Re: how to access aoo issue website?
I also have problem to connect to bugzilla, some problem hint to my college too. The IP return from my DNS is: nslookup issues.apache.org Server: 9.0.148.50 Address:9.0.148.50#53 Non-authoritative answer: Name: issues.apache.org Address: 140.211.11.121 Thanks Best Regards, Yan Ji On May 3, 2012, at 10:50 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: It works for me. $ nslookup issues.apache.org Server: 192.168.1.1 Address: 192.168.1.1#53 Non-authoritative answer: Name: issues.apache.org Address: 140.211.11.121 What IP does your DNS resolve to from your location? Regards, Dave On May 2, 2012, at 7:26 PM, Zhe Liu wrote: It seems the apache bugzilla server is down. I tried other projects and also can't connect. 2012/5/3 shzh zhao aoo.zhaos...@gmail.com: hi, I found the aoo issue website does not work currently. was it moved to a new place? https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=54281 -- * mailto: *aoo.zhaos...@gmail.com https://google.com/profiles https://google.com/profiles -- Best Regards From aliu...@gmail.com
Re: how to access aoo issue website?
Using proxy, it works. Network issue. 2012/5/3 Yan Ji yanji...@gmail.com: I also have problem to connect to bugzilla, some problem hint to my college too. The IP return from my DNS is: nslookup issues.apache.org Server: 9.0.148.50 Address: 9.0.148.50#53 Non-authoritative answer: Name: issues.apache.org Address: 140.211.11.121 Thanks Best Regards, Yan Ji On May 3, 2012, at 10:50 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: It works for me. $ nslookup issues.apache.org Server: 192.168.1.1 Address: 192.168.1.1#53 Non-authoritative answer: Name: issues.apache.org Address: 140.211.11.121 What IP does your DNS resolve to from your location? Regards, Dave On May 2, 2012, at 7:26 PM, Zhe Liu wrote: It seems the apache bugzilla server is down. I tried other projects and also can't connect. 2012/5/3 shzh zhao aoo.zhaos...@gmail.com: hi, I found the aoo issue website does not work currently. was it moved to a new place? https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=54281 -- * mailto: *aoo.zhaos...@gmail.com https://google.com/profiles https://google.com/profiles -- Best Regards From aliu...@gmail.com -- Best Regards From aliu...@gmail.com
Re: A wiki about how to support a VBA API
When users load MS document in OpenOffice with VBA, sometimes the macro doesn't work, because we lack the support of VBA APIs in OO. In this wiki, what's I want to express is that you can add the unsupported API by yourself in OO's code if you meet such situation or you have interesting to implement unsupported VBA APIs in OO. 2012/5/3 ZuoJun Chen zjchen...@gmail.com Hi, Andrew, I think the article is about VBA Macros interoperability http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/VBA . It explains the details if you want to hack OO for more excel macros support. Currently there are still many VBA apis not supported in OO, although the support framework has been implemented. 2012/5/3 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org On 05/02/2012 04:29 AM, Peng Chen wrote: Hi All, I post a wiki about how to support a VBA API in OpenOffice, http://wiki.services.** openoffice.org/wiki/How_to_**support_a_VBA_API_in_ **OpenOffice http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/How_to_support_a_VBA_API_in_OpenOffice Any feedback will be appreciated, thanks. I am almost embarrassed to say this, but after having read it, I have no idea what the article is about. I think that the problem is that I lack the proper vocabulary. For example, when I see VBA, I think Visual Basic Applications, which is something that MSO (Microsoft Office) supports, and not OOo (OpenOffice.org). Is this an article related to the VBA compatibility mode stuff that can be enabled using a specific Option from inside of StarBasic? After I have a handle on exactly what is accomplished, then I will read this again, since it looks like you are probably answering some very specific questions that I have in areas that I do not fully understand, but have searched for in the past. Sorry for my lack of immediate understanding. -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/**AndrewMacro.odt http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
On 02.05.2012 19:27, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 5/2/12 6:04 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: On 2 May 2012 16:51, Pedro Giffunip...@apache.org wrote: ... I have no idea if it's common for Podlings to have a successful vote in their first attempt but I have to say this result highlights the determination and impecable work done by the group. +1 (it is not common) and it was a little bit surprising ;-) But i think we have listened and have incorporate feedback early and careful. And we will continue to improve our work here as a healthy project and a vibrant community. My special role as a release manger was only a tiny piece (and nothing special) of the overall work we as a *community* have achieved with this first release. I could list many names and I am sure I would forget some. So I would like to say thank you to all who helped in the last month to bring our first release on the road. I will list only some key areas where we have achieved a lot: - migration of the website, the wiki, the user forum, the extensions and template repository, bugzilla - setting up new internal wiki at Apache, new pootle server, new project web page - IP cleanup of the code - setting up build bots - preparing regular dev snapshots and final RC - great QA work - archiving older releases and not yet integrated cws - establishing a powerful mirror network with new partners - work on documentation to reflect the new name and latest changes - ... The release is only the successful crowning end of a huge huge effort and a lot of work to migrate everything from Oracle infra-structure to Apache and partners. We all know that it was not only the source code that was migrated/moved but much more and especially the way how we improved over time our collaboration on different tasks makes me very proud and I am really looking forward to continue this work with all of you. We have strong characters in the project with different communication styles but I think we should always look twice what individuals are really doing here in the project and for the project before we adjudicate on somebody. And about statements like the major part of the community have moved to... can I only laugh out loud. I felt myself always as part of the OOo community and I never have moved to somewhere else ;-) (sorry I couldn't resist) Thanks to all of you I can not say that any better, so many thanks to everybody involved for coding, testing, translating, documenting or giving general advice. Especially I would like to thank Jürgen for his hard work to coordinate all and everything. I would like to share a picture of him in his role as master of the poodle server (~123kb): http://http://people.apache.org/~af/poodle1024.jpg Best regards, Andre
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Here is the correct link http://people.apache.org/~af/poodle1024.jpg
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Hi, On 03.05.2012 10:24, Andre Fischer wrote: On 02.05.2012 19:27, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 5/2/12 6:04 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: On 2 May 2012 16:51, Pedro Giffunip...@apache.org wrote: ... I have no idea if it's common for Podlings to have a successful vote in their first attempt but I have to say this result highlights the determination and impecable work done by the group. +1 (it is not common) and it was a little bit surprising ;-) But i think we have listened and have incorporate feedback early and careful. And we will continue to improve our work here as a healthy project and a vibrant community. My special role as a release manger was only a tiny piece (and nothing special) of the overall work we as a *community* have achieved with this first release. I could list many names and I am sure I would forget some. So I would like to say thank you to all who helped in the last month to bring our first release on the road. I will list only some key areas where we have achieved a lot: - migration of the website, the wiki, the user forum, the extensions and template repository, bugzilla - setting up new internal wiki at Apache, new pootle server, new project web page - IP cleanup of the code - setting up build bots - preparing regular dev snapshots and final RC - great QA work - archiving older releases and not yet integrated cws - establishing a powerful mirror network with new partners - work on documentation to reflect the new name and latest changes - ... The release is only the successful crowning end of a huge huge effort and a lot of work to migrate everything from Oracle infra-structure to Apache and partners. We all know that it was not only the source code that was migrated/moved but much more and especially the way how we improved over time our collaboration on different tasks makes me very proud and I am really looking forward to continue this work with all of you. We have strong characters in the project with different communication styles but I think we should always look twice what individuals are really doing here in the project and for the project before we adjudicate on somebody. And about statements like the major part of the community have moved to... can I only laugh out loud. I felt myself always as part of the OOo community and I never have moved to somewhere else ;-) (sorry I couldn't resist) Thanks to all of you I can not say that any better, so many thanks to everybody involved for coding, testing, translating, documenting or giving general advice. Especially I would like to thank Jürgen for his hard work to coordinate all and everything. I would like to share a picture of him in his role as master of the poodle server (~123kb): http://http://people.apache.org/~af/poodle1024.jpg It was an honour to see how this picture was taken. It is an honour to be part of this great open-source community. Best regards, Oliver.
Re: Would there be any interest in starting a AOO Group on Launchpad
I took the liberty to add myself. I am interested in making AOO available on Ubuntu but have no experience with PPA (yet). -Andre On 02.05.2012 20:41, Wolf Halton wrote: I was about to commit the AOO code to a PPA for myself, but as Drew mentioned, it might be a lot more fun if we started a little team to set up a repo for Ubuntu for the new RC. Would you like to play? I am good at thrashing things out (even reading the fine manual at times) but I have never set up a PPA before. I have come as far as making a test PPA but I haven't added any files. Apparently Launchpad makes its own debs, so that is not necessary. -Wolf PS earlier messages below... On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 2:15 PM, drewd...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Wed, 2012-05-02 at 12:55 -0400, Wolf Halton wrote: On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:47 PM, drew jensendrewjensen.in...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2012-05-02 at 12:40 -0400, Wolf Halton wrote: I am attempting to install from a sourceforge download and I would like to have one of 2 things. 1. a repo to set in my sources.list for Ubuntu 12.04 There is none - but you are welcome to create a PPA for same if you would like. OK, I will. :-) I will post the link up here. Thnx Hi Wolf That would be excellent, IMO. That said just a reminder, I think this is a great idea, that doesn't mean everyone else does. BTW are you familiar with the steps required to open a PPA? Also, a PPA can be opened by an individual or a team, perhaps it would best to see if there is anyone else here that would be interested in working with you on this, IMO, having more then one person, from the main project, working on this would be a pretty good idea. Anyway - let us know how we can help you with this. //drew ps: My launchpad id is atjensen, in case you want to say hello there.
Re: CWS licensing query ...
A small number of people have approached me offlist, as a mentor, with concerns that the PPMC might be missing important CWSs. As a mentor I want to make it clear I have *no* opinion on the technical aspect of this project and the communications have not included any specific requests. Personally I feel the message in my text below has already been communicated. However, since I have offlist communications I will speak onlist in reply and thus make this opinion explicit. If anyone on this list believes a *specific* CWS is valuable as the project as it moves forwards then here is what to do... Go to our repository and look to see if it is already there (Dave gave an example in this thread). Remember, as Rob and Pedro point out absence from the 3.4 release does not mean absence from our repositories so please check this first. If it is not there please check our mail archives, as Rob suggests, to see if the CWS was not included for good reason (if it was not explicitly discussed it may have been missed). If you still believe it is being missed (or you have new input to the discussion) post in a *new* thread saying I believe XYZ is important, how do I go about ensuring the code lands here. In that thread build consensus that the code is needed and seek guidance on how to get it. Then do the work and bring the code over. This is how an ASF project works. There are some things you won't be able to do but you will find that doing the parts you are able to do will help ensure someone is willing to step forward to do the rest of the work. If you don't have the time to do the work feel free to raise an issue on the issue tracker. Hopefully someone with more time and similar views will be available to do the work. But we promise nothing, we are all volunteers here. The only way to guarantee results is to do it yourself. This is how an ASF project works, everyone is welcome.to contribute. Valuable contributions include making *specific* requests via the issue tracker, even more valuable is doing the work to close the issue. To close. let me repeat that as a mentor (which is why I've been contacted offlist) I believe the original question has been answered here and guidance has already been provided on how to identify and fill any *specific* holes an individual might see. I'm looking forward to seeing some new contributors emerge. Ross -- Ross Gardler (@rgardler) Programme Leader (Open Development) OpenDirective http://opendirective.com On 1 May 2012 21:22, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: On 05/01/12 12:07, Michael Meeks wrote: ... or something - though, clearly there are prolly some interesting new files there too - which would fall foul of the list in the SGA I guess. Anyhow - most interested in the status of those. Of course we don't release CWSs at all, those would have to find their way into working code first. On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 23:13 +0200, Rob Weir wrote: Were there any other specific CWS's that you are interested in, aside from aw080? I havn't done a complete audit yet; but when I last reviewed the list, there were rather a large number of useful bits of code there - everything from bug-fixes, to new features, to porting to gnumake. I understand you have been cautious, http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2011-October/019057.html and that's really good. I can see we will not be adopting them all. I think, for example, part of the accessibility stuff may be obsoleted by IBM's code, so if you really want to relicense all your code it may be easier to revert that and sync at a later time with AOO (good thing you are using git). I assume you have a plan for rescuing that, it'd be great to understand it in more detail. We have no plan. For 3.4, it's too late but please do provide a list of the CWSs you are using in LibreOffice with a short description and we will eventually see what we can provide in future AOO releases. Of course, if you sign an iCLA you can help things go faster :). Pedro. -- Ross Gardler (@rgardler) Programme Leader (Open Development) OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
Re: Is there a AOO repo for ubuntu?
On 03.05.2012 06:11, Juergen Schmidt wrote: On Thursday, 3. May 2012 at 00:01, eric b wrote: Hi, Le 2 mai 12 à 22:53, Wolf Halton a écrit : I had just that issue. LO uses /usr/bin/soffice as well. Not very kind :-/ well we used it since many years and people will expect that OpenOffice will start. Let us wait what happens when users complain. We can of course create a further link aoo, aooffice, apacheoo or apacheopenoffice. But I would like to keep soffice as well because it is used in many places. I share the sentiment. But soffice, probably a shortcut for star office, felt already strange to start OpenOffice (no s in the name). Maybe it is time for a change? -Andre
Re: What do we need to do in BZ after AOO 3.4 is released?
Suggest we add AOO 340 version as official release. And for those existing opening defects, basically they should be moved to this version as well. But considering we are not sure if many old defects still valid for AOO 3.4, it's better add one version as OOO and change all the defects before AOO 3.4 to this version. To be honest, I am not sure how we handle these large volume of old defects. From QA view, I'd like monitor those high severity defects and verify them against AOO 340+ to check if they exist as well. Once AOO 340 is announced, all users can submit their feedback against AOO 340. Also branch version should be provide to track against which version volunteer should report issue. For component, I totally agree Regina's suggestion. Also one target version filed is need to track the fixed stream for given bug. Best regards, Lily 2012/5/1 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org Today, among the 100 version strings the users need to scroll through in BZ, we have AOO340-dev. What do we want after we release AOO 3.4? Add AOO340? (Or just rename AOO340-dev to AOO340?) Add AOO341-dev? Add AOO450-dev? Also, are there any products that can be removed or demoted to components under another product? What we have now is simpler than what we had with OOo, but it is still very complicated with a lot of dead wood at the top level. -Rob
Re: After AOO 3.4?
Yes, I plan: - QA website update - QA process update - QA automation framework build up and related guide publish - QA case management tool - QA sample file db I will propose all these tasks against qa mail list and call for volunteers. Best regards, Lily 2012/5/2 Zhe Liu aliu...@gmail.com In addition, QA site is too old and need updated. 2012/5/2 Yan Ji yanji...@gmail.com: From QA perspective, I think we need to build up the QA project and process asap. Automation framework and test tool should be available soon for all tester in this project. Thanks Best Regards, Yan Ji On Apr 29, 2012, at 12:32 AM, Rob Weir wrote: I'm already starting to get questions on what we'll be doing after AOO 3.4 is released. Based on previous conversations on this list, I'm able to speak confidently about a few things: 1) We'll probably graduate to a Top Level Project 2) IBM says they will contribute Symphony source code after 3.4 is released 3) We have some initial feature ideas for AOO 4.0 on the wiki: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Feature+Planning 4) We also have some ideas listed for an AOO 4.1: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Feature+Planning Beyond that, do we have anything to say? I've heard some discussions that we might want an AOO 3.4.1, which would: A) Add some additional translations B) Fix any important bugs that are found in AOO 3.4 C) Uncertain if it would have new features? What time frame would this be? It seems like it takes around 4-6 weeks to iterate on dev builds, do regression testing, cut a Release Candidate, have a two-stage release vote and get the new build distributed. So it seems it would need to be at least that far out, plus whatever time it takes to do the translations and bug fixing. Does anyone want to start a wiki page for AOO 3.4.1 and start collecting proposed translations and bugs for that release? -Rob -- Best Regards From aliu...@gmail.com
Re: [PROPOSAL] Official Facebook Fan Page for AOO
Hi. 2012/5/3 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org I think we should have an official Facebook fan page in time for the release of Apache OpenOffice 3.4. I think this is critical, since the average end user does not subscribe to mailing lists, or even use Google+ or Twitter. But almost every user, current and potential, does use Facebook. So it is our best opportunity for engaging with users. Here is the proposed page: http://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO Like the page! :) I need your help in managing and running this page. I'm offering to hand total control of this page over to the PPMC. If anyone (from the PPMC) wants to be co-admin on this account, please send me an email address associated with your Facebook account. You can send this to me via private email if you prefer. So, is anyone willing to help? Also, if you are not a PPMC member, but would still like to help, this is very welcome as well, from all volunteers: 1) Like the page 2) Share the page with your friends 3) If you find interesting stories or tips related to OpenOffice, post them on our Wall 4) If you have interesting photos or stories of the history of OpenOffice, add them to our Timeline 5) Visit the page regularly and add comments to posts, and generally help with any user questions. Thanks. With this page, we'll have a good set of social media accounts ready for the AOO 3.4 launch, including Google+, Twitter, Identi.ca and Xing, a Facebook group (which is different than a FB fan page), as well as a Brazilian Twitter and Indenti.ca account. Identi.ca and twitter brazilian @apacheoobr I'll also create page in facebook brazil: facebook.com/pages/ApacheOOBr The have in same thinking you Rob about the page(s). Note that with Facebook every page admin is equal and even has the ability to remove other admins, including removing me. So I have absolutely no exclusive special privileges. I'm reserving nothing. I'm giving the page over entirely to the PPMC. Finally, please know that I've made every effort to get the existing OpenOffice.org FB page made available for our use. I've asked repeatedly [1][2] for this, as well as provided detailed technical steps [3] needed to make this transition. I think it was worth the effort to try to make that work, but sadly, this has failed to occur. However, we still have enough time (barely) to have a new page ready for the AOO 3.4 launch, and to promote this page and turn it into another way in which we can engage with our users in the future.So I hope I have your support. [1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119297 [2] http://markmail.org/message/27wxv4h2mwpahyel [3] http://markmail.org/message/p5z5o2g74qe6rl6j Regards, -Rob Best, Albino
Re: I posted a wiki about copy/paste in calc in OpenOffice,
Le 3 mai 12 à 04:23, shzh zhao a écrit : Hi All, Hi, I posted a wiki about copy/paste in calc in OpenOffice, http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Calc/Implementation/ Calc_copy_pastehttp://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/ How_to_support_a_VBA_API_in_OpenOffice Thank you very much : every documentation needs always a lot of time to be written, and a lot of energy to maintain it. = bookmarked and marked as precious :-) Any feedback will be appreciated, thanks. About the code documentation : nothing, thanks again ! About the code itself .. looks like there is something strange. Indeed, when we read the description, we see a forest of if / else if .. in the algo. If I understand correctly, every time a case is tested, we do aDataHelper.HasFormat( aFormat) and if the current case is the 10th in the if list, we'll have to execute 10 times the same method ? Wouldn't a switch( aFormat) be more efficient and probably faster there ? Other point : PasteDataFormat (sc/source/ui/view/ viewfun5.cxx) is around 500 lines (!!), and this is probably a lot for a simple method (I probably read too fast ...) FYI when I documented the math equation editor (see http:// wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/ImproveMathEquationEditor/ SourcesDescription ), there was another pattern used. Say more graphical, and using operators (see starmath/inc/rect.hxx). Could this pattern be used there instead ? (if adapted) More precisely, I see some similarities between all the possible cases of formats ( if DataHelper.HasFormat() ), how they are treated, and the possible nodes when creating a graphical equation. Do you think we could use such a method in Calc (operators), and optimize, or am I completely wrong ? (could be ;-) ) Thanks, Eric -- qɔᴉɹə Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org Blog : http://eric.bachard.org/news
Re: how to access aoo issue website?
Hi, Well, I can't login since a long while, and nobody solved my problem. I wanted to provide some patches, comment issues, and start working at some task, but that's not possible :-/ Regards, Eric Le 3 mai 12 à 04:50, Dave Fisher a écrit : It works for me. $ nslookup issues.apache.org Server: 192.168.1.1 Address:192.168.1.1#53 Non-authoritative answer: Name: issues.apache.org Address: 140.211.11.121 What IP does your DNS resolve to from your location? Regards, Dave -- qɔᴉɹə Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org Blog : http://eric.bachard.org/news
Re: Is there a AOO repo for ubuntu?
Juergen Schmidt wrote: We can of course create a further link aoo, aooffice, apacheoo or apacheopenoffice. But I would like to keep soffice as well because it is used in many places. It would definitely make sense to continue using soffice. And, unless it gets political (and I hope it won't), Ubuntu could modify its packaging. If another name is needed in addition to soffice, then the best option would probably be ooffice, which is already in use with, e.g., the Red Hat packaging of 3.3. No need to add a or apache as a prefix: Apache Subversion uses svn, not asvn; and the same for Tomcat and other Apache software. Regards, Andrea.
Re: how to access aoo issue website?
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:36 PM, eric b eric.bachardnos...@free.fr wrote: Hi, Well, I can't login since a long while, and nobody solved my problem. Hi Eric, Sorry, I may have missed your issue originally. What is your problem? Are you not able to login to Bugzilla? Did you try resetting your password? -Rob I wanted to provide some patches, comment issues, and start working at some task, but that's not possible :-/ Regards, Eric Le 3 mai 12 à 04:50, Dave Fisher a écrit : It works for me. $ nslookup issues.apache.org Server: 192.168.1.1 Address: 192.168.1.1#53 Non-authoritative answer: Name: issues.apache.org Address: 140.211.11.121 What IP does your DNS resolve to from your location? Regards, Dave -- qɔᴉɹə Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org Blog : http://eric.bachard.org/news
Re: A wiki about how to support a VBA API
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:17 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On May 2, 2012, at 9:45 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: On 05/02/2012 04:29 AM, Peng Chen wrote: Hi All, I post a wiki about how to support a VBA API in OpenOffice, http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/How_to_support_a_VBA_API_in_OpenOffice Any feedback will be appreciated, thanks. I am almost embarrassed to say this, but after having read it, I have no idea what the article is about. I think that the problem is that I lack the proper vocabulary. For example, when I see VBA, I think Visual Basic Applications, which is something that MSO (Microsoft Office) supports, and not OOo (OpenOffice.org). Is this an article related to the VBA compatibility mode stuff that can be enabled using a specific Option from inside of StarBasic? After I have a handle on exactly what is accomplished, then I will read this again, since it looks like you are probably answering some very specific questions that I have in areas that I do not fully understand, but have searched for in the past. Sorry for my lack of immediate understanding. I'm not sure what I am reading either. My reference is using Apache POI and its User Defined Function (UDF) capability to rewrite a VBA function in Java. This allows me to have a different implementation of a VBA function that is not in a Basic derivative. Whether that works or not depends on whether I can accurately code the VBA in Java. This is not easy. I think that this API may be more about UDF support than VBA support. To me VBA support means that I can run my MS Office VBAs in the program without any trouble. We have VBA support in Symphony. It looks like the Symphony developers are starting to add some technical documentation about the features they added to Symphony, beyond what is in OOo. -Rob Still, UDF support is useful. VBA support is a panacea. What's it all about Peng? Regards, Dave -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php
Re: how to access aoo issue website?
Rob Weir wrote: Are you not able to login to Bugzilla? Did you try resetting your password? Note that the BugZilla home page now has wrong instructions: -- Please Note: All users with accounts on the legacy OpenOffice.org tracker must reset their passwords to gain access to their old accounts. To reset your password, click on the Forgot Password link in the header or footer. [so far, instruction still apply] Note: If your user name when the service was hosted at Oracle was myuser, then your login for the migrated Bugzilla instance will be myu...@openoffice.org and e-mail to this address will redirect to the e-mail address associated with your Oracle/OpenOffice.org account pre-migration to the ASF. [this part is outdated: users should just write their full e-mail address - the real one, not the @openoffice.org alias; at least other users reported that this worked for them; I can't test since I migrated my account months ago] -- Regards, Andrea.
Re: how to access aoo issue website?
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: Are you not able to login to Bugzilla? Did you try resetting your password? Note that the BugZilla home page now has wrong instructions: -- Please Note: All users with accounts on the legacy OpenOffice.org tracker must reset their passwords to gain access to their old accounts. To reset your password, click on the Forgot Password link in the header or footer. [so far, instruction still apply] Note: If your user name when the service was hosted at Oracle was myuser, then your login for the migrated Bugzilla instance will be myu...@openoffice.org and e-mail to this address will redirect to the e-mail address associated with your Oracle/OpenOffice.org account pre-migration to the ASF. [this part is outdated: users should just write their full e-mail address - the real one, not the @openoffice.org alias; at least other users reported that this worked for them; I can't test since I migrated my account months ago] -- Certainly it will fail if the password reset is sent to the openoffice.org email address. Those will just bounce. But it is not clear to me how BZ would know about the user's aliased email address. -Rob Regards, Andrea.
Google Docs Boasts 450 New Fonts and 60 New Templates
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57426699-93/google-docs-boasts-450-new-fonts-and-60-new-templates/ Is there any easy way to tell how many templates we have in our template repository? It might make sense to mention the templates and extensions repositories in our AOO 3.4 announcement, since that is a statement on the scope of the larger ecosystem. Someone who contributes a template or writes an extension is a contributor to the overall OpenOffice effort. -Rob
Propose testlink
Hi all, As I recommend before, Testlink is an open source tool which used for test management, such as test project management, test specification management, test plan management, etc… If we adopt this tool in Aoo project, I'm sure we will gain lots of benefit. I built a virtual machine which host a TestLink demo. Is there any place I can put it to so everybody can practice. The file(.vdi) size is about 6.17 GB. Who can help? Thanks Best Regards, Yan Ji
Re: A wiki about how to support a VBA API
Excellent... I thought that might be the case, but I wanted to be sure before I wracked my brain more. On more than one occasion, I had looked to see how this was done (and failed to figure it out). I will take another look. Thanks! On 05/03/2012 01:45 AM, ZuoJun Chen wrote: Hi, Andrew, I think the article is about VBA Macros interoperability http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/VBA . It explains the details if you want to hack OO for more excel macros support. Currently there are still many VBA apis not supported in OO, although the support framework has been implemented. 2012/5/3 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org mailto:and...@pitonyak.org On 05/02/2012 04:29 AM, Peng Chen wrote: Hi All, I post a wiki about how to support a VBA API in OpenOffice, http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/How_to_support_a_VBA_API_in_OpenOffice Any feedback will be appreciated, thanks. I am almost embarrassed to say this, but after having read it, I have no idea what the article is about. I think that the problem is that I lack the proper vocabulary. For example, when I see VBA, I think Visual Basic Applications, which is something that MSO (Microsoft Office) supports, and not OOo (OpenOffice.org). Is this an article related to the VBA compatibility mode stuff that can be enabled using a specific Option from inside of StarBasic? After I have a handle on exactly what is accomplished, then I will read this again, since it looks like you are probably answering some very specific questions that I have in areas that I do not fully understand, but have searched for in the past. Sorry for my lack of immediate understanding. -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php
Re: [PROPOSAL] Official Facebook Fan Page for AOO
Thanks. First thing is to remove the proposed from the about, now that you have other PPMC'ers helping. Please add me as an admin; I'd like to see how (P)PMCs can best manage this kind of resource in other situations, and once my current overload of work tails off hope to have more time to contribute. I'm pretty sure I'm the only Shane Curcuru out there. - Shane On 2012-05-02 11:01 PM, Rob Weir wrote: I think we should have an official Facebook fan page in time for the release of Apache OpenOffice 3.4. I think this is critical, since the average end user does not subscribe to mailing lists, or even use Google+ or Twitter. But almost every user, current and potential, does use Facebook. So it is our best opportunity for engaging with users. Here is the proposed page: http://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO I need your help in managing and running this page. I'm offering to hand total control of this page over to the PPMC. If anyone (from the PPMC) wants to be co-admin on this account, please send me an email address associated with your Facebook account. You can send this to me via private email if you prefer. So, is anyone willing to help? Also, if you are not a PPMC member, but would still like to help, this is very welcome as well, from all volunteers: 1) Like the page 2) Share the page with your friends 3) If you find interesting stories or tips related to OpenOffice, post them on our Wall 4) If you have interesting photos or stories of the history of OpenOffice, add them to our Timeline 5) Visit the page regularly and add comments to posts, and generally help with any user questions. With this page, we'll have a good set of social media accounts ready for the AOO 3.4 launch, including Google+, Twitter, Identi.ca and Xing, a Facebook group (which is different than a FB fan page), as well as a Brazilian Twitter and Indenti.ca account. Note that with Facebook every page admin is equal and even has the ability to remove other admins, including removing me. So I have absolutely no exclusive special privileges. I'm reserving nothing. I'm giving the page over entirely to the PPMC. Finally, please know that I've made every effort to get the existing OpenOffice.org FB page made available for our use. I've asked repeatedly [1][2] for this, as well as provided detailed technical steps [3] needed to make this transition. I think it was worth the effort to try to make that work, but sadly, this has failed to occur. However, we still have enough time (barely) to have a new page ready for the AOO 3.4 launch, and to promote this page and turn it into another way in which we can engage with our users in the future.So I hope I have your support. [1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119297 [2] http://markmail.org/message/27wxv4h2mwpahyel [3] http://markmail.org/message/p5z5o2g74qe6rl6j Regards, -Rob
Re: Google Docs Boasts 450 New Fonts and 60 New Templates
On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 08:10 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57426699-93/google-docs-boasts-450-new-fonts-and-60-new-templates/ Is there any easy way to tell how many templates we have in our template repository? 1,105 It might make sense to mention the templates and extensions repositories in our AOO 3.4 announcement, since that is a statement on the scope of the larger ecosystem. Someone who contributes a template or writes an extension is a contributor to the overall OpenOffice effort. -Rob
[Rendering] Trying to render text page to a bitmap
Hi, I'm trying to render a page to a bitmap and I don't get it working. Drawing primitives works but not render a document. Do anyone know how to do this? Here is my code: public static BufferedImage makeThumb(File inFile) throws IOException, BootstrapException, IllegalArgumentException, Exception, java.io.IOException { XComponentLoader xCompLoader = OfficeConnection.getConnection().getXComponentLoader(); PropertyValue[] loadProps = new PropertyValue[2]; loadProps[0] = OfficeTools.makeProperty(ReadOnly, Boolean.TRUE); loadProps[1] = OfficeTools.makeProperty(Hidden, Boolean.TRUE); XComponent xDoc = xCompLoader.loadComponentFromURL(OfficeTools.makeOpenOfficeUrl(inFile.getAbsolutePath()), _blank, 0, loadProps); XRenderable xRender = (XRenderable)UnoRuntime.queryInterface(XRenderable.class, xDoc); if (xRender != null) { System.out.println(Is Renderable); XDevice xDevice = OfficeConnection.getConnection().getXToolkit().createScreenCompatibleDevice(1024, 1024); PropertyValue[] renderProps = new PropertyValue[2]; renderProps[0] = OfficeTools.makeProperty(RenderDevive, xDevice); renderProps[1] = OfficeTools.makeProperty(PageRange, 1); xRender.render(0, xDoc, renderProps); XBitmap xBitmap = xDevice.createBitmap(0, 0, 1024, 1024); if (xBitmap != null) return ImageIO.read(new ByteArrayInputStream(xBitmap.getDIB())); else System.out.println(No bitmap created!); } else { System.out.println(Not Renderable); } return null; } Thanks in advance, Erik Wigforss
[Solved] Re: how to access aoo issue website?
Hi, Le 3 mai 12 à 13:56, Andrea Pescetti a écrit : Rob Weir wrote: Are you not able to login to Bugzilla? Did you try resetting your password? Note that the BugZilla home page now has wrong instructions: Ahhh that's why I was not able to reset the password !! Thanks a lot, it was that ! Solved !! Thanks a lot Andrea :-) Fantastic, I'll be able to continue to work on the Writer feature with BZ Regards, Eric -- qɔᴉɹə Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org Blog : http://eric.bachard.org/news
[solved] Re: how to access aoo issue website?
Hi Rob, Le 3 mai 12 à 13:44, Rob Weir a écrit : On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:36 PM, eric b eric.bachardnos...@free.fr wrote: Hi, Well, I can't login since a long while, and nobody solved my problem. Hi Eric, Sorry, I may have missed your issue originally. No problem, we all receive a lot of mails on this list. What is your problem? I was simply using the wrong email (thanks to Andrea !!) Are you not able to login to Bugzilla? Exactly Did you try resetting your password? Was not working, for the reason above. This is solved now (uff !) Regards, Eric -- qɔᴉɹə Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org Blog : http://eric.bachard.org/news
Apache Barcamp in Washington DC
Hi, Referencing this coming event http://events.apache.org/event/2012/barcamp-dc/venue.html Anyone here planning on attending? I am thinking of doing so and thought I'd ask about any others also. Thanks, //drew
Re: how to access aoo issue website?
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: Are you not able to login to Bugzilla? Did you try resetting your password? Note that the BugZilla home page now has wrong instructions: -- Please Note: All users with accounts on the legacy OpenOffice.org tracker must reset their passwords to gain access to their old accounts. To reset your password, click on the Forgot Password link in the header or footer. [so far, instruction still apply] Note: If your user name when the service was hosted at Oracle was myuser, then your login for the migrated Bugzilla instance will be myu...@openoffice.org and e-mail to this address will redirect to the e-mail address associated with your Oracle/OpenOffice.org account pre-migration to the ASF. [this part is outdated: users should just write their full e-mail address - the real one, not the @openoffice.org alias; at least other users reported that this worked for them; I can't test since I migrated my account months ago] OK. I updated the text: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ Is that correct? Is there a clearer way to state this? -Rob -- Regards, Andrea.
Re: [Rendering] Trying to render text page to a bitmap
Erik , With BASIC it can been done have a look at this thread http://openoffice.2283327.n4.nabble.com/api-dev-Open-a-file-with-standard-application-from-dialog-td3067760.html hope it helps Fernand Hi, I'm trying to render a page to a bitmap and I don't get it working. Drawing primitives works but not render a document. Do anyone know how to do this? Here is my code: public static BufferedImage makeThumb(File inFile) throws IOException, BootstrapException, IllegalArgumentException, Exception, java.io.IOException { XComponentLoader xCompLoader = OfficeConnection.getConnection().getXComponentLoader(); PropertyValue[] loadProps = new PropertyValue[2]; loadProps[0] = OfficeTools.makeProperty(ReadOnly, Boolean.TRUE); loadProps[1] = OfficeTools.makeProperty(Hidden, Boolean.TRUE); XComponent xDoc = xCompLoader.loadComponentFromURL(OfficeTools.makeOpenOfficeUrl(inFile.getAbsolutePath()), _blank, 0, loadProps); XRenderable xRender = (XRenderable)UnoRuntime.queryInterface(XRenderable.class, xDoc); if (xRender != null) { System.out.println(Is Renderable); XDevice xDevice = OfficeConnection.getConnection().getXToolkit().createScreenCompatibleDevice(1024, 1024); PropertyValue[] renderProps = new PropertyValue[2]; renderProps[0] = OfficeTools.makeProperty(RenderDevive, xDevice); renderProps[1] = OfficeTools.makeProperty(PageRange, 1); xRender.render(0, xDoc, renderProps); XBitmap xBitmap = xDevice.createBitmap(0, 0, 1024, 1024); if (xBitmap != null) return ImageIO.read(new ByteArrayInputStream(xBitmap.getDIB())); else System.out.println(No bitmap created!); } else { System.out.println(Not Renderable); } return null; } Thanks in advance, Erik Wigforss
Re: Apache branded presentation template?
We do not have an official Apache or project-related presentation template currently. Folks looking for potential content to use or mimic may be available on the ComDev project's Speaker Resource page: http://community.apache.org/speakers/index.html If folks do develop a PPMC suggested template, we could definitely put it up there as well. - Shane On 2012-05-03 11:05 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, do we already have an Apache branded presentation template that can we share? I think about a nice template (not overloaded) with Apache OpenOfifce and Apache branding elements that can be used to talk about AOO at any kind of events. Anybody interested in designing one? Juergen
Re: Apache branded presentation template?
On 3 May 2012 16:09, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote: We do not have an official Apache or project-related presentation template currently. Folks looking for potential content to use or mimic may be available on the ComDev project's Speaker Resource page: http://community.apache.org/speakers/index.html You probably already know about http://www.apache.org/foundation/press/kit/ it contains official images etc. Ross If folks do develop a PPMC suggested template, we could definitely put it up there as well. - Shane On 2012-05-03 11:05 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, do we already have an Apache branded presentation template that can we share? I think about a nice template (not overloaded) with Apache OpenOfifce and Apache branding elements that can be used to talk about AOO at any kind of events. Anybody interested in designing one? Juergen -- Ross Gardler (@rgardler) Programme Leader (Open Development) OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
Re: Apache branded presentation template?
Hi, On 2012-05-03, at 11:09 , Shane Curcuru wrote: We do not have an official Apache or project-related presentation template currently. Folks looking for potential content to use or mimic may be available on the ComDev project's Speaker Resource page: http://community.apache.org/speakers/index.html If folks do develop a PPMC suggested template, we could definitely put it up there as well. - Shane On 2012-05-03 11:05 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, do we already have an Apache branded presentation template that can we share? I think about a nice template (not overloaded) with Apache OpenOfifce and Apache branding elements that can be used to talk about AOO at any kind of events. Anybody interested in designing one? I'm lousy at design, but I do think we *need* this, as I, for one, do give plenty of presentations around the world and from time to time would find it beneficial to use a PPMC approved template. (Normally, I speak on community strategy, and represent my consultancy, Age of Peers, so it's not an urgent issue for me--but…) Louis Juergen
Re: Is there a AOO repo for ubuntu?
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Juergen Schmidt wrote: We can of course create a further link aoo, aooffice, apacheoo or apacheopenoffice. But I would like to keep soffice as well because it is used in many places. It would definitely make sense to continue using soffice. And, unless it gets political (and I hope it won't), Ubuntu could modify its packaging. If another name is needed in addition to soffice, then the best option would probably be ooffice, which is already in use with, e.g., the Red Hat packaging of 3.3. No need to add a or apache as a prefix: Apache Subversion uses svn, not asvn; and the same for Tomcat and other Apache software. Regards, Andrea. It is nice to know ooffice is already in production use. I was thinking that the install script (in the Ubuntu installs) could have a case structure that checks for existing /usr/bin soft links, for instance: if soffice exists # Means openOffice, LibreOffice or StarOffice may be installed follow the link to get the app and version echo to dialog You appear to have %Existing_App% installed, if you would like to keep %Existing_App% and install %Current_AOO_Product% beside it, click %Button_1% [default unattended install behaviour]. If you would like to replace %Existing_App% with %Current_AOO_Product% click %Button_2% and if you would like to abort the installation and make no changes to your computer, click %Button_3%. end_if if ooffice exists # - Means OpenOffice is installed follow the link to get the app and version echo to dialog that software You appear to have %Existing_App% installed, if you would like to keep %Existing_App% and install %Current_AOO_Product% beside it, click %Button_1%. If you would like to replace %Existing_App% with %Current_AOO_Product% click %Button_2% [default action for unattended install] and if you would like to abort the installation and make no changes to your computer, click %Button_3%. end_if This would work regardless of which Linux you are installing into.and offer an option that was never available before. It would also mean that the Distribution packagers would not have to change very much to add AOO back into their software repositories. We always play well with others. :-) Wolf -- This Apt Has Super Cow Powers - http://sourcefreedom.com Advancing Libraries Together - http://LYRASIS.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] Official Facebook Fan Page for AOO
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: I think we should have an official Facebook fan page in time for the release of Apache OpenOffice 3.4. I think this is critical, since the average end user does not subscribe to mailing lists, or even use Google+ or Twitter. But almost every user, current and potential, does use Facebook. So it is our best opportunity for engaging with users. Here is the proposed page: http://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO I need your help in managing and running this page. I'm offering to hand total control of this page over to the PPMC. If anyone (from the PPMC) wants to be co-admin on this account, please send me an email address associated with your Facebook account. You can send this to me via private email if you prefer. So, is anyone willing to help? Sure, sign me up. dpharbi...@facebook.com Also, if you are not a PPMC member, but would still like to help, this is very welcome as well, from all volunteers: 1) Like the page 2) Share the page with your friends 3) If you find interesting stories or tips related to OpenOffice, post them on our Wall 4) If you have interesting photos or stories of the history of OpenOffice, add them to our Timeline 5) Visit the page regularly and add comments to posts, and generally help with any user questions. With this page, we'll have a good set of social media accounts ready for the AOO 3.4 launch, including Google+, Twitter, Identi.ca and Xing, a Facebook group (which is different than a FB fan page), as well as a Brazilian Twitter and Indenti.ca account. Note that with Facebook every page admin is equal and even has the ability to remove other admins, including removing me. So I have absolutely no exclusive special privileges. I'm reserving nothing. I'm giving the page over entirely to the PPMC. Finally, please know that I've made every effort to get the existing OpenOffice.org FB page made available for our use. I've asked repeatedly [1][2] for this, as well as provided detailed technical steps [3] needed to make this transition. I think it was worth the effort to try to make that work, but sadly, this has failed to occur. However, we still have enough time (barely) to have a new page ready for the AOO 3.4 launch, and to promote this page and turn it into another way in which we can engage with our users in the future.So I hope I have your support. [1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119297 [2] http://markmail.org/message/27wxv4h2mwpahyel [3] http://markmail.org/message/p5z5o2g74qe6rl6j Regards, -Rob
Re: Apache branded presentation template?
Hi all, 2012/5/3 Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com Hi, On 2012-05-03, at 11:09 , Shane Curcuru wrote: We do not have an official Apache or project-related presentation template currently. Folks looking for potential content to use or mimic may be available on the ComDev project's Speaker Resource page: http://community.apache.org/speakers/index.html If folks do develop a PPMC suggested template, we could definitely put it up there as well. - Shane On 2012-05-03 11:05 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, do we already have an Apache branded presentation template that can we share? I think about a nice template (not overloaded) with Apache OpenOfifce and Apache branding elements that can be used to talk about AOO at any kind of events. Anybody interested in designing one? I'm lousy at design, but I do think we *need* this, as I, for one, do give plenty of presentations around the world and from time to time would find it beneficial to use a PPMC approved template. (Normally, I speak on community strategy, and represent my consultancy, Age of Peers, so it's not an urgent issue for me--but…) We also need a professional template to begin a documentation under Apache licence. Could a professional tech writer provide that, from IBM or another company? A+ -- gw
I want to stay informed about OpenOffice option for the home page?
One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from OpenOffice.org. Does anyone recall what that used to do? For example, did it sign users up for the annou...@openoffice.org mailing list? If so, since that is gone, we've lost the primary way for users to say that they want to get occasional updates from us. This reduces our opportunity to engage with our users. I wonder if it would be worth adding to the home page, a new option: I want to stay informed about OpenOffice? That could go to a page where we give information on the announce list, the project blog, etc. It would take the place of the old registration system. -Rob
Re: I want to stay informed about OpenOffice option for the home page?
On 05/03/2012 09:43 AM, Rob Weir wrote: One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from OpenOffice.org. Does anyone recall what that used to do? For example, did it sign users up for the annou...@openoffice.org mailing list? I don't recall the registration doing this... If so, since that is gone, we've lost the primary way for users to say that they want to get occasional updates from us. This reduces our opportunity to engage with our users. I wonder if it would be worth adding to the home page, a new option: I want to stay informed about OpenOffice? That could go to a page where we give information on the announce list, the project blog, etc. It would take the place of the old registration system. -Rob I think this is definitely worthwhile! Either as a permanent news item, or something similar -- a new tab, a new main menu option. -- MzK Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you And life has a funny way of helping you out Helping you out. -- Ironic, Alanis Morissette
Re: I want to stay informed about OpenOffice option for the home page?
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/03/2012 09:43 AM, Rob Weir wrote: One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from OpenOffice.org. Does anyone recall what that used to do? For example, did it sign users up for the annou...@openoffice.org mailing list? I don't recall the registration doing this... If so, since that is gone, we've lost the primary way for users to say that they want to get occasional updates from us. This reduces our opportunity to engage with our users. I wonder if it would be worth adding to the home page, a new option: I want to stay informed about OpenOffice? That could go to a page where we give information on the announce list, the project blog, etc. It would take the place of the old registration system. -Rob I think this is definitely worthwhile! Either as a permanent news item, or something similar -- a new tab, a new main menu option. -- MzK Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you And life has a funny way of helping you out Helping you out. -- Ironic, Alanis Morissette This is a good idea. Do you think the idea of a newsletter format on announce@ that went out monthly has any appeal? -Wolf -- This Apt Has Super Cow Powers - http://sourcefreedom.com Advancing Libraries Together - http://LYRASIS.org
Re: I want to stay informed about OpenOffice option for the home page?
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/03/2012 09:43 AM, Rob Weir wrote: One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from OpenOffice.org. Does anyone recall what that used to do? For example, did it sign users up for the annou...@openoffice.org mailing list? I don't recall the registration doing this... If so, since that is gone, we've lost the primary way for users to say that they want to get occasional updates from us. This reduces our opportunity to engage with our users. I wonder if it would be worth adding to the home page, a new option: I want to stay informed about OpenOffice? That could go to a page where we give information on the announce list, the project blog, etc. It would take the place of the old registration system. -Rob I think this is definitely worthwhile! Either as a permanent news item, or something similar -- a new tab, a new main menu option. If we had it as a new home page option we would need an icon, similar size and color palette as the others. But an icon of what? -Rob -- MzK Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you And life has a funny way of helping you out Helping you out. -- Ironic, Alanis Morissette
Re: I want to stay informed about OpenOffice option for the home page?
On 05/03/2012 11:29 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/03/2012 09:43 AM, Rob Weir wrote: One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from OpenOffice.org. Does anyone recall what that used to do? For example, did it sign users up for the annou...@openoffice.org mailing list? I don't recall the registration doing this... If so, since that is gone, we've lost the primary way for users to say that they want to get occasional updates from us. This reduces our opportunity to engage with our users. I wonder if it would be worth adding to the home page, a new option: I want to stay informed about OpenOffice? That could go to a page where we give information on the announce list, the project blog, etc. It would take the place of the old registration system. -Rob I think this is definitely worthwhile! Either as a permanent news item, or something similar -- a new tab, a new main menu option. If we had it as a new home page option we would need an icon, similar size and color palette as the others. But an icon of what? well...maybe one of more artistic members could weigh in on this one... I don't have any ideas... -Rob -- MzK Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you And life has a funny way of helping you out Helping you out. -- Ironic, Alanis Morissette -- MzK Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you And life has a funny way of helping you out Helping you out. -- Ironic, Alanis Morissette
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
On 05/03/2012 01:27 AM, Andre Fischer wrote: Here is the correct link http://people.apache.org/~af/poodle1024.jpg nice to see he gets out to have some fun every once in a while! :) -- MzK Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you And life has a funny way of helping you out Helping you out. -- Ironic, Alanis Morissette
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Am 03.05.2012 04:49, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: Congratulations to all and thanks to Juergen, too. But the words are not enough; what is, is use. +1 Unfortunately, we can not use AOO in our productive environment because of this silly bug: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118977 Many of our every day documents are input forms. Most of the forms are unusable in page layout.
Re: Is there a AOO repo for ubuntu?
Le Wed, 2 May 2012 19:30:22 -0300, Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com a écrit : 2012/5/2 Wolf Haltonwolf.hal...@gmail.com Well I have both LO and AOO running simultaneously on my system right now. Should be interesting. Good! How? You used command dpkg -i --force-all *.deb No need. If the Ubuntu package has been removed and you have donwloaded the tarball from the LibO site, then just use the same command line, no need of the --force-all option. The only remaining thing however seems to be the icons: I still get the LibO icons in Nautilus. But they are not bad so it's not a problem (for me). Hagar
Re: I want to stay informed about OpenOffice option for the home page?
On 03/05/2012 Rob Weir wrote: One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from OpenOffice.org. Does anyone recall what that used to do? If I recall correctly, in different periods it was used for a user survey (and this would be a meaningful suggestion for the future maybe), for registering accounts at Sun and for registering accounts at Oracle. You can get an idea of the survey at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Renaissance:Phase_1:OOoUser_Survey Regards, Andrea.
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Am 05/03/2012 09:57 PM, schrieb Andreas Säger: Am 03.05.2012 04:49, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: Congratulations to all and thanks to Juergen, too. But the words are not enough; what is, is use. +1 Unfortunately, we can not use AOO in our productive environment because of this silly bug: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118977 Many of our every day documents are input forms. Most of the forms are unusable in page layout. I've added it as candidate to this Wikipage: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4.1+Feature+Planning Marcus
Re: I want to stay informed about OpenOffice option for the home page?
2012/5/3 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org: On 03/05/2012 Rob Weir wrote: One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from OpenOffice.org. Does anyone recall what that used to do? If I recall correctly, in different periods it was used for a user survey (and this would be a meaningful suggestion for the future maybe), for registering accounts at Sun and for registering accounts at Oracle. You can get an idea of the survey at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Renaissance:Phase_1:OOoUser_Survey Regards, Andrea. It was also used to register the user with him/herself: The registration process helped the user to fill the fields under Tools → Options → OpenOffice.org → User data. Now, for most new users that info will remain empty. While not a problem by itself, this means for example that documents will always open on the first page and not on the last edited point, because the user data do not match the document author. Regards Ricardo
Re: Is there a AOO repo for ubuntu?
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.netwrote: Le Wed, 2 May 2012 19:30:22 -0300, Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com a écrit : 2012/5/2 Wolf Haltonwolf.hal...@gmail.com Well I have both LO and AOO running simultaneously on my system right now. Should be interesting. Good! How? You used command dpkg -i --force-all *.deb No need. If the Ubuntu package has been removed and you have donwloaded the tarball from the LibO site, then just use the same command line, no need of the --force-all option. The only remaining thing however seems to be the icons: I still get the LibO icons in Nautilus. But they are not bad so it's not a problem (for me). Hagar I am one of the odd ones who actually enjoys having multiple very-similar office suites available, if I can choose the one I want to work with. :-) I have both sets of icons in my main menu on Ubuntu_Studio 12.04 -- This Apt Has Super Cow Powers - http://sourcefreedom.com Advancing Libraries Together - http://LYRASIS.org
Re: I want to stay informed about OpenOffice option for the home page?
Am 05/03/2012 09:48 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On 05/03/2012 11:29 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/03/2012 09:43 AM, Rob Weir wrote: One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from OpenOffice.org. Does anyone recall what that used to do? For example, did it sign users up for the annou...@openoffice.org mailing list? I don't recall the registration doing this... If so, since that is gone, we've lost the primary way for users to say that they want to get occasional updates from us. This reduces our opportunity to engage with our users. I wonder if it would be worth adding to the home page, a new option: I want to stay informed about OpenOffice? That could go to a page where we give information on the announce list, the project blog, etc. It would take the place of the old registration system. -Rob I think this is definitely worthwhile! Either as a permanent news item, or something similar -- a new tab, a new main menu option. If we had it as a new home page option we would need an icon, similar size and color palette as the others. But an icon of what? well...maybe one of more artistic members could weigh in on this one... I don't have any ideas... I think that a blackboard or megaphone could fit as icon. Some examples (don't look to close to content and size) http://www.thegraphicmac.com/wp-content/uploads/aps_facebook-notify-icon.jpg http://www.trueswitch.com/images/notify_icon_big.gif http://ranchero.com/images/nnw3.2AppIcon-512.png http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/snake3d/snake3d/snake3d00038/11270762-megaphone-sale-announcement-loudspeaker-news-communication-icon-golden-red-bullhorn-message-symbol-a.jpg Marcus
Re: [RELEASE]: proposed directory structure on dist
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/02/2012 09:48 PM, Roberto Galoppini wrote: On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:55 AM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/02/2012 03:04 AM, J�rgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, to sum up this longer thread and the structure how I will upload the bits Source release reflecting a future directory structure already: .../incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/aoo-3.4.0-incubating-src.tar.bz2 .../incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/aoo-3.4.0-incubating-src.tar.gz .../incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/aoo-3.4.0-incubating-src.zip .../incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/... Binary releases keeping the old structure: .../incubator/ooo/files/stable/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/ar/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/cs/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/de/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/en-BG/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/es/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/fr/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/gl/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/hu/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/it/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/ja/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/nl/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/pt-BR/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/ru/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/zh-CN/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/zh-TW/3.4.0/... The directories will include all files (including the checksum files) for all platforms and the language packs. The SDK is available in en-US only and o only in ...files/stable Juergen Thanks again for keeping things as they were for the time being. Hi all, We've loaded the current files, please let us know when youupload more files, so that we can update the rest in a timely manner. Roberto-- Hi. Well my test index page worked well with my linux setup for client download -- i.e. from files/stable/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Linux_x86_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz/download so happy so far. :) Thanks for the feedback. Roberto Please note that the 3.4.0 folder is staged on sourceforge, which means that directly links to files in it will work, but visitors browsing the files will not see them. By the way, is someone coordinating with MirrorBrain maintainers to manage updates to serve the Look for updates function? Roberto -- MzK Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you And life has a funny way of helping you out Helping you out. -- Ironic, Alanis Morissette -- MzK Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you And life has a funny way of helping you out Helping you out. -- Ironic, Alanis Morissette -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction
On 04/30/2012 08:30 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: Kay- I've setup a new script for you to use for Openoffice downloads from Apache mirrors- simply replace closer.cgi with aoo-closer.cgi in your paths.� Please don't forget this or users could be directed to mirrors which have opted out of carrying AOO releases. OK, Joe -- I just tested this out as well, and all good! Thanks so much! From: Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction Regina-- Thanks for all this work. Please see comments inline below... On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Regina Henschelrb.hensc...@t-online.dewrote: Hi, my test results are below, all on German WinXP Home, SP3. kind regards Regina Marcus (OOo) schrieb: � Am 04/30/2012 11:21 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On 04/30/2012 11:37 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 04/30/2012 04:53 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/27/2012 01:46 PM, Rob Weir wrote: � On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Andrea Pescettipesce...@apache.org wrote: � Kay Schenk wrote: Please take a look at and give feedback on a test page for the new /download/index.html page at: http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index_new_dl.htmlhttp://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**html http://www.openoffice.**org/download/test/index_new_**dl.htmlhttp://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html Yes, it's a bit strange with lots of nonsense at the top that I wanted you to see, but will of course go away in production. The page is nice, but it's the concept that leaves me dubious. We have another thread http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.incubator.**http://comments.gmane.org/**gmane.comp.apache.incubator.** ooo.devel/16219http://**comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.** apache.incubator.ooo.devel/**16219http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.incubator.ooo.devel/16219 where there seems to be consensus towards a solution that: 1) Uses SF (and possibly Apache) for the web-based downloads 2) Does not phase out MirrorBrain, and uses it for the updates (i.e., downloads initiated by OpenOffice with the Look for updates function) � That's what I understand as well. oh -- OK. I thought we were going to use MirrorBrain for 3.3 DLs as well -- i.e. what Marcus will be working on. I know right now, we're using SourceForge for that though. � The possibly Apache in 1) is due to the fact that I haven't understood yet what technology Apache will be using and if Apache will distribute only sources or binaries too (it's obvious that we as a project will release sources and binaries, but I'm not 100% sure that Apache wants to put binaries on its mirrors too: I think so). � Well it's not all that complicated actually. Take a look at the security patch info page... http://www.openoffice.org/security/cves/CVE-2012-0037.htmlhttp://www.openoffice.org/**security/cves/CVE-2012-0037.**html http://www.openoffice.**org/security/cves/CVE-2012-**0037.htmlhttp://www.openoffice.org/security/cves/CVE-2012-0037.html and you can see what the link looks like. Actual source/binaries are, for us, put in: http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/http://www.apache.org/dist/**incubator/ooo/ http://www.**apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/ ** This said, you could be right in having issues tracking down problems. Right now, the SF setup is more user friendly in my opinion. I thought we were *required* to use Apache for downloads, but maybe we've gotten a dispensation for this release. Though I didn't think is was 100% someplace else. I admit I haven't kept up as much as I should have though. The other issue is how will it LOOK to users -- one moment they may be one place; if they happen to do a shift-reload, they may go someplace else with an entirely different look and feel. � Fact is, we should avoid the random selection as much as possible, mainly to be able to quickly identify problems, and you will see details in that thread. The cleaner separation we can get, the better. � So how about something very simple: 1) AOO 3.4 downloads use SourceForge by default from the /download/index.html page. Just like they are doing today. This WOULD make things a lot simpler. � But we also have a links there that point to Apache mirrors for: a) Hashes and detached signatures b) source distribution c) a link to the full release tree Well, SF will need to implement in their sidebar or the main page for openoffice.org they have, right? Anyway, good conversation. � In other words, no rolling the dice, noting fancy. 100% of normal users will download from SF. 2) When we enable the automated updates, in a week or two, then we decide what we want to do. Maybe we do it via SF.
Re: Getting Started with AOO book
Hi Jean, 2012/5/2 Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com Over the years I've done quite a bit of that type of recruitment. My experience is that such efforts mostly bring forth a collection of wannabe writers who waste enormous amounts of my time and produce nothing useful, and reviewers who nitpick but don't notice actual errors in content. The few productive members of the ODFAuthors team appear to have come on their own, and those few make great contributions. For the various reasons mentioned above, I personally am not motivated to do any of the sort of recruitment you suggest at this time. If someone else wants to do so, that's fine. I can understand your reticence with a too big campaign of recrutement. The Take all what you find, put all the business in a pot, add a liter ketchup and mix is a modern method of management but certainly not a good one.;-) But you haven't to be demotivated, because with a few people you have produced, without noise, an useful and concret work. Thus, you haven't to assume all the job here, this project has also to take its responsabilities, but your experience has a high value here where all has to be started. A+ -- gw
Re: I want to stay informed about OpenOffice option for the home page?
On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 22:29 +0200, RGB ES wrote: 2012/5/3 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org: On 03/05/2012 Rob Weir wrote: One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from OpenOffice.org. Does anyone recall what that used to do? If I recall correctly, in different periods it was used for a user survey (and this would be a meaningful suggestion for the future maybe), for registering accounts at Sun and for registering accounts at Oracle. You can get an idea of the survey at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Renaissance:Phase_1:OOoUser_Survey Regards, Andrea. It was also used to register the user with him/herself: The registration process helped the user to fill the fields under Tools → Options → OpenOffice.org → User data. Now, for most new users that info will remain empty. While not a problem by itself, this means for example that documents will always open on the first page and not on the last edited point, because the user data do not match the document author. Regards Hi Ricardo That is a very good point IMO. I think it's fair to look at that as the loss of an, optional, feature - this step of entering user information. I'm tempted to ask you to use the issue tracker, entering the description and marking the issue as Request for Enhancement. Not that we should have the on-line registration, but rather to add a (strong?) prompt during installation, with the intent to have the user enter that information. What do you think? //drew
Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce
Am 04/29/2012 11:50 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel: Hi Marcus, Marcus (OOo) schrieb: Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It would be great to confirm that this list is complete and to have a volunteer's name listed against each one of these tasks. Note the additional complexity caused by having hard-coded download logic on the various NL pages. I'll try to setup the separation for the OOo 3.3.0 download links. Good idea to start. The draft setup is finished. Please have a look here: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html The interaction of the orange and green part is confusing. There is text green button but there is no green button. The orange text itself is a hyperlink, but what target? The user might come to that page via search, but do not want the legacy but an actual version. I miss a hint, where to go. Please compare with http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html, from where I took the sentence in my suggestion. I suggest to use the orange part as information box. Legacy OpenOffice.org If you are searching for the most recent installation set, please visit the linkApache OpenOffice download/link webpage. Please note that archived builds are unsupported and may contain security issues. So, it's highly recommended not to use them but only when there is no other and better choice. OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License v3 (LGPL v3) Download OpenOffice.org 3.3.0 ... Thanks for the hints. To do the HTML and JS stuff is easier than to find the right words. ;-) Due to the CSS stuff I had to modify it a bit. I hope it's more clear now. Marcus I've edited both webpages again: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/other.html When I don't hear any further feedback I'll publish this as final. Thanks Marcus
Re: I want to stay informed about OpenOffice option for the home page?
2012/5/3 drew d...@baseanswers.com: On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 22:29 +0200, RGB ES wrote: 2012/5/3 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org: On 03/05/2012 Rob Weir wrote: One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from OpenOffice.org. Does anyone recall what that used to do? If I recall correctly, in different periods it was used for a user survey (and this would be a meaningful suggestion for the future maybe), for registering accounts at Sun and for registering accounts at Oracle. You can get an idea of the survey at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Renaissance:Phase_1:OOoUser_Survey Regards, Andrea. It was also used to register the user with him/herself: The registration process helped the user to fill the fields under Tools → Options → OpenOffice.org → User data. Now, for most new users that info will remain empty. While not a problem by itself, this means for example that documents will always open on the first page and not on the last edited point, because the user data do not match the document author. Regards Hi Ricardo That is a very good point IMO. I think it's fair to look at that as the loss of an, optional, feature - this step of entering user information. I'm tempted to ask you to use the issue tracker, entering the description and marking the issue as Request for Enhancement. Not that we should have the on-line registration, but rather to add a (strong?) prompt during installation, with the intent to have the user enter that information. What do you think? //drew Instead of asking for this on install time, I think we need to define a first run wizard or something like that. It could be a simple document that opens on first run with a thanks for using this program message and a couple of buttons to perform some basic customizations, like adding the user info. I'm too short of sleep today to build a good feature request, but I'll try to think on something during the weekend. Ideas are welcomed ;) Regards Ricardo
Re: Is there a AOO repo for ubuntu?
On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 16:29 -0400, Wolf Halton wrote: On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.netwrote: Le Wed, 2 May 2012 19:30:22 -0300, Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com a écrit : 2012/5/2 Wolf Haltonwolf.hal...@gmail.com Well I have both LO and AOO running simultaneously on my system right now. Should be interesting. Good! How? You used command dpkg -i --force-all *.deb No need. If the Ubuntu package has been removed and you have donwloaded the tarball from the LibO site, then just use the same command line, no need of the --force-all option. The only remaining thing however seems to be the icons: I still get the LibO icons in Nautilus. But they are not bad so it's not a problem (for me). Hagar I am one of the odd ones who actually enjoys having multiple very-similar office suites available, if I can choose the one I want to work with. :-) I have both sets of icons in my main menu on Ubuntu_Studio 12.04 Right - well, Hagar is referring not to the application icons, having multiple installs (including as it has been for a long time, both the distro version of OO.o and the vanilla version) - it's the file association icons. Installing the vanilla packages doesn't update the system settings for the file association. That's more a question IMO about how we would want the files in the PPA to install - as the current vanilla deb packages do, my first vote would be for this. Though I would be in favor of offering an option to change the file type (mime type) associations, ala Windows install. //drew
Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce
On May 3, 2012, at 2:10 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 04/29/2012 11:50 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel: Hi Marcus, Marcus (OOo) schrieb: Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It would be great to confirm that this list is complete and to have a volunteer's name listed against each one of these tasks. Note the additional complexity caused by having hard-coded download logic on the various NL pages. I'll try to setup the separation for the OOo 3.3.0 download links. Good idea to start. The draft setup is finished. Please have a look here: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html The interaction of the orange and green part is confusing. There is text green button but there is no green button. The orange text itself is a hyperlink, but what target? The user might come to that page via search, but do not want the legacy but an actual version. I miss a hint, where to go. Please compare with http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html, from where I took the sentence in my suggestion. I suggest to use the orange part as information box. Legacy OpenOffice.org If you are searching for the most recent installation set, please visit the linkApache OpenOffice download/link webpage. Please note that archived builds are unsupported and may contain security issues. So, it's highly recommended not to use them but only when there is no other and better choice. OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License v3 (LGPL v3) Download OpenOffice.org 3.3.0 ... Thanks for the hints. To do the HTML and JS stuff is easier than to find the right words. ;-) Due to the CSS stuff I had to modify it a bit. I hope it's more clear now. Marcus I've edited both webpages again: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html I have only one criticism. The phrase: OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License v3 (LGPL v3) appears twice on the same button. Otherwise great! Regards, Dave http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/other.html When I don't hear any further feedback I'll publish this as final. Thanks Marcus
Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 04/29/2012 11:50 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel: Hi Marcus, Marcus (OOo) schrieb: Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It would be great to confirm that this list is complete and to have a volunteer's name listed against each one of these tasks. Note the additional complexity caused by having hard-coded download logic on the various NL pages. I'll try to setup the separation for the OOo 3.3.0 download links. Good idea to start. The draft setup is finished. Please have a look here: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html The interaction of the orange and green part is confusing. There is text green button but there is no green button. The orange text itself is a hyperlink, but what target? The user might come to that page via search, but do not want the legacy but an actual version. I miss a hint, where to go. Please compare with http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html, from where I took the sentence in my suggestion. I suggest to use the orange part as information box. Legacy OpenOffice.org If you are searching for the most recent installation set, please visit the linkApache OpenOffice download/link webpage. Please note that archived builds are unsupported and may contain security issues. So, it's highly recommended not to use them but only when there is no other and better choice. OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License v3 (LGPL v3) Download OpenOffice.org 3.3.0 ... Thanks for the hints. To do the HTML and JS stuff is easier than to find the right words. ;-) Due to the CSS stuff I had to modify it a bit. I hope it's more clear now. Marcus I've edited both webpages again: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/other.html When I don't hear any further feedback I'll publish this as final. On http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html: I expected something to happen when I clicked on the Get the legacy OpenOffice.org button. But nothing does. WinXP/Firefox 12.0. The icon changed from an arrow to a hand when over that box, but clicking does nothing. The other boxes work fine. Do we know how this will be linked from the /download/index.html page? The other.html page looks and works fine. Good work! -Rob Thanks Marcus
Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce
Am 05/03/2012 11:25 PM, schrieb Dave Fisher: On May 3, 2012, at 2:10 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 04/29/2012 11:50 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel: Hi Marcus, Marcus (OOo) schrieb: Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It would be great to confirm that this list is complete and to have a volunteer's name listed against each one of these tasks. Note the additional complexity caused by having hard-coded download logic on the various NL pages. I'll try to setup the separation for the OOo 3.3.0 download links. Good idea to start. The draft setup is finished. Please have a look here: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html The interaction of the orange and green part is confusing. There is text green button but there is no green button. The orange text itself is a hyperlink, but what target? The user might come to that page via search, but do not want the legacy but an actual version. I miss a hint, where to go. Please compare with http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html, from where I took the sentence in my suggestion. I suggest to use the orange part as information box. Legacy OpenOffice.org If you are searching for the most recent installation set, please visit thelinkApache OpenOffice download/link webpage. Please note that archived builds are unsupported and may contain security issues. So, it's highly recommended not to use them but only when there is no other and better choice. OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License v3 (LGPL v3) Download OpenOffice.org 3.3.0 ... Thanks for the hints. To do the HTML and JS stuff is easier than to find the right words. ;-) Due to the CSS stuff I had to modify it a bit. I hope it's more clear now. Marcus I've edited both webpages again: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html I have only one criticism. The phrase: OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License v3 (LGPL v3) appears twice on the same button. Really the same? For me it's a) in the bigger one and b) in the first small one. But maybe doesn't matter. In a) I wanted to explain what the lisence is and in b) to refer to the full text. However, as Pedro wanted to remove all pre-ALv2 lisencing text from http://www.openoffice.org/license.html; I will link directly to the text from GNU.org and name the link different. Otherwise great! Thanks Marcus http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/other.html When I don't hear any further feedback I'll publish this as final. Thanks Marcus
Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce
Hi Marcus, Marcus (OOo) schrieb: Am 04/29/2012 11:50 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel: Hi Marcus, Marcus (OOo) schrieb: Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It would be great to confirm that this list is complete and to have a volunteer's name listed against each one of these tasks. Note the additional complexity caused by having hard-coded download logic on the various NL pages. I'll try to setup the separation for the OOo 3.3.0 download links. Good idea to start. The draft setup is finished. Please have a look here: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html The interaction of the orange and green part is confusing. There is text green button but there is no green button. The orange text itself is a hyperlink, but what target? The user might come to that page via search, but do not want the legacy but an actual version. I miss a hint, where to go. Please compare with http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html, from where I took the sentence in my suggestion. I suggest to use the orange part as information box. Legacy OpenOffice.org If you are searching for the most recent installation set, please visit the linkApache OpenOffice download/link webpage. Please note that archived builds are unsupported and may contain security issues. So, it's highly recommended not to use them but only when there is no other and better choice. OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License v3 (LGPL v3) Download OpenOffice.org 3.3.0 ... Thanks for the hints. To do the HTML and JS stuff is easier than to find the right words. ;-) Due to the CSS stuff I had to modify it a bit. I hope it's more clear now. Marcus I've edited both webpages again: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html Users are likely do not really know about the difference between OOo and AOO. Therefore the wording start downloading the most recent version might be misleading. You mean the most recent version of OOo, but the user might think, the most recent version in general. Which version number the user is going to download, is said in the heading. So the additional information about language and OS is sufficient here. If many versions of a procuct are provided, the user expects to get the most recent one when using default settings. Suggestions (1) Add legacy Click to start downloading the most recent legacy version for Windows and German. (2) or skip it totally Click to start downloading the legacy version for Windows and German. (3) or repeat the version string from the heading Click to start downloading OpenOffice.org 3.0 for Windows and German. I have played a little bit around with Opera. It seems, that it struggles about the variables VERSION, MIRROR, SCHEMA. I assume that they are global and not present in this staging version. Hopefully Opera shows the green part too, when the page is produced. The orange disclaimer has anchor elements without target href. That produces the hand-cursor in the browser, which indicates, that there is a hyperlink. But here is no hyperlink and nothing happens, when clicking. Therefore it it confusing. Please remove the anchor markup. Kind regards Regina http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/other.html When I don't hear any further feedback I'll publish this as final.
Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce
On 05/03/2012 02:59 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 05/03/2012 11:33 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 04/29/2012 11:50 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel: Hi Marcus, Marcus (OOo) schrieb: Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It would be great to confirm that this list is complete and to have a volunteer's name listed against each one of these tasks. Note the additional complexity caused by having hard-coded download logic on the various NL pages. I'll try to setup the separation for the OOo 3.3.0 download links. Good idea to start. The draft setup is finished. Please have a look here: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html The interaction of the orange and green part is confusing. There is text green button but there is no green button. The orange text itself is a hyperlink, but what target? The user might come to that page via search, but do not want the legacy but an actual version. I miss a hint, where to go. Please compare with http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html, from where I took the sentence in my suggestion. I suggest to use the orange part as information box. Legacy OpenOffice.org If you are searching for the most recent installation set, please visit thelinkApache OpenOffice download/link webpage. Please note that archived builds are unsupported and may contain security issues. So, it's highly recommended not to use them but only when there is no other and better choice. OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License v3 (LGPL v3) Download OpenOffice.org 3.3.0 ... Thanks for the hints. To do the HTML and JS stuff is easier than to find the right words. ;-) Due to the CSS stuff I had to modify it a bit. I hope it's more clear now. Marcus I've edited both webpages again: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/other.html When I don't hear any further feedback I'll publish this as final. On http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html: I expected something to happen when I clicked on the Get the legacy OpenOffice.org button. But nothing does. WinXP/Firefox 12.0. The I've removed the link function and used the box just to show the infomational text. Therefore only a red color box without the big arrow pointing down on mouseover (compare with the green box). icon changed from an arrow to a hand when over that box, but clicking does nothing. The other boxes work fine. In CSS (.../legacy/exceptions.css) I've already set the mouse pointer to default - which should show as arrow - but this doesn't seem to work. :-( oh boy...the trials and tribulations of css Do we know how this will be linked from the /download/index.html page? I think there was no idea mentioned yet. A link in the right nav bar should be enough - instead of a bigger colored box in the middle. OK, so how DO we want this linked in? Right now, we have -- Searching for another version? Get all platforms, languages, language packs | Release Notes | MD5 checksums in the light green DL button options section on: http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html the test DL page. Do we want to add something here, or add a it in the side menu someplace... ( and I just noticed some additional things I need to change there! oops!) The other.html page looks and works fine. Good work! Thanks Marcus -- MzK Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you And life has a funny way of helping you out Helping you out. -- Ironic, Alanis Morissette
Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/03/2012 02:59 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 05/03/2012 11:33 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 04/29/2012 11:50 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel: Hi Marcus, Marcus (OOo) schrieb: Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It would be great to confirm that this list is complete and to have a volunteer's name listed against each one of these tasks. Note the additional complexity caused by having hard-coded download logic on the various NL pages. I'll try to setup the separation for the OOo 3.3.0 download links. Good idea to start. The draft setup is finished. Please have a look here: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html The interaction of the orange and green part is confusing. There is text green button but there is no green button. The orange text itself is a hyperlink, but what target? The user might come to that page via search, but do not want the legacy but an actual version. I miss a hint, where to go. Please compare with http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html , from where I took the sentence in my suggestion. I suggest to use the orange part as information box. Legacy OpenOffice.org If you are searching for the most recent installation set, please visit thelinkApache OpenOffice download/link webpage. Please note that archived builds are unsupported and may contain security issues. So, it's highly recommended not to use them but only when there is no other and better choice. OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License v3 (LGPL v3) Download OpenOffice.org 3.3.0 ... Thanks for the hints. To do the HTML and JS stuff is easier than to find the right words. ;-) Due to the CSS stuff I had to modify it a bit. I hope it's more clear now. Marcus I've edited both webpages again: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/other.html When I don't hear any further feedback I'll publish this as final. On http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html: I expected something to happen when I clicked on the Get the legacy OpenOffice.org button. But nothing does. WinXP/Firefox 12.0. The I've removed the link function and used the box just to show the infomational text. Therefore only a red color box without the big arrow pointing down on mouseover (compare with the green box). icon changed from an arrow to a hand when over that box, but clicking does nothing. The other boxes work fine. In CSS (.../legacy/exceptions.css) I've already set the mouse pointer to default - which should show as arrow - but this doesn't seem to work. :-( oh boy...the trials and tribulations of css I wonder if it would be simpler to just put that info in a p and not have a box at all. Boxes seem to lead the user to click. It looks like a button. So if we have nothing to click, then don't use a box. Do we know how this will be linked from the /download/index.html page? I think there was no idea mentioned yet. A link in the right nav bar should be enough - instead of a bigger colored box in the middle. OK, so how DO we want this linked in? Right now, we have -- Searching for another version? Get all platforms, languages, language packs | Release Notes | MD5 checksums in the light green DL button options section on: http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html the test DL page. Do we want to add something here, or add a it in the side menu someplace... ( and I just noticed some additional things I need to change there! oops!) Oh, it looks much nicer now that the alerts are gone! One idea to support the legacy links: Right now we have three simple links under the top button: Searching for another version? Get all platforms, languages, language packs | Release Notes | MD5 checksums What if we shortened the first link, and added another one, like this: Other Platforms and Languages | Older Versions | Release Notes | Signatures and Hashes fine... (note in this version I've changed MD5 checksum to Signatures and Hashes since the Apache releases come with 2 differnt hashes as well as a detached signature. And that reminds me we'll need a page for that. ...uh, OK, where do we get them I don't see anything like this right now
Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 05/04/2012 12:12 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On 05/03/2012 02:59 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 05/03/2012 11:33 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 04/29/2012 11:50 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel: Hi Marcus, Marcus (OOo) schrieb: Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** AOO+3.4+Distribution+Taskshttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It would be great to confirm that this list is complete and to have a volunteer's name listed against each one of these tasks. Note the additional complexity caused by having hard-coded download logic on the various NL pages. I'll try to setup the separation for the OOo 3.3.0 download links. Good idea to start. The draft setup is finished. Please have a look here: http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/legacy/**index.htmlhttp://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html The interaction of the orange and green part is confusing. There is text green button but there is no green button. The orange text itself is a hyperlink, but what target? The user might come to that page via search, but do not want the legacy but an actual version. I miss a hint, where to go. Please compare with http://www.openoffice.org/** download/archive.htmlhttp://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html , from where I took the sentence in my suggestion. I suggest to use the orange part as information box. Legacy OpenOffice.org If you are searching for the most recent installation set, please visit thelinkApache OpenOffice download/link webpage. Please note that archived builds are unsupported and may contain security issues. So, it's highly recommended not to use them but only when there is no other and better choice. OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License v3 (LGPL v3) Download OpenOffice.org 3.3.0 ... Thanks for the hints. To do the HTML and JS stuff is easier than to find the right words. ;-) Due to the CSS stuff I had to modify it a bit. I hope it's more clear now. Marcus I've edited both webpages again: http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/legacy/**index.htmlhttp://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/legacy/**other.htmlhttp://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/other.html When I don't hear any further feedback I'll publish this as final. On http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/legacy/**index.htmlhttp://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html : I expected something to happen when I clicked on the Get the legacy OpenOffice.org button. But nothing does. WinXP/Firefox 12.0. The I've removed the link function and used the box just to show the infomational text. Therefore only a red color box without the big arrow pointing down on mouseover (compare with the green box). icon changed from an arrow to a hand when over that box, but clicking does nothing. The other boxes work fine. In CSS (.../legacy/exceptions.css) I've already set the mouse pointer to default - which should show as arrow - but this doesn't seem to work. :-( oh boy...the trials and tribulations of css Yes, maybe someone else can enlighten me? so sorry...I am not even close to being a css guru. :( Do we know how this will be linked from the /download/index.html page? I think there was no idea mentioned yet. A link in the right nav bar should be enough - instead of a bigger colored box in the middle. OK, so how DO we want this linked in? Right now, we have -- Searching for another version? Get all platforms, languages, language packs | Release Notes | MD5 checksums in the light green DL button options section on: http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**htmlhttp://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html the test DL page. Do we want to add something here, or add a it in the side menu someplace... I would +1 to put it in the nav bar on the right hand side. An own sub headline is fine, too. Marcus ( and I just noticed some additional things I need to change there! oops!) The other.html page looks and works fine. Good work! Thanks Marcus -- MzK Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you And life has a funny way of helping you out Helping you out. -- Ironic, Alanis Morissette
[DL] question concerning NL downloads...or not
Just a quick philosophical questions for the upcoming 3.4 download. Right now, as I relayed in a previous message, I commented out ALL the language entries for which we have do not have packs available on our Apache mirror setup. What this means is that folks with a language string identifier which we are no longer supporting will probably end up on the other.html page, which is in English. Another option would be to setup the language array by placing them back in the process, and, instead of commenting them out, indicate through one of the flags already available that the release for the language is NOT available on the mirror system, as many of them were already. Folks will then be sent back to their current native language site. There, of course, they will not find an update, but they won't be any worse off than they are now in some respects. Any thoughts on this? Is the latter alternative more desirable -- or not. -- MzK Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you And life has a funny way of helping you out Helping you out. -- Ironic, Alanis Morissette
Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce
Am 05/03/2012 11:54 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel: Hi Marcus, Marcus (OOo) schrieb: Am 04/29/2012 11:50 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel: Hi Marcus, Marcus (OOo) schrieb: Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It would be great to confirm that this list is complete and to have a volunteer's name listed against each one of these tasks. Note the additional complexity caused by having hard-coded download logic on the various NL pages. I'll try to setup the separation for the OOo 3.3.0 download links. Good idea to start. The draft setup is finished. Please have a look here: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html The interaction of the orange and green part is confusing. There is text green button but there is no green button. The orange text itself is a hyperlink, but what target? The user might come to that page via search, but do not want the legacy but an actual version. I miss a hint, where to go. Please compare with http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html, from where I took the sentence in my suggestion. I suggest to use the orange part as information box. Legacy OpenOffice.org If you are searching for the most recent installation set, please visit the linkApache OpenOffice download/link webpage. Please note that archived builds are unsupported and may contain security issues. So, it's highly recommended not to use them but only when there is no other and better choice. OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License v3 (LGPL v3) Download OpenOffice.org 3.3.0 ... Thanks for the hints. To do the HTML and JS stuff is easier than to find the right words. ;-) Due to the CSS stuff I had to modify it a bit. I hope it's more clear now. Marcus I've edited both webpages again: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html Users are likely do not really know about the difference between OOo and AOO. Therefore the wording start downloading the most recent version might be misleading. You mean the most recent version of OOo, but the user might think, the most recent version in general. Which version number the user is going to download, is said in the heading. So the additional information about language and OS is sufficient here. If many versions of a procuct are provided, the user expects to get the most recent one when using default settings. Suggestions (1) Add legacy Click to start downloading the most recent legacy version for Windows and German. (2) or skip it totally Click to start downloading the legacy version for Windows and German. (3) or repeat the version string from the heading Click to start downloading OpenOffice.org 3.0 for Windows and German. I have played a little bit around with Opera. It seems, that it struggles about the variables VERSION, MIRROR, SCHEMA. I assume that they are global and not present in this staging version. Hopefully Opera shows the green part too, when the page is produced. The orange disclaimer has anchor elements without target href. That produces the hand-cursor in the browser, which indicates, that there is a hyperlink. But here is no hyperlink and nothing happens, when clicking. Therefore it it confusing. Please remove the anchor markup. Thanks for your hints. Just to let you know that this will be my task for tomorrow. Marcus http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/other.html When I don't hear any further feedback I'll publish this as final.
Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/03/2012 02:59 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 05/03/2012 11:33 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 04/29/2012 11:50 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel: Hi Marcus, Marcus (OOo) schrieb: Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It would be great to confirm that this list is complete and to have a volunteer's name listed against each one of these tasks. Note the additional complexity caused by having hard-coded download logic on the various NL pages. I'll try to setup the separation for the OOo 3.3.0 download links. Good idea to start. The draft setup is finished. Please have a look here: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html The interaction of the orange and green part is confusing. There is text green button but there is no green button. The orange text itself is a hyperlink, but what target? The user might come to that page via search, but do not want the legacy but an actual version. I miss a hint, where to go. Please compare with http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html , from where I took the sentence in my suggestion. I suggest to use the orange part as information box. Legacy OpenOffice.org If you are searching for the most recent installation set, please visit thelinkApache OpenOffice download/link webpage. Please note that archived builds are unsupported and may contain security issues. So, it's highly recommended not to use them but only when there is no other and better choice. OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public License v3 (LGPL v3) Download OpenOffice.org 3.3.0 ... Thanks for the hints. To do the HTML and JS stuff is easier than to find the right words. ;-) Due to the CSS stuff I had to modify it a bit. I hope it's more clear now. Marcus I've edited both webpages again: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/other.html When I don't hear any further feedback I'll publish this as final. On http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html: I expected something to happen when I clicked on the Get the legacy OpenOffice.org button. But nothing does. WinXP/Firefox 12.0. The I've removed the link function and used the box just to show the infomational text. Therefore only a red color box without the big arrow pointing down on mouseover (compare with the green box). icon changed from an arrow to a hand when over that box, but clicking does nothing. The other boxes work fine. In CSS (.../legacy/exceptions.css) I've already set the mouse pointer to default - which should show as arrow - but this doesn't seem to work. :-( oh boy...the trials and tribulations of css I wonder if it would be simpler to just put that info in a p and not have a box at all. Boxes seem to lead the user to click. It looks like a button. So if we have nothing to click, then don't use a box. Do we know how this will be linked from the /download/index.html page? I think there was no idea mentioned yet. A link in the right nav bar should be enough - instead of a bigger colored box in the middle. OK, so how DO we want this linked in? Right now, we have -- Searching for another version? Get all platforms, languages, language packs | Release Notes | MD5 checksums in the light green DL button options section on: http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html the test DL page. Do we want to add something here, or add a it in the side menu someplace... ( and I just noticed some additional things I need to change there! oops!) Oh, it looks much nicer now that the alerts are gone! One idea to support the legacy links: Right now we have three simple links under the top button: Searching for another version? Get all platforms, languages, language packs | Release Notes | MD5 checksums What if we shortened the first link, and added another one, like this: Other Platforms and Languages | Older Versions | Release Notes | Signatures and Hashes fine... (note in this version I've changed MD5 checksum to Signatures and Hashes since the Apache releases come with 2 differnt hashes as well as a detached signature. And that reminds me we'll need a page for that.
Re: Is there a AOO repo for ubuntu?
http://sourcefreedom.com Apache developer: wolfhal...@apache.org On May 3, 2012 5:20 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 16:29 -0400, Wolf Halton wrote: On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net wrote: Le Wed, 2 May 2012 19:30:22 -0300, Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com a écrit : 2012/5/2 Wolf Haltonwolf.hal...@gmail.com Well I have both LO and AOO running simultaneously on my system right now. Should be interesting. Good! How? You used command dpkg -i --force-all *.deb No need. If the Ubuntu package has been removed and you have donwloaded the tarball from the LibO site, then just use the same command line, no need of the --force-all option. The only remaining thing however seems to be the icons: I still get the LibO icons in Nautilus. But they are not bad so it's not a problem (for me). Hagar I am one of the odd ones who actually enjoys having multiple very-similar office suites available, if I can choose the one I want to work with. :-) I have both sets of icons in my main menu on Ubuntu_Studio 12.04 Right - well, Hagar is referring not to the application icons, having multiple installs (including as it has been for a long time, both the distro version of OO.o and the vanilla version) - it's the file association icons. Installing the vanilla packages doesn't update the system settings for the file association. That's more a question IMO about how we would want the files in the PPA to install - as the current vanilla deb packages do, my first vote would be for this. Though I would be in favor of offering an option to change the file type (mime type) associations, ala Windows install. //drew Oh, right. I see. I agree with offering a choice rather than just clobbering the old associations or leaving them alone as they were. -Wolf
Re: Introduces
Hi, Once you're done the press release we will translate it and inform the whole of Brazil about the big news: Apache OpenOffice return. rgs Luiz Em 02-05-2012 12:26, Donald Harbison escreveu: Welcome Luiz! I'm sure you and Claudio and other Brazilians will have alot of work to do! I hope that you can write about our news when it becomes officially public as soon as next week. On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Luiz. 2012/5/1 luizheli luizh...@gmail.com Hi, I am Luiz Oliveira, a journalistfrom Brazil. I led for a time the nationwide BrOffice users group. At the time we still had a magazine[1] created to give tips on the use of OpenOffice.org suite / BrOffice, designed by my friend Claudio Filho. I helped organize some editions of the National BrOffice event held via videoconference with the participation of up to 04 countries, along with other comrades here in Brazil. I believe in the Apache OpenOffice project and want to contribute to more Brazilians know it. [1] http://wiki.broffice.org/raw-attachment/wiki/Zine/Edicoes/RB-ED017.pdf?format=raw rgds, Luiz Oliveira Welcome friend. ;) We are the list Escritório Livre [1]. 1 - www.escritoriolivre.org Best, Albino @bino28
Re: Is there a AOO repo for ubuntu?
On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 19:42 -0400, Wolf Halton wrote: http://sourcefreedom.com Apache developer: wolfhal...@apache.org On May 3, 2012 5:20 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 16:29 -0400, Wolf Halton wrote: On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net wrote: Le Wed, 2 May 2012 19:30:22 -0300, Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com a écrit : 2012/5/2 Wolf Haltonwolf.hal...@gmail.com Well I have both LO and AOO running simultaneously on my system right now. Should be interesting. Good! How? You used command dpkg -i --force-all *.deb No need. If the Ubuntu package has been removed and you have donwloaded the tarball from the LibO site, then just use the same command line, no need of the --force-all option. The only remaining thing however seems to be the icons: I still get the LibO icons in Nautilus. But they are not bad so it's not a problem (for me). Hagar I am one of the odd ones who actually enjoys having multiple very-similar office suites available, if I can choose the one I want to work with. :-) I have both sets of icons in my main menu on Ubuntu_Studio 12.04 Right - well, Hagar is referring not to the application icons, having multiple installs (including as it has been for a long time, both the distro version of OO.o and the vanilla version) - it's the file association icons. Installing the vanilla packages doesn't update the system settings for the file association. That's more a question IMO about how we would want the files in the PPA to install - as the current vanilla deb packages do, my first vote would be for this. Though I would be in favor of offering an option to change the file type (mime type) associations, ala Windows install. //drew Oh, right. I see. I agree with offering a choice rather than just clobbering the old associations or leaving them alone as they were. Hi Wolf, My opinion would be that for the first step we would to deliver from the PPA exactly the same results one would get downloading the binary DEB files and following the manual installation procedure. Once we actually have that, checked and functioning well, IMO we should look at what extensions are appropriate - that issue of mime/assoc one, integration support for Unity, what do about Evolution.. etc. Anyway so I'd think. //drew
Re: Is there a AOO repo for ubuntu?
Hi. 2012/5/3 Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net Le Wed, 2 May 2012 19:30:22 -0300, Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com a écrit : 2012/5/2 Wolf Haltonwolf.hal...@gmail.com Well I have both LO and AOO running simultaneously on my system right now. Should be interesting. Good! How? You used command dpkg -i --force-all *.deb No need. If the Ubuntu package has been removed and you have donwloaded the tarball from the LibO site, then just use the same command line, no need of the --force-all option. The only remaining thing however seems to be the icons: I still get the LibO icons in Nautilus. But they are not bad so it's not a problem (for me). Understand, thanks. Albino
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Hi. 2012/5/3 Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de I've added it as candidate to this Wikipage: https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** AOO+3.4.1+Feature+Planninghttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4.1+Feature+Planning Marcus One question?! The Risto who will coordinate all translations (as a scale) of the next version? That is, a general coordinator of the languages and then. It would be a good idea, if he make available. Thanks, Albino
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Juergen et al, (*and I mean everyone*!), This is so amazing. My 'hats', my 'Apache Hat', 'my IBM Hat', are off to you guys. If I may be so direct as to say, we have come together in a new way, fashioning the future from the past. This may sound simple, but it is not. I think we can agree on this. This is just the beginning. We have very many steep hills to climb and more trust to build and more arguments to wage. That's the norm, right? Our users depend on us now, we must not let them down, while we invite them to join and work with us at the same time. Onwards! /don On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 1:46 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.comwrote: The vote period for releasing Apache OpenOffice (incubator) RC1 has concluded. The ballot passed. VOTE TALLY +1: IPMC members: +1 Marvin Humphrey +1 Dave Fisher +1 Jim Jagielski For reference see also the vote thread on ooo-dev http://mail-archives.apache.**org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-** dev/201204.mbox/%3C4F9A452A.**9000707%40googlemail.com%3Ehttp://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201204.mbox/%3C4F9A452A.9000707%40googlemail.com%3E Thank you for your support Juergen
Re: Introduces
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 8:20 PM, luizheli luizh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Once you're done the press release we will translate it and inform the whole of Brazil about the big news: Apache OpenOffice return. OK, great. Please hold 'your fire' until I provide you the final draft of the Press Release for your translation. I hope to deliver this to you by the end of tomorrow, Friday, May 4. That should give you enough time to prepare your plans for Brasil, and coordinate our schedules for announcement on May 8th. Thank you! /don rgs Luiz Em 02-05-2012 12:26, Donald Harbison escreveu: Welcome Luiz! I'm sure you and Claudio and other Brazilians will have alot of work to do! I hope that you can write about our news when it becomes officially public as soon as next week. On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Luiz. 2012/5/1 luizheli luizh...@gmail.com Hi, I am Luiz Oliveira, a journalistfrom Brazil. I led for a time the nationwide BrOffice users group. At the time we still had a magazine[1] created to give tips on the use of OpenOffice.org suite / BrOffice, designed by my friend Claudio Filho. I helped organize some editions of the National BrOffice event held via videoconference with the participation of up to 04 countries, along with other comrades here in Brazil. I believe in the Apache OpenOffice project and want to contribute to more Brazilians know it. [1] http://wiki.broffice.org/raw-attachment/wiki/Zine/Edicoes/RB-ED017.pdf?format=raw rgds, Luiz Oliveira Welcome friend. ;) We are the list Escritório Livre [1]. 1 - www.escritoriolivre.org Best, Albino @bino28
Need to rename ure-runtime
Hi, I am runnign Fedora 17. On it I installed Apache OO 3.4 RC1. I do not have LibreOffice installed on my system. However, launching the system updater notifies me that there is an update available for URE-Runtime (a component of LibreOffice) and proceeds to install such update. Needless to say, this installs over Apache OO 3.4 ure-runtime. If an update from the Fedora repos breaks Apache OpenOffice 3.4 who's to blame?. I asked this on the Fedora mailing list and Caolán McNamara caol...@redhat.com replied: -- Both Fedora openoffice.org and the original upstream openoffice.org ended up with a package called openoffice.org-ure. From various twists and turns the Fedora -ure ended up with a 1 Epoch so all fedora -ure packages are a higher n-v-r that the OOo one. Apache OOo has now presumably got the same package names as well. Fedora libreoffice has an upgrade path to update the Fedora openoffice.org so it would attempt to upgrade anything called openoffice.org-ure if installed. Can block the libreoffice-ure in your yum.conf -- I think this needs to be adressed by either LibreOffice or Apache OO so that neither package steps over the ure-runtime of the other. Thoughts? Comments? Thanks. FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act - George Orwell
Re: Feature idea - prompt users to fill user information meta data
These are wonderful ideas! If the person that installs OpenOffice gets a thank you notice PLUS links to help customize their experience - i.e. template links, etc. Everyone likes to personalize - and it also leaves a good feeling when you get an unexpected bonus. I have an idea for a thank you design or maybe an email design - tell me what you think: * An international envelope design - * http://www.123rf.com/photo_4088994_airmail-letter-with-uk-postage-meter-stamp.html * http://www.123rf.com/photo_9237063_blank-air-mail-letter-from-ivory-coast-with-football-world-cup-stamp-on-it-cancelled-in-agboville.html (using the wings and OpenOffice in place of the plane and par avion ) * The Apache OpenOffice logo on a stamp outline (similar to this but without any particular country)http://www.123rf.com/photo_12662325_photo-postage-stamp-on-a-black-background.html * Javascript or php enabled entries so that the user WANTS to fill out the form - I very much like this example - scroll down halfway and look at this comment box that lets the user fill out the name, etc. This is a lot more talent than I have, but the general idea http://www.livingdesign.info/2012/04/30/incept-by-alex-teuscher/#respond Since you mention meta data, is there any organic SEO research going on at this time? If so, I would suggest providing any information compiled from this new form/page, old openoffice.org audience information plus any new information gained from Google (and other) analytics in one wiki. Possibly a future/current SEO page? Knowing how the user found OpenOffice would help in organic SEO keyword research. This could help us design new landing pages. Keyword research would also reveal the words to be placed strategically in articles, blogs and the 'alt' section/title/heading tags of the html code. Nancy Nancy Web Design Free 24 hour pass to lynda.com. Video courses on SEO, CMS, Design and Software Courses From: drew d...@baseanswers.com To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 2:52 PM Subject: Feature idea - prompt users to fill user information meta data On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 23:13 +0200, RGB ES wrote: 2012/5/3 drew d...@baseanswers.com: On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 22:29 +0200, RGB ES wrote: 2012/5/3 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org: On 03/05/2012 Rob Weir wrote: One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from OpenOffice.org. Does anyone recall what that used to do? If I recall correctly, in different periods it was used for a user survey (and this would be a meaningful suggestion for the future maybe), for registering accounts at Sun and for registering accounts at Oracle. You can get an idea of the survey at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Renaissance:Phase_1:OOoUser_Survey Regards, Andrea. It was also used to register the user with him/herself: The registration process helped the user to fill the fields under Tools → Options → OpenOffice.org → User data. Now, for most new users that info will remain empty. While not a problem by itself, this means for example that documents will always open on the first page and not on the last edited point, because the user data do not match the document author. Regards Hi Ricardo That is a very good point IMO. I think it's fair to look at that as the loss of an, optional, feature - this step of entering user information. I'm tempted to ask you to use the issue tracker, entering the description and marking the issue as Request for Enhancement. Not that we should have the on-line registration, but rather to add a (strong?) prompt during installation, with the intent to have the user enter that information. What do you think? //drew Instead of asking for this on install time, I think we need to define a first run wizard or something like that. It could be a simple document that opens on first run with a thanks for using this program message and a couple of buttons to perform some basic customizations, like adding the user info. I'm too short of sleep today to build a good feature request, but I'll try to think on something during the weekend. Ideas are welcomed ;) Regards Howdy Ricardo Wonderful - I changed the subject (as you see). I was thinking also, prompted from another email just now that pointed to a 3.4.1 feature request page, that there is a 4.0 feature request page on the cwiki also.. per change that is an even better vector to start with. Catch you later, //drew
Re: Propose testlink
+1 Since more and more professional QAs joined our project, I think test case management system is a better choice than WIKI. If general users feel it's too complex, we can customized it later. 2012/5/3 Yan Ji yanji...@gmail.com: Hi all, As I recommend before, Testlink is an open source tool which used for test management, such as test project management, test specification management, test plan management, etc… If we adopt this tool in Aoo project, I'm sure we will gain lots of benefit. I built a virtual machine which host a TestLink demo. Is there any place I can put it to so everybody can practice. The file(.vdi) size is about 6.17 GB. Who can help? Thanks Best Regards, Yan Ji -- Best Regards From aliu...@gmail.com
Re: how to access aoo issue website?
Still can't connect to Bugzilla today in Beijing 2012/5/3 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: Are you not able to login to Bugzilla? Did you try resetting your password? Note that the BugZilla home page now has wrong instructions: -- Please Note: All users with accounts on the legacy OpenOffice.org tracker must reset their passwords to gain access to their old accounts. To reset your password, click on the Forgot Password link in the header or footer. [so far, instruction still apply] Note: If your user name when the service was hosted at Oracle was myuser, then your login for the migrated Bugzilla instance will be myu...@openoffice.org and e-mail to this address will redirect to the e-mail address associated with your Oracle/OpenOffice.org account pre-migration to the ASF. [this part is outdated: users should just write their full e-mail address - the real one, not the @openoffice.org alias; at least other users reported that this worked for them; I can't test since I migrated my account months ago] OK. I updated the text: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ Is that correct? Is there a clearer way to state this? -Rob -- Regards, Andrea.
Re: how to access aoo issue website?
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:03 PM, lifeng wang phoenix.wan...@gmail.com wrote: Still can't connect to Bugzilla today in Beijing 2012/5/3 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org Works fine for me right now. Can you ping issues.apache.org (140.211.11.121) ? -Rob On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: Are you not able to login to Bugzilla? Did you try resetting your password? Note that the BugZilla home page now has wrong instructions: -- Please Note: All users with accounts on the legacy OpenOffice.org tracker must reset their passwords to gain access to their old accounts. To reset your password, click on the Forgot Password link in the header or footer. [so far, instruction still apply] Note: If your user name when the service was hosted at Oracle was myuser, then your login for the migrated Bugzilla instance will be myu...@openoffice.org and e-mail to this address will redirect to the e-mail address associated with your Oracle/OpenOffice.org account pre-migration to the ASF. [this part is outdated: users should just write their full e-mail address - the real one, not the @openoffice.org alias; at least other users reported that this worked for them; I can't test since I migrated my account months ago] OK. I updated the text: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ Is that correct? Is there a clearer way to state this? -Rob -- Regards, Andrea.
Re: Propose testlink
+1 support to use Testlink to manage test cases and test tasks 2012/5/4 Zhe Liu aliu...@gmail.com +1 Since more and more professional QAs joined our project, I think test case management system is a better choice than WIKI. If general users feel it's too complex, we can customized it later. 2012/5/3 Yan Ji yanji...@gmail.com: Hi all, As I recommend before, Testlink is an open source tool which used for test management, such as test project management, test specification management, test plan management, etc… If we adopt this tool in Aoo project, I'm sure we will gain lots of benefit. I built a virtual machine which host a TestLink demo. Is there any place I can put it to so everybody can practice. The file(.vdi) size is about 6.17 GB. Who can help? Thanks Best Regards, Yan Ji -- Best Regards From aliu...@gmail.com
Re: how to access aoo issue website?
fail to ping issues.apache.org (140.211.11.121) 2012/5/4 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:03 PM, lifeng wang phoenix.wan...@gmail.com wrote: Still can't connect to Bugzilla today in Beijing 2012/5/3 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org Works fine for me right now. Can you ping issues.apache.org (140.211.11.121) ? -Rob On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: Are you not able to login to Bugzilla? Did you try resetting your password? Note that the BugZilla home page now has wrong instructions: -- Please Note: All users with accounts on the legacy OpenOffice.org tracker must reset their passwords to gain access to their old accounts. To reset your password, click on the Forgot Password link in the header or footer. [so far, instruction still apply] Note: If your user name when the service was hosted at Oracle was myuser, then your login for the migrated Bugzilla instance will be myu...@openoffice.org and e-mail to this address will redirect to the e-mail address associated with your Oracle/OpenOffice.org account pre-migration to the ASF. [this part is outdated: users should just write their full e-mail address - the real one, not the @openoffice.org alias; at least other users reported that this worked for them; I can't test since I migrated my account months ago] OK. I updated the text: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ Is that correct? Is there a clearer way to state this? -Rob -- Regards, Andrea.
Re: how to access aoo issue website?
Unable to reach 140.211.11.121 from yesterday. I guess it's a network issue in Beijing, maybe the whole China. Weird. I can ping successfully other 140.211.11.* IP. 2012/5/4 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org: On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:03 PM, lifeng wang phoenix.wan...@gmail.com wrote: Still can't connect to Bugzilla today in Beijing 2012/5/3 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org Works fine for me right now. Can you ping issues.apache.org (140.211.11.121) ? -Rob On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: Are you not able to login to Bugzilla? Did you try resetting your password? Note that the BugZilla home page now has wrong instructions: -- Please Note: All users with accounts on the legacy OpenOffice.org tracker must reset their passwords to gain access to their old accounts. To reset your password, click on the Forgot Password link in the header or footer. [so far, instruction still apply] Note: If your user name when the service was hosted at Oracle was myuser, then your login for the migrated Bugzilla instance will be myu...@openoffice.org and e-mail to this address will redirect to the e-mail address associated with your Oracle/OpenOffice.org account pre-migration to the ASF. [this part is outdated: users should just write their full e-mail address - the real one, not the @openoffice.org alias; at least other users reported that this worked for them; I can't test since I migrated my account months ago] OK. I updated the text: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ Is that correct? Is there a clearer way to state this? -Rob -- Regards, Andrea. -- Best Regards From aliu...@gmail.com
Re: how to access aoo issue website?
Li Feng, Network problem, please use proxy. Best regards, Lily 2012/5/4 lifeng wang phoenix.wan...@gmail.com Still can't connect to Bugzilla today in Beijing 2012/5/3 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: Are you not able to login to Bugzilla? Did you try resetting your password? Note that the BugZilla home page now has wrong instructions: -- Please Note: All users with accounts on the legacy OpenOffice.org tracker must reset their passwords to gain access to their old accounts. To reset your password, click on the Forgot Password link in the header or footer. [so far, instruction still apply] Note: If your user name when the service was hosted at Oracle was myuser, then your login for the migrated Bugzilla instance will be myu...@openoffice.org and e-mail to this address will redirect to the e-mail address associated with your Oracle/OpenOffice.org account pre-migration to the ASF. [this part is outdated: users should just write their full e-mail address - the real one, not the @openoffice.org alias; at least other users reported that this worked for them; I can't test since I migrated my account months ago] OK. I updated the text: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ Is that correct? Is there a clearer way to state this? -Rob -- Regards, Andrea.
Re: how to access aoo issue website?
From what IP address are you trying to connect? If you send it to me privately I'll check our firewall rules- if its not there I'm afraid there's little else we can do. From: lifeng wang phoenix.wan...@gmail.com To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 10:20 PM Subject: Re: how to access aoo issue website? fail to ping issues.apache.org (140.211.11.121) 2012/5/4 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:03 PM, lifeng wang phoenix.wan...@gmail.com wrote: Still can't connect to Bugzilla today in Beijing 2012/5/3 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org Works fine for me right now. Can you ping issues.apache.org (140.211.11.121) ? -Rob On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: Are you not able to login to Bugzilla? Did you try resetting your password? Note that the BugZilla home page now has wrong instructions: -- Please Note: All users with accounts on the legacy OpenOffice.org tracker must reset their passwords to gain access to their old accounts. To reset your password, click on the Forgot Password link in the header or footer. [so far, instruction still apply] Note: If your user name when the service was hosted at Oracle was myuser, then your login for the migrated Bugzilla instance will be myu...@openoffice.org and e-mail to this address will redirect to the e-mail address associated with your Oracle/OpenOffice.org account pre-migration to the ASF. [this part is outdated: users should just write their full e-mail address - the real one, not the @openoffice.org alias; at least other users reported that this worked for them; I can't test since I migrated my account months ago] OK. I updated the text: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ Is that correct? Is there a clearer way to state this? -Rob -- Regards, Andrea.
Re: how to access aoo issue website?
I'm located in Beijing Haidian district. I can reach issues.apache.org both from my employers office (AFAIK hosted by China Unicom) and with my phone (China Mobile), without any trick. Peter On 5/4/2012 10:23 AM, Zhe Liu wrote: Unable to reach 140.211.11.121 from yesterday. I guess it's a network issue in Beijing, maybe the whole China. Weird. I can ping successfully other 140.211.11.* IP. 2012/5/4 Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org: On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:03 PM, lifeng wangphoenix.wan...@gmail.com wrote: Still can't connect to Bugzilla today in Beijing 2012/5/3 Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org Works fine for me right now. Can you ping issues.apache.org (140.211.11.121) ? -Rob On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Andrea Pescettipesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: Are you not able to login to Bugzilla? Did you try resetting your password? Note that the BugZilla home page now has wrong instructions: -- Please Note: All users with accounts on the legacy OpenOffice.org tracker must reset their passwords to gain access to their old accounts. To reset your password, click on the Forgot Password link in the header or footer. [so far, instruction still apply] Note: If your user name when the service was hosted at Oracle was myuser, then your login for the migrated Bugzilla instance will be myu...@openoffice.org and e-mail to this address will redirect to the e-mail address associated with your Oracle/OpenOffice.org account pre-migration to the ASF. [this part is outdated: users should just write their full e-mail address - the real one, not the @openoffice.org alias; at least other users reported that this worked for them; I can't test since I migrated my account months ago] OK. I updated the text: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ Is that correct? Is there a clearer way to state this? -Rob -- Regards, Andrea.
Re: [USER EXPERIENCE DESIGN] - Story tellers wanted
Hello everyone, Thanks for your interest in this approach. I will captures some thoughts on how we might consider proceeding and share with the group shortly. In the interim, I encourage you to think about the protagonist in our story: the AOO users. Who are they? What do they desire? What is important to them? How does AOO integrate into their lives? Regards, Kevin * * On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:04 AM, Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.comwrote: Hi. 2012/5/2 Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com Do you like to write and tell stories? Do you want to bring an Apple-like approach to designing our products? AOO UX could use your support. To better understand how people integrate our product into their lives, the UX sub-community is looking to author a series of stories and usage scenarios. The goal is to understand how people use AOO, and how they want it to compliment their physical and virtual realities. Thoughts? Interested? Good idea ! I have interested in writer aoo in pt-br, for future. ;) Best, Albino
RE: Propose testlink
+1 This tool can help us manager the testcase easily, also in check the result. Thanks, Wei Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 10:12:51 +0800 Subject: Re: Propose testlink From: phoenix.wan...@gmail.com To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org +1 support to use Testlink to manage test cases and test tasks 2012/5/4 Zhe Liu aliu...@gmail.com +1 Since more and more professional QAs joined our project, I think test case management system is a better choice than WIKI. If general users feel it's too complex, we can customized it later. 2012/5/3 Yan Ji yanji...@gmail.com: Hi all, As I recommend before, Testlink is an open source tool which used for test management, such as test project management, test specification management, test plan management, etc… If we adopt this tool in Aoo project, I'm sure we will gain lots of benefit. I built a virtual machine which host a TestLink demo. Is there any place I can put it to so everybody can practice. The file(.vdi) size is about 6.17 GB. Who can help? Thanks Best Regards, Yan Ji -- Best Regards From aliu...@gmail.com
Re: Propose testlink
Please provide some information about TestLink. What are the requirements? Is it an open source tool? What is the license? Is there a website with information? Regards, Dave On May 3, 2012, at 7:51 PM, YangTerry wrote: +1 This tool can help us manager the testcase easily, also in check the result. Thanks, Wei Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 10:12:51 +0800 Subject: Re: Propose testlink From: phoenix.wan...@gmail.com To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org +1 support to use Testlink to manage test cases and test tasks 2012/5/4 Zhe Liu aliu...@gmail.com +1 Since more and more professional QAs joined our project, I think test case management system is a better choice than WIKI. If general users feel it's too complex, we can customized it later. 2012/5/3 Yan Ji yanji...@gmail.com: Hi all, As I recommend before, Testlink is an open source tool which used for test management, such as test project management, test specification management, test plan management, etc… If we adopt this tool in Aoo project, I'm sure we will gain lots of benefit. I built a virtual machine which host a TestLink demo. Is there any place I can put it to so everybody can practice. The file(.vdi) size is about 6.17 GB. Who can help? Thanks Best Regards, Yan Ji -- Best Regards From aliu...@gmail.com
Re: Introduce
Hi Liu Tao, nice to meet you here again and great to see that CS2C is joining in. :-) Peter On 5/4/2012 10:56 AM, taotao.liu wrote: Hello all, I am LiuTao, glad to meet you in AOO here. I'm from China Standard Software Co.,Ltd. located in Beijing Haidian district. Our team will come soon and join you. Hopefully we can do sth. regards, LiuTao 2012-05-04 China Standard Software Co., Ltd. LiuTao China Phone: (+86) 010-51659955-8106 http://www.cs2c.com.cn http://modularization.openoffice.org mailto:taotao@cs2c.com.cn
Re: Propose testlink
Well, we have used wiki for AOO 3.4 to record test cases and test results. They are useful when test cases are not with a huge volume. For further productive test cases management, one easy to use and maintenance tool is must. I give +1 here. But we need resolve the problem like: - Does Apache host the server? - Any legal issue? Also we need test cases tool admin, would you like take this role? Best regards, Lily 2012/5/3 Yan Ji yanji...@gmail.com Hi all, As I recommend before, Testlink is an open source tool which used for test management, such as test project management, test specification management, test plan management, etc… If we adopt this tool in Aoo project, I'm sure we will gain lots of benefit. I built a virtual machine which host a TestLink demo. Is there any place I can put it to so everybody can practice. The file(.vdi) size is about 6.17 GB. Who can help? Thanks Best Regards, Yan Ji
Re: Introduce
Welcome LiuTao. Looking forward to your participation and insight into unique needs of the Chinese user. For information on areas where you and your team can have an impact, check out: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Help+Wanted. Regards, Kevin On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:56 AM, taotao.liu taotao@cs2c.com.cn wrote: Hello all, I am LiuTao, glad to meet you in AOO here. I'm from China Standard Software Co.,Ltd. located in Beijing Haidian district. Our team will come soon and join you. Hopefully we can do sth. regards, LiuTao 2012-05-04 China Standard Software Co., Ltd. LiuTao China Phone: (+86) 010-51659955-8106 http://www.cs2c.com.cn http://modularization.openoffice.org mailto:taotao@cs2c.com.cn
Re: [USER EXPERIENCE DESIGN] - Story tellers wanted
Kevin I like this idea a lot and am interested in being involved in this approach if possible. The few months I have read mail posts between the developers in this project have been such an eye opener. I have never seen a group of peers work so beautifully together. I get the sense of 'family' - only better. I look forward to hearing more of your ideas! Nancy Nancy Web Design Free 24 hour pass to lynda.com. Video courses on SEO, CMS, Design and Software Courses From: Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [USER EXPERIENCE DESIGN] - Story tellers wanted Hello everyone, Thanks for your interest in this approach. I will captures some thoughts on how we might consider proceeding and share with the group shortly. In the interim, I encourage you to think about the protagonist in our story: the AOO users. Who are they? What do they desire? What is important to them? How does AOO integrate into their lives? Regards, Kevin * * On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:04 AM, Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.comwrote: Hi. 2012/5/2 Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com Do you like to write and tell stories? Do you want to bring an Apple-like approach to designing our products? AOO UX could use your support. To better understand how people integrate our product into their lives, the UX sub-community is looking to author a series of stories and usage scenarios. The goal is to understand how people use AOO, and how they want it to compliment their physical and virtual realities. Thoughts? Interested? Good idea ! I have interested in writer aoo in pt-br, for future. ;) Best, Albino
Re: Re: Introduce
Nice to meet you here again Peter ;-) Hi Liu Tao, nice to meet you here again and great to see that CS2C is joining in. :-) Peter On 5/4/2012 10:56 AM, taotao.liu wrote:
hi
hi,all I am working for the company,China Standard Software Co., Ltd now, Untill now my work mainly covers the SD modules,including the doucument of ppt asynchronism loading and fixing bugs of impress I have several years of experiences in this domain ,and have a strong willing to participate AOOo community. Best Regards, 2012-05-04 China Standard Software Co., Ltd. Shanchuan Xu hone: (+86) 010-51659955-8110
Re: I want to stay informed about OpenOffice option for the home page?
On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 22:35 +0200, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 05/03/2012 09:48 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On 05/03/2012 11:29 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/03/2012 09:43 AM, Rob Weir wrote: One thing we don't have any more is that registration dialog from OpenOffice.org. Does anyone recall what that used to do? For example, did it sign users up for the annou...@openoffice.org mailing list? I don't recall the registration doing this... If so, since that is gone, we've lost the primary way for users to say that they want to get occasional updates from us. This reduces our opportunity to engage with our users. I wonder if it would be worth adding to the home page, a new option: I want to stay informed about OpenOffice? That could go to a page where we give information on the announce list, the project blog, etc. It would take the place of the old registration system. -Rob I think this is definitely worthwhile! Either as a permanent news item, or something similar -- a new tab, a new main menu option. If we had it as a new home page option we would need an icon, similar size and color palette as the others. But an icon of what? well...maybe one of more artistic members could weigh in on this one... I don't have any ideas... I think that a blackboard or megaphone could fit as icon. Some examples (don't look to close to content and size) http://www.thegraphicmac.com/wp-content/uploads/aps_facebook-notify-icon.jpg http://www.trueswitch.com/images/notify_icon_big.gif http://ranchero.com/images/nnw3.2AppIcon-512.png http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/snake3d/snake3d/snake3d00038/11270762-megaphone-sale-announcement-loudspeaker-news-communication-icon-golden-red-bullhorn-message-symbol-a.jpg Hi Marcus Nice, looked those over - took some inspiration from that and worked up a graphic, thinking of course that this is going to a keep_in_touch type screen - Is that right, what the idea was now. Anyway - here is a png of the idea, I've again used the Oo.o 3 series branding element, the wire wave - altered that just a tad with a change form white to the current logo blue. http://lo-portal.us/aoo/temp/g6897.png What do you think? //drew
[User Experience] - What is the status of the user experience project?
Hello All, Does anyone have an update on the status of the AOO user experience project? See http://www.openoffice.org/ux/ for current information. Are Frank Leohmann and Christoph Noack still involved? How might we validate the names of UX community as found on: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User_Experience/Community? Thoughts? Regards, Kevin
Re: Introduce
Hello, Liu Tao! On 2012-05-03, at 22:56 , taotao.liu wrote: Hello all, I am LiuTao, glad to meet you in AOO here. I'm from China Standard Software Co.,Ltd. located in Beijing Haidian district. Our team will come soon and join you. Hopefully we can do sth. I'm delighted to see you and your colleague here on this list willing to contribute to Apache OpenOffice. I'm not sure everyone is familiar with your company's past work but if you would care to inform the list, I'd appreciate it. Please let me and the others here know how we can help you and get you and your team going. This community is very friendly, very supportive, and all that we do is transparent and accountable to the community, according to our bylaws. best, Louis PS this, like most other Apache lists, is public. Therefore I'd generally recommend against posting your telephone number and other data Spammers love. regards, LiuTao 2012-05-04 China Standard Software Co., Ltd. LiuTao China Phone: (+86) 010-51659955-8106 http://www.cs2c.com.cn http://modularization.openoffice.org mailto:taotao@cs2c.com.cn
Re: hi
Hello Xu Shanchuan! (BTW, would you be able to use a Roman alphabet name? Not all of us can decipher the ideograms.) On 2012-05-03, at 23:35 , 许山川 wrote: hi,all I am working for the company,China Standard Software Co., Ltd now, Untill now my work mainly covers the SD modules,including the doucument of ppt asynchronism loading and fixing bugs of impress I have several years of experiences in this domain ,and have a strong willing to participate AOOo community. Best Regards, I'm as delighted to greet you as I was your colleague :-) A lot has to be done, and I am sure we will appreciate your experience in this and your wisdom! And I also see your company's great presence here as vital to growing the Beijing and even Chinese open source and OpenOffice community and market. Let me and the rest of us on this list know how we can help you and further ease your way into this very friendly, very global, very sleepless community :-) Oh, as I mentioned to your colleague, you may want to refrain from including your Spam-friendly personal information. This list is public, and most Apache lists are that way, too. Cheers, Louis 2012-05-04 China Standard Software Co., Ltd. Shanchuan Xu hone: (+86) 010-51659955-8110
Re: hi
Welcome! Glad to see more and more developers in. Helen 2012/5/4 许山川 shanchuan...@cs2c.com.cn ** hi,all I am working for the company,China Standard Software Co., Ltd now, Untill now my work mainly covers the SD modules,including the doucument of ppt asynchronism loading and fixing bugs of impress I have several years of experiences in this domain ,and have a strong willing to participate AOOo community. Best Regards, 2012-05-04 -- China Standard Software Co., Ltd. Shanchuan Xu hone: (+86) 010-51659955-8110
Re: Introduce
Wonderful...with more developers in, we can do more in the next release. 2012/5/4 taotao.liu taotao@cs2c.com.cn Hello all, I am LiuTao, glad to meet you in AOO here. I'm from China Standard Software Co.,Ltd. located in Beijing Haidian district. Our team will come soon and join you. Hopefully we can do sth. regards, LiuTao 2012-05-04 China Standard Software Co., Ltd. LiuTao China Phone: (+86) 010-51659955-8106 http://www.cs2c.com.cn http://modularization.openoffice.org mailto:taotao@cs2c.com.cn
Re: how to access aoo issue website?
Hi Joe, After investigation, I found our team used a robot to collect the attached documents from bugzilla for testing AOO. That leads our IP to be blocked. IP: 202.108.130.138 Could you tell us what is the detail firewall rule? We can change our the schedule and strategy to avoid the problem. Thanks. 2012/5/4 Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com: From what IP address are you trying to connect? If you send it to me privately I'll check our firewall rules- if its not there I'm afraid there's little else we can do. From: lifeng wang phoenix.wan...@gmail.com To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 10:20 PM Subject: Re: how to access aoo issue website? fail to ping issues.apache.org (140.211.11.121) 2012/5/4 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:03 PM, lifeng wang phoenix.wan...@gmail.com wrote: Still can't connect to Bugzilla today in Beijing 2012/5/3 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org Works fine for me right now. Can you ping issues.apache.org (140.211.11.121) ? -Rob On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: Are you not able to login to Bugzilla? Did you try resetting your password? Note that the BugZilla home page now has wrong instructions: -- Please Note: All users with accounts on the legacy OpenOffice.org tracker must reset their passwords to gain access to their old accounts. To reset your password, click on the Forgot Password link in the header or footer. [so far, instruction still apply] Note: If your user name when the service was hosted at Oracle was myuser, then your login for the migrated Bugzilla instance will be myu...@openoffice.org and e-mail to this address will redirect to the e-mail address associated with your Oracle/OpenOffice.org account pre-migration to the ASF. [this part is outdated: users should just write their full e-mail address - the real one, not the @openoffice.org alias; at least other users reported that this worked for them; I can't test since I migrated my account months ago] OK. I updated the text: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ Is that correct? Is there a clearer way to state this? -Rob -- Regards, Andrea. -- Best Regards From aliu...@gmail.com