Re: [opensuse-factory] Alpha 6 install
Dňa Pi 20. Júl 2007 00:31 Kenneth Schneider napísal: On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 17:20 -0500, Donn Washburn wrote: Kenneth Schneider wrote: Trying to upgrade from alpha 5 to alpha 6 and I'm getting a lot of curl errors with an unrecognized error code. Appears to be an ftp error. Never had this on all of the previous alpha upgrades. Ken Where did you find Alpha 6? http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3-Alpha6/ Been there since early this morning. Further info while I'm at it: Applied the delta iso to the alpha 5 DVD, loop mounted the DVD on my server and I'm doing an FTP upgrade. The upgrade hangs every now and then with the above error, if I click on retry right away the error message comes back but if I wait 15-20 seconds the upgrade will continue on to the next package. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=293004 ? Stano - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Alpha 6 install
Kenneth Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Trying to upgrade from alpha 5 to alpha 6 and I'm getting a lot of curl errors with an unrecognized error code. Appears to be an ftp error. Never had this on all of the previous alpha upgrades. Yes, ftp install is broken :-( - should be mentioned on the Most Annoying Bugs page and in the announcement, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgps4G8BdBZRF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-announce] Announcing openSUSE 10.3 Alpha6
Am Donnerstag 19 Juli 2007 schrieb David Bolt: [1] It's still going to be useful to add extra packages/patterns and remove unwanted (non-OSS?) packages/patterns, as well as adding extra, third party, repositories. Actually this is very likely to be the goal of further releases: make the CD the installation medium of first choice and provide the DVD as collection of repositories and extra patterns. Greetings, Stephan -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-announce] Announcing openSUSE10.3 Alpha6
Am Freitag 20 Juli 2007 schrieb Bernhard Walle: * Stephan Kulow [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-07-20 10:58]: Am Donnerstag 19 Juli 2007 schrieb David Bolt: [1] It's still going to be useful to add extra packages/patterns and remove unwanted (non-OSS?) packages/patterns, as well as adding extra, third party, repositories. Actually this is very likely to be the goal of further releases: make the CD the installation medium of first choice and provide the DVD as collection of repositories and extra patterns. So you have to download and burn *two* media every time you want a real system which has more than a few KDE OR GNOME applications? Yes. The assumption I have is that most people installing have no problem in being online during installation. And those[1] that would like to avoid it, burn the DVD. Note, that I'm sharing with you my blue prints. There are no concrete plans. Greetings, Stephan [1] People buying the box will have the DVD and people being fine with a default install don't have the problem anyway. -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-announce] Announcing openSUSE 10.3 Alpha6
* Stephan Kulow [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-07-20 10:58]: Am Donnerstag 19 Juli 2007 schrieb David Bolt: [1] It's still going to be useful to add extra packages/patterns and remove unwanted (non-OSS?) packages/patterns, as well as adding extra, third party, repositories. Actually this is very likely to be the goal of further releases: make the CD the installation medium of first choice and provide the DVD as collection of repositories and extra patterns. So you have to download and burn *two* media every time you want a real system which has more than a few KDE OR GNOME applications? Thanks, Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-announce] Announcing openSUSE10.3 Alpha6
On 7/20/07, Stephan Kulow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Freitag 20 Juli 2007 schrieb Bernhard Walle: * Stephan Kulow [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-07-20 10:58]: Am Donnerstag 19 Juli 2007 schrieb David Bolt: [1] It's still going to be useful to add extra packages/patterns and remove unwanted (non-OSS?) packages/patterns, as well as adding extra, third party, repositories. Actually this is very likely to be the goal of further releases: make the CD the installation medium of first choice and provide the DVD as collection of repositories and extra patterns. So you have to download and burn *two* media every time you want a real system which has more than a few KDE OR GNOME applications? Yes. The assumption I have is that most people installing have no problem in being online during installation. And those[1] that would like to avoid it, burn the DVD. Note, that I'm sharing with you my blue prints. There are no concrete plans. Greetings, Stephan [1] People buying the box will have the DVD and people being fine with a default install don't have the problem anyway. I do have a strong protest. I'm offliner, and therefore for SUSE to fulfill my needs, *all* the packages *must* be available from offline media, such as DVDs. I have also opened a feature-request to add a second DVD to represent full OS. (not just part of it, as it currently happens with 1 DVD) https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=263606 Novell people, and some of the community disagreed with my stance, while others supported this idea. Currently openSUSE fulfilsl my needs at only 50% (only half of the packages available on the standard DVD), and if the downloadbale media will become CD, then SUSE will fulfill my needs at only 10% - which is terrible. As openSUSE is the community distro, I ask openSUSE developers to fulfill needs of both the online community (1CD net-install) and the offliner community (people who like to install from DVDs, even if we have broadband) - and our needs are Full Distro on several DVDs. Debian fulfills both requirements fully - openSUSE tries to. Please don't start a flame-war, but rather look around and see how can we, as openSUSE community, to address the needs of our offline Susers ? -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-announce] Announcing openSUSE 10.3 Alpha6
Bernhard Walle [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Stephan Kulow [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-07-20 10:58]: Am Donnerstag 19 Juli 2007 schrieb David Bolt: [1] It's still going to be useful to add extra packages/patterns and remove unwanted (non-OSS?) packages/patterns, as well as adding extra, third party, repositories. Actually this is very likely to be the goal of further releases: make the CD the installation medium of first choice and provide the DVD as collection of repositories and extra patterns. So you have to download and burn *two* media every time you want a real system which has more than a few KDE OR GNOME applications? No - it's just an option. The ftp repository is always available... Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpJprFOAUdhq.pgp Description: PGP signature
[opensuse-factory] Re: [softwaremgmt] when to refresh?
Martin Schlander napsal(a): Den Thursday 19 July 2007 17:51:39 skrev Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett: [...] In the case of YaST, should it download and refresh when adding the repos in inst_source, or should it do it during startup of the package selector? Could we have it ask Download repository metadata now? after adding repo in yast? Perhaps even with an estimated size of the download. My proposal for the Yast workflow is here: When adding a new repository in inst_sources: - Add a new option to the Media Type dialog (the first dialog displayed after pressing [Add]) - a check box with label Download and parse metadata now, turned on by default. After entering URL and pressing [Next]: - Scan available products in the URL (there is usually just one product, but there might be more products) - For each found product: - probe repository type - download and display the message (if present) - download and display the license (if present), if it's not accepted remove the product - Display the new repositories in the table (Note that some files will be downloaded even if the metadata download is turned off.) After pressing [Finish]: - save repositories to /etc/zypp/repos.d, if the repository has just been created then download and parse metadata (if it hasn't been turned off) (download should be postponed to the end, see bug #208461) When starting the package manager: - refresh and parse all missing metadata (and also refresh the repositories which have autorefresh flag set) - start the package manager Any suggestions or improvements? Have a nice day! Ladislav -- Best Regards Ladislav Slezák Yast Developer SUSE LINUX, s.r.o. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 960 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Re: [softwaremgmt] when to refresh?
* Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Jul 19. 2007 17:51]: Hi guys. If you read already the news on package management, there are some open issues we would like to have feedback from you. As you may know, now all operations on repositories are splitted, so you can add a repository without downloading metadata. But at some point to operate on them you need valid metadata and a binary cache. An example: zypper sa http://foo bar zypper search moo zypper install cuack for the search, you need cache, for the cache you need metadata. Should ZYpper exit and tell the user to refresh, or should it ask the user whether to refresh without exiting? In the case of YaST, should it download and refresh when adding the repos in inst_source, or should it do it during startup of the package selector? I'd also like to ask for the motivation behind immediate vs. delayed refresh. For 'zypper sa http://foo bar', why do user NOT want an immediate metadata download ? Lets see - the system is currently offline - the user is adding lots of repos in a batch - the user just wants to prep the system without using the repo immediately What else ? Imho, adding a repo (via zypper or yast) should at least check for reachability of the repo and give immediate feedback. (one might have mistyped the url, access an incompatible architecture, etc.) zypper search moo must have the metadata available. So if the data is not cached on the system, refresh must be done. zypper install cuack, same as zypper search imho. Klaus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Re: [softwaremgmt] when to refresh?
* Ladislav Slezak [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Jul 20. 2007 13:47]: My proposal for the Yast workflow is here: When adding a new repository in inst_sources: - Add a new option to the Media Type dialog (the first dialog displayed after pressing [Add]) - a check box with label Download and parse metadata now, turned on by default. I agree to the concept but not to the wording, only experienced users will know what download and parse metadata means. After entering URL and pressing [Next]: - Scan available products in the URL (there is usually just one product, but there might be more products) Huh ? Are there products encoded in the URL ? ;-) - For each found product: - probe repository type - download and display the message (if present) - download and display the license (if present), if it's not accepted remove the product This would include checking of repo accessability - but requires network access. - Display the new repositories in the table (Note that some files will be downloaded even if the metadata download is turned off.) Which is fine, if users are told Checking repository ... After pressing [Finish]: - save repositories to /etc/zypp/repos.d, if the repository has just been created then download and parse metadata (if it hasn't been turned off) (download should be postponed to the end, see bug #208461) When starting the package manager: - refresh and parse all missing metadata (and also refresh the repositories which have autorefresh flag set) Didn't we want to get rid of refresh/parse when starting package manager ? - start the package manager Klaus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [softwaremgmt] when to refresh?
Dňa Pi 20. Júl 2007 14:05 Klaus Kaempf napísal: * Ladislav Slezak [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Jul 20. 2007 13:47]: My proposal for the Yast workflow is here: When adding a new repository in inst_sources: - Add a new option to the Media Type dialog (the first dialog displayed after pressing [Add]) - a check box with label Download and parse metadata now, turned on by default. I agree to the concept but not to the wording, only experienced users will know what download and parse metadata means. After entering URL and pressing [Next]: - Scan available products in the URL (there is usually just one product, but there might be more products) Huh ? Are there products encoded in the URL ? ;-) - For each found product: - probe repository type - download and display the message (if present) - download and display the license (if present), if it's not accepted remove the product This would include checking of repo accessability - but requires network access. - Display the new repositories in the table (Note that some files will be downloaded even if the metadata download is turned off.) Which is fine, if users are told Checking repository ... After pressing [Finish]: - save repositories to /etc/zypp/repos.d, if the repository has just been created then download and parse metadata (if it hasn't been turned off) (download should be postponed to the end, see bug #208461) When starting the package manager: - refresh and parse all missing metadata (and also refresh the repositories which have autorefresh flag set) Didn't we want to get rid of refresh/parse when starting package manager ? I believe 'missing' is important word here. Stano - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Alpha 6 install
On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 09:19 +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: Kenneth Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Trying to upgrade from alpha 5 to alpha 6 and I'm getting a lot of curl errors with an unrecognized error code. Appears to be an ftp error. Never had this on all of the previous alpha upgrades. Yes, ftp install is broken :-( - should be mentioned on the Most Annoying Bugs page and in the announcement, Andreas Follow up: Installation finished using ftp, yes it is broken and has a bug number, I was able to continue by pressing the retry button on several packages. Eventually it finished. Some other issues I will open a bug for: network setup reports could not convert 'ifcfg-eth-XXX': file already exists. I had to manually remove the file in order for the network to be configured. On the plus side my wireless is now working again and will report this in the bug I have open. -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Re: [softwaremgmt] when to refresh?
* Martin Schlander [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Jul 19. 2007 18:58]: Den Thursday 19 July 2007 17:51:39 skrev Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett: zypper sa http://foo bar Maybe zypper should ask already at this point: Repository added succesfully. Do you wish to download metadata (xx MB) now ? y/n? Being asked every time might annoy people. I'd like to see this configurable. zypper search moo zypper install cuack for the search, you need cache, for the cache you need metadata. Should ZYpper exit and tell the user to refresh, or should it ask the user whether to refresh without exiting? Better to ask. Same as above. In the case of YaST, should it download and refresh when adding the repos in inst_source, or should it do it during startup of the package selector? Could we have it ask Download repository metadata now? after adding repo in yast? Perhaps even with an estimated size of the download. YaST is different from command line zypper and I agree that asking is right here. If people select no, then it must do it on startup later. The consequences of selecting 'no' should be made clear. (And maybe a 'Dont ask anymore' checkbox, configurable via menu) Personally I think it's more natural and intuitive that the metadata is downloaded when the repo is added. But of course most other package managers separate metadata download and repo adding completely. What concerns me most is error handling. Having mistyped a URL is pretty annoying when the tools dont report this immediately. However to me the important thing is not so much when it's done, but mostly that the user gets clear information about what's happening when it's done. Good point ! Klaus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Alpha 6 install
Kenneth Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 09:19 +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: Kenneth Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Trying to upgrade from alpha 5 to alpha 6 and I'm getting a lot of curl errors with an unrecognized error code. Appears to be an ftp error. Never had this on all of the previous alpha upgrades. Yes, ftp install is broken :-( - should be mentioned on the Most Annoying Bugs page and in the announcement, Andreas Follow up: Installation finished using ftp, yes it is broken and has a bug number, I was able to continue by pressing the retry button on several packages. Eventually it finished. Some other issues I will open a bug for: network setup reports could not convert 'ifcfg-eth-XXX': file already exists. I had to manually remove the file in order for the network to be configured. On the plus side my wireless is now working again and will report this in the bug I have open. Yes, please do file a bug with all details (append the file), Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpSHtRvtDUtZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-announce] Announcing openSUSE10.3 Alpha6
I do have a strong protest. uncountable amounts of bla bla bla deleted burn your own dvd Marcio --- druid - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] DVD torrents not effective?
Hi, the DVD torrents for Alpha6 are annoying. The i386 image stalled at 99,90%. But since 10 hours no progress for the last piece. The x86_64 image is downloading with approx 15KB/s and I have 46%. Do others have the same problem? Is it just me? With Alpha5 it was no problem. Is there any help? -- Andreas Vetter Fakultaet fuer Physik und Astronomie Universitaet Wuerzburg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] DVD torrents not effective?
Hello, Andreas Vetter wrote: the DVD torrents for Alpha6 are annoying. Strange. I actually measure less traffic than usual on my server, now just 5MB/s with 90 clients, and for previous alphas it was 8-15MB/s with 200+ clients. I guess, it's summer , less people are downloading, so less people are seeding. Anyway, I have all three images at 100%, so you should not have download troubles. Maybe just restart your torrent client to see a different set of peers. Bye, CzP Ps: seeded already half a terra byte :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] DVD torrents not effective?
On 07/20/2007 07:49 AM, Andreas Vetter wrote: Hi, the DVD torrents for Alpha6 are annoying. The i386 image stalled at 99,90%. But since 10 hours no progress for the last piece. The x86_64 image is downloading with approx 15KB/s and I have 46%. Do others have the same problem? Is it just me? With Alpha5 it was no problem. Is there any help? Cancel the torrent, and fetch the images by ftp. _All_ P2P is usually annoying, and as a general rule, I resort to it only if there is no other option.l -- Hypocrisy is the homage vice pays to virtue. -- François de La Rochefoucauld - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-announce] Announcing openSUSE 10.3 Alpha6
Am Freitag 20 Juli 2007 schrieb Darryl Gregorash: On 07/20/2007 02:58 AM, Stephan Kulow wrote: Am Donnerstag 19 Juli 2007 schrieb David Bolt: [1] It's still going to be useful to add extra packages/patterns and remove unwanted (non-OSS?) packages/patterns, as well as adding extra, third party, repositories. Actually this is very likely to be the goal of further releases: make the CD the installation medium of first choice and provide the DVD as collection of repositories and extra patterns. IMO this will be a big mistake. Installation should be, must be, made a simple as possible, and that implies the user should be presented with as few physical media as possible. If I buy the commercial box, the complete distribution should be included in it -- OSS packages, non-OSS packages, as well as all the sources -- all of it on, as I said, as few physical media as possible. If I download the images instead, I should be able to end up with the same set of 3 DVDs, and should not have to burn a bunch of (soon to be obsolete?) CDs that contain a minuscule fraction of the total distribution. If that is what I wanted, I would fetch just a single, much smaller, image, and do an ftp installation. Yeah, you either misunderstood or didn't read: _the_ CD is the installation medium - the vast majority of software is provided either by a DVD or ftp. Greetings, Stephan -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-announce] Announcing openSUSE 10.3 Alpha6
On 07/20/2007 02:58 AM, Stephan Kulow wrote: Am Donnerstag 19 Juli 2007 schrieb David Bolt: [1] It's still going to be useful to add extra packages/patterns and remove unwanted (non-OSS?) packages/patterns, as well as adding extra, third party, repositories. Actually this is very likely to be the goal of further releases: make the CD the installation medium of first choice and provide the DVD as collection of repositories and extra patterns. IMO this will be a big mistake. Installation should be, must be, made a simple as possible, and that implies the user should be presented with as few physical media as possible. If I buy the commercial box, the complete distribution should be included in it -- OSS packages, non-OSS packages, as well as all the sources -- all of it on, as I said, as few physical media as possible. If I download the images instead, I should be able to end up with the same set of 3 DVDs, and should not have to burn a bunch of (soon to be obsolete?) CDs that contain a minuscule fraction of the total distribution. If that is what I wanted, I would fetch just a single, much smaller, image, and do an ftp installation. -- Hypocrisy is the homage vice pays to virtue. -- François de La Rochefoucauld - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [softwaremgmt] when to refresh?
On Friday 20 July 2007 01:57:13 pm Klaus Kaempf wrote: For 'zypper sa http://foo bar', why do user NOT want an immediate metadata download ? Lets see - the system is currently offline - the user is adding lots of repos in a batch - the user just wants to prep the system without using the repo immediately What else ? Imho, adding a repo (via zypper or yast) should at least check for reachability of the repo and give immediate feedback. (one might have mistyped the url, access an incompatible architecture, etc.) Checking for reachability needs network access, which is you did not want above. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [softwaremgmt] when to refresh?
* Duncan Mac-Vicar P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Jul 20. 2007 16:36]: On Friday 20 July 2007 01:57:13 pm Klaus Kaempf wrote: For 'zypper sa http://foo bar', why do user NOT want an immediate metadata download ? Lets see - the system is currently offline - the user is adding lots of repos in a batch - the user just wants to prep the system without using the repo immediately What else ? Imho, adding a repo (via zypper or yast) should at least check for reachability of the repo and give immediate feedback. (one might have mistyped the url, access an incompatible architecture, etc.) Checking for reachability needs network access, which is you did not want above. What do you propose for error checking and reporting ? Klaus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] DVD torrents not effective?
Peter Czanik wrote: Hello, Andreas Vetter wrote: the DVD torrents for Alpha6 are annoying. Strange. I actually measure less traffic than usual on my server, now just 5MB/s with 90 clients, and for previous alphas it was 8-15MB/s with 200+ clients. I guess, it's summer , less people are downloading, so less people are seeding. Anyway, I have all three images at 100%, so you should not have download troubles. Maybe just restart your torrent client to see a different set of peers. Bye, CzP Ps: seeded already half a terra byte :) - Must be local difficulties at some points, Donn Washburn was also having problems, but here in the UK on cable I started the DVD torrent at 11:42 and at 16:25 I have 3.31 of 3.83 GB downloaded. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [softwaremgmt] when to refresh?
On Fri July 20 2007 09:04, Klaus Kaempf wrote: * Duncan Mac-Vicar P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Jul 20. 2007 16:36]: On Friday 20 July 2007 01:57:13 pm Klaus Kaempf wrote: For 'zypper sa http://foo bar', why do user NOT want an immediate metadata download ? Lets see - the system is currently offline - the user is adding lots of repos in a batch - the user just wants to prep the system without using the repo immediately What else ? Imho, adding a repo (via zypper or yast) should at least check for reachability of the repo and give immediate feedback. (one might have mistyped the url, access an incompatible architecture, etc.) Checking for reachability needs network access, which is you did not want above. What do you propose for error checking and reporting ? All repos from http://en.opensuse.org/Package_Repositories could be offered in a pull down menu for addition offline without risk of typos and without need for error checking. Only new repos need checking and the error message could be: Error: Could not connect to repository. Add anyway? -- Carlos FL Who is General Failure, and why is he reading my disk? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] DVD torrents not effective?
Den Friday 20 July 2007 15:49:31 skrev Andreas Vetter: the DVD torrents for Alpha6 are annoying. Do others have the same problem? Is it just me? With Alpha5 it was no problem. Works great for me. However I only got a2 as full DVD. Since then I get the deltadvd (via BT, fast with no problems) apply it, and then seed the full DVD. Right now I seed a6 x86_64 DVD (and 10.2 DVD, and a5-a6 delta). Maybe you should have a look at your local situation. What BT-client do you use? Does it support DHT? Have you configured NAT and SuSEfirewall? It should work ok no matter what, but the above steps will improve performance. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] DVD torrents not effective?
Sid Boyce wrote: Peter Czanik wrote: Hello, Andreas Vetter wrote: the DVD torrents for Alpha6 are annoying. Strange. I actually measure less traffic than usual on my server, now just 5MB/s with 90 clients, and for previous alphas it was 8-15MB/s with 200+ clients. I guess, it's summer , less people are downloading, so less people are seeding. Anyway, I have all three images at 100%, so you should not have download troubles. Maybe just restart your torrent client to see a different set of peers. Bye, CzP Ps: seeded already half a terra byte :) - Must be local difficulties at some points, Donn Washburn was also having problems, but here in the UK on cable I started the DVD torrent at 11:42 and at 16:25 I have 3.31 of 3.83 GB downloaded. Regards Sid. Similar experience here: though it started (last night) very slowly, the full x86 DVD and the delta both completed by the time I got in from work (so must be 24 hours). Both will be left seeding for a fortnight or so, maybe longer but it's only an Alpha. Time now to try it out... -- Cheers Richard (MQ) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] ndiswrapper should be included in 1-cd install
I think ndiswrapper should be included on 1CD install. Many users have network cards whose only possibility to work under linux is ndiswrapper. As a consequence, I think it would be of great help to provide ndiswrapper directly on the CD. With kind regards, Alberto - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] DVD torrents not effective?
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007, Martin Schlander wrote: Den Friday 20 July 2007 15:49:31 skrev Andreas Vetter: the DVD torrents for Alpha6 are annoying. Do others have the same problem? Is it just me? With Alpha5 it was no problem. Works great for me. However I only got a2 as full DVD. Since then I get the deltadvd (via BT, fast with no problems) apply it, and then seed the full DVD. Right now I seed a6 x86_64 DVD (and 10.2 DVD, and a5-a6 delta). Maybe you should have a look at your local situation. What BT-client do you use? Does it support DHT? Have you configured NAT and SuSEfirewall? It should work ok no matter what, but the above steps will improve performance. I use ktorrent, and after some more hours x86_64 is finished. I'll try to quit it and start again: Yes, that's the trick. Only stopping the transfer inside ktorrent is not enough. one really has to close it and start again. Thanks to all. -- Andreas Vetter Fakultaet fuer Physik und Astronomie Universitaet Wuerzburg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] ndiswrapper should be included in 1-cd install
2007/7/20, Alberto Passalacqua [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think ndiswrapper should be included on 1CD install. Many users have network cards whose only possibility to work under linux is ndiswrapper. As a consequence, I think it would be of great help to provide ndiswrapper directly on the CD. I absolutly agree. Nice you noticed lack of ndiswrapper on 1CD install version. -- Rafał Miłecki
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-announce] Announcing openSUSE 10.3 Alpha6
On 07/20/2007 08:20 AM, Stephan Kulow wrote: snip Yeah, you either misunderstood or didn't read: _the_ CD is the installation medium - the vast majority of software is provided either by a DVD or ftp. Yeah, I did read: you are saying I will need to use more than one disc to install a basic system, with just OSS software on it -- unless, of course, the DVD will be bootable, in which case the CD is superfluous. -- Hypocrisy is the homage vice pays to virtue. -- François de La Rochefoucauld - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Installation from Alpha6 Error code -3030
Hello, I try to install the Alpha6 on my Dell Desktop PC. When the system go to format the disk i get the error -3030. Nothing will be done. The disk is an raid1 system. Under Opensuse10.2 it works very fine. Bye Bjørn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-announce] Announcing openSUSE 10.3 Alpha6
On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 14:05 -0600, Darryl Gregorash wrote: On 07/20/2007 08:20 AM, Stephan Kulow wrote: snip Yeah, you either misunderstood or didn't read: _the_ CD is the installation medium - the vast majority of software is provided either by a DVD or ftp. Yeah, I did read: you are saying I will need to use more than one disc to install a basic system, with just OSS software on it -- unless, of course, the DVD will be bootable, in which case the CD is superfluous. The DVD is bootable. Cheers, Magnus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: [opensuse-factory] Alpha 6 install
Dňa Pi 20. Júl 2007 00:31 Kenneth Schneider napísal: On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 17:20 -0500, Donn Washburn wrote: Kenneth Schneider wrote: Trying to upgrade from alpha 5 to alpha 6 and I'm getting a lot of curl errors with an unrecognized error code. Appears to be an ftp error. Never had this on all of the previous alpha upgrades. Ken Where did you find Alpha 6? http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3-Alpha6/ Been there since early this morning. Further info while I'm at it: Applied the delta iso to the alpha 5 DVD, loop mounted the DVD on my server and I'm doing an FTP upgrade. The upgrade hangs every now and then with the above error, if I click on retry right away the error message comes back but if I wait 15-20 seconds the upgrade will continue on to the next package. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=293004 ? Stano -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] kdewallet forgets kmail password (found workaround)
On Donnerstag, 19. Juli 2007, Daniel Bauer wrote: Hello, I made a new email account in kmail. I say remember password wherever I find this option, but kdewallet forgets it after user log out . for your info: my problem is a known bug: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137232 As I read there, kdewallet doesn't save its data when logging out from kde. So I closed kdewallet manually (right click on wallet icon in system tray-close all wallets). This way the new password was saved correctly. Worked on my computer, but others (in the bug report) were not that lucky... regards Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Switzerland professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com erotic art photos: http://www.bauer-nudes.com/en/linux.html Madagascar special: http://www.fotograf-basel.ch/madagascar/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Life after SP1
Personally I think it **could** be a really, really great product if the Zenworks folks could ever get it to deal with with SLES10 correctly. I love being able to use rug to update stuff from the command line - Thanks for the answer. Are you using only the patch management or the entire Linux Management suite? Because, with a local yum server, you could already update stuff with rug from the command line without having to install another software. Regards, Gael -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] SMTP package
On Thursday 19 July 2007, Chris Arnold wrote: Postfix is installed. I did not really want to use postfix. Where does yast ask you for the setup? If you didn't eant Postfix, What did you want to use? Have you even looked at yast?? Its under services. -- _ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Commnad for Restart X in opensuse-xgl-settings.
Hello If i may ask. Does anybody know, how command is used in the last tab Restart X in opensuse-xgl-settings? I´t is an intersting thing, because i don´t have to restart pc, only X-window, so that it is faster. Thanks Have a nice day:-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Commnad for Restart X in opensuse-xgl-settings.
On 7/20/07, Krupanský [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello If i may ask. Does anybody know, how command is used in the last tab Restart X in opensuse-xgl-settings? I´t is an intersting thing, because i don´t have to restart pc, only X-window, so that it is faster. Ctrl+Alt+Backspace and init 3 + init 5 works as well. Have a nice day:-) You too :) -J -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] New Samba acting up
Hiya.. I got a new Samba for my SUSE 10.1 x86_64 by automatic update last night, and now all of a sudden my Vista workstation won't connect to the shares automatically. I have the machine as a domain controller with LDAP backend, and it's been working flawless until the new update to samba-3.0.22-13.32. My log.smbd shows this as the workstation logs in, and asks for username/password, which it has NEVER done before: [2007/07/20 10:31:25, 0] smbd/server.c:main(805) smbd version 3.0.22-13.32-1354-SUSE-CODE10 started. Copyright Andrew Tridgell and the Samba Team 1992-2006 [2007/07/20 10:34:48, 0] lib/util_sock.c:get_peer_addr(1225) getpeername failed. Error was Transport endpoint is not connected [2007/07/20 10:34:48, 0] lib/util_sock.c:write_data(557) write_data: write failure in writing to client 192.168.111.30. Error Connection reset by peer [2007/07/20 10:34:48, 0] lib/util_sock.c:send_smb(765) Error writing 4 bytes to client. -1. (Connection reset by peer) [2007/07/20 10:35:22, 1] smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(700) hilda (192.168.111.30) connect to service profiles initially as user anders (uid=1002, gid=1001) (pid 5548) [2007/07/20 10:35:25, 1] smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(700) hilda (192.168.111.30) connect to service anders initially as user anders (uid=1002, gid=1001) (pid 5548) [2007/07/20 10:35:27, 1] smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(700) hilda (192.168.111.30) connect to service netlogon initially as user anders (uid=1002, gid=1001) (pid 5548) [2007/07/20 10:35:32, 1] smbd/service.c:close_cnum(897) hilda (192.168.111.30) closed connection to service profiles [2007/07/20 10:35:38, 1] smbd/service.c:close_cnum(897) hilda (192.168.111.30) closed connection to service anders [2007/07/20 10:36:00, 1] smbd/service.c:close_cnum(897) hilda (192.168.111.30) closed connection to service netlogon Then I enter username/pass for the share, and log shows: [2007/07/20 10:41:23, 1] smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(700) hilda (192.168.111.30) connect to service anders initially as user anders (uid=1002, gid=1001) (pid 5648) [2007/07/20 10:41:23, 1] smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(700) hilda (192.168.111.30) connect to service netlogon initially as user anders (uid=1002, gid=1001) (pid 5648) Then the login script tries to connect to the second share, asks for username and password again, I enter it, and the Vista net utility replies with system error 1219. Then I tried to use the expanded net use format, like this: net use * \\beata\firman /U:NORRBRING\anders the_password and that worked fine. Next attempt was: net use * \\beata\firman /U:NORRBRING\anders Then it asked for password, and I hit enter and got connected to the share. Any ideas on all of this? Anders. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HIJACKED THREAD: was Re: [opensuse] yast online update
Registration Account wrote: I am truly frustrated at applications like online update, open suse update, Zen, what ever you like enforcing the application set standards on an acceptable response time from the update source. Please don't hijack threads. Start your own if you want to start a new topic. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] New Samba acting up
Hiya.. I got a new Samba for my SUSE 10.1 x86_64 by automatic update last night, and now all of a sudden my Vista workstation won't connect to the shares automatically. I have the machine as a domain controller with LDAP backend, and it's been working flawless until the new update to samba-3.0.22-13.32. My log.smbd shows this as the workstation logs in, and asks for username/password, which it has NEVER done before: [2007/07/20 10:31:25, 0] smbd/server.c:main(805) smbd version 3.0.22-13.32-1354-SUSE-CODE10 started. Copyright Andrew Tridgell and the Samba Team 1992-2006 [2007/07/20 10:34:48, 0] lib/util_sock.c:get_peer_addr(1225) getpeername failed. Error was Transport endpoint is not connected [2007/07/20 10:34:48, 0] lib/util_sock.c:write_data(557) write_data: write failure in writing to client 192.168.111.30. Error Connection reset by peer [2007/07/20 10:34:48, 0] lib/util_sock.c:send_smb(765) Error writing 4 bytes to client. -1. (Connection reset by peer) [2007/07/20 10:35:22, 1] smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(700) hilda (192.168.111.30) connect to service profiles initially as user anders (uid=1002, gid=1001) (pid 5548) [2007/07/20 10:35:25, 1] smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(700) hilda (192.168.111.30) connect to service anders initially as user anders (uid=1002, gid=1001) (pid 5548) [2007/07/20 10:35:27, 1] smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(700) hilda (192.168.111.30) connect to service netlogon initially as user anders (uid=1002, gid=1001) (pid 5548) [2007/07/20 10:35:32, 1] smbd/service.c:close_cnum(897) hilda (192.168.111.30) closed connection to service profiles [2007/07/20 10:35:38, 1] smbd/service.c:close_cnum(897) hilda (192.168.111.30) closed connection to service anders [2007/07/20 10:36:00, 1] smbd/service.c:close_cnum(897) hilda (192.168.111.30) closed connection to service netlogon Then I enter username/pass for the share, and log shows: [2007/07/20 10:41:23, 1] smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(700) hilda (192.168.111.30) connect to service anders initially as user anders (uid=1002, gid=1001) (pid 5648) [2007/07/20 10:41:23, 1] smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(700) hilda (192.168.111.30) connect to service netlogon initially as user anders (uid=1002, gid=1001) (pid 5648) Then the login script tries to connect to the second share, asks for username and password again, I enter it, and the Vista net utility replies with system error 1219. Then I tried to use the expanded net use format, like this: net use * \\beata\firman /U:NORRBRING\anders the_password and that worked fine. Next attempt was: net use * \\beata\firman /U:NORRBRING\anders Then it asked for password, and I hit enter and got connected to the share. Any ideas on all of this? Anders. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: [opensuse] Commnad for Restart X in opensuse-xgl-settings.
By the way, CyberOrg about compiz-fusion. I still haven´t started compiz-fusion:-( http://forums.opencompositing.org/viewtopic.php?f=14t=152st=0sk=tsd=astart=60#p10080 So, i should wait for offcially in openSUSE 10.3. I hope that it will work. Regards -Pôvodná správa- Od: CyberOrg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Komu: Krupansk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Predmet: Re: [opensuse] Commnad for Restart X in opensuse-xgl-settings. On 7/20/07, Krupanský [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello If i may ask. Does anybody know, how command is used in the last tab Restart X in opensuse-xgl-settings? I´t is an intersting thing, because i don´t have to restart pc, only X-window, so that it is faster. Ctrl+Alt+Backspace and init 3 + init 5 works as well. Have a nice day:-) You too :) -J -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] openSUSE 10.2 Update package store location?
Carlos E. R. wrote: The Tuesday 2007-07-17 at 16:12 +0200, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote: I would like to reload the entire system from scratch but do not want to have to re-download all the patches I have already downloaded. What I would like to know, is where openSUSE stores its updates and how those same updates can be used again. What would I need to do to have them stored in a different location? Nowhere. They are not stored and you need to re-download them every single time. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=191021 The bug is marked as duplicate of bug 188543, which gives access denied. Please add your vote to the first one. Perhaps reopen it. :-/ Assigned my vote to it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] qt4.3.0-69.1
On Friday, 20. July 2007 06:32:36 Robert Lewis wrote: I have qt4.3.0-69.1 [..] on my 10.2 system which I got from online update That's wrong, 10.2 does contain Qt 4.2.1, you didn't get it via YOU. this version is buggy and has been replaced by.2, .3 and now .4 which is the Qt 4.3.0 *is* the latest available Qt version. latest and solves some problems they are seeing. And http://bugzilla.novell.com is the right place to file a bug report. Bye, Steve -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Unable to update kernel
Rajko M. wrote: On Thursday 19 July 2007 18:53, James Knott wrote: James Knott wrote: When I run Yast Online Update, I see a Linux Kernel security update. However, when I run the update, that one does not get applied, though others do. I've included the relevant info from y2log. Forgot to mention, I'm running the 64 bit version. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org Can you look in /boot what is present there? The latest is 2.6.18.8-0.5, and it was applied here few days ago. See bug https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=290959 2006-11-27 13:52 vmlinuz-2.6.18.2-34-default Also, that bug report is about when the system won't boot after kernel update. In my case, the update doesn't get installed at all, but it does boot without problem. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 Freezing On Boot
* Dave Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] [07-19-07 23:53]: Next question: How do you boot a non-booting system to make this change? with a live cd such as System Rescus or Knoppix. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice.org:/UNSTABLE repo
OK, i was patient and recognized the update of /OpenOffice.org:/UNSTABLE/openSUSE_10.2/noarch/ from 2007-07-14 Thanks 4 this, but the packages dont work because it installs into another folder(/usr/share) than the rest(/usr/lib) You have to do a rpm -Uvh --relocate=/usr/share=/usr/lib OpenOffice_org-de-2.2.99.211-2.1.noarch.rpm after downloading it. Noarch packages must not include files below /usr/lib or /usr/lib64. I had to move them to a common place = /usr/share. There should be a %post install script to create the necessary compat symlinks. You can see it in the packages in Factory. From some strange reasons, the packages build in the Build Service does not include these scripts. I do not why. They are built from the exactly the same sources. I have to investigate it. Note that the scripts are only temporary solution. I want to hack OOo to be able to find all the files directly below /usr/share/. I am afraid that I won't be able to do the clean solution for 10.3, though. I have long plans to move even more files to follow the usual Linux structure (config files to /etc...). It needs a lot of work, so... -- Best Regards, Petr Mladek software developer - SUSE LINUX, s. r. o.e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 952 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 Freezing On Boot
On 20/07/07 at 13:02 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had 10.2 installed on one of my boxes since it was first released and until today it never given me any problems. When I turned this box on today the boot process started and froze at Setting up the hardware clock. Tried several hardware resets and a few attempts at a Safe Boot, but it continues to freeze at the same point. There is no problem booting into Win XP, or live CDs from 4 other distros where there does not appear issue with the date/time setting. Can anyone offer any thoughts or suggestions as to a possible cause and/or solution. TIA Dave If this is a 64 bit system, replace /sbin/hwclock with the 32 bit version of hwclock. Yes, it is a 64 bit system. I have seen some reference to this in my searches prior to posting here. Strange that this should suddenly become a problem after all this time. Guess I have just been real lucky all these months. Next question: How do you boot a non-booting system to make this change? Thanks Dave There is a bug report in bugzilla.novell.com. The 32 bit version of hwclock uses interupts while the 64 bit version does polling. This is where it hangs up. If your system just started with this issue, did you update the kernel or a driver? I've seen where drivers may cause this to occur. I have a desktop dual core AMD that does not have this problem, but my dual core laptop does. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: [opensuse-factory] Alpha 6 install
Kenneth Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 09:19 +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: Kenneth Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Trying to upgrade from alpha 5 to alpha 6 and I'm getting a lot of curl errors with an unrecognized error code. Appears to be an ftp error. Never had this on all of the previous alpha upgrades. Yes, ftp install is broken :-( - should be mentioned on the Most Annoying Bugs page and in the announcement, Andreas Follow up: Installation finished using ftp, yes it is broken and has a bug number, I was able to continue by pressing the retry button on several packages. Eventually it finished. Some other issues I will open a bug for: network setup reports could not convert 'ifcfg-eth-XXX': file already exists. I had to manually remove the file in order for the network to be configured. On the plus side my wireless is now working again and will report this in the bug I have open. Yes, please do file a bug with all details (append the file), Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpoIDHs2Q47T.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] New Samba acting up
Anders Norrbring skrev: Hiya.. I got a new Samba for my SUSE 10.1 x86_64 by automatic update last night, and now all of a sudden my Vista workstation won't connect to the shares automatically. I have the machine as a domain controller with LDAP backend, and it's been working flawless until the new update to samba-3.0.22-13.32. My log.smbd shows this as the workstation logs in, and asks for username/password, which it has NEVER done before: [2007/07/20 10:31:25, 0] smbd/server.c:main(805) smbd version 3.0.22-13.32-1354-SUSE-CODE10 started. Copyright Andrew Tridgell and the Samba Team 1992-2006 [2007/07/20 10:34:48, 0] lib/util_sock.c:get_peer_addr(1225) getpeername failed. Error was Transport endpoint is not connected [2007/07/20 10:34:48, 0] lib/util_sock.c:write_data(557) write_data: write failure in writing to client 192.168.111.30. Error Connection reset by peer [2007/07/20 10:34:48, 0] lib/util_sock.c:send_smb(765) Error writing 4 bytes to client. -1. (Connection reset by peer) [2007/07/20 10:35:22, 1] smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(700) hilda (192.168.111.30) connect to service profiles initially as user anders (uid=1002, gid=1001) (pid 5548) [2007/07/20 10:35:25, 1] smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(700) hilda (192.168.111.30) connect to service anders initially as user anders (uid=1002, gid=1001) (pid 5548) [2007/07/20 10:35:27, 1] smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(700) hilda (192.168.111.30) connect to service netlogon initially as user anders (uid=1002, gid=1001) (pid 5548) [2007/07/20 10:35:32, 1] smbd/service.c:close_cnum(897) hilda (192.168.111.30) closed connection to service profiles [2007/07/20 10:35:38, 1] smbd/service.c:close_cnum(897) hilda (192.168.111.30) closed connection to service anders [2007/07/20 10:36:00, 1] smbd/service.c:close_cnum(897) hilda (192.168.111.30) closed connection to service netlogon Then I enter username/pass for the share, and log shows: [2007/07/20 10:41:23, 1] smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(700) hilda (192.168.111.30) connect to service anders initially as user anders (uid=1002, gid=1001) (pid 5648) [2007/07/20 10:41:23, 1] smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(700) hilda (192.168.111.30) connect to service netlogon initially as user anders (uid=1002, gid=1001) (pid 5648) Then the login script tries to connect to the second share, asks for username and password again, I enter it, and the Vista net utility replies with system error 1219. Then I tried to use the expanded net use format, like this: net use * \\beata\firman /U:NORRBRING\anders the_password and that worked fine. Next attempt was: net use * \\beata\firman /U:NORRBRING\anders Then it asked for password, and I hit enter and got connected to the share. Any ideas on all of this? Anders. Maybe I should also mention that the profile is updated correctly on the server, so all changes are updated in the .msprofile.V2 directory. Anders. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: Re: [opensuse] searching for and installing a package]
2007/7/19, Jos van Kan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Denis, In view of this information you can pretty much cancel everything I wrote yesterday. I didn't realize your machine was not an x86_64. Sorry for the misinformation. I'd still try to compile with the gfortran compiler though. Regards, Jos. Jos, you're wellcome. Thank you for all information and for your time. Another thing that crossed my mind is, whether your client actually *tried* to compile his old f77 code with the new gfortran compiler, because it should be compatible with f77 code with the exception of long obsolete and deprecated constructions like arithmetic if's and computed go to's. But if this code is not older than say, 25 years, my bet would be that it would compile without a problem. Lookin at this hint, I went look for information about the CORSIKA code, and saw that it should compile with gfortran without big problems. As you assumed, the client has not actually tried to compile with gfortran. So I will try that. Really thanks! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] searching for and installing a package
An x86_64 is not the same as an ia64 (google for more info if necessary :). It would have been helpful to give us that information at the beginning. Wow sorry, I didn't have knowledge that it's differents things The ia64 is nowadays an unusual machine. There's a specific opensuse-ia64 mailing list - you may get more expert advice there. If you have any possibility to install the corsika application on another machine that uses the x86_64 architecture, I would do that. It will be a lot easier because you can just use the precompiled packages in YaST to setup your development environment. Even if you do need it on the ia64, it may be worth setting up the development environment on an x86_64 machine and building corsika on it just to see how it all works. Then with the benefit of that successful experience, you could try recompiling on the ia64. Cheers, Dave Dave, as I told in my last mail I got some informations that the CORSIKA code should compile with gfortran. I will try some experiences with that, if I don't have success I'll be back with g77. Very thanks for your time and your advices. Best regards, Denis Anjos. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] yast online update
On Friday 20 July 2007 04:05:13 Registration Account wrote: I am truly frustrated at applications like online update, open suse update, Zen, what ever you like enforcing the application set standards on an acceptable response time from the update source. When are we going to stop dictating to the comms protocols, which are far more superior in making decisions, perform retries and have all the redundancy built in. - That why we have comms protocols - To work out all that stuff. Just out of curiosity, what are you talking about? comms protocols? huh? issue to a very large audience world wide; why the hell are we still struggling to update several small files to an infinitely smaller audience. The problems aren't in the actual delivery of the files -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Life after SP1
Frankly I never really got to much of the Mgmt stuff - even though that was what I really wanted it for besides patching of course - The problem is that Zenworks never really has worked well with SLES10/SLED10. There seems to be a nasty case of version mismatch. When Zenworks 7 came out it didn't know about SLES10/SLED10 (even though it was in alpha or beta at the time). Then Zenworks 7.2 showed up - a royal disaster (an alpha product that was shipped) I couldn't even get the server to install on a SLES10 box and we won't even talk about the clients for SLES9 systems that shipped with 7.2 - they are a total mess - wouldn't even install on a SLES9 SP3 system. Now SLES/SLED 10 SP1 has shown up and Zenworks is nowhere to be found - all they seem to talk about is Zenworks 10 for Windows. It would be nice to see 7.2 work for Linux first. In case you haven't noticed my frustration with Zenworks is fairly high. I have a common reframe - Zenworks could be an amazing product if the Suse Zenworks folks ever started talking to each other. I sometimes wonder even if Zenworks even wants to deal with Suse at all. They seem much more interested in managing - patching Windows boxes. Sorry to be so negative but to date my experience hasn't be good at all - I keep hoping for more - we will see. M- On 7/20/07, Gaël Lams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I think it **could** be a really, really great product if the Zenworks folks could ever get it to deal with with SLES10 correctly. I love being able to use rug to update stuff from the command line - Thanks for the answer. Are you using only the patch management or the entire Linux Management suite? Because, with a local yum server, you could already update stuff with rug from the command line without having to install another software. Regards, Gael -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] How toooo
On 7/20/07, clifford jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ran rpm -Va and I got back a listing of unsatisfied dependencies for finger-1-39.1: netcfg is this information stored in the rpm data base and there was no intall process because of dependencies. if so what directory do I put the rpm in along with it dependancy file before I install it. I want to install using rpm my YaST2 is having a problem also cliffj First, try to rebuild the database, as it may got corrupt: # rpm --rebuiddb If the problem still persists, just install netcfg from your install cd/dvd # rpm -ivh /path/to/netcfg.rpm Cheers -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Even the most advanced equipment in the hands of the ignorant is just a pile of scrap. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] How toooo
I ran rpm -Va and I got back a listing of unsatisfied dependencies for finger-1-39.1: netcfg is this information stored in the rpm data base and there was no intall process because of dependencies. if so what directory do I put the rpm in along with it dependancy file before I install it. I want to install using rpm my YaST2 is having a problem also cliffj _ http://newlivehotmail.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] konqueror browser
On Sat, Jul 14, 2007 at 08:30:27PM -0400, Michael Derek Barnett wrote: If you have been playing around with it, go back through the apparmor profiles just to make sure you didn't set one on konq. Do note that setting an AppArmor profile on ANY KDE application is liable to give strange problems due to KDE's process model. AppArmor attaches profiles to programs at exec() time, based on the image that is used to execute the new process. KDE starts a single process, kdeinit, that incurs all the runtime startup costs associated with creating a new process. A typical KDE application links in a ton of libraries; this takes time. KDE avoids the startup time when creating new programs by simply cloning the kdeinit task and jumping to the entry point in the right library to run whatever program you need. The upshot of all this is that if you run 'konqueror', it will simply notify kdeinit to create a new instance of itself and run the konqueror widget. The first time a KDE program is run, it sets up this machinery.. So if you confine any KDE application, you run the risk that all your KDE applications will run under that profile. You can set the following environment variables to force KDE to avoid the fast-start procedures, and allow more sane use of AppArmor profiles with KDE: export KDE_EXEC_SLAVES=1 export KDE_IS_PRELINKED=1 Hope this helps :) (though sadly not the original poster..) pgpn5zAxKV7O7.pgp Description: PGP signature
[opensuse] Re: Firefox tab focus stops working
...it turned out to be a corrupt ext3 root file system! On 7/12/07, Chris Worley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using both OpenSuSE 10.2 and firefox 2.x successfully for some time now, and just recently ran into a strange problem: Soon (sometimes very quickly) after launching firefox, left-clicking the tabs does not bring focus to that tab's window. I can right-click on the tab and select the sub-menu option (i.e. close tab, reload tab), I can click the x on the tab and close the tab, I can get focus to the tab's window using the menu on the right-hand side of the tabs... I just can't left-click on the tab to bring the tab's window to focus. There are a few other anomalies that happen at this time too... like gmail (and other but not all pages) won't load/reload, the URL's won't autocomplete, find works sporadically. No other app has this problem. It seemed to occur after a recent 10.2 auto-update. So far, I've: 1) Gone through all the standard diagnostics at: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Standard_diagnostic_%28Firefox%29 2) Created a new user from scratch ... it happens to them too... it also happens to other users on the system. 3) Downgraded to older versions of both the 2 and 1.5 Firefox series... the problem effects all versions. These were the static versions from the mozilla web site. 4) The Dynamic library firefox version upgraded by OpenSuSE auto-upgrade does the same. 5) When this problem occurs, if I exit all the tabs (without exiting firefox), then start building tabs again, the problem persists. 6) I've run chkrootkit to see if someone's playing with my mind... no cracks. 7) Switched to opera, that works. Any ideas? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] List OK?
Just checking that the list is still working. I have not gotten any emails from the list today. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] List OK?
Chris Arnold wrote: Just checking that the list is still working. I have not gotten any emails from the list today. I didn't see your message either. ;-) -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Mobo got hosed. Any recommendation?
Hello all, My old and loyal desktop PC at home got hosed recently after years of servicing my - sometimes brutal - experiments on it. It's a Gigabyte GA7xx something (VIA chipset) with AMD Athlon 1GHz. I'm looking for a replacement. Something very economical in terms of pricing and it should be very friendly with Linux. And as a nice to have feature is preferably the display adapter will be able to run Beryl. Any recommendations are welcome :) Thank you. -- Fajar Priyanto | Reg'd Linux User #327841 | Linux tutorial http://linux2.arinet.org 9:26am up 1:14, 2.6.18.2-34-default GNU/Linux Let's use OpenOffice. http://www.openoffice.org pgpiflkQyDHbZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
[opensuse] Squid 2.6 transparent configuration on opensuse10.2
Hi all, I have a proxy server and also running as firewall. It uses opensuse 10.2 with Squid-2.6-STABLE6 and susefirewall2. I think I have problem with the squid installation. Client cannot access an FTP server using Firefox unless it specified completely the address of proxy server. Client also cannot access an ftp site using shell. For accessing http there is no problem, client can access the site without filling the proxy address. I know that there are some differences in setting transparent proxy in Squid-2.6. I check in squid-cache.org and in other site that the setting is: http_port 8080 transparent always_direct allow all other thing that i think important for accessing passive FTP are: ftp_list_width 32 ftp_passive on ftp_sanitycheck on ftp_telnet_protocol on I also set in SuSEfirewall2 to redirect an internal access to port 80 using port 8080 in my proxy server, something like: FW_REDIRECT=192.168.0.0/24,0/0,tcp,80,8080 I try several changes to check that it redirect all the http access and it works. But it doesn't work on redirecting ftp request. I try FW_REDIRECT=192.168.0.0/24,0/0,tcp,21,21 it doesn't work FW_REDIRECT=192.168.0.0/24,0/0,tcp,21,8080 it doesn't work It doesn't happen before when I use Squid-2.5. Anyone here have the same problem? thanks in advance edwin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-packaging] Czech man pages
Hi. All man pages are stored in latin2 encoding. Probably for historical reasons. You should recode the man pages to latin2. Command recode may be useful for that. Regards Ladislav. 2007/7/20, Marek Stopka (m4r3k) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello i making package for man-pages-cs but i can't display correct czech symbol (look at attachment). I have man pages file in UTF-8 encodding. Have you any idea where can be problem? I have that package in buildservice (http://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=man-pages-csproject=home%3Am4r3k) -- S pozdravem / Best regards Marek Stopka Kontakty / Contacts Mobil/Mobile phone: 774 59 79 40 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: www.m4r3k.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-packaging] Czech man pages
I have it in ISO-8859-2 encoding, but it not work. mantisha:/usr/share/man/cs/man1 # enca ar.1 ISO 8859-2 standard; ISO Latin 2 I have still bad character if i try command man 1 ar. Dne pátek 20 červenec 2007 10:13 Ladislav Michnovič napsal(a): Hi. All man pages are stored in latin2 encoding. Probably for historical reasons. You should recode the man pages to latin2. Command recode may be useful for that. Regards Ladislav. -- S pozdravem / Best regards Marek Stopka Kontakty / Contacts Mobil/Mobile phone: 774 59 79 40 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: www.m4r3k.org pgpdbtBcPTdhn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-packaging] Czech man pages
I have downloaded the package and it's O.K. Btw. It would be better if you gzip all the man pages. It saves disk space and man handles gzipped files transparently. Regards Ladislav. 2007/7/20, Marek Stopka (m4r3k) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have it in ISO-8859-2 encoding, but it not work. mantisha:/usr/share/man/cs/man1 # enca ar.1 ISO 8859-2 standard; ISO Latin 2 I have still bad character if i try command man 1 ar. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
