Re: [opensuse] Would like explanation from networking guru

[Fajar Priyanto]

On Friday 16 February 2007 14:56, Art Fore wrote:
> OK, if I delete the default 192.168.11.1 UG route and no  longer have a
> default gateway, I can still get to the samba server on the windows
> network (eth0), but not the internet on the wireless (eth1) from linux..
> Cannot get to the internet from linux on the windows network in any case
> though as I am not logged on from Linux, and internet access from the
> windows (eth0) is only available via a webproxy (which is in the Texas &
> I am Taiwan) available only if you are logged on to the windows domain.
> The only machine I do get access to is the local samba server from
> Linux, that part which I understand, just not how I get to it when Linux
> is on eth1 and it is on eth0 network.

Without any default gateway you can still connect to any PC in the SAME 
network as your network card configured.
The function of default gateway is to inform your PC which path to take if it 
needs to go "OUTSIDE" your PC network.
Proxy is providing a similar service as a gateway, that's why you can use it 
to browse the internet with a prerequisite of logging to windows domain 
(apparently the proxy requires authentication).

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[opensuse] 10.2 on HP nx7400 laptop; does it work for you?

[Silviu Marin-Caea]

Does anyone have 10.2 on HP nx7400?  Does it boot every time?

I've seen a problem on two of these laptops where they would frequently stop 
at boot on "Activating device mapper".

I have filed a bug.  If anyone has the same hw & 10.2 please add a comment.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=244556

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Re: [opensuse] VirtualBox error: VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_ACCESSIBLE

[Fajar Priyanto]

On Sunday 11 February 2007 02:23, Marcus Hüwe wrote:
> hmm. Did you do follow the README
> (/usr/share/doc/packages/virtualbox-snapshot/README.SUSE)?
>
> Basically you have to do the following:
> - install the rpm (it seems that you have already done this step)
> - load the kernel module (i guess you did that too (modprobe vboxdrv))
> - add your user to the group "vboxusers"

This is so interesting.
Can it be installed on SLED10?

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Re: [opensuse] Would like explanation from networking guru

[Art Fore]

On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 15:30 +0700, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
> On Friday 16 February 2007 14:56, Art Fore wrote:
> > OK, if I delete the default 192.168.11.1 UG route and no  longer have a
> > default gateway, I can still get to the samba server on the windows
> > network (eth0), but not the internet on the wireless (eth1) from linux..
> > Cannot get to the internet from linux on the windows network in any case
> > though as I am not logged on from Linux, and internet access from the
> > windows (eth0) is only available via a webproxy (which is in the Texas &
> > I am Taiwan) available only if you are logged on to the windows domain.
> > The only machine I do get access to is the local samba server from
> > Linux, that part which I understand, just not how I get to it when Linux
> > is on eth1 and it is on eth0 network.
> 
> Without any default gateway you can still connect to any PC in the SAME 
> network as your network card configured.
> The function of default gateway is to inform your PC which path to take if it 
> needs to go "OUTSIDE" your PC network.
> Proxy is providing a similar service as a gateway, that's why you can use it 
> to browse the internet with a prerequisite of logging to windows domain 
> (apparently the proxy requires authentication).
> 

OK, I think I understand what your are saying. Thanks

Art

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Re: [opensuse] 10.3 alpha torrent

[Andreas Jaeger]

Jan Karjalainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The DVD-torrent for 10.3 i386 alpha doesn't seem to get any seeder...

Should be fixed now, we had a small problem with our setup :-(

Sorry,
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Re: [opensuse] Wireless Card

[John Andersen]

On Thursday 15 February 2007, John Pierce wrote:
> I agree, I have to use the ndiswrapper and windows driver to get mine to
> work.

So there's the answer then, back to ndiswrapper for a while.

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Re: [opensuse] Wireless Card

[John Andersen]

On Thursday 15 February 2007, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 13:23 +0100, Danesh Daroui wrote:
> > Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 11:59 +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> > >> Danesh Daroui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Broadcom support is not quite fully working yet :-(
> > >>
> > >> Andreas
> > >
> > > It may not be fully working but the bcm43xx does, it is also in the
> > > Linksys WPC54G which works quite well in my laptop. The OP needs to
> > > extract the drivers from the windows .sys file and add them
> > > to /lib/firmware.
> >
> > I have .sys driver files for Windows. How can I use thin in OpenSuse
> > without ndiswrapper?
>
> Use bcm43xx-fwcutter to extract the drivers files and put them
> in /lib/firmware. The kernel module should use them when you boot.


Are you absolutely certain about this Ken?

John Pierce has posted:
" The problem I found after quite some snooping is that
it is on the pci express bus and not the standard bus.  The developers
are continuing to work on it but they haven't got there yet."

If the OPs machine also has the chipset on the express bus it could
be the same problem.

I've been down the fwcutter route and it refused to work.  Ndiswrapper
worked right away.  

Personally, I see little philosophical difference in hacking out firmware from 
a windows driver to plug into an open source driver  AS OPPOSED TO using 
ndiswrapper.

The latter almost always works, and the former is usually a crap shoot.


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Re: [opensuse] Wireless Card

[John Andersen]

On Thursday 15 February 2007, Danesh Daroui wrote:
> It is solved finally. Actually, I didn't want to use "ndiswrapper" and
> hence Windows drivers, since Windows is not welcomed to my systems at
> all, but the other approach which is "bcm43xx-fwcutter" workd at first,
> but it stopped after a while and never worked again. Now, with
> "ndiswrapper" everything works fine. I also realized (maybe I am just
> obsessed by OpenSuse)

No, Danesh, it is not solved until you post into this thread with
a capital SOLVED appended onto the subject.  Until you do that
the thread will carry on and drift into political issues, soup recipes
and solutions involving dead mice and paper bags.  ;-)

Glad you got it working.

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Re: [opensuse] french dealers for 10.2

[John Andersen]

On Thursday 15 February 2007, Michael Loeffler wrote:
> And I'm not happy at all with the expensive shipment we offer through
> shopNovell.

YOU'RE NOT HAPPY?  Guys in Canada got cheaper shipping than
I did.

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Re: [opensuse] The BBC is asking if they should support Linux

[John Andersen]

On Thursday 15 February 2007, Dave Howorth wrote:
> Clayton wrote:
> > The BBC is asking if they should support Linux in the proposed
> > on-demand media service they want to launch.
> > http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=17103
>
> Thanks for that heads-up. I just filled out their questionaire. I said
> that IMHO it should be illegal for the BBC to launch a Microsoft-only
> service.

Given the quality of the BBC these last few years the whole
organization should be outlawed.  Harumph!


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Re: [opensuse] Adding new IMAP accounts with Kontact/Kmail

[John Andersen]

On Thursday 15 February 2007, Brian Jackson wrote:
> Hello-
>
> On my 10.2 box, I'm trying to add my various IMAP email accounts in
> Kontact, but everytime I go to 'Check What the Server Supports' in the
> 'Security' tab, I get the following error:
>
> Connect to most .. is broken
>
> I currently use a suse 9.2 box for mail with Kontact, and all is
> configured the same.  It works on the 9.2 box and has for years.  Even
> on ly laptop running 10.0 is fine.

Presuming that the server in question does work with other clients,
how bout just copying the info from them and don't go with the 
query command?  

I seem to remember problems with query in the version of Kmail/Kontact
that was common back then.





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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 on HP nx7400 laptop; does it work for you?

[John Andersen]

On Thursday 15 February 2007, Silviu Marin-Caea wrote:
> Does anyone have 10.2 on HP nx7400?  Does it boot every time?
>
> I've seen a problem on two of these laptops where they would frequently
> stop at boot on "Activating device mapper".

If you hit Ctrl-C do they carry on with the boot process?


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Re: [opensuse] Wireless Card [SOLVED]

[Danesh Daroui]

On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 00:22 -0900, John Andersen wrote:
> On Thursday 15 February 2007, Danesh Daroui wrote:
> > It is solved finally. Actually, I didn't want to use "ndiswrapper" and
> > hence Windows drivers, since Windows is not welcomed to my systems at
> > all, but the other approach which is "bcm43xx-fwcutter" workd at first,
> > but it stopped after a while and never worked again. Now, with
> > "ndiswrapper" everything works fine. I also realized (maybe I am just
> > obsessed by OpenSuse)
> 
> No, Danesh, it is not solved until you post into this thread with
> a capital SOLVED appended onto the subject.  Until you do that
> the thread will carry on and drift into political issues, soup recipes
> and solutions involving dead mice and paper bags.  ;-)
> 
> Glad you got it working.
> 

So, now it is solved.

D.

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Re: [opensuse][OT] The BBC is asking if they should support Linux

[Russell Jones]

John Andersen wrote:

Given the quality of the BBC these last few years the whole
organization should be outlawed.  Harumph!
  
Do you get the digital channels? BBC Three and Four show some excellent 
programmes. Radio 4 is very good, too. Mind you, the real terms cut in 
the license fee and extra obligations placed on the BBC recently won't 
help the quality.

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[opensuse] tall PNG images don't load in Firefox

[Dave Howorth]

I have a problem with loading some PNG images in Firefox. The images are
generated using GD and most of the images load OK, but some don't. As
near as I can tell, it is tall (or maybe just big?) images that won't
load. If I just load the PNG by itself, I see a message saying that the
image cannot be displayed because it contains errors. I can successfully
display these images with either xv or gimp and neither complains of any
irregularities.

 I put one of the files at
.
It's 190 kB and 820x36564 pixels.

The little feedback I got on the Firefox forum was that Firefox on
Windows can load the image OK, whilst Ubuntu has the same problem as me,
so I'm wondering if it's a GNU/Linux library issue rather than a Mozilla
core one. We're all using Firefox 1.5.0.9

Has anybody else come across this problem? Do any of you using Firefox 2
see the problem?

Thanks, Dave
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Re: [opensuse] System Mail

[Sandy Drobic]

Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
> Peter Bloomfield wrote:
>> I set up a machine under SuSE 10.2. during the setup I created a user and 
>> selected that the user receive any system mail. I now want to stop that so 
>> that root receives system mail.
>>
>> Does anyone know where to look to do this?
>>   
> Though that question has been answered by Rick, AFAIK, postfix will not
> deliver mail to root, as it is a security risk.  You must have an alias
> to receive system mail.

Correct, the only daemon that is running with root privileges is the
master daemon. All other processes are running as the unprivileged user
postfix. And because you need root privileges to access the home directory
/root, no mail can be delivered to that home directory.

This is very unlikely to change. The only way to change that is to have an
imap/pop server running and to create a user account for root. Though I
would still just set up a mailbox like admins, it-stuff etc., route all
system mails and other administrative mails into that mailbox and grant
access for all admins to that mailbox. That way the administrative mails
are separated from the personal user accounts of the admins.

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Re: [opensuse] tall PNG images don't load in Firefox

[Wolfgang Rosenauer]

Dave Howorth wrote:
> I have a problem with loading some PNG images in Firefox. The images are
> generated using GD and most of the images load OK, but some don't. As
> near as I can tell, it is tall (or maybe just big?) images that won't
> load. If I just load the PNG by itself, I see a message saying that the
> image cannot be displayed because it contains errors. I can successfully
> display these images with either xv or gimp and neither complains of any
> irregularities.
> 
>  I put one of the files at
> .
> It's 190 kB and 820x36564 pixels.
> 
> The little feedback I got on the Firefox forum was that Firefox on
> Windows can load the image OK, whilst Ubuntu has the same problem as me,
> so I'm wondering if it's a GNU/Linux library issue rather than a Mozilla
> core one. We're all using Firefox 1.5.0.9
> 
> Has anybody else come across this problem? Do any of you using Firefox 2
> see the problem?

I can confirm with SeaMonkey 1.1 and can confirm the same problem with
Firefox 2.0.0.1 from mozilla.com which means it's no problem with using
the system png libs. So what I'd recommend is to file a bug at
bugzilla.mozilla.org for platform Linux and your description and testcase.

Wolfgang
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[opensuse] backup data from server

[Evan Ingram]

Hi all

I want to setup a backup system for a server where the data is backed up
to my laptop which connects wirelessly on the network. There should be 1
day a week where it does a full backup and the other days just
incrementals to a separate directory not affecting the full backup.

I tried using a script i found called "simplebashbu", google that and
you'll find it. It seemed like it should do what i wanted, but the
incrementals didnt work. Nothing would be put in the tar's. The full
backup would be ok. I don't know whether it was because the directories
i was backing up were nfs mounted and the script didnt like it or
something and is mainly meant for local directories.

Any advice on a tool that will do what i want?

thanks all
~Evan
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Re: [opensuse] tall PNG images don't load in Firefox

[Pete Connolly]

On Friday 16 February 2007 09:57:03 Dave Howorth wrote:
> I have a problem with loading some PNG images in Firefox. The images are
> generated using GD and most of the images load OK, but some don't. As
> near as I can tell, it is tall (or maybe just big?) images that won't
> load. If I just load the PNG by itself, I see a message saying that the
> image cannot be displayed because it contains errors. I can successfully
> display these images with either xv or gimp and neither complains of any
> irregularities.
>
>  I put one of the files at
> >. It's 190 kB and 820x36564 pixels.
>
> The little feedback I got on the Firefox forum was that Firefox on
> Windows can load the image OK, whilst Ubuntu has the same problem as me,
> so I'm wondering if it's a GNU/Linux library issue rather than a Mozilla
> core one. We're all using Firefox 1.5.0.9
>
> Has anybody else come across this problem? Do any of you using Firefox 2
> see the problem?
>
> Thanks, Dave

Strange.  Firefox for Linux 2.0.0.2Pre says "The 
image 
“http://www.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/dhoworth/f208c50af8a68669c364c22849f1d1de.png” 
cannot be displayed, because it contains errors.".  Firefox 1.5.0.7 (must 
update that) for Windows running under Wine exits without an error, but 
without displaying anything. IE 6.0SP1 under wine does the same, as does IE 
5.5 under wine.

Cheers

Pete
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Re: [opensuse] Kopete & google talk

[Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett]

On Thursday 15 February 2007 20:31, alex wrote:
> of course it was my first step. However options described on page
> http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Kopete+Jabber+Jingle   do not
> work in my case. The library "qca" is installed.
>
> Any other idea?
>
> Suse 10.2 64bit. KDE 3.5.5 from standard DVD
>
>
> Best regards.
> Alex

I am using it right now. There is nothing special appart of:

port 5223
server is talk.google.com
uses ssl
plan text password
jid is your complete gmail address

Duncan

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Re: [opensuse] tall PNG images don't load in Firefox

[Wolfgang Rosenauer]

Pete Connolly wrote:

>>  I put one of the files at
>> >> . It's 190 kB and 820x36564 pixels.
>> The little feedback I got on the Firefox forum was that Firefox on
>> Windows can load the image OK, whilst Ubuntu has the same problem as me,
>> so I'm wondering if it's a GNU/Linux library issue rather than a Mozilla
>> core one. We're all using Firefox 1.5.0.9
>>
>> Has anybody else come across this problem? Do any of you using Firefox 2
>> see the problem?
> 
> Strange.  Firefox for Linux 2.0.0.2Pre says "The 
> image 
> “http://www.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/dhoworth/f208c50af8a68669c364c22849f1d1de.png” 
> cannot be displayed, because it contains errors.".  Firefox 1.5.0.7 (must 
> update that) for Windows running under Wine exits without an error, but 
> without displaying anything. IE 6.0SP1 under wine does the same, as does IE 
> 5.5 under wine.

another one:
Firefox 2.0.0.1 on Windows shows some broken lines on the left side
instead of any big picture. So it's most probably simply broken.

Wolfgang

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Re: [opensuse] tall PNG images don't load in Firefox

[Dominique Leuenberger]

>>> On 16-02-2007 at 12:28, Wolfgang Rosenauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> another one:
> Firefox 2.0.0.1 on Windows shows some broken lines on the left side
> instead of any big picture. So it's most probably simply broken.
> 
> Wolfgang
> 

Are you sure FF did not just reduce the size of the image to fit on the
screen? I first thought the same.. but then when hovering over it with
the mouse, I got the magnifying glasses and there the picture was.

Dominique
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Re: [opensuse] tall PNG images don't load in Firefox

[Dave Howorth]

Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
> Pete Connolly wrote:
> 
>>>  I put one of the files at
>>> >> The little feedback I got on the Firefox forum was that Firefox on
>>> Windows can load the image OK, whilst Ubuntu has the same problem as me,
>>> so I'm wondering if it's a GNU/Linux library issue rather than a Mozilla
>>> core one. We're all using Firefox 1.5.0.9
>>>
>>> Has anybody else come across this problem? Do any of you using Firefox 2
>>> see the problem?
>> Strange.  Firefox for Linux 2.0.0.2Pre says "The 
>> image 
>> “http://www.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/dhoworth/f208c50af8a68669c364c22849f1d1de.png” 
>> cannot be displayed, because it contains errors.".  Firefox 1.5.0.7 (must 
>> update that) for Windows running under Wine exits without an error, but 
>> without displaying anything. IE 6.0SP1 under wine does the same, as does IE 
>> 5.5 under wine.
> 
> another one:
> Firefox 2.0.0.1 on Windows shows some broken lines on the left side
> instead of any big picture. So it's most probably simply broken.

Sorry, what is "it" in "it's most probably simply broken"? The image
file or mozilla? Somebody on the firefox forum says:

  Renders fine for me on W2K.
  Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2pre)
  Gecko/20070213 BonEcho/2.0.0.2pre ID:2007021303

and somebody else said it works on XP but didn't provide a version.

gimp and xv both display the file without warnings. Are there any tools
to diagnose PNG errors?

Cheers, Dave
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Re: [opensuse] Print to file PDF Firefox 2 & Konqueror

[Jan Tiggy]

Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:

> pdf:/directory/of/your/choice/ -E -P /usr/share/cups/model/distiller.ppd
> 
> The directory of my choice was /home/vk/Documents/somedir/
> 
> What is it that I do not understand?

I forgot to mention it, sorry.
I don't know why, but CUPS needs there an output folder with the 777
rights. So test it eg. in /tmp.
I have CUPS on a server runnig and linked the output to a read/write
nfs-export, so everybody can access it. Alternativ you can setup your
sendmail to deliver a copy to you. There is a Howto out there. Just
google for it.

thx
Jan

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Re: [opensuse][OT] The BBC is asking if they should support Linux

[Fergus Wilde]

On Friday 16 February 2007 09:51, Russell Jones wrote:
> John Andersen wrote:
> > Given the quality of the BBC these last few years the whole
> > organization should be outlawed.  Harumph!
>
> Do you get the digital channels? BBC Three and Four show some excellent
> programmes. Radio 4 is very good, too. Mind you, the real terms cut in
> the license fee and extra obligations placed on the BBC recently won't
> help the quality.

A lot of people feel the same way about the decline in output quality on the 
terrestrial TV. But I agree with Russell about 3, 4, and the radio. Whatever 
your view though, they are still going to take the licence fee off  you, so I 
would urge any UK readers to go to the BBC Trust site at

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/consult/open_consultations/ondemand_services.html

and express your views. The consultation is not solely about a Microsoft-only 
system, though, and I would remind everyone that it's likely that sounding 
like you've given the whole consultation thought is probably likely to get 
more results than if one comes off as simply someone who hates Microsoft. I 
would imagine that the bulk of people reading your input are probably not 
technical specialists.

Cheers
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Re: [opensuse] tall PNG images don't load in Firefox

[Wolfgang Rosenauer]

Dominique Leuenberger wrote:
 On 16-02-2007 at 12:28, Wolfgang Rosenauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
>> another one:
>> Firefox 2.0.0.1 on Windows shows some broken lines on the left side
>> instead of any big picture. So it's most probably simply broken.
>>
>> Wolfgang
>>
> 
> Are you sure FF did not just reduce the size of the image to fit on the
> screen? I first thought the same.. but then when hovering over it with
> the mouse, I got the magnifying glasses and there the picture was.

oops, sorry. Yes, that's true. Windows Firefox 2.0.0.1 on WinXP works.
So my first recommendation about filing a bug at mozilla.org is still
valid ;-)

Wolfgang
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Re: [opensuse] french dealers for 10.2

[Mike McMullin]

On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 00:24 -0900, John Andersen wrote:
> On Thursday 15 February 2007, Michael Loeffler wrote:
> > And I'm not happy at all with the expensive shipment we offer through
> > shopNovell.
> 
> YOU'RE NOT HAPPY?  Guys in Canada got cheaper shipping than
> I did.

  Royal commission mayhap?  

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Re: [opensuse] tall PNG images don't load in Firefox

[Russell Jones]

Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:

Dominique Leuenberger wrote:
  

On 16-02-2007 at 12:28, Wolfgang Rosenauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  

wrote:



another one:
Firefox 2.0.0.1 on Windows shows some broken lines on the left side
instead of any big picture. So it's most probably simply broken.

Wolfgang

  

Are you sure FF did not just reduce the size of the image to fit on the
screen? I first thought the same.. but then when hovering over it with
the mouse, I got the magnifying glasses and there the picture was.



oops, sorry. Yes, that's true. Windows Firefox 2.0.0.1 on WinXP works.
So my first recommendation about filing a bug at mozilla.org is still
valid ;-)

Wolfgang
  
Windows actually seems to do the opposite: if you click on the image 
when the magnifying glass is shown, the picture disappears and the title 
bar says "Scaled (1%)". Looks like a cross-platform bug.


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Re: [opensuse] tall PNG images don't load in Firefox

[Dave Howorth]

Russell Jones wrote:
> Windows actually seems to do the opposite: if you click on the image
> when the magnifying glass is shown, the picture disappears and the title
> bar says "Scaled (1%)". Looks like a cross-platform bug.

The default scaling depends on your preferences, IIRC.

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Re: [opensuse] tall PNG images don't load in Firefox

[Wolfgang Rosenauer]

Russell Jones wrote:

>> oops, sorry. Yes, that's true. Windows Firefox 2.0.0.1 on WinXP works.
>> So my first recommendation about filing a bug at mozilla.org is still
>> valid ;-)
>>
>> Wolfgang
>>   
> Windows actually seems to do the opposite: if you click on the image
> when the magnifying glass is shown, the picture disappears and the title
> bar says "Scaled (1%)". Looks like a cross-platform bug.
> 
> Russell Jones

Why? Above I wrote that FF displays an error on Linux and on Windows it
works (only different behaviour for image scaling).
So it's a Linux only issue probably in libpng.
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Re: [opensuse] tall PNG images don't load in Firefox

[Russell Jones]

Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:

Russell Jones wrote:

  

oops, sorry. Yes, that's true. Windows Firefox 2.0.0.1 on WinXP works.
So my first recommendation about filing a bug at mozilla.org is still
valid ;-)

Wolfgang
  
  

Windows actually seems to do the opposite: if you click on the image
when the magnifying glass is shown, the picture disappears and the title
bar says "Scaled (1%)". Looks like a cross-platform bug.

Russell Jones



Why? Above I wrote that FF displays an error on Linux and on Windows it
works (only different behaviour for image scaling).
So it's a Linux only issue probably in libpng.
  


Why what?
( Click on the image => image disappears and will not come back without 
a reload ) = bug

No?

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Re: [opensuse] Print to file PDF Firefox 2 & Konqueror

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 18:35 +0100, jdd wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I need to print to PDF from FireFox2. When print is selected, only the
> > "Print to file PostScript/default" option is available besides the
> > normal printers. 
> 
> select this option, go to properties and replace all the stuff there 
> by "kprinter". This will lead you to the kde print manager that have pdf.
> 
> > Print to PDF of web page contents is possible in Konqueror, but delivers
> > this error message.
> 
> ?  never had this problem
> 
> as a test, you could print your page to a file then use ps2pdf in a 
> console to see the messages
> 
> jdd
> 


It worked great! Firefox also remembers this "kprinter" entry for the
future in the PostScript/Default option.

Thanx a lot.

Al


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Re: [opensuse] tall PNG images don't load in Firefox

[Wolfgang Rosenauer]

Russell Jones wrote:

 oops, sorry. Yes, that's true. Windows Firefox 2.0.0.1 on WinXP works.
 So my first recommendation about filing a bug at mozilla.org is still
 valid ;-)

 Wolfgang
 
>>> Windows actually seems to do the opposite: if you click on the image
>>> when the magnifying glass is shown, the picture disappears and the title
>>> bar says "Scaled (1%)". Looks like a cross-platform bug.
>>>
>>> Russell Jones
>>> 
>>
>> Why? Above I wrote that FF displays an error on Linux and on Windows it
>> works (only different behaviour for image scaling).
>> So it's a Linux only issue probably in libpng.
> 
> Why what?
> ( Click on the image => image disappears and will not come back without
> a reload ) = bug
> No?

If it is one, it's another issue. I guess that there is a small stripe
on the left side where you can click to descale it again but there is
nothing visible.

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Re: [opensuse] The BBC is asking if they should support Linux

[Billie Erin Walsh]

John Andersen wrote:
> Given the quality of the BBC these last few years the whole
> organization should be outlawed.  Harumph!
>
>
>   
Hey, give credit where credit is due here. They are still dreaming up
sitcoms for American TV to copy.

AND they DID bring back Dr. Who!

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Re: [opensuse] tall PNG images don't load in Firefox

[Matthias Titeux]

Le Vendredi 16 Février 2007 10:57, Dave Howorth a écrit :

> I have a problem with loading some PNG images in Firefox. The images are
> generated using GD and most of the images load OK, but some don't. As
> near as I can tell, it is tall (or maybe just big?) images that won't
> load. If I just load the PNG by itself, I see a message saying that the
> image cannot be displayed because it contains errors. I can successfully
> display these images with either xv or gimp and neither complains of any
> irregularities.
>
>  I put one of the files at
> >. It's 190 kB and 820x36564 pixels.
>
> The little feedback I got on the Firefox forum was that Firefox on
> Windows can load the image OK, whilst Ubuntu has the same problem as me,
> so I'm wondering if it's a GNU/Linux library issue rather than a Mozilla
> core one. We're all using Firefox 1.5.0.9
>
> Has anybody else come across this problem? Do any of you using Firefox 2
> see the problem?
>
> Thanks, Dave

Hi !
On opensuse 10.0:
 Firefox 2.0.0.1 give me the same error :
“http://www.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/dhoworth/f208c50af8a68669c364c22849f1d1de.png” 
cannot be displayed, because it contains errors.

However Konqueror display the file normally.

On W2K (Vmware)
Firefox 1.5.09 and IE display the file normally (albeit, IE shrink it and I am 
not able to zoom in, never use IE so I must miss something obvious)

So, it seems to be either Firefox 2.0 related, or Firefox 2.0 on linux 
related.

Regards

Matthias
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Re: [opensuse][OT] The BBC is asking if they should support Linux

[michael norman]

On Friday 16 February 2007 09:51:57 Russell Jones wrote:
> John Andersen wrote:
> > Given the quality of the BBC these last few years the whole
> > organization should be outlawed.  Harumph!

Please explain what is wrong with the BBC's output recently
>
> Do you get the digital channels? BBC Three and Four show some excellent
> programmes. Radio 4 is very good, too. Mind you, the real terms cut in
> the license fee and extra obligations placed on the BBC recently won't
> help the quality.


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[opensuse] Desktops and program behaviour

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Hi all,

I use OpenSUSE 10.1. Installed is also Firefox 2. 
I use several Desktops to organise my work environment.
When I use a program like Evolution and click on a link that requires
Firefox to open something, it opens the last Firefox I used. If i change
my Desktop to another one, Firefox opens in the previous Desktop, which
can be a nag, because I now have to search the Desktops to find the
opened link. 

How can I ensure that only the present Desktop is used when opening a
link, even if it means starting a new Firefox session. I do not want to
disturb the other sessions on the other Desktops.

Thanx
:-)
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Re: [opensuse] tall PNG images don't load in Firefox

[JB]

On Friday 16 February 2007 03:57, Dave Howorth wrote: 

> I have a problem with loading some PNG images in Firefox. The images are
> generated using GD and most of the images load OK, but some don't. As
> near as I can tell, it is tall (or maybe just big?) images that won't
> load. If I just load the PNG by itself, I see a message saying that the
> image cannot be displayed because it contains errors. I can successfully
> display these images with either xv or gimp and neither complains of any
> irregularities.
>
>  I put one of the files at
> >. It's 190 kB and 820x36564 pixels.

  Using SuSE 9.3, Firefox 1.5 can't see it either, nor can Seamonkey 1.1 both 
with the same reason 'it contains errors', but Opera and Konqueror open it 
fine.

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Re: [opensuse] tall PNG images don't load in Firefox

[Russell Jones]

Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:

Why? Above I wrote that FF displays an error on Linux and on Windows it
works (only different behaviour for image scaling).
So it's a Linux only issue probably in libpng.
  

Why what?
( Click on the image => image disappears and will not come back without
a reload ) = bug
No?


If it is one, it's another issue. I guess that there is a small stripe
on the left side where you can click to descale it again but there is
nothing visible.
  
Ah! Yes, so there is. More of an unsatisfactory behaviour than a bug (I 
suggest the scaler should draw at least a line of coloured pixels based 
on the image). I'll see what happens under OSu10.2 when I get home. I 
missed the bit about the "this image contains errors" notice, apologies.


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Re: [opensuse] tall PNG images don't load in Firefox

[Ken Jennings]

On Friday 2007-02-16 05:18, Pete Connolly wrote:
> On Friday 16 February 2007 09:57:03 Dave Howorth wrote:
> > I have a problem with loading some PNG images in Firefox. The images are
> > generated using GD and most of the images load OK, but some don't. As
> > near as I can tell, it is tall (or maybe just big?) images that won't
> > load. If I just load the PNG by itself, I see a message saying that the
> > image cannot be displayed because it contains errors. I can successfully
> > display these images with either xv or gimp and neither complains of any
> > irregularities.

Can you try loading the images and re-saving them using gimp?  Sometimes that 
cleans up any irregularities in image formats.

> >  I put one of the files at
> >  >ng
> >
> >>. It's 190 kB and 820x36564 pixels.
[...]
> >
> > Has anybody else come across this problem? Do any of you using Firefox 2
> > see the problem?
>
> Strange.  Firefox for Linux 2.0.0.2Pre says "The image
> “http://www.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/dhoworth/f208c50af8a68669c364c22849f1d1de.png
>” cannot be displayed, because it contains errors.".  
[...] 

Same thing here in firefox 2.0.0.2pre running on Suse 10.2 x86_64. (2G of RAM)  
Also, I clicked on the link in KMail and expected it to launch Konqueror.  
Instead it launched Kuickshow which complained that is was "unable to load 
the image...Perhaps the file format is unsupported or your lmlib is not 
installed properly."  Possibly the problem.  Or not.  Remarkably, if I put 
the link directly into Konqueror the picture loads.  "P00720 Enterobacteria 
phage T4 (164) Lysozyme..."  And a long list of what appears to be horizontal 
bar charts in different shades of blue, green, and red.
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[opensuse] Grabbing MAC address of interface

[Jan Engelhardt]

Hello,


now the question may seem simple ("how to grab the MAC address of a 
given interface"), but what is actually a "portable" way that does not 
potentially break when upgrading to a newer openSUSE?

I could fiddle with `hwinfo --network` or try parse `ip l sh dev br0` 
output, but what's actually best? [Using sh.]


Jan
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Re: [opensuse] tall PNG images don't load in Firefox

[Peter Nikolic]

On Friday 16 February 2007 11:51, Matthias Titeux wrote:
> http://www.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/dhoworth/f208c50af8a68669c364c22849f1d1de.png

I have just done a wget on the image  and tried to view it using xv on 10.2 it 
displays a narrow vertical window full of alternate red white and green 
stripes  with a few blues just for good measure .  

it will not display in Konq just complains about imlib installation   and 
Seamonkey 1.1 reports  cannot be display because it contains an error 

Pete .
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Re: [opensuse] tall PNG images don't load in Firefox

[Dave Howorth]

Ken Jennings wrote:
> Can you try loading the images and re-saving them using gimp?
> Sometimes that cleans up any irregularities in image formats.

Interesting idea. gimp loads and saves it without any problem and the
two files are different but firefox can't load either :(

> "P00720 Enterobacteria phage T4 (164) Lysozyme..."  And a long list
> of what appears to be horizontal bar charts in different shades of
> blue, green, and red.

I'm thinking of taking up a second career as an artist :)

Cheers, Dave
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Re: [opensuse] Grabbing MAC address of interface

[eshsf]

Hello,

On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 14:33:12 +0100 (MET)
Jan Engelhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> 
> now the question may seem simple ("how to grab the MAC address of a 
> given interface"), but what is actually a "portable" way that does not 
> potentially break when upgrading to a newer openSUSE?
> 
> I could fiddle with `hwinfo --network` or try parse `ip l sh dev br0` 
> output, but what's actually best? [Using sh.]

How about this?

% cat /sys/class/net/eth?/address


eshsf

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Re: [opensuse] tall PNG images don't load in Firefox

[Jan Engelhardt]

On Feb 16 2007 08:28, Ken Jennings wrote:
>On Friday 2007-02-16 05:18, Pete Connolly wrote:
>> On Friday 16 February 2007 09:57:03 Dave Howorth wrote:
>> > I have a problem with loading some PNG images in Firefox. The images are
>> > generated using GD and most of the images load OK, but some don't. As
>> > near as I can tell, it is tall (or maybe just big?) images that won't
>> > load. If I just load the PNG by itself, I see a message saying that the
>> > image cannot be displayed because it contains errors. I can successfully
>> > display these images with either xv or gimp and neither complains of any
>> > irregularities.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=162673
Definitely seems to be firefox.

>Can you try loading the images and re-saving them using gimp?  Sometimes that 
>cleans up any irregularities in image formats.

>> >  I put one of the files at
>> > > >ng
>> >
>> >>. It's 190 kB and 820x36564 pixels.
>[...]
>> >
>> > Has anybody else come across this problem? Do any of you using Firefox 2
>> > see the problem?
>>
>> Strange.  Firefox for Linux 2.0.0.2Pre says "The image
>> “http://www.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/dhoworth/f208c50af8a68669c364c22849f1d1de.png
>>” cannot be displayed, because it contains errors.".  
>[...] 
>
>Same thing here in firefox 2.0.0.2pre running on Suse 10.2 x86_64. (2G of RAM) 
> 
>Also, I clicked on the link in KMail and expected it to launch Konqueror.  
>Instead it launched Kuickshow which complained that is was "unable to load 
>the image...Perhaps the file format is unsupported or your lmlib is not 
>installed properly."  Possibly the problem.  Or not.  Remarkably, if I put 
>the link directly into Konqueror the picture loads.  "P00720 Enterobacteria 
>phage T4 (164) Lysozyme..."  And a long list of what appears to be horizontal 
>bar charts in different shades of blue, green, and red.



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Re: [opensuse] tall PNG images don't load in Firefox

[Jan Tiggy]

Peter Nikolic schrieb:

> I have just done a wget on the image  and tried to view it using xv on 10.2 
> it 
> displays a narrow vertical window full of alternate red white and green 
> stripes  with a few blues just for good measure .

On my SLED10 system only konqueror displays that file.

Neither Firefox 1.5.09 nor latest gimpshop will open that file correctly.

I hope it helps.

Thx
Jan
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Re: [opensuse] tall PNG images don't load in Firefox

[Russell Jones]

Call me a numerologist mystic if you like, but I suspect the height 
being >32767 pixels (the limit of a signed 16-bit integer) has something 
to do with it. What happens if it's resized to less than this? What if 
it's just saved with the same size by e.g. gimp?


Russell Jones

Peter Nikolic wrote:

On Friday 16 February 2007 11:51, Matthias Titeux wrote:
  

http://www.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/dhoworth/f208c50af8a68669c364c22849f1d1de.png



I have just done a wget on the image  and tried to view it using xv on 10.2 it 
displays a narrow vertical window full of alternate red white and green 
stripes  with a few blues just for good measure .  

it will not display in Konq just complains about imlib installation   and 
Seamonkey 1.1 reports  cannot be display because it contains an error 


Pete .
  


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[opensuse] limiting coredumps

[Matthew Stringer]

Hi,

more of a general Unix question than a specific openSUSE question:

My meachines run BASH, if I log in and run a program it'll run under that 
shell, I can set the ulimit for core dumps in the BASH config.

If I have a script that runs under '/bin/sh' I can add 'ulimit -H -c 0' to 
that script to set the max core dump size to zero.

I can do similar things for every different shell on my systems.

However if I call a program from Cron or did 'ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] command' 
then it 
won't run in a shell so how do I limit the size of core dumps should a 
program seg fault n crash?

Cheers

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Re: [opensuse] tall PNG images don't load in Firefox

[Jan Tiggy]

Well forgot to mention that I've installed KDE 3.5.6
So tested some other progs. So none of them beside Konqueror works with
that file.

thx

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[opensuse] Error occurred while creating the catalog - Unknown error: unable to copy media directory

[robermann]

Hi all,
an update: as promised, I kept searching and... I buied a Linux
journal with an OpenSuse DVD. This time, that worked! I again cannot
understand what changed; the only reason I can see is the different
media type. How can I make sure about the new DVD having the same
content of my other DVD not working? Cross-checking the MD5 of all
files (!) ?

By the way: I updated my Suse 9.3 with OpenSuse 10.2. It seems all
worked well, with the exception of printer settings (and Samba still
works :) ).

Bye
rob
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Re: [opensuse] cgi script to open a iptable file and modify.

[Russell Jones]

Try googling for "iptables php script"
e.g.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/phpfwgen/
http://easyfwgen.morizot.net/gen/
also
http://www.gege.org/iptables/doc/faq.html

You can try similar for other scripting languages (python, ruby, perl 
(ugh)), I'd think.


Chuck Amadi wrote:

Hi Does anyone on the list

Distro OpenSuSE, Apache2 and use cgi and not perl cgi.

Know a good mailing list to create cgi script without perl.

I have a task to pull data from our iptables file  into a editable 
html thus able to make modifications

and click on a button to restart iptables.

I have got a dirty hack that restarts the iptables But my boss would 
like a editable html form.


PS I have been looking at open function But having no joy.

# now write (append) to the file
open(INF,"firewall");  # opens firewall file for reading located in 
the cgi-bin dir.



Any suggestions or url's to anything similiar would be of great help.

Ta



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Re: [opensuse] Wireless Card

[Russell Jones]

John Andersen wrote:

John Pierce has posted:
" The problem I found after quite some snooping is that
it is on the pci express bus and not the standard bus.  The developers
are continuing to work on it but they haven't got there yet."

If the OPs machine also has the chipset on the express bus it could
be the same problem.

I've been down the fwcutter route and it refused to work.  Ndiswrapper
worked right away.  

Personally, I see little philosophical difference in hacking out firmware from 
a windows driver to plug into an open source driver  AS OPPOSED TO using 
ndiswrapper.


The latter almost always works, and the former is usually a crap shoot.
  
I've had the exact opposite experience with some Broadcom wifi cards and 
a Hauppage USB set-top box (the DEC 2000-T). I guess it depends on how 
well the firmware APIs are documented and implemented vs the NDIS APIs, 
and how complex they are. I'd also think it's possible to work around 
firmware bugs in a kernel driver in a way not really practical with a 
generic NDIS warper.



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Re: [opensuse] Desktops and program behaviour

[Michael Skiba]

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> How can I ensure that only the present Desktop is used when opening a
> link, even if it means starting a new Firefox session. I do not want to
> disturb the other sessions on the other Desktops.
As so often I'm not sure.. but try it :)

Kontrol -> KDE-Komponents -> Komponents selection (or something like that.. 
the thing with the Gearwheel) (sorry, I don't know how to run  Kontrol in a 
different language quickly).

And select "Web-Browser" and select "with following Browser:"(or something 
like that) and enter "firefox -new-window" and tell us if it works :)

With best regards 
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Re: [opensuse] Wireless Card

[Russell Jones]

John Andersen wrote:

On Thursday 15 February 2007, Danesh Daroui wrote:
  

It is solved finally. Actually, I didn't want to use "ndiswrapper" and
hence Windows drivers, since Windows is not welcomed to my systems at
all, but the other approach which is "bcm43xx-fwcutter" workd at first,
but it stopped after a while and never worked again. Now, with
"ndiswrapper" everything works fine. I also realized (maybe I am just
obsessed by OpenSuse)



No, Danesh, it is not solved until you post into this thread with
a capital SOLVED appended onto the subject.  Until you do that
the thread will carry on and drift into political issues, soup recipes
and solutions involving dead mice and paper bags.  ;-)
  

But I have this really great recipe for dead mouse and wifi card soup...
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Re: [opensuse] tall PNG images don't load in Firefox

[Dave Howorth]

Russell Jones wrote:
> Call me a numerologist mystic if you like, but I suspect the height
> being >32767 pixels (the limit of a signed 16-bit integer) has something
> to do with it. What happens if it's resized to less than this? What if
> it's just saved with the same size by e.g. gimp?

Call me a sucker if you like but I tried this. I'd been wondering the
same thing :) It's fascinating.

When I resized it to 32768 pixels high, I got the same error message.
When I resized it to 32767 pixels high, firefox crashed:

The program 'Gecko' received an X Window System error.
This probably reflects a bug in the program.
The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'.
  (Details: serial 23489 error_code 11 request_code 53 minor_code 0)
  (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
   that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
   To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
   option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
   backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)

Perhaps that's useful info to add to Jan's bug report.

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Re: [opensuse] tall PNG images don't load in Firefox

[Marcus Meissner]

On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 03:09:43PM +, Dave Howorth wrote:
> Russell Jones wrote:
> > Call me a numerologist mystic if you like, but I suspect the height
> > being >32767 pixels (the limit of a signed 16-bit integer) has something
> > to do with it. What happens if it's resized to less than this? What if
> > it's just saved with the same size by e.g. gimp?
> 
> Call me a sucker if you like but I tried this. I'd been wondering the
> same thing :) It's fascinating.
> 
> When I resized it to 32768 pixels high, I got the same error message.
> When I resized it to 32767 pixels high, firefox crashed:
> 
> The program 'Gecko' received an X Window System error.
> This probably reflects a bug in the program.
> The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'.
>   (Details: serial 23489 error_code 11 request_code 53 minor_code 0)
>   (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
>that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
>To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
>option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
>backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)
> 
> Perhaps that's useful info to add to Jan's bug report.

I seem to remember that X11 was limited to pixmaps of 32767 width and height
at some point in time.

Likely Firefox tries to create a larger one instead of rescaling before 
creation.

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Re: [opensuse] Grabbing MAC address of interface

[Sylvester Lykkehus]

eshsf wrote:

Hello,

On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 14:33:12 +0100 (MET)
Jan Engelhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

Hello,


now the question may seem simple ("how to grab the MAC address of a 
given interface"), but what is actually a "portable" way that does not 
potentially break when upgrading to a newer openSUSE?


I could fiddle with `hwinfo --network` or try parse `ip l sh dev br0` 
output, but what's actually best? [Using sh.]



How about this?

% cat /sys/class/net/eth?/address


eshsf

  

Or the long version:
/sbin/ifconfig [interface] | grep HWaddr | tail --bytes=20 | head --bytes=17

I'm sure that could be rewritten to something less ugly to ignore the 
last three "empty" bytes.


This will work on other dists aswell, where as 
/sys/class/net/eth?/address does not exists on e.g. debian iirc.


Best regards
Sylvester Lykkehus
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Re: [opensuse] Wireless Card

[John Pierce]

John Pierce has posted:
" The problem I found after quite some snooping is that
it is on the pci express bus and not the standard bus.  The developers
are continuing to work on it but they haven't got there yet."

If the OPs machine also has the chipset on the express bus it could
be the same problem.


I read on the developers list for the bcm driver that if they had a
pci express card to work with they would be able to get it working a
lot faster.


Personally, I see little philosophical difference in hacking out firmware from
a windows driver to plug into an open source driver  AS OPPOSED TO using
ndiswrapper.

The latter almost always works, and the former is usually a crap shoot.


Well, to an extent, I agree.  But if the native linux driver could be
made a solid as the ralink driver for example that would be great.  I
am writing this on an ancient IBM Thinkpad A21M with a ralink rt2500
based belkin pcmcia card attached and it works flawlessy.

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Re: [opensuse] backup data from server

[David Mayr]

Hi Evan,

> I want to setup a backup system for a server where the data is backed up
> to my laptop which connects wirelessly on the network. There should be 1
> day a week where it does a full backup and the other days just
> incrementals to a separate directory not affecting the full backup.


I'm using 'reoback' [1] for quite a long time now and I'm very happy with it.
It makes tarballs with full backups once a week and incremental ones the other 
days. It then can upload the files via ftp to somewhere you specify.


[1]  http://reoback.sourceforge.net/


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[opensuse] Problem creating ipsec tunnel between two 10.2 boxes

[Ken Gramm]

I'm trying to setup a simple ipsec tunnel between two 10.2 boxes and I'm
running into problems.  If I look at /var/log/messages I can see that my
tunnel has been established.
 
Feb 16 08:32:39 server-01 ipsec__plutorun: 004 "testlink" #2:
STATE_QUICK_I2: sent QI2, IPsec SA established {ESP=>0x68ac18fd
<0x69557d5b xfrm=AES_0-HMAC_SHA1 NATD=none DPD=none}

But I can't ping the other side.

Here is a copy of my ipsec.conf file:

++
  version 2.0

  config setup
plutowait=yes

  conn %default

  include /etc/ipsec.d/examples/no_oe.conf

  conn testlink
left=A.B.C.113
leftnexthop=A.B.C.118
leftsubnet=192.168.100.0/24
leftrsasigkey=sAQN5Ze+hnho5repR4/NY3Fg8x5ghshIdc  
  #
right=X.Y.Z.61
rightnexthop=X.Y.Z.57
rightsubnet=192.168.200.0/24
rightrsasigkey=0sAQPBqwAOBlFlRZsXiUlsE8vNHU3jrT  
  #
authby=rsasig
auto=start

++

I have ipsec enabled in SuSE firewall.
To forward packets back and forth.  I have added the string
192.168.100.0/24,192.168.200.0/24,,,ipsec
192.168.200.0/24,192.168.100.0/24,,,ipsec to FW_FORWARD in sysconfig.

A.B.C.113's route looks like:
Destination Gateway  Genmask Flags
Metric RefUse Iface
A.B.C.112   0.0.0.0  255.255.255.248 U 0
00 eth0
192.168.100.0   0.0.0.0  255.255.255.0   U 0
00 eth1
192.168.100.0   0.0.0.0  255.255.255.0   U 0
00 eth0
192.168.200.0   A.B.C.118255.255.255.0   UG0
00 eth0
127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0  255.0.0.0   U 0
00 lo
0.0.0.0 A.B.C.1180.0.0.0 UG0
00 eth0

X.Y.Z.61's route looks like:
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref
Use Iface
X.Y.Z.560.0.0.0 255.255.255.248 U 0  0
0 eth1
192.168.100.0   X.Y.Z.57255.255.255.0   UG0  0
0 eth1
192.168.200.0   0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0  0
0 eth0
192.168.200.0   0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0  0
0 eth1
127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U 0  0
0 lo
0.0.0.0 X.Y.Z.570.0.0.0 UG0  0
0 eth1

Is there something else I'm missing?

TIA,

Ken
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RE: [opensuse] backup data from server

[Administrator (Pedro Marques)]

Hi Evan,

I've been usig DAR (stands for Disk Archive) for a long time without a
problem.

You can download it at http://dar.linux.free.fr/

Pedro 

-Original Message-
From: Evan Ingram [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: sexta-feira, 16 de Fevereiro de 2007 10:16
To: opensuse@opensuse.org
Subject: [opensuse] backup data from server

Hi all

I want to setup a backup system for a server where the data is backed up
to my laptop which connects wirelessly on the network. There should be 1
day a week where it does a full backup and the other days just
incrementals to a separate directory not affecting the full backup.

I tried using a script i found called "simplebashbu", google that and
you'll find it. It seemed like it should do what i wanted, but the
incrementals didnt work. Nothing would be put in the tar's. The full
backup would be ok. I don't know whether it was because the directories
i was backing up were nfs mounted and the script didnt like it or
something and is mainly meant for local directories.

Any advice on a tool that will do what i want?

thanks all
~Evan
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Re: [opensuse] tall PNG images don't load in Firefox

[Matthias Titeux]

Le Vendredi 16 Février 2007 14:37, Peter Nikolic a écrit :
> On Friday 16 February 2007 11:51, Matthias Titeux wrote:
> > http://www.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/dhoworth/f208c50af8a68669c364c22849f1d1de.pn
> >g
>
> I have just done a wget on the image  and tried to view it using xv on 10.2
> it displays a narrow vertical window full of alternate red white and green
> stripes  with a few blues just for good measure .
>
> it will not display in Konq just complains about imlib installation   and
> Seamonkey 1.1 reports  cannot be display because it contains an error
>
> Pete .

Hi,
Using OpenSuse 10.0, i586.

I had the same complaint about imlib when I clicked on the link, but if I open 
the URL direclty in konq (copy paste the URL from the mail), it worked.

I went a  little further, and downloaded the file :

Kwickshow = complaints about imlib
Gwenview=starts to display the picture then crash
Kview=displays only a black picture
Showfoto=crash
The Gimp (2.2)=displays it and precise that the background is transparent
koulourpaint=complaint about to low graphic memory (?)

Dunno if it helps

Cheers

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Re: [opensuse] backup data from server

[Dennis E. Slice]

rsback (http://sourceforge.net/projects/rsback) is cheap (=free), easy,
and very space efficient.

"rsback makes rotating backups using the common rsync program combined
with hard-link copies on Unix-based backup hosts. This results in a fast
and disk space saving backup technique."

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Re: [opensuse] tall PNG images don't load in Firefox

[Kai Ponte]

On Friday 16 February 2007 06:32, Russell Jones wrote:
> Call me a numerologist mystic if you like, but I suspect the height
> being >32767 pixels (the limit of a signed 16-bit integer) has something
> to do with it. What happens if it's resized to less than this? What if
> it's just saved with the same size by e.g. gimp?

Okay, I downloaded it and gave a try with a few apps.

GIMP - opened just fine. 

Krita - opened just fine. That's one bizarre image.

Kwcikshow - crashed

KolourPaint - crashed with segfault - out of graphics memory message

GwenView - crashed with seg 11.

Since I'm bored - or trying to avoid digging through $128,763 in cashier 
reports to find a $473 discrepancy - I copied the file over to my Wintendo 
machine and tried it as well...

MS Paint - Opened just fine

MS Windows Picture and FAx Viewer - Opened just fine

GIMP 2.2 Windows - Opened just fine.


Go figure!




>
> Russell Jones
>
> Peter Nikolic wrote:
> > On Friday 16 February 2007 11:51, Matthias Titeux wrote:
> >> http://www.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/dhoworth/f208c50af8a68669c364c22849f1d1de.p
> >>ng
> >
> > I have just done a wget on the image  and tried to view it using xv on
> > 10.2 it displays a narrow vertical window full of alternate red white and
> > green stripes  with a few blues just for good measure .
> >
> > it will not display in Konq just complains about imlib installation   and
> > Seamonkey 1.1 reports  cannot be display because it contains an error
> >
> > Pete .

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RE: [opensuse] Grabbing MAC address of interface

[Pedro Marques]

Hi Jan,

Try this in the command line:

ifconfig | awk -F "HWaddr " '{ if ($2!="") print $2 }'


If you have more than one NIC you can  the ifconfig output 
with something like this:

ifconfig | grep eth0 | awk -F "HWaddr " '{ if ($2!="") print $2 }'

HTH,
Pedro 


-Original Message-
From: Jan Engelhardt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: sexta-feira, 16 de Fevereiro de 2007 13:33
To: opensuse@opensuse.org
Subject: [opensuse] Grabbing MAC address of interface

Hello,


now the question may seem simple ("how to grab the MAC address of a 
given interface"), but what is actually a "portable" way that does not 
potentially break when upgrading to a newer openSUSE?

I could fiddle with `hwinfo --network` or try parse `ip l sh dev br0` 
output, but what's actually best? [Using sh.]


Jan
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Re: [opensuse] Desktops and program behaviour

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On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 15:58 +0100, Michael Skiba wrote:
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> 
> Am Freitag, 16. Februar 2007 13:17 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> 
> > How can I ensure that only the present Desktop is used when opening a
> > link, even if it means starting a new Firefox session. I do not want to
> > disturb the other sessions on the other Desktops.
> As so often I'm not sure.. but try it :)
> 
> Kontrol -> KDE-Komponents -> Komponents selection (or something like that.. 
> the thing with the Gearwheel) (sorry, I don't know how to run  Kontrol in a 
> different language quickly).
> 
Thanx: It was "Personal Settings" -> "KDE Components" -> "Component
Chooser" -> "Web Browser"

> And select "Web-Browser" and select "with following Browser:"(or something 
> like that) and enter "firefox -new-window" and tell us if it works :)


This can also be enhanced in Firefox with "Preferences" -> "Tabs" ->
"New pages should be opened in: a new window/tab" 
But It did not change the behaviour opening in another desktop.
My problem is that the Firefox that is open in Desktop 3 opens the next
window when I work in Desktop 1 and click on a link in Evolution.  
When I work in Desktop 1, I want the Firefox in Desktop 1 to open and
not the one in  Desktop3.
It seems to use the last active Firefox session, irrespective of the
Desktop it is in.

:-)
Al

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Re: [opensuse] Kopete & google talk

[alex]

Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett wrote:
> I am using it right now. There is nothing special appart of:
>
> port 5223
> server is talk.google.com
> uses ssl
> plan text password
> jid is your complete gmail address
>
>   
Oh, sorry for your time.
I have removed and have anew created my account in Kopete. Now
everything is all right.


Best regards.
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Re: [opensuse] Adding new IMAP accounts with Kontact/Kmail

[Brian Jackson]

On Thursday 15 February 2007, Brian Jackson wrote:
>> Hello-
>>
>>On my 10.2 box, I'm trying to add my various IMAP email accounts in
>> Kontact, but everytime I go to 'Check What the Server Supports' in 
the
>> 'Security' tab, I get the following error:
>>
>> Connect to most .. is broken
>>
>> I currently use a suse 9.2 box for mail with Kontact, and all is
>> configured the same. It works on the 9.2 box and has for years. Even
>> on ly laptop running 10.0 is fine.
>
>Presuming that the server in question does work with other clients,
>how bout just copying the info from them and don't go with the
>query command?
>
>I seem to remember problems with query in the version of Kmail/Kontact
>that was common back then.

Sorry for the non-threaded response, new spam filtering on the server 
and well, things didn't go well... :(


I tried copying the info from the kmailrc file over to the new system, 
but it never took.

Regardless of if I use the 'query tool' (which I assume you mean the 
'Check What the Server Supports' commandIt still comes back with 
the fact that it cannot connect.

Fajar-  Firewall is not running on the system I am trying to configure 
to read mail.  Firewall is only running on my firewall/router 
system  :)

As far as pop3... I don't like pop and haven't used that since like 
1997.  I know there's the whole 'leave the mail on the server' thing, 
but that's not what I want to do.   I need to be able to check ALL mail 
(included messages moved to sub folders) from several locations: 
office, laptop, and via the web.

Now just for experiment sake, I added a new account as a pop3 and 
well...it sort worked.   I get a "server certificate authenticity test 
failed" message.  I accept and my mail shows up in a subfolder.   This 
was a Plesk setup on the server, but it's no longer in use.

I do not get this message when trying to add/check mail for the imap 
account.   I think that is where my issue is.   Is there some sort of 
setting in the Security tab that I need to set to force it to check the 
server certificate for IMAP setups?

brian

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Re: [opensuse] Grabbing MAC address of interface

[Jan Engelhardt]

On Feb 16 2007 16:15, Sylvester Lykkehus wrote:
>> > 
>> > I could fiddle with `hwinfo --network` or try parse `ip l sh dev br0`
>> > output, but what's actually best? [Using sh.]
>> 
>> How about this?
>> 
>> % cat /sys/class/net/eth?/address

Wonderul, many thanks.

> Or the long version:
> /sbin/ifconfig [interface] | grep HWaddr | tail --bytes=20 | head --bytes=17
     ^

That is what I wanted to avoid because it will totally break when the locale
changes.

> This will work on other dists aswell, where as /sys/class/net/eth?/address 
> does
> not exists on e.g. debian iirc.

Did you really need to mention the worst example!
(Anyway, even debian 3.1r4/2.6.8 has that sysfs file.)



Jan
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Re: [opensuse] Maximum tar file size

[Bryan S. Tyson]

On Saturday 10 February 2007 21:53, James Knott wrote:
> > Um, for some reason, K3B can't make a DVD out of one 4.7GB file. I don't
> > quite understand why - something to do with math, and I suck at math.
> >
> > In any case, I can put two 2 GB files on a DVD without a problem.

> It has something to do with the file format.  I use a 4 GB slice.

The key is that using standard iso, the largest file size allowed is 2 GB. If 
you have files larger than that, use UDF. There is a checkbox for this in 
k3b.

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[opensuse] Re: [solved] Desktops and program behaviour

[Michael Skiba]

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Am Freitag, 16. Februar 2007 17:37 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> This can also be enhanced in Firefox with "Preferences" -> "Tabs" ->
> "New pages should be opened in: a new window/tab"
> But It did not change the behaviour opening in another desktop.
> My problem is that the Firefox that is open in Desktop 3 opens the next
> window when I work in Desktop 1 and click on a link in Evolution.
> When I work in Desktop 1, I want the Firefox in Desktop 1 to open and
> not the one in  Desktop3.
> It seems to use the last active Firefox session, irrespective of the
> Desktop it is in.

yes that's true, some people say that's good ;) (and I think everyone has a 
different taste :D )

 but I hope this way it's okay for you :)

btw. you can see more options like this in 'man firefox' (Chapter: Firefox 
Options)

With best regards
Michael :)
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Re: [opensuse] tall PNG images don't load in Firefox

[John Andersen]

On Friday 16 February 2007, Dave Howorth wrote:
>  I put one of the files at
> >. It's 190 kB and 820x36564 pixels.

Even Kuickshow complains about that particular image.

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[opensuse] problem with webcam labtec and kernel 2.6.18.2-34 x86_64

[Piotr Modzelewski]

Hi
Recently I`ve changed computer and have problem with webcam.
Before I used opensuse 10.2 32bit and this webcam worked perfectly
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 046d:0929 Logitech, Inc.
but on opensuse 10.2 64bit something goes wrong. In log messages I got

kernel: /opt/compile/gspcav1-20070110/Sunplus/spca561.h: [spca561_init:497] 
Find spca561 USB Product ID 929
Feb 16 20:22:29 dziennik kernel: /opt/compile/gspcav1-20070110/gspca_core.c: 
[spca5xx_set_light_freq:1858] Sensor currently not support light frequency 
banding filters.
Feb 16 20:22:29 dziennik kernel: /opt/compile/gspcav1-20070110/gspca_core.c: 
[gspca_set_isoc_ep:881] ISO EndPoint found 0x81 AlternateSet 13
Feb 16 20:22:29 dziennik kernel: ohci_hcd :00:02.0: leak ed 
8100013bf5a0 (#81) state 2
Feb 16 20:22:30 dziennik kernel: /opt/compile/gspcav1-20070110/gspca_core.c: 
init isoc: usb_submit_urb(0) ret -28
Feb 16 20:22:30 dziennik kernel: /opt/compile/gspcav1-20070110/gspca_core.c: 
[gspca_set_isoc_ep:881] ISO EndPoint found 0x81 AlternateSet 12
Feb 16 20:22:30 dziennik kernel: ohci_hcd :00:02.0: leak ed 
8100013bf5f0 (#81) state 2
Feb 16 20:22:30 dziennik kernel: /opt/compile/gspcav1-20070110/gspca_core.c: 
init isoc: usb_submit_urb(0) ret -28
Feb 16 20:22:30 dziennik kernel: /opt/compile/gspcav1-20070110/gspca_core.c: 
[gspca_set_isoc_ep:881] ISO EndPoint found 0x81 AlternateSet 11
Feb 16 20:22:30 dziennik kernel: ohci_hcd :00:02.0: leak ed 
8100013bf640 (#81) state 2
Feb 16 20:22:30 dziennik kernel: /opt/compile/gspcav1-20070110/gspca_core.c: 
init isoc: usb_submit_urb(0) ret -28
Feb 16 20:22:30 dziennik kernel: /opt/compile/gspcav1-20070110/gspca_core.c: 
[gspca_set_isoc_ep:881] ISO EndPoint found 0x81 AlternateSet 10
Feb 16 20:22:30 dziennik kernel: ohci_hcd :00:02.0: leak ed 
8100013bf690 (#81) state 2
Feb 16 20:22:30 dziennik kernel: /opt/compile/gspcav1-20070110/gspca_core.c: 
init isoc: usb_submit_urb(0) ret -28
Feb 16 20:22:30 dziennik kernel: /opt/compile/gspcav1-20070110/gspca_core.c: 
[gspca_set_isoc_ep:881] ISO EndPoint found 0x81 AlternateSet 9
Feb 16 20:22:30 dziennik kernel: ohci_hcd :00:02.0: leak ed 
8100013bf6e0 (#81) state 2
Feb 16 20:22:30 dziennik kernel: /opt/compile/gspcav1-20070110/gspca_core.c: 
init isoc: usb_submit_urb(0) ret -28
Feb 16 20:22:30 dziennik kernel: /opt/compile/gspcav1-20070110/gspca_core.c: 
[gspca_set_isoc_ep:881] ISO EndPoint found 0x81 AlternateSet 8
Feb 16 20:22:30 dziennik kernel: ohci_hcd :00:02.0: leak ed 
8100013bf730 (#81) state 2
Feb 16 20:22:30 dziennik kernel: /opt/compile/gspcav1-20070110/gspca_core.c: 
init isoc: usb_submit_urb(0) ret -28
Feb 16 20:22:30 dziennik kernel: /opt/compile/gspcav1-20070110/gspca_core.c: 
[gspca_set_isoc_ep:881] ISO EndPoint found 0x81 AlternateSet 7
Feb 16 20:22:30 dziennik kernel: ohci_hcd :00:02.0: leak ed 
8100013bf780 (#81) state 2
Feb 16 20:22:30 dziennik kernel: /opt/compile/gspcav1-20070110/gspca_core.c: 
init isoc: usb_submit_urb(0) ret -28
Feb 16 20:22:30 dziennik kernel: /opt/compile/gspcav1-20070110/gspca_core.c: 
[gspca_set_isoc_ep:881] ISO EndPoint found 0x81 AlternateSet 6
Feb 16 20:22:30 dziennik kernel: ohci_hcd :00:02.0: leak ed 
8100013bf7d0 (#81) state 2
Feb 16 20:22:30 dziennik kernel: /opt/compile/gspcav1-20070110/gspca_core.c: 
init isoc: usb_submit_urb(0) ret -28
Feb 16 20:22:30 dziennik kernel: /opt/compile/gspcav1-20070110/gspca_core.c: 
[gspca_set_isoc_ep:881] ISO EndPoint found 0x81 AlternateSet 5
Feb 16 20:22:30 dziennik kernel: ohci_hcd :00:02.0: leak ed 
8100013bf820 (#81) state 2
Feb 16 20:22:30 dziennik kernel: /opt/compile/gspcav1-20070110/gspca_core.c: 
init isoc: usb_submit_urb(0) ret -28
Feb 16 20:22:30 dziennik kernel: /opt/compile/gspcav1-20070110/gspca_core.c: 
[gspca_set_isoc_ep:881] ISO EndPoint found 0x81 AlternateSet 4
Feb 16 20:22:30 dziennik kernel: ohci_hcd :00:02.0: leak ed 
8100013bf870 (#81) state 2
Feb 16 20:22:30 dziennik kernel: /opt/compile/gspcav1-20070110/gspca_core.c: 
init isoc: usb_submit_urb(0) ret -28
Feb 16 20:22:30 dziennik kernel: /opt/compile/gspcav1-20070110/gspca_core.c: 
[gspca_set_isoc_ep:881] ISO EndPoint found 0x81 AlternateSet 3
Feb 16 20:22:30 dziennik kernel: ohci_hcd :00:02.0: leak ed 
8100013bf8c0 (#81) state 2
Feb 16 20:22:30 dziennik kernel: /opt/compile/gspcav1-20070110/gspca_core.c: 
init isoc: usb_submit_urb(0) ret -28
Feb 16 20:22:30 dziennik kernel: /opt/compile/gspcav1-20070110/gspca_core.c: 
[gspca_set_isoc_ep:881] ISO EndPoint found 0x81 AlternateSet 2
Feb 16 20:22:30 dziennik kernel: ohci_hcd :00:02.0: leak ed 
8100013bf910 (#81) state 2
Feb 16 20:22:30 dziennik kernel: /opt/compile/gspcav1-20070110/gspca_core.c: 
init isoc: usb_submit_urb(0) ret -28
Feb 16 20:22:30 dziennik kernel: /opt/compile/gspcav1-20070110/gspca_core.c: 
[gspca_set_isoc_ep:881] ISO EndPoint founernateSet 1
Feb 16 20:22:30 dziennik kernel: ohci_hcd :00:02.0: leak ed 
8100013bf960 (#81) state 2
Feb 16 20:22:

Re: [opensuse] backup data from server

[John Andersen]

On Friday 16 February 2007, David Mayr wrote:
> Hi Evan,
>
> > I want to setup a backup system for a server where the data is backed up
> > to my laptop which connects wirelessly on the network. There should be 1
> > day a week where it does a full backup and the other days just
> > incrementals to a separate directory not affecting the full backup.
>
> I'm using 'reoback' [1] for quite a long time now and I'm very happy with
> it. It makes tarballs with full backups once a week and incremental ones
> the other days. It then can upload the files via ftp to somewhere you
> specify.
>
>
> [1]  http://reoback.sourceforge.net/

A backup system is measured by its RESTORE capability, not how
fast or easy it actually backs up data.

Backup is almost always scheduled and un-attended.  

Restore has everyone standing around waiting while the one
specific file deleted by accident two days ago is searched, and
restored.

When selecting backup software look to how easy it is to recover
ONE specific file and restore it to 1) its original location, and 2) an 
alternate new location.

To do this any backup system must support some form of catalog or
index and a means of quickly getting to the specific location in the 
backup to extract that file without having to wade through the entire
tape/disk image to find it.

So how does reoback handle that?

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Re: [opensuse] french dealers for 10.2

[John Andersen]

On Friday 16 February 2007, Mike McMullin wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 00:24 -0900, John Andersen wrote:
> > On Thursday 15 February 2007, Michael Loeffler wrote:
> > > And I'm not happy at all with the expensive shipment we offer through
> > > shopNovell.
> >
> > YOU'RE NOT HAPPY?  Guys in Canada got cheaper shipping than
> > I did.
>
>   Royal commission mayhap?  

Nope.  Novells shipper uses USPS priority mail for Canada ($4.80)
but will not offer that same convince to US customers insisting
on using an "overnight" service which cost me $39.00 to Alaska.

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[opensuse] Fortran 90

[Leonardo Andres Espinosa Leal]

Hi guys,

I have problems with fortran 90 in opensuse 10.2, it is not in my system. BLAS 
do not function, I dont know wath happen.

Thnaks for your help.


Leonardo Andrés Espinosa Leal
Físico
Grupo de Física de la Materia Condensada
Universidad Nacional de Colombia
Sede Bogotá
Bogotá, Colombia.

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[opensuse] Re: OpenSUSE updater

[Robert Lewis]

In addition, why does it hang for a very long time at the end of

an updater operation at 99%.  In fact often it goes to 100% and
then drops back to 99%.   During this time top reports:

7222 root  25   0 82432  44m 6248 R 91.7  4.4   5:09.40 update-status

That's 91.7% CPU utilization for a very very long time. 
This is ridiculous.
Is it a race condition or what?

I am hopeful that we don't get into a long email storm over this.

I just am really looking for quality feedback from the developers
that might result in some future good news.  Keep it positive
folks..


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Re: [opensuse] Grabbing MAC address of interface

[Sylvester Lykkehus]

 Jan Engelhardt wrote:

On Feb 16 2007 16:15, Sylvester Lykkehus wrote:
  

I could fiddle with `hwinfo --network` or try parse `ip l sh dev br0`
output, but what's actually best? [Using sh.]


How about this?

% cat /sys/class/net/eth?/address
  


Wonderul, many thanks.

  

Or the long version:
/sbin/ifconfig [interface] | grep HWaddr | tail --bytes=20 | head --bytes=17


     ^

That is what I wanted to avoid because it will totally break when the locale
changes.
  

How could a locale change break a grep for HWaddr ?
No really, could you give an example, I never did use another locale 
than EN.

Even if it would, couldn't you export the environment variable first ?
  

This will work on other dists aswell, where as /sys/class/net/eth?/address does
not exists on e.g. debian iirc.



Did you really need to mention the worst example!
(Anyway, even debian 3.1r4/2.6.8 has that sysfs file.)

  

Of course I had to! ;-)
Always consider "worst" case scenario :)

Jan
  

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Re: [opensuse] Fortran 90

[Kai Ponte]

On Friday 16 February 2007 11:56, Leonardo Andres Espinosa Leal wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I have problems with fortran 90 in opensuse 10.2, it is not in my system.
> BLAS do not function, I dont know wath happen.
>

People still use FORTRAN? 

Wow.

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[opensuse] Re: [Fwd: Re: local network/ADSL router not available after boot - manual reconfiguration needed]

[Peter Breger]

John Andersen wrote:

On Sunday 04 February 2007, Peter Breger wrote:

John Andersen wrote:




 
I thought I had seen where you configured your computer to use 
a nic rather than USB and then configured the router via a web

browser, and the problem was solved.

Did I confuse two threads?



Yes - I think you must have. But the problem is still as vexing as ever.
Regards,
Peter




Well that was the solution on that other thread, and it was mentioned
that it was the only way you will likely get it working and the usb
interface seems only available to windows, whereas the use of a
standard NIC in the machine works flawlessly and is actually
easier to manage.





John,

I am afraid that this is not it. The USRobotics router is a cable 
router, and connected via ethernet cable to the network card. No USB 
involved. Tested the hardware system with windows XP (bart PE) from CD - 
perfect, used it even before under win98. The only way it works in Linux 
Suse 10.1 is manually deleting the Network card config in Yast, running 
through the finishing sequence in Yast, then reconfigurating the network 
card with DHCP in Yast, running through the finishing sequence in Yast 
 then it works. After booting - no chance, again no connection. 
Tried both network manager and ifup = same behaviour.


Searched through the boot sequence - yes, network is being connected 
etc, but cannot get the DHCP address collected.
Question - in the boot sequence, what needs to be installed in what 
sequence to allow DHCP etc to be successfull i.e. if maybe one item is 
missing or starte din wrong sequence, then network detection, setup etc 
is not possible during boot.


Any suggestions how to detect hickups in boot sequence? (Log file is not 
very revealing for me, other than to see that DHCP acquisition is not 
successful - which I know anyway).


Peter

PS I am posting thsi direct e-mail to the mailinglist in hope of 
re-establishing finally a working thread.



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Re: [opensuse] Re: OpenSUSE updater

[Robert Lewis]

Robert Lewis wrote:
> In addition, why does it hang for a very long time at the end of
>
> an updater operation at 99%.  In fact often it goes to 100% and
> then drops back to 99%.   During this time top reports:
>
> 7222 root  25   0 82432  44m 6248 R 91.7  4.4   5:09.40 update-status
>
> That's 91.7% CPU utilization for a very very long time. 
> This is ridiculous.
> Is it a race condition or what?
>
> I am hopeful that we don't get into a long email storm over this.
>
> I just am really looking for quality feedback from the developers
> that might result in some future good news.  Keep it positive
> folks..
>   
This email was supposed to come first.  Not sure what I did.

I would very much like to hear more from the SUSE developers
on their future plans to resolve the many issues raised in this forum
about the slowness and other issues of the Updater mechanism.

For example:
A) Do we have a buy in from the developers that the issues are real and
worthy
 of fixing?
B) That the mechanism is way to slow often taking an hour or tmore to
install one rpm
C) That the current mechanism hides the complexity of the process from
the user
  not providing good feedback as to what is happening.Maybe this
is ok,
  but when things go wrong most people don't know what to do.
D) If design changes or major fixes are going to take place in a future
release
 would the developers be willing to provide us with some hopeful words
 describing what they intend to do.

Cheers,
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[opensuse] OpenSUSE updater

[Robert Lewis]

I would very much like to hear more from the SUSE developers
on their future plans to resolve the many issues raised in this forum
about the slowness and other issues of the Updater mechanism.

For example:
A) Do we have a buy in from the developers that the issues are real and
worthy
 of fixing?
B) That the mechanism is way to slow often taking an hour or tmore to
install one rpm
C) That the current mechanism hides the complexity of the process from
the user
  not providing good feedback as to what is happening.Maybe this
is ok,
  but when things go wrong most people don't know what to do.
D) If design changes or major fixes are going to take place in a future
release
 would the developers be willing to provide us with some hopeful words
 describing what they intend to do.

Cheers,
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Re: [opensuse] Grabbing MAC address of interface

[Jan Engelhardt]

Hi,


On Feb 16 2007 21:16, Sylvester Lykkehus wrote:
>> > Or the long version:
>> > /sbin/ifconfig [interface] | grep HWaddr | tail --bytes=20 | head
>> > --bytes=17
>> 
>> That is what I wanted to avoid because it will totally break when the
>> locale
>> changes.
>> 
> How could a locale change break a grep for HWaddr ?
> No really, could you give an example, I never did use another locale than EN.
> Even if it would, couldn't you export the environment variable first ?

21:39 ichi:~ > ifconfig lo
loLink encap:Local Loopback  
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:838 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:838 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
  RX bytes:108107 (105.5 Kb)  TX bytes:108107 (105.5 Kb)

21:39 ichi:~ > LC_MESSAGES=de_DE ifconfig lo
loProtokoll:Lokale Schleife  
  inet Adresse:127.0.0.1  Maske:255.0.0.0
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:838 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:838 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 Sendewarteschlangenlänge:0 
  RX bytes:108107 (105.5 Kb)  TX bytes:108107 (105.5 Kb)

As you can see:

  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  inet Adresse:127.0.0.1  Maske:255.0.0.0

and whoops, things like /bin/cut -b or head/tail --bytes are not
accurate anymore.



Jan
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Re: [opensuse] Re: OpenSUSE updater

[John Andersen]

On Friday 16 February 2007, Robert Lewis wrote:
> B) That the mechanism is way to slow often taking an hour or tmore to
> install one rpm

If you are having that problem, 
terminate the updater
open a root shell, 
rczmd stop
cd /var/lib/zmd 
  and delete the .db file there in
rczmd start
then restart the updater.

This usually solves the slows.  Also useful:
Get rid of kernel.org mirrors, they are slow and unreliable.
Get rid of unused or duplicate mirrors because they all
have to be resolved and cross checked.

Do these changes with yast BEFORE you do the above
database delete, and you end up with a fairly clean and
reasonable quick updater.  

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Re: [opensuse] Re: [Fwd: Re: local network/ADSL router not available after boot - manual reconfiguration needed]

[John Andersen]

On Friday 16 February 2007, Peter Breger wrote:
> Question - in the boot sequence, what needs to be installed in what
> sequence to allow DHCP etc to be successfull i.e. if maybe one item is
> missing or starte din wrong sequence, then network detection, setup etc
> is not possible during boot.

And you are SURE there is no firewall blacking dhcp?

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Re: [opensuse] tall PNG images don't load in Firefox

[Dave Howorth]

On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 08:25 -0800, Kai Ponte wrote:
> GIMP - opened just fine. 
> 
> Krita - opened just fine. That's one bizarre image.
> 
> Kwcikshow - crashed
> 
> KolourPaint - crashed with segfault - out of graphics memory message
> 
> GwenView - crashed with seg 11.
> 
> Since I'm bored - or trying to avoid digging through $128,763 in cashier 
> reports to find a $473 discrepancy - I copied the file over to my Wintendo 
> machine and tried it as well...
> 
> MS Paint - Opened just fine
> 
> MS Windows Picture and FAx Viewer - Opened just fine
> 
> GIMP 2.2 Windows - Opened just fine.
> 
> Go figure!

Thanks for this list. And thanks to everybody else for their
contributions. I find this all quite fascinating.

There's obviously a problem with FOSS software that Windows doesn't
suffer from. It's probably related to X - I guess it's a question of
knowing the correct idiom to use with one or other of the X libraries,
since gimp et al handle things correctly. It would be interesting to
know which libraries are used by the failing applications but perhaps
not by gimp, gv and krita. Or maybe it's just a particular way of
calling libraries.

What surprises me is that this bug has apparently been recorded for
nearly a year at a minimum, while it causes several applications to
crash and is easily reproducible. It makes Linux look bad in comparison
to Windows but it hasn't been solved!

A minor aspect that I find interesting is that nobody seems to know of
any technique to validate PNG image files. I'm amazed about that.

BTW, hope you're into your weekend now, as I am here. Chinese New Year
in 27.2 hours!

Cheers, Dave

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[opensuse] network manager & vpn & vpn client (a bit long, as I'm confused)

[Peter Van Lone]

Using SLED10, there is a nice-looking option in the network manager, a
left click on the icon in the panel, and there is a "VPN Connections"
option, you can configure vpn definitions, and then launch those that
have been configured. If you choose to configure, there is a nice
little wizard, and there is a choice to import a cisco PCF file.

Awesome.

But ... so far, I have not been able to get it to work. I constantly
get the message: "could not start the vpn connection to "profile name"
due to a connection error. Could not contact the VPN server"

Hmm .. I know the "vpn server" is accessible, and I can connect to it
using a cisco client. So, I went looking through the "Novell VPN
Client for Linux" documentation. It describes a totally different VPN
gui. It does not seem to have the nice little wizard, and does not
reference specifically cisco compatible vpn connectivity, etc. Plus
the "profile" that I had created in the network manager client, does
not appear here.

So ... are these two seperate VPN clients? Are they supposed to work
together? The only documentation I can find about the network manager
option is about a 1-paragraph description (ie not helpful).

I would love for this to work, so that we do not have to install a
cisco client. Anyone know the secret of the network manager vpn? Or
how it relates to the "novell VPN client for Linux"?

Peter

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Re: [opensuse] The BBC is asking if they should support Linux

[Mike McMullin]

On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 06:48 -0600, Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
> John Andersen wrote:
> > Given the quality of the BBC these last few years the whole
> > organization should be outlawed.  Harumph!
> >
> >
> >   
> Hey, give credit where credit is due here. They are still dreaming up
> sitcoms for American TV to copy.
> 
> AND they DID bring back Dr. Who!

  And two spin offs, Torchwood and Rose Tyler IIRC.

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[opensuse] Re: network manager & vpn & vpn client (a bit long, as I'm confused)

[Peter Van Lone]

On 2/16/07, Peter Van Lone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

addendum:

the documentation for "Novell VPN client for Linux" talks about
copying your "user certificate" to a particular path. Where do I
find/get a "user certificate"? It appears that I cannot setup a
profile without one ...

Peter
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Re: [opensuse] Re: network manager & vpn & vpn client (a bit long, as I'm confused)

[Patrick Shanahan]

* Peter Van Lone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-16-07 16:17]:
> addendum:
> 
> the documentation for "Novell VPN client for Linux" talks about
> copying your "user certificate" to a particular path. Where do I
> find/get a "user certificate"? It appears that I cannot setup a
> profile without one ...

a google search for "linux create user cerificate vpn" yealds 499,000
hits.  Adding "+suse" brings 231,000.

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Re: [opensuse] network manager & vpn & vpn client (a bit long, as I'm confused)

[Kai Ponte]

On Friday 16 February 2007 12:59, Peter Van Lone wrote:
> Using SLED10, there is a nice-looking option in the network manager, a
> left click on the icon in the panel, and there is a "VPN Connections"
> option, you can configure vpn definitions, and then launch those that
> have been configured. If you choose to configure, there is a nice
> little wizard, and there is a choice to import a cisco PCF file.


That is nice. Don't have it on OpenSuse. :P

>
> Awesome.
>
> But ... so far, I have not been able to get it to work. I constantly
> get the message: "could not start the vpn connection to "profile name"
> due to a connection error. Could not contact the VPN server"


First off, you're on the intraweb, right?

Second, do you have your PCF file loaded and readable by all processes?

I have the VPN Client for Cisco (command line) and have it located in 

/etc/opt/cisco-vpnclient/Profiles/


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Re: [opensuse] Grabbing MAC address of interface

[Sylvester Lykkehus]

Jan Engelhardt wrote:

Hi,
  
21:39 ichi:~ > ifconfig lo
loLink encap:Local Loopback  
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0

  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:838 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:838 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
  RX bytes:108107 (105.5 Kb)  TX bytes:108107 (105.5 Kb)


21:39 ichi:~ > LC_MESSAGES=de_DE ifconfig lo
loProtokoll:Lokale Schleife  
  inet Adresse:127.0.0.1  Maske:255.0.0.0

  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:838 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:838 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 Sendewarteschlangenlänge:0 
  RX bytes:108107 (105.5 Kb)  TX bytes:108107 (105.5 Kb)


As you can see:

  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  inet Adresse:127.0.0.1  Maske:255.0.0.0

and whoops, things like /bin/cut -b or head/tail --bytes are not
accurate anymore.



Jan
  

Hi again,

You could have shown an interface which actually has a hardware address 
;-), but I get your point;

A grep for HWaddr is not valid since it changes name over different locales.

However, I still think something like:
/sbin/ifconfig [interface] | head -n1 | tail --bytes=20 | head --bytes=17

would always apply, since different locales does not change the position 
of the output of the address itself (as far as i know)

Hence it would always be 1. line, last 20 chars (-3 "empty" at the end).

Best regards
Sylvester
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Re: [opensuse] Grabbing MAC address of interface

[Randall R Schulz]

On Friday 16 February 2007 12:40, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> ...
>
> > How could a locale change break a grep for HWaddr ?
> > ...
>
> 21:39 ichi:~ > ifconfig lo
> loLink encap:Local Loopback
>   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
>   ...
>
> 21:39 ichi:~ > LC_MESSAGES=de_DE ifconfig lo
> loProtokoll:Lokale Schleife
>   inet Adresse:127.0.0.1  Maske:255.0.0.0
>   ...
>
> As you can see:
>
>   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
>   inet Adresse:127.0.0.1  Maske:255.0.0.0
>
> and whoops, things like /bin/cut -b or head/tail --bytes are not
> accurate anymore.

Then perhaps you could fix the locale in the invocation you want to use 
to extract the MAC address (just as you did to generate this example).


Though personally, I think using the system's introspection files 
(e.g., /sys/class/net/eth?/address), while not portable outside Linux, 
is a lot cleaner than scraping information from the output of commands 
that is intended to be read by humans.


>
> Jan


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[opensuse] 10.2 drops USB nic after 3-min - wusb54g-v4

[Bill-Schoolcraft]

Hello Family,

Well my wireless (usb) Linksys wusb54g, with the "ralink" chip, keeps
getting dropped, meaning the link-light goes out, power light goes out,
zilch...

I reinstalled 9.3 - 10.0 - 10.1 and now back to 10.2 and I was convinced
it was the USB unit itself till I rebooted into FreeBSD-6.2 and
Win-2000.

This laptop is triple booted so cross-testing is fairly accurate.  It's
been up for three(3) days now on FreeBSD-6.2 and the same when booted
into Win-2k.

My question is that I thought whether a (usb) NIC is supported or not,
the power && link lights normally lite up, then it's time for the driver
stuff...

So, what on Earth would cause SuSE-10.2 to not only drop the connection
but turn "OFF" the device too leaving me with "NO" power nor link light?.

Is there some USB subsystem configuration files that are adjustable?

I got it to work with a static ip but it would always turn off.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: OpenSUSE updater

[Joe Morris (NTM)]

Robert Lewis wrote:
> Robert Lewis wrote:
>   
>> In addition, why does it hang for a very long time at the end of
>>
>> an updater operation at 99%.  In fact often it goes to 100% and
>> then drops back to 99%.   During this time top reports:
>>
>> 7222 root  25   0 82432  44m 6248 R 91.7  4.4   5:09.40 update-status
>>
>> That's 91.7% CPU utilization for a very very long time. 
>> This is ridiculous.
>> Is it a race condition or what?
>>
>> 
> For example:
> A) Do we have a buy in from the developers that the issues are real and
> worthy
>  of fixing?
>   
It would probably really help if you would realize in 10.2 there are now
2 choices.  One is called zen-updater, the other is called
opensuseupdater.  By you subject, which one would you suspect you are
talking about?  Wrong, you are describing zen-updater.  By confusing the
2 you do not add clarity to the updater problems.
> B) That the mechanism is way to slow often taking an hour or tmore to
> install one rpm
>   
Since the 2 are aimed at different use scenarios, maybe you are making
this harder than NOW is necessary.  The developers do realize there are
problems.  That is why they created opensuseupdater.  Try it, you'll
like it.  It is much more lightweight than zen-updater, only trying to
notify the user of security updates.  Zen-updater is designed to notify
of an update in every configured repository.  Which do you think would
need more resources?  Add to that load the fact that it isn't just a
matter of seeing something newer, but making sure it isn't a rogue
package by verifying the gpg signature.  That is why IMHO zen-updater is
doomed by design.  I would suggest trying the product you mention in
your subject.

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[opensuse] Checking System Mail

[Adam Jimerson]

When I log into one of my terminal windows, F1-F6, I am informed that I
have mail, and I'm guessing that it is the system mail, which I did
check that option during the installation, so how do I go about checking it?
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Re: [opensuse] Checking System Mail

[Anders Johansson]

On Saturday 17 February 2007 01:11, Adam Jimerson wrote:
> When I log into one of my terminal windows, F1-F6, I am informed that I
> have mail, and I'm guessing that it is the system mail, which I did
> check that option during the installation, so how do I go about checking
> it?

In your mail program, add another incoming mail service for your account, and 
instead of pop or imap, select local spool. The file is /var/spool/mail/

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Re: [opensuse] Checking System Mail

[Randall R Schulz]

Adam,

On Friday 16 February 2007 16:11, Adam Jimerson wrote:
> When I log into one of my terminal windows, F1-F6, I am informed that
> I have mail, and I'm guessing that it is the system mail,

You're being informed about the content of the mail-drop file whose name 
is held in the $MAIL environment variable.

E.g.:

% echo $MAIL
/var/spool/mail/rschulz


> which I did check that option during the installation, so how do I go
> about checking it?

I use a KMail Receiving account of type "local" targeting the 
aforementioned mail drop file to receive such locally delivered mail. 
As far as I know, all the usual Unix / Linux command-line mail clients 
will retrieve mail from this file by default.


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Re: [opensuse] Re: network manager & vpn & vpn client (a bit long, as I'm confused)

[Kai Ponte]

On Friday 16 February 2007 13:20, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> * Peter Van Lone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-16-07 16:17]:
> > addendum:
> >
> > the documentation for "Novell VPN client for Linux" talks about
> > copying your "user certificate" to a particular path. Where do I
> > find/get a "user certificate"? It appears that I cannot setup a
> > profile without one ...
>
> a google search for "linux create user cerificate vpn" yealds 499,000
> hits.  Adding "+suse" brings 231,000.

IOTW, you can now spend the next six weeks wading through two hundered and 
thirty one thousand hits to find an answer.

Yikes!

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Re: [opensuse] Re: OpenSUSE updater

[John Andersen]

On Friday 16 February 2007, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
> Robert Lewis wrote:
 
> Since the 2 are aimed at different use scenarios, maybe you are making
> this harder than NOW is necessary.  The developers do realize there are
> problems.  That is why they created opensuseupdater.  Try it, you'll
> like it.  It is much more lightweight than zen-updater, only trying to
> notify the user of security updates.  Zen-updater is designed to notify
> of an update in every configured repository.  Which do you think would
> need more resources?  Add to that load the fact that it isn't just a
> matter of seeing something newer, but making sure it isn't a rogue
> package by verifying the gpg signature.  That is why IMHO zen-updater is
> doomed by design.  I would suggest trying the product you mention in
> your subject.

Before you dump all over Robert, bear in mind that the software
that sits in the tray does not report its name, other than to say its
the software updater.  Is that the zen updater or the opensuse updater?

And where does one get the opensuseupdator?  Its not listed in
my menuing system.  


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