Re: [opensuse-factory] compiz + xcb problem
Stefan Dirsch skrev:
On Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 11:08:43PM +0100, Simon Strandman wrote:
Hello
I wanted to try the latest xgl/compiz stuff so I added a two repos from
repos.opensuse.org; X11:/XGL and xorg72. That got me Xorg 7.2 RC3, mesa
6.5.2, compiz 0.3.4 and some other stuff. The new xorg is built with xcb
instead of standard xlib which causes a problem with compiz. Now it
refuses to start with this error:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ DISPLAY=:1 compiz
compiz: xcb_xlib.c:50: xcb_xlib_unlock: Assertion `c-xlib.lock' failed.
Avbruten (SIGABRT)
Is this a known problem? Any ideas?
Probably related to the rather old Mesa sources in compiz. Anyway, I
no longer build libX11 against libxcb for the xorg72 project. Java
apps is another problem.
See also https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9336
Best regards,
Stefan
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Hello
Thanks for your reply. I updated my system today and it still wouldn't
run. But then I searched the freedesktop bugzilla and found a patch for
mesa that fixed a problem like this (bug #*8521*, linked in the bug you
posted). I adapted the patch to the mesa snapshot in the compiz SRPM and
rebuilded it. Now compiz actually runs again, with xcb! The patch it
attatched to this mail.
--- src/glx/x11/glxext.c2006-04-11 14:21:48.0 +0200
+++ src/glx/x11/glxext.c2006-12-16 10:29:41.0 +0100
@@ -1015,11 +1015,11 @@
if (!_XReply(dpy, (xReply*) reply, 0, False)) {
/* Something is busted. Punt. */
UnlockDisplay(dpy);
+ SyncHandle();
FreeScreenConfigs(priv);
return GL_FALSE;
}
- UnlockDisplay(dpy);
if (!reply.numVisuals) {
/* This screen does not support GL rendering */
UnlockDisplay(dpy);
Re: [opensuse-factory] D-Link DWL 520+ support
Vahis wrote: In 10.0 there's an update available on the update servers, a script that installs the acx100 firmware for Texas Instruments chipset used in DWL520+. This works fine, the card works without any problems. If I update to 10.2 the card does not work anymore. This script is no more available. If I make a fresh install of 10.2 the card is not even found. Is there a workaround I could try to a) keep my existing card in update (otherwise the update works fine) b) get the firmware to work when I copy it to the same place in a fresh install? Does the firmware (or kernel or something) need some installing or is it just to copy the firmware? It looks like the script just fetched the drivers and put the firmware there. - -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 83320 2006-10-05 12:59 /lib/firmware/tiacx111c16 The firmware can be downloaded from the link on site http://acx100.sourceforge.net/wiki/Firmware Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP
Hi, I'm using OpenSUSE 10.2 and my clock is running too fast. I turned on NTP but NTP only works when its first run, then defaults back to the local clock, which is the clock that is running too fast. This is a problem specific to 10.2. I've had OpenSUSE 10.1, Fedora Core 5 and 6 on this same hardware without issues. Byte -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP
ByteEnable wrote: Hi, I'm using OpenSUSE 10.2 and my clock is running too fast. I turned on NTP but NTP only works when its first run, then defaults back to the local clock, which is the clock that is running too fast. This is a problem specific to 10.2. I've had OpenSUSE 10.1, Fedora Core 5 and 6 on this same hardware without issues. Are you possibly running this in a VMware virtual machine? If you are, add 'clock=pit' into your grub boot parameters. It's a known VMware issue. -- Anders Norrbring Norrbring Consulting smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
[opensuse] opensuse mini-CD install issue
Hello. We go a problem here: we are going to distribute SUSE mini-installation CD to the campus that automatically use the network installation method and use our campus SUSE mirror server for installation source. Speed is satisfying (download at 2MB/s). The problem is the mini-CDR we ordered for distributing can hold 46120960 bytes of data, we thought this is enough because SuSE 10.1 is much smaller then this size. After these CD-R shipped to us (TODAY) we discovered SUSE 10.2 mini i386 version is 46149632 bytes and x86_64 version is 49264640 bytes. That's not enough to fit this mini-CDR. We further tested it's not possible to overburn, this CDR can only contain 46120960 bytes. Since we got a lot of such mini CDRs and the day for distributing is tomorrow, I think a fast solution is to remove some files from the mini installation image. Only removing 28KB data is enough for i386 mini-install image to fit in, we need to remove 3.14MB data to let x86_64 image fit in. What can we remove from the mini-install ISO image? (biostest looks very large and not so useful, kinda wish to remove this one first) -- 锐业软服（国内业务） http://www.realss.cn Real SoftService http://www.realss.com 销售咨询(Sales Department):0086 592 20 99987 (Chinese, German, English) 国际业务(International Sales): 0086 10 8460 6011 (German and English) 联系：厦门大学科技园，嘉庚二号楼6楼 邮政：厦门大学2312号信箱（邮编361005） signature.asc Description: 这是信件的数 字签名部分
[opensuse] Saving configuration in LiveDVD
Hi I want to use openSuse Live DVD as a safe way to browse the internet, and i need some way to save the configuration in order not to have to reconfigure every time i start the computer. Is that posible? Thank you in advance Charalampos Alexopoulos -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP
Anders Norrbring wrote: ByteEnable wrote: Hi, I'm using OpenSUSE 10.2 and my clock is running too fast. I turned on NTP but NTP only works when its first run, then defaults back to the local clock, which is the clock that is running too fast. This is a problem specific to 10.2. I've had OpenSUSE 10.1, Fedora Core 5 and 6 on this same hardware without issues. Are you possibly running this in a VMware virtual machine? If you are, add 'clock=pit' into your grub boot parameters. It's a known VMware issue. I have the same problem with one of my machines, the clock runs way too fast. I have to run rcntp restart every 10 minutes to keep it somehow adjusted... -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. - Jan L.A. Van De Snepscheut -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP
Jan Karjalainen a écrit : Anders Norrbring wrote: ByteEnable wrote: Hi, I'm using OpenSUSE 10.2 and my clock is running too fast. I turned on NTP but NTP only works when its first run, then defaults back to the local clock, which is the clock that is running too fast. This is a problem specific to 10.2. I've had OpenSUSE 10.1, Fedora Core 5 and 6 on this same hardware without issues. Are you possibly running this in a VMware virtual machine? If you are, add 'clock=pit' into your grub boot parameters. It's a known VMware issue. I have the same problem with one of my machines, the clock runs way too fast. I have to run rcntp restart every 10 minutes to keep it somehow adjusted... ntpd is made to cope with this, but I suspect there is a limit to the fix it can do :-) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/mediawiki/index.php/GPS_Lowrance_GO -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP
On Saturday 16 December 2006 00:37, Jan Karjalainen wrote: I have the same problem with one of my machines, the clock runs way too fast. I have to run rcntp restart every 10 minutes to keep it somehow adjusted... That's silly. Just run the daemon, that's what its for. man ntpd -- _ John Andersen pgpgEXYuB5Lud.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP
John Andersen wrote: On Saturday 16 December 2006 00:37, Jan Karjalainen wrote: I have the same problem with one of my machines, the clock runs way too fast. I have to run rcntp restart every 10 minutes to keep it somehow adjusted... That's silly. Just run the daemon, that's what its for. man ntpd Silly is that if I let ntp run by itself, the clock will be off by hours after only one day... -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. - Jan L.A. Van De Snepscheut -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Suspend to ram with HP nx6125 on Suse 10.2
On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 00:27 +0100, Michal Hlavac wrote: hello, has anybody working suspend to ram on HP nx6125 notebook??? I have suspend-to-ram and suspend-to-disc working pretty fine on my nx6125 under 10.1. It's the resume-from-ram and resume-from-disc that won't work :-) Hans -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP
On Saturday 16 December 2006 01:03, Jan Karjalainen wrote: John Andersen wrote: On Saturday 16 December 2006 00:37, Jan Karjalainen wrote: I have the same problem with one of my machines, the clock runs way too fast. I have to run rcntp restart every 10 minutes to keep it somehow adjusted... That's silly. Just run the daemon, that's what its for. man ntpd Silly is that if I let ntp run by itself, the clock will be off by hours after only one day... I think you are confusing the command line ntp with the always running and always correcting ntpd. You have to configure ntpd by adding server lines in /etc/ntp.conf but once you do that if your clock is close at boot time it will keep it in sync forever. But perhaps the bets solution is to find out why your clock runs that fast. -- _ John Andersen pgp8OGxS7VsNP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP
John Andersen wrote: On Saturday 16 December 2006 00:37, Jan Karjalainen wrote: I have the same problem with one of my machines, the clock runs way too fast. I have to run rcntp restart every 10 minutes to keep it somehow adjusted... That's silly. Just run the daemon, that's what its for. man ntpd Thats not silly, running ntpd every 10 minutes is silly. Clearly there is a problem with his machine. I don't think NTPD is really intended for this situation. Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP
On Saturday 16 December 2006 01:30, Mark Hounschell wrote: John Andersen wrote: On Saturday 16 December 2006 00:37, Jan Karjalainen wrote: I have the same problem with one of my machines, the clock runs way too fast. I have to run rcntp restart every 10 minutes to keep it somehow adjusted... That's silly. Just run the daemon, that's what its for. man ntpd Thats not silly, running ntpd every 10 minutes is silly. Clearly there is a problem with his machine. I don't think NTPD is really intended for this situation. Mark Sigh... Nobody suggested he run nptd every ten minutes. Its a daemon. (that's why it has a d on the end of the name). It runs continuously. Its intended for PRECISELY this sort of thing. -- _ John Andersen pgpfkSlogeizS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] article about Midnight Commander - SOLVED
Hylton Conacher(ZR1HPC) wrote: Carlos E. R. wrote: El 2006-12-13 a las 16:14 +0200, Hylton Conacher(ZR1HPC) escribió: Had a look in the file and found the StarOffice line. Commented out what was there and inserted the above. Viola, now when I Enter or double click on a selected file it opens up in OOo, provided of course I am using an xterm in KDE. Tnx Carlos. PS: If I were to open mc in a terminal(Ctrl-Alt-Fx) after signing into KDE, how could I still get the file to open in the appropiate viewer under KDE ie on the graphical terminal? That's not easy, you have to inform the program what X terminal to use - in Linux there can be many, so that's not simple to automate. As with most of Linux it aint easy, but it can be done :) HOW Can I open documents in the graphical interface ie (Ctrl-Alt-F7) from using the cli? True Linuxers use the cli and find it OK, right? So why is it so difficult to explain how to open a file in the designated viewer? Wouild it not be something like $ /document/dir/docname :0 to open the document in Ctrl-Alt-F7? If the document was to be opened in Ctrl-Alt-F8 then wouldn't it be $ /document/dir/docname :1 ? I have not tried any of this as I have reached the limits of my knowledge/experience and need input. Tnx Will, Leendert et al, For the moment, the replies answer the question I raised. Tnx -- Using SuSE 9.2 Professional with KDE and Mozilla Mail 1.7.13 Linux user # 229959 at http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Is the list owner around?
Hi, On Saturday, December 16, 2006 at 00:43:57, Carlos E. R. wrote: We need help in the Spanish list, a chap is bouncing mail and the list owner hasn't answered yet for two days at least. Ive answered you on thursday that i need the mail with full headers.. Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, http://hennevogel.de To die. In the rain. Alone. Ernest Hemingway -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Where are system update instructions? Need to update 10.0-10.2 without CD-drive.
Hi! I have a test server that is running 10.0 and it does not have a CD/DVD drive. It does however have a floppy drive (but it's not used and unclear if it is even connected :-) So, how do I update that 10.0 to 10.2? I have another 10.0 on the network as well as 10.2 in a VMware and I can use those both to help here. But I have no idea how to do this. If I open System update from YaST, it want's to update my system to 10.0... which is what I want to update from! (And further more, it says it wants to update 17 packages even though I just updated everything with smart...) I searched to OpenSUSE site/wiki for instructions on how to update old version of openSUSE to newer one. I could not find the information. I know, I'm probably blind and just didn't see it. Please, can somebody point me to the right direction? -- HG. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Where are system update instructions? Need to update 10.0-10.2 without CD-drive.
HG a écrit : Hi! I have a test server that is running 10.0 and it does not have a CD/DVD drive. It does however have a floppy drive (but it's not used and unclear if it is even connected :-) So, how do I update that 10.0 to 10.2? I have another 10.0 on the network as well as 10.2 in a VMware and I can use those both to help here. But I have no idea how to do this. If I open System update from YaST, it want's to update my system to 10.0... which is what I want to update from! (And further more, it says it wants to update 17 packages even though I just updated everything with smart...) I searched to OpenSUSE site/wiki for instructions on how to update old version of openSUSE to newer one. I could not find the information. I know, I'm probably blind and just didn't see it. Please, can somebody point me to the right direction? the best way, IMHO is to copy the files /boot/.../linux and initrd from any install cd/dvd of opensuse on a partition you wont erase in the install process (do this by the net, these files are probably downloadable also) then start them with the grub boot of 10.0, you will be in the install yast and can install from the net. better you keep your 10.0 around and use an other partition for the new install jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/mediawiki/index.php/GPS_Lowrance_GO -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP
Jan Karjalainen wrote: I think you are confusing the command line ntp with the always running and always correcting ntpd. You have to configure ntpd by adding server lines in /etc/ntp.conf but once you do that if your clock is close at boot time it will keep it in sync forever. But perhaps the bets solution is to find out why your clock runs that fast. I have the ntp daemon configured with a working server, and it produces no error logs. It´s just that the clock is really running way too fast for the ntp daemon to work. If I let the ntp daemon run as it is supposed to, the clock will be off by hours after one day. Adding rcntp restart every 10 minutes to crontab helps, but does not solve the problem with the fast clock. It only helps because the daemon will set the time at start. You might as well execute ntpdate in a cronjob. Is this an installation running within a VM? I have the same phenomenon with one of my vmware installations. xntpd doesn't work on that system either. Sandy -- List replies only please! Please address PMs to: news-reply2 (@) japantest (.) homelinux (.) com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP
On Saturday 16 December 2006 02:32, Sandy Drobic wrote: It only helps because the daemon will set the time at start. You might as well execute ntpdate in a cronjob. Correction: The daemon will set the time continuously. -- _ John Andersen pgpMF7ifueMgf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP
On Saturday 16 December 2006 10:37, Jan Karjalainen wrote: Anders Norrbring wrote: ByteEnable wrote: Hi, I'm using OpenSUSE 10.2 and my clock is running too fast. I turned on NTP but NTP only works when its first run, then defaults back to the local clock, which is the clock that is running too fast. This is a problem specific to 10.2. I've had OpenSUSE 10.1, Fedora Core 5 and 6 on this same hardware without issues. Are you possibly running this in a VMware virtual machine? If you are, add 'clock=pit' into your grub boot parameters. It's a known VMware issue. I have the same problem with one of my machines, the clock runs way too fast. I have to run rcntp restart every 10 minutes to keep it somehow adjusted... In my experiences ntp deamon adjust the time only if the difference is less than 3600 seconds. You can see in /var/log/ntp if there is a message like I had it: time correction of -3600 seconds exceeds sanity limit (1000); set clock manually to the correct UTC time. My inital time-problem with a system clock running way too fast was discussed here: http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2006-Mar/2932.html The suggested and helpful solution by Carlos E.R. in http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2006-Mar/3273.html was: setup the clock by your prefered method hwclock --systohc rm /etc/adjtime It's important to remove /etc/adjtime after adjusting the time manually. The system will create a new /etc/adjtime later. Since I did the above my clock is as perfect as can be. regards Danie -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Switzerland professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com Madagascar special: http://www.sanic.ch -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP
On Saturday 16 December 2006 02:42, Daniel Bauer wrote: In my experiences ntp deamon adjust the time only if the difference is less than 3600 seconds. You can see in /var/log/ntp if there is a message like I had it: time correction of -3600 seconds exceeds sanity limit (1000); set clock manually to the correct UTC time. That's what command line switch -g is for. -- _ John Andersen pgp6J4deGIRs3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP
John Andersen a écrit : On Saturday 16 December 2006 02:42, Daniel Bauer wrote: In my experiences ntp deamon adjust the time only if the difference is less than 3600 seconds. You can see in /var/log/ntp if there is a message like I had it: time correction of -3600 seconds exceeds sanity limit (1000); set clock manually to the correct UTC time. That's what command line switch -g is for. RTFM: Most operating systems and hardware of today incorporate a time-of-year (TOY) chip to maintain the time during periods when the power is off. When the machine is booted, the chip is used to initialize the operating system time. After the machine has synchronized to a NTP server, the operating system corrects the chip from time to time. In case there is no TOY chip or for some reason its time is more than 1000s from the server time, ntpd assumes something must be terribly wrong and the only reliable action is for the operator to intervene and set the clock by hand. This causes ntpd to exit with a panic message to the system log. The -g option overrides this check and the clock will be set to the server time regardless of the chip time. However, and to protect against broken hardware, such as when the CMOS battery fails or theclock counter becomes defective, once the clock has been set, an error greater than 1000s will cause ntpd to exit anyway. jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/mediawiki/index.php/GPS_Lowrance_GO -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP
Sandy Drobic wrote: Jan Karjalainen wrote: I think you are confusing the command line ntp with the always running and always correcting ntpd. You have to configure ntpd by adding server lines in /etc/ntp.conf but once you do that if your clock is close at boot time it will keep it in sync forever. But perhaps the bets solution is to find out why your clock runs that fast. I have the ntp daemon configured with a working server, and it produces no error logs. It´s just that the clock is really running way too fast for the ntp daemon to work. If I let the ntp daemon run as it is supposed to, the clock will be off by hours after one day. Adding rcntp restart every 10 minutes to crontab helps, but does not solve the problem with the fast clock. It only helps because the daemon will set the time at start. You might as well execute ntpdate in a cronjob. Is this an installation running within a VM? I have the same phenomenon with one of my vmware installations. xntpd doesn't work on that system either. Sandy No, it´s not a VM. -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is. - Jan L.A. Van De Snepscheut -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Is the list owner around?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2006-12-16 at 12:03 +0100, Henne Vogelsang wrote: On Saturday, December 16, 2006 at 00:43:57, Carlos E. R. wrote: We need help in the Spanish list, a chap is bouncing mail and the list owner hasn't answered yet for two days at least. Ive answered you on thursday that i need the mail with full headers.. Sorry, I didn't get that email. I will check later if it was clasified as spam, but I haven't found it so far. If you know the mail id, I can do a system wide search for it. But there are no headers, none from the list - that's why I didn't send it first time: it's just a message with the subject line from a post to the list (so that we know it generates as a bounce), and a body that states in Spanish that he has changed his address and the normal one (the one that is subscribed, I suppose) is no longer active. It was made from outlook. I have sent you a private copy of one right now. We can only assume that the subscribed address is cticorporativo at fibertel.com.ar, and you can see from what others are saying here that they are also getting those bounces, it's not only me. You will probably receive some yourself from your posts. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFg+IOtTMYHG2NR9URAnEnAJ9L1WkgzvkTH41taRmQjDR4WZ/lOACcDuEK aQwLpi3ys4/e6WaBCGQlRaA= =bboG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP
John Andersen wrote: On Saturday 16 December 2006 02:32, Sandy Drobic wrote: It only helps because the daemon will set the time at start. You might as well execute ntpdate in a cronjob. Correction: The daemon will set the time continuously. In theory. (^-^) On most of my system it works flawlessly. Just on this one, nothing happens. For a test I even set logconfig = all logfile = /var/log/ntp /var/log/ntp: 16 Dec 13:09:26 ntpd[3915]: system event 'event_restart' (0x01) status 'sync_alarm, sync_unspec, 1 event, event_unspec' (0xc010) There are no sync events recorded aside at the start of the xntpd. Since I am only using it to test the update from Suse 9.2 to Suse 10.2 I won't debug this any further. I don't see this with a 10.2 kernel. Sandy -- List replies only please! Please address PMs to: news-reply2 (@) japantest (.) homelinux (.) com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] OpenOffice_org-2.0.4-1.10
I see that there is now a set of OpenOffice_org-2.0.4-1.10 packages in suse/projects/OpenOffice.org/10.2-i386/ What is the difference between these and the 2.0.4-38 packages that come with openSUSE 10.2? Is it anything to do with the improved compatibility with Microsoft Office files promised for the Novell edition of OOo? Mike -- Michael Leuty Nottingham, UK -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Is the list owner around?
Hi, On Saturday, December 16, 2006 at 13:09:49, Carlos E. R. wrote: The Saturday 2006-12-16 at 12:03 +0100, Henne Vogelsang wrote: On Saturday, December 16, 2006 at 00:43:57, Carlos E. R. wrote: We need help in the Spanish list, a chap is bouncing mail and the list owner hasn't answered yet for two days at least. Ive answered you on thursday that i need the mail with full headers.. Sorry, I didn't get that email. I will check later if it was clasified as spam, but I haven't found it so far. If you know the mail id, I can do a system wide search for it. Strange... But there are no headers, none from the list Well at least there will be some transports i can look at. I have sent you a private copy of one right now. Good. I will have a look. We can only assume that the subscribed address is cticorporativo at fibertel.com.ar It is not and there is also nothing that is similar to it. Thats why i need to digg deeper. There are a couple of com.ar subscriptions (only one that is subscribed to opensuse and opensuse-es) but i need some headers to double check. Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, http://hennevogel.de To die. In the rain. Alone. Ernest Hemingway -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2006-12-16 at 01:37 -0900, John Andersen wrote: I have to run rcntp restart every 10 minutes to keep it somehow adjusted... That's silly. Just run the daemon, that's what its for. man ntpd Thats not silly, running ntpd every 10 minutes is silly. Clearly there is a problem with his machine. I don't think NTPD is really intended for this situation. Sigh... Nobody suggested he run nptd every ten minutes. Its a daemon. (that's why it has a d on the end of the name). It runs continuously. Its intended for PRECISELY this sort of thing. But within limits. After setting the clock once, the clock is running so fast that ntpd can't cope. It will try to slew the clock back, but it does so slowly. Soon the time will be out of range, and ntpd will stop trying because it has already gone beyond its sanity limit. Thus the user restarts it. rcntp restart works in this situation because it sets the clock at the start even if the jump is big: no sanity checks during service start. It would be better to use rcntp ntptimeset as a cron job every 5 or 10 minutes in this situation as a hack till the real problem can be found. Something in the kernel, I suppose. It should go to bugzilla, I think. The trick I often say of removing the /etc/adjtime will not work this time, because the problem arises after the system is running and having adjusted the time properly, I understand. Try erasing ntpd adjustments, not sure exactly which ATM. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFg/5ZtTMYHG2NR9URAtzFAJ9xEaHNfcWviDluKOjFTts9HkdufwCeIRYA E3ItxctNJ61Itl53CASFhZ8= =aO1W -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Google Earth and OpenSuse 10.2
Op zaterdag 16 december 2006 15:10, schreef John Meyer: Okay, I've had problems with Google Earth in both GNOME and KDE. It crashes the current session and forces me back to the login page (and by crash, I mean the screen goes black and I find myself at the login screen again). Anybody had this problem happen to them? No i don't have any problems? GJ -- openSUSE: 10.2 KDE: 3.5.5 release 45 Kernel: 2.6.18.2-34-default -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Google Earth and OpenSuse 10.2
On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 07:10 -0700, John Meyer wrote: Okay, I've had problems with Google Earth in both GNOME and KDE. It crashes the current session and forces me back to the login page (and by crash, I mean the screen goes black and I find myself at the login screen again). Anybody had this problem happen to them? I just loaded it on my rather old laptop and although it runs rather slow it does not crash me out of my login session. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Google Earth and OpenSuse 10.2
Kenneth Schneider wrote: On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 07:10 -0700, John Meyer wrote: Okay, I've had problems with Google Earth in both GNOME and KDE. It crashes the current session and forces me back to the login page (and by crash, I mean the screen goes black and I find myself at the login screen again). Anybody had this problem happen to them? I just loaded it on my rather old laptop and although it runs rather slow it does not crash me out of my login session. BTW, doing googleearth 2googleerrors.text doesn't produce any output, so I can't show any errors. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Is the list owner around?
On Saturday 16 December 2006 08:59, Henne Vogelsang wrote: We can only assume that the subscribed address is cticorporativo at fibertel.com.ar It is not and there is also nothing that is similar to it. Thats why i need to digg deeper. There are a couple of com.ar subscriptions (only one that is subscribed to opensuse and opensuse-es) but i need some headers to double check. How about this address? [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP
Daniel Bauer wrote: On Saturday 16 December 2006 10:37, Jan Karjalainen wrote: Anders Norrbring wrote: ByteEnable wrote: Hi, I'm using OpenSUSE 10.2 and my clock is running too fast. I turned on NTP but NTP only works when its first run, then defaults back to the local clock, which is the clock that is running too fast. This is a problem specific to 10.2. I've had OpenSUSE 10.1, Fedora Core 5 and 6 on this same hardware without issues. Are you possibly running this in a VMware virtual machine? If you are, add 'clock=pit' into your grub boot parameters. It's a known VMware issue. I have the same problem with one of my machines, the clock runs way too fast. I have to run rcntp restart every 10 minutes to keep it somehow adjusted... In my experiences ntp deamon adjust the time only if the difference is less than 3600 seconds. You can see in /var/log/ntp if there is a message like I had it: time correction of -3600 seconds exceeds sanity limit (1000); set clock manually to the correct UTC time. My inital time-problem with a system clock running way too fast was discussed here: http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2006-Mar/2932.html The suggested and helpful solution by Carlos E.R. in http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2006-Mar/3273.html was: setup the clock by your prefered method hwclock --systohc rm /etc/adjtime It's important to remove /etc/adjtime after adjusting the time manually. The system will create a new /etc/adjtime later. Since I did the above my clock is as perfect as can be. regards Danie I've tried what you have stated above. It does not help. After five hours the clock was still off by -1060.096981 seconds according to ntpdate time-a.nist.gov. I've tried NTP daemon too: 14 Dec 22:26:39 ntpd[12811]: synchronized to 128.138.140.44, stratum 1 14 Dec 22:26:37 ntpd[12811]: time reset -1.472229 s 14 Dec 22:26:37 ntpd[12811]: kernel time sync enabled 0001 14 Dec 22:28:18 ntpd[12811]: synchronized to 128.138.140.44, stratum 1 14 Dec 22:29:07 ntpd[12811]: no servers reachable 14 Dec 22:29:45 ntpd[12811]: synchronized to 129.6.15.29, stratum 1 14 Dec 22:30:24 ntpd[12811]: no servers reachable 14 Dec 22:30:33 ntpd[12811]: synchronized to 128.138.140.44, stratum 1 14 Dec 22:31:15 ntpd[12811]: synchronized to LOCAL(0), stratum 10 14 Dec 22:32:56 ntpd[12811]: synchronized to 128.138.140.44, stratum 1 14 Dec 22:33:59 ntpd[12811]: synchronized to LOCAL(0), stratum 10 14 Dec 22:35:15 ntpd[12811]: ntpd exiting on signal 15 Bottom line is that something in OpenSUSE 10.2 is messed up! Too many people complaining about the same issue. Again, I've only had this issue with OpenSUSE 10.2, other Linux distro's have worked flawlessly. Byte -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP
jdd wrote: John Andersen a écrit : On Saturday 16 December 2006 02:42, Daniel Bauer wrote: In my experiences ntp deamon adjust the time only if the difference is less than 3600 seconds. You can see in /var/log/ntp if there is a message like I had it: time correction of -3600 seconds exceeds sanity limit (1000); set clock manually to the correct UTC time. That's what command line switch -g is for. RTFM: Most operating systems and hardware of today incorporate a time-of-year (TOY) chip to maintain the time during periods when the power is off. When the machine is booted, the chip is used to initialize the operating system time. After the machine has synchronized to a NTP server, the operating system corrects the chip from time to time. In case there is no TOY chip or for some reason its time is more than 1000s from the server time, ntpd assumes something must be terribly wrong and the only reliable action is for the operator to intervene and set the clock by hand. This causes ntpd to exit with a panic message to the system log. The -g option overrides this check and the clock will be set to the server time regardless of the chip time. However, and to protect against broken hardware, such as when the CMOS battery fails or theclock counter becomes defective, once the clock has been set, an error greater than 1000s will cause ntpd to exit anyway. jdd Dude, my hardware is not broke! OpenSUSE 10.2 is broke! Byte -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP
ByteEnable wrote: Daniel Bauer wrote: On Saturday 16 December 2006 10:37, Jan Karjalainen wrote: Anders Norrbring wrote: ByteEnable wrote: Hi, I'm using OpenSUSE 10.2 and my clock is running too fast. I turned on NTP but NTP only works when its first run, then defaults back to the local clock, which is the clock that is running too fast. This is a problem specific to 10.2. I've had OpenSUSE 10.1, Fedora Core 5 and 6 on this same hardware without issues. Are you possibly running this in a VMware virtual machine? If you are, add 'clock=pit' into your grub boot parameters. It's a known VMware issue. I have the same problem with one of my machines, the clock runs way too fast. I have to run rcntp restart every 10 minutes to keep it somehow adjusted... In my experiences ntp deamon adjust the time only if the difference is less than 3600 seconds. You can see in /var/log/ntp if there is a message like I had it: time correction of -3600 seconds exceeds sanity limit (1000); set clock manually to the correct UTC time. My inital time-problem with a system clock running way too fast was discussed here: http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2006-Mar/2932.html The suggested and helpful solution by Carlos E.R. in http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2006-Mar/3273.html was: setup the clock by your prefered method hwclock --systohc rm /etc/adjtime It's important to remove /etc/adjtime after adjusting the time manually. The system will create a new /etc/adjtime later. Since I did the above my clock is as perfect as can be. regards Danie I've tried what you have stated above. It does not help. After five hours the clock was still off by -1060.096981 seconds according to ntpdate time-a.nist.gov. I've tried NTP daemon too: 14 Dec 22:26:39 ntpd[12811]: synchronized to 128.138.140.44, stratum 1 14 Dec 22:26:37 ntpd[12811]: time reset -1.472229 s 14 Dec 22:26:37 ntpd[12811]: kernel time sync enabled 0001 14 Dec 22:28:18 ntpd[12811]: synchronized to 128.138.140.44, stratum 1 14 Dec 22:29:07 ntpd[12811]: no servers reachable 14 Dec 22:29:45 ntpd[12811]: synchronized to 129.6.15.29, stratum 1 14 Dec 22:30:24 ntpd[12811]: no servers reachable 14 Dec 22:30:33 ntpd[12811]: synchronized to 128.138.140.44, stratum 1 14 Dec 22:31:15 ntpd[12811]: synchronized to LOCAL(0), stratum 10 14 Dec 22:32:56 ntpd[12811]: synchronized to 128.138.140.44, stratum 1 14 Dec 22:33:59 ntpd[12811]: synchronized to LOCAL(0), stratum 10 14 Dec 22:35:15 ntpd[12811]: ntpd exiting on signal 15 Bottom line is that something in OpenSUSE 10.2 is messed up! Too many people complaining about the same issue. Again, I've only had this issue with OpenSUSE 10.2, other Linux distro's have worked flawlessly. Byte You're probably wrong. I run 18 servers on 10.2, both physical and virtual under VMware Server and VMware ESX, and I don't have any problems whatsoever with neither the clock nor the ntpd subsystem. Bottom line; SUSE works fine, but on your particular system, it doesn't. -- Anders Norrbring Norrbring Consulting smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP
ByteEnable a écrit : Dude, my hardware is not broke! OpenSUSE 10.2 is broke! or the particular ntp version of 10.2... jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/mediawiki/index.php/GPS_Lowrance_GO -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP
ByteEnable wrote: [8] Dude, my hardware is not broke! OpenSUSE 10.2 is broke! Byte Watch the attitude... If you don't like it the way it is, either rewrite openSUSE, or change distro, it's your choice. -- Anders Norrbring Norrbring Consulting smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [opensuse] Stupid question?
On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 08:51 +0200, Janne Karhunen wrote: On Saturday 16 December 2006 00:18, Stevens wrote: re: backwards compatability: Will rpms for 10.1 run on 10.2? It's actually quite sad that all packaging effort in Linux needs to be endlessly replicated. Same thing done over and over again for years. Time for Novell propose something radical in rpm.org (now that it's getting on again)? -- // Janne I don't think any software will ever be in a position to be compatible with all older versions, however the buildservice goes a long way towards not repeating previosly done work. if an RPM gets loaded into the buildservice and a new distro gets added to the compile for list it will do everything it can to migrate that RPM to the new distro, possibly in the future this will be automatic. James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Power off problem
Hey SuSE guys/girls, Anyone have any luck in finding the problem causing 10.2 not to power down the machine? As a couple of others here have had happen, I too installed 10.2, but it will not power off the computer. It will shutdown, but not power off as with earlier versions. It's a reasonably new mobo of which I've never had a problem with before with any of the versions of SUSE since 7.2. The acpi is rock solid, has always worked except for the present build. Kernel? Something else? I remember seeing some errors during bootup about loading some kernel modules, but don't remember what they were. It's a test machine, so I'm not close to it presently. It does appear to be a bug though. I'm suspecting some new support for a new acpi version which caused loss of support for previous versions or just a buggy kernel? Just a thought. bye, Lee -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2006-12-16 at 16:38 +0100, jdd wrote: Dude, my hardware is not broke! OpenSUSE 10.2 is broke! or the particular ntp version of 10.2... That problem of the clock going to fast has appeared and dissapeared randomly over the versions, but I have no idea why or what could be the cause. Some change in the kernel, I guess. I don't think it is ntpd, but rather that ntpd is unable to compensate the problem - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFhBdLtTMYHG2NR9URAttQAJ95wHE73aPC0Go7A39BPQaeYruWLwCfaJqa TiDiU806A380gmrJACRavzg= =shxk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 boot problem: need noresume in grub after changing partition table (on non-boot drive)
On Friday 15 December 2006 13:23, Elvis Chen wrote: hi all, snip I/O error reading swsusp image. Initially I thought this was a swap-partition problem. Since I was able to boot into fail-safe mode, I doubled checked my /etc/fstab and made sure that no swap partition is allocated on my PATA drive. Still, the regular boot process cannot be completed. Since I can boot with fail-safe mode, I decided to play with the GRUB option. I found that if I put noresume into my boot option, the Suse will boot with no ill-effect. So, I suppose somehow the suspend/resume function (btw, is it new to Suse 10.0?) is causing the problem, but I have no idea of how/where to fix it. The file /etc/suspend.conf is all commented out and with no reference to /dev/hda. Can anyone please shed some light into this issue? tia, As root, you'll need to check /boot/grub/menu.lst. With an editor is probably quickest but you can get to it through YaST, System, Boot Loader. Your default boot partition has 'resume=/dev/hda1' or similar. That should be a /swap partition. You probably need to change that to reflect your new disk layout. I bet you had a /swap partition on your PATA drive and its gone now. Don't forget to remove/stop using the 'noresume' parameter on the boot line.!.! Stan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Power off problem
Hey SuSE guys/girls, Anyone have any luck in finding the problem causing 10.2 not to power down the machine? As a couple of others here have had happen, I too installed 10.2, but it will not power off the computer. It will shutdown, but not power off as with earlier versions. It's a reasonably new mobo of which I've never had a problem with before with any of the versions of SUSE since 7.2. The acpi is rock solid, has always worked except for the present build. Kernel? Something else? I remember seeing some errors during bootup about loading some kernel modules, but don't remember what they were. It's a test machine, so I'm not close to it presently. It does appear to be a bug though. I'm suspecting some new support for a new acpi version which caused loss of support for previous versions or just a buggy kernel? Just a thought. bye, Lee Ok, answering my own email. Maybe this will help others, maybe not. It seems that either the kernel or SUSE's kernel or SUSE in general is using more of the computer's BIOS settings than before. I decided to try an experiment by changing the BIOS setting of ACPI aware OS? to yes. It has always been no until 10.2, because basically Linux pays very little attention to BIOS settings. Doesn't seem to be the case now, because making this change makes the computer power off normally. bye -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Where are system update instructions? Need to update 10.0-10.2 without CD-drive.
Hi! Thanks for the tip. But... On 12/16/06, John Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 16 December 2006 02:05, HG wrote: But I have no idea how to do this. If I open System update from YaST, it want's to update my system to 10.0... which is what I want to update from! Point an installation source to a 10.2 repository and then try the System Update... In the mean time, I looked around SUSE help again. I did found a paragraph of the system update. It says: Update the version of SUSE Linux installed on your system with 'System Update'. During operation, you can only update application software, not the base system. Don't those two contradict? First says, you use System Update to install the version of SUSE, but then next says, that it can not do that. Great. Then it goes on to say: To update the base system, boot the computer from an installation medium, such as CD. When selecting the installation mode in YaST, select 'Update an Existing System'. What is the point of System Update in YaST? So it means that I need to boot from something. Now, I can boot from network and possibly from floppies. How do I boot from network and start SUSE installation? Should be quite easy as it's only a few clicks in Knoppix... I'm thinking that as I have the ISO image on the other server, there should be easy way to make the other server boot from net and just start on the installation (I think that's about how knoppix does it.). Jdd, thanks for your tip also. I do not have any spare partitions where I could copy stuff (or keep 10.0 around) so I have to be able to boot from the net. -- HG. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Power off problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2006-12-16 at 11:08 -0500, BandiPat wrote: Anyone have any luck in finding the problem causing 10.2 not to power down the machine? As a couple of others here have had happen, I too installed 10.2, but it will not power off the computer. It will shutdown, but not power off as with earlier versions. It's a reasonably new mobo of which I've never had a problem with before with any of the versions of SUSE since 7.2. The acpi is rock solid, has always worked except for the present build. Kernel? Something else? I had a similar problem with 7.something, time ago. It would not power off, I had to wait half a year for the next version to solve the problem. It worked previously, and it worked later. I remember seeing some errors during bootup about loading some kernel modules, but don't remember what they were. You should check them. They should be in /var/log/boot.something. Ok, answering my own email. I was going to say that you sent it twice :-P Maybe this will help others, maybe not. It seems that either the kernel or SUSE's kernel or SUSE in general is using more of the computer's BIOS settings than before. I decided to try an experiment by changing the BIOS setting of ACPI aware OS? to yes. It has always been no until 10.2, because basically Linux pays very little attention to BIOS settings. Doesn't seem to be the case now, because making this change makes the computer power off normally. Interesting. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFhB6xtTMYHG2NR9URAnIhAJ9NT2cKbn1p/FXdm5OgRzBcGv1h4wCeI6mO ik1AYieU1hPSVdFRd7P7GHw= =Y2XC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP
On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 16:56 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2006-12-16 at 16:38 +0100, jdd wrote: Dude, my hardware is not broke! OpenSUSE 10.2 is broke! Well in this entire thread, unless I missed it, did he ever really say he DID remove /etc/adjtime properly? I saw a won't work...but did he try? If he removes it, manually sets the time and removes it once again, will the pc keep reasonably close time on it's own? ie WITHOUT ntpd? Tom -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 Preorder
On Thursday 14 December 2006 21:23, Paul Ollion wrote: Thank you for this information, I could find it, but the manual appears to be in German and I am not able to read this language. I can manage with French or English only. is there another solution to buy a 10.2 boxed set ? They also have a version in English. Here is the direct link: http://www.edv-buchversand.de/suse/product.php?cnt=productid=sus171lng= Best regards, Stelian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Where are system update instructions? Need to update 10.0-10.2 without CD-drive.
On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 18:26 +0200, HG wrote: Hi! Thanks for the tip. But... In the mean time, I looked around SUSE help again. I did found a paragraph of the system update. It says: Update the version of SUSE Linux installed on your system with 'System Update'. During operation, you can only update application software, not the base system. Don't those two contradict? First says, you use System Update to install the version of SUSE, but then next says, that it can not do that. Great. Then it goes on to say: To update the base system, boot the computer from an installation medium, such as CD. When selecting the installation mode in YaST, select 'Update an Existing System'. What is the point of System Update in YaST? So it means that I need to boot from something. Now, I can boot from network and possibly from floppies. How do I boot from network and start SUSE installation? Should be quite easy as it's only a few clicks in Knoppix... I'm thinking that as I have the ISO image on the other server, there should be easy way to make the other server boot from net and just start on the installation (I think that's about how knoppix does it.). Jdd, thanks for your tip also. I do not have any spare partitions where I could copy stuff (or keep 10.0 around) so I have to be able to boot from the net. Is there no way to temporarily add a CD/DVD reader just to install the newer version? Even a USB external drive would do. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Google Earth and OpenSuse 10.2
On Sat December 16 2006 06:10, John Meyer wrote: Okay, I've had problems with Google Earth in both GNOME and KDE. It crashes the current session and forces me back to the login page (and by crash, I mean the screen goes black and I find myself at the login screen again). Anybody had this problem happen to them? You don't say what versions your running. I'm running SUSE 10.0, KDE 3.5.4 level a with Google Earth 4.0.2091 (beta). Has not crashed yet. Don't use GNOME. System is PIII 866MHZ, 512 memory. Sorry I cannot help more. -- Russ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP
On Sat December 16 2006 10:21 am, ByteEnable scratched these words onto a coconut shell, hoping for an answer: Snip Bottom line is that something in OpenSUSE 10.2 is messed up! Too many people complaining about the same issue. Again, I've only had this issue with OpenSUSE 10.2, other Linux distro's have worked flawlessly. Gee, two out of , how many 10k, more? , people have this problem ? Suse 10.2 must be really messed up. sigh I suspect the guys are right and there is simply something about your setup that doesn't work as expected. If other distros work perfectly.. well go there , wait for a Suse 10.2 update , or whatever.. it wont help your problem to get this group mad at you, or discount what you say, now will it? -- j -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Where are system update instructions? Need to update 10.0-10.2 without CD-drive.
On Saturday 16 December 2006 17:26, HG wrote: So it means that I need to boot from something. Now, I can boot from The way I installed 10.2 on my pc is: put linux and initrd from 10.2's boot.iso somewhere on a partition, made an entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst pointing to both, and rebooted. Here's the entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst: --8-- title OpenSUSE Linux 10.2 Installation - gwdg kernel (hd0,1)/linux vga=0x346 install=http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/10.2/repo/oss splash=silent showopts initrd (hd0,1)/initrd --8-- Please note: - Change the drive and path to linux/initrd according to your situation. - Perhaps choose a different mirror. - The videomode (0x346) may not be supported by your video card. Supply a supported video mode. It is possible that this does not work if the initrd does not contain the required drivers for your hardware (e.g. NIC). Cheers, Leen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2006-12-16 at 09:56 -0700, Tom Patton wrote: Well in this entire thread, unless I missed it, did he ever really say he DID remove /etc/adjtime properly? I saw a won't work...but did he try? My crystal ball says it won't. O:-) If he removes it, manually sets the time and removes it once again, will the pc keep reasonably close time on it's own? ie WITHOUT ntpd? I don't think so. Not in this case. That trick only works when the time is set wrong after booting, but it doesn't when the clock goes wrong after that precise moment. There is another trick, however, to correct the system time without ntpd, using the cmos clock periodically for the update. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFhC5ttTMYHG2NR9URAiiaAJ9h0x0v0Zp5DQJskCyHpA2/Nc/FeQCgifDO nbW6qubgQjd3qk6XR2F1zDE= =lP77 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2006-12-16 at 12:23 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat December 16 2006 10:21 am, ByteEnable scratched these words onto a coconut shell, hoping for an answer: Snip Bottom line is that something in OpenSUSE 10.2 is messed up! Too many people complaining about the same issue. Again, I've only had this issue with OpenSUSE 10.2, other Linux distro's have worked flawlessly. Gee, two out of , how many 10k, more? , people have this problem ? Suse 10.2 must be really messed up. sigh I suspect the guys are right and there is simply something about your setup that doesn't work as expected. If other distros work perfectly.. well go there , wait for a Suse 10.2 update , or whatever.. it wont help your problem to get this group mad at you, or discount what you say, now will it? Don't discount him so easily. He must be very frustrated now if it worked before and doesn't now. I have heard of this very same problem on previous SuSE versions, it is not new, and the cause is unknown - for me at least. Try to understand his situation :-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFhC8qtTMYHG2NR9URAt+ZAJ9o45PYh1P7wjcroePFzjXO3l0w9gCeMGyr OKsvCpUYGHUGNlLETYUDWxs= =X4/3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Sound not working
Hi I had this problem with Kaffiene and Amarok in releases 10.1 and 10.2. I would get sound via Yast but nothing from root or normal users. It corrected itself once I upgraded my Kaffeine RPMs etc from Packman. regards Ian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP
Carlos E. R. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2006-12-16 at 09:56 -0700, Tom Patton wrote: Well in this entire thread, unless I missed it, did he ever really say he DID remove /etc/adjtime properly? I saw a won't work...but did he try? My crystal ball says it won't. O:-) If he removes it, manually sets the time and removes it once again, will the pc keep reasonably close time on it's own? ie WITHOUT ntpd? I don't think so. Not in this case. That trick only works when the time is set wrong after booting, but it doesn't when the clock goes wrong after that precise moment. There is another trick, however, to correct the system time without ntpd, using the cmos clock periodically for the update. And also, as I suggested initially, set the boot parameter 'clock=pit'... -- Anders Norrbring Norrbring Consulting smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [opensuse] Stupid question?
On 2006-12-15 16:31, Jan Engelhardt wrote: re: backwards compatability: Will rpms for 10.1 run on 10.2? A lot of them do. The biggest 'dependency pullers' are - as always - python, perl, kde/gnome/yast/hardware-detection. So any 10.1 package that is not realted to these will probably run OOTB. Jan, that really doesn't leave very many packages :-) It left almost anything you can find to date in yourftp/suser-jengelh/SUSE-10.1-discontinued. And that's not a small list. -`J' -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Stupid question?
Will rpms for 10.1 run on 10.2? It's actually quite sad that all packaging effort in Linux needs to be endlessly replicated. Same thing done over and over again for years. Time for Novell propose something radical in rpm.org (now that it's getting on again)? Let's say we are happy with the fact that we do not need to carry _all_ over the backwards compatibility stuff like Windows does. We can do it with a few compat-*.rpms, compat symbols (`nm /lib/libc.so.6 | grep @@` and you will see). There is no problem with vendors shipping source code (we can recompile), and even with vendors choosing not doing so provide quite static binaries (e.g. DialogBlocks, Unreal Tournament) or compat environments (VMware), which also works. Anything I prefer over the Compat and DLL Hell in Windows. -`J' -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Where are system update instructions? Need to update 10.0-10.2 without CD-drive.
Hi! On 12/16/06, Kenneth Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there no way to temporarily add a CD/DVD reader just to install the newer version? Even a USB external drive would do. Physically not really (possible as that's how it was installed in the first place, but now it's too much work). USB I guess would be, well at least physically possible, but not sure about BIOS and I do not have any at hand to try. :-( Yeah, it's strange that the servers aren't that well equipped. Most of our servers only have CD (i.e. no DVD) and this one doesn't have anything. It doesn't even have a place for it. -- HG. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Is the list owner around?
On Dec 15 2006 16:34, Curtis Rey wrote: On Fri December 15 2006 15:43, Carlos E. R. wrote: Hi, We need help in the Spanish list, a chap is bouncing mail and the list owner hasn't answered yet for two days at least. Same here, it's rather annoying to say the least. My policy for mailing lists I run: everyone I catch sending such stuff gets unsubscribed without notice. Harsh politics, yes. -`J' -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Where are system update instructions? Need to update 10.0-10.2 without CD-drive.
Hi! On 12/16/06, Leendert Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 16 December 2006 17:26, HG wrote: So it means that I need to boot from something. Now, I can boot from The way I installed 10.2 on my pc is: put linux and initrd from 10.2's boot.iso somewhere on a partition, made an entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst pointing to both, and rebooted. Ah, so it can be on the same partition (as where the system is now and where the updated system should be)! Ok, I'll try this. It is possible that this does not work if the initrd does not contain the required drivers for your hardware (e.g. NIC). Yeah, this is true. But if they are not, then I probably can not do this with the floppies either. (I could not find floppies anymore, so I could not yet try if the floppy drive works or not ... sigh.) Probably works though. At least it's somehow present in the current installation. So I'll do that if I can not get your way to work. Thanks all for the tips. -- HG. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] postage stamps
Has anyone ever tried printing postage stamps in Linux? Preferably Stamps.com but whatever will do -- Michael S. Dunsavage -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Where are system update instructions? Need to update 10.0-10.2 without CD-drive.
On Saturday 16 December 2006 19:21, HG wrote: The way I installed 10.2 on my pc is: put linux and initrd from 10.2's boot.iso somewhere on a partition, made an entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst pointing to both, and rebooted. Ah, so it can be on the same partition (as where the system is now and where the updated system should be)! Indeed. There is however a point of no return, which is usually marked well by the installer. ;-) Cheers, Leen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Google Earth and OpenSuse 10.2
Russ, Two questions, below... On Saturday 16 December 2006 09:21, Russbucket wrote: On Sat December 16 2006 06:10, John Meyer wrote: Okay, I've had problems with Google Earth in both GNOME and KDE. It crashes the current session and forces me back to the login page (and by crash, I mean the screen goes black and I find myself at the login screen again). Anybody had this problem happen to them? You don't say what versions your running. I'm running SUSE 10.0, KDE 3.5.4 level a with Google Earth 4.0.2091 (beta). Has not crashed yet. Don't use GNOME. Is that Don't use GNOME! (a warning) or [I] don't use GNOME. (a statement of fact)? System is PIII 866MHZ, 512 memory. Have you the proverbial patience of a saint? In other words, isn't Google Earth dismally slow on such a machine? Sorry I cannot help more. -- Russ Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] CN=Kevin Gassiot/OU=HOU/OU=VES/O=VDGC is out of the office.
I will be out of the office starting 12/16/2006 and will not return until 01/02/2007. I will reply to your message when I return. This sucks. The Internet really needs a Vacation Extension to either SMTP (we block Vacation messages) or people's MUAs/MTAs (making them not reply to mails containing X-List headers) -`J' -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Automount DVD fails
Hy, I try setup many diferents ways to automount my data DVDs on openSUSE 10.2, but nothing works. The mount from konsole works fine, but the automount only work for cdrom drive. I read many articles for these problem, somebody tell me install ivman, others describe change the udev, but is look fine. In SuSE 10.1, the automount of DVDs works pretty good, but on 10.2 i dont understand the reason for not working. Also, i try change KDE Desktop Settings Periphals, but dont work too. If somebody help me... Tks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] CN=Kevin Gassiot/OU=HOU/OU=VES/O=VDGC is out of the office.
On Saturday 16 December 2006 10:36, Jan Engelhardt wrote: I will be out of the office starting 12/16/2006 and will not return until 01/02/2007. I will reply to your message when I return. This sucks. The Internet really needs a Vacation Extension to either SMTP (we block Vacation messages) or people's MUAs/MTAs (making them not reply to mails containing X-List headers) Nonsense. The Internet attained perfection in 1980. -`J' -- RRS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Power off problem
El Sábado, 16 de Diciembre de 2006 17:08, BandiPat escribió: Hey SuSE guys/girls, Anyone have any luck in finding the problem causing 10.2 not to power down the machine? As a couple of others here have had happen, I too installed 10.2, but it will not power off the computer. It will shutdown, but not power off as with earlier versions. I think that there is a bug report in bugzilla: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=221667 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] postage stamps
Michael S. Dunsavage wrote: Has anyone ever tried printing postage stamps in Linux? Preferably Stamps.com but whatever will do I haven't tried real stamps, just envelopes with e.g. a PP-stamp. (for Switzerland). /Per Jessen, Zürich -- http://www.spamchek.com/ - managed email security. Starting at SFr5/month/user. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Checking a missing rule for ftl.c
Hello, I have updated my system from the current DVD. http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.2/iso/torrent/openSUSE-10.2-GM-DVD-x86_64.torrent I would like to recompile the kernel for my needs. How can the following obstacle be resolved? Which dependencies are involved? sonne:/usr/src/linux # make menuconfig make -j 3 [...] make[2]: *** No rule to make target `drivers/mtd/ftl.c', needed by `drivers/mtd/ftl.o'. Stop. [...] sonne:/usr/src/linux # uname -a Linux sonne 2.6.18.2-34-default #1 SMP Mon Nov 27 11:46:27 UTC 2006 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux Why does the Makefile or package repository seem to be incomplete here? http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~baker/devices/lxr/http/source/linux/drivers/mtd/ftl.c http://www.linuxhq.com/kernel/file/drivers/mtd/ftl.c Was this file for the module Flash Translation Layer memory card driver omitted from the sources? http://lisa.cs.uni-potsdam.de/lxr/ident?i=ftl.c Regards, Markus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] postage stamps
Don't know. Have you checked over at wine yet? Michael S. Dunsavage wrote: Has anyone ever tried printing postage stamps in Linux? Preferably Stamps.com but whatever will do -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Power off problem
On Saturday 16 December 2006 12:08 pm, BandiPat wrote: Anyone have any luck in finding the problem causing 10.2 not to power down the machine? As a couple of others here have had happen, I too installed 10.2, but it will not power off the computer. It will shutdown, but not power off as with earlier versions. It's a reasonably new mobo of which I've never had a problem with before with any of the versions of SUSE since 7.2. The acpi is rock solid, has always worked except for the present build. Kernel? Something else? Hi, Check /etc/init.d/halt. In order to power off your machine halt -p needs to run. There's a conditional statement in the script to assign a value for the $command variable (which is the halt command indeed) but the switches may vary based on some conditions. If you check man halt you'll find the -p switch there. I have SUSE 10.0 and I can send you my /etc/init.d/halt if you want. HTH, Jorge -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: Re: [opensuse] test]
On Friday 15 December 2006 13:26, Kenneth Schneider wrote: Am I the only one on the list getting these auto replies from this twit? Forwarded Message From: CTI Corporativo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kenneth Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [opensuse] test Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 18:09:51 -0300 HOLA: NO RECIBI TU MAIL YA QUE ESTA CASILLA ESTA DESACTIVADA (ESTO ES UNA RESPUESTA AUTOMATICA) POR FAVOR REENVIARLO A [EMAIL PROTECTED] con copia a [EMAIL PROTECTED] Y AGENDAR ESTAS DOS DIRECCIONES COMO MI NUEVA DIRECCION DE CORREO MUCHAS GRACIAS Luciano Mari Brusco Ejecutivo de Cuenta Centro Comercial Buenos Aires. Departamento PYMES ( 011) 15 5883-2464 No. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 Preorder
On Saturday 16 December 2006 18:00, Stelian Iancu wrote: http://www.edv-buchversand.de/suse/product.php?cnt=productid=sus171lng= Thanks Stelian It appears possible toorder a 10.2 boxed set from this place. Unfortunately the Warenkorb does not work. I will try again to morrow -- Paul Ollion.Proud Linux User SuSE 9.3 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Where are system update instructions? Need to update 10.0-10.2 without CD-drive.
On 2006-12-16 10:26, HG wrote: Hi! Thanks for the tip. But... On 12/16/06, John Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 16 December 2006 02:05, HG wrote: But I have no idea how to do this. If I open System update from YaST, it want's to update my system to 10.0... which is what I want to update from! Point an installation source to a 10.2 repository and then try the System Update... snip Jdd, thanks for your tip also. I do not have any spare partitions where I could copy stuff (or keep 10.0 around) so I have to be able to boot from the net. You do not need any spare partitions if you just change your installation sources to point to 10.2 repositories. See http://en.opensuse.org/Updating_SUSE_Linux You must do: 1. change *all* repositories to 10.2 sources, including extra ones like Packman or guru. 2. ensure that *all* packages which cannot be updated are removed (the dependency check will be useful here, but you might have to wade through a lot of choices, particularly if you do not adhere to point 1.) Make sure you read and understand the warning at the top of the URL I posted above. -- The best way to accelerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 m/s² -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Stupid question?
On 2006-12-16 12:07, Jan Engelhardt wrote: On 2006-12-15 16:31, Jan Engelhardt wrote: re: backwards compatability: Will rpms for 10.1 run on 10.2? A lot of them do. The biggest 'dependency pullers' are - as always - python, perl, kde/gnome/yast/hardware-detection. So any 10.1 package that is not realted to these will probably run OOTB. Jan, that really doesn't leave very many packages :-) It left almost anything you can find to date in yourftp/suser-jengelh/SUSE-10.1-discontinued. And that's not a small list. It is small compared with the list of all the packages :-) duck/runhide -- The best way to accelerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 m/s² -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] printer awake in 10.0
I have a laserjet5 laser printer connected to my 10.0 server. periodically I hear it awake from sleep when no job is needed (but it don't print) of course I can't know is this awaking is done by the server or any client (I have just now one XP and one 10.1 client connected) do you know something about such behavior? thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/mediawiki/index.php/GPS_Lowrance_GO -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] postage stamps
On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 12:18 -0700, John Meyer wrote: Don't know. Have you checked over at wine yet? Michael S. Dunsavage wrote: Has anyone ever tried printing postage stamps in Linux? Preferably Stamps.com but whatever will do Stamps.com doesn't install correctly due to IE not installing correctly via wine -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] postage stamps
Michael S. Dunsavage wrote: On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 12:18 -0700, John Meyer wrote: Don't know. Have you checked over at wine yet? Michael S. Dunsavage wrote: Has anyone ever tried printing postage stamps in Linux? Preferably Stamps.com but whatever will do Stamps.com doesn't install correctly due to IE not installing correctly via wine Even with IE for linux? Sorry, I'm just interested with what this version of ie will and will not do. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Google Earth and OpenSuse 10.2
On Sat December 16 2006 10:32, Randall R Schulz wrote: Russ, Two questions, below... On Saturday 16 December 2006 09:21, Russbucket wrote: On Sat December 16 2006 06:10, John Meyer wrote: Okay, I've had problems with Google Earth in both GNOME and KDE. It crashes the current session and forces me back to the login page (and by crash, I mean the screen goes black and I find myself at the login screen again). Anybody had this problem happen to them? You don't say what versions your running. I'm running SUSE 10.0, KDE 3.5.4 level a with Google Earth 4.0.2091 (beta). Has not crashed yet. Don't use GNOME. Is that Don't use GNOME! (a warning) or [I] don't use GNOME. (a statement of fact)? It a statement of fact, not anything against GNOME I started using KDE when I started using SUSE and have not tried GNOME since I do not have a reason to yet.. System is PIII 866MHZ, 512 memory. Have you the proverbial patience of a saint? In other words, isn't Google Earth dismally slow on such a machine? Not really since I changed my vidio card to an Nvidi base FX5200 with 3D capability. Before that Google EArth was unusable, TO SLOW. Sorry I cannot help more. -- Russ Randall Schulz -- Russ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Google Earth and OpenSuse 10.2
On Sat December 16 2006 10:21, John Meyer wrote: Russbucket wrote: On Sat December 16 2006 06:10, John Meyer wrote: Okay, I've had problems with Google Earth in both GNOME and KDE. It crashes the current session and forces me back to the login page (and by crash, I mean the screen goes black and I find myself at the login screen again). Anybody had this problem happen to them? You don't say what versions your running. I'm running SUSE 10.0, KDE 3.5.4 level a with Google Earth 4.0.2091 (beta). Has not crashed yet. Don't use GNOME. System is PIII 866MHZ, 512 memory. Sorry I cannot help more. Suse 10.2, KDE 3.5.5 release 45. I downloaded GoogleEarth a couple of weeks or so back. I order the 10.2 DVD and its not here yet. Your version of Google Earth is either the same as mine or newer. -- Russ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Google Earth and OpenSuse 10.2
John Meyer wrote: Okay, I've had problems with Google Earth in both GNOME and KDE. It crashes the current session and forces me back to the login page (and by crash, I mean the screen goes black and I find myself at the login screen again). Anybody had this problem happen to them? Works fine for me. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Google Earth and OpenSuse 10.2
Russ, On Saturday 16 December 2006 12:25, Russbucket wrote: ... System is PIII 866MHZ, 512 memory. Have you the proverbial patience of a saint? In other words, isn't Google Earth dismally slow on such a machine? Not really since I changed my vidio card to an Nvidi base FX5200 with 3D capability. Before that Google EArth was unusable, TO SLOW. Wait a minute... Google Earth uses 3D graphics hardware on Linux? I thought it ran under WINE? Have they produced a native Linux port? ... -- Russ Randall Schuzl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] postage stamps
On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 13:22 -0700, John Meyer wrote: Michael S. Dunsavage wrote: On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 12:18 -0700, John Meyer wrote: Don't know. Have you checked over at wine yet? Michael S. Dunsavage wrote: Has anyone ever tried printing postage stamps in Linux? Preferably Stamps.com but whatever will do Stamps.com doesn't install correctly due to IE not installing correctly via wine Even with IE for linux? Sorry, I'm just interested with what this version of ie will and will not do. Well what I read was that IE asks to be default and you say yes, but it never really goes default. So Stamps.com then can't install correctly. Actually the install hangs. The program shows up in the menu and what not, but it won't work because it never installed right. http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=4264iTestingId=1646 I spent some time searching all over Google for this and nothing. Even a few program that worked w/ linux from Amazon, but the companies have since went bye bye. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] postage stamps
Michael S. Dunsavage wrote: Has anyone ever tried printing postage stamps in Linux? Doesn't the government take a dim view of that? ;-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Google Earth and OpenSuse 10.2
Yes Randall, they did. Look at http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html -- Juan David Hoyos Rentería [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 12/16/06, Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Russ, On Saturday 16 December 2006 12:25, Russbucket wrote: ... System is PIII 866MHZ, 512 memory. Have you the proverbial patience of a saint? In other words, isn't Google Earth dismally slow on such a machine? Not really since I changed my vidio card to an Nvidi base FX5200 with 3D capability. Before that Google EArth was unusable, TO SLOW. Wait a minute... Google Earth uses 3D graphics hardware on Linux? I thought it ran under WINE? Have they produced a native Linux port? ... -- Russ Randall Schuzl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Google Earth and OpenSuse 10.2
Randall R Schulz wrote: Russ, On Saturday 16 December 2006 12:25, Russbucket wrote: ... System is PIII 866MHZ, 512 memory. Have you the proverbial patience of a saint? In other words, isn't Google Earth dismally slow on such a machine? Not really since I changed my vidio card to an Nvidi base FX5200 with 3D capability. Before that Google EArth was unusable, TO SLOW. Wait a minute... Google Earth uses 3D graphics hardware on Linux? I thought it ran under WINE? Have they produced a native Linux port? http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Is the list owner around?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2006-12-16 at 14:59 +0100, Henne Vogelsang wrote: ... I have sent you a private copy of one right now. Good. I will have a look. We can only assume that the subscribed address is cticorporativo at fibertel.com.ar It is not and there is also nothing that is similar to it. Thats why i need to digg deeper. There are a couple of com.ar subscriptions (only one that is subscribed to opensuse and opensuse-es) but i need some headers to double check. The autoresponder is not on full-time. It seems to be fired when somebody opens his Outlook Express: I get them in bunches of perhaps 15 at a time, instead of getting the bounces as I send my emails to the list. My guess is that we will not get any during the weekend, and get them on Monday. I did try rising him in the Spanish list, and also I tried to email him directly at the address he gives: no answer. Perhaps the only way to find him is by sending a probe with individualized subject lines: when a particular subject bounces, you know who it was. A bit messy, perhaps. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFhGSrtTMYHG2NR9URAmsEAJ9Fqwr7iwwURO5h0oDwiHmmfl1GmACfXINR W2ZGRfrv2duuF4ydkS4I6ts= =OeR2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] postage stamps
On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 16:09 -0500, James Knott wrote: Michael S. Dunsavage wrote: Has anyone ever tried printing postage stamps in Linux? Doesn't the government take a dim view of that? ;-) Not if you purchase the stamps via an online service... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Google Earth and OpenSuse 10.2
On 2006-12-16 14:51, Randall R Schulz wrote: Wait a minute... Google Earth uses 3D graphics hardware on Linux? I thought it ran under WINE? Have they produced a native Linux port? At least three months ago :-) -- The best way to accelerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 m/s² -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Postage Stamps.........IE
http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page This installed IE flawlessly -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] postage stamps
On Saturday 16 December 2006 09:26, Michael S. Dunsavage wrote: Has anyone ever tried printing postage stamps in Linux? Preferably Stamps.com but whatever will do -- Michael S. Dunsavage Stamps.com uses a downloaded and installed piece of software, which I have had no reason to test with wine to date. They do have a developer's program where in you can integrate Stamps.com into your application, and then earn $60 from them each time a user of any package actually signs up to Stamps. -- _ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP
On Saturday 16 December 2006 06:21, ByteEnable wrote: 4 Dec 22:26:39 ntpd[12811]: synchronized to 128.138.140.44, stratum 1 14 Dec 22:26:37 ntpd[12811]: time reset -1.472229 s 14 Dec 22:26:37 ntpd[12811]: kernel time sync enabled 0001 14 Dec 22:28:18 ntpd[12811]: synchronized to 128.138.140.44, stratum 1 14 Dec 22:29:07 ntpd[12811]: no servers reachable 14 Dec 22:29:45 ntpd[12811]: synchronized to 129.6.15.29, stratum 1 14 Dec 22:30:24 ntpd[12811]: no servers reachable 14 Dec 22:30:33 ntpd[12811]: synchronized to 128.138.140.44, stratum 1 I'd be pretty suspicious of those no servers reachable messages. Do you have one or several servers configured? You should use as many as 4 or 5, and dons flamesuit avoid the pools because they have proven to be a single point of failure IMHO. If you use a pool, make sure you have at least two other clocks named explicitly. Universities (at least many of them in the US) seem to have time servers and mega-bandwidth. I use their servers a lot. -- _ John Andersen pgpP33mM7X3SZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP
On Saturday 16 December 2006 05:10, Carlos E. R. wrote: But within limits. After setting the clock once, the clock is running so fast that ntpd can't cope. It will try to slew the clock back, but it does so slowly. That too is configurable. You can tell it not to try these slow movements, but do it in one big step. While not ideal, this is no worse for the system than running ntpdate out of cron. -- _ John Andersen pgpyJycclVBlx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] Google Earth and OpenSuse 10.2
On Saturday 16 December 2006 05:10, John Meyer wrote: Okay, I've had problems with Google Earth in both GNOME and KDE. It crashes the current session and forces me back to the login page (and by crash, I mean the screen goes black and I find myself at the login screen again). Anybody had this problem happen to them? It works correctly on 10.1, and I can't migrate to 10.2 on my machine till ATI gets reliable drivers available. But I've seen this exact problem on Kubuntu. It takes down the X server entirely. So much for don't be evil ;-P -- _ John Andersen pgpHTetVFGX7h.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP
On Saturday 16 December 2006 23:03, John Andersen wrote:
Do you have one or several servers configured? You should use as
many as 4 or 5, and dons flamesuit avoid the pools because they
have proven to be a single point of failure IMHO. If you use a
pool, make sure you have at least two other clocks named
explicitly.
How about the option Use Random Servers from pool.ntp.org in
openSUSE 10.2? YaST puts {0,1,2}.pool.ntp.org in /etc/ntp.conf, of
which the DNS-records change every hour.
Or do you still stand by your advice I quoted?
Cheers,
Leen
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Re: [opensuse] Is the list owner around?
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Re: [opensuse] CN=Kevin Gassiot/OU=HOU/OU=VES/O=VDGC is out of the office.
On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 06:01 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will be out of the office starting 12/16/2006 and will not return until 01/02/2007. I will reply to your message when I return. Thanks, Kev in Why does this make we want to send the guy a reply directly? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP
On Saturday 16 December 2006 13:20, Leendert Meyer wrote:
On Saturday 16 December 2006 23:03, John Andersen wrote:
Do you have one or several servers configured? You should use as
many as 4 or 5, and dons flamesuit avoid the pools because they
have proven to be a single point of failure IMHO. If you use a
pool, make sure you have at least two other clocks named
explicitly.
How about the option Use Random Servers from pool.ntp.org in
openSUSE 10.2? YaST puts {0,1,2}.pool.ntp.org in /etc/ntp.conf, of
which the DNS-records change every hour.
Or do you still stand by your advice I quoted?
That was exactly what my advice was referring to. For some
reason that has never worked for me in a reliable way. Perhaps
occasionally that url is unreachable or something.
I prefer selecting a server that I have known to be workable
and reliable.
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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP
On 2006-12-16 16:03, John Andersen wrote: On Saturday 16 December 2006 06:21, ByteEnable wrote: 4 Dec 22:26:39 ntpd[12811]: synchronized to 128.138.140.44, stratum 1 14 Dec 22:26:37 ntpd[12811]: time reset -1.472229 s 14 Dec 22:26:37 ntpd[12811]: kernel time sync enabled 0001 14 Dec 22:28:18 ntpd[12811]: synchronized to 128.138.140.44, stratum 1 14 Dec 22:29:07 ntpd[12811]: no servers reachable 14 Dec 22:29:45 ntpd[12811]: synchronized to 129.6.15.29, stratum 1 14 Dec 22:30:24 ntpd[12811]: no servers reachable 14 Dec 22:30:33 ntpd[12811]: synchronized to 128.138.140.44, stratum 1 I'd be pretty suspicious of those no servers reachable messages. Do you have one or several servers configured? You should use as many as 4 or 5, and dons flamesuit avoid the pools because they have proven to be a single point of failure IMHO. If you use a pool, make sure you have at least two other clocks named explicitly. Universities (at least many of them in the US) seem to have time servers and mega-bandwidth. I use their servers a lot. Both those IPs resolve; 128.138.140.44 is UColorado, while 129.6.15.29 is time-b.nist.gov. AFAIK, neither of those is in any ntp pool. The no servers reachable messages don't bother me very much, as ntpd should be able to keep the time within reason for a lot longer than the interval in the above log fragment. What is of more concern is that the local clock seems way out of touch with reality. That suggests to me that ntp is working properly, so long as it can reach a server of course. It is rather something in the kernel configuration that is wrong. For Byte: what is the output of adjtimex -p? -- The best way to accelerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 m/s² -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] photo-editing
The boss was tooling around with the digital camera looking at the .jpg's on the hard drive when she decided to open one in GwenView, after adjusting the gamma, brightness and contrast she wanted to save the result, and toss the original file. It seems that gwenview can make those adjustments to the picture on the screen, but not write them out to a file. Any ideas (not GIMP) for accomplishing this? Mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
