[opensuse-factory] Latest Factory Installation YAST observations:

2008-01-19 Thread Bryen
(Using Factory boot.iso dated 01/18/08)

1.  I noticed that during installation, pop-up dialog boxes requiring
user action show up in the upper left corner.   Took me a while to
notice it, as I kept clicking Next with no results.  Wouldn't it be
better to have this pop up in the center of the screen?

2.  During partition operations, I would go into fstab options.  When
done, it would not go back to the primary partition window.   I finally
realized I needed to alt+tab to get to that window to click done before
returning to the main installer window.

3.  When all is said and done, I log into my new system just fine with
no problems.  However, when rebooting, the system goes to the second
phase of Installer and says the last installation attempt had failed.
I've found that if I ignore this, it will still boot into the system
normally and I can log in there.  Subsequent reboots do not present this
error again.  If I do not ignore the message and proceed to re-answer
the questions (which strangely enough are already populated with my
previous answers) then the error is repeated upon each reboot until I
ignore the error.  Then it goes away.

 
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Re: [opensuse] Grub Error 21

2008-01-19 Thread Rajko M.
On Friday 18 January 2008 12:29:38 am Aaron Kulkis wrote:
  I ran into this not long ago. If I recall, the only thing required to
  fix it was to boot from the dvd, drop to a console as root and type
 
  grub-install /dev/sda
 
  reboot

 probably a mount command in there someplace too, eh?

Where? 
I don't see place for it.

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Re: [opensuse] Latest xorg update is problematic

2008-01-19 Thread G T Smith
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Mike wrote:
 On Friday 18 January 2008, Chuck Davis wrote:
 Guys:

 Just as a point of interest, I upgraded this a.m. and restarted the X
 server.  Java as below is having no problem that I have detected.

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 java version 1.6.0_10-ea
 Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_10-ea-b09)
 Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 11.0-b09, mixed mode)
 
 According to the bug 354615 discussion, the problem does not appear on x86_64

I am using the i586 version without problems. The open-suse security
list thread indicates a fix sometime early next week. BTW There is also
an indication on this thread that merely restarting X will not complete
the installation procedure.

Also no-one seems to have noted whether there is a possibility of a
third factor, e.g. Window Manager, gtk version also being involved. The
fact that it works for some and not others would suggest this.

(Unusual for me to have something that works for me and few others on
this machine, its usually the other way round :-) ).

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Re: [opensuse] postfix master.cf question

2008-01-19 Thread Carlos Lorenzo Matés
Hi.




El Viernes, 18 de Enero de 2008, Sandy Drobic escribió:
 Carlos Lorenzo Matés wrote:
  Hi to All.
 
  Is possible to use a variable user in the pipe option?

 Yeees... that is possible. Though I don't know if it is exactly what you
 require. man 8 pipe will tell you that the pipe deamon expands the
 localpart of the recipient address (the part left of the @ character in
 the recipient address) for the macro ${user}.
 If that is the information you need, everything works.

  ie:
 
  procmail  unix  -   n   n   -   -   pipe
flags=R user=nobody argv=/usr/bin/procmail -t -m /etc/procmailrc
  ${sender} ${recipient}
 
 
  in this line change the user=nobody to user=${user}

 I wouldn't touch that.

 If you deliver to a command via mailbox_command (not a pipe) then this
 comes to play:

 Mailbox delivery can be delegated to an  external  command
 specified  with  the mailbox_command_maps and mailbox_com-
 mand configuration parameters. The command  executes  with
 the  privileges  of  the  recipient user (exceptions: sec-
 ondary groups are not enabled;  in  case  of  delivery  as
 root,   the   command  executes  with  the  privileges  of
 default_privs).

 Would that help you?

  it is not exactly to change the procmail user, but for changing the user
  in the emailto fax gateway, the line is similar.

 How does the line look?



Well, the case is exactly this one.

I have a mail to fax gateway, but the fax jobs are sent always with the same 
user (the sendfax). What i want is that the fax job is sent each time with 
the user who really send the mai

Now i have this line in the master.cf

fax   unix  -   n   n   -   1   pipe
   flags= user=fax argv=/usr/bin/faxmail -d -n $(user)


All the faxes seems to be sent by the user fax. I whant that each fax sent 
belongs to the user who really sent the fax.


what i whould change is the user=fax to user=$(user), but i tried this and 
failed

Thanks


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[opensuse] Desktop search alternatives

2008-01-19 Thread Philippe Landau

I waited years in anticipation of beagle.
Then finally on OpenSuse 10.3 when i tried to use it
i found it took a long time to find and list results
and i saw no way of having it list results with
the search words in the file name listed on top,
giving those results more weight or relevance rating.

This was especially disappointing when comparing with
online search engines searching through billions of
documents and often listing highly relevant results
within fractions of seconds ...

I am a full time researcher so searching files is
something i do often, both full text and file names.
Beagle is so slow that i disabled it,
so i was glad when under the subject of Why beagle
others expressed the shortcomings.

Konqueror Ctrl-f is still buggy in it's handling
of what you do with listed files, lacks basic features
like open parent directory, requires users to know
grep when searching for partial matches or more then one word,
only searches one partition at a time.
And i never managed to use properties like file size successfully.
Unfortunately this did not change in KDE4's dolphin.
Konqueror's Filter This Folder does not search in sub-directories.

What is your experience with desktop search alternatives ?
Can you recommend affinity-search, doodle,
strigi (strigiclient), others ?

Kind regards Philippe
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[opensuse] encrypting your home parition

2008-01-19 Thread Wayne and Leanne Roberts
Hi all

Does/ has anybody used the encrypt your home partition feature ON
SUSE 10.3?
How transparent is it in use? Any performance overheads? Any
technical primers available?

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Re: [opensuse] java

2008-01-19 Thread M9.
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Carlos F. Lange schreef:

 Have a look at 
 http://en.opensuse.org/How_To_use_Java_with_Firefox_on_64-bit_openSuSE_10.3
 
 I still need to clean it up, but all the info is there to have a 
 parallel version of Firefox 32bit with Java coexist in your 64b system.
 

Well, yes i had this in 10.2, and that worked.
The only problem with the 64bit java version is the plugin.
it is 32 bit, that is why it does not works...
i thought Pavel wrote he had a solution for the plugin.. ;-)
Until now, the only 64bit plugin is the blackdown, but that is verion
1.4, and it is an RC version.
I wounder why that pkg is not maintained, because that works.


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Re: [opensuse] encrypting your home partition

2008-01-19 Thread PerfectReign
On Fri, January 18, 2008 5:38 am, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
 Wayne and Leanne Roberts wrote:
 Hi all

  Does/ has anybody used the encrypt your home partition feature ON
 SUSE 10.3?
  How transparent is it in use? Any performance overheads? Any
 technical primers available?


 Maybe if you start a new thread, instead of just hijacking
 the thread  Subject: Re: [opensuse] Sshd _config options
 then people might be more responsive to your plea.

Thread?

This is email. There is no thread.


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[opensuse] xen - adding virtual hardware

2008-01-19 Thread Jose

Hi

First time sitting down and playing with Xen, I created a guest instance 
of Centos5, I installed from iso, using the gui tools but now I need to 
change that iso declaration to actual dvd rom, but I can't, when I 
shutdown and I open the details of the disks section, everything is 
greyed out, nothing is accessible, I tried adding a new disk, but 
nothing, the other tabs seemded to work, like modifying ram, is this the 
way this tool works?


Thanks

Jose
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Re: [opensuse] encrypting your home partition

2008-01-19 Thread Philipp Thomas
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 06:18:51 -0800 (PST), PerfectReign wrote:

This is email. There is no thread.

Either you simply forgot a smiley or I don't get it. Of cause there are
mail threads. What do you think In-Reply-To and References in the mail
header were invented for?

Yes, there are those wannabe MUAs such as Outlook, Groupwise and Notes
that constantly ignore the existence of In-Reply-To, but that's a
different story.

Philipp
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Re: [opensuse] Gimp and Firefox

2008-01-19 Thread Philipp Thomas
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 00:22:48 -0500, Fred A. Miller wrote:

 but unfortunately the people who produce it have their collective 
 heads planted where there's no sunlight and won't port it to Linux.

Ah, once again on your favourite crusade?

Just maybe because calculations tell Adobe that the effort of porting
Photoshop to Linux and maintaining it won't be profitable? Plus all
those third party photoshop plugins which their repective manufacturers
would also have to ported to Linux?

That's not to say I wouldn't welcome a Linux version of Photoshop.

Philipp
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[opensuse] Trying to use TLS with Fetchmail

2008-01-19 Thread Manuel Mely
Hi,

I would like to fetch my mail from gmail using fetchmail. But one of
the requisites gmail pop is to use TLS and share Certs.
As i can see fetchmail package from OpenSuSe 10.3 doesn't allow to use
TLS. Is there other package to install.
It will be nice if i don't have to compile fetchmail to enable this.

Greetings.
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[opensuse] Encrypted file system: disable mount on boot.

2008-01-19 Thread Wendell Nichols
I have an encrypted partition on my laptop hard drive for company source
etc.  I only need it occasionally so I would like to disable the mount
on boot.  Its irritating that the vastly improved boot times of suse
10.3 are obviated by the need to come back and enter my password halfway
through the boot (can't even go get coffee!).
I've tried using the noauto option in fstab for that filesystem.. no dice.
Any ideas?
wcn
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Re: [opensuse] Desktop search alternatives

2008-01-19 Thread CyberOrg
On Jan 19, 2008 5:35 PM, Philippe Landau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 What is your experience with desktop search alternatives ?
 Can you recommend affinity-search, doodle,
 strigi (strigiclient), others ?


Try namazu

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Re: [opensuse] libglx.so: undefined symbol: _nv000069gl

2008-01-19 Thread Chris Ross


Patrick Shanahan escreveu:

no, but you might try reinstalling xorg-x11-server-glx which is the
owner of the file, libglx.so, giving the error.


I couldn't see that specific file in YaST but I uninstalled X completely 
(which took a lot of dependencies with it, of course) then installed KDE 
(which brought X back in) and the nvidia modules. It *still* complains...



nvidia-gfx-kmp-default-1.0.9639_2.6.18.8_0.7-0.1 Sat 19 Jan 2008 
16:04:15 GMT

x11-video-nvidia-1.0.9639-0.1 Sat 19 Jan 2008 16:03:20 GMT
kdenetwork3-vnc-3.5.5-29  Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:59:32 GMT
MozillaFirefox-translations-2.0.0.10-0.1  Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:59:26 GMT
kdenetwork3-InstantMessenger-3.5.5-41.2   Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:56:43 GMT
qtcurve-kde-0.45.2-9  Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:52:58 GMT
java-1_5_0-sun-plugin-1.5.0_update13-0.5  Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:52:52 GMT
kdenetwork3-3.5.5-41.4Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:52:33 GMT
yast2-control-center-2.14.1-6 Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:44 GMT
xtermset-0.5.2-153Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:43 GMT
xorg-x11-libX11-ccache-7.2-12 Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:41 GMT
xlockmore-5.23-11 Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:40 GMT
xkeyboard-config-0.9-24   Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:39 GMT
xdmbgrd-0.6-21Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:37 GMT
xdg-utils-1.0.1-7 Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:37 GMT
x11-input-wacom-0.7.6-18  Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:36 GMT
x11-tools-0.1-57  Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:35 GMT
x11-input-synaptics-0.14.6-24 Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:35 GMT
unclutter-8-874   Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:34 GMT
ufraw-gimp-0.9.120061023-21   Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:33 GMT
ufraw-0.9.120061023-21Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:33 GMT
tightvnc-1.2.9-224Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:32 GMT
sane-frontends-1.0.14-44  Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:31 GMT
qtcurve-gtk2-0.45.3-18Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:30 GMT
preload-0.2-47Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:29 GMT
pinentry-qt-0.7.2-1   Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:28 GMT
opensuse-quickstart_en-10.2-9 Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:27 GMT
opensuse-manual_en-10.2-28Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:27 GMT
numlockx-1.1-23   Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:18 GMT
lsb-3.1-22Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:17 GMT
libopensync-tools-0.20-11 Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:15 GMT
libopensync-plugin-syncml-0.20-13 Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:15 GMT
libopensync-plugin-sunbird-0.20-7 Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:14 GMT
libopensync-plugin-opie-0.20-7Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:14 GMT
libopensync-plugin-palm-0.20-9Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:13 GMT
libopensync-plugin-kdepim-0.20-12 Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:12 GMT
libopensync-plugin-irmc-0.20-7Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:12 GMT
libopensync-plugin-gpe-0.20-7 Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:11 GMT
libopensync-plugin-gnokii-0.20-8  Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:11 GMT
libopensync-plugin-file-0.20-7Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:10 GMT
krecord-1.16-56   Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:10 GMT
konversation-1.0.1-23 Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:09 GMT
kitchensync-0.01svn602778-17  Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:05 GMT
kio_iso-1.70.1-28 Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:05 GMT
kio_ipodslave-0.8.pre1-31 Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:04 GMT
kio_beagle-0.3.1-34   Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:03 GMT
kerry-0.2.1-8 Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:03 GMT
exiftool-6.49-10  Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:01 GMT
kdenetwork3-news-3.5.5-29 Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:00 GMT
evms-gui-2.5.5-67 Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:51:00 GMT
kcm_gtk-0.7cvs20060209-25 Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:50:59 GMT
kdetv-0.8.9-10Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:50:58 GMT
kdeartwork3-xscreensaver-3.5.5-28 Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:50:56 GMT
kdeartwork3-kscreensaver-3.5.5-28 Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:50:56 GMT
dcraw-1.353-12Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:50:55 GMT
gimp-help-0.9-45  Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:50:53 GMT
cabextract-1.2-16 Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:50:39 GMT
beagle-index-10.2_20061101-31 Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:50:33 GMT
kdeaddons3-kicker-3.5.5-5 Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:50:26 GMT
beagle-firefox-0.2.12-28  Sat 19 Jan 2008 15:50:26 GMT
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Re: [opensuse] Gimp and Firefox

2008-01-19 Thread peter

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Philipp Thomas schrieb:

| but unfortunately the people who produce it have their collective
| heads planted where there's no sunlight and won't port it to Linux.

| Ah, once again on your favourite crusade?

| Just maybe because calculations tell Adobe that the effort of porting
| Photoshop to Linux and maintaining it won't be profitable?

Take into account that Adobe programs did not originate in MS Windows
environment.

| those third party photoshop plugins which their repective manufacturers
| would also have to ported to Linux?

Well their are porting from MAC to Windows already. What would be the
easier way to port, from MAC to Windows or from MAC to Linux?

IMO the reasons are different.
Consider what would happen to Apple sells if Adobe would perform such a
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Re: [opensuse] libglx.so: undefined symbol: _nv000069gl

2008-01-19 Thread auxsvr
On Saturday 19 January 2008, Chris Ross wrote:

 $ grep glx /var/log/Xorg.0.log
 (II) LoadModule: glx
 (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/updates/extensions//libglx.so
 dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/updates/extensions//libglx.so: undefined
 symbol: _nv69gl
 (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/updates/extensions//libglx.so
 (II) UnloadModule: glx
 (EE) Failed to load module glx (loader failed, 7)

 So that means I have now reinstalled the kernel, X, and the nvidia
 drivers but I *still* get this unresolved symbol error.

 I've only installed the nvidia modules through YaST, not NVidia's custom
 app.

 It's entirely plausible that my 11 year old has upgraded or uninstalled
 something that's caused a clash, but what?

 Regards,
 Chris R.

Try removing the /usr/lib/xorg/modules/updates/extensions/libglx.so file. X 
should be using /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so instead.
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Re: Email Threading (WAS: Re: [opensuse] encrypting your home partition)

2008-01-19 Thread M. Skiba
Am Samstag, 19. Januar 2008 17:48:34 schrieb PerfectReign:
 My apologies. I forgot that you can thread emails on KMail.

 I have it turned off.   I do the same in KNode and Pan, but forgot you
 can thread in email.
It's not just Kmail :)
it is actually a standard and part of RFC 822: 4.6.1  4.6.2.

Greetings
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Re: [opensuse] Always mount a USB drive with NTFS-3G?

2008-01-19 Thread Doctor Who
On Jan 18, 2008 8:28 PM, Aaron Kulkis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Carlos E. R. wrote:
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  The Friday 2008-01-18 at 14:22 -0500, Doctor Who wrote:
 
  Thanks.  I installed the package successfully, but I don't see how it
  helps to mount the drive with ntfs-3g.  According to the homepage, I
  should see a box pop-up when I plug the drive in giving me the option
  to be able to write to the drive, but that doesn't happen here.  I
  *do* have ntfs-3g installed and can write to the drive if I mount it
  manually from a console.
 
  Any ideas?
 
  Try creating an fstab line for it, using /dev/disk/by-id/... as the
  device node (it is independent of where it is plugged).

 Personally, I prefer using a volume label
 That way, it can identify that particular disk drive
 as needing 3G support, but if he decides to make, say
 an ext3 USB drive, it won't be a major annoyance.



So is that something like?:

LABEL=WD_Passport /media/WD_Passport ntfs-3g defaults 0 0

Does it matter what the /media mount point is named?
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Re: Email Threading (WAS: Re: [opensuse] encrypting your home partition)

2008-01-19 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Saturday 2008-01-19 at 08:48 -0800, PerfectReign wrote:


On Sat, January 19, 2008 7:11 am, Philipp Thomas wrote:

On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 06:18:51 -0800 (PST), PerfectReign wrote:


This is email. There is no thread.


Either you simply forgot a smiley or I don't get it. Of cause there
are
mail threads. What do you think In-Reply-To and References in the mail
header were invented for?

Yes, there are those wannabe MUAs such as Outlook, Groupwise and Notes
that constantly ignore the existence of In-Reply-To, but that's a
different story.


My apologies. I forgot that you can thread emails on KMail.


All decent mail programs do thread. Thunderbird, Mozilla, Kmail, even text 
only clients like Pine or mutt. Gmail web client does thread, but it calls 
it conversations.


And the archive is threaded.

Even Outlook does thread:

  X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0
  Thread-Index: AchZxUFbeX4hpExoQh2zru0l/TqnbgAAC2AA

Although being Microsoft, it uses something else instead of the standard.



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Re: [opensuse] Encrypted file system: disable mount on boot.

2008-01-19 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Saturday 2008-01-19 at 08:45 -0700, Wendell Nichols wrote:


I have an encrypted partition on my laptop hard drive for company source
etc.  I only need it occasionally so I would like to disable the mount
on boot.  Its irritating that the vastly improved boot times of suse
10.3 are obviated by the need to come back and enter my password halfway
through the boot (can't even go get coffee!).
I've tried using the noauto option in fstab for that filesystem.. no dice.


Use the noauto option where it is due: in '/etc/crypttab'. More info, man 
crypttab.



If you don't, and you go for a coffe, you will find that boot timed out 
skipping that mount anyway :-p


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Re: [opensuse] Always mount a USB drive with NTFS-3G?

2008-01-19 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Friday 2008-01-18 at 22:22 -0500, Doctor Who wrote:


Try creating an fstab line for it, using /dev/disk/by-id/... as the
device node (it is independent of where it is plugged).



Not sure what you mean here...what would that look like?  Would I need
to create a name for it myself like /dev/disk/by-id/wd-usb or do I get
the name from /var/log/messages as it's detected, or something else
entirely?


Trick: once the drive is mounted, and supposing you discovered it is 
/dev/sda1, do a grep for it:


ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/ | grep sda1


You can also see it using the yast partitioner, and I suppose there are 
other methods I haven't investigated.



Example (vfat):

/dev/disk/by-id/usb-EGOMAN_Audio_Player_003110001001-part1   
/mnt/usb/mp3  vfat  
noauto,user,users,uid=cer,gid=users,fmask=0117,dmask=0007,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=437
   0 0





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Re: [opensuse] Always mount a USB drive with NTFS-3G?

2008-01-19 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Friday 2008-01-18 at 20:28 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:


 Try creating an fstab line for it, using /dev/disk/by-id/... as the
 device node (it is independent of where it is plugged).


Personally, I prefer using a volume label
That way, it can identify that particular disk drive
as needing 3G support, but if he decides to make, say
an ext3 USB drive, it won't be a major annoyance.


Me too, but not all formats allow for a label. I don't know if you can 
mount by label an vfat partition, yast did not offer that to me, I think. 
And the OP is using NTFS.


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Re: [opensuse] libglx.so: undefined symbol: _nv000069gl

2008-01-19 Thread Chris Ross



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Try removing the /usr/lib/xorg/modules/updates/extensions/libglx.so file. X 
should be using /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so instead.



Are you sure about that?

# locate libglx.so
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/updates/extensions/libglx.so
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/updates/extensions/libglx.so.1.0.9639

# rpm -qf /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
xorg-x11-server-7.2-30.11

# rpm -qf /usr/lib/xorg/modules/updates/extensions/libglx.so
x11-video-nvidia-1.0.9639-0.1


You mean uninstall x11-video-nvidia presumably, not just
rm /usr/lib/xorg/modules/updates/extensions/libglx.so*

OK, so in YaST I uninstalled x11-video-nvidia and nvidia-gfx-kmp-default

and just for good measure reinstalled xorg-x11-server to ensure
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so that is good.


So that gets rid of the error on loading the libglx, but without
hardware acceleration of course.

$ glxinfo
name of display: :0.0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: No
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2


Next stop then is to reinstall x11-video-nvidia which I did simply by 
ticking the checkbox next to it in YaST (as documented
at http://en.opensuse.org/NVIDIA). Naturally YaST selected 
nvidia-gfx-kmp-default too.


So now we have

$ rpm -qa --last | head
x11-video-nvidia-1.0.9639-0.1 Sat 19 Jan 2008 17:33:25 GMT
nvidia-gfx-kmp-default-1.0.9639_2.6.18.8_0.7-0.1 Sat 19 Jan 2008 
17:30:32 GMT

xorg-x11-server-7.2-30.11 Sat 19 Jan 2008 17:15:05 GMT


Restart X (i.e. logout and login again) ...
And we're right back to

$ glxinfo
name of display: :0.0
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual

$ grep glx /var/log/Xorg.0.log
(II) LoadModule: glx
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/updates/extensions//libglx.so
dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/updates/extensions//libglx.so: undefined 
symbol: _nv69gl

(EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/updates/extensions//libglx.so
(II) UnloadModule: glx
(EE) Failed to load module glx (loader failed, 7)


At this point I /really/ don't know what I'm doing wrong.



Regards,
Chris R.

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Re: [opensuse] libglx.so: undefined symbol: _nv000069gl

2008-01-19 Thread auxsvr
On Saturday 19 January 2008, Chris Ross wrote:

 Are you sure about that?

 # locate libglx.so
 /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
 /usr/lib/xorg/modules/updates/extensions/libglx.so
 /usr/lib/xorg/modules/updates/extensions/libglx.so.1.0.9639

 # rpm -qf /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
 xorg-x11-server-7.2-30.11

 # rpm -qf /usr/lib/xorg/modules/updates/extensions/libglx.so
 x11-video-nvidia-1.0.9639-0.1


 You mean uninstall x11-video-nvidia presumably, not just
 rm /usr/lib/xorg/modules/updates/extensions/libglx.so*

 OK, so in YaST I uninstalled x11-video-nvidia and nvidia-gfx-kmp-default

 and just for good measure reinstalled xorg-x11-server to ensure
 /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so that is good.


 So that gets rid of the error on loading the libglx, but without
 hardware acceleration of course.

 $ glxinfo
 name of display: :0.0
 display: :0  screen: 0
 direct rendering: No
 server glx vendor string: SGI
 server glx version string: 1.2


 Next stop then is to reinstall x11-video-nvidia which I did simply by
 ticking the checkbox next to it in YaST (as documented
 at http://en.opensuse.org/NVIDIA). Naturally YaST selected
 nvidia-gfx-kmp-default too.

 So now we have

 $ rpm -qa --last | head
 x11-video-nvidia-1.0.9639-0.1 Sat 19 Jan 2008 17:33:25 GMT
 nvidia-gfx-kmp-default-1.0.9639_2.6.18.8_0.7-0.1 Sat 19 Jan 2008
 17:30:32 GMT
 xorg-x11-server-7.2-30.11 Sat 19 Jan 2008 17:15:05 GMT


 Restart X (i.e. logout and login again) ...
 And we're right back to

 $ glxinfo
 name of display: :0.0
 Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
 Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
 Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
 Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual

 $ grep glx /var/log/Xorg.0.log
 (II) LoadModule: glx
 (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/updates/extensions//libglx.so
 dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/updates/extensions//libglx.so: undefined
 symbol: _nv69gl
 (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/updates/extensions//libglx.so
 (II) UnloadModule: glx
 (EE) Failed to load module glx (loader failed, 7)


 At this point I /really/ don't know what I'm doing wrong.



 Regards,
 Chris R.

OK, I thought you used the shar from NVIDIA like me. The missing symbol is 
in /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1 (symlink) in my system, so X finds the wrong file 
in your case. Try searching for other occurrences of libGLcore.so and 
removing them.

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[opensuse] AHCI / NCQ problem

2008-01-19 Thread Nick Zeljkovic
Hi,

I’m having problems activating NCQ on Asus P5B-MX , Seagate Barracuda
ST3250410AS (250GB) with Opensuse 10.3 installed.
Before installation I’ve set in BIOS Enhanced IDE configuration for S-ATA
mode (from my understanding that enables advanced features like NCQ),
installed the system no problem. After first boot I’ve noticed ahci driver
wasn’t loaded, only ata_piix, so I’ve edited /etc/sysconfig/kernel and added
ahci before ata_piix driver, rebuilt initrd, edited modprobe.conf and
replaced ata_piix occurrences with ahci. 
Original line:
# ata_piix can't handle ICH6 in AHCI mode
install ata_piix /sbin/modprobe ahci 21 |:; /sbin/modprobe
--ignore-install ata_piix

My line:
# ata_piix can't handle ICH6 in AHCI mode
install ahci /sbin/modprobe ahci 21 |:; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install
ahci

After reboot I saw ahci loaded under libata but after ata_piix
libata | ata_piix, ahci

and actually used was ata_piix despite being loaded first. I’ve then:
# dmesg|grep NCQ

And got a line back like:

ata3.00: ATA-7, 321672960 sectors: LBA48 NCQ (depth 0/32)

# echo 31  /sys/block/sda/device/queue_depth

resulted in permission denied. (as I found on linux-ata FAQ) Further reading
on linux-ata FAQ says:
“If the line containing the sector count and maximum UDMA speed does not
mention NCQ, your drive does not support it.”
I’m puzzled since I have UDMA showing on:
# dmesg|grep ata3

Which displays all disk info, and “NCQ (depth 0/32)” would mean NCQ is
present but disabled.
 
From what I can see disk should support NCQ and I was informed by person who
sold it to me that it was NCQ ready. (I specifically wanted NCQ disk).

I don’t know if I’m making a mistake somewhere or disk just doesn’t support
it. I’m in for some help please!

P.S. Yes I’ve rebooted ;)

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[opensuse] kipi-plugins and libkdcraw.so.1

2008-01-19 Thread Marc Chamberlin
Hi -  I am using SuSE10.2 and Yast Software updater is having troubles 
on a dependency resolution for kipi-plugins. Says


Unresolved dependencies:
Updating kipi-plugins-0.1.2-26.x86_64[System packages] to 
kipi-plugins-0.1.4-100.pm.2.x86_64[20080111-102132]
There are no installable providers of libkdcraw.so.1()(64bit) for 
kipi-plugins-0.1.4-100.pm.2.x86_64[20080111-102132]


So what does this ol user do about this? Ideas/help as always much 
appreciated!


  Marc


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Re: [opensuse] Re: No sound in 10.3, but it work in 10.0

2008-01-19 Thread Lutz Maibaum
On Friday 18 January 2008 12:28:06 David C. Rankin wrote:
 Lutz Maibaum wrote:
  ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 5
  PCI: setting IRQ 5 as level-triggered
  ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:1f.3[B] - Link [LNKB] - GSI 5 (level,
  low) - IRQ 5
  ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:1f.5[B] - Link [LNKB] - GSI 5 (level,
  low) - IRQ 5
  ACPI: PCI interrupt for device :00:1f.5 disabled
 
  The device 00:1f.5 is the sound card, according to lspci.

 Try booting with APIC (Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller)
 turned off _not_ ACPI. At boot, enter noapic nolapic. noapic is just
 no apic nolapic is no local apic.

Thank you for the suggestion, David. I tried booting both with noapic 
nolapic and in failsafe mode, but both the error message and the symptom 
remain.

Looking through the dmesg output under 10.0, where sound works fine, I saw 
that there the device 00:1f.3 (SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM SMBus 
Controller (rev 02)) does not have an IRQ associated with it, so that the 
sound card 00:1f.5 (Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 
82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)) doesn't have to share it. 
Does that give anybody any clues?

  Lutz
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Re: [opensuse] Trying to use TLS with Fetchmail

2008-01-19 Thread Patrick Shanahan
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 I would like to fetch my mail from gmail using fetchmail. But one of
 the requisites gmail pop is to use TLS and share Certs.
 As i can see fetchmail package from OpenSuSe 10.3 doesn't allow to use
 TLS. Is there other package to install.
 It will be nice if i don't have to compile fetchmail to enable this.

fetchmail uses ssl, just add ssl to your options:

poll pop.gmail.com tracepolls with proto POP3 timeout 45
   user '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' there with password 'password' is 'user' here 
options fetchall stripcr ssl
 mda '/usr/lib/sendmail -i -oem -f %F %T'

   

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[opensuse] Change in 10.3/KDE file browser?

2008-01-19 Thread Tom Patton

The KDE mediamanager is not running.

system:///media/sr0 cannot be found.


The above msg box pops when attempting to dis-mount any of the hot-plug
media (cd, usb-stick, etc), when using fvwm as manager, and konqueror as
the file browser.
mtab says:

/dev/sr0 /media/Nov\04015\0402006 iso9660
ro,nosuid,nodev,noatime,uid=1000,utf8 0 0


I do have a full kde install, but most users here prefer fvwm, for
speed.  This worked fine in 10.2.  In 10.3, I can obviously mount
devices/media, but unless I am logged in on KDE3, they will not eject.

From CLI, only root is able to umount /media/Nov\04015\0402006
or /dev/sr0 even though it looks to be mounted by me (uid=1000)

Again, if in KDE, it all works fine, and the kids can cycle cdroms or
sticks without hassle...or calling me for help.

I have searched for the kde mediamanager, and haven't found it
mentioned in the rpm queries or as a system run service...but it IS
working IF I start a kde session.  Weird?

Any clue why this changed in 10.3, or am I missing something obvious
here...

Thanks!
Tom in NM




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Re: [opensuse] encrypting your home partition

2008-01-19 Thread Joe Sloan
PerfectReign wrote:

 There is no thread.

The oracle will see you now.
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[opensuse] Mic not working with 10.3 64bit

2008-01-19 Thread Marcin Floryan
Hi!

I have been struggling entire day today to get my sound card up and
running properly but with not luck. Running openSuSE 10.3 on AMD x64
on acer Aspire notebook. The sound output works perfectly OK but I
struggle to get my microphone working. Initially I assumed it was
Skype problem but then tried recording sound with krec and it fails as
well.

The sound card is (lspci):
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High
Definition Audio Controller (rev 02) [8086:27d8 (rev 02)]

And as it has been properly discovered by yast2 sound I am using Intel
HDA driver module

Because it is on Acer Aspire 5630 I have altered /etc/modprobe.d/sound
to be the following:

alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
# u1Nb.FPeEl_lypDB:82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller
options snd-hda-intel enable=1 index=0 model=acer

And it works OK:

kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:1b.0[A] - GSI 22 (level, low) - IRQ 22
kernel: PCI: Setting latency timer of device :00:1b.0 to 64
kernel: ALSA 
/usr/src/packages/BUILD/alsa-driver-hg20080118/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:2212:
hda_codec: model 'acer' is selected

As you can see the driver is also pretty up to date.

I could not find many more clues for this specific problem as the card
generally works and I have output via speakers/headphones. The most
obvious would be to look in the mixer settings for Input but I have
double-checked that levels are set to maximum and Mic and Capture is
ON. I can also check the the mic itself works because if I go to
Output mixer controls and turn the Mic on I can hear it well in the
headphones (but that presumably only enables internal sound card
routing of the signal).

In the input channels I have:
* Front Mic Boost
* Mic Boost
* Capture
* Capture
* Digital

Though both Capture are enabled the level on it is always at the
minimum but even if I turn it up and reopen the mixer it resets to
zero.

Any clues someone? I don't know where to look now.

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Re: [opensuse] libglx.so: undefined symbol: _nv000069gl [Solved]

2008-01-19 Thread Chris Ross


[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
OK, I thought you used the shar from NVIDIA like me. The missing symbol is 
in /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1 (symlink) in my system, so X finds the wrong file 
in your case. Try searching for other occurrences of libGLcore.so and 
removing them.


Well, let's see...

$ locate libGLcore.so
/usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1
/usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1.0
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so

First up...

rpm -qf /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1.0
Mesa-6.5.1-23

...interesting - it's Mesa, not NVidia, which explains why it's missing 
the symbol _nv69gl


rpm -qf /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so
xorg-x11-server-7.2-30.11

OK, that's good.


Looking in more detail at the Mesa one then...

rpm -qif /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1.0
Name: Mesa Relocations: (not relocatable)
Version : 6.5.1 Vendor: SUSE LINUX
Products GmbH, Nuernberg, Germany
Release : 23Build Date: Mon 27 Nov 2006
18:59:28 GMT
Install Date: Sun 24 Dec 2006 13:59:56 GMT  Build Host: tux.suse.de
Group   : System/Libraries  Source RPM:
Mesa-6.5.1-23.src.rpm
Size: 38939248 License: X11/MIT
Signature   : DSA/SHA1, Mon 27 Nov 2006 19:05:00 GMT, Key ID
a84edae89c800aca
Packager: http://bugs.opensuse.org
URL : http://www.mesa3d.org
Summary : Mesa is a 3-D graphics library with an API which is very
similar to that of OpenGL.*

[... snip ...]


Curious. Installed in 2006, so uninstalling X earlier today apparently
didn't uninstall it?

By your reckoning then there should be a libGLcore installed by the
NVidia RPMs?

$ rpm -qa --list *nvidia* | grep GLcore
/usr/X11R6/lib/libGLcore.so.1
/usr/X11R6/lib/libGLcore.so.1.0.9639

Uh-huh..

$ ls -lh /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLcore*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   21 2008-01-19 17:33
/usr/X11R6/lib/libGLcore.so.1 - libGLcore.so.1.0.9639
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8.6M 2007-12-08 14:07
/usr/X11R6/lib/libGLcore.so.1.0.9639

Yep, and there they are (obviously need an updatedb since reinstalling).

So, presumably XOrg is loading the wrong one - i.e.
/usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1 instead of /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLcore.so.1
I'm inclined to think that at least one of installing X.Org then the
NVidia drivers and finally enabling 3D acceleration in SaX should have
fixed that, and even more puzzled about what happened to change the fact
that it has been working for yonks and now doesn't. Nevermind, given
that uninstalling X didn't uninstall Mesa I guess it's an orphan 
(especially as xorg-x11-server provides the same library at 
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so) so I'll

go uninstall it now.

[time passes]... Apparently not, YaST tells me the list of things that 
would break is as long as your arm. Shame it doesn't tell you what they 
are -- e.g. the information that deleting this will break /ogre/ makes 
what the bleep is 'ogre'? Maybe I do want to delete it too, maybe I 
don't! a very relevant question at that point, but YaST doesn't tell 
you. Maybe that's fixed in 10.3? Nevermind, there's more than enough 
stuff in the list that I *know* I do want to keep.


OK, so no deleting Mesa. Hmm, how about messing up ld.so.conf such that
/usr/X11R6/lib/ comes before /usr/lib/ (which really feels *wrong* to
me) and hopefully the X server will just happen get the right 
libGLcore.so first...


More time passes... and ... BINGO!

Finally we have

$ glxinfo
name of display: :0.0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4

Excellent! So many thanks for your help, which really got me pointed in 
the right direction. I definitely owe you a beer! And a raspberry to 
YaST which really should have sorted it out :(


It still feels wrong that when an arbitrary program wants to load a 
shared library it should look in the X Window directories before looking 
the standard libraries place, nor do I know how it got broken, but 
whatever. At least the kids can play games again.



Many thanks,
Chris R.
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Re: [opensuse] libglx.so: undefined symbol: _nv000069gl [Solved]

2008-01-19 Thread Philipp Thomas
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:29:42 +, Chris Ross wrote:

[time passes]... Apparently not, YaST tells me the list of things that 
would break is as long as your arm.

For *running* applications your system should use the nvidia OpenGL libs
as you need them for accelerated 3D. For *building* apps, the Mesa libs
should be used as otherwise those applications won't run without nvidia
libraries which obviously you don't want.

are -- e.g. the information that deleting this will break /ogre/ makes 

Just try deleting the package manually with rpm and it will give you the
names that you can then again feed into rpm to get info on the packages.
 
/usr/X11R6/lib/ comes before /usr/lib/ (which really feels *wrong* to
me)

You mean the precedence? That's not really astonishing.

BTW, you needn't remove the mesa libraries, just make sure there is only
one libGLcore.so.1 symlink that points to  the nvidia library and all
should be well.

Philipp
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Re: [opensuse] libglx.so: undefined symbol: _nv000069gl

2008-01-19 Thread peter

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Chris Ross schrieb:

| At this point I /really/ don't know what I'm doing wrong.

I had a similar problem today.
Unfortunately some time ago I had have updated the
NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.09-pkg1.run driver by the driver from
http:/download.nvidia.com//opensuse/10.3

Thus got some time issues while compiling programs (today was it the
libquicktime) due to having some nvidia libs twice.

I've solved it by:
- - Downloading d the current driver:
wget - c
http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/169.07/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.07-pkg1.run
- - Switching to init 3
- - Staring yast and removing nvidia repo drivers
- - Installing the previously downloaded driver. (The clue is, that this
driver cleans your system out of nvidia redundancies.) You need the
kernel-source installed and configured, coz the installer probably will
compile the modules for you.

Then I've rebooted the system, coz I did not want to start sax2.
Then compiled libquicktime. All went like a charm.

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Re: [opensuse] libglx.so: undefined symbol: _nv000069gl

2008-01-19 Thread Joe Sloan
peter wrote:

 I've solved it by:
 - Downloading d the current driver:
 wget - c
 http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/169.07/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.07-pkg1.run
 
 - Switching to init 3
 - Staring yast and removing nvidia repo drivers
 - Installing the previously downloaded driver. (The clue is, that this
 driver cleans your system out of nvidia redundancies.) You need the
 kernel-source installed and configured, coz the installer probably will
 compile the modules for you.
 
 Then I've rebooted the system, coz I did not want to start sax2.
 Then compiled libquicktime. All went like a charm.

I was with you until you rebooted (?!)

I've done the same nvidia driver thing, but always without rebooting.
Perhaps I've been away from microsoft for too long, and gotten out of
the habit...

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Re: [opensuse] libglx.so: undefined symbol: _nv000069gl

2008-01-19 Thread peter

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Joe Sloan schrieb:

| I was with you until you rebooted (?!)

| I've done the same nvidia driver thing, but always without rebooting.
| Perhaps I've been away from microsoft for too long, and gotten out of
| the habit...

ROTFL

Well there is no need to reboot.
You can run 'sax2 -r -m 0=nvidia' in order to activate the module, but
I do edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manually and sax always messing up with
it. Thus I'm rebooting or if running sax then backing up my xorg.conf
first. Today I've just preferred to reboot. ;)


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Re: [opensuse] libglx.so: undefined symbol: _nv000069gl

2008-01-19 Thread Andrei Verovski (aka MacGuru)
Hi, Chris,

I had the same problem in the past. Would you please tell us how you have 
solved this problem?

I solved this by means by installing original nvidia rpms, but I do not think 
it is really good solution since the cause of this problem is unknown.


 Suddenly, from Sunday afternoon, I'm not getting 3D accelleration from my
 nvidia card even though it is installed and enabled. In the Xorg.0.log I'm
 seeing the following

 (II) LoadModule: glx
 (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/updates/extensions//libglx.so
 dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/updates/extensions//libglx.so: undefined
 symbol: _nv69gl (EE) Failed to load
 /usr/lib/xorg/modules/updates/extensions//libglx.so (II) UnloadModule:
 glx
 (EE) Failed to load module glx (loader failed, 7)


 I have tried reinstalling x11-video-nvidia and nvidia-gfx-kmp-default but
 it doesn't seemed to have helped. Has anyone else seen this?

 Many thanks,
 Chris R.

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Re: [opensuse] Mic not working with 10.3 64bit

2008-01-19 Thread clarkt
 Hi!

 I have been struggling entire day today to get my sound card up and
 running properly but with not luck. Running openSuSE 10.3 on AMD x64
 on acer Aspire notebook. The sound output works perfectly OK but I
 struggle to get my microphone working. Initially I assumed it was
 Skype problem but then tried recording sound with krec and it fails as
 well.

 The sound card is (lspci):
 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High
 Definition Audio Controller (rev 02) [8086:27d8 (rev 02)]

 And as it has been properly discovered by yast2 sound I am using Intel
 HDA driver module

 Because it is on Acer Aspire 5630 I have altered /etc/modprobe.d/sound
 to be the following:

 alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
 # u1Nb.FPeEl_lypDB:82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller
 options snd-hda-intel enable=1 index=0 model=acer

 And it works OK:

 kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:1b.0[A] - GSI 22 (level, low) - IRQ
 22
 kernel: PCI: Setting latency timer of device :00:1b.0 to 64
 kernel: ALSA
 /usr/src/packages/BUILD/alsa-driver-hg20080118/pci/hda/hda_codec.c:2212:
 hda_codec: model 'acer' is selected

 As you can see the driver is also pretty up to date.

 I could not find many more clues for this specific problem as the card
 generally works and I have output via speakers/headphones. The most
 obvious would be to look in the mixer settings for Input but I have
 double-checked that levels are set to maximum and Mic and Capture is
 ON. I can also check the the mic itself works because if I go to
 Output mixer controls and turn the Mic on I can hear it well in the
 headphones (but that presumably only enables internal sound card
 routing of the signal).

 In the input channels I have:
 * Front Mic Boost
 * Mic Boost
 * Capture
 * Capture
 * Digital

 Though both Capture are enabled the level on it is always at the
 minimum but even if I turn it up and reopen the mixer it resets to
 zero.

 Any clues someone? I don't know where to look now.

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Check the Alsa web site.  I believe that is a bug report there.

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[opensuse] Replacing an icon on the desktop

2008-01-19 Thread Stan Goodman
I have on the desktop some Java programs which are displayed as generic icons.
I have much better icons, or can make, much more intuitive icons for these. How
must I go about replacing one for the other?

What, if anything, must I do to convert Windows or OS/2 icons for use in the
Llinux desktop?

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Re: [opensuse] libglx.so: undefined symbol: _nv000069gl [Solved]

2008-01-19 Thread Chris Ross


Philipp Thomas escreveu:

For *running* applications your system should use the nvidia OpenGL libs
as you need them for accelerated 3D. For *building* apps, the Mesa libs
should be used as otherwise those applications won't run without nvidia
libraries which obviously you don't want.


Agreed, completely.


Just try deleting the package manually with rpm and it will give you the
names that you can then again feed into rpm to get info on the packages.


Again, agreed, but I obviously didn't make my point clearly.

It goes like this:

Me: YaST, please delete this thing.
	YaST:	Certainly Sir, but deleting that will break this other thing. Do 
you want me to delete that too?

Me: Err, what is it?

Of course you /can/ cancel then go back and find out what the other 
thing is, then delete the first thing again, then next time it asks you 
answer the question sensibly. Or even select /both/ things for deletion 
in the first place. I just think it would be nice if YaST gave you the 
opportunity to find what the other thing is at the point at which it's 
asking what you want to do about it.




/usr/X11R6/lib/ comes before /usr/lib/ (which really feels *wrong* to
me)


You mean the precedence? That's not really astonishing.


It's a hackish way of making sure X picks the right instance of the 
shared library. If you have an application that needs 
/a/b/c/libSomething.so.1 *and* some other application that needs 
/d/e/f/libSomething.so.1 then *one* of those applications *will* be 
broken by this.


In fact, even now I can't *know* that something else isn't now broken on 
my machine because it'll get the X Window version of something instead 
of the version in the standard location. I assume that's not the case 
because the directories must have been listed in this order in 
ld.so.conf previously for 3D acceleration to have been working before.


Regards,
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Re: [opensuse] libglx.so: undefined symbol: _nv000069gl

2008-01-19 Thread David C. Rankin

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Suddenly, from Sunday afternoon, I'm not getting 3D accelleration from my nvidia card even though it is installed and 
enabled. In the Xorg.0.log I'm seeing the following


(II) LoadModule: glx
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/updates/extensions//libglx.so
dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/updates/extensions//libglx.so: undefined symbol: 
_nv69gl
(EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/updates/extensions//libglx.so
(II) UnloadModule: glx
(EE) Failed to load module glx (loader failed, 7)


I have tried reinstalling x11-video-nvidia and nvidia-gfx-kmp-default but it doesn't seemed to have helped. Has anyone 
else seen this?


Many thanks,
Chris R.



Chris,

	I lost acceleration on my nvidia card as well after the update a week 
or so ago. re-enabling aiglx solved the problem:


http://en.opensuse.org/AIGLX

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Re: [opensuse] Re: No sound in 10.3, but it work in 10.0

2008-01-19 Thread Philipp Thomas
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 10:42:42 -0800, Lutz Maibaum wrote:

On Friday 18 January 2008 12:28:06 David C. Rankin wrote:
 Lutz Maibaum wrote:
  ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 5
  PCI: setting IRQ 5 as level-triggered
  ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:1f.3[B] - Link [LNKB] - GSI 5 (level,
  low) - IRQ 5
  ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:1f.5[B] - Link [LNKB] - GSI 5 (level,
  low) - IRQ 5
  ACPI: PCI interrupt for device :00:1f.5 disabled
 
  The device 00:1f.5 is the sound card, according to lspci.

Does that give anybody any clues?

Do open a bugreport on https://bugzilla.novell.com . I guess that's the
easiest way to get competent answers.

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Re: [opensuse] Easy backup for home users

2008-01-19 Thread Joe Morris (NTM)

On 01/20/2008 07:50 AM, Ciro Iriarte wrote:

Hi, wouldn't it be a nice idea to include a tool similar to the Time
Machine feature from OSX in Opensuse?, is there any project about
that?.

Home users would be really happy to recover a snapshot of a file they
deleted accidentaly. I know there's rsync (I use it myself), but i'm
talking about easy of use.

There are some projects already working like Flyback and TimeVault.
  
For versioned backups, I use storebackup.  Once configured, it is really 
a no brainer.  It runs from cron.daily, uses compression and hard links 
to make it super space efficient.  Here at home (smaller needs and 
partition space) I have it keep 3 days worth backed up.  At work, I now 
have it keeping 40 days worth of each file.  It works very well for me.


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[opensuse] Easy backup for home users

2008-01-19 Thread Ciro Iriarte
Hi, wouldn't it be a nice idea to include a tool similar to the Time
Machine feature from OSX in Opensuse?, is there any project about
that?.

Home users would be really happy to recover a snapshot of a file they
deleted accidentaly. I know there's rsync (I use it myself), but i'm
talking about easy of use.

There are some projects already working like Flyback and TimeVault.

Regards,
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Re: [opensuse] Replacing an icon on the desktop

2008-01-19 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Saturday 19 January 2008 14:53, Stan Goodman wrote:
 I have on the desktop some Java programs which are displayed as
 generic icons. I have much better icons, or can make, much more
 intuitive icons for these. How must I go about replacing one for the
 other?

You don't say whether you're using KDE or Gnome. I can give you the KDE 
answer (Gnome is probably similar, but I can readily confirm that 
supposition or give any real details).


The GUI way:

Right click on the desktop icon in question. From the pop-menu that 
appears, select Properties (the last item in the menu). In the 
resulting dialog there are several tabs. Initially you see the General 
tab, and on that tab is the currently assigned icon. This is a button. 
Click it and the system will present you with a window holding all the 
icons known to KDE at the moment (System icons). You can pick one of 
these or switch to Other icons. When you do that (select Other icons) 
the Browse... button will be enabled. Click that and you can use the 
resulting file system browsing dialog to locate the icon file you want 
to use or you can simply paste the absolute path name of that file into 
the Location field.


The text editor way:

Edit the desktop icon file (a text file) which by definition resides in 
~/Desktop. By default, the file name is the same as the icon title with 
the suffix .desktop appended, but if you change the display name of 
the icon, the file name stays the same. In that file you should see a 
line that starts with Icon=. The rest of that line is the absolute 
path name to the icon file. Replace it with the one you want to use. If 
there's no such line, add one.


 What, if anything, must I do to convert Windows or OS/2 icons for use
 in the Llinux desktop?

KDE can use PNG, JPEG, GIF, XPM, SVG and .ico files. Probably you can 
just use whatever you've got.

NOTE: The browser referred to in The GUI way above will only show PNG, 
XPM and SVG (including compressed SVG files with a .svgz suffix). But 
you can enter files of the other formats I mentioned, too. I rarely 
bother with the browsing bit, since I have scripts I use in the shell 
to copy the absolute path name of any file I choose to the clipboard.


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Re: [opensuse] Gimp and Firefox

2008-01-19 Thread Philipp Thomas
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:28:22 +0100, peter wrote:

Consider what would happen to Apple sells if Adobe would perform such a
port.

To be frank, I'd say it wont do much. My observations tell me that most
Apple users in the arts and ad business have no interest in Linux.

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Re: Email Threading (WAS: Re: [opensuse] encrypting your home partition)

2008-01-19 Thread Mike Diehl
I find it interesting that there were more responses on the topic of email 
threading than there were for the original question.

I'll bet we get about 4 more posts because I top-posted.  Can't we cut each 
other some slack?

On Saturday 19 January 2008 10:10:32 am Carlos E. R. wrote:
 The Saturday 2008-01-19 at 08:48 -0800, PerfectReign wrote:
  On Sat, January 19, 2008 7:11 am, Philipp Thomas wrote:
  On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 06:18:51 -0800 (PST), PerfectReign wrote:
  This is email. There is no thread.
 
  Either you simply forgot a smiley or I don't get it. Of cause there
  are
  mail threads. What do you think In-Reply-To and References in the mail
  header were invented for?
 
  Yes, there are those wannabe MUAs such as Outlook, Groupwise and Notes
  that constantly ignore the existence of In-Reply-To, but that's a
  different story.
 
  My apologies. I forgot that you can thread emails on KMail.

 All decent mail programs do thread. Thunderbird, Mozilla, Kmail, even text
 only clients like Pine or mutt. Gmail web client does thread, but it calls
 it conversations.

 And the archive is threaded.

 Even Outlook does thread:

X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0
Thread-Index: AchZxUFbeX4hpExoQh2zru0l/TqnbgAAC2AA

 Although being Microsoft, it uses something else instead of the standard.



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Re: [opensuse] Always mount a USB drive with NTFS-3G?

2008-01-19 Thread Carlos E. R.

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So is that something like?:

LABEL=WD_Passport /media/WD_Passport ntfs-3g defaults 0 0


Exactly - provided ntfs labels are supported.


Does it matter what the /media mount point is named?


Not really, as long as it exists.

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Re: [opensuse] Trying to use TLS with Fetchmail

2008-01-19 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Saturday 2008-01-19 at 10:44 -0500, Manuel Mely wrote:


I would like to fetch my mail from gmail using fetchmail. But one of
the requisites gmail pop is to use TLS and share Certs.
As i can see fetchmail package from OpenSuSe 10.3 doesn't allow to use
TLS. Is there other package to install.


Huh? Fetchmail as it comes in suse works fine with gmail, both with pop3 
or imap. The keyword is ssl.


poll imap.gmail.com with interval 2 proto imap timeout 50, and tracepolls
user [EMAIL PROTECTED], with password PASSWORD, is LOCAL here, 
fetchlimit 250 and ssl


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Re: Email Threading (WAS: Re: [opensuse] encrypting your home partition)

2008-01-19 Thread Rajko M.
On Saturday 19 January 2008 06:21:14 pm Mike Diehl wrote:
 I find it interesting that there were more responses on the topic of email
 threading than there were for the original question.

 I'll bet we get about 4 more posts because I top-posted.  Can't we cut each
 other some slack?

We can, but than we have to change 
  http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette

We had discussions in a few very long threads on what is acceptable and what 
not. The article is merely describing common ground that most of the users 
find comfortable. 

You will understand that some guys use accessability features of openSUSE 
software, like screen reader and magnifier. Threading and bottom posting is 
sorting emails and makes reading effortless. 

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Re: [opensuse] KitchenSync

2008-01-19 Thread Kevin Dupuy
On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 19:20 -0500, Chris Arnold wrote:
 I use 10.3 with kde 3.5.7 and have a Moto Q that i want to sync contact etc. 
 I 
 have kitchensync installed along with the plugin-moto. It does not look like 
 i am able to sync as nothing happens when i hit sync. I first started the 
 app and made a group called Moto Q and then added a member, which is the moto 
 sync plugin gave it a name and it also asks for a Device String, which i 
 left blank as i do not know what is suppose to go there. Can someone help me 
 sync my crap Q phone using kitchensync?

Hey!
I don't have a Q or use KDE, but what OS does the Q run? Windows Mobile?
If so, I don't know very many folks that have successfully synced a
Windows Mobile device with Linux.

Hopefully it can be done. Good luck ;-)
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Re: [opensuse] Desktop search alternatives

2008-01-19 Thread Kevin Dupuy
On Sat, 2008-01-19 at 13:05 +0100, Philippe Landau wrote:
 I waited years in anticipation of beagle.
 Then finally on OpenSuse 10.3 when i tried to use it
 i found it took a long time to find and list results
 and i saw no way of having it list results with
 the search words in the file name listed on top,
 giving those results more weight or relevance rating.
 
 This was especially disappointing when comparing with
 online search engines searching through billions of
 documents and often listing highly relevant results
 within fractions of seconds ...
 
 I am a full time researcher so searching files is
 something i do often, both full text and file names.
 Beagle is so slow that i disabled it,
 so i was glad when under the subject of Why beagle
 others expressed the shortcomings.
 
 Konqueror Ctrl-f is still buggy in it's handling
 of what you do with listed files, lacks basic features
 like open parent directory, requires users to know
 grep when searching for partial matches or more then one word,
 only searches one partition at a time.
 And i never managed to use properties like file size successfully.
 Unfortunately this did not change in KDE4's dolphin.
 Konqueror's Filter This Folder does not search in sub-directories.
 
 What is your experience with desktop search alternatives ?
 Can you recommend affinity-search, doodle,
 strigi (strigiclient), others ?
 
 Kind regards Philippe

Without becoming another Why Beagle thread, let me address a couple of
things:
1. Online search engines have millions of dollars worth of computer
power. We don't ;-)

As for alternatives: Ubuntu uses Tracker. I used it for a little, not
BAD, but a little limited in functionality.
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Re: [opensuse] KitchenSync

2008-01-19 Thread Chris Arnold
Hey!
Hi

I don't have a Q or use KDE, but what OS does the Q run? Windows Mobile?
Yep, WM5

If so, I don't know very many folks that have successfully synced a
Windows Mobile device with Linux.
I am finding it that it may not work

Hopefully it can be done. Good luck ;-)
I hope so. Still trying
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Re: Email Threading (WAS: Re: [opensuse] encrypting your home partition)

2008-01-19 Thread Bryen

On Sat, 2008-01-19 at 20:54 -0600, Rajko M. wrote:
 On Saturday 19 January 2008 06:21:14 pm Mike Diehl wrote:
  I find it interesting that there were more responses on the topic of email
  threading than there were for the original question.
 
  I'll bet we get about 4 more posts because I top-posted.  Can't we cut each
  other some slack?
 
 We can, but than we have to change 
   http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette
 
 We had discussions in a few very long threads on what is acceptable and what 
 not. The article is merely describing common ground that most of the users 
 find comfortable. 
 
 You will understand that some guys use accessability features of openSUSE 
 software, like screen reader and magnifier. Threading and bottom posting is 
 sorting emails and makes reading effortless. 
 
Interesting you should say that.  I'm a low-vision user myself.  Over on
blind-user mailing lists, like the GNOME Orca mailing list, they choose
top-posting.  I've never seen one email over there that was
bottom-posted.  And these people use devices such as braille readers,
audio screen readers, etc.

I'm always making a conscious decision.  If I'm posting on openSUSE...
follow the rules and bottom-post.  If I'm on the other mailing lists,
top-post.  :-)

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Re: Email Threading (WAS: Re: [opensuse] encrypting your home partition)

2008-01-19 Thread Rajko M.

Interesting. 
I don't have accessibility needs (if you don't count slow typing).

I just imagined that sorted mail in thread and text in chronological order 
will make use of audio screen readers easier. Though, now I know that it is 
easier to have last mail at the top and just jump from one mail to the other. 

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On Saturday 19 January 2008 09:36:54 pm Bryen wrote:
  You will understand that some guys use accessability features of openSUSE
  software, like screen reader and magnifier. Threading and bottom posting
  is sorting emails and makes reading effortless.

 Interesting you should say that.  I'm a low-vision user myself.  Over on
 blind-user mailing lists, like the GNOME Orca mailing list, they choose
 top-posting.  I've never seen one email over there that was
 bottom-posted.  And these people use devices such as braille readers,
 audio screen readers, etc.

 I'm always making a conscious decision.  If I'm posting on openSUSE...
 follow the rules and bottom-post.  If I'm on the other mailing lists,
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Re: [opensuse] Replacing an icon on the desktop

2008-01-19 Thread Stan Goodman
** Reply to message from Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sat, 19 Jan
2008 15:56:39 -0800


 On Saturday 19 January 2008 14:53, Stan Goodman wrote:
  I have on the desktop some Java programs which are displayed as
  generic icons. I have much better icons, or can make, much more
  intuitive icons for these. How must I go about replacing one for the
  other?
 
 You don't say whether you're using KDE or Gnome. I can give you the KDE 
 answer (Gnome is probably similar, but I can readily confirm that 
 supposition or give any real details).
 
 
 The GUI way:
 
 Right click on the desktop icon in question. From the pop-menu that 
 appears, select Properties (the last item in the menu). In the 
 resulting dialog there are several tabs. Initially you see the General 
 tab, and on that tab is the currently assigned icon. This is a button. 
 Click it and the system will present you with a window holding all the 
 icons known to KDE at the moment (System icons). You can pick one of 
 these or switch to Other icons. When you do that (select Other icons) 
 the Browse... button will be enabled. Click that and you can use the 
 resulting file system browsing dialog to locate the icon file you want 
 to use or you can simply paste the absolute path name of that file into 
 the Location field.
 
 
 The text editor way:
 
 Edit the desktop icon file (a text file) which by definition resides in 
 ~/Desktop. By default, the file name is the same as the icon title with 
 the suffix .desktop appended, but if you change the display name of 
 the icon, the file name stays the same. In that file you should see a 
 line that starts with Icon=. The rest of that line is the absolute 
 path name to the icon file. Replace it with the one you want to use. If 
 there's no such line, add one.
 
 
  What, if anything, must I do to convert Windows or OS/2 icons for use
  in the Llinux desktop?
 
 KDE can use PNG, JPEG, GIF, XPM, SVG and .ico files. Probably you can 
 just use whatever you've got.
 
 NOTE: The browser referred to in The GUI way above will only show PNG, 
 XPM and SVG (including compressed SVG files with a .svgz suffix). But 
 you can enter files of the other formats I mentioned, too. I rarely 
 bother with the browsing bit, since I have scripts I use in the shell 
 to copy the absolute path name of any file I choose to the clipboard.
 
 
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 Randall Schulz

Many thanks. I should have added that I'm using KDE.

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Re: [opensuse] Update to Gimp 2.4

2008-01-19 Thread Joseph Loo

On Sat, 2008-01-19 at 00:18 -0500, Fred A. Miller wrote:
 Joseph Loo wrote:
  I have been trying to udate to gimp.2.4. I am using Opensuse 10.3 with
  the AMD 64 bit version. Every time I try to use Yast to update, I get a
  dependency issue, with the pattern image. I am trying to figure out if
  it is worthwhile or there is a trick to do it without breaking too many
  things.
 
 Joe..never mind the openSUSE Gimp release. I uninstalled it, as it
 wasn't 2.4 (a couple of weeks ago) and d'l 2.4 from the Gimp site. ALL
 works fine.
 
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[opensuse] A useful and fun .bashrc welcome screen

2008-01-19 Thread David C. Rankin

Listmates,

	After finding some interesting information in the .bashrc tips at http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/tools/17142.html, 
I adapted the welcome screen idea to capture useful system information on login. I have to admit, the colors made it 
pretty cool. (I'm easily amused tonight)


	I pulled the useful information and created a separate welcome script that can be called as one of your last lines in 
.bashrc. The .bashrc call is tested against the terminal type and skipped if a 'dump' terminal type is used such as in 
the case of scp. It was a fun exercise that provided a bit of learning. For what it's worth, here is the call from .bashrc:


test dumb != $TERM  /home/david/linux/scripts/welcome

And, here is the welcome screen script:

#!/bin/bash
#
# Define the colors
#
black='\e[0;30m'
blue='\e[0;34m'
green='\e[0;32m'
cyan='\e[0;36m'
red='\e[0;31m'
purple='\e[0;35m'
brown='\e[0;33m'
lightgray='\e[0;37m'
darkgray='\e[1;30m'
lightblue='\e[1;34m'
lightgreen='\e[1;32m'
lightcyan='\e[1;36m'
lightred='\e[1;31m'
lightpurple='\e[1;35m'
yellow='\e[1;33m'
white='\e[1;37m'
nc='\e[0m'
#
# Get ifconfig information
#
netinfo ()
{
echo -- Network Information --
/sbin/ifconfig | awk /'inet addr/ {print $2}'
/sbin/ifconfig | awk /'Bcast/ {print $3}'
/sbin/ifconfig | awk /'inet addr/ {print $4}'
/sbin/ifconfig | awk /'HWaddr/ {print $4,$5}'
}
#
# Define a few functions
#
# Get the mounted drives and free space
#
mounted ()
{
echo  Mounted Drives -
df -h
}
#
# Check free memory
#
meminfo ()
{
echo -- Memory Information ---
free -tm
}
#
# Look at uptime
#
upinfo ()
{
echo --- Uptime --
echo 
echo -ne ${lightblue}Uptime for:${green} $HOSTNAME ${lightblue}is ${cyan};uptime | awk /'up/ {print 
$3,$4,$5,$6,$7,$8,$9,$10}'

}
#
# Show the Welcome Screen
#
clear
echo -e ${red}+${white} W E L C O M E  
${red}${nc}; echo 
echo -e ${lightblue}Host: \t\t\t ${cyan}$HOSTNAME
echo -ne ${lightblue}Operating System: \t${cyan} `cat /etc/SuSE-release`; echo 

echo -e ${lightblue}Kernel Information: \t${cyan} `uname -smr`
echo -ne ${lightblue}Hello ${lightred}$USER ${lightblue}today is: \t${cyan} `date`; echo 
; echo 
echo -e ${white}; cal -3
echo -ne ${cyan};netinfo; echo 
echo -ne ${green};mounted; echo 
echo -ne ${red};meminfo; echo 
echo -ne ${cyan};upinfo; echo 
echo -e ${red}+${white} www.rankinlawfirm.com 
${red}+${nc}\n

The screen output will look like this:

+ W E L C O M E  

Host:rankin-p35a
Operating System:openSUSE 10.3 (i586) VERSION = 10.3
Kernel Information:  Linux 2.6.22.13-0.3-default i686
Hello david today is:Sun Jan 20 00:14:52 CST 2008


   December 2007  January 2008 February 2008
Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa  Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa  Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa
   1 1  2  3  4  5  1  2
 2  3  4  5  6  7  8   6  7  8  9 10 11 12   3  4  5  6  7  8  9
 9 10 11 12 13 14 15  13 14 15 16 17 18 19  10 11 12 13 14 15 16
16 17 18 19 20 21 22  20 21 22 23 24 25 26  17 18 19 20 21 22 23
23 24 25 26 27 28 29  27 28 29 30 3124 25 26 27 28 29
30 31
-- Network Information --
addr:192.168.6.101
addr:127.0.0.1
Bcast:192.168.6.255
Mask:255.255.255.0

HWaddr 00:11:F5:15:2D:83
HWaddr 00:02:3F:DC:E3:3C
HWaddr 00-11-F5-15-2D-83-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00

 Mounted Drives -
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda6  15G  7.5G  6.6G  54% /
udev  506M   88K  506M   1% /dev
/dev/sda7  51G  2.9G   45G   6% /home
/dev/sda1  43G   23G   20G  54% /windows/C
//nemesis/samba   233G   31G  203G  14% /mnt/nemesis
//nemesis/david   233G   31G  203G  14% /mnt/nemesis-david
//nemesis/config  233G   31G  203G  14% /mnt/nemesis-cfg
//kidsdell/config  17G  5.6G  9.8G  37% /mnt/kids-cfg

-- Memory Information ---
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:  1011992 18  0104426
-/+ buffers/cache:461549
Swap: 2055  0   2055
Total:3066992   2073

--- Uptime --

Uptime for: rankin-p35a is 13:57, 4 users, load average: 0.08, 0.11, 0.14

+ www.rankinlawfirm.com +

	I'm sure there are better ways to do all of this, but it filled the idle time watching the kids. Also, with the number 
of different boxes I 

[opensuse] install info request

2008-01-19 Thread Chris H
Greets:

Currently test/playing with 11.1 and I ran into a snag with the install 
process. The test system has two nics, one standard nic e100 and a D-Link 
Airplus G DWL-G520 which is supported(pci atheros). The current network is 
setup on wireless only. 

The issues is that I can load all the needed drivers for the G520  but only 
after DHCP fails on eth0. Yast does give me the options to load either the 
e100 or G520 while using text mode but DHCP is already assigned at this point 
in the install process to eth0 and thus fails when selecting G520  

Is there a way that I can load the needed modules for both the card and the 
wireless stack at boot time or alternatively prior to the install sequence 
detecting and associating DHCP with eth0. 

Alternatively is there a way to reassociate DHCP with the G520 once all the 
modules are loaded.  Using yast in text mode for testing. 

regards and thanks for any info

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Re: [opensuse] A useful and fun .bashrc welcome screen

2008-01-19 Thread Rodney Baker
On Sunday 20 January 2008 17:01:41 David C. Rankin wrote:
 Listmates,

   After finding some interesting information in the .bashrc tips at
 http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/tools/17142.html, I adapted the welcome
 screen idea to capture useful system information on login. I have to admit,
 the colors made it pretty cool. (I'm easily amused tonight)
[...]

Thanks for sharing this David. I gave it a try on my system at home but it 
threw a syntax error on the following line...
 echo -ne ${lightblue}Uptime for:${green} $HOSTNAME ${lightblue}is
 ${cyan};uptime | awk /'up/ {print $3,$4,$5,$6,$7,$8,$9,$10}'
 }

Not being familiar with awk, I played around a bit but ended up just deleting 
everything from the pipe onwards.

Very useful script though. Thanks again.

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Re: [opensuse-packaging] Release Request for THEMONOSPOT application

2008-01-19 Thread Krzysztof Kotlenga
hman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi, i'm an italian openSUSE user and also developer.
  I would like to add my project :
  http://www.integrazioneweb.com/themonospot
 
  to official openSUSE repository.

You probably won't be allowed to do so, because this would mean that
you have to maintain your package for years[1] and even if you're
willing to, you won't get a chance because non-suse employees with no
reputation probably won't get access beyond Build Service[2]. This
is opensuse openness. I'd like to be proved wrong.

[1] http://en.opensuse.org/SUSE_Linux_Lifetime
[2] https://build.opensuse.org/

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Re: [opensuse-packaging] Release Request for THEMONOSPOT application

2008-01-19 Thread Bernhard Walle
* Krzysztof Kotlenga [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-19 10:51]:
 
 You probably won't be allowed to do so, because this would mean that
 you have to maintain your package for years[1] and even if you're
 willing to, you won't get a chance because non-suse employees with no
 reputation probably won't get access beyond Build Service[2]. This
 is opensuse openness. I'd like to be proved wrong.

Currently, this is true, but the Buildservice is a very good start for
a new program! (I have also some packages only in the BS and not in
the main distribution.)


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Re: [opensuse-packaging] Release Request for THEMONOSPOT application

2008-01-19 Thread hman
many thanks, i'm going to use it

2008/1/19, Bernhard Walle [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 * Krzysztof Kotlenga [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-19 10:51]:
 
  You probably won't be allowed to do so, because this would mean that
  you have to maintain your package for years[1] and even if you're
  willing to, you won't get a chance because non-suse employees with no
  reputation probably won't get access beyond Build Service[2]. This
  is opensuse openness. I'd like to be proved wrong.

 Currently, this is true, but the Buildservice is a very good start for
 a new program! (I have also some packages only in the BS and not in
 the main distribution.)


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[opensuse-packaging] OBS package release number default package release number... bug?

2008-01-19 Thread Christian Morales Vega
There are some packages in the openSUSE Build Service that update
packages from the default installation but that have a release number
minor than the package from the defaut installation. An example:
- openSUSE 10.3 comes with fileshareset-2.0-372 RPM, that has been
updated to fileshareset-2.0-372.5. The source RPM is
kdebase3-3.5.7-87[.5].
- KDE:KDE3 OBS repository, from where a lot of people updates to KDE
3.5.8, has fileshareset-2.0-41.1 from kdebase3-3.5.8-41.1 source RPM.

When I see such a thing should I report it to bugzilla?
This concrete case is problematic...
I use Smart and have KDE:KDE3 repository with a higher priority. So it
always prefers fileshareset-2.0-41.1 over fileshareset-2.0-372.5 even
if the release number is minor. I think that's the best I can do... I
don't know what fileshareset really is, but to avoid compatibility
problems is better to have all the packages from the same source RPM.
The problem happens if I try to use opensuse-updater. It tries to
install fileshareset-4865-0 patch to install fileshareset-2.0-372.5
package. Since fileshareset patch requires kdebase3 == 3.5.7-87.5
~# LANG=C zypper patch-info fileshareset
...
Provides:
patch: fileshareset == 4865-0

Requires:
atom: kdebase3-beagle == 3.5.7-87.5
atom: fileshareset == 2.0-372.5
atom: kdebase3-kdm == 3.5.7-87.5
atom: kdebase3-nsplugin == 3.5.7-87.5
atom: kdebase3-devel == 3.5.7-87.5
atom: kdebase3-session == 3.5.7-87.5
atom: kdebase3-32bit == 3.5.7-87.5
atom: kdebase3-ksysguardd == 3.5.7-87.5
atom: kdebase3-extra == 3.5.7-87.5
atom: kdebase3-samba == 3.5.7-87.5
atom: kdebase3-64bit == 3.5.7-87.5
atom: kdebase3 == 3.5.7-87.5 --

but since I already have kde 3.5.8 zypper ends trying to install
kdebase3-32bit... and with it also 25 additional
packages/dependencies.


I have never trusted libzypp, so forget that part... but the OBS
fileshareset package with a relese number minor than the one from
default openSUSE 10.3 should be reported like a packaging bug?
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Re: [opensuse-packaging] Installing beagle removes gimp-unstable

2008-01-19 Thread Rajko M.
On Saturday 19 January 2008 04:58:17 pm Rajko M. wrote:
 # zypper in beagle
[...]
 The following NEW packages are going to be installed:
   kdebase3-beagle beagle bundle-lang-common-en

 The following package is going to be REMOVED:
   gimp-unstable

 Overall download size: 1.2 M. After the operation, 37.2 M will be freed.
 Continue? [yes/no]: y

 What makes gimp-unstable unwanted?

I guess answer is in: 

# zypper in gimp-unstable
[...]

The following NEW packages are going to be installed:
  beagle-lang gimp-unstable

The following package is going to be REMOVED:
  bundle-lang-common-en

Overall download size: 12.0 M. After the operation, additional 39.8 M will be 
used.
Continue? [yes/no]: y


Any problems to make a beagle-lang direct dependency of beagle and skip step 
with deinstallation of gimp-unstable if it is incompatible with 
bundle-lang-common-en . 

Any need for a bug report?

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Re: [opensuse-packaging] Release Request for THEMONOSPOT application

2008-01-19 Thread Pascal Bleser
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Krzysztof Kotlenga wrote:
 hman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
 You probably won't be allowed to do so, because this would mean that
 you have to maintain your package for years[1] and even if you're
 willing to, you won't get a chance because non-suse employees with no
 reputation probably won't get access beyond Build Service[2]. This
 is opensuse openness. I'd like to be proved wrong.

That, indeed, is the current situation. And given what the core
distribution is (I mean e.g. openSUSE 10.3) and what the expectations
are towards it (stability, support, security fixes, QA), I hardly see
what's wrong with the current situation.

If you have a better concept on how to let anything into the
distribution and still keep quality, support and reactiveness up to par
with its current level, please enlighten us ;)

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[opensuse-packaging] Installing beagle removes gimp-unstable

2008-01-19 Thread Rajko M.

# zypper in beagle
* Reading repository '10.3src-nonfree' cache
* Reading repository 'turn-based-games' cache
* Reading repository 'gwdg-update' cache
* Reading repository 'openSUSE BuildService - Mozilla' cache
* Reading repository 'Main Repository (OSS)' cache
* Reading repository 'KDE4' cache
* Reading repository 'openSUSE BuildService - Virtualization (VirtualBox)' 
cache
* Reading repository 'openSUSE BuildService - Virtualization (QEMU)' cache
* Reading repository 'Main Update Repository' cache
* Reading repository 'NVIDIA Repository' cache
* Reading repository 'Local files' cache
* Reading repository 'gwdg-oss' cache
* Reading repository 'Main Repository (Sources)' cache
* Reading repository 'Main Repository (NON-OSS)' cache
* Reading repository 'Education Desktop' cache
* Reading installed packages [100%]


The following NEW packages are going to be installed:
  kdebase3-beagle beagle bundle-lang-common-en

The following package is going to be REMOVED:
  gimp-unstable

Overall download size: 1.2 M. After the operation, 37.2 M will be freed.
Continue? [yes/no]: 

What makes gimp-unstable unwanted? 
 
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Re: [opensuse-packaging] Installing beagle removes gimp-unstable

2008-01-19 Thread Stephan Kulow
Am Sonntag 20 Januar 2008 schrieb Rajko M.:

 Any problems to make a beagle-lang direct dependency of beagle and skip
 step with deinstallation of gimp-unstable if it is incompatible with
 bundle-lang-common-en .

Is this factory? In any case we need a test case, not the output. It's weired 
at least.

Greetings, Stephan
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