Re: [osol-discuss] Re: blastwave package handling [was Re: Re: joining Sun]
On 3/22/07, James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't think, though, that "decent package management" is entirely or even primarily a feature of the packaging software itself. A huge amount of the effort rests on the project teams who package and deliver the software -- if they don't think through the upgrade scenarios clearly, there's not much that even the most sophisticated packaging tools can do to save them. Good tools can help, but there's no magic bullet here. Indeed. Several months ago a friend of mine running Debian did an `apt-get dist-upgrade'. Among other things, it upgraded apache2 and squid to newer versions, which took advantage of epoll(). epoll() is only available in Linux 2.6. These packages were built on 2.6, which made use of this newly available syscall. These packages were then deployed to systems running 2.4 kernels (also packaged by the same organization, and not obsoleted.) The resulting crashes were really quite spectacular. -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [Fwd: [osol-mktg] ALL of the 1st 5000 t-shirts have shipped]
On 9/7/05, Wez Furlong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Richard L. Hamilton wrote: > > Me three, from as far away as the exotic locale of Maryland! > > This message posted from opensolaris.org > > I'm also in MD, but haven't seen mine yet. Luckily, I got one from OSCON :) > I don't know why, but I received a shirt from Sun the other day with a tilde rotated 90 degrees (a Sun Ray?) on the front and "The average human uses only 10% of his brainpower. Find nine other people." on the back, addressed to Irene Enright :-) (No, I don't know an Irene). It was a pretty nice surprise, though, and I guess will make for a good OpenSolaris conversation starter at school (aside from my notebook, of course :). Thanks, Sun! Eric ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Wireless situation?
On 9/12/05, Andrei Dorofeev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm currently working on releasing binaries for the ath(7D) driver for > Atheros AR53xx chipsets and the wificonfig tool for Beta testing. > I've got all required legal approvals and expect that this package > will hit SDLC next if not this week. This package will contain > 32- and 64-bit versions of the ath driver. Does this driver work for CardBus devices? Thanks, Eric ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Is the nei driver removed from solaris?
On 9/19/05, Moinak Ghosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >You can try Masayuki Murayama's open-source ni/pcni drivers that >should support NE2000 compatible cards. Does anyone know if there are any plans to integrate any of these drivers into ON? Eric ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] irssi
On 10/8/05, Sh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If someone wants to use irssi irc client on solaris 10 - 11 x86 but gets > errors connected with perl, do the following: > cd src/perl/common > edit Makefile > remove -KPIC flag > remove optimization flags -xO3 -xspace -xlidoff > Do this in src/perl/common,src/perl/ui,src/perl/textui,src/perl/irc > Only by doing this i've solved the problem with irssi Or use the Sun Studio compiler. -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Laptop WIFI
On 10/14/05, Paul Gress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just wanted to post my findings on getting my laptop wifi working. I > have an HP pavilion ze4430 which came with a "Broadcom" wifi "mini-pci" > card internally. After reading about the "Solaris Wireless Driver for > the Atheros 52xx Chipset (ath)" ref > http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/laptop/wireless/ I searched ebay > and came across a company that has generic "mini-pci" cards with the > Atheros 5212 chip. I purchased the card, removed the old Broadcom card, > loaded the SUNWatheros package and it just worked. This company has > plenty more cards for $29.99 each as "buy it now". I'm not affiliated > with them, I just thought it was cheap and just worked without any > glitches and some people might be interested. The link for this company > store on ebay is http://stores.ebay.com/Prime-Electronic-Components . > They have about 10 - 15 of them posted right now, you have to scroll > through various pages to find them. Sorry if this sounded like a plug, > it wasn't, I'm just so happy it works now. I just got a small tax return the other day, and waiting for the cardbus driver is killing me - thanks :-) -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: How To Mount CDROM?
On 10/19/05, Martin 'MC' Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > sorry, that's a typo in here..that error message still > > stands...cheers. > > Well it's not needed, it'll just make life easier. > > If you want to install it it's in the SUNWvolr and SUNWvolu packages. It could already be installed. vold was just recently put under SMF, and perhaps the OP isn't running the latest community release. -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Installation Issues on Pentium III 128 MB PC
On 10/30/05, James Dickens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > oops meant that to go the the list as well > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: James Dickens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Oct 30, 2005 1:54 AM > Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Installation Issues on Pentium III 128 MB PC > To: Ashish Banerjee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > On 10/30/05, Ashish Banerjee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have downloaded the Open Solaris (Solaris Express Build 24, CD 1, English > > for x86 platforms). I have trouble installing Open Solaris on my pentium > > III, ~ 128 MB system. > > > > I already had Linux Fedora core 2 installed on this system previuosly and > > had also once successfully installed Solaris 9 installed on the same system. > > > > The Fedora Info Center reported that the Total Physical memory is 123.18 MB. > > > > When I try to boot form the 1st install CD of Open Solaris, it displays a > > console which says "GNU GRUB version 0.95 (640K lower/ 129024K upper > > memory)" and there are three options. I have tried all options, one after > > the other and get the same result. > > It give a message "Booting 'Solaris' " and the third line reads > > module /boot/x86.miniroot and displays a few dots. > > Thereafter it says > > [b]Error 28: Selected item cannot fit into memory[/b] > > Solaris express and opensolaris currently require 256MB of ram for > install... after that it will run in less... but because of the way > grub works duing the install it needs 256, you can use solaris 10 i > think, but for now your out of luck with opensolaris/solaris express. This blog about stripping the install image might be useful: http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/setje?entry=post_new_boot_solaris_on -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: OpenSolaris - Why should I care? More questions.
On 11/27/05, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Add GNU rm it includes an option that allows you to unlink non-empty > directories as root. This is a feature that POSIX did put with care into > a separate utility called "unlink". So GNU rm includes an unneeded security > risk if you make a typo. Why would someone want to unlink a non-empty directory? -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [osol-announce] build 28 (2005-12-07) available
On 12/7/05, Derek Cicero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Stephen Lau wrote: > > Whoops. The ReleaseNotes link should be fixed real soon. > > You can look through the putback logs for build 28 on the Nevada > > community page to see if anything changed in power management.. > > This is fixed. Sorry for the mixup. Speaking of mixup, the release notes state that snv16+ is required while the download page states that 18+ is required. Which is correct? -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] building licq on Solaris
On 12/25/05, Sh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all! > I'm trying to build licq 1.3 on my Solaris x86 snv_24 > I'm using Sunstudio 10 for this purpose > The problem appears when configure tries to find libstdc++ header files: > checking vector usability... no > checking vector presence... no > checking for vector... no > configure: error: You need to have the libstdc++ headers installed > bash-3.00$ Licq has a few portability issues; I've never managed to built it with Sun Studio though I haven't tried for a year or two. The g++ in /usr/sfw works well though. Are you building on sparc or x86? The configure scripts for the core as well as most (all?) of the plugins assume sparc when running on Solaris and to successfully get configure to run on x86 you need to remove the line that adds -mimpure-text to the LDFLAGS. > Unfortunately there is no precompiled package on blastwave.org I tried to sign up to maintain Licq for Blastwave last year but was rejected. -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Cannot play audio cd
On 1/13/06, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > GRIP is an audio ripper that uses CDParanoia as a > > backend (by > > default). It works pretty well for damaged audio > > discs as it can try > > to extract the damaged data or "figure it out" and > > smooth over the > > pops and clicks. Sadly, I've never tried to use > > Joerg's utilities for > > this purpose so I can't honestly compare them. > > I don't know about `grip`, but I van vouch for cdrtools from Joerg. > They're excellent tools and I can honestly say they blow the best tools on > Windows away. FWIW, Blastwave's grip package uses cdrtool's cdda2wav to rip by default. -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Can someone please explain ? I love to know, really I would ...
On 2/18/06, Dennis Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.blastwave.org/dclarke/stuff/chars.png > > That is taken from the label for the OpenSolaris b31 SX labels, > greatly magnified. > > The last 2 characters of the upper and lower line are identical with > the exception > of font weight and minor style differences. > > What do the preceding 2 characters mean ? > > They are clearly different on the same label and the lower characters > are a great > deal more complex ! You pretty much answered your own question :-) I think the upper line is simplified chinese, and the lower is traditional. It probably says just that, since the three characters in the upper left mean "japanese language". -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Changing the language of text from Hindi to English in solaris 10
On 3/1/06, Rama Krishna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > I installed solaris 10 in my system but during the installation i actually > selected Hindi as my local language. Now all the text in my windows are now > in HINDI. > How can i change language to English without reinstalling the solaris once > again. > if any one knows please help me. You can set the default locale by editing /etc/default/init. For example, mine contains: LC_COLLATE=en_CA.ISO8859-1 LC_CTYPE=en_CA.ISO8859-1 LC_MESSAGES=C LC_MONETARY=en_CA.ISO8859-1 LC_NUMERIC=en_CA.ISO8859-1 LC_TIME=en_CA.ISO8859-1 -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Bellinix Distro for Linux Format Magazine promotion
On 3/2/06, W. Wayne Liauh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Personally, I don't see how OpenSolaris could receive its deserved attention > (and respect) if no one outside the existing Solaris community can install it. > > This inadequacy IMNSHO has a lot to do with the relative lack of attention > paid to hardware drivers in Sun's own official releases. I keep five PCs > (desktops and notebooks) in my little personal lab. So far, without outside > helps, I have not been able to make a functional Solaris system out of any of > these machines (the problems mostly had to do with lack of NIC or video > drivers). Ironically, I have NO problem running either NexentaOS or Belenix > on ANY of these five machines. I wouldn't say it is ironic, so much as it is that these distributions bundle non-Sun drivers. There are three specific sets of drivers I would *love* to see integrated to Solaris proper: - nVidia's graphics driver - Masayuki Murayama's ethernet drivers: http://homepage2.nifty.com/mrym3/taiyodo/eng/ - Garrett d'Amore's ethernet drivers: http://sol-enet.sourceforge.net/ nVidia's driver obviously could only be included binary-only, but from what I understand Masayuki's and Garrett's drivers are (for the most part) BSD licensed and should be able to be included in Solaris and even OpenSolaris/ON with little trouble. This would in particular make net installs much easier for some of us. -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Driver Porting Question
Hello list, I'm currently looking at porting a certain Linux driver to Solaris' usbser/GSD framework, and am concerned about GPL/CDDL conflicts. I know that a typical port would not be allowed, however my intent is to only use the magic numbers and general chip programming logic rather than reuse code. Would I be able to do that? I suspect the answer is no, but I would like to get the opinion of some people more knowledgeable on this issue than I am. If I can't do that, I imagine I should then contact the author and discuss dual-licensing with him? Thanks. -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Driver Porting Question
On 3/9/06, Patrick Mauritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eric Enright wrote: > > I'm currently looking at porting a certain Linux driver to Solaris' > > usbser/GSD framework, and am concerned about GPL/CDDL conflicts. I > > know that a typical port would not be allowed, however my intent is to > > only use the magic numbers and general chip programming logic rather > > than reuse code. Would I be able to do that? > I guess a lawyer can give you a usable answer on that one. Thats the other answer I was afraid of :) I don't exactly have access to one.. > maybe there's a driver in one of the BSDs under their license for that > device? that works around incompatibilities in the GPL without a lawyer :) Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be one. I've already looked. -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Driver Porting Question
On 3/9/06, Bill Rushmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 9 Mar 2006, Darren J Moffat wrote: > > > > Basically I'm saying it isn't that easy you must consult a real > > lawyer. We inside Sun have to consult a lawyer every time we > > want to add any free/open source software into a Sun product. > > That is completely unrealistic for the typical open source contributor. > They are gracious enough to put in their own effort now you expect them to > hire a lawyer? What will really happen is that the developer is going to Quite unrealistic. What would be nice is some sort of FAQ, possibly on the Device Drivers community site, as mentioned elsewhere in this thread. My pre-post searching was on the difficult side, as keywords like "GPL", "CDDL" and "driver" turned up many, many uselss results. > My suggestion to Eric is to just contact the author like he thought about > already and go from there. I think I will do that. Rich's post about not being able to GPL magic numbers or algorithms seems reasonable to me, but I want to do things right. -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: Driver Porting Question
On 3/9/06, Eric Enright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello list, > > I'm currently looking at porting a certain Linux driver to Solaris' > usbser/GSD framework, and am concerned about GPL/CDDL conflicts. I > know that a typical port would not be allowed, however my intent is to > only use the magic numbers and general chip programming logic rather > than reuse code. Would I be able to do that? > > I suspect the answer is no, but I would like to get the opinion of > some people more knowledgeable on this issue than I am. If I can't do > that, I imagine I should then contact the author and discuss > dual-licensing with him? Just a bit of a followup to this. I got in touch with the author of the Linux driver, cp2101, and he feels that I shouldn't run into any licensing issues by using the magic numbers / device protocol information obtained from his driver. Furthermore, he is open to relicensing should the need arise. Good stuff. Time to get to work :-) -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: "-xstrconst" patch / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Footprint: Compiling kernel+tools with "-xstrconst -xbuiltin=%all"
On 3/18/06, Keith M Wesolowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 09:31:27PM +0100, Roland Mainz wrote: > > > Ouch... every single binary with all possible combinations of input ? > > That's almost impossible for a single person .. ;-( > > No one said you have to manually test every possible input to every > possible program. In many cases you may be able to use semi-automated > means to rule out a need for any manual testing at all (for example, > if you can show that every reference to a literal is through a const > char *, or if a program contains no string literals at all). > > You also don't have to do it yourself. Perhaps you can enlist 50 > like-minded people, each of whom can test one or two commands a day. > At that rate you'd have usr/src/cmd cleaned up in just a few weeks. I would be willing to help with such an effort. -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] how do i update my nevada version?
On 4/5/06, Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > just wondering if you have to re-download and burn the 4 iso's every time you > want to get the latest nevada build or if there is a simpler way. thanks! For my upgrades, I maintain an install server with the latest build and do network installs. It's a fairly easy system to get going, and you can create the install server using the iso images without burning them. -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] how do i update my nevada version?
On 4/5/06, Ian Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eric Enright wrote: > > >On 4/5/06, Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>just wondering if you have to re-download and burn the 4 iso's every time > >>you want to get the latest nevada build or if there is a simpler way. > >>thanks! > >> > >> > > > >For my upgrades, I maintain an install server with the latest build > >and do network installs. It's a fairly easy system to get going, and > >you can create the install server using the iso images without burning > >them. > > > > > > > You can do the same with Live Upgrade if you don't want to setup network > installs. You can't do that on a running system though, right? My understanding is that you clone your environment to new slices, upgrade it, and then boot /that/. -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: how do i update my nevada version?
On 4/6/06, Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > anyway i wanted to do a clean install this time around. i think i screwed up > the first installs partition table -- i don't think i completely got rid of > the export/home partition. this time i got i right-- swap and one big / > partition. but next time maybe i'll try the Live Update Just thought I'd mention that you could find it desirable to keep /export/home on a separate partition (or pool) once you are comfortable. That way you don't need to worry about backing anything up if you decide to do a clean reinstall in the future. Just today I did a fresh install of b36 on this laptop, but you wouldn't know it since I was easily able to fully preserve my home directory. I have an 8GB /, 1GB swap, and the rest in a ZFS pool. Installed into /, imported the pool, created a user with my old uid and I'm done. -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software
On 4/13/06, Dennis Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Also, I'm someone upset at the exlusivity you appear to claim > > for blastwave; open source is about sharing, but it's also about > > being allowed to do your own thing. > > > > "exlusivity" ? > > I give up. I really do. So have I :-( > Once upon a time I thought it would be a really great idea to build > a project that allows people to login and play. To build software > and "do things". Twice over the past two years I have made attempts at joining the Blastwave maintainer community, only to ultimately be rejected because I do not have a "work email address" (I am a student (older student, far from a freshman)). This was explained to me by Phil Brown as being for legal reasons, as employers are more responsible for the actions of their employees than educational institutions are. Fair enough, this makes some sense to me, especially considering the setting of many Solaris installations. In that regard, there is /some/ exclusivity at Blastwave. This rather put me off, since one of the projects has accepted patches by me in the past which provides Solaris support (Licq), and another one of the projects now lists packages created by me on their homepage (gtkpod). The latter even has CSW dependencies, and was created using modified cswutils scripts. This post is a bit offtopic, I admit, but "exclusivity" activated something in my brain like a keyword. I am a happy Blastwave user who has been following most of this discussion. -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software
On 4/14/06, Dennis Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So we have another stage of verification. Someone must actually know this > person and be able to verify them. Also a really tough policy to enforce. > I think we had a person in Germany that waited for a while before someone > could drive over to them and meet them. We also had to say goodbye to > another valuable maintainer because he could not be verified. I can appreciate why such a requirement is in place. Would it be possible to update some of the information on blastwave.org to reflect this? When reading the packaging standards, maintainer signup form, etc, I never saw mention of this, and it's a pretty key requirement. > Have there been exceptions? Absolutely. No one ever questioned Eric > Boutilier or Torrey McMahon ( http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/torrey ) or > Jörg Schilling. But some measures, as I am sure you will agree, need to be > enforced to ensure safety and quality. Certainly valid exceptions, I am sure ;-) > Clearly we need to look at your case again. I would be willing to do what I can for verification. If you would like to continue this discussion, we can take it off this list.. Privately or on csw-users (I am subscribed). -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software
On 4/14/06, Bill Sommerfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2006-04-14 at 07:41, Dennis Clarke wrote: > > But some measures, as I am sure you will agree, need to be > > enforced to ensure safety and quality. > > Right, but what should those measures be? Is it better to focus on > people, or on code? > > The Solaris development process more or less rejects the notion of > trusted developers. > > I expect everything I do to be questioned, and if I can't adequately > explain and defend my proposed changes, I'm not ready to integrate. > > Everything we do is (or at least should be) subject to peer and expert > review. No change ends up in OS/Net without being reviewed by at least > 2 other people, and sometimes far more than that. > > We emphasize control over *what* goes in, not *who* makes the change. That would work for source code, but would it for machine code? How could one peer review a binary package for anything other than "does what it says"? Going with the example Dennis gave earlier, if someone introduced a back door into something, say, MySQL, it could prove difficult to pick up with any amount of review. -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Asus A7V8X-X LAN Setup
On 4/28/06, W. Wayne Liauh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all! > what I need to install and use the on-board lan in an > Asus A7V8X-X, in > the OpenSolaris build 36? > > Thanks! > > Rodrigo > __ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > The easiest way as I found out is to try the BeleniX or NexentaOS liveCD to see if either works. Most likely it will. Then (hopefully, fingers crossed) someone here will detail the steps of how to copy the NIC driver from the liveCD to your installed Solaris proper. He got it working with the rh driver; he mailed me but the list was not CC'd. -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: [osol-announce] SXCR - Build 38 is now available
On 5/1/06, Derek Cicero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Build 38 of the Solaris Express Community Release (SXCR) is now available for download on opensolaris.org. The link can be found at http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads/on/. Is the bug affecting upgrade installs in build 37 fixed in this release? (I searched for it in the bug database, 6409425, but no results.) -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Asus A7V8X-X LAN Setup
On 5/4/06, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am sure you know what I meant. What's been > bothering me is that, most MB makers use the same > embedded NIC, but the Solaris developers seem > extremely persistent not to include the > implementation (detection & installation) of this > driver in the "official release" (whatever that > means). I have been out of the Solaris loop for > quite a while, exception playing with the LiveCDs > whenever a new version popped up. Perhaps the > situation has improved. But it doesn't appear to be > so. > > By excluding the low-end-but most ubiquitous-LAN > driver from the distro, the Solaris team is cutting > off millions of Solaris-wannabes from the bottom of > the food chain. Perhaps there is a perfectly good > reason for doing that, but this is IMHO too high a > price to pay. You can get this driver prepackaged from Juergen Keil's site, under "Community DU diskette". I downloaded it directly from Murayama-san, compiled it for SPARC and packaged it myself. That is all well and good, I do the same myself. However, if it were to be included with the main OpenSolaris kernel I wouldn't have to go through the trouble of modifying x86.miniroot every now and then so I can do net installs. It is under a BSD license as well. -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] SXCR Download Link Problem
There seems to be something wrong with the SXCR download link on opensolaris.org's ON build instructions page. For the past few days, the attempt to connect to javashoplm.sun.com has been timing out for me. -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] SXCR Download Link Problem
On 6/5/06, Sean Sprague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Eric, > There seems to be something wrong with the SXCR download link on > opensolaris.org's ON build instructions page. For the past few days, > the attempt to connect to javashoplm.sun.com has been timing out for > me. Just gave it a shot without problem... Can you ping it, or telnet to it on port 80 and get some HTML responses - both work for me. Suggest that you could do something like a CTRL-Shift-Reload in your browser to refresh the opensolaris page. Might work... It's not a browser problem; telnet to port 80 and ping both fail (I tried those, but did not mention it). Thanks for the replies in this thread, it's clearly something wrong on my end (or rather, my ISP's). -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: revisiting software issues
On 6/16/06, Stephen Harpster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Are your complaints that the open source software we have is old, or is your complaint about how an administrator goes about keeping software up to date? In build 41 you'll see we've brought Gnome up to 2.14. A lot of the apps have been updated as well. I just have to bump this. I did an upgrade install from b40 to 41 the other day and was immediately surprised at the upgrades to some of my most frequently used applications, notably gaim. -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] key "backspace""->" can't work in all java program under s10u2
On 7/26/06, wtwang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: i have installed solaris 10 update 2 this morning. when i do input in java programs such as sunstudio jedit , i find that key "breakspace" and "->" ...all can't work. gtk and x programs work well. the java version on solaris 10 update 2 is 1.5.06.i suspect that there is something wrong with my java.but i don't know how to do with it. is there any one got the same problem ? any sugestion? thanks .waiting for your reply. Try turning NumLuck off. -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] CPU not running at full speed
Hi all, I have the following CPU: cpu0: Mobile Genuine Intel(r) processor 1600MHz but psrinfo reports it as running at 600MHz: Status of virtual processor 0 as of: 07/31/2006 10:40:40 on-line since 07/31/2006 10:32:29. The i386 processor operates at 600 MHz, and has an i387 compatible floating point processor. I know that it supports dynamic frequency switching, but I set it to "always high" in the BIOS and still it is being reported to run at 600 MHz. The machine in question is a Toshiba Satellite M30. It doesn't really "feel" like it is running so slow, but then again it does have a pretty slow disk so it's hard to tell... Any ideas? -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] CPU not running at full speed
This seems to have failed to make it to the list the first time. On 7/31/06, Eric Enright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, I have the following CPU: cpu0: Mobile Genuine Intel(r) processor 1600MHz but psrinfo reports it as running at 600MHz: Status of virtual processor 0 as of: 07/31/2006 10:40:40 on-line since 07/31/2006 10:32:29. The i386 processor operates at 600 MHz, and has an i387 compatible floating point processor. I know that it supports dynamic frequency switching, but I set it to "always high" in the BIOS and still it is being reported to run at 600 MHz. The machine in question is a Toshiba Satellite M30. It doesn't really "feel" like it is running so slow, but then again it does have a pretty slow disk so it's hard to tell... Any ideas? -- Eric Enright -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Happy to say I'm posting this from Nexenta!
On 8/7/06, Shawn Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joerg, this is a private war between you an Debian. I > wonder if anyone on this list has any interest in > this. I guess no one realy cares about it and > therefore I ask you to argue on this one with the > Debian developers. Thank you. It's not a private war at all considering it means Debian is rejecting the CDDL -- which this entire project is currently centered around. In addition, it is important for others to know that are contributing to this project because it helps them understand the challenges they face if they want to help Nexenta integrate contributed changes upstream. Normally I avoid derailed threads such as this, but Shawn has a good point. If Debian is rejecting the CDDL, then I think this is something that should be made aware to the community. I follow several high traffic osol lists, and this is the first I have heard about this issue. While Debian is my Linux of choice, I do not currently use Debian or Nexenta. However, the thought of CDDL packages being placed into "non-free" (as was mentioned elsewhere in this thread) is a bit distressful to me. -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: cdrw/cdrecord (Was Re: [osol-discuss] Happy to say I'm posting this from Nexenta!)
On 8/8/06, Hugh McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: PS: on my system at least, cdrecord seems to win in the always-important "not burning coaster DVDs" stakes though, unlike cdrw, which dies at the start for some reason. So I'm grateful for this, but it would certainly be nice not to have to specify "dev=whatever". Just thought I'd point out that you can set the default drive in /etc/default/cdrecord so you do not have to specify it every time. Though I do agree that picking a drive when only one exists would be nice. -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] SIlly Question about exceptions
On 10/26/06, Robert Lunnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Can anyone give me an explanation of what exactly would cause a signal for Segmentation Violation - Page - Fault to be returned. The Memory region accessed was previously accessed successfully then suddenly causes a page fault. Is there a way to look at the page attributes of a memory region in mdb or gdb ? If it was accessed successfully and then not, there was probably a free(3C) somewhere in between.. pmap(1) will print attributes for you. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ (1)> pmap $$ 6298: /usr/bin/tcsh 08038000 64K rw---[ stack ] 0805 288K r-x-- /usr/bin/tcsh 080A7000 28K rwx-- /usr/bin/tcsh 080AE000 476K rwx--[ heap ] D0D7 20K r-x-- /usr/lib/locale/en_CA.ISO8859-1/en_CA.ISO8859-1.so.3 [...] (can also operate on a core) -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Fwd: NDN: Re: [printing-discuss] Unresponsive Printer
Twice now I've received this after mailing printing-discuss. The first time it really did go through, this time I do not see it on the forum portal. Eric -- Forwarded message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Oct 29, 2006 4:26 PM Subject: NDN: Re: [printing-discuss] Unresponsive Printer To: Eric Enright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to: behn,Internet (The name was not found at the remote site. Check that the name has been entered correctly.) -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] hg source repository down ?
On 11/8/06, T.J. Yang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: bash-3.00# hg clone ssh://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/hg/onnv/onnv-gate remote: abort: repository hg/onnv/onnv-gate not found! abort: no response from remote hg! bash-3.00# date Wed Nov 8 23:33:24 CST 2006 bash-3.00# It is down: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=18346 -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] SWT On Open Solaris ON XX
On 11/27/06, David Lloyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Has anyone managed to work out how to get SWT to work on the ON consolidation? By this, I mean: * Eclipse/Netbeans/Woteva manages to find the SDK I haven't tried this. * Using some kind of possibly horrendous arcane syntax, one can get SWT applications to display momentarily and THEN crash (as opposed to just crash without displaying) I regularly use Azureus 2.5.0.0 with a hand-rolled SWT: -bash-3.00$ ls lib Azureus2.5.0.0.jarlibswt-cairo-gtk-3311.so libswt-gtk-3311.so libswt-atk-gtk-3311.solibswt-cde-gtk-3311.solibswt-pi-gtk-3311.so libswt-awt-gtk-3311.solibswt-gnome-gtk-3311.so swt.jar "System" information from Azureus: Java 1.5.0_08 Sun Microsystems Inc. SWT v3311, gtk SunOS v5.11, x86 I forget exactly how I built it, but it was rather painful. It involved loosely following the documentation and manually copying around a number files, because the docs and the source tree did not quite seem to line up. Are you using Blastwave's SWT, by chance? In the past I experienced Azureus crashing soon after load with their version, depending on what desktop environment I was using. Oddly enough, if using Blackbox things were fine, but if using CDE it went down in a ball of flames. I forget the error messages, but they were X related. Clearly, IBM are able to get SWT running -- unless my Eclipse 3.2 is a cleverly disguised SWT app -- but I can't quite work out how to get a simple SWT HelloWord app to compile or even run. Again, I only used the library rather than develop with it. You are welcome to have my x86 build if it might help, though. -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Has the dlc gone bad? http://dlc.sun.com/torrents/ - page not loading.
Forgot to hit reply TO ALL ... :| On 12/18/06, Eric Enright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 12/17/06, Christian Kujau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Due to licensing restrictions, we can't make the > > Solaris Express ISOs available through BT. > > can elaborate on this? A private tracker could provide the torrent to registered users only, I don't see the difference between providing the ISOs with http. (the reason I ask is really: the URLs of the images are a real PITA to download with wget as I don't want to download a 500MB file with a browser) It's not really /that/ troublesome. Typically I run a screen, cut-n-paste the urls into a file, and do something like: foreach url ( `cat files` ) wget -O `basename "$url"` "$url" end I would use BT were it available, however, since it saves me the step of verifying the checksums (and re-downloading should one fail) and gives a nice GUI. Speed is of no concern to me because it's a rare occurance when Sun's pipes don't saturate my downstream. Another thing to note, is in a recent discussion with a friend who I'm in the process of converting over to Solaris, he asked this question about SXCR: "Ok, cool, so where can I find a torrent?" A lot of people seem to expect it these days. -- Eric Enright -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Dual-Head on Radeon with Xorg
Hi Brian,
Comments inlined in the config file below.
On 12/21/06, Brian Hechinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm not sure where the problem lies exactly. I've now got it somewhat working.
Just as a datapoint, I put 6.8 onto svn_38 and it worked great.
The MergedFB stuff is working, but I have this issue:
The secondary monitor (CRT2) gets setup at the correct resolution (1280x1024)
and the primary monitor gets setup at 1024x768. This is not what I wanted, I
would like both to be 1280x1024.
I don't know what I need to do to cause this to happen however.
Any advice would be most welcome as I'm starting to lose my mind here. ;)
-brian
ps: I don't seem to be able to attach the config file, so i'll paste it here
Section "ServerLayout"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection
Section "Files"
RgbPath "/usr/X11/lib/X11/rgb"
ModulePath "/usr/X11/lib/modules"
FontPath "/usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/"
FontPath "/usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/sun/"
FontPath "/usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/F3bitmaps/"
FontPath "/usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/X11/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
EndSection
Section "Module"
Load "IA"
Load "dbe"
Load "extmod"
Load "record"
Load "xtrap"
Load "glx"
Load "bitstream"
Load "type1"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "keyboard"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "auto"
Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier "ATI"
Driver "radeon"
# accelration
Option "EnablePageFlip" "on"
Option "RenderAccel" "on"
# enable (partial) PowerPlay features
Option "DynamicClocks" "on"
# use bios hot keys on thinkpad (aka fn+f7)
Option "BIOSHotkeys" "on"
# enable radeon specific xinerama
Option "MergedFB" "true"
Option "CRT2Position" "LeftOf"
Option "CRT2Hsync" "50-75"
Option "CRT2VRefresh" "30-82"
Option "MetaModes" "1024x768-1280x1024"
The above line is interpreted as the resolution for
"Display0-Display1", so what you would want here is
"1280x1024-1280x1024".
#Option "MergedNonRectangular" "true"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
HorizSync 50-75
VertRefresh 30-82
Option "DPMS"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "ATI"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1280x1024"
Virtual 2560 1024
EndSubSection
EndSection
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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: vfork issues
On 12/21/06, Ignacio Marambio Catán <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 12/21/06, Peter Buckingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > huy vu wrote: > > Thank to you both, Nacho and Joerg. However I would love to hear why > > the call to exec would fail right after a call to fork(). From > > reading things about vfork() it sounds like its sole purpose is to > > allow people to call exec right after a fork. I just like to > > understand why exec doesn't work well with fork(). Is it because the > > scheduler is not ready or unpredictable after a fork()? > > Think of a situation where the memory footprint of the parent is large > and you want execute something with a small footprint, eg execing > something from a java process. > > The fact that you are execing means you don't need to access the address > space of the parent for communication so why copy it? (like is done in fork) > > Linux uses Copy on Write to address this problem. > iirc, so does solaris but solaris does check whether there is enough memory to actually hold a full copy of the parent address space Linux overcommits / lazy loads on memory allocations, though this is tunable. I believe the default setting is to overcommit, which can lead to the random killing of processes in order to retrieve memory should one run out. I forget the terminology used for that particular system. -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Dual-Head on Radeon with Xorg
On 12/22/06, Brian Hechinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Option "MetaModes" "1024x768-1280x1024" >The above line is interpreted as the resolution for >"Display0-Display1", so what you would want here is >"1280x1024-1280x1024". I had mistaken that for the range of supported resolutions, not the resolution of each screen. You were close. It will also accept things like: Option "MetaModes" "1280x1024-1280x1024 1024x768-1280-1024 1024x768-1024x768" etc etc Enjoy! Regards, Eric ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] ElReg: "Is Solaris really a bright choice for developers?"
I would post to the article itself but I don't want to register an account for one post... On 1/22/07, Martin Bochnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2007/01/22/opensolaris_sun/ Please comment (and correct the bottom-most comment by Hetz Ben Hamo, which is FUD). Hmm. Solaris has a pretty cool KDE desktop *now*? That is news to me! :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ (2)> ls -ld /opt/csw/kde-gcc drwxr-xr-x 8 root bin 512 Apr 11 2006 /opt/csw/kde-gcc/ -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Assembler Output
On 1/23/07, DEEPAK BHATIA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I am not sure if this the right place to ask this question. How can we use cc to product assembler output file ? cc -S -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Newbie Alert!..... question about Sun support contract
On 1/24/07, Brett Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OpenSolaris is not Solaris. OpenSolaris is source code upon which different distributions are or will be based. Current distributions include Solaris Express (from Sun, beta quality), Nexenta, SchilliX, etc.. Since there isn't a production distribution out from Sun yet, I don't think support is available. I think there will be a Solaris 11 based on OpenSolaris in the future. Current patches available on SunSolve are for Solaris 10, 9, 8, 7, etc., and they don't apply to the OpenSolaris sources. New sources for OpenSolaris are released every other week which include bug fixes. Also worth mention is that the bi-weekly builds (Solaris Express Community Release) have upgrade installs available to make your existing SE install current. -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Newbie Alert!..... question about Sun support contract
On 1/24/07, 陶捷 (Euler Tao) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Nexenta could be thought as the next distribution, Solais 11, couldn't it? What about SchilliX? I heard it first time. :( Neither of them can be thought of that way. They are both OpenSolaris-based distributions, but only Sun can release Solaris 11, based on OpenSolaris. Solaris Nevada will form Solaris 11. Eric 2007/1/25, Brett Albertson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > OpenSolaris is not Solaris. OpenSolaris is source code upon which different distributions are or will be based. Current distributions include Solaris Express (from Sun, beta quality), Nexenta, SchilliX, etc.. Since there isn't a production distribution out from Sun yet, I don't think support is available. I think there will be a Solaris 11 based on OpenSolaris in the future. > > Current patches available on SunSolve are for Solaris 10, 9, 8, 7, etc., and they don't apply to the OpenSolaris sources. New sources for OpenSolaris are released every other week which include bug fixes. > > Brett Albertson > > > This message posted from opensolaris.org > ___ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: 3K man pages available
On 1/29/07, Bruno Jargot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1/29/07, Michelle Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Rich, > > Thanks for this message, really good to hear from you. I will ask the gatekeeper to make this change if there are more folks who prefer gzip to bzip2--you are the first to ask. I think it's better to stick with bzip2 archives. They need less bandwidth and less room on disks. Using gzip again would be a step backwards. Really. My bandwidth and disks have grown significantly faster than my CPU speeds. And for those of us who like to use SPARC but can't afford new (fast) processors, gzip is a godsend. Given the option, I'll take gzip over bzip2 without consideration. Waiting a little extra time to receive the archive is far better than waiting a lot of extra time to unpack it. -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: 3K man pages available
On 1/29/07, Martin Bochnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Eric Enright wrote: > Given the option, I'll take gzip over bzip2 without consideration. > Waiting a little extra time to receive the archive is far better than > waiting a lot of extra time to unpack it. > Exactly. Only issue with the gzip binary shipping with Sun Solaris (10 03/05 and earlier Nevada builds): Is large file support compiled in, meanwhile ?? I'll have to check the most current ON source's Makefiles. But good night for now. Looks like it. From b55b: -bash-3.00$ /usr/ccs/bin/elfdump /usr/bin/gzip | grep FUNC.\*open [53] 0x08051f8c 0x FUNC GLOB D0 UNDEF opendir [179] 0x08051e8c 0x FUNC GLOB D0 UNDEF open64 -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: 3K man pages available
On 1/29/07, Roland Mainz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Michelle Olson wrote: > Thanks for this message, really good to hear from you. > I will ask the gatekeeper to make this change if there > are more folks who prefer gzip to bzip2--you are the first to ask. What about providing both gzip and bzip2 tarballs ? This is an ideal solution, IMO. Many source repositories also do that. -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: bzip2 performance on SPARC / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: 3K man pages available
On 1/29/07, Roland Mainz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Eric Enright wrote: > On 1/29/07, Bruno Jargot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 1/29/07, Michelle Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Rich, [snip] > Waiting a little extra time to receive the archive is far better than > waiting a lot of extra time to unpack it. Offtopic: Both gzip and bzip2 run much faster on SPARC, either via using large pages (e.g. 64k or 4M; 512k pages will not work on Niagara1 machines... ;-( ) for the source and destination buffers and/or using profile feedback compilation (and/or, XIPO (=interprocedural optimizer)). In theory it may even be "nice" to provide gzip and bzip2 as optimized libraries to avoid that less-optimal versions are used by the various applications (it would even allow to use some of the gzip-accerlator cards out there (by replacing the libraries with versions which use this hardware)). Just for fun, I did a very quick-n-dirty benchmark on a 333MHz U10. I tried 64k, and "default", and 64k is the winner. I also tried 4M but results and possible long-lost memory make me wonder if 4M is available on USIIi, so I omit the results (they were very similar to "default".) Each test was done with the source file read over NFS and written to /dev/null, and each test was done twice. The file was an archive of /usr/X11R6 from FreeBSD, 145M originally and 66M compressed. cc -xO2 -xpagesize=64k real1m53.009s user1m46.689s sys 0m1.984s real1m50.108s user1m46.299s sys 0m1.507s cc -xO2 -xpagesize=default real2m11.240s user2m5.738s sys 0m1.775s real2m10.303s user2m5.548s sys 0m1.663s -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: GPLv3?
On 1/30/07, Shawn Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You may not be able to make everyone happy with a single license, but if you can make most people happy... And you likely couldn't make everyone happy with two. I for one am happy with the CDDL, and to date have read nothing which convinces me that the GPLv3, whatever it may be, would really bring anything good here at all. -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: GPLv3?
On 1/30/07, Dennis Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/30/07, Shawn Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>You may not be able to make everyone happy with a single license, but > if you can make most people happy... > > And you likely couldn't make everyone happy with two. > > I for one am happy with the CDDL, and to date have read nothing which > convinces me that the GPLv3, whatever it may be, would really bring > anything good here at all. My gut reaction is to agree with you. The problem is that my brain tells me not to trust my gut. I think that this is waaay to early to have this discussion and we should wait for the GPLv3 to be complete *and* wait a bit longer to see the impact in the open source software world. Then we would have much more data to base a decision on. This is my feeling as well. I'm not strictly against a dual-license, but it really needs to be for a good reason and we simply can not decide on this without all the facts. Furthermore, it seems to me that a large part of the goal with this idea is to increase interest with the existing GPL community. That is all well and good (who wouldn't want more interest here??), but we then must wait and see how they receive the GPLv3... -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [Fwd: Re: GPLv3?]
On 1/31/07, John Sonnenschein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 31-Jan-07, at 11:42 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> It is "super easy" (IMO) for people to get Solaris, and the >> OpenSolaris code. The hack on it and c > ontribute part is hard because of closed_bins and the integration > process respectively. > > What's difficult about the closed bins apart from not being able > to port to a different architecture or chance the bits in closed_bins? > > Nobody likes the closed_bins; but it's not under our control Rubbish. It can be reimplemented. Are we seriously to believe that sun doesn't have the enigneering muscle to reimplement 150 small utility functions?The good chunk of closed bins can be taken from gnu/bsd, there's only a couple libs (ipsec is one, and the critical one that you can't build ON at all, even in a degraded state, is libc_i18n.a ) I think what Casper is hinting at, as I have seen many other Sun employee's also hint at, is that we do not need to wait for Sun to fix this problem. -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] which open solaris for a total newbie
On 2/18/07, brad kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok I have some linux experience (not much) and wanted to learn solaris on my own time without dishing out to sun to do so. I can across this page... http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads/#use and see all these choices. I'd love some opinions on which one you think is the closest to the pay for solaris os...oh and as you might assume I would be installing on a plain old pc...thanks much for your thoughts...once I do this I will next need suggestions on a good book but that is for another thread... There is no "pay for" Solaris -- it's all free. With Sun's distribution the only thing you pay for is, optionally, support. So you probably want Solaris Express Community Edition. -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Dual booting an Ultra 10
On 2/19/07, Andrew Pattison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I need to have both Solaris 9 and SXCE on the machine at the same time - I'm not doing an upgrade. Live Upgrade will allow you to have both versions on the machine at the same time. With LU, you basically clone your existing install and then upgrade the clone. You can then choose which installation will be booted with luactivate(1M). live_upgrade(5) has complete information. -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] help burning opensolaris express
On 2/20/07, brad kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, well using a suse system I downloaded the opensolaris express using the sun download manager app. it created the images with files ending in a through e. it also had those in zipped format but I did not bother opening them as from a ls -l they looked slightly small then the files of the same name that were not zipped. I assumed that this meant that the sun download manager app already unzipped the files for me (could that be my first mistake?) anyway I then did a cat a b c d e > solarisexpress.iso where a-e were the files ending with those letters. I burnt 2 dvd's one after doing a chmod 777 on the file and one leaving it at its defaults (wasnt sure if I had to make it executable). to burn the dvd's I used an app called k3b and did a "burn dvd image" from the tools drop down menu. now when I look at the dvd I see these files/folders folders: developer tools license solaris_11 boot files: copyright jdsthirdpartylicensereadme readme autorun.inf autorun.sh installer so I hope that means I did the process correctly problem is when I reboot the pc it doesn not boot from the dvd. I know the dvd works because I tested by inserting from the suse dvd and it saw it and was ready to start the install. so pleases let me know if I have missed a simple step either in the download/solarisexpress.iso creation or in the actuall burning of the dvd...thanks much... Did you verify the MD5 sums? -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Dual booting an Ultra 10
On 2/20/07, Andrew Pattison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It sounds like disabling auto-boot and just typing "boot s9" or "boot s11" would probably be the easiest way of doing it. I believe luactivate simply changes an NVRAM entry or two to set the root disk, and then flags the appropriate BEs as active/inactive. Namely the "boot-device" property. So, say you have s9 installed on c0t0d0s0 and s11 installed on c0t0d0s4, you could "boot disk:a" to get s9 or "boot disk:e" to get s11. Setting "boot-device" to either of those will set your default. I'm not terribly experienced with OBP so I hope someone will correct my if any of that is wrong.. Especially I'm not sure of the nomenclature for booting off a second disk, maybe "boot disk1:a"? -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Free S10 CDs?
Hi all, Several weeks (months?) ago Sun had some sort of online deal where they would ship free S10 and Sun Studio 11 CDs out for free. A few weeks ago a friend of mine was complaining about not receiving them, and just now another friend of mine is mentioning not receiving them. Is there any known reason for this? From my second friend's confirmation email: - We have received your request for a free Solaris 10 and Sun Studio 11 DVD Media kit. Assuming that the mailing address you've provided is valid and resides in a country in which it is legal for Sun to ship media, you should expect for your kit to arrive within 10 business days. - His shipping address was in the same email, and is in the USA and correct. This "order" was placed, roughly, in mid-January. I'm all for this sort of marketing to help garner interest in OpenSolaris. One of the aforementioned friends was reluctant to spend his time downloading SXCR (which I pushed) but this got him going. His not having it by now has all but killed his interest. Whats going on? Sadly, the second friend was also involved with Windows Vista, which also promised to send him CDs. They were late due to supply reasons, but they did at least email him every few weeks to tell him so. Can anyone comment on whats up? Thanks, Eric ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Free S10 CDs?
On 2/23/07, Kuldip Oberoi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Here's the link: http://sun.com/solaris/freemedia Basically, it was so successful, we quickly hit a supply issue as well. It has taken longer than we would have like to be addressed (internal funding, manufacturing, etc.) and we could have handled the communication better, but my understanding is that we are now filling the back order requests. Thanks for the word, I'll pass it along. Eric Eric Enright wrote: > Hi all, > > Several weeks (months?) ago Sun had some sort of online deal where > they would ship free S10 and Sun Studio 11 CDs out for free. A few > weeks ago a friend of mine was complaining about not receiving them, > and just now another friend of mine is mentioning not receiving them. > Is there any known reason for this? > >> From my second friend's confirmation email: > > - > > We have received your request for a free Solaris 10 and Sun Studio 11 DVD > Media kit. Assuming that the mailing address you've provided is valid > and > resides in a country in which it is legal for Sun to ship media, you > should > expect for your kit to arrive within 10 business days. > > - > > His shipping address was in the same email, and is in the USA and > correct. This "order" was placed, roughly, in mid-January. > > I'm all for this sort of marketing to help garner interest in > OpenSolaris. One of the aforementioned friends was reluctant to spend > his time downloading SXCR (which I pushed) but this got him going. > His not having it by now has all but killed his interest. Whats going > on? > > Sadly, the second friend was also involved with Windows Vista, which > also promised to send him CDs. They were late due to supply reasons, > but they did at least email him every few weeks to tell him so. > > Can anyone comment on whats up? > > Thanks, > Eric > ___ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org -- Kuldip Oberoi Product Line Mgr, Sun Studio (Web) http://developer.sun.com/sunstudio (Blog) http://blog.sun.com/koberoi -- Eric Enright ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Bittorrent client for Solaris
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Matt Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gizd wrote: >> I wanted to install libtorrent and I believe I did install it, but since >> it's the first time ever I'm installing a package I'm not entirely sure I >> did everything I had to. I downloaded libtorrent-0.11.4-sol10-x86-local.gz >> from SunFreeware, then what I did was: >> gunzip libtorrent-0.11.4-sol10-x86-local.gz >> pkgadd -d libtorrent-0.11.4-sol10-x86-local >> >> Got a message at the end that it was installed successfully, but now what? I >> know how it stupid sounds, but I can't figure out how to run the application. > > I believe that libtorrent is only the libraries and won't include actual > applications for using torrents. I could be wrong but you'll probably > have to install a torrent application and I have no idea what's > available for solaris. Azureus, written in Java, works quite well. Eric ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
