Re: [opensuse-factory] switch to Factory from 10.3
Dňa Monday 03 December 2007 07:22:59 Artyom Loenko ste napísal: hi all. i want to go from my 10.3 to Factory, rather, I want to help with testing. i disable OSS and non-OSS repo of 10.3 at Yast and add a Factory repos, but when i try to zypper up -t package i sew the following: Problem: Cannot install mktemp, because it is conflicting with coreutils A conflict over mktemp == 1.5-812 (mktemp) requires the removal of mktemp-1.5-812.i586[Factory_OSS] which is scheduled for installation === mktemp-1.5-812.i586[Factory_OSS] === mktemp-1.5-812.i586[Factory_OSS] will be installed by the user. === coreutils-6.9.89.48-2.i586[Factory_OSS] === coreutils-6.9.89.48-2.i586[Factory_OSS] will be installed by the user. coreutils-6.9.89.48-2.i586[Factory_OSS] is needed by cron-4.1-136.i586[Factory_OSS] (coreutils == 6.9.89.48-2) Solution 1: do not install mktemp do not install mktemp-1.5-812.i586[Factory_OSS] Solution 2: do not install coreutils do not install coreutils-6.9.89.48-2.i586[Factory_OSS] Solution 3: Ignore this conflict of mktemp number, (r)etry or (c)ancel what should i do? just ignoring that conflict? I would suggest to update zypper first: 'zypper in zypper' But that's unrelated to the problem you see. Stano - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] switch to Factory from 10.3
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007, Artyom Loenko wrote: hi all. i want to go from my 10.3 to Factory, rather, I want to help with testing. i disable OSS and non-OSS repo of 10.3 at Yast and add a Factory repos, but when i try to zypper up -t package i sew the following: Problem: Cannot install mktemp, because it is conflicting with coreutils A conflict over mktemp == 1.5-812 (mktemp) requires the removal of mktemp-1.5-812.i586[Factory_OSS] which is scheduled for installation === mktemp-1.5-812.i586[Factory_OSS] === mktemp-1.5-812.i586[Factory_OSS] will be installed by the user. === coreutils-6.9.89.48-2.i586[Factory_OSS] === coreutils-6.9.89.48-2.i586[Factory_OSS] will be installed by the user. coreutils-6.9.89.48-2.i586[Factory_OSS] is needed by cron-4.1-136.i586[Factory_OSS] (coreutils == 6.9.89.48-2) Solution 1: do not install mktemp do not install mktemp-1.5-812.i586[Factory_OSS] Solution 2: do not install coreutils do not install coreutils-6.9.89.48-2.i586[Factory_OSS] Solution 3: Ignore this conflict of mktemp number, (r)etry or (c)ancel what should i do? just ignoring that conflict? you can delete (or not install) mktemp, but this is not the only conflict with the new coreutils, /bin/arch from util-linux is the next conflict on the list. The new mktemp from coreutils is 99% compatible to the old one, the only thing I found missing is the -V option to display the version number which does not make too much sense now that the binary lives inside a larger package with it's own version number. We'll hopefully clean this up today. -- with kind regards (mit freundlichem Grinsen), Ruediger Oertel ([EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- Linux Fatou 2.6.24-rc2-git6-4-default #1 SMP 2007/11/21 14:44:47 UTC x86_64 Key fingerprint = 17DC 6553 86A7 384B 53C5 CA5C 3CE4 F2E7 23F2 B417 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg)
Re: [opensuse-factory] Old factory url's no longer valid?
Am Montag 03 Dezember 2007 schrieb M9.: Hi, I also wanted to change to factory again, but found that yast could not make source from them: ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/ ftp://ftp.uni-heidelberg.de/pub/linux/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/ Look into that URLs, there is a directory named pretty obvious to me - inst-source. But as others wrote: today is not a good day to switch :) Greetings, Stephan -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Old factory url's no longer valid?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stephan Kulow schreef: Am Montag 03 Dezember 2007 schrieb M9.: Hi, I also wanted to change to factory again, but found that yast could not make source from them: ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/ ftp://ftp.uni-heidelberg.de/pub/linux/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/ Look into that URLs, there is a directory named pretty obvious to me - inst-source. But as others wrote: today is not a good day to switch :) OK, so today is not a good day, maybe tomorrow, or the day after tomorrow... I did look into them, but might have woke up stupid this morning ;-) Greetings, Stephan - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.22.5-31-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (x86_64) KDE: 3.5.8 release 21.2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHU9zJX5/X5X6LpDgRAgzUAJ4j7v9WRdTXGRev6k+KT/vXRJMb6wCfUlUg baYC7nANF8qFof5wFa72V9s= =rmKf -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Old factory url's no longer valid?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I also wanted to change to factory again, but found that yast could not make source from them: ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/ ftp://ftp.uni-heidelberg.de/pub/linux/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/ - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.22.5-31-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (x86_64) KDE: 3.5.8 release 21.2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHU9huX5/X5X6LpDgRAt2KAJ0fjGKyLNCDba22YvPfaqakqWpI/gCdH1OB pCnIk+wnvsdIDbyjrysWk3o= =3M0t -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Problem booting a new hard drive with openSUSE 10.3
Carlos E. R. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2007-12-02 at 19:04 -, Sid Boyce wrote: When I boot from 10.3 x86_64 DVD or from the ext3 drive, I can mount the jfs partition, also chroot works. In rescue mkinitrd also says the jfs module is included. I may try with jfs in front of ext3 in case it's due to a race condition. I think you need a small /boot partition in ext2 format. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. That would be a step a long way back in time. I thought slicing and dicing a separate /boot partition went out with the need for steam trains, when PC BIOS restrictions meant you couldn't boot from a partition extending beyond the first 1024 cylinders. If the partition is ext3, reiserfs or anything else, it doesn't matter and I suspect jfs wouldn't be that immature. Having said that, there is a gremlin in there somewhere. Perhaps later this week I shall try a new 10.3 jfs install on a relative's box currently running 10.0, we have a spare 160G IDE drive sitting there ready. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] switch to Factory from 10.3
Artyom Loenko wrote: hi all. i want to go from my 10.3 to Factory, rather, I want to help with testing. i disable OSS and non-OSS repo of 10.3 at Yast and add a Factory repos, but when i try to zypper up -t package i sew the following: Problem: Cannot install mktemp, because it is conflicting with coreutils A conflict over mktemp == 1.5-812 (mktemp) requires the removal of mktemp-1.5-812.i586[Factory_OSS] which is scheduled for installation === mktemp-1.5-812.i586[Factory_OSS] === mktemp-1.5-812.i586[Factory_OSS] will be installed by the user. === coreutils-6.9.89.48-2.i586[Factory_OSS] === coreutils-6.9.89.48-2.i586[Factory_OSS] will be installed by the user. coreutils-6.9.89.48-2.i586[Factory_OSS] is needed by cron-4.1-136.i586[Factory_OSS] (coreutils == 6.9.89.48-2) Solution 1: do not install mktemp do not install mktemp-1.5-812.i586[Factory_OSS] Solution 2: do not install coreutils do not install coreutils-6.9.89.48-2.i586[Factory_OSS] Solution 3: Ignore this conflict of mktemp number, (r)etry or (c)ancel what should i do? just ignoring that conflict? I saw exactly the same on x86_64 last night and I did rpm -Uvh http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/x86_64/mktemp-1.5-812.x86_64.rpm;, then selected (r)etry. Be warned that going from 10.3 GM will throw up many more packages that require some action, whether you use zypper or boot from CD/DVD and select Factory Installation sources, so it will be a long game of getting conflicts resolved. I'm going from 10.3.1 Alpha0 currently using zypper up -t package. It did fail in the middle of the update last night while the download.opensuse.org was being updated. Restarted it about 20 minutes ago and I had to resolve one conflict, then it started the update going again. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] About kde4 bugs in kde-four-live
HI all, I don't have time to search/follow kde bugzilla so what I have to do with kde4 bugs in kde-for-live? Found two (reproduceable): Dolphin _always_ crash (sig11) pressing F4 (show terminal) Kexi doens't start. Error opening ksycoca or something related, I dont remenber well now.. So, I report them to you (novell-bugzilla) ? Are know bugs ? Let me know.. Bye. -- *** Linux user # 198661 ---_ ICQ 33500725 *** *** Home http://www.kailed.net *** *** Powered by openSUSE *** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Help Wanted: Move YaST tutorials from forgeftp.novell.com to openSUSE WIKI
On Monday 03 December 2007, J. Daniel Schmidt wrote: On Saturday 01 December 2007, jdd wrote: and also WIKI page for every single YaST module: http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Modules Your example (YaST Printer): http://en.opensuse.org/YaST_Printer for example, why is not the printer page under YaST/modules/printer??? Not yet moved there. But YaST/Modules/Printer is definitely the correct location. In my reorganisation of the YaST-pages I did not touch these sites. But as it is a wiki everybody is invited to help :) I just moved all modules pages and changed the links. Ciao, Daniel -- J. Daniel Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE Linux Products GmbH Research Development Maxfeldstr. 5 GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) D-90409 Nürnberg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Help Wanted: Move YaST tutorials from forgeftp.novell.com to openSUSE WIKI
J. Daniel Schmidt wrote: On Saturday 01 December 2007, jdd wrote: and also WIKI page for every single YaST module: http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Modules Your example (YaST Printer): http://en.opensuse.org/YaST_Printer for example, why is not the printer page under YaST/modules/printer??? Not yet moved there. But YaST/Modules/Printer is definitely the correct location. In my reorganisation of the YaST-pages I did not touch these sites. But as it is a wiki everybody is invited to help :) don't !! looks like making several subpages levels is not that good (see other thread) and this was just an example jdd -- http://www.dodin.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Problem booting a new hard drive with openSUSE 10.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2007-12-03 at 13:07 -, Sid Boyce wrote: That would be a step a long way back in time. I thought slicing and dicing a separate /boot partition went out with the need for steam trains, when PC BIOS restrictions meant you couldn't boot from a partition extending beyond the first 1024 cylinders. Saying that is as if the politicians say that there is no need for protection or that your job and savings are secure :-P The theory is that you do not need a separate boot partition. However... the truth is that in some scenarios it does help, and my xtall ball tells me this /may/ be one of those cases. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHVKx7tTMYHG2NR9URAiMiAJ0dzCX1BCK/m3ijlB/WY4KLrPjODQCeMttH yRCDWqv5Zfo6tMEVTqYaQEA= =UMlM -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Help Wanted: Move YaST tutorials from forgeftp.novell.com to openSUSE WIKI
On Monday 03 December 2007 01:37:08 pm jdd wrote: J. Daniel Schmidt wrote: On Saturday 01 December 2007, jdd wrote: and also WIKI page for every single YaST module: http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Modules Your example (YaST Printer): http://en.opensuse.org/YaST_Printer for example, why is not the printer page under YaST/modules/printer??? Not yet moved there. But YaST/Modules/Printer is definitely the correct location. In my reorganisation of the YaST-pages I did not touch these sites. But as it is a wiki everybody is invited to help :) don't !! looks like making several subpages levels is not that good (see other thread) and this was just an example Done. You can see wiki: recent changes. Daniel made quite some effort to bring all related pages presented in the same way. That it gives some of us headache is another question. We have to establish new guidelines, so that at least frequent editors do all in the same way. Wiki is no more little pet that can be moved around at will, and it is still growing, thanks to guys like Daniel that are not afraid of work. -- Regards, Rajko - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Starting apps automatically in console session - SOLVED
Søndag 02 december 2007 16:38 skrev Randall R Schulz: On Sunday 02 December 2007 00:14, Stephan Hegel wrote: Hi all, A while back I asked how to start console apps automatically in a certain konsole session. I just want share the little script I wrote last night: it launches the atop utility in an existing session named Atop. That looks handy. I can see using it. You might consider generalizing it a bit. E.g., if a script matching the session name can be found in a particular directory, say $HOME/session-startup/, then that script is launched in the matching session. Then the script need not be modified to accommodate changes in the complement of pre-assigned sessions you want to handle. Might be the general idea behind is useful for somebody out there. That's why I've put a few more comments in it ... Assuming an invocation of this script is to be placed in $HOME/.bash_profile, you might want to gracefully handle the case where the shell is running outside of KDE. That includes on virtual consoles, when connecting remotely via ssh and possible when using screen. I don't know if Gnome uses dcop or something else, so it might fail there and under different desktops and window managers as well. In short, be prepared for dcop to fail and do nothing (probably silently) in that case. Rgds, Stephan. Randall Schulz God morning, - how would one be able to detect if the script is being started outside of KDE? Can anyone come up with a short hint ? - thank you! -- - Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard Novell Certified Linux Professional 10035701 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Starting apps automatically in console session - SOLVED
On Monday 03 December 2007 08:34:52 Verner Kjærsgaard wrote: God morning, - how would one be able to detect if the script is being started outside of KDE? Can anyone come up with a short hint ? - thank you! Hi Verner Maybe your script could check with env? Using konsole I get [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ env | grep KDE KDE_MULTIHEAD=false KDE_NO_IPV6=1 KDE_FULL_SESSION=true KDE_SESSION_UID=1000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ In a text console, nothing shows up. Cheers Pete -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Simpler forum for OpenSUSE?
Hi All: This mailing-list is pitched too high for me. Please point me to any resource for OpenSUSE 10.3 which is simpler to understand. (I do have elementary knowledge of UNIX.) I'm hoping to migrate from WinXP to OpenSUSE 100% once I'm confident enough. Thanks AE Souza Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Simpler forum for OpenSUSE?
Tony D'Souza wrote: Hi All: This mailing-list is pitched too high for me. Please point me to any resource for OpenSUSE 10.3 which is simpler to understand. (I do have elementary knowledge of UNIX.) I'm hoping to migrate from WinXP to OpenSUSE 100% once I'm confident enough. this list have one only great problem: it's very busy. If this don't bother you, you can ask whatever thing you need, even very basic. if you prefere forums (like in PHPBB), you may find many with google in your main language jdd -- http://www.dodin.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Where to find Linux header files development package ?
Joe Sloan wrote: Benji Weber wrote: On 02/12/2007, Hans Lombard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trying to install the sk98lin driver for a Marvell 88E8001 Gigabit Ethernet controller, I run into an error message saying Kernel header not found. Please install the linux header files development package. Does this card not work with the sky2 driver (included) I'm not sure marvell's sk98lin even compiles on new kernels. Yes, that struck me as odd too. My machine came with a similar card, a Marvell 88E8053 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller, and everything just worked out of the box. It is using the sky2 driver. Joe When I first noticed the problem, a google search found evidence of others having the same problem - for example, see http://kerneltrap.org/node/7135 Subsequently, I found documentation on Marvell's website explaining how to install the sk98lin driver. I have tried 2 different approaches explained in their documentation but have not been successful thus far. Hans -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Starting apps automatically in console session - SOLVED
Mandag 03 december 2007 09:41 skrev Pete Connolly: On Monday 03 December 2007 08:34:52 Verner Kjærsgaard wrote: God morning, - how would one be able to detect if the script is being started outside of KDE? Can anyone come up with a short hint ? - thank you! Hi Verner Maybe your script could check with env? Using konsole I get [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ env | grep KDE KDE_MULTIHEAD=false KDE_NO_IPV6=1 KDE_FULL_SESSION=true KDE_SESSION_UID=1000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ In a text console, nothing shows up. Cheers Pete - what can one say? - thank you! -- - Med venlig hilsen/Best regards Verner Kjærsgaard Novell Certified Linux Professional 10035701 www.os-academy.dk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Simpler forum for OpenSUSE?
On Monday 03 December 2007 03:47, Tony D'Souza wrote: Hi All: This mailing-list is pitched too high for me. Please point me to any resource for OpenSUSE 10.3 which is simpler to understand. (I do have elementary knowledge of UNIX.) I'm hoping to migrate from WinXP to OpenSUSE 100% once I'm confident enough. Thanks AE Souza You are well ahead of me, if you already have a Unix background. I don't think you are going to find a better forum than what's here. Sometimes I'm snowed by what comes back, and there are some (most) scripts that blow me away, but this is a good place to find help. It would help if you have a recent SuSE Administration Guide. I'm not sure if the latest versions come with manuals. The last one I have is for 9.2. Unless you want to work in the console the various Linux manuals that tell you how to use man pages, and so on, are probably not going to be helpful, altho the Linux Bible does have some useful stuff in it. If you are going to use SuSE, you need some kind of info for YAST, etc., so I hope there are modern manuals. I have not been overwhelmed by the reports on this group for the 10.x series of SuSE, altho some seem to have had good results. I am sticking to an earlier version for the time being. Good luck. --doug Blessed are the peacemakers ... for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M. Greeley -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Reset settings for - Open With.. Remember application association..
williamkow wrote: I have a folder which contain all my MP3 songs/files, then I right-click the folder, and chosse open with, and select Amarok, and I tick Remember Application Association.., so that i can play MP3 songs in that folder. after that, whenever I openany other folder, Amarok will be opened, How to fix it ? go to kde control center, and find file association (the exact position and name may depend of your version) the problem is oftent than there are linked extensions. mp3 may be (just as an example) linked to mpeg, I had the problem for jpg and jpeg. You have then two tags where you can find applications to be launched I always find this setup confusing, last time I asked an html file to be openned by gvim, and after that it used this news setup by default. No easy to surf the net :-)) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Reset settings for - Open With.. Remember application association..
I have a folder which contain all my MP3 songs/files, then I right-click the folder, and chosse open with, and select Amarok, and I tick Remember Application Association.., so that i can play MP3 songs in that folder. after that, whenever I openany other folder, Amarok will be opened, How to fix it ? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Reset settings for - Open With.. Remember application association..
hello! Am Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:44:33 +0800 schrieb williamkow [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have a folder which contain all my MP3 songs/files, then I right-click the folder, and chosse open with, and select Amarok, and I tick Remember Application Association.., you just told your desktop envirmonment to always open folders with amarok instead of a file manager. in most desktop environments (you do not mention which one you use...) this setting does not refer to _this one folder_ but to _folders in general_. after that, whenever I openany other folder, Amarok will be opened, How to fix it ? this is exactly what you configured ;) to fix it: right-click a folder, and chosse open with, and select FILE_MANAGER, and I tick Remember Application Association.., and to play mp3s just start amarok from the menu... /jonas -- // Jonas de Buhr // IVV5 Universitaet Muenster -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Simpler forum for OpenSUSE?
On 12/03/2007 Tony D'Souza wrote: Hi All: This mailing-list is pitched too high for me. Please point me to any resource for OpenSUSE 10.3 which is simpler to understand. (I do have elementary knowledge of UNIX.) I'm hoping to migrate from WinXP to OpenSUSE 100% once I'm confident enough. Thanks AE Souza I know what your talking about. In my case I do a LOT of Delete key work. If something is way ahead of you or not useful just delete it and go on. I promise everything comes back around so you will get the same thing when your ready for it. By hanging out in the sidelines for a couple years I have learned a lot, so stick around. It would be nice though if fresh newbies could have a list to get answers for the simple stuff without wading through all the high end stuff. And whatever you do, DON'T top post. Don't ask why, just take my word for it. You don't want to do that. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Reset settings for - Open With.. Remember application association..
williamkow wrote: I have a folder which contain all my MP3 songs/files, then I right-click the folder, and chosse open with, and select Amarok, and I tick Remember Application Association.., so that i can play MP3 songs in that folder. after that, whenever I openany other folder, Amarok will be opened, How to fix it ? Well yeah that's because you set the file association to the DIRECTORY type, instead of .mp3 File associations are based on the output of the utility called file (to see what i mean, run file /home file /home/.cshrc file /bin/ls What did you expect a file TYPE association to do? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] /sys virtual file system
Jerry Feldman wrote: I'm updating a Linux presentation, and I'm looking for a good description of /sys. I already have a good piece on the /proc pseudo file system,, but not on /sys. I would start out by running the following command: $ tree -pfi /sys ~/systree Most of /sys is completely obvious -- remember, every computing environment is a MAN-MADE environment, and thus, naming conventions and information conform to some sort of naming convention or another. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Reset settings for - Open With.. Remember application association..
Jonas de Buhr wrote: hello! Am Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:44:33 +0800 schrieb williamkow [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have a folder which contain all my MP3 songs/files, then I right-click the folder, and chosse open with, and select Amarok, and I tick Remember Application Association.., you just told your desktop envirmonment to always open folders with amarok instead of a file manager. in most desktop environments (you do not mention which one you use...) this setting does not refer to _this one folder_ but to _folders in general_. after that, whenever I openany other folder, Amarok will be opened, How to fix it ? this is exactly what you configured ;) to fix it: right-click a folder, and chosse open with, and select FILE_MANAGER, and I tick Remember Application Association.., and to play mp3s just start amarok from the menu... Yet another reason why file associations are evil... the whole concept makes people braindead. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] USB floppy disk
Art Fore wrote: I have a MITSUMI USB FDD 061M but when I plug it in, I do not get anything. If you start up konqueror, and click on storage media what do you get? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Reset settings for - Open With.. Remember application association..
http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/index.php?showtopic=63377 In the File Manager (Konqueror), I have a folder which contain all my MP3 songs/files, then I right-click that folder, and chosse open with, and select Amarok, and I tick Remember Application Association.., so that i can play all the MP3 songs with Amarok, inside that folder. But, starting now on, whenever I click any icon (other folder), Amarok will be automatically opened, But actually I click the other icon (folder) just because I want see the contain in that folder, and not run Amarok. I have checked the setting in KDE Control Center (Personal Settings/Configure Desktop) KDE Components File Association, but i can find setting that can reset the problem. Please help, thank you. _ Jonas de Buhr wrote: hello! Am Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:44:33 +0800 schrieb williamkow [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have a folder which contain all my MP3 songs/files, then I right-click the folder, and chosse open with, and select Amarok, and I tick Remember Application Association.., you just told your desktop envirmonment to always open folders with amarok instead of a file manager. in most desktop environments (you do not mention which one you use...) this setting does not refer to _this one folder_ but to _folders in general_. after that, whenever I openany other folder, Amarok will be opened, How to fix it ? this is exactly what you configured ;) to fix it: right-click a folder, and chosse open with, and select FILE_MANAGER, and I tick Remember Application Association.., and to play mp3s just start amarok from the menu... /jonas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Toshiba Sattelite Laptop (p105) Wireless Connection set up for Suse
I have a new laptop, Toshiba Sattelite, P105, P105 isn't a model number. You have a P105-X, what is X? For example, I'm using a P105-S6207. Came with Vista, and I installed Suse 10. SuSE 10? Or an openSUSE version? Which one? -- Adam Tauno Williams, Network Systems Administrator Consultant - http://www.whitemiceconsulting.com Developer - http://www.opengroupware.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Toshiba Sattelite Laptop (p105) Wireless Connection set up for Suse
10:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02) Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Unknown device 135b Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 185 Memory at f400 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Capabilities: [c8] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [d0] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+ Queue=0/0 Enable- Capabilities: [e0] Express Legacy Endpoint IRQ 0 There are two drivers installed for this card (and that is specifically mentioned in the release notes that were displayed when you installed). I had the same problem with my P105-S6207. I switched to the other driver using the YaST GUI and then everything worked. This assumes we are talking about openSUSE 10.3. -- Adam Tauno Williams, Network Systems Administrator Consultant - http://www.whitemiceconsulting.com Developer - http://www.opengroupware.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] USB floppy disk
On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 00:34 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote: Art Fore wrote: I have a MITSUMI USB FDD 061M but when I plug it in, I do not get anything. If you start up konqueror, and click on storage media what do you get? Just got home and checked it with my Suse 10.3 X86-64. Works fine there. Konqueror opens and asks what you want to do. Click OK to open in new window, in a couple of seconds th files are there. I am leaving for Hong Kong and Shanghai tomorrow morning, so won't be able to check what you ask on the 10.2 system until I get back (It is as work) next week. Art -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] /sys virtual file system
On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 19:59:45 -0800 Greg KH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 07:44:59PM -0500, Jerry Feldman wrote: I'm updating a Linux presentation, and I'm looking for a good description of /sys. I already have a good piece on the /proc pseudo file system,, but not on /sys. What specifically do you want to know about /sys? It's a virtual filesystem, a portion of which exports the internal relationship between all real and virtual devices that the kernel knows about. It contains one value per file, in text for, with the exception of a very few binary files that are pass-through directly to to the raw hardware. It also contains mount points for debugfs (at /sys/kernel/debug), and securityfs (/sys/kerenel/debug). Does that help out? If you have specific questions, feel free to ask. I'd be interested to see what you have for /proc as well, because over time, it has been migrating to a process things only information. All device and other system-wide information things have been moving to /sys. Thanks. That answers my question. -- Jerry Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] Simpler forum for OpenSUSE?
Doug McGarrett wrote: On Monday 03 December 2007 03:47, Tony D'Souza wrote: Hi All: This mailing-list is pitched too high for me. Please point me to any resource for OpenSUSE 10.3 which is simpler to understand. (I do have elementary knowledge of UNIX.) I'm hoping to migrate from WinXP to OpenSUSE 100% once I'm confident enough. You are well ahead of me, if you already have a Unix background. I don't think you are going to find a better forum than what's here. Sometimes I'm snowed by what comes back, and there are some (most) scripts that blow me away, but this is a good place to find help. It would help if you have a recent SuSE Administration Guide. I'm not sure if the latest versions come with manuals. The last one I have is for 9.2. Unless you want to work in the console the various Linux manuals that tell you how to use man pages, and so on, are probably not going to be helpful, altho the Linux Bible does have some useful stuff in it. If you are going to use SuSE, you need some kind of info for YAST, etc., so I hope there are modern manuals. I can just share 18-24 months experience with Linux in general, and with SuSE and now OpenSUSE. I started some years ago with the first Slackware CD's; it was so complicated that I shelved it then. In 2005 I started again, with SuSE 8.x, and it was achievable with a very heavy learning curve for a W2K and previous attempts of operating systems by Redmnd. I have never looked back. The biggest help were these Mailing Lists. They may look foreboding at first, if you only know the MickSoft world, like it was for me who actually even got a MCP in1997. Once the OSS world and Unix type of OS's are understood, there is no alternative. A good start are the PDF books that come with the DVD (OpenSUSE). If you are prepared to buy the Novell boxed version - Novell SUSE Enterprise Desktop or SLED (same basis as OpenSUSE) - you get the printed books. For the beginner there used to be a users manual, and for the admin there was an administration manual as well. I read them, from first installation to presently working with cluster servers. The *O'Reilly *SuSE Administration Guide is the next step. You could also look at the Linux Bible for various distros. HTH :-) Al -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Starting apps automatically in console session - SOLVED
Hi all, Thanks for the feedback, especially Randall's hints for generalization. Also, I've added already a few lines of code to check if dcop is installed and executable. Verner Kjærsgaard wrote: Søndag 02 december 2007 16:38 skrev Randall R Schulz: Assuming an invocation of this script is to be placed in $HOME/.bash_profile, you might want to gracefully handle the case where the shell is running outside of KDE. That includes on virtual consoles, when connecting remotely via ssh and possible when using screen. I don't know if Gnome uses dcop or something else, so it might fail there and under different desktops and window managers as well. In short, be prepared for dcop to fail and do nothing (probably silently) in that case. Rgds, Stephan. Randall Schulz God morning, - how would one be able to detect if the script is being started outside of KDE? Can anyone come up with a short hint ? - thank you! I've made sure that the script is started via the $HOME/.kde/Autostart folder, not in $HOME/.bash_profile or another shell rc file. This makes sure that it is launched only in KDE and that it is launched only once, not with every new shell. Regards, Stephan. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] /sys virtual file system
On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 07:32:21AM -0500, Jerry Feldman wrote: On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 19:59:45 -0800 Greg KH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 07:44:59PM -0500, Jerry Feldman wrote: I'm updating a Linux presentation, and I'm looking for a good description of /sys. I already have a good piece on the /proc pseudo file system,, but not on /sys. What specifically do you want to know about /sys? It's a virtual filesystem, a portion of which exports the internal relationship between all real and virtual devices that the kernel knows about. It contains one value per file, in text for, with the exception of a very few binary files that are pass-through directly to to the raw hardware. It also contains mount points for debugfs (at /sys/kernel/debug), and securityfs (/sys/kerenel/debug). Does that help out? If you have specific questions, feel free to ask. I'd be interested to see what you have for /proc as well, because over time, it has been migrating to a process things only information. All device and other system-wide information things have been moving to /sys. Thanks. That answers my question. But it didn't answer mine to you :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Starting apps automatically in console session - SOLVED
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Stephan Hegel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-03-07 08:36]: [...] I've made sure that the script is started via the $HOME/.kde/Autostart folder, not in $HOME/.bash_profile or another shell rc file. This makes sure that it is launched only in KDE and that it is launched only once, not with every new shell. AND, you *are* going to publish the script ? tks, - -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHVAgnClSjbQz1U5oRApqUAKCjpdYmmc7m89FNp13rzsPmuSrENACeKweG oubFzZ1cav9gV8h92Uy/VqI= =CcZs -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Reset settings for - Open With.. Remember application association..
On Monday 03 December 2007 12:16, williamkow wrote: http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/index.php?showtopic=63377 In the File Manager (Konqueror), I have a folder which contain all my MP3 songs/files, then I right-click that folder, and chosse open with, and select Amarok, and I tick Remember Application Association.., so that i can play all the MP3 songs with Amarok, inside that folder. But, starting now on, whenever I click any icon (other folder), Amarok will be automatically opened, But actually I click the other icon (folder) just because I want see the contain in that folder, and not run Amarok. I have checked the setting in KDE Control Center (Personal Settings/Configure Desktop) KDE Components File Association, but i can find setting that can reset the problem. Please help, thank you. _ What youdid wrong was to mark the folder, and not one mp3 file. You associated the folder with amarok, not the mp3's. Do the same thing again, rightclick on the folder and choose open with konqueror and make it remember that. and all ought to be well in town again... -- /Rikard - email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] web : http://www.rikjoh.com mob:: +46 (0)763 19 76 25 Public PGP fingerprint 15 28 DF 78 67 98 B2 16 1F D3 FD C5 59 D4 B6 78 46 1C EE 56 pgpduoBAorYMO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] How to disable HALD at instalation SuSE 10.x
On Wednesday 28 November 2007 18:32, Rikard Johnels wrote: On Wednesday 28 November 2007 09:33, Per Jessen wrote: Rikard Johnels wrote: Hi all. I have an older Preh Flat POS 2000 i want to run a minimal SuSE on. Its basically a small AMD based thing with onboard USB/NIC/Graphics/lots of serial ports among a few other goodies. The problem is: I cant boot the instalation system on it. As soon as the thing hits hald, it freezes. I can't tell you how to disable hald, but have you tried running e.g. Knoppix? Perhaps to get a look at the hardware config - it might give you a hint as to what is going wrong. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- http://www.spamchek.com/ - your spam is our business. Same there. As soon as it hits hald, it freezes. I could get a knoppix nodetect to start, but thats way to basic. I can get a lspci under that, but it doesnt help me installing No one else with any hints? -- /Rikard - email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] web : http://www.rikjoh.com mob:: +46 (0)763 19 76 25 Public PGP fingerprint 15 28 DF 78 67 98 B2 16 1F D3 FD C5 59 D4 B6 78 46 1C EE 56 pgph9CZn4mDKm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] in 10.2 two two masters slaves. Now in 10.3 one is missing
On Sunday 02 December 2007 23:38:50 Patrick Shanahan wrote: find the former /dev/hdc ?? Where does it hide on a working fully updated 10.3 system? with a mountable cd/dvd inserted open konqueror to sysinfo:/ with a mountable cd/dvd inserted from cl: ls -la /media/ from cl: /usr/sbin/hdwinfo --cdrom Dear Patrick. Still looking for my cdrom. If I make a fresh reboot, with or without the 10.3 DVD in the DVD drive I get following info when I run /usr/sbin/hwinfo | grep cdrom WARNING: Error inserting cdrom (/lib/modules/2.6.22.12-0.1-default/kernel/drivers/cdrom/cdrom.ko): Operation not permitted WARNING: Error inserting cdrom (/lib/modules/2.6.22.12-0.1-default/kernel/drivers/cdrom/cdrom.ko): Operation not permitted block.3: cdrom int.2: cdrom I deleted some of the text which was very general and did not contain cdrom info. As root I get # /usr/sbin/hwinfo | grep cdrom ide-cdrom: module = ide_cd block.3: cdrom - /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/info - - /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/info end - int.2: cdrom ide-cdrom: module = ide_cd cdrom 37020 2 sr_mod,ide_cd, Live 0xd941a000 The following info is also available: lsmod |grep cdrom cdrom 37020 2 sr_mod,ide_cd ls -la /media/ total 8 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-12-03 19:47 . drwxr-xr-x 27 root root 4096 2007-12-02 21:31 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root0 2007-12-03 19:47 .hal-mtab /usr/sbin/hdwinfo --cdrom bash: /usr/sbin/hdwinfo: No such file or directory The last cl commnd run as user and as su. Konqueror with sysinfo:/ gave a nice overview of my system but did not show any cdrom. No idea how to get my cdrom working. There is some kind of info about the cdrom but I cannot seem to make use of ( ide-cdrom: module = ide_cd cdrom 37020 2 sr_mod,ide_cd, Live 0xd941a000) I know the drive exists but how to activate it, no idea. Do you see some solutions apart from going back to 10.2 ? ;( -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] /sys virtual file system
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 05:12:13 -0800 Greg KH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 07:32:21AM -0500, Jerry Feldman wrote: On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 19:59:45 -0800 Greg KH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 07:44:59PM -0500, Jerry Feldman wrote: I'm updating a Linux presentation, and I'm looking for a good description of /sys. I already have a good piece on the /proc pseudo file system,, but not on /sys. What specifically do you want to know about /sys? It's a virtual filesystem, a portion of which exports the internal relationship between all real and virtual devices that the kernel knows about. It contains one value per file, in text for, with the exception of a very few binary files that are pass-through directly to to the raw hardware. It also contains mount points for debugfs (at /sys/kernel/debug), and securityfs (/sys/kerenel/debug). Does that help out? If you have specific questions, feel free to ask. I'd be interested to see what you have for /proc as well, because over time, it has been migrating to a process things only information. All device and other system-wide information things have been moving to /sys. Thanks. That answers my question. But it didn't answer mine to you :) I currently only have a 1-liner in the presentation. But, I was planning on showing the attendees how to view things like /proc/cpuinfo and /proc/meminfo. My audience consists of a few PHD/actuaries who just need to be able to use Unix and Linux to run various products. The do, however, have VMWare Workstation installed on their systems with a Linux VM guest. I'm not sure if the guest is Ubuntu or RHEL 4. They all have logins to various corporate Linux and Solaris systems. -- Jerry Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] The Bar
On Sunday 2 December 2007 20:54:17 Randall R Schulz wrote: On Sunday 02 December 2007 12:38, Keller, Damon A SPC MIL USA wrote: Does anyone know why the entire menu, tool bar and system tray goes away after running updates? It certainly doesn't, not in general and not when things are working correctly. I've never seen that symptom. Sorry, Randall, it does - this has happened on at least two 10.2 machines of mine, but I haven't tracked down which update was responsible yet. I have noticed, though, that moving the .kde folder out of the way so that a new one is created seems to get kicker working normally again. To the OP, the easiest way to deal with this (without moving your .kde folder, which means re-entering all your user data) is to go to ~/.kde/Autostart, and run: ln -s /opt/kde3/bin/kicker kicker That will mean that kicker gets started independently each time the desktop launches. -- Pob hwyl / Best wishes Kevin Donnelly blog.thinkopen.co.uk - blog www.klebran.org.uk - Gwirydd gramadeg rhydd i'r Gymraeg www.eurfa.org.uk - Geiriadur rhydd i'r Gymraeg www.rhedadur.org.uk - Rhedeg berfau Cymraeg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] 10.3 YaST
Since there's lots of discussion about YaST here's some observations on my first attempt to use 10.3 YaST (the last one I used was 9.3). I'm using gnome: (1) the window titles are bad: (a) they don't include the host name, so I can't tell which window belongs to which machine (b) they don't all include the module name. e.g. the LVM window has the unilluminating title 'YaST'. Not very useful when you have a bunch of windows iconified and are trying to find this particular one. (2) MTA configuration starts with a screen offering a choice of standard or advanced. The Help does not describe this choice! I tried standard, which didn't appear to offer what I needed. I tried advanced, which started by insisting on LDAP, which I don't want. So I don't even get to look at it's help. So I'll be using the command-line tools. (3) The Community Repositories module should be offered as an alternative possibility when you click on Software Repositories, because the latter is what people migrating from previous versions will expect to use. Links to web-pages should also be included - e.g. http://opensuse-community.org/Repositories/10.3 and http://en.opensuse.org/Package_Repositories with fallbacks to local copies if not online. (4) The Software Management module is appalling. Poor UI design, even worse help. Two trees that have to be folded and unfolded individually! Who thought that could possibly be more useful than a checkbox? Extremely slow loading of the package list, repeated each time I do a search. Dreadful! What I fail to understand is why something so obviously worse than previous versions is ever released? And why when I serached for 'webmin' did it return 'fail2ban' (5) The Online Update module just presents an empty window. Stunning stuff! Which won't even go away when I press the window close decoration. But xkill rode in to the rescue. I just applied the patch to yast2 that Carlos recommended and now I'm happy with software management again (i.e. I got the qt version :) Cheers, Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Simpler forum for OpenSUSE?
On Dec 3, 2007 3:47 AM, Tony D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All: This mailing-list is pitched too high for me. Please point me to any resource for OpenSUSE 10.3 which is simpler to understand. (I do have elementary knowledge of UNIX.) I'm hoping to migrate from WinXP to OpenSUSE 100% once I'm confident enough. Tony, I've been on here for years and could likely understand most of the discussion. I typically delete 90% of the e-mail after just reading the subject line. It is just overwhelming to try and read it all. As to switching to a Linux desktop: I'm very experienced with Linux from the command-line, but a relative newbie with the Linux GUI. I made the switch to a Linux GUI on my office workstation a couple months ago. I knew I needed a XP crutch to fall back on for some of my business needs. So I installed (64-bit) SUSE 10.3 with a (32-bit) vmware server (free) setup to allow me to run the few programs I need from XP. The vmware instance uses about 512MB of RAM all the time, and it is not the fastest thing in the world. An older machine may have trouble running this setup, but I have a 9 month old $500 Dell w/1GB of RAM and it is doing fine. (XP can be a little slow at times). It can be a little hard to setup the vmware environment, but not too terrible. I only get into XP a few times a week, but it is nice to have when timelines are short and Linux is not setup for the feature you need yet. And by going that way you can continue to run XP apps as long as you need to as you transition to Linux. FYI: You will still need an XP license and licenses for any commercial XP software you install. If you want to give that a shot, then start a new thread and put something like newbie in the subject Also there is wiki entry about this, but I think it is a little out of date. Greg -- Greg Freemyer Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer First 99 Days Litigation White Paper - http://www.norcrossgroup.com/forms/whitepapers/99%20Days%20whitepaper.pdf The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] [OT] British time
On Monday 03 December 2007, Anders Johansson wrote: On Monday 03 December 2007 03:32:22 Kai Ponte wrote: On Sunday 02 December 2007 18:21, Tony Alfrey wrote: Not sure about British English, but in math, half(eight) would equal four. *ducking* In the UK, half eight = 8:30 IOTW: Two and a half hours before closing time. Outdated joke. Since 2005, people in England are free to get hammered 24 hours a day -- Madness takes its toll yea great:-( .. Try living opposite a darn pub with extended opening hours it's a real darling taxi drivers that cant be bothered to got off there fat ar**s just sit outside with hand on horn button till there punter hears them , Cars get trashed by drunken drug infested morons . I have even seen one antisocial life form climb on the roof of a car and having a dump on the windscreengee thanks pal . Close all pubs at 21:30 hours full stop . -- SuSE Linux 10.3-Alpha3. (Linux is like a wigwam - no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside.) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Simpler forum for OpenSUSE?
On Monday 03 December 2007 00:47, Tony D'Souza wrote: Hi All: This mailing-list is pitched too high for me. Please point me to any resource for OpenSUSE 10.3 which is simpler to understand. (I do have elementary knowledge of UNIX.) I'm hoping to migrate from WinXP to OpenSUSE 100% once I'm confident enough. heck, if a newbie like me can understand this forum, anyone can! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Simpler forum for OpenSUSE?
Tony D'Souza wrote: Hi All: This mailing-list is pitched too high for me. Please point me to any resource for OpenSUSE 10.3 which is simpler to understand. (I do have elementary knowledge of UNIX.) I'm hoping to migrate from WinXP to OpenSUSE 100% once I'm confident enough. Thanks AE Souza Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Hi, Tony; Looks like everyone here is giving you pretty good advice. I would like to add, that if you don't understand something on the list, and would like to, there is usually someone willing to help if you just ask. If an explanation is over you head, just say so, and a simpler explanation will usually be offered. -ED- P.S. Sorry, didn't mean to send that direct. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] OpenSUSE 10.3 benchmarking revisited
Hi! Some of you may recall Ian Smith's post about low benchmark scores for openSuse 10.3 [1]. Now that the Suse team has fixed one of the main issues, it is time to benchmark again. This time, openSuse 10.3 scores _much_ better than the last time. Further investigation of the bad performance revealed that the main cause for the extremely low performance was very high overhead for system calls (syscalls), so I filed bug #333739. Tony Jones had a look at it, fixing both kernel and auditd. The bug is closed now, new packages were released a while ago. Another source of bad benchmark results is grep. The version of grep included in Suse 10.3 is awfully slow when processing UTF-8 data, see bug #308698 [3]. On my system, grep on Suse 10.3 is ~30 times slower than on 10.0. Exact results may vary depending on setup, but it is slooow. Grep was also a source of inconsistent benchmark results with unixbench 5.1, because that version of unixbench did not set the LANG environment variable consistently. Unixbench 5.1.1 fixes that. I decided to run another benchmark, comparing openSuse 10.3 with new kernel+auditd and a fast grep against one with the old kernel+auditd and the default grep (as originally benchmarked by Ian Smith). As a fast grep, I simply took the rpm for Suse 10.2. As a reference, I have included results for Suse Linux 10.0. All tests were run in runlevel 1 with unixbench 5.1.1 (identical unixbench binaries compiled under Suse 10.0) on a Pentium M 1.3Ghz. 10.3 new 10.3 old10.0 == == Dhrystone247 247 242 Whetstone177 177 177 Execl642 603 714 File Copy 1024 560 484 538 File Copy 256432 366 454 File Copy 4096 809 742 597 Pipe Throughput 374 295 479 Context Switch 473 394 569 Process Creat821 7931032 Shell Scripts1 524 358 556 Shell Scripts8 522 349 537 System Call 772 336 882 -- -- -- Index Score: 485 393 513 The current version of openSuse 10.3 easily outscores the GM version. The modified version of grep is responsible for higher scores in the shell script tests since they use grep as one of their commands. It should not affect the other test results at all. Maybe Suse should consider to downgrade grep if the performance problems cannot be resolved, because the new grep is slow to a point where it is simply unusable. Fixes in kernel+auditd significantly helped all tests that interact a lot with the kernel (basically all but the first two). Syscall performance is measured directly in the last test, where the score has more than doubled! However, comparing results to 10.0 shows that overall, the performance of the base system is still not as good as it could be, at least in this benchmark. Suse 10.0 still scores higher in most areas. Since the syscall test scores are ~12% lower than in 10.0, it seems logical that the slowdown is due to the kernel. It would be interesting to see if the vanilla kernel suffers from the same slowdown or if this is specific to Suse. Regards nordi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] The Bar
On Monday 03 December 2007, Kevin Donnelly wrote: Sorry, Randall, it does - this has happened on at least two 10.2 machines of mine, but I haven't tracked down which update was responsible yet. I have noticed, though, that moving the .kde folder out of the way so that a new one is created seems to get kicker working normally again. To the OP, the easiest way to deal with this (without moving your .kde folder, which means re-entering all your user data) is to go to ~/.kde/Autostart, and run: ln -s /opt/kde3/bin/kicker kicker That will mean that kicker gets started independently each time the desktop launches. -- This once happened on my opensuse 10.2 machine. It was caused by a .desktop file in the .kde directory; if I remember correctly it was kcmkicker.desktop and contained only 2 lines without an Exec line, which caused kicker not to launch when logging in. I hope this helps. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Simpler forum for OpenSUSE?
Ed McCanless wrote: Tony D'Souza wrote: Hi All: This mailing-list is pitched too high for me. Please point me to any resource for OpenSUSE 10.3 which is simpler to understand. (I do have elementary knowledge of UNIX.) I'm hoping to migrate from WinXP to OpenSUSE 100% once I'm confident enough. Thanks AE Souza Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Hi, Tony; Looks like everyone here is giving you pretty good advice. I would like to add, that if you don't understand something on the list, and would like to, there is usually someone willing to help if you just ask. If an explanation is over you head, just say so, and a simpler explanation will usually be offered. -ED- P.S. Sorry, didn't mean to send that direct. Let me add to Ed's comments, be polite. Keep in mind that most of the people on this list are here voluntarily and on their own time. A couple of negative comments by a newbie can get that newbie ignored. On the other hand, most are willing to help as long as they feel appreciated. I've had some of my most significant learning experiences right here on this list. Hang around and you will shortly find yourself giving advice instead of asking for it. Don Henson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Who's is charge of user login setup? KDE or Yast
I decided to set up a new user and have my computer autologin this new user. Brought up YaST (am using OpenSuSE 10.3/KDE) - Security and Users - User Management and set up my new user. Then trotted down into Expert Settings - Login Settings and checked autologin, passwordless logins, and selected my new user from the list to auto login. Rebooted and groan nada no such luck! My computer booted up the same ol same ol way asking me to select a user to login with a password... So hunted around, poked Google, and came up with another login manager buried in the KDE's Personal Settings - System Administration - Login Manager - Convenience where I found yet another auto login setup. So jumped through the hoops, and rebooted. Wowla! Autologin worked... So how come YaST failed to set this up? Oversight? Bug? Left hand developer didn't know what the Right hand developer was doing? Turf war? Marc... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] adding links in /etc/init.d/rc*.d/
On Nov 29, 2007, at 9:50 PM, Philipp Thomas wrote: Manually created symlinks will be removed the next time insserv gets run! Philipp Is there anyway to circumvent this behaviour? I recently discovered that when a machine gets rebooted its missing the first NFS mount point because the nfs client is booting in parallel to nscd which is causing a race condition the always misses the first mount point ( I can't statically define IP in /etc/hosts because it points to a dynamic nameserver which returns one of many IPs to mount from ). Moving the nfs services to the back of the init process in runlevels 3 5 and turning of the parallel boot flag in /etc/sysconfig/boot seems to have done the trick, but insserv keeps messing up my linking and in turn I have a bunch of people showing up at my door unable to login (home directories are the first mount point in the fstab). Cheers Todd Smith Systems Administrator - Soho VFX - Visual Effects Studio 99 Atlantic Avenue, Suite 303 Toronto, Ontario, M6K 3J8 (416) 516-7863 http://www.sohovfx.com - -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Any news on SiS SATA problem
Each kernel update gets me excited as I hope they will have solved the problem of openSUSE 10.3 being unable to see SATA hard-drives with certain SATA chipsets (SiS being one of them). I have just upgraded to 2.6.22.13-0.3-default, but my second (SATA) drive is still unusable :( Fortunately, my other drive is EIDE. Does anyone know when a patched kernel will be available? -- Bob openSUSE 10.3, Kernel 2.6.22.13-0.3-default, KDE 3.5.7 r72 Intel Celeron 2.53GB, 2GB DDR RAM, nVidia GeForce 7600GS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: nviddia 3D support potential bug
On Nov 30, 2007, at 12:27 PM, Robert Lewis wrote: 3D Acceleration Not Supported - SaX2 cannot offer activation of the 3D subsystem because your graphics card/driver doesn't support 3D. However, when I try using 3D programs they are all working properly and even glxgears seems be doing quite well. I haven't run glxinfo as yet. Humm, I just found something else that can add top this. This is a known issue, if you did install the driver correctly then YAST may not report back that you have 3d acceleration. Something to do with proprietary drivers interacting with open source software. As I said with the drivers installed correctly you should have 3d acceleration no problem. The card says GF 6600 256MB DDR2 TV DVI So why is YaST seeing it as a 6500 512M ? Maybe I shouldn't worry since it is working. Perhaps you can outline for me the method in which you installed the driver and what you have done since then. Its hard to troubleshoot without specifics. This may be beyond the scope of this list so you may want to respond to me personally. Cheers Todd Smith Systems Administrator - Soho VFX - Visual Effects Studio 99 Atlantic Avenue, Suite 303 Toronto, Ontario, M6K 3J8 (416) 516-7863 http://www.sohovfx.com - -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] NVidia + openSUSE + glxgears oddity
I'm running the most recent openSUSE 10.3 kernel on a Dell Latitude 830 laptop using an NVidia Quadro 140M graphics chip with 512M of video RAM. I also have the latest version I can find of the NVidia native driver installed (100.14.23) and am using Xorg 7.2 as the X Server with Compiz-Fusion running. This screen configuration actually seems to work quite well and I can use all the neat Compiz hacks like the rotating 3D-cube, wobbly windows, etc. What's bugging me is that when I run glxgears to check out the actual frames-per-second horsepower of the NVidia card, which should be pretty damn speedy, especially with 512M of devoted RAM, I only see FPS rates of about 60. This seems really odd to me, even though for all intents and purposes it doesn't effect my work in any significant way since the video responsiveness is perfectly acceptable for my needs. Of course, I'm not running any heavy-duty, high-res 3D games either. Also, I've noticed when I dual-boot into Fedora Core 7 I can get apparent FPS rates in the thousands of FPS using glxgears. I'm guessing that something must be different in the two configurations, but there's nothing obvious that I can detect. Same X server, same NVidia driver, etc. Is there anything anyone can think of that I should be looking for to explain this dissimilarity? Perhaps something in the Xorg configuration that I'm using or shouldn't be using? Below is an excerpt of some data from glxinfo showing the configuration. I can provide details of the xorg.conf and any logs that might be of use in clarifying this situation upon request. TIA, --ted direct rendering: Yes server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation server glx version string: 1.4 OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation OpenGL renderer string: Quadro NVS 140M/PCI/SSE2 OpenGL version string: 2.1.1 NVIDIA 100.14.23 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] in 10.2 two two masters slaves. Now in 10.3 one is missing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Constant Brouerius van nidek [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-03-07 09:24]: from cl: /usr/sbin/hdwinfo --cdrom sb /usr/sbin/hdinfo --cdrom Dear Patrick. Still looking for my cdrom. If I make a fresh reboot, with or without the 10.3 DVD in the DVD drive I get following info when I run /usr/sbin/hwinfo | grep cdrom DO: /usr/sbin/hdinfo --cdrom no grep and no piping quote results here. - -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHVFjOClSjbQz1U5oRAjmbAKCeeJuNjW6574+KnbDPMufUFAjXiwCeOReK WSQyD2bIuYWeA32qpM3uOx4= =MHEj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Any news on SiS SATA problem
On Dec 3, 2007 2:00 PM, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Each kernel update gets me excited as I hope they will have solved the problem of openSUSE 10.3 being unable to see SATA hard-drives with certain SATA chipsets (SiS being one of them). I have just upgraded to 2.6.22.13-0.3-default, but my second (SATA) drive is still unusable :( Fortunately, my other drive is EIDE. Does anyone know when a patched kernel will be available? -- Bob Bob, I think in general that SIS Sata controllers are supported. See http://linux-ata.org/features.html which is for the vanilla kernel and is about 6 or 9 months old I think. Did you file a bugzilla with Novell and try to get it resolved? Greg -- Greg Freemyer Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer First 99 Days Litigation White Paper - http://www.norcrossgroup.com/forms/whitepapers/99%20Days%20whitepaper.pdf The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Where to find Linux header files development package ?
Carlos E. R. wrote: The Sunday 2007-12-02 at 06:52 -0600, Rajko M. wrote: Carlos: make mrproper is valid target if you want to remove all traces of previous compilation(s) and start from scratch, if it breaks something it is better to know at that stage than later when kernel doesn't work properly. It is a valid target when you get the sources elsewhere, add bits and ends, etc. No. It's a valid Makefile target for all Linux kernels, including SuSE kernels. It is not needed if you just install the source rpm from suse, which comes already cleaned. It can delete customizations, too: the only time I used it deleted my own config files and notes, and some of suse's files. I had to reinstall the sources. It deletes *anything* it thinks doesn't belong on the kernel. No. It deletes everything that can be reproduced, including a .config, a version.h, and utsrelease.h. That's the purpose of this Makefile target. After running a make mrproper, the source tree is in a clean state. There's no need to reinstall the source, all Linux kernel source is still on disk (however, the kernel source is unconfigured at that point). If you need to clean a previous compilation, use make clean. That's more than enough. No. For instance, configure the kernel source in the source tree. Later on, try to use a build directory. It won't work and the kernel build system will tell you something like this: make -C /kernel/source O=/kernel/build Using /kernel/source as source for kernel /kernel/source is not clean, please run 'make mrproper' in the '/kernel/source' directory. I have been making my own kernels for years and I never use mrproper. SuSE does not recomend it in their own instructions. It's not even mentioned. So what? Many things aren't mentioned in the SuSE documentation, but nevertheless those things can be quite useful. I use make mrproper a lot. Th. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] [OT] British time
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2007-12-03 at 16:26 -, peter nikolic wrote: ... Close all pubs at 21:30 hours full stop . No thanks! Then they will come to Spain on weekend booze non stop parties en masse! :-P - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHVGUdtTMYHG2NR9URAiL+AJ9jvQKMC2cdEVItak4eK5yosraM7gCghhpO NQFDxE6IvJ7SrSoVZlFF9k0= =cF/I -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Where to find Linux header files development package ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2007-12-03 at 19:43 -, Thomas Hertweck wrote: ... No. For instance, configure the kernel source in the source tree. Later on, try to use a build directory. It won't work and the kernel build system will tell you something like this: That's a special case and not a typical use. You are not doing a make alone. I have been making my own kernels for years and I never use mrproper. SuSE does not recomend it in their own instructions. It's not even mentioned. So what? Many things aren't mentioned in the SuSE documentation, but nevertheless those things can be quite useful. I use make mrproper a lot. And I never use it. No need. I was bitten by it once, no more, thanks. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHVGZNtTMYHG2NR9URAg8IAJ9sTcLq3PqjV2alL1vvbmS7y6EwAQCfc7Pf DzveP1Go/EFMaS/JHdNeEnE= =X9Jc -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] adding links in /etc/init.d/rc*.d/
M. Todd Smith wrote: On Nov 29, 2007, at 9:50 PM, Philipp Thomas wrote: Manually created symlinks will be removed the next time insserv gets run! Philipp Is there anyway to circumvent this behaviour? you may have to test it (it's simple, just write a dummy one), because I used to write such scripts myself and have never it deleted (but may be this is new) (in fact I had to write 'boot.final', that is a script like boot.local, but run at the end of the boot sequence) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] adding links in /etc/init.d/rc*.d/
On Dec 3, 2007, at 1:44 PM, M. Todd Smith wrote: On Nov 29, 2007, at 9:50 PM, Philipp Thomas wrote: Manually created symlinks will be removed the next time insserv gets run! Philipp Is there anyway to circumvent this behaviour? I recently discovered that when a machine gets rebooted its missing the first NFS mount point because the nfs client is booting in parallel to nscd which is causing a race condition the always misses the first mount point ( I can't statically define IP in /etc/hosts because it points to a dynamic nameserver which returns one of many IPs to mount from ). Moving the nfs services to the back of the init process in runlevels 3 5 and turning of the parallel boot flag in /etc/sysconfig/boot seems to have done the trick, but insserv keeps messing up my linking and in turn I have a bunch of people showing up at my door unable to login (home directories are the first mount point in the fstab). To answer my own question, you change the Required-Start option in / etc/init.d/nfsboot and /etc/init.d/nfs to $all, run insserv and make sure the parallel boot of unrelated services is set to 'no'. This will set the symlinks and keep them proper. Cheers Todd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] adding links in /etc/init.d/rc*.d/
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2007-12-03 at 13:44 -0500, M. Todd Smith wrote: Is there anyway to circumvent this behaviour? Of course there is, it is documented, and I explained it in this very thread a few days ago. You just have to read it :-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHVIOQtTMYHG2NR9URAoBQAJ9cMvjAc8NgO8LrzN8oLfI/fXmy3wCeMVPg oFOaHHISZJx4FkuuK7UxGGE= =QS2I -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Giving Up: audio trouble in Opensuse 10.3 ... after login
On Mon, 2007-11-26 at 09:00 +0700, chika wrote: why u don't use KDE instead... :D i think kde is as light as gnome AFAIK... CMIMW no offense btw login as root # su # alsaconf if u can hear the sound thats work. br, tambun On Saturday 24 November 2007 01:16, Gene A. Anderson wrote: I'm a fairly new Linux user who is completely new to Opensuse. I have recently installed the Gnome desktop version of Opensuse 10.3 to an old Compaq Presario desktop computer that also can boot up in Windows 2000. When I login the desktop icon for the volume control has a red X. When I click on it I get the following error message: This volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed or that you don't have a sound card configured. The YaST sound configuration window shows that the ESS1988 Allegro-1 was configured as sound card number 0. It also lists the driver as snd_maestro3. So that seems like the card is being found. Most bizarre to me is that in the login window when my cursor is in the empty field in which to type my user name, I can hit the backspace key and get a healthy beep out of the speakers as if the sound card is correctly configured and ready to work and somehow the login process disrupts that, because after logging in I can get no sound whatsoever out of the speakers. I'm looking for any suggestions and I'm willing to provide any information that would be helpful. Please remember that I am something of a beginner, so please try to keep that in mind when advising me. Thank you. Gene Anderson in Taiwan Hi Gene, I'm betting all works fine if you log in as root? Have you checked your system.log (/var/log/messages) for any resmgr errors? Carl -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Tambun and others: I finally took you advice and installed the KDE version of Opensuse 10.3, but I ended up with the same problems. I can't seem to get any further advice from the mail-list, so I have installed Ubuntu instead. It seems simpler to install, but it seems many details have to be worked out post-installation whereas Opensuse puts most of the configuration details out front for the installer to decide. I'll keep my Opensuse discs and try them later on another machine. Gene -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Where to find Linux header files development package ?
Carlos E. R. wrote: The Monday 2007-12-03 at 19:43 -, Thomas Hertweck wrote: ... No. For instance, configure the kernel source in the source tree. Later on, try to use a build directory. It won't work and the kernel build system will tell you something like this: That's a special case and not a typical use. You are not doing a make alone. It's nothing special. Just dealing with various kernels - with and without build directory - in different situations on a regular basis. I have been making my own kernels for years and I never use mrproper. SuSE does not recomend it in their own instructions. It's not even mentioned. So what? Many things aren't mentioned in the SuSE documentation, but nevertheless those things can be quite useful. I use make mrproper a lot. And I never use it. No need. I was bitten by it once, no more, thanks. Well, it seems as if you had trouble understanding the purpose of make mrproper judging from your comments that you were surprised about the disappearance of .config. If you were dealing with build directories and various kernel trees etc., then you would probably see how useful this Makefile target can be, and you would also know that a reinstallation of the source had not been necessary. Please don't recommend not to use this Makefile target solely based on your own bad experience where you were bitten once - this was obviously your own fault, not knowing what make mrproper is all about at that time. Th. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] adding links in /etc/init.d/rc*.d/
On Dec 3, 2007, at 5:30 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote: Of course there is, it is documented, and I explained it in this very thread a few days ago. You just have to read it :-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. My apologies, I just deleted my archive of suse mail this past week. Nevertheless the proper solution is now all scripted up and ready to be pushed out with some new installs later this evening. Cheers Todd Systems Administrator - Soho VFX - Visual Effects Studio 99 Atlantic Avenue, Suite 303 Toronto, Ontario, M6K 3J8 (416) 516-7863 http://www.sohovfx.com - -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Giving Up: audio trouble in Opensuse 10.3 ... after login
On Mon, 2007-11-26 at 09:00 +0700, chika wrote: why u don't use KDE instead... :D i think kde is as light as gnome AFAIK... CMIMW no offense When I login the desktop icon for the volume control has a red X. When I finally took you advice and installed the KDE version of Opensuse 10.3, but I ended up with the same problems. I can't seem to get any Of course, such a problem has nothing to do with the desktop environment. In general switching desktops doesn't fix anything. I click on it I get the following error message: This volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed or that you don't have a sound card configured. Odd, I think it *always* means the later: you don't have a sound card configured The YaST sound configuration window shows that the ESS1988 Allegro-1 was configured as sound card number 0. It also lists the driver as snd_maestro3. So that seems like the card is being found. But did YaST play the test sound? Most bizarre to me is that in the login window when my cursor is in the empty field in which to type my user name, I can hit the backspace key and get a healthy beep out of the speakers as if the sound card is The system beep is entirely separate from sound card support (on most systems except some laptops). I'm looking for any suggestions and I'm willing to provide any information that would be helpful. Please remember that I am something of a beginner, so please try to keep that in mind when advising me. Did you see any ACPI warnings when you booted? (dmesg | grep -i acpi) btw login as root # su # alsaconf Good advice. -- Adam Tauno Williams, Network Systems Administrator Consultant - http://www.whitemiceconsulting.com Developer - http://www.opengroupware.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Any news on SiS SATA problem
On Monday 03 December 2007 19:43:48 Greg Freemyer wrote: On Dec 3, 2007 2:00 PM, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Each kernel update gets me excited as I hope they will have solved the problem of openSUSE 10.3 being unable to see SATA hard-drives with certain SATA chipsets (SiS being one of them). I have just upgraded to 2.6.22.13-0.3-default, but my second (SATA) drive is still unusable :( Fortunately, my other drive is EIDE. Does anyone know when a patched kernel will be available? -- Bob Bob, I think in general that SIS Sata controllers are supported. See http://linux-ata.org/features.html which is for the vanilla kernel and is about 6 or 9 months old I think. That's an interesting website, which I didn't know about. Did you file a bugzilla with Novell and try to get it resolved? Not me, but see bug 331610 Greg -- Bob openSUSE 10.3, Kernel 2.6.22.13-0.3-default, KDE 3.5.8 Intel Celeron 2.53GB, 2GB DDR RAM, nVidia GeForce 7600GS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] openSuSE 10.3 - Downgrading xorg 7.3 to 7.2
For the list: Upgrading to xorg 7.3 fatally broke compiz on my Toshiba P35 laptop with the ATI mobility radeon 9700 card. After fighting the issue for over a month I decided to try and downgrade xorg. It wasn't as bad as I thought. For the record, here is how I did it safely: In yast remove repositories/xorg73/openSUSE_10.3. Then in software management, search xorg. 7.2 will be listed as available and 7.3 will be listed as installed. Simply select update (downgrade) on all xorg 7.3 packages and the xorg 7.2 packages will be installed in their place. Then run online update to pick up the updates to 7.2 and you are done. Now compiz works again! Hope this helps some other poor soul. Now maybe the xorg folks will fix the reason compiz won't work in 7.3 with my setup. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] [OT] British time
On Monday 03 December 2007 15:47, Andrew Johnson wrote: On Monday 03 December 2007 20:20:35 Carlos E. R. wrote: No thanks! Then they will come to Spain on weekend booze non stop parties en masse! :-P That's one very good reason for slapping extra 'green' taxes on flights. True, but western Europe is so tiny, they'll just take the train. -- Andrew Johnson RRS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] [OT] British time
On Monday 03 December 2007 20:20:35 Carlos E. R. wrote: No thanks! Then they will come to Spain on weekend booze non stop parties en masse! :-P That's one very good reason for slapping extra 'green' taxes on flights. -- Andrew Johnson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] [OT] British time
On Monday 03 December 2007 12:20, Carlos E. R. wrote: The Monday 2007-12-03 at 16:26 -, peter nikolic wrote: ... Close all pubs at 21:30 hours full stop . No thanks! Then they will come to Spain on weekend booze non stop parties en masse! :-P You know, this reminds me of Wisconsin (my home state) and Illinois. When I was growing up, Wisconsin's drinking age for beer was 18 (21 for other alcohol), while Illinois, just to the south (with Chicago near the northeast corner of the state) had a 21 minimum age for _all_ alcoholic beverages. There used to be ongoing vehicular carnage in the zone between southeastern Wisconsin and northeaster Illinois with kids from Illinois driving up to Wisconsin on weekends to party. Finally, in part under pressure from Illinois citizens and legislators, Wisconsin changed its drinking age to 21 for all alcoholic beverages. -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. RRS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Any news on SiS SATA problem
On Dec 3, 2007 6:14 PM, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 03 December 2007 19:43:48 Greg Freemyer wrote: On Dec 3, 2007 2:00 PM, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Each kernel update gets me excited as I hope they will have solved the problem of openSUSE 10.3 being unable to see SATA hard-drives with certain SATA chipsets (SiS being one of them). I have just upgraded to 2.6.22.13-0.3-default, but my second (SATA) drive is still unusable :( Fortunately, my other drive is EIDE. Does anyone know when a patched kernel will be available? -- Bob Bob, I think in general that SIS Sata controllers are supported. See http://linux-ata.org/features.html which is for the vanilla kernel and is about 6 or 9 months old I think. That's an interesting website, which I didn't know about. Did you file a bugzilla with Novell and try to get it resolved? Not me, but see bug 331610 Greg Very strange, That bug discusses a non-recognized HD, but Tejun Heo's final answer is that the ATAPI support needs a major update. ATAPI is typically used for optical media (CD/DVD), so I have no idea how he came to that conclusion. Maybe there is something wrong in the ATAPI support that is breaking normal hard disk support. Do you have a CD/DVD drive you could try to disconnect and see if acts as a workaround? FYI: I've seen Tejun Heo posting a bunch of ATAPI fixes to the vanilla kernel sata support list so he is definitely working on the problem and it is not a SUSE caused problem. Instead it appears to be a problem in vanilla that Tejun has picked up as his own. I don't remember him working on ATAPI support much prior to this recent spate of patches he has posted. If curious, see http://marc.info/?l=linux-idem=119634686727783w=2 and the 14 associated patches he posted that day. HTH Greg -- Greg Freemyer Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer First 99 Days Litigation White Paper - http://www.norcrossgroup.com/forms/whitepapers/99%20Days%20whitepaper.pdf The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] openSuSE 10.3 - mysql-query-browser-5.0r12-56 Broken
Folks, Among other things, mysql-query-browser-5.0r12-56 is broken in 10.3. The app starts, but freezes as soon as you select a schema. It works fine in 10.0 and worked fine in 10.2. What gives? Anybody else have any experience like this? It won't even connect to the menagerie test database -- that's bad... Also, is this something I should file a bug on with Novell or mysql? -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Simpler forum for OpenSUSE?
On Monday 03 December 2007, Kai Ponte wrote: On Monday 03 December 2007 00:47, Tony D'Souza wrote: Hi All: This mailing-list is pitched too high for me. Please point me to any resource for OpenSUSE 10.3 which is simpler to understand. (I do have elementary knowledge of UNIX.) I'm hoping to migrate from WinXP to OpenSUSE 100% once I'm confident enough. heck, if a newbie like me can understand this forum, anyone can! === Everything will seem easier as you use things and become more accustomed to the terminology, but overall it will be as easy as it was for you to learn Windows. Remember when you had to learn that? ;-) One that Kai mentions, newbie, might be a good point in your emails. If you want to begin your emails/questions with newbie alert, more people will know how to approach your question in understandable terms. There are some here that can no longer drop down to that level any longer, but no matter, there will be helpful parts to their emails as well. Just ask as much as you can from what you know, providing as much info as you can and you'll usually find somebody will have some useful information for you. Sometimes, because of your lack of time with Linux, you don't know the correct question to ask, but explain what you are trying to do and maybe what you've tried. I think you'll find this list to be as helpful as anything. Lee -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] [OT] British time
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2007-12-03 at 16:05 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote: ... from Illinois driving up to Wisconsin on weekends to party. Finally, in part under pressure from Illinois citizens and legislators, Wisconsin changed its drinking age to 21 for all alcoholic beverages. Here (Spain) the... how do you say? the age to be of age? Ok, they are adults at 18, for all things: driving, drinking, voting, owning property, marrying, going to prisons (as inmates)... I believe there are some exceptions, like heavy load, dangerous substances (like gasoline), driving, that require two or three years of previous heavy load driving, I think. You can not drive a car not being of age, not even accompanied. And a few years back there was no minimum drinking age. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHVKYAtTMYHG2NR9URAuXDAKCG/NiaA+N4nt8esabAPa4FasGoJwCeMKOJ lZdM1bd6qvVDupCc1MVdfxM= =51Xc -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] [OT] British time
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2007-12-03 at 15:53 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote: No thanks! Then they will come to Spain on weekend booze non stop parties en masse! :-P That's one very good reason for slapping extra 'green' taxes on flights. True, but western Europe is so tiny, they'll just take the train. X'-) I don't think that would be feasible for a weekend. There is a train under the Channel, which I don't know how fast it is. Then they may take a TGV from Paris to the south... but the AVE from Barcelona to the north I don't know if it is still only on paper or under construction. A day traveling, at best, maybe two, and they'd be so travel tired that I don't think they would be on the mood for more booze. :-P And we didn't take into account the lunch expenses on the train, they may compensate for the flight taxes. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHVKNOtTMYHG2NR9URAvfkAJ9cgOunBNYjq6XetK0RsYInH5ySvACfS/RJ C6T3W6JOqdW7Hj/PWtnpDto= =HEdA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Starting apps automatically in console session - SOLVED
Stephan Hegel wrote: Hi all, Thanks for the feedback, especially Randall's hints for generalization. Also, I've added already a few lines of code to check if dcop is installed and executable. The best way to learn shell scripting is by looking at other shell scripts which do similar sorts of things. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] [OT] British time
On Monday 03 December 2007 16:57, Carlos E. R. wrote: The Monday 2007-12-03 at 16:05 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote: ... from Illinois driving up to Wisconsin on weekends to party. Finally, in part under pressure from Illinois citizens and legislators, Wisconsin changed its drinking age to 21 for all alcoholic beverages. Here (Spain) the... how do you say? the age to be of age? Ok, they are adults at 18, for all things: driving, drinking, voting, owning property, marrying, going to prisons (as inmates)... I believe there are some exceptions, like heavy load, dangerous substances (like gasoline), driving, that require two or three years of previous heavy load driving, I think. You can not drive a car not being of age, not even accompanied. Well, among the many ways in which the U.S. of A. (the best damned country ever or even possible, of course) is ... confused is the age of majority vs. the age at which one can legally purchase and consume alcohol. The age of majority, at which one is deemed able to give full consent, vote and be held to (almost) all standards of adulthood is 18. But one may not buy alcoholic beverages until one reaches age 21. What's more, we allow judges to decide whether minors may be tried (and sentenced) in criminal proceedings as adults. In fact, the age of majority in the U.S. was lowered from 21 to 18 under the argument that if you could be conscripted into military service at age 18, you should be made a full member of society at the same time. We've since suspended (though not truly eliminated) the draft, but the age of majority remains 18 and the legal drinking age remains 21. (Neuroscience, by the way, is now discovering that many parts of the brain, including those associated with moral agency, do not mature fully until one's later 20s!) And a few years back there was no minimum drinking age. Well, everyone knows Europeans countries and peoples are, as societies, adults, while the U.S.A. remains at best an adolescent. An adolescent with too much money, a charge card and very dangerous toys... Who knows how to classify the officially theocratic states... -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. RRS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Where to find Linux header files development package ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2007-12-03 at 22:56 -, Thomas Hertweck wrote: ... Well, it seems as if you had trouble understanding the purpose of make mrproper judging from your comments that you were surprised about the disappearance of .config. If you were dealing with build directories and various kernel trees etc., then you would probably see how useful this Makefile target can be, and you would also know that a reinstallation of the source had not been necessary. Please don't recommend not to use this Makefile target solely based on your own bad experience where you were bitten once - this was obviously your own fault, not knowing what make mrproper is all about at that time. And recommending to use everytime make mrproper without explaining its implications and uses, is just as bad. If I know what it will really do, I'll decide when and if to use it. The make scenario explained in the suse documentation, doesn't need it at all, and therefore, it is not even mentioned in the whole file: install the rpm, cloneconfig, menuconfig/xconfig/config, then make, etc. Nowhere are multiple build directories, trees, etc. People using those complexities usually know what they need. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHVKlQtTMYHG2NR9URAslXAJ4qFYFkoYlq/pk8uzZoXQ2++xjWaQCfXYZk LmVVr2/XOMFmOo2No1JYPY8= =pg1j -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Reset settings for - Open With.. Remember application association..
Rikard Johnels wrote: On Monday 03 December 2007 12:16, williamkow wrote: http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/index.php?showtopic=63377 In the File Manager (Konqueror), I have a folder which contain all my MP3 songs/files, then I right-click that folder, and chosse open with, and select Amarok, and I tick Remember Application Association.., so that i can play all the MP3 songs with Amarok, inside that folder. But, starting now on, whenever I click any icon (other folder), Amarok will be automatically opened, But actually I click the other icon (folder) just because I want see the contain in that folder, and not run Amarok. I have checked the setting in KDE Control Center (Personal Settings/Configure Desktop) KDE Components File Association, but i can find setting that can reset the problem. Please help, thank you. _ What youdid wrong was to mark the folder, and not one mp3 file. You associated the folder with amarok, not the mp3's. No, he associated the file-type directory with amarok. Do the same thing again, rightclick on the folder and choose open with konqueror and make it remember that. and all ought to be well in town again... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Starting apps automatically in console session - SOLVED
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-03-07 20:45]: So now that you've made changes, Patrick's request comes up again (make the script available!). Perhaps you could place the script somewhere accessible to all in its latest form (a server of your own, an entry on the openSUSE Wiki, e.g.). In fact, I think the KDE project itself would allow you to publish it as contributed software. Or I could make the script available - -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHVLY+ClSjbQz1U5oRAkl+AJ4i7pYipuE96BR1T62fo31g7wOd0wCfeghh v/2zXW4TzvDGoZZlK8i2A00= =ZcAE -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] vmware and fake scsi devs
It seems there is one major downside to all the disks being called scsi devices in 10.3. There are applications that take /dev/scx literally as a scsi disk x. One such application is vmware. This ended being a major problem when i tried to use a raw partition as a physical vmware disk on my laptop. The actual disk is an ide device, but the first partition in my Suse 10.3 install is called /dev/sda1 and that is what it passes to vmware as the actual physical disk. Vmware has for a long time stated that it does not boot from physical scsi devices and thus it keels over when it sees that the raw device is scsi. Is there an easy way to pass the actual partition type to vmware (workstation 4.x or server 1.x) in 10.3 or do i go back to 10.2? thanks, d. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Starting apps automatically in console session - SOLVED
On Monday 03 December 2007 05:29, Stephan Hegel wrote: Hi all, Thanks for the feedback, especially Randall's hints for generalization. Also, I've added already a few lines of code to check if dcop is installed and executable. So now that you've made changes, Patrick's request comes up again (make the script available!). Perhaps you could place the script somewhere accessible to all in its latest form (a server of your own, an entry on the openSUSE Wiki, e.g.). In fact, I think the KDE project itself would allow you to publish it as contributed software. Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: [opensuse-kde] KDE4 RC1 looks beautifull!!!
On Monday 03 December 2007 04:38:28 pm Vincent Goh wrote: On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 4:08:05 am M9. wrote: Wow, This is realy going to be cool now! Looks very much better than the beta's i am used to... I am impressed, just keep on doing it cha cha..;-) Feels more complete allready... Dunno 'bout 'th bags yet, but i guess i'll find out... could you post the screenshot somewhere? i'm still unable to get my kde4 to run properly. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here is the only one I have post RC1 (Beta 5) packages 3.96.2 http://www.benkevan.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/KDE4.jpeg I am really looking forward to 3.96.3 + since .2 really seemed to fix some things for me. Ben -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Starting apps automatically in console session - SOLVED
Hi all, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-03-07 20:45]: So now that you've made changes, Patrick's request comes up again (make the script available!). Sure, I make it available. Find it below. It's short enough, so I think I can post it to the mailing list. As mentioned I start it from $HOME/.kde/Autostart to make sure it is started only when KDE is started. It is just a one-liner named konsoleapps.sh containing (sleep 5 $HOME/bin/startkonsoleapps) . Or I could make the script available Patrick, feel free to do so. And change and adjust it as you like ... Rgds, Stephan. -- #!/bin/sh ### ### startkonsoleapps ### ### Script to start certain apps in KDE konsole sessions. ### ### Requires the dcop utility to be installed and the konsoles must ### be started with the --script option to enable extended features ### like sendSession. The sessions must already exist. ### ### Executable(s). DCOP=/opt/kde3/bin/dcop ### Location of startup scripts. KONSOLEAPPS=$HOME/.konsoleapps ### Here we go ... ### Checking for system executables. if [ ! -x $DCOP ] ; then echo $DCOP doesn't exist or isn't executable. exit 1 fi ### Looking for all konsoles. for i in `$DCOP konsole\*` ; do ### Checking if sendSession feature available. if [ `$DCOP $i session-1 functions | grep sendSession | wc -l` -eq 1 ] ; then ### Function sendSession available, continue. ### Looking for all sessions. for j in `$DCOP $i | grep session-` ; do ### What's the name ? NAME=`$DCOP $i $j sessionName` ### If the name matches a predefined session name, launch ### the desired application. if [ -x $KONSOLEAPPS/$NAME ] ; then $DCOP $i $j sendSession $KONSOLEAPPS/$NAME fi done else ### Function sendSession not available. echo Konsole $i not started with the \--script\ option. fi done exit 0 --- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] vmware and fake scsi devs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: It seems there is one major downside to all the disks being called scsi devices in 10.3. There is no downside, error or annoyance, it is just a well known change.. did you read the release notes ? http://www.suse.com/relnotes/i386/openSUSE/10.3/RELEASE-NOTES.en.html#09 -- The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education. - Albert Einstein Cristian Rodríguez R. Platform/OpenSUSE - Core Services SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Research Development http://www.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] [OT] British time
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Monday 2007-12-03 at 17:35 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote: Well, among the many ways in which the U.S. of A. (the best damned country ever or even possible, of course) is ... confused is the age of majority vs. the age at which one can legally purchase and consume alcohol. The age of majority, at which one is deemed able to give full consent, vote and be held to (almost) all standards of adulthood is 18. But one may not buy alcoholic beverages until one reaches age 21. Curious! :-) (Neuroscience, by the way, is now discovering that many parts of the brain, including those associated with moral agency, do not mature fully until one's later 20s!) Not surprising... which is probably one reason why best soldiers are so young, and politicians want to lower the voting age. And a few years back there was no minimum drinking age. Well, everyone knows Europeans countries and peoples are, as societies, adults, while the U.S.A. remains at best an adolescent. An adolescent with too much money, a charge card and very dangerous toys... X'-) No, we Europeans are very varied, you find us in all kinds. Older, maybe, but we can and we are pretty daft often. But that would be entering politics, and that is an off topic I do not wish to enter: too controversial. - From the humorous comment on drinking sprees and drinking age we drifted into politics, so I think we should stop ourselves here ;-) So, back into drinking habits. When I was a kid (12?), the telly announced a wine that improved appetite (Vino Santa Catalina, I think). And it was given to kids. They tried it on me... and I found it gagging. So I grew skinny :-p Another one. Babies were given one of those rubber things to suck and shut up (I don't know the English name), which some people humidified with anís (anisette in French, perhaps), an alcoholic beverage very sweet with aniseed flavor. So the baby would shut up faster. Of course, parents doing that now would go to court or something. How times change! - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHVMe8tTMYHG2NR9URAvlNAJsF4fQfL83yFdf3Ax4UwtLhWjUjRwCfZerX zfM4jxZwQY2mMfsrkjKtMEY= =4pex -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [opensuse] 10.2 - printing sorta works
On 2007/12/01 10:45 (GMT+0800) Joe Morris (NTM) apparently typed: On 12/01/2007 10:24 AM, Felix Miata wrote: My printer is a LaserJet 4M with PS on ethernet. Printing a test page with YaST, or web pages with FF, SM Konq all work, but no matter what app I use to try to print a PDF, the online and form feed lights do their thing, but after a while stop without ever printing anything. Anyone know what to look for? What driver did you use. We use a 4Plus. i have found the hp-ijs driver to work the best. It seems out of too many choices that that's the only one that will do a PDF here. Thanks! -- Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. John Adams Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] [OT] British time
Carlos E. R. pecked at the keyboard and wrote: The Monday 2007-12-03 at 17:35 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote: Well, among the many ways in which the U.S. of A. (the best damned country ever or even possible, of course) is ... confused is the age of majority vs. the age at which one can legally purchase and consume alcohol. The age of majority, at which one is deemed able to give full consent, vote and be held to (almost) all standards of adulthood is 18. But one may not buy alcoholic beverages until one reaches age 21. Curious! :-) (Neuroscience, by the way, is now discovering that many parts of the brain, including those associated with moral agency, do not mature fully until one's later 20s!) Not surprising... which is probably one reason why best soldiers are so young, and politicians want to lower the voting age. And a few years back there was no minimum drinking age. Well, everyone knows Europeans countries and peoples are, as societies, adults, while the U.S.A. remains at best an adolescent. An adolescent with too much money, a charge card and very dangerous toys... X'-) No, we Europeans are very varied, you find us in all kinds. Older, maybe, but we can and we are pretty daft often. But that would be entering politics, and that is an off topic I do not wish to enter: too controversial. - From the humorous comment on drinking sprees and drinking age we drifted into politics, so I think we should stop ourselves here ;-) So, back into drinking habits. When I was a kid (12?), the telly announced a wine that improved appetite (Vino Santa Catalina, I think). And it was given to kids. They tried it on me... and I found it gagging. So I grew skinny :-p Another one. Babies were given one of those rubber things to suck and shut up (I don't know the English name) pacifier , which some people humidified with anís (anisette in French, perhaps), an alcoholic beverage very sweet with aniseed flavor. So the baby would shut up faster. I grew up in Michigan where the drinking age once went from 21 to 18 and shortly after went back to 21 because of problems. Now, back to the purpose of this list. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Simpler forum for OpenSUSE?
BandiPat pecked at the keyboard and wrote: On Monday 03 December 2007, Kai Ponte wrote: On Monday 03 December 2007 00:47, Tony D'Souza wrote: 100% once I'm confident enough. heck, if a newbie like me can understand this forum, anyone can! === Everything will seem easier as you use things and become more accustomed to the terminology, but overall it will be as easy as it was for you to learn Windows. Remember when you had to learn that? ;-) One that Kai mentions, newbie, might be a good point in your emails. If you want to begin your emails/questions with newbie alert, more people will know how to approach your question in understandable terms. There are some here that can no longer drop down to that level any longer, but no matter, there will be helpful parts to their emails as well. Just ask as much as you can from what you know, providing as much info as you can and you'll usually find somebody will have some useful information for you. Sometimes, because of your lack of time with Linux, you don't know the correct question to ask, but explain what you are trying to do and maybe what you've tried. I think you'll find this list to be as helpful as anything. Lee And remember, on this list the only stupid question is the one that *isn't* asked. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Simpler forum for OpenSUSE?
On Monday 03 December 2007 20:22, Ken Schneider wrote: ... And remember, on this list the only stupid question is the one that *isn't* asked. You insult the multitude of questions I have not asked! What did you way was the purpose of this list?? -- Ken Schneider RRS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] vmware and fake scsi devs
On Monday 03 December 2007 10:09:38 pm Cristian Rodríguez wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: It seems there is one major downside to all the disks being called scsi devices in 10.3. There is no downside, error or annoyance, it is just a well known change.. did you read the release notes ? http://www.suse.com/relnotes/i386/openSUSE/10.3/RELEASE-NOTES.en.html#09 I'm sorry Cristian, but there is a downside, and a big annoyance. By being limited in the partitions available. Especially with the huge drives that are available today, That is a very big downside. Not only that, when I installed 10.3, it renamed my other two IDE drives, and changed their order. Really !!! Why ? I know, I know !! There was a big discussion on this list about that awhile back. We patiently await fixing the partition limitation. Soon? I hope ? Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] vmware and fake scsi devs
Bob S escribió: By being limited in the partitions available. Especially with the huge drives that are available today. LVM exists in order to preserve mental sanity in such setups. -- The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education. - Albert Einstein Cristian Rodríguez R. Platform/OpenSUSE - Core Services SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Research Development http://www.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] /etc/issue.net gui
How can I make a display message come up before anyone logs into X? I'm using KDE. -- Michael S. Dunsavage -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] vmware and fake scsi devs
On Dec 3, 2007 9:44 PM, Bob S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 03 December 2007 10:09:38 pm Cristian Rodríguez wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: It seems there is one major downside to all the disks being called scsi devices in 10.3. There is no downside, error or annoyance, it is just a well known change.. did you read the release notes ? http://www.suse.com/relnotes/i386/openSUSE/10.3/RELEASE-NOTES.en.html#09 I'm sorry Cristian, but there is a downside, and a big annoyance. By being limited in the partitions available. Especially with the huge drives that are available today, That is a very big downside. Not only that, when I installed 10.3, it renamed my other two IDE drives, and changed their order. Really !!! Why ? I know, I know !! There was a big discussion on this list about that awhile back. We patiently await fixing the partition limitation. Soon? I hope ? If you need lots of partitions (/dev/hdx naming) use the workaround from the release notes. I seriously doubt 10.3 will ever support increased partitions for /dev/sdx devices. I have read nothing on the kernel ata list that shows anyone is even working on it yet. Of course Novell could be doing so on their own, but I would be very surprised. Greg -- Greg Freemyer Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer First 99 Days Litigation White Paper - http://www.norcrossgroup.com/forms/whitepapers/99%20Days%20whitepaper.pdf The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] [OT] British time
On Monday 03 December 2007 07:05:50 pm Randall R Schulz wrote: On Monday 03 December 2007 12:20, Carlos E. R. wrote: The Monday 2007-12-03 at 16:26 -, peter nikolic wrote: ... Close all pubs at 21:30 hours full stop . No thanks! Then they will come to Spain on weekend booze non stop parties en masse! :-P You know, this reminds me of Wisconsin (my home state) and Illinois. When I was growing up, Wisconsin's drinking age for beer was 18 (21 for other alcohol), while Illinois, just to the south (with Chicago near the northeast corner of the state) had a 21 minimum age for _all_ alcoholic beverages. There used to be ongoing vehicular carnage in the zone between southeastern Wisconsin and northeaster Illinois with kids from Illinois driving up to Wisconsin on weekends to party. Finally, in part under pressure from Illinois citizens and legislators, Wisconsin changed its drinking age to 21 for all alcoholic beverages. That wasn't only Wisconsin and Illinois. It was New Jersey and New York also. New Jersey was an age 21 State for alcohol. New York was 18 for any alcohol. I was a NJ police officer back then and I can vouch for the carnage along the roads coming back from New York State. They didn't change New York to 21 for many years until after I left there. Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: save rpm files from online update
Carlos E. R. wrote: The Sunday 2007-11-25 at 15:36 +0900, Gavin Chester wrote: I'd love to have this option BACK. Yes, I say back, because we had that option in SuSE 8 and 9, before we got zypper and zmd et families. It was removed, and not because it was not wanted, I guess. You can easily do what you ask if you switch to smart for updates instead of the standard suse tools under yast. Not an option for me: I want the official tools only, or at least, mainly. Here here. I REALLY hope they bring back the function to save RPMs and patches with the YOU tool. A proxy in all theory might work but it would require a separate box and or HDD in the current machine. A better option is to provide a YAST GUI to set up a software store/repository on an existing fs, perhaps under /home as most people keep, or at least should keep, a backup of this folder. Hylton -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: save rpm files from online update
Stanislav Visnovsky wrote: Dňa Sunday 25 November 2007 13:16:32 Carlos E. R. ste napísal: The Sunday 2007-11-25 at 15:36 +0900, Gavin Chester wrote: I'd love to have this option BACK. snip Not an option for me: I want the official tools only, or at least, mainly. It's on our radar for 11.0, looking into it. :)) Hope it manages to get included as it really will be a smack around the face for Microsoft, and also REAL useful for those who are on low band connections, asides from being able to update the store from a DVD that they perhaps downloaded at a local internet cafe. Hylton -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Giving Up: audio trouble in Opensuse 10.3 ... after login
On 12/03/2007 Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Mon, 2007-11-26 at 09:00 +0700, chika wrote: The YaST sound configuration window shows that the ESS1988 Allegro-1 was configured as sound card number 0. It also lists the driver as snd_maestro3. So that seems like the card is being found. But did YaST play the test sound? I've run across a couple instances where the install found the card and it showed just fine in YaST but I've had to configure them with YaST. When you highlight the card there should be Edit button just below the listing. Go through the configuration. That usually get a recalcitrant card working. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] soundcard disappearing
Hi, My PC has two sound cards, one integrated (HDA NVidia adapter in an ASUS M2N-E motherboard) and a Sound Blaster Live Value. Both are configured in Yast. Additionally, I also have a webcam (Logitech QuickCam Pro 4000). This webcam is also registered as a USB sound device. That's a total of 3 devices out of which I usually get 2 working after a boot, the SB Live card is not working usually. After rcalsasound restart I get the HDA NVidia and SB Live cards both working but the USB device disappears. I don't really care about the mic in the webcam, I think it never actually worked but would like to have the SB Live card to be always available. Any idea why it doesn't always show up and how to fix this? I have openSUSE 10.3 with the default kernel (2.6.22.13-0.3-default) and alsa-1.0.14-31. Thanks, Tom -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
