it will jump into INFLATION. This tight-preservation  of
> > interest rate of 'Wait & See' Game WILL eventually blow up & turn the
> > cycle around.
> >
> > I have been in China for days & people have started to worry about the
> > 2000 B currency reserve put in US Treasury. When the recession is
going
> > further, the yield & benefit of it is only exercised for
subsidizing the
> > Neverland's crisis. In turn, it CAN bubble inflation & spread
throughout
> > the worlds.
> >
> > When it occurs, the world's economy can be in the lost decade.
> > Properties, on the other hand, CAN'T be a safe-heaven as well. Yet,
> > infrastructure development is COSTLY. Precious metals might do
save but
> > the world's economy is fixed in the Neverland's fiat currency and
leave
> > other countries paralyzed.
> >
> > Don't be fed up with how equity market has been on the way because the
> > truth is 'as the way it is'. It is still miles away to go up.
> >
> > Meanwhile, let me recall again:
> >
> > Clear up soon domestic homeworks before things fall any further.
> > Indonesia is in dire need of transitional figure who would stand up to
> > what they believe.
> >
> > When times of up come along, only clear state of equity business
> > practices can guarantee IHSG to grow along its international benchmark
> > market.
> >
> > For dear investors, stick back to growth stocks, clean clean growth
> > stocks. Never be mystified by the reborn of cyclical stock.
> >
> > For traders, hit & run will still be ON.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ratusima,
> >
> > The United Kingdom of Kalingga, Java
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > + +
> > + + + + +
> > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> > + + + + +
> > + +Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>




[obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik FromBuitenzorg
Ratu Sima nongol waktu bear aja ...hehehe... kita patahkan semangat 
bearishnya :-)

Rgrds


anru dadaq  wrote:
>
> Walah2, Ratu Sima dr Kalingga, Kediri. Makanya doyan rokok n minum
> bir. Keliling dunia? Go global?
> GGRM, MLBI, IATA?
> Ko jd meramal nee??? :)
> 
> On 17/02/2009, RATU SIMA  wrote:
> > Dear Sylar_Fang,
> >
> > While enjoying my evening's cigar & a glass of red wine here, 
I'll explain a
> > little:
> > A great investor will only concentrate on growth stocks, of which 
its
> > CANSLIM requirements are duly met.
> > S/he will verify their fundamental real condition, such as 
earning growth,
> > QonQ comparison, clean corporate governance, strong expansion 
(but not based
> > on credit system), sound subsidiaries, and so on so forth.
> >
> > Contrary to growth stocks, a great investor does not fully trust 
the
> > cyclical stock. The merit of cyclical stock is exercised by big 
fund /
> > market maker of which price movement isn't energized by its 
CANSLIM, BUT
> > merely on the strength within the market makers.
> >
> > For scalpers, swingers, intraday traders who are skilled and 
trained, it
> > might give them additional profit in relatively little by little 
amount due
> > to the thin volume & price range that real time market 
relinquishes.
> >
> > Unfortunately for investors, the risk might not be equal to its 
reward.
> > Worse when such cyclical stock is occupied & owned by big fund / 
financial
> > institutions, it could tumble the whole aggregate stock index 
miserably
> > because its cap market enables it to do so.
> >
> > Under this circumstance, the overall stock market condition is 
NOT SOUND
> > YET.
> >
> > Love,
> > Aimee from Guang Zhou
> >
>




[obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik edwinkdr

Ratu Sima, Kalingga kog dr Kediri tho Pak :-)

He he

Bukannya Jepara ?

http://jv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karajan_Kalingga

Karajan Kalingga iku salah siji karajan tua ing Nusantara tegesé ing
tlatah Jawa dhaerah Kecamatan Keling, Kabupaten Jepara saiki. Karajan
iki wis ana ing taun 640 Masehi, Ratune sing musuwur yaiku Ratu Sima.



Status saat ini :

http://www.google.com/finance

Sector  Change  % down / up
Basic Materials -5.63%  
Capital Goods   -4.77%  
Conglomerates   -5.09%  
Cons. Cyclical  -3.51%  
Cons. Non-Cyclical -2.62%
Energy  -6.36%  
Financial   -6.46%  
Healthcare  -1.94%
Services-4.11%
Technology  -4.59%
Transportation  -4.69%
Utilities   -3.00%  


Kita lihat apa yg terjadi di BEI :-)

http://sg.finance.yahoo.com/q/cq?s=^DJI,^FTSE,01.SS,^N225,^HSI,^STI,^JKSE,^JKAGRI,^JKFINA,^JKINFA,^JKMING


Tks

Best regards



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, anru dadaq  wrote:
>
> Walah2, Ratu Sima dr Kalingga, Kediri. Makanya doyan rokok n minum
> bir. Keliling dunia? Go global?
> GGRM, MLBI, IATA?
> Ko jd meramal nee??? :)
> 
> On 17/02/2009, RATU SIMA  wrote:
> > Dear Sylar_Fang,
> >
> > While enjoying my evening's cigar & a glass of red wine here, I'll
explain a
> > little:
> > A great investor will only concentrate on growth stocks, of which its
> > CANSLIM requirements are duly met.
> > S/he will verify their fundamental real condition, such as earning
growth,
> > QonQ comparison, clean corporate governance, strong expansion (but
not based
> > on credit system), sound subsidiaries, and so on so forth.
> >
> > Contrary to growth stocks, a great investor does not fully trust the
> > cyclical stock. The merit of cyclical stock is exercised by big fund /
> > market maker of which price movement isn't energized by its
CANSLIM, BUT
> > merely on the strength within the market makers.
> >
> > For scalpers, swingers, intraday traders who are skilled and
trained, it
> > might give them additional profit in relatively little by little
amount due
> > to the thin volume & price range that real time market relinquishes.
> >
> > Unfortunately for investors, the risk might not be equal to its
reward.
> > Worse when such cyclical stock is occupied & owned by big fund /
financial
> > institutions, it could tumble the whole aggregate stock index
miserably
> > because its cap market enables it to do so.
> >
> > Under this circumstance, the overall stock market condition is NOT
SOUND
> > YET.
> >
> > Love,
> > Aimee from Guang Zhou
> >
>




Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik anru dadaq
Walah2, Ratu Sima dr Kalingga, Kediri. Makanya doyan rokok n minum
bir. Keliling dunia? Go global?
GGRM, MLBI, IATA?
Ko jd meramal nee??? :)

On 17/02/2009, RATU SIMA  wrote:
> Dear Sylar_Fang,
>
> While enjoying my evening's cigar & a glass of red wine here, I'll explain a
> little:
> A great investor will only concentrate on growth stocks, of which its
> CANSLIM requirements are duly met.
> S/he will verify their fundamental real condition, such as earning growth,
> QonQ comparison, clean corporate governance, strong expansion (but not based
> on credit system), sound subsidiaries, and so on so forth.
>
> Contrary to growth stocks, a great investor does not fully trust the
> cyclical stock. The merit of cyclical stock is exercised by big fund /
> market maker of which price movement isn't energized by its CANSLIM, BUT
> merely on the strength within the market makers.
>
> For scalpers, swingers, intraday traders who are skilled and trained, it
> might give them additional profit in relatively little by little amount due
> to the thin volume & price range that real time market relinquishes.
>
> Unfortunately for investors, the risk might not be equal to its reward.
> Worse when such cyclical stock is occupied & owned by big fund / financial
> institutions, it could tumble the whole aggregate stock index miserably
> because its cap market enables it to do so.
>
> Under this circumstance, the overall stock market condition is NOT SOUND
> YET.
>
> Love,
> Aimee from Guang Zhou
>


[obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik Petualang Saham
Besok Jenderal maju dulu yaa...
Gw masih pengen nonton nih, nunggu umpan lambungnya Jendral...
He3x...


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, artomoro9  wrote:
>
> 
> GITU AJA KOK REPOT
> 
> JT wrote: 
> > Apalagi yg mirip-mirip cigar Mbah Hehe..
> > 
> >  Kabuuur..
> > Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by ISAT
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "jsx_consultant" 
> > 
> > Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:53:03 
> > To: 
> > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED
> > 
> > 
> > Ieu Awewe resep cigar euy... hehehe... 
> > 
> > (ini wanita suka serutu) 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, RATU SIMA  wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear Sylar_Fang,
> >> 
> >> While enjoying my evening's cigar & a glass of red wine here, I'll 
> > explain a
> >> little:
> >> A great investor will only concentrate on growth stocks, of which 
> > its
> >> CANSLIM requirements are duly met.
> >> S/he will verify their fundamental real condition, such as earning 
> > growth,
> >> QonQ comparison, clean corporate governance, strong expansion (but 
> > not based
> >> on credit system), sound subsidiaries, and so on so forth.
> >> 
> >> Contrary to growth stocks, a great investor does not fully trust the
> >> cyclical stock. The merit of cyclical stock is exercised by big 
> > fund /
> >> market maker of which price movement isn't energized by its 
> > CANSLIM, BUT
> >> merely on the strength within the market makers.
> >> 
> >> For scalpers, swingers, intraday traders who are skilled and 
> > trained, it
> >> might give them additional profit in relatively little by little 
> > amount due
> >> to the thin volume & price range that real time market relinquishes.
> >> 
> >> Unfortunately for investors, the risk might not be equal to its 
> > reward.
> >> Worse when such cyclical stock is occupied & owned by big fund / 
> > financial
> >> institutions, it could tumble the whole aggregate stock index 
> > miserably
> >> because its cap market enables it to do so.
> >> 
> >> Under this circumstance, the overall stock market condition is NOT 
> > SOUND
> >> YET.
> >> 
> >> Love,
> >> Aimee from Guang Zhou
> >>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > + +
> > + + + + +
> > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus 
> > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> > + + + + +
> > + +Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > + +
> > + + + + +
> > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus 
> > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> > + + + + +
> > + +Yahoo! Groups Links
> > Individual Email | Traditional
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> 
> 
> 
>  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik artomoro9

GITU AJA KOK REPOT

JT wrote: 
> Apalagi yg mirip-mirip cigar Mbah Hehe..
> 
>  Kabuuur..
> Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by ISAT
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "jsx_consultant" 
> 
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:53:03 
> To: 
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED
> 
> 
> Ieu Awewe resep cigar euy... hehehe... 
> 
> (ini wanita suka serutu) 
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, RATU SIMA  wrote:
>>
>> Dear Sylar_Fang,
>> 
>> While enjoying my evening's cigar & a glass of red wine here, I'll 
> explain a
>> little:
>> A great investor will only concentrate on growth stocks, of which 
> its
>> CANSLIM requirements are duly met.
>> S/he will verify their fundamental real condition, such as earning 
> growth,
>> QonQ comparison, clean corporate governance, strong expansion (but 
> not based
>> on credit system), sound subsidiaries, and so on so forth.
>> 
>> Contrary to growth stocks, a great investor does not fully trust the
>> cyclical stock. The merit of cyclical stock is exercised by big 
> fund /
>> market maker of which price movement isn't energized by its 
> CANSLIM, BUT
>> merely on the strength within the market makers.
>> 
>> For scalpers, swingers, intraday traders who are skilled and 
> trained, it
>> might give them additional profit in relatively little by little 
> amount due
>> to the thin volume & price range that real time market relinquishes.
>> 
>> Unfortunately for investors, the risk might not be equal to its 
> reward.
>> Worse when such cyclical stock is occupied & owned by big fund / 
> financial
>> institutions, it could tumble the whole aggregate stock index 
> miserably
>> because its cap market enables it to do so.
>> 
>> Under this circumstance, the overall stock market condition is NOT 
> SOUND
>> YET.
>> 
>> Love,
>> Aimee from Guang Zhou
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> + +
> + + + + +
> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus 
> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> + + + + +
> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
> 
> + +
> + + + + +
> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus 
> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> + + + + +
> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
> Individual Email | Traditional
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik artomoro9

GITU AJA KOK REPOT

JT wrote: 
> Apalagi yg mirip-mirip cigar Mbah Hehe..
> 
>  Kabuuur..
> Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by ISAT
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "jsx_consultant" 
> 
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:53:03 
> To: 
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED
> 
> 
> Ieu Awewe resep cigar euy... hehehe... 
> 
> (ini wanita suka serutu) 
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, RATU SIMA  wrote:
>>
>> Dear Sylar_Fang,
>> 
>> While enjoying my evening's cigar & a glass of red wine here, I'll 
> explain a
>> little:
>> A great investor will only concentrate on growth stocks, of which 
> its
>> CANSLIM requirements are duly met.
>> S/he will verify their fundamental real condition, such as earning 
> growth,
>> QonQ comparison, clean corporate governance, strong expansion (but 
> not based
>> on credit system), sound subsidiaries, and so on so forth.
>> 
>> Contrary to growth stocks, a great investor does not fully trust the
>> cyclical stock. The merit of cyclical stock is exercised by big 
> fund /
>> market maker of which price movement isn't energized by its 
> CANSLIM, BUT
>> merely on the strength within the market makers.
>> 
>> For scalpers, swingers, intraday traders who are skilled and 
> trained, it
>> might give them additional profit in relatively little by little 
> amount due
>> to the thin volume & price range that real time market relinquishes.
>> 
>> Unfortunately for investors, the risk might not be equal to its 
> reward.
>> Worse when such cyclical stock is occupied & owned by big fund / 
> financial
>> institutions, it could tumble the whole aggregate stock index 
> miserably
>> because its cap market enables it to do so.
>> 
>> Under this circumstance, the overall stock market condition is NOT 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik artomoro9

GITU AJA KOK REPOT

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> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: "jsx_consultant" 
> 
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:53:03 
> To: 
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> 
> 
> Ieu Awewe resep cigar euy... hehehe... 
> 
> (ini wanita suka serutu) 
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, RATU SIMA  wrote:
>>
>> Dear Sylar_Fang,
>> 
>> While enjoying my evening's cigar & a glass of red wine here, I'll 
> explain a
>> little:
>> A great investor will only concentrate on growth stocks, of which 
> its
>> CANSLIM requirements are duly met.
>> S/he will verify their fundamental real condition, such as earning 
> growth,
>> QonQ comparison, clean corporate governance, strong expansion (but 
> not based
>> on credit system), sound subsidiaries, and so on so forth.
>> 
>> Contrary to growth stocks, a great investor does not fully trust the
>> cyclical stock. The merit of cyclical stock is exercised by big 
> fund /
>> market maker of which price movement isn't energized by its 
> CANSLIM, BUT
>> merely on the strength within the market makers.
>> 
>> For scalpers, swingers, intraday traders who are skilled and 
> trained, it
>> might give them additional profit in relatively little by little 
> amount due
>> to the thin volume & price range that real time market relinquishes.
>> 
>> Unfortunately for investors, the risk might not be equal to its 
> reward.
>> Worse when such cyclical stock is occupied & owned by big fund / 
> financial
>> institutions, it could tumble the whole aggregate stock index 
> miserably
>> because its cap market enables it to do so.
>> 
>> Under this circumstance, the overall stock market condition is NOT 
> SOUND
>> YET.
>> 
>> Love,
>> Aimee from Guang Zhou
>>
> 
> 
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik JT
baru mau diganti jadi BearBerry..., hehe, soale garis pertahanan terakhir
saya di 7882 akhirnya jebol juga.., anticipate for lower low, kalau ada
posisi 'amankan' dulu.., re-enter jika balik lagi ke 7882 within 3 days...,
ini asusmsinya kalau IHSG inline dgn DOW ya, tapi IHSG suka melawan arus..,
well, kalau itu terjadi, kesempatan bagus buat exit dulu..., gak usah takut
ditinggal, paling ilang 2-3 point, consider it as insurance cost...
(disclaimer)

Tapi kalau nanti atau besok mental balik dan masuk lagi ke atas 7882, saya
pake BullBearry lagi..., hehe

JT

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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:57:25 
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Apalagi yg mirip-mirip cigar Mbah Hehe..

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From: "jsx_consultant" 

Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:53:03 
To: 
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED


Ieu Awewe resep cigar euy... hehehe... 

(ini wanita suka serutu) 


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, RATU SIMA  wrote:
>
> Dear Sylar_Fang,
> 
> While enjoying my evening's cigar & a glass of red wine here, I'll 
explain a
> little:
> A great investor will only concentrate on growth stocks, of which 
its
> CANSLIM requirements are duly met.
> S/he will verify their fundamental real condition, such as earning 
growth,
> QonQ comparison, clean corporate governance, strong expansion (but 
not based
> on credit system), sound subsidiaries, and so on so forth.
> 
> Contrary to growth stocks, a great investor does not fully trust the
> cyclical stock. The merit of cyclical stock is exercised by big 
fund /
> market maker of which price movement isn't energized by its 
CANSLIM, BUT
> merely on the strength within the market makers.
> 
> For scalpers, swingers, intraday traders who are skilled and 
trained, it
> might give them additional profit in relatively little by little 
amount due
> to the thin volume & price range that real time market relinquishes.
> 
> Unfortunately for investors, the risk might not be equal to its 
reward.
> Worse when such cyclical stock is occupied & owned by big fund / 
financial
> institutions, it could tumble the whole aggregate stock index 
miserably
> because its cap market enables it to do so.
> 
> Under this circumstance, the overall stock market condition is NOT 
SOUND
> YET.
> 
> Love,
> Aimee from Guang Zhou
>






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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik Rei
Huahahahaha...asli ngakak!

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:57 PM, JT  wrote:

> Apalagi yg mirip-mirip cigar Mbah Hehe..
>
>  Kabuuur..
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> -Original Message-
> From: "jsx_consultant" 
>
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:53:03
> To: 
>  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED
>
>
> Ieu Awewe resep cigar euy... hehehe...
>
> (ini wanita suka serutu)
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, RATU SIMA  wrote:
> >
> > Dear Sylar_Fang,
> >
> > While enjoying my evening's cigar & a glass of red wine here, I'll
> explain a
> > little:
> > A great investor will only concentrate on growth stocks, of which
> its
> > CANSLIM requirements are duly met.
> > S/he will verify their fundamental real condition, such as earning
> growth,
> > QonQ comparison, clean corporate governance, strong expansion (but
> not based
> > on credit system), sound subsidiaries, and so on so forth.
> >
> > Contrary to growth stocks, a great investor does not fully trust the
> > cyclical stock. The merit of cyclical stock is exercised by big
> fund /
> > market maker of which price movement isn't energized by its
> CANSLIM, BUT
> > merely on the strength within the market makers.
> >
> > For scalpers, swingers, intraday traders who are skilled and
> trained, it
> > might give them additional profit in relatively little by little
> amount due
> > to the thin volume & price range that real time market relinquishes.
> >
> > Unfortunately for investors, the risk might not be equal to its
> reward.
> > Worse when such cyclical stock is occupied & owned by big fund /
> financial
> > institutions, it could tumble the whole aggregate stock index
> miserably
> > because its cap market enables it to do so.
> >
> > Under this circumstance, the overall stock market condition is NOT
> SOUND
> > YET.
> >
> > Love,
> > Aimee from Guang Zhou
> >
>
>
>
>
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik jkunci
Wanita emang sangat 'suka' cerutu Bah... Ya namanya juga wanita. Dan cerutu 
juga sangat suka wanita, namanya jg 'Cerutu'. He he
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-Original Message-
From: "jsx_consultant" 

Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:53:03 
To: 
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED


Ieu Awewe resep cigar euy... hehehe... 

(ini wanita suka serutu) 


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, RATU SIMA  wrote:
>
> Dear Sylar_Fang,
> 
> While enjoying my evening's cigar & a glass of red wine here, I'll 
explain a
> little:
> A great investor will only concentrate on growth stocks, of which 
its
> CANSLIM requirements are duly met.
> S/he will verify their fundamental real condition, such as earning 
growth,
> QonQ comparison, clean corporate governance, strong expansion (but 
not based
> on credit system), sound subsidiaries, and so on so forth.
> 
> Contrary to growth stocks, a great investor does not fully trust the
> cyclical stock. The merit of cyclical stock is exercised by big 
fund /
> market maker of which price movement isn't energized by its 
CANSLIM, BUT
> merely on the strength within the market makers.
> 
> For scalpers, swingers, intraday traders who are skilled and 
trained, it
> might give them additional profit in relatively little by little 
amount due
> to the thin volume & price range that real time market relinquishes.
> 
> Unfortunately for investors, the risk might not be equal to its 
reward.
> Worse when such cyclical stock is occupied & owned by big fund / 
financial
> institutions, it could tumble the whole aggregate stock index 
miserably
> because its cap market enables it to do so.
> 
> Under this circumstance, the overall stock market condition is NOT 
SOUND
> YET.
> 
> Love,
> Aimee from Guang Zhou
>





Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik John Sun
pak JT ikut kabur ah.. tkt..





From: JT 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 7:57:25 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

Apalagi yg mirip-mirip cigar Mbah Hehe..

Kabuuur..
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-Original Message-
From: "jsx_consultant" 

Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:53:03 
To: 
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED


Ieu Awewe resep cigar euy... hehehe... 

(ini wanita suka serutu) 


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, RATU SIMA  wrote:
>
> Dear Sylar_Fang,
> 
> While enjoying my evening's cigar & a glass of red wine here, I'll 
explain a
> little:
> A great investor will only concentrate on growth stocks, of which 
its
> CANSLIM requirements are duly met.
> S/he will verify their fundamental real condition, such as earning 
growth,
> QonQ comparison, clean corporate governance, strong expansion (but 
not based
> on credit system), sound subsidiaries, and so on so forth.
> 
> Contrary to growth stocks, a great investor does not fully trust the
> cyclical stock. The merit of cyclical stock is exercised by big 
fund /
> market maker of which price movement isn't energized by its 
CANSLIM, BUT
> merely on the strength within the market makers.
> 
> For scalpers, swingers, intraday traders who are skilled and 
trained, it
> might give them additional profit in relatively little by little 
amount due
> to the thin volume & price range that real time market relinquishes.
> 
> Unfortunately for investors, the risk might not be equal to its 
reward.
> Worse when such cyclical stock is occupied & owned by big fund / 
financial
> institutions, it could tumble the whole aggregate stock index 
miserably
> because its cap market enables it to do so.
> 
> Under this circumstance, the overall stock market condition is NOT 
SOUND
> YET.
> 
> Love,
> Aimee from Guang Zhou
>






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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik soemringah
Pak JT sdh ga pake BullBerry? Kok dah diganti BlackBerry???
Si Bull apa sdh ngumpet???

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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:57:25 
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-Original Message-
From: "jsx_consultant" 

Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:53:03 
To: 
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED


Ieu Awewe resep cigar euy... hehehe... 

(ini wanita suka serutu) 


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, RATU SIMA  wrote:
>
> Dear Sylar_Fang,
> 
> While enjoying my evening's cigar & a glass of red wine here, I'll 
explain a
> little:
> A great investor will only concentrate on growth stocks, of which 
its
> CANSLIM requirements are duly met.
> S/he will verify their fundamental real condition, such as earning 
growth,
> QonQ comparison, clean corporate governance, strong expansion (but 
not based
> on credit system), sound subsidiaries, and so on so forth.
> 
> Contrary to growth stocks, a great investor does not fully trust the
> cyclical stock. The merit of cyclical stock is exercised by big 
fund /
> market maker of which price movement isn't energized by its 
CANSLIM, BUT
> merely on the strength within the market makers.
> 
> For scalpers, swingers, intraday traders who are skilled and 
trained, it
> might give them additional profit in relatively little by little 
amount due
> to the thin volume & price range that real time market relinquishes.
> 
> Unfortunately for investors, the risk might not be equal to its 
reward.
> Worse when such cyclical stock is occupied & owned by big fund / 
financial
> institutions, it could tumble the whole aggregate stock index 
miserably
> because its cap market enables it to do so.
> 
> Under this circumstance, the overall stock market condition is NOT 
SOUND
> YET.
> 
> Love,
> Aimee from Guang Zhou
>






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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik RATU SIMA
Dear Yudizz,

Comparison to that of 1930 is very close, though not identical.
If you peruse the Great Depression Case, its total cap market that was swept
away was revolving round 85 - 90%.

Please follow on the pattern between 1929 - 1932 of Dow's. Then compare to
the chart of 2008 - 2010 (at least 2009 1 Q), the journey of bottoming out
is still on the way. (though people don't prefer to it)

History repeat itself. Growth or even more to speak 'bubbling' take years to
uplift to its culmination point before it falls down to its lowest bottom
(nadir) resembling the theory of relativity and gravitation. This concept is
widely used by big players, among other things hedge fund players and
futures index market makers.

It explains why the current downturn will not reverse in 'overnight'. Prove
it in oil price movement and relate it to war syndrome (of course Middle
East) will always be the first target. Don't forget the oil hoarders' spot.

Love,
Aimee


Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik indeksbei3000
Kalimat pembuka nya mirip si BK Mbah..
While enjoying my goomach... Bla..bla..
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-Original Message-
From: "jsx_consultant" 

Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:53:03 
To: 
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED


Ieu Awewe resep cigar euy... hehehe... 

(ini wanita suka serutu) 


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, RATU SIMA  wrote:
>
> Dear Sylar_Fang,
> 
> While enjoying my evening's cigar & a glass of red wine here, I'll 
explain a
> little:
> A great investor will only concentrate on growth stocks, of which 
its
> CANSLIM requirements are duly met.
> S/he will verify their fundamental real condition, such as earning 
growth,
> QonQ comparison, clean corporate governance, strong expansion (but 
not based
> on credit system), sound subsidiaries, and so on so forth.
> 
> Contrary to growth stocks, a great investor does not fully trust the
> cyclical stock. The merit of cyclical stock is exercised by big 
fund /
> market maker of which price movement isn't energized by its 
CANSLIM, BUT
> merely on the strength within the market makers.
> 
> For scalpers, swingers, intraday traders who are skilled and 
trained, it
> might give them additional profit in relatively little by little 
amount due
> to the thin volume & price range that real time market relinquishes.
> 
> Unfortunately for investors, the risk might not be equal to its 
reward.
> Worse when such cyclical stock is occupied & owned by big fund / 
financial
> institutions, it could tumble the whole aggregate stock index 
miserably
> because its cap market enables it to do so.
> 
> Under this circumstance, the overall stock market condition is NOT 
SOUND
> YET.
> 
> Love,
> Aimee from Guang Zhou
>





[obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik sylar_fang

... wah thanks atas penjelasan na ratu ... ane baca posting an ratu 
sambil menyeruput secangkir kopi tubruk panas dan bbrp potong tempe 
goreng ... :) ... blom mampu beli cigar ... hehehe ... anyway 
thanks ... kl mbah mbah ama pak jsx sambil ngapaiin ya ?? ... 
hehehe ...

:)


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> 
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:53:03 
> To: 
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED
> 
> 
> Ieu Awewe resep cigar euy... hehehe... 
> 
> (ini wanita suka serutu) 
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, RATU SIMA  wrote:
> >
> > Dear Sylar_Fang,
> > 
> > While enjoying my evening's cigar & a glass of red wine here, 
I'll 
> explain a
> > little:
> > A great investor will only concentrate on growth stocks, of 
which 
> its
> 



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik RATU SIMA
Hi Embah, this noon call from a counterpart in Vienna revealed that the real
market condition in East Europe is clinically dead, some affirmed.

Austria is in West Europe but its economy has been one of lead.

He said the debt the region owns has staggered its own GDP.

That's why Dow Fut has suffered a bit redding. Yet that's not about all.

I'll find out the real street report from there & report to you what's it
all been boiling down to.

Take care your capital and utmostly preserve your profit.

Love,
Aimee


[obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik y_dizz
You mean this situation like Dow in 1930..??

So it tooks a long time, maybe half of our life, to see our stock 
back to the value when we bought it last year. But, we agree that for 
previous month, we get lot of gain from this swing.

Regards,
Yudizz


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, RATU SIMA  wrote:
>
> Dear Sylar_Fang,
> 
> While enjoying my evening's cigar & a glass of red wine here, I'll 
explain a
> little:
> A great investor will only concentrate on growth stocks, of which 
its
> CANSLIM requirements are duly met.
> S/he will verify their fundamental real condition, such as earning 
growth,
> QonQ comparison, clean corporate governance, strong expansion (but 
not based
> on credit system), sound subsidiaries, and so on so forth.
> 
> Contrary to growth stocks, a great investor does not fully trust the
> cyclical stock. The merit of cyclical stock is exercised by big 
fund /
> market maker of which price movement isn't energized by its 
CANSLIM, BUT
> merely on the strength within the market makers.
> 
> For scalpers, swingers, intraday traders who are skilled and 
trained, it
> might give them additional profit in relatively little by little 
amount due
> to the thin volume & price range that real time market relinquishes.
> 
> Unfortunately for investors, the risk might not be equal to its 
reward.
> Worse when such cyclical stock is occupied & owned by big fund / 
financial
> institutions, it could tumble the whole aggregate stock index 
miserably
> because its cap market enables it to do so.
> 
> Under this circumstance, the overall stock market condition is NOT 
SOUND
> YET.
> 
> Love,
> Aimee from Guang Zhou
>




Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik JT
Apalagi yg mirip-mirip cigar Mbah Hehe..

 Kabuuur..
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From: "jsx_consultant" 

Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:53:03 
To: 
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED


Ieu Awewe resep cigar euy... hehehe... 

(ini wanita suka serutu) 


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, RATU SIMA  wrote:
>
> Dear Sylar_Fang,
> 
> While enjoying my evening's cigar & a glass of red wine here, I'll 
explain a
> little:
> A great investor will only concentrate on growth stocks, of which 
its
> CANSLIM requirements are duly met.
> S/he will verify their fundamental real condition, such as earning 
growth,
> QonQ comparison, clean corporate governance, strong expansion (but 
not based
> on credit system), sound subsidiaries, and so on so forth.
> 
> Contrary to growth stocks, a great investor does not fully trust the
> cyclical stock. The merit of cyclical stock is exercised by big 
fund /
> market maker of which price movement isn't energized by its 
CANSLIM, BUT
> merely on the strength within the market makers.
> 
> For scalpers, swingers, intraday traders who are skilled and 
trained, it
> might give them additional profit in relatively little by little 
amount due
> to the thin volume & price range that real time market relinquishes.
> 
> Unfortunately for investors, the risk might not be equal to its 
reward.
> Worse when such cyclical stock is occupied & owned by big fund / 
financial
> institutions, it could tumble the whole aggregate stock index 
miserably
> because its cap market enables it to do so.
> 
> Under this circumstance, the overall stock market condition is NOT 
SOUND
> YET.
> 
> Love,
> Aimee from Guang Zhou
>






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[obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Ieu Awewe resep cigar euy... hehehe... 

(ini wanita suka serutu) 


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, RATU SIMA  wrote:
>
> Dear Sylar_Fang,
> 
> While enjoying my evening's cigar & a glass of red wine here, I'll 
explain a
> little:
> A great investor will only concentrate on growth stocks, of which 
its
> CANSLIM requirements are duly met.
> S/he will verify their fundamental real condition, such as earning 
growth,
> QonQ comparison, clean corporate governance, strong expansion (but 
not based
> on credit system), sound subsidiaries, and so on so forth.
> 
> Contrary to growth stocks, a great investor does not fully trust the
> cyclical stock. The merit of cyclical stock is exercised by big 
fund /
> market maker of which price movement isn't energized by its 
CANSLIM, BUT
> merely on the strength within the market makers.
> 
> For scalpers, swingers, intraday traders who are skilled and 
trained, it
> might give them additional profit in relatively little by little 
amount due
> to the thin volume & price range that real time market relinquishes.
> 
> Unfortunately for investors, the risk might not be equal to its 
reward.
> Worse when such cyclical stock is occupied & owned by big fund / 
financial
> institutions, it could tumble the whole aggregate stock index 
miserably
> because its cap market enables it to do so.
> 
> Under this circumstance, the overall stock market condition is NOT 
SOUND
> YET.
> 
> Love,
> Aimee from Guang Zhou
>




Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik RATU SIMA
Dear Sylar_Fang,

While enjoying my evening's cigar & a glass of red wine here, I'll explain a
little:
A great investor will only concentrate on growth stocks, of which its
CANSLIM requirements are duly met.
S/he will verify their fundamental real condition, such as earning growth,
QonQ comparison, clean corporate governance, strong expansion (but not based
on credit system), sound subsidiaries, and so on so forth.

Contrary to growth stocks, a great investor does not fully trust the
cyclical stock. The merit of cyclical stock is exercised by big fund /
market maker of which price movement isn't energized by its CANSLIM, BUT
merely on the strength within the market makers.

For scalpers, swingers, intraday traders who are skilled and trained, it
might give them additional profit in relatively little by little amount due
to the thin volume & price range that real time market relinquishes.

Unfortunately for investors, the risk might not be equal to its reward.
Worse when such cyclical stock is occupied & owned by big fund / financial
institutions, it could tumble the whole aggregate stock index miserably
because its cap market enables it to do so.

Under this circumstance, the overall stock market condition is NOT SOUND
YET.

Love,
Aimee from Guang Zhou


[obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik sylar_fang

.. hobby na ama yg merah2 kali pak :) ... btw ane gak ngerti nih 
mksd na nih RATU ...

... ada yg bisa bantu ane gak buat ngartiiin mksd na RATU kita 
ini 

... "stick back to growth stocks ... abis itu clean clean growth 
stocks ... Never be mystified by the reborn of cyclical 
stock ?? ... "

.. kaga ngarti udah stick back to growth stocks .. abis itu 
clean2 ? .. so klin kah ?? :D ... tlg artiin ya ... thanksss ...

:)
--- > 2009/2/17 JT 
> 
> >   Kenapa sih Ratu kita yg satu ini nongolnya kalau market lagi 
merah dalem
> > aja? Kasih insight-nya kalau lagi Ijo atuh Mba
> >
> > JT
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> > obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ]
> > On Behalf Of Ratu Sima
> > Sent: 17 Februari 2009 14:52
> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
> > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] THE TRUTH UNVEILED
> >
> >
> > For dear investors, stick back to growth stocks, clean clean 
growth
> > stocks. Never be mystified by the reborn of cyclical stock.
> >
> > For traders, hit & run will still be ON.
> >
> > Ratusima,
> >
> > The United Kingdom of Kalingga, Java
> >
> > 
> >
>




Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik RATU SIMA
Tomorrow I'm leaving Guang Zhou and heading to Vienna, Austria.
I promise you to report the current crisis development from there & share
with you from some business counterparts' viewpoint.

Please take care of your capital, and most importantly preserve your profit.

Aimee,
>From Guang Zhou


Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik indeksbei3000
Ratu pernah Posting Bullish jg loh.
2x kalau tdk salah.
But it failed. :(
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...!

-Original Message-
From: "icchanks" 

Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:17:06 
To: 
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED


Bung JT, Diakan cuman liat Dow Futures merah dalam trus muncul,,,hehhehe
Coba kalau Dow Futures Ijo tebal, berani muncul dak Ratu Huuhuhuhu...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "JT"  wrote:

>
> Kenapa sih Ratu kita yg satu ini nongolnya kalau market lagi merah dalem
> aja? Kasih insight-nya kalau lagi Ijo atuh Mba
> 
> JT
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Ratu Sima
> Sent: 17 Februari 2009 14:52
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] THE TRUTH UNVEILED
> 
> 
> Aimee CAN'T see no more how slow & retarded the process of conspiracy
> clearing within SP & its alike.
> 
> With how tough the market has been underway nowadays, this case MUST be
> tackled promptly & rightly.
> 
> How national stock market CAN BE further saved if the common investors
> are poorly protected & appreciated.
> 
> In the Big General's Regime, there are people above the law BUT now
> there should be more people en masse against them or it will continue to
> be Zero Sum Game.
> 
> Let me be straight:
> 
> This long deflationary period WON'T last too long. By the 3rd Quarter of
> this year, it will jump into INFLATION. This tight-preservation  of
> interest rate of 'Wait & See' Game WILL eventually blow up & turn the
> cycle around.
> 
> I have been in China for days & people have started to worry about the
> 2000 B currency reserve put in US Treasury. When the recession is going
> further, the yield & benefit of it is only exercised for subsidizing the
> Neverland's crisis. In turn, it CAN bubble inflation & spread throughout
> the worlds.
> 
> When it occurs, the world's economy can be in the lost decade.
> Properties, on the other hand, CAN'T be a safe-heaven as well. Yet,
> infrastructure development is COSTLY. Precious metals might do save but
> the world's economy is fixed in the Neverland's fiat currency and leave
> other countries paralyzed.
> 
> Don't be fed up with how equity market has been on the way because the
> truth is 'as the way it is'. It is still miles away to go up.
> 
> Meanwhile, let me recall again:
> 
> Clear up soon domestic homeworks before things fall any further.
> Indonesia is in dire need of transitional figure who would stand up to
> what they believe.
> 
> When times of up come along, only clear state of equity business
> practices can guarantee IHSG to grow along its international benchmark
> market.
> 
> For dear investors, stick back to growth stocks, clean clean growth
> stocks. Never be mystified by the reborn of cyclical stock.
> 
> For traders, hit & run will still be ON.
> 
> 
> 
> Ratusima,
> 
> The United Kingdom of Kalingga, Java
>





[obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik icchanks
Bung JT, Diakan cuman liat Dow Futures merah dalam trus muncul,,,hehhehe
Coba kalau Dow Futures Ijo tebal, berani muncul dak Ratu Huuhuhuhu...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "JT"  wrote:

>
> Kenapa sih Ratu kita yg satu ini nongolnya kalau market lagi merah dalem
> aja? Kasih insight-nya kalau lagi Ijo atuh Mba
> 
> JT
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Ratu Sima
> Sent: 17 Februari 2009 14:52
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] THE TRUTH UNVEILED
> 
> 
> Aimee CAN'T see no more how slow & retarded the process of conspiracy
> clearing within SP & its alike.
> 
> With how tough the market has been underway nowadays, this case MUST be
> tackled promptly & rightly.
> 
> How national stock market CAN BE further saved if the common investors
> are poorly protected & appreciated.
> 
> In the Big General's Regime, there are people above the law BUT now
> there should be more people en masse against them or it will continue to
> be Zero Sum Game.
> 
> Let me be straight:
> 
> This long deflationary period WON'T last too long. By the 3rd Quarter of
> this year, it will jump into INFLATION. This tight-preservation  of
> interest rate of 'Wait & See' Game WILL eventually blow up & turn the
> cycle around.
> 
> I have been in China for days & people have started to worry about the
> 2000 B currency reserve put in US Treasury. When the recession is going
> further, the yield & benefit of it is only exercised for subsidizing the
> Neverland's crisis. In turn, it CAN bubble inflation & spread throughout
> the worlds.
> 
> When it occurs, the world's economy can be in the lost decade.
> Properties, on the other hand, CAN'T be a safe-heaven as well. Yet,
> infrastructure development is COSTLY. Precious metals might do save but
> the world's economy is fixed in the Neverland's fiat currency and leave
> other countries paralyzed.
> 
> Don't be fed up with how equity market has been on the way because the
> truth is 'as the way it is'. It is still miles away to go up.
> 
> Meanwhile, let me recall again:
> 
> Clear up soon domestic homeworks before things fall any further.
> Indonesia is in dire need of transitional figure who would stand up to
> what they believe.
> 
> When times of up come along, only clear state of equity business
> practices can guarantee IHSG to grow along its international benchmark
> market.
> 
> For dear investors, stick back to growth stocks, clean clean growth
> stocks. Never be mystified by the reborn of cyclical stock.
> 
> For traders, hit & run will still be ON.
> 
> 
> 
> Ratusima,
> 
> The United Kingdom of Kalingga, Java
>




[obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik Petualang Saham
Lg dapet kayanya Bro...
Kekekekekkeke...


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "JT"  wrote:
>
> Kenapa sih Ratu kita yg satu ini nongolnya kalau market lagi merah dalem
> aja? Kasih insight-nya kalau lagi Ijo atuh Mba
> 
> JT
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Ratu Sima
> Sent: 17 Februari 2009 14:52
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] THE TRUTH UNVEILED
> 
> 
> Aimee CAN'T see no more how slow & retarded the process of conspiracy
> clearing within SP & its alike.
> 
> With how tough the market has been underway nowadays, this case MUST be
> tackled promptly & rightly.
> 
> How national stock market CAN BE further saved if the common investors
> are poorly protected & appreciated.
> 
> In the Big General's Regime, there are people above the law BUT now
> there should be more people en masse against them or it will continue to
> be Zero Sum Game.
> 
> Let me be straight:
> 
> This long deflationary period WON'T last too long. By the 3rd Quarter of
> this year, it will jump into INFLATION. This tight-preservation  of
> interest rate of 'Wait & See' Game WILL eventually blow up & turn the
> cycle around.
> 
> I have been in China for days & people have started to worry about the
> 2000 B currency reserve put in US Treasury. When the recession is going
> further, the yield & benefit of it is only exercised for subsidizing the
> Neverland's crisis. In turn, it CAN bubble inflation & spread throughout
> the worlds.
> 
> When it occurs, the world's economy can be in the lost decade.
> Properties, on the other hand, CAN'T be a safe-heaven as well. Yet,
> infrastructure development is COSTLY. Precious metals might do save but
> the world's economy is fixed in the Neverland's fiat currency and leave
> other countries paralyzed.
> 
> Don't be fed up with how equity market has been on the way because the
> truth is 'as the way it is'. It is still miles away to go up.
> 
> Meanwhile, let me recall again:
> 
> Clear up soon domestic homeworks before things fall any further.
> Indonesia is in dire need of transitional figure who would stand up to
> what they believe.
> 
> When times of up come along, only clear state of equity business
> practices can guarantee IHSG to grow along its international benchmark
> market.
> 
> For dear investors, stick back to growth stocks, clean clean growth
> stocks. Never be mystified by the reborn of cyclical stock.
> 
> For traders, hit & run will still be ON.
> 
> 
> 
> Ratusima,
> 
> The United Kingdom of Kalingga, Java
>




Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik Mo Cuan
Seperti kata pak DE artinya masih tek tok...
Thank you ratu...

+++
mo cuan pengen spread tek tok yang agak gedean dikitlah...20% gitu hehehe

--- On Tue, 2/17/09, 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Ratu
> Sima"  wrote:

> > For traders, hit & run will still be ON.



  


[obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED---Great Insight !!!

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik conx_2003
ratu sima

pake bahasa indo donk

kasian nih kita2 yg konglomerat desa , kagak ngarti bahasa inggris

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "adjies2000"  wrote:
>
> 
> Thank you Ratu Sima, Great Insight.
> 
> Regards.
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Ratu Sima"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Aimee CAN'T see no more how slow & retarded the process of conspiracy
> > clearing within SP & its alike.
> > 
> > With how tough the market has been underway nowadays, this case
MUST be
> > tackled promptly & rightly.
> > 
> > How national stock market CAN BE further saved if the common investors
> > are poorly protected & appreciated.
> > 
> > In the Big General's Regime, there are people above the law BUT now
> > there should be more people en masse against them or it will
continue to
> > be Zero Sum Game.
> > 
> > Let me be straight:
> > 
> > This long deflationary period WON'T last too long. By the 3rd
Quarter of
> > this year, it will jump into INFLATION. This tight-preservation  of
> > interest rate of 'Wait & See' Game WILL eventually blow up & turn the
> > cycle around.
> > 
> > I have been in China for days & people have started to worry about the
> > 2000 B currency reserve put in US Treasury. When the recession is
going
> > further, the yield & benefit of it is only exercised for
subsidizing the
> > Neverland's crisis. In turn, it CAN bubble inflation & spread
throughout
> > the worlds.
> > 
> > When it occurs, the world's economy can be in the lost decade.
> > Properties, on the other hand, CAN'T be a safe-heaven as well. Yet,
> > infrastructure development is COSTLY. Precious metals might do
save but
> > the world's economy is fixed in the Neverland's fiat currency and
leave
> > other countries paralyzed.
> > 
> > Don't be fed up with how equity market has been on the way because the
> > truth is 'as the way it is'. It is still miles away to go up.
> > 
> > Meanwhile, let me recall again:
> > 
> > Clear up soon domestic homeworks before things fall any further.
> > Indonesia is in dire need of transitional figure who would stand up to
> > what they believe.
> > 
> > When times of up come along, only clear state of equity business
> > practices can guarantee IHSG to grow along its international benchmark
> > market.
> > 
> > For dear investors, stick back to growth stocks, clean clean growth
> > stocks. Never be mystified by the reborn of cyclical stock.
> > 
> > For traders, hit & run will still be ON.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Ratusima,
> > 
> > The United Kingdom of Kalingga, Java
> >
>




[obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED---Great Insight !!!

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik adjies2000

Thank you Ratu Sima, Great Insight.

Regards.


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Ratu Sima"  wrote:
>
> 
> Aimee CAN'T see no more how slow & retarded the process of conspiracy
> clearing within SP & its alike.
> 
> With how tough the market has been underway nowadays, this case MUST be
> tackled promptly & rightly.
> 
> How national stock market CAN BE further saved if the common investors
> are poorly protected & appreciated.
> 
> In the Big General's Regime, there are people above the law BUT now
> there should be more people en masse against them or it will continue to
> be Zero Sum Game.
> 
> Let me be straight:
> 
> This long deflationary period WON'T last too long. By the 3rd Quarter of
> this year, it will jump into INFLATION. This tight-preservation  of
> interest rate of 'Wait & See' Game WILL eventually blow up & turn the
> cycle around.
> 
> I have been in China for days & people have started to worry about the
> 2000 B currency reserve put in US Treasury. When the recession is going
> further, the yield & benefit of it is only exercised for subsidizing the
> Neverland's crisis. In turn, it CAN bubble inflation & spread throughout
> the worlds.
> 
> When it occurs, the world's economy can be in the lost decade.
> Properties, on the other hand, CAN'T be a safe-heaven as well. Yet,
> infrastructure development is COSTLY. Precious metals might do save but
> the world's economy is fixed in the Neverland's fiat currency and leave
> other countries paralyzed.
> 
> Don't be fed up with how equity market has been on the way because the
> truth is 'as the way it is'. It is still miles away to go up.
> 
> Meanwhile, let me recall again:
> 
> Clear up soon domestic homeworks before things fall any further.
> Indonesia is in dire need of transitional figure who would stand up to
> what they believe.
> 
> When times of up come along, only clear state of equity business
> practices can guarantee IHSG to grow along its international benchmark
> market.
> 
> For dear investors, stick back to growth stocks, clean clean growth
> stocks. Never be mystified by the reborn of cyclical stock.
> 
> For traders, hit & run will still be ON.
> 
> 
> 
> Ratusima,
> 
> The United Kingdom of Kalingga, Java
>




[obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik icchanks
WA... DIA MUNCUL LAGI
K A B U R AH.


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Ratu Sima"  wrote:
>
> 
> Aimee CAN'T see no more how slow & retarded the process of conspiracy
> clearing within SP & its alike.
> 
> With how tough the market has been underway nowadays, this case MUST be
> tackled promptly & rightly.
> 
> How national stock market CAN BE further saved if the common investors
> are poorly protected & appreciated.
> 
> In the Big General's Regime, there are people above the law BUT now
> there should be more people en masse against them or it will continue to
> be Zero Sum Game.
> 
> Let me be straight:
> 
> This long deflationary period WON'T last too long. By the 3rd Quarter of
> this year, it will jump into INFLATION. This tight-preservation  of
> interest rate of 'Wait & See' Game WILL eventually blow up & turn the
> cycle around.
> 
> I have been in China for days & people have started to worry about the
> 2000 B currency reserve put in US Treasury. When the recession is going
> further, the yield & benefit of it is only exercised for subsidizing the
> Neverland's crisis. In turn, it CAN bubble inflation & spread throughout
> the worlds.
> 
> When it occurs, the world's economy can be in the lost decade.
> Properties, on the other hand, CAN'T be a safe-heaven as well. Yet,
> infrastructure development is COSTLY. Precious metals might do save but
> the world's economy is fixed in the Neverland's fiat currency and leave
> other countries paralyzed.
> 
> Don't be fed up with how equity market has been on the way because the
> truth is 'as the way it is'. It is still miles away to go up.
> 
> Meanwhile, let me recall again:
> 
> Clear up soon domestic homeworks before things fall any further.
> Indonesia is in dire need of transitional figure who would stand up to
> what they believe.
> 
> When times of up come along, only clear state of equity business
> practices can guarantee IHSG to grow along its international benchmark
> market.
> 
> For dear investors, stick back to growth stocks, clean clean growth
> stocks. Never be mystified by the reborn of cyclical stock.
> 
> For traders, hit & run will still be ON.
> 
> 
> 
> Ratusima,
> 
> The United Kingdom of Kalingga, Java
>