Re: [opensuse-factory] [maybe offtopic] Pattern that breaks Yast?

2007-06-01 Thread Stanislav Visnovsky
Dňa Ut 15. Máj 2007 17:07 Alan Mosca napísal:
 Firstly thanks for your reply. I just checked the packages by going with
 an install without the pattern and then installing them one by one, and
 it seems like one of them specifically is breaking yast. All the custom
 rpms I'm building are being built on a SLES 10 machine, do you think
 that could be the cause?

Basically yes. YaST2 core uses dynamic library loading a lot and it can break 
easily if you don't build all core packages against the same system.

Stano
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug Day/s Lets Get it going.

2007-06-01 Thread Ted Bullock
Now is probably the latest time to run this bug day thing if it is going
to have any sizable effect on 10.3.  Alpha period is almost over (only
two alpha releases left to make changes in).

Suggessted Wiki Node for Bug Triage Day
(http://en.opensuse.org/Bug:Triage_Day)

I'd like to schedule this for next week/weekend

-Ted

Ted Bullock wrote:
 Alberto Passalacqua wrote:
 Il giorno dom, 04/03/2007 alle 13.18 +, Francis Giannaros ha
 scritto:
 Just a note that I don't necessarily think that the Bug triage day(s) 
 should 
 happen just yet -- I think the ideal time is just a couple or so months 
 before release, where changes can still be made, but there's feature freeze 
 etc. That would be the most productive time for it, I believe.
 Yes! I agree on this. Doing them now is premature in my opinion because
 too many changes and features still have to be introduced.

 Regards,
 Alberto

 
 I disagree with this,
 
 I think that a bug review should be scheduled as soon as reasonable.
 While your statements about it being too early are true for the bugs
 listed against the 10.3 release, the bugs listed against the older
 releases should really be addressed as quickly as possible so that they
 stand a chance of making it into the 10.3 at all.
 
 If you wait too long on this, they will skip yet another release cycle.
 
 I think that the early alpha time frame is ideal to review bugs against
 the older releases otherwise fixing them might introduce too much churn
 to be included after a feature freeze.
 
 Thoughts?
 

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug Day/s Lets Get it going.

2007-06-01 Thread Alexey Eremenko

Well, yes. Bug day(s) is very important for our project.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug Day/s Lets Get it going.

2007-06-01 Thread Alberto Passalacqua
Il giorno ven, 01/06/2007 alle 07.34 -0600, Ted Bullock ha scritto:
 Now is probably the latest time to run this bug day thing if it is going
 to have any sizable effect on 10.3.  

We still are in alpha stage. I'd wait for the latest alpha first, and
then plan it.

With kind regards,
A.


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[opensuse] Re: [opensuse-mobile] SD/MS Card Reader

2007-06-01 Thread Frank Seidel
On Friday 01 June 2007 02:45:55 Fernando Costa wrote:
 06:04.0 CardBus bridge: ENE Technology Inc CB-712/4 Cardbus Controller
 (rev 10)
 06:04.1 FLASH memory: ENE Technology Inc ENE PCI Memory Stick Card
 Reader Controller (rev 01)
 06:04.2 Generic system peripheral [Class 0805]: ENE Technology Inc ENE
 PCI Secure Digital Card Reader Controller (rev 01)
 06:04.4 FLASH memory: ENE Technology Inc Unknown device 0551 (rev 01)
 
 Can anyone help me to make it work.
Hi,

what openSUSE and kernel version are you using on that laptop?

Frank
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Re: [opensuse] Wireless troubles in 10.2 installation

2007-06-01 Thread John Andersen
On Thursday 31 May 2007, Jos van Kan wrote:
 I hate to think what would have happened, had I been a newbie trying linux
 for the first time. The problem is well known btw, as the 18700 google hits
 on suse 10.2 bcm43xx firmware testify. Among those a substantial amount
 consists of newbies being left stranded in the desert.

 The card does not run under knetworkmanager, but what else is new?

There is of course no reason why you could not have continued to
use ndiswrapper.  

With Ndiswrapper you also had to supply firmware (in the form of windows
drivers).  So you had already crossed this bridge once before, (apparently
successfully) at a time when you were more of a newbie than you are today.

I think you underestimate newbies.  

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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-security] Need help with SuSE 9.3 and/var/log/auth.log

2007-06-01 Thread John Andersen
On Thursday 31 May 2007, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
  The old syslog is still the default for reasons that escape me.

 Do you mean even in 10.2?? We need to find the maintainer for that and
 slap him on the head :-)

No, not in 10.2. 
I was pleasantly surprised to to see syslog-ng as default in 10.2.

Surprised because net-filter messages seemingly fell off the face
of the earth - I was still expecting them in /var/log/messages rather than
/var/log/firewall.

I think at the time 9.3 was released syslog-ng was not considered 
ready for prime time or something.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: mysql will not start after php upgrade

2007-06-01 Thread Michal Marek
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
 ok, 
   1. reinstalled mysql from server:database repo
   rpm -Uvh --replacepkgs ./mysql-5.0.41-4.1.x86_64.rpm
   2. reinstalled php5 from server:/php/SUSE_Linux_10.1/x86_64/
   rpm -Uvh --replacepkgs ./php5-5.2.2-49.1.x86_64.rpm
   3. installed mysql-shared-5.0.18-16
   had newer version which apparently was dropped?

Please do *not* mix different versions. Use only the 5.0.41 packages
from the buildservice repository and post the results here.


   4. installed libmysqlclient15-5.0.41.-4.1
   required by (3), BUT provides overlapping files ???

No, this is a replacement for the old mysql-shared package.


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[opensuse] no brochure printing in opensuse ooo2.2

2007-06-01 Thread John King
For some time I've used the brochure printing facility in the versions of 
openoffice.org downloaded from the openoffice.ord site to produce A5 
brochures, catalogues, programmes etc.  However, in the latest 
version of openoffice 10.2 downloaded from the opensuse servers, it is no 
longer possible to print in brochure format.

Briefly, for those who have not used this facility in openoffice, you set a 
page format of A5 portrait, enter your text and graphics, and then at 
printing time choose the options sub-dialogue of the print dialogue and 
select 'brochure', then in the printer properties dialogue, set the paper 
size to A4 and the orientation to Landscape.  A multipage brochure is then 
printed out in A5 format, with all the pages arranged for stapling.  (if you 
haven't got a duplex printer, you have to make 2 passes, but the page size 
and orientation principle remains the same).  Full explanations are in the 
openoffice help under 'brochures', with the specific instruction to set the 
orientation to Landscape.

In the 'standard' openoffice package downloaded from the ooo site, this works 
as described.  You can see a .png of the printer properties dialogue on

http://www.kingshome.co.uk/ooo/bugs/standard-ooo2.2.png

Similarly, the staroffice 8 version is the same:

http://www.kingshome.co.uk/ooo/bugs/staroffice8.png

These have been tested out on both Suse 10 and opensuse 10.2

However, the recent opensuse ooo2.2 (on both suse 10 and 10.2) does not 
behave in the same way.  When you click on the printer properties, a dialogue 
comes up that does not allow you to set landscape orientation for the paper, 
as shown on:

http://www.kingshome.co.uk/ooo/bugs/opensuse-ooo2.2.png

This makes it impossible to print out in brochure format with 2 A5 portrait 
pages side by side.

It seems as if the orientation in the opensuse version of ooo can only be that 
of the page format in the original document, not the one set at printing 
time, as in the 'standard' versions.  I don't know whether this is a bug or 
not, but it is odd that it behaves differently.  I've also tried this out 
with different printers, with the same result in the various applications, so 
I do not think it is a printer driver problem.

Is there any way round this?


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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-security] Need help with SuSE 9.3 and/var/log/auth.log

2007-06-01 Thread Darryl Gregorash
On 2007-06-01 03:22, Carlos E. R. wrote:

 The Thursday 2007-05-31 at 09:21 -0600, Darryl Gregorash wrote:

  I do not even understand why syslogd is even still included in the
  distribution, unless it is for die-hard admins who think anything that
  can be understood by ordinary folk is evil :-)

 Probably because syslogd is more tested and reliable. The ng one still has
 some bugs, and even missing features.
Which version is in 10.2? Go to the syslog-ng homepage, current version
is 2.0.

I'm not sure which features might be missing, syslog-ng doesn't encrypt
or compress a log file. I suppose encryption would be important for any
separate log file for facility authpriv. Does syslogd support file
encryption?

 Even so, I prefer the ng one.
So do I, by a large margin.

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[opensuse] Not a question, rather a statement

2007-06-01 Thread Verner Kjærsgaard
Hi list,

- this list has often debated the useability of SuSE/Linux in general - over 
that other OS.

- at 11:15 this morning I powered up my brand new Epson Perfection V700 Photo 
scanner. I plugged in the USB cord. My SuSE10.2 found the scanner and 
subsequently downloaded software to run it.

- at 11:21 I did my first scan. Perfect.
- at 11:24 I did my second scan, this time a transparency. Perfect.

- I did not touch the CDs that came with the scanner. I'm now reading the 
manual.

Linux/Suse rules and rocks!
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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-security] Need help with SuSE 9.3 and/var/log/auth.log

2007-06-01 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Thursday 2007-05-31 at 09:21 -0600, Darryl Gregorash wrote:

 I do not even understand why syslogd is even still included in the
 distribution, unless it is for die-hard admins who think anything that
 can be understood by ordinary folk is evil :-)

Probably because syslogd is more tested and reliable. The ng one still has 
some bugs, and even missing features.

Even so, I prefer the ng one.

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Re: [opensuse] updating problem (opensususeupdater)

2007-06-01 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Thursday 2007-05-31 at 22:11 -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote:

 Please DO NOT top post.
 Please DO NOT top post.

¡PLEASE!

This is MY thread. You haven't added any thing about my question. No need 
to tell people not to topost if you don't have anything else to say :-(

You have just initiated a useless argument branch. :-/

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[opensuse] OpenOffice properties tab

2007-06-01 Thread Hans van der Merwe

I have anti-aliasing off and 8pt Arial as OOo menu font.
Is it just my install that render the properties tabs so badly; ie the
fonts are squeezed into a very small tab; if there is a double tab row
there is a thin line between die tab rows; the sides of the tab row is
not rounded; etc.
I have pics if its not clear what Im talking about.




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Re: [opensuse] Error: ld.so: object '/usr/lib/libaoss.so' from LD_PERLOAD cannot be preloaded

2007-06-01 Thread G T Smith
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 Hi List,
 
 I get the following error:
 ld.so: object '/usr/lib/libaoss.so' from LD_PERLOAD cannot be preloaded
 when running up Firefox
 
 AND also when trying to compile (for example turbojpeg).
 
 Running opensuse 10.2 on x86_64
 
 Any help appreciated in obtaining the right library object file.
 
 Thanks
 Herry
 

The first thing I would ask is does the library exist. The majority of
occasions I have come across this kind of message have been when the
indicated file is a corrupted generic link to the real library.

The second thing I would ask has this always happened, if not what was
the last thing you did before things broke.

The library concerned is supplied by ALSA, and I would guess from the
oss bit has something to with OSS. It is a link to
/usr/lib/libaoss.so.0.0 on my install. I would check whether the link is
broken.

You could reapply the SuSE ALSA package but it may be simpler to fix the
link.


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Re: [opensuse] nVidia Video Card Advice Please

2007-06-01 Thread Dave Howorth
Mike wrote:
 As I said in the post, I ran sax2 -r -m 0=nv prior to installing 
 the nvidia proprietary drivers so that I could at least get my wide 
 screen display functioning. After installing the nvidia drivers, I 
 activated the driver as you stated above. The proprietary driver for
  3D is working fine. The problem is with the font rendering.

but before that Mike wrote:
 It still shows up as a Vesa Framebuffer adapter even though the 
 nVidia drivers are loaded.

I'm confused. Is the proprietary driver running or not?

If it is running: (a) do you see the nvidia splash screen at start up?
(b) what do you mean by It still shows up as a Vesa Framebuffer?

 Also, I am getting extremely bad ghosting (shadowing) of my fonts
 which is especially noticeable while typing on a white background. 
 I've tried adjusting the aliasing/anti-aliasing and changing to and 
 from sub-pixel hinting with varying hinting styles, but so far I 
 haven't come across the magic combination yet to get rid of the lousy
  looking fonts.

How are you making these adjustments?

What is the X screen size in pixels? (e.g. as given by xdpyinfo)
What is the native resolution of the monitor?

Cheers, Dave
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Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice.org 2.2

2007-06-01 Thread Michael Riess
Petr Mladek schrieb:
 On Monday 21 May 2007 00:53, James Knott wrote:
 I just downloaded the latest 64 bit and noticed the splash screen is now
 green instead of the previous blue.  Blue looks better.  I guess I'd
 better file a bug report.  ;-)
 
 The green one is for openSUSE-10.3. Unfortunately, we used splash screen 
 where 
 the exact OOo version was mentioned, so the older blue one is not longer 
 usable. I would get another bugs reports with it, e.g. 
 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=244914
 
 I am sorry, I hope that you can live with the green one. I am getting to like 
 it ;-)

i also like it, but think i can help:
(yes i saw the smiley beneath your initial question ;-) )

give your konqui a URL of:
/usr/lib/ooo-2.0/program/*.bmp

and simply change the openintro_suse.bmp
into the bmp of your choice

kde-look.org offers a variety of Splash-Screens
 if you dont have the old one any more


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Re: [opensuse] SSH Login Message

2007-06-01 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Tuesday 2007-05-22 at 16:29 -0400, Bob wrote:

 I actually systems. The test one that I configure for LDAP a few months ago
 doesn't do this. It is the production one that does now so I can compared
 config files between the 2 systems. The syslog config on both systems are the
 same.

I'm having a similar problem now:

  http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2007-05/msg02814.html

Please add yourself to the bugzilla:

  https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=279904

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Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice.org 2.2

2007-06-01 Thread Petr Mladek
On Friday 01 June 2007 11:52, Jakub Steiner wrote:
 On Thu, 2007-05-31 at 13:39 -0400, JP Rosevear wrote:
  On Thu, 2007-05-31 at 19:29 +0200, Petr Mladek wrote:
   On Monday 21 May 2007 00:53, James Knott wrote:
I just downloaded the latest 64 bit and noticed the splash screen is
now green instead of the previous blue.  Blue looks better.  I guess
I'd better file a bug report.  ;-)
  
   The green one is for openSUSE-10.3. Unfortunately, we used splash
   screen where the exact OOo version was mentioned, so the older blue one
   is not longer usable. I would get another bugs reports with it, e.g.
   https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=244914
  
   I am sorry, I hope that you can live with the green one. I am getting
   to like it ;-)
 
  I bet Jakub could whip up another blue one to match the rest of the
  theming.

 So to get this straight, an openSUSE 10.2 styled splash (blue) with
 OpenOffice.org 2 label is needed? Or a specific OOo version? 2.2?

I think that we might omit the version at all. OOo-3.x will come one day... Or 
would we want to prepare OOo-3 splashscreens for older products?


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Re: [opensuse] console 10 syslog messages are going to active tty

2007-06-01 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Thursday 2007-05-31 at 14:35 -0600, Darryl Gregorash wrote:


   Restart syslog.
 Reload, actually, which simply suspends klogd's logging until syslog-ng
 receives a HUP, then resumes klogd -- sending syslog-ng a HUP causes it
 to re-read its config file. With a restart, both are stopped, then
 restarted, with a possible loss of some log information.
 
  Very probably that would work, but it is the last resource so that the 
  bug can be investigated.
 My first guess is that somehow syslog-ng's internal data table has
 become corrupted, resulting in the firewall log messages somehow going
 to the current tty. I think that is going to be a very difficult bug to
 track down.

That's true.

 Suggest you simply restart, keep an eye on it, and see if
 the problem returns.

Somebody reported a very similar problem not a month ago, but I don't 
remember the message.

[...]

Here: 

http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2007-05/msg02084.html


 BTW, are you still getting information logged to /var/log/firewall?

Now that you mention it, maybe no, then maybe there are no intrussions 
now. I'll fire up the donkey and see.

[...]

Yes, I get them into the firewall log, and if I switch to a tty, I get 
them too. in there.

I have reported this to bugzilla, #279904

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Re: [opensuse] Not a question, rather a statement

2007-06-01 Thread jdd

Verner Kjærsgaard wrote:

- I did not touch the CDs that came with the scanner. I'm now reading the 
manual.


last week, My son's XP computer had problems with it's sound card

I found an old pci souncard... and was unable to find any Xp driver 
anywhere... only w98 ones... no success


just to compare :-)

jdd

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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-security] Need help with SuSE 9.3 and/var/log/auth.log

2007-06-01 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Friday 2007-06-01 at 03:50 -0600, Darryl Gregorash wrote:

  some bugs, and even missing features.
 Which version is in 10.2? Go to the syslog-ng homepage, current version
 is 2.0.

syslog-ng-1.6.11-23

And I ain't updating, too basic.

 I'm not sure which features might be missing, syslog-ng doesn't encrypt
 or compress a log file. I suppose encryption would be important for any
 separate log file for facility authpriv. Does syslogd support file
 encryption?

Dunno. Not implemented documented features:

   mark(n)
  The number of seconds between two MARK lines.  NOTE: not 
  implemented yet.


Bugs: the one I reported today.

Worse is that to find a parse error in the config file is awfully 
difficult, the error messages do not point to the exact culprit. No 
parsing help tools. A parse error may mean no daemon loaded.

  Even so, I prefer the ng one.
 So do I, by a large margin.

So do I, but I tremble when thinking of a change. I once had to fight one 
for days.

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[opensuse] Re: mysql will not start after php upgrade

2007-06-01 Thread Cristian Rodriguez R.
Michal Marek escribió:
 Patrick Shanahan wrote:
 ok, 
   1. reinstalled mysql from server:database repo
   rpm -Uvh --replacepkgs ./mysql-5.0.41-4.1.x86_64.rpm
   2. reinstalled php5 from server:/php/SUSE_Linux_10.1/x86_64/
   rpm -Uvh --replacepkgs ./php5-5.2.2-49.1.x86_64.rpm
   3. installed mysql-shared-5.0.18-16
   had newer version which apparently was dropped?
 
 Please do *not* mix different versions. Use only the 5.0.41 packages
 from the buildservice repository and post the results here.
 
 
   4. installed libmysqlclient15-5.0.41.-4.1
   required by (3), BUT provides overlapping files ???
 
 No, this is a replacement for the old mysql-shared package.
 

Still might not work. as PHP does not want to build against
server:database_10.1 this is the error now.

installing libmysqlclient15-5.0.41-4.1
file /usr/lib/libmysqlclient.so.15.0.0 from install of
libmysqlclient15-5.0.41-4.1 conflicts with file from package
mysql-shared-5.0.18-16
file /usr/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so.15 from install of
libmysqlclient15-5.0.41-4.1 conflicts with file from package
mysql-shared-5.0.18-16

Patrick : you need mysql from the server:database repository and PHP
from **only** this repo

http://software.opensuse.org/download/server:/php/server_database_SUSE_Linux_10.1


if RPMs are not there that means it is broken and you need to wait for
them to be ready to use. do not mix stuff, as that way you will only
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Re: [opensuse] updating problem (opensususeupdater)

2007-06-01 Thread G T Smith
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Randall R Schulz wrote:
 On Thursday 31 May 2007 19:11, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
 ...

 Please DO NOT top post.
 [x4]

 It makes it really hard to read when looking through the archives.
 
 Perhaps we could interest you in a nice thread-aware mail reader? Or 
 convince you to simply follow along, rather than try to skip to the 
 end?
 
 
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 RRS

I think the problem he is really more bothered about is when some things
are at the top and some things at the bottom plus bits put in the
middle. After a while the result can get somewhat incoherent. Even while
following a particular thread it can become difficult to follow the plot
as a consequence.

I think a little common sense is required here. While I (nowadays)
prefer things to be bottom posted, I think it might be useful if one
responds to a thread consistently and not mix top and bottom posting,
(and edit out stuff which is not relevant to a response). With the focus
on retaining some coherence rather than religiously applying a convention.

I have noticed other respondents take the time to split replies on more
complex queries into multiple more focussed comments, a practice I
should think about adopting.




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Re: [opensuse] updating problem (opensususeupdater)

2007-06-01 Thread jdd

G T Smith wrote:


I think a little common sense is required here.


top posting can be used if the previous message is only included for 
reference, but not needed to understand the answer. This should be 
done too often


jdd

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Re: [opensuse] knetwork manager issues

2007-06-01 Thread Will Stephenson
On Thursday 31 May 2007 23:39:21 Gordon J. Holtslander wrote:
 I have a laptop hp nx 7300.

 If  I leave the system running for more than a few hours the networkmanager
 program quits running and can't be restarted.  I use it to manage the
 wireless networking on this system

 If I stop the network manager program and restart, I am returned a message
 that the network manager is not running.  It does not appear to be possible
 to restart the network manager.

 In order to re establish a wireless network connection I am forced to
 restart the computer.

 Any way around this?  I have the wireless card setup to be managed as a
 regular user with networkmanager.

It shouldn't crash.  Post a bug report (bugzilla.novell.com) and 
include /var/log/NetworkManager - this should show the daemon's crash 
backtrace.  

'rcnetwork restart' should restart the daemon, if not, please also indicate 
which part of the logfile is you trying to restart it.

Will
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Re: [opensuse] Activating system root messages to /var/mail/'username'

2007-06-01 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Friday 2007-06-01 at 12:56 +1000, Registration Account wrote:

 These messages were sent to /var/mail/'username' and
 were in mbox format and could be read by your email
 client under a local delivery or movemail type server.
 
 In 10.2 I did not see the option as part of the install.

It is there. I installed a new 10.2 system yesterday and saw it, one of 
the questions, though I can't remember the context. I think it was when it 
asked who was the first user in the system.

 Does anyone know where in Yast you go to to active
 these messages. If I have to revert to a command line
 then that's o.k to.

As Patrick said, in the aliases file. And perhaps in yast, mail setup (for 
the user).

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[opensuse] Re: mysql will not start after php upgrade

2007-06-01 Thread Michal Marek
Cristian Rodriguez R. wrote:
 Michal Marek escribió:
 Patrick Shanahan wrote:
 ok, 
   1. reinstalled mysql from server:database repo
   rpm -Uvh --replacepkgs ./mysql-5.0.41-4.1.x86_64.rpm
   2. reinstalled php5 from server:/php/SUSE_Linux_10.1/x86_64/
   rpm -Uvh --replacepkgs ./php5-5.2.2-49.1.x86_64.rpm
   3. installed mysql-shared-5.0.18-16
   had newer version which apparently was dropped?
 Please do *not* mix different versions. Use only the 5.0.41 packages
 from the buildservice repository and post the results here.


   4. installed libmysqlclient15-5.0.41.-4.1
   required by (3), BUT provides overlapping files ???
 No, this is a replacement for the old mysql-shared package.

 
 Still might not work. as PHP does not want to build against
 server:database_10.1 this is the error now.

Getting the php5-mysql extension working with the new mysql lib is
another story (btw, I removed mysql-beta yesterday, so it's just a
question of time until the packages are ready). Let's first focus on the
mysql_upgrade failure reported in the original mail.


 if RPMs are not there that means it is broken and you need to wait for
 them to be ready to use. do not mix stuff, as that way you will only
 shoot yourself in the foot.

Exactly.

Michal
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Re: [opensuse] no brochure printing in opensuse ooo2.2

2007-06-01 Thread Joe Morris (NTM)
John King wrote:
 For some time I've used the brochure printing facility in the versions of 
 openoffice.org downloaded from the openoffice.ord site to produce A5 
 brochures, catalogues, programmes etc.  However, in the latest 
 version of openoffice 10.2 downloaded from the opensuse servers, it is no 
 longer possible to print in brochure format.
   
It looks like the problem is not necessarily brochure printing as no
Orientation setting in the printer dialog box.
 It seems as if the orientation in the opensuse version of ooo can only be 
 that 
 of the page format in the original document, not the one set at printing 
 time, as in the 'standard' versions.  I don't know whether this is a bug or 
 not, but it is odd that it behaves differently.  I've also tried this out 
 with different printers, with the same result in the various applications, so 
 I do not think it is a printer driver problem.

   
I would recommend to fill a bug report at https://bugzilla.novell.com

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Re: [opensuse] knetwork manager issues

2007-06-01 Thread Sean Craig
Hi Gordon,

Are you using ndiswrapper to get your wireless card working? 

While I've never had NetworkManager quit on me, I do have the problem of
NetworkManager not being able to 'configure device' (everything after
that fails) if I don't login and let it connect immediately after the
system is up. 
 
Regards

Sean


Gordon J. Holtslander wrote:
 Hi:

 I have a laptop hp nx 7300.

 If  I leave the system running for more than a few hours the networkmanager 
 program quits running and can't be restarted.  I use it to manage the 
 wireless networking on this system

 If I stop the network manager program and restart, I am returned a message 
 that the network manager is not running.  It does not appear to be possible 
 to restart the network manager.

 In order to re establish a wireless network connection I am forced to restart 
 the computer.

 Any way around this?  I have the wireless card setup to be managed as a 
 regular user with networkmanager.

 Gord
   
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[opensuse] VPN Client (Solved)

2007-06-01 Thread Kai Ponte
A little while ago, I asked about the KVpnc client, as I was being
unsuccessful in using it to connect to my work. I had used the Cisco
vpnclient but wanted something with a single-click (GUI) and that
wouldn't break every time I updated the kernel.

Unfortunately, it just doesn't work for me.

Today, I copied the cisco VPN client from my desktop system and
installed it.   I have the Cisco Systems VPN Client Version 4.8 and
sure enough, it works out of the box. I just installed it, copied my
.pcf file over to the Profiles folder and ran it as root.

Works like a charm. I'm now on my corporate network while sitting at
my dining table enjoying a cup of tea.

http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/2007/20070601_suse_rdc.jpg

...ahh, I love it when computers work...



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Re: [opensuse] Re: mysql will not start after php upgrade

2007-06-01 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Cristian Rodriguez R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [06-01-07 06:25]:
 Patrick : you need mysql from the server:database repository and PHP
 from **only** this repo

I did for mysql, but there is no php5 available at the url below

 http://software.opensuse.org/download/server:/php/server_database_SUSE_Linux_10.1
 
 
 if RPMs are not there that means it is broken and you need to wait for
 them to be ready to use. do not mix stuff, as that way you will only
 shoot yourself in the foot.

this is what is there  :^(

libedit-2.10.snap20070302-5.1.x86_64.rpm
libedit-devel-2.10.snap20070302-5.1.x86_64.rpm
ming-0.4.0.beta5.snap20070526-4.1.x86_64.rpm
ming-devel-0.4.0.beta5.snap20070526-4.1.x86_64.rpm
ming-python-0.4.0.beta5.snap20070526-4.1.x86_64.rpm
ming-tcl-0.4.0.beta5.snap20070526-4.1.x86_64.rpm
qdbm-1.8.70-2.1.x86_64.rpm
qdbm-c++-1.8.70-2.1.x86_64.rpm
qdbm-c++-devel-1.8.70-2.1.x86_64.rpm
qdbm-c++-test-1.8.70-2.1.x86_64.rpm
qdbm-debuginfo-1.8.70-2.1.x86_64.rpm
qdbm-devel-1.8.70-2.1.x86_64.rpm
qdbm-perl-1.8.70-2.1.x86_64.rpm
qdbm-perl-test-1.8.70-2.1.x86_64.rpm
qdbm-ruby-1.8.70-2.1.x86_64.rpm
qdbm-ruby-test-1.8.70-2.1.x86_64.rpm
qdbm-test-1.8.70-2.1.x86_64.rpm
suphp-0.6.2-10.1.x86_64.rpm
suphp-debuginfo-0.6.2-10.1.x86_64.rpm


So I need to wait ??

tks,

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Re: [opensuse] using ~/Mail (was: Best way to copy mail (kmail))

2007-06-01 Thread Constant Brouerius van Nidek
On Tuesday 01 May 2007, Carlos F Lange wrote:
 using ~/Mail (was: Best way to copy mail (kmail))

Dear Carlos,
Liked the idea of a visible Mail directory but had no time to work on it.
Finilly I have tried to move my kmail directory to a newly made 
  
~/Mail directory but that does not seem to work.
Could you give some hints how to move my mails to the new directory?

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[opensuse] Re: How to limit/eliminate CPU/FAN Noise? (SOLVED)

2007-06-01 Thread Gaël Lams

Hi,

I finally go an activation code for SLED 10. After downloading and
installing the nvidia-driver the noise disappear: it was due the
nVidia's fan

Regards,

Gael
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[opensuse] amaroK sound glitches

2007-06-01 Thread Martin Mielke
Hi all,

for some reason I still haven't sorted out amaroK has started to put an 
annoying glitch while playing from any source (sound file, streams, CD/DVD...). 
It only lasts like 1 ms but it's disgusting...

I tried with some other players such as MPlayer or Exaile and they just work 
smoothly... so it must be an amaroK issue.

I also reinstalled amaroK and the xine library but the problem still remains...

The amaroK-related packages installed on my OpenSuSE 10.2:

amarok-1.4.5-101.guru.suse102
amarok-xine-1.4.5-101.guru.suse102
libxine1-1.1.6-0.pm.0

Any hints?


TIA,
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[opensuse] Re: amaroK sound glitches

2007-06-01 Thread Jonathan Arnold
Martin Mielke wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 for some reason I still haven't sorted out amaroK has started to put an
 annoying glitch while playing from any source (sound file, streams,
 CD/DVD...). It only lasts like 1 ms but it's disgusting...

Yup, same here. Isn't it annoying? I've minimized the problem by turning off
lots of the extras that come with it, like the lyrics download. I think it is
too busy doing other things, besides just playing music. But it still
happens.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: CD question

2007-06-01 Thread jdd

James Hatridge wrote:

normally when the CD will not read correctly and the system just keeps trying 
and trying to read the CD. I can kill the program, but somewhere the system 
is still trying to read, there does not seem to be a timeout. 


it's the inboard system that is faulty, often this mean a failing 
drive, and the problem is the same whatever OS you use.


jdd


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Re: [opensuse] Error: ld.so: object '/usr/lib/libaoss.so' from LD_PERLOAD cannot be preloaded

2007-06-01 Thread eshsf
Hello,

On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 10:18:07 +0100
G T Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi List,
  
  I get the following error:
  ld.so: object '/usr/lib/libaoss.so' from LD_PERLOAD cannot be preloaded
  when running up Firefox
  
  AND also when trying to compile (for example turbojpeg).
  
  Running opensuse 10.2 on x86_64
  
  Any help appreciated in obtaining the right library object file.
  
  Thanks
  Herry
  
 
 The first thing I would ask is does the library exist. The majority of
 occasions I have come across this kind of message have been when the
 indicated file is a corrupted generic link to the real library.
 
 The second thing I would ask has this always happened, if not what was
 the last thing you did before things broke.
 
 The library concerned is supplied by ALSA, and I would guess from the
 oss bit has something to with OSS. It is a link to
 /usr/lib/libaoss.so.0.0 on my install. I would check whether the link is
 broken.
 
 You could reapply the SuSE ALSA package but it may be simpler to fix the
 link.

And just for your information:

  % rpm -qf /usr/lib/libaoss.so
  alsa-32bit-1.0.13-22

It works for me. as smith said, it might not be installed possibly.


Hope this helps


Regards,
eshsf

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[opensuse] Re: CD question

2007-06-01 Thread James Hatridge
HI all,
On Thursday 31 May 2007 19:26, Fazer wrote:
 you can also try

 eject -m

  -m-- do not unmount device even if it is mounted

I'll try this the next time it happens. To go futher into it, problems are 
normally when the CD will not read correctly and the system just keeps trying 
and trying to read the CD. I can kill the program, but somewhere the system 
is still trying to read, there does not seem to be a timeout. 

JIM

BTW, thanks to everyone that helps on this list, you guys are great!



 Dnia czwartek 31 maj 2007, G T Smith napisał:
  James Hatridge wrote:
   Hi all,
  
   Sometimes I have a CD/DVD go bad etc and it will not come out of the CD
   reader. As root I try the eject command and it will not work saying
   that the CD is busy. So far I've ended up rebooting to get the !§$ CD
   out. Is there a way to force the eject command to work without
   rebooting?
  
   Thanks,
  
   JIM
 
  Not clear whether this is when burning or when reading, and which
  applications you are having a problem with.
 
  If it is a data CD try manually unmounting before ejecting.
 
  It this fails this most likely means the device is still in use by the
  application or a process of the application that you last accessed the
  CD/DVD with. Close the application if possible. If the application has
  crashed it is possible that the process accessing the device is still
  running in the background. Use ps to find the process and kill it.
  Cannot really give info on what to look for without further details.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: amaroK sound glitches

2007-06-01 Thread Martin Mielke
Hi,

nice to know that it also happens to someone else and not only to me... :o)

The curious thing is that this only happens on the desktop system I use at work 
but, let me knock on wood, not at home... where amaroK runs in all its glance 
(no extras turned off)

The problems appeared after some online update, IIRC... that's the only way I 
update/install things in that system: using 'smart'.

On monday I'll uninstall amaroK 1.4.5 and will revert to the version from the 
DVD... well, if you do it during the weekend and that fixes your problem please 
let me know :-)


Cheers,
Martin


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Sent: Friday, June 1, 2007 6:39:58 PM
Subject: [opensuse]  Re: amaroK sound glitches

Martin Mielke wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 for some reason I still haven't sorted out amaroK has started to put an
 annoying glitch while playing from any source (sound file, streams,
 CD/DVD...). It only lasts like 1 ms but it's disgusting...

Yup, same here. Isn't it annoying? I've minimized the problem by turning off
lots of the extras that come with it, like the lyrics download. I think it is
too busy doing other things, besides just playing music. But it still
happens.

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Re: [opensuse] updating problem (opensususeupdater)

2007-06-01 Thread JB2
On Thu 31 May 07 21:34, Registration Account wrote:
 Sorry Kenneth,

 It was not deliberate just and oops.

  What an ass. PLONK
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Re: [opensuse] updating problem (opensususeupdater)

2007-06-01 Thread JB2
On Thu 31 May 07 21:49, Randall R Schulz wrote:


  Off your meds again, RRS?  PLONK




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Re: [opensuse] updating problem (opensususeupdater)

2007-06-01 Thread JB2
On Fri 01 June 07 04:10, jdd wrote:
 G T Smith wrote:
  I think a little common sense is required here.

 top posting can be used if the previous message is only included for
 reference, but not needed to understand the answer. This should be
 done too often

  There's absolutely no need for it at all. If a reply is posted to a 
newsgroup or mailing list, said 'reference' is for *ALL* to see, not 
particularly one person. If one person wants to only see a top-posted 
'reference', he can ask to have it sent to his/her private e-mail. There's no 
need to make people who read normally...from top to bottom of a page...to be 
hindered with abnormal postings.
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Re: [opensuse] updating problem (opensususeupdater)

2007-06-01 Thread JB2
On Fri 01 June 07 04:15, Carlos E. R. wrote:
 The Thursday 2007-05-31 at 22:11 -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
  Please DO NOT top post.
  Please DO NOT top post.

 ¡PLEASE!

 This is MY thread. You haven't added any thing about my question. No need
 to tell people not to topost if you don't have anything else to say :-(

 You have just initiated a useless argument branch. :-/

  Not useless, since it's something other people might actually be reading and 
heeding also...not just you.
  There's 'bucking the system' and then there's just plain doing something 
that just doesn't work well just to annoy on purpose.
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Re: [opensuse] knetwork manager issues

2007-06-01 Thread JB2
On Fri 01 June 07 04:24, Sean Craig wrote:
 Hi Gordon,

 Are you using ndiswrapper to get your wireless card working?

 While I've never had NetworkManager quit on me, I do have the problem of
 NetworkManager not being able to 'configure device' (everything after
 that fails) if I don't login and let it connect immediately after the
 system is up.

  Please don't top-post.
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Re: [opensuse] knetwork manager issues

2007-06-01 Thread Mike
On Friday 01 June 2007 19:37, JB2 wrote:
 On
  problem of NetworkManager not being able to 'configure device'
  (everything after that fails) if I don't login and let it connect
  immediately after the system is up.

   Please don't top-post.

Is this all you have to say? You contribute absolutely nothing to the 
thread except this. It's a total waste of time. Unless you have 
something worthwhile to add why not just delete the offending message 
and press on? Is it that hard? 

Oh, never mind. I'll just add you back.. PLONK

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Re: [opensuse] amaroK sound glitches

2007-06-01 Thread Kai Ponte
On Fri, June 1, 2007 8:51 am, Martin Mielke wrote:
 Hi all,

 for some reason I still haven't sorted out amaroK has started to put
 an annoying glitch while playing from any source (sound file, streams,
 CD/DVD...). It only lasts like 1 ms but it's disgusting...

 I tried with some other players such as MPlayer or Exaile and they
 just work smoothly... so it must be an amaroK issue.

Stop downloading those h4xx0red filez from
Napster/Limewire/Audiogalaxy

:P



 I also reinstalled amaroK and the xine library but the problem still
 remains...

 The amaroK-related packages installed on my OpenSuSE 10.2:

 amarok-1.4.5-101.guru.suse102
 amarok-xine-1.4.5-101.guru.suse102
 libxine1-1.1.6-0.pm.0

Have you tried the same with other engines - helix for example?  Also,
what is your processor and memory?

I've got Clan of Xymox playing right now on 1.4.5 with the same
versions of xine. It has been playing a list continually since about
6:00 this morning (four hours) without a noticeable glitch.  Next up
is Camper Van Beethoven...

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Re: [opensuse] updating problem (opensususeupdater)

2007-06-01 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Friday 01 June 2007 10:26, JB2 wrote:
 On Thu 31 May 07 21:49, Randall R Schulz wrote:


   Off your meds again, RRS?  PLONK

At last.

Thank you!


RRS
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Re: [opensuse] updating problem (opensususeupdater)

2007-06-01 Thread Mike
On Friday 01 June 2007 19:26, JB2 wrote:
 On Thu 31 May 07 21:49, Randall R Schulz wrote:


   Off your meds again, RRS?  PLONK

Pot -- Kettle -- Black? Get a grip. 

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Re: [opensuse] Adding an installation source to YaST (SUSE 10.0 AMD64 x 2)

2007-06-01 Thread Peter Bradley

Ysgrifennodd Registration Account:

Peter, just to start with I would remove all the
duplicated identical data sources.

Then type the data source in your browser and make sure
 you get a directory/file listing in reply.

Lets us all know what happens after this
Scott

  

Hi Scott,

Thanks a lot for the reply.  I've removed the urls from YaST.  I'd 
already done that, in fact, since they obviously weren't doing any good. 

Strangely, the given url points to the download page on the go-mono 
website.  Here's what the page says:


quote

This distro supports installing packages via YaST. Add the following 
installation source to YaST:


   * http://go-mono.com/download-stable/suse-100-x86_64

For assistance with using repositories and installing packages with 
YaST, visit this link: [1] 
http://en.opensuse.org/Add_Package_Repositories_to_YaST



/quote

In other words, the url appears to be self-referential.  Can that be 
right?  If it is a directory listing, it's a very nicely formatted one!


The assistance link is just a pointer to a wiki page about adding 
references to YaST: but it talks about things like Zypper, which - as 
far as I can see - is not available for 10.0



Peter

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Re: [opensuse] knetwork manager issues

2007-06-01 Thread Kai Ponte
You need to stop mooching of your neighbor's wifi network.  :P

Hey, look, I'm top posting...

j/k


On Fri, June 1, 2007 4:56 am, Will Stephenson wrote:
 On Thursday 31 May 2007 23:39:21 Gordon J. Holtslander wrote:
 I have a laptop hp nx 7300.

 If  I leave the system running for more than a few hours the
 networkmanager
 program quits running and can't be restarted.  I use it to manage
 the
 wireless networking on this system

 If I stop the network manager program and restart, I am returned a
 message
 that the network manager is not running.  It does not appear to be
 possible
 to restart the network manager.

 In order to re establish a wireless network connection I am forced
 to
 restart the computer.

 Any way around this?  I have the wireless card setup to be managed
 as a
 regular user with networkmanager.

 It shouldn't crash.  Post a bug report (bugzilla.novell.com) and
 include /var/log/NetworkManager - this should show the daemon's crash
 backtrace.

 'rcnetwork restart' should restart the daemon, if not, please also
 indicate
 which part of the logfile is you trying to restart it.


Just out of curiosity, do you have the Intel 3945 Pro 802.11 card?

If so, you might look into downloading the updated driver from Intel.

http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/

Try that and see if it solves your problem.  My guess would be that
networkmanager is losing connection with the driver somehow.

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Re: [opensuse] amaroK sound glitches

2007-06-01 Thread Martin Mielke
Hi,

well, I don't download from those P2P networks... all my music comes from 
original CDs :-P

No, by now I only use xine, which has been performing perfectly some days ago 
on the desktop at work... that one is a Pentium dual-core with 4 GB RAM... I 
guess it's more that enough to play music... :-)

Again, as for the engine... I almost can foresee that helix won't help me out 
either because, as I said, I can play files or streams perfectly using MPlayer, 
for example... Anyway, I'll give it a try...

I'll keep you posted.


Martin



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From: Kai Ponte [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: opensuse@opensuse.org
Sent: Friday, June 1, 2007 7:45:57 PM
Subject: Re: [opensuse] amaroK sound glitches

On Fri, June 1, 2007 8:51 am, Martin Mielke wrote:
 Hi all,

 for some reason I still haven't sorted out amaroK has started to put
 an annoying glitch while playing from any source (sound file, streams,
 CD/DVD...). It only lasts like 1 ms but it's disgusting...

 I tried with some other players such as MPlayer or Exaile and they
 just work smoothly... so it must be an amaroK issue.

Stop downloading those h4xx0red filez from
Napster/Limewire/Audiogalaxy

:P



 I also reinstalled amaroK and the xine library but the problem still
 remains...

 The amaroK-related packages installed on my OpenSuSE 10.2:

 amarok-1.4.5-101.guru.suse102
 amarok-xine-1.4.5-101.guru.suse102
 libxine1-1.1.6-0.pm.0

Have you tried the same with other engines - helix for example?  Also,
what is your processor and memory?

I've got Clan of Xymox playing right now on 1.4.5 with the same
versions of xine. It has been playing a list continually since about
6:00 this morning (four hours) without a noticeable glitch.  Next up
is Camper Van Beethoven...

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[opensuse] KDE doesn't after new Install

2007-06-01 Thread James D. Parra
Hello,

Rebuilt a workstation where the user's home dir is on network mount point.
Old install was running Suse 9.1 and the new install is 10.0. When KDE is
started from the GUI login, or startx from the command line, the following
error occurs;

snip
There was an error setting up inter-process communications for KDE. The
message returned to the system was;
Could not read network connection list
/home/user/.DCOPserver_linux_0
Please check that dcopserver is running.
snip

Issuing 'dcopserver' from the command line doesn't fix the problem. 

I imagine I need to remove old KDE settings from the user's home directory,
but I am not sure which. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks,

James 
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[opensuse] KDE doesn't start after new Install

2007-06-01 Thread James D. Parra
Hello,

Rebuilt a workstation where the user's home dir is on network mount point.
Old install was running Suse 9.1 and the new install is 10.0. When KDE is
started from the GUI login, or startx from the command line, the following
error occurs;

snip
There was an error setting up inter-process communications for KDE. The
message returned to the system was;
Could not read network connection list
/home/user/.DCOPserver_linux_0
Please check that dcopserver is running.
snip

Issuing 'dcopserver' from the command line doesn't fix the problem. 

I imagine I need to remove old KDE settings from the user's home directory,
but I am not sure which. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks,

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Re: [opensuse] KDE doesn't start after new Install

2007-06-01 Thread Darryl Gregorash
On 2007-06-01 12:42, James D. Parra wrote:
 Hello,

 Rebuilt a workstation where the user's home dir is on network mount point.
 Old install was running Suse 9.1 and the new install is 10.0. When KDE is
 started from the GUI login, or startx from the command line, the following
 error occurs;

 snip
 There was an error setting up inter-process communications for KDE. The
 message returned to the system was;
 Could not read network connection list
 /home/user/.DCOPserver_linux_0
 Please check that dcopserver is running.
 snip

 Issuing 'dcopserver' from the command line doesn't fix the problem. 

 I imagine I need to remove old KDE settings from the user's home directory,
 but I am not sure which. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 Many thanks,

 James 
   
The thread titled DCOP error started May 24 may apply to your
situation. Check ~/.ICEauthority and if necessary, chown from root:root
to username:users.

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Re: [opensuse] using ~/Mail (was: Best way to copy mail (kmail))

2007-06-01 Thread Guillaume R.
* Constant Brouerius van Nidek [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-06-01 21:55:40]:

 On Tuesday 01 May 2007, Carlos F Lange wrote:
  using ~/Mail (was: Best way to copy mail (kmail))
 
 Dear Carlos,
 Liked the idea of a visible Mail directory but had no time to work on it.
 Finilly I have tried to move my kmail directory to a newly made   
 
 ~/Mail directory but that does not seem to work.
 Could you give some hints how to move my mails to the new directory?
In general when I copy my backup mail to a new installation, I've type 
something like:
cp /media/usbdisk/Mail /my_new_mail_directory.
Then I simply open my usual mailer (mutt) with the correct option to handle 
(set spoolfile iirc).
You should have such options under Kmail shouldn't you?
Guillaume
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Re: [opensuse] knetwork manager issues

2007-06-01 Thread Sean Craig
and why not?
 
Regards

Sean


JB2 wrote:
 On Fri 01 June 07 04:24, Sean Craig wrote:
   
 Hi Gordon,

 Are you using ndiswrapper to get your wireless card working?

 While I've never had NetworkManager quit on me, I do have the problem of
 NetworkManager not being able to 'configure device' (everything after
 that fails) if I don't login and let it connect immediately after the
 system is up.
 

   Please don't top-post.
   
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[opensuse] copying CD--more

2007-06-01 Thread Doug McGarrett

I suppose I broke the thread, but I have no choice--the Linux
machine is apart, and I have to write in Windows.

I put the new writer drive in the machine, but I probably don't
have the master/slave thing set right.  The original, read-only
drive has S L A available, and is jumper-set on A.

The new writable drive has S L A, and also says
S is cable select, L is slave, and A is master.
It is jumper-set on L.

It also says that C
   S is cable select

  S
  L is slave

and   M
   A is master

So it looks like it is set up correctly, but,
the system does not seem to recognize the new drive.

The cable for the original drive has another connector on it,
which I plugged into the new drive.

What now?  Do I need some kind of install routine? I thought that the 
system would automatically recognize

new hardware.  (SuSE 9.3.)

(BTW--thanx to the folks who pointed me to K3B.  I didn't know
it was there.  Now to get to use it)

TIA--doug
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[opensuse] Speed up images printing

2007-06-01 Thread Lívio Cipriano
I'm using openSUSE 10.2 and KDE 3.5.5

When I print some text, it's quick, but when I print some image (jpeg, tiff, 
gif, etc.) it takes several eternal minutes, sometimes hours.

Right now, I'm printing a 317Kb image that runs for at least 10 min and it's 
not finish. Can I do something to improve the printing speed?

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[opensuse] Re: amaroK sound glitches

2007-06-01 Thread Jonathan Arnold
Martin Mielke wrote:
 Hi,
 
 well, I don't download from those P2P networks... all my music comes from 
 original CDs :-P
 
 No, by now I only use xine, which has been performing perfectly some days ago 
 on the desktop at work... that one is a Pentium dual-core with 4 GB RAM... I 
 guess it's more that enough to play music... :-)
 
 Again, as for the engine... I almost can foresee that helix won't help me out 
 either because, as I said, I can play files or streams perfectly using 
 MPlayer, for example... Anyway, I'll give it a try...

Actually, for me Helix works just fine. I'm pretty sure my problem (just cutouts
in a playing CD) are due to only 1gb of RAM and amaroK trying to do too much
with too little.

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Re: [opensuse] copying CD--more

2007-06-01 Thread Sunny

On 6/1/07, Doug McGarrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I suppose I broke the thread, but I have no choice--the Linux
machine is apart, and I have to write in Windows.

I put the new writer drive in the machine, but I probably don't
have the master/slave thing set right.  The original, read-only
drive has S L A available, and is jumper-set on A.

The new writable drive has S L A, and also says
S is cable select, L is slave, and A is master.
It is jumper-set on L.

It also says that C
S is cable select

   S
   L is slave

and   M
A is master

So it looks like it is set up correctly, but,
the system does not seem to recognize the new drive.

The cable for the original drive has another connector on it,
which I plugged into the new drive.

What now?  Do I need some kind of install routine? I thought that the
system would automatically recognize
new hardware.  (SuSE 9.3.)

(BTW--thanx to the folks who pointed me to K3B.  I didn't know
it was there.  Now to get to use it)



Can you see the drive in the BIOS? If the problem is with the jumpers,
you will not see it. Try different positions until you see the drive
in the BIOS.

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Re: [opensuse] Speed up images printing

2007-06-01 Thread Sunny

On 6/1/07, Lívio Cipriano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm using openSUSE 10.2 and KDE 3.5.5

When I print some text, it's quick, but when I print some image (jpeg, tiff,
gif, etc.) it takes several eternal minutes, sometimes hours.

Right now, I'm printing a 317Kb image that runs for at least 10 min and it's
not finish. Can I do something to improve the printing speed?



What program you print from? What kind of printer you have? How is it setup?

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Re: [opensuse] updating problem (opensususeupdater)

2007-06-01 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Friday 2007-06-01 at 12:34 -0500, JB2 wrote:

  You have just initiated a useless argument branch. :-/
 
   Not useless, since it's something other people might actually be reading 
 and 
 heeding also...not just you.

No, this is my thread and my question. I'm asking about a precise problem 
with opensususeupdater, and I'm not interested in a useless branch about 
top-posting. That top-posted message was an answer to my problem, and it 
would be me who could have complained and I didn't.

To be fair, the person involved already apologized to me in private.

So, please you all, stop talking in this thread except about the precise 
topic of this thread, or take it to the off-topic list.

Already a dozen useless messages that don't say anything about 
opensususeupdater...

:-/

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Re: [opensuse] copying CD--more

2007-06-01 Thread jdd

Doug McGarrett wrote:


The new writable drive has S L A, and also says
S is cable select, L is slave, and A is master.
It is jumper-set on L.


I think you misread the drive. It should read:

CSM
SLA
...
...

but you must read vertically:

CS (cable select, avoid it)
SL slave
MA master

CSM
SLA
...
 |-for slave jumper (middle)
...

one disk have to be master and the other slave

if your drives are ide, no specuil thing is needed

the drives are showed at boot time

first master /dev/hda
first slave /dev/hdb
second master /dev/hdc
second slave /dev/hdd

jdd

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[opensuse] Finally Frustrated enough about Mouse Clicks...

2007-06-01 Thread Michael Letourneau
I am finally to the frustration point on this so I figured I would throw
this out in case anyone has run across this and has something I have not
tried.

I have MS IntelliMouse Explorer USB optical mouse.  Which essentially
works fine, pretty much.  The only issue I have is that single clicks keep
showing up as double clicks.  Which when you are in email clicking to
delete something can mean you end up deleting more than you wanted.  Or
other rather annoying things.  I get this whether I am using KDE or Xfce. 
I have tried both their tools for changing the double click speed, with no
luck.  What is more, is that it seems to relate to how long my system has
been up.  When I first boot up and log in, it might happen occasionally,
after a week of uptime, practically every click comes through as a double
click.

I am not sure if there is any way to adjust this in the xorg.conf, or
somewhere else.  I have seen this in 10.0, 10.1 and 10.2.  I am currently
using 10.2, and as I said both XFCE and KDE exhibit the problem.

I believe because it happens in both XFCE and KDE that its X related, also
when I use x11vnc to come in, the mouse behaves fine, single clicks are
single clicks.

Any thoughts, or other tools to try?

Michael

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[opensuse] presentation to show linux

2007-06-01 Thread Joe Zien

I belong to a computer club that is 98% window$ and want to show
the advantages of linux. What I need is a Impress or Powerpoint 
presentation to

introduce users to linux.
I tried google but didn't find a good presentation, perhaps someone in
this forum has some suggestions.

TIA

jozien
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Re: [opensuse] Finally Frustrated enough about Mouse Clicks...

2007-06-01 Thread Hans Krueger
Michael Letourneau wrote:
 I am finally to the frustration point on this so I figured I would throw
 this out in case anyone has run across this and has something I have not
 tried.

 I have MS IntelliMouse Explorer USB optical mouse.  Which essentially
 works fine, pretty much.  The only issue I have is that single clicks keep
 showing up as double clicks.  Which when you are in email clicking to
 delete something can mean you end up deleting more than you wanted.  Or
 other rather annoying things.  I get this whether I am using KDE or Xfce. 
 I have tried both their tools for changing the double click speed, with no
 luck.  What is more, is that it seems to relate to how long my system has
 been up.  When I first boot up and log in, it might happen occasionally,
 after a week of uptime, practically every click comes through as a double
 click.

 I am not sure if there is any way to adjust this in the xorg.conf, or
 somewhere else.  I have seen this in 10.0, 10.1 and 10.2.  I am currently
 using 10.2, and as I said both XFCE and KDE exhibit the problem.

 I believe because it happens in both XFCE and KDE that its X related, also
 when I use x11vnc to come in, the mouse behaves fine, single clicks are
 single clicks.

 Any thoughts, or other tools to try?

 Michael

   
I had that once replaced the mouse fixed it

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Re: [opensuse] presentation to show linux

2007-06-01 Thread Kai Ponte
On Fri, June 1, 2007 1:32 pm, Joe Zien wrote:
 I belong to a computer club that is 98% window$ and want to show
 the advantages of linux. What I need is a Impress or Powerpoint
 presentation to
 introduce users to linux.
 I tried google but didn't find a good presentation, perhaps someone in
 this forum has some suggestions.


Just fire up the Matrix screen saver, sit back and relax.

Seriously, if you can't find one, make it. If you can, do it in
impress and use your system to display it. (Or at least export it to
flash.)

You simply need to tell them what linux is, where it came from and why
it is beneficial to use. You might include virus stats, usability
stats, costs and - of course - LBreakout/Planet Penguin Racer.





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Re: [opensuse] copying CD--more

2007-06-01 Thread S Glasoe
On Friday June 1 2007 3:12:05 pm jdd wrote:
 Doug McGarrett wrote:
  The new writable drive has S L A, and also says
  S is cable select, L is slave, and A is master.
  It is jumper-set on L.

 I think you misread the drive. It should read:

 CSM
 SLA

 but you must read vertically:

 CS (cable select, avoid it)
 SL slave
 MA master


I have found that Cable Select (CS) vs. Master (MA)/Slave(SL) is very IDE 
controller and/or system BIOS dependent. Some systems won't work w/o all 
devices set CS. Others won't work w/o all devices set as MA/SL. Sometimes 
they work either way but performance obviously favors one over the other. 
Only way to know is to start from factory settings and 'ass-u-me' they may 
have known what they were doing... If all esle fails, try the opposite. 
Salvalged many a broken system/device from almost every brand-name 
manufacturer this way as well as white-box systems.
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Re: [opensuse] presentation to show linux

2007-06-01 Thread Richard Bos
Op Friday 01 June 2007 22:54:49 schreef Kai Ponte:
 Just fire up the Matrix screen saver, sit back and relax.

 Seriously, if you can't find one, make it. If you can, do it in
 impress and use your system to display it. (Or at least export it to
 flash.)

Or just fire up knoppix with 3D beryl support including rotating cube, burning 
windows and run your presentation with impress from knoppix.  Use one of the 
windows machines that your computer club has :))

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[opensuse] Revolution in networking - possible ?

2007-06-01 Thread Alexey Eremenko

hi all !

Few days ago I was at Cisco Expo 2007 in Israel, and came across truly
revolutionary technology demo: WAAS.
This technology is able to locally intercept and ack TCP-sessions as
well as do application-layer-specific optimizations, and the
performance win was HUGE - something like 10x-20x fold win ! ! !

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/app_ntwk_services/waas/waas/v401/configuration/guide/intro.html#wp1055743
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6870/index.html

This results in downloading multi-megabyte files over the Internet in
just few seconds ! (instead of minutes). I was totally shocked when I
saw this in action.

Unfortunately, Cisco and their pricing are out-of-reach for home users.

Is there anything Open-Source on Linux that have similar functionality ?

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Re: [opensuse] Revolution in networking - possible ?

2007-06-01 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Friday 01 June 2007 14:16, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
 hi all !

 Few days ago I was at Cisco Expo 2007 in Israel, and came across
 truly revolutionary technology demo: WAAS.

Someone should have told them about GPS. But then, TLAs are highly 
overloaded, there's little reason four-letter ones won't be, too.


 ...

 Unfortunately, Cisco and their pricing are out-of-reach for home
 users.

 Is there anything Open-Source on Linux that have similar
 functionality ?

Squid?

http://www.squid-cache.org/


 -Alexey Eremenko Technologov


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Re: [opensuse] presentation to show linux

2007-06-01 Thread Alexey Eremenko

There is a video in existence: Revolution OS.


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Re: [opensuse] Revolution in networking - possible ?

2007-06-01 Thread Alexey Eremenko

 Is there anything Open-Source on Linux that have similar
 functionality ?


Randall Schulz wrote:

Squid?

http://www.squid-cache.org/


AFAIK, Squid can only accelerate something if it's cached, that is,
was downloaded once.
while WAAS accelerate both cached and non-cached data.

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Re: [opensuse] Revolution in networking - possible ?

2007-06-01 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 12:16:31AM +0300, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
 hi all !
 
 Few days ago I was at Cisco Expo 2007 in Israel, and came across truly
 revolutionary technology demo: WAAS.
 This technology is able to locally intercept and ack TCP-sessions as
 well as do application-layer-specific optimizations, and the
 performance win was HUGE - something like 10x-20x fold win ! ! !
 
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/app_ntwk_services/waas/waas/v401/configuration/guide/intro.html#wp1055743
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6870/index.html
 
 This results in downloading multi-megabyte files over the Internet in
 just few seconds ! (instead of minutes). I was totally shocked when I
 saw this in action.
 
 Unfortunately, Cisco and their pricing are out-of-reach for home users.
 
 Is there anything Open-Source on Linux that have similar functionality ?

Looks much like what a transparent proxy setup using Squid could do.

(Where squid would retrieve the remote data using compression, even if
the client did not ask for compression.)

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Re: [opensuse] Speed up images printing

2007-06-01 Thread Lívio Cipriano
On 1 June 2007 20:48, Sunny wrote:
 What program you print from?

I'm printing from KDE. The 370Kb image was printed from Konqueror.

 What kind of printer you have?

It's an HP LaserJet 5MP, it's an PostScript 2 printer

 How is it  
 setup?

I just configure CUPS with 2 queues : one as a raw printer, no filtering, and 
another as an HP LaserJet 5MP with the manufacture PPD.

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Re: [opensuse] Revolution in networking - possible ?

2007-06-01 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Friday 01 June 2007 14:37, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
   Is there anything Open-Source on Linux that have similar
   functionality ?

  Randall Schulz wrote:
  Squid?
 
  http://www.squid-cache.org/

 AFAIK, Squid can only accelerate something if it's cached, that is,
 was downloaded once.while WAAS accelerate both cached and non-cached
 data. 

I'd characterize that as similar functionality.

Besides, I find it hard to believe it can speed-up the retrieval of 
something it doesn't have immediately available to serve locally. Even 
if it has something to do with the selective compression, that's only 
going to increase latency on the initial fetch and without a large 
population of users behind the device to amortize the costs it imposes, 
there's less potential for overall improvement.


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Re: [opensuse] Revolution in networking - possible ?

2007-06-01 Thread Alexey Eremenko

I'd characterize that as similar functionality.

Besides, I find it hard to believe it can speed-up the retrieval of
something it doesn't have immediately available to serve locally. Even
if it has something to do with the selective compression, that's only
going to increase latency on the initial fetch and without a large
population of users behind the device to amortize the costs it imposes,
there's less potential for overall improvement.



But it works ! Non-cached data flows very fast with WAAS.
WAAS also has good optimization for SMB protocol. What about Squid ?

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[opensuse] KWeather Font

2007-06-01 Thread Kai Ponte
I would like to change the font on KWeather. However, it doesn't
appear to be easy. I did google and found at least this recent post...

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=446241

..which seems to indicate I can't.

I don't appreciate that answer. Too limiting.  Too much like wintendo.

Any ideas on how I can do it? I want the font to be white. I'm
changing my KDE background to be black with a transparent kicker. I
want all fonts to be white. So far, I've changed the desktop icons and
the time/date.  Now I need kweather and the kicker icons.

Here's an example of what it should look like - except for the debian
thingy. I don't know Debbie or Ian, so don't want to use that.

http://i9.tinypic.com/68jhszn.png

I also really like her menu, which is a far-cry more cool than mine...

http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/2007/20070601_suse_menu.jpg

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Re: [opensuse] Revolution in networking - possible ?

2007-06-01 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Friday 01 June 2007 15:22, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
  I'd characterize that as similar functionality.
 
  Besides, I find it hard to believe it can speed-up the retrieval of
  something it doesn't have immediately available to serve locally.
  Even if it has something to do with the selective compression,
  that's only going to increase latency on the initial fetch and
  without a large population of users behind the device to amortize
  the costs it imposes, there's less potential for overall
  improvement.

 But it works!

You saw a carefully crafted demo. Don't assume you'd see similar 
performance in a real-world situation.

You know what they say: Your Mileage May Vary (YMMV)


 Non-cached data flows very fast with WAAS. 
 WAAS also has good optimization for SMB protocol. What about Squid ?

Don't ask me. I've never used it.

http://www.squid-cache.org/
http://www.google.com/


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Re: [opensuse] Speed up images printing

2007-06-01 Thread Carlos E. R.
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 On 1 June 2007 20:48, Sunny wrote:
  What program you print from?
 
 I'm printing from KDE. The 370Kb image was printed from Konqueror.

Then try printing from another app, for instance, OpenOffice, the same 
image. What is important is the number of pixels and the colour depth, not 
the size in bytes, by the way.


  What kind of printer you have?
 
 It's an HP LaserJet 5MP, it's an PostScript 2 printer
 
  How is it setup?
 
 I just configure CUPS with 2 queues : one as a raw printer, no filtering, and 
 another as an HP LaserJet 5MP with the manufacture PPD.

And how is it connected, physically?

How much memory do you have?

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Re: [opensuse] Finally Frustrated enough about Mouse Clicks...

2007-06-01 Thread Michael Letourneau
Hans Krueger wrote:
 Michael Letourneau wrote:
   
 [snip]
 I believe because it happens in both XFCE and KDE that its X related, also
 when I use x11vnc to come in, the mouse behaves fine, single clicks are
 single clicks.

 Any thoughts, or other tools to try?

 Michael

   
 
 I had that once replaced the mouse fixed it

   
Well I did not think it was the mouse, as when I used to use Windows, I
would never experience the issue, even after a couple days uptime. 
Granted I have not been in Windows in ages, so I suppose that could be it...

Thanks...

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Re: [opensuse] Revolution in networking - possible ?

2007-06-01 Thread James Knott
Alexey Eremenko wrote:
 hi all !

 Few days ago I was at Cisco Expo 2007 in Israel, and came across truly
 revolutionary technology demo: WAAS.
 This technology is able to locally intercept and ack TCP-sessions as
 well as do application-layer-specific optimizations, and the
 performance win was HUGE - something like 10x-20x fold win ! ! !

 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/app_ntwk_services/waas/waas/v401/configuration/guide/intro.html#wp1055743

 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6870/index.html

 This results in downloading multi-megabyte files over the Internet in
 just few seconds ! (instead of minutes). I was totally shocked when I
 saw this in action.

 Unfortunately, Cisco and their pricing are out-of-reach for home users.

 Is there anything Open-Source on Linux that have similar functionality ?

I didn't see any claims in there about improving file transfers, only
about combining techniques to improve efficiency.  One thing you have to
bear in mind is that any channel has some fixed bandwidth limit, which
cannot be exceeded.  You can apply various tricks, such as compression
etc., to improve data through put, but sooner or later you're going to
hit that bandwidth limit.  So, if you took data, with a lot of
redundancy, you could compress it to a small fraction of it's size,
transmit it and then uncompress at far end.  This would give the
appearance of having transmitted far more data, but in fact, you've only
reduced the amout of data that had to be transmitted.  This is a common,
everyday function in modems, cell phones, image files and many, many
other examples.  Back in the dialup modem days, a common technique was
Van Jacobson compression, where the headers were reduced, be elimiating
redundant data.  So, no you will not be able to download a huge file, in
a short time, unless it has a lot of redundant info.


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Re: [opensuse] Finally Frustrated enough about Mouse Clicks...

2007-06-01 Thread Sunny

On 6/1/07, Michael Letourneau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Well I did not think it was the mouse, as when I used to use Windows, I
would never experience the issue, even after a couple days uptime.
Granted I have not been in Windows in ages, so I suppose that could be it...

Thanks...

Michael


Why don't you try some live distro like knoppix, then you will know if
this is opensuse problem or something else.

You may try as well some older version of knoppix, with older xord (or
even X11) to test.

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Re: [opensuse] Finally Frustrated enough about Mouse Clicks...

2007-06-01 Thread Jose Thadeu Cavalcante
On Friday 01 June 2007, Michael Letourneau wrote:
 I am finally to the frustration point on this so I figured I would throw
 this out in case anyone has run across this and has something I have not
 tried.

 I have MS IntelliMouse Explorer USB optical mouse.  Which essentially
 works fine, pretty much.  The only issue I have is that single clicks keep
 showing up as double clicks.  Which when you are in email clicking to
 delete something can mean you end up deleting more than you wanted.  Or
 other rather annoying things.  I get this whether I am using KDE or Xfce.
 I have tried both their tools for changing the double click speed, with no
 luck.  What is more, is that it seems to relate to how long my system has
 been up.  When I first boot up and log in, it might happen occasionally,
 after a week of uptime, practically every click comes through as a double
 click.

 I am not sure if there is any way to adjust this in the xorg.conf, or
 somewhere else.  I have seen this in 10.0, 10.1 and 10.2.  I am currently
 using 10.2, and as I said both XFCE and KDE exhibit the problem.

 I believe because it happens in both XFCE and KDE that its X related, also
 when I use x11vnc to come in, the mouse behaves fine, single clicks are
 single clicks.

 Any thoughts, or other tools to try?

 Michael

Hi,

I think that you are using the KDE default mouse click action, the single 
click, is to open files/directories. To change this default action go to 
Personal Settings/Peripherals/Mouse and change the option in the frame Icons 
to Double-click to open files and folders (select icons on first click).

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Re: [opensuse] Revolution in networking - possible ?

2007-06-01 Thread Rajko M.
On Friday 01 June 2007 17:36, Randall R Schulz wrote:
 You saw a carefully crafted demo. Don't assume you'd see similar
 performance in a real-world situation.

 You know what they say: Your Mileage May Vary (YMMV)

  Non-cached data flows very fast with WAAS.

Taking speedup of 10x it is probably text compressed on the fly. 
Linux can do that see 
   http://rute.2038bug.com/


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Re: [opensuse] Finally Frustrated enough about Mouse Clicks...

2007-06-01 Thread Darryl Gregorash
On 2007-06-01 18:12, Sunny wrote:
 On 6/1/07, Michael Letourneau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well I did not think it was the mouse, as when I used to use Windows, I
 would never experience the issue, even after a couple days uptime.
 Granted I have not been in Windows in ages, so I suppose that could
 be it...

 Thanks...

 Michael

 Why don't you try some live distro like knoppix, then you will know if
 this is opensuse problem or something else.

 You may try as well some older version of knoppix, with older xord (or
 even X11) to test.

I agree with Hans.. it's the mouse. Remember those things are just a
piece of plastic clicking against another piece of plastic. And it isn't
even a decent quality plastic.

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Re: [opensuse] Revolution in networking - possible ?

2007-06-01 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Friday 01 June 2007 17:47, Rajko M. wrote:
 On Friday 01 June 2007 17:36, Randall R Schulz wrote:
  You saw a carefully crafted demo. Don't assume you'd see similar
  performance in a real-world situation.
 
  You know what they say: Your Mileage May Vary (YMMV)
 
   Non-cached data flows very fast with WAAS.

 Taking speedup of 10x it is probably text compressed on the fly.
 Linux can do that see
http://rute.2038bug.com/

Given the types of data that currently comprise the bulk of WWW traffic, 
only the markup formats, principally HTML or XHTML and the occasional 
XML document themselves, bear much compression. All the other formats, 
images, audio, Flash, archive files, etc. are already well compressed. 
I suppose once SVG becomes common, it might benefit from compression, 
too (it's an XML format).

This same approach has been taken by some ISPs. You install some 
proprietary (usually Windows-only) software and by then funneling all 
your traffic through their proxy servers, they can cache and compress 
the select objects. They've mostly been hype-heavy, and have not, to my 
knowledge, seen widespread adoption.


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Re: [opensuse] Revolution in networking - possible ?

2007-06-01 Thread Rajko M.
On Friday 01 June 2007 20:03, Randall R Schulz wrote:
 On Friday 01 June 2007 17:47, Rajko M. wrote:
  On Friday 01 June 2007 17:36, Randall R Schulz wrote:
   You saw a carefully crafted demo. Don't assume you'd see similar
   performance in a real-world situation.
  
   You know what they say: Your Mileage May Vary (YMMV)
  
Non-cached data flows very fast with WAAS.
 
  Taking speedup of 10x it is probably text compressed on the fly.
  Linux can do that see
 http://rute.2038bug.com/

 Given the types of data that currently comprise the bulk of WWW traffic,
 only the markup formats, principally HTML or XHTML and the occasional
 XML document themselves, bear much compression. All the other formats,
 images, audio, Flash, archive files, etc. are already well compressed.
 I suppose once SVG becomes common, it might benefit from compression,
 too (it's an XML format).

 This same approach has been taken by some ISPs. You install some
 proprietary (usually Windows-only) software and by then funneling all
 your traffic through their proxy servers, they can cache and compress
 the select objects. They've mostly been hype-heavy, and have not, to my
 knowledge, seen widespread adoption.

Agree. I got few questions about accelerated option and advice was not to buy. 
Once page is downloaded it will be used from cache and there will be no 
difference except in the wallet :-)

The above was example how it may work, and it was selected intentionally to 
show speed. It is mostly html/text and idea came from your comment specially 
crafted :-) . There is no non-compressed version that we can compare with, 
but there is a lot of similar pages that can be used for that purpose. 

I can't barely see difference on pretty good sized broadband, but someone on 
dialup should see substantial difference to similar pages, and the most 
important with Linux you don't need external software. 

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Re: [opensuse] Revolution in networking - possible ?

2007-06-01 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Friday 01 June 2007 18:57, Rajko M. wrote:
 ...

 I can't barely see difference on pretty good sized broadband, but
 someone on dialup should see substantial difference to similar pages,
 and the most important with Linux you don't need external software.

It was definitely a dial-up-only service. As broadband adoption 
increases, this optimization, to the extent it ever was a genuine 
optimization, will fade away.


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[opensuse] tightvnc version

2007-06-01 Thread M Harris
Which version of tightvnc shipped with 10.2?   


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[now OT] Re: [opensuse] knetwork manager issues

2007-06-01 Thread Sean Craig
Wow, you are a rude little boy!  Is that really the best you can come up
with!  Swearing only serves to debase your argument.  Oh, wait, you
don't have one!  And you don't have the stones to air your opinion on
the list.

I really do think that the self-appointed List Police need to give it a
rest.  If you want to do something your way, then that's OK, but I still
want to do things MY way!

I have participated in a number of Linux-related lists, and the
'my-way-or-the-highway' attitude dished-out by a number of participants
on this list is appalling!  New users come here for help, but won't
bother if they get assaulted for every post.

Once upon a time there was a guy who believed that he knew how people
wanted to use computers.  He believed that everybody should use a
computer the way HE wanted to use HIS computer.  His name was Bill, and
the result was Windows.  Unfortunately for Bill, and fortunately for us,
we have a choice.  I use Linux.  I use the computer just the way I want to.

Regards

Sean


JB wrote:
 On Fri 01 June 07 13:58, Sean Craig wrote:
   
 and why not?
 

   Fucktard. PLONK
   

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[opensuse] Thunderbird 2.0 and Reply to List

2007-06-01 Thread Joe Morris (NTM)
I've been waiting for an update for a few weeks, but nothing yet (I
didn't report anything because I thought it would be obvious).  Is
anyone else using Thunderbird 2.0 from the build service and the Reply
to List extension?  It worked on the beta and rc builds, but not on the
final.  Usually it is some Enigmail problem, and usually it is fixed
within a few days, but not this time.  Is it working for anyone?  It was
a very nice feature for mailing lists.  Just to make sure it is a
problem with the package and not just a local problem.

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[opensuse] Assembly Language program

2007-06-01 Thread azeem ahmad

hi list
i am about to make a bootable floppy for test
but i am being unable to get it done
please review the code below and tell me if there is any problem with it
--
.code16 #assembler directive to start 16-bit real mode for execution
.text /*assembler directive to tell the start of 'read-only'
code segment*/
.org 0x00 /*assembler directive to set the origon to sector 0
needed to copy the program to the very first sector
of the floppy disk*/

.global _start /*assembler directive to export the start section to
all other programs, i.e. to make it visible to programs
like linker or other user programs*/

_start: #label of the start routine
mov 0x07C0, %ax /*move immidiate operand 07C0 to the
accumulator register ax, so that it can be
transfered to data segment register*/
mov %ax, %ds /*move contents of register ax to register ds*/
call _boot #call the boot section
ret #return the control to the caller routine

_boot: #label of the boot section
mov $msg, %si /*move the address of the character string
constant 'msg' to the source index register*/
call _disp #call subroutine disp
ret #return the control to the caller routine

_disp: #label of the disp routine
cld /*clear direction flag, to permit string
instructions to increment index registers
by their own*/
lodsb /*load the string pointed by ds:si in a
byte by byte manner into the accumulator*/
or %al, %al /*check if the entire string has been loaded
byte-wise by oring al to al, if the result is
zero, it shows there are no more byte to load*/
jz ret #jump if al zero to return
mov $0xE, %ah /*else put code for 'write a character on the
screen and move forward' into the ah*/
mov $7, %bh /*enable normal attribute for all the blank
lines on the screen*/
int $0x10 /*call interupt 0x10, which is responsible
for the video display, it will take codes
from ah and bh*/
jmp _disp

msg: #label of the string definition
.ascii My Boot System #definition of the string

.org 510 #set origon to 510
.word 0xAA55 #
--

saved the file with the name myos.s
then

#as myos.s -o myos.o
#objcopy -O binary myos.o BOOT
#dd if=./BOOT of=/dev/fd0 bs=512 count=1
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the system tries to boot from the floppy and it boots (as it doesnt give an 
error or it doesnt go to the next boot device. but it doesnt display the 
string that i had to show from the string


please check it and tell me about any possible errors in the code

Regards
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Re: [opensuse] presentation to show linux

2007-06-01 Thread CyberOrg

On 6/2/07, Joe Zien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I belong to a computer club that is 98% window$ and want to show
the advantages of linux. What I need is a Impress or Powerpoint
presentation to introduce users to linux.


http://groups.google.com/group/VGLUG/web/L101A+-+Linux+Background+v3.pdf

There are couple of other presentations there in 'files' section :

http://groups.google.com/group/VGLUG

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Re: [opensuse] tightvnc version

2007-06-01 Thread Joseph Loo
M Harris wrote:
 Which version of tightvnc shipped with 10.2?   
 
 
I am not sure which version was shipped, but under 10.2 I am using 1.2.9

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Re: [opensuse] knetwork manager issues

2007-06-01 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Fri, 2007-06-01 at 22:58 +0400, Sean Craig wrote:
 and why not?
  
 Regards
 
 Sean
 
 
 JB2 wrote:
  On Fri 01 June 07 04:24, Sean Craig wrote:

  Hi Gordon,
 
  Are you using ndiswrapper to get your wireless card working?
 
  While I've never had NetworkManager quit on me, I do have the problem of
  NetworkManager not being able to 'configure device' (everything after
  that fails) if I don't login and let it connect immediately after the
  system is up.
  
 
Please don't top-post.


a problem you have.
that could help you with
the very person
could piss off
Because you

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Re: [now OT] Re: [opensuse] knetwork manager issues

2007-06-01 Thread Darryl Gregorash
On 2007-06-01 20:49, Sean Craig wrote:
 Wow, you are a rude little boy!  Is that really the best you can come up
 snip snip
Please don't waste your bandwidth and mine on the rabble. They already
waste enough of it.


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Re: [opensuse] Speed up images printing

2007-06-01 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Fri, 2007-06-01 at 23:12 +0100, Lívio Cipriano wrote:
 On 1 June 2007 20:48, Sunny wrote:
  What program you print from?
 
 I'm printing from KDE. The 370Kb image was printed from Konqueror.
 
  What kind of printer you have?
 
 It's an HP LaserJet 5MP, it's an PostScript 2 printer
 
  How is it  
  setup?
 
 I just configure CUPS with 2 queues : one as a raw printer, no filtering, and 
 another as an HP LaserJet 5MP with the manufacture PPD.
 

This most likely is because of not enough memory in the printer. I have
the same problem with my HP laser but only on large graphic files.

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Re: [opensuse] knetwork manager issues

2007-06-01 Thread Darryl Gregorash
On 2007-06-01 21:42, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
 On Fri, 2007-06-01 at 22:58 +0400, Sean Craig wrote:
   
 and why not?
  
 snip
   Please don't top-post.
   
   

 a problem you have.
 that could help you with
 the very person
 could piss off
 Because you

   

.suolucidir gnitteg si siht woN


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egg, bi or small, should be cracked open, do it on your own bandwidth
please. I am seriously tired of having the lot of you waste mine.

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