[opensuse-factory] software.o.o not responding

2007-09-17 Thread Andreas Vetter
Hi,

software.opensuse.org does not respond (at least since Sunday evening 
german time). Did I miss something or is it broken?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] software.o.o not responding

2007-09-17 Thread Clayton
 software.opensuse.org does not respond (at least since Sunday evening
 german time). Did I miss something or is it broken?

It's been off all weekend.  You missed something :-)  There are a
couple other threads on the go on the main user list about the same
topic.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Firewall not consistent..

2007-09-17 Thread M9.
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jdd schreef:
 M9. wrote:
 

 default openSUSE install are usually quite defensives and allow little
 open ports and little running servers (I'm not even sure that sshd is
 running by default)

No it is not..

 


 
 so what is the server you fear to be broken?

I wish i knew..

 
 Offcourse there has to be a change to change something.
 In this case i did not change a thing.
 Why should i?
 It worked, and i never change something that does its job well..


 
 however no firewall and certainly not on Linux can change by itself :-),

That is what i thought..

 so something must have been done, evidently accidentally :-).

Indeed, but not by me, and there is no-one else that uses this pc...

 
 what you could do is:
 
 * backup the /etc/sysconfig folder (it's small , do a complete backup of
 it)
 * do SuSEfirewall2 stop to stop the firewall
 * remove the /etc/sysconfig/SuSEfirewall2
 * in yast, force the reinstall of the firewall, like this you should
 recover the default config file
 
 hope this works
 jdd
 

Yep, sounds sane, i can try that ;-)
I will let you know..

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Firewall not consistent..

2007-09-17 Thread M9.
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Rajko M. schreef:
 On Saturday 15 September 2007 12:38:53 pm jdd wrote:
 M9. wrote:

 Don't forget that there is few computers in M9 network wireless. and problem
 can come from that side too. They are part of internal network, they probably
 have enabled ad hoc wireless and if some neighbor has no wireless access
 point it can without knowing what he is doing connect to any windows
 computers in range. If he has viruses they will find the way in. Taking how
 easy most of windows users dismiss firewall popups it opens unlimited
 possibilities.


In this case i let my router take security, by selecting which wireless
pc's or laptops can enter the network.
Until now this allways worked.
If i add a new wireless one, i have to give it permission in my router.
It will see the network, but will not be able to acces it.
An advantage my router ( i do not know if any router has that ), has, to
protect the network.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Firewall not consistent..

2007-09-17 Thread M9.
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Carlos E. R. schreef:

 The Saturday 2007-09-15 at 19:38 +0200, jdd wrote:

 default openSUSE install are usually quite defensives and allow little open
 ports and little running servers (I'm not even sure that sshd is running by
 default)

 The sshd daemon is intalled and runs, but the port is left closed in the
 firewall, if I remember correctly. Every port is left closed.

 what you could do is:

 * backup the /etc/sysconfig folder (it's small , do a complete backup of it)
 * do SuSEfirewall2 stop to stop the firewall
 * remove the /etc/sysconfig/SuSEfirewall2
 * in yast, force the reinstall of the firewall, like this you should recover
 the default config file

 I think he can simply copy over the default from the
 '/var/adm/fillup-templates/sysconfig.SuSEfirewall2' file.


Even more simple ;-)


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Re: [opensuse-factory] software.o.o not responding

2007-09-17 Thread Andreas Vetter
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007, Clayton wrote:

  software.opensuse.org does not respond (at least since Sunday evening
  german time). Did I miss something or is it broken?
 
 It's been off all weekend.  You missed something :-)  There are a
 couple other threads on the go on the main user list about the same
 topic.

That explains ... I'm not subscribed to the other list

Thanks

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Firewall not consistent..

2007-09-17 Thread jdd

M9. wrote:


so something must have been done, evidently accidentally :-).


Indeed, but not by me, and there is no-one else that uses this pc...


what one can do accidentally is unlimited :-(. This can (just a guess) 
be the result of a powerdown at the worst moment


I have an hosted server (physically hosted by an university) that 
couldn't boot after an unwanted power down.  typing lilo at the 
rescue prompt was enough to restore the boot sector.


after some enquiry, it seems that all the room was cautiously shut 
down for electrical maintenance, but the maintenance crew managed to 
power on all the system in the mean time. probably afraid of doing so, 
tey shut down almost immediately. On my server this was during MBR 
reading. I beg some sort of surge took place on the disks heads, or 
enywhere else, end the MBR was written...


problem: this happenned in the middle of hollidays and the room was 
not accessible by me, so one week off...


there is nothing to be done against such things :-(((

jdd

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Re: [opensuse-factory] classpath-webplugin

2007-09-17 Thread Martin Schlander
Den Saturday 15 September 2007 12:32:48 skrev Benji Weber:
 Francis pointed out to me that classpath-webplugin is installed by
 default on 10.3. This is

 a) rather pointless as I don't think it actually supports any applets
 ( I tried a dozen or so sites with java applets )
 b) somewhat dangerous as I don't think I'd trust the security in the
 classpath webplugin.
 c)  prevents the real sun java plugin from working when installed,
 until the user removes the classpath webplugin as this gets priority
 in both firefox and konqueror.

 Can I suggest

 - Making the sun plugin conflict with the classpath webplugin.
 - Preferably don't install the classpath version at all, if you're
 worried about completely free java go for java 7 it would be more
 reliable than classpath.

I had this problem too. This was on x86_64 however, but I installed 32-bit 
firefox and sun java-plugin and had problems getting it to work until I 
figured out that I must manually remove classpath-webplugin. I thought 
classpath-webplugin was only installed by default on 64-bit installations, 
but apparently it's also done on 32-bit - it doesn't do much good anywhere - 
but on 32-bit it's extra problematic.

I support Benji's proposed resolutions.
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[opensuse-factory] novell ati driver

2007-09-17 Thread Florin Samareanu
Hi,

Do you think that the new opensource ati driver developed by novell will
make it in 10.3? i`m asking because with my card (ati x1600 mobility)
vesa driver does not support more than 800x600, while my native lcd
resolution is 1680x1050. Also, in order to make more pleasant the
installation steps on 10.3 , you could try including avivo driver
(http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=avivo/xf86-video-avivo.git) .

A small offtopic question: is there a git/cvs/something repository of
this driver or is it developed internally?




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Re: [opensuse-factory] Firewall not consistent..

2007-09-17 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Monday 2007-09-17 at 11:01 +0200, M9. wrote:

[ This is a conversation more appropiate for the normal or the security 
lists, I think ]


 In this case i let my router take security, by selecting which wireless
 pc's or laptops can enter the network.
 Until now this allways worked.
 If i add a new wireless one, i have to give it permission in my router.
 It will see the network, but will not be able to acces it.

By which method do you allow a new PC? For instance, if you do it based on 
the hardware address of the new wireless device, that's very easy to 
break.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Firewall not consistent..

2007-09-17 Thread M9.
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jdd schreef:
 M9. wrote:

 so something must have been done, evidently accidentally :-).

 Indeed, but not by me, and there is no-one else that uses this pc...

 what one can do accidentally is unlimited :-(. This can (just a guess)
 be the result of a powerdown at the worst moment

This might be possible.
I could have turned the power button off, while the pc was shutting down.
You get a black screen before the log starts..
I remember that when i turned it on again the next day, it started
immediately without me pushing the start button... :-(



 I have an hosted server (physically hosted by an university) that
 couldn't boot after an unwanted power down.  typing lilo at the rescue
 prompt was enough to restore the boot sector.

 after some enquiry, it seems that all the room was cautiously shut down
 for electrical maintenance, but the maintenance crew managed to power on
 all the system in the mean time. probably afraid of doing so, tey shut
 down almost immediately. On my server this was during MBR reading. I beg
 some sort of surge took place on the disks heads, or enywhere else, end
 the MBR was written...

 problem: this happenned in the middle of hollidays and the room was not
 accessible by me, so one week off...

 there is nothing to be done against such things :-(((

 jdd

Yep, Shit happens:-((


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Firewall not consistent..

2007-09-17 Thread M9.
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Carlos E. R. schreef:

 The Monday 2007-09-17 at 11:01 +0200, M9. wrote:

 [ This is a conversation more appropiate for the normal or the security
 lists, I think ]


 In this case i let my router take security, by selecting which wireless
 pc's or laptops can enter the network.
 Until now this allways worked.
 If i add a new wireless one, i have to give it permission in my router.
 It will see the network, but will not be able to acces it.

 By which method do you allow a new PC? For instance, if you do it based on
 the hardware address of the new wireless device, that's very easy to
 break.


It is very simple in fact,a pc or laptop not listed gets no ip...


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Firewall not consistent..

2007-09-17 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Monday 2007-09-17 at 16:32 +0200, M9. wrote:

  By which method do you allow a new PC? For instance, if you do it based on
  the hardware address of the new wireless device, that's very easy to
  break.
 
 
 It is very simple in fact,a pc or laptop not listed gets no ip...

Don't you bet on it for a second.

A cracker can make his PC look like one of yours and connect, instantly.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Firewall not consistent..

2007-09-17 Thread jdd

Carlos E. R. wrote:


A cracker can make his PC look like one of yours and connect, instantly.


that is a cracker can guess your wep key (don't ask me how :-(), at 
the moment lurking the net gives him the mac adresse of the various hosts.


at the moment one of these hosts stops, he can use the mac to get an 
ip, he can also share the IP (but it's probably marginally more difficult)


the problem is: why should a cracker do this on your network? If this 
was one of a big company or if your work is highly important, may be.


may be also an evil neigbor

I beg some sort of malfunction is more likely to happen...

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Firewall not consistent..

2007-09-17 Thread M9.
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Carlos E. R. schreef:
 
 The Monday 2007-09-17 at 16:32 +0200, M9. wrote:
 
 By which method do you allow a new PC? For instance, if you do it based on
 the hardware address of the new wireless device, that's very easy to
 break.

 It is very simple in fact,a pc or laptop not listed gets no ip...
 
 Don't you bet on it for a second.
 
 A cracker can make his PC look like one of yours and connect, instantly.

Well, as a matter of fact, in my case, this is not as simple as you
suggest..
I live in the middle of nowhere..
Neighbours i have two, a quarter of an hour walk from me..
If you see the place, it look so ancient, that most people who visit me
are very surprised that the inside is very up to date..
They did not expect to find fast ethernet, and many pc's and laptops
that are very recent..
In my place there is no electricity, no gas, no water, no sewer..
Al this is selfmade, and selfcontroled.
If somebody would come so close, that the wireless would pick him, i
would have picked him before that, and if he/she would not come to visit
me, he/she would have no business here.. ;-)

Thnx for your concern ;-)





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Re: [opensuse-factory] Firewall not consistent..

2007-09-17 Thread M9.
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jdd schreef:
 Carlos E. R. wrote:
 
 A cracker can make his PC look like one of yours and connect, instantly.
 
 that is a cracker can guess your wep key (don't ask me how :-(), at the
 moment lurking the net gives him the mac adresse of the various hosts.
 
 at the moment one of these hosts stops, he can use the mac to get an ip,
 he can also share the IP (but it's probably marginally more difficult)
 
 the problem is: why should a cracker do this on your network? If this
 was one of a big company or if your work is highly important, may be.
 
 may be also an evil neigbor
 
 I beg some sort of malfunction is more likely to happen...
 
 jdd


I guess also, i have no valuable secrets stored on the pc's, nor am i rich.
My house is not protected, there is no need, most people are to afraid
to come by at night.
If one would reach the house, he would stumble and fall, because there
is no light, and it is full of rocks and trees.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Firewall not consistent..

2007-09-17 Thread M9.
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jdd schreef:
 M9. wrote:

 If one would reach the house, he would stumble and fall, because there
 is no light, and it is full of rocks and trees.

 seems lovely :-))

It is indeed, it is an old farmhouse, about 350 years old..


 and you get adsl there? your are lucky :-)

Yep the telephone transformer is only 6km from the house, and the last
piece there are only 3 people on the line ;-)
Yeah, it is pretty cool living here...
Nobody can shut me off whatever function if i did not pay the bill in
time ;-) (gas, water, electra)

 jdd



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[opensuse-factory] 10.3 Beta 3+ KDE-Live on Samsung P35

2007-09-17 Thread Christian Trippe
Hello!

I have tested the KDE-Live-CD on a Samsung P35 and found some issues (which I 
did not find reported jet). Most of them are really hardware specific, so I 
do not know, if I should fill bug-reports.

The boot-loader wants to boot with a resolution of 1024x768. So I changed to 
the native resolution of 1400x1050.
After boot entering sax2, it tells me that my monitor has 17.1 inches and a 
5/4 ratio, where it has 15 inches and a 4/3 ratio.

I have a Radeon mobility 9700 (RV350 NP) . I can activate 3D acceleration in 
sax2 with the radeon-driver. But in sysinfo in always says no 3D 
acceleration, whereas glxgears always works!

This Notebook has no entry in the 2ram whitelist. I did not manage to suspend 
with the options from http://de.opensuse.org/S2ram (I did not try all). But 
under 10.2 it works very well with the radeon-driver, radeonfb and vga=normal 
video=vesa:off and only -f.

Best regards,
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Firewall not consistent..

2007-09-17 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Monday 2007-09-17 at 17:03 +0200, jdd wrote:

 
 Carlos E. R. wrote:
 
  A cracker can make his PC look like one of yours and connect, instantly.
 
 that is a cracker can guess your wep key (don't ask me how :-(), at the moment
 lurking the net gives him the mac adresse of the various hosts.

Yes, but he didn't say if he is using wep. My point is, that basing 
security only in giving IPs to known machines, using the hardware address, 
is not secure. Added to other methods, yes.

And wep... I was told of an ISP technician that installed all routers in 
his area withe keys of the 012345678901234567890xx type, the last to 
digits being related to the customer. The customers were happy because 
they had a long key that was easy to remember. The crackers were even 
happier.


 the problem is: why should a cracker do this on your network? If this was one
 of a big company or if your work is highly important, may be.
 
 may be also an evil neigbor

Or one without ISP, and just wanting to send his emails free. I have a 
friend in that case.

Somebody told me that once he tested his neighbors wifi network, and got 
in easily. He then captured the traffic, and managed to learn his bank 
login and password - shame on the bank for sending that in clear -. He 
even tested it by entering the bank account, and exited. Obviously, that 
neighbor was using windows. He said that, had he being malign, he would 
have connected to the bank from a second neighbor network, and sent the 
money to a third one: there would be no way to track him, and the police 
would blame the second neighbor.


Anyway, M9 doesn't have neighbors, so he probably doesn't those problems :-)

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[opensuse-factory] asterisk dropped?

2007-09-17 Thread Andreas Vetter
Hi,

I just wanted to install asterisk and could not find it in 10.3b3 or 
factory. It's in build service.

Why (and when) was it dropped? I miss it!

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Re: [opensuse-factory] asterisk dropped?

2007-09-17 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 11:19:45PM +0200, Andreas Vetter wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I just wanted to install asterisk and could not find it in 10.3b3 or 
 factory. It's in build service.
 
 Why (and when) was it dropped? I miss it!

It has too often security problems and is moving to fast even
for the 2 year support cycle of openSUSE.

It can be found in the buildservice.

Ciao, Marcus
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Re: [opensuse-factory] classpath-webplugin

2007-09-17 Thread Andreas Vetter
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007, Martin Schlander wrote:

 Den Saturday 15 September 2007 12:32:48 skrev Benji Weber:
  Francis pointed out to me that classpath-webplugin is installed by
  default on 10.3. This is
 
  a) rather pointless as I don't think it actually supports any applets
  ( I tried a dozen or so sites with java applets )
  b) somewhat dangerous as I don't think I'd trust the security in the
  classpath webplugin.
  c)  prevents the real sun java plugin from working when installed,
  until the user removes the classpath webplugin as this gets priority
  in both firefox and konqueror.
 
  Can I suggest
 
  - Making the sun plugin conflict with the classpath webplugin.
  - Preferably don't install the classpath version at all, if you're
  worried about completely free java go for java 7 it would be more
  reliable than classpath.
 
 I had this problem too. This was on x86_64 however, but I installed 32-bit 
 firefox and sun java-plugin and had problems getting it to work until I 
 figured out that I must manually remove classpath-webplugin. I thought 
 classpath-webplugin was only installed by default on 64-bit installations, 
 but apparently it's also done on 32-bit - it doesn't do much good anywhere - 
 but on 32-bit it's extra problematic.
 
 I support Benji's proposed resolutions.

IMO it is a mistake to release a 64 bit firefox without a really (!) 
working java. Releasing a 32 bit firefox was much better in the older 
distros.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Firewall not consistent..

2007-09-17 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Monday 2007-09-17 at 17:12 +0200, M9. wrote:

  A cracker can make his PC look like one of yours and connect, instantly.
 
 Well, as a matter of fact, in my case, this is not as simple as you
 suggest..
 I live in the middle of nowhere..
...

Sounds a beautiful place :-)


 Thnx for your concern ;-)

Welcome :-)

You know that there are handheld gadgets that you carry in your pocket 
when you have a walk and beep or buzz when they detect a wifi. I have been 
told of people doing it in their cars, putting a special aerial with a 
magnet on the car roof. They can use a portable computer running a certain 
windows program that detects the networks it finds, and writes all that in 
a report. Plus, if connected to a GPS and a map software, it plots the 
findings in the map, with colors showing how kind are the neighbors.

The person that told me this said that they were thinking on doing this 
for their final project on university, and had a round of the industrial 
park here with that setup. The findings were very /interesting/, but 
refrained from making them public.

But I had seen a similar report  published in an article by the IEEE, it 
wasn't news to me.


Not your case, but people should be way more cautious with their wifis. On 
another message I wrote a sample of what damage can get done to such 
trusting users.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] asterisk dropped?

2007-09-17 Thread Hans Witvliet
On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 23:27 +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 11:19:45PM +0200, Andreas Vetter wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I just wanted to install asterisk and could not find it in 10.3b3 or 
  factory. It's in build service.
  
  Why (and when) was it dropped? I miss it!
 
 It has too often security problems and is moving to fast even
 for the 2 year support cycle of openSUSE.

Well, the 1.2 branch won't release too often any more.
It's in maintenance mode.
Curremt development-branch is 1.4 now...

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[opensuse-factory] xen on 10.3-B3

2007-09-17 Thread Hans Witvliet
Anybody on the list trying xen on 10.3-B3?

Seems to be stuck.
On a 10.2 DOM-0, i can run 10.1 DOM-u without any adaption.
Same is not true for 10.1 DOM-U's on a 10.3-B3 DOM-0

Other shot, creating a new DOM-U from yast, seems to be hanging half-way
(reding the repo afair from the top of my head)


HtH, Hans

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Re: [opensuse-factory] novell ati driver

2007-09-17 Thread Greg KH
On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 01:29:44PM +0300, Florin Samareanu wrote:
 A small offtopic question: is there a git/cvs/something repository of
 this driver or is it developed internally?

There will be a git tree on the x.org servers alongside all of the other
X drivers.  I think it should be moving there some time this week.

thanks,

greg k-h
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Re: [opensuse] Swith between souncards ?

2007-09-17 Thread michael norman
On Sunday 16 September 2007 14:56:30 Tom Patton wrote:
 On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 13:29 +0100, michael norman wrote:
  Hi
 
  I have a box, used mainly for multimedia, which has two sound cards : 
  the on board chip and an external Soundbaster USB.  I can configure both
  have have not found an easy way of either swithing between the two or
  assigning individual apps to automatically use a particular card..  The
  box is openSUSE 10.2 with the latest KDE from SUSE.  As I pretty much
  always use KDE a KDE configuration would be the easiest but if I have to
  I'll have a look in ALSA configuration.
 
  Any clues as to where to start gratefully received.
 
  Mike

 Have you considered an external patch bay?  I use the onboard chip plus
 two PCI sound cards in mine.  Apps like Cinelerra or Audacity have
 choices for input and output dsp devices (hw0,0 hw1,0 etc). I use FVWM
 as a desktop, and with QAmix, there is a tab for each sound card.

 In the patch bay, I have the first device normalled into the second's
 line-in, and it drives a monitor speaker system.  The Aux and CD input
 jacks are also routed by the patch bay, so I have tons of old-school
 flexibility.

 Check with your local TV stations...they could have stacks of patch bays
 they have been replacing recently as they upgrade to digital.

 Tom in NM

Thanks I'll investigate along those lines.
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Re: [opensuse] Something wrong with opensuse.org's web sites?

2007-09-17 Thread G T Smith
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Carlos E. R. wrote:
 
 The Sunday 2007-09-16 at 12:22 -0400, Bruce A. Mallett wrote:
 
 Do I?  Maybe.  I think that choosing a mirror is in fact choosing a
 single point of failure.  Choosing any single system is a single point
 of failure.  
 
 The point of using mirrors is that you use diferent systems. My update 
 have not broken or failed when you had those problems.
 

Except, when something takes out both original and mirrors e.g. the
recent packman blip...(which had little to do with SuSE). What I did
find a little irritating in the latter case I got no option to disable
but only the option to delete the offending location.

This is the first major problem I have noticed with the primary SuSE
repositories for quite some time. IMHO Compared to some other
maintenance and download services (e.g. CPAN and Eclipse) it is on a par...

Unfortunately, this is one those things one tends to notice when it is
not working, and forget about when it does. It also seems to occur more
frequently at weekends or public holidays when there is no-one on site
and in the case of hardware failure, no suppliers around to replace the
broken kit...



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Re: [opensuse] Something wrong with opensuse.org's web sites?

2007-09-17 Thread G T Smith
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Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
 Sun, 16 Sep 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 I got this yesterday or the day before as well and it is continuing now,
 in my case through the YAST software update/installer app.

 This is a general subject that has been bothering me, specifically I
 don't understand why pkg management under SUSE is so painful.  There are
 some basic things that I find curious:
 [..]
 
 If there's ever a reason for me to move on to e.g. Mac, it will be

You mean the same Mac which occasionally ship patches which break or
remove features from users systems :-)

No, update system is likely to be perfect, and most experienced sys
admin on all platforms test these things out to find out if anything
breaks before deploying. For home users or smaller outfits this is
problematic as the resources do not usually exist to this kind of checking,




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Re: [opensuse] openoffice java

2007-09-17 Thread G T Smith
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Carlos E. R. wrote:
 
 The Sunday 2007-09-16 at 19:16 +0200, primm wrote:
 
 The frontend to MySQL is just wonderful. Have to have it. The report 
 creation 
 is almost there too. Dragging to create relationships is better than Access 
 Can't swap now. . .
 
 Rekall or OOo base?
 
 Because in OOo I can't use tables with relations in read/write mode, only 
 read.

Nope, I can do data entry without too much of a problem from the
database view. Clunks a bit however
 
 I can create a View like this from two tables:
 
   BooksAuthors
  ---  -
   Book_ID+--- Author_ID
   Title  | Author
   Author_ID -+
 

Got something which does something similar

 If I open the Books table, I see Author_ID by number. I can create a 
 view, and see Title and Author, in what OOo names views, but they 
 are read only. Further more, once created the view, I can't go back and 
 change/add relations, it shows a different view of it, one that shows only 
 Title and Author as Text[Varchar], but not where they come from and 
 their relations, as if it were a new table.
 
 Useless. :-(

Not entirely...,

Main gripe is that under the hood is some OpenOffice scripting... but
the documentation for the scripting language is to put it at its
politest sparse the last time I looked at it 

There are somethings I would like to do (e.g. put in a template selector
for a default template) and do something about path handling so I do not
have to create different versions of the same template for Windows and
LInux.


 
 

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Re: [opensuse] Suse 10.3 beta install does not recognize raid drives

2007-09-17 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Art Fore [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 16:39 +0800, Art Fore wrote:
 When I install 10.3 Beta3, it does not recognize the raid drive setup
 from the previous beta2 install, same with beta2, it did not recognize
 the beta1 install on raid. I have to go through and create the raid1
 drives each time. Is there any secret to get these permanent? It does
 recognize a backup raid and wants to install on it.
 
 Art
 
 Well, this went from bad to worse. On initial reboot when it is
 installing the boot loader, it cannot find md3 which is where it just
 installed everything. Raid is as follows.

 md0   raid1   /boot   101 MB
 md1   raid0   swap1 GB
 md3   raid1   /   20 GB
 md4   raid1   /home   267 GB

 When booting, it comes up it cannot find /dev/md3 for initrd

 Has procedures changed for installing on raid or is this a bug.

Please file a critical bug at bugs.opensuse.org,

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[opensuse] Re: No access to DVD-Drives

2007-09-17 Thread Kostas Georgokitsos
On Friday 14 September 2007 15:43, Carlos E. R. wrote:
 The Friday 2007-09-14 at 13:28 +0100, G T Smith wrote:
   Here you go:
  
   /dev/hdc /media/dvd   iso9660 
   noauto,fs=cdfss,ro,procuid,nosuid,nodev,exec,iocharset=utf8 0 0
   /dev/hdd /media/dvdrecorder   iso9660 
   noauto,fs=cdfss,ro,procuid,nosuid,nodev,exec,iocharset=utf8 0 0
 
  It looks as if the automount is being fired up by the KDE Media Manager.
  The reference to /media/hdc suggests that something is not quite right
  with the configuration of KDE media player, unfortunately it rather
  seems that you can only enable or disable this module and there does not
  seem to anything to configure it...

 As I don't have 10.1 installed now, I can't verify it, but I think that
 the fstab line is wrong: it mixes two types of automounting.

 If he relies on KDE/Gnome automounting, then those two lines have to be
 disabled, for instance, commenting them out.

 Otherwise, rewrite it. For instance:

 /dev/dvd  /media/dvd  auto  ro,noauto,user,exec 0 0


 or what I use:


 /dev/dvd  /mnt/dvd auto   ro,noauto,user,exec 0 0


 so as no to interfere with the /media directory.

That was it. Thanks! I commented them out. I seldom do mount those manually.


Thanks again, this whole thing was really annoying.

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[opensuse] Re: Something wrong with opensuse.org's web sites?

2007-09-17 Thread Eberhard Roloff
Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
 Sun, 16 Sep 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 I got this yesterday or the day before as well and it is continuing now,
 in my case through the YAST software update/installer app.

 This is a general subject that has been bothering me, specifically I
 don't understand why pkg management under SUSE is so painful.  There are
 some basic things that I find curious:
 [..]
 
 If there's ever a reason for me to move on to e.g. Mac, it will be
 this whole packaging and install source thing.
 It's fscking ridiculous that there are 4 or 5 different tools for
 openSUSE, and none of them do what they're supposed to do, flawless,
 all the time.
 I'm not saying that there should only be one, I'm all for choice,
 but having 4 or 5 early Bèta stage tools, and no mature versions, is
 a bloody pain.
 
 Theo
In regard to Package Management, you always can have a look at Ubuntu or
Debian fopr tha tMatter. They may not have Yast but their Package
Management works greatly.

Actually I had concluded, that package management is not what I do for a
living, otherwise I would have switched to Ubuntu for long. ;-))

Kind regards
Eberhard

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Re: [opensuse] openoffice java

2007-09-17 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Monday 2007-09-17 at 09:26 +0100, G T Smith wrote:

  Because in OOo I can't use tables with relations in read/write mode, only
  read.
 
 Nope, I can do data entry without too much of a problem from the
 database view. Clunks a bit however

I can write to single tables, not those with relation active. I'll try to 
explain again...

My Library Libros table (simplified) is shown like this:

   TitleAuthor_nm
- -- - 
Robots and Empire 1
Rendezvous with Rama  2

I can create a new entry, but I have to look up manually the number of the 
corresponding author, and write up the number, not the name. Do you 
see what I mean?

This is useless.

I can create a table view, that combines two tables, like this:

   BooksAuthors
  ---  -
   Book_ID+--- Author_ID
   Title  | Author
   Author_ID -+


Now, the view shows correctly:

   TitleAuthor
- -- -
Robots and Empire  Asimov
Rendezvous with Rama   Clarke

But it is Read Only. Again, useless.


Do you understand the problem now?


All the above works perfectly, and much faster and with less complexity, 
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Re: [opensuse] Something wrong with opensuse.org's web sites?

2007-09-17 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Monday 2007-09-17 at 09:03 +0100, G T Smith wrote:

  The point of using mirrors is that you use diferent systems. My update
  have not broken or failed when you had those problems.
 
 Except, when something takes out both original and mirrors e.g. the
 recent packman blip...(which had little to do with SuSE). What I did
 find a little irritating in the latter case I got no option to disable
 but only the option to delete the offending location.

The only thing that can take out the whole thing is a bad file being 
distributed from suse to all the mirrors.

If one of the servers is down, when Yast checks it and fails, it will pop 
up a dialog: just tell it to ignore that source.

True, the whole thing should be worked out better, so that you can cancel 
anytime, or skip any time, and get better info, because the message 
always says something about the CD/DVD being bad, not about the remote 
source unless you make it show the details.

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Re: [opensuse] Problem sending and receiving mail

2007-09-17 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Sunday 2007-09-16 at 20:55 -0600, Alfredo Cole-Tuchler wrote:

 I have another box running openSUSE 10.2 that is configures to use the Windows
 machine as its internet gateway. I can surf the web ok, and I can send and
 receive mail using Evolution from the Gmail account, but not the other
 account. 

I would think you misconfiguration evolution somehow. Do it again. Or the 
remote pop server is down, or the windows machine is already connected to 
it. 

An error message would be good to have. Crystal balls are expensive and 
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Re: [opensuse] Re: Something wrong with opensuse.org's web sites?

2007-09-17 Thread jdd

Eberhard Roloff wrote:


Actually I had concluded, that package management is not what I do for a
living, otherwise I would have switched to Ubuntu for long. ;-))


two years ago, I had so many problems with debian package management I 
stopped trying it.


that is not to say openSUSE one don't need enhancement.

I remember Yast,... many years ago was not so slow on much less 
powerfull machines than today. I hope a solution will be shown in 
final 10.3 (in 10.1, even without zen, it's desperatly slow)


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Re: [opensuse] openoffice java

2007-09-17 Thread G T Smith
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Carlos E. R. wrote:
 
 The Monday 2007-09-17 at 09:26 +0100, G T Smith wrote:
 
 Because in OOo I can't use tables with relations in read/write mode, only
 read.
 Nope, I can do data entry without too much of a problem from the
 database view. Clunks a bit however
 
 I can write to single tables, not those with relation active. I'll try to 
 explain again...
 
 My Library Libros table (simplified) is shown like this:
 
TitleAuthor_nm
 -- - 
 Robots and Empire 1
 Rendezvous with Rama  2
 
 I can create a new entry, but I have to look up manually the number of the 
 corresponding author, and write up the number, not the name. Do you 
 see what I mean?
 
 This is useless.
 
 I can create a table view, that combines two tables, like this:
 
BooksAuthors
   ---  -
Book_ID+--- Author_ID
Title  | Author
Author_ID -+
 
 
 Now, the view shows correctly:
 
TitleAuthor
 -- -
 Robots and Empire  Asimov
 Rendezvous with Rama   Clarke
 
 But it is Read Only. Again, useless.
 
 
 Do you understand the problem now?
 

I understand the problem.

I have a form with a sub-form linked via an index... Whenever I select
an entry in primary form I see all relevant entries linked in the
sub-form... Can edit and update records in both form and sub-form...,

Table structure is roughly

Table A

Index, data

Table B

Index, Link to A index, data

Form to Sub form relationship based on linking field 1 to field 2...

Your structure implies a read only join...

Adding a new subform entry is clunky... and adding primary entries is
definitely very clunky indeed (when committing a new entry tend to keep
ending up on first record in table, so you have to go to the last entry
and continue from there).



 
 All the above works perfectly, and much faster and with less complexity, 
 with Rekall.
 

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[opensuse] SLED10_SP1 vs 10.3

2007-09-17 Thread Random P. Numbers
Hi

Are there any xtra repos (for YAST) for
SLED10 SP1. There are a few programs that 
I miss?

Is there a SP2 in the pipeline and if
so will it include KDE4?

Does the boxed version of SLED10 SP1
include more packages than the downloadable one?

Is it possible to Upgrade SLED evaluation
to 10.3? 
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Re: [opensuse] SLED10_SP1 vs 10.3

2007-09-17 Thread Magnus Boman
On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 13:14 +0200, Random P. Numbers wrote:
 Hi
 
 Are there any xtra repos (for YAST) for
 SLED10 SP1. There are a few programs that 
 I miss?

Go to software.opensuse.org/search and have a look if you can find them
there.

 
 Is there a SP2 in the pipeline and if
 so will it include KDE4?

Not sure when SP2 is due but pretty confident that you wont see KDE4 in
there. A SP will normally be bug/security fixes only (no version
upgrades).

 
 Does the boxed version of SLED10 SP1
 include more packages than the downloadable one?

No, the ISO and the boxed DVD are the same.

 
 Is it possible to Upgrade SLED evaluation
 to 10.3? 


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Re: [opensuse] SLED10_SP1 vs 10.3

2007-09-17 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Monday 2007-09-17 at 13:14 +0200, Random P. Numbers wrote:

 Is it possible to Upgrade SLED evaluation
 to 10.3? 

No.

I'm not even sure that's an upgrade, they are kind of diferent distros.

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[opensuse] posix incompliant usernames on SUSE

2007-09-17 Thread Peter Nixon
Hi Guys

I have spent several days porting a system across from an old Debian server 
to a shiny new openSUSE 10.2 machine including moving thousands of user 
accounts and home dirs. I was just about to put the new system into 
production and found that our provisioning scripts fail to create new users 
with the following error:

# useradd 00c002f8dfe9
useradd: Invalid account name `00c002f8dfe9'.

I dug a little deeper and found the following in the man page for SUSE's 
version of useradd:

The  account  name  must  begin  with  an alphabetic character and the rest 
of the string should be from the POSIX portable character class ([A-Za-z_]
[A-Za-z0-9_-.]*[A-Za-z0-9_-.$]).

Now, I am sure this is correct POSIX behaviour, but the fact is I have a 
working Debian system and a non working SUSE system with no chance to change 
the way our accounts are created. They ALL start with a number (because they 
are based on MAC addresses) and we have field deployed software using this 
system which would take months to update.

How can I turn off this account name check on SUSE?

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Re: [opensuse] SLED10_SP1 vs 10.3

2007-09-17 Thread Gaël Lams
Hi,

 Are there any xtra repos (for YAST) for
 SLED10 SP1. There are a few programs that
 I miss?

Did you check the SDK stuff?

 Is there a SP2 in the pipeline and if
 so will it include KDE4?

I don't think so: SP1 has just been released

 Does the boxed version of SLED10 SP1
 include more packages than the downloadable one?

I don't think so: by downloading the dvd iso you get what you have in
the box (apart maybe from a printed manual)

 Is it possible to Upgrade SLED evaluation
 to 10.3?

These are different products. You should choose between the
entreprise version and the opensuse  version. You have to decide
what is important for you: if you want a lot of updated software, go
with the opensuse distribution. SLED10 Service Packs will give you
some updated softwares (firefow went from 1.5 to 2.x, new kernel, ...)
but nothing similar to opensuse, as Novell could not provide support
to all the software around.

Kind regards,

Gaël


Re: [opensuse] SLED10_SP1 vs 10.3

2007-09-17 Thread Peter Van Lone
On 9/17/07, Random P. Numbers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi

 Are there any xtra repos (for YAST) for
 SLED10 SP1. There are a few programs that
 I miss?

I do not think there are any extra repos ... however, SLED 10 is
essentially similar to OpenSuse 10.1 ... so I have successfully used
this repo to add programs that were otherwise unavailable.

I like SLED (by that I mean some of the nice additions ... VPN in
network manager, the Helix Banshee offering especially after SP1, the
fact that it comes with the GroupWise client, etc ... )  but the
slimmer package repo and the much much smaller community means that
there are specific to sled issues that are sometimes difficult to
resolve. Plus the much slower dev/update cycle can be frustrating.

Peter



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Re: [opensuse] Problem sending and receiving mail

2007-09-17 Thread Alfredo Cole-Tuchler


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To: OS-en opensuse@opensuse.org
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 4:37 AM
Subject: Re: [opensuse] Problem sending and receiving mail



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The Sunday 2007-09-16 at 20:55 -0600, Alfredo Cole-Tuchler wrote:

I have another box running openSUSE 10.2 that is configures to use the 
Windows
machine as its internet gateway. I can surf the web ok, and I can send 
and

receive mail using Evolution from the Gmail account, but not the other
account.


I would think you misconfiguration evolution somehow. Do it again. Or the
remote pop server is down, or the windows machine is already connected to
it.

An error message would be good to have. Crystal balls are expensive and
unreliable.

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Cheers,

  Carlos E. R.


It's true. It's even worse here in Honduras. But really, Evolution goes 
through the process of downloading mail from my Gmail account, and then it 
says it found, say, two messages from my other account, and just waits until 
it shows an error message that basically says the connection timed out. If I 
pop that account from the winbox using outlook express, it downloads the 
messages fine, so the server is not down. So I'm really baffled.


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Re: [opensuse] Problem sending and receiving mail

2007-09-17 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Monday 2007-09-17 at 07:09 -0600, Alfredo Cole-Tuchler wrote:

 It's true. It's even worse here in Honduras. But really, Evolution goes
 through the process of downloading mail from my Gmail account, and then it
 says it found, say, two messages from my other account, and just waits until
 it shows an error message that basically says the connection timed out. If I
 pop that account from the winbox using outlook express, it downloads the
 messages fine, so the server is not down. So I'm really baffled.

Try fetchmail.

It's similar to a daemon, or runs from a console, it only fetches and then
forwards to postfix for local delivery. But it writes very verbose logs if 
you ask it to.

Sample .fetchmailrc file:

- -*-*-*
set postmaster cer
set nobouncemail
set no spambounce
set properties 
set syslog


poll nimrodel.valinor with proto imap, timeout 15, and tracepolls
user testing, with password a9e6i8o, is cer here, fetchall, and keep, 
and ssl
*-*-*-

You call it like fetchmail -v. Or -v -v for more diagnostic messages.

It's man pages are good.



Then, you can also trace the connection using wireshark (aka ethereal), 
both in linux and windows.


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Re: [opensuse] Problem sending and receiving mail

2007-09-17 Thread Dave Howorth
Carlos E. R. wrote:
 
 The Monday 2007-09-17 at 07:09 -0600, Alfredo Cole-Tuchler wrote:
 
 It's true. It's even worse here in Honduras. But really, Evolution goes
 through the process of downloading mail from my Gmail account, and then it
 says it found, say, two messages from my other account, and just waits until
 it shows an error message that basically says the connection timed out. If I
 pop that account from the winbox using outlook express, it downloads the
 messages fine, so the server is not down. So I'm really baffled.
 
 Try fetchmail.

Another basic debugging technique is just to connect to the POP3 server
using telnet and see what happens.

But even better would be to turn on logging in Evolution. Does it have
logging? How do you turn it on? Sometimes programs give more information
if you start them from a console.

Cheers, Dave
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Re: [opensuse] Problem sending and receiving mail

2007-09-17 Thread Alfredo Cole
El lun, 17-09-2007 a las 16:40 +0200, Carlos E. R. escribió:
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 The Monday 2007-09-17 at 07:09 -0600, Alfredo Cole-Tuchler wrote:
 
  It's true. It's even worse here in Honduras. But really, Evolution goes
  through the process of downloading mail from my Gmail account, and then it
  says it found, say, two messages from my other account, and just waits until
  it shows an error message that basically says the connection timed out. If I
  pop that account from the winbox using outlook express, it downloads the
  messages fine, so the server is not down. So I'm really baffled.
 
 Try fetchmail.
 
 It's similar to a daemon, or runs from a console, it only fetches and then
 forwards to postfix for local delivery. But it writes very verbose logs if 
 you ask it to.
(...)
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 Cheers,
Carlos E. R.

I tried using Kmail and Thunderbird with exactly the same results. So it
was  evident it was not an Evolution problem. I googled some more for a
different subject and then I found a page saying that MTU value could be
the problem. As root, I used ping -f -l 1500 192.168.0.1 (that is my
winbox's IP) and sure enough, there was a message WARNING: probably,
rcvbuf is not enough to hold preload.. I kept trying lower values until
I reached 576 for MTU. I went to Yast and set it for eth1, and now,
everything works fine. Maybe it will help others with similar problem.

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[opensuse] Re: Amarok won't start

2007-09-17 Thread Jonathan Arnold
Chris Vagionas wrote:
 I have no idea why, but amarok suddenly won't start.
 Every time i try to launch amarok I get the following:
 
 14:46 chvagion:~  amarok
 Amarok: [Loader] Starting amarokapp..
 Amarok: [Loader] Don't run gdb, valgrind, etc. against this binary! Use
 amarokapp.
 
 Any idea what to do ?

Funny you should bring this up - amarok has started doing the same thing
for me. A couple of lines and then nothing. Not sure what the problem
is.

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[opensuse] Re: Amarok won't start

2007-09-17 Thread Jonathan Arnold
Jonathan Arnold wrote:
 Chris Vagionas wrote:
 I have no idea why, but amarok suddenly won't start.
 Every time i try to launch amarok I get the following:

 14:46 chvagion:~  amarok
 Amarok: [Loader] Starting amarokapp..
 Amarok: [Loader] Don't run gdb, valgrind, etc. against this binary! Use
 amarokapp.

 Any idea what to do ?
 
 Funny you should bring this up - amarok has started doing the same thing
 for me. A couple of lines and then nothing. Not sure what the problem
 is.

I got it fixed by updating everything involved, including KDE.

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Re: [opensuse] posix incompliant usernames on SUSE

2007-09-17 Thread Andreas Winkelmann
On Monday 17 September 2007 14:56, Peter Nixon wrote:

 I have spent several days porting a system across from an old Debian server
 to a shiny new openSUSE 10.2 machine including moving thousands of user
 accounts and home dirs. I was just about to put the new system into
 production and found that our provisioning scripts fail to create new users
 with the following error:

 # useradd 00c002f8dfe9
 useradd: Invalid account name `00c002f8dfe9'.

 I dug a little deeper and found the following in the man page for SUSE's
 version of useradd:

 The  account  name  must  begin  with  an alphabetic character and the
 rest of the string should be from the POSIX portable character class
 ([A-Za-z_] [A-Za-z0-9_-.]*[A-Za-z0-9_-.$]).

 Now, I am sure this is correct POSIX behaviour, but the fact is I have a
 working Debian system and a non working SUSE system with no chance to
 change the way our accounts are created. They ALL start with a number
 (because they are based on MAC addresses) and we have field deployed
 software using this system which would take months to update.

 How can I turn off this account name check on SUSE?

Maybe:

$ man 5 login.defs

/etc/login.defs

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[opensuse] Reload of SLED and add repo's

2007-09-17 Thread Chris Arnold
OK, i have been trying for weeks to get the latest of libgnomecanvas and
gnome desktop environment installed on my sled SP1 install; and all
attempts have left the system broke/unusable. So, i am backing up
stuff now and thinking about reloading the system; and during the
install adding opensuse repos to install libgnomecnavas and the gnome
desktop environment. What are the steps needed to update gnome desktop
environment and libgnomecanvas? Should i be able to click on software
during the install and then search for libgnomecanvas (select the
version i want) and then search for gnome desktop environment and select
that new version and then install? I am just looking for the working
way to update some of this stuff.

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Re: [opensuse] Remote X display

2007-09-17 Thread Rasmus Plewe
On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 02:23:50PM -0400, RBStanfield wrote:
 Folks,
 
 It hasn't been a priority to remotely invoke X displays until now. Now I get
 and am at a loss to interpret 
 
 cannot connect to X server and
[...]
 
 What else do I need to do?

Use ssh -Y [EMAIL PROTECTED] to log in into the remote box. 


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Re: [opensuse] libgnomecanvas 2.14

2007-09-17 Thread Chris Arnold
Stanislav Visnovsky wrote:
 Select 'Add Online Repositories Before Installation' during the 'Installation 
 mode' step.
   
I do not see where Add Online Repositories Before Installation is and
where is Installation mode? I don't see a way to add a online source
during installation of SLED. I have a test pc that i am trying this on.
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Re: [opensuse] Remote X display

2007-09-17 Thread Damon Register

RBStanfield wrote:

Folks,

It hasn't been a priority to remotely invoke X displays until now. Now I get
and am at a loss to interpret 


cannot connect to X server and

This is one I see often when I am logged into another machine and forget
to set the DISPLAY environment variable.


Set DISPLAY environment variable, use -display option
   or check permissions of your X-Server

With the shell I am using it is
setenv DISPLAY my.localhost.ip:0.0

Without that your remote apps are trying to send their X commands to the
remote machine instead of yours

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Re: [opensuse] Remote X display

2007-09-17 Thread Greg Freemyer
On 9/17/07, RBStanfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Folks,

 It hasn't been a priority to remotely invoke X displays until now. Now I get
 and am at a loss to interpret

 cannot connect to X server and

Do you really need X server specifically, or just a way to remotely
access a graphical login that provides X functionality as if you were
local.

The standard remote X process is sort of clumsy and filled with little
gotchas IMHO.  A couple other choices are VNC and FreeNX.  OpenSUSE
comes with clients and servers for both.   (Windows clients also
readily available.)

I've been using FreeNX for the last couple SUSE releases.  FreeNX has
actually been a bit of a pain to keep running too, so if I were
starting from scratch I would consider VNC.

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[opensuse] Autoyast Installation 10.2

2007-09-17 Thread jeff garner
I have tried on three different occasions to do an FTP installation
using the autoinst file created from a base install image of
openSUSE10.2.  all three times it fails giving me an error that it
cannot find the profile on my FTP server.  I know that when I create a
file, then load it into the autoinstallation module of Yast, put in my
additional packages and change the root password I get that it is not a
valid xml file.  What is it about autoyast that is hosed that isn't
allowing a auto created xml file fail the validity check in yast?
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Re: [opensuse] Kontact / Kmail crashing (SIGSEGV 11)

2007-09-17 Thread ianseeks

 On Sunday 16 Sep 2007, Martin Mielke wrote:
 - Original Message 
 From: ianseeks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: opensuse@opensuse.org
 Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 4:54:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [opensuse] Kontact / Kmail crashing (SIGSEGV 11)

  On Friday 14 Sep 2007, Martin Mielke wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  after upgrading to KDE 3.5.7 the whole Kontact suite (Kmail, etc) crash
  just after launching it with a SIGSEGV 11.

 snip

  Before posting in here I did a search on the subject on bugs.kde.org but
  all were related to older versions and dated back in 2005 at least... so
  I guess it's new as it was working just fine before updating from KDE
  3.5.5 to 3.5.7...
 
  Has anyone faced this before and could maybe point me to a solution??

 have you tried launching each application separately to see if it email or
 addressbook or calendar that is crashing opposed to it being kontact
 itself?f


 -- yes, all of them give the same results: crash and SIGSEGV 11


Sounds like something fundemental, have you tried reinstalling Kontact or 
removing hte configuration files for each program? 
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Re: [opensuse] ncpfs and PAM configuration

2007-09-17 Thread David Tisdell
Hi Jeff,

There is a comment in common-auth that says that you
shouldn't edit it. It says it will get overwritten.
common-auth looked like the logical suse counterpart
to fedora's system-auth.
Of course /etc/X11/xorg.conf says not to edit it and I
have done so on several occasions without an issue.
Maybe using the syntax modeled in those HowTo's in
common-auth will do the trick.
I'll try that and report back to the list.

Dave
--- jeff garner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 David,
 
 are you referring to the RH named files like
 auth-config, etc?  if you
 can, look at examples of the RH files, there are the
 common- files in
 SUSE that are similar.
 
 On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 12:32 -0700, David Tisdell
 wrote:
  Hi all,
  
  I am running 10.2 with an RT kernel for digital
 audio.
  The client from Novell does not work with the RT
  kernel (The version 2 client which is in public
 beta
  works fine with a standard Suse kernel on 10.2)
 After
  exchanging emails with the maintainer of the novfs
  package, it sounded like it just wasn't going to
 work.
  I had the kernel-source, kernel-syms, and kernel
 all
  at the same version and installation would fail on
 the
  compile of novfs.
  It seemed like the time had come to move on and I
 am
  trying to get the ncpfs PAM plugin to work. It is
  supposed to be able to create a local account on
 the
  fly and mount the users's home directory from an
 NCP
  server (edirectory on Linux in this case).
  I have been trying to follow these HowTos:
 

http://www.k12ltsp.org/mediawiki/index.php/InterOperability:NovellAuthenticationforK12LTSP
 

http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/appnote/6019.html
  The problem is that they were written for Red
  Hat/Fedora and the PAM configuration is different.
  Files are referred to that don't exist on Suse in
  /etc/pam.d. I don't know what to do with the PAM
  configuration. Does anyone have any ideas? i
 emailed
  the ncpfs package maintainer and he said that he
  wasn't that familiar with Suse and couldn't help
 me on
  the specifics of PAM.
  Ideally I would like to have this be as seamless
 as
  possible for the end users. This is for a middle
  school classroom that is moving to Suse on the
  desktop.
  Thanks.
  
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[opensuse] ncpfs and PAM configuration

2007-09-17 Thread David Tisdell
Hi all,

I am running 10.2 with an RT kernel for digital audio.
The client from Novell does not work with the RT
kernel (The version 2 client which is in public beta
works fine with a standard Suse kernel on 10.2) After
exchanging emails with the maintainer of the novfs
package, it sounded like it just wasn't going to work.
I had the kernel-source, kernel-syms, and kernel all
at the same version and installation would fail on the
compile of novfs.
It seemed like the time had come to move on and I am
trying to get the ncpfs PAM plugin to work. It is
supposed to be able to create a local account on the
fly and mount the users's home directory from an NCP
server (edirectory on Linux in this case).
I have been trying to follow these HowTos:
http://www.k12ltsp.org/mediawiki/index.php/InterOperability:NovellAuthenticationforK12LTSP
http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/appnote/6019.html
The problem is that they were written for Red
Hat/Fedora and the PAM configuration is different.
Files are referred to that don't exist on Suse in
/etc/pam.d. I don't know what to do with the PAM
configuration. Does anyone have any ideas? i emailed
the ncpfs package maintainer and he said that he
wasn't that familiar with Suse and couldn't help me on
the specifics of PAM.
Ideally I would like to have this be as seamless as
possible for the end users. This is for a middle
school classroom that is moving to Suse on the
desktop.
Thanks.

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Re: [opensuse] Remote X display

2007-09-17 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Monday 17 September 2007 11:52, Rasmus Plewe wrote:
 ...

 If your local host is accepting this you have security holes you can
 drive a truck through. But please, tell me the IP of your local
 machine, so that I can send you embarrassing pictures on your screen
 when your boss is standing behind you... ;-)

134.5.8.29

-==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==-
% whois 134.5.8.29

OrgName:Lockheed Martin Corporation
OrgID:  LHMC
Address:1401 Del Norte
City:   Denver
StateProv:  CO
PostalCode: 80221
Country:US

NetRange:   134.5.0.0 - 134.5.255.255
CIDR:   134.5.0.0/16
NetName:LASC
NetHandle:  NET-134-5-0-0-1
Parent: NET-134-0-0-0-0
NetType:Direct Assignment
NameServer: NS1.LMCO.COM
NameServer: NS2.LMCO.COM
NameServer: NS3.LMCO.COM
Comment:
RegDate:1989-04-11
Updated:2005-02-07

OrgTechHandle: LMN-ORG-ARIN
OrgTechName:   Lockheed Martin Corporation
OrgTechPhone:  +1-303-430-2064
OrgTechEmail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==-


The whois information is consistent with the domain name of Damon's 
email address.

My guess is that there is sufficent firewall protection arond Lockheed 
Martin's corporate intranet as well as a VPN for employees when off 
premises and to connect different campuses.


 Regards,
  Rasmus


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[opensuse] USB Problem - WinXP under VMware Player

2007-09-17 Thread Andrei Verovski (aka MacGuru)
Hi !


I have WinXP running under VMware Player 6 (with all USB options enabled, 
VMware tools installed, and USB bus seen in WinXP guest), under SuSE 10.2.

M/b is MSI with Intel 965 chipset and Core 2 Duo CPU.

And now the problem: no matter what I have tried, I am was unable to get 
pocket PC working with ActiveSync. The device is simply not seen anywhere and 
anyhow.

So, I have connected iPod, and the symptom is the same - it is not been 
recognized at all by WinXP guest. Linux host recognizes it, but I am always 
instructed not to mount the iPod in KDE.

Any idea what can be wrong? How I can disable USB hotplug in Linux host?

Thanks in advance for any suggestion(s).

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Re: [opensuse] posix incompliant usernames on SUSE

2007-09-17 Thread Borsos Imre Attila
2007. 09. 17, hétfő keltezéssel 15.56-kor Peter Nixon ezt írta:
 Hi Guys
 
 I have spent several days porting a system across from an old Debian server 
 to a shiny new openSUSE 10.2 machine including moving thousands of user 
 accounts and home dirs. I was just about to put the new system into 
 production and found that our provisioning scripts fail to create new users 
 with the following error:
 
 # useradd 00c002f8dfe9
 useradd: Invalid account name `00c002f8dfe9'.
 
 I dug a little deeper and found the following in the man page for SUSE's 
 version of useradd:
 
 The  account  name  must  begin  with  an alphabetic character and the rest 
 of the string should be from the POSIX portable character class ([A-Za-z_]
 [A-Za-z0-9_-.]*[A-Za-z0-9_-.$]).
 
 Now, I am sure this is correct POSIX behaviour, but the fact is I have a 
 working Debian system and a non working SUSE system with no chance to change 
 the way our accounts are created. They ALL start with a number (because they 
 are based on MAC addresses) and we have field deployed software using this 
 system which would take months to update.
 
 How can I turn off this account name check on SUSE?
 
 TIA
 
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Hi!

If you use on the new openSUSE server local authentication, you can copy
the old /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow files from the Debian system and you
are ready in a simple way. It's just an idea.
You have to change the UID and GID values and rsync the home data.

Bye,
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[opensuse] Remote X display

2007-09-17 Thread RBStanfield
Folks,

It hasn't been a priority to remotely invoke X displays until now. Now I get
and am at a loss to interpret 

cannot connect to X server and

Set DISPLAY environment variable, use -display option
   or check permissions of your X-Server

when try to run Open Office remotely, for example.

DISPLAY environment variable --- What is it supposed to contain? I don't have
an example.

check permissions of your X-Server --- Permission of which file?

What else do I need to do?

Bob Stanfield
29 Ledge Ln
Pipersville, PA 18947
V 610-294-9884
F 610-294-8119
C 215-589-0230


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Re: [opensuse] ncpfs and PAM configuration

2007-09-17 Thread jeff garner
David,

are you referring to the RH named files like auth-config, etc?  if you
can, look at examples of the RH files, there are the common- files in
SUSE that are similar.

On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 12:32 -0700, David Tisdell wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I am running 10.2 with an RT kernel for digital audio.
 The client from Novell does not work with the RT
 kernel (The version 2 client which is in public beta
 works fine with a standard Suse kernel on 10.2) After
 exchanging emails with the maintainer of the novfs
 package, it sounded like it just wasn't going to work.
 I had the kernel-source, kernel-syms, and kernel all
 at the same version and installation would fail on the
 compile of novfs.
 It seemed like the time had come to move on and I am
 trying to get the ncpfs PAM plugin to work. It is
 supposed to be able to create a local account on the
 fly and mount the users's home directory from an NCP
 server (edirectory on Linux in this case).
 I have been trying to follow these HowTos:
 http://www.k12ltsp.org/mediawiki/index.php/InterOperability:NovellAuthenticationforK12LTSP
 http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/appnote/6019.html
 The problem is that they were written for Red
 Hat/Fedora and the PAM configuration is different.
 Files are referred to that don't exist on Suse in
 /etc/pam.d. I don't know what to do with the PAM
 configuration. Does anyone have any ideas? i emailed
 the ncpfs package maintainer and he said that he
 wasn't that familiar with Suse and couldn't help me on
 the specifics of PAM.
 Ideally I would like to have this be as seamless as
 possible for the end users. This is for a middle
 school classroom that is moving to Suse on the
 desktop.
 Thanks.
 
 Dave
 
 

 
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Re: [opensuse] Something wrong with opensuse.org's web sites?

2007-09-17 Thread Theo v. Werkhoven
Sun, 16 Sep 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On 09/16/2007 Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
 If there's ever a reason for me to move on to e.g. Mac, it will be
 this whole packaging and install source thing.
 It's fscking ridiculous that there are 4 or 5 different tools for
 openSUSE, and none of them do what they're supposed to do, flawless,
 all the time.
 I'm not saying that there should only be one, I'm all for choice,
 but having 4 or 5 early Bèta stage tools, and no mature versions, is
 a bloody pain.
 
 Theo
 
 If you ever find a piece of software that works flawless,
 all the time I would be very interested in it.

Let me rephrase that: robust enough so that I don't notice flaws
on servers and with connections.

A couple of days ago I reported about a problem between zypper and
ftp.gwdg.de. Those are the problems that I don't want to know about;
if there's a problem parsing /a/ file on /a/ server: *deal* with it
instead of bombing out and passing the shreds to me.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: Amarok won't start

2007-09-17 Thread Vagionas Chris

Jonathan Arnold wrote:

Jonathan Arnold wrote:
  

Chris Vagionas wrote:


I have no idea why, but amarok suddenly won't start.
Every time i try to launch amarok I get the following:

14:46 chvagion:~  amarok
Amarok: [Loader] Starting amarokapp..
Amarok: [Loader] Don't run gdb, valgrind, etc. against this binary! Use
amarokapp.

Any idea what to do ?
  

Funny you should bring this up - amarok has started doing the same thing
for me. A couple of lines and then nothing. Not sure what the problem
is.



I got it fixed by updating everything involved, including KDE

I solved the problem too..
I completely removed amarok and tried reiinstalling it, but nothing.
I also tried removing  my amarok-profile but nothing.
I could not find any solution (cause I had no warning or idea what the 
problem was)


So I just restored to a ghost image i had  created a week ago.




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Re: [opensuse] Kontact / Kmail crashing (SIGSEGV 11)

2007-09-17 Thread Susemail
On Sunday 16 September 2007 04:01:27 Martin Mielke wrote:
 - Original Message 
 From: ianseeks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: opensuse@opensuse.org
 Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 4:54:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [opensuse] Kontact / Kmail crashing (SIGSEGV 11)

  On Friday 14 Sep 2007, Martin Mielke wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  after upgrading to KDE 3.5.7 the whole Kontact suite (Kmail, etc) crash
  just after launching it with a SIGSEGV 11.

 snip

  Before posting in here I did a search on the subject on bugs.kde.org but
  all were related to older versions and dated back in 2005 at least... so
  I guess it's new as it was working just fine before updating from KDE
  3.5.5 to 3.5.7...
 
  Has anyone faced this before and could maybe point me to a solution??

 have you tried launching each application separately to see if it email or
 addressbook or calendar that is crashing opposed to it being kontact
 itself?f


 -- yes, all of them give the same results: crash and SIGSEGV 11



 Cheers,
 Martin

I'm having the same problem using Kmail in Kontact.  Also, while Kmail checks 
for mail, using Kmail to read mail, write mail or write passwords to access 
email accounts is very slow.
It's as if Kmail can only fetch mail when fetching mail.

Just today I have a filtered email that will not delete.  When I try to 'move 
to trash' it gets a red line through it but it doesn't move.  First time this 
has ever happened.

Jerome



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Re: [opensuse] Remote X display

2007-09-17 Thread Rasmus Plewe
On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 02:41:05PM -0400, Damon Register wrote:
 RBStanfield wrote:

 Set DISPLAY environment variable, use -display option
or check permissions of your X-Server
 
 With the shell I am using it is
 setenv DISPLAY my.localhost.ip:0.0

 Without that your remote apps are trying to send their X commands to the
 remote machine instead of yours

If your local host is accepting this you have security holes you can
drive a truck through. But please, tell me the IP of your local machine,
so that I can send you embarrassing pictures on your screen when your
boss is standing behind you... ;-)


Regards,
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Re: [opensuse] Autoyast Installation 10.2

2007-09-17 Thread Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC)
Hi Jeff,

jeff garner wrote:
 I have tried on three different occasions to do an FTP installation
 using the autoinst file created from a base install image of
 openSUSE10.2.  all three times it fails giving me an error that it
 cannot find the profile on my FTP server.  I know that when I create a
 file, then load it into the autoinstallation module of Yast, put in my
 additional packages and change the root password I get that it is not a
 valid xml file.  What is it about autoyast that is hosed that isn't
 allowing a auto created xml file fail the validity check in yast?

Whilst not directly related please review Bug 325554 as I believe it is
similar to what you want and has been 'delayed' until 11.0

Hope it helps
Hylton

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Re: [opensuse] SUSE 10.2, CBS innertube, no video

2007-09-17 Thread Ed Harrison
joe wrote:
 Kris Anderson wrote:

   
 When going to CBS' innertube, I can listen to but not
 watch the videos. Audio is working fine, video is not
 displaying.

 SuSe 10.2 is 64 bit install.

 What's the fix for this?
 


 Do you have a URL? I'm not familiar with the reference.

 Joe
   
It is a flash 9 presentation.  I have flash 9, but it won't work on mine
either.

Ed
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[opensuse] KDE newbie - performance monitoring?

2007-09-17 Thread Greg Freemyer
All,

I use ps, top, vmstat, iostat, etc. all the time from the CLI.

What's available for performance monitoring via GUI?

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Re: [opensuse] KDE newbie - performance monitoring?

2007-09-17 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Monday 17 September 2007 15:07, Greg Freemyer wrote:
 All,

 I use ps, top, vmstat, iostat, etc. all the time from the CLI.

 What's available for performance monitoring via GUI?

KDE System Guard / KSysGuard

KDE Menu - System - Monitor - Performance Monitor

 --or--

CTRL+ESC


 Greg


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Re: [opensuse] KDE newbie - performance monitoring?

2007-09-17 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Greg Freemyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-17-07 18:10]:
 I use ps, top, vmstat, iostat, etc. all the time from the CLI.
 
 What's available for performance monitoring via GUI?

18:18 wahoo:~/Desktop/Downloads  rpm -qi qps
Name: qps  Relocations: (not relocatable)
Version : 1.9.18.6  Vendor: (none)
Release : 1.guru.suse101Build Date: Sun 17 Dec 2006 
04:10:29 PM EST
Install Date: Sun 04 Mar 2007 06:26:32 PM EST  Build Host: hera.lan
Group   : System/Monitoring Source RPM: 
qps-1.9.18.6-1.guru.suse101.src.rpm
Size: 528730   License: GPL
Signature   : DSA/SHA1, Sun 17 Dec 2006 04:10:31 PM EST, Key ID af734c5a58857177
Packager: Pascal Bleser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
URL : http://qps.kldp.net/
Summary : Displays Processes In An X11 Window
Description :
Qps is a visual process manager, an X11 version of top or
ps that displays processes in a window and lets you sort and
manipulate them. It displays some general system information, and many
details about current processes (such as the TCP/UDP sockets in use by a
process). Qps runs on Linux and Solaris.
Distribution: SUSE LINUX 10.1 (X86-64)


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Re: [opensuse] KDE newbie - performance monitoring?

2007-09-17 Thread James Knott
Greg Freemyer wrote:
 All,

 I use ps, top, vmstat, iostat, etc. all the time from the CLI.

 What's available for performance monitoring via GUI?

 Greg
   
KSysGuard.  It should be on your Geko menu, under System  Monitor

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Re: [opensuse] openoffice java

2007-09-17 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Monday 2007-09-17 at 11:58 +0100, G T Smith wrote:

  Do you understand the problem now?
 
 I understand the problem.
 
 I have a form with a sub-form linked via an index... Whenever I select
 an entry in primary form I see all relevant entries linked in the
 sub-form... Can edit and update records in both form and sub-form...,

Hum!

I tried via forms, but I couldn't get it right.


 Table structure is roughly
 
 Table A
 
 Index, data
 
 Table B
 
 Index, Link to A index, data
 
 Form to Sub form relationship based on linking field 1 to field 2...
 
 Your structure implies a read only join...


Huh? Rekall does it read write just fine.

It shows like this:

TitleAuthor
 -- -
 Robots and Empire  Asimov ^
 Rendezvous with Rama   Clarke ^

The Author column fields are drop down lists from which I can choose an 
author from any author in the authors table.

 Adding a new subform entry is clunky... and adding primary entries is
 definitely very clunky indeed (when committing a new entry tend to keep
 ending up on first record in table, so you have to go to the last entry
 and continue from there).

Mmmm...


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Re: [opensuse] KDE newbie - performance monitoring?

2007-09-17 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Monday 17 September 2007 15:19, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
 * Greg Freemyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-17-07 18:10]:
  ...
 
  What's available for performance monitoring via GUI?

 18:18 wahoo:~/Desktop/Downloads  rpm -qi qps
 Name: qps
 Version : 1.9.18.6

Hey, nice. That one's new to me.

The tray icon is nice. I've taken to keeping top or htop running in a 
Konsole tab so when something peculiar happens, I can quickly switch 
over there to see what's up. This is even better.


Thanks for the tip.


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Re: [opensuse] KDE newbie - performance monitoring?

2007-09-17 Thread Greg Freemyer
On 9/17/07, Patrick Shanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 * Greg Freemyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-17-07 18:10]:
  I use ps, top, vmstat, iostat, etc. all the time from the CLI.
 
  What's available for performance monitoring via GUI?

 18:18 wahoo:~/Desktop/Downloads  rpm -qi qps
 Name: qps  Relocations: (not relocatable)
 Version : 1.9.18.6  Vendor: (none)
 Release : 1.guru.suse101Build Date: Sun 17 Dec 2006 
 04:10:29 PM EST
 Install Date: Sun 04 Mar 2007 06:26:32 PM EST  Build Host: hera.lan
 Group   : System/Monitoring Source RPM: 
 qps-1.9.18.6-1.guru.suse101.src.rpm
 Size: 528730   License: GPL
 Signature   : DSA/SHA1, Sun 17 Dec 2006 04:10:31 PM EST, Key ID 
 af734c5a58857177
 Packager: Pascal Bleser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 URL : http://qps.kldp.net/
 Summary : Displays Processes In An X11 Window
 Description :
 Qps is a visual process manager, an X11 version of top or
 ps that displays processes in a window and lets you sort and
 manipulate them. It displays some general system information, and many
 details about current processes (such as the TCP/UDP sockets in use by a
 process). Qps runs on Linux and Solaris.
 Distribution: SUSE LINUX 10.1 (X86-64)


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Thanks all, qps in particular is looking like it may always be open.

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Re: [opensuse] SUSE 10.2, CBS innertube, no video

2007-09-17 Thread Sloan
Ed Harrison wrote:
 joe wrote:
   
 Kris Anderson wrote:

   
 
 When going to CBS' innertube, I can listen to but not
 watch the videos. Audio is working fine, video is not
 displaying.

 SuSe 10.2 is 64 bit install.

 What's the fix for this?
 
   
 Do you have a URL? I'm not familiar with the reference.

 Joe
   
 
 It is a flash 9 presentation.  I have flash 9, but it won't work on mine
 either.
   
Got a URL?

Joe
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Re: [opensuse] libgnomecanvas 2.14

2007-09-17 Thread Chris Arnold
Chris Arnold wrote:
 Stanislav Visnovsky wrote:
   
 Select 'Add Online Repositories Before Installation' during the 
 'Installation 
 mode' step.
   
 
 I do not see where Add Online Repositories Before Installation is and
 where is Installation mode? I don't see a way to add a online source
 during installation of SLED. I have a test pc that i am trying this on.
   
I don't see how adding a repo during installation will even work b/c at
that point you don't even have an ip address. How are you going to go to
opensuse/whatever/repo or any repo on your network without an ip?
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[opensuse] Libgnomecanvas upgrade

2007-09-17 Thread Chris Arnold
Has anyone on this list, that uses SLED, been able to go from
libgnomecanvas 2.12 to libgnomecanvas 2.14? If so, can you share exactly
what you had to do to accomplish this.

Chris
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[opensuse] Open SUSE vs Enterprise SUSE

2007-09-17 Thread JJB
Are there any differences in the toolset provided by Novell? Any 
justifications one can think of for ordering SLED vs ordering a box with 
no os and installing OpenSUSE 10.2? Are there management tools included, 
for instance, anything like what OS X Server provides: GUI controls for 
configuring Samba, OpenDirectory?


Thanks,

Joel
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Re: [opensuse] Changing drivers on Xorg (intel card)

2007-09-17 Thread Ciro Iriarte
2007/9/2, Ciro Iriarte [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 2007/8/30, Ciro Iriarte [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  2007/8/30, Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   On 2007/08/30 20:09 (GMT-0400) Ciro Iriarte apparently typed:
  
Hi, replaced the i810 driver with intel looking for better results
on getting the s-video output to work but the server is using a wrong
DisplaySize leaving me with a weird desktop.
Pic: http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/7962/intelln4.png
  
I changed the config like this:
  
Section Monitor
#  DisplaySize  331 207 -- Old value
  DisplaySize  344 222 -- New value
  HorizSync30-62
  Identifier   Monitor[0]
  ModelNameFD1631154WB4 LCD MONITOR
  Option   DPMS
  VendorName   CPT
  VertRefresh  43-60
  UseModes Modes[0]
EndSection
  
But the x server seems to use the old value (already restarted it many
times), from the logs:
  
(II) intel(0): Supported additional Video Mode:
(II) intel(0): clock: 68.9 MHz   Image Size:  331 x 207 mm -- still
getting the old values
(II) intel(0): h_active: 1280  h_sync: 1301  h_sync_end 1333
h_blank_end 1408 h_border: 0
(II) intel(0): v_active: 800  v_sync: 801  v_sync_end 804 v_blanking:
816 v_border: 0
  
This is a Dell Inspiron 6400, X/SaX detects the card as 945 GM and
the laptop specs state (Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950), any
ideas?
  
   I can't tell what your screenshot is supposed to be showing, but here are
 
  It's the actual view from the laptop's LCD panel, i'm not tinkering
  yet with s-video. If you have a look at the kde panel, it's not aware
  of the actual panel size and the konqueror box is fully maximazed it
  should be covering the whole screen
 
   three changes to xorg.conf that I would try if it was my problem:
 
  I assume that's for testing with s-video, right?, i'll test it in case
  it's needed
 
  
   VertRefresh  56-61 # try this first
   #   UseModes Modes[0] try 2nd
   Option NoDDC # in Section Device for the graphics card (last resort)
  
   I doubt DDC can work via an S-Video connection.
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  Thanks a lot
  Ciro
 
 Anyone using the intel driver?

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No one?

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Re: [opensuse] Open SUSE vs Enterprise SUSE

2007-09-17 Thread Sloan
JJB wrote:
 Are there any differences in the toolset provided by Novell? Any
 justifications one can think of for ordering SLED vs ordering a box
 with no os and installing OpenSUSE 10.2? Are there management tools
 included, for instance, anything like what OS X Server provides: GUI
 controls for configuring Samba, OpenDirectory?

There are a few nice admin tools in SLES (not sure about SLED), that
aren't in OpenSuSE but the main differences are in the amount of polish,
and of course the support available.

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Re: [opensuse] KDE newbie - performance monitoring?

2007-09-17 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-17-07 18:41]:
 Hey, nice. That one's new to me.

  :^)

 The tray icon is nice. I've taken to keeping top or htop running in a 
 Konsole tab so when something peculiar happens, I can quickly switch 
 over there to see what's up. This is even better.

I do also.  You have an instant indication of load all the time.
GKrellm is quite similar and give an indication of net access and hard
disk usage, vital temps and fan speeds, but is rather intrusive on the
desktop  :^(

 Thanks for the tip.

I gain much from the lists, it's pleasing to be able to pass some of
it on occasionally  :^)

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Re: [opensuse] SUSE 10.2, CBS innertube, no video

2007-09-17 Thread Ed Harrison
Sloan wrote:
 Ed Harrison wrote:
   
 joe wrote:
   
 
 Kris Anderson wrote:

   
 
   
 When going to CBS' innertube, I can listen to but not
 watch the videos. Audio is working fine, video is not
 displaying.

 SuSe 10.2 is 64 bit install.

 What's the fix for this?
 
   
 
 Do you have a URL? I'm not familiar with the reference.

 Joe
   
 
   
 It is a flash 9 presentation.  I have flash 9, but it won't work on mine
 either.
   
 
 Got a URL?

 Joe
   
www.cbs.com/innertube
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Re: [opensuse] KDE newbie - performance monitoring?

2007-09-17 Thread Carlos E. R.
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 * Randall R Schulz  [09-17-07 18:41]:
  Hey, nice. That one's new to me.
 
   :^)
 
  The tray icon is nice. I've taken to keeping top or htop running in a 
  Konsole tab so when something peculiar happens, I can quickly switch 
  over there to see what's up. This is even better.
 
 I do also.  You have an instant indication of load all the time.
 GKrellm is quite similar and give an indication of net access and hard
 disk usage, vital temps and fan speeds, but is rather intrusive on the
 desktop  :^(

You might sugest to the packagers to include it in 10.3 mainline.

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Re: [opensuse] KDE newbie - performance monitoring?

2007-09-17 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-17-07 21:41]:
 
 You might sugest to the packagers to include it in 10.3 mainline.
 

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[opensuse] printer sharing with samba

2007-09-17 Thread Ron Eggler
Hi,

I've setup a printer and would like to share it with samba on my network so i 
can print from my clients, smbclient is saying following:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ smbclient -U% -L server
Domain=[TUX-NET] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.22-13.32-1354-SUSE-CODE10]

Sharename   Type  Comment
-     ---
media   Disk  Media Share
dataDisk  Data Share
IPC$IPC   IPC Service (Samba 
3.0.22-13.32-1354-SUSE-CODE10)
ADMIN$  IPC   IPC Service (Samba 
3.0.22-13.32-1354-SUSE-CODE10)
Deskjet_D4200   Printer
Domain=[TUX-NET] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.22-13.32-1354-SUSE-CODE10]

Server   Comment
----
DESKTOP-REG  Samba 3.0.23d-19.7-1354-SUSE-SL10.2
SERVER   Samba 3.0.22-13.32-1354-SUSE-CODE10

WorkgroupMaster
----
TUX-NET  DESKTOP-REG
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But if I wanna add it by Yast I get: NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME and in 
Windows i get: Access dinied, unable to connect. So i guess it would be a 
user access problem. The global and printer section in my smb.conf looks 
like:
[global]
workgroup = TUX-NET
printing = cups
printcap name = cups
printcap cache time = 750
cups options = raw
map to guest = Bad User
include = /etc/samba/dhcp.conf
logon path = \\%L\profiles\.msprofile
logon home = \\%L\%U\.9xprofile
logon drive = P:
usershare allow guests = Yes
add machine script = /usr/sbin/useradd  -c
Machine -d /var/lib/nobody -s /bin/false %m$
domain logons = No
domain master = No
security = user
[printers]
   comment = All Printers
   path = /var/spool/samba
   browseable = yes
   guest ok = yes
   writable = no
   printable = yes
i wanna say that i have two directoties shared and they're working just fine 
to access with cifs and Windows.

Thanks for any help there!
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Re: [opensuse] Reload of SLED and add repo's

2007-09-17 Thread Jonathan Ervine
On Monday 17 September 2007 18:00:56 Chris Arnold wrote:
 OK, i have been trying for weeks to get the latest of libgnomecanvas
 and gnome desktop environment installed on my sled SP1 install; and
 all attempts have left the system broke/unusable. So, i am backing

Sorry - I'm coming to this late and haven't seen any earlier posts about 
problems with installing libgnomecanvas et al.

 up stuff now and thinking about reloading the system; and during the
 install adding opensuse repos to install libgnomecnavas and the gnome
 desktop environment. What are the steps needed to update gnome

Adding openSUSE (10.2?) repos to a SLED 10 (SP1) install does not strike 
me as particularly wise. Even adding SUSE Linux 10.1 repos to a SLED 10 
installation doesn't really sit well either.

 desktop environment and libgnomecanvas? Should i be able to click on
 software during the install and then search for libgnomecanvas
 (select the version i want) and then search for gnome desktop

The whole point of SLED is that it provides a stable environment, which 
implies that's it's not going to be shipping with the latest versions 
of software. In your particular instance, libgnomecanvas is supplied 
with SLED (version 2.12).

 environment and select that new version and then install? I am just
 looking for the working way to update some of this stuff.

I would guess from your post that you're looking for a more up to date 
version of libgnomecanvas - possibly a requirement for another piece of 
software? If this is the case, then I would also imagine that trying to 
update libgnomecanvas on SLED 10 is going to involve updating a lot of 
other GNOME components (maybe a complete GNOME version update?), which 
is not going to be much fun at all. It would appear that the original 
piece of software you want to install therefore isn't certified to run 
on SLED 10. Maybe using openSUSE instead of SLED is an option?

Regards,
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Re: [opensuse] Re: OpenSuse 10.2

2007-09-17 Thread RTF

Re-hi all,

Last night I successfully (apparently) installed OpenSuse 10.2.  It was 
getting late and I let it run its course when I went to bed.  This 
morning it looked like the only thing I needed to do was set username 
and password but for some reason, it wasn't working.  In the interest of 
time and checking e-mail before I went to work, I went ahead and checked 
mail via Windows.  Tonight, I attempted to boot into OpenSuse but was 
confronted with the sign-on.  I tried what I normally would have used as 
a root username and password unsuccessfully.  The same with my normal 
username and password.  I have not set them but don't know how now to do 
that?  Any clues?  It is installed but I have not yet assigned a 
password for root (nor is root recognized without a password (which I 
have not yet assigned) and I certainly have not yet assigned a regular 
username and password.  :(


Any help would be appreciated.

Best Regards,
Rob Fleetwood
Rockville, MD

Jonathan Arnold wrote:

RTF wrote:
  

RTF wrote:


Greetings all.  I'm preparing to install OpenSuse 10.2 and have been
browsing the web reading various installation instructions (just to
make sure I don't go an overwrite my MBR or something else stupid) and
came across the following...

Quote -
You will see now a summary of the Installation Settings, which comes
in a Standard (default) and Expert (for power users) view.  I will
suggest using an empty hard drive for this installation;  that means
no other operating system on it, ok?  The partition process is
automatic and it will erase all your data from the selected hard drive.
Unquote -

I have my hard drive split into two different partitions by Partition
Magic.  Can I safely assume I may substitute selected partition for
selected hard drive above?  I've never run into such a draconian
warning with any other Linux distribution and I have installed several
over the years, always with a dual boot arrangement with Windows.

Thanks in advance.

Rob
  

Well...I attempted to install once again tonight and was confronted with
the following Installation Summary:

* Delete logical volume /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 (68.8 gb)
*Delete logical volume /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol01 (1.9 gb)
*Remove volume group VolGroup00
*Delete partition /dev/sda2 (101.9 gb)
*Delete partition /dev/sda3 (70.8 gb
*Delete partition /dev/sda5(? hard to read on the screen) (70.8 gb)

Needless to say, I did not procede further with the installation.  :(



That's what it will do by default. But if you just click on the Partition
selection, you can select from a bunch of different option, including picking
whatever partition you want.

And yeah, pick an empty partition, not necessarily an empty hard drive, is the
way to go.

My favorite online installation guide is here:

http://www.opensuse.computerlanguages.org/install.php

And be sure to check out Hacking 10.2 here:

http://www.softwareinreview.com/cms/content/view/60/

  


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Re: [opensuse] SUSE 10.2, CBS innertube, no video

2007-09-17 Thread Clayton
  It is a flash 9 presentation.  I have flash 9, but it won't work on mine
  either.
 
 
  Got a URL?
 
  Joe
 
 www.cbs.com/innertube


The requirements claim Flash 8,  RealPlayer Plus, and FireFox 1.5.
So... you would think it would work.  I also get audio and no video.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: OpenSuse 10.2

2007-09-17 Thread Don Raboud
On Monday 17 September 2007 20:46, RTF wrote:
  I tried what I normally would have used as
 a root username and password unsuccessfully.  The same with my normal
 username and password.  I have not set them but don't know how now to do
 that?  Any clues?  It is installed but I have not yet assigned a
 password for root (nor is root recognized without a password (which I
 have not yet assigned) and I certainly have not yet assigned a regular
 username and password.  :(

When you boot openSUSE (using GRUB I assume) there is a place to enter boot 
options.  If you enter init=/bin/bash (without the quotes) that will boot 
and get you a shell with root permissions.

Here just issue the command passwd to set the root password to whatever you 
like.  

After that reboot normally and you should be able to log in as root.

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Re: [opensuse] SUSE 10.2, CBS innertube, no video

2007-09-17 Thread joe

Ed Harrison wrote:
 Sloan wrote:

 Got a URL?

 www.cbs.com/innertube

OK, with flash-9.0.48 I see the media player, and everything looks promising,
but when it starts, I get sound and no video.

However, if I use the flash-beta (flash-plugin-9.0.60.184-release) downloaded
from macromedia, I do see the video. That beta plugin has other issues though,
e.g. the music controls on pandora.com don't work. But it's a promising sign
that the next flash update will make cbs innertube work.

Joe
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Re: [opensuse] SUSE 10.2, CBS innertube, no video

2007-09-17 Thread BandiPat
On Monday 17 September 2007, Ed Harrison wrote:
 joe wrote:
  Kris Anderson wrote:
  When going to CBS' innertube, I can listen to but not
  watch the videos. Audio is working fine, video is not
  displaying.
 
  SuSe 10.2 is 64 bit install.
 
  What's the fix for this?
 
  Do you have a URL? I'm not familiar with the reference.
 
  Joe

 It is a flash 9 presentation.  I have flash 9, but it won't work on
 mine either.

 Ed
===

No trouble here using Iceweasel, flash r48 build and Zenwalk Linux.  
Only problem I ran in to was having to allow popups for that site in 
the browser.  Iceweasel is the gnu version of Firefox, so either works.  
I didn't try Konqueror, but I've had very few problems to date with 
multimedia in Zenwalk.

Lee

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Re: [opensuse] KDE newbie - performance monitoring?

2007-09-17 Thread BandiPat
On Monday 17 September 2007, Greg Freemyer wrote:
 All,

 I use ps, top, vmstat, iostat, etc. all the time from the CLI.

 What's available for performance monitoring via GUI?

 Greg
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gkrellm is good and if you want something a bit less intrusive, as one 
writer mentioned, try conky.  Not much you can't program that one to 
do!

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Re: [opensuse] SUSE 10.2, CBS innertube, no video

2007-09-17 Thread Kai Ponte
On Monday 17 September 2007 20:14, Clayton wrote:
   It is a flash 9 presentation.  I have flash 9, but it won't work on
   mine either.
  
   Got a URL?
  
   Joe
 
  www.cbs.com/innertube

 The requirements claim Flash 8,  RealPlayer Plus, and FireFox 1.5.
 So... you would think it would work.  I also get audio and no video.

...here come the usual it works for me emails...

I have Firefox 2.0.x, Flash 9.0 r48 and RealPlayer 9.

http://donutmonster.com/stuff/2007/20070917_cbs_innertube.jpg

I did notice that when I right-clicked on the screen I didn't get a menu that 
I recognized.  It just had three options - play, pause and stop.



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Re: [opensuse] Open SUSE vs Enterprise SUSE

2007-09-17 Thread John Burski

Sloan wrote:

JJB wrote:
  

Are there any differences in the toolset provided by Novell? Any
justifications one can think of for ordering SLED vs ordering a box
with no os and installing OpenSUSE 10.2? Are there management tools
included, for instance, anything like what OS X Server provides: GUI
controls for configuring Samba, OpenDirectory?



There are a few nice admin tools in SLES (not sure about SLED), that
aren't in OpenSuSE but the main differences are in the amount of polish,
and of course the support available.

Joe
  
SLED comes with a few extra goodies.  Groupwise 7.0 is included, as is a 
Citrix client.  I've one setup at work for evaluation purposes.


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[opensuse] OGG but no MP3 in multiple applications

2007-09-17 Thread wmeler
I don't know why but I cannot get any MP3s to play in juk, amarok, or
xmms in a brand new installation of opensuse 10.2.  OGG files play
just fine.  I uninstalled any mp3-related RPMs, restarted suse, and
re-installed them.  No dice.  Also installed lame to no avail.

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Re: [opensuse] OGG but no MP3 in multiple applications

2007-09-17 Thread B.W.H. van Beest

wmeler wrote:

I don't know why but I cannot get any MP3s to play in juk, amarok, or
xmms in a brand new installation of opensuse 10.2.  OGG files play
just fine.  I uninstalled any mp3-related RPMs, restarted suse, and
re-installed them.  No dice.  Also installed lame to no avail.

  
I had a similar situation with Suse 10.2 although I'm not sure about OGG 
files.
In my case the problem was that no normal user account belonged to the 
group audio.
You can verify and possibly add the group audio via yast2-user accounts 
(I don't have my Suse system at hand, so this is from my memory).


I found out after I discovered that when I was logged in as root (with 
also the KDE-desktop started from root), the sound system worked as 
expected.


Good luck

Bertwim
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