Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Am 05/04/2012 02:31 AM, schrieb Albino Biasutti Neto: Hi. 2012/5/3 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de I've added it as candidate to this Wikipage: https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** AOO+3.4.1+Feature+Planninghttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4.1+Feature+Planning Marcus One question?! The Risto who will coordinate all translations (as a scale) of the next version? That is, a general coordinator of the languages and then. It would be a good idea, if he make available. IMHO Risto Jääskeläinen will take care for Finnish language only and Juergen Schmidt to coordinate all languages for the next release. Marcus
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
On 02.05.2012 19:27, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 5/2/12 6:04 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: On 2 May 2012 16:51, Pedro Giffunip...@apache.org wrote: ... I have no idea if it's common for Podlings to have a successful vote in their first attempt but I have to say this result highlights the determination and impecable work done by the group. +1 (it is not common) and it was a little bit surprising ;-) But i think we have listened and have incorporate feedback early and careful. And we will continue to improve our work here as a healthy project and a vibrant community. My special role as a release manger was only a tiny piece (and nothing special) of the overall work we as a *community* have achieved with this first release. I could list many names and I am sure I would forget some. So I would like to say thank you to all who helped in the last month to bring our first release on the road. I will list only some key areas where we have achieved a lot: - migration of the website, the wiki, the user forum, the extensions and template repository, bugzilla - setting up new internal wiki at Apache, new pootle server, new project web page - IP cleanup of the code - setting up build bots - preparing regular dev snapshots and final RC - great QA work - archiving older releases and not yet integrated cws - establishing a powerful mirror network with new partners - work on documentation to reflect the new name and latest changes - ... The release is only the successful crowning end of a huge huge effort and a lot of work to migrate everything from Oracle infra-structure to Apache and partners. We all know that it was not only the source code that was migrated/moved but much more and especially the way how we improved over time our collaboration on different tasks makes me very proud and I am really looking forward to continue this work with all of you. We have strong characters in the project with different communication styles but I think we should always look twice what individuals are really doing here in the project and for the project before we adjudicate on somebody. And about statements like the major part of the community have moved to... can I only laugh out loud. I felt myself always as part of the OOo community and I never have moved to somewhere else ;-) (sorry I couldn't resist) Thanks to all of you I can not say that any better, so many thanks to everybody involved for coding, testing, translating, documenting or giving general advice. Especially I would like to thank Jürgen for his hard work to coordinate all and everything. I would like to share a picture of him in his role as master of the poodle server (~123kb): http://http://people.apache.org/~af/poodle1024.jpg Best regards, Andre
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Here is the correct link http://people.apache.org/~af/poodle1024.jpg
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Hi, On 03.05.2012 10:24, Andre Fischer wrote: On 02.05.2012 19:27, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 5/2/12 6:04 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: On 2 May 2012 16:51, Pedro Giffunip...@apache.org wrote: ... I have no idea if it's common for Podlings to have a successful vote in their first attempt but I have to say this result highlights the determination and impecable work done by the group. +1 (it is not common) and it was a little bit surprising ;-) But i think we have listened and have incorporate feedback early and careful. And we will continue to improve our work here as a healthy project and a vibrant community. My special role as a release manger was only a tiny piece (and nothing special) of the overall work we as a *community* have achieved with this first release. I could list many names and I am sure I would forget some. So I would like to say thank you to all who helped in the last month to bring our first release on the road. I will list only some key areas where we have achieved a lot: - migration of the website, the wiki, the user forum, the extensions and template repository, bugzilla - setting up new internal wiki at Apache, new pootle server, new project web page - IP cleanup of the code - setting up build bots - preparing regular dev snapshots and final RC - great QA work - archiving older releases and not yet integrated cws - establishing a powerful mirror network with new partners - work on documentation to reflect the new name and latest changes - ... The release is only the successful crowning end of a huge huge effort and a lot of work to migrate everything from Oracle infra-structure to Apache and partners. We all know that it was not only the source code that was migrated/moved but much more and especially the way how we improved over time our collaboration on different tasks makes me very proud and I am really looking forward to continue this work with all of you. We have strong characters in the project with different communication styles but I think we should always look twice what individuals are really doing here in the project and for the project before we adjudicate on somebody. And about statements like the major part of the community have moved to... can I only laugh out loud. I felt myself always as part of the OOo community and I never have moved to somewhere else ;-) (sorry I couldn't resist) Thanks to all of you I can not say that any better, so many thanks to everybody involved for coding, testing, translating, documenting or giving general advice. Especially I would like to thank Jürgen for his hard work to coordinate all and everything. I would like to share a picture of him in his role as master of the poodle server (~123kb): http://http://people.apache.org/~af/poodle1024.jpg It was an honour to see how this picture was taken. It is an honour to be part of this great open-source community. Best regards, Oliver.
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
On 05/03/2012 01:27 AM, Andre Fischer wrote: Here is the correct link http://people.apache.org/~af/poodle1024.jpg nice to see he gets out to have some fun every once in a while! :) -- MzK Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you And life has a funny way of helping you out Helping you out. -- Ironic, Alanis Morissette
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Am 03.05.2012 04:49, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: Congratulations to all and thanks to Juergen, too. But the words are not enough; what is, is use. +1 Unfortunately, we can not use AOO in our productive environment because of this silly bug: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118977 Many of our every day documents are input forms. Most of the forms are unusable in page layout.
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Am 05/03/2012 09:57 PM, schrieb Andreas Säger: Am 03.05.2012 04:49, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: Congratulations to all and thanks to Juergen, too. But the words are not enough; what is, is use. +1 Unfortunately, we can not use AOO in our productive environment because of this silly bug: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118977 Many of our every day documents are input forms. Most of the forms are unusable in page layout. I've added it as candidate to this Wikipage: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4.1+Feature+Planning Marcus
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Hi. 2012/5/3 Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de I've added it as candidate to this Wikipage: https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** AOO+3.4.1+Feature+Planninghttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4.1+Feature+Planning Marcus One question?! The Risto who will coordinate all translations (as a scale) of the next version? That is, a general coordinator of the languages and then. It would be a good idea, if he make available. Thanks, Albino
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Juergen et al, (*and I mean everyone*!), This is so amazing. My 'hats', my 'Apache Hat', 'my IBM Hat', are off to you guys. If I may be so direct as to say, we have come together in a new way, fashioning the future from the past. This may sound simple, but it is not. I think we can agree on this. This is just the beginning. We have very many steep hills to climb and more trust to build and more arguments to wage. That's the norm, right? Our users depend on us now, we must not let them down, while we invite them to join and work with us at the same time. Onwards! /don On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 1:46 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.comwrote: The vote period for releasing Apache OpenOffice (incubator) RC1 has concluded. The ballot passed. VOTE TALLY +1: IPMC members: +1 Marvin Humphrey +1 Dave Fisher +1 Jim Jagielski For reference see also the vote thread on ooo-dev http://mail-archives.apache.**org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-** dev/201204.mbox/%3C4F9A452A.**9000707%40googlemail.com%3Ehttp://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201204.mbox/%3C4F9A452A.9000707%40googlemail.com%3E Thank you for your support Juergen
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Congratulations! and thanks for all people who worked very hard/helped on this great delivery! It's a success for this community, and a beginning of our excitement in Apache. When will we have 3.4 release formally announced/shared with others? Are there any more work left before we announce it? Helen 2012/5/2 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com The vote period for releasing Apache OpenOffice (incubator) RC1 has concluded. The ballot passed. VOTE TALLY +1: IPMC members: +1 Marvin Humphrey +1 Dave Fisher +1 Jim Jagielski For reference see also the vote thread on ooo-dev http://mail-archives.apache.**org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-** dev/201204.mbox/%3C4F9A452A.**9000707%40googlemail.com%3Ehttp://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201204.mbox/%3C4F9A452A.9000707%40googlemail.com%3E Thank you for your support Juergen
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Juergen, Good news to all of us! When the publish will be finished? I'd like to try the download testing with official build published. Best regards, Lily 2012/5/2 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com The vote period for releasing Apache OpenOffice (incubator) RC1 has concluded. The ballot passed. VOTE TALLY +1: IPMC members: +1 Marvin Humphrey +1 Dave Fisher +1 Jim Jagielski For reference see also the vote thread on ooo-dev http://mail-archives.apache.**org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-** dev/201204.mbox/%3C4F9A452A.**9000707%40googlemail.com%3Ehttp://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201204.mbox/%3C4F9A452A.9000707%40googlemail.com%3E Thank you for your support Juergen
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Nice work team. On May 2, 2012, at 5:03 PM, Xia Zhao lilyzh...@gmail.com wrote: Juergen, Good news to all of us! When the publish will be finished? I'd like to try the download testing with official build published. Best regards, Lily 2012/5/2 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com The vote period for releasing Apache OpenOffice (incubator) RC1 has concluded. The ballot passed. VOTE TALLY +1: IPMC members: +1 Marvin Humphrey +1 Dave Fisher +1 Jim Jagielski For reference see also the vote thread on ooo-dev http://mail-archives.apache.**org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-** dev/201204.mbox/%3C4F9A452A.**9000707%40googlemail.com%3Ehttp://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201204.mbox/%3C4F9A452A.9000707%40googlemail.com%3E Thank you for your support Juergen
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Hi. 2012/5/2 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com The vote period for releasing Apache OpenOffice (incubator) RC1 has concluded. The ballot passed. VOTE TALLY +1: IPMC members: +1 Marvin Humphrey +1 Dave Fisher +1 Jim Jagielski For reference see also the vote thread on ooo-dev http://mail-archives.apache.**org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-** dev/201204.mbox/%3C4F9A452A.**9000707%40googlemail.com%3Ehttp://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201204.mbox/%3C4F9A452A.9000707%40googlemail.com%3E Thank you for your support Juergen Congratulation! :) Best, Albino @bino28
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
On 5/2/12 11:03 AM, Xia Zhao wrote: Juergen, Good news to all of us! When the publish will be finished? I'd like to try the download testing with official build published. I will keep you informed Juergen Best regards, Lily 2012/5/2 Jürgen Schmidtjogischm...@googlemail.com The vote period for releasing Apache OpenOffice (incubator) RC1 has concluded. The ballot passed. VOTE TALLY +1: IPMC members: +1 Marvin Humphrey +1 Dave Fisher +1 Jim Jagielski For reference see also the vote thread on ooo-dev http://mail-archives.apache.**org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-** dev/201204.mbox/%3C4F9A452A.**9000707%40googlemail.com%3Ehttp://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201204.mbox/%3C4F9A452A.9000707%40googlemail.com%3E Thank you for your support Juergen
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Dear Jürgen, I believe I had voted a +1 at Apr 23th but not counted, thought the result will still be the same. Maybe it only count on ooo-dev list? On 2012/05/02 19:37, Jürgen Schmidt said: On 5/2/12 11:03 AM, Xia Zhao wrote: Juergen, Good news to all of us! When the publish will be finished? I'd like to try the download testing with official build published. I will keep you informed Juergen Best regards, Lily 2012/5/2 Jürgen Schmidtjogischm...@googlemail.com The vote period for releasing Apache OpenOffice (incubator) RC1 has concluded. The ballot passed. VOTE TALLY +1: IPMC members: +1 Marvin Humphrey +1 Dave Fisher +1 Jim Jagielski For reference see also the vote thread on ooo-dev http://mail-archives.apache.**org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-** dev/201204.mbox/%3C4F9A452A.**9000707%40googlemail.com%3Ehttp://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201204.mbox/%3C4F9A452A.9000707%40googlemail.com%3E Thank you for your support Juergen -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ Apache OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
On 5/2/12 3:57 PM, imacat wrote: Dear Jürgen, I believe I had voted a +1 at Apr 23th but not counted, thought the result will still be the same. Maybe it only count on ooo-dev list? exactly only the votes on ooo-dev were counted. The next time I will post it on ooo-dev only to avoid confusion. But we all learn at the moment how things at Apache work and we will improve over time. Juergen On 2012/05/02 19:37, Jürgen Schmidt said: On 5/2/12 11:03 AM, Xia Zhao wrote: Juergen, Good news to all of us! When the publish will be finished? I'd like to try the download testing with official build published. I will keep you informed Juergen Best regards, Lily 2012/5/2 Jürgen Schmidtjogischm...@googlemail.com The vote period for releasing Apache OpenOffice (incubator) RC1 has concluded. The ballot passed. VOTE TALLY +1: IPMC members: +1 Marvin Humphrey +1 Dave Fisher +1 Jim Jagielski For reference see also the vote thread on ooo-dev http://mail-archives.apache.**org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-** dev/201204.mbox/%3C4F9A452A.**9000707%40googlemail.com%3Ehttp://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201204.mbox/%3C4F9A452A.9000707%40googlemail.com%3E Thank you for your support Juergen
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 1:46 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com wrote: The vote period for releasing Apache OpenOffice (incubator) RC1 has concluded. The ballot passed. VOTE TALLY +1: IPMC members: +1 Marvin Humphrey +1 Dave Fisher +1 Jim Jagielski For reference see also the vote thread on ooo-dev http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201204.mbox/%3C4F9A452A.9000707%40googlemail.com%3E Thank you for your support Yeah! We have an AOO 3.4 Release. Many, many people on this project have put a lot of work into this release, and they all are owed a round of thanks, but I'd like to make special note of the contribution that Juergen has made as Release Manager for our first Apache release. This was a huge learning task, to understand the various Apache procedures and rules related to podling releases, and to take the lead at putting these procedures into action in this project. Good work, Juergen, and congratulations on the AOO 3.4 release! -Rob Juergen
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 1:46 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com wrote: The vote period for releasing Apache OpenOffice (incubator) RC1 has concluded. The ballot passed. VOTE TALLY +1: IPMC members: +1 Marvin Humphrey +1 Dave Fisher +1 Jim Jagielski For reference see also the vote thread on ooo-dev http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201204.mbox/%3C4F9A452A.9000707%40googlemail.com%3E Thank you for your support Yeah! We have an AOO 3.4 Release. Many, many people on this project have put a lot of work into this release, and they all are owed a round of thanks, but I'd like to make special note of the contribution that Juergen has made as Release Manager for our first Apache release. +1(!) This was a huge learning task, to understand the various Apache procedures and rules related to podling releases, and to take the lead at putting these procedures into action in this project. Good work, Juergen, and congratulations on the AOO 3.4 release! -Rob Juergen
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
On 05/02/12 00:46, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: The vote period for releasing Apache OpenOffice (incubator) RC1 has concluded. The ballot passed. VOTE TALLY +1: IPMC members: +1 Marvin Humphrey +1 Dave Fisher +1 Jim Jagielski For reference see also the vote thread on ooo-dev http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201204.mbox/%3C4F9A452A.9000707%40googlemail.com%3E Thank you for your support Juergen I have no idea if it's common for Podlings to have a successful vote in their first attempt but I have to say this result highlights the determination and impecable work done by the group. Special thanks to Juergen and all the people responsible for the last mile efforts. It was really a huge effort and I am glad to have participated, albeit minimally, in this release. Pedro.
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
On 2 May 2012 16:51, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: ... I have no idea if it's common for Podlings to have a successful vote in their first attempt but I have to say this result highlights the determination and impecable work done by the group. +1 (it is not common) Ross -- Ross Gardler (@rgardler) Programme Leader (Open Development) OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
RE: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Yes, I think the entire effort here is extraordinary in the light of the struggles and stumbling-around that many podlings go through. My congratulations as well. -Original Message- From: Ross Gardler [mailto:rgard...@opendirective.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 09:05 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1 On 2 May 2012 16:51, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: ... I have no idea if it's common for Podlings to have a successful vote in their first attempt but I have to say this result highlights the determination and impecable work done by the group. +1 (it is not common) Ross -- Ross Gardler (@rgardler) Programme Leader (Open Development) OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
On 2012/05/03 00:04, Ross Gardler said: On 2 May 2012 16:51, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: I have no idea if it's common for Podlings to have a successful vote in their first attempt but I have to say this result highlights the determination and impecable work done by the group. +1. And thanks to Jürgen and everyone for our hard work. -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ Apache OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
On May 2, 2012, at 9:04 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: On 2 May 2012 16:51, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: ... I have no idea if it's common for Podlings to have a successful vote in their first attempt but I have to say this result highlights the determination and impecable work done by the group. +1 (it is not common) Jürgen's preflight check was very important here! Marvin gave feedback, it was taken, and then we had the VOTEs! I'll be popping the cork on a bottle of bubbly to celebrate! But I think I'll wait until the announcement and the downloads are happening! Wo Hoo! Regards, Dave Ross -- Ross Gardler (@rgardler) Programme Leader (Open Development) OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
While we're all thrilled about this, I have to ask us to keep this information to ourselves until we formally announce next week. To prematurely announce this publicy will be unhelpful to our overall goals of managing the user experience for downloading and equally important the extent to which we can look forward to positive news coverage. That said, I am very excited and thrilled that we have achieved this milestone. Fanstastic! On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On May 2, 2012, at 9:04 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: On 2 May 2012 16:51, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: ... I have no idea if it's common for Podlings to have a successful vote in their first attempt but I have to say this result highlights the determination and impecable work done by the group. +1 (it is not common) Jürgen's preflight check was very important here! Marvin gave feedback, it was taken, and then we had the VOTEs! I'll be popping the cork on a bottle of bubbly to celebrate! But I think I'll wait until the announcement and the downloads are happening! Wo Hoo! Regards, Dave Ross -- Ross Gardler (@rgardler) Programme Leader (Open Development) OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
On 5/2/12 6:04 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: On 2 May 2012 16:51, Pedro Giffunip...@apache.org wrote: ... I have no idea if it's common for Podlings to have a successful vote in their first attempt but I have to say this result highlights the determination and impecable work done by the group. +1 (it is not common) and it was a little bit surprising ;-) But i think we have listened and have incorporate feedback early and careful. And we will continue to improve our work here as a healthy project and a vibrant community. My special role as a release manger was only a tiny piece (and nothing special) of the overall work we as a *community* have achieved with this first release. I could list many names and I am sure I would forget some. So I would like to say thank you to all who helped in the last month to bring our first release on the road. I will list only some key areas where we have achieved a lot: - migration of the website, the wiki, the user forum, the extensions and template repository, bugzilla - setting up new internal wiki at Apache, new pootle server, new project web page - IP cleanup of the code - setting up build bots - preparing regular dev snapshots and final RC - great QA work - archiving older releases and not yet integrated cws - establishing a powerful mirror network with new partners - work on documentation to reflect the new name and latest changes - ... The release is only the successful crowning end of a huge huge effort and a lot of work to migrate everything from Oracle infra-structure to Apache and partners. We all know that it was not only the source code that was migrated/moved but much more and especially the way how we improved over time our collaboration on different tasks makes me very proud and I am really looking forward to continue this work with all of you. We have strong characters in the project with different communication styles but I think we should always look twice what individuals are really doing here in the project and for the project before we adjudicate on somebody. And about statements like the major part of the community have moved to... can I only laugh out loud. I felt myself always as part of the OOo community and I never have moved to somewhere else ;-) (sorry I couldn't resist) Thanks to all of you Juergen
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
2012/5/2 Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com: YAY! Much thanks and applause to our release manager, Juergen and many others who made this a reality! Juergen did a incredible work studing all process and giving attention for all (i don't know from where he found time!). ;-) And congratulation for all that made possible more this step! Claudio
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Hi. 2012/5/2 Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com 2012/5/2 Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com: YAY! Much thanks and applause to our release manager, Juergen and many others who made this a reality! Juergen did a incredible work studing all process and giving attention for all (i don't know from where he found time!). ;-) And congratulation for all that made possible more this step! Claudio I am announcing in the social networks the @apacheoobr (created by me), with the link [1]. Need requires a formal annuncious on the blog AOO (when making the article, make translatios to pt-br). :) 1 - http://va.mu/UytJ Tks. Albino
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.comwrote: Hi. 2012/5/2 Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com 2012/5/2 Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com: YAY! Much thanks and applause to our release manager, Juergen and many others who made this a reality! Juergen did a incredible work studing all process and giving attention for all (i don't know from where he found time!). ;-) And congratulation for all that made possible more this step! Claudio I am announcing in the social networks the @apacheoobr (created by me), with the link [1]. OK, can you please coordinate with Claudio? Timing should be next Tuesday, May 8th. thanks Need requires a formal annuncious on the blog AOO (when making the article, make translatios to pt-br). :) 1 - http://va.mu/UytJ Tks. Albino
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Hi. 2012/5/2 Donald Harbison dpharbi...@gmail.com On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. 2012/5/2 Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com 2012/5/2 Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com: YAY! Much thanks and applause to our release manager, Juergen and many others who made this a reality! Juergen did a incredible work studing all process and giving attention for all (i don't know from where he found time!). ;-) And congratulation for all that made possible more this step! Claudio I am announcing in the social networks the @apacheoobr (created by me), with the link [1]. OK, can you please coordinate with Claudio? Timing should be next Tuesday, May 8th. thanks Yes, of course! :) Good date, May 8th. Best, Albino Need requires a formal annuncious on the blog AOO (when making the article, make translatios to pt-br). :) 1 - http://va.mu/UytJ Tks. Albino
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
On 05/02/2012 01:27 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 5/2/12 6:04 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: On 2 May 2012 16:51, Pedro Giffunip...@apache.org wrote: ... I have no idea if it's common for Podlings to have a successful vote in their first attempt but I have to say this result highlights the determination and impecable work done by the group. +1 (it is not common) and it was a little bit surprising ;-) But i think we have listened and have incorporate feedback early and careful. And we will continue to improve our work here as a healthy project and a vibrant community. My special role as a release manger was only a tiny piece (and nothing special) of the overall work we as a *community* have achieved with this first release. I could list many names and I am sure I would forget some. So I would like to say thank you to all who helped in the last month to bring our first release on the road. I will list only some key areas where we have achieved a lot: - migration of the website, the wiki, the user forum, the extensions and template repository, bugzilla - setting up new internal wiki at Apache, new pootle server, new project web page - IP cleanup of the code - setting up build bots - preparing regular dev snapshots and final RC - great QA work - archiving older releases and not yet integrated cws - establishing a powerful mirror network with new partners - work on documentation to reflect the new name and latest changes - ... The release is only the successful crowning end of a huge huge effort and a lot of work to migrate everything from Oracle infra-structure to Apache and partners. We all know that it was not only the source code that was migrated/moved but much more and especially the way how we improved over time our collaboration on different tasks makes me very proud and I am really looking forward to continue this work with all of you. We have strong characters in the project with different communication styles but I think we should always look twice what individuals are really doing here in the project and for the project before we adjudicate on somebody. And about statements like the major part of the community have moved to... can I only laugh out loud. I felt myself always as part of the OOo community and I never have moved to somewhere else ;-) (sorry I couldn't resist) Thanks to all of you Juergen Very well said !!! Thanks, and congratulations to everyone !! Best regards, Carl
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Congratulations to all and thanks to Juergen, too. But the words are not enough; what is, is use. To that end, I've used the Mac version (and also Linux, though less so) daily, and it has been great. I've also used it with Google Docs, with Microsoft Office 2008 for Mac, with Calligra (KOffice) and others. The application has not disappointed and also not crashed. (I wish I could say the same for other application I find myself using.) One other point. The release process for OOo was as efficient as it could be but also painful to many. I don't think that I've heard similar expressions of frustration and pain here. That's *great*. Cheers, Louis On 2 May 2012 01:46, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com wrote: The vote period for releasing Apache OpenOffice (incubator) RC1 has concluded. The ballot passed. VOTE TALLY +1: IPMC members: +1 Marvin Humphrey +1 Dave Fisher +1 Jim Jagielski For reference see also the vote thread on ooo-dev http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201204.mbox/%3C4F9A452A.9000707%40googlemail.com%3E Thank you for your support Juergen
[RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
The vote period for releasing Apache OpenOffice (incubator) RC1 has concluded. The ballot passed. VOTE TALLY +1: IPMC members: +1 Marvin Humphrey +1 Dave Fisher +1 Jim Jagielski For reference see also the vote thread on ooo-dev http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201204.mbox/%3C4F9A452A.9000707%40googlemail.com%3E Thank you for your support Juergen
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
congratulations! 2012/5/2 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com The vote period for releasing Apache OpenOffice (incubator) RC1 has concluded. The ballot passed. VOTE TALLY +1: IPMC members: +1 Marvin Humphrey +1 Dave Fisher +1 Jim Jagielski For reference see also the vote thread on ooo-dev http://mail-archives.apache.**org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-** dev/201204.mbox/%3C4F9A452A.**9000707%40googlemail.com%3Ehttp://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201204.mbox/%3C4F9A452A.9000707%40googlemail.com%3E Thank you for your support Juergen
[VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Hi, the preliminary vote result is identical with the final vote result. We had a further +1 (PPMC) vote on ooo-private but that can't be counted here. The ballot result was +34 including one IPMC member binding +1, 22 +1 votes fro PPMC members, one +1 from a committer, 8 +1 votes from community members and one PPMC abstentions (0). One -1 non-binding ballot were cast related the Finish translation that will be now not part of the release. Means we will not release a Finnish localized binary package. VOTE TALLY +1 Dave Fisher - IPMC (binding) 0 Dennis E. Hamilton (orcmid) +1 Pedro Giffuni - PPMC +1 Hagar Delest - PPMC +1 Ian Lynch - PPMC +1 Rob Weir - PPMC +1 RGB ES - PPMC +1 Zoltán Reizinger - PPMC +1 Donald Harbison - PPMC +1 Kay Schenk - PPMC +1 Armin Le Grand - PPMC +1 Herbert Duerr - PPMC +1 Carl Marcum - PPMC +1 Marcus Lange - PPMC +1 Regina Henschel - PPMC +1 Andrew Rist - PPMC +1 Andrea Pescetti - PPMC +1 Ariel Constenla-Haile - PPMC +1 Juergen Schmidt - PPMC +1 Oliver Rainer Wittmann - PPMC +1 Kazunaro Hirano - PPMC +1 Maho Nakato - PPMC +1 Andre Fischer - PPMC +1 Eric Bachard - PPMC +1 Raphael Bircher - PPMC +1 Drew Jensen - PPMC +1 Chritoph Jopp - PPMC +1 Yuri Dario -Committer +1 Larry Gusaas +1 Shen Feng Liu +1 Rory O'Farrell +1 Chao Huang +1 Albino Biasutti Neto +1 Peng Chen +1 Ying Sun +1 ZuoJun Chen -1 Risto Jääskeläinen, only for Finnish translation 35 Votes +1 1 Votes 0 1 Votes -1
Re: [VOTE][Preliminary RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
On 4/26/12 6:34 AM, Anton Meixome wrote: 2012/4/26 Jürgen Schmidtjogischm...@googlemail.com: The vote period to release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1 is still ongoing for 2 hours but this preliminary result gives a short overview. Because of longer traveling activities and to start the IPMC vote on the RC1 I have already counted the votes that we have received so far. The ballot result was +34 including one IPMC member binding +1, 22 +1 votes fro PPMC members, one +1 from a committer, 8 +1 votes from community members and one PPMC abstentions (0). One -1 non-binding ballot were cast related the Finish translation that will be now not part of the release. Means we will not release a Finnish localized binary package. VOTE TALLY +1 Dave Fisher - IPMC (binding) 0 Dennis E. Hamilton (orcmid) +1 Pedro Giffuni - PPMC +1 Hagar Delest - PPMC +1 Ian Lynch - PPMC +1 Rob Weir - PPMC +1 RGB ES - PPMC +1 Zoltán Reizinger - PPMC +1 Donald Harbison - PPMC +1 Kay Schenk - PPMC +1 Armin Le Grand - PPMC +1 Herbert Duerr - PPMC +1 Carl Marcum - PPMC +1 Marcus Lange - PPMC +1 Regina Henschel - PPMC +1 Andrew Rist - PPMC +1 Andrea Pescetti - PPMC +1 Ariel Constenla-Haile - PPMC +1 Juergen Schmidt - PPMC +1 Oliver Rainer Wittmann - PPMC +1 Kazunaro Hirano - PPMC +1 Maho Nakato - PPMC +1 Andre Fischer - PPMC +1 Eric Bachard - PPMC +1 Raphael Bircher - PPMC +1 Drew Jensen - PPMC +1 Chritoph Jopp - PPMC +1 Yuri Dario -Committer +1 Larry Gusaas +1 Shen Feng Liu +1 Rory O'Farrell +1 Chao Huang +1 Albino Biasutti Neto +1 Peng Chen +1 Ying Sun +1 ZuoJun Chen -1 Risto Jääskeläinen, only for Finnish translation 35 Votes +1 1 Votes 0 1 Votes -1 +1 From Galician group We performed basics tests on Windows 7 and Ubuntu 11.10 thanks for pointing this out and give us feedback, but I think I can only count votes from single individuals not from a group. Anyway thanks a lot for the feedback and good to know that the Galician group can support the RC1 as a final release. Juergen
Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Hi Jurgen, +1 Maho Nakato - PPMC - +1 Maho Nakata - PPMC thanks Nakata Maho From: Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com Subject: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1 Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:05:14 +0800 Hi, the preliminary vote result is identical with the final vote result. We had a further +1 (PPMC) vote on ooo-private but that can't be counted here. The ballot result was +34 including one IPMC member binding +1, 22 +1 votes fro PPMC members, one +1 from a committer, 8 +1 votes from community members and one PPMC abstentions (0). One -1 non-binding ballot were cast related the Finish translation that will be now not part of the release. Means we will not release a Finnish localized binary package. VOTE TALLY +1 Dave Fisher - IPMC (binding) 0 Dennis E. Hamilton (orcmid) +1 Pedro Giffuni - PPMC +1 Hagar Delest - PPMC +1 Ian Lynch - PPMC +1 Rob Weir - PPMC +1 RGB ES - PPMC +1 Zoltán Reizinger - PPMC +1 Donald Harbison - PPMC +1 Kay Schenk - PPMC +1 Armin Le Grand - PPMC +1 Herbert Duerr - PPMC +1 Carl Marcum - PPMC +1 Marcus Lange - PPMC +1 Regina Henschel - PPMC +1 Andrew Rist - PPMC +1 Andrea Pescetti - PPMC +1 Ariel Constenla-Haile - PPMC +1 Juergen Schmidt - PPMC +1 Oliver Rainer Wittmann - PPMC +1 Kazunaro Hirano - PPMC +1 Maho Nakato - PPMC +1 Andre Fischer - PPMC +1 Eric Bachard - PPMC +1 Raphael Bircher - PPMC +1 Drew Jensen - PPMC +1 Chritoph Jopp - PPMC +1 Yuri Dario -Committer +1 Larry Gusaas +1 Shen Feng Liu +1 Rory O'Farrell +1 Chao Huang +1 Albino Biasutti Neto +1 Peng Chen +1 Ying Sun +1 ZuoJun Chen -1 Risto Jääskeläinen, only for Finnish translation 35 Votes +1 1 Votes 0 1 Votes -1
Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Hi also +1 Kazunaro Hirano - PPMC - +1 Kazunari Hirano - PPMC
So, we have a RC1 ? (Was: Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1)
Hi From: Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com Subject: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1 35 Votes +1 1 Votes 0 1 Votes -1 Only for register: +1 (committer) So, we have a RC1? And a press release or note where we can translate? Best, Claudio
Re: So, we have a RC1 ? (Was: Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1)
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi From: Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com Subject: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1 35 Votes +1 1 Votes 0 1 Votes -1 Only for register: +1 (committer) So, we have a RC1? And a press release or note where we can translate? I believe we have the (3) +1 binding votes from the IPMC, but I haven't seen a formal announcement on that yet. Project blog post coming. Best, Claudio
Re: So, we have a RC1 ? (Was: Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1)
On Friday, 27. April 2012 at 15:27, Donald Harbison wrote: On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi From: Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com Subject: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1 35 Votes +1 1 Votes 0 1 Votes -1 Only for register: +1 (committer) So, we have a RC1? And a press release or note where we can translate? I believe we have the (3) +1 binding votes from the IPMC, but I haven't seen a formal announcement on that yet. Project blog post coming. well the IPMC voting started yesterday and I extended it until next week over the weekend. When everything goes well we an release next week. I will prepare a message for announce and also a blog post on Monday to have everything in place. I will definitely ask for feedback. Juergen Best, Claudio
Re: So, we have a RC1 ? (Was: Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1)
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi From: Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com Subject: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1 35 Votes +1 1 Votes 0 1 Votes -1 Only for register: +1 (committer) So, we have a RC1? And a press release or note where we can translate? The vote ends on Wed. Until then it is still possible for us to get -1 votes or for someone to change their vote. So we should not make any announcements yet. -Rob Best, Claudio
Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
BTW: FreeBSD ports tree has been updated to 3.4rc1. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/editors/openoffice-3-devel/Makefile?rev=1.531;content-type=text%2Fx-cvsweb-markup and also I'm heading for openoffice-3 port. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=167305 thanks Nakaa Maho From: Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org Subject: [DISCUSS][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1 Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 13:01:15 -0700 What does release-candidate voting at the Apache OpenOffice podling mean? Is it is just an assessment of support/sentiment, or is there more involved? The ballot has this phrasing: But we invite all people to vote (non-binding) on this RC. We would like to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project members. +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) 0 Don't care -1 Do not release this package because... I suggest that there are binding PPMC votes on this ballot. They are binding with respect to whether or not the release candidate will be submitted to the Incubator PMC for its consideration. While non-PPMC/-committer participants can of course vote their sentiment, there is something more valuable to be achieved in this process. Committers and PPMC members are expected to cast informed ballots. If any contributor casts a -1, it should be accompanied by a clear, specific explanation and suggestion of actions that would cure the situation. Here is something that all project contributors can participate in, with or without voting: PARTICIPATE IN QUALITY-ASSURANCE COVERAGE OF THE CANDIDATE It is valuable to download the source code and confirm that binaries can be built. It is valuable to download the binaries and confirm that they install properly under a variety of conditions. It is especially valuable to verify functions and operations that are important to you as an user of OpenOffice.org who desires to use Apache OpenOffice 3.4 as an upgrade. If this is your first try at testing a release in any way, all the better. It is also useful to confirm whether the same problem reported by someone else is also occurring for others. Rather than have many people conduct and confirm the same successes, it is useful for contributors to explore areas not previously reported on. It is particularly valuable to examine areas where there have been difficulties in the past to see if there is any change: improvement or degradation. Lily Zhao, Oliver-Rainer Wittman, and others have created wiki pages that can be used to help people organize their QA investigations and reports. There is a general page on the Apache OpenOffice Community Wiki with a table for addition of results: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+RC+Build+Test+Report. This is for general trials at installation and inspection of functions, rather than specific test cases. To add to this table, a Community Wiki registration is required. (Note: please use the page above for casual test reports, including of installation failures, rather than adding comments to the Release Candidate and Developer Snapshot pages. Help us collect these in a small number of places.) Test cases are defined on the OpenOffice.org Wiki at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/TestCases/. You can add or update test cases. Registration on the OpenOffice.org Wiki (different than the Community Wiki) is required to update these pages. Test results can be added on the OpenOffice.org Wiki at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/TestResults. Registration on the OpenOffice.org Wiki is required. Editing is the same as for any MediaWiki installation, just like Wikipedia. There is an overall Release-QA-Plan for background: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-QA-Plan. - Dennis BACKGROUND CONSIDERATIONS - WHAT MAKES A RELEASE CANDIDATE ELIGIBLE TO BE A RELEASE? When a release candidate is voted on by the IPMC, it is *not* a statement about the quality of the release with regard to its function and reliability. It is an assessment of specific measures releasable code must satisfy, regardless of its function. There is no direct relationship to quality of the release as usable software. The IPMC determination is more about the completeness of the source, the IP clearance of the source code, and that everything necessary to build run-time versions of the code is provided. The binaries, the most important part for users, are assessed mainly for having been built from the released source, being certified as such by the release manager(s), and satisfaction certain additional requirements concerning dependencies, notices, and honoring of licenses. It might be that a serious quality issue, a release-blocker, is identified
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
+1 Andre On 21.04.2012 08:58, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). This will be the first incubator release for Apache OpenOffice and a key milestone to continue the success of OpenOffice.org. This release candidate provides the following important key changes compared to former OpenOffice releases: (1) Code clean up to remove all copyleft components and external dependencies (2) Reworked or introduced LICENSE and NOTICE file to reflect and document the used licenses of the code itself as well as of external 3rd party libraries (3) MD5, SHA1, SHA512 hashes and GPG signatures for all of artifacts For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under https://cwiki.apache.org/OOOUSERS/aoo-34-release-notes.html. The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary releases for 16 languages) and further information how to verify and review Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) can be found on the following wiki page: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+%28incubating%29+Release+Candidate Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). The vote starts now and will be open until: UTC midnight Wednesday, 25 April: 2012-04-25 24:00 UTC. After the vote of the PPMC the vote will start on gene...@incubtor.apache.org mailing and will be open for further 72 hours. But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project members. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
On 25.04.2012 04:18, Dave Fisher wrote: On Apr 24, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Dave Fisherdave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Apr 22, 2012, at 1:21 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: [...] (3) When building from source there was no warning about the inclusion of Category B? I think that the Building Guide should be edited to more clearly explain the ext_sources and ext_libraries. I know we have the information. It is more making this clear. Again, I'm not sure if it a SHOULD or a MUST for a build to pause and get explicit permission to download category B. If you build with the default build flags, then you get no category B code. If you want category B code then you need to explicitly add those command-line build flags. Maybe the impact of these flags needs to be clearer in the Building Guide? Yes, that would be great. I tried to do that (see [1]). Please check if I succeeded. Andre [1] http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO#Configuration_and_bootstrapping [...]
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Hi, +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) Le 21 avr. 12 à 02:58, Jürgen Schmidt a écrit : Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). This will be the first incubator release for Apache OpenOffice and a key milestone to continue the success of OpenOffice.org. This release candidate provides the following important key changes compared to former OpenOffice releases: (1) Code clean up to remove all copyleft components and external dependencies (2) Reworked or introduced LICENSE and NOTICE file to reflect and document the used licenses of the code itself as well as of external 3rd party libraries (3) MD5, SHA1, SHA512 hashes and GPG signatures for all of artifacts For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under https://cwiki.apache.org/OOOUSERS/aoo-34-release-notes.html. The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary releases for 16 languages) and further information how to verify and review Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) can be found on the following wiki page: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+% 28incubating%29+Release+Candidate Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). The vote starts now and will be open until: UTC midnight Wednesday, 25 April: 2012-04-25 24:00 UTC. After the vote of the PPMC the vote will start on gene...@incubtor.apache.org mailing and will be open for further 72 hours. But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project members. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because... -- qɔᴉɹə Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org Blog : http://eric.bachard.org/news
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
+1 for the Release Am 21.04.12 02:58, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). This will be the first incubator release for Apache OpenOffice and a key milestone to continue the success of OpenOffice.org. This release candidate provides the following important key changes compared to former OpenOffice releases: (1) Code clean up to remove all copyleft components and external dependencies (2) Reworked or introduced LICENSE and NOTICE file to reflect and document the used licenses of the code itself as well as of external 3rd party libraries (3) MD5, SHA1, SHA512 hashes and GPG signatures for all of artifacts For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under https://cwiki.apache.org/OOOUSERS/aoo-34-release-notes.html. The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary releases for 16 languages) and further information how to verify and review Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) can be found on the following wiki page: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+%28incubating%29+Release+Candidate Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). The vote starts now and will be open until: UTC midnight Wednesday, 25 April: 2012-04-25 24:00 UTC. After the vote of the PPMC the vote will start on gene...@incubtor.apache.org mailing and will be open for further 72 hours. But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project members. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
+1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) After working for a couple of weeks with the dev-snapshots and now with this RC1 - it feels good. Thank you all very much Am 21.04.2012 20:14, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: =0, abstain (PPMC) -Original Message- From: Jürgen Schmidt [mailto:jogischm...@googlemail.com] Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 17:58 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; ooo-priv...@incubator.apache.org Subject: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1 [ ... ] Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). The vote starts now and will be open until: UTC midnight Wednesday, 25 April: 2012-04-25 24:00 UTC. After the vote of the PPMC the vote will start on gene...@incubtor.apache.org mailing and will be open for further 72 hours. But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project members. [ ] [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
[VOTE][Preliminary RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
The vote period to release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1 is still ongoing for 2 hours but this preliminary result gives a short overview. Because of longer traveling activities and to start the IPMC vote on the RC1 I have already counted the votes that we have received so far. The ballot result was +34 including one IPMC member binding +1, 22 +1 votes fro PPMC members, one +1 from a committer, 8 +1 votes from community members and one PPMC abstentions (0). One -1 non-binding ballot were cast related the Finish translation that will be now not part of the release. Means we will not release a Finnish localized binary package. VOTE TALLY +1 Dave Fisher - IPMC (binding) 0 Dennis E. Hamilton (orcmid) +1 Pedro Giffuni - PPMC +1 Hagar Delest - PPMC +1 Ian Lynch - PPMC +1 Rob Weir - PPMC +1 RGB ES - PPMC +1 Zoltán Reizinger - PPMC +1 Donald Harbison - PPMC +1 Kay Schenk - PPMC +1 Armin Le Grand - PPMC +1 Herbert Duerr - PPMC +1 Carl Marcum - PPMC +1 Marcus Lange - PPMC +1 Regina Henschel - PPMC +1 Andrew Rist - PPMC +1 Andrea Pescetti - PPMC +1 Ariel Constenla-Haile - PPMC +1 Juergen Schmidt - PPMC +1 Oliver Rainer Wittmann - PPMC +1 Kazunaro Hirano - PPMC +1 Maho Nakato - PPMC +1 Andre Fischer - PPMC +1 Eric Bachard - PPMC +1 Raphael Bircher - PPMC +1 Drew Jensen - PPMC +1 Chritoph Jopp - PPMC +1 Yuri Dario -Committer +1 Larry Gusaas +1 Shen Feng Liu +1 Rory O'Farrell +1 Chao Huang +1 Albino Biasutti Neto +1 Peng Chen +1 Ying Sun +1 ZuoJun Chen -1 Risto Jääskeläinen, only for Finnish translation 35 Votes +1 1 Votes 0 1 Votes -1
Re: [VOTE][Preliminary RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
2012/4/26 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com: The vote period to release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1 is still ongoing for 2 hours but this preliminary result gives a short overview. Because of longer traveling activities and to start the IPMC vote on the RC1 I have already counted the votes that we have received so far. The ballot result was +34 including one IPMC member binding +1, 22 +1 votes fro PPMC members, one +1 from a committer, 8 +1 votes from community members and one PPMC abstentions (0). One -1 non-binding ballot were cast related the Finish translation that will be now not part of the release. Means we will not release a Finnish localized binary package. VOTE TALLY +1 Dave Fisher - IPMC (binding) 0 Dennis E. Hamilton (orcmid) +1 Pedro Giffuni - PPMC +1 Hagar Delest - PPMC +1 Ian Lynch - PPMC +1 Rob Weir - PPMC +1 RGB ES - PPMC +1 Zoltán Reizinger - PPMC +1 Donald Harbison - PPMC +1 Kay Schenk - PPMC +1 Armin Le Grand - PPMC +1 Herbert Duerr - PPMC +1 Carl Marcum - PPMC +1 Marcus Lange - PPMC +1 Regina Henschel - PPMC +1 Andrew Rist - PPMC +1 Andrea Pescetti - PPMC +1 Ariel Constenla-Haile - PPMC +1 Juergen Schmidt - PPMC +1 Oliver Rainer Wittmann - PPMC +1 Kazunaro Hirano - PPMC +1 Maho Nakato - PPMC +1 Andre Fischer - PPMC +1 Eric Bachard - PPMC +1 Raphael Bircher - PPMC +1 Drew Jensen - PPMC +1 Chritoph Jopp - PPMC +1 Yuri Dario -Committer +1 Larry Gusaas +1 Shen Feng Liu +1 Rory O'Farrell +1 Chao Huang +1 Albino Biasutti Neto +1 Peng Chen +1 Ying Sun +1 ZuoJun Chen -1 Risto Jääskeläinen, only for Finnish translation 35 Votes +1 1 Votes 0 1 Votes -1 +1 From Galician group We performed basics tests on Windows 7 and Ubuntu 11.10 -- Antón Méixome - Galician Native Lang Coordination Blog about Galician Office Suite Galician community OOo.org LibO http://blog.openoffice.gl
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
-1 (nobody) For Finnish package only. Reason: http://www.saunalahti.fi/rjaaskel/Kuvat/Tulostaikkuna.jpg Print dialog/window is working but it is so wide that it needs two screen (over 2000 pixel). So if Finnish is dropped out now and published with next minor version if there is possible integrate newest translations then? Bug is fixed in Pootle but correct translation is not yet in publshed package. I am sorry if this is not correct way of voting Regards Risto Jürgen Schmidt [jogischm...@googlemail.com] kirjoitti: Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). This will be the first incubator release for Apache OpenOffice and a key milestone to continue the success of OpenOffice.org. This release candidate provides the following important key changes compared to former OpenOffice releases: (1) Code clean up to remove all copyleft components and external dependencies (2) Reworked or introduced LICENSE and NOTICE file to reflect and document the used licenses of the code itself as well as of external 3rd party libraries (3) MD5, SHA1, SHA512 hashes and GPG signatures for all of artifacts For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under https://cwiki.apache.org/OOOUSERS/aoo-34-release-notes.html. The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary releases for 16 languages) and further information how to verify and review Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) can be found on the following wiki page: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+%28incubating%29+Release+Candidate Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). The vote starts now and will be open until: UTC midnight Wednesday, 25 April: 2012-04-25 24:00 UTC. After the vote of the PPMC the vote will start on gene...@incubtor.apache.org mailing and will be open for further 72 hours. But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project members. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Hi, Fetched r1327774, built and checked win pro version and mac version, played around with both. Looks fine, no bigger problems found +1 On 21.04.2012 02:58, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). This will be the first incubator release for Apache OpenOffice and a key milestone to continue the success of OpenOffice.org. [..] [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because... Sincerely, Armin -- ALG
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
HI. 2012/4/24 Risto Jääskeläinen rjaas...@saunalahti.fi -1 (nobody) For Finnish package only. Reason: http://www.saunalahti.fi/**rjaaskel/Kuvat/Tulostaikkuna.**jpghttp://www.saunalahti.fi/rjaaskel/Kuvat/Tulostaikkuna.jpg Print dialog/window is working but it is so wide that it needs two screen (over 2000 pixel). So if Finnish is dropped out now and published with next minor version if there is possible integrate newest translations then? Bug is fixed in Pootle but correct translation is not yet in publshed package. Claudio, me and our community [1] are translating AOO for pt-BR, with program Lokalize (gnome and kde). There small problems on synchronize the archives. The organize in our list the e-mail. I am sorry if this is not correct way of voting Regards Risto Jürgen Schmidt [jogischm...@googlemail.com] kirjoitti: Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). This will be the first incubator release for Apache OpenOffice and a key milestone to continue the success of OpenOffice.org. This release candidate provides the following important key changes compared to former OpenOffice releases: (1) Code clean up to remove all copyleft components and external dependencies (2) Reworked or introduced LICENSE and NOTICE file to reflect and document the used licenses of the code itself as well as of external 3rd party libraries (3) MD5, SHA1, SHA512 hashes and GPG signatures for all of artifacts For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under https://cwiki.apache.org/**OOOUSERS/aoo-34-release-notes.**htmlhttps://cwiki.apache.org/OOOUSERS/aoo-34-release-notes.html . The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary releases for 16 languages) and further information how to verify and review Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) can be found on the following wiki page: https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** AOO+3.4+%28incubating%29+**Release+Candidatehttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+%28incubating%29+Release+Candidate Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). The vote starts now and will be open until: UTC midnight Wednesday, 25 April: 2012-04-25 24:00 UTC. After the vote of the PPMC the vote will start on gene...@incubtor.apache.org mailing and will be open for further 72 hours. But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project members. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because... The tests in AOO, very good! I am using the exclusively program AOO in my notebook. 1 - www.escritoriolivre.org Abraços, Albino @bino28
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
2012/4/24 Risto Jääskeläinen rjaas...@saunalahti.fi: -1 (nobody) For Finnish package only. Reason: http://www.saunalahti.fi/rjaaskel/Kuvat/Tulostaikkuna.jpg Print dialog/window is working but it is so wide that it needs two screen (over 2000 pixel). So if Finnish is dropped out now and published with next minor version if there is possible integrate newest translations then? Bug is fixed in Pootle but correct translation is not yet in publshed package. I am sorry if this is not correct way of voting Could you also try English version in your environment? This may not be a Finnish specific issue. Regards Risto Jürgen Schmidt [jogischm...@googlemail.com] kirjoitti: Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). This will be the first incubator release for Apache OpenOffice and a key milestone to continue the success of OpenOffice.org. This release candidate provides the following important key changes compared to former OpenOffice releases: (1) Code clean up to remove all copyleft components and external dependencies (2) Reworked or introduced LICENSE and NOTICE file to reflect and document the used licenses of the code itself as well as of external 3rd party libraries (3) MD5, SHA1, SHA512 hashes and GPG signatures for all of artifacts For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under https://cwiki.apache.org/OOOUSERS/aoo-34-release-notes.html. The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary releases for 16 languages) and further information how to verify and review Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) can be found on the following wiki page: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+%28incubating%29+Release+Candidate Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). The vote starts now and will be open until: UTC midnight Wednesday, 25 April: 2012-04-25 24:00 UTC. After the vote of the PPMC the vote will start on gene...@incubtor.apache.org mailing and will be open for further 72 hours. But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project members. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
Re: Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
See: Thread: Fix for bug 116639 almost Yong Lin Ma [mayo...@gmail.com] kirjoitti: 2012/4/24 Risto Jääskeläinen rjaas...@saunalahti.fi: -1 (nobody) For Finnish package only. Reason: http://www.saunalahti.fi/rjaaskel/Kuvat/Tulostaikkuna.jpg Print dialog/window is working but it is so wide that it needs two screen (over 2000 pixel). So if Finnish is dropped out now and published with next minor version if there is possible integrate newest translations then? Bug is fixed in Pootle but correct translation is not yet in publshed package. I am sorry if this is not correct way of voting Could you also try English version in your environment? This may not be a Finnish specific issue. Regards Risto Jürgen Schmidt [jogischm...@googlemail.com] kirjoitti: Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). This will be the first incubator release for Apache OpenOffice and a key milestone to continue the success of OpenOffice.org. This release candidate provides the following important key changes compared to former OpenOffice releases: (1) Code clean up to remove all copyleft components and external dependencies (2) Reworked or introduced LICENSE and NOTICE file to reflect and document the used licenses of the code itself as well as of external 3rd party libraries (3) MD5, SHA1, SHA512 hashes and GPG signatures for all of artifacts For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under https://cwiki.apache.org/OOOUSERS/aoo-34-release-notes.html. The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary releases for 16 languages) and further information how to verify and review Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) can be found on the following wiki page: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+%28incubating%29+Release+Candidate Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). The vote starts now and will be open until: UTC midnight Wednesday, 25 April: 2012-04-25 24:00 UTC. After the vote of the PPMC the vote will start on gene...@incubtor.apache.org mailing and will be open for further 72 hours. But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project members. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
Re: Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
On 24.04.2012 16:55, Risto Jääskeläinen wrote: See: Thread: Fix for bug 116639 almost I don't think that 116639 was the root cause. Looking at the problematic string in the screenshot you provided at http://www.saunalahti.fi/rjaaskel/Kuvat/Tulostaikkuna.jpg the reason was simply a strange translation of what is named Comments, Kommentare, Comentarios, Commenti, etc. in other languages. In the Finnish localization as of AOO340_rc1 it reads: Kun tämä valinta on tehty, ohjelman lisäämät tyhjät sivut tulostetaan. Tämä on tarpeen, kun tulostetaan kaksipuoleisesti. Esimerkiksi kirjassa \luku\-kappaletyyli on määritelty alkavaksi aina parittomalta sivulta. Jos edellinen luku päättyy parittomalle sivulle, %PRODUCTNAME lisää parillisen tyhjän sivun. Tämä valinta ohjaa mainitun parillisen sivun tulostusta. which is defined in the STR_PRINTOPTUI 18 line of https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/trunk/extras/l10n/source/fi/localize.sdf Getting such a long string into a poor little dialog is does of course cause some trouble. [...] Bug is fixed in Pootle but correct translation is not yet in publshed package. The other translations for the other STR_PRINTOPTUI lines in the finnish localize.sdf were also a bit long. Have they been fixed too? I am sorry if this is not correct way of voting I'd like to extend that question by asking (e.g. the mentors) if it should be possible to split the voting in such situations, so that e.g. individual localization could vote for a different revision? Is a staggered release process allowed? Otherwise there would be a inherent scalability problem in the release process of such a huge multi-platform and multi-language application targeted at end users: if one problematic localization could reset the work of everyone else then this would be a recipe for a lot of frustration, as building, distributing, announcing and especially testing of a new revision is a huge effort and a lot of people are involved. Herbert
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because... +1 Rebuilt and tested r1327774 for Win/Mac/Linux for English and German. This productivity suite is something we can be proud of. Herbert
Re: Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote: On 24.04.2012 16:55, Risto Jääskeläinen wrote: See: Thread: Fix for bug 116639 almost I don't think that 116639 was the root cause. Looking at the problematic string in the screenshot you provided at http://www.saunalahti.fi/rjaaskel/Kuvat/Tulostaikkuna.jpg the reason was simply a strange translation of what is named Comments, Kommentare, Comentarios, Commenti, etc. in other languages. In the Finnish localization as of AOO340_rc1 it reads: Kun tämä valinta on tehty, ohjelman lisäämät tyhjät sivut tulostetaan. Tämä on tarpeen, kun tulostetaan kaksipuoleisesti. Esimerkiksi kirjassa \luku\-kappaletyyli on määritelty alkavaksi aina parittomalta sivulta. Jos edellinen luku päättyy parittomalle sivulle, %PRODUCTNAME lisää parillisen tyhjän sivun. Tämä valinta ohjaa mainitun parillisen sivun tulostusta. which is defined in the STR_PRINTOPTUI 18 line of https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/trunk/extras/l10n/source/fi/localize.sdf Getting such a long string into a poor little dialog is does of course cause some trouble. [...] Bug is fixed in Pootle but correct translation is not yet in publshed package. The other translations for the other STR_PRINTOPTUI lines in the finnish localize.sdf were also a bit long. Have they been fixed too? I am sorry if this is not correct way of voting I'd like to extend that question by asking (e.g. the mentors) if it should be possible to split the voting in such situations, so that e.g. individual localization could vote for a different revision? Is a staggered release process allowed? Otherwise there would be a inherent scalability problem in the release process of such a huge multi-platform and multi-language application targeted at end users: if one problematic localization could reset the work of everyone else then this would be a recipe for a lot of frustration, as building, distributing, announcing and especially testing of a new revision is a huge effort and a lot of people are involved. I think we can handle this efficiently. But we would need to take some precautions. Start with making a branch of RC1 in SVN, if RC1 is approved. If we then want to update a single language or a single platform, then we can make those changes in the branch. I think we would still require a release vote for any additional files we publish, such as updated translations, etc. So the same 72-hour voting process. But I don't think it would require that the IPMC do an in-depth review of the entire release, and it should not be necessary for us to do a complete regression test. I'd hope the IPMC would be satisfied to look at the SVN logs and see that only translations had been changed, and that would be enough to justify their approval. -Rob Herbert
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
+1 (PPMC) Tested Linux x86-64 on Fedora 16 and Windows version on Vista Best regards, Carl On 04/20/2012 08:58 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). This will be the first incubator release for Apache OpenOffice and a key milestone to continue the success of OpenOffice.org. This release candidate provides the following important key changes compared to former OpenOffice releases: (1) Code clean up to remove all copyleft components and external dependencies (2) Reworked or introduced LICENSE and NOTICE file to reflect and document the used licenses of the code itself as well as of external 3rd party libraries (3) MD5, SHA1, SHA512 hashes and GPG signatures for all of artifacts For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under https://cwiki.apache.org/OOOUSERS/aoo-34-release-notes.html. The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary releases for 16 languages) and further information how to verify and review Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) can be found on the following wiki page: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+%28incubating%29+Release+Candidate Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). The vote starts now and will be open until: UTC midnight Wednesday, 25 April: 2012-04-25 24:00 UTC. After the vote of the PPMC the vote will start on gene...@incubtor.apache.org mailing and will be open for further 72 hours. But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project members. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
Re: Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
On Apr 24, 2012, at 9:30 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote: On 24.04.2012 16:55, Risto Jääskeläinen wrote: See: Thread: Fix for bug 116639 almost I don't think that 116639 was the root cause. Looking at the problematic string in the screenshot you provided at http://www.saunalahti.fi/rjaaskel/Kuvat/Tulostaikkuna.jpg the reason was simply a strange translation of what is named Comments, Kommentare, Comentarios, Commenti, etc. in other languages. In the Finnish localization as of AOO340_rc1 it reads: Kun tämä valinta on tehty, ohjelman lisäämät tyhjät sivut tulostetaan. Tämä on tarpeen, kun tulostetaan kaksipuoleisesti. Esimerkiksi kirjassa \luku\-kappaletyyli on määritelty alkavaksi aina parittomalta sivulta. Jos edellinen luku päättyy parittomalle sivulle, %PRODUCTNAME lisää parillisen tyhjän sivun. Tämä valinta ohjaa mainitun parillisen sivun tulostusta. which is defined in the STR_PRINTOPTUI 18 line of https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/trunk/extras/l10n/source/fi/localize.sdf Getting such a long string into a poor little dialog is does of course cause some trouble. [...] Bug is fixed in Pootle but correct translation is not yet in publshed package. The other translations for the other STR_PRINTOPTUI lines in the finnish localize.sdf were also a bit long. Have they been fixed too? I am sorry if this is not correct way of voting I'd like to extend that question by asking (e.g. the mentors) if it should be possible to split the voting in such situations, so that e.g. individual localization could vote for a different revision? Is a staggered release process allowed? Otherwise there would be a inherent scalability problem in the release process of such a huge multi-platform and multi-language application targeted at end users: if one problematic localization could reset the work of everyone else then this would be a recipe for a lot of frustration, as building, distributing, announcing and especially testing of a new revision is a huge effort and a lot of people are involved. I think we can handle this efficiently. But we would need to take some precautions. Start with making a branch of RC1 in SVN, if RC1 is approved. If we then want to update a single language or a single platform, then we can make those changes in the branch. Or RC2. A branch this big will require coordination with Infra. I think we would still require a release vote for any additional files we publish, such as updated translations, etc. So the same 72-hour voting process. Makes sense to me. But I don't think it would require that the IPMC do an in-depth review of the entire release, and it should not be necessary for us to do a complete regression test. I'd hope the IPMC would be satisfied to look at the SVN logs and see that only translations had been changed, and that would be enough to justify their approval. Before we hope, let's get through a release with IPMC approval. Depending on how we do, a push for graduation makes sense. In that case our PMC votes will be enough. Regards, Dave -Rob Herbert
Re: Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Branches/tags are just server-side copies, which are O(1). Not a big deal for us- it's the merges that can be painful. From: Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 12:54 PM Subject: Re: Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1 On Apr 24, 2012, at 9:30 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote: On 24.04.2012 16:55, Risto Jääskeläinen wrote: See: Thread: Fix for bug 116639 almost I don't think that 116639 was the root cause. Looking at the problematic string in the screenshot you provided at http://www.saunalahti.fi/rjaaskel/Kuvat/Tulostaikkuna.jpg the reason was simply a strange translation of what is named Comments, Kommentare, Comentarios, Commenti, etc. in other languages. In the Finnish localization as of AOO340_rc1 it reads: Kun tämä valinta on tehty, ohjelman lisäämät tyhjät sivut tulostetaan. Tämä on tarpeen, kun tulostetaan kaksipuoleisesti. Esimerkiksi kirjassa \luku\-kappaletyyli on määritelty alkavaksi aina parittomalta sivulta. Jos edellinen luku päättyy parittomalle sivulle, %PRODUCTNAME lisää parillisen tyhjän sivun. Tämä valinta ohjaa mainitun parillisen sivun tulostusta. which is defined in the STR_PRINTOPTUI 18 line of https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/trunk/extras/l10n/source/fi/localize.sdf Getting such a long string into a poor little dialog is does of course cause some trouble. [...] Bug is fixed in Pootle but correct translation is not yet in publshed package. The other translations for the other STR_PRINTOPTUI lines in the finnish localize.sdf were also a bit long. Have they been fixed too? I am sorry if this is not correct way of voting I'd like to extend that question by asking (e.g. the mentors) if it should be possible to split the voting in such situations, so that e.g. individual localization could vote for a different revision? Is a staggered release process allowed? Otherwise there would be a inherent scalability problem in the release process of such a huge multi-platform and multi-language application targeted at end users: if one problematic localization could reset the work of everyone else then this would be a recipe for a lot of frustration, as building, distributing, announcing and especially testing of a new revision is a huge effort and a lot of people are involved. I think we can handle this efficiently. But we would need to take some precautions. Start with making a branch of RC1 in SVN, if RC1 is approved. If we then want to update a single language or a single platform, then we can make those changes in the branch. Or RC2. A branch this big will require coordination with Infra. I think we would still require a release vote for any additional files we publish, such as updated translations, etc. So the same 72-hour voting process. Makes sense to me. But I don't think it would require that the IPMC do an in-depth review of the entire release, and it should not be necessary for us to do a complete regression test. I'd hope the IPMC would be satisfied to look at the SVN logs and see that only translations had been changed, and that would be enough to justify their approval. Before we hope, let's get through a release with IPMC approval. Depending on how we do, a push for graduation makes sense. In that case our PMC votes will be enough. Regards, Dave -Rob Herbert
Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Hi, I'm a longtime user of StarOffice and OpenOffice and participated many years in d...@de.openoffice.org and in testing OOo and will continue this with AOO. Am 23.04.2012 16:09, schrieb Juergen Schmidt: ... The download page should at least mention that this installation set will replace a former installation of OpenOffice.org 3. What do you think people will expect when they download the software from downloads.openoffice.org? When you know the answer you will have probably the answer to your suggestion ;-) Juergen ... As I somtimes write books (f.e. manuals for OOo) with hundreds of pages, images (screenshots etc.) and links, as a user I expect, that I can retain the old version and test the new one until I'm shure, that I can safely continue my work with the new version. (You know: what's new in the new version? New bugs!) When the feature to replace the old version in any case was introduced (IIRC with OOo 2) I had a long discussion in d...@de.openoffice.org, but the bad decision (IMO) was not corrected. Nobody who is working on large documents can risk to change his writing tool. They will not replace f.e. OOo 3.3 with OOo 3.4 and so much intensive testing will not take place. OOo installing with param -a or /a was a means to use a new version (without system integration on Windows) parallel to the old. I hope that this is also possible with OOo 3.4 and later with AOO 4. Can anybody confirm this? -- Regards Günter Marxen
Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
On Apr 22, 2012, at 1:21 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: On Apr 22, 2012, at 1:02 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Apr 22, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Rob Weir wrote: snip You snipped out the important part: Sorry, thought you answered your own question there. But since you bring it up, there is no requirement for a DISCLAIMER file. There is however a requirement for making the user aware of the incubation disclaimer. See this page, where several options are listed: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#notes-disclaimer Keep in mind that page is clearly labeled as a DRAFT. http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#status The DISCLAIMER file is certainly in the correct place in the Source distribution. Well, I was not correct here. It is in the SVN, but fails to make it into any of the distributions. I did a MacOSX build, reviewed the NOTICE, LICENSE, rat-exclude and rat output from a nightly build. An amazing job was done with the Headers and the RAT report! Here are my concerns: (1) DISCLAIMER ought to be included in all packages. We'll have to see if this is a SHOULD or a MUST. (2) LICENSE contains copyright statements which ought to be part of the NOTICE file. Again we'll see if this is a SHOULD or a MUST. (3) When building from source there was no warning about the inclusion of Category B? I think that the Building Guide should be edited to more clearly explain the ext_sources and ext_libraries. I know we have the information. It is more making this clear. Again, I'm not sure if it a SHOULD or a MUST for a build to pause and get explicit permission to download category B. Regards, Dave I think that I answered the question, but I would like to ask our project Mentors if this will be an issue in IPMC voting. I've seen enough on general@i.a.o to know that it may be for some and not others. So, while this is not a problem for me, if it is likely IPMC will request an RC2 over this we should know now. Regards, Dave -Rob The SDK and Binaries are missing the DISCLAIMER file. Is a missing Incubation DISCLAIMER in a binary package enough to prevent release? I think probably not, but this may be an edge case. The application pop-ups do mention Incubation and every page linked back to thewww.openoffice.org shows the Disclaimer... Regards, Dave -Rob
Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Hi Günter, Guenter Marxen schrieb: Hi, I'm a longtime user of StarOffice and OpenOffice and participated many years in d...@de.openoffice.org and in testing OOo and will continue this with AOO. You are welcome. [..] When the feature to replace the old version in any case was introduced (IIRC with OOo 2) I had a long discussion in d...@de.openoffice.org, but the bad decision (IMO) was not corrected. Nobody who is working on large documents can risk to change his writing tool. They will not replace f.e. OOo 3.3 with OOo 3.4 and so much intensive testing will not take place. OOo installing with param -a or /a was a means to use a new version (without system integration on Windows) parallel to the old. I hope that this is also possible with OOo 3.4 and later with AOO 4. Can anybody confirm this? Yes, it is still possible for version 3.4 by the same way. I don't remember, whether it is possible to copy over the user folder. If you notice problems with extensions for example, you should start with a new, default user folder. No plans exist yet, whether a AOO 4 will replace a AOO 3.4. Kind regards Regina
Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Apr 22, 2012, at 1:21 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: On Apr 22, 2012, at 1:02 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Apr 22, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Rob Weir wrote: snip You snipped out the important part: Sorry, thought you answered your own question there. But since you bring it up, there is no requirement for a DISCLAIMER file. There is however a requirement for making the user aware of the incubation disclaimer. See this page, where several options are listed: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#notes-disclaimer Keep in mind that page is clearly labeled as a DRAFT. http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#status The DISCLAIMER file is certainly in the correct place in the Source distribution. Well, I was not correct here. It is in the SVN, but fails to make it into any of the distributions. I did a MacOSX build, reviewed the NOTICE, LICENSE, rat-exclude and rat output from a nightly build. An amazing job was done with the Headers and the RAT report! Here are my concerns: (1) DISCLAIMER ought to be included in all packages. We'll have to see if this is a SHOULD or a MUST. I think we need to make it clear to the user that this is a project under incubation. There are several ways of doing this. Standalone DISCLAIMER is one way. Adding to README file is another explicitly called out in the podling release guide. (2) LICENSE contains copyright statements which ought to be part of the NOTICE file. Again we'll see if this is a SHOULD or a MUST. Do you have some examples? As I understand it, unless it is a required notice per the license, the only copyrights that go into NOTICE are the ASF copyright and the Oracle one which was relocated from the source files when the ALv2 headers were added. We're not required to put every copyright statement in NOTICE. (3) When building from source there was no warning about the inclusion of Category B? I think that the Building Guide should be edited to more clearly explain the ext_sources and ext_libraries. I know we have the information. It is more making this clear. Again, I'm not sure if it a SHOULD or a MUST for a build to pause and get explicit permission to download category B. If you build with the default build flags, then you get no category B code. If you want category B code then you need to explicitly add those command-line build flags. Maybe the impact of these flags needs to be clearer in the Building Guide? I don't think you really want the build system to actually pause and wait for human input. That might complicated the Buildbot Regards, Dave I think that I answered the question, but I would like to ask our project Mentors if this will be an issue in IPMC voting. I've seen enough on general@i.a.o to know that it may be for some and not others. So, while this is not a problem for me, if it is likely IPMC will request an RC2 over this we should know now. Regards, Dave -Rob The SDK and Binaries are missing the DISCLAIMER file. Is a missing Incubation DISCLAIMER in a binary package enough to prevent release? I think probably not, but this may be an edge case. The application pop-ups do mention Incubation and every page linked back to thewww.openoffice.org shows the Disclaimer... Regards, Dave -Rob
Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Guenter Marxen wrote: OOo installing with param -a or /a was a means to use a new version (without system integration on Windows) parallel to the old. I hope that this is also possible with OOo 3.4 and later with AOO 4. Can anybody confirm this? I've been reported so, but I didn't check personally. However, keep in mind that if you are going to share your profile among different versions (which will happen in this case) I've seen QA reports about instability and, for people who uninstalled 3.4 and went back to 3.3, broken extensions management: OpenOffice 3.4 has a different extensions management and, while it will do its best to migrate installed extensions, it won't restore the previous situation upon uninstalling, leaving you with (for example) broken dictionaries. Regards, Andrea.
Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Hi Andrea, Andrea Pescetti schrieb: Guenter Marxen wrote: OOo installing with param -a or /a was a means to use a new version (without system integration on Windows) parallel to the old. I hope that this is also possible with OOo 3.4 and later with AOO 4. Can anybody confirm this? I've been reported so, but I didn't check personally. However, keep in mind that if you are going to share your profile among different versions (which will happen in this case) I have assumed, that Günter knows to avoid this. The usual way is to edit the bootstrap.ini file or to call soffice.exe with a parameter -env:UserInstallation= and start with a new user folder or work on a copy of the old folder. I've seen QA reports about instability and, for people who uninstalled 3.4 and went back to 3.3, broken extensions management: OpenOffice 3.4 has a different extensions management and, while it will do its best to migrate installed extensions, it won't restore the previous situation upon uninstalling, leaving you with (for example) broken dictionaries. Kind regards Regina
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
+1 Marcus Am 04/21/2012 02:58 AM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). This will be the first incubator release for Apache OpenOffice and a key milestone to continue the success of OpenOffice.org. This release candidate provides the following important key changes compared to former OpenOffice releases: (1) Code clean up to remove all copyleft components and external dependencies (2) Reworked or introduced LICENSE and NOTICE file to reflect and document the used licenses of the code itself as well as of external 3rd party libraries (3) MD5, SHA1, SHA512 hashes and GPG signatures for all of artifacts For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under https://cwiki.apache.org/OOOUSERS/aoo-34-release-notes.html. The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary releases for 16 languages) and further information how to verify and review Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) can be found on the following wiki page: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+%28incubating%29+Release+Candidate Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). The vote starts now and will be open until: UTC midnight Wednesday, 25 April: 2012-04-25 24:00 UTC. After the vote of the PPMC the vote will start on gene...@incubtor.apache.org mailing and will be open for further 72 hours. But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project members. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
+1 (binding IPMC and PPMC) Regards, Dave On Apr 20, 2012, at 5:58 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). This will be the first incubator release for Apache OpenOffice and a key milestone to continue the success of OpenOffice.org. This release candidate provides the following important key changes compared to former OpenOffice releases: (1) Code clean up to remove all copyleft components and external dependencies (2) Reworked or introduced LICENSE and NOTICE file to reflect and document the used licenses of the code itself as well as of external 3rd party libraries (3) MD5, SHA1, SHA512 hashes and GPG signatures for all of artifacts For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under https://cwiki.apache.org/OOOUSERS/aoo-34-release-notes.html. The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary releases for 16 languages) and further information how to verify and review Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) can be found on the following wiki page: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+%28incubating%29+Release+Candidate Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). The vote starts now and will be open until: UTC midnight Wednesday, 25 April: 2012-04-25 24:00 UTC. After the vote of the PPMC the vote will start on gene...@incubtor.apache.org mailing and will be open for further 72 hours. But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project members. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
+1 Kind regards Regina Jürgen Schmidt schrieb: Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). The vote starts now and will be open until: UTC midnight Wednesday, 25 April: 2012-04-25 24:00 UTC. After the vote of the PPMC the vote will start on gene...@incubtor.apache.org mailing and will be open for further 72 hours. But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project members. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Thanks, Regina and Andrea, Am 24.04.2012 21:30, schrieb Regina Henschel: Hi Andrea, Andrea Pescetti schrieb: Guenter Marxen wrote: OOo installing with param -a or /a was a means to use a new version ... mind that if you are going to share your profile among different versions (which will happen in this case) I have assumed, that Günter knows to avoid this. The usual way is to edit the bootstrap.ini file or to call soffice.exe with a parameter ... yes, formerly I did it by editing the path in bootstrap.ini. (Thanks Regina, that you confirmed that. In the moment I had no nerves to test it for myself.) My first mail was an answer to Juergen Schmidt's question (What do you think people will expect...) and I would strongly propose, to re-implement the possibility to install parallel versions (f.e. with user defined installation and profiles named by version n.m). I will make an enhancement issue for AOO 4. Nevertheless there couldt also be an info in the README and perhaps on the download page. ... I've seen QA reports about instability and, for people who uninstalled 3.4 and went back to 3.3, broken extensions management: OpenOffice 3.4 has a different extensions management and, while it will do its best to migrate installed Thank you, I follow this mailing list and read it too. And that was besides my own experiences with OOo 1, 2 and 3 another significant reason not to do any trials with OOo 3.4 until now. As said, nobody working seriously can afford to loose (parts of) his work by using a new version because of new bugs. But some of them are willing to test new versions with copies of the text. And this wouldt benefit AOO. -- Regards Günter
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
+1 On 4/20/2012 5:58 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). The vote starts now and will be open until: UTC midnight Wednesday, 25 April: 2012-04-25 24:00 UTC. After the vote of the PPMC the vote will start on gene...@incubtor.apache.org mailing and will be open for further 72 hours. But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project members. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
Re: Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
On 4/25/12 12:02 AM, Herbert Duerr wrote: On 24.04.2012 16:55, Risto Jääskeläinen wrote: See: Thread: Fix for bug 116639 almost I don't think that 116639 was the root cause. Looking at the problematic string in the screenshot you provided at http://www.saunalahti.fi/rjaaskel/Kuvat/Tulostaikkuna.jpg the reason was simply a strange translation of what is named Comments, Kommentare, Comentarios, Commenti, etc. in other languages. In the Finnish localization as of AOO340_rc1 it reads: Kun tämä valinta on tehty, ohjelman lisäämät tyhjät sivut tulostetaan. Tämä on tarpeen, kun tulostetaan kaksipuoleisesti. Esimerkiksi kirjassa \luku\-kappaletyyli on määritelty alkavaksi aina parittomalta sivulta. Jos edellinen luku päättyy parittomalle sivulle, %PRODUCTNAME lisää parillisen tyhjän sivun. Tämä valinta ohjaa mainitun parillisen sivun tulostusta. which is defined in the STR_PRINTOPTUI 18 line of https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/trunk/extras/l10n/source/fi/localize.sdf Getting such a long string into a poor little dialog is does of course cause some trouble. [...] Bug is fixed in Pootle but correct translation is not yet in publshed package. The other translations for the other STR_PRINTOPTUI lines in the finnish localize.sdf were also a bit long. Have they been fixed too? I am sorry if this is not correct way of voting I'd like to extend that question by asking (e.g. the mentors) if it should be possible to split the voting in such situations, so that e.g. individual localization could vote for a different revision? Is a staggered release process allowed? Otherwise there would be a inherent scalability problem in the release process of such a huge multi-platform and multi-language application targeted at end users: if one problematic localization could reset the work of everyone else then this would be a recipe for a lot of frustration, as building, distributing, announcing and especially testing of a new revision is a huge effort and a lot of people are involved. I agree in general and it would be good to have more flexibility here. But in this case we will simply not release Finnish and will move it in the next micro release. It was somewhat special for this release because we have underestimate the effort around the pootle server because the lack of knowledge and too many other things to do. Juergen
Re: Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
On 4/25/12 12:54 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: On Apr 24, 2012, at 9:30 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Herbert Duerrh...@apache.org wrote: On 24.04.2012 16:55, Risto Jääskeläinen wrote: See: Thread: Fix for bug 116639 almost I don't think that 116639 was the root cause. Looking at the problematic string in the screenshot you provided at http://www.saunalahti.fi/rjaaskel/Kuvat/Tulostaikkuna.jpg the reason was simply a strange translation of what is named Comments, Kommentare, Comentarios, Commenti, etc. in other languages. In the Finnish localization as of AOO340_rc1 it reads: Kun tämä valinta on tehty, ohjelman lisäämät tyhjät sivut tulostetaan. Tämä on tarpeen, kun tulostetaan kaksipuoleisesti. Esimerkiksi kirjassa \luku\-kappaletyyli on määritelty alkavaksi aina parittomalta sivulta. Jos edellinen luku päättyy parittomalle sivulle, %PRODUCTNAME lisää parillisen tyhjän sivun. Tämä valinta ohjaa mainitun parillisen sivun tulostusta. which is defined in the STR_PRINTOPTUI 18 line of https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/trunk/extras/l10n/source/fi/localize.sdf Getting such a long string into a poor little dialog is does of course cause some trouble. [...] Bug is fixed in Pootle but correct translation is not yet in publshed package. The other translations for the other STR_PRINTOPTUI lines in the finnish localize.sdf were also a bit long. Have they been fixed too? I am sorry if this is not correct way of voting I'd like to extend that question by asking (e.g. the mentors) if it should be possible to split the voting in such situations, so that e.g. individual localization could vote for a different revision? Is a staggered release process allowed? Otherwise there would be a inherent scalability problem in the release process of such a huge multi-platform and multi-language application targeted at end users: if one problematic localization could reset the work of everyone else then this would be a recipe for a lot of frustration, as building, distributing, announcing and especially testing of a new revision is a huge effort and a lot of people are involved. I think we can handle this efficiently. But we would need to take some precautions. Start with making a branch of RC1 in SVN, if RC1 is approved. If we then want to update a single language or a single platform, then we can make those changes in the branch. Or RC2. A branch this big will require coordination with Infra. we will need a branch anyway to have a code line for bugfixes etc. based on the release and the main trunk to continue the development to the next release. Juergen I think we would still require a release vote for any additional files we publish, such as updated translations, etc. So the same 72-hour voting process. Makes sense to me. But I don't think it would require that the IPMC do an in-depth review of the entire release, and it should not be necessary for us to do a complete regression test. I'd hope the IPMC would be satisfied to look at the SVN logs and see that only translations had been changed, and that would be enough to justify their approval. Before we hope, let's get through a release with IPMC approval. Depending on how we do, a push for graduation makes sense. In that case our PMC votes will be enough. Regards, Dave -Rob Herbert
Re: Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
On 4/25/12 5:31 AM, Risto Jääskeläinen wrote: Hello! There was for unknown reason mixture of UI texts and Tooltip texts in place for UI lines. When I now look at Pootle, there is no long string at wrong places any more. At least not in STR_PRINTOPTUI lines. I have no rights to accept anything in Pootle or elsewhere. I don't know what is most easy way handle this case. If it can just edit web-page rubbing out Finnish there it is OK to me. I mean that if it is not advertised as ready suite with Finnish translation then nobody is hurt? This are only my opinions. I have no position to demand anything. I just happens there are not many who can understand Finnish and as far as I know nobody of them has any rights to handle accept translations etc. Hi Risto, I have accepted the changes you have made but the time was to short to integrate the new updated translation from Pootle into the build. I will do that asap and it will be contained in the next micro update for 3.4 We appreciate very much your work on the translation and everything else you do here but sometimes we simply have to prioritize things. They day has only 24h and the week 7 days and we all did a lot. Many languages are not part of the first release and I have already put some priority on Finnish as feedback on your work on the mailing list and your translation work. So please be patient. Juergen Thanks Risto Herbert Duerr [h...@apache.org] kirjoitti: On 24.04.2012 16:55, Risto Jääskeläinen wrote: See: Thread: Fix for bug 116639 almost I don't think that 116639 was the root cause. Looking at the problematic string in the screenshot you provided at http://www.saunalahti.fi/rjaaskel/Kuvat/Tulostaikkuna.jpg the reason was simply a strange translation of what is named Comments, Kommentare, Comentarios, Commenti, etc. in other languages. In the Finnish localization as of AOO340_rc1 it reads: Kun tämä valinta on tehty, ohjelman lisäämät tyhjät sivut tulostetaan. Tämä on tarpeen, kun tulostetaan kaksipuoleisesti. Esimerkiksi kirjassa \luku\-kappaletyyli on määritelty alkavaksi aina parittomalta sivulta. Jos edellinen luku päättyy parittomalle sivulle, %PRODUCTNAME lisää parillisen tyhjän sivun. Tämä valinta ohjaa mainitun parillisen sivun tulostusta. which is defined in the STR_PRINTOPTUI 18 line of https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/trunk/extras/l10n/source/fi/localize.sdf Getting such a long string into a poor little dialog is does of course cause some trouble. [...] Bug is fixed in Pootle but correct translation is not yet in publshed package. The other translations for the other STR_PRINTOPTUI lines in the finnish localize.sdf were also a bit long. Have they been fixed too? I am sorry if this is not correct way of voting I'd like to extend that question by asking (e.g. the mentors) if it should be possible to split the voting in such situations, so that e.g. individual localization could vote for a different revision? Is a staggered release process allowed? Otherwise there would be a inherent scalability problem in the release process of such a huge multi-platform and multi-language application targeted at end users: if one problematic localization could reset the work of everyone else then this would be a recipe for a lot of frustration, as building, distributing, announcing and especially testing of a new revision is a huge effort and a lot of people are involved. Herbert
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
On 21/04/2012 Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) Regards, Andrea.
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 08:58:24AM +0800, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). This will be the first incubator release for Apache OpenOffice and a key milestone to continue the success of OpenOffice.org. This release candidate provides the following important key changes compared to former OpenOffice releases: (1) Code clean up to remove all copyleft components and external dependencies (2) Reworked or introduced LICENSE and NOTICE file to reflect and document the used licenses of the code itself as well as of external 3rd party libraries (3) MD5, SHA1, SHA512 hashes and GPG signatures for all of artifacts For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under https://cwiki.apache.org/OOOUSERS/aoo-34-release-notes.html. The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary releases for 16 languages) and further information how to verify and review Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) can be found on the following wiki page: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+%28incubating%29+Release+Candidate Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). The vote starts now and will be open until: UTC midnight Wednesday, 25 April: 2012-04-25 24:00 UTC. After the vote of the PPMC the vote will start on gene...@incubtor.apache.org mailing and will be open for further 72 hours. But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project members. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because... +1 (PPMC) I downloaded the sources from http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo34-rc/rc1/src/aoo-3.4.0-incubating-src.tar.bz2 and built on Windows XP and Linux 64 bits (Fedora 16 - Verne). The source is buildable, the binaries can be installed (with already known issues on Linux), and the application runs with acceptable quality. Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina pgpJIOQtgXpN5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Hi. My vote: [ X ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because... The finished vote AOO in RC1 [1]. Officially Apache OpenOffice RC1? Thanks. 1 - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+%28incubating%29+Release+Candidate Best, Albino @bino28
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
On 4/21/12 8:58 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). This will be the first incubator release for Apache OpenOffice and a key milestone to continue the success of OpenOffice.org. This release candidate provides the following important key changes compared to former OpenOffice releases: (1) Code clean up to remove all copyleft components and external dependencies (2) Reworked or introduced LICENSE and NOTICE file to reflect and document the used licenses of the code itself as well as of external 3rd party libraries (3) MD5, SHA1, SHA512 hashes and GPG signatures for all of artifacts For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under https://cwiki.apache.org/OOOUSERS/aoo-34-release-notes.html. The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary releases for 16 languages) and further information how to verify and review Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) can be found on the following wiki page: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+%28incubating%29+Release+Candidate Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). The vote starts now and will be open until: UTC midnight Wednesday, 25 April: 2012-04-25 24:00 UTC. After the vote of the PPMC the vote will start on gene...@incubtor.apache.org mailing and will be open for further 72 hours. But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project members. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because... +1 I used the RC and all the dev builds before in my daily work since weeks. I have build the source tarball successful and it works as expected. Juergen
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
+1 2012/4/25 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com On 4/21/12 8:58 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). This will be the first incubator release for Apache OpenOffice and a key milestone to continue the success of OpenOffice.org. This release candidate provides the following important key changes compared to former OpenOffice releases: (1) Code clean up to remove all copyleft components and external dependencies (2) Reworked or introduced LICENSE and NOTICE file to reflect and document the used licenses of the code itself as well as of external 3rd party libraries (3) MD5, SHA1, SHA512 hashes and GPG signatures for all of artifacts For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under https://cwiki.apache.org/**OOOUSERS/aoo-34-release-notes.**htmlhttps://cwiki.apache.org/OOOUSERS/aoo-34-release-notes.html . The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary releases for 16 languages) and further information how to verify and review Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) can be found on the following wiki page: https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** AOO+3.4+%28incubating%29+**Release+Candidatehttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+%28incubating%29+Release+Candidate Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). The vote starts now and will be open until: UTC midnight Wednesday, 25 April: 2012-04-25 24:00 UTC. After the vote of the PPMC the vote will start on gene...@incubtor.apache.org mailing and will be open for further 72 hours. But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project members. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because... +1 I used the RC and all the dev builds before in my daily work since weeks. I have build the source tarball successful and it works as expected. Juergen
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Hi, +1 I have successfully build on Windows 7. I am using the RC and former developer snapshots in my daily work. Everything works fine for me. Best regards, Oliver. On 21.04.2012 02:58, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). This will be the first incubator release for Apache OpenOffice and a key milestone to continue the success of OpenOffice.org. This release candidate provides the following important key changes compared to former OpenOffice releases: (1) Code clean up to remove all copyleft components and external dependencies (2) Reworked or introduced LICENSE and NOTICE file to reflect and document the used licenses of the code itself as well as of external 3rd party libraries (3) MD5, SHA1, SHA512 hashes and GPG signatures for all of artifacts For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under https://cwiki.apache.org/OOOUSERS/aoo-34-release-notes.html. The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary releases for 16 languages) and further information how to verify and review Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) can be found on the following wiki page: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+%28incubating%29+Release+Candidate Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). The vote starts now and will be open until: UTC midnight Wednesday, 25 April: 2012-04-25 24:00 UTC. After the vote of the PPMC the vote will start on gene...@incubtor.apache.org mailing and will be open for further 72 hours. But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project members. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
+1 On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, +1 I have successfully build on Windows 7. I am using the RC and former developer snapshots in my daily work. Everything works fine for me. Best regards, Oliver. On 21.04.2012 02:58, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). This will be the first incubator release for Apache OpenOffice and a key milestone to continue the success of OpenOffice.org. This release candidate provides the following important key changes compared to former OpenOffice releases: (1) Code clean up to remove all copyleft components and external dependencies (2) Reworked or introduced LICENSE and NOTICE file to reflect and document the used licenses of the code itself as well as of external 3rd party libraries (3) MD5, SHA1, SHA512 hashes and GPG signatures for all of artifacts For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under https://cwiki.apache.org/**OOOUSERS/aoo-34-release-notes.**htmlhttps://cwiki.apache.org/OOOUSERS/aoo-34-release-notes.html . The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary releases for 16 languages) and further information how to verify and review Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) can be found on the following wiki page: https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** AOO+3.4+%28incubating%29+**Release+Candidatehttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+%28incubating%29+Release+Candidate Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). The vote starts now and will be open until: UTC midnight Wednesday, 25 April: 2012-04-25 24:00 UTC. After the vote of the PPMC the vote will start on gene...@incubtor.apache.org mailing and will be open for further 72 hours. But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project members. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
+1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) Thanks, khirano 2012/4/21 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com: Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). This will be the first incubator release for Apache OpenOffice and a key milestone to continue the success of OpenOffice.org. This release candidate provides the following important key changes compared to former OpenOffice releases: (1) Code clean up to remove all copyleft components and external dependencies (2) Reworked or introduced LICENSE and NOTICE file to reflect and document the used licenses of the code itself as well as of external 3rd party libraries (3) MD5, SHA1, SHA512 hashes and GPG signatures for all of artifacts For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under https://cwiki.apache.org/OOOUSERS/aoo-34-release-notes.html. The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary releases for 16 languages) and further information how to verify and review Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) can be found on the following wiki page: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+%28incubating%29+Release+Candidate Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). The vote starts now and will be open until: UTC midnight Wednesday, 25 April: 2012-04-25 24:00 UTC. After the vote of the PPMC the vote will start on gene...@incubtor.apache.org mailing and will be open for further 72 hours. But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project members. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because... -- khir...@apache.org Apache OpenOffice (incubating) http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Hi, +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) , build use RC in my daily work. Thanks 2012/4/21 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). This will be the first incubator release for Apache OpenOffice and a key milestone to continue the success of OpenOffice.org. This release candidate provides the following important key changes compared to former OpenOffice releases: (1) Code clean up to remove all copyleft components and external dependencies (2) Reworked or introduced LICENSE and NOTICE file to reflect and document the used licenses of the code itself as well as of external 3rd party libraries (3) MD5, SHA1, SHA512 hashes and GPG signatures for all of artifacts For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under https://cwiki.apache.org/**OOOUSERS/aoo-34-release-notes.**htmlhttps://cwiki.apache.org/OOOUSERS/aoo-34-release-notes.html . The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary releases for 16 languages) and further information how to verify and review Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) can be found on the following wiki page: https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** AOO+3.4+%28incubating%29+**Release+Candidatehttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+%28incubating%29+Release+Candidate Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). The vote starts now and will be open until: UTC midnight Wednesday, 25 April: 2012-04-25 24:00 UTC. After the vote of the PPMC the vote will start on gene...@incubtor.apache.org mailing and will be open for further 72 hours. But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project members. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Hi, me too. +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) From: ZuoJun Chen zjchen...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1 Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 11:35:22 +0800 Hi, +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) , build use RC in my daily work. Thanks 2012/4/21 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). This will be the first incubator release for Apache OpenOffice and a key milestone to continue the success of OpenOffice.org. This release candidate provides the following important key changes compared to former OpenOffice releases: (1) Code clean up to remove all copyleft components and external dependencies (2) Reworked or introduced LICENSE and NOTICE file to reflect and document the used licenses of the code itself as well as of external 3rd party libraries (3) MD5, SHA1, SHA512 hashes and GPG signatures for all of artifacts For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under https://cwiki.apache.org/**OOOUSERS/aoo-34-release-notes.**htmlhttps://cwiki.apache.org/OOOUSERS/aoo-34-release-notes.html . The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary releases for 16 languages) and further information how to verify and review Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) can be found on the following wiki page: https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** AOO+3.4+%28incubating%29+**Release+Candidatehttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+%28incubating%29+Release+Candidate Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). The vote starts now and will be open until: UTC midnight Wednesday, 25 April: 2012-04-25 24:00 UTC. After the vote of the PPMC the vote will start on gene...@incubtor.apache.org mailing and will be open for further 72 hours. But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project members. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
El día 21 de abril de 2012 02:58, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com escribió: Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). This will be the first incubator release for Apache OpenOffice and a key milestone to continue the success of OpenOffice.org. This release candidate provides the following important key changes compared to former OpenOffice releases: (1) Code clean up to remove all copyleft components and external dependencies (2) Reworked or introduced LICENSE and NOTICE file to reflect and document the used licenses of the code itself as well as of external 3rd party libraries (3) MD5, SHA1, SHA512 hashes and GPG signatures for all of artifacts For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under https://cwiki.apache.org/OOOUSERS/aoo-34-release-notes.html. The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary releases for 16 languages) and further information how to verify and review Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) can be found on the following wiki page: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+%28incubating%29+Release+Candidate Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). The vote starts now and will be open until: UTC midnight Wednesday, 25 April: 2012-04-25 24:00 UTC. After the vote of the PPMC the vote will start on gene...@incubtor.apache.org mailing and will be open for further 72 hours. But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project members. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because... +1 (PPMC rgb-es at apache) [Ok, third time should be the good one... second mental note: do not try to fix your own errors at 2 AM... I did not realize that the original mail was for Private with ooo-dev just as CC. Sorry for the noise]
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
2012.04.21. 2:58 keltezéssel, Jürgen Schmidt írta: Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). This will be the first incubator release for Apache OpenOffice and a key milestone to continue the success of OpenOffice.org. This release candidate provides the following important key changes compared to former OpenOffice releases: (1) Code clean up to remove all copyleft components and external dependencies (2) Reworked or introduced LICENSE and NOTICE file to reflect and document the used licenses of the code itself as well as of external 3rd party libraries (3) MD5, SHA1, SHA512 hashes and GPG signatures for all of artifacts For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under https://cwiki.apache.org/OOOUSERS/aoo-34-release-notes.html. The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary releases for 16 languages) and further information how to verify and review Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) can be found on the following wiki page: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+%28incubating%29+Release+Candidate Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). The vote starts now and will be open until: UTC midnight Wednesday, 25 April: 2012-04-25 24:00 UTC. After the vote of the PPMC the vote will start on gene...@incubtor.apache.org mailing and will be open for further 72 hours. But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project members. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because... +1 (PPMC) Zoltan
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
+1 PPMC non-binding. On Friday, April 20, 2012, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). This will be the first incubator release for Apache OpenOffice and a key milestone to continue the success of OpenOffice.org. This release candidate provides the following important key changes compared to former OpenOffice releases: (1) Code clean up to remove all copyleft components and external dependencies (2) Reworked or introduced LICENSE and NOTICE file to reflect and document the used licenses of the code itself as well as of external 3rd party libraries (3) MD5, SHA1, SHA512 hashes and GPG signatures for all of artifacts For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under https://cwiki.apache.org/**OOOUSERS/aoo-34-release-notes.**htmlhttps://cwiki.apache.org/OOOUSERS/aoo-34-release-notes.html . The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary releases for 16 languages) and further information how to verify and review Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) can be found on the following wiki page: https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** AOO+3.4+%28incubating%29+**Release+Candidatehttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+%28incubating%29+Release+Candidate Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). The vote starts now and will be open until: UTC midnight Wednesday, 25 April: 2012-04-25 24:00 UTC. After the vote of the PPMC the vote will start on gene...@incubtor.apache.org mailing and will be open for further 72 hours. But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project members. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Hi, the MD5SUM of the German Windows installation set does not fit to the MD5SUM stored at http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo34-rc/rc1/windows/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_de.exe.md5 C:\downloadsmore Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_de.exe.md5 50736c277e68191319e4983e6501f672 Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_de.exe http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo34-rc/rc1/windows/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_de.exe C:\downloadsmd5sum Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_de.exe 97737bc50d8a184b8be408a47d12acd7 *Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_de.exe Kind regards, Joost
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Hi, seems to be fine after the download has been initiated using wget. Sorry for the confusion... the MD5SUM of the German Windows installation set does not fit to the MD5SUM stored at http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo34-rc/rc1/windows/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_de.exe.md5 Kind regards, Joost
Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Hi. 2012/4/22 Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com Hi 2012/4/22 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org: Blog post: http://www.escritoriolivre.org/artigo/extens%C3%B5es-no-apache-openoffice This is Luiz, our old OOo/BrOo user group leader in Brazil. snip And how we haven't a brazilian portuguese list here, i started the work (localization and some tests) in this site, our brazilian comunity seed. /snip Yes! The Claudio started the work (localization and some tests), our brazilian comunity. :) I was inspired by him. Best, Claudio The tests is successfully. :) Best, Albino @bino28
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
On 23/04/2012 Joost Andrae wrote: the installation wipes-out OOo 3.3 although I installed it into a different directory. We had the same report in Italian tests, but we considered it normal (a stable version will remove the older version, and anyway removing 3.4 to go back to 3.3 will leave you with broken extensions, namely non-working dictionaries). The download page should at least mention that this installation set will replace a former installation of OpenOffice.org 3. This is a good suggestion. Regards, Andrea.
[DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
On Monday, 23. April 2012 at 21:54, Joost Andrae wrote: Hi, the installation wipes-out OOo 3.3 although I installed it into a different directory. I had to deactivate Norton Sonar for the setup.exe file because it quarantained setup.exe due to excecution of a second thread within the binary (probably the vcredist file). This will most probably happen to most of the Windows users who use an anti virus solution. Maybe this will not happen if the binary is signed (rant...). probably and will hopefully change in the near future. Setup wants to install into program dir\OpenOffice.org 3\ directory. In my opinion the directory should be program dir\Apache OpenOffice 3\ because it's name changed in the meantime. No not at this time, it was discussed several times on the list before. We decided to move this change to the next release. We own both names and we simply continue the OOo story ... For the next version we will do a full renaming and then people will know that AOO is the continuation of OOo. The download page should at least mention that this installation set will replace a former installation of OpenOffice.org 3. What do you think people will expect when they download the software from downloads.openoffice.org? When you know the answer you will have probably the answer to your suggestion ;-) Juergen I had a short look at the binary on my 2.8 GHz dual core dual graphics 13 notebook with 8 GB memory and 512 GB SSD where I rerouted all temporary and page files to a second SSD. For me the application seems to be stable enough to ship it. I found no problems related to load/save or import/export functionality so far. Configuring Java is still tricky. Extensions are still functioning fine. All modules started well. Armin's GSL work looks amazing! Bravo for this! Within the German help index there are some broken strings. just my 2 € Cents... Kind regards, Joost
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Joost Andrae joost.and...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, the installation wipes-out OOo 3.3 although I installed it into a different directory. I had to deactivate Norton Sonar for the setup.exe file because it quarantained setup.exe due to excecution of a second thread within the binary (probably the vcredist file). This will most probably happen to most of the Windows users who use an anti virus solution. Maybe this will not happen if the binary is signed (rant...). This should fix itself over time. Norton is looking at several risk factors. Two of them are how old the file is and how many other Norton customers have also installed it. A three-day old file that no one else has installed is going to look risky. We can also request that our installer be whitelisted by Symantec, once we have an approved release: https://submit.symantec.com/whitelist/isv/new/ But note that this would need to be done for every language, since the file names and hashes are different. -Rob Setup wants to install into program dir\OpenOffice.org 3\ directory. In my opinion the directory should be program dir\Apache OpenOffice 3\ because it's name changed in the meantime. The download page should at least mention that this installation set will replace a former installation of OpenOffice.org 3. I had a short look at the binary on my 2.8 GHz dual core dual graphics 13 notebook with 8 GB memory and 512 GB SSD where I rerouted all temporary and page files to a second SSD. For me the application seems to be stable enough to ship it. I found no problems related to load/save or import/export functionality so far. Configuring Java is still tricky. Extensions are still functioning fine. All modules started well. Armin's GSL work looks amazing! Bravo for this! Within the German help index there are some broken strings. just my 2 € Cents... Kind regards, Joost
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
+1 (PPMC, binding) and ditto Pedro's and Rob's comments on we should be proud. I installed and ran some tests with the 32-bit Linux RPM binary. I had been using a developer build since Apr 4 (can't note the svn release number at the moment), and things were looking pretty good then to me. Today, when I tried to do an update to that, I did run into a few issues and had to un-install the Apr 4 version and clean install this newer version. However, I think this situation may have been due an initial installation problem with that older 3.4 install. I will document my perceptions on openSUSE in the revised installation instructions and hopefully some of the other Linux folks and I can work on what's what with the install. It's wonderful to see the outcome of all this work come to a successful conclusion. On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Joost Andrae joost.and...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, the installation wipes-out OOo 3.3 although I installed it into a different directory. I had to deactivate Norton Sonar for the setup.exe file because it quarantained setup.exe due to excecution of a second thread within the binary (probably the vcredist file). This will most probably happen to most of the Windows users who use an anti virus solution. Maybe this will not happen if the binary is signed (rant...). This should fix itself over time. Norton is looking at several risk factors. Two of them are how old the file is and how many other Norton customers have also installed it. A three-day old file that no one else has installed is going to look risky. We can also request that our installer be whitelisted by Symantec, once we have an approved release: https://submit.symantec.com/whitelist/isv/new/ But note that this would need to be done for every language, since the file names and hashes are different. -Rob Setup wants to install into program dir\OpenOffice.org 3\ directory. In my opinion the directory should be program dir\Apache OpenOffice 3\ because it's name changed in the meantime. The download page should at least mention that this installation set will replace a former installation of OpenOffice.org 3. I had a short look at the binary on my 2.8 GHz dual core dual graphics 13 notebook with 8 GB memory and 512 GB SSD where I rerouted all temporary and page files to a second SSD. For me the application seems to be stable enough to ship it. I found no problems related to load/save or import/export functionality so far. Configuring Java is still tricky. Extensions are still functioning fine. All modules started well. Armin's GSL work looks amazing! Bravo for this! Within the German help index there are some broken strings. just my 2 € Cents... Kind regards, Joost -- MzK Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea. -- Robert Heinlein
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
+1 -- Bye, Yuri Dario /* * OS/2 open source software * http://web.os2power.com/yuri * http://www.netlabs.org */
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
I downloaded a Mac image from http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo34-rc/rc1/macos/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg; and ran it on Mac OS X 10.6.8. I tried to open my docuemnts(odt / odp / ods), edit them and saved them. AOO3.4 works well. So I vote +1. Thanks! 2012/4/21 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). This will be the first incubator release for Apache OpenOffice and a key milestone to continue the success of OpenOffice.org. This release candidate provides the following important key changes compared to former OpenOffice releases: (1) Code clean up to remove all copyleft components and external dependencies (2) Reworked or introduced LICENSE and NOTICE file to reflect and document the used licenses of the code itself as well as of external 3rd party libraries (3) MD5, SHA1, SHA512 hashes and GPG signatures for all of artifacts For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under https://cwiki.apache.org/**OOOUSERS/aoo-34-release-notes.**htmlhttps://cwiki.apache.org/OOOUSERS/aoo-34-release-notes.html . The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary releases for 16 languages) and further information how to verify and review Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) can be found on the following wiki page: https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** AOO+3.4+%28incubating%29+**Release+Candidatehttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+%28incubating%29+Release+Candidate Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). The vote starts now and will be open until: UTC midnight Wednesday, 25 April: 2012-04-25 24:00 UTC. After the vote of the PPMC the vote will start on gene...@incubtor.apache.org mailing and will be open for further 72 hours. But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project members. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because... -- Best regards, Chao Huang
Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: snip OK, I have a question on this one. MUST we download and build or can we vote on an already built (binary) version? There was some discussion about this, and, yes, there are notes about this on general information for Apache releases, but...I jsut noticed the vote from Hagar Delest which implies he used a binary so this is why I ask. You are not required to build the AOO RC in order to vote. Remember, participating in the review and approval of releases is one of the most basic responsibilities of *all* PMC members. We have selected PMC members with a wide range of relevant skills, not all of them are coders. So not everyone is expected to build. But I would expect that everyone who votes will find something that they can do to help verify the RC. For example, installing, verifying a translation, reviewing the LICENSE and NOTICE file, reviewing the RAT scan output, etc. Remember, unlike a much smaller project at Apache, we cannot assume that there is even a single person who understands all aspects of the product. Not even one. Those who can build on Windows might not be the same ones who can verify the Gallacian translation, and those who understand the details of the LICENSE requirements might not have access to a 64-bit Linux machine to test that install. So we need to rely on others. So, a +1 to me means three things: 1) I have verified what I can verify and it looks acceptable for a release. 2) No one else has reported a credible, substantial issue with the RC. 3) I believe that there has been sufficient overall review of the RC. So obviously my vote can change based on what others find and report about the RC. In particular I plan to test a few install scenarios and if they work out, I'll vote +1 later today. But if someone later finds a serious issue, then I could change my vote. -Rob
Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
+1 (PPMC) On 22 April 2012 00:01, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net wrote: +1 (PPMC) NB: installed the 64bit DEB on Ubuntu 11.10, no problem for the moment. Thanks for this code release! Hagar Le Sat, 21 Apr 2012 08:58:24 +0800, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com a écrit : Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). This will be the first incubator release for Apache OpenOffice and a key milestone to continue the success of OpenOffice.org. This release candidate provides the following important key changes compared to former OpenOffice releases: (1) Code clean up to remove all copyleft components and external dependencies (2) Reworked or introduced LICENSE and NOTICE file to reflect and document the used licenses of the code itself as well as of external 3rd party libraries (3) MD5, SHA1, SHA512 hashes and GPG signatures for all of artifacts For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under https://cwiki.apache.org/**OOOUSERS/aoo-34-release-notes.**htmlhttps://cwiki.apache.org/OOOUSERS/aoo-34-release-notes.html . The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary releases for 16 languages) and further information how to verify and review Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) can be found on the following wiki page: https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** AOO+3.4+%28incubating%29+**Release+Candidatehttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+%28incubating%29+Release+Candidate Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating). The vote starts now and will be open until: UTC midnight Wednesday, 25 April: 2012-04-25 24:00 UTC. After the vote of the PPMC the vote will start on gene...@incubtor.apache.org mailing and will be open for further 72 hours. But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project members. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because... -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications (The Schools ITQ) www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales.
Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
El día 22 de abril de 2012 16:51, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org escribió: On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: snip OK, I have a question on this one. MUST we download and build or can we vote on an already built (binary) version? There was some discussion about this, and, yes, there are notes about this on general information for Apache releases, but...I jsut noticed the vote from Hagar Delest which implies he used a binary so this is why I ask. You are not required to build the AOO RC in order to vote. Remember, participating in the review and approval of releases is one of the most basic responsibilities of *all* PMC members. We have selected PMC members with a wide range of relevant skills, not all of them are coders. So not everyone is expected to build. But I would expect that everyone who votes will find something that they can do to help verify the RC. For example, installing, verifying a translation, reviewing the LICENSE and NOTICE file, reviewing the RAT scan output, etc. Remember, unlike a much smaller project at Apache, we cannot assume that there is even a single person who understands all aspects of the product. Not even one. Those who can build on Windows might not be the same ones who can verify the Gallacian translation, and those who understand the details of the LICENSE requirements might not have access to a 64-bit Linux machine to test that install. So we need to rely on others. So, a +1 to me means three things: 1) I have verified what I can verify and it looks acceptable for a release. 2) No one else has reported a credible, substantial issue with the RC. 3) I believe that there has been sufficient overall review of the RC. So obviously my vote can change based on what others find and report about the RC. In particular I plan to test a few install scenarios and if they work out, I'll vote +1 later today. But if someone later finds a serious issue, then I could change my vote. -Rob Thanks Rob for the clarification (I had the same doubt expressed by Kay Schenk). I installed and used the build on my openSUSE 11.4, 64 bits box without problems so this is a huge +1 from me (PPMC member: rgb-es @ apache) Regards Ricardo
Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
On 04/22/2012 08:05 AM, RGB ES wrote: El d�a 22 de abril de 2012 16:51, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org escribi�: On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: snip OK, I have a question on this one. MUST we download and build or can we vote on an already built (binary) version? There was some discussion about this, and, yes, there are notes about this on general information for Apache releases, but...I jsut noticed the vote from Hagar Delest which implies he used a binary so this is why I ask. You are not required to build the AOO RC in order to vote. � Remember, participating in the review and approval of releases is one of the most basic responsibilities of *all* PMC members. � We have selected PMC members with a wide range of relevant skills, not all of them are coders. �So not everyone is expected to build. �But I would expect that everyone who votes will find something that they can do to help verify the RC. � For example, installing, verifying a translation, reviewing the LICENSE and NOTICE file, reviewing the RAT scan output, etc. Remember, unlike a much smaller project at Apache, we cannot assume that there is even a single person who understands all aspects of the product. �Not even one. �Those who can build on Windows might not be the same ones who can verify the Gallacian translation, and those who understand the details of the LICENSE requirements might not have access to a 64-bit Linux machine to test that install. �So we need to rely on others. So, a +1 to me means three things: 1) I have verified what I can verify and it looks acceptable for a release. 2) No one else has reported a credible, substantial issue with the RC. 3) I believe that there has been sufficient overall review of the RC. So obviously my vote can change based on what others find and report about the RC. �In particular I plan to test a few install scenarios and if they work out, I'll vote +1 later today. �But if someone later finds a serious issue, then I could change my vote. -Rob Thanks Rob for the clarification (I had the same doubt expressed by Kay Schenk). I installed and used the build on my openSUSE 11.4, 64 bits box without problems so this is a huge +1 from me (PPMC member: rgb-es @ apache) Regards Ricardo Yes, Rob, thanks for this clarification. I am relatively confident I could, in fact, build AOO 3.4 having done such things many times in the past, but it would definitely take time away from other things I need to be doing to get ready for our release. -- MzK Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea. -- Robert Heinlein
