Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 set

[Ken Gunderson]

May I suggest reviewing the private email I sent you earlier in the week in 
response to your context quoting admonitions?  My explanation of the Jive 
Forum/Mailman listserver duality was in a private reply  (because I didn't want 
to bore the community at large with such things) to a message from you relayed 
via Mailman listserver to a thread entitled "So who is ready to be let down?", 
dated July 5th..  Let me know privately if you're unable to locate it and I'll 
be happy to resend.
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Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 set

[Edward Ned Harvey]

> From: John Plocher [mailto:john.ploc...@gmail.com]
> 
> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Edward Ned Harvey
>  wrote:
> >> You do understand that the jive-forum interface he is referring to,
> is
> >> the Opensolaris.org one, don't you?
> >
> > So?
> 
> The point was that, even with paid support AND a full time staff of
> several people dedicated to the website, the OpenSolaris jive/mailman
> configuration and interaction is less than perfect, making the
> arguments we've been hearing (and hearing and hearing...) that one
> particular type is obviously better than the other seem pretty stupid.

I think this is out of context or something, cuz I don't know what you're
talking about.  Particularly "that one particular type is obviously better
than the other" ... One particular type of what?  Better than the other
what?  Maybe I'd know what you're talking about if "hearing (and hearing and
hearing)" referenced some other messages?


>  In this case, BOTH the paid software and the open source packages are
> lame and poorly integrated...

What paid software?  What open source packages?  Lame in what way?


> In the one case, you need a vendor who responds with a better product
> that you can use; in the other, you need staff that is motivated and
> capable of adding a desired feature; OS's Jive/Mailman example simply
> shows the failure mode when you don't get what in theory should be
> easy or obvious, for whatever reason

Sorry, just not getting it.

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[John Plocher]

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Edward Ned Harvey
 wrote:
>> You do understand that the jive-forum interface he is referring to, is
>> the Opensolaris.org one, don't you?
>
> So?

The point was that, even with paid support AND a full time staff of
several people dedicated to the website, the OpenSolaris jive/mailman
configuration and interaction is less than perfect, making the
arguments we've been hearing (and hearing and hearing...) that one
particular type is obviously better than the other seem pretty stupid.
 In this case, BOTH the paid software and the open source packages are
lame and poorly integrated...

In the one case, you need a vendor who responds with a better product
that you can use; in the other, you need staff that is motivated and
capable of adding a desired feature; OS's Jive/Mailman example simply
shows the failure mode when you don't get what in theory should be
easy or obvious, for whatever reason

   -John
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Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 set

[Edward Ned Harvey]

> From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris-
> discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Svein Skogen
>
> You do understand that the jive-forum interface he is referring to, is
> the Opensolaris.org one, don't you?

So?

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Re: [osol-discuss] The nearest thing to (forthcoming) news

[Chris Pickett]

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:39 AM, John Plocher  wrote:
> It might be worth going just to find out who the current "head of
> Oracle Solaris development" really is; it'll certainly be more than
> the OGB has been able to find out all year...
>
> Might it be Stephen Hahn or Tim Marsland or Bill Franklin or Vincent
> Murphy or Greg Lavender or someone completely new?

Sorry, but Tim Marsland has been fired on Oracle's behalf and now
works for Apple. Most other Solaris lead designers were "send away" by
Oracle, too.

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Re: [osol-discuss] The nearest thing to (forthcoming) news

[Graham McArdle]

The advertised speaker was Greg Lavender, but since he's left for Cisco I guess 
they'll have to think again. Maybe they'll just have an empty, silent stage and 
let the audience draw their own conclusions...
OK OK I'll leave the dead horse alone now.
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Re: [osol-discuss] osol-dev-134-x86.usb does not boot

[Glenn Lagasse]

* Aleksey Cheusov (v...@gmx.net) wrote:
> I've downloaded osol-dev-134-x86.usb memstick image in order
> to install opensolaris on my CD/DVD-less Acer Aspire Revo 3600.
> 
> I dd-ed this image to my memory stick but my nettop doesn't boot from
> it. file(1) shows the following

There's your problem.  That image is not dd-able.  You need to either:

a) copy the image to a usb stick from a solaris/opensolaris system that
you have installed usbcopy[1] on

or

b) you can try the windows usb creator located at:

http://devzone.sites.pid0.org/OpenSolaris/opensolaris-liveusb-creator

I've never used this and it's not produced by Oracle so your mileage may
vary.  The 'supported' option is option a.

Cheers,

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1 - you can get usb_copy installed on a opensolaris system using:
pfexec pkg install SUNWdistro-const or by grabbing the script directly from:
http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/caiman/slim_source/usr/src/cmd/install-tools/usbcopy
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Re: [osol-discuss] osol-dev-134-x86.usb does not boot

[Shawn Walker]

On 07/ 9/10 02:05 PM, Aleksey Cheusov wrote:

I've downloaded osol-dev-134-x86.usb memstick image in order
to install opensolaris on my CD/DVD-less Acer Aspire Revo 3600.

I dd-ed this image to my memory stick but my nettop doesn't boot from
it. file(1) shows the following

/srv/pub/isos/osol-dev-133-x86.usb: Unix Fast File system [v1]
(little-endian), last mounted on /export/home/dc/build_data/tmp/, last
written at Wed Feb 17 03:06:43 2010, clean flag 1, number of blocks
802800, number of data blocks 753053, number of cylinder groups 168,
block size 8192, fragment size 1024, minimum percentage of free blocks
8, rotational delay 0ms, disk rotational speed 120rps, TIME optimization

Is osol-dev-134-x86.usb a correct memstick image?


The .usb imagse are meant to be copied to a USB flash device using a 
special program 'usbcopy'; you can't just dd them to the device.


*However*, I've found that you *can* dd the .iso image for OpenSolaris 
to a USB flash device and boot it.  (At least it works on two machines 
I've tried.)


Cheers,
-Shawn
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Re: [osol-discuss] MySQLdb [and setuptools] for Python2.6 on snv_134(dev)

[Michael Brzustowicz]

nevermind  
the trouble was with my configuration of ips ...
thanx anyway!
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[osol-discuss] osol-dev-134-x86.usb does not boot

[Aleksey Cheusov]

I've downloaded osol-dev-134-x86.usb memstick image in order
to install opensolaris on my CD/DVD-less Acer Aspire Revo 3600.

I dd-ed this image to my memory stick but my nettop doesn't boot from
it. file(1) shows the following

/srv/pub/isos/osol-dev-133-x86.usb: Unix Fast File system [v1]
(little-endian), last mounted on /export/home/dc/build_data/tmp/, last
written at Wed Feb 17 03:06:43 2010, clean flag 1, number of blocks
802800, number of data blocks 753053, number of cylinder groups 168,
block size 8192, fragment size 1024, minimum percentage of free blocks
8, rotational delay 0ms, disk rotational speed 120rps, TIME optimization

Is osol-dev-134-x86.usb a correct memstick image?

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Re: [osol-discuss] More troubles for Oracle/Opensolaris?

[Hillel Lubman]

Doesn't look like it's something new:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/netapp-claims-suns-zfs-violates-its-patents/6127
Just another attempt to control the market using patents, instead of technology 
improvement.
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Re: [osol-discuss] More troubles for Oracle/Opensolaris?

[Brent Jones]

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Maurilio Longo  wrote:
> http://www.enterprisestorageforum.com/storagenetworking/article.php/3891426/NetApp-threatens-Coraid-over-sales-of-open-source-ZFS-technology.htm
>
> Maurilio.
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Stick, horse, death.

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[osol-discuss] More troubles for Oracle/Opensolaris?

[Maurilio Longo]

http://www.enterprisestorageforum.com/storagenetworking/article.php/3891426/NetApp-threatens-Coraid-over-sales-of-open-source-ZFS-technology.htm

Maurilio.
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Re: [osol-discuss] setting a second permanent loopback interface

[mongaron]

i am using "SunOS opensolaris 5.11 snv_111b i86pc i386 i86pc Solaris".
The problem i am trying to fix is called "LVS: The ARP Problem", 
http://www.austintek.com/LVS/LVS-HOWTO/HOWTO/LVS-HOWTO.arp_problem.html
(sorry if i am not allowed to post URL'S) 
i have a load balancer which represents some servers under the same VIP and i 
need to 
prevent the servers under the VIP to send thier ARP back to the client instead 
of the LVS sending his ARP to the client
so the client wont established a connection to the servers not through the lvs.
thus the configuration that make sense to me was to set a second loopback 
adapter and assign 
the VIP ip and disable it from replying the arp to the client.
i know i can block it from the router side but unfortunatlly its not in my 
hands.
thus is my solution make any sense or am i missing something?

 i have tried the following (below) again on my test machine and its
working after a reboot, the question is will it respond to ARP or not and is 
this the right way
to do it?

vi /etc/hostname.lo0:1
192.168.1.233 -arp netmask 255.255.255.255 up

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Re: [osol-discuss] setting a second permanent loopback interface

[mongaron]

you are right i should have said what is my goal.
i am using "SunOS opensolaris 5.11 snv_111b i86pc i386 i86pc Solaris".
i am not running a zone with the same IP address ,actually no zones are running 
at all.

The problem i am trying to fix is called "LVS: The ARP Problem", 
http://www.austintek.com/LVS/LVS-HOWTO/HOWTO/LVS-HOWTO.arp_problem.html
(sorry if i am not allowed to post URL'S) 
i have a load balancer which represents some servers under the same VIP and i 
need to 
prevent the servers under the VIP to send thier ARP back to the client instead 
of the LVS sending his ARP to the client
so the client wont established a connection to the servers not through the lvs.
thus the configuration that make sense to me was to set a second loopback 
adapter and assign 
the VIP ip and disable it from replying the arp to the client.
i know i can block it from the router side but unfortunatlly its not in my 
hands.
thus is my solution make any sense or am i missing something?

amazinglly i dont know how but i have tried the following (below) again on my 
test machine and its
working after a reboot, the question is will it respond to ARP or not and is 
this the right way
to do it?

vi /etc/hostname.lo0:1
192.168.1.233 -arp netmask 255.255.255.255 up

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Re: [osol-discuss] setting a second permanent loopback interface

[mongaron]

you are right i should have said what is my goal.
i am using "SunOS opensolaris 5.11 snv_111b i86pc i386 i86pc Solaris".
i am not running a zone with the same IP address ,actually no zones are running 
at all.

The problem i am trying to fix is called "LVS: The ARP Problem", 
http://www.austintek.com/LVS/LVS-HOWTO/HOWTO/LVS-HOWTO.arp_problem.html
(sorry if i am not allowed to post URL'S) 
i have a load balancer which represents some servers under the same VIP and i 
need to 
prevent the servers under the VIP to send thier ARP back to the client instead 
of the LVS sending his ARP to the client
so the client wont established a connection to the servers not through the lvs.
thus the configuration that make sense to me was to set a second loopback 
adapter and assign 
the VIP ip and disable it from replying the arp to the client.
i know i can block it from the router side but unfortunatlly its not in my 
hands.
thus is my solution make any sense or am i missing something?

amazinglly i dont know how but i have tried the following (below) again on my 
test machine and its
working after a reboot, the question is will it respond to ARP or not and is 
this the right way
to do it?

vi /etc/hostname.lo0:1
192.168.1.233 -arp netmask 255.255.255.255 up

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Re: [osol-discuss] MySQLdb [and setuptools] for Python2.6 on snv_134(dev)

[Shawn Walker]

On 07/ 9/10 11:59 AM, Michael Brzustowicz wrote:

when i search 'dev' for setuptools, something briefly appears and disappears in 
the package window ... i think it's setuptools
and i just don't see python-mysql-26 at all, just 24 ...


It would depend on what build of OpenSolaris you currently have installed.

What build do you have installed?  You need build 133 or newer.

You can tell by looking at the output of "uname -a" or "cat /etc/release".

On older builds, the package is named "SUNWpython26-setuptools" for 
python2.6 or "SUNWmysql-python26".


Cheers,
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Re: [osol-discuss] MySQLdb [and setuptools] for Python2.6 on snv_134(dev)

[Michael Brzustowicz]

when i search 'dev' for setuptools, something briefly appears and disappears in 
the package window ... i think it's setuptools
and i just don't see python-mysql-26 at all, just 24 ...
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Re: [osol-discuss] MySQLdb [and setuptools] for Python2.6 on snv_134(dev)

[Shawn Walker]

On 07/ 9/10 10:19 AM, Michael Brzustowicz wrote:

the python-mysql connector "MySQLdb" is in dev repo for python2.4 ONLY!
i download lastest package MySQL-python-1.2.3 and try command line install
python setup.py install
fails because 'setuptools' is apparently not in opensolaris.


Uh, it's there, I just think you missed it:

  library/python-2/python-mysql-24
  library/python-2/python-mysql-26

And setuptools is there too:

  library/python-2/setuptools-24
  library/python-2/setuptools-26

The 24 is for python2.4, and the 26 is for python2.6.


anyone find a way to get MySQLdb going in python2.6?
or is there a better way to connect with db's?

this seems like it should be a priority ...


See above.
Cheers,
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[osol-discuss] MySQLdb [and setuptools] for Python2.6 on snv_134(dev)

[Michael Brzustowicz]

the python-mysql connector "MySQLdb" is in dev repo for python2.4 ONLY!
i download lastest package MySQL-python-1.2.3 and try command line install
python setup.py install
fails because 'setuptools' is apparently not in opensolaris.

anyone find a way to get MySQLdb going in python2.6?
or is there a better way to connect with db's?

this seems like it should be a priority ...
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Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 set

[Svein Skogen]

On 09.07.2010 17:11, Edward Ned Harvey wrote:
>> From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris-
>> discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Ken Gunderson
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestion. Care to tell me when you've repaired the
>> jive-forum engine to make your own suggestion possible?
> 
> If the website you're using to read this mailing list is too dumb to give
> you the option of quoting original text when you reply, I will suggest using
> Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V.  (Command-C and Command-V if you're using a mac.)

You do understand that the jive-forum interface he is referring to, is
the Opensolaris.org one, don't you?

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Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 set

[Edward Ned Harvey]

> From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris-
> discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Ken Gunderson
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion. Care to tell me when you've repaired the
> jive-forum engine to make your own suggestion possible?

If the website you're using to read this mailing list is too dumb to give
you the option of quoting original text when you reply, I will suggest using
Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V.  (Command-C and Command-V if you're using a mac.)

Messages are distributed out of order, and this is a high volume mailing
list.  If you don't quote text you're replying to, nobody knows what you're
talking about.  Unless they read what you're talking about separately from
your message, and they remember it, and there's no ambiguity about which
thing you're replying to.



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[osol-discuss] Last day to submit your Surge 2010 CFP!

[Jason Dixon]

Today is your last chance to submit a CFP abstract for the 2010 Surge
Scalability Conference.  The event is taking place on Sept 30 and Oct 1,
2010 in Baltimore, MD.  Surge focuses on case studies that address
production failures and the re-engineering efforts that led to victory
in Web Applications or Internet Architectures.

You can find more information, including suggested topics and our
current list of speakers, online:

http://omniti.com/surge/2010

The final lineup should be available on the conference website next
week.  If you have questions about the CFP, attending Surge, or having
your business sponsor/exhibit at Surge 2010, please contact us at
su...@omniti.com.

Thanks!

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Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 set

[Ken Gunderson]

Again, many thanks for the suggestion. Please do apprise the community of when 
you've repaired the jive-forum engine to make your own suggestion possible?  Or 
maybe you can purchase support and open up an issue?  Jive Forums being closed 
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Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 set

[Ken Gunderson]

Thanks for the suggestion. Care to tell me when you've repaired the jive-forum 
engine to make your own suggestion possible?
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Re: [osol-discuss] The nearest thing to (forthcoming) news

[Dave Miner]

On 07/ 9/10 09:09 AM, Calum Benson wrote:


On 9 Jul 2010, at 12:25, Simon Phipps wrote:



On Jul 9, 2010, at 10:49, Chris Ridd wrote:



On 9 Jul 2010, at 03:39, John Plocher wrote:


It might be worth going just to find out who the current "head of
Oracle Solaris development" really is; it'll certainly be more than
the OGB has been able to find out all year...

Might it be Stephen Hahn or Tim Marsland or Bill Franklin or Vincent
Murphy or Greg Lavender or someone completely new?


According to his blog, Stephen's no longer at Sun/Oracle.




I don't think any of the people John named are still at Oracle.


Vincent's still at Oracle (but he's not 'head of Oracle Solaris development', 
and I don't know who's supposed to be giving that presentation at OOW either...)



The participants for panels like this usually aren't sorted out this far 
in advance.  At least someone was thinking enough to reserve the slot so 
we can populate it later :-)


Dave

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Re: [osol-discuss] The nearest thing to (forthcoming) news

[Calum Benson]

On 9 Jul 2010, at 12:25, Simon Phipps wrote:

> 
> On Jul 9, 2010, at 10:49, Chris Ridd wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On 9 Jul 2010, at 03:39, John Plocher wrote:
>> 
>>> It might be worth going just to find out who the current "head of
>>> Oracle Solaris development" really is; it'll certainly be more than
>>> the OGB has been able to find out all year...
>>> 
>>> Might it be Stephen Hahn or Tim Marsland or Bill Franklin or Vincent
>>> Murphy or Greg Lavender or someone completely new?
>> 
>> According to his blog, Stephen's no longer at Sun/Oracle.
>> 
>> 
> 
> I don't think any of the people John named are still at Oracle.

Vincent's still at Oracle (but he's not 'head of Oracle Solaris development', 
and I don't know who's supposed to be giving that presentation at OOW either...)

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Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 set

[Nikola M]

Edward Ned Harvey wrote:
>> Why do anyone need to use something closed and proprietary when there
>> is
>> open product available ?
>> (Opensolaris and distributions)
>> 
> I don't know.  Why does anyone pay for redhat?  Why does anyone pay for
> windows?  Why does anyone pay for MS Office, or Adobe Acrobat, or any other
> commercial software?
>
> Every one of them has a free alternative.  Why pay? 
>
> Because the products are not the same.  You pay for the commercial one, if
> the commercial one is the one you need.
>   
What makes you think that Open source products are not commercial? Free
software is a little bit more then being "free to use". More like "I
could know what code is inside that binary blob I am running every day".
As opposite to "use binary and depend only on one company/provider for
everything"
Usually It is never free to operate, since one needs staff, support and
man work, etc.

People can and are willing to pay for support of open source products.

On the other hand, i am totally unwilling to pay support for any closed
source product, because that is ,like, shooting yourself in the foot
these days. With so many open source OS`es, products and technologies
available.
> Specifically in the case of sol10 vs osol, you pay for support, because your
> server is important to the productivity of the company.  The $400/yr for
> support is nothing compared to the salaries of all the employees.  If you
> save even 1 minute throughout the year, or reduce risk to the company's
> assets, data, or employee productivity, then it's more costly to *not* have
> support.
>   
All you say is true in both cases: Open and Closed.
I would like to inspire people to pay support for OpenSolaris instead of
Solaris. I do not care about closed Solaris at all.

But my question is, again:
 Why on earth would I pay support for closed product, when i have open
product. (to pay support to)?

Further in this thread there is multiple people talking, how open source
OS`es or/and based on free software, are actually better with real
support in general. (With and without contract)
Like you can better use manpower you have inside a company, your
knowledge can have a timely (or instant) effect on your usage, providing
you equpped yourself with ability to make your own binaries of code that
it hurting you, before waiting for someone else to do that.

As someone said, With closed source products you have to wait much
longer, always need to be subscribe to service and again wait for only
one party to see your problem as valid enough for all of the customers
fo be fixed.

With closed product, you can not apply fix buy yourself neither you can
share that fix with other, collaborate and actually put a _smaller
pressure to a Support subscription service_ you are paying.

At the end, you need support for OpenSolaris and that is what will give
you newer technology, and make maintainers who you are paying to fix
problems that might arise during period when you use product, more
cost-effective for you and others.

Support for Solaris is costly because only small number of people can
fix it, and make it available to others. OpenSolaris support just gives
more bang for a buck on every front.

Open VS Closed; Free(dom) VS Proprietary; Independent and associated VS
Dependent on one company;  Active and included VS Passive and isolated.
OpenSolaris VS Solaris.   Choose yourself.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 set

[Edward Ned Harvey]

> From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris-
> discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Ken Gunderson
>
> > From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris-
> > discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Edward Ned Harvey
> > 
> > Specifically in the case of sol10 vs osol, you pay for support, because
> > your
> > server is important to the productivity of the company.  The $400/yr
> > for
> > support is nothing compared to the salaries of all the employees.  If
> > you
> > save even 1 minute throughout the year, or reduce risk to the company's
> > assets, data, or employee productivity, then it's more costly to *not*
> > have
> > support.
>
> You seem to be operating under the delusion that a commercial support
> contracts are magic bullets 

I didn't even bother reading beyond this line, because it's already so
ridiculous there's no point to continue.  I never said, hinted, or believed
that a support contract magically fixes problems.  Allow me to restate my
OP, in different words:

Every product is flawed, whether free or commercial.  
* If you use a free product without support, and a problem happens, you're
on your own to fix it.  (See below.)
* If you use a commercial product without support and a problem happens,
you're even worse.  Because you don't have entitlement to updates, most
likely.
* If you use a product with a support contract, and a problem happens, then
the value you get depends on the organization providing support.  I have
found redhat support to be useless except for update entitlement; I don't
recommend them generally.  I have found solaris 10 support to be extremely
useful, and I do recommend them.

Recently (2 weeks ago) I encountered a bug in subversion 1.5.7, which is the
latest release in the 1.5 series.  I spent nearly a week emailing back and
forth with the development mailing list, asking how to compile and debug,
profile and trace the source code.  Considering I didn't pay them anything,
they were extremely nice and helpful to me.  But considering the loss of my
time, and other peoples' time, I regret having not purchased a support
contract.  I shouldn't be digging through subversion source code, that I'm
totally unfamiliar with.  A subversion developer should do that.

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Re: [osol-discuss] The nearest thing to (forthcoming) news

[Simon Phipps]

On Jul 9, 2010, at 10:49, Chris Ridd wrote:

> 
> On 9 Jul 2010, at 03:39, John Plocher wrote:
> 
>> It might be worth going just to find out who the current "head of
>> Oracle Solaris development" really is; it'll certainly be more than
>> the OGB has been able to find out all year...
>> 
>> Might it be Stephen Hahn or Tim Marsland or Bill Franklin or Vincent
>> Murphy or Greg Lavender or someone completely new?
> 
> According to his blog, Stephen's no longer at Sun/Oracle.
> 
> 

I don't think any of the people John named are still at Oracle.

S.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Planet Solaris is no more

[Joerg Schilling]

Edward Martinez  wrote:

> not good.
>
> excerpt
>
> A very sad day indeed... Planet Solaris is dead. Just another in a long line 
> of bad signs. Please use Planet.OpenSolaris.org instead. A big thanks to 
> David Edmondson for running planetsolaris.org for so long. 
>

Really not good While planetsolaris.org did work and include my blog:
schily.blogspot.com

Planet.OpenSolaris.org introduced a bug some years afo resulting in my blog to 
disappear.

Let me see whether this may be fixed.

Jörg

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Re: [osol-discuss] The nearest thing to (forthcoming) news

[Chris Ridd]

On 9 Jul 2010, at 03:39, John Plocher wrote:

> It might be worth going just to find out who the current "head of
> Oracle Solaris development" really is; it'll certainly be more than
> the OGB has been able to find out all year...
> 
> Might it be Stephen Hahn or Tim Marsland or Bill Franklin or Vincent
> Murphy or Greg Lavender or someone completely new?

According to his blog, Stephen's no longer at Sun/Oracle.



Cheers,

Chris
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