[opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-announce] openSUSE 10.3 Alpha3 released

2007-04-12 Thread Lenz Grimmer

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Moin Andreas!

Ich hoffe, Ihr hattet ein paar erholsame Osterfeiertage. Wir sind im
Moment bei meinen Eltern in Heidelberg, um heute Lenas ersten Geburtstag
zu feiern.

Andreas Jaeger wrote:

| I'm glad to announce the third public alpha release of openSUSE 10.3.


Was mich daran erinnert: bis wann ist Package Freeze? Wir versuchen,
innerhalb der kommenden zwei Wochen eine neue Version des MySQL
Community Servers zu releasen (5.0.39). Damit werden auch ein paar
security bugs (nichts gravierendes) gefixt. Ist das noch im Zeitplan für
die 10.3, oder kommen wir zu spät?

Bye,
LenZ
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-announce] openSUSE 10.3 Alpha3 released

2007-04-12 Thread Martin Schlander
Den Thursday 12 April 2007 14:43:25 skrev Lenz Grimmer:
 Was mich daran erinnert: bis wann ist Package Freeze? Wir versuchen,
 innerhalb der kommenden zwei Wochen eine neue Version des MySQL
 Community Servers zu releasen (5.0.39). Damit werden auch ein paar
 security bugs (nichts gravierendes) gefixt. Ist das noch im Zeitplan für
 die 10.3, oder kommen wir zu spät?

This list is English language.

And you're not too late. No precise roadmap is ready for 10.3 yet - but 
feature freeze will likely be early August, maybe late July.

With release expected to be late September.
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[opensuse-factory] IPv6

2007-04-12 Thread Hans Witvliet
Does anybody know if its's possible to do torrent on IPv6?

At first glance, it looks like ktorrent and bttrack are v4-only,
eventhough according to the bt-protocol it should be v6-aware...

Hans

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[opensuse] openSUSE wallpapers vote proposal

2007-04-12 Thread Alexey Eremenko

hi all !

It's too bad that openSUSE 10.2 shipped with poor wallpapers, and the
default one was not beautyful.

In the past, SUSE Linux 9.1 and 10.0 shipped with BEAUTYFUL
wallpapers, installed by default ! This is important since this thing
is the first one a user seems on his brand new desktop, and wallpaper
is one of the criterions that make a man happy or unhappy about his
new desktop, and I'm really unhappy due to the sorry state of SUSE
wallpapers recently.

So, to fix the sorry state of 10.2 wallpaper and make sure it doesn't
happens again in 10.3, I propose:

1. automatically package and install, by default, top 10 highest-rated
wallpapers from kde-look.org on each openSUSE release.
2. the default wallpaper, I think should be chosen democratically, by votes.
3. kde-look.org wallpapers can be SUSEfied, by adding a SUSE lizard at
the top-right corner, like we did in 9.1 and 10.0 releases.
4. All previous successfull wallpapers should NOT get dropped, but be
supplied with newer openSUSE releases, such as default 9.1 and 10.0
wallpapers.

What do you think of it ?

..Of course we must filter some off-topic or offensive wallpapers,
prior to voting.

P.S. I vote for NIGHT wallpaper for 10.3: :)
http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/NIGHT?content=25331

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Re: [opensuse] Re: How to install 2.6.20 kernel on opensuse 10

2007-04-12 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 06:52:00AM +0100, Craig Millar wrote:
 On 11/04/07 13:21 -0500, david rankin wrote:
  Great link, Thanks. I haven't compiled the kernel from source before, but 
  if I made it through compiling Xorg, Mesa and drm, there is no reason not 
  to try. The only concern I have is how to make sure I get all of the pieces 
  and modules that the kernel supplied by opensuse includes. Will my .config 
  from the 2.6.13 kernel source I got from yast work with the new kernel 
  source from kernel.org? I just don't want to thrash my system by accident...
 
 Perhaps this will be of assistance?
 http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_suse

Perhaps just use the KOTD we provide in the openSUSE buildservice.

I am using it on 10.2 ;)

Ciao, Marcus
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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE wallpapers vote proposal

2007-04-12 Thread Horst Günther Burkhardt III
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007, Alexey Eremenko wrote:

 It's too bad that openSUSE 10.2 shipped with poor wallpapers, and the
 default one was not beautyful.
Thankfully, I upgraded straight to factory from 10.0 and am using a custom 
wallpaper I made.

 In the past, SUSE Linux 9.1 and 10.0 shipped with BEAUTYFUL
 wallpapers, installed by default ! This is important since this thing
 is the first one a user seems on his brand new desktop, and wallpaper
 is one of the criterions that make a man happy or unhappy about his
 new desktop, and I'm really unhappy due to the sorry state of SUSE
 wallpapers recently.

This I agree with - I was quite fond of my green lizard in SuSE 10.0 :) 
You're right, something MUST be done.
 
 So, to fix the sorry state of 10.2 wallpaper and make sure it doesn't
 happens again in 10.3, I propose:

 1. automatically package and install, by default, top 10 highest-rated
 wallpapers from kde-look.org on each openSUSE release.
And with each alpha - so you have something like 30-40 choices by the 
time you get a release.
Also, maybe some of the wallpapers from the Xfce Art site and the GNOME 
wallpaper sites too - not all of us care for Crystal SVG :)
 2. the default wallpaper, I think should be chosen democratically, by votes.
There's the problem of puppeteering there, but perfectly valid.
 3. kde-look.org wallpapers can be SUSEfied, by adding a SUSE lizard at
 the top-right corner, like we did in 9.1 and 10.0 releases.
AND Xfce-art, GNOME, etc.
 4. All previous successfull wallpapers should NOT get dropped, but be
 supplied with newer openSUSE releases, such as default 9.1 and 10.0
 wallpapers.
YES.
 What do you think of it ?
I think you've hit the nail on the head. But in the best tradition of good 
ideas, it possibly won't fly because some lugnut will try and stop it, 
worried about some inane technicalities and saying it will add to 
distribution size or something...

 ..Of course we must filter some off-topic or offensive wallpapers,
 prior to voting.
Of course. 

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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE wallpapers vote proposal

2007-04-12 Thread M Harris
On Thursday 12 April 2007 01:02, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
 So, to fix the sorry state of 10.2 wallpaper and make sure it doesn't
 happens again in 10.3, I propose:

 1. automatically package and install, by default, top 10 highest-rated
 wallpapers from kde-look.org on each openSUSE release.
 2. the default wallpaper, I think should be chosen democratically, by
 votes. 3. kde-look.org wallpapers can be SUSEfied, by adding a SUSE lizard
 at the top-right corner, like we did in 9.1 and 10.0 releases.
 4. All previous successfull wallpapers should NOT get dropped, but be
 supplied with newer openSUSE releases, such as default 9.1 and 10.0
 wallpapers.

 What do you think of it ?
I have not installed my 10.2 yet... so didn't notice this... but I 
would tend 
to agree that there should be several (maybe 10) really good wallpapers... 
new ones... on each release.  I collect them anyway... from every release of 
suse and from the Mac also.  So, I have plenty... but for first time 
experiences the desktop should really be artistic... and unique with each 
release.

I suspect that the space of wallpapers is better used for app and 
distro 
specific content.  But, maybe Novell should consider a two DVD set though... 
then plenty of room for everything.

How is SLED bundled?...   

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[opensuse] Re: How to install 2.6.20 kernel on opensuse 10

2007-04-12 Thread Craig Millar
On 12/04/07 08:03 +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote:
 Perhaps just use the KOTD we provide in the openSUSE buildservice.
 
 I am using it on 10.2 ;)

Probably of more immediate use to the OP of course. Still, no harm in
learning about these things - it certainly helps to get a better
understanding of the boot process, amongst others. :)

 Ciao, Marcus

Craig
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Re: [opensuse] writing a crontab and don't know where to put it

2007-04-12 Thread dwain
On Wednesday 11 April 2007, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
 dwain wrote:
  Please help me tame this snarling beast so I can update automatically
  f-prot.

 Did you check out kdesu kcron?  As mentioned, you can run it via Run
 Command from a right click on the Desktop, or type in kdesu kcron in a
 terminal window.  Try it, you will like it.  It makes it very easy to
 handle cron without learning 10 different editors. :-)

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 I got the error message kcron command not found.  I looked in software 
management and searched for kcron with no results.  I don't understand.  Now 
what?

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Re: [opensuse] Does openSUSE loses ClearType functionality due to Novell-Microsoft patent deal ?

2007-04-12 Thread riccardo35
On Thu 12 Apr 2007 04:16, M Harris wrote:
 do not end up there...

 - if one wrestles with a pig, both will get dirty . . . the pig will 
enjoy it!


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[opensuse] RE: Ports used for Samba service

2007-04-12 Thread Registration Account
I have set up a samba server all o.k. I cannot even view any workgroup.
This is a result of internal security which I control. I was of the
belief that Samba uses Netbios for transmitting and advertising on the
LAN and have enabled TCP/UDP 137-139 on the required route
192.168.100.0/24 that the workstations are on that I want Samba services
to be available.

As I cannot see the workgroup I have obviously missed some other
dependant Ports to Samba services. Can anyone tell me which Ports are
required to be open. This has nothing to do the the PC firewall which is
correctly displaying 'samba server' on the PC that is running the
process and I have tried turning off all PC firewalls on the PC's which
I want samba services to be available.

If someone can let me know what Ports Samba requires I can correct the
Internal Security issue.

Many Thanks

Scott


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Re: [opensuse] Does openSUSE loses ClearType functionality due to Novell-Microsoft patent deal ?

2007-04-12 Thread M Harris
On Thursday 12 April 2007 01:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  do not end up there...

  - if one wrestles with a pig, both will get dirty . . . the pig will
 enjoy it!
heh,  true enough...

... my grandmother used to say, never try to teach a pig to sing... it 
will 
only frustrate you, and it will piss off the pig.

Thanks for the reminder.






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Re: [opensuse] writing a crontab and don't know where to put it

2007-04-12 Thread M Harris
On Thursday 12 April 2007 00:43, M Harris wrote:
   I got the error message kcron command not found.  I looked in software
  management and searched for kcron with no results.  I don't understand.
   Now what?

 hi dwain,

 ... its in package  kdeadmin3
search for the package in software management

... comes with a very nice handbook... although its intuitive.

(be sure to save the crontab, and be sure that your crond is running, 
or it 
won't work)



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Re: [opensuse] Re: Please make available a 2 DVD set for openSUSE 10.3

2007-04-12 Thread jdd

Can you respond on the bugzilla feature-request to the bad-guys ?
please. link: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=263606


I add this on bugzilla:

I think this debate is not well done. What users want is to have 
openSUSE as dvd's on they desk, not on the servers.


Make a _bootable_ dvd is sometime difficult, so it's good to have an 
iso for this one, but for the others any ftp/makedvd system should be 
good.


So what we need is _not_ new isos, but a way to identify successive 
dvd's content (any number).


There are several system to do so. The simpler (for the user) should 
to have each dvd content to be in a separate folder, but a simple list 
on a file could be enough if better for you: simply identify the files 
as dvd1, dvd2... and any ftp app could dl the good one.


in such a way, even independant dealer could provide dvd sets (as they 
already do for the cd's and the dvd), but in a more standardised way


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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE wallpapers vote proposal

2007-04-12 Thread Carlos F Lange
On Thursday 12 April 2007 00:02, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
 1. automatically package and install, by default, top 10
 highest-rated wallpapers from kde-look.org on each openSUSE release.
 2. the default wallpaper, I think should be chosen democratically, by
 votes. 3. kde-look.org wallpapers can be SUSEfied, by adding a SUSE
 lizard at the top-right corner, like we did in 9.1 and 10.0 releases.
 4. All previous successfull wallpapers should NOT get dropped, but be
 supplied with newer openSUSE releases, such as default 9.1 and 10.0
 wallpapers.

Totally agreed.

Alexey, you are on a roll!
Keep your good ideas coming and I hope the maintainers are paying 
attention.

Carlos FL
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Re: [opensuse] writing a crontab and don't know where to put it

2007-04-12 Thread M Harris
On Thursday 12 April 2007 01:04, M Harris wrote:
  ... its in package  kdeadmin3

 search for the package in software management
Also...

... after you install it, you will find the icon under 
SUSE--System--Service Configuration


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Re: [opensuse] Trouble setting up SAMBA

2007-04-12 Thread G.T.Smith
Kai Ponte wrote:
 On Wednesday 11 April 2007 07:44:09 pm Pueblo Native wrote:
   
 Maybe somebody can help me out with exactly what I need here.

 I have a Windows Computer and a Linux Computer hooked up through a
 router to share a cable modem.

 I want to get them to where they can see each other and share files, is
 there a site that shows step by step how to do this without assuming a
 person knows anything about Samba?
 

 This appears to be a great site:

 http://swik.net/SuSE+samba

 I still have no clue, however, how to get SWAT working.

   
Swat is enabled via the Network services - Network Services option in
YaST,
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Re: [opensuse] Elevator Question

2007-04-12 Thread eshsf
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 03:03:38 +0200 (CEST)
Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 The Wednesday 2007-04-11 at 21:47 +0900, eshsf wrote:
 
   
   I do, but it's not nice enough
   
   The disk is so busy for a long time when copying a half a gig single file 
   that the rest of the tasks are sluggish,
   
   I'm not in a hurry over these operations, I just want to continue working 
   as usual.
  
  How about using a Best effort class of ionice?
  An unprivilege user can set a class data[0-7].
 
 I'll have to try that one. Man pages are so terse that I had no clue that 
 those class data could be.

The io scheduling classes are:
  c1 - Realtime: only root available
  c2 - Best effort : everyone available
  c3 - Idle: only root available

So, if I am not mistaken, the following sorted them in priority order.

[High]---[low]
   RealtimeBest effort Idle
   0 ... 7   0 ... 7   (no class data)


  or if running already then
  'nice -n19 sudo ionice -c3 -p `pidof busytask`'.

Oh, this was wrong. that didn't modify the nice value. :(
Ok, this is it.
sudo bash -c renice +19 -p `pidof busytask`  ionice -c3 -p `pidof busytask`


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Re: [opensuse] Trouble setting up SAMBA

2007-04-12 Thread G.T.Smith
Alexey Eremenko wrote:
 On 4/12/07, Alexey Eremenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So I have configured SWAT's guest account to be =root. I believe
 it should not be too major security problems with this, as it's at my
 Home, behind a firewall.

 besides the / partition is not shared at all. Only data partitions
 are shared.

The default configuration gives a basic Windows 95 style access. The
Samba documentation does tell you how to change this. Samba is not easy
in part because one is trying to emulate one system model on top of a
very different model. The samba Howtos do give some basic configurations
for simple access (just cut and paste).

Samba+SWAT  is not really targetted at the home user, but more for sys
admins looking after mixed Windows and Linux environments. SWAT for the
home user is a case of taking a sledgehammer to a walnut.

I also hope that you have port 901 blocked on the firewall as the above
option effectively gives anyone a complete open house on your linux box.
It is quite possible for someone to redefine samba access with SWAT in
such way that they get can get that access.
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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE wallpapers vote proposal

2007-04-12 Thread Stephan Binner
On Thursday, 12. April 2007 08:02:30 Alexey Eremenko wrote:

 So, to fix the sorry state of 10.2 wallpaper and make sure it doesn't
 happens again in 10.3, I propose:

My proposal would be to take it to the right list: opensuse-artwork

Bye,
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Re: [opensuse] maximum swap used

2007-04-12 Thread Dave Howorth
Mark Goldstein wrote:
 On 4/11/07, Dave Howorth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there a command to discover the maximum swap space used? (since boot,
   or since resetting a counter, for example)
 
 free?

free tells me the amount of swap that is available and the amount that
is currently in use. AFAIK, it doesn't tell me the maximum that has been
used (like a high-water mark). I was hoping to discover some command
that did before I resort to scripting.

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Re: [opensuse] maximum swap used

2007-04-12 Thread Mark Goldstein

On 4/12/07, Dave Howorth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

free tells me the amount of swap that is available and the amount that
is currently in use. AFAIK, it doesn't tell me the maximum that has been
used (like a high-water mark). I was hoping to discover some command
that did before I resort to scripting.


I'm not sure, but free actually prints out part of the /proc/meminfo.
There are a lot more information there, like SwapTotal - SwapFree,
HighTotal, HighFree.

Probably kernel documentation explains exact meaning of these fields,
maybe some of them are what you need.

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Re: [opensuse] Making the Yast package-manager faster

2007-04-12 Thread Cristian Rodriguez R.
Alexey Eremenko escribió:

 Is there any way to accelerate Yast to approach smart/apt-get times ?


Smart is no panacea. it has a large number of problems too.

Speeding up yast/zypp is currenlty be worked on by Duncan and the zypp team.

see http://en.opensuse.org/Libzypp/Refactoring

This changes are supposed to feature in 10.3 though.







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Re: [opensuse] RE: Ports used for Samba service

2007-04-12 Thread John Andersen
On Wednesday 11 April 2007, Registration Account wrote:
 I have set up a samba server all o.k. I cannot even view any workgroup.
 This is a result of internal security which I control. I was of the
 belief that Samba uses Netbios for transmitting and advertising on the
 LAN and have enabled TCP/UDP 137-139 on the required route
 192.168.100.0/24 that the workstations are on that I want Samba services
 to be available.

 As I cannot see the workgroup I have obviously missed some other
 dependant Ports to Samba services. Can anyone tell me which Ports are
 required to be open. This has nothing to do the the PC firewall which is
 correctly displaying 'samba server' on the PC that is running the
 process and I have tried turning off all PC firewalls on the PC's which
 I want samba services to be available.

 If someone can let me know what Ports Samba requires I can correct the
 Internal Security issue.

 Many Thanks

 Scott

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 tcp 137,139
 udp 1024:  137
 udp 137:139
 tcp 137,139
 udp 1024:  137



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Re: [opensuse] Does openSUSE loses ClearType functionality due to Novell-Microsoft patent deal ?

2007-04-12 Thread Glenn Holmer
On Thursday 12 April 2007 00:21, Druid wrote:
 If you ahve nothing to say, just shut it and stay quiet

You quoted 67 lines to say that.  What's wrong with this picture?

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Re: [opensuse] off-list replies

2007-04-12 Thread G.T.Smith
John Summerfield wrote:
 I've had enough of this list, I really do not like off-list replies to my 
 attempts to help people.

 They are bad because
 1. It breaks filtering (the list-id header is present in mail from the list 
 and it's sensible to use it to filter email).
 2. Other people can't see my errors and correct them. I'm not perfect.
 3. Other people can't see corrections to my errors and learn from them.
 4. Off-list replies don't get archived.
 5. It breaks threading. I like email one topic to be grouped into one thread. 
 Since most email clients support this feature, I suspect others value it too.

 I equate off-list with spam, and unless I specifically give you permission to 
 email me, you don't have the right.

 Now, I do make some exceptions. For example, if I make a little joke about 
 the 
 Poms' cricket prowess, and someone wants to send me a good-natured rejoinder, 
 it's probably best off-list.

   
I sympathise, but this may not be entirely the person sending the replys
fault, hitting reply on my copy of Thunderbird will send directly to the
original sender not to the list itself. (I dunno if this case with other
mail clients). A ReplyTo field should ideally be set to the list
address, but this does get not set. (Coming to think about it I seem to
remember TBird having a reply to mail-list option at one time). I find
myself having to reply to all and edit the recipient out. Got caught out
a couple of times early on with this 'feature'.

BTW: As a dejected England fan my only rejoinder would have to be What
prowess  :'(
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Re: [opensuse] off-list replies

2007-04-12 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 11:28 +0100, G.T.Smith wrote:

 I sympathise, but this may not be entirely the person sending the replys
 fault, hitting reply on my copy of Thunderbird will send directly to the
 original sender not to the list itself. (I dunno if this case with other
 mail clients). A ReplyTo field should ideally be set to the list
 address, but this does get not set. (Coming to think about it I seem to
 remember TBird having a reply to mail-list option at one time). I find
 myself having to reply to all and edit the recipient out. Got caught out
 a couple of times early on with this 'feature'.

evolution does the same, so I do the same editing. The list posts
contain:

List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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List-Subscribe:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
List-Unsubscribe:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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But not all mailers know what to do with this. Do any mail readers use
these for reply purposes? If not, they are only using the From: field,
which makes sense. The Cc to the list must be from the To: field in the
message. I guess the list management software would have to put an
envelope around the message to change this behavior.


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Re: [opensuse] off-list replies

2007-04-12 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 12:53 +0200, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
 On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 11:28 +0100, G.T.Smith wrote:
 
  I sympathise, but this may not be entirely the person sending the replys
  fault, hitting reply on my copy of Thunderbird will send directly to the
  original sender not to the list itself. (I dunno if this case with other
  mail clients). A ReplyTo field should ideally be set to the list
  address, but this does get not set. (Coming to think about it I seem to
  remember TBird having a reply to mail-list option at one time). I find
  myself having to reply to all and edit the recipient out. Got caught out
  a couple of times early on with this 'feature'.
 
 evolution does the same, so I do the same editing. The list posts
 contain:
 
 List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 List-Subscribe:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 List-Unsubscribe:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 List-Owner: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

Which evolution supports with the reply_to_list feature using cntr-l
(ell not one).

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Re: [opensuse] RE: Ports used for Samba service

2007-04-12 Thread Joe Morris (NTM)
Registration Account wrote:
 If someone can let me know what Ports Samba requires I can correct the
 Internal Security issue.
   
udp 137, 138 tcp 139 (and if xp) 445

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Re: [opensuse] writing a crontab and don't know where to put it

2007-04-12 Thread Jan Tiggy
dwain schrieb:

  I got the error message kcron command not found.  I looked in software 
 management and searched for kcron with no results.  I don't understand.  Now 
 what?
 
 Dwain

Well dwain, concerning cronjobs; I'll make it for you IMO the most easy
way possible:

wget
http://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/webadmin/webmin-1.340-1.noarch.rpm

rpm -i webmin-1.340-1.noarch.rpm

https://localhost:1/

login: root
password: well you know that one better

Then hit 'System'  'Cronjobs'

Set the cronjobs at your wishes.

Enjoy

Thx
Jan


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Re: [opensuse] off-list replies

2007-04-12 Thread Benji Weber

On 4/12/07, John Summerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've had enough of this list, I really do not like off-list replies to my
attempts to help people.

They are bad because
1. It breaks filtering (the list-id header is present in mail from the list
and it's sensible to use it to filter email).
2. Other people can't see my errors and correct them. I'm not perfect.
3. Other people can't see corrections to my errors and learn from them.
4. Off-list replies don't get archived.
5. It breaks threading. I like email one topic to be grouped into one thread.
Since most email clients support this feature, I suspect others value it too.


Quite.

I frequently accidentally email people off-list due to the reply-to
being not set to the list. Which I expect may be responsible for most
of the off-list emailing. Default reply for many email clients is to
reply off-list.


I equate off-list with spam, and unless I specifically give you permission to
email me, you don't have the right.


This is rediculous.


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Re: [opensuse] off-list replies

2007-04-12 Thread G.T.Smith
Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
 On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 11:28 +0100, G.T.Smith wrote:

   
 I sympathise, but this may not be entirely the person sending the replys
 fault, hitting reply on my copy of Thunderbird will send directly to the
 original sender not to the list itself. (I dunno if this case with other
 mail clients). A ReplyTo field should ideally be set to the list
 address, but this does get not set. (Coming to think about it I seem to
 remember TBird having a reply to mail-list option at one time). I find
 myself having to reply to all and edit the recipient out. Got caught out
 a couple of times early on with this 'feature'.
 

 evolution does the same, so I do the same editing. The list posts
 contain:

 List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 List-Subscribe:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 List-Unsubscribe:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 List-Owner: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 But not all mailers know what to do with this. Do any mail readers use
 these for reply purposes? If not, they are only using the From: field,
 which makes sense. The Cc to the list must be from the To: field in the
 message. I guess the list management software would have to put an
 envelope around the message to change this behavior.


   
According to RFC 822 (4.4.3/4.4.4)  the ReplyTo field is supposed to
override the From field for the purposes of replying to a message.
(Useful if you are sending from account a but want any replies directed
to account b). I think the above Headers are non-standard so I would not
expect all mail clients to support them (in fact my copy of TBird does
not even report them) but I am not certain... there is a RFC
containing a description of non-standard headers not included in the
standard header RFCs, cant remember number at moment...
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[opensuse] OT: Price speed of internet outside US

2007-04-12 Thread ken

What do people outside the US pay for their internet connection and

how fast is the connection?


If you have links to this info understandable by English/German reader,
that would be appreciated also.


tnx++

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Re: [opensuse] Trouble setting up SAMBA

2007-04-12 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
 OK, I'm running SWAT now, but I get lost in it !

Maybe try reading the [excellent] documentation?

http://us4.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/

 Its so-called basic-mode has about 100 parameters to configure and
 it's advanced mode has 1000 parameters to configure 

Of course it does.

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Re: [opensuse] off-list replies

2007-04-12 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
 I sympathise, but this may not be entirely the person sending the replys
 fault, hitting reply on my copy of Thunderbird will send directly to the
 original sender not to the list itself. (I dunno if this case with other
 mail clients). A ReplyTo field should ideally be set to the list
 address, but this does get not set. (Coming to think about it I seem to
 remember TBird having a reply to mail-list option at one time). 

This comes about about once a year on almost every list I am on [the
debate about Reply-To headers];  it is really annoying.  The *ONLY*
relevant person/people to discuss this with is the list maintainers.
Look up the maintainers address(es) and bother them.

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Re: [opensuse] Putting /boot on a pendrive...

2007-04-12 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 23:19:50 -0400
Ciro Iriarte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Is it possible, yes if you can boot from a pen drive.
  I would certainly not do that..
  first, on a hard drive, the boot sector contains a physical address of
  the stage1 boot code. The boot process then loads stage1. Stage1 then
  loads the specific stage1 for the file system (eg. e2fs_stage1_5) which
  then loads /boot/grub/stage2. stage2 then reads the menu.lst (or
  grub.conf) and presents the boot menu etc. Since pendrives are normally
  FAT devices, the boot should work, but I would not recommend it. I
  think you are better off simply setting up a small /boot partition. You
  can easily back that up to a pen drive and you can easily boot a
  rescue CD.
 
 
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 Hi, why wouldn't you use it?, i barely poweroff that pc, so i wont
 really stress the pen drive And the last time i checked, grub
 didn't support /boot on raid5, that's why i would like to avoid
 installing on the HDD. The problem, i think, would be to mount the
 pendrive on /boot at the installation stage...
Why not try it on an existing system. Mount the Pen Drive, run YaST to
install Grub. Make sure that system can boot from a pen drive. Then
boot the system. I'm sure it will work, but the boot will be much
slower. I can't think of a reason it won't work. 
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Re: [opensuse] OT: Price speed of internet outside US

2007-04-12 Thread James Knott
ken wrote:
 What do people outside the US pay for their internet connection and

 how fast is the connection?


 If you have links to this info understandable by English/German reader,
 that would be appreciated also.


 tnx++

   
I pay about $45 (CDN) for cable modem access.  Bandwidth is  6 Mb down
and 800K up.  Works very well and I have a static host name, so even if
DHCP changes my IP address, I can always find my way home from elsewhere.


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Re: [opensuse] kmail gone screwy

2007-04-12 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On Wednesday 11 April 2007 11:58 pm, dwain wrote:
 If you have a Gmail account, you probably realize by now that your email
 client has stopped delivering email to you.  I have been having trouble
 all afternoon with Kmail and Thunderbird not bringing down the mail.  I
 went to the google groups and I saw a post that Outlook is having the
 same problem.

I had the same problem. It was the first time in about 5 months using the 
Gmail POP3 access. Later at night it started working again.  
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Re: [opensuse] OT: Price speed of internet outside US

2007-04-12 Thread riccardo35
On Thu 12 Apr 2007 11:25, ken wrote:
 What do people outside the US pay for their internet connection and
 how fast is the connection?

Greece : OTEnet : ADSL 768/192 Kbps - Euro 14.50 per Month



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Re: [opensuse] Trouble setting up SAMBA

2007-04-12 Thread Alexey Eremenko

Well, it is available offline too (install samba-doc package) at link:
/usr/share/doc/packages/samba/htmldocs/Samba3-HOWTO/index.html

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Re: [opensuse] off-list replies

2007-04-12 Thread Sandy Drobic
Benji Weber wrote:
 On 4/12/07, John Summerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've had enough of this list, I really do not like off-list replies to my
 attempts to help people.

 They are bad because
 1. It breaks filtering (the list-id header is present in mail from the
 list
 and it's sensible to use it to filter email).
 2. Other people can't see my errors and correct them. I'm not perfect.
 3. Other people can't see corrections to my errors and learn from them.
 4. Off-list replies don't get archived.
 5. It breaks threading. I like email one topic to be grouped into one
 thread.
 Since most email clients support this feature, I suspect others value
 it too.
 
 Quite.
 
 I frequently accidentally email people off-list due to the reply-to
 being not set to the list. Which I expect may be responsible for most
 of the off-list emailing. Default reply for many email clients is to
 reply off-list.

I set a reply-to header to the list, so that the default for a reply is
directed to the list.
My server only accepts mails to the list address from the mailinglist server.
If someone wants to send a private mail to me the contact address is shown
in my signature.

 I equate off-list with spam, and unless I specifically give you
 permission to
 email me, you don't have the right.
 
 This is rediculous.

Why? Aside from the annoying spam to the list addresses (spammers like web
archives!) the purpuse of a support mailinglist is to help each other and
have the archive available as a research base. Private replies defeat this
purpose.

For these reasons I do not understand why you think it is ridiculous.

Sometimes I get private replies because the requested logs or
configuration files contain private data, but otherwise I see no reason
for private replies. Being lazy on your part does not constitute a good
reason for private replies.

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Re: [opensuse] kmail gone screwy

2007-04-12 Thread riccardo35
On Thu 12 Apr 2007 11:46, Jorge Fábregas wrote:
 It was the first time in about 5 months using the
 Gmail POP3 access. Later at night it started working again

 from time-to-time have experienced interruptions in Gmail POP3 access - 
during such periods, Web access has worked OK


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Re: [opensuse] OT: Price speed of internet outside US

2007-04-12 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Thursday 2007-04-12 at 07:25 -0400, ken wrote:

 What do people outside the US pay for their internet connection and

Spain, Telefónica: 39.9 Eur/month plus 16% tax, at 1Mbit/.3Mbit. ADSL. 
Includes free phone calls to the whole country as bonus (here even urban, 
local calls are metered, so the bonus is interesting).

 If you have links to this info understandable by English/German reader,
 that would be appreciated also.


I know there are links comparing offers, let me see... one:

http://www.adslzone.net/comparativa.html

In Spanish, of course: local info is in local language. And not up to 
date.

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Re: [opensuse] OT: Price speed of internet outside US

2007-04-12 Thread Andrew Senyshyn

Hi :)

fun question.
Location: Lviv, Ukraine.
for unlimited 256kbps I pay about 19$

unfortunately it's impossible to read about my provider prices in 
English or German.


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ken wrote:

What do people outside the US pay for their internet connection and

how fast is the connection?


If you have links to this info understandable by English/German reader,
that would be appreciated also.


tnx++


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Re: [opensuse] OT: Price speed of internet outside US

2007-04-12 Thread Alexey Eremenko

In Israel, I pay about 25$ for 1.5 mbps downstream/128 kbps upstream
bandwidth. (ADSL)


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Re: [opensuse] OT: Price speed of internet outside US

2007-04-12 Thread Jan Karjalainen

Sweden, 24 Mbit down - 1 Mbit up, 349 SEK / month = 40 euros / month.

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Re: [opensuse] off-list replies

2007-04-12 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Thursday 2007-04-12 at 12:23 +0100, G.T.Smith wrote:

 List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 List-Subscribe:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 List-Unsubscribe:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 List-Owner: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 According to RFC 822 (4.4.3/4.4.4)  the ReplyTo field is supposed to
 override the From field for the purposes of replying to a message.
 (Useful if you are sending from account a but want any replies directed
 to account b). I think the above Headers are non-standard 

AFAIK, non standard headers are of the form X-something. 

 so I would not
 expect all mail clients to support them (in fact my copy of TBird does
 not even report them) 

Yes, it does, if you display all headers. However, there are so many 
that they overflow the window, and thunderbird is so dumb as to not put a 
slide rule so that you can browse down and right: thus you can not see all 
of them.

Use view message source instead.

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Re: [opensuse] maximum swap used

2007-04-12 Thread Dave Howorth
Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
 Is there a command to discover the maximum swap space used? (since boot,
   or since resetting a counter, for example)
 free?
 free tells me the amount of swap that is available and the amount that
 is currently in use. AFAIK, it doesn't tell me the maximum that has been
 used (like a high-water mark). I was hoping to discover some command
 that did before I resort to scripting.
 
 To track performance use SNMP + an NMS(1) and/or sar (2).
 
 (1) http://www.opennms.org
 (2) man sar

sar looks like what I need. Thanks Adam.

The man page seems to indicate that I need to run sar, or one of its
relatives, in the background to produce a stats file that I can then
analyse.

sar is on my machines but there's nothing in /var/log/sa/

I haven't found any indications yet on the best way to set up the
collection process. Is there a YaST feature to do this, for example? Or
a HOW-TO?

Thanks again,
Dave
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Re: [opensuse] off-list replies

2007-04-12 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Thursday 2007-04-12 at 13:54 +0200, Sandy Drobic wrote:

 I set a reply-to header to the list, so that the default for a reply is
 directed to the list.

And I have procmail set to overwrite it using formail, so it is lost :-p

However, I set it to the list, so that I can use Pine easily.

  I equate off-list with spam, and unless I specifically give you
  permission to
  email me, you don't have the right.
  
  This is rediculous.
 
 Why? Aside from the annoying spam to the list addresses (spammers like web
 archives!) the purpuse of a support mailinglist is to help each other and
 have the archive available as a research base. Private replies defeat this
 purpose.
 
 For these reasons I do not understand why you think it is ridiculous.

He thinks it is ridiculous to consider private emails as spam, I 
understand. It may be a nuisance, but not that much. My filters are clever 
enough to separate list replies, CCs, and directs.

 Sometimes I get private replies because the requested logs or
 configuration files contain private data, but otherwise I see no reason
 for private replies. Being lazy on your part does not constitute a good
 reason for private replies.

Most of them are simply mistakes. The fact is that many mail clients are 
not list aware and friendly - not even Pine - thus people may get confused 
at first and email direct by accident. Then, they revert to reply to all, 
which is another nuisance, but not a big one.


SuSE version of thunderbird contains a hidden setting to modify reply 
all behaviour so that it sends to the list instead. I forgot how I 
activated it, though.

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Re: [opensuse] OT: Price speed of internet outside US

2007-04-12 Thread Jose Thadeu Cavalcante
On Thursday 12 April 2007, ken wrote:
 What do people outside the US pay for their internet connection and

 how fast is the connection?


 If you have links to this info understandable by English/German reader,
 that would be appreciated also.


 tnx++

In Brazil, my connection is 300 kbps and I pay near US$ 30 (R$ 62).
Thadeu

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Re: [opensuse] maximum swap used

2007-04-12 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
  free tells me the amount of swap that is available and the amount that
  is currently in use. AFAIK, it doesn't tell me the maximum that has been
  used (like a high-water mark). I was hoping to discover some command
  that did before I resort to scripting.
  To track performance use SNMP + an NMS(1) and/or sar (2).
  (1) http://www.opennms.org
  (2) man sar
 sar looks like what I need. Thanks Adam.
 The man page seems to indicate that I need to run sar, or one of its
 relatives, in the background to produce a stats file that I can then
 analyse.
 sar is on my machines but there's nothing in /var/log/sa/
 I haven't found any indications yet on the best way to set up the
 collection process. Is there a YaST feature to do this, for example? Or
 a HOW-TO?

/usr/sbin/rcsysstat start 

chkconfig sysstat on

Sar has been around since dirt, there are lots of docs floating around.
Start in file:/usr/share/doc/packages/sysstat/

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Re: [opensuse] OT: Price speed of internet outside US

2007-04-12 Thread Per Qvindesland
Well here in South Africa I have a 512KB Adsl line do it only gives me
about 256 KB and with a 3GB Cap which I pay Rand 1400 which is USD
195.00, and yeas it sucks

Kind regards
Per Qvindesland

On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 09:38 -0300, Jose Thadeu Cavalcante wrote:
 On Thursday 12 April 2007, ken wrote:
  What do people outside the US pay for their internet connection and
 
  how fast is the connection?
 
 
  If you have links to this info understandable by English/German reader,
  that would be appreciated also.
 
 
  tnx++
 
 In Brazil, my connection is 300 kbps and I pay near US$ 30 (R$ 62).
 Thadeu
 


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Re: [opensuse] off-list replies

2007-04-12 Thread Sandy Drobic
Carlos E. R. wrote:

 The Thursday 2007-04-12 at 13:54 +0200, Sandy Drobic wrote:
 
 I set a reply-to header to the list, so that the default for a reply is
 directed to the list.
 
 And I have procmail set to overwrite it using formail, so it is lost :-p
 
 However, I set it to the list, so that I can use Pine easily.

Whatever, as long as it works. (^-°)

 I equate off-list with spam, and unless I specifically give you
 permission to
 email me, you don't have the right.
 This is rediculous.
 Why? Aside from the annoying spam to the list addresses (spammers like web
 archives!) the purpuse of a support mailinglist is to help each other and
 have the archive available as a research base. Private replies defeat this
 purpose.
 
 For these reasons I do not understand why you think it is ridiculous.
 
 He thinks it is ridiculous to consider private emails as spam, I 
 understand. It may be a nuisance, but not that much. My filters are clever 
 enough to separate list replies, CCs, and directs.

I don't need filters because my server is rejecting these Mails hard. May
the lazy guy wonder why he is getting these bounces.

 Sometimes I get private replies because the requested logs or
 configuration files contain private data, but otherwise I see no reason
 for private replies. Being lazy on your part does not constitute a good
 reason for private replies.
 
 Most of them are simply mistakes. The fact is that many mail clients are 
 not list aware and friendly - not even Pine - thus people may get confused 
 at first and email direct by accident. Then, they revert to reply to all, 
 which is another nuisance, but not a big one.
 
 SuSE version of thunderbird contains a hidden setting to modify reply 
 all behaviour so that it sends to the list instead. I forgot how I 
 activated it, though.

For a long time I used reply-all in Thunderbird and edited the
recipients, then I discovered a plugin for List Reply, so I only have to
remember to click on Reply List.

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Re: [opensuse] OT: Price speed of internet outside US

2007-04-12 Thread Clayton

What do people outside the US pay for their internet connection and

how fast is the connection?


If you have links to this info understandable by English/German reader,
that would be appreciated also.


In the Netherlands I had Cable 12.500 Mbit down, 1050 Kbit up for 80
Euro/month.  You can also get ADSL2 with speeds up to 20 Mbit down and
still (last I checked) 1050 kbit up.  The best I've seen in the
Netherlands is OnsetNuenen which offers 100Mbit up and down for 20
Euro per month http://www.onsnetnuenen.nl/index.php?item=3289  A
friend of mine has it and he wastes no time letting me know how fast
his connection is :-P

Where I'm at in Germany now, I have ADSL2 at 16Mit down, and 1 Mbit up
for 50 Euro per month.

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Re: [opensuse] OT: Price speed of internet outside US

2007-04-12 Thread Jan Tiggy
 What do people outside the US pay for their internet connection

Germany: 16MBit down, 1Mbit up, unlimitet traffic, dynamic IP, changing
every 24h, fast-path, non customer restricted smtp-relay, webspace 50mb
with unrestricted traffic but only few rudimentary tools, unrestricted
VOIP connections Europe wide. Fix price: 39 EUR /month

For that price I'm just missing either a static IP or a root server
included. A faster upload rate, something like 4MBit would be kinda nice
too ;-)

Thx
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Re: [opensuse] off-list replies

2007-04-12 Thread G.T.Smith
Carlos E. R. wrote:



  According to RFC 822 (4.4.3/4.4.4)  the ReplyTo field is supposed to
  override the From field for the purposes of replying to a message.
  (Useful if you are sending from account a but want any replies directed
  to account b). I think the above Headers are non-standard

 AFAIK, non standard headers are of the form X-something.

To further confuse things these are really the more standard
non-standard headers, :-)  I refer you to RFC 2076 

  so I would not
  expect all mail clients to support them (in fact my copy of TBird does
  not even report them)

 Yes, it does, if you display all headers. However, there are so many
 that they overflow the window, and thunderbird is so dumb as to not put a
 slide rule so that you can browse down and right: thus you can not see
 all
 of them.

 Use view message source instead.

Thanks for this

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Re: [opensuse] OT: Price speed of internet outside US

2007-04-12 Thread Sandy Drobic
Clayton wrote:
 What do people outside the US pay for their internet connection and

 how fast is the connection?


 If you have links to this info understandable by English/German reader,
 that would be appreciated also.
 
 In the Netherlands I had Cable 12.500 Mbit down, 1050 Kbit up for 80
 Euro/month.  You can also get ADSL2 with speeds up to 20 Mbit down and
 still (last I checked) 1050 kbit up.  The best I've seen in the
 Netherlands is OnsetNuenen which offers 100Mbit up and down for 20
 Euro per month http://www.onsnetnuenen.nl/index.php?item=3289  A
 friend of mine has it and he wastes no time letting me know how fast
 his connection is :-P
 
 Where I'm at in Germany now, I have ADSL2 at 16Mit down, and 1 Mbit up
 for 50 Euro per month.

Just for variety: Here in Germany I am paying 108 Euro/month for
2MBit/1MBit, though this is a business line, in other words, a static
connection with my own subnet (includes telephone flat rate as well).

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Re: [opensuse] TV tuners and alikes.

2007-04-12 Thread Jose

Dave Crouse wrote:

http://usalug.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9184
I wrote that awhile back..

Mines a Winfast 2000xp
Works fine with Suse and Arch Linux both.

Tutorial I wrote for ArchLinux is here:
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Tvcard

Some useful info:

Below is a list of cards and their respective numbers

0 - AutoDetect
1 - MIRO PCTV
2 - Hauppauge old
3 - ST
4 - Intel
5 - Diamond DTV2000
6 - AVerMedia TVPhone
7 - MATRIX-Vision MV-Delta
8 - Fly Video II
9 - TurboTV
10 - Hauppauge new (bt878)
11 - MIRO PCTV pro
12 - ADS Technologies Channel Surfer TV
13 - AVerMedia TVCapture 98
14 - Aimslab VHX
15 - Zoltrix TV-Max
16 - Pixelview PlayTV (bt878)
17 - Leadtek WinView 601
18 - AVEC Intercapture
19 - LifeView FlyKit w/o Tuner
20 - CEI Raffles Card
21 - Lucky Star Image World ConferenceTV
22 - Phoebe Tv Master + FM
23 - Modular Technology MM205 PCTV, bt878
24 - Askey/Typhoon/Anubis Magic TView CPH051/061 (bt878)
25 - Terratec/Vobis TV-Boostar
26 - Newer Hauppauge WinCam (bt878)
27 - MAXI TV Video PCI2
28 - Terratec TerraTV+
29 - Imagenation PXC200
30 - FlyVideo 98
31 - iProTV
32 - Intel Create and Share PCI
33 - Terratec TerraTValue
34 - Leadtek WinFast 2000
35 - Chronos Video Shuttle II
36 - Typhoon TView TV/FM Tuner
37 - PixelView PlayTV pro
38 - TView99 CPH063
39 - Pinnacle PCTV Rave
40 - STB2
41 - AVerMedia TVPhone 98
42 - ProVideo PV951
43 - Little OnAir TV
44 - Sigma TVII-FM
45 - MATRIX-Vision MV-Delta 2
46 - Zoltrix Genie TV
47 - Terratec TV/Radio+


Below is a list of Tuners and their respective numbers.

tuner=n type of tuner chip
--

tuner=0 Temic PAL (4002 FH5)
tuner=1 Philips PAL_I (FI1246 and compatibles)
tuner=2 Philips NTSC (FI1236,FM1236 and compatibles)
tuner=3 Philips (SECAM+PAL_BG) (FI1216MF, FM1216MF, FR1216MF)
tuner=4 NoTuner
tuner=5 Philips PAL_BG (FI1216 and compatibles)
tuner=6 Temic NTSC (4032 FY5)
tuner=7 Temic PAL_I (4062 FY5)
tuner=8 Temic NTSC (4036 FY5)
tuner=9 Alps HSBH1
tuner=10 Alps TSBE1
tuner=11 Alps TSBB5
tuner=12 Alps TSBE5
tuner=13 Alps TSBC5
tuner=14 Temic PAL_BG (4006FH5)
tuner=15 Alps TSCH6
tuner=16 Temic PAL_DK (4016 FY5)
tuner=17 Philips NTSC_M (MK2)
tuner=18 Temic PAL_I (4066 FY5)
tuner=19 Temic PAL* auto (4006 FN5)
tuner=20 Temic PAL_BG (4009 FR5) or PAL_I (4069 FR5)
tuner=21 Temic NTSC (4039 FR5)
tuner=22 Temic PAL/SECAM multi (4046 FM5)
tuner=23 Philips PAL_DK (FI1256 and compatibles)
tuner=24 Philips PAL/SECAM multi (FQ1216ME)
tuner=25 LG PAL_I+FM (TAPC-I001D)
tuner=26 LG PAL_I (TAPC-I701D)
tuner=27 LG NTSC+FM (TPI8NSR01F)
tuner=28 LG PAL_BG+FM (TPI8PSB01D)
tuner=29 LG PAL_BG (TPI8PSB11D)
tuner=30 Temic PAL* auto + FM (4009 FN5)
tuner=31 SHARP NTSC_JP (2U5JF5540)
tuner=32 Samsung PAL TCPM9091PD27
tuner=33 MT20xx universal
tuner=34 Temic PAL_BG (4106 FH5)
tuner=35 Temic PAL_DK/SECAM_L (4012 FY5)
tuner=36 Temic NTSC (4136 FY5)
tuner=37 LG PAL (newer TAPC series)
tuner=38 Philips PAL/SECAM multi (FM1216ME MK3)
tuner=39 LG NTSC (newer TAPC series)
tuner=40 HITACHI V7-J180AT
tuner=41 Philips PAL_MK (FI1216 MK)
tuner=42 Philips 1236D ATSC/NTSC
tuner=43 Philips NTSC MK3 (FM1236MK3 or FM1236/F)
tuner=44 Philips 4 in 1 (ATI TV Wonder Pro/Conexant)
tuner=45 Microtune 4049 FM5
Some useful links perhaps:

http://tldp.org/HOWTO/BTTV/modprobe.html

http://www.linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Leadtek_WinFast_2000

http://linuxlabs.biz/articles/tvcard.html


Hope that helps ;)

Crouse






On 4/11/07, Jose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Gents and Ladies,

I am trying to build a multimedia station out of an Compaq EVO,  I've
been looking for video tuner and video card PCI (no AGP slots on the
hardware CPU), and with some many options on the market I am lost, there
is some many cards out there, with ATI chips on board, memory options. I
am looking for a TV tuner compatible with suse 10.2, and another one
with video output for TV (main goal is to start as movie player and then
upgrade the system to work with mythtv), I have a older ATI card, I
wanted to use, but without a AGP slot, I am forced to buy another one, I
was looking some cvards that even come with the remote control, but the
vendors don't know anything about Linux compatibility.

If someone could send me a link to read or any comments I would greatly
appreciate!!

Thanks in advance for you help

Regards,

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Hi Crouse,

Thanks a lot, I would be studying the pages you sent, I would have to 
double check what do they have here in Canada at the local shops.


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Re: [opensuse] Opensuse - a MS patent observer?

2007-04-12 Thread Peter Van Lone

On 4/12/07, Druid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, I know.  That was my point.

You dont have a point.


no, druid ... it is you that have no point


No need for cheap talking and random off-topic thoughts of yourself.
Nobody is interested


please do not pretend to speak for me


I dont need a lesson about linux. I have no doubts that if I was
actually needing one, it wouldnt be you.


I do not necessarily agree with everything that M. Harris has to say.
I think his views are too extreme, and that he doesn't want to accept,
that there are good people and good tools that have not (yet?) caught
the FOSS religion.

But what he say, is said with intelligence and sometimes wit. You, on
the other hand, are a fool -- at least by the example of your words.


you dont have anything to say, just dont say it, there is no point in
sending lots of emails with comments about ms novell deal that is not
the topic of this thread, and explaining the world why you would solve
and handle the situation.

You are not in charge and we dont care about how it should be done,



Please, again, never attempt to include ME in YOUR we ...


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Re: [opensuse] maximum swap used

2007-04-12 Thread Dave Howorth
Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
 /usr/sbin/rcsysstat start 
 chkconfig sysstat on

Thanks for those. You saved me time.

 Sar has been around since dirt, there are lots of docs floating around.

I remember being vaguely aware of it a long time ago. I was surprised to
find that neither sar nor sysstat turn up in the SuSE help center
(including the admin manual) and don't appear in YaST's run-level editor
(except when you change to Expert mode sysstat miraculously appears)

 Start in file:/usr/share/doc/packages/sysstat/

There's not much there but there is a link to the sysstat homepage so
that's all I need :)

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[opensuse] HT://dig in 10.1

2007-04-12 Thread Tim Nicholson
At some stage, and I'm not sure when my search engine fell over because 
htdig would no longer scan from a start url of the form:-


http://myserver.mydomain:80/

although it was quite happy without the port number:-

http://myserver.mydomain/

I guess some update somewhere broke something. Has anyone else come 
across this one?

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Re: [opensuse] Opensuse - a MS patent observer?

2007-04-12 Thread Juergen Weigert
On Apr 12, 07 08:00:11 -0500, Peter Van Lone wrote:
 On 4/12/07, Druid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Yes, I know.  That was my point.
 
 You dont have a point.
 
 no, druid ... it is you that have no point
 
 No need for cheap talking and random off-topic thoughts of yourself.
 Nobody is interested
 
 please do not pretend to speak for me
 
 I dont need a lesson about linux. I have no doubts that if I was
 actually needing one, it wouldnt be you.

Looks like there is still more fuel in this fanciful discussion.
I humbly suggest to continue on opensuse-flamewar.

cheers,
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Re: [opensuse] OT: Price speed of internet outside US

2007-04-12 Thread Hans du Plooy
On Thu, April 12, 2007 13:42, Per Qvindesland wrote:
 Well here in South Africa I have a 512KB Adsl line do it only gives me
 about 256 KB and with a 3GB Cap which I pay Rand 1400 which is USD
 195.00, and yeas it sucks

Who are you with?  They're milking you - you can get uncapped for that
kind of money.

Hans

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Re: [opensuse] OT: Price speed of internet outside US

2007-04-12 Thread Hans du Plooy
On Thu, April 12, 2007 14:26, Hans du Plooy wrote:
 On Thu, April 12, 2007 13:42, Per Qvindesland wrote:
 Well here in South Africa I have a 512KB Adsl line do it only gives me
 about 256 KB and with a 3GB Cap which I pay Rand 1400 which is USD
 195.00, and yeas it sucks

 Who are you with?  They're milking you - you can get uncapped for that
 kind of money.

http://www.telkomsa.net/ - click Our Products - ADSL - Pricing

512k line is R362.  Add the R70 odd for phone rental that gives you R432.

Then look at: http://www.saol.com/uadsl.asp

If you're only getting 256k on your line in any way you can go for the
384k 50:1 option at R975, that will give you a total of R1407

Hans

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Re: [opensuse] Does openSUSE loses ClearType functionality due to Novell-Microsoft patent deal ?

2007-04-12 Thread Druid

On 4/12/07, Glenn Holmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thursday 12 April 2007 00:21, Druid wrote:
 If you ahve nothing to say, just shut it and stay quiet

You quoted 67 lines to say that.  What's wrong with this picture?



Whats wrong with this picture ios you not understanding that if you
dont have any reason to post, you should not post
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Re: [opensuse] maximum swap used

2007-04-12 Thread Alexey Eremenko

What is the theoretical maximum of swap in x86 architecture ? 64GiB due to PAE ?

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Re: [opensuse] Does openSUSE loses ClearType functionality due to Novell-Microsoft patent deal ?

2007-04-12 Thread Druid


... my grandmother used to say, never try to teach a pig to sing... it 
will
only frustrate you, and it will piss off the pig.

Thanks for the reminder.



Now that he remided you, would you stop sending the offtopic emails on
the thread, which is a thing you have been doing from the beginning.

Maybe contonue your old grandma sayings in private email?

It would be so nice, grandma would be proud

Marcio
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[opensuse] suddenly slow

2007-04-12 Thread Carl
whats up this list seems to have dropped to zero

I know it was not myrealbox because until yesterdays changeover to Messaging 
Archeticts it was working fine.

CWSIV

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Re: [opensuse] OT: Price speed of internet outside US

2007-04-12 Thread Matthias Titeux
Le Jeudi 12 Avril 2007 13:25, ken a écrit :
 What do people outside the US pay for their internet connection and

 how fast is the connection?


 If you have links to this info understandable by English/German reader,
 that would be appreciated also.


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Hi,

Here in France I have got a 22,4 Mbit/s download and 1Mbit/s upload. Fixed IP. 
Uncapped. The offer also include VoIP phone and TV.

For 30 euros per month.

Cheers.


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Re: [opensuse] off-list replies

2007-04-12 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 13:54 +0200, Sandy Drobic wrote:

 I set a reply-to header to the list, so that the default for a reply is
 directed to the list.

Where do you set the header?  Is this is a TBird thing? Or a procmail or
some other filter on incomming mail?

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Re: [opensuse] off-list replies

2007-04-12 Thread Jos van Kan
Carlos E. R. wrote:
(snip: in Reply To: TB allegedly does not display all headers)
 
 Yes, it does, if you display all headers. However, there are so many
 that they overflow the window, and thunderbird is so dumb as to not put a
 slide rule so that you can browse down and right: thus you can not see all
 of them.

For every dumb missing feature of TB there is a plugin. There is a reply to
list plugin,  there is a redirect plugin and lo and behold, there is also
header scroll extension plugin. :-)

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Re: [opensuse] kmail gone screwy

2007-04-12 Thread James Watkins
On Thursday 12 April 2007 04:58, dwain wrote:
 If you have a Gmail account, you probably realize by now that your email
 client has stopped delivering email to you.  I have been having trouble
 all afternoon with Kmail and Thunderbird not bringing down the mail.  I
 went to the google groups and I saw a post that Outlook is having the
 same problem.

No disruption here (Gmail POP3 on Kmail). Have you changed your password 
recently? I have found that the POP3 service seems to go missing for a few 
hours after updating my password.

James.
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Re: [opensuse] OT: Price speed of internet outside US

2007-04-12 Thread Jos van Kan
Clayton wrote:
 What do people outside the US pay for their internet connection and

 how fast is the connection?

(snip)

 The best I've seen in the
 Netherlands is OnsetNuenen which offers 100Mbit up and down for 20
 Euro per month http://www.onsnetnuenen.nl/index.php?item=3289

They're cheap allright, but not that cheap. You have to pay € 20,= / month
membership fee and on top of that a certain amount for every service you take:
- internet 15,95
- RTV 13,95
- phone 9,50

So if you'd take only internet that would cost you 35,95 a month, which isn't so
bad. Unfortunately they serve only a very small area.

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Re: [opensuse] nfs server /require/ reverse DNS lookup working?!

2007-04-12 Thread Ken
Hi Zhang,
Sorry it took a few days to reply.

On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 21:08 +0800, Zhang Weiwu wrote: 
 On Mon, 2007-04-09 at 22:14 -0500, Ken Gramm wrote:
  Hello Zhang,
  Have you considered that it might actually be a security issue?  When
  you installed the MS SFU NFS client how did you answer the Username
  Mapping Server question? 
 
 I totally do not understand username mapping server and I am not sure if
 I need it. 

As the name implies, the username mapping server is used to match
Windows user ID's to your *nix user ID  (i.e. SID to UID matching).
Without it, your Windows client will not be able to provide the NFS
server with the proper UID.

If your Windows box gets it's username from a Domain, you'll need to
install the mapping server on one of your DCs and then point your
workstation to the correct server.  If it is a stand-alone machine (or
if your using a local account), you'll need to install the username
mapping locally.

 As I am setting up read-only NFS exports applying restriction
 only on IP addresses, I just think perhaps I can forget all these
 authentication and authorization things. However so far I could not
 successfully connect SFU to ANY nfs server in my office, I tried
 opensuse, gentoo Linux and FreeBSD. SFU always ends up with a message
 from SFU: Network Path Not Found. I tried these to get around the
 error message, all failed:

How are you trying to connect to the NFS server?  For me, I just right
click on My Network Places and select Map Network Drive.  Then I
enter the path (i.e. \\servername\share_name).  When you click OK, you
should get a NFS Login Successful dialog box that summarizes your
current login credentials and asks if you'd like to accept the current
login or change your login settings.  Once finished, you should have a
drive mapped to your NFS share.


  1. use IP address in /etc/exports rather then hostname or wildcard
  2. supply no_auth_nlm to Linux's /etc/exports (FreeBSD I cannot
 find this parameter);
  3. switch between TCP and UDP on SFU;
 
 The last thing I didn't try is to set up reverse DNS lookup, which is
 impossible because the whole campus have been running without reverse
 DNS for a lot of years and it will not be changed because I want it to
 change.

I'll admit that I've always use reverse DNS, but if you enter the
machines into the hosts file you should get the same effect.


Good luck!

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[opensuse] help agine

2007-04-12 Thread William Biggs
I reload my os and lost the link for win32code can someone send my the
link aging Thank you

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Re: [opensuse] Re: How to install 2.6.20 kernel on opensuse 10

2007-04-12 Thread david rankin

From: Craig Millar

Perhaps this will be of assistance?
http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_suse

Craig


Thanks Craig,

   I had found that page and it does contain some good information. 
However, I did get a little confused when the page talked about backing up 
cp /usr/lib/rpm/find-provides.ksyms, (I know this is irrelevant to 
actually building the kernel), and there were no such files on my 10.0 
install. It also omits the step about obtaining the suse makefile and 
including it in the new kernel src directory in *before* you are able to 
make cloneconfig. Otherwise make doesn't have a clue what cloneconfig is.


   I'm still working on this so if you have any additional advise, by all 
means, please share it!


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Re: [opensuse] help agine

2007-04-12 Thread Michael Skiba
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Am Donnerstag, 12. April 2007 17:31 schrieb William Biggs:
 I reload my os and lost the link for win32code can someone send my the
 link aging Thank you
www.google.de

well I don't want to be so..
http://www.google.de/search?hl=declient=firefox-arls=org.mozilla%3Ade%3Aofficialhs=Y4Lq=win32+codec+linux+packagebtnG=Suchemeta=
but the single click left to do, you've to do yourself :o

SCNR
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[opensuse] Opera 9.2

2007-04-12 Thread Carl Spitzer
kpackage test result 
20-20070409.6-shared-qt.i386-en.rpm';echo RESULT=$? RESULT=0
 


uncheck test result  Whats up with this??
Because it works fine why the error messages?


home/cwsiv/opera-9.20-20070409.6-shared-qt.i386-en.rpm';echo RESULT=$?
Could not parse file
'/usr/share/applications/openoffice.org-2.1-printeradmin.desktop':
Failed to open file
'/usr/share/applications/openoffice.org-2.1-printeradmin.desktop': No
such file or directory
Could not parse file
'/usr/share/applications/openoffice.org-2.1-base.desktop': Failed to
open file '/usr/share/applications/openoffice.org-2.1-base.desktop': No
such file or directory
Could not parse file
'/usr/share/applications/openoffice.org-2.1-calc.desktop': Failed to
open file '/usr/share/applications/openoffice.org-2.1-calc.desktop': No
such file or directory
Could not parse file
'/usr/share/applications/openoffice.org-2.1-draw.desktop': Failed to
open file '/usr/share/applications/openoffice.org-2.1-draw.desktop': No
such file or directory
Could not parse file
'/usr/share/applications/openoffice.org-2.1-impress.desktop': Failed to
open file '/usr/share/applications/openoffice.org-2.1-impress.desktop':
No such file or directory
Could not parse file
'/usr/share/applications/openoffice.org-2.1-math.desktop': Failed to
open file '/usr/share/applications/openoffice.org-2.1-math.desktop': No
such file or directory
Could not parse file
'/usr/share/applications/openoffice.org-2.1-writer.desktop': Failed to
open file '/usr/share/applications/openoffice.org-2.1-writer.desktop':
No such file or directory
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Re: [opensuse] kmail gone screwy

2007-04-12 Thread dwain
On Thursday 12 April 2007, Jorge Fábregas wrote:
 On Wednesday 11 April 2007 11:58 pm, dwain wrote:
  If you have a Gmail account, you probably realize by now that your email
  client has stopped delivering email to you.  I have been having trouble
  all afternoon with Kmail and Thunderbird not bringing down the mail.  I
  went to the google groups and I saw a post that Outlook is having the
  same problem.

 I had the same problem. It was the first time in about 5 months using the
 Gmail POP3 access. Later at night it started working again.

I'm back up also.  Screwy Gmail!

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Re: [opensuse] kmail gone screwy

2007-04-12 Thread dwain
On Thursday 12 April 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu 12 Apr 2007 11:46, Jorge Fábregas wrote:
  It was the first time in about 5 months using the
  Gmail POP3 access. Later at night it started working again

  from time-to-time have experienced interruptions in Gmail POP3 access -
 during such periods, Web access has worked OK


 friendly greetings

correct, I had no problem accessing the account from the web, but I can't post 
to this list because Gmail writes mail in html.

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[opensuse] How do I remove zmd system update from the panel tray?

2007-04-12 Thread Paul Elliott


How do I perminetly remove zmd system update from the panel tray?

If I right click on it, I get 3 options 1)quit, 2)configure, and
3) refresh, but configure and refresh are greyed out.

If I use quit it goes away, but then comes back next time
I login.

How do a make this turkey go away for good?


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Re: [opensuse] OT: Price speed of internet outside US

2007-04-12 Thread jdd

Clayton wrote:


Where I'm at in Germany now, I have ADSL2 at 16Mit down, and 1 Mbit up


adsl2+ is max 24Mbits down/1Mb up theorical, but this decrease with 
the distance from the servers. Up to 1km, bandwith is excellent, at 
3.5km yopu have nearly 512K only, and after... god knews :-)


and it seems France is lucky at 30€/month (no dl limit) :-)

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Re: [opensuse] Elevator Question

2007-04-12 Thread Bill Anderson



Carlos E. R. wrote:

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The Tuesday 2007-04-10 at 17:27 +0200, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

  

report data overruns. I also see missing characters in GPS data read
over the serial port at this time. 


Surprising... :-O
  

I get the point. But I do not think I have reached any resource limits
when this happens. I know that is hard to judge. And I could be very
wrong.



Yep. But it is indeed surprising that this could happen with current 
hardware. I wasn't even aware that it could happen. You see, if a plain 
8086 could cope (barely) at 115000, a pentium should not even cough.


It might be worth a bugzilla report...


Another idea. There are some settings in the kernel about how fast is the 
task switcher clock and how interruptible are some tasks, and real time 
settings. Playing with that could help. I have found that some times, when 
a task is busy (mozilla!) the response to the keyboard is sluggish, might 
be related to your problem. I have been playing a little with those 
settings, but I'm not learned enough on linux kernels to recommend 
anything conclusive.




  
If hardware handshaking is impossible, revert to software handshake (much 
slower, chars have to be sent back)
  

But the software handshake must require that the driver is getting
called in time, no?



Exactly; in your case it wouldn't be much use, or none at all. Mmmm...

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Changing the HZ to 1000 would only impact on tasks running in the 
process context. The top-half of the interrupt handler runs in interrupt 
context. During the initial processing of an interrupt, the handler 
suspends other interrupts on the same IRQ. Remember this is character 
I/O, so there is going to be an interrupt for each character. The 
buffering of the data for a user application occurs in the bottom half 
of the interrupt handler.
I forgot to ask if the GPS application reads the raw serial port, or 
uses a kernel module for gathering the data.


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[opensuse] Trying to build a custome boot CD.

2007-04-12 Thread Mike Diehl
Hi all.

I'm trying to build a custom install CD, but I just can't get the resulting 
disk to boot.  I want to be able to put a disk in a system, boot the system 
and come back to a fully configured machine.

This is what I'm doing:
I'm using k3b to build an image file from the original install media.

Then I'm using kiso to extract the files from the image into a directory.  In 
hind sight, I guess I could have simply copied the files, but what can I say?

Then I'm making the changes to the files that I need to make.

I use kiso to package the resulting files into an iso image which I burn with 
k3b.  Before burning, I use kiso to add a boot image to the iso.

The resulting CD won't boot.  I'm getting my isolinux.bin file from 
http://syslinux.zytor.com/iso.php and renaming it to isolinux.img so that 
kiso will recognize it.  I'm sure this is where I'm messed up, so what is the 
RIGHT way to do this?

TIA,

Mike.

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Re: [opensuse] OT: Price speed of internet outside US

2007-04-12 Thread Alexey Eremenko

So, basically we get good countries and milking countries.

good countries:

-Netherlands
-UK (England)
-France
-Germany
-Sweden

milking countries:

-Sounth Africa
-Ukraine
-Israel
-Spain
-Brazil

perhaps, it is soon time to move from Israel :)

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Re: [opensuse] How do I remove zmd system update from the panel tray?

2007-04-12 Thread Druid

On 4/12/07, Paul Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



How do I perminetly remove zmd system update from the panel tray?



It should depend on the environment you are. In case of kde, I believe
all you need to do is to logout and it will save the session, so it
wont show again...

But if you are serious in business, why not simply remove it all
together, as its simply a waste of resources in a small home network
situtation,as finally even the opensuse developers realized that and
removed from the 10.3 default installation. You can do that too:

#rpm -e libzypp-zmd-backend zmd zen-updater suse-Register rug
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Re: [opensuse] How do I disable beagle indexing deamon!

2007-04-12 Thread Paul Elliott
On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 04:27:29PM -0500, Paul Elliott wrote:
 
 Help I can not stop beagle!
 
 I have:
 
   1) removed beagle from my system tray.
 
   2) unchecked start beagle indexing service automaticly
  both from the beagle configure page and from
control center \ kde componets \ desktop search
 
 In spite of this everytime f*#king time I log in from xdm
 I get a process started like this:
 beagled /usr/lib/beagle/BeagleDaemon.exe --bg
 
 It procedes to consume system resources!
 
 I have to run beagle-shutdown to turn it off.
 
 Is there anyway to stop the f*#ker from starting in
 the first place?
 
 I do not want to remove the rpm's because I might want
 to run it some day.
 
 Why is this not documented?
 
 Please help me get rid of this turkey.
 
 


Partial answer: to disable beagle indexing systemwide:

from root edit the file :/opt/kde3/share/autostart/beagled.desktop

change the line:
X-KDE-autostart-condition=kerryrc:Beagle:AutoStart:true

to:

X-KDE-autostart-condition=kerryrc:Beagle:AutoStart:false


beagle indexing does not start anymore for all users!

This is documented nowhere!

I still think that unchecking start beagle indexing 
service automaticly not working is a bug.



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[opensuse] looking for win32code

2007-04-12 Thread William Biggs
I had to redo my pc and lost the email that had the link for the
win32code 

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Re: [opensuse] How to install 2.6.20 kernel on opensuse 10

2007-04-12 Thread david rankin

From: Kenneth Schneider
On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 14:59 -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:

david rankin wrote:
 Will my .config from the 2.6.13 kernel source I got from yast work
 with the new kernel source from kernel.org?

Yes.  Copy the old .config file to the new kernel source directory, then
do 'make oldconfig'.  It will use the old settings where it can and ask
you about any new ones.


No need to copy the file, just use make cloneconfig instead (without
the quotes of course). Then you can rune make menuconfig to make changes
or run make prepare_all.



Ok, guys,

   What am I doing wrong? I can't get make cloneconfig to work. 


I have downloaded the new 2.6.20 kernel to /usr/src

I have unlinked linux

I have done ln -s linux-2.6.20.6 linux

providence:/usr/src # ll
total 1
drwxr-xr-x  12 root root 448 2007-04-12 11:48 .
drwxr-xr-x  12 root root 344 2006-08-12 17:00 ..
drwxr-xr-x   5 root root 160 2007-04-03 14:30 debug
drwxr-xr-x   3 root root  80 2006-08-12 16:54 kernel-modules
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root  14 2007-04-12 11:48 linux - linux-2.6.20.6

I have cd linux, then

providence:/usr/src/linux # make cloneconfig
make[1]: *** No rule to make target `cloneconfig'.  Stop.
make: *** [cloneconfig] Error 2

What am I missing??


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Re: [opensuse] kmail gone screwy

2007-04-12 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [04-12-07 12:41]:
 [...]
 correct, I had no problem accessing the account from the web, but I
 can't post to this list because Gmail writes mail in html.

relay your posts via your isp and use the gmail from addr.  Then you
see your own posts   :^)

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Re: [opensuse] How do I disable beagle indexing deamon!

2007-04-12 Thread Druid

On 4/11/07, Alexey Eremenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I don't really understand, why users need beagle at all ?

Isn't find and locate serve all the searching purposes on the local PC ?


I dont understand why people need computers at all? Isnt paper and
pencil enough for all the purposes?


Do you really need to comment about things you dont understand just so
you can post in every single thread of the list?
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Re: [opensuse] How do I remove zmd system update from the panel tray?

2007-04-12 Thread Joe Morris (NTM)
Paul Elliott wrote:
 How do I perminetly remove zmd system update from the panel tray?
   
Is this 10.2?  If it is, Yast, System, etc/sysconfig Editor, System,
Yast2, PREFERRED_SW_MANAGER_STACK and set it to opensuse.

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Re: [opensuse] Does openSUSE loses ClearType functionality due to Novell-Microsoft patent deal ?

2007-04-12 Thread Darryl Gregorash
On 2007-04-11 00:27, M Harris wrote:
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   If Novell wanted to educate (rather than lambast and humiliate) they 
 might do 
 well to improve their communication channels... stop swearing... and make 
 sure that all parties understand clearly what is happening and why.  If there 
 is ignorance regarding the Novell business relationship with M$ only Novell 
 is to blame for that.
Novell can say all it wants about the deal with The Company from
Redmond® and it all does no good when Perens and Moglen open their
mouths to say, What parts of the deal aren't you telling us about,
Novell Corp? Then there are all the trol^H^H^H^H nice people like Mark
Shuttleworth, who have the audacity to subscribe to this list for no
purpose than to troll for allegedly disgruntled users and Novell/SuSE
employees.

What would you have us and/or SuSE/Novell do about all this, that has
not already been done?

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Re: [opensuse] Does openSUSE loses ClearType functionality due to Novell-Microsoft patent deal ?

2007-04-12 Thread Darryl Gregorash
On 2007-04-12 07:39, Druid wrote:
 On 4/12/07, Glenn Holmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thursday 12 April 2007 00:21, Druid wrote:
  If you ahve nothing to say, just shut it and stay quiet

 You quoted 67 lines to say that.  What's wrong with this picture?


 Whats wrong with this picture ios you not understanding that if you
 dont have any reason to post, you should not post
There is a shoe you can put on your foot, to see if it fits.

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[opensuse] may we get official openSUSE PHPbb forum?

2007-04-12 Thread Alexey Eremenko

hi all !

I much prefer the PHPbb forum to mailing-lists, so I would like to
request building such a centralized forum, as there are many available
currently, but no central one.

The one I liked most (in design) is:
http://opensuse.us/

What do you think about building a new one or declaring some currently
existing one as the official?

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Re: [opensuse] TV tuners and alikes.

2007-04-12 Thread michael norman
On Thursday 12 April 2007 15:04:15 Clayton wrote:
 This popped up on the opensuse.us forum on Monday.  A good read, and
 looks to be nicely compatible with Linux.

 http://lunapark6.com/usb-hdtv-tuner-stick-for-windows-linux-hauppauge-wintv
-hvr-950.html

 Maybe at least somewhat useful... of only as a reference.

 C.

Interesting.  I;m in UK and one of the links points to Amazon UK who can 
supply the device, and later on in the article it says it works with Mythtv.

So my question is, can I get Mythtv to work with openSUSE 10.2, if so where do 
I get it from and how do I set it up ?
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Re: [opensuse] Opensuse - a MS patent observer?

2007-04-12 Thread Darryl Gregorash
On 2007-04-11 16:24, SOTL wrote:
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 As one can see by going to Distro Watch
 http://distrowatch.com/
   
That is just a counter for the number of page hits to
distrowatch.com/distro_name. Those numbers are meaningless. I
occasionally inflate the oppositions' numbers myself, looking to see
what new and exciting things they are doing.

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Re: [opensuse] looking for win32code

2007-04-12 Thread Michael Skiba
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Am Donnerstag, 12. April 2007 18:53 schrieb William Biggs:
 I had to redo my pc and lost the email that had the link for the
 win32code
You didn't get it, didn't you?
Any futher email with the same topic will be counted as troll attempts and 
probably left unanswered, so keep in mind what you're doing. :)

With best regards
Michael Skiba
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Re: [opensuse] TV tuners and alikes.

2007-04-12 Thread Sunny

On 4/12/07, michael norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Interesting.  I;m in UK and one of the links points to Amazon UK who can
supply the device, and later on in the article it says it works with Mythtv.

So my question is, can I get Mythtv to work with openSUSE 10.2, if so where do
I get it from and how do I set it up ?
Mike


Add packman's repository, there is MythTV. You need mysql running as
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Re: [opensuse] TV tuners and alikes.

2007-04-12 Thread Clayton

 So my question is, can I get Mythtv to work with openSUSE 10.2, if so where do
 I get it from and how do I set it up ?
 Mike

Add packman's repository, there is MythTV. You need mysql running as
well in order to run the backend..



I'm running MythTV on my 10.2 system.  Works great.  Very easy to
install and set up from the Packman repository(mythtv + mysql).  Do a
little reading on the MythTV site for what you need to do to configure
the backend - its not hard if you follow the directions.

I've got my MythTV running in a separate KDE session which is
displayed on my TV... and love it.  Very easy to use, and has some
rather nifty features like cataloging all your video, and linking it
up with the IMDB cover art and descriptions.

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