Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages
Matt; I'm just wondering what the standard procedure for keeping my system up to date it as I've so far been unable to find this info myself. Did you try pkg refresh --full pkg image-update -v to get that job done? Or isn't that what you want/need? Cheers, Kristian -- Kristian Rink * http://zimmer428.net * http://flickr.com/photos/z428/ jab: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * icq: 48874445 * fon: ++49 176 2447 2771 One dreaming alone, it will be only a dream; many dreaming together is the beginning of a new reality. (Hundertwasser) ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kristian Rink wrote: | Matt; | | I'm just wondering what the standard procedure for keeping my system up | to date it as I've so far been unable to find this info myself. | | Did you try | | pkg refresh --full | pkg image-update -v | | to get that job done? Or isn't that what you want/need? Thanks for the reply I have tried that, unfortunately the pkg command isn't on this system and it was installed with the most complete package selection. This is the problem I've had, everything I can find on google or the list archives refers me back to the pkg command, which I can't find. - -- Matt Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mattharrison.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAkhjSVwACgkQxNZfa+YAUWHSbACfelpOK2wV0Y3/GyzbuUMTj0gI 4m4An3hrPUvnZPsNCdFSGvXs87Y6IQYE =FjKa -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages
Matt Harrison schrieb: I have tried that, unfortunately the pkg command isn't on this system and it was installed with the most complete package selection. This is the problem I've had, everything I can find on google or the list archives refers me back to the pkg command, which I can't find. H, what kind of installation medium did you initially use to install OpenSolaris from? IIRC the IPS facility (and thus the pkg command) was/is just included in more recent OpenSolaris builds, especially the Indiana TPs and OS 2008.05... Maybe your installation just was too old to already have this tools included? Cheers, Kristian -- Kristian Rink * http://zimmer428.net * http://flickr.com/photos/z428/ jab: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * icq: 48874445 * fon: ++49 176 2447 2771 One dreaming alone, it will be only a dream; many dreaming together is the beginning of a new reality. (Hundertwasser) ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kristian Rink wrote: | Matt Harrison schrieb: | I have tried that, unfortunately the pkg command isn't on this system | and it was installed with the most complete package selection. | | This is the problem I've had, everything I can find on google or the | list archives refers me back to the pkg command, which I can't find. | | H, what kind of installation medium did you initially use to install | OpenSolaris from? IIRC the IPS facility (and thus the pkg command) | was/is just included in more recent OpenSolaris builds, especially the | Indiana TPs and OS 2008.05... Maybe your installation just was too old | to already have this tools included? This machine was installed from an svn_89 dvd image that I downloaded from the opensolaris.org site. I've got an svn_91 image here as well, maybe its included on that? - -- Matt Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mattharrison.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAkhjTVwACgkQxNZfa+YAUWHBqQCeMb1enf6GYrb0RJCKpXmZ1CHi ccQAn0nmPFPBVj+ylifBN2/00GzNHrns =UQvc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages
Matt Harrison schrieb: This machine was installed from an svn_89 dvd image that I downloaded from the opensolaris.org site. I've got an svn_91 image here as well, maybe its included on that? For how I read [1], the IPS facility so far is solely included in the OpenSolaris OS 2008.05 ISOs which, in turns, are CD images so given you use an installation DVD, I assume you do have either the Solaris Express Community or Developer Edition at hand which obviously doesn't so far have it. But I haven't tested it with any of these media so your mileage might vary, maybe someone else knows better than me. :) Cheers, Kristian [1] http://developers.sun.com/sxde/ -- Kristian Rink * http://zimmer428.net * http://flickr.com/photos/z428/ jab: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * icq: 48874445 * fon: ++49 176 2447 2771 One dreaming alone, it will be only a dream; many dreaming together is the beginning of a new reality. (Hundertwasser) ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages
Hi, I read that as meaning he had Nevada builds (snv, not svn) - probably the Community or Developer releases, as you say - which are based on the System V pkgadd format, and as you say come on DVD. OpenSolaris as a source idea, similar to Solaris 10 and the earlier commercial releases. The pkg command works with the new OpenSolaris as a distribution idea, using the new IPS/pkg format, which is quite different. Until 2008.05 came out, I was running Nevada on both my laptop and my Ultra 20. I now have OpenSolaris (the distro) on my laptop and Nevada on my Ultra 20, mostly to be able to compare, but OpenSolaris is so much nicer, that wont last for long. When Sun (for whom I work) decided on using the OpenSolaris for our own distribution, as well as for the source code release, this kind of confusion was bound to happen =O( Matt, to upgrade Nevada to another Nevada build, you boot the DVD and select Upgrade from the menu system there. It's well tested. Or you can build a network upgrade system. Or you can back up all your data, do a fresh install from an OpenSolaris 2008.xx CD, copy your data back, and move on with ZFS boot, better boot environment management, and pkg. That was fairly painless for me. pkg is then your means of further upgrades, but that isn't quite as painless yet. You do however get a ZFS snapshot of the old system to go back to if it messes up, right there in your grub menu automatically, so it's not a disaster, either. And so far people have had only small problems with such upgrades (see the forums). Ta, Mark. Kristian Rink wrote: Matt Harrison schrieb: This machine was installed from an svn_89 dvd image that I downloaded from the opensolaris.org site. I've got an svn_91 image here as well, maybe its included on that? For how I read [1], the IPS facility so far is solely included in the OpenSolaris OS 2008.05 ISOs which, in turns, are CD images so given you use an installation DVD, I assume you do have either the Solaris Express Community or Developer Edition at hand which obviously doesn't so far have it. But I haven't tested it with any of these media so your mileage might vary, maybe someone else knows better than me. :) ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages
Matt Harrison wrote: Kristian Rink wrote: | H, what kind of installation medium did you initially use to install | OpenSolaris from? IIRC the IPS facility (and thus the pkg command) | was/is just included in more recent OpenSolaris builds, especially the | Indiana TPs and OS 2008.05... Maybe your installation just was too old | to already have this tools included? This machine was installed from an svn_89 dvd image that I downloaded from the opensolaris.org site. I've got an svn_91 image here as well, maybe its included on that? The pkg commands are only on OpenSolaris, e.g, the 2008.05 release. snv_89 or _91 is the classic Solaris version instead, so no pkg commands. There's also no updatemanager, since this is for patches on a released OS such as Solaris 10, not Nevada. Instead, for snv_91, you're *supposed* to be able to either: - boot from a DVD of the snv_91 image and select an upgrade install. This may fail though if it thinks your system is not upgradable for whatever reason (which it may not explain). Such as low disk space, corrupted package DB, for example. - or you can use live upgrade while the old OS is running. So I can't explain why the upgrade fails. Maybe ask on the install-discuss mailing list, or opensolaris-help? But the pkg command is definitely not going to work to upgrade snv_*. Hugh. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages
Mark; thanks for the clarification on that. :) Mark R. Bowyer schrieb: Until 2008.05 came out, I was running Nevada on both my laptop and my Ultra 20. I now have OpenSolaris (the distro) on my laptop and Nevada on my Ultra 20, mostly to be able to compare, but OpenSolaris is so much nicer, that wont last for long. I can imagine. :) Comin' from Ubuntu 8.04, I found OS 2008.05 a rather pleasant experience, the only killer thing I'd love to see though would be a better GUI integration for some of the essential OpenSolaris features (/me dreamin' of a time-machine-like nautilus integration of zfs snapshots... ;) ). Will these OpenSolaris features, however, make it to Nevada one day or will OS (as a distribution) and Nevada (and its successors) always remain two completely different shoes? Cheers, Kristian -- Kristian Rink * http://zimmer428.net * http://flickr.com/photos/z428/ jab: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * icq: 48874445 * fon: ++49 176 2447 2771 One dreaming alone, it will be only a dream; many dreaming together is the beginning of a new reality. (Hundertwasser) ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages
Hi, Kristian Rink wrote: Mark; thanks for the clarification on that. :) Mark R. Bowyer schrieb: Until 2008.05 came out, I was running Nevada on both my laptop and my Ultra 20. I now have OpenSolaris (the distro) on my laptop and Nevada on my Ultra 20, mostly to be able to compare, but OpenSolaris is so much nicer, that wont last for long. I can imagine. :) Comin' from Ubuntu 8.04, I found OS 2008.05 a rather pleasant experience, the only killer thing I'd love to see though would be a better GUI integration for some of the essential OpenSolaris features (/me dreamin' of a time-machine-like nautilus integration of zfs snapshots... ;) ). Will these OpenSolaris features, however, make it to Nevada one day or will OS (as a distribution) and Nevada (and its successors) always remain two completely different shoes? I'm not really in the right bit of Sun to answer that. My understanding is that Solaris Next will look a lot more like OpenSolaris than it looks like Solaris 10 right now, though. For instance I believe the packaging system will be the new pkg, rather than the old pkgadd. In the longer term, I think the idea is for OpenSolaris to be the bleeding edge, and every now and again a build is taken and badged as a Solaris release, with all the extra testing and baggage that entails. The commercial Solaris releases have to provide a level of compatibility that doesn't really merge well with the Open Source ideal, however. Solaris 10 is sticking with the versions of Gnome and other libraries it initially shipped with to ensure binary and source compatibility, and any required bug fixes are ported back to that. And if you were an ISV, paying to test your software on every release you supported, that's what you'd want. The few Nevada projects that have been back-ported to Solaris 10 Updates have been well received by most, but have also caused some unforeseen pain for others, as interfaces have had to be changed in small ways to implement them. Sun don't seem to plan to risk that again, and so we'll need a Solaris Next release fairly soon to allow all this fantastic work out to the customers who demand the full Solaris platform, with all the support and compatibility guarantees that entails. That is after all one of the main things Solaris has over Linux, beyond the technology. Until recently my old SunOS binary of Mozaic 0.9 beta still ran on a Solaris system, although it's ability to render pages became less and less useful ;O). Try running a 10 year old binary on a current Linux system. And yes to the Time Machine like interface to ZFS Snapshots - I'd love to see that too. In fact when I first saw a Time Machine demo (and I type this on an iMac) my first thought was that it *had* to be based on ZFS Snapshoting, and was really disappointed to see how ugly it is under the hood. And how unreliable it's been until the latest update. Although I have had to do a complete reinstall through it once already, and it worked brilliantly =O) But now - this being OpenSolaris - there is absolutely nothing to stop you writing such a thing yourself ;O) Ta, Mark. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages
Hi; Mark R. Bowyer schrieb: [...] I'm not really in the right bit of Sun to answer that. My understanding is that Solaris Next will look a lot more like OpenSolaris than it looks like Solaris 10 right now, though. For instance I believe the packaging system will be the new pkg, rather than the old pkgadd. This in my opinion does raise interesting questions, most important in my opinion whether Sun will or will not have power / resources to permanently keep a sane IPS repository up and running? So far, comparing to, say, Ubuntu or Debian, the IPS repositories available to OpenSolaris users are somewhat small to say the very least... ;) Solaris 10 is sticking with the versions of Gnome and other libraries it initially shipped with to ensure binary and source compatibility, and any required bug fixes are ported back to that. And if you were an ISV, paying to test your software on every release you supported, that's what you'd want. Agreed without second thought. Us being lucky enough to just have Java applications based upon any of these platforms (Linux, Solaris), we couldn't care less... :] Nevertheless still I am into preparing our next server deployment for glassfish to be either OpenSolaris or Solaris 10, haven't yet made up my mind which one to go for. :) [...] again, and so we'll need a Solaris Next release fairly soon to allow all this fantastic work out to the customers who demand the full Solaris platform, with all the support and compatibility guarantees that entails. Won't commercially-supported OpenSolaris, possibly following a release / lifetime scheme like Ubuntu, be a way outta here? That is after all one of the main things Solaris has over Linux, beyond the technology. Until recently my old SunOS binary of Mozaic 0.9 beta still ran on a Solaris system, although it's ability to render pages became less and less useful ;O). Try running a 10 year old binary on a current Linux system. Out of nostalgia I actually once in a while lean back having a glass of red wine browsing the web using an ancient Netscape Communicator on Linux. But I guess static builds don't count here. ;) And how unreliable it's been until the latest update. Although I have had to do a complete reinstall through it once already, and it worked brilliantly =O) Yes I also enjoyed the idea in terms of features, but, honestly, I just dislike the UI which in my opinion is a little too much effect bashing to be seriously used... ZFS snapshots, so far, are less spectacular but overally seemingly way more effective. But now - this being OpenSolaris - there is absolutely nothing to stop you writing such a thing yourself ;O) There is something stopping me, actually two things: Time and experience. ;) Maybe being a Java developer in first instance, this is not the right kind of tool to create a nautilus addon. However I consider these things interesting for OpenSolaris, as so far, from a desktop users point of view, OS 2008.05 has little new / specific to offer... :( Cheers, Kristian -- Kristian Rink * http://zimmer428.net * http://flickr.com/photos/z428/ jab: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * icq: 48874445 * fon: ++49 176 2447 2771 One dreaming alone, it will be only a dream; many dreaming together is the beginning of a new reality. (Hundertwasser) ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages
Hi, Keep in mind that right now OpenSolaris is quite new. IPS is completely new, and still being developed. Give us some time =O) I hope that support for OpenSolaris will get a proper, commercial grade support structure in the future. I may even be one of the people responsible for supplying the support (I do developer and OEM support now). But I don't think we're ready for that yet. Speaking totally as me and not Sun here, of course. Installing and using OpenSolaris was a revelation for me, after years of using the Solaris installer to upgrade to new beta builds every two weeks. I'd played with other Linux releases, worked with our own JDS Linux for a while, and nothing I'd ever seen before matched the ease of install I saw there. And the first time I used pkg to upgrade and saw I had a backup BE added to my grub menu automatically, backed by a ZFS snapshot... I was grinning and showing colleagues for ages after, and have convinced some to switch their laptops to it. But it's still fairly new. Give the guys building it time. Ta, Mark. Kristian Rink wrote: Hi; Mark R. Bowyer schrieb: [...] I'm not really in the right bit of Sun to answer that. My understanding is that Solaris Next will look a lot more like OpenSolaris than it looks like Solaris 10 right now, though. For instance I believe the packaging system will be the new pkg, rather than the old pkgadd. This in my opinion does raise interesting questions, most important in my opinion whether Sun will or will not have power / resources to permanently keep a sane IPS repository up and running? So far, comparing to, say, Ubuntu or Debian, the IPS repositories available to OpenSolaris users are somewhat small to say the very least... ;) Solaris 10 is sticking with the versions of Gnome and other libraries it initially shipped with to ensure binary and source compatibility, and any required bug fixes are ported back to that. And if you were an ISV, paying to test your software on every release you supported, that's what you'd want. Agreed without second thought. Us being lucky enough to just have Java applications based upon any of these platforms (Linux, Solaris), we couldn't care less... :] Nevertheless still I am into preparing our next server deployment for glassfish to be either OpenSolaris or Solaris 10, haven't yet made up my mind which one to go for. :) [...] again, and so we'll need a Solaris Next release fairly soon to allow all this fantastic work out to the customers who demand the full Solaris platform, with all the support and compatibility guarantees that entails. Won't commercially-supported OpenSolaris, possibly following a release / lifetime scheme like Ubuntu, be a way outta here? That is after all one of the main things Solaris has over Linux, beyond the technology. Until recently my old SunOS binary of Mozaic 0.9 beta still ran on a Solaris system, although it's ability to render pages became less and less useful ;O). Try running a 10 year old binary on a current Linux system. Out of nostalgia I actually once in a while lean back having a glass of red wine browsing the web using an ancient Netscape Communicator on Linux. But I guess static builds don't count here. ;) And how unreliable it's been until the latest update. Although I have had to do a complete reinstall through it once already, and it worked brilliantly =O) Yes I also enjoyed the idea in terms of features, but, honestly, I just dislike the UI which in my opinion is a little too much effect bashing to be seriously used... ZFS snapshots, so far, are less spectacular but overally seemingly way more effective. But now - this being OpenSolaris - there is absolutely nothing to stop you writing such a thing yourself ;O) There is something stopping me, actually two things: Time and experience. ;) Maybe being a Java developer in first instance, this is not the right kind of tool to create a nautilus addon. However I consider these things interesting for OpenSolaris, as so far, from a desktop users point of view, OS 2008.05 has little new / specific to offer... :( Cheers, Kristian ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages
Hi Mark; Mark R. Bowyer schrieb: Keep in mind that right now OpenSolaris is quite new. IPS is completely new, and still being developed. Give us some time =O) sure, no problem. :) That's why I actually consider OpenSolaris worth supporting - it's a project filled with potential and interesting ideas, needing just some time to mature and grow. After switching from Windows(95...) to Linux, things were more or likely like this, but one seems quickly to get to the point considering staying with Linux the more safe alternative because, there, things simply work. If it wasn't for people switching _despite_ some restrictions appearing after they did, Linux would possibly never have made it to where, say, Ubuntu is now. Looking at the potential I think OpenSolaris is not likely to fail because it offered nothing of interest, but I sincerely hope the project also will not fail simply due to lack of a vivid community in- and outside Sun... I hope that support for OpenSolaris will get a proper, commercial grade support structure in the future. I may even be one of the people responsible for supplying the support (I do developer and OEM support now). We might even buy, I guess. ;) install I saw there. And the first time I used pkg to upgrade and saw I had a backup BE added to my grub menu automatically, backed by a ZFS snapshot... I was grinning and showing colleagues for ages after, and have convinced some to switch their laptops to it. Given that however, I figured out that using Solaris on laptops (especially on mine) has just become fun some time next to OS 2008.05 release, leaving only my audio the only thing missing. Asides this, well, comin' from Ubuntu, neither installation nor upgrade really were much of a surprise to me. Felt a little frustrated seeing how long pkg image-update (or even pkg install pkg) took getting something done, I wondered why the guys didn't just simply use .deb as packaging format... to the very moment until I saw my disk running full, until I discovered about the zfs snapshots created during upgrade, about the ability to boot an older snapshot if something failed... and until I learnt that right this is what I want doing upgrades on any more important machine without putting all my system at risk. From that point of view, things made sense again, so I guess people are doing a rather great job already... :) Cheers, Kristian -- Kristian Rink * http://zimmer428.net * http://flickr.com/photos/z428/ jab: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * icq: 48874445 * fon: ++49 176 2447 2771 One dreaming alone, it will be only a dream; many dreaming together is the beginning of a new reality. (Hundertwasser) ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hugh McIntyre wrote: | Matt Harrison wrote: | | Kristian Rink wrote: | | H, what kind of installation medium did you initially use to | install | | OpenSolaris from? IIRC the IPS facility (and thus the pkg command) | | was/is just included in more recent OpenSolaris builds, especially the | | Indiana TPs and OS 2008.05... Maybe your installation just was too | old | | to already have this tools included? | | This machine was installed from an svn_89 dvd image that I downloaded | from the opensolaris.org site. I've got an svn_91 image here as well, | maybe its included on that? | | The pkg commands are only on OpenSolaris, e.g, the 2008.05 release. | | snv_89 or _91 is the classic Solaris version instead, so no pkg | commands. There's also no updatemanager, since this is for patches on | a released OS such as Solaris 10, not Nevada. Instead, for snv_91, | you're *supposed* to be able to either: | | - boot from a DVD of the snv_91 image and select an upgrade install. | This may fail though if it thinks your system is not upgradable for | whatever reason (which it may not explain). Such as low disk space, | corrupted package DB, for example. | | - or you can use live upgrade while the old OS is running. | | So I can't explain why the upgrade fails. Maybe ask on the | install-discuss mailing list, or opensolaris-help? But the pkg | command is definitely not going to work to upgrade snv_*. | | Hugh. Hehe, I seem to have got a bit confused between OpenSolaris the distribution and the SCXE which I'm running (just checked what I actually downloaded). I'm installing a new fileserver with CIFS/ZFS, is OpenSolaris (the distro) going to work just as well or better than Nevada? I'm only using a Nevada build as that is what was recommended on a ZFS blog, who's instructions I was trying to follow. Incidentally, I've managed to get the update option to work from snv_91 image, so it seems I do have an upgrade path of sorts should I decide to stick with Nevada. and for my previous posts s/svn/snv/g. Just out of interest what does snv stand for, sun version? I always thought it was the svn revision number. Thanks - -- Matt Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mattharrison.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAkhjdZcACgkQxNZfa+YAUWEggACbBzq7YIDO2czgnShNSZH9Cbzp YckAoJHXuqxOyv0XUTcQ9++bL/ustzM+ =0LKW -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages
On 26 Jun 2008, at 09:56, Kristian Rink wrote: the only killer thing I'd love to see though would be a better GUI integration for some of the essential OpenSolaris features (/me dreamin' of a time-machine-like nautilus integration of zfs snapshots... ;) ) We're hoping you won't have to dream much longer... Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]GNOME Desktop Team http://blogs.sun.com/calum +353 1 819 9771 Any opinions are personal and not necessarily those of Sun Microsystems ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages
Calum Benson schrieb: the only killer thing I'd love to see though would be a better GUI integration for some of the essential OpenSolaris features (/me dreamin' of a time-machine-like nautilus integration of zfs snapshots... ;) ) We're hoping you won't have to dream much longer... Way to go, is there a project like this up and running? Surely can't wait checking this out... Cheers, Kristian -- Kristian Rink * http://zimmer428.net * http://flickr.com/photos/z428/ jab: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * icq: 48874445 * fon: ++49 176 2447 2771 One dreaming alone, it will be only a dream; many dreaming together is the beginning of a new reality. (Hundertwasser) ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Increadible slow when power cord is unplugged
Hi Milan, I've spent some time to check /var/adm/messages once on battery, and the other time on AC power. I could see a significant difference before the message for ehci and ohci: pcplusmp: [ID 803547 kern.info] pcplusmp: pciclass,0c0320 (ehci) instance 0 vector 0x13 ioapic 0x2 intin 0x13 is bound to cpu 0 npe: [ID 236367 kern.notice] PCI Express-device: pci103c,[EMAIL PROTECTED],2, ehci0 genunix: [ID 936769 kern.notice] ehci0 is /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/pci103c,[EMAIL PROTECTED],2 npe: [ID 236367 kern.notice] PCI Express-device: pci103c,[EMAIL PROTECTED], ohci0 genunix: [ID 936769 kern.notice] ohci0 is /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/pci103c,[EMAIL PROTECTED] npe: [ID 236367 kern.notice] PCI Express-device: pci103c,[EMAIL PROTECTED],1, ohci1 The gaps indicate the time in seconds for those message. It seems that npe causes some timeouts. Now with AC power you could guess the sequence of the above lines without that gaps. Roman. Roman This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] installing gcc
Hi, gcc is not in /usr/sfw/bin do you know where it is in 5/08? This isn't GNU/Linux. It's always in /usr/sfw/bin/. if it's not, you either didn't install it, or you have a damaged Solaris installation. And, why do you believe you need GCC? Sun offers the Sun Studio 12 compilers for free, you get enterprise-quality compilers, with high-performance optimization facilities - gratis. Get Sun Studio 12 here: http://developers.sun.com/sunstudio/downloads/index.jsp Docs are both in man pages (/opt/SUNWspro/man:/opt/SUNWspro/prod/man) and on docs.sun.com (as usual). This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages
On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 11:55 +0100, Matt Harrison wrote: and for my previous posts s/svn/snv/g. Just out of interest what does snv stand for, sun version? I always thought it was the svn revision number. Solaris NeVada. Nevada has been the internal code name for the next release of Solaris since before OpenSolaris came to be, from what I remember. No idea why. Ta, Mark. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] ICH7 sound?
Folks; so far didn't really bother, but before considering a complete move to OpenSolaris, I'd really like to get audio on my notebook to work... Device, according to scanpci, being: [...] pci bus 0x cardnum 0x1b function 0x00: vendor 0x8086 device 0x27d8 Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller [...] I do have a disabled speaker symbol in my Gnome task bar, and looking at dmesg, I see messages like this spewed out once in a while: [...] Jun 26 07:32:51 n428 audiosup: [ID 957710 kern.warning] WARNING: audiohd0: reset_controller() failed to enter reset state Jun 26 07:32:51 n428 audiosup: [ID 592854 kern.warning] WARNING: audiohd0: audiohd_attach() couldn't init controller [...] Does that mean something to anyone? Any smart way of dealing with this? TIA and best regards, Kristian -- Kristian Rink * http://zimmer428.net * http://flickr.com/photos/z428/ jab: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * icq: 48874445 * fon: ++49 176 2447 2771 One dreaming alone, it will be only a dream; many dreaming together is the beginning of a new reality. (Hundertwasser) ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] USB drive for Linux - OS migration: file system?
Folks; another migration-related question: I do have a fairly well sized USB drive to hold data so far to share between Linux, Windows and OpenSolaris, thus the lowest common denominator (in terms of file systems) being FAT32. Taken into account I do have also to backup a few VirtualBox images (which are larger than FAT32 allows), I will have to reformat this drive anyhow, so my question: What kind of file system would suit best the need of being written to in Linux _and_ read from in OpenSolaris? (This is just for the migration of config and some data indeed, I'll have to go for FAT32 again after for the Windows situations anyhow...). Comments, anyone? TIA and best regards, Kristian -- Kristian Rink * http://zimmer428.net * http://flickr.com/photos/z428/ jab: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * icq: 48874445 * fon: ++49 176 2447 2771 One dreaming alone, it will be only a dream; many dreaming together is the beginning of a new reality. (Hundertwasser) ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] USB drive for Linux - OS migration: file system?
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008, Kristian Rink wrote: Folks; another migration-related question: I do have a fairly well sized USB drive to hold data so far to share between Linux, Windows and OpenSolaris, thus the lowest common denominator (in terms of file systems) being FAT32. Taken into account I do have also to backup a few VirtualBox images (which are larger than FAT32 allows), I will have to reformat this drive anyhow, so my question: What kind of file system would suit best the need of being written to in Linux _and_ read from in OpenSolaris? (This is just for the migration of config and some data indeed, I'll have to go for FAT32 again after for the Windows situations anyhow...). In that case, I'd use star to write directly to the media, i.e. create an empty/unused primary partition on the drive (what'd be /dev/hd.X, 1 = X = 4, on Linux, and /dev/dsk/...p[1-4] on Solaris), and then do: cd /dir-to-backup-from; star cvf /dev/dsk/hde2 . on Linux, and cd /dir-to-restore-in; star xvf /dev/dsk/c...p2 on Solaris to extract it. That's capable of 4GB files, UNIX permissions, long filenames, ... - for a simple data transfer/copy, it's also much faster than FAT32. FrankH. Comments, anyone? TIA and best regards, Kristian -- Kristian Rink * http://zimmer428.net * http://flickr.com/photos/z428/ jab: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * icq: 48874445 * fon: ++49 176 2447 2771 One dreaming alone, it will be only a dream; many dreaming together is the beginning of a new reality. (Hundertwasser) ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org -- No good can come from selling your freedom, not for all the gold in the world, for the value of this heavenly gift far exceeds that of any fortune on earth. -- ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] USB drive for Linux - OS migration: file system?
Frank; [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: In that case, I'd use star to write directly to the media, i.e. create an empty/unused primary partition on the drive (what'd be /dev/hd.X, 1 = indeed sounds reasonable, I completely forgot about the idea of directly dumping things to the drive without getting it some way formatted. Thanks for pointing me there. :) Cheers, Kristian ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Wine opengl problems(nvidia)
I tried to get wine via SFE One of the dependencies is freetype.It automatically started to install freetype, and then aborted, because there were some errors!I tried with gcc and with sunstudio 11, but still no result configure:2468: checking for C compiler default output file name configure:2495: gcc -i -xO4 -xspace -xvector -xstrconst -xarch=sse2 -mr -xregs=no%frameptr -xarch=sse2 -L/usr/gnu/lib/pentium_pro+mmx -R/usr/gnu/lib/pentium_pro+mmx -Wl,-zignore -Wl,-zcombreloc -Wl,-Bdirect conftest.c 5 gcc: language arch=sse2 not recognized ld: fatal: file conftest.c: unknown file type ld: fatal: File processing errors. No output written to a.out Then I tried again to compile wine myself. I solved some problems with opengl(some libs were missing),and wine compiled successfully. But still I have poor opengl performance, for example, in wine-0.50 Counter-Strike worked as in windows, and now,with wine-1.0, it is slow.What should I check? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Wine opengl problems(nvidia)
I tried to get wine via SFE One of the dependencies is freetype.It automatically started to install freetype, and then aborted, When that happens check the log file (in this case /tmp/SFEfreetype.log). because there were some errors!I tried with gcc and with sunstudio 11, but still no result This indicates a misconfiguration. Will elaborate below configure:2468: checking for C compiler default output file name configure:2495: gcc -i -xO4 -xspace -xvector -xstrconst -xarch=sse2 -mr -xregs=no%frameptr -xarch=sse2 -L/usr/gnu/lib/pentium_pro+mmx -R/usr/gnu/lib/pentium_pro+mmx -Wl,-zignore -Wl,-zcombreloc -Wl,-Bdirect conftest.c 5 cc: language arch=sse2 not recognized ld: fatal: file conftest.c: unknown file type ld: fatal: File processing errors. No output written to a.out pkgtool thought you're going to use sun studio, but configure script picked up gcc. Then I tried again to compile wine myself. I solved some problems with opengl(some libs were missing),and wine compiled successfully. But still I have poor opengl performance, for example, in wine-0.50 Counter-Strike worked as in windows, and now,with wine-1.0, it is slow.What should I check? I have wine-1.0 compiled and working. I'd try to upload somewhere. Now on configuration. I have made a script to do that before dealing with SFE. 1. Set proper PATH favoring gnu tools. Something like: PATH=/usr/gnu/bin:/usr/sfw/bin:/opt/csw/bin:$PATH 2. Make and install key GNU build tools (eg make, autoconf, blah blah). 3. ALWAYS set CC and CXX before invoking pkgtool. to use studio: CC=cc CXX=CC for gcc: CC=gcc CXX=g++. There is a problem with pkgtool. It defaults to sun studio while configure scripts of *most* packages default to gcc and don't even try platform's default compiler unless forced to. So pkgtool sets up options for sun studio compiler but configure scripts try to use gcc, which obviously doesn't work. After setting this up, most tools usually compile cleanly. Try compiling wine with above method. # My sfe.env # Used using source sfe.env export PATH=/usr/gnu/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/sfw/bin:/usr/ccs/bin:/opt/csw/bin:/opt/pkgbuild/bin export CC=gcc export CXX=g++ This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] ICH7 sound?
Are you using built-in drivers or using OSS drivers (www.opensound.com). If not using OSS try it. # pkgadd -d oss-blah.pkg oss # reboot -- -r (NOTE! reconfiguration reboot). This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] The Observatory (for OpenSolaris)
http://blogs.sun.com/observatory (The Observatory: A closer look at using OpenSolaris ) Surprised no one mentioned it here yet. Suggest to bookmark it immediately. :-) This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris Registration Wizard
Hi John. I was able to reproduce and filed a bug on this. 6719687 Registration wizard doesn't see that the host system is connected to the internet Bug will be tracked at bugs.opensolaris.org because it affects closed code. Thanks for reporting it. Jack john kroll wrote: Just installed sxce91 and got internet and sound working on my e521. Went to register the software and wizard gives no internet connection. I'm posting this with the machine?? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Disk performance woes under Indiana
Okay, no matter how hard I try I just can't get the disk speeds to be remotely reasonable on Indiana snv_91. Here are the stats on the box in question: SunOS web 5.11 snv_91 i86pc i386 i86pc pci8086,346c, instance #0 (driver name: ahci) disk, instance #0 (driver name: sd) disk, instance #1 (driver name: sd) 0. c5t0d0 DEFAULT cyl 60798 alt 2 hd 255 sec 63 /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/pci8086,[EMAIL PROTECTED],2/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0 1. c5t1d0 ATA-WDC WD5000AAJS-2-1C01-465.76GB /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/pci8086,[EMAIL PROTECTED],2/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0 NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM rpool ONLINE 0 0 0 mirror ONLINE 0 0 0 c5t0d0s0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c5t1d0s0 ONLINE 0 0 0 Writing dd if=/dev/zero of=foo.bin count=55500 will write to disk from 1.1megs/sec to 3.3megs/sec *tops* I can't get the disk to write any faster. The system I/O is just at a crawl. Quad core xeon, 2 SATA 7200 RPM drivers / zfs root mirror. I have detached the second drive and benched both of the drives, both come back with slow results. What could it possibly be? motherboard bug? System Configuration: Intel S5000PAL. BIOS Configuration: Intel Corporation S5000.86B.10.00.0085.112920071426 11/29/2007 BMC Configuration: IPMI 2.0 (KCS: Keyboard Controller Style) Processor Sockets Version Location Tag -- Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X5355 @ 2.66GHz CPU1 Memory Device Sockets TypeStatus Set Device Locator Bank Locator --- -- --- --- Unknown in use 1 ONBOARD DIMM_A1 Channel A Unknown in use 2 ONBOARD DIMM_A2 Channel A Unknown empty 1 ONBOARD DIMM_B1 Channel B Unknown empty 2 ONBOARD DIMM_B2 Channel B Unknown empty 5 ONBOARD DIMM_C1 Channel C Unknown empty 6 ONBOARD DIMM_C2 Channel C Unknown empty 5 ONBOARD DIMM_D1 Channel D Unknown empty 6 ONBOARD DIMM_D2 Channel D On-Board Devices = ATI Rage XL Intel 82546EB Ethernet 1 Intel 82546EB Ethernet 2 ESB2 Integrated SATA Controller NS PC87427 SIO3 Upgradeable Slots ID StatusType Description --- - 1 available PCI Express FH Slot 1, PCI EXP x8 1 available PCI Express LP Slot 1, PCI EXP x8 10 available PCI Express I/O Module I hope this is enough information. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Disk performance woes under Indiana
The only thing I have yet to try is detach the second disk and format it as UFS and try running the tests. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [SVOSUG] Summer Thinktank, give your input, Tonight!
REMINDER REMINDER REMINDER REMINDER Tonight! On Tue, 24 Jun 2008, Alan DuBoff wrote: SVOSUG members, help us decide what to do with our user group in Silicon Valley. I've been running SVOSUG for 3 years and quite honestly I'm getting bored with the same old format...and we've had great presentations at SVOSUG, I've been quite happy with the group over the past few years. However, I don't believe it scales for the future, and I don't think user groups offer the same advantage they used to, with the web, use of video, and online-collaboration. I don't feel we're able to accomplish too much as a user group, and there could be ways to expand and continue to grow the group in the future by changing the format. A couple ideas that I have had are: 1) Shorter presentations so that folks could watch the content at their leisure, even if they're not local. I think of lightning talks in this regard, and could offer folks within the community to get up give a short presentation that is 5 minutes, and scale out our community, not just SVOSUG. The key here would be using the meeting to create content, as we've been doing, but to make the content more usable. I haven't figured out how to leverage it better. 2) Technical Architect Groups (TAGs) where a small group of folks with common intersts can get together and work on something together. This could possibly happen the same day as the meeting, and allow people to get together and discuss something that they could go off and work on over the next month. 3) More community participation from non-Sun folks. How can we get folks to talk about things they're doing. As an example, have you built a nice system that is low power, or small form factor? Have you been tunneling through VMs on your network to allow users to access inside a Virtual Box VM? How about ekiga, do you use it on OpenSolaris? 4) Possibly going around the room and just having people mention briefly what they're working on, what they doing, and if people are interested in such, they could talk after the meeting or in email/opensolaris.org. 5) ? (give a suggestion to something you think would work) I will open my call-in number which is toll-free so that if anyone would like to voice an idea that is not local and/or how we can help you, please do. Toll Free: 866-545-5227 Intnl/pay: 865-673-6950 Conference: 809-64-14 Please feel free to join us, for a drink, a snack, some good open source talk, and a chance to talk to some of the OpenSolaris engineers. Feel free to bring your own bottle, a snack, or something to share if inclined, no entry required so feel free to join us without concern of bringing something. When: Thursday, June 26, 2008 Where: Sun's Santa Clara Campus Auditorium (SCA07, the Mansion) What: Summer Thinktank Time: 7:30pm-10:00pm Google Maps: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qhl=enq=4070+George+Sellon+Circle,+Santa+Clara, SVOSUG Project Page, for video: http://opensolaris.org/os/project/svosug/ If you haven't been to the Mansion before, as you enter the Sun campus on Palm, from Lafayette, the Mansion is the first building on the left, as I recall. There is parking all around, a small lot in the rear, parking on Palm, and a huge lot on the other side of the Auditorium. -- Alan DuBoff - Solaris x86 IHV/OEM Group -- Alan DuBoff - Solaris x86 IHV/OEM Group ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Disk performance woes under Indiana
G'Day Victor, Lets shuffle this thread over to perf-discuss (or zfs-discuss). On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 10:19:01AM -0700, victor wrote: Okay, no matter how hard I try I just can't get the disk speeds to be remotely reasonable on Indiana snv_91. Here are the stats on the box in question: SunOS web 5.11 snv_91 i86pc i386 i86pc pci8086,346c, instance #0 (driver name: ahci) disk, instance #0 (driver name: sd) disk, instance #1 (driver name: sd) 0. c5t0d0 DEFAULT cyl 60798 alt 2 hd 255 sec 63 /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/pci8086,[EMAIL PROTECTED],2/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0 1. c5t1d0 ATA-WDC WD5000AAJS-2-1C01-465.76GB /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/pci8086,[EMAIL PROTECTED],2/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0 NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM rpool ONLINE 0 0 0 mirror ONLINE 0 0 0 c5t0d0s0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c5t1d0s0 ONLINE 0 0 0 Writing dd if=/dev/zero of=foo.bin count=55500 will write to disk from 1.1megs/sec to 3.3megs/sec *tops* I can't get the disk to write any faster. The system I/O is just at a crawl. How were you measuring system I/O? I'd try this: window1# iostat -xne 1 window2# zpool iostat -v 5 window3# ptime dd if=/dev/urandom of=foo bs=128k count=1024 That should create a 128 Mbyte file. Watch iostat/zpool beforehand to make sure the system is idle, and remember that they will show the I/O that ZFS pushed to disk, not I/O to the pool - which will cache in memory first. To get an idea of what your application will see, you can divide 128 Mbytes by the 'real' time from ptime. If compression is on and you were dd'ing from /dev/zero, then ZFS will compress that down a lot before writing, and iostat/zpool won't show much. Another problem could be disk errors, hense the 'e' on iostat. Brendan -- Brendan [CA, USA] ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Netgear WNP311 wifi card supported in Solaris 10?
Hi
I'm trying to find a wifi card compatible with my Solaris 10 (version 8/07
running on Sun Ultra 24) installation.
Would the model WNP311 from Netgear work? ('Netgear 311' is listed in the
supported devices here
http://opensolaris.org/os/community/laptop/wireless/wireless_driver_compatible_list
(under module name = pcwl) but of course I'm note sure if that includes the
WNP version or others such as WG311 only (that model is not available at my
store)?
Help appreciated
Lance
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Re: [osol-discuss] Wine opengl problems(nvidia)
Please please upload Wine 1.0 somewhere! I know lots of people wanting it! PS. Ive heard that with later builds Wine SFE should compile without much problems. Also, there is a long thread with lots of hints about SFE in the Solaris Gaming sub forum here. Read it! This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] zfs: move and migrate installation locally?
Folks; cutting things short, I'd like to move my OpenSolaris installation on my hard drive without being required to reinstall. Given zfs is a great thing, I still hope for the best here. Here's the setup: - two primary partitions (sda1, sda2) holding a Linux installation (multiple logical drives inside sda2). - one primary partition (end of drive, sda3) holds OpenSolaris. What I would like to do is dedicate sda1 and sda2 to OpenSolaris (be that one or two partitions), and free the last (sda3) as an empty testbed / playground space. I haved a slight clue how to do something like this using Linux LVM, but can it also be done using zfs? Pointers, anyone? :) Any hints very appreciated, thanks a bunch in advance... Kristian ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Disk performance woes under Indiana
Thank you for the suggestion here are the results. I hate to scale it down to a 34 meg file, 128 megs took too long to write out. Compression is off. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ptime dd if=/dev/urandom of=foo bs=128k count=256 256+0 records in 256+0 records out 33554432 bytes (34 MB) copied, 29.7683 s, 1.1 MB/s real 29.770 user0.000 sys 1.335 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# zpool iostat -v 5 capacity operationsbandwidth pool used avail read write read write - - - - - - rpool 24.1G 436G 8 4 193K 36.2K mirror 24.1G 436G 15 8 383K 72.0K c5t0d0s0 - - 4 3 247K 102K c5t1d0s0 - - 0 9 8.37K 433K - - - - - - capacity operationsbandwidth pool used avail read write read write - - - - - - rpool 24.1G 436G 0 29 0 866K mirror 24.1G 436G 0 29 0 866K c5t0d0s0 - - 0 14 0 861K c5t1d0s0 - - 0 15 0 867K - - - - - - capacity operationsbandwidth pool used avail read write read write - - - - - - rpool 24.1G 436G 0 30867 868K mirror 24.1G 436G 0 30867 868K c5t0d0s0 - - 0 19 0 1020K c5t1d0s0 - - 0 17770 869K - - - - - - capacity operationsbandwidth pool used avail read write read write - - - - - - rpool 24.1G 436G 0 67 0 1.41M mirror 24.1G 436G 0 67 0 1.41M c5t0d0s0 - - 0 33 0 1.11M c5t1d0s0 - - 0 37 0 1.42M - - - - - - [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# iostat -xne 5 extended device statistics errors --- r/sw/s kr/s kw/s wait actv wsvc_t asvc_t %w %b s/w h/w trn tot device 4.84.0 250.5 102.7 0.3 0.1 39.68.5 4 3 0 0 0 0 c5t0d0 0.66.8 37.3 280.7 8.9 2.4 1217.4 327.3 51 24 0 0 0 0 c5t1d0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.00.0 0 0 0 10 0 10 c4t1d0 extended device statistics errors --- r/sw/s kr/s kw/s wait actv wsvc_t asvc_t %w %b s/w h/w trn tot device 0.8 14.60.3 1020.9 3.1 0.2 204.1 11.8 18 18 0 0 0 0 c5t0d0 0.8 12.43.4 1002.3 8.8 0.4 666.2 31.7 80 42 0 0 0 0 c5t1d0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.00.0 0 0 0 10 0 10 c4t1d0 extended device statistics errors --- r/sw/s kr/s kw/s wait actv wsvc_t asvc_t %w %b s/w h/w trn tot device 0.0 20.80.0 1139.2 2.1 0.1 99.26.4 13 13 0 0 0 0 c5t0d0 0.8 18.83.4 664.0 4.8 0.2 242.8 12.3 53 24 0 0 0 0 c5t1d0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.00.0 0 0 0 10 0 10 c4t1d0 extended device statistics errors --- r/sw/s kr/s kw/s wait actv wsvc_t asvc_t %w %b s/w h/w trn tot device 1.6 11.20.6 50.0 0.3 0.1 20.23.9 5 5 0 0 0 0 c5t0d0 1.4 15.85.1 543.8 5.4 0.3 313.5 15.8 57 27 0 0 0 0 c5t1d0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.00.0 0 0 0 10 0 10 c4t1d0 extended device statistics errors --- r/sw/s kr/s kw/s wait actv wsvc_t asvc_t %w %b s/w h/w trn tot device 0.0 21.00.0 1104.7 5.3 0.3 253.0 13.6 31 28 0 0 0 0 c5t0d0 0.4 21.43.3 1104.7 7.6 0.4 350.2 16.2 87 35 0 0 0 0 c5t1d0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.00.0 0 0 0 10 0 10 c4t1d0 extended device statistics errors --- r/sw/s kr/s kw/s wait actv wsvc_t asvc_t %w %b s/w h/w trn tot device 1.6 26.00.6 1102.3 0.0 3.10.0 111.7 0 12 0 0 0 0 c5t0d0 1.6 25.66.8 1102.3 0.0 4.30.0 157.3 0 19 0 0 0 0 c5t1d0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.00.0 0 0 0 10 0 10 c4t1d0 extended device statistics errors --- r/sw/s kr/s kw/s wait actv wsvc_t asvc_t %w %b s/w h/w trn tot device 1.0 22.8 25.9 1102.3 0.1 4.02.2 169.1 5 17 0 0 0 0 c5t0d0 0.2 22.2 12.8 1102.3 0.0 7.8
Re: [osol-discuss] Disk performance woes under Indiana
http://temp.fabulously40.com/~victori/resultio.txt Here are the results in a text file so it is easier to read. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Can I create a distribution Live CD skip the interactive configuration
Chen Jianxun wrote: Hi Is there some document can tell me how to rebuild the slim-install package? Thank you very much. http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/caiman/slim_source/usr/src/README Though you'll need Mercurial first, a bunch of tools, etc., and a copy of the source repo. See also: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/caiman/Developers/ Dave ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages
Kristian Rink wrote: Mark; thanks for the clarification on that. :) Mark R. Bowyer schrieb: Until 2008.05 came out, I was running Nevada on both my laptop and my Ultra 20. I now have OpenSolaris (the distro) on my laptop and Nevada on my Ultra 20, mostly to be able to compare, but OpenSolaris is so much nicer, that wont last for long. I can imagine. :) Comin' from Ubuntu 8.04, I found OS 2008.05 a rather pleasant experience, the only killer thing I'd love to see though would be a better GUI integration for some of the essential OpenSolaris features (/me dreamin' of a time-machine-like nautilus integration of zfs snapshots... ;) ). Will these OpenSolaris features, however, make it to Nevada one day or will OS (as a distribution) and Nevada (and its successors) always remain two completely different shoes? The roadmap is best described by the presentations here: http://www.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/Indiana Dave ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] zfs: move and migrate installation locally?
Kristian Rink wrote: Folks; cutting things short, I'd like to move my OpenSolaris installation on my hard drive without being required to reinstall. Given zfs is a great thing, I still hope for the best here. Here's the setup: - two primary partitions (sda1, sda2) holding a Linux installation (multiple logical drives inside sda2). - one primary partition (end of drive, sda3) holds OpenSolaris. What I would like to do is dedicate sda1 and sda2 to OpenSolaris (be that one or two partitions), and free the last (sda3) as an empty testbed / playground space. I haved a slight clue how to do something like this using Linux LVM, but can it also be done using zfs? Pointers, anyone? :) Theoretically, yes, but since OpenSolaris can't use multiple fdisk partitions on the same disk, your options are fairly limited. Basically, you'll need to snapshot the installation, use zfs send to copy it off somewhere else, rework your partitions (keeping in mind that you can only have one Solaris-type fdisk partition), then use zpool to create a new pool and zfs receive to restore the snapshots into the new pool. Really, re-installing is likely to be a lot less trouble and take a lot less time, especially if you just snapshot and save off just the user data to restore after installation. Dave ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] zfs: move and migrate installation locally?
Dave Miner schrieb: Theoretically, yes, but since OpenSolaris can't use multiple fdisk partitions on the same disk, your options are fairly limited. Thanks for your comments on that... so, rude idea: Messing with the partitions, using (g)parted or something the like to remake partitions the way I want them, hoping for OpenSolaris/ZFS to live with this happily ever after? Or is this right about begging for re-installation anyway? Cheers best regards, Kristian ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Trouble with mount_smbfs of Mac Shares in Open
Rob, anything new ? Hans This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Disk performance woes under Indiana
G'Day Victor, On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 11:56:26AM -0700, victor wrote: Thank you for the suggestion here are the results. I hate to scale it down to a 34 meg file, 128 megs took too long to write out. Compression is off. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ptime dd if=/dev/urandom of=foo bs=128k count=256 256+0 records in 256+0 records out 33554432 bytes (34 MB) copied, 29.7683 s, 1.1 MB/s real 29.770 user0.000 sys 1.335 Ok, that is indeed slow! [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# iostat -xne 5 extended device statistics errors --- r/sw/s kr/s kw/s wait actv wsvc_t asvc_t %w %b s/w h/w trn tot device 4.84.0 250.5 102.7 0.3 0.1 39.68.5 4 3 0 0 0 0 c5t0d0 0.66.8 37.3 280.7 8.9 2.4 1217.4 327.3 51 24 0 0 0 0 c5t1d0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.00.0 0 0 0 10 0 10 c4t1d0 extended device statistics errors --- r/sw/s kr/s kw/s wait actv wsvc_t asvc_t %w %b s/w h/w trn tot device 0.8 14.60.3 1020.9 3.1 0.2 204.1 11.8 18 18 0 0 0 0 c5t0d0 0.8 12.43.4 1002.3 8.8 0.4 666.2 31.7 80 42 0 0 0 0 c5t1d0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.00.0 0 0 0 10 0 10 c4t1d0 extended device statistics errors --- r/sw/s kr/s kw/s wait actv wsvc_t asvc_t %w %b s/w h/w trn tot device 0.0 20.80.0 1139.2 2.1 0.1 99.26.4 13 13 0 0 0 0 c5t0d0 0.8 18.83.4 664.0 4.8 0.2 242.8 12.3 53 24 0 0 0 0 c5t1d0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.00.0 0 0 0 10 0 10 c4t1d0 extended device statistics errors --- r/sw/s kr/s kw/s wait actv wsvc_t asvc_t %w %b s/w h/w trn tot device 1.6 11.20.6 50.0 0.3 0.1 20.23.9 5 5 0 0 0 0 c5t0d0 1.4 15.85.1 543.8 5.4 0.3 313.5 15.8 57 27 0 0 0 0 c5t1d0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.00.0 0 0 0 10 0 10 c4t1d0 extended device statistics errors --- r/sw/s kr/s kw/s wait actv wsvc_t asvc_t %w %b s/w h/w trn tot device 0.0 21.00.0 1104.7 5.3 0.3 253.0 13.6 31 28 0 0 0 0 c5t0d0 0.4 21.43.3 1104.7 7.6 0.4 350.2 16.2 87 35 0 0 0 0 c5t1d0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.00.0 0 0 0 10 0 10 c4t1d0 extended device statistics errors --- r/sw/s kr/s kw/s wait actv wsvc_t asvc_t %w %b s/w h/w trn tot device 1.6 26.00.6 1102.3 0.0 3.10.0 111.7 0 12 0 0 0 0 c5t0d0 1.6 25.66.8 1102.3 0.0 4.30.0 157.3 0 19 0 0 0 0 c5t1d0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.00.0 0 0 0 10 0 10 c4t1d0 extended device statistics errors --- r/sw/s kr/s kw/s wait actv wsvc_t asvc_t %w %b s/w h/w trn tot device 1.0 22.8 25.9 1102.3 0.1 4.02.2 169.1 5 17 0 0 0 0 c5t0d0 0.2 22.2 12.8 1102.3 0.0 7.80.0 346.7 0 45 0 0 0 0 c5t1d0 0.00.00.00.0 0.0 0.00.00.0 0 0 0 10 0 10 c4t1d0 Hmm - if the first output is the summary since boot, and that shows 6.8 w/s for c5t1d0 at asvc_t of 327.3 ms. SATA 7200 RPM drives should be faster than this, although it's a bit hard to know for sure with only 6.8 w/s. The asvc_t is measuring time for the disk subsystem to return - meaning this is looking like a disk or disk driver issue, not ZFS. To check further, I'd test that disk with something simple: window1# dd if=/dev/rdsk/c5t1d0 of=/dev/null bs=48k window2# iostat -xne 5 which performs a raw read test with about the same I/O size as your writes. Performing a raw write test would be more interesting, but you'd need to destroy the pool first - since it would overwrite the disk. I'd also check /var/adm/messages to see if something else odd was going on. Brendan -- Brendan [CA, USA] ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] full technical details on 2008.05
On 26/06/2008, at 12:16 AM, sham wrote: Hi all, I would like to know where i can get full technical information about Opensolaris 2008.05 I mean ,i want to know stuffs like, How the file system is built up? What sort of compression is used? (I know its using 7za ,but is it the only method being used or a trade between gzip / LZMA) How to compress back and burn an image onto a disk once i have a look at the codes ? And anything else that goes with it. There's not really any technical specifications available, other than a myriad of blog links. http://blogs.sun.com/moinakg/entry/project_indiana_internals_short_overview gives a great overview of how the LiveCD is constructed. We have 2 available - one using gzip'd compression, and the other using LZMA. LZMA compresses smaller, so a few more languages have been added. However, it's also a slower install than the one using gzip. At some stage in the future, the distribution constructor project will be finished, allowing you to construct your own images - it's just not ready yet. You can find out more at http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/caiman Glynn ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] updating packages
On 26/06/2008, at 9:49 PM, Mark R. Bowyer wrote: Hi, Keep in mind that right now OpenSolaris is quite new. IPS is completely new, and still being developed. Give us some time =O) I hope that support for OpenSolaris will get a proper, commercial grade support structure in the future. I may even be one of the people responsible for supplying the support (I do developer and OEM support now). But I don't think we're ready for that yet. Speaking totally as me and not Sun here, of course. Support is already available for OpenSolaris 2008.05 http://www.sun.com/service/opensolaris/index.jsp and will be available for each 6 month release that comes out. The support train will be significantly shorter than that of Solaris though - only 18 months. Glynn ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Trouble with mount_smbfs of Mac Shares in Open
Hans wrote: anything new ? Nothing particularly useful yet, but it does seem that it's due to the MacOS Samba process falling over, which should be a MacOS bug. Can you (or other victims) submit a bug report to Apple on this? Rob T ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Disk performance woes under Indiana
Thanks for the quick response. If you notice under zvol the read speed drops to 24mb/sec. I wish I could use dtrace but due to this bug http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6718877 which I reported earlier, I can't use dtrace since it will kernel panic the system. Solaris hates my box, zfs and dtrace out the window. -Victor This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] What about adopting rpm to package OpenSolaris?
2008/6/26 Richard L. Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: end-to-end functionality. pkgbuild does for SVR4 package building pretty much what rpmbuild does for rpms, and uses nearly identical spec files. Will there be an equivalent for IPS? The current path appears to be getting pkgbuild working with ips directly, so I surmise that is indeed the path. -- Shawn Walker ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Disk performance woes under Indiana
G'Day Victor, On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 03:09:04PM -0700, victor wrote: Okay I got more information... I detached the second disk and starting benchmarking it. Here are the results. Write to zvol: dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/zvol/rdsk/foo/ufs bs=1024k count=100 104857600 bytes (105 MB) copied, 86.3466 s, 1.2 MB/s Write to raw disk: dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/rdsk/c5t1d0s0 bs=1024k count=100 100+0 records in 100+0 records out 104857600 bytes (105 MB) copied, 51.9522 s, 2.0 MB/s Sorry - on slower systems you could get throttled by /dev/urandom; so long as ZFS compression is off, these tests will be better using if=/dev/zero. Brendan Read from zvol: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/# dd if=/dev/zvol/rdsk/foo/ufs of=/dev/null bs=1024k count=100 104857600 bytes (105 MB) copied, 4.30601 s, 24.4 MB/s Read from raw disk: ptime dd if=/dev/rdsk/c1t0d0s0 of=/dev/null bs=1024k count=100 104857600 bytes (105 MB) copied, 1.13959 s, 92.0 MB/s @ 100 This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org -- Brendan [CA, USA] ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Disk performance woes under Indiana
Quad core xeon 2.66ghz x5355 slower system? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/# dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/null bs=1024k count=100 100+0 records in 100+0 records out 104857600 bytes (105 MB) copied, 4.11732 s, 25.5 MB/s This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Disk performance woes under Indiana
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 6:29 PM, Brendan Gregg - Sun Microsystems [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry - on slower systems you could get throttled by /dev/urandom; so long as ZFS compression is off, these tests will be better using if=/dev/zero. I've also seen /dev/*random (not sure if it was random or urandom) give me only short reads that dd is bad about reporting. If zfs compression is important, probably best to do something like: dd if=/dev/urandom of=/tmp/data bs=1k count=10240 while true ; do cat /tmp/data ; done | dd of=/pool/testfile bs=1024k -- Mike Gerdts http://mgerdts.blogspot.com/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Disk performance woes under Indiana
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 06:23:36PM -0700, victor wrote: Quad core xeon 2.66ghz x5355 slower system? Sorry, I did reread that after posting, that isn't really slow. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/# dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/null bs=1024k count=100 100+0 records in 100+0 records out 104857600 bytes (105 MB) copied, 4.11732 s, 25.5 MB/s Ok, so it can do 25.MB/s. Do try if=/dev/zero if you can - this is about eliminating as many factors as possible. thanks, Brendan -- Brendan [CA, USA] ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] ICH7 sound?
Akhilesh Mritunjai 写道: Are you using built-in drivers or using OSS drivers (www.opensound.com). If not using OSS try it. # pkgadd -d oss-blah.pkg oss # reboot -- -r (NOTE! reconfiguration reboot). Probably it is caused by 6606300, that was fixed in build 93. -minskey ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Disk performance woes under Indiana
There is no compression on the volume. I have tested these writes and reads on ZFS and the raw disk. ZFS is not the issue but how indiana handles the disks. I am running out of ideas. This system is on a standard intel xeon capable motherboard. Intel S5000PAL http://www.intel.com/design/servers/boards/S5000PAL/ dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rdsk/c5t1d0s0 bs=1024k count=256 184549376 bytes (185 MB) copied, 104.892 s, 1.8 MB/s That is a write directly to the raw disk. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] USB drive for Linux - OS migration: file system?
Kristian Rink wrote: Folks; another migration-related question: I do have a fairly well sized USB drive to hold data so far to share between Linux, Windows and OpenSolaris, thus the lowest common denominator (in terms of file systems) being FAT32. Taken into account I do have also to backup a few VirtualBox images (which are larger than FAT32 allows), I will have to reformat this drive anyhow, so my question: What kind of file system would suit best the need of being written to in Linux _and_ read from in OpenSolaris? (This is just for the migration of config and some data indeed, I'll have to go for FAT32 again after for the Windows situations anyhow...). Comments, anyone? TIA and best regards, Kristian You could try the Universal Disk Format (UDF). I believe all three platforms should support it. Check into this. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] IPS Server in China
3. I am going to try do an image-update to nv91 on an nv90 desktop which started with 2008.05. If I still have problems, I will boot from 2008.05, do a zfs destroy of nv90 and nv91, then image-update to nv91. Still no luck. However, I located yet another notebook which has the update history as your machine, i. e., 2008.05 -- nv91. On this machine, I am able to log into the zh_CN.UTF-8 locale (simplified Chinese unicode): LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE=zh_CN.UTF-8 LC_NUMERIC=zh_CN.UTF-8 LC_TIME=zh_CN.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=zh_CN.UTF-8 LC_MONETARY=zh_CN.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=zh_CN.UTF-8 LC_ALL= Looks like nv90 is the culprit. :-) This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] font display in snv_91
I don't know about all the changes in nv_91, I know one set of changes was made for: 6679786 [nevada] poor fonts displayed in gnome-terminal Unfortunately, the universal law of changing font display is, no matter what you change you will get angry mail from a bunch of people wondering what took you so long to make the fonts look better now, and another bunch of people complaining you made it so much worse.Fonts are so crucial to using the desktop, but so subjective in personal preferences, that it's just a minefield to work in. -- -Alan Coopersmith- - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System em Engineering I happen to have a quite different experience. The fonts in nv91 look really professional on my system. I have a SuSE 11.0 right next to nv91. At least as far as fonts are concerned, there is really no comparison no matter I adjusted the former. BTW for some reason I lost the three icons at the right upper corner of the screen (for backgrounding, resizing closing the app window). How do I get it back? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Disk performance woes under Indiana
Bios has been updated to that. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] ICH7 sound?
minskey guo schrieb: Akhilesh Mritunjai 写道: Are you using built-in drivers or using OSS drivers (www.opensound.com). If not using OSS try it. # pkgadd -d oss-blah.pkg oss # reboot -- -r (NOTE! reconfiguration reboot). Probably it is caused by 6606300, that was fixed in build 93. Is this in IPS already? I'll give it a try as soon as it is, because installing opensound hasn't helped that much either... Cheers, Kristian ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
