Re: [opensuse-factory] SuSE 10.3 Beta 2
Donn Washburn wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fresh Beta2 install using my old /home directory. A URL from MozillaThunderbird email message will not call up MozillaFirefox. I am using the old /home/me/.mozilla and .tunnderbird. I did find away to beat the dependency problem. That was to NOT use any of the opensuse-update sites after enabling the network. Which didn't putput the nameserver into /etc/resolv.conf after the first time reboot Loaded off the DVD with no problems from dependencies. - -- 73 de Donn Washburn I've found one dependency problem in Beta2, preload needs blktrace which is now a separate package (I opened bug #306710). Andreas Jaeger asked for blktrace to be pushed out to the mirrors on Friday, but it's not showed up. Don, can you remember where the dependency hole was? May be there are others apart from the one I reported Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Device already mounted or mountpoint busy error after some beta2 update, I guess
Sonntag, 2. September 2007 Rajko M.: On Saturday 01 September 2007 18:30, Wolfgang Woehl wrote: Hi, On a 10.3beta2 couple days ago my /dev/sdb1 was perfectly mountable. It was not in in fstab on purpose, mind you. Then something got updated by opensuse updater and sdb1 was not mountable anymore. mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt said already mounted or /mnt busy which was so not true. Errk. Googling I found people almost back in the last century debating this. The good advice pointed towards device-mapper. Turned out that device-mapper had grabbed sdb. So can _I_ do something with it too? Like use my hard disk? Not that I ever configured, invoked, worshipped device-mapper at all. dmsetup ls gave me 2 strings garbled together from device-mapper lingo and the name and serial number of my disk. Like linear-scsi-SATA_ST3500630A_serial_number (253, 0) and linear-scsi-SATA_ST3500630A_serial_number_part1 (253, 1) dmsetup remove linear-scsi-SATA_ST3500630A_serial_number_part1 and dmsetup remove linear-scsi-SATA_ST3500630A_serial_number and mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt and things are back the way they were. Am I missing something deep? Plus: Apart from police people who in this whole wide world thinks having serial numbers of your disks all over the system was cool? Could that be, like, an _option_ please? My face turns all yellow when I look at /etc/fstab these days. Can someone tell me the advantages of this? Thanks, and thank you for a pretty amazing beta2. Wolfgang It seems to be the same as this: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=307044 but looking another similar bug, leads to: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=302422 origin. Ok, https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=302422 has Comment #6 From Hannes Reinecke 2007-08-29 05:12:02 MST --- That's the dm-linear feature interfering. Please remove /etc/udev/rules.d/62-dm_linear.rules, and run dmsetup remove_all I wonder why did the device-mapper start to grab (in my case) sdb in the first place? What would the feature be? I've looked at /etc/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules and I wonder: Is that the only/the right spot to get rid of serial numbers? Wolfgang - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] High number of serious bugs in GNOME
Hello everyone, during a discussion on IRC it emerged that GNOME still has a very high number of blockers and critical bugs. As it can be seen here: https://bugzilla.novell.com/report.cgi?x_axis_field=y_axis_field=componentz_axis_field=query_format=report-tableshort_desc_type=allwordssubstrshort_desc=long_desc_type=fulltextlong_desc=classification=openSUSEproduct=openSUSE+10.3bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstrbug_file_loc=status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstrstatus_whiteboard=keywords_type=anywordskeywords=bug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=NEEDINFObug_status=REOPENEDbug_severity=Blockerbug_severity=Criticalemailassigned_to1=1emailtype1=substringemail1=emailassigned_to2=1emailreporter2=1emailqa_contact2=1emailcc2=1emailtype2=substringemail2=bugidtype=includebug_id=votes=chfieldfrom=chfieldto=Nowchfieldvalue=format=tableaction=wrapfield0-0-0=nooptype0-0-0=noopvalue0-0-0= GNOME + Evolution has 26 of them. Plus, from bugzilla it appears that GNOME + GNOME Admin/Platform + Evolution have 201 bugs: https://bugzilla.novell.com/report.cgi?x_axis_field=y_axis_field=componentz_axis_field=query_format=report-tableshort_desc_type=allwordssubstrshort_desc=long_desc_type=fulltextlong_desc=classification=openSUSEproduct=openSUSE+10.3bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstrbug_file_loc=status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstrstatus_whiteboard=keywords_type=anywordskeywords=bug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=NEEDINFObug_status=REOPENEDbug_severity=Blockerbug_severity=Criticalbug_severity=Majorbug_severity=Normalbug_severity=Minoremailassigned_to1=1emailtype1=substringemail1=emailassigned_to2=1emailreporter2=1emailqa_contact2=1emailcc2=1emailtype2=substringemail2=bugidtype=includebug_id=votes=chfieldfrom=chfieldto=Nowchfieldvalue=format=tableaction=wrapfield0-0-0=nooptype0-0-0=noopvalue0-0-0= Considering the short time before the final release (~1 month), I think it would be helpful to know the actual situation of the fixes, and if there's enough time to solve all these issues before the release date. With kind regards, Alberto - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] High number of serious bugs in GNOME
* Alberto Passalacqua [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-09-02 17:52]: during a discussion on IRC it emerged that GNOME still has a very high number of blockers and critical bugs. GNOME will be updated before release. Thanks, Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] dev null incorrect permissions
Is this happening to anyone here with a current -FACTORY? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ ls -l /dev/*null* -rw-rw-rw- 1 root root0 2007-09-02 22:45 /dev/null -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 2173 2007-09-02 22:24 /dev/null.2007-09-02.0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 2007-09-02 22:23 /dev/null.current - null.2007-09-02.0 Initial permissions on /dev/null were correct (like above) but after gdm login permissions get rw for owner, none for other. also, permissions for /dev/null.2007-09-02 are rw for owner , none for others. My problem is that after logon, opening a shell (gnome-terminal in my case) pops up some errors about /dev/null permission denied. Any fixes excluding manually setting correct permissions on /dev/*null*? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] High number of serious bugs in GNOME
On 9/2/07, Bernhard Walle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Alberto Passalacqua [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-09-02 17:52]: during a discussion on IRC it emerged that GNOME still has a very high number of blockers and critical bugs. GNOME will be updated before release. Perhaps you could clarify what this means? Is it hoped that the updates and final release will solve all the 200+ bugs? The only reason I ask about this is because I notice around the place the general sense from some users of neglect for GNOME in openSUSE, which I know is certainly as a statement unfair; but I can see why some of them might question things when you take a look at comparative figures like this (GNOME 200+ with a lot of blockers, KDE just 64, and dealing with a web browser). It would be a real shame to have GNOME slip behind as it did in 10.2 which I think everyone will agree was not ideal. Kind thoughts, -- Francis Giannaros http://francis.giannaros.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Device already mounted or mountpoint busy error after some beta2 update, I guess
Sonntag, 2. September 2007 Rajko M.: On Sunday 02 September 2007 07:42, Wolfgang Woehl wrote: I've looked at /etc/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules and I wonder: Is that the only/the right spot to get rid of serial numbers? I guess it is, but you can also use YaST Partitioner (command 'yast2 disk'). Select partition that you want to change, click on Edit button. In window that pops up click on 'Fstab Options' and in new window you can tell system to mount volume in different way. Rajko, thanks for the hint. Be aware that abandoning mount by device path was forced by increasing number of devices that can be mounted in different order on each boot which results in different path. All SATA and USB devices are prone to that. Internal sata devices could be mounted in different order each boot? In order to access them you have to know where they are located, with different path each time you have to find something that doesn't change. Serial numbers are safe bet, they will be the same even across multiple installations, or large systems with whole a lot of hard disks. Lables would be too, but than you risk to create system that is today fine, but with increase in number of devices can run out of available labels in the future. The present system will hardly hit the limit any soon. Ok, I've read up a bit on udev and am aware now of the possibilities. But I'm not running a serverfarm here. I change disks once in 2 years maybe. Anyway, if all this worked I couldn't care less, except for the serial number notion (which i realize is not trivial to get rid of if you want the above safety net). But my initial posting was about an internal device disappearing from the usual mount infrastructure. Thank you again for your advice, Wolfgang - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: Kmail issues after recent updates
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday, 1 September 2007, Sunny wrote: I just found out that it never closes the open pop3 connections, and leaves thousands of kio_pop3 processes running, even if you close the program. Yep, noticed that as well. Glad to know that others are seeing it as well. Manual killall kio_pop3 is needed to cleanup. Yep - that is what I am doing. Thanks to all. Now to submit a bug report if one isn't already opened I'm getting the same on 10.0 after an update last night, and it's making kmail unusable. I couldn't find a bug report. Has one been opened? John -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Printer on LTSP client
Ken Schneider wrote: On Sat, 2007-09-01 at 14:41 +0200, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote: Andre Truter wrote: Hi All, Hi Andre, I have a ltsp server and a thin client that works. Now I need to connect a USB printer to the client and make that work. I have googled and followed the documentation, and different variations of it, but I cannot get it to work. snip Could printer/device usage possibly be permission based, as so much else is on Linux? I don't have the solution but hope this helps. I would think that if you installed the printer as a local printer on the client and then made sure its print queue has 777 permissions. Then install a network printer on the LTSP box and point it to the printer on the client. Isn't the LTSP about running apps from the Server. Doesn't a client (in this configuration) boot _from_ the server and thereby _not_ even require/have a harddrive? That being the case there would not be anywhere to install the printer on the client. As I recall the OP even stated that the printer was on port 9100 which would imply that the printer was on a JetDirect device and make it a network printer in which case the printer can be located anywhere, even next to the client machine. What is implied and what actually is are two different things. These days I doubt a PC manufacturer, here in SA, would let a box out of their store without a HDD. The OP needs to let us know. I do not know about JetDirect devices but if it was a network printer it should surely be able to be installed on the LTSP server and shared for its users? Hylton -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: Kmail issues after recent updates
On Sunday 02 September 2007 01:00, John King wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday, 1 September 2007, Sunny wrote: I just found out that it never closes the open pop3 connections, and leaves thousands of kio_pop3 processes running, even if you close the program. Yep, noticed that as well. Glad to know that others are seeing it as well. Manual killall kio_pop3 is needed to cleanup. Yep - that is what I am doing. Thanks to all. Now to submit a bug report if one isn't already opened I'm getting the same on 10.0 after an update last night, and it's making kmail unusable. I couldn't find a bug report. Has one been opened? John #307040 -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] compressing files
On Sun, 2007-09-02 at 09:52 +0800, Art Fore wrote: On Sat, 2007-09-01 at 18:43 -0500, Rajko M. wrote: On Saturday 01 September 2007 17:57, Art Fore wrote: Is there 'system' kio_slave? Art -- Regards, Rajko. I have no idea what sysem kio_slave means. It is default install of Suse 10.2 64.bit on AMD X64 X2 running KDE. Maybe you could explain what it is and/or let me know how to find out. Sorry Art, the question was for someone that knows KDE and can guess what is wrong. The kio_slave are kind of Konqueror plugins: http://en.opensuse.org/Konqueror_Tips_and_Tricks and looking further in information that provides kinfocenter, there is kio-slave called 'system'. That is probably the one that doesn't know how to compress files on either external or internal drives, but knows how to extract compressed files. Problem is that when you connect external USB stick that protocol is used to view the drive. I would say it is minor bug if you know that exists. -- Regards, Rajko. Thanks for the info. I will try it in 10.3 Beta1 (Can't get it to upgrade to Beta3) Art This is the same problem in 10.3 Beta1 with additional problem that there is no zip format listed. Art -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] silly girls' cli copy problem
On Sunday 02 September 2007 02:07, Anders Johansson wrote: On Saturday 01 September 2007 17:51:40 primm wrote: Hi everyone. I've learned a lot by this thread. The way to go for novice webmistresses seems to be mc (what an amazing piece of kit- thanks to whoever suggested it) or rsync. I used rsync out of desperation. Did I miss something? I thought you said you used the idea of naming the directory with a dot rsync isn't bad, but I would call it serious overkill in this scenario. Hi I'm desperately trying to learn to be a good admin. I'm far from it. In Spain companies are prepared to pay you loadsa money if you can stop them getting viruses and you can speak English and Spanish. So I tried just about all methods everyone suggested. The only ones which worked first time viz me copying and pasting from this thread to my cli were the renaming as dot (yours I think) and the rsync alternative. I also used mc as my server does not have a gui. What amazes me is that hobbyists (it seems that most people on this site do not work as admins to earn a living) such as the folk on this list are so willing and eager to help. Indeed were it not for them I'd not be in the position I'm in now. You never get that in the workplace. All they do is complain that vista is so slow now I have the suse server in place. Love from Lynn. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Installing JIKES
I wish to use the Jikes Java compiler. I have read the Jikes home page, and discovered that this application is said to be supplied with SuSE, which was good news. I was unable to find Jikes* on my openSuSE v10.2; The only related file present is jikes.vim; this appears to be a plugin for vim (that was a surprise -- it seems to be a well-kept secret how one uses these plugins), along with similar files for other languages and utillities. Given that one invokes jikes with the name jikes, this led me to believe that jikes, although bundled, is not installed. I therefore turned to YaST Software Software Management, and tried to install jikes. This did locate the application, and highlighted it. After I clicked on Accept, YaST asked me for CD1, but did not give me an opportunity to insert the CD. At the bottom of the YaST screen, Next and Back were greyed out, and the only active button was Abort. A small dialog box appeared , asking me if I was interested in installing any more packages, and I answere No, pretty much out of spite. How, if at all, might I get jikes on SuSE? At the moment, it seems a more efficient use of my time to do this work on another OS. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel 1975 Home-brew with ASM-80 1978 CP/M 1981 MS-DOS 1987 Quarterdeck 1992 OS/2 - eComStation 2007 LINUX openSuSE Thirty-two years (and counting) of happy, Windows-free computing -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Printer on LTSP client
On 02/09/07, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is implied and what actually is are two different things. These days I doubt a PC manufacturer, here in SA, would let a box out of their store without a HDD. The OP needs to let us know. In this case there are no implications. The subject line actually makes it quite clear. LTSP = Linux Terminal Server Project, which is a project which allows you to connect dumb terminals (diskless workstations) to a single server. You do get special thin client units designed specifically for this job Here is a list of some of them: http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT4923746399.html Unfortunately they are quite expensive here in SA, so we build our own, using normal PC components. It is basically just a PC without any fancy hardware and without a disk. (We don't care what PC manufacturers offer in terms of PCs as we build our own, so we are not dependent on their specs) I do not know about JetDirect devices but if it was a network printer it should surely be able to be installed on the LTSP server and shared for its users? The problem was not installing the printer on the server, but getting the dumb terminal, to which the printer is connected, to see the usb port where the printer is connected. The way it works is that you connect the printer physically to a dumb terminal. Seeing that the terminal has no software installed on it, you cannot install a printer driver on it. So, you set up the boot config of the terminal to map the usb port to a JetDirect port (9100). Then you configure the printer on the server and points it to the port on the dumb terminal. I managed to solve the problem, BTW. We had 3 kernels set up on the server for the clients to use for booting, but unfortunately something went wrong with the LTSP setup and we only had a set of modules for one of the kernels. So I just changed the boot config of LTSP to use the kernel that does have modules and the problem was solved. -- Andre Truter | Software Consultant | Registered Linux user #185282 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.trusoft.co.za ~ A dinosaur is a salamander designed to Mil Spec ~ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: silly girls' cli copy problem
To answer another question in this thread, I'm just a long time software engineer who admins several of his own systems. That's getting at what I really want to know. How do you deal with people in your company who tell you how to do your job who have absolutely no idea what they are talking about without being rude? How do you explain squid? Do your peers speak English? Can you say cli and gui at management meeting? Love. Lynn -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] silly girls' cli copy problem [solved]
Hi everyone Just to say a big thank you to you all for saving my day. I have successfully solved this matter. Love from Lynn. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Installing JIKES
Have you tried the search software facility: http://benjiweber.co.uk:8080/webpin/index.jsp?searchTerm=Jikesdistro=openSUSE_102 On Sunday 02 September 2007 10:51, Stan Goodman wrote: I wish to use the Jikes Java compiler. I have read the Jikes home page, and discovered that this application is said to be supplied with SuSE, which was good news. I was unable to find Jikes* on my openSuSE v10.2; The only related file present is jikes.vim; this appears to be a plugin for vim (that was a surprise -- it seems to be a well-kept secret how one uses these plugins), along with similar files for other languages and utillities. Given that one invokes jikes with the name jikes, this led me to believe that jikes, although bundled, is not installed. I therefore turned to YaST Software Software Management, and tried to install jikes. This did locate the application, and highlighted it. After I clicked on Accept, YaST asked me for CD1, but did not give me an opportunity to insert the CD. At the bottom of the YaST screen, Next and Back were greyed out, and the only active button was Abort. A small dialog box appeared , asking me if I was interested in installing any more packages, and I answere No, pretty much out of spite. How, if at all, might I get jikes on SuSE? At the moment, it seems a more efficient use of my time to do this work on another OS. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel 1975 Home-brew with ASM-80 1978 CP/M 1981 MS-DOS 1987 Quarterdeck 1992 OS/2 - eComStation 2007 LINUX openSuSE Thirty-two years (and counting) of happy, Windows-free computing -- Bogdan Cristea -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] silly girls' cli copy problem
primm schreef: (snip) But I'm wondering. Is there anyway of getting into my cli only server from a kde client on my lan? Or does the server have to have X installed too to be able to do that? Love from Lynn. Open a console (konsole) in your kde client and type ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] to open up an ssh (secure shell, logins, passwords and packets will be encrypted) connection to the server. This will give you a cli interface. The server must have the ssh daemon running. If the ssh daemon is configured in such a way that it does not allow root logins (some are, for reasons that do not matter right now) you must use your own account name to login and use 'su' or 'sudo' to obtain root privileges. Regards, -- Jos van Kanregistered Linux user #152704, hobbyist -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Updates and other s/w management on 10.3
On Sunday 02 September 2007, Robert Lewis wrote: This window is not movable and obscures other ICONS. If you single click on the window (well popup really) it goes away but it carries on working in the background. Double click the system tray icon to show the status again. When it finishes the Blue icon has a big question mark that says: Unable to check whether upgrades are available. Is this expected behavior for the beta? Yeah, some days it works, some days it doesn't, typical early beta... John. -- -- Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Updates and other s/w management on 10.3
On Saturday 01 September 2007, Robert Lewis wrote: Why is it necessary to build a new database of patches every time I choose another YaST s/w function? The delays waiting to update or pick a new package are quite a time hit. Even if these processes just completed and I leave YaST an re-enter I have to wait again a very long time before I can choose another package. Switching between Online Update and Software Management does the same thing over again. Can't a system be designed to at least give the user the illusion that it is going faster? Cheers, Bob Not sure if this is your problem, but in Yast in Software Repositories, you can turn off Auto Update for the repositories, this is what forces zypper to re-download the full repo listing from the server everytime you so much as breathe. Instead it will just reload them from cache, which is quicker but still annoying. I've used every other major package management system out there, and I don't recall any of them being so slow, not even urpmi. I'm giving it some patience as it is under heavy development, but it had better improve by the RC's. Another thing, I hope they remember the ACID concepts before they finish zypper off, it really should complete all the package downloads first before trying to apply any packages, otherwise a download failure could leave you with a broken system. John. -- -- Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] silly girls' cli copy problem
Søndag 02 september 2007 09:49 skrev primm: On Sunday 02 September 2007 02:07, Anders Johansson wrote: On Saturday 01 September 2007 17:51:40 primm wrote: Hi everyone. I've learned a lot by this thread. The way to go for novice webmistresses seems to be mc (what an amazing piece of kit- thanks to whoever suggested it) or rsync. I used rsync out of desperation. Did I miss something? I thought you said you used the idea of naming the directory with a dot rsync isn't bad, but I would call it serious overkill in this scenario. Hi I'm desperately trying to learn to be a good admin. I'm far from it. In Spain companies are prepared to pay you loadsa money if you can stop them getting viruses and you can speak English and Spanish. So I tried just about all methods everyone suggested. The only ones which worked first time viz me copying and pasting from this thread to my cli were the renaming as dot (yours I think) and the rsync alternative. I also used mc as my server does not have a gui. What amazes me is that hobbyists (it seems that most people on this site do not work as admins to earn a living) such as the folk on this list are so willing and eager to help. Indeed were it not for them I'd not be in the position I'm in now. You never get that in the workplace. All they do is complain that vista is so slow now I have the suse server in place. Love from Lynn. Hi list and Lynn, - well one more pro sys admin here... - the reason I didn't try to help in the first place is due to simply being afraid of giving wrong advice. - In *NIX OSses, there are usually more than one way of doing things. In your scenario, I was unsure of the correct way of doing it, mainly due to the very large amount of files ( 800) which, as noted, could cause a problem when using a simple *. Also, the copy dot files is not imminently easy. - I learn all the time. - I also learned from following this thread. Best of luck! -- - Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard Novell Certified Linux Professional 10035701 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] silly girls' cli copy problem
What amazes me is that hobbyists (it seems that most people on this site do not work as admins to earn a living) such as the folk on this list are so willing and eager to help. Indeed were it not for them I'd not be in the position I'm in now. You never get that in the workplace. All they do is complain that vista is so slow now I have the suse server in place. Love from Lynn. Hi list and Lynn, - well one more pro sys admin here... - the reason I didn't try to help in the first place is due to simply being afraid of giving wrong advice. - In *NIX OSses, there are usually more than one way of doing things. In your scenario, I was unsure of the correct way of doing it, mainly due to the very large amount of files ( 800) which, as noted, could cause a problem when using a simple *. Also, the copy dot files is not imminently easy. - I learn all the time. - I also learned from following this thread. Best of luck! Hi Thanks. That's encouraging. I'm glad you said, 'I also learned from following this thread.' How do you say 'mal de mucho, consuelo de tontos' in English? Beacause that's how I feel about taking on a lan and administering it. You make me feel safe in my void of anyone else to relate to if I have a problem. Using the non enterprize version of SuSE to run a network I feel is very much in it's infancy. The only method of support is through this list. SuSE will not help you. It is a very dangerous game to play being a non supported sys admin. I think we all operate in isolation with none of us being able to communicate our real fears and ideas. I believe that it prevents open source software from progressing to a greater extent. Love from Lynn. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Updates and other s/w management on 10.3
Robert Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why is it necessary to build a new database of patches every time I choose another YaST s/w function? The delays waiting to update or pick a new package are quite a time hit. Even if these processes just completed and I leave YaST an re-enter I have to wait again a very long time before I can choose another package. Switching between Online Update and Software Management does the same thing over again. Can't a system be designed to at least give the user the illusion that it is going faster? Could you file a bugreport with some suggestions? thanks, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgprqy3yD1Gms.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] silly girls' cli copy problem
Søndag 02 september 2007 11:40 skrev primm: What amazes me is that hobbyists (it seems that most people on this site do not work as admins to earn a living) such as the folk on this list are so willing and eager to help. Indeed were it not for them I'd not be in the position I'm in now. You never get that in the workplace. All they do is complain that vista is so slow now I have the suse server in place. Love from Lynn. Hi list and Lynn, - well one more pro sys admin here... - the reason I didn't try to help in the first place is due to simply being afraid of giving wrong advice. - In *NIX OSses, there are usually more than one way of doing things. In your scenario, I was unsure of the correct way of doing it, mainly due to the very large amount of files ( 800) which, as noted, could cause a problem when using a simple *. Also, the copy dot files is not imminently easy. - I learn all the time. - I also learned from following this thread. Best of luck! Hi Thanks. That's encouraging. I'm glad you said, 'I also learned from following this thread.' How do you say 'mal de mucho, consuelo de tontos' in English? Beacause that's how I feel about taking on a lan and administering it. You make me feel safe in my void of anyone else to relate to if I have a problem. Using the non enterprize version of SuSE to run a network I feel is very much in it's infancy. The only method of support is through this list. SuSE will not help you. It is a very dangerous game to play being a non supported sys admin. I think we all operate in isolation with none of us being able to communicate our real fears and ideas. I believe that it prevents open source software from progressing to a greater extent. Love from Lynn. Hi - please allow me to disagree... - I manage a lot of systems, most of them running OpenSUSE some running SLES10 and so. - I read a lot, I try to help a little now and then, and - I get A LOT of positive feedback from this and other lists. Generally, I find the Linux community being very responsive, very responsible and very helpfull indeed. - in my experience, support from the community is A LOT better than some of the paid offers.. As I wrote earlier, I'm somewhat reluctant giving advice out of fear of giving wrong advise. I remember (many years ago, when I was a real Linux newbie) I asked a list why root couldn't start an X programme (Root was not allowed to use the X-server, fix it by going xhost + or something similar), I got an answer after 10 minutes. But it started a lenghty discussion on the list, if this advise was appropriate or not. I think it ran to 30+ answers or so :-) And a wrong advise can really steal your time. -- - Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard Novell Certified Linux Professional 10035701 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: XEN Help Please
Andrei Verovski (aka MacGuru) wrote: On Sunday 02 September 2007 00:30:26 Alexey Eremenko wrote: Not sure about Xen, but you could try KVM or VirtualBox www.virtualbox.org Thanks for the excellent idea of using KVM, the only question I have, how reliable it really is? Server should run 27/7, especially taking into account that I am going to use Trixbox telephony server under virtualization. If KVM crashes, someone of my impatient colleagues may crash something heavy on me, you know what does it mean phone system does not work at all in a busy company. Its a joke of course, but I must be 99.99% sure that it will work reliably. /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ If this is your problem, imho your best bet is to use a separate machine. After all, this is your telephony system in a busy company. ;-) Furthermore, if 99,99 % is what you want to achieve, you better look for linux on iSeries (there is a telephony solution available, indeed!) and a good high availability concept on top of it. According to http://www.eventhelix.com/RealtimeMantra/FaultHandling/system_reliability_availability.htm you are planning for a downtime of 52minutes per year. ;-);-). regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Bluetooth not visible to phone on SuSE 10.2
After upgrading to openSUSE 10.2, my computer is not visible from my phone via bluetooth anymore. I can connect to the phone via OBEX and send files from the computer, but if I want to send files from the phone, it is not able to locate the computer when you search for devices on the phone. I tried it with the gnome bluetooth applet as well as the KDE bluetooth applet. I also recreated my bluetooth setup from scratch, but it still does not help. Any idea what might be wrong? I tried it with Nokia 9300 and N70 phones, both used to be able to see the computer when I ran SUSE 10.1 and earlier. Thanks -- Andre Truter | Software Consultant | Registered Linux user #185282 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.trusoft.co.za ~ A dinosaur is a salamander designed to Mil Spec ~ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: Fixed: Firefox won't show any webpages
+++ Rajko M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-09-01 20:41:01 +++ After update? I don't remember exactly, but I don't think so, the last FireFox update was a few weeks ago, if I remember correctly? And I also had the same kind of symptoms before the reset. Only this was after some time of working with FireFox (sometimes a couple of days). And just restarting FireFox fixed the problem, so I didn't pay to much attention to it, just one of those things... After the reset the problem was there right away. Than it is some deeper problem. Program that is changing it's behavior like that might be signal of failing hardware, It's a brand new machine. So unlikely, but not impossible... or your ISP DNS server was slow and Firefox considered that IPv6 should be used instead. Very unlikely... Anyway, how do I check this? We know IPv6 ^_^ If you know what the problem is exactly, finding the solution is a lot easier. ;) It is not: - some enterprise networks use IPv6, - some public networks already use it, - it is standard that should solve lack of IP addresses and some other problems, so you want to it to be used as much as possible. Ok, but still it is uncommon to be used... Maybe IPv6 should be disabled by default in FireFox!? There is no need. I don't know exactly what developers did, but I guess it is not default IP protocol now and even when enabled it doesn't slow down browsing as before. My 'network.dns.disableIPv6' is set to 'false', and I have no problems, so good guess would be that something else makes a trouble. Probably, and I would like to find out what the real problem is, but I have no clue where to start looking... Met vriendelijke groet / Best regards, Wilfred van Velzen -- SERCOM Regeltechniek b.v. Heereweg 9 2161 AB Lisse Nederland +31 (0)252 416530 (voice) +31 (0)252 419481 (fax) http://www.sercom.nl/ Op al onze offertes, op alle opdrachten aan ons en op alle met ons gesloten overeenkomsten zijn toepasselijk de METAALUNIEVOORWAARDEN, gedeponeerd ter Griffie van de Rechtbank te Rotterdam, zoals deze luiden volgens de laatstelijk aldaar neergelegde tekst. De leveringsvoorwaarden worden u op verzoek toegezonden. --- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Changing drivers on Xorg (intel card)
2007/8/30, Ciro Iriarte [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2007/8/30, Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 2007/08/30 20:09 (GMT-0400) Ciro Iriarte apparently typed: Hi, replaced the i810 driver with intel looking for better results on getting the s-video output to work but the server is using a wrong DisplaySize leaving me with a weird desktop. Pic: http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/7962/intelln4.png I changed the config like this: Section Monitor # DisplaySize 331 207 -- Old value DisplaySize 344 222 -- New value HorizSync30-62 Identifier Monitor[0] ModelNameFD1631154WB4 LCD MONITOR Option DPMS VendorName CPT VertRefresh 43-60 UseModes Modes[0] EndSection But the x server seems to use the old value (already restarted it many times), from the logs: (II) intel(0): Supported additional Video Mode: (II) intel(0): clock: 68.9 MHz Image Size: 331 x 207 mm -- still getting the old values (II) intel(0): h_active: 1280 h_sync: 1301 h_sync_end 1333 h_blank_end 1408 h_border: 0 (II) intel(0): v_active: 800 v_sync: 801 v_sync_end 804 v_blanking: 816 v_border: 0 This is a Dell Inspiron 6400, X/SaX detects the card as 945 GM and the laptop specs state (Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950), any ideas? I can't tell what your screenshot is supposed to be showing, but here are It's the actual view from the laptop's LCD panel, i'm not tinkering yet with s-video. If you have a look at the kde panel, it's not aware of the actual panel size and the konqueror box is fully maximazed it should be covering the whole screen three changes to xorg.conf that I would try if it was my problem: I assume that's for testing with s-video, right?, i'll test it in case it's needed VertRefresh 56-61 # try this first # UseModes Modes[0] try 2nd Option NoDDC # in Section Device for the graphics card (last resort) I doubt DDC can work via an S-Video connection. -- It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible.George Washington Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ Thanks a lot Ciro Anyone using the intel driver? Ciro -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] silly girls' cli copy problem
primm wrote: Using the non enterprize version of SuSE to run a network I feel is very much in it's infancy. The only method of support is through this list. SuSE will not help you. It is a very dangerous game to play being a non supported sys admin. I think we all operate in isolation with none of us being able to communicate our real fears and ideas. I believe that it prevents open source software from progressing to a greater extent. Love from Lynn. This is one of the models of open source, including Linux. The software is free for the taking, but if you want support, you have to pay for it. If you were to buy one of the enterprise packages from Novell, you'd have support. If you want the free software, but don't want to pay for support, you have to come to lists, such as this, for support. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: Fixed: Firefox won't show any webpages
Wilfred van Velzen wrote: [...[ Program that is changing it's behavior like that might be signal of failing hardware, It's a brand new machine. So unlikely, but not impossible... or your ISP DNS server was slow and Firefox considered that IPv6 should be used instead. Very unlikely... Anyway, how do I check this? [...] Ok, but still it is uncommon to be used... [...] so good guess would be that something else makes a trouble. Probably, and I would like to find out what the real problem is, but I have no clue where to start looking... using wireshark or if you prefer the commandline, tcpdump, and catching the network packet flow for anylysis? regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: Asus P5K3 Deluxe motherboard + OpenSUSE 10.3
BandiPat wrote: On Saturday 01 September 2007, Matthew Stringer wrote: Hi, [...] Couple of things I've not pinned down, main one is the motherboard, I'm leaning towards an Asus P5K3 Deluxe as it ticks all the boxes and looks sufficiently high quality to last. http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3l2=11l3=534l4=0model=1645m odelmenu=1 Although I'm happy that the chipset will be supported I've not found any info regarding the built in periferals (i.e LAN, Wi-Fi, FireWire etc). In addition to using the machine as a regular desktop I also want to use it as part of my hobby recording studio (synth music) and have decided to take the plunge and use the DAW/studio software Linux has to offer so a nice quick stable machine is important. If anyone has an opinion on this mobo I'd be interested in hearing it. Kindest regards Matthew = You take your chances with anything ASUS teaming it up with Linux. There are better choices. bye if you don not mind, could you kindly name them? regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Of openSUSE KDE package releases and stabillity.
On Saturday 01 September 2007 22:10:44 Tero Pesonen wrote: Relating to the topic of recent openSUSE KMail packages and stability issues, now discussed on the list. I've been wondering which of these openSUSE KDE packages are actually stable. There's this stable(?) KDE3 repository alongside the Community, Backport, KDE4 etc. That depends what you mean by stable. The most stable, in terms of predictable changes happening to the packages, are the ones in 10.2. The most stable at the software level are generally the latest and greatest from the build service, which will have more bugfixes than the 10.2 packages, but may have regressions. But the packages there are being updated almost weekly. I have no idea if I should or should not update to the latest packages, which seem to be something in between 3.5.7 and 3.5.8 That sounds to me like you're interested in package stability. If it ain't broken, don't fix it, so stay with the 10.2 packages, then upgrade to 10.3 when it comes out. Critical bugs in 10.2 will of course be fixed via online update. How can one tell when these packages are stable? Or are they ever. It seems, according to the changelogs of the RPM's, that they are constantly changing. The new packages seem to fix something that went broken in the last version, while adding something new which, one can only wonder, could prove to be the next thing broken and so forth. The KDE:KDE packages from the buildservice are relatively stable since KDE 3.5 is frozen. They are the last KDE 3 packages from the kde.org repository, but track the SVN by means of a diff between the released tarball and the repository. KDE 3 forms an exception. In this case, we're currently in the middle of switching from the KDE main branch tarballs to the Enterprise Branch. This more stable, more actively maintained branch of kdepim created for enterprise use means that for future openSUSE releases using KDE 3, the kdepim3 that we use will benefit from more scrutiny and QA by a group of companies and distros with business interests in KDE PIM. However, the process of switching the suse customisations to the sources from main branch to enterprise for 10.3 has created a few hiccups and these are visible to you in the buildservice as the 10.3 work in progress gets synced out to the build service. Mine are release 43.1 and I've been happy with them, (unlike the version before them), and have not dared to upgrade anything KDE related after I upgraded to these, as I'm not sure if the newer packages would be as stable as these are. On the other hand, I have no idea what I would gain from the newer packages either. The question therefore is: When 3.5.8 will be released, how can I tell which will be the best 3.5.8 release to upgrade to? Are the first packages that will become available the closest to the vanilla 3.5.8 provided by kde dot org, and if so, should I grab them... or will they contain SUSE-specific features that may or may not cause issues that would get addressed in future 3.5.8 releases under KDE3/ repository? The SUSE packages always contain customisations consisting of a) bugfixes or improvements that for reasons of translation, feature freeze or impact couldn't be applied directly to the central KDE repository at the time we packaged and b) SUSE specific alterations that adapt the packages to the SUSE infrastructure the packages are designed to run on. a) type changes tend to migrate upstream over time. b) type changes don't. The set of customisations/patches applied are carried over between KDE point releases. Before a point release we try to upstream as many patches as possible, but some don't make it for a variety of reasons. Whether vanilla kde dot org tarballs or SUSE packages are better for you is subjective. We at SUSE work very hard to make what we feel are worthwhile improvements to the base packages from kde.org that we feel increase the value of the software to the user. You may disagree about that if you hold the belief that vanilla packages are always of high quality and distro customisations tend to mess them up. One example of how I've added to the kdepim packages is by improving the offline mode implementation so that on going offline, KMail terminates any running jobs. So if you suspend the computer, then restart, KMail won't complain a few minutes after restarting that it could not contact your IMAP server since the IMAP process still thought it was talking to the server via the network connection you had before suspending. This was too late for KDE 3.5's freeze so probably won't go upstream except to KDE 4. I'll try and formulate all this more generally and put it on the opensuse wiki somewwhere. Another question: Are the changes between these releases explained somewhere? rpm -q kdepim3 --changelog is actually a better guide to what differs between than the packages' release number.
Re: [opensuse] silly girls' cli copy problem
On Sunday 02 September 2007 13:41, James Knott wrote: primm wrote: Using the non enterprize version of SuSE to run a network I feel is very much in it's infancy. The only method of support is through this list. SuSE will not help you. It is a very dangerous game to play being a non supported sys admin. I think we all operate in isolation with none of us being able to communicate our real fears and ideas. I believe that it prevents open source software from progressing to a greater extent. Love from Lynn. This is one of the models of open source, including Linux. The software is free for the taking, but if you want support, you have to pay for it. I have to disagree. I have free support built in from here. I pay nothing for it. Within minutes I get responses. Many alternative from which to try out. some which work and some which don't. I took a job as an admin based solely upon the support I could get from this list. it's a challenge but I know no different. I know I was second best. They hired me because of my languages. Not my Linux experience. Love from Lynn x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] silly girls' cli copy problem
primm wrote: On Sunday 02 September 2007 13:41, James Knott wrote: primm wrote: Using the non enterprize version of SuSE to run a network I feel is very much in it's infancy. The only method of support is through this list. SuSE will not help you. It is a very dangerous game to play being a non supported sys admin. I think we all operate in isolation with none of us being able to communicate our real fears and ideas. I believe that it prevents open source software from progressing to a greater extent. Love from Lynn. This is one of the models of open source, including Linux. The software is free for the taking, but if you want support, you have to pay for it. I have to disagree. I have free support built in from here. I pay nothing for it. Within minutes I get responses. Many alternative from which to try out. some which work and some which don't. I took a job as an admin based solely upon the support I could get from this list. it's a challenge but I know no different. I know I was second best. They hired me because of my languages. Not my Linux experience. Love from Lynn x I guess I should have said official support. I agree, the support here is good. However, some companies want support from a supplier. In that case, they have to go with one of the enterprise packages or hire someone. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] 10.3 Beta2 severily broken
Done a complete reinstall of 10.3 Beta2 as I could not get the Beta1 to Beta2 upgrade to work. The reinstall is a disaster. I downloaded and installed the 9639 nvidia driver successfully. Try running Sax2, it runs, but will not save the settings, (kills itself) or event test (again, kills itself). I says video driver does not support 3d, but I know it does as it did in 10.2 and 10.3 beta1. Screen comes up in 1024X768 instead of 1680X1050. Will not mount usb stick drive. Shows up in MyComputer as media:sdf1, but try to mount it, is says no such device sdf1 or device is busy. Also try mounting it manually, says no such device /dev/sdf1 Art -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Asus P5K3 Deluxe motherboard + OpenSUSE 10.3
On 2007/09/02 07:51 (GMT-0400) Eberhard Roloff apparently typed: BandiPat wrote: You take your chances with anything ASUS teaming it up with Linux. There are better choices. if you don not mind, could you kindly name them? The real point is that ASUS support staff is openly hostile to Linux users who require and attempt to get support (e.g., RMA for defective product) from ASUS. So, the choices are all others until such time as it gets documented which if any of the others take a similar attitude to ASUS. http://www.mozillaquest.com/Linux04/Asus_Sucks_Story-01.html My most recent success with motherboard tech support was with Biostar. I purchased a several years old M7NCD http://www.biostar-usa.com/mbdetails.asp?model=m7ncd new in box from an online vendor last fall. 7 months later it died as a consequence of a power supply failure. I emailed tech support. They emailed me an RMA authorization back. No stupid questions about what OS was installed. Board was replaced with new in box complete with manual and accessories M7NCD Ultra http://www.biostar-usa.com/mbdetails.asp?model=M7NCD%20ULTRA . This system using this board has about 8 operating systems installed, including 10.2 and 10.3Beta2. ASUS' stupid web site is reason enough to avoid ASUS. I just tried to get a BIOS update there yesterday. Finding the P5A-B BIOS was easy, but finding on site the required update tool to install it was impossible. I was lucky enough to guess one I already downloaded for a P5S-B many years ago would be compatible. -- It yet remains a problem to be solved in human affairs, whether any free government can be permanent, where the public worship of God, and the support of religion, constitute no part of the policy or duty of the state in any assignable shape. Chief Justice Joseph Story Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] silly girls' cli copy problem
Søndag 02 september 2007 14:11 skrev primm: On Sunday 02 September 2007 13:41, James Knott wrote: primm wrote: Using the non enterprize version of SuSE to run a network I feel is very much in it's infancy. The only method of support is through this list. SuSE will not help you. It is a very dangerous game to play being a non supported sys admin. I think we all operate in isolation with none of us being able to communicate our real fears and ideas. I believe that it prevents open source software from progressing to a greater extent. Love from Lynn. This is one of the models of open source, including Linux. The software is free for the taking, but if you want support, you have to pay for it. I have to disagree. I have free support built in from here. I pay nothing for it. Within minutes I get responses. Many alternative from which to try out. some which work and some which don't. I took a job as an admin based solely upon the support I could get from this list. it's a challenge but I know no different. I know I was second best. They hired me because of my languages. Not my Linux experience. Love from Lynn x - just a short note... - it may be that you were the second best at the time of hiring. - but that situation will change :-) -- - Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard Novell Certified Linux Professional 10035701 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] silly girls' cli copy problem
On Sunday 02 September 2007 09:49:16 primm wrote: I'm desperately trying to learn to be a good admin. I'm far from it. In Spain companies are prepared to pay you loadsa money if you can stop them getting viruses and you can speak English and Spanish. So I tried just about all methods everyone suggested. The only ones which worked first time viz me copying and pasting from this thread to my cli were the renaming as dot (yours I think) and the rsync alternative. I also used mc as my server does not have a gui. Well shopt -s extglob cp -a !(members) members should have worked, and so should export GLOBIGNORE=members cp -a * members I did test them before sending off the suggestions (although I did have a typo in there, so yes, a copy/paste wouldn't have worked) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] silly girls' cli copy problem
On Sunday 02 September 2007 11:19:54 Verner Kjærsgaard wrote: - In *NIX OSses, there are usually more than one way of doing things. In your scenario, I was unsure of the correct way of doing it, mainly due to the very large amount of files ( 800) which, as noted, could cause a problem when using a simple * ISTR the limit on a command line is 32K characters, so if you have very long file names, it would be a problem. But in most cases, you have to go way beyond 800 files before it becomes something to worry about. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Updates and other s/w management on 10.3
On Sunday 02 September 2007 04:14, John Layt wrote: I've used every other major package management system out there, and I don't recall any of them being so slow, not even urpmi. patience as it is under heavy development, but it had better improve by the RC's. Better no rush. One of things that slows down the package management, besides that there are functions that will be optimized, is heavy logging necessary to hunt down bugs. What I value are improvements that I see, not time frame it happens. Another thing, I hope they remember the ACID concepts before they finish zypper off, it really should complete all the package downloads first before trying to apply any packages, otherwise a download failure could leave you with a broken system. It happens and it is normal during development, specially under heavy load, when you have to find time to go trough bug reports that are not always package management software although it is problem with software installation. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Miniature desktop slideshow ?
Hi, My son has just purchased a vista laptop (needed for college). Whilst vista looks and feels awfull the miniature desktop slideshow in the side-bar is pleasant. Does anyone know of a linux equivalent ? All the slideshow progs I can find seem designed to run full screen. In an ideal world one would be able to display images either by folder, or by tag. TIA Francesco -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Of openSUSE KDE package releases and stabillity.
On Sunday 02 September 2007, Will Stephenson wrote: On Saturday 01 September 2007 22:10:44 Tero Pesonen wrote: Relating to the topic of recent openSUSE KMail packages and stability issues, now discussed on the list. I've been wondering which of these openSUSE KDE packages are actually stable. There's this stable(?) KDE3 repository alongside the Community, Backport, KDE4 etc. That depends what you mean by stable. The most stable, in terms of predictable changes happening to the packages, are the ones in 10.2. The most stable at the software level are generally the latest and greatest from the build service, which will have more bugfixes than the 10.2 packages, but may have regressions. ... [rest snipped] Thanks for your detailed reply! Regards, Tero Pesonen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Updates and other s/w management on 10.3
On Sunday 02 September 2007 11:14:41 am John Layt wrote: Not sure if this is your problem, but in Yast in Software Repositories, you can turn off Auto Update for the repositories, this is what forces zypper to re-download the full repo listing from the server everytime you so much as breathe. Instead it will just reload them from cache, which is quicker but still annoying. Even if autorefresh is on, refreshing repos is smart. It only download changed, non available files. (except for the repo index, which is used to check if it changed) Duncan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Updates and other s/w management on 10.3
Andreas Jaeger wrote: Can't a system be designed to at least give the user the illusion that it is going faster? the point is an update of the data is necessary only when Yast install don't find on the server the package it looks for. you could then add the refresh option on the error message that is displayed at this time. you could also make this update nightly jdd -- http://www.dodin.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.3 Beta2 severily broken
On Sunday 02 September 2007 07:41, Art Fore wrote: Done a complete reinstall of 10.3 Beta2 as I could not get the Beta1 to Beta2 upgrade to work. The reinstall is a disaster. I downloaded and installed the 9639 nvidia driver successfully. Try running Sax2, it runs, but will not save the settings, (kills itself) or event test (again, kills itself). I says video driver does not support 3d, but I know it does as it did in 10.2 and 10.3 beta1. Screen comes up in 1024X768 instead of 1680X1050. Please post /var/log/SaX2.log to start from somewhere. Will not mount usb stick drive. Shows up in MyComputer as media:sdf1, but try to mount it, is says no such device sdf1 or device is busy. Also try mounting it manually, says no such device /dev/sdf1 Try advice in https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=302422 ... Please remove /etc/udev/rules.d/62-dm_linear.rules, and run dmsetup remove_all -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Miniature desktop slideshow ?
On Sunday 02 September 2007 14:09:55 Francesco Scaglioni wrote: My son has just purchased a vista laptop (needed for college). Whilst vista looks and feels awfull the miniature desktop slideshow in the side-bar is pleasant. Does anyone know of a linux equivalent ? All the slideshow progs I can find seem designed to run full screen. In an ideal world one would be able to display images either by folder, or by tag. In Gwenview, Settings-Configure Gwenview-SlideShow-Start in fullscreen mode. This works by folder. You can turn off the toolbars with the Settings menu too; and if you want to go the whole way, window borders using the window (alt-f3) menu. For KDE 4 there is the Frame plasmoid which gives you a picture frame showing various pics on the desktop or in the sidebar, but this is not yet in the SUSE KDE 4 packages. Expect it on the next major iteration of KDE 4 packages though. Will -- Desktop Engineer KDE Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.3 Beta2 severily broken
On Sun, 2007-09-02 at 20:41 +0800, Art Fore wrote: Done a complete reinstall of 10.3 Beta2 as I could not get the Beta1 to Beta2 upgrade to work. The reinstall is a disaster. I downloaded and installed the 9639 nvidia driver successfully. Try running Sax2, it runs, but will not save the settings, (kills itself) or event test (again, kills itself). I says video driver does not support 3d, but I know it does as it did in 10.2 and 10.3 beta1. Screen comes up in 1024X768 instead of 1680X1050. Will not mount usb stick drive. Shows up in MyComputer as media:sdf1, but try to mount it, is says no such device sdf1 or device is busy. Also try mounting it manually, says no such device /dev/sdf1 Art Automounting of the USB stick fixed itself after rebooting. I got the nvidia fixed by using the nvidia configuration tool under system other programs, Nvidia, however, it still did not save the resolution correctly. I set it in the GUI to 1680 X 1050, but it saved as 1600 X 1200. It did recognize the monitor correctly though. Now I go to Yast, Software management, it starts downloading etc, them comes up with [liby2] genericfrontend.cc(signal_handler):59 got signal 11 at YCP file /usr/share/YaST2/clients/inst_packages.ycp:39 /sbin/yast2: line 385: 6563 Segmentation fault $ybindir/y2base moduel $@ SELECTED_GUI $Y2_GEOMETRY $YTQT_ARGS Also super user file manager interface is completely different than normal or home file manager interface. I always set view mode to detailed list. In the new one, you select view mode and get an icon with ?Dolphin Part. Must be something from KDE 4, but is there any way to fix this? Even changing the normal konqueror home icon to open as other user and root, it still does it. Art -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.3 Beta2 severily broken
On Sun, 2007-09-02 at 08:41 -0500, Rajko M. wrote: On Sunday 02 September 2007 07:41, Art Fore wrote: Done a complete reinstall of 10.3 Beta2 as I could not get the Beta1 to Beta2 upgrade to work. The reinstall is a disaster. I downloaded and installed the 9639 nvidia driver successfully. Try running Sax2, it runs, but will not save the settings, (kills itself) or event test (again, kills itself). I says video driver does not support 3d, but I know it does as it did in 10.2 and 10.3 beta1. Screen comes up in 1024X768 instead of 1680X1050. Please post /var/log/SaX2.log to start from somewhere. Will not mount usb stick drive. Shows up in MyComputer as media:sdf1, but try to mount it, is says no such device sdf1 or device is busy. Also try mounting it manually, says no such device /dev/sdf1 Try advice in https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=302422 ... Please remove /etc/udev/rules.d/62-dm_linear.rules, and run dmsetup remove_all -- Regards, Rajko. Here it is. I set the display to LCD 1680XX1050 60 Hz, 16X10 aspect ratio. # /.../ # SaX generated X11 config file # Created on: 2007-09-02T20:21:43+0800. # # Version: 8.1 # Contact: Marcus Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2005 # Contact: SaX-User list https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/sax-users # # Automatically generated by [SaX2] (8.1) # PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE! # Section Files FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/local FontPath /usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Type1 FontPath /usr/share/fonts/URW FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Speedo FontPath /usr/share/fonts/PEX FontPath /usr/share/fonts/cyrillic FontPath /usr/share/fonts/latin2/misc:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/latin2/75dpi:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/latin2/100dpi:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/latin2/Type1 FontPath /usr/share/fonts/latin7/75dpi:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/baekmuk:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/japanese:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/kwintv FontPath /usr/share/fonts/truetype FontPath /usr/share/fonts/uni:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/CID FontPath /usr/share/fonts/ucs/misc:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/ucs/75dpi:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/ucs/100dpi:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/hellas/misc:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/hellas/75dpi:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/hellas/100dpi:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/hellas/Type1 FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc/sgi:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/xtest FontPath /opt/kde3/share/fonts InputDevices /dev/gpmdata InputDevices /dev/input/mice EndSection Section Module Load dbe Load type1 Load freetype Load extmod Load glx EndSection Section ServerFlags Option AllowMouseOpenFail on EndSection Section InputDevice Driver kbd Identifier Keyboard[0] Option Protocol Standard Option XkbLayout us Option XkbModel microsoftpro Option XkbRules xfree86 EndSection Section InputDevice Driver mouse Identifier Mouse[1] Option Buttons 5 Option Device /dev/input/mice Option Name Logitech Optical USB Mouse Option Protocol explorerps/2 Option Vendor Sysp Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection Section Monitor Option CalcAlgorithm XServerPool HorizSync31-48 Identifier Monitor[0] ModelName[EMAIL PROTECTED] Option DPMS VendorName -- VESA VertRefresh 50-60 UseModes Modes[0] EndSection Section Modes Identifier Modes[0] EndSection Section Device BoardNameGeForce 7300 GT BusID2:0:0 Driver nv Identifier Device[0] VendorName NVidia EndSection Section Screen DefaultDepth 16 SubSection Display Depth 15 Modes 1024x768 EndSubSection
Re: [opensuse] silly girls' cli copy problem
On Sunday 02 September 2007 03:12, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote: ... As I wrote earlier, I'm somewhat reluctant giving advice out of fear of giving wrong advise. I think you should just go ahead. When you're unsure of something, say so. Or do what I sometimes do, use it as an opportunity to look something up. That way you remember it better and knowledge is spread. And keep in mind, this is an active list with lots of subscribers. If you say something even a little wrong, someone will probably correct you. And even if they don't, when someone tries it out and it doesn't work, they'll let you know. Live and learn! ... But it started a lenghty discussion on the list, if this advise was appropriate or not. I think it ran to 30+ answers or so :-) And a wrong advise can really steal your time. Be straightforward about what you do know and what you don't know and when you're simply uncertain and you've discharged your responsibility to honesty. Verner Kjærsgaard Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Up to date bonding documentation ?
On Thu, Aug 30, Frank Bonnet wrote: I've found some docs about bonding but it is written that it is an obsolete page ! What is the good doc page URL for opensuse 10.2 ? man ifcfg-bonding -- ciao, christian 睡眠不足はいい仕事の敵だ。 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: silly girls' cli copy problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jonathan Arnold wrote: BandiPat wrote: On Saturday 01 September 2007, primm wrote: simplist answer: cp * members/ lose the -a it won't try to copy members to itself. It won't copy all the folders (sic: directories). I tried that but then I lose the permission settings I made on the original directores and files.:-( To repeat. It just has to be mc or rsync. But I'm wondering. Is there anyway of getting into my cli only server from a kde client on my lan? Or does the server have to have X installed too to be able to do that? Love from Lynn. == Lynn, I've watched all these shell commands in this thread and nobody has mentioned that you could use something like Konqueror for what you want to do easily. Just to copy, open konqueror as file manager, do a split window from the menu, gather your directories one each in either pane, then copy. Click drag. Simple quick and I'm assuming you are using KDE as your window manager. I've also found filezilla just recently, which I like for the same functions in xfce4. One thing the OP had as a limitation was no GUI. I would have thought the . trick should have worked (easier to remember, IMO, than the rsync command): $ mkdir .members $ cp -a * .members $ mv .members members BTW, I just made this a Question of the Day on Linux Brain Dump! Readers here aren't allowed to answer it:-) With a GUI, I would have opened the folder, done a select all, ctrl-clicked the members folder, and dragged the rest to the members folder. A problem is that under Konqueror, there doesn't seem to be an easy way to preserve the attributes (ala -a). Under Krusader (my fav file manager these days), if you right click on Copy..., there's an option to preserve the attributes. To answer another question in this thread, I'm just a long time software engineer who admins several of his own systems. BTW I first came across this peculiarity of cp (the hard way crashing a SUN workstation after a typo ;-) ) 20 years ago and I as I was a bit surprised that the recursive self copy of a directory was still not picked up as something that is probably not a good thing to allow to happen, so I decided to do a little test (nice and safely on a floppy :-) ). The result was interesting, the files copied OK and a empty copy of the directory appeared and error about copying a directory on to itself occurred. The original held... fileA fileB test test2 where test and test2 are directories after.. cp -a + test one ended up with test containing fileA fileB test test2 with test with the original contents of test... (After performing a second ... cp -a * test test/test had the contents fileA fileB test test2 and so on ad infinitum... but that is to be expected) so it occurs to me that cp -a * test ; rmdir test/test is probably equally OK if test is empty !?!... Now this could be a quirk due to the FAT fs on the floppy... maybe someone is prepared to risk a partition (and possibly their sanity) to verify this on another FS and maybe we have a 'Much ado about nothing' scenario. To the other question I have worked as a, programmers, systems programmer, systems admin for a long time (mainly in an academic environment)... - -- == I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG2tH9asN0sSnLmgIRAh1HAKC/tRjxD4BBeU4F1fU02KA5MpKqzwCfcetU DtV7XGRqQEoSV+fdaeZzUeI= =kftn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] No icons, distorted fonts
I don't know what happens, but now, when I start the system, I have lost all icons (I can see the task bar, but no visible buttons, as for example the K Menu). Same phenomenon when I use an application (KMail), the buttons from the toolbar are not visible. When I start a terminal, the fonts in terminal are distorted, but not the fonts which are displayed in the window border. I have not updated my system, nor installed something else, all happens suddenly with no apparent reason. -- Can you give some suggestions ? Bogdan Cristea -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] No icons, distorted fonts
Hi Pete Yes, it is related to something in my home dir. When I am logged as root all seems normal. Bogdan On Sunday 02 September 2007 18:22, you wrote: Bogdan Cristea wrote: I don't know what happens, but now, when I start the system, I have lost all icons (I can see the task bar, but no visible buttons, as for example the K Menu). Same phenomenon when I use an application (KMail), the buttons from the toolbar are not visible. When I start a terminal, the fonts in terminal are distorted, but not the fonts which are displayed in the window border. I have not updated my system, nor installed something else, all happens suddenly with no apparent reason. -- Can you give some suggestions ? Bogdan Cristea Hi Bogdan Do you get the same problem if you log in as a different user? Just checking to see if this is related to something in your home directory. Cheers Pete -- Bogdan Cristea -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Updates and other s/w management on 10.3
On Sunday 02 September 2007 08:37, jdd wrote: the point is an update of the data is necessary only when Yast install don't find on the server the package it looks for. YaST doesn't browse server to see what is there, or ask for fileversion and when it can't find it than update local database. If there is change on server, probably written in one small file that is fast to download, it will download changed files. The present feeling that is still slow is produced by fact that in Beta as installation source is used Factory that has always a lot of changes, and YaST has to update status very often, most of the time on every start. Once 10.3 get released the biggest repository (oss) that takes most of the time for update will be static, there will be no need for update and YaST will fly. That is what I have seen when Beta2 was released. Factory was frozen few days, and YaST sw_single was starting very fast. Of course there is place for improvement. One that I really would like to see is YOU. It should not look for other repositories than update. The part of it's function, security updates, requires known source of update, you can't allow 3rd party repositories to get in game trough dependencies, and that makes scan of all repositories pointless. Second possible speedup would be to use few mirrors at once if user has high speed Internet. Smart uses multiple connections, though I don't know is it with different mirrors. It downloads metadata very fast. That feeling is amplified with graphic layout that shows many downloads at once. you could also make this update nightly Right, but as mentioned above with Factory it will make not much difference, and later with static repo it would disappear as a problem. Besides, not many desktop users leave computer on all the time. Second, main number of complain comes from users used to wait until task is done, because many GUI programs tend to be designed to ask for permanent attention, insted to ask whatever has to be asked in the begin and then do their job in background. Even with very slow software management it is possible to do other tasks, and from time to time check what is done. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.3 Beta2 severily broken
On Sunday 02 September 2007 08:54, Art Fore wrote: On Sun, 2007-09-02 at 20:41 +0800, Art Fore wrote: Done a complete reinstall of 10.3 Beta2 as I could not get the Beta1 to Beta2 upgrade to work. The reinstall is a disaster. I downloaded and installed the 9639 nvidia driver successfully. Try running Sax2, it runs, but will not save the settings, (kills itself) or event test (again, kills itself). I says video driver does not support 3d, but I know it does as it did in 10.2 and 10.3 beta1. Screen comes up in 1024X768 instead of 1680X1050. Will not mount usb stick drive. Shows up in MyComputer as media:sdf1, but try to mount it, is says no such device sdf1 or device is busy. Also try mounting it manually, says no such device /dev/sdf1 Art Automounting of the USB stick fixed itself after rebooting. I got the nvidia fixed by using the nvidia configuration tool under system other programs, Nvidia, however, it still did not save the resolution correctly. I set it in the GUI to 1680 X 1050, but it saved as 1600 X 1200. It did recognize the monitor correctly though. SaX log tells that selected monitor is VESA 1024x768. The xorg wasn't able to detect any monitor. It attempted, but nothing found. Now I go to Yast, Software management, it starts downloading etc, them comes up with [liby2] genericfrontend.cc(signal_handler):59 got signal 11 at YCP file /usr/share/YaST2/clients/inst_packages.ycp:39 /sbin/yast2: line 385: 6563 Segmentation fault $ybindir/y2base moduel $@ SELECTED_GUI $Y2_GEOMETRY $YTQT_ARGS Someone else should comment on this. Also super user file manager interface is completely different than normal or home file manager interface. I always set view mode to detailed list. In the new one, you select view mode and get an icon with ?Dolphin Part. Must be something from KDE 4, but is there any way to fix this? Even changing the normal konqueror home icon to open as other user and root, it still does it. Watch for text next to icon, is it KDE or KDE4 program. KDE4 is still (very) buggy, you want KDE programs for setup purposes. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Up to date bonding documentation ?
On Friday 31 August 2007 10:37, Christian Zoz wrote: On Thu, Aug 30, Frank Bonnet wrote: I've found some docs about bonding but it is written that it is an obsolete page ! What is the good doc page URL for opensuse 10.2 ? man ifcfg-bonding Hi Christian, If Frank prefer URL, in Konqueror Location field: man:ifcfg-bonding ;-) http://en.opensuse.org/Bonding http://en.opensuse.org/Bonded_Interfaces_With_Optional_VLAN BTW, as coauthor of ifcfg-bonding manual, can you see above links. First probably needs update for newer versions of SUSE. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Updates and other s/w management on 10.3
Rajko M. wrote: On Sunday 02 September 2007 08:37, jdd wrote: the point is an update of the data is necessary only when Yast install don't find on the server the package it looks for. YaST doesn't browse server to see what is there, or ask for fileversion and when it can't find it than update local database. yes it does, of course. I don't speak of beta here, but of 10.x stable... the original folder do never change, of course, so there is no need for test or problem, but any other do (update, guru, packman...) and if it's not fresh it complaining not finding the package you need (only if there is a newer package, of course). It says I don't find the CDXX, even for the net and ask for what must be done... Right, but as mentioned above with Factory it will make not much difference, doesn't matter really, nobody use factory for day to day work Besides, not many desktop users leave computer on all the time. many do, but not all, but this is easy to implement and usefull for some (You works that way or did at least) their job in background. Even with very slow software management it is possible to do other tasks, and from time to time check what is done. it's very boring to install a new hardware and have to wait hours... for example a new scanner needs sane... jdd -- http://www.dodin.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] More about installation of the Jikes compiler
Sorry I am unable to thread this message with those that have gone before. I have to use a different mail client, which is a consequence of the progress of Jikes. To review: I had been unable to install Jikes, and Bogdan was kind enough to direct me to http://benjiweber.co.uk:8080/webpin/index.jsp?searchTerm=Jikesdistro=openSUSE_102, which contains a pointer to a site at which the jikes package is available. I found and selected the x86_64 flavor of the program, to match my hardware. Installing the package seemed successful (there was a notice announcing this). I rebooted, to assure myself that the installation actually took. Writing jikes in the Search field of the lizard menu brought up a line reading Run 'usr/bin/jikes', and I clicked on it -- which produced nothing visible. (Running jikes with no arguments is supposed to bring up a help screen). Much worse, the three Java programs on which I rely no longer start; clicking on their desktop icons does nothing whatever. Apparently jikes, which is itself a Java program has done somehow screwed up the Java installation. I tried to start one of the java programs manually, by which is easy to do, and which I have done before. The result is as follows: * [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/bin/jftp java -jar lib/jftp.jar Exception in thread main java.awt.AWTError: Cannot load AWT toolkit: gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit at java.awt.Toolkit.getDefaultToolkit(libgcj.so.7) at java.awt.Font.tk(libgcj.so.7) at java.awt.Font.getPeerFromToolkit(libgcj.so.7) at java.awt.Font.init(libgcj.so.7) at javax.swing.plaf.FontUIResource.init(libgcj.so.7) at javax.swing.plaf.metal.DefaultMetalTheme.clinit(libgcj.so.7) at java.lang.Class.initializeClass(libgcj.so.7) at javax.swing.plaf.metal.MetalLookAndFeel.createDefaultTheme(libgcj.so.7) at javax.swing.plaf.metal.MetalLookAndFeel.init(libgcj.so.7) at javax.swing.UIManager.clinit(libgcj.so.7) at java.lang.Class.initializeClass(libgcj.so.7) at com.myjavaworld.jftp.JFTPPreferences.init(Unknown Source) at com.myjavaworld.jftp.am.n(Unknown Source) at com.myjavaworld.jftp.am.clinit(Unknown Source) at java.lang.Class.initializeClass(libgcj.so.7) at com.myjavaworld.jftp.JFTPApplication.init(Unknown Source) at com.myjavaworld.jftp.JFTPApplication.main(Unknown Source) Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit at java.lang.Class.forName(libgcj.so.7) at java.awt.Toolkit.getDefaultToolkit(libgcj.so.7) ...16 more * I have no idea how to proceed in this case, and would be grateful for any advice or comment. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Asus P5K3 Deluxe motherboard + OpenSUSE 10.3
On Sun, 2007-09-02 at 08:54 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: On 2007/09/02 07:51 (GMT-0400) Eberhard Roloff apparently typed: BandiPat wrote: You take your chances with anything ASUS teaming it up with Linux. There are better choices. if you don not mind, could you kindly name them? The real point is that ASUS support staff is openly hostile to Linux users who require and attempt to get support (e.g., RMA for defective product) from ASUS. So, the choices are all others until such time as it gets documented which if any of the others take a similar attitude to ASUS. http://www.mozillaquest.com/Linux04/Asus_Sucks_Story-01.html My most recent success with motherboard tech support was with Biostar. I purchased a several years old M7NCD http://www.biostar-usa.com/mbdetails.asp?model=m7ncd new in box from an online vendor last fall. 7 months later it died as a consequence of a power supply failure. I emailed tech support. They emailed me an RMA authorization back. No stupid questions about what OS was installed. Board was replaced with new in box complete with manual and accessories M7NCD Ultra http://www.biostar-usa.com/mbdetails.asp?model=M7NCD%20ULTRA . This system using this board has about 8 operating systems installed, including 10.2 and 10.3Beta2. I've never heard of someone being asked what OS/Software they were running when returning faulty hardware, if I had a faulty mobo I'd return it to the vendor not the manufacturer so can't see ever having to speak to Asus or anyone else. A fault would cause problems regardless of OS. The Biostar board you link to is about a million miles away from the Asus one I was enquiring about (Biostar only make budget boards anyway), the only alternative I've found offering a simler specification is Abit's IP35 Pro board. But in my experience Abit boards are prone to dying. Quite like SuperMicro but they don't offer a similar product. Agreed that BIOS updating under Linux is still a complete PITA as there's too much reliance on Windows, MSDOS or floppy disks! Matthew -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] More about installation of the Jikes compiler
How do you have installed Jikes? I recommend using yast or zypper by adding the url where the package is located and then install it. Using zypper from CLI, the commands are (run as root): zypper sa http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.2/repo/oss/suse zypper in jikes For other java programs, you could try to update your installation using the above method. On Sunday 02 September 2007 20:28, Stan Goodman wrote: Sorry I am unable to thread this message with those that have gone before. I have to use a different mail client, which is a consequence of the progress of Jikes. To review: I had been unable to install Jikes, and Bogdan was kind enough to direct me to http://benjiweber.co.uk:8080/webpin/index.jsp?searchTerm=Jikesdistro=open SUSE_102, which contains a pointer to a site at which the jikes package is available. I found and selected the x86_64 flavor of the program, to match my hardware. Installing the package seemed successful (there was a notice announcing this). I rebooted, to assure myself that the installation actually took. Writing jikes in the Search field of the lizard menu brought up a line reading Run 'usr/bin/jikes', and I clicked on it -- which produced nothing visible. (Running jikes with no arguments is supposed to bring up a help screen). Much worse, the three Java programs on which I rely no longer start; clicking on their desktop icons does nothing whatever. Apparently jikes, which is itself a Java program has done somehow screwed up the Java installation. I tried to start one of the java programs manually, by which is easy to do, and which I have done before. The result is as follows: * [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/bin/jftp java -jar lib/jftp.jar Exception in thread main java.awt.AWTError: Cannot load AWT toolkit: gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit at java.awt.Toolkit.getDefaultToolkit(libgcj.so.7) at java.awt.Font.tk(libgcj.so.7) at java.awt.Font.getPeerFromToolkit(libgcj.so.7) at java.awt.Font.init(libgcj.so.7) at javax.swing.plaf.FontUIResource.init(libgcj.so.7) at javax.swing.plaf.metal.DefaultMetalTheme.clinit(libgcj.so.7) at java.lang.Class.initializeClass(libgcj.so.7) at javax.swing.plaf.metal.MetalLookAndFeel.createDefaultTheme(libgcj.so.7) at javax.swing.plaf.metal.MetalLookAndFeel.init(libgcj.so.7) at javax.swing.UIManager.clinit(libgcj.so.7) at java.lang.Class.initializeClass(libgcj.so.7) at com.myjavaworld.jftp.JFTPPreferences.init(Unknown Source) at com.myjavaworld.jftp.am.n(Unknown Source) at com.myjavaworld.jftp.am.clinit(Unknown Source) at java.lang.Class.initializeClass(libgcj.so.7) at com.myjavaworld.jftp.JFTPApplication.init(Unknown Source) at com.myjavaworld.jftp.JFTPApplication.main(Unknown Source) Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit at java.lang.Class.forName(libgcj.so.7) at java.awt.Toolkit.getDefaultToolkit(libgcj.so.7) ...16 more * I have no idea how to proceed in this case, and would be grateful for any advice or comment. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- Bogdan Cristea -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: Asus P5K3 Deluxe motherboard + OpenSUSE 10.3
Felix Miata wrote: On 2007/09/02 07:51 (GMT-0400) Eberhard Roloff apparently typed: BandiPat wrote: You take your chances with anything ASUS teaming it up with Linux. There are better choices. if you don not mind, could you kindly name them? The real point is that ASUS support staff is openly hostile to Linux users who require and attempt to get support (e.g., RMA for defective product) from ASUS. So, the choices are all others until such time as it gets documented which if any of the others take a similar attitude to ASUS. http://www.mozillaquest.com/Linux04/Asus_Sucks_Story-01.html My most recent success with motherboard tech support was with Biostar. I purchased a several years old M7NCD http://www.biostar-usa.com/mbdetails.asp?model=m7ncd new in box from an online vendor last fall. 7 months later it died as a consequence of a power supply failure. I emailed tech support. They emailed me an RMA authorization back. No stupid questions about what OS was installed. Board was replaced with new in box complete with manual and accessories M7NCD Ultra http://www.biostar-usa.com/mbdetails.asp?model=M7NCD%20ULTRA . This system using this board has about 8 operating systems installed, including 10.2 and 10.3Beta2. ASUS' stupid web site is reason enough to avoid ASUS. I just tried to get a BIOS update there yesterday. Finding the P5A-B BIOS was easy, but finding on site the required update tool to install it was impossible. I was lucky enough to guess one I already downloaded for a P5S-B many years ago would be compatible. Well I feel unable to comment on that, since I always refer to my vendor, when my hardware fails, which I never experienced with Asus. ;-(. However I must say, that for years now, I am used to choose either Asus (NEVER Laptops, just MoBos!) or Gigabyte as default brands, because I never had trouble with these (under DOS/Win/OS2/Linux...) in regard to Bios update availability, support (via vendor), performance and anything else I can think of. Maybe I just stick with them for reasons of traditition, but I will happily do so until I will have reason to act differently. regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Asus P5K3 Deluxe motherboard + OpenSUSE 10.3
On Sunday 02 September 2007 13:41, Matthew Stringer wrote: http://www.mozillaquest.com/Linux04/Asus_Sucks_Story-01.html I got a not found with that link. When did Asus start dealing direct with end users? I've always understood if you have a bad board you deal with your dealer. Who deals with their distributor. I know Asus provides bios updates for boards older then dirt. Nick -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Asus P5K3 Deluxe motherboard + OpenSUSE 10.3
On 2007/09/02 18:41 (GMT+0100) Matthew Stringer apparently typed: I've never heard of someone being asked what OS/Software they were running when returning faulty hardware, if I had a faulty mobo I'd return it to the vendor not the manufacturer so can't see ever having to speak to Asus or anyone else. A fault would cause problems regardless of OS. No question if you're obviously dealing with a DOA. But, after the vendor's no questions asked period of usually 30 days or less, isolation of the fault of a previously working product to a particular software or hardware component is a commonly involved prerequisite to proceeding with an RMA return or replacement. At such point, few vendors will offer anything more than contact information for its manufacturer's support. This is when such questions get asked. Typically, they need to be answered in order to get useful results. Good support asks questions that don't require doz in order to obtain required answers. -- It yet remains a problem to be solved in human affairs, whether any free government can be permanent, where the public worship of God, and the support of religion, constitute no part of the policy or duty of the state in any assignable shape. Chief Justice Joseph Story Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Asus P5K3 Deluxe motherboard + OpenSUSE 10.3
On 2007/09/02 14:03 (GMT-0400) Nick Zentena apparently typed: On Sunday 02 September 2007 13:41, Matthew Stringer wrote: http://www.mozillaquest.com/Linux04/Asus_Sucks_Story-01.html I got a not found with that link. http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.mozillaquest.com/Linux04/Asus_Sucks_Story-01.html -- It yet remains a problem to be solved in human affairs, whether any free government can be permanent, where the public worship of God, and the support of religion, constitute no part of the policy or duty of the state in any assignable shape. Chief Justice Joseph Story Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] silly girls' cli copy problem
primm wrote: Using the non enterprize version of SuSE to run a network I feel is very much in it's infancy. The only method of support is through this list. SuSE will not help you. It is a very dangerous game to play being a non supported sys admin. I think we all operate in isolation with none of us being able to communicate our real fears and ideas. I believe that it prevents open source software from progressing to a greater extent. I use both sles and opensuse in data centers, and while it is true that novell support is reserved for paid sles customers, there is a lot of help for opensuse out there on the net. I find that google is often the best and quickest answer for the various problems I might run into. This list is useful of course, but in business situations one often needs an answer within minutes, not hours or days. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] silly girls' cli copy problem
On Sep 2 2007 11:40, primm wrote: Using the non enterprize version of SuSE to run a network I feel is very much in it's infancy. The only method of support is through this list. SuSE will not help you. It is a very dangerous game to play being a non supported sys admin. The better sysadmins can solve the problems without enterprise support. Jan -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] More about installation of the Jikes compiler
Stan Goodman wrote: Installing the package seemed successful (there was a notice announcing this). I rebooted, to assure myself that the installation actually took. Rebooted? but why? To ensure that the installation took, it is necessary only to run the program. if it runs, the installation was successful. Writing jikes in the Search field of the lizard menu brought up a line reading Run 'usr/bin/jikes', and I clicked on it -- which produced nothing visible. (Running jikes with no arguments is supposed to bring up a help screen). Right - to get the help text, I'd open a terminal and type jikes Much worse, the three Java programs on which I rely no longer start; clicking on their desktop icons does nothing whatever. Apparently jikes, which is itself a Java program has done somehow screwed up the Java installation. I tried to start one of the java programs manually, by which is easy to do, and which I have done before. The result is as follows: Exception in thread main java.awt.AWTError: Cannot load AWT toolkit: Ouch - looks like jikes has done something. I've never used jikes, but that does not sound at all kosher. If your java is all installed from rpm packages, you can check them to see what, if anything, has been damaged. I'm starting from ignorance about jikes, and assuming a worst-case scanario here. So I'd first remove jikes, then generate a list of the main java packages to check. On my box, I get: lucy: /home/jjs (tty/dev/pts/3): bash: 1031 rpm -qa | grep '^java' java-1_5_0-sun-alsa-1.5.0_update12-3.1 java-1_4_2-gcj-compat-devel-1.4.2.0-66 java-1_5_0-sun-1.5.0_update12-3.1 java-1_4_2-cacao-devel-0.96-22 java-1_5_0-sun-jdbc-1.5.0_update12-3.1 java-1_5_0-sun-devel-1.5.0_update12-3.1 javamail-1.4-16 java-1_5_0-sun-plugin-1.5.0_update12-3.1 java-1_4_2-gcj-compat-1.4.2.0-66 java-1_4_2-cacao-0.96-22 I'd then check each of these with rpm -V to see which files might be missing or damaged. I'll put the above list into a file called java-pkgs and issue the following command: for i in `cat java-pkgs `do echo $i rpm -V $i echo 'next?' read junk done If any of these shows damage, I'd reinstall it... and no reboot. Was jikes installed with yast or zypper, or was it downloaded and installed with an rpm command? were there any warnings? Just for giggles, I downloaded jikes and took a look. Here is the list of files in the jikes which I just installed with zypper: lucy: /home/jjs (tty/dev/pts/3): bash: 1045 rpm -ql jikes /usr/bin/jikes /usr/include/jikesapi.h /usr/share/doc/packages/jikes /usr/share/doc/packages/jikes/AUTHORS /usr/share/doc/packages/jikes/COPYING /usr/share/doc/packages/jikes/ChangeLog /usr/share/doc/packages/jikes/NEWS /usr/share/doc/packages/jikes/README /usr/share/doc/packages/jikes/TODO /usr/share/doc/packages/jikes/license.htm /usr/share/man/man1/jikes.1.gz I see absolutely no possibility of conflict with any installed java files here. After installing jikes, I still have no problem running any of my java programs - editix, limerwire, azureus all work as before. I suspect there may be something else going on with your system. Happy hunting and good luck! Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] silly girls' cli copy problem
On Sunday 02 September 2007 20:58:59 Jan Engelhardt wrote: The better sysadmins can solve the problems without enterprise support. Depends on the problem. Relatively few sysadmins know enough about development to be able to fix bugs. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] my evolution can not save (re-use) password
Dear my friends... I use mandriva and suse mostly for working. I have a problem on my SuSE but not on mandrive about my ximian-evolution. I checked the remember this password for receiving and sending an email. But next time if I want to receive/send an e-mail than I have to re-type the password again although previously I have checked the remember password check-button. It's weird because on my mandriva this problem does not happen. So I believe, there's something I should do to my SuSE in order to making my ximian-evolution can remember my password for future use. It's a little bit bothered If I have to re-type my POP3/SMTP password each time I want to receive/send an e-mail with my evolution. Please tell me what should I do? Thank you very much in advance. -- Patrik Hasibuan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Junior Programmer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] More about installation of the Jikes compiler
On Sunday 02 September 2007 22:24, joe wrote: Stan Goodman wrote: Installing the package seemed successful (there was a notice announcing this). I rebooted, to assure myself that the installation actually took. Rebooted? but why? To ensure that the installation took, it is necessary only to run the program. if it runs, the installation was successful. It is the result of long habit from a pre-Linux existence. It certainly didn't create the subsequent problem. Writing jikes in the Search field of the lizard menu brought up a line reading Run 'usr/bin/jikes', and I clicked on it -- which produced nothing visible. (Running jikes with no arguments is supposed to bring up a help screen). Right - to get the help text, I'd open a terminal and type jikes Too late. The bloody thing is gone. Much worse, the three Java programs on which I rely no longer start; clicking on their desktop icons does nothing whatever. Apparently jikes, which is itself a Java program has done somehow screwed up the Java installation. I tried to start one of the java programs manually, by which is easy to do, and which I have done before. The result is as follows: Exception in thread main java.awt.AWTError: Cannot load AWT toolkit: Ouch - looks like jikes has done something. I've never used jikes, but that does not sound at all kosher. If your java is all installed from rpm packages, you can check them to see what, if anything, has been damaged. I'm starting from ignorance about jikes, and assuming a worst-case scanario here. So I'd first remove jikes, then generate a list of the main java packages to check. On my box, I get: lucy: /home/jjs (tty/dev/pts/3): bash: 1031 rpm -qa | grep '^java' java-1_5_0-sun-alsa-1.5.0_update12-3.1 java-1_4_2-gcj-compat-devel-1.4.2.0-66 java-1_5_0-sun-1.5.0_update12-3.1 java-1_4_2-cacao-devel-0.96-22 java-1_5_0-sun-jdbc-1.5.0_update12-3.1 java-1_5_0-sun-devel-1.5.0_update12-3.1 javamail-1.4-16 java-1_5_0-sun-plugin-1.5.0_update12-3.1 java-1_4_2-gcj-compat-1.4.2.0-66 java-1_4_2-cacao-0.96-22 Just for laughs (no giggling), here is a list of checked packages that the Software Management tool turns up when searched for java; classpath gcc41-gij gcc41-gij_32bit gcc-gij java-1_4_2-gcj-compat java-1_4_2-gcj-compat_32bit jre (with a padlock; this is jre v1.6.0_02) libgcj41 libgcj41-32bit I'd then check each of these with rpm -V to see which files might be missing or damaged. I'll put the above list into a file called java-pkgs and issue the following command: for i in `cat java-pkgs `do echo $i rpm -V $i echo 'next?' read junk done As you probably read in a previous note to Bogdan, I've localized the problem to Java v1.4.2, which I intend to uninstall, so that v1.6.0 will be the default jvm. Everything I have works fine with 1.6.0. If any of these shows damage, I'd reinstall it... and no reboot. Was jikes installed with yast or zypper, or was it downloaded and installed with an rpm command? were there any warnings? It was installed automatically from the website where it was found, using Zeninstaller. There were no warnings. The first thing the installation told me was Success!. Just for giggles, I downloaded jikes and took a look. Here is the list of files in the jikes which I just installed with zypper: lucy: /home/jjs (tty/dev/pts/3): bash: 1045 rpm -ql jikes /usr/bin/jikes /usr/include/jikesapi.h /usr/share/doc/packages/jikes /usr/share/doc/packages/jikes/AUTHORS /usr/share/doc/packages/jikes/COPYING /usr/share/doc/packages/jikes/ChangeLog /usr/share/doc/packages/jikes/NEWS /usr/share/doc/packages/jikes/README /usr/share/doc/packages/jikes/TODO /usr/share/doc/packages/jikes/license.htm /usr/share/man/man1/jikes.1.gz I see absolutely no possibility of conflict with any installed java files here. After installing jikes, I still have no problem running any of my java programs - editix, limerwire, azureus all work as before. I suspect there may be something else going on with your system. Happy hunting and good luck! OK, there was no possibility. Still, Java was working fine minutes before the installation, and was fouled up right afterward. Joe -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Asus P5K3 Deluxe motherboard + OpenSUSE 10.3
On Sun, 2007-09-02 at 14:05 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: On 2007/09/02 18:41 (GMT+0100) Matthew Stringer apparently typed: I've never heard of someone being asked what OS/Software they were running when returning faulty hardware, if I had a faulty mobo I'd return it to the vendor not the manufacturer so can't see ever having to speak to Asus or anyone else. A fault would cause problems regardless of OS. No question if you're obviously dealing with a DOA. But, after the vendor's no questions asked period of usually 30 days or less, isolation of the fault of a previously working product to a particular software or hardware component is a commonly involved prerequisite to proceeding with an RMA return or replacement. At such point, few vendors will offer anything more than contact information for its manufacturer's support. This is when such questions get asked. Typically, they need to be answered in order to get useful results. Good support asks questions that don't require doz in order to obtain required answers. But if I knew it wasn't faulty, I just couldn't get it working and had gotten to the point of giving up and wanting my money back then a slight over voltage is usually enough to ensure a premature death! Still the vendor usually supplies 12 months waranty on hardware if I had a component fail after that I'd probably just buy a new one given how cheap they are these days. Saying that after owing PC's since the days of 386's I don't think I've ever had one die on me. I'm still favouring the Asus as the Gigabyte website is horrible to navigate and I can't think of any other manufacturers (given how almost identical all these boards are I wonder who actually makes them before they get branded?). M. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.3 Beta2 severily broken
Hi, I can see that you have a Logitech mouse, so you might have a look at https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=262317#c19 and apply the patch if necessary. About the NVidia Driver please try to get the latest, because the old ones will not install properly, because some version number in the Xorg server was changed from 7.x to its internal version numbering. So older NVidia driver installer think that they have found an old XFree version and install in a wrong directory tree. You might also try to do a sax2 -i -m 0=nvidia after you reinstalled the Nvidia driver. 0 is a NUMBER and not the capital version of the letter 'o'. Hope this helps a little, kind regards, Tom -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] VMware 64-bit
Hi, I have a problem installing VMware Workstation 6.0. x86-64 on my 10.0 64-bit. Problem is, that VMware still doesn't want to run 64bit guest systems and also in YAST it still reports architecture as i386. Does anybody know how to install it correctly? Best regards Janko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] VMware 64-bit
Are you building the guest from scratch from w/in VMWare, or trying to use an already running drive for the VM guest? I had a similar problem trying to run a Win/XP/64 already-built-and-running disk in VMWare Server (which is compatible [and free] w/ VMWare WorKstation 5) running under a 32-bit OpenSuSE 10.2 host. Building a Win/XP/64 small-root disk in VMWare Server, then attaching the existing disk as a secondary drive worked (I can see all the files fine... now I need to figure out how to get Windows to see the programs and users on the old disk and use the old disk for the program and user space... what would be trivial in Unix can't be done in WinDoh's). Also, the community support on the VMWare list servers is really good. On 9/2/07, Janko Mivšek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have a problem installing VMware Workstation 6.0. x86-64 on my 10.0 64-bit. Problem is, that VMware still doesn't want to run 64bit guest systems and also in YAST it still reports architecture as i386. Does anybody know how to install it correctly? Best regards Janko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] VMware 64-bit
On Sunday 02 September 2007 22:16:05 Janko Mivšek wrote: Hi, I have a problem installing VMware Workstation 6.0. x86-64 on my 10.0 64-bit. Problem is, that VMware still doesn't want to run 64bit guest systems and also in YAST it still reports architecture as i386. Does anybody know how to install it correctly? What CPU is in your machine? vmware can only run 64 bit guests on recent chips, with the full virtualization feature of the CPU enabled. On AMD, I believe it is revision D or later, and on Xeon you need to enable full virtualization in your BIOS. When you try to run a 64 bit guest in vmware, there is a popup which explains this, together with a link to the vmware knowledge base which explains the reasons for it. If it was too quick for you to read, you can click on the button in the lower right corner, and it will come up in a window which doesn't close automatically If the rpm was really called x86_64, and it still said i386 in YaST, then the people who created the spec file for the rpm most likely forgot to change the text in it. The architecture description is just plain text, so it is entirely possible that whoever built it just forgot to change it -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] VMware 64-bit
I just checked my CPU with Processor Check for 64-Bit Compatibility and it seems that my CPU is too much semi 64-bit for VMware. More about that on http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/dynamickc.do?externalId=1901sliceId=1command=showforward=nonthreadedKCkcId=1901 Thanks Chris anyway for a help. Janko Chris Worley wrote: Are you building the guest from scratch from w/in VMWare, or trying to use an already running drive for the VM guest? I had a similar problem trying to run a Win/XP/64 already-built-and-running disk in VMWare Server (which is compatible [and free] w/ VMWare WorKstation 5) running under a 32-bit OpenSuSE 10.2 host. Building a Win/XP/64 small-root disk in VMWare Server, then attaching the existing disk as a secondary drive worked (I can see all the files fine... now I need to figure out how to get Windows to see the programs and users on the old disk and use the old disk for the program and user space... what would be trivial in Unix can't be done in WinDoh's). Also, the community support on the VMWare list servers is really good. On 9/2/07, Janko Mivšek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have a problem installing VMware Workstation 6.0. x86-64 on my 10.0 64-bit. Problem is, that VMware still doesn't want to run 64bit guest systems and also in YAST it still reports architecture as i386. Does anybody know how to install it correctly? Best regards Janko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Janko Mivšek Svetovalec za informatiko Eranova d.o.o. Ljubljana, Slovenija www.eranova.si tel: 01 514 22 55 faks: 01 514 22 56 gsm: 031 674 565 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Trying to internally redistribute a recompiled kernel.
Hello, I have to add a package compiled into the kernel and I'm hoping to distribute this modified SuSE kernel to a few machines around here in rpm format or something else that's easily distributed. I'm running Open SuSE 10.2. I know that the kernel-source package will allow me to recompile and modify the shipped kernel on this system however, how do I then bring this kernel in rpm format to other systems? I think there is a noSRC application that I need to get but I'm not entirely sure and I've no idea where I'd find it. Any suggestions would be very ppreciated. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Trying to internally redistribute a recompiled kernel.
On Sep 2 2007 21:49, Darragh wrote: I have to add a package compiled into the kernel and I'm hoping to distribute this modified SuSE kernel to a few machines around here in rpm format or something else that's easily distributed. I'm running Open SuSE 10.2. I know that the kernel-source package will allow me to recompile and modify the shipped kernel on this system however, how do I then bring this kernel in rpm format to other systems? I think there is a noSRC application that I need to get but I'm not entirely sure and I've no idea where I'd find it. lbuild-10.2 kernel-default.spec Jan -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] silly girls' cli copy problem
On Sunday 02 September 2007 16:37, Randall R Schulz wrote: On Sunday 02 September 2007 03:12, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote: ... As I wrote earlier, I'm somewhat reluctant giving advice out of fear of giving wrong advise. I think you should just go ahead. When you're unsure of something, say so. Or do what I sometimes do, use it as an opportunity to look something up. That way you remember it better and knowledge is spread. And keep in mind, this is an active list with lots of subscribers. If you say something even a little wrong, someone will probably correct you. And even if they don't, when someone tries it out and it doesn't work, they'll let you know. Live and learn! Hi That's good advice. I don't think there is any problem that some or other member of this list cannot help me with. This list is far better that paying fopr professional advice. I think as an admin you can stagnate and do things the same forever. That's exactly what I don't want to do. My original thread brought no fewer than 12 different methods to help me. Two worked out of the box. The others were equally interesting as taught me a lesson that there are indeed no correct or official ways of doing things in Linux. There are at least 12 equally viable solutions for each question I throw up. Love from Lynn x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: silly girls' cli copy problem
O To the other question I have worked as a, programmers, systems programmer, systems admin for a long time (mainly in an academic environment)... Phew. Frightening. Who'd risk being root on a lan these days. I'm having second thoughts. I used to have an easy job doing word processing! Lynn x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] silly girls' cli copy problem
On Sunday 02 September 2007 20:56, joe wrote: primm wrote: Using the non enterprize version of SuSE to run a network I feel is very much in it's infancy. The only method of support is through this list. SuSE will not help you. It is a very dangerous game to play being a non supported sys admin. I think we all operate in isolation with none of us being able to communicate our real fears and ideas. I believe that it prevents open source software from progressing to a greater extent. I use both sles and opensuse in data centers, and while it is true that novell support is reserved for paid sles customers, there is a lot of help for opensuse out there on the net. I find that google is often the best and quickest answer for the various problems I might run into. This list is useful of course, but in business situations one often needs an answer within minutes, not hours or days. Joe Hi Joe. That's so true. The ubuntu list has everything you need to know about X and it applies equally well to SuSE. I found that out when trying to install the oh so sexy compiz fusion stuff which knocks macbores and windoze users of their feet. Ask for cli help on Ubuntu and they'd be at a loss. it's a cse of using the 'net to ones advantage I suppose. Lynn x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] silly girls' cli copy problem
On Sunday 02 September 2007 20:58, Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Sep 2 2007 11:40, primm wrote: Using the non enterprize version of SuSE to run a network I feel is very much in it's infancy. The only method of support is through this list. SuSE will not help you. It is a very dangerous game to play being a non supported sys admin. The better sysadmins can solve the problems without enterprise support. I'm on the steep learning curve of being one of your better sysadmins then! Love from Lynn x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: Asus P5K3 Deluxe motherboard + OpenSUSE 10.3
On Sunday 02 September 2007 1:02:17 pm Eberhard Roloff wrote: Well I feel unable to comment on that, since I always refer to my vendor, when my hardware fails, which I never experienced with Asus. ;-(. However I must say, that for years now, I am used to choose either Asus (NEVER Laptops, just MoBos!) or Gigabyte as default brands, because I never had trouble with these (under DOS/Win/OS2/Linux...) in regard to Bios update availability, support (via vendor), performance and anything else I can think of. Maybe I just stick with them for reasons of traditition, but I will happily do so until I will have reason to act differently. Some time ago, my brother bought a new ASUS mobo. He booted it with a floppy drive attached and it worked fine til he removed the floppy drive,, then it went tits up. Got an RMA from ASUS and got a new one, worked ok with a floppy but failed when the drive was disconected. Once failed it remained failed. So he called ASUS, they acknowledged a problem with that board but refused to do anything but send him another identical board with the identical problem. When asked about getting a non defective board they told him to take it or leave it or he could purchase another board. He did, and gave the ASUS to someother poor fool. No ASUS boards in either of our computer rooms again. One solution to the what kind of os are you using is to always tell them XP or the latest windows. I've never had anyone on the phone that could tell the difference. Besides, most of the folks you talk to are simply reading a script anyway. Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] silly girls' cli copy problem
On Sunday 02 September 2007 21:29, Anders Johansson wrote: On Sunday 02 September 2007 20:58:59 Jan Engelhardt wrote: The better sysadmins can solve the problems without enterprise support. Depends on the problem. Relatively few sysadmins know enough about development to be able to fix bugs. In Linux you are very much on your own. Every Linux hobbyist I know thinks they can run a lan. Put them in charge for a day and I bet there would be little or anything left of /etc. Everyone seems to know better. Especially men. It's not about dealing with computers. It's about dealing with people. That's where Linux users fall down so badly. That's why they don't get the jobs they deserve. Too many of them still live with their Mother. Lynn x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] silly girls' cli copy problem
- just a short note... - it may be that you were the second best at the time of hiring. - but that situation will change :-) Hi. I think you may just be right. I didn't have to make the coffee today :-). But did get told off for wearing high heels-:( Lynn x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] silly girls' cli copy problem
I also used mc as my server does not have a gui. Well shopt -s extglob cp -a !(members) members should have worked, and so should export GLOBIGNORE=members cp -a * members I did test them before sending off the suggestions (although I did have a typo in there, so yes, a copy/paste wouldn't have worked) Hi Anders. Don't worry about it. Yours was one of the two solutions which copy and pasted just fine. The other was the rsync method. Love from Lynn x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] silly girls' cli copy problem
primm wrote: On Sunday 02 September 2007 21:29, Anders Johansson wrote: On Sunday 02 September 2007 20:58:59 Jan Engelhardt wrote: The better sysadmins can solve the problems without enterprise support. Depends on the problem. Relatively few sysadmins know enough about development to be able to fix bugs. In Linux you are very much on your own. On your own? What kind of statement is that? Support is available, as with any other OS, and then some. I can pick up the phone anytime, 24/7 and call HP or Novell to get linux support. Then there's also support available on the net for free. Every Linux hobbyist I know thinks they can run a lan. Put them in charge for a day and I bet there would be little or anything left of /etc. Everyone seems to know better. Especially men. It's not about dealing with computers. It's about dealing with people. That's where Linux users fall down so badly. That's why they don't get the jobs they deserve. Too many of them still live with their Mother. Too many outmoded stereotypes. I know a number of linux admins, and as with anything, there are some really sharp ones, and some that you wouldn't let near your computer. All the linux admins I know are married and own houses BTW. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] silly girls' cli copy problem
On 9/2/07, primm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - just a short note... - it may be that you were the second best at the time of hiring. - but that situation will change :-) Hi. I think you may just be right. I didn't have to make the coffee today :-). But did get told off for wearing high heels-:( I used to work with a woman programmer that came from Russia, (Ukraine before that). She always wore high heels. I assumed it was the Russian culture. A couple weeks ago I went to her birthday party. I was one of 5 people there that did not speak Russian. Part of the evening was a parody of her life. Much of it involved her love of heels. ie. Here she walking in the woods, wearing heels. etc. etc. Greg -- Greg Freemyer Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] silly girls' cli copy problem
primm wrote: In Linux you are very much on your own. Every Linux hobbyist I know thinks they can run a lan. Put them in charge for a day and I bet there would be little or anything left of /etc. Everyone seems to know better. Especially men. It's not about dealing with computers. It's about dealing with people. That's where Linux users fall down so badly. That's why they don't get the jobs they deserve. Too many of them still live with their Mother. Lynn x I don't care who ya are. That there is funny. -- (o:]*HUGGLES*[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: I LOVE YOU Pass them on! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [opensuse] Trying to internally redistribute a recompiled kernel.
Jan, Possibly a stupid question, but where are these packages. Yast hasn't found them and a quick search hasn't turned up anything either. I'll keep looking but if you could point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it. -Original Message- From: Jan Engelhardt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 September 2007 21:51 To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] Trying to internally redistribute a recompiled kernel. On Sep 2 2007 21:49, Darragh wrote: I have to add a package compiled into the kernel and I'm hoping to distribute this modified SuSE kernel to a few machines around here in rpm format or something else that's easily distributed. I'm running Open SuSE 10.2. I know that the kernel-source package will allow me to recompile and modify the shipped kernel on this system however, how do I then bring this kernel in rpm format to other systems? I think there is a noSRC application that I need to get but I'm not entirely sure and I've no idea where I'd find it. lbuild-10.2 kernel-default.spec Jan -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] SuSE 10.1: SMP kernel 2.6.17-rc2 (or later)
I have SuSE 10.1 - KDE 3.5.1. Can somebody give me directions on how to install the latest stable kernel (later than 2.6.17-rc2)? I don't want to hassle with install going to SuSE 10.2. I need the kernel for some built-in drivers. I want to be sure the SMP functionality is working. I am comfortable making things and I used to build the kernels back in SuSE 8.1 days, but haven't done it in a while. Also, if there are needed packages, please let me know where I can get the SuSE 10.1 RPMs. Thanks! Sincerely, wmeler -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] 10.1 Multiple wireless routers 1 wireless card?
Hey all... This might be one of those that just can't be done... Ok... I have a DLink 451 (HSDPA hotspot wireless router) that I have setup as 192.168.1.1 w/ DHCP off (all the computers have set IPs). I also have a ancient linksys befw11s4 wireless. In a perfect world I want to have the linksys act as an AP for the printer (yes it is networkable) and the dlink connect to the world. All of the computers would connect via the dlink, but be able to print by sending via cups to 192.168.1.1/2 Now I found a couple of ideas on how to do it: I set the linksys to 192.168.1.2, both the routers are on channel 1. One place I've run into problems is that the howtos I've found all say that the essid's have to be different. So say, the dlink's essid is route1, and linksys is route2. The problem with this is the network card setup requires an essid in order to use WEP. If I use route1 then it can't see route2. The easiest way to do it is to buy a second wireless card and set the linksys as 192.168.0.1, but I would rather get it to work without the this way. Any ideas be appreciated... -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes “To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.” [Theodore Roosevelt] 1918 Adolph Sharon Weidanz SuSE 10.1 '78 43' Endeavour Ketch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Team 45 S/V Time To Paws -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] silly girls' cli copy problem
On Sunday 02 September 2007 23:12:24 primm wrote: In Linux you are very much on your own. That is very much not true. It is true that there are a lot of people out there who pretend to know things (or think they do) when they really don't, but that is not exclusive to linux. The ability to judge the appropriateness of a suggested solution is more important than knowing the answer yourself. I have seen many suggestions on many mailing lists which, if implemented, would have totally destroyed the installation. But that has nothing whatever to do with linux, and everything to do with human nature. Many of these emails were on lists unrelated to linux Besides, as was pointed out, you have many professional options for support. And there are many highly knowledgable persons on this mailing list and others. But if you want to rely on mailing lists, you have to learn to distinguish good answers from bad. But that's not the same as being on your own, it's just life -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 32b compiled program not running in 64x environment - open SuSE 10.2
On Saturday 01 September 2007 17:05, Vahe Avedissian wrote: Finally, if I run 'linux32 myexample' under a 64b booted linux it also works fine! So it seems, for some applications, just running a 32b executible under 64b environment is not enough, or am I wrong it trying to run *any* 32b executible *without* prefixing it with linux32 ? There may be various reasons why a 32-bit executable does not run on a 64-bit system. For instance it's dynamically linked and the 32-bit libraries are not present, or the executable detects the 64-bit environment and stops because the programmer coded it to stop, ... The behavior is application-specific so I suggest that you look at the Matlab documentation. You can start here: http://www.mathworks.com/support/solutions/data/1-33IG3V.html?solution=1-33IG3V -- A.M. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.3 Beta2 severily broken
On Sun, 2007-09-02 at 22:11 +0200, Thomas Meindl wrote: Hi, I can see that you have a Logitech mouse, so you might have a look at https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=262317#c19 and apply the patch if necessary. About the NVidia Driver please try to get the latest, because the old ones will not install properly, because some version number in the Xorg server was changed from 7.x to its internal version numbering. So older NVidia driver installer think that they have found an old XFree version and install in a wrong directory tree. You might also try to do a sax2 -i -m 0=nvidia after you reinstalled the Nvidia driver. 0 is a NUMBER and not the capital version of the letter 'o'. Hope this helps a little, kind regards, Tom Mouse is a Dell, about 3 years old, so that does not really make sense. Will change it to a PS2 mouse though. Art -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.3 Beta2 severily broken
On Sun, 2007-09-02 at 22:11 +0200, Thomas Meindl wrote: Hi, I can see that you have a Logitech mouse, so you might have a look at https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=262317#c19 and apply the patch if necessary. About the NVidia Driver please try to get the latest, because the old ones will not install properly, because some version number in the Xorg server was changed from 7.x to its internal version numbering. So older NVidia driver installer think that they have found an old XFree version and install in a wrong directory tree. You might also try to do a sax2 -i -m 0=nvidia after you reinstalled the Nvidia driver. 0 is a NUMBER and not the capital version of the letter 'o'. Hope this helps a little, kind regards, Tom In Beta1 I tried the 100.14.11, but it would cause KDE to lockup on exit when using compiz-fusion. Went back to 9639 and compiz-fusion was working fine then. This was with xorg 7.2 and compiz-fusion 5.2.xx. It also no longer works. Will try it again. Art -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Thoughts On OS Betas
How well one is served by a beta distribution (of nearly everything, but especially an OS distribution) depends on two major factors: (1) how much of the system you actually use, and (2) how important the particular machine is to you. With regard to (1), the less of a system you actually use, the more likely a beta distribution will work just fine. One of my laptops gets used very lightly, for occasional email and web browsing. 10.3 Beta 1 was great on it. More drivers that I needed were built into the kernel, and there was way less fussing around to get things working than with the 10.2 release. On another machine, 10.3 Beta 1 gave me sound from the onboard sound card, which I never had been able to get working with 10.2. For the first time, I was able to rip some of my CDs to .ogg files and enjoy them through the fairly high-quality speakers connected to that machine. On another laptop, 10.3 Beta 2 has enabled wireless connectivity for the first time. That's a serious advantage for a computer that I can't really use very well connected to an Ethernet cable. With regard to (2), life in the fast lane definitely comes with risks. Although being an early adopter of the newest distribution can be exciting and rewarding, it doesn't make sense to install a beta on a machine that's needed for serious work. Unless, that is, you're willing to risk trashing a file system, or have a great backup system in place. All it takes is common sense, and reasonable precautions. I just finished reinstalling 10.2 on my Linux desktop machine, after I managed to trash one of the disks with 10.3 Beta 1. For me, that computer is a toy, one I built for the express purpose of experimenting with Linux. With my /user area backed up on a separate drive, I was able to restore my email and documents fairly easily. Would I install a beta on a machine I use for serious work, and that I can't afford to have out of operation? Heh. I'm not that dumb. But I sure am enjoying the new openSuSE bits. I can't wait for the stable release! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Really need help from networking guru
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-08-31 at 17:45 +0800, Art Fore wrote: I really need some help on a networking problem that I have tried to solve for several months now. At least point me to where I can find the ... I put these commands in /etc/init.d/boot.local. which will not work, as this script runs before network is up. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG21y8tTMYHG2NR9URAv/LAJ4tEhOySxS6cwb48adCNx69cYp66gCgmKvY Hv5+bXfCvYEZ+qpV73oHNpY= =3e+N -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: Conflicts on KDE upgrade
2007/8/29, Ciro Iriarte [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2007/8/29, Ciro Iriarte [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, trying to update a [EMAIL PROTECTED] system with the latest KDE3 packages from build service i get a lot of conflicts between kdelibs3 and kdelibs3-32bit. Shouldn't this libraries go to a different directory? Example: error: file /opt/kde3/lib/libkspell.so.4.2.0 from install of kdelibs3-3.5.7-69.1 conflicts with file from package kdelibs3-32bit-3.5.1-49.18.3 error: file /opt/kde3/lib/libkspell2.so.1.0.0 from install of kdelibs3-3.5.7-69.1 conflicts with file from package kdelibs3-32bit-3.5.1-49.18.3 error: file /opt/kde3/lib/libktexteditor.so.0.0.0 from install of kdelibs3-3.5.7-69.1 conflicts with file from package kdelibs3-32bit-3.5.1-49.18.3 error: file /opt/kde3/lib/libkunittest.so.1.0.0 from install of kdelibs3-3.5.7-69.1 conflicts with file from package kdelibs3-32bit-3.5.1-49.18.3 error: file /opt/kde3/lib/libkutils.so.1.2.0 from install of kdelibs3-3.5.7-69.1 conflicts with file from package kdelibs3-32bit-3.5.1-49.18.3 error: file /opt/kde3/lib/libkwalletbackend.so.1.0.0 from install of kdelibs3-3.5.7-69.1 conflicts with file from package kdelibs3-32bit-3.5.1-49.18.3 error: file /opt/kde3/lib/libkwalletclient.so.1.0.1 from install of kdelibs3-3.5.7-69.1 conflicts with file from package kdelibs3-32bit-3.5.1-49.18.3 error: file /opt/kde3/lib/libvcard.so.0.0.0 from install of kdelibs3-3.5.7-69.1 conflicts with file from package kdelibs3-32bit-3.5.1-49.18.3 Regards, Ciro Is smart choosing the wrong architecture?, i checked and the installed packages are for x86_64 and the repository (http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/SUSE_Linux_10.1/) includes packages for x86_64. Regards, Ciro Ok, seems that the kdebase3-32bit package is missing from http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/SUSE_Linux_10.1/x86_64/, can this be fixed?, it's present on my 10.1 and 10.2 installations by default. Regards, Ciro -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] VirtualBox
dear all i m having problem with my VirtualBox on my opensuse 102. The error is : VirtualBox kernel driver not installed. The vboxdrv kernel module was either not loaded or /dev/vboxdrv was not created for some reason. Re-setup the kernel module by executing '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' as root. VBox status code: -1908 (VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED). Result Code: 0x80004005 Component: Console Interface: IConsole {1dea5c4b-0753-4193-b909-22330f64ec45} I try the command as suggested, but vboxdrv doesnt seem to be exist : /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup -bash: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv: No such file or directory I installed it using opensuse10.2 repo. any idea what should i do? Thx for any help. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]