[opensuse-marketing] FOSSCOMM 2020 (online conference): Call for proposals submission

[Efstathios Iosifidis]

13th conference FOSSCOMM 2020

November 21–22, 2020

The University of Western Macedonia, Kastoria

The Free and Open Source Software Communities Meeting or otherwise
FOSSCOMM aims at all Free and Open Source Software enthusiasts,
regardless of the knowledge level that they own at this field. From
the first conference held in 2008 at the National Technical University
of Athens until today, the conference’s aspiration is to showcase the
usefulness and the necessity of using Free and Open Source Software
and to point out new trends in it thus attracting new members to the
communities, aiming at the contribution of more and more free software
for all.

Due to the recent health crisis because of COVID-19, this year’s
FOSSCOMM 2020, will take place via Web and will be organizationally
supported by the IEEE Student Branch of the University of Western
Macedonia.

The organizational committee of the conference invites all interested
parties to submit their proposals, talk or laboratory presentation, in
the Greek or English language at
https://pretalx.2020.fosscomm.gr/fosscomm-2020/cfp
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Re: [opensuse-marketing] openSUSE LEAP 15 swag

[Efstathios Iosifidis]

Hello,

Contact Doug.

Have fun,
Stathis
Στις Πέμ, 5 Ιουλ 2018 στις 4:11 μ.μ., ο/η Sean Rickerd
 έγραψε:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'll be presenting at a local LUG to talk about openSUSE 15 and SLE 15.
>
> I've already got some Enterprise SUSE stuff coming, but was wondering if
> I could get some openSUSE swag as well for the attendees.
>
> I expect 50 people. Let me know if it's possible and I'll provide my
> shipping address.
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Re: [opensuse-arm] BananaPi - usb out of function

[Efstathios Iosifidis]

Hello Andreas,

2016-10-15 16:11 GMT+03:00 Andreas Färber :
> Please don't advertise binary non-OBS image downloads to users here.

OK.
I tried the image from

http://download.opensuse.org/ports/armv7hl/tumbleweed/images/

and didn't work. So I took rootfs come from OBS.
I posted a tutorial on lizards.

> Then please report any errors to this list or on Bugzilla, and since
> apparently you have found solutions, please create Submit Requests on
> build.opensuse.org to have the official repositories fixed. If no
> community member reports or fixes problems, things will stay broken.

Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with OBS or other Bugzilla. I'm end
user and I would like to install something and it'll work.

Anyways, thanks for suggestions.
Take care,
Stathis
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[opensuse-marketing] Our presence at FOSSCOMM 2016, Athens-Greece

[Efstathios Iosifidis]

Hello lizards,

I wrote a short report at
http://eiosifidis.blogspot.gr/2016/04/what-happened-at-fosscomm-2016.html

We had 2 presentations.
1. "Why you should use Tumbleweed". Not enough audience since it was
the first presentation after key note, not at the main room. A
"mistake" was that we didn't use the word "openSUSE" at the title.
Anyways, there were enough people and had plenty of questions about
rolling, openQA, Tumbleweed.
2. "openSUSE Leaping ahead". This was between 2 very interested
presentations, so there was audience where we could present what's new
on Leap.

We also had a booth with limited swag for the first day. People came
and asked us about difference of Leap and Tumbleweed, about how GNU is
the distro right after it's installed, where they can use Leap and
where Tumbleweed. We had a demo laptop with Tumbleweed GNOME.
Organizers said that there were about 800 people registered.
Personally I could say I saw 200-300 different people. Maybe it's
because the conference held at university.

More pictures at
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/113385548251515365143/albums/6274974176005913233

and (article in Greek)

https://opensource.ellak.gr/2016/04/18/avlea-me-poli-chirokrotima-gia-tin-fosscomm-2016/



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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Events for the Leap Year 2016

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Hello all,

2015-12-10 12:20 GMT+02:00 ddemaio :
> Hi all,
> With 2016 just 21 days away, it's time to think about what events the
> openSUSE projects will attend this year. If you plan on attending an event,
> please fill in the details at
> https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Advocates_events#2016.
>
> Additionally, 2016 is a Leap Year. If anyone has ideas for what we can do to
> take advantage of this coincidental Leap year matching up with the release
> of openSUSE Leap 42.1, please share your idea on this thread. We could also
> organize a brainstorming team for this idea if you prefer that. I'll start
> it off with the ideas.

A cool idea would be to fix our wiki. Having as target Arch wiki, we
could make wikithons every month with a price. Of cource we should set
some minimum contribution (how many pages etc) for someone to win the
price. We could figure out the details of the wikithons.

I guess during 2016 we will have more projects using Leap, so we will
be able to document the projects for easy how to's.

Have phun,
/S

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[opensuse-marketing] Booth box conversation starers

[Efstathios Iosifidis]

Hello,

I didn't make it to see Robert's presentation about booth boxes. I
guess I'll catch up from youtube.

I would like to have feedback from the community, what is the
conversation starter item from booth box (or local printed leaflet)?
Ideas?

As it mentioned, a pen is a good gift but it's not something that our
advocates can start conversation about openSUSE.

A brochure, is something that the visitor will read once or twice and
maybe throw it to trash. Maybe it's the same with the PromoDVD.

On the other hand, USB is something that he/she will use almost everyday.
If he/she uses other distro (and have it inside our USB), he/she'll
have the logo on it and remember to check our distro.
If he/she's windows user, he/she will also see the logo and remember
maybe the advocate and/or the distro.
Personally I find it a good place to start a conversation saying that
It includes an installation and live image of the amazing GNOME and
KDE of our awesome openSUSE.

If you stop there, then you just gave a USB. Do you continue by giving
information where the visitor (mostly the windows user) can find
information/support (we printed a leaflet with facebook, google +,
twitter, mailing list, IRC etc)?

I have an example in my country that a university had a presentation
about Ubuntu and during the week, most of those students joined
Ubuntu's facebook group. They were asking silly questions such as do
I use sudo with this command?. But it's something we all did when we
started. We wanted someone to help us.

So, do you give a page with information where they can find you?

What else do you do? I think I wrote a post (but definately I made a
presentation at a conference). Do you stay behind the table with your
laptop and wait the visitor to come talk to you or stay outside of the
table and you go to talk to the visitor?
I think I saw Jos' presentation once and he said that the tables have
to be on the wall behind you. Not between you and the visitor. So
visitor enters openSUSE booth and the possibilities to talk to you are
high.

By the way, it would be awesome if the ISO in the USB stick will be
like our PromoDVDs (live and installation) and if possible both archs
(although only 64bit will be available from now on, but in my country
and I guess other countries, there are pretty old computers too).
Don't know if technical is possible. Just an idea. 8GB have to be
enough for this, right?

Food for though.
Thanks for reading.
Have fun,
/S


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[opensuse-marketing] Don't search developers. Develop them. Events, events everywhere

[Efstathios Iosifidis]

Hello my friends,

Unfortunately I couldn't make it to the conference due to family
health problems.

I saw the project meeting and I totally agree with Henne. Actually I
was preparing a post about part of what he said.
Here it is:
https://lizards.opensuse.org/2015/05/06/developing-developers/

It doesn't matter if the product is the best (SLEbased, SLEless, Tumbleweed).
If there are no end users to use and promote it (because usually
developers don't), then it's useless to have it.

Find out WHY you do what you do and just go out and engage people (as
I mention, the term marketing leeds to profits-money).
Go to events, bring more people (prefer end users) to community and
just help them engage-grow.

Help end users to find themselfs in the community. If they like it,
they'll become developers. If they're not interested in developing,
they'll help make our project fantabulous.

Don't forget to have fun.
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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Strategy for Help openSUSE Advocate

[Efstathios Iosifidis]

2015-05-04 13:18 GMT+03:00 Luis R. Domínguez rich...@fslpma.org:
 Hi Everyone, my name is Luis Richard Dominguez, all Call me for Second Name 
 Richard, i am Free Software Activist from 2006 and openSUSE user from 2011 
 and Advocate from 2013, My Nick is R1chardQ.

 I have a Ask, for this Year,  exist any strategy to help the openSUSE 
 Advocate Pepple for Marketing or Promote the Project in our community ???

 In My opinion, one way of increase the people contributing to openSUSE 
 Project is help to openSUSE Advocate to promote them, with things how to 
 example stikers, DVD, T-Shirts, International openSUSE Speakers, other 
 Things, etc

 Greetings from Panama

 Luis Richard Domínguez

 Fundación Fraternidad del Software Libre de Panamá

Hello Richard,

I saw the project meeting.

Well first of all, you can produce promo materials locally and request
reimbursement from here
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Local_Material_Production_Reimbursement

this is good because you can translate some of the materials.
But where you can find them?
Here https://github.com/openSUSE/artwork

You can also request for a booth box
https://progress.opensuse.org/projects/travel-support-program-management/wiki/Booth_box/3

A small one if the event is smaller or bigger one if you join a bigger event.

You can also request reimbursement for your trip (if big event)
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Travel_Support_Program

I hope I covered almost everything. Please feel free to add anything you want.
Have fun,
/S

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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: Marketing Push for openSUSE [Suggestions opinions]

[Efstathios Iosifidis]

2014-12-11 18:14 GMT+02:00 Henne Vogelsang hvo...@opensuse.org:
 Hey,

 On 11.12.2014 15:12, Nenad Latinović wrote:

 - keeping news.o.o only for directly project-related news
 - creating a less formal news site, which would cover all kinds of
 news

 Hm but then every article you write for this new news.opensuse.org
 will also have to end up on the new telegraph.opensuse.org right? I
 mean directly project-related news are the most important news...
 Hence I doubt the purpose of news as kind of filter. There are other
 means to achieve this. Categories for instance :-) With the rest I agree
 a 100%.

 Additionally I would like to introduce a editorial workflow for
 news.o.o. Something like

 http://editflow.org/
 http://pressforward.org/
 http://www.oasisworkflow.com/

 And merge lizards + news into a WP network

 http://codex.wordpress.org/Create_A_Network

 But as with everything else, this is a lot of work and I'm alone on the
 technical side...

 Henne


Hello,

A cool name would be

opensuse.rocks (if the domain is available).

Not so formal news (like news.o.o). More lizzards style but better
themed. Something like omg style.

But if Henne is alone and the no-one writes articles, there's no
reason to start-keep such thing.
Have phun,
Stathis



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Re: [opensuse-marketing] openSUSE spin

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2014-12-05 12:47 GMT+02:00 Ish Sookun i...@hacklog.in:
 Hello folks,

 While attending recent tech events in Mauritius, I carefully listened
 to the needs of people from various backgrounds when it comes to
 migrating to Linux. I also paid attention to why some consider other
 distributions rather than openSUSE.

 I am thinking of creating an openSUSE spin loaded with the popular
 applications here on the island. These would include proprietary apps
 like Skype, Flash Player etc. I am thus wondering if I can do that all
 while keeping the openSUSE logo.

 Is it ok to have an unofficial openSUSE spin loaded with proprietary software?

 Cheers,

 Ish Sookun

Hello Ish,

I guess you can try SUSESTUDIO. I'm still waiting for the 13.2 to be
included there to create a spin of MATE.
Regarding logo, maybe board is the right people to ask.

Take care,
Stathis


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Re: [opensuse-gnome] User feedback concerning openSUSE 13.2 with GNOME

[Efstathios Iosifidis]

Hello Roger,

Another opinion is that it's faster than previous GNOME (3.10).


 +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
 Most common complaint (which seems to affect KDE as well, and maybe
 worse) is concerning font rendering. I don't know what the problem is
 since so far as I know I'm not experiencing the problem.

Regarding this, I really didn't understand it. A guy was complaining
in Greek mailing list.
He said that fontconfig-infinality package fix the problem. Although
he added it, it didn't.
So he was searching and he gave us a solution.
Add this:
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/nick31:/INFINALITY-ULTIMATE/openSUSE_13.2/

Install the packages
1. cairo-devel-1.12.16-13.1.x86_64.rpm
3. cairo-tools-1.12.16-13.1.x86_64.rpm
4. fontconfig-2.11.1-11.1.x86_64.rpm
6. fontconfig-devel-2.11.1-11.1.x86_64.rpm
8. freetype2-devel-2.5.3-11.1.x86_64.rpm
10. libcairo-gobject2-1.12.16-13.1.x86_64.rpm
12. libcairo-script-interpreter2-1.12.16-13.1.x86_64.rpm
14. libcairo2-1.12.16-13.1.x86_64.rpm
16. libfreetype6-2.5.3-11.1.x86_64.rpm

and restart.

Not sure, but everything comes from the page http://bohoomil.com/
(that's what the Greek guy told us).
Can someone check it?


 The Main Menu Editor (alacarte) once again does not work. I ran it
 terminal and saw no unusual errors and ran it with gnomesu to see if
 that changed the behavior.

Check out menulibre. I think it's the same as alacarte but for GNOME shell.


Have phun,
Stathis


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Re: [opensuse-marketing] New cover graphic needed for Google+

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2014-11-05 1:06 GMT+02:00 Roger Luedecke roger.luede...@gmail.com:
 We need a new graphic for the Google+ page.

Hello Roger,

I made one for Greek G+
It's the same as facebook's but I changed the resolution a bit.

Stathis



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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Release announcement 13.2

[Efstathios Iosifidis]

2014-10-28 12:22 GMT+02:00 Ancor Gonzalez Sosa an...@suse.de:
 Sadly, the major features page [1] is still almost empty compared to
 previous releases but we are already WAY too late for the release
 announcement, since it needs to be translated before the release date.
 So I copied the previous one and started to draft something with the
 content we have.

 Help is desperately needed. We lack a headline, screenshots are from the
 previous announcement, there are missing sections and we still don't
 have the quotes. Not to mention that I wrote it in a hurry and it needs
 serious review.

 Here is it: https://news.opensuse.org/?p=18707preview=true

 Cheers.

 [1] https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Major_features

Hello Ancor,

Simon wrote Major features of Enlightenment
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Major_features#Enlightenment

Can you check please and if needed change the announcement (regarding
versions)?

Saludos,
Stathis


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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Release announcement 13.2

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2014-10-28 19:51 GMT+02:00 Ancor Gonzalez Sosa an...@suse.de:
 On 10/28/2014 02:40 PM, Ancor Gonzalez Sosa wrote:
 On 10/28/2014 12:14 PM, Ancor Gonzalez Sosa wrote:
 On 10/28/2014 11:33 AM, Alexjan Carraturo wrote:
 Help is desperately needed. We lack a headline, screenshots are from the
 previous announcement, there are missing sections and we still don't
 have the quotes. Not to mention that I wrote it in a hurry and it needs
 serious review.
 My 2c for headline (I know may seems stupid, but in my language sounds 
 good)

 openSUSE 13.2: green light to freedom
 (referring to semaphore)
 I like it. Adopted :-)

 I updated the announcement with that slogan and the desktop screenshots
 (too bad there is no single MATE screenshots in
 https://en.opensuse.org/Screenshots_13.2). I will continue now with
 other screenshots. https://news.opensuse.org/?p=18707preview=true
 Updated again. Screenshots are current now. I removed some part to which
 we didn't have enough content. If you have more content, please provide
 it. If not, please review.
 https://news.opensuse.org/?p=18707preview=true

 I added a completely outstanding image contributed by victorhck. Thanks
 dude!

Hello Ancor,

Here is Greek translation
https://el.opensuse.org/Release_announcement

please add it at the top of the article (if you keep the links).

Have phun,
Stathis



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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Verify GNOME 13.2 bugs (add repository and system settings menu brakes)

[Efstathios Iosifidis]

Hello, it's me again.

Well today we had RC1. I downloaded both 32 and 64 bit.
I tested 64bit liveUSB on my strong netbook and the problem with the
system settings wasn't there.
I tested 32 bit liveUSB on my strong netbook and the problem WAS there.
I tested it on my test laptop and the problem WAS there.

I didn't have much time to install and update since I have some family
health problems.
If someone can check the 32bit version, please do it.

Thanks,
Stathis

2014-10-07 20:30 GMT+03:00 Efstathios Iosifidis iefstath...@gmail.com:
 Hello,

 For the past few days, I struggle to install GNOME.
 First of all the version I'm trying is 32bit since my computer is old.
 I told you about the system settings problem.
 i tried to install openSUSE GNOME factory. Unfortunately I got the same 
 problem.
 Now I installed 13.1 and I'll try to turn it to factory and check if
 the issue with system settings exists.

 I'll have you informed.
 Take care,
 Stathis

 2014-10-05 13:55 GMT+03:00 Efstathios Iosifidis iefstath...@gmail.com:
 Hello Dominique,

 2014-10-05 12:21 GMT+03:00 Dimstar / Dominique Leuenberger
 dims...@opensuse.org:


 1. I tried to add a community repository (GNOME) and got an error.
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20413076/opensuse/13.2/bugs/gnome-repo.png

 As I'm not certain out of that screenshot what repo it wants to add
 exactly, I have to guess.. then my best guess is
 GNOME:Apps/openSUSE_13.2. Good catch then: this is not yet build
 enabled, as 13.2 is not out.. I just enabled 13.2 as a build target, so
 you should be able to retest this in a couple hours/days (260 packages
 to be built)

 Yes, this was GNOME:Apps. So I just have to wait. I asked Greek
 community as well and they verified it.



 2. Then I opened settings. I tried to open all options and the window 
 broke.
 Only yast and gnome-tweak-tool worked fine. Here's a video.
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20413076/opensuse/13.2/bugs/system-menu.webm

 Can you please verify that those are bugs, so I'll start search bugzilla?

 That has been observed. As strange as it is: GNOME 3.12 was in Factory
 since April... so something else must have broken it without people
 realizing.

 By now we have GNOME 3.14 in Factory and on the queue for 13.2; the
 issue is fixed there. Additionally, I submitted a openQA test to start
 gnome-control-center and launch at least one of the panels, so we will
 hopefully see such issues earlier in the future.

 Regarding this, Greeks told me that it's not happening. My version is
 32bit (since my computer doesn't support 64bit).
 So it might be only on 32bit problem.

 So I don't have to fie a bug.
 I'll continue my tests for everyday use then.
 Thanks
 Stathis


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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Polari for default!

[Efstathios Iosifidis]

2014-10-08 1:37 GMT+03:00 Roger Luedecke roger.luede...@gmail.com:
 I've been using Polari since it was released a while back and still use
 it. I think we should replace Xchat with Polari as default. It's
 prettier, simpler, and more in line with the GNOME design philosophy.
 Also, it's quite thoroughly functional and I've had absolutely no
 problems with it even when it was beta.

+1


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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Verify GNOME 13.2 bugs (add repository and system settings menu brakes)

[Efstathios Iosifidis]

Hello,

For the past few days, I struggle to install GNOME.
First of all the version I'm trying is 32bit since my computer is old.
I told you about the system settings problem.
i tried to install openSUSE GNOME factory. Unfortunately I got the same problem.
Now I installed 13.1 and I'll try to turn it to factory and check if
the issue with system settings exists.

I'll have you informed.
Take care,
Stathis

2014-10-05 13:55 GMT+03:00 Efstathios Iosifidis iefstath...@gmail.com:
 Hello Dominique,

 2014-10-05 12:21 GMT+03:00 Dimstar / Dominique Leuenberger
 dims...@opensuse.org:


 1. I tried to add a community repository (GNOME) and got an error.
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20413076/opensuse/13.2/bugs/gnome-repo.png

 As I'm not certain out of that screenshot what repo it wants to add
 exactly, I have to guess.. then my best guess is
 GNOME:Apps/openSUSE_13.2. Good catch then: this is not yet build
 enabled, as 13.2 is not out.. I just enabled 13.2 as a build target, so
 you should be able to retest this in a couple hours/days (260 packages
 to be built)

 Yes, this was GNOME:Apps. So I just have to wait. I asked Greek
 community as well and they verified it.



 2. Then I opened settings. I tried to open all options and the window broke.
 Only yast and gnome-tweak-tool worked fine. Here's a video.
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20413076/opensuse/13.2/bugs/system-menu.webm

 Can you please verify that those are bugs, so I'll start search bugzilla?

 That has been observed. As strange as it is: GNOME 3.12 was in Factory
 since April... so something else must have broken it without people
 realizing.

 By now we have GNOME 3.14 in Factory and on the queue for 13.2; the
 issue is fixed there. Additionally, I submitted a openQA test to start
 gnome-control-center and launch at least one of the panels, so we will
 hopefully see such issues earlier in the future.

 Regarding this, Greeks told me that it's not happening. My version is
 32bit (since my computer doesn't support 64bit).
 So it might be only on 32bit problem.

 So I don't have to fie a bug.
 I'll continue my tests for everyday use then.
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[opensuse-gnome] Verify GNOME 13.2 bugs (add repository and system settings menu brakes)

[Efstathios Iosifidis]

Hello guys,

I tried 13.2 yesterday. I would like to ask you to verify 2 bugs I might had.
I didn't search bugzilla for them, so please let me know if it's a known bugs.
First of all, after installation, I updated the system. Then I changed
the language to Greek (I want to check if we have correct translations
both GNOME and openSUSE).

1. I tried to add a community repository (GNOME) and got an error.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20413076/opensuse/13.2/bugs/gnome-repo.png

2. Then I opened settings. I tried to open all options and the window broke.
Only yast and gnome-tweak-tool worked fine. Here's a video.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20413076/opensuse/13.2/bugs/system-menu.webm

Can you please verify that those are bugs, so I'll start search bugzilla?

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Re: [opensuse-marketing] News Survey - Responses - Part 1

[Efstathios Iosifidis]

Στις 16 Αυγ 2014 2:05 μ.μ., ο χρήστης Nenad Latinović 
ne...@latinovic.info έγραψε:

 Hi there.

 There have been some interesting responses regarding n.o.o. so i'd like
to point some of the recurring ones.


 1. For now (110+ responses), the quality of the news is rated somewhere
between 3 and 4. (both tied, but there are 9 responses for 1 and 2, and
only 6 for 5).

 2. About 40% would like more focus on development news, while 19% each
are for tutorials and power user topics. There are no responses for artwork
news and a few for others.

 3. There are currently a vast majority of wishes for news to be published
only a couple of times/week instead of every day, or once a week.

 4. The site's appearance is rated nearly 50 for 4, and 30+ for 3. About
twenty percent want an overhaul, the same are against it, while 50+ % think
the appearance is not important, but only content.

 And now for the most important part:

 In the 'write your opinion' section, the most recurring responses are
that non-technical and technical news should be treated equally, so I guess
we'd need a power-user who's willing to write for n.o.o. regularly. The
other is that series like the past CLT and similar don't belong on the news
site, but there are suggestions to either create a separate site like
omgubuntu of fedoraftw, or to find a way to merge the n.o.o. with lizards.
How could that be done? Maybe create a separate site, f.ex.
green.opensuse.org, or to try and make n.o.o. as omgubuntu as possible?

 Anyway, these are my two cents, and just something for you to brainstorm.
Responses would be appreciated.


 Regards,
 --
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Thank you Nenad for the results.
Regarding the idea about green.o.o, there was a plan for a monthly news
with articles etc. Search the archive please to see the discussion.

Take care,
Stathis

Re: [opensuse-marketing] A few words about the OSC brainstorming/marketing

[Efstathios Iosifidis]

Hello,

Thank you Francoise. I think Jos did that for last year's conference.
Couldn't find it though. If someone else (or Jos) remembers it, maybe
he/she can add it here (just to check some guidelines).
Some who couldn't come and want to help, they have to know what's up.
I kind of merge some replies from your last mail.

 1. Izabel asked about a marketing Strategy, and apparently, the word
 strategy is not appreciate that much (according to Richard).

 so ... guide line ? a kinda direction ? other word ?

First of all, what strategy mean? What we should focus? Something else?
Also marketing sounds commercial like it's a company or something. We
are community. Example is GNOME that changed the title to
engagement.

What is the subjects that someone can do as marketing team member?
First of all, everything have to be added to the wiki Portal
https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Marketing

so everyone will be aware of what we do.

1. Write news and spread the word to social media channels.
2. Write articles for magazines and blogs. Maybe merge lizards and
have it like huge community blog or something.
3. Press releases and respond to press queries
4. Release notes and release campaigns
5. Beta and Release Parties
6. Websites and wiki pages
7. Regular meetings (let's say once a month?) for future actions
8. Cooperate with artwork team to ask for anything that marketing needs.
9. Organize openSUSE presence at conferences and give talks

Do we need the advocate program. It's a huge difference to have a
title and promote openSUSE to conference (that's not organized by
openSUSE). We need people to act.
A long time ago I sent a proposal to 3 people for that program
http://goo.gl/xMT0FK
Nothing happened.
Actually there's need of one person per country to send him the promo
materials and then he can forward them to the events, LUGs,
hackerspaces etc. But since now we have a committee for promo
materials, we should make some rules for that.


 2. Richard as a board member told us that the year coming priority is to
 get more contributors in openSUSE.
 The question is how ??

 (And he talked about the website would need a refresh ... but the SUSE
 designer team have no time ...)

Personally I think we have to focus what we want to do with the
community. I mean do we want to go to events and try to focus on new
users and bring them to openSUSE? Do we need to focus on advanced
users? Please check Jos' presentation at oSC14 and you'll see what I
mean.
New users...all the way!!!

First, try to create strong local communities, of users and people who
want to engage with the community and then try to join the global
events. Bring fresh people. Usually you can find them in
Universities/Schools (maybe we should turn the advocate program to
university advocate program). Of course you can join openSUSE
conference, but please go to every possible presentation and bring the
information back to your country. Present it to local community. If
there's not one, join a LUG and try to make some gatherings there. I
know that might be difficult but it works. See Jos' presentation at
oSC14 about how to do that.

Some ideas:
1. Try to create events such as openSUSE nights. A 5hours event at
your LUG/hackerspace. The first 2 hours can be a presentation of 1
hour (everyone can do a presentation about a project) and the other 3
hours can be hands on. Try workshops. Try to learn a new programming
language and push them to join GSoC or OPW (both give 5500$). Try the
new openSUSE version and report bugs.

2. Try a fun night with openSUSE beers. You can go to drink beer. You
can go with your friends but this time name it openSUSE beers. Bring
new people and show them that we have fun. Discuss openSUSE related
subjects. Do brainstorm and provide us for some new awesome ideas.


 3. According to me (each one can add his own point of vue), marketing is
 not only a mission of being visible
 but being attractiv

 Example : ok for OSC pictures all over the web, but I am not sure that
 an empty conference room is a good thing

 same for articles or news ... which are necessary and I think that for
 ex Yorgo (Greece) and Jos do a great job - or did ? will go on doing ?
 Zvebor told that you did not have the time to write the article for OSC
 ? And Robert (when Isazel asked) said that Jos will go on writing
 openSUSE news. So  ?


Sure it's not attractive. I guess there are 2 ways to show more
people. Either you have smaller room or invite more to come. To do so,
I guess we have to book the keynote speakers early. They have to be
attractive to the people (like rock stars-legends).
The program has to be ready early. Even if it's not 100% ready, people
have to know what they will see, so they can attend.
Local communities have to promote the conference to target audience.
Target audience is a computer science students. They expect to see
that openSUSE linux is easy to use, how to use it, it's not only
software but people, the community like to have fun, we go 

[opensuse-gnome] Booth at conference

[Efstathios Iosifidis]

Hello team,

I read that there will be an area for booths.
Do you want to order swag from GNOME and have our own?
Who's going to help?
Tobi will be with us. I can be there (I'll know when I figure out
where they'll put me as volunteer). I guess Izabel can help too.
We need more.
Any volunteer?

Have phun,
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[opensuse-gnome] GNOME 3.12 and openSUSE 13.1

[Efstathios Iosifidis]

Hello,

As you probably know, GNOME 3.12 is out.
What is the plan for openSUSE?
I guess extra repository that will add GNOME 3.12.
Any instructions? Any ideas when we'll have it?

Thanks
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Re: [opensuse-gnome] GNOME team meeting at oSC14?

[Efstathios Iosifidis]

2014-02-08 1:23 GMT+02:00 Vincent Untz vu...@opensuse.org:
 Hey there,

 So who will go to oSC14? I think we should do some nice GNOME stuff
 there -- could be a BoF, could be some hacking / bug fixing / whatever
 session. I'm willing to help with the organization part of things.

 What do you think? Anyone else interested in that? :-)

 Cheers,

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Hello Vincent,

I'll be there. I would like to know how to help and be more productive to GNOME.
Maybe someone can teach me how to triage bugs.

I can bring my ODROID with me (ARM quad-core, 2GB ram). I've found an
openSUSE 12.2 image (I guess I can update it to 12.3). It runs XFCE.
Do you think that we can try install GNOME (even the old one). Not
sure why, XFCE is quite slow. I tested it with Fedora MATE and it was
normal.

Any other suggestions what to do for GNOME?
Have fun,
Stathis

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Re: [opensuse-marketing] marketing tasks priority - news

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2013/12/13 Rajko rmatov...@charter.net:
 On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 20:46:16 -0600
 Rajko rmatov...@charter.net wrote:

 When it was populated it would be even bigger.

 Looking at the Issue 134:
 http://en.opensuse.org/Archive:Weekly_news_134
 it is shorter than template - 14 browser pages.

 --
 Regards, Rajko.

Here a little gift from me. All the PDF issues (well from the issue
that it was available):
http://goo.gl/jPlwlC

Have phun,
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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Marketing and Artwork, who's around?

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2013/12/11 Izabel Valverde izabelvalve...@opensuse.org:
 2013/12/10 Jimmy PIERRE jimmypierre.rouen.fra...@gmail.com:
 I am in!
 Jimmy Pierre (NUI)
 Best,

 On 10 December 2013 12:39, jdd j...@dodin.org wrote:
 Le 10/12/2013 11:59, Agustin Benito Bethencourt a écrit :



 The merchandising program is unblocked since a few days ago.


 great.

 one of the work of the maketting people is to make it the more effective as
 possible


 thanks
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 Hello all,

 Hello speacially Sarah - Welcome!, Edwin and Jimmy that I haven't seen
 around for quite some time.

 @Edwin all the work done by Sascha, Satoru and the translators team I
 believe is something that any openSUSEan misses.

 @Sarah students are the best way to show openSUSE to the world. In
 Brazil FOSS genneraly worked cause students were the priority #1.

 @Agustin, we are happy to know that openSUSE Team are one step ahead
 to help us! We are glad to have materials anytime. Now also seems that
 we have more people willing to help on this.

 @all we are a great team so far, don't you agree?

 Next?

 Izabel

Hello all,

+1 for school and universities as #1 newcomers.
People who don't know about Open Source and come from Windows world.
At least that's what I did with GNOME in my city and had an
application for Outreach Program.

Stathis


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Re: [opensuse-marketing] marketting tasks priority

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2013/12/11 Izabel Valverde izabelvalve...@opensuse.org:
 2013/12/11 Rajko rmatov...@charter.net:
 On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 23:17:23 +0100
 jdd j...@dodin.org wrote:

 for now I see the task list as:

 * weekly news
 * goodies (discussion)
 * OSC14, how to promote? (April)
 * FOSDEM (Feb 1st)

 Try to use this to collect ideas.
 It is easier to share than emails, and far easier to edit than wiki :)

 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsHNJIS5xTiDdDcydFM4cTRydG1GUGhmYlpMVWIwZXc#gid=0

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 Hey Rajko, Thank you!

 It is quite good spreadsheet. My concerns are: some people do not
 agree to use googledocs, all the docs that we did like this are lost
 e.g. events list, ambassadors program, openSUSE Local Coordinator
 (remake Amabassadors), just to name few in the last 2 years.

 If we start with
 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsHNJIS5xTiDdDcydFM4cTRydG1GUGhmYlpMVWIwZXc#gid=0
 to help us now for 1-2 and then move to the wiki I agree it is a very
 easy way to collect data. Otherwise in 1 year or less will be lost
 too. At least is an experience that I have seen here.


 For those who believes is hard/boring to edit the wiki could please
 just say: - Please add and I'd gladly do it. I'm willing to do it
 after the spreadsheet has set anyway. Might be easier for newcomers
 know where to find our things.

 Thank you

 Izabel

Hello All,

I agree with Izabel about using *ONE* community tool and specially wiki.
When I started with Kostas the Greek community, we agreed to use ONLY
community tools. Blogspot or other NON openSUSE tools, have failed.
So wiki is our solution, or connect or the latest
https://progress.opensuse.org/ (don't know how it works and what it
does).

Have phun,
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Re: [opensuse-marketing] what weekly news do we want

[Efstathios Iosifidis]

2013/12/11 jdd j...@dodin.org:
 As I see this subject is hot, I think it's time to open a thread, not to
 hijack the task one, so, feel free to give your advice here (I will give
 mine later)

 thanks a lot, it's a pleasure to see the marketting team at work again :-)

 Michal said:

 Maybe monthly news would be easier? Workload can be spread through whole
 month and just summarize what happened/is going on... I understand, that
 weekly newsletter is a lot of work and has tight deadlines, but easy way to
 relax it could be prolonging the cycle. Monthly? Bi-weekly? Just throwing in
 some ideas
 ;-)

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+1 for monthly.
From my point of view, translate it to Greek, it's hard because we
lack translators. Not happy to say it but I did 99% of the translation
for 13.1 (only 1-2 people did review).

Have phun,
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Re: [opensuse-marketing] marketting tasks priority

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2013/12/11 Manu Gupta manugu...@gmail.com:
 I can bring in the old magazine design for review,

 Please give me sometime to find it ( I had really prefer our wiki though)


 On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 10:43 PM, Ish Sookun i...@hacklog.in wrote:
 Thumbs up for the PDF magazine idea ( :
 I've read full circle  indeed it has a load among of interesting
 stuffs from the Ubuntu community.

 Can help in with some content writing.

 Cheers!
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 On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Chuck Payne terror...@gmail.com wrote:
 I like google doc, my company has stop using MS Office and we only use
 Google docs, it a great way for all to work on, just like the
 piratepad was.  I am not sure why people wouldn't  want to use it.
 Unless you mean they don't have a Google account, that is the major
 down side to Google docs. Just like using openSUSE site you need to
 have an account. So either way you are face with who has access, same
 with any good tool.

 I love to see the weekly news come back. I thought of stealing an idea
 from Ubuntu, they do a monthly pdf called Full Circle, I like us to
 have a pdf magazine. Something that if we could do it right give to
 the people that go to the show as Marketing Material. We could work
 with one of those print company so if people want their own copy that
 can order it, thus saving us from print it.

 I am thinking this would be a lot at first so we could start bi-montly.

 Here is the format I have layout

 The Editor Notes ( Talking about the Issue )
 News from Geeko Community ( Hi-Lites of news that happen )
 Planet Lizard ( Seeing up a poll on the last blogs from Planet Lizard
 that would be great is shared )
 Event Calendar  ( Where will openSUSE be, from Fest, Schools, Install
 Party, etc...)
 The Board ( News from the Board )
 What Hot in openSUSE ( Things that are hot in the openSUSE Project )
 Article on openSUSE ( From our Members, from community around the
 world, the next release hose  )
 Asked the Mighty Dragon ( Q and A, the answer would come from
 advocates, mentors, anyone that wants to help)
 Last Scale ( Note to end the magazine )

 Pup


 On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Richard Dominguez rich...@fslpma.org 
 wrote:
 El 11/12/13 08:31, Efstathios Iosifidis escribió:

 2013/12/11 Izabel Valverde izabelvalve...@opensuse.org:

 2013/12/11 Rajko rmatov...@charter.net:

 On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 23:17:23 +0100
 jdd j...@dodin.org wrote:

 for now I see the task list as:

 * weekly news
 * goodies (discussion)
 * OSC14, how to promote? (April)
 * FOSDEM (Feb 1st)

 Try to use this to collect ideas.
 It is easier to share than emails, and far easier to edit than wiki :)


 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsHNJIS5xTiDdDcydFM4cTRydG1GUGhmYlpMVWIwZXc#gid=0

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 Hey Rajko, Thank you!

 It is quite good spreadsheet. My concerns are: some people do not
 agree to use googledocs, all the docs that we did like this are lost
 e.g. events list, ambassadors program, openSUSE Local Coordinator
 (remake Amabassadors), just to name few in the last 2 years.

 If we start with

 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsHNJIS5xTiDdDcydFM4cTRydG1GUGhmYlpMVWIwZXc#gid=0
 to help us now for 1-2 and then move to the wiki I agree it is a very
 easy way to collect data. Otherwise in 1 year or less will be lost
 too. At least is an experience that I have seen here.


 For those who believes is hard/boring to edit the wiki could please
 just say: - Please add and I'd gladly do it. I'm willing to do it
 after the spreadsheet has set anyway. Might be easier for newcomers
 know where to find our things.

 Thank you

 Izabel

 Hello All,

 I agree with Izabel about using *ONE* community tool and specially wiki.
 When I started with Kostas the Greek community, we agreed to use ONLY
 community tools. Blogspot or other NON openSUSE tools, have failed.
 So wiki is our solution, or connect or the latest
 https://progress.opensuse.org/ (don't know how it works and what it
 does).

 Have phun,
 Stathis


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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Marketing and Artwork, who's around?

[Efstathios Iosifidis]

2013/12/9 Izabel Valverde izabelvalve...@opensuse.org:
 Hello all,

 I believe most of us are following the -project mailing list so I
 believe we should move on in Marketing too. Project decision is our
 concern too!

 I've been deeply involved with openSUSE in the last 3 years and FOSS
 in general at least 15. That is the reason I believe I can present my
 thoughts.

 From my perspective...  Any contribution is seasonal and some can at
 least stay longer than 1-2 years. Using me, Izabel,  as example, I
 started in the Marketing Team and I contributed until the 12.3
 Release. I did not contributed to 13.1 cause my help wasn't necessary
 besides, quoting Please ping the Artwork Team. On those 3 years I
 saw some initiatives about Ambassadors Team, Welcome Team, blablabla
 Team and in all of them most of the same people were discussing what
 should be the rules to start or who would take care of it... The
 standards were so high that neither the most valuable contributor
 would achive the points to be considerer a mentor or a Ambassador
 or... I hope you can understand my points.


 Now there is a new program, hopefuly successful one but has
 something writen in the wiki that I don't agree:  Are there rules?
 Hey, we at openSUSE don't do rules ;-) 

 It looks so careless! We don't do rules but anytime possible we
 start a program or a group to talk about how to do it. Any new
 contributor is totally lost on how to start. #Imlosingsomething

 We are marketing, we need to care with the message send.

 As Marketing Team we are losing A LOT since we don't have materials to
 send around. Just the free will of our Advocates/Ambassadors/members
 isn't enough. Yes the DVD's shipment costs were really high but turned
 into ZERO didn't help. We became first with the $100 support idea,
 nobody used, poor advertise, so we erase the subsidy, later the
 Marketing Box, months planning and didn't happen yet. What is next?

 We had a great time backing 2-3 years ago, we succeed, lots of new
 people joining and lots of people leaving. We need to have
 credibility. It is vital.

 Lately I personaly, due to TSP, lost the credibility from some great
 openSUSEans cause we weren't able to follow our own rules to reimburse
 the travel costs within 40 days as discussed with SUSE and promised,
 so, rules? Ok, as TSP we need rules to assure the Program is able to
 help people to join oSC/Summit or present openSUSE worldwide, but
 again, with no marketing materials, with no marketing plans, with no
 marketing strategies, besides oSC and Summit,  won't be more than a
 paid trip.

 I've seen many people contributing and I'm thankful for have them
 around but there is something that I can't understand. We have people
 around that happened to make us proud more than once but why they are
 not able to at least be an openSUSE user! Did they love our community
 that is why they stay? Do they really believe in openSUSE? Just
 openSUSE opened the doors? Since we are a bunch of nice people is that
 why they join us? Are we failing having them around since not using
 openSUSE? #wearedoingsomethingwrong

 My points are to show that we have many aspects to care and work on...
 I really hope that you can see something for us to contribute
 together.

 So, please, stand up who is or wants to be part of openSUSE Marketing
 Team. If you do already just mention that you are around, if you are a
 simple follower please consider to join and tell us. If you just want
 to keep following tell us too cause your view will be necessary to
 keep us on track. Any contribution is seasonal. If you can be here now
 tell us.

 I hope our Artwork Team/Partners are inside Marketing mailing list, if
 not please someone call them. Marketing and Artwork need to work
 together. We rock better together!

 I'm writing now cause many things are being said from few perspectives
 and many decisions will be taken. If we don't stand up now we will be
 apart from marketing decisions and we will send for the rest of the
 project the idea that marketing is just necessary for Release times or
 advertise on twitter, facebook or G+! We must to be more than this, we
 are more than this.

 Where we can re-start.
 http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Marketing
 http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Marketing_team

 Please let's move and present a group initiative. We can do better.

 Thank you


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Hello,

We don't need ambassador-advocate or whatever name you want. We need
people that will do presentations, local events, local-global
presence. There's no reason to name someone advocate to make a
presentation. I know few local people that do that without being
active in the project (some use other distro). They just ask me for
promo materials (I give them what left overs I have). Having the term
advocate, we should have some Special Interest 

[opensuse-marketing] Report of our participation @ 78th Thessaloniki International Fair

[Efstathios Iosifidis (aka diamond_gr)]

Hello mates,

After a successful conference, we continue our presence in our country.
This time we were invited by Google Developers Group Thessaloniki [1] at 
78th Thessaloniki International Fair [2].


We created the wiki page [3] for our participation. You can find also 
the full report and some pictures.

For more pictures you can visit our facebook group [4].

We had a booth, some swag. There were about 5000 people passing by our 
booth (total visitors to Fair: ~10).
We talked to many people and many of them said that SUSE was their first 
distro.

The hotest question was: Why openSUSE and not Ubuntu?.
Apart from politicians and media that passed by Google's Playground and 
our booth, someone from China's embassy was interested. We gave him 
promo material and ways to contact us.


Have phun,
/S


[1] https://plus.google.com/103424383114732336071/posts
[2] http://www.helexpo.gr/default.aspx?lang=en-USloc=1page=2569
[3] https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:TIF2013
[4] https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=oa.680903761937196type=1

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Re: [opensuse-marketing] Release promo artwork

[Efstathios Iosifidis (aka diamond_gr)]

Στις 08/09/2013 12:35 μμ, ο/η Jos Poortvliet έγραψε:

On Saturday 07 September 2013 23:01:34 Victor Hck wrote:

did you see one pict that I send??
this one:
- https://www.dropbox.com/s/njjfwn3o7xdlrp5/Love_Geeko_soon.png

Ha, that is absolutely awesome. But please check with the girl-in-the-pic if
she's OK featuring on a bunch of openSUSE News articles :D


Alexandra doesn't like this version of the picture.
The initial image is already on openSUSE news and she's OK with it.



We have some more pics of people with geekos, if we would have, say, 3 or 4,
it wouldn't be too much focused on a single person-with-geeko...

I remember this picture: http://bit.ly/1agZMZQ (scroll down). I can't find the
author but we can ask Sakana, I'm sure he is willing to help find out who took
it :D

And there's this one: http://bit.ly/1e4Hm3C also from COSCUP and I don't know
the author either.

here's vincent untz with a geeko: http://bit.ly/1e4Hm3C (pic by AJ, maybe he
has a bigger one)

And michael Miller has this geeko, too: http://bit.ly/1dSfazG

Or maybe replace the tux here: http://bit.ly/14vdJUV (yeah, that's me, scary).
(yeah, I spend an hour googling to find these. Maybe just ask people to share
pics with big geekos?)

Hugs,
J



bye.

2013/9/7 Jos Poortvliet jospoortvl...@gmail.com:

Dear artwork and marketing folk,

Soonish I'd like to publish an article asking people to help promote the
upcoming openSUSE release! I've prepared a post but I need pretty pictures
:D

https://news.opensuse.org/?p=16835preview=true

Who helps me out?

/Jos



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[opensuse-gnome] Change YaST installation a bit and add a script about language setup

[Efstathios Iosifidis (aka diamond_gr)]

Hello lizards,

This might not be the right place to send this mail, but since I'm not 
subscribed to factory list (and I don't plan to suscribe), I would like 
to send here this idea. Please share it with factory or anyone else.


For the past 3 releases we have language installation problem. If 
someone choose to install openSUSE, for example in Greek, the result 
will be half Greek and half English (picture: blue is in Greek and other 
is in English [1]). Although many people reported this bug to bugzilla 
[2] and [3], nothing changed. openSUSE 11.4 was the last release that 
worked fine (even from the very first screen by pressing F2 button).


A proposal would be to change the fist screen of YaST installation, 
where it prompts for language. Change it to ONLY English.

When everything is set, I see 2 solutions.

1. PCLinuxOS has an icon on the desktop (adlocale) that prompts you to 
install your language settings. I guess it's an easy script.
2. GNOME has GNOME initial setup [4]. You can also read an article about 
it [5]. The idea is that after the installation, you get a prompt to 
setup online accounts, timezone, new user account, small tour about 
GNOME etc. By the way, although it says that we'll see it on GNOME 3.8, 
I didn't see it on Milestone 4.


The language installation can be done via YaST after installation 
(that's the solution we propose here).

But it's better to be done automatically after installation.

Something should be done about it since it's major issue to promote 
openSUSE.

Marketing cannot cover end users. End users also don't read release notes.
Many of my friends (that I helped to install openSUSE), they turned it 
to Linux Mint or Ubuntu (I guess for the simplicity they provide). 
Fedora and Ubuntu work fine with the language thing.

Please do something about it.
Thanks for reading.
Stathis


[1] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20413076/opensuse/12.3/bugs/language.jpg
[2] https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=807013
[3] https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=683292
[4] https://wiki.gnome.org/ThreePointFive/Features/InitialSetup
[5] 
http://worldofgnome.org/gnome-initial-setup-and-welcome-tour-how-it-works/


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[opensuse-gnome] openSUSE_GNOME twitter account

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Hello guys,

Since I use social media for many projects, I can use our account [1]. I 
saw that the last tweet was June 18, 2009.

Please let me know if it's OK and how can I have user/pass.

Have phun,
Stathis

[1] https://twitter.com/openSUSE_GNOME

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Re: [opensuse-gnome] Internet?

[Efstathios Iosifidis (aka diamond_gr)]

Στις 09/06/2013 10:28 μμ, ο/η RCB έγραψε:
I wanted to install your installation, I really did. Something besides 
Ubuntu! But I can't. There's no Internet!! A serious distro would have 
that enabled with no problem for the user. Ubuntu was no problem wired 
or wireless.

-Pete


Hello Pete,

That's a known problem for 12.3
Check out Release notes

Enable the network
https://www.suse.com/releasenotes/i386/openSUSE/12.3/RELEASE-NOTES.en.html#sec.123.systemd-nm

(personally I do it via yast)

Since you wrote here, there's a small GNOME issue that you can solve it
https://www.suse.com/releasenotes/i386/openSUSE/12.3/RELEASE-NOTES.en.html#idm1275344852

Have phun
Stathis

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Re: [opensuse-marketing] common language

[Efstathios Iosifidis]

On 06/01/2011 11:38 μμ, Helen wrote:

Well I've already written the short version, so there's some text
there, maybe it's useful maybe not.

I'm not going to spend too much time on beginner users, since they are
not our target market, though I agree that some background on license,
antivirus and so on is a good idea.

I don't deal well with endless stragetgy and meetings. Give me a task
to do and I get it done if I can.

Helen


I totally disagree with Helen,

Beginner users ARE our target market.

1. Microsoft wants beginner users so they have them addicted to their 
products. I think they're not focus on the server products as much as 
they care about programs for the mass. Until now their marketing on that 
is more than 100% success.
2. Beginner user doesn't care if the OS is with a green Start button, 
blue bar and meadow background. He/she cares to have a PC that will use 
to be productive (we focus on end user and not web administrator). Also 
cares weather he/she doesn't have to search for the software and the 
crack of the software (licences etc). Until now (I heard) that only 
Apple does that. You open your PC and you work.
3. Advance users, don't need us to make flyers with a nice text on them. 
They already know what openSUSE is all about and they already decide if 
openSUSE or any other distro is the best for them.


Well, that was one of many reasons I didn't fit with Greek Fedora 
community. They were searching for contributors and not end users. Until 
now, Greek openSUSE community joined events based on promotion of 
openSUSE to beginner users (either on Linux or advanced windows users 
that use cracked software).


Why don't we focus to flyers for schools? The kids are the next 
generations of computer users and admins.


Ubuntu in Greece is based on users. That's why they rule here, although 
they only joined 2-3 of tech events during the past year (they didn't 
make release party for 10.04 or 10.10).


Anyways, those are some of my thoughts.

Stathis
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