Re: [opensuse-factory] konquerer / KDE SSL problem?

2007-03-11 Thread Joost

On 3/11/07, Andras Mantia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sunday 11 March 2007, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
 s this a KDE or a SUSE bug though?

It happens with a self compile KDE as well (on openSUSE 10.2), so
*might* be a KDE bug.

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happens on pcbsd as well, so it's not a SUSE or linux bug



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[opensuse-factory] Linux audio foks

2007-03-11 Thread Donn Washburn

Hey Group;

I have the record player  phono In  line out going to the sound card
Line In.  Hopefully the impedance is good enough and the level is OK.
It plays out of the speakers and sounds OK also.  Now for the question ?
I would like to save the music as a mp3, ogg or whatever.  Kmix spots it
as a Line Input.  What is needed to capture it and put it in a file.
Say like a mixer record output

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Checksum errors on packages.en

2007-03-11 Thread Magnus Boman
On Sun, 2007-03-11 at 18:17 -0500, Donn Washburn wrote:
 Magnus Boman wrote:
  On Fri, 2007-03-09 at 19:25 -0600, Donn Washburn wrote:
  Magnus Boman wrote:
  Hello list!
 
  I have an issue when at home which I'm hoping for some help with.
 
  I have two installation sources on my machines (I've got two machines
  and 4 different installations of openSUSE 10.3Alpha1Plus).
 
  http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/ftp.opensuse.org/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory
  http://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/
  http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/
 
 
  Cheers,
  Magnus
  I believe it is due to the fact that SuSE's update is looking for a 
  repodata file.
  Try
  http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/ftp.opensuse.org/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/
 
  Well, I found that using ftp works and I could use http from my office,
  just not from home. So there's something else wrong here. At least using
  ftp allows me to update my machine now :-)
  
  Cheers,
  Magnus
 At home Firewall, NAT, router, gateway, DNS settings.  Try this and see 
 if you are at least getting out.  This is a friends site so only do it 
 for a very short time. ping 44.76.5.200
 
 It should look like this if the ethernet network is working.
 64 bytes from 44.76.5.200: icmp_seq=2 ttl=114 time=139 ms

There's nothing that prevents me from accessing the internet. I don't
have a proxy so nothing is cached. The packages.en file that gives me
checksum errors (when using http in the installation source) is
downloading, it's just that the SHA1 checksum doesn't match what's in
the content file (funny enough, the md5 checksum matches).

Cheers,
Magnus

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[opensuse-factory] Update notification via mail

2007-03-11 Thread Christian Boltz
Hello,

an outstanding feature of the new package management is sending a mail 
to root with the available updates listed. Not a problem on a desktop 
machine (there's opensuse-updater ;-) , but really needed on a server.

I have written such a application. Well, application is exaggerated - 
it's a 10 lines script calling zypp-checkpatches-wrapper + 110 lines of 
XSLT stylesheet.

Download: package patch2mail on 
http://software.opensuse.org/download/home:/cboltz/openSUSE_10.2/repodata/
(also available for factory)

Usage is easy: just install the package ;-)

Every time cron.daily runs, it will send you a mail if updates are 
available.

Questions:
- is sending the mail to root ok or should the mail address be a config 
  option?
- is it ok to install to /etc/cron.daily directly? (IMHO yes, several 
  other packages (for example logdigest) do this also.)
- any other ideas?
- will it be included in 10.3? ;-)

On my todo list:
- add a line listing the zypper command to install a specific patch
  (ready for copypaste)


BTW: What is the correct command to install a specific patch?

zypper in -t patch -y yast2-printer
works, but I'd like to include  the patch number.

   zypper in -t patch -y yast2-printer-2706-0
does not work - patch 'yast2-printer-2706-0' not found :-(


Regards,

Christian Boltz

PS: an example notification mail looks like this:

~
Update sources:
- SUSE-Linux-10.2-Updates (http://suse.inode.at/pub/update/10.2)


=== yast2-printer - Patch 2706-0 (recommended) ===

yast2-printer: show remote printers

This patch will fix several bugs: (#240727) - show also
remote printers (#220712) - if more PPD's are available,
select recommended first (#214243) - suggest PPD file for
the selected printer (#223838) - select proper default queue


=== kernel - Patch 2705-0 (security) ===

Linux Kernel security update.

This kernel update fixes the following security problems:

- CVE-2006-5751: An integer overflow in the networking
  bridge ioctl starting with Kernel 2.6.7 could be used by
  local  attackers to overflow kernel memory buffers and
  potentially escalate privileges  [#222656]

[... several other issues ...]

Furthermore, it catches up to the mainline kernel, version
2.6.18.8, and contains a large number of additional fixes
for non security bugs.



Total: 2 updates (1 security)

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Linux audio foks

2007-03-11 Thread Sid Boyce

Donn Washburn wrote:

Hey Group;

I have the record player  phono In  line out going to the sound card
Line In.  Hopefully the impedance is good enough and the level is OK.
It plays out of the speakers and sounds OK also.  Now for the question ?
I would like to save the music as a mp3, ogg or whatever.  Kmix spots it
as a Line Input.  What is needed to capture it and put it in a file.
Say like a mixer record output



No luck with audacity?
The Input selections in 1.3.2 are Vol, Line, Mic, CD, Line1, Phonein, 
Phoneout and Video. You should then be able to record from the Line input.


File -- Export as -- MP3 or whatever format.
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Re: [opensuse] PDFedit and rtld(GNU_HASH)

2007-03-11 Thread jdd

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Alternative is if anyone knows of an OSS app that allows editing of PDF
files and adding pages to PDF documents, and creating one PDF document
from many other PDF files. I used Adobe Acrobat 6 Professional before on
M$Windblows. Anything like that for Linux around?


any printing app can create pdf through kprinter. pdftk can merge pdf
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Re: [opensuse] SATA RAID recommendations?

2007-03-11 Thread Anders Norrbring

Anders Norrbring skrev:

Hans du Plooy skrev:
[8]

I actually haven't heard anything negative about Highpoint so far, not
much positive either... At least they do manufacture quite some chips
for Adaptec, so I guess their stuff shouldn't stink too much?


Which chips do they manufacture?  The RAID controller (shudder) or the
SATA controller?   I remember the LSI SATA-160 card had the LSI RAID card
had three Sil3112 chips on (to control the six drives) and the LSI RAID
controller on top of that.  I assume the RAID controller is the same one
used on the SCSI cards I used (had the same crap performance).



I just placed an order for the Highpoint 1820 8-channel controller and 
6x500 WD disks.. I'll report here how I feel about the controller when 
it's installed in a couple of days. :)




Alright folks.. STAY AWAY from this piece of junk!
I'll put out the Highpoint on eBay for a dollar, it's a no-good piece of 
trash, which of course doesn't show up ANYWHERE until you actually try 
to use it.


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Re: [opensuse] EULA Required for Updated OpenSuSE 10.2 Kernel Patch

2007-03-11 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 04:33:22PM -0600, Terry Eck wrote:
 I never thought I'd see the day when I'd be required to agree to a MS EULA!
 Anyone else think this a bit too much? The window title of the EULA 
 agreement
 was License Agreement for kernel-2705-patch-message-2 (message).
 
 Is this some kind of early April Fools Day joke?

The kernel uses this message to ask for confirmation of installation.

Its full text is:


 This update can be used to install a new kernel.
 
 If you decide to use the kernel update, we recommend that you reboot
 your system upon completion of the YaST Online Update, as additional
 kernel modules may be needed which can only be loaded after the system
 is rebooted.

 If you are in the course of performing a new installation, you should
 deselect this kernel update in order to avoid problems with the hardware
 detection during the installation.
...

It is transported by means of a license message, but is not a license.

It should not show EULA or Microsoft ;) If it does, it is definitely a bug.

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Re: [opensuse] linux-kernel-headers-2.6.18.8-0.1 IS MISSING!!!

2007-03-11 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 12:43:27AM +, Walter Dresen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 not quite sure who to report this to - but after the latest online
 update of the kernel  (OSS Suse10.2) - the corresponding headers are
 missing and nowhere to be found.
 
 those are the ones i have installed after the update:
 
 kernel-docs-2.6.18.2-34
 kernel-xen-2.6.18.8-0.1
 kernel-syms-2.6.18.8-0.1
 linux-kernel-headers-2.6.18.2-3
 kernel-source-2.6.18.8-0.1
 kernel-default-2.6.18.8-0.1
 
 
 As you can see - the kernel headers are still for the old version of the
 kernel.

These are unrelated to the actual kernel update.
The export API of the kernel for userland has not changed.

Ciao, Marcus
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Re: [opensuse] setting up secondary DNS with Yast (SuSE 10.0)

2007-03-11 Thread David Brodbeck
M Harris wrote:
   I suppose the way to handle this is to make the first server a caching 
 nameserver forwarding to the second server and then outside. The second 
 server then forwards only outside. Changes are made to the second server 
 *only* (or it caches from outside) and the primary server gets its changes by 
 caching the second. If the primary is down the secondary gets it. If the 
 secondary is down the primary forwards to its secondary forwarder (outside). 
 I'm gonna have to play with this some more  just for fun...   :)
   

I missed what you need this for, but if the idea is to provide local DNS
for a LAN, while also being able to resolve outside names, you may want
to look at the dnsmasq package.  It's designed to do specifically
that, and it's easier to set up than a full-blown nameserver.

Of course, if your goal is to learn bind, you should go ahead and work
on setting up named.conf to do what you want. :)


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Re: [opensuse] smbmount failed??

2007-03-11 Thread David Brodbeck
Kai Ponte wrote:
 I don't have 10.2 yet - and am not going at all until this is fixed - but 
 I've 
 read on this and other lists that SMB was somehow deleted from SUSE at that 
 version and replaced with something inferior.
   

It was supposed to be replaced by cifs, which is smbfs embraced and
extended to add some features useful for *nix hosts mounting shares
from other *nix hosts.  The idea is to make it more of a general network
filesystem instead of just something for working with Windows hosts.

Unfortunately it seems cifs isn't quite ready for primetime yet and is
lacking some functionality that's in smbfs.  Like often happens it
appears smbfs got deprecated and removed before the replacement was
fully ready.
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Re: [opensuse] smbmount failed??

2007-03-11 Thread John Andersen
On Sunday 11 March 2007, David Brodbeck wrote:
 Unfortunately it seems cifs isn't quite ready for primetime yet and is
 lacking some functionality that's in smbfs.  

The only thing it lacks IIRC is the ability to mount a 
windows 9X share on the Linux machine.

Mounting WinNT/2K/XP/Vista shares works but the
syntax is tricky.

With cifs there is a good possibility to get rid of 
nfs and all the coordination of user-ids that is required
for that.  cifs might not be QUITE as fast as nfs, but
it has a lot of other things going for it.

So again, the only thing missing is mounting a win9x
share on linux. 

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Re: [opensuse] Lexmark X4270

2007-03-11 Thread John Andersen
On Saturday 10 March 2007, Fred A. Miller wrote:
 By chance, does anyone have openSUSE working with a Lexmark X4270. NORMALLY 
 I'd just have someone get a new printer, as I have a real dislike for 
 Lexmark, but these people just don't have the income required to get much of 
 anything replaced. So, I'd like to get it working for them, IF I can. 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Fred

If that is a postscript printer you can usually import the windows
.ppd file right into cups with either yast or the cups web interface.

If not a postscript printer figure out the closest laserjet and 
lie to cups.  



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Re: [opensuse] setting up secondary DNS with Yast (SuSE 10.0)

2007-03-11 Thread John Andersen
On Saturday 10 March 2007, M Harris wrote:
 ... the client only moves to the second nameserver if the first is 
 unavailable... if the first cannot resolve the name ( but was available to do 
 the lookup ) then the name remains unresolved.

This is true for the client side.
However I am not sure this is the case for bind itself. It might be
smart enough to check all its sources / referrers (or what ever its
upstream is called).

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Re: [opensuse] smbmount failed??

2007-03-11 Thread Verner Kjærsgaard
Søndag 11 marts 2007 10:47 skrev John Andersen:
 On Sunday 11 March 2007, David Brodbeck wrote:
  Unfortunately it seems cifs isn't quite ready for primetime yet and is
  lacking some functionality that's in smbfs.  

 The only thing it lacks IIRC is the ability to mount a
 windows 9X share on the Linux machine.

 Mounting WinNT/2K/XP/Vista shares works but the
 syntax is tricky.

 With cifs there is a good possibility to get rid of
 nfs and all the coordination of user-ids that is required
 for that.  cifs might not be QUITE as fast as nfs, but
 it has a lot of other things going for it.

 So again, the only thing missing is mounting a win9x
 share on linux.

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I use CIFS to mount a couple of SMB shares from my central file server into my 
laptop. I used to be able to run a script as an ordinary user (having chmod 
+2 some smbmount files) to accomplish this.

- Now, I have to run the mounting scripts as root...annoying. What can I do?

Here is the script:
#!/bin/bash
mount -t cifs //172.16.9.100/LNXfavk /home/vk/Documents/sun/favk-o 
username=vk,password=secret,workgroup=LINUXGROUP,rw

This is from the directory containing it:
-rwsr-sr-x 1 root users  898 18 dec 21:40 sun.sh

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Re: [opensuse] smbmount failed??

2007-03-11 Thread Verner Kjærsgaard
Søndag 11 marts 2007 11:08 skrev Verner Kjærsgaard:
 Søndag 11 marts 2007 10:47 skrev John Andersen:


 I use CIFS to mount a couple of SMB shares from my central file server into
 my laptop. I used to be able to run a script as an ordinary user (having
 chmod +2 some smbmount files) to accomplish this.

 - Now, I have to run the mounting scripts as root...annoying. What can I
 do?

 Here is the script:
 #!/bin/bash
 mount -t cifs //172.16.9.100/LNXfavk /home/vk/Documents/sun/favk-o
 username=vk,password=secret,workgroup=LINUXGROUP,rw

 This is from the directory containing it:
 -rwsr-sr-x 1 root users  898 18 dec 21:40 sun.sh



TYPO in my former message!
should read: chmod +s, not chmod+2..


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Re: [opensuse] SATA RAID recommendations?

2007-03-11 Thread John Andersen
On Saturday 10 March 2007, Anders Norrbring wrote:
  I just placed an order for the Highpoint 1820 8-channel controller and 
  6x500 WD disks.. I'll report here how I feel about the controller when 
  it's installed in a couple of days. :)
  
 
 Alright folks.. STAY AWAY from this piece of junk!
 I'll put out the Highpoint on eBay for a dollar, it's a no-good piece of 
 trash, which of course doesn't show up ANYWHERE until you actually try 
 to use it.

Oh, I dono,,,  Its probably fine if you find the jumper to disable
the on board raid controller and just use it for all the channels
with software raid.




/running and ducking...

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Re: [opensuse] smbmount failed??

2007-03-11 Thread John Andersen
On Sunday 11 March 2007, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
 Søndag 11 marts 2007 10:47 skrev John Andersen:
  On Sunday 11 March 2007, David Brodbeck wrote:
   Unfortunately it seems cifs isn't quite ready for primetime yet and is
   lacking some functionality that's in smbfs.  
 
  The only thing it lacks IIRC is the ability to mount a
  windows 9X share on the Linux machine.
 
  Mounting WinNT/2K/XP/Vista shares works but the
  syntax is tricky.
 
  With cifs there is a good possibility to get rid of
  nfs and all the coordination of user-ids that is required
  for that.  cifs might not be QUITE as fast as nfs, but
  it has a lot of other things going for it.
 
  So again, the only thing missing is mounting a win9x
  share on linux.
 
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 I use CIFS to mount a couple of SMB shares from my central file server into 
 my 
 laptop. I used to be able to run a script as an ordinary user (having chmod 
 +2 some smbmount files) to accomplish this.
 
 - Now, I have to run the mounting scripts as root...annoying. What can I do?
 
 Here is the script:
 #!/bin/bash
 mount -t cifs //172.16.9.100/LNXfavk /home/vk/Documents/sun/favk-o 
 username=vk,password=secret,workgroup=LINUXGROUP,rw
 
 This is from the directory containing it:
 -rwsr-sr-x 1 root users  898 18 dec 21:40 sun.sh

Well I do a similar thing for one of my customers machines.
I mount a samba share (from SLES 9) onto a subdirectory of his personal 
directory.

It happens automatically at boot time.  We want the samba server to handle 
permissions on its end
and hence we use the noperms parameter. Without that the local linux machine 
attempts to manage
permissions on the samba server.  (Shades of nfs all over again).

This line appears in /etc/fstab on the workstation, mounting a share on the 
machine named hai 
(sorry, this is bound to wrap):
//hai/data   /home/benh/data  cifs   
auto,user,uid=1000,gid=1003,file_mode=0660,dir_mode=0770,ip=192.168.0.1,noacl,noperm,nocase,credentials=/home/benh/benscreds
 1 2

If for some reason he unmounts that and has to remount it without a re-boot, 
the user parameter is
given in fstab, and with kde, you can ask for an icon on the desktop to 
mount/unmount that drive

(Configure Desktop /desktop/behavior/Device Icons/mounted+Unmounted samba 
shares)

If there are some you don't want mounted automatically just remove the auto 
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Re: [opensuse] SATA RAID recommendations?

2007-03-11 Thread Anders Norrbring

John Andersen skrev:

On Saturday 10 March 2007, Anders Norrbring wrote:
I just placed an order for the Highpoint 1820 8-channel controller and 
6x500 WD disks.. I'll report here how I feel about the controller when 
it's installed in a couple of days. :)



Alright folks.. STAY AWAY from this piece of junk!
I'll put out the Highpoint on eBay for a dollar, it's a no-good piece of 
trash, which of course doesn't show up ANYWHERE until you actually try 
to use it.


Oh, I dono,,,  Its probably fine if you find the jumper to disable
the on board raid controller and just use it for all the channels
with software raid.




/running and ducking...



Don't run.. Hehe.. It's not even that hard (finding the jumper), it's 
actually a software based piece of trash with a BIOS onboard. So, to use 
software RAID is just a matter of choice between Linux RAID or Highpoint 
RAID, software in both cases.


It's out of my box, and I will never, ever recommend Highpoint to any of 
our clients. Geez.
At least the others has the decency to inform presumptive customers 
about the software fact when you check their product info pages on web 
sites, but not Highpoint. I wrote them a very angry letter as well as 
requested a RMA from my distributor...


Oh, I also placed an order for a Adaptec 2820SA HBA which is a real RAID 
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Re: [opensuse] smbmount failed??

2007-03-11 Thread Verner Kjærsgaard
Søndag 11 marts 2007 11:27 skrev John Andersen:



 On Sunday 11 March 2007, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
  Søndag 11 marts 2007 10:47 skrev John Andersen:
   On Sunday 11 March 2007, David Brodbeck wrote:
Unfortunately it seems cifs isn't quite ready for primetime yet and
is lacking some functionality that's in smbfs.
  
   The only thing it lacks IIRC is the ability to mount a
   windows 9X share on the Linux machine.
[..]

 If there are some you don't want mounted automatically just remove the
 auto parameter.

SOLVED!
- thank you!

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[opensuse] Wireless Broadcom BCM4318 (AirForce One 54g) on SUSE10.2

2007-03-11 Thread Verner Kjærsgaard
I made a blunder. Sometime ago I promissed myself and the world that I would 
NEVER buy or recommend HP laptops EVER more for their lousy support of all 
Linux.

I broke that rule 2 days ago, a friend of mine bought and brougt me a HP 
Pavilion dv5000 wanting a plain fresh fine SuSE10.2 onto it. I did so,works 
fine, except the f! $@@++# wireless, being a Broadcom4318.

On the net there are various instructions as to how-to go on about this. I 
fell however, that they are somewhat outdated, now that we the networkmanager 
and all in SuSE10.2

Can anyone please direct me to a how-to or something to help me get this thing 
on the air?

As allway, thank you!!



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Re: [opensuse] SATA RAID recommendations?

2007-03-11 Thread jdd

Anders Norrbring wrote:


actually a software based piece of trash with a BIOS onboard.


Oh, I also placed an order for a Adaptec 2820SA HBA which is a real RAID 
controller


sqorry if I seem silly, but how can any raid controller work without 
any software? if not in user space nor kernel space; it must be 
somewhere onboard?


any scsi controller (any hdd, by the way) have some sort of software 
onboard :-)


of course there is good and bad software (evan the microprocessor have 
software :-)


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Re: [opensuse] SATA RAID recommendations?

2007-03-11 Thread Sandy Drobic
jdd wrote:
 Anders Norrbring wrote:
 
 actually a software based piece of trash with a BIOS onboard.
 
 Oh, I also placed an order for a Adaptec 2820SA HBA which is a real
 RAID controller

 sqorry if I seem silly, but how can any raid controller work without any
 software? if not in user space nor kernel space; it must be somewhere
 onboard?

The real question is which functions reside in the module and which
reside in the raid hba.
In earlier times software raid was frowned upon because the server cpu had
to compute the necessary raid striping, which degraded performance, but
today most cpus are not taxed enough to validate that argument.

I have a dual boot installation Suse/WinXP on a hardware raid5, I dare you
to try that with software raid. (^-^)

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Re: [opensuse] halt / reboot waiting time

2007-03-11 Thread Thomas Hertweck

Anders Norrbring wrote:
 I have a small problem, when the system goes for shutdown or reboot, 
 the waiting time is too short for a process.
 
 I run a VMware on the system, it can take up to 7-10 minutes to shut 
 down all VMs properly, and the system is too eager to shut down.
 So, before VMware has finished its shutdown properly, SUSE kills the 
 processes which results in heavily screwed up disks in the VMs.
 
 How can I extend the waiting time for shutdown/reboot so that VMware can 
 exit properly?

man shutdown:

-t sec Tell init(8) to wait sec seconds between sending processes the
warning and the kill signal, before changing to another runlevel.
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Re: [opensuse] [Repost]: Using an extra driver at install-time

2007-03-11 Thread Thomas Hertweck

Philippe Andersson wrote:
 Can anyone out there please help ?
 
 Any pointer to documentation explaining how to hack / customize the
 OpenSuSE installer would be welcome.

I am not sure whether this is of any help in your current situation, but
it might be worth a look:

http://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/hvogel/Update-Media-HOWTO/

In old days, one could use a floppy disk to provide additional modules
at boot or installation time, respectively. You pointed out that your
system has no floppy drive - maybe SuSE has meanwhile implemented other
ways of providing additional modules. Unfortunately, I cannot answer
this question since I am still using an old version ;-) Maybe just boot
the installation medium and check what methods are available...

Cheers, Th.
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Re: [opensuse] SATA RAID recommendations?

2007-03-11 Thread Anders Norrbring

Sandy Drobic skrev:

jdd wrote:

Anders Norrbring wrote:


actually a software based piece of trash with a BIOS onboard.
Oh, I also placed an order for a Adaptec 2820SA HBA which is a real
RAID controller


sqorry if I seem silly, but how can any raid controller work without any
software? if not in user space nor kernel space; it must be somewhere
onboard?


The real question is which functions reside in the module and which
reside in the raid hba.
In earlier times software raid was frowned upon because the server cpu had
to compute the necessary raid striping, which degraded performance, but
today most cpus are not taxed enough to validate that argument.

I have a dual boot installation Suse/WinXP on a hardware raid5, I dare you
to try that with software raid. (^-^)



Also, on top of that, I absolutely need 100% transparent hot-spare 
functionality, no matter the O/S being running or not.


So, off-board RAID software isn't an option. That means, bye-bye 
Highpoint...


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Re: Re: [opensuse] halt / reboot waiting time

2007-03-11 Thread Anders Norrbring

Thomas Hertweck skrev:

Anders Norrbring wrote:
I have a small problem, when the system goes for shutdown or reboot, 
the waiting time is too short for a process.


I run a VMware on the system, it can take up to 7-10 minutes to shut 
down all VMs properly, and the system is too eager to shut down.
So, before VMware has finished its shutdown properly, SUSE kills the 
processes which results in heavily screwed up disks in the VMs.


How can I extend the waiting time for shutdown/reboot so that VMware can 
exit properly?


man shutdown:

-t sec Tell init(8) to wait sec seconds between sending processes the
warning and the kill signal, before changing to another runlevel.


Well.. Not really.
I want the scripts to actually WAIT until VMware has exited. The -t 
option to shutdown is used to set the time the system waits from sending 
the shutdown message to screen until it starts the shutdown process.


I need to set the waiting time IN the script for a process to end. 
VMware simply takes too long for the script to wait, it thinks that 
VMware is stuck, and kills it instead of waiting for it to end.


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Re: [opensuse] Server for online-updates

2007-03-11 Thread Josef Wolf
On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 02:11:24AM +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:

 Just go to Yast, select source, type yours.

You can't do that while installing.

 If you mean during the install phase, I don't like to allow updates during 
 the install.

What's wrong with that?  I find this very convenient.  You get an
up-to-date system right after the install.
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Re: [opensuse] Server for online-updates

2007-03-11 Thread Josef Wolf
On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 12:50:53AM -0600, Rajko M. wrote:
 On Saturday 10 March 2007 19:07, Josef Wolf wrote:
  On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 07:30:08AM -0600, Rajko M. wrote:
 ...
   User friendly where to many choices can confuse user ;-)
 
  This user friendliness results in:
 
   - increased load on the mirrors (since packages are downloaded although
 they are available in my local squid cache)
   - thrashing of my squid cache (packages are stored multiple times there)
   - slow installs (since packages need to be downlaoded from slow
 mirrors through the net although they are available locally in my squid
 cache)
 
  This is what you call user friendly?  Artifically slowing down the
  install procedure is user friendly?
 
 Artifically is not the case. People are trying to make installer
 faster, but  obviously they have few more 
 
 Is there any particular reason that you want to use squid, or it is used 
 anyway and having cached files is nice convenience? 

Well, I'm trying to speed up the installation process.  There is no way
that downloading through the DSL line (probably using some slow mirror
from an different continent) could be faster than retrieving them with
100MBps from my local squid cache.

Squid on my external router caches everything on port 80 anyway.  Therefore
the patches are cached, too if I select some HTTP source.  But the cache
is pretty worthless when every installed box uses a different source.
This is why I want the possibility to choose a specific mirror at
installation time.
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Re: [opensuse] halt / reboot waiting time

2007-03-11 Thread Thomas Hertweck

Anders Norrbring wrote:
 [...]
 Well.. Not really.
 I want the scripts to actually WAIT until VMware has exited. The -t 
 option to shutdown is used to set the time the system waits from sending 
 the shutdown message to screen until it starts the shutdown process.

No. It should be the time between sending a SIGTERM and a SIGKILL signal.

The time when to start the shutdown process is given as a shutdown
argument, not an option.
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Re: [opensuse] Recommended by Microsoft

2007-03-11 Thread Matt T.
  (Header) From: Jan Karjalainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  (Header) User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909)

Oh well ;-)
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Re: **** SPAM **** Re: [opensuse] halt / reboot waiting time

2007-03-11 Thread Anders Norrbring

Thomas Hertweck skrev:

Anders Norrbring wrote:

[...]
Well.. Not really.
I want the scripts to actually WAIT until VMware has exited. The -t 
option to shutdown is used to set the time the system waits from sending 
the shutdown message to screen until it starts the shutdown process.


No. It should be the time between sending a SIGTERM and a SIGKILL signal.

The time when to start the shutdown process is given as a shutdown
argument, not an option.


My mistake, sorry.
Anyway, what's the default time? I can't see any option to find out..

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Re: [opensuse] Wireless Broadcom BCM4318 (AirForce One 54g) on SUSE10.2 (SOLVED)

2007-03-11 Thread Verner Kjærsgaard
Søndag 11 marts 2007 13:01 skrev Verner Kjærsgaard:
 I made a blunder. Sometime ago I promissed myself and the world that I
 would NEVER buy or recommend HP laptops EVER more for their lousy support
 of all Linux.

[..]

Oops, just came across some old notes. Problem solved. If others want to know, 
this is what I did...

Downloaded (from somewhere...think it was a HP site) a file called SP23107.exe 
(NOT the newer SP31463.exe).
Installed bcm43xx-fwcutter from the SuSE DVD.
Extracted the SP23..exe file using windows. Copied all files to a stick.
Back to SuSE, copied from the stick into a temp dir. 
Ran /usr/bin/bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware bcml5.sys. This extracted 
and copied the needed -fw files to /lib/firmware. 
Suse10.2 allready had a driver named bcm43xx installed and registrered in 
Yast/Network and all. Restarted the network, unplugged the cable, typed in 
credentials and code - and was airborne.




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Re: **** SPAM **** Re: [opensuse] halt / reboot waiting time

2007-03-11 Thread jdd

Anders Norrbring wrote:


No. It should be the time between sending a SIGTERM and a SIGKILL signal.


can't you make a script sending a SIGTERM to all vmware sessions 
before invoking shutdown (with a wait between?


jdd


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Re: [opensuse] Wireless Broadcom BCM4318 (AirForce One 54g) on SUSE10.2

2007-03-11 Thread John Pierce

fine, except the f! $@@++# wireless, being a Broadcom4318.

On the net there are various instructions as to how-to go on about this. I
fell however, that they are somewhat outdated, now that we the networkmanager
and all in SuSE10.2

Can anyone please direct me to a how-to or something to help me get this thing
on the air?


1.  Go to /etc/modprobe.d/ and with your favorite text editor, add a
line to blacklist like this blacklist bcm43xx.

2.  Install ndiswrapper and the kernel module for ndiswrapper.  uname
-r at a command line will get you the current version of the running
kernel.

3.  Get the wireless driver from hp's website, if you still have
windows in another partition you can get it from there as long as it
is win xp or 2000.  Not the Vista driver.  You are looking for two
files, bcmwl5.inf and bcmwl5.sys (make sure you have the 32 or 64 bit
version depending on which kernel you are running.

4.  Use ndiswrapper to install the driver.  Like this: ndiswrapper -i
bcmwl5.inf, then copy the bcmwl5.sys file to the /lib/firmware/
directory.

5.  Start yast2 - Network Devices - Network Card and choose
traditional with ifup, then add a new card, you will need to know the
settings for your access point and all, under the advanced use
ndiswrapper for the kernel module.  Then next and supply the necessary
info for the wireless.

6.  Finish the installation and exit from YaST2.

7.  Use the following command to load the driver:  modprobe ndiswrapper

8.  Use ifconfig to see what interfaces are up and running, you will
probably see eth0 and Lo.  Do ifdown eth0 and press enter, then do
ifup wlan0.  If all went well you should have a connection.

These are the steps that I used, just read up on ndiswrapper.  The
problem with the bcm43xx driver has to do with pcie bus.

Good luck

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Re: [opensuse] Wireless Broadcom BCM4318 (AirForce One 54g) on SUSE10.2

2007-03-11 Thread John Pierce

On 3/11/07, John Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 fine, except the f! $@@++# wireless, being a Broadcom4318.

 On the net there are various instructions as to how-to go on about this. I
 fell however, that they are somewhat outdated, now that we the networkmanager
 and all in SuSE10.2

 Can anyone please direct me to a how-to or something to help me get this thing
 on the air?

1.  Go to /etc/modprobe.d/ and with your favorite text editor, add a
line to blacklist like this blacklist bcm43xx.

2.  Install ndiswrapper and the kernel module for ndiswrapper.  uname
-r at a command line will get you the current version of the running
kernel.

3.  Get the wireless driver from hp's website, if you still have
windows in another partition you can get it from there as long as it
is win xp or 2000.  Not the Vista driver.  You are looking for two
files, bcmwl5.inf and bcmwl5.sys (make sure you have the 32 or 64 bit
version depending on which kernel you are running.

4.  Use ndiswrapper to install the driver.  Like this: ndiswrapper -i
bcmwl5.inf, then copy the bcmwl5.sys file to the /lib/firmware/
directory.

5.  Start yast2 - Network Devices - Network Card and choose
traditional with ifup, then add a new card, you will need to know the
settings for your access point and all, under the advanced use
ndiswrapper for the kernel module.  Then next and supply the necessary
info for the wireless.

6.  Finish the installation and exit from YaST2.

7.  Use the following command to load the driver:  modprobe ndiswrapper

8.  Use ifconfig to see what interfaces are up and running, you will
probably see eth0 and Lo.  Do ifdown eth0 and press enter, then do
ifup wlan0.  If all went well you should have a connection.

These are the steps that I used, just read up on ndiswrapper.  The
problem with the bcm43xx driver has to do with pcie bus.

Good luck

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One additional note, you may need to add the pci=nommconf line to the
kernel command line options in /boot/grub/menu.lst and do a reboot.
For some reason, without that option the usb subsystem will disable
the driver when it is installed.

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Re: Re: [opensuse] halt / reboot waiting time

2007-03-11 Thread Anders Norrbring

jdd skrev:

Anders Norrbring wrote:

No. It should be the time between sending a SIGTERM and a SIGKILL 
signal.


can't you make a script sending a SIGTERM to all vmware sessions before 
invoking shutdown (with a wait between?


jdd




I'm actually thinking about it... However, I'm not sure how the UPS 
software will handle that. Of course, I can rename the halt, reboot 
and shutdown, then add new scripts and links.


I'm looking in /etc/init.d/rc as well to see if I can find something out 
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Re: [opensuse] halt / reboot waiting time

2007-03-11 Thread Thomas Hertweck

Anders Norrbring wrote:
 Thomas Hertweck skrev:
 [...]
 No. It should be the time between sending a SIGTERM and a SIGKILL signal.

 The time when to start the shutdown process is given as a shutdown
 argument, not an option.
 
 My mistake, sorry.
 Anyway, what's the default time? I can't see any option to find out..

You should really familiarise yourself with the manual pages... :)

man init:

When init is requested to change the runlevel, it sends the warning
signal SIGTERM to all processes that are undefined in the new runlevel.
  It then waits 5 seconds before forcibly terminating these processes
via the SIGKILL signal.[...]
telinit can also tell init how long it should wait between sending
processes the SIGTERM and SIGKILL signals. The default is 5 seconds,
but this can be changed with the -t sec option.


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Re: Re: [opensuse] halt / reboot waiting time

2007-03-11 Thread Anders Norrbring

Thomas Hertweck skrev:

Anders Norrbring wrote:

Thomas Hertweck skrev:

[...]
No. It should be the time between sending a SIGTERM and a SIGKILL signal.

The time when to start the shutdown process is given as a shutdown
argument, not an option.

My mistake, sorry.
Anyway, what's the default time? I can't see any option to find out..


You should really familiarise yourself with the manual pages... :)

man init:

When init is requested to change the runlevel, it sends the warning
signal SIGTERM to all processes that are undefined in the new runlevel.
  It then waits 5 seconds before forcibly terminating these processes
via the SIGKILL signal.[...]
telinit can also tell init how long it should wait between sending
processes the SIGTERM and SIGKILL signals. The default is 5 seconds,
but this can be changed with the -t sec option.




Yeah.. But that 5 second period is happening far away from the rc master 
script that controls the processes.
The VMware processes are started and stopped via its rc script 
/etc/init.d/vmware, so the problem isn't in the end of everything, the 
problem is that the halt (shutdown) is called even though the stop 
script has not finished.


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Re: [opensuse] halt / reboot waiting time

2007-03-11 Thread Anders Norrbring

Anders Norrbring skrev:

jdd skrev:

Anders Norrbring wrote:

No. It should be the time between sending a SIGTERM and a SIGKILL 
signal.


can't you make a script sending a SIGTERM to all vmware sessions 
before invoking shutdown (with a wait between?


jdd


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Re: [opensuse] halt / reboot waiting time

2007-03-11 Thread Kai Ponte
On Sunday 11 March 2007 07:50:58 am Thomas Hertweck wrote:
 Anders Norrbring wrote:
  Thomas Hertweck skrev:
  [...]
  No. It should be the time between sending a SIGTERM and a SIGKILL
  signal.
 
  The time when to start the shutdown process is given as a shutdown
  argument, not an option.
 
  My mistake, sorry.
  Anyway, what's the default time? I can't see any option to find out..

 You should really familiarise yourself with the manual pages... :)

 man init:



That's funny!


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Re: [opensuse] Kernel Building Resources Recommendations

2007-03-11 Thread Thomas Hertweck

Randall R Schulz wrote:
 [...]
 1) Specific recommendations on the most expedient way to endow the 
 kernel in openSUSE 10.2 with this USB support. In particular, is it 
 possible to simply load (or build and load) a kernel module to reenable 
 the USB filesystem (known variously as usbfs, usbdevfs, USB_DEVICEFS, 
 or /proc/bus/usb)?

usbfs is not implemented as a separate kernel module. As far as I know,
you need to recompile the usbcore module if you want to re-enable usbfs.

 2) Assuming a full kernel rebuild is required, I'd like to get some 
 recommendations for informational resources of a tutorial nature on how 
 to build a late-model kernel with emphasis on anything 
 openSUSE-specific or -related. I found this How-To Forge article: 
 http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_suse. If anyone is 
 familiar with it and can comment on its usefulness, that would be 
 helpful.

Well, I would not really recommend this Howto, but that's just my
personal opinion :)

 [...]
 1. Install kernel-sources and kernel-syms
 2. copy .config and Modules.symvers from /usr/src/linux-obj/your 
 kernel to /usr/src/linux
 3. make oldconfig
 4. make menuconfig, select the usbfs
 5. make modules  make modules_install
 6. change noauto to auto for the usbfs in fstab
 7. reboot
 8. ta-da 

I think, the following procedure might work (however, it's untested
since I do not have a 10.2 installation):

$ cd /usr/src/linux
$ make cloneconfig
$ vi .config
change
# USB_DEVICEFS is not set
to
USB_DEVICEFS=y
$ make oldconfig
$ make drivers/usb/core/usbcore.ko

and then install this new module (i.e. replace the standard usbcore.ko
module in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ with this new one). That should avoid
the time-consuming process of compiling all modules (make modules).
However, this will only work if all the USB_DEVICEFS functionality is
really contained in the usbcore module (I think it is but I am not 100%
sure). If not, then you have to re-compile additional modules and a
make modules might be a safe way to do it. Maybe someone using 10.2
can report which way works best.

Please note that this method is not using a build directory, i.e. it
will build the module(s) in place (i.e. in the kernel source tree).

Also note that you'll have to go through this procedure again after
upgrading a SuSE kernel.

Cheers, Th.
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Re: [opensuse] Kernel Building Resources Recommendations

2007-03-11 Thread Randall R Schulz
Thomas,

Thanks for replying... For being the _only_ one to reply!

As it turns out, this project has already taken place, though not with 
complete success.

More below.


On Sunday 11 March 2007 08:34, Thomas Hertweck wrote:
 Randall R Schulz wrote:
  [...]
  1) Specific recommendations on the most expedient way to endow the
  kernel in openSUSE 10.2 with this USB support. In particular, is it
  possible to simply load (or build and load) a kernel module to
  reenable the USB filesystem (known variously as usbfs, usbdevfs,
  USB_DEVICEFS, or /proc/bus/usb)?

 usbfs is not implemented as a separate kernel module. As far as I
 know, you need to recompile the usbcore module if you want to
 re-enable usbfs.

That, at least, I discovered / figured out when I ran make menuconfig 
for the first time.


  2) Assuming a full kernel rebuild is required, I'd like to get some
  recommendations for informational resources of a tutorial nature on
  how to build a late-model kernel with emphasis on anything
  openSUSE-specific or -related. I found this How-To Forge article:
  http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_suse. If anyone is
  familiar with it and can comment on its usefulness, that would be
  helpful.

 Well, I would not really recommend this Howto, but that's just my
 personal opinion :)

It did not seem to lead me totally astray. I went with the suggestion of 
creating an RPM (because I was using one computer to do the build but 
the result was intended primarily for my friend's computer). This is 
where things fell down, probably because I don't know enough about how 
kernel RPMs work, what happens when they're installed. How the source 
RPM is fabricated (in particular, why I can have more than one kernel 
but apparently only one set of kernel sources installed at any one 
time).

If you know of better resources for newbie kernel builders, I'd love to 
hear about them.


  [...]
  1. Install kernel-sources and kernel-syms
  2. copy .config and Modules.symvers from /usr/src/linux-obj/your
  kernel to /usr/src/linux
  3. make oldconfig
  4. make menuconfig, select the usbfs
  5. make modules  make modules_install
  6. change noauto to auto for the usbfs in fstab
  7. reboot
  8. ta-da

 I think, the following procedure might work (however, it's untested
 since I do not have a 10.2 installation):

I think it's too minimal for practical purposes, especially if you want 
to transport the new kernel to another system.


 $ cd /usr/src/linux
 $ make cloneconfig
 $ vi .config
 change
 # USB_DEVICEFS is not set
 to
 USB_DEVICEFS=y
 $ make oldconfig
 $ make drivers/usb/core/usbcore.ko

I was able to alter the configuration using make menuconfig and the 
kernel, once installed, _did_ have usbfs available. Getting VMware to 
configure has continued to elude us, however.


 and then install this new module (i.e. replace the standard
 usbcore.ko module in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ with this new one).
 That should avoid the time-consuming process of compiling all modules
 (make modules). However, this will only work if all the USB_DEVICEFS
 functionality is really contained in the usbcore module (I think it
 is but I am not 100% sure). If not, then you have to re-compile
 additional modules and a make modules might be a safe way to do it.
 Maybe someone using 10.2 can report which way works best.

 Please note that this method is not using a build directory, i.e. it
 will build the module(s) in place (i.e. in the kernel source tree).

When I ran menuconfig I gave the configuration a variant name, but 
somehow I still didn't get a new build directory.

For reasons I have not yet figured out, the VMware configuration script 
will not succeed on a system where I installed the resulting kernel RPM 
and its corresponding source RPM.


 Also note that you'll have to go through this procedure again after
 upgrading a SuSE kernel.

Yeah. That much I knew. I don't know a way around this aspect other than 
to wait for VMware to catch up with the move away from usbfs.

But presumably anything I can do once, I can do again... Presumably.

Thankfully, I have a very fast machine, so a kernel recompilation 
doesn't take all that long.


 Cheers, Th.


Again, thanks for taking the time to reply.


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Re: [opensuse] CD/DVD question

2007-03-11 Thread Istvan Gabor
 The problem with that, is that you have to redo it for 
every different
 CD/DVD you put in.
 
 Personnaly, I'd quite like a simple setup whereby my CD/
DVDs are
 auto-mounted as /media/cdrom0, /media/cdrom1, USB stuff 
as /media/usb0,
 etc.
 
 Solaris has been doing this for, oh, over ten years. It 
mounts the CD
 under it's volume name, then creates a sym link from 
cdrom0 to the
 volume name.
 
 GTG

There is an SDB page that describes how to create static mount 
points for CD/DVD drives:
http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Mounting_to_Static_Mount_Points

Unfortunately - according to the description - this method can't 
be applied to USB sticks in SUSE = 10.0.

If one knows a solution for USB sticks, please let me know.
I asked this before but got no answer.
(http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2007-03/msg00068.html)

Cheers,
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Re: [opensuse] Server for online-updates

2007-03-11 Thread Rajko M.
On Sunday 11 March 2007 08:16, Josef Wolf wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 02:11:24AM +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
  Just go to Yast, select source, type yours.

 You can't do that while installing.

  If you mean during the install phase, I don't like to allow updates
  during the install.

 What's wrong with that?  I find this very convenient.  You get an
 up-to-date system right after the install.

Josef,

Taking explanation in answer to my post I think that is good idea for feature 
request on http://bugzilla.novell.com . That was the only way for a long time 
and you gave viable reason why it should stay that way. 

You have your own HTTP proxy. 
Internet service providers have proxies, for sure, to save bandwidth. 
So permanent changing the source of installation is not good for anyone:
- ISP have the same problem as you, high usage of cache,
- openSUSE looks slow as it often downloads direct from server instead from 
proxy
- customers have to wait longer if the mirror is for some reason slow

As it is impossible to have software repository URI stored somewhere during 
installation manual option has to be enabled again. 

This is list of all enhancement requests that has to be checked out to avoid 
duplicates:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advancedshort_desc_type=fulltextshort_desc=installlong_desc_type=fulltextlong_desc=bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstrbug_file_loc=status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstrstatus_whiteboard=keywords_type=anywordskeywords=bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=NEEDINFObug_status=REOPENEDbug_status=RESOLVEDbug_status=VERIFIEDbug_status=CLOSEDbug_severity=Enhancementrep_platform=PCrep_platform=i386rep_platform=i586rep_platform=i686rep_platform=x86-64rep_platform=x86rep_platform=64bitrep_platform=32bitemailassigned_to1=1emailtype1=substringemail1=emailassigned_to2=1emailreporter2=1emailqa_contact2=1emailcc2=1emailtype2=substringemail2=bugidtype=includebug_id=votes=chfieldfrom=chfieldto=Nowchfieldvalue=cmdtype=doitorder=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+timefield0-0-0=nooptype0-0-0=noopvalue0-0-0=
hopefully it will be not wrapped. I know that KMail will not wrap as it uses 
blank space. 
 
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Re: [opensuse] Mplayer install problem

2007-03-11 Thread chika
olaaa,
i have also installed 10.2, mplayer is the most needed multimedia player
for me  i don't use yast due on bad internet connection so i download
the dependencies(deps) manually, rpmseek.com(google also :p) helps me a
lot for the deps package.

well done, my MPlayer works
wish u get better than what i've got


br,

tambun

 Hello SuSE people,

 Running a brand new install of 10.2 and trying to get all of the good
 stuff installed again.

 Trying to install Mplayer with either Yast or Smart. Tells me I cannot
 for a dependency named liblirc_client.so.0

 So I did a pin on that file and it came up with
 lirc-32bit-0.8.0-41.x86_64.rpm and lirc-0.8.0-41.x86_64.rpm
 Looking in Yast tells me that they are infrared packages. Sure don't seem
 right to me.

 Can anybody tell me what is wrong here?

 Bob S.














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[opensuse] Bugzila Advanced Search screen improvement

2007-03-11 Thread Rajko M.

I think that bugzilla Advanced Search screen layout is a bit confusing.

  https://bugzilla.novell.com/query.cgi

The screen is divided in:
  summary
  product, component information
  bug details
  status, resolution, severity, etc...

While you can select criteria in any of the groups, search button included by 
every group implies that only that criteria will be used. 
That is not the case. 

IMHO, it would be better to keep buttons for sections as now with changed 
functionality, if one wants that only one section to be applied to search.

One additional button under all sections will help to make clear that it 
applies to all sections. 

What do you think? 

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Re: [opensuse] Kernel Update questions

2007-03-11 Thread Mike
On Saturday 10 March 2007 06:46, Marcus Meissner wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 12:59:59PM +0700, Constant Brouerius van Nidek 
wrote:
  On Saturday 10 March 2007 06:29, ianseeks wrote:
On Friday 09 Mar 2007, Adam Jimerson wrote:
I have a couple of questions about the Kernel 2.6.18.8-0.1 update,

 The bug is number 252911.

 Ciao, Marcus

Thanks to this bug I have a completely broken system, with no working options 
in menu.lst  I can only get into the system by booting off the install disk.

The menu.lst that was written out after the update is basically blank, with 
entries that have no information (no kernel, root, etc.).  This persists even 
if I go to yast-bootloader and ask it to propose a new configuration.

I tried falling back to the install kernel, but have the same problem with a 
broken menu.lst.  Does anyone know what package is used to compose and write 
out the menu.lst file?
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Re: [opensuse] Adding biometric security to a computer

2007-03-11 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Michael S. Dunsavage [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I was wondering if it is poosible to add biometrics security to a laptop or
 computer somehow via a usb finger scanner or whatever.

Yes, check the libthinkfinger package - it's part of 10.2 ;-)

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Re: [opensuse] linux-kernel-headers-2.6.18.8-0.1 IS MISSING!!!

2007-03-11 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Walter Dresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hmm - why is it then - that an attempt to uninstall the unused kernel
 headers breaks about 50+ !! dependencies?

Which ones?  Please give us some more details.  do you have a screenshot?

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[opensuse] [OpenSuSE] net install behind the proxy-server with authentication

2007-03-11 Thread chika
the problem looks have a solution coz there is a protocol given by this
lovely distribution.

before i get this distro installed(finally i burned only the first iso,
the rest iso'es i mounted on local directory), i try net install from
miniiso, sound practicaly. everything work till i get prompt on the red
box proxy authentication error 407.

the fact is my http-proxy want the user+password input before download n
install those package; hmm i have user+password... the question is how i
input them to this installation

[should i input them manually on the console(Ctrl+Alt+F2)... then set
http_proxy=proxy-server:portset proxy-password=xxx.. set
proxy-user=]...

is there better way without doing this???

br,

tambun

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Re: Re: [opensuse] halt / reboot waiting time

2007-03-11 Thread Tom Patton
On Sun, 2007-03-11 at 16:02 +0100, Anders Norrbring wrote:
 
 Yeah.. But that 5 second period is happening far away from the rc master 
 script that controls the processes.
 The VMware processes are started and stopped via its rc script 
 /etc/init.d/vmware, so the problem isn't in the end of everything, the 
 problem is that the halt (shutdown) is called even though the stop 
 script has not finished.
 
 I hope you follow my thoughts now, so you understand what I'm writing about.
 
I don't use vmware, but had similar issue with Zoneminder closing it's
mySQL db on time.  I made zm script last-to-start and first-to-kill
which solved the problem.

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Re: [opensuse] halt / reboot waiting time

2007-03-11 Thread Anders Norrbring

Tom Patton skrev:

On Sun, 2007-03-11 at 16:02 +0100, Anders Norrbring wrote:
Yeah.. But that 5 second period is happening far away from the rc master 
script that controls the processes.
The VMware processes are started and stopped via its rc script 
/etc/init.d/vmware, so the problem isn't in the end of everything, the 
problem is that the halt (shutdown) is called even though the stop 
script has not finished.


I hope you follow my thoughts now, so you understand what I'm writing about.


I don't use vmware, but had similar issue with Zoneminder closing it's
mySQL db on time.  I made zm script last-to-start and first-to-kill
which solved the problem.

Tom in NM


Yeah.. But my VMware is actually the first to stop, but as it takes up 
to 10 minutes to finish, the system kills it prematurely.


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Re: [opensuse] [OpenSuSE] net install behind the proxy-server with authentication

2007-03-11 Thread jdd

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http_proxy=proxy-server:portset proxy-password=xxx.. set


dunno exactly, may be something like

http://login:passwd@url:port

?

jdd


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Re: [opensuse] halt / reboot waiting time

2007-03-11 Thread jdd

Anders Norrbring wrote:

Yeah.. But my VMware is actually the first to stop, but as it takes up 
to 10 minutes to finish, the system kills it prematurely.


may be this is the problem? why does it takes so long? may be some 
config could avoid this. I used vmware time ago and never got so long 
time (the drives where smaller, then, but the HW slower also)


jdd


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Re: [opensuse] Kopete google talk

2007-03-11 Thread Martin Mrazik
On Thursday 15 February 2007 16:37, alex wrote:
 Hello,

 anybody use google talk account in Kopete?

 I can setup it in Gaim, but fail with Kopete  :(

I tried that once and it worked quite fine. Just setup a new Jabber account. I 
can't remember the settings any more (e.g. which server to use) but you 
should be able to find this info somewhere on the google/gmail pages.

Thanks,

Martin



 Best regards.
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Re: [opensuse] K9copy

2007-03-11 Thread Fred A. Miller
On Sunday 11 March 2007 1:24:02 am Mike wrote:
 On Sunday 11 March 2007 06:55, Fred A. Miller wrote:
a problem with bad sectors on DVDs. I'm not sure, as I just
copied a dual-layer commercial DVD that I want to make an archive
copy from, creating an ISO. K9 barfed on the ISO.
   
Is there any other software that will compress a dual layer to a
single layer DVD as well as K9?

 Have you tried lxdvdrip? I've used it a couple of times and it seems to
 work OK. It's CLI though, but I didn't have a problem. No special
 parameters that weren't in the config file except for language. Easily
 changed to English..

Thanks, Mike.I'll take a look!

Fred

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Re: [opensuse] Lexmark X4270

2007-03-11 Thread Fred A. Miller
On Sunday 11 March 2007 5:50:13 am John Andersen wrote:
 On Saturday 10 March 2007, Fred A. Miller wrote:
  By chance, does anyone have openSUSE working with a Lexmark X4270.
  NORMALLY I'd just have someone get a new printer, as I have a real
  dislike for Lexmark, but these people just don't have the income required
  to get much of anything replaced. So, I'd like to get it working for
  them, IF I can.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Fred

 If that is a postscript printer you can usually import the windows
 .ppd file right into cups with either yast or the cups web interface.

 If not a postscript printer figure out the closest laserjet and
 lie to cups.

'Don't think it's a PS printer, so wondered if anyone else had figured out a 
printer that would work. 'Guess I'll have to mess around with it. :(

Fred

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Re: [opensuse] Wireless Broadcom BCM4318 (AirForce One 54g) on SUSE10.2

2007-03-11 Thread Fred A. Miller
On Sunday 11 March 2007 8:01:28 am Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
 I made a blunder. Sometime ago I promissed myself and the world that I
 would NEVER buy or recommend HP laptops EVER more for their lousy support
 of all Linux.

 I broke that rule 2 days ago, a friend of mine bought and brougt me a HP
 Pavilion dv5000 wanting a plain fresh fine SuSE10.2 onto it. I did so,works
 fine, except the f! $@@++# wireless, being a Broadcom4318.

 On the net there are various instructions as to how-to go on about this. I
 fell however, that they are somewhat outdated, now that we the
 networkmanager and all in SuSE10.2

 Can anyone please direct me to a how-to or something to help me get this
 thing on the air?

 As allway, thank you!!

There are several ways to get it to work.one is go to: 
http://www.linuxant.com/driverloader/?PHPSESSID=a19bfa2a17e22cf3b93b7224b5105f01

'NOT very much for a properly installed driver that WILL work. It uses 
ndiswrapper, which you MUST install online before you do the install from 
linuxant. Get online first to get it all and do the install.

Fred

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[opensuse] dst patch for suse-release-9.3-4

2007-03-11 Thread Simpson, Kenneth

Hi - would someone please show me how to update 

suse-release-9.3-4

to the correct timezone? 

Note, I need to patch only the DST problem - we can't afford to update the 
entire OS at this time.

For release suse-release-9.2-3.1 I was able to use the following (followed 
by a reboot yesterday)

  /usr/bin/wget 'ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzdata2007c.tar.gz'
  /bin/tar -xzvf tzdata2007c.tar.gz
  /usr/sbin/zic -d zoneinfo northamerica
  cd zoneinfo
  /bin/cp -r * /usr/share/zoneinfo/
  /usr/sbin/zdump -v /usr/share/zoneinfo/PST8PDT | grep 2007
  /usr/sbin/zdump -v /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Los_Angeles | grep 2007

but this didn't work for suse-release-9.3-4. 

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Re: [opensuse] halt / reboot waiting time

2007-03-11 Thread Anders Norrbring

jdd skrev:

Anders Norrbring wrote:

Yeah.. But my VMware is actually the first to stop, but as it takes up 
to 10 minutes to finish, the system kills it prematurely.


may be this is the problem? why does it takes so long? may be some 
config could avoid this. I used vmware time ago and never got so long 
time (the drives where smaller, then, but the HW slower also)


jdd


I don't think it's a long time, after all, it has to shut down 17 VMs 
before exiting.. ;)  I'm certain it can be solved somehow, I just don't 
see it ATM.. I'll keep looking at it.



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[opensuse] Problem with kbluetoothd

2007-03-11 Thread Alberto Garcia
Hi all,
I have a problem with kbluetoothd. When i start kbluetoothd all run perfect 
except kbtobexsrv, my computer is not visible from my phone. All the rests of 
services run fine. I can send files from desktoop to phone, etc... 
Well.. now I start the applet for Gnome bluetooth-applet and now my computer 
is VISIBLE from my phone.
What make bluetooth-applet that not make kbluetoothd ?¿ 
All the configuration files are no-touch, the installation (opensuse 10.2, kde 
3.5.6) is new... 
Thanx in advanced...
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Re: [opensuse] linux-kernel-headers-2.6.18.8-0.1 IS MISSING!!!

2007-03-11 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Walter Dresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 ...sure - here you go. I only send you the first bit though (note the
 size of the proportional scroll bar)

Now I see.  glibc-devel requires linux-kernel-headers.  And
glibc-devel is one of the base development packages.  So, removing it,
indeed breaks a lot of other packages,

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Re: [opensuse] linux-kernel-headers-2.6.18.8-0.1 IS MISSING!!!

2007-03-11 Thread Darryl Gregorash
On 2007-03-11 12:33, Walter Dresen wrote:
 snip

 I have lots of self-compiled stuff on my system. And I think the headers
 are needed for compiling yourself. Even though that most (or all) should
 be in the kernel sources.
 snip
   
Of course all the headers are in the kernel-source package --
kernel-headers is only needed for other source packages which for some
reason require the kernel headers (example system parameter
definitions), but again, they are included in the source package. They
are offered as a separate package for those who do not need to have the
entire kernel source (which for 2.6.11.4 amounts to some 240MB).


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Re: [opensuse] halt / reboot waiting time

2007-03-11 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Sunday 11 March 2007 12:14, Anders Norrbring wrote:
 ...

 I don't think it's a long time, after all, it has to shut down 17 VMs
 before exiting.. ;)  I'm certain it can be solved somehow, I just
 don't see it ATM.. I'll keep looking at it.

It's easy enough to write a script that does not return until no 
instances of a given executable are running, especially if the 
executable is a unique one, which VMware's executive is (vmware-vmx, 
at least as of version 5.5 under a Linux host OS). A simple while loop 
using pidof is enough:

  while pidof vmware-vmx /dev/null 21; do
echo vmware-vmx still running
sleep 2
  done


The next part, getting the shutdown process to wait might be a little 
trickier. I recommend studying the manual pages for init and inittab. I 
think in essence adding a wait-style action (i.e., one with wait in 
its third field) for run level 0 that invokes the 
wait-for-VMware-to-exit script should suffice.


Good luck. Let us know what you come up with. I occasionally shut down 
without remembering to stop my VMware process ('cause I tend to keep 
the window minimized and often forget that's running).


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Re: [opensuse] dst patch for suse-release-9.3-4

2007-03-11 Thread James Knott
Simpson, Kenneth wrote:
 Hi - would someone please show me how to update 

 suse-release-9.3-4

 to the correct timezone? 

 Note, I need to patch only the DST problem - we can't afford to update the 
 entire OS at this time.

 For release suse-release-9.2-3.1 I was able to use the following (followed 
 by a reboot yesterday)

   /usr/bin/wget 'ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzdata2007c.tar.gz'
   /bin/tar -xzvf tzdata2007c.tar.gz
   /usr/sbin/zic -d zoneinfo northamerica
   cd zoneinfo
   /bin/cp -r * /usr/share/zoneinfo/
   /usr/sbin/zdump -v /usr/share/zoneinfo/PST8PDT | grep 2007
   /usr/sbin/zdump -v /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Los_Angeles | grep 2007

 but this didn't work for suse-release-9.3-4. 

   

With 10.0, I had to change the time zone and then back again, for the
update to work.

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Re: [opensuse] dst patch for suse-release-9.3-4

2007-03-11 Thread Charles philip Chan
On 11 Mar 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 /usr/sbin/zdump -v /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Los_Angeles | grep 2007

You need to copy /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Los_Angeles to
/etc/localtime after updating your zone files.

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Re: [opensuse] Kernel Update questions

2007-03-11 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 02:04:13PM -0400, Mike wrote:
 On Saturday 10 March 2007 06:46, Marcus Meissner wrote:
  On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 12:59:59PM +0700, Constant Brouerius van Nidek 
 wrote:
   On Saturday 10 March 2007 06:29, ianseeks wrote:
 On Friday 09 Mar 2007, Adam Jimerson wrote:
 I have a couple of questions about the Kernel 2.6.18.8-0.1 update,
 
  The bug is number 252911.
 
  Ciao, Marcus
 
 Thanks to this bug I have a completely broken system, with no working options 
 in menu.lst  I can only get into the system by booting off the install disk.
 
 The menu.lst that was written out after the update is basically blank, with 
 entries that have no information (no kernel, root, etc.).  This persists even 
 if I go to yast-bootloader and ask it to propose a new configuration.

This is something we have not yet seen this bug do.

Are /boot/vmlinuz and /boot/initrd still there?

 I tried falling back to the install kernel, but have the same problem with a 
 broken menu.lst.  Does anyone know what package is used to compose and write 
 out the menu.lst file?

perl-Bootloader

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Re: [opensuse] Kernel Update questions

2007-03-11 Thread Mike
On Sunday 11 March 2007 16:19, Marcus Meissner wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 02:04:13PM -0400, Mike wrote:
  The menu.lst that was written out after the update is basically blank,
  with entries that have no information (no kernel, root, etc.).  This
  persists even if I go to yast-bootloader and ask it to propose a new
  configuration.

 This is something we have not yet seen this bug do.

 Are /boot/vmlinuz and /boot/initrd still there?

After looking over other forums and people dealing with the bug, I believe my 
particular scenario is because my x86_64 system is using a disk array.  I 
currently have it booting with this manually edited menu.lst:

title openSUSE 10.2
kernel (hd0,4)/vmlinuz-2.6.18.8-0.1-default 
root=/dev/mapper/isw_ddfafhegd_ARRAY_part7
initrd (hd0,4)/initrd-2.6.18.8-0.1-default

If I just take the propose new configuration result I get the following:

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux###
title openSUSE 10.2

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: windows###
title Windows
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
chainloader (hd0,1)+1

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: floppy###
title Floppy
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
chainloader (fd0)+1

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: failsafe###
title Failsafe -- openSUSE 10.2

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: 
2.6.18.8-0.1-default###
title 2.6.18.8-0.1-default
initrd (hd0,4)/initrd-2.6.18.8-0.1-default

Which doesn't work at all.  One thing that is interesting is that the boot 
loader gui comes up with a number of options in the gui that do not get 
written to menu.lst.

Now my next problem is that cpu frequency scaling has stopped working since 
the kernel update.  I don't know if there was supposed to be some kernel 
param set that I have lost because of the bug, or if the new kernel doesn't 
work right on my core 2 duo.



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Re: [opensuse] rug takes more than one hour and a half to install a single package...

2007-03-11 Thread Carlos Lorenzo Matés
Hi.

El Domingo, 11 de Marzo de 2007, Carlos E. R. escribió:
 The Saturday 2007-03-10 at 21:54 +0100, Carlos Lorenzo Matés wrote:
time to change to smart :-)
  
   No, sorry. I'll stay with SuSE provided tools, thankyou. :-)
 
  Is up to you, keep waiting hours, i do my updates in minutes :-)
 
  smart is a suse provided tool, it comes in the standar distribution cd.

 You are right.

 But by simply removing zmd Yast is also quite fast. I'm seriously
 considering it.


Yes, deactivating zmd is one of the first things i do when installing a new 
system. It eats a lot of resouces. I feel more comfortable with smart.




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Re: [opensuse] Kernel Update questions

2007-03-11 Thread ken
On 03/11/2007 04:19 PM somebody named Marcus Meissner wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 02:04:13PM -0400, Mike wrote:
 On Saturday 10 March 2007 06:46, Marcus Meissner wrote:
 
 

 The menu.lst that was written out after the update is basically blank, with 
 entries that have no information (no kernel, root, etc.).  This persists 
 even 
 if I go to yast-bootloader and ask it to propose a new configuration.
 
 This is something we have not yet seen this bug do.
 
 Are /boot/vmlinuz and /boot/initrd still there?
 
 I tried falling back to the install kernel, but have the same problem with a 
 broken menu.lst.  Does anyone know what package is used to compose and write 
 out the menu.lst file?
 
 perl-Bootloader

This would seem to be a good argument for the kernel upgrade to create
sufficient backups so that the previous kernel could be used.  Better
yet would be to put the previous kernel into the grub/lilo menu as a
second boot option.


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Re: [opensuse] Kernel Update questions

2007-03-11 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 05:35:28PM -0400, Mike wrote:
 On Sunday 11 March 2007 16:19, Marcus Meissner wrote:
  On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 02:04:13PM -0400, Mike wrote:
   The menu.lst that was written out after the update is basically blank,
   with entries that have no information (no kernel, root, etc.).  This
   persists even if I go to yast-bootloader and ask it to propose a new
   configuration.
 
  This is something we have not yet seen this bug do.
 
  Are /boot/vmlinuz and /boot/initrd still there?
 
 After looking over other forums and people dealing with the bug, I believe my 
 particular scenario is because my x86_64 system is using a disk array.  I 
 currently have it booting with this manually edited menu.lst:
 
 title openSUSE 10.2
 kernel (hd0,4)/vmlinuz-2.6.18.8-0.1-default 
 root=/dev/mapper/isw_ddfafhegd_ARRAY_part7
 initrd (hd0,4)/initrd-2.6.18.8-0.1-default

Was this actually two lines? or just one, wrapped by your mailer?

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Re: [opensuse] rug takes more than one hour and a half to install a single package...

2007-03-11 Thread Chema
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Carlos Lorenzo Matés escribió:
 Hi.
 
 El Domingo, 11 de Marzo de 2007, Carlos E. R. escribi�:
 The Saturday 2007-03-10 at 21:54 +0100, Carlos Lorenzo Mat�s wrote:
 time to change to smart :-)
 No, sorry. I'll stay with SuSE provided tools, thankyou. :-)
 Is up to you, keep waiting hours, i do my updates in minutes :-)

 smart is a suse provided tool, it comes in the standar distribution cd.
 You are right.

 But by simply removing zmd Yast is also quite fast. I'm seriously
 considering it.
 
 
 Yes, deactivating zmd is one of the first things i do when installing a new 
 system. It eats a lot of resouces. I feel more comfortable with smart.
 
 
 
 
Hi
completely in agreement with you,for now,smart is the best(for me at least).
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Re: [opensuse] Bad RAM support

2007-03-11 Thread Mike McMullin
On Sat, 2007-03-10 at 14:06 +1100, Horst G. Burkhardt III wrote:
 I agree completely with John here.
 
 Linux especially is known to be more sensitive to bad hardware than BSD or 
 Windows or Mac - possibly because tighter tolerances are needed to 
 maintain relative sanity when it comes to the kernel ;-)

  Not an argument but a comment here.  When I upgraded to XP from ME, I
had to downgrade my hardware because XP was less fault tolerant of my
RAM, and DVD/DVD-Burner setups.  10.0, my everyday boot, 10.2, my try it
and see boot, Ubuntu and LinuxXP had not problems what so ever.  Linux-4
Windows -1  :)

 If this were 1981 and a 16K chip of static RAM was the best available and 
 cost about $1200 i'd agree. But RAM really is cheap now, so why risk it? 
 Also, faulty RAM will just slow down your computer and make it more 
 unstable anyway.

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Re: [opensuse] Audio just stopped

2007-03-11 Thread Brett Lyon
On Thursday 08 March 2007, jpff wrote:
  John == John Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  John On Tuesday 06 March 2007, John ffitch wrote:
   I was using my laptop (Suse10.2) and tried switching my microphone on
   in alsamixer -- everything went quiet.  Now I have no sound other that
   the beeps.  aplay says it is playing but silence.  Audacity says it is
   playing and silence.
   I have done the obvious -- nothing is muted in alsamnixer;
   re-configured the sound card; rebooted the machien.  Powered it off,
   waited and restarted -- and still silence.
  
   I was using the sound earlier in the day, and I NEED the sound to
   teach my DSP class.  Any ideas of (a) what happened and more
   importantly (b) how to restore sounds?
  
   Machine is ThinkPadX40
  
   ==John ffitch

  John I'm guessing its an intel sound chipset.   What a flaming
  John piece of crap that High Definition Audio is.

  John Start by yast, ripping out the sound system and putting it
  John back in piece by piece.

 Yes; done that.  reinstalled ALSA, sound card, etc

 Still silence

 ==John ffitch

Did you try  adding yourself to the group 'audio?'   That is how I  resolved a 
problem with similar symptoms a few days ago, right after a big YOU update. 
Add yourself to cdrom and video while you are at it.  
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Re: [opensuse] dst patch for suse-release-9.3-4

2007-03-11 Thread Cristian Rodriguez R.
Simpson, Kenneth escribió:
 Hi - would someone please show me how to update 
 
 suse-release-9.3-4
 
 to the correct timezone? 
 
 Note, I need to patch only the DST problem - we can't afford to update the 
 entire OS at this time.
 

a simple test.

?php

if(function_exists('date_default_timezone_set')) {
date_default_timezone_set('America/Los_Angeles');
} else {
//php  5.1
putenv(TZ=America/Los_Angeles);
}

if(mktime(2, 0, 0, 3, 11, 2007) == mktime(3, 0, 0, 3, 11, 2007)) {
echo You are OK :-) . PHP_EOL;
} else {
echo Press the Panic button now!! ;P . PHP_EOL;
}
?





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[opensuse] opensuseupdate setuid problem

2007-03-11 Thread davidr

The opensuseupdater icon always shows a yellow triangle, hovering over the icon 
reports

error :
helper program returned
setuid operation not permitted
forget to chmod this program?

anyone any idea as to how to fix this?




  

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Re: [opensuse] opensuseupdate setuid problem

2007-03-11 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 06:43:18PM -0400, davidr wrote:
 
 The opensuseupdater icon always shows a yellow triangle, hovering over the 
 icon reports
 
 error :
 helper program returned
 setuid operation not permitted
 forget to chmod this program?
 
 anyone any idea as to how to fix this?

/usr/sbin/zypp-checkpatches-wrapper should be setuid root.

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Re: [opensuse] smbmount failed??

2007-03-11 Thread Felix Miata
On 2007/03/11 00:47 (GMT-0900) John Andersen apparently typed:

 On Sunday 11 March 2007, David Brodbeck wrote:

 Unfortunately it seems cifs isn't quite ready for primetime yet and is
 lacking some functionality that's in smbfs.  

 The only thing it lacks IIRC is the ability to mount a 
 windows 9X share on the Linux machine.
...
 So again, the only thing missing is mounting a win9x
 share on linux. 

Except for the other thing that's missing. One can mount an OS/2 share with
CIFS, but one can't actually use the 10.2 release version of those CIFS
mounts due to CIFS LM timestamp bugs. All files and directories show year
1969 timestamps. SMBFS mounts with recompiled with SMBFS enabled 10.2
kernels have no such trouble.
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Re: [opensuse] Bad RAM support

2007-03-11 Thread Doug McGarrett
On Sunday 11 March 2007 17:46, Mike McMullin wrote:
 On Sat, 2007-03-10 at 14:06 +1100, Horst G. Burkhardt III wrote:
  I agree completely with John here.
/snip/
   Not an argument but a comment here.  When I upgraded to XP from ME, I
 had to downgrade my hardware because XP was less fault tolerant of my
 RAM, and DVD/DVD-Burner setups.  10.0, my everyday boot, 10.2, my try it
 and see boot, Ubuntu and LinuxXP had not problems what so ever.  Linux-4
 Windows -1  :)

/snip/

I Googled LinuxXP.  It looks like all the Windows apps they mention are run 
under WINE, but I'm not sure of that.  Altho I'm retired, and not doing 
engineering anymore, I notice the supported apps do not include AutoCad, 
which the WINE website says crashes the machine if you try to put text on 
your drawing.  So I assume it doesn't really run Windows apps directly.  I am 
curious as to the impression Mike has of this OS, which I had never heard of 
until now, and some more detail as to how it works.  When you say it had not 
problems whatsoever, what did you do with it, and what did you use it for?  
I think many of us here would be interested.  Also, their FAQ says they use 
only GNOME, which always looked pretty ugly to me, and some commentators on 
this list say it bogs down badly if you have a few programs open.  A report 
on your experience in that area would be appreciated.  

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Re: [opensuse] opensuseupdate setuid problem

2007-03-11 Thread davidr

On Sunday 11 Mar 2007, Marcus Meissner wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 06:43:18PM -0400, davidr wrote:
  The opensuseupdater icon always shows a yellow triangle, hovering over
  the icon reports
 
  error :
  helper program returned
  setuid operation not permitted
  forget to chmod this program?
 
  anyone any idea as to how to fix this?

 /usr/sbin/zypp-checkpatches-wrapper should be setuid root.

 Ciao, Marcus

thanks that fixed it


speed of response is very impressive!

 
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Re: [opensuse] opensuseupdate setuid problem

2007-03-11 Thread Joe Morris (NTM)
davidr wrote:
 The opensuseupdater icon always shows a yellow triangle, hovering over the 
 icon reports

 error :
 helper program returned
 setuid operation not permitted
 forget to chmod this program?

 anyone any idea as to how to fix this?
   
At least the error message is very helpful. :-)   You have chosen secure
for your security model instead of easy, which changes the permissions
of /usr/sbin/zypp-checkpatches-wrapper.  You need to add
/usr/sbin/zypp-checkpatches-wrapper  root.root4755 to your
/etc/permissions.local file (make sure you end this line with an enter,
i.e new line).  Then run SuSEconfig.  This makes the fix permanent,
otherwise the perms would be reset by SuSEconfig.

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Re: [opensuse] Trouble booting 10.2

2007-03-11 Thread Mike McMullin
On Fri, 2007-03-09 at 15:14 -0900, John Andersen wrote:
 On Friday 09 March 2007, Mike McMullin wrote:
  Time: tsc clocksource has been installed. and just hangs there.
 
 This sounds like hardware issues.  What is the physical hardware?

  Could be, I ran memtest and it failed the one stick of RAM.  II'll
replace it and re-open the thread if the problem continues.

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Re: [opensuse] Bad RAM support

2007-03-11 Thread Mike McMullin
On Sun, 2007-03-11 at 18:07 -0500, Doug McGarrett wrote:
 On Sunday 11 March 2007 17:46, Mike McMullin wrote:
  On Sat, 2007-03-10 at 14:06 +1100, Horst G. Burkhardt III wrote:
   I agree completely with John here.
 /snip/
Not an argument but a comment here.  When I upgraded to XP from ME, I
  had to downgrade my hardware because XP was less fault tolerant of my
  RAM, and DVD/DVD-Burner setups.  10.0, my everyday boot, 10.2, my try it
  and see boot, Ubuntu and LinuxXP had not problems what so ever.  Linux-4
  Windows -1  :)
 
 /snip/
 
 I Googled LinuxXP.  It looks like all the Windows apps they mention are run 
 under WINE, but I'm not sure of that.  Altho I'm retired, and not doing 
 engineering anymore, I notice the supported apps do not include AutoCad, 
 which the WINE website says crashes the machine if you try to put text on 
 your drawing.  So I assume it doesn't really run Windows apps directly.  I am 
 curious as to the impression Mike has of this OS, which I had never heard of 
 until now, and some more detail as to how it works.  When you say it had not 
 problems whatsoever, what did you do with it, and what did you use it for?  
 I think many of us here would be interested.  Also, their FAQ says they use 
 only GNOME, which always looked pretty ugly to me, and some commentators on 
 this list say it bogs down badly if you have a few programs open.  A report 
 on your experience in that area would be appreciated.  

  It's based on FedoraCore3 and is supposed to be able to use and FC3
app.  It's slick and polished but immature IMO.  At the moment I'm
hammering away trying to get a decent version of HPLIP to install
without breaking the base, after that it'll be getting my web-cam up and
running.  BTW this is not Free Software, you buy a license to run it,
and pay extra for installation support.  No doubt I could add a YUM repo
or two, and may at some point to see if I can get the apps to dl/install
any faster.

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Re: [opensuse] halt / reboot waiting time

2007-03-11 Thread Joe Morris (NTM)
Anders Norrbring wrote:
 I don't think it's a long time, after all, it has to shut down 17 VMs
 before exiting.. ;)  I'm certain it can be solved somehow, I just
 don't see it ATM.. I'll keep looking at it.


How about adding vmware to a Required-Stop line in a proper init script,
i.e. syslog.  This should require vmware to stop before allowing syslog
to stop, and everything that depends on it.  HTH.

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[opensuse] I have a problem with grub.

2007-03-11 Thread Carlos E. R.
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Hi,

I added a new hard disk, and it's giving me problems booting the main 
system.

Grub is installed in the MBR of  /dev/hda - (hd0)

It boots a test partition, /dev/hda9 (hd0,8). An entry in the menu.lst 
file allows me booting my main linux, in /dev/hdd6, with a separate /boot 
partition in /dev/hda6:


/dev/hda9test system (suse 10.2)

/dev/hda6 - /boot   |\
/dev/hdd6 - /   |=  main system (suse 10.2)

This grub is installed with:

grub:
  setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0) (hd0,8)
  quit


That's the current working situation.

What I want to do and doesn't work, is to make the MBR in hda boot instead 
of the test/boot, the main /boot.


I do this:


grub root (hd0,5)
 Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83

grub setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 (hd0) (hd0,5)
 Checking if /boot/grub/stage1 exists... yes
 Checking if /boot/grub/stage2 exists... yes
 Checking if /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 exists... yes
 Running embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0)...  15 sectors are embedded.
succeeded
 Running install --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+15 
p (hd0,5)/boot/grub/stage2 /boot/grub/menu.lst.
.. succeeded
Done.



It claims to succeed. However, when I boot it enters a loop: after the bios 
screen goes off, it goes black, blinks twice, and starts the bios booting 
screen again, never ending. It never displays any error message, or it 
goes so fast I can't see it. I don't think there is any.

I have to boot from a dvd, and reinstall grub booting the test partition 
again. I can not convince grub to use a different /boot partition.


What is wrong?



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Re: [opensuse] Kernel Building Resources Recommendations

2007-03-11 Thread Thomas Hertweck

Randall R Schulz wrote:
 [...]
 
 It did not seem to lead me totally astray. I went with the suggestion of 
 creating an RPM (because I was using one computer to do the build but 
 the result was intended primarily for my friend's computer). This is 
 where things fell down, probably because I don't know enough about how 
 kernel RPMs work, what happens when they're installed. How the source 
 RPM is fabricated (in particular, why I can have more than one kernel 
 but apparently only one set of kernel sources installed at any one 
 time).

A make rpm creates (AFAIK) only a very basic RPM package. If you
really need to build a proper RPM package for your SuSE system, then
I recommend using the SuSE Kernel Source src.rpm and making changes therein.

 If you know of better resources for newbie kernel builders, I'd love to 
 hear about them.

I wrote a kernel howto (actually this project started in 2002) which I
think is well known among German-speaking Linux users - I get quite a
lot of positive feedback. However, since it's written in German it might
not be particularly helpful for you...

 [...some suggestions...]

 I think it's too minimal for practical purposes, especially if you want 
 to transport the new kernel to another system.

True. I thought you only wanted to change your local machine.

 [...]
 When I ran menuconfig I gave the configuration a variant name, but 
 somehow I still didn't get a new build directory.

I think this is something different. A build directory is where you
build the actual object files, modules, etc. and the final kernel image.
In principle, /usr/src/linux-obj (or a subdirectory, respectively) is
such a build directory - when using a build directory, you separate all
the files created during a build from the source tree (the kernel source
tree is always a clean tree). If I understood you correctly, then you
wanted to give your new kernel a unique kernel release (which in general
is a good idea when compiling your own kernel). This would translate
into a new /lib/modules/ subdirectory. Did you mean such a directory? Or
really a build directory?

From the info I've seen so far, it's difficult to say what might be
wrong with your approach and why the vmware script fails on the other
machine. I think, there are several approaches to tackle the problem:
a) build your own complete kernel with USB_DEVICEFS enabled (via make
   rpm etc.)
b) build your own complete kernel via src.rpm (default config adjusted)
c) only build a new usbcore.ko module for the standard SuSE kernel,
   copy it or package it as RPM, and install it on the other machine(s)
d) ...

From my point of view, c) might be the quickest and easiest solution as
it does not require to install a complete new kernel, kernel sources,
etc. on the other machine (remember, if you install a completely new
kernel, you or the RPM package also need to take care of the initrd,
bootloader configuration, etc.). You would only replace a single kernel
module in the SuSE standard installation. However, it seems as if you've
already managed to install and boot a new kernel and it's now only the
vmware part that's going wrong. Correct?

Cheers, Th.



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[opensuse] Problems during boot up on acer aspire 5610

2007-03-11 Thread Low Kian Seong

Dear all,

I have installed opensuse 10.2 on my laptop which is an acer aspire
5610 with the following kernel :

Kernel : 2.6.18.8-0.1-default

05:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
Network Connection (rev 02)
06:01.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (rev 02)

With a lvm based setup for the partitioning

My problem is that during bootup, my laptop has been hanging all
around the place ranging from activating swap devices to activating my
ethernet card. This problem is also not consistent as it sometimes
boots up fine.

So far I have done :

memtest86 on my memory
badblocks on my hdd

both have passed fine.

Can someone please suggest a solution ?

Thank you.
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Re: [opensuse] smbmount failed??

2007-03-11 Thread John Andersen
On Sunday 11 March 2007, Felix Miata wrote:

 One can mount an OS/2 share

Let it die in peace Felix.

   ;-)
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[opensuse] Max filesize on NFS? 4G?

2007-03-11 Thread Linda Walsh

I was just surprised by hitting a 4GB file limit on NFS -- am running
Suse 10.2 on client (currently running SuSE2.6.18.2-34-bigsmp),
and SuSE 9.3 (with vanilla 2.6.20) on server. 


The target file system (xfs) supports large files.  I was running an
xfsdump |bzip2remotefile

I'm surprised to be hit by the small file limit on NFS.  Is there some
specific parameter I need to support large files?

The same command, run locally on the server, runs fine (4GB ok), so
it definitely seems to be a NFS related problem.

Ideas?  Help?

Thanks,
Linda


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Re: [opensuse] Wireless Broadcom BCM4318 (AirForce One 54g) on SUSE10.2 (SOLVED)

2007-03-11 Thread John Andersen
On Sunday 11 March 2007, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:
 Extracted the SP23..exe file using windows. Copied all files to a stick.
 Back to SuSE, copied from the stick into a temp dir. 
 Ran /usr/bin/bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware bcml5.sys. This extracted 
 and copied the needed -fw files to /lib/firmware. 
 Suse10.2 allready had a driver named bcm43xx

But do bear in mind that driver has been reported on this list to be 
FAR more flaky than using ndiswrapper.  

Ndiswrapper has been rock solid on my similar card in my
dell.

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Re: [opensuse] K9copy

2007-03-11 Thread Fred A. Miller
On Sunday 11 March 2007 1:24:02 am Mike wrote:
 On Sunday 11 March 2007 06:55, Fred A. Miller wrote:
a problem with bad sectors on DVDs. I'm not sure, as I just
copied a dual-layer commercial DVD that I want to make an archive
copy from, creating an ISO. K9 barfed on the ISO.
   
Is there any other software that will compress a dual layer to a
single layer DVD as well as K9?

 Have you tried lxdvdrip? I've used it a couple of times and it seems to
 work OK. It's CLI though, but I didn't have a problem. No special
 parameters that weren't in the config file except for language. Easily
 changed to English..

'Doesn't compress a dual layer to a single layer DVD. This is one thing that 
K9 does VERY well.

Fred

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Re: [opensuse] K9copy

2007-03-11 Thread Sunny

On 3/11/07, Fred A. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thursday 08 March 2007 12:07:13 am Sunny wrote:
 On 3/7/07, Fred A. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  K9 is broken..current version. The author claims that it has a
  problem with bad sectors on DVDs. I'm not sure, as I just copied a
  dual-layer commercial DVD that I want to make an archive copy from,
  creating an ISO. K9 barfed on the ISO.
 
  Is there any other software that will compress a dual layer to a single
  layer DVD as well as K9?
 
  Thanks!
 
  Fred

 If you do not need the menu structure, you can try XDVDBackup. There
 is an rpm at packman's site.

No..no such file name, nor does it exist on the Net.

Fred



Sorry, I misled you with a wrong name. The program is indeed
xdvdshrink, but it is part of the package dvdshrink, which you can
find on packman's site.

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Re: [opensuse] smbmount failed??

2007-03-11 Thread Felix Miata
On 2007/03/11 20:32 (GMT-0400) John Andersen apparently typed:

 On Sunday 11 March 2007, Felix Miata wrote:

 One can mount an OS/2 share

 Let it die in peace Felix.

;-)

Can't, because it won't. Next release is in 3rd or 4th beta, probably due
before June.

On the bright side, we've just seen announcement of 3.0.24 and 3.0.25pre1
ports for OS/2 in the last week or two, so maybe the problem has become moot
for those brave enough to replace the antique OS/2 LM with a Samba recent port.
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Re: [opensuse] K9copy

2007-03-11 Thread Fred A. Miller
On Sunday 11 March 2007 10:36:14 pm Sunny wrote:
  No..no such file name, nor does it exist on the Net.
 
  Fred

 Sorry, I misled you with a wrong name. The program is indeed
 xdvdshrink, but it is part of the package dvdshrink, which you can
 find on packman's site.

'Saright...thanks! By the by, K3b is almost version 1.0. I don't know if 
it will compress an image or not.

Fred

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Re: [opensuse] Linux AD server for Windows clients - Was: Win vs Lin info

2007-03-11 Thread John Summerfield
On Thursday 01 March 2007 19:13, John Andersen wrote:
 On Wednesday 28 February 2007, Hans van der Merwe wrote:
  I'm not sure about AD, no-AD? Do I need it?

 I have never found a use for AD or even Windows Domain controllers.
 Certainly never for a network that small.

 Even where they are claimed to be of use (really large installations where
 people want to log into their desktop from any workstation) they
 don't work well enough for anyone to actually DO that.  So everyone
 graduates from the Microsoft course and runs out an defines
 Domain controllers and Active Directory, only to burry themselves
 in a maintenance nightmare that doesn't meet its very reason for being.


John really hasn't any idea of what he's talking about. It works very well for 
us. It sure beats running around our dozen or so computers (we're a small 
shop) applying security and getting them all different, installing software 
manually on  each one, going to each one and going through Windows Update to 
get the results of the latest Patch Tuesday.

But don't trust me either, do your own research and ask people who actually 
use it, not a bunch of Linux geeks.

Of course you're not going to get good unbiased advice here~




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Re: [opensuse] Linux AD server for Windows clients - Was: Win vs Lin info

2007-03-11 Thread John Andersen
On Sunday 11 March 2007, John Summerfield wrote:
 Of course you're not going to get good unbiased advice here~

Apparently not.

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Re: [opensuse-packaging] Re: problems with updating clamav

2007-03-11 Thread Marcus Hüwe
Hi,

On 2007-03-07 21:43:34 +0100, Marcus Meissner wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 07:27:25PM +0100, mesmero wrote:
  The strange thing is, that Smart should do this job for me. I just
  clicked on Upgrade all packages. The result is the known.
  
   claws-mail-2.8.0-0.pm.0 requires libetpan.so.11()(64bit)
   claws-mail-2.8.0-0.pm.0 requires libclamav.so.1()(64bit)
  
  But ok, i hope, this problem will get fixed soonish. Thanks. Next time
  i use Bugzilla. :)
 
This is a packman package. Yesterday i rebuilt claws-mail against the new
clamav. You can find the new packages in the packman repo or in the 
server:mail project (http://software.opensuse.org/server:/mail).

 Where is claws-mail from? It is not in any of our shipping products,
 so it is quite difficult to fix.
 
claws-mail is provided by suse too (it's the successor of sylpheed-claws).


Marcus
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