[opensuse] wlan and ndiswrapper

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i have a D-Link GW122 I'm running through ndiswrapper, comes up fine and
anything.  The thing is, though I have to wait until KDE is up to
actually switch on over because my system keeps trying the ethernet
card.  Is there anyway to make my system to to the wlan first?
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[opensuse] Strange sound problem

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I've started to have a problem where the sound on my system will go off
every once in a while, and I have to go into yast to reset the controls
on the card.  KMix has a plug icon located at the top that I haven't
seen.  Where exactly would I need to check and what log files would I
need to look at.
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Re: [opensuse] powerful graphical ftp software?

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Zhang Weiwu wrote:
> Dear all
>
> I am used to lftp, a very powerful commandline ftp software. I wish to
> introduce my colleague a ftp software that can help her maintain the
> website she's working on. She recently finished the move from Windows to
> OpenSuSE and feel happy about gftp.
>
> yet gftp is not powerful enough for her, what she want is an ftp
> software that can upload a folder of 200 files and:
>  I. if local file is newer than remote file (mdate), the file is
> changed locally and the file on the server should be
> overwritten;
> II. if local file is older than file on server or they have the same
> date, that file probably should be skipped.
>
> Having graphical user interface is important because if I start by
> suggesting commandline I have too much to explain to her, including
> concepts like current-working-directory, single dot and double dot. She
> is the kind of person think graphically, she knows it when she see it
> (e.g. she know it's a folder because it's a folder on screen) I do tried
> to introduce her commandline and failed more than once.
>
> gftp isn't good enough because as the version come with SuSE 10.2 it
> doesn't know to compare local file and remote file. I tried to compile a
> developing version which do implemented some logic on comparing which
> file should be uploaded, and it also have prolems:
>  I. if local file is newer and longer than remote file, the ftp
> client suggest resume upload, which is almost 100% incorrect
> thing to do for her;
> II. some file changed locally is simply missing in list of files to
> upload;
>III. it should highlight the file that it wishes to upload from a
> list of 200 files;
> IV. when she finally examed the long list of 200 files, change
> "resume" to "overwrite" etc, and click yes, the control
> connection already timed out;
>
> I also tried j-ftp, which simply don't know to do the compare logic
> (e.g. it runs mkdir when the directory on ftp server already exist,
> causing error).
>
> Also it's very useful for her that the ftp software can do character-set
> conversion on-the-fly, which is a good feature existing in gftp.
>
> Can you suggest something I can try? Or at least let me know a good
> solution is simply missing.
>
> Thanks a lot in advance!
>
>
>   

Try checking out KFTPGrabber
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[opensuse] Problems with Google Desktop and Thunderbird

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I've had Google Desktop and it seems that the plugin for thunderbird has
been crashing it.  Has anybody else had this behavior happen to them?
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[opensuse] libmath

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I'm having a problem locating the rpm that provides libmath for
OpenSuse, since I'm trying to compile the monopd server.  Since the only
source code is giving me errors on compilation--and I will provide those
off list--I'd like to located an rpm with the libmath.  I have one for
fedora, but before I force that one in I'd like to see if there is a
native rpm for OpenSuse 10.2
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[opensuse] OT: LPIC

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If anybody can point me towards some good references for the LPIC exams
(preferably off list).  I've been searching online, but all I have is
the Sybex book and since there is no exam pool I'd like something else
to study.

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Re: [opensuse] Reading Ebooks on Linux

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Fajar Priyanto wrote:
> On Tuesday 26 June 2007 18:48, Bo Bertilsson wrote:
>   
>> I have migrated totaly to SUSE and there is only one thing that really
>> bugs me, I used to be able to loan  Adobe Secure 7 files/*.edt)
>> Adobe Reader 7 seems not to haqve ported ii's ebooks reading function to
>> to this Linux version.
>> Now I cant lend books from the libraries at all.
>>
>> Is there aw way around this porblem?
>> The format is called Adobe Secure 7.
>> 
>
> Can you give us an example of that file? I've never heard of it.
>
>   
Sounds like Adobe's latest DRM model, which I doubt they will release on
Linux anytime soon, which means you're going to have to wait for the hack.

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Re: [opensuse] GoogleEarth

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Daniel Feiglin wrote:
> Pueblo Native wrote:
>   
>> Daniel Feiglin wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> Has anyone managed to get the current Linux release of GoogleEarth
>>> running under 10.2?
>>> It crashes with a double seg error.
>>> With the export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.10 hack, It claims that it cannot
>>> find various shared libraries, which are most definitely present.
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
>> Works fine for me.  When exactly does it crash?
>>
>>   
>> 
> It comes up, shows the logo graphic and then -
>
> Google Earth has caught signal 11.
>
> Another crash happened while handling crash!
>
>
>   

Hate to go instinctively to the command line, but. . .

When you type googleearth in a console window, what error do you get?

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Re: [opensuse] GoogleEarth

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Daniel Feiglin wrote:
> Has anyone managed to get the current Linux release of GoogleEarth
> running under 10.2?
> It crashes with a double seg error.
> With the export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.10 hack, It claims that it cannot
> find various shared libraries, which are most definitely present.
>   

Works fine for me.  When exactly does it crash?

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Re: [opensuse] HP Deskjet 3915

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Mike McMullin wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 16:26 -0600, Pueblo Native wrote:
>   
>> Mike McMullin wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 15:40 -0600, Pueblo Native wrote:
>>>   
>>>   
>>>> I tried to set it up with yast and the 3940 driver, but it didn't seem
>>>> to print (it sent out blank pages)  is that the right driver, or should
>>>> I be using another (I tried to locate 3915 in Yast but couldn't.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>   Is this an all in one unit, i.e. Printer Scanner, Copier?  If it is
>>> then you need to use hplip, and the hp-toolbox.
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
>> Nope.  Just a plain jane HP Deskjet 3915, the kind you only get because
>> of the rebate.
>> 
>
>   I did a fast Google for HP Deskjet 3915 + driver and there are some
> good results
> including on for hplip, the minimum version number being 0.9.5.  It
> seems to use the hpijs driver.  Normally hp-toolbox seems to get
> installed, check under system and utilities in the SuSE menu.  Also have
> a truck over to the hplip site on sourceforge for more info.  IIRC you
> are on 10.2, so the version of hplip shipped ought to have the required
> PPD file, it's just a question of finding it.
>
>   BTW if Marcus Meisner responds to this, do exactly what he says.  He's
> SuSE's and the lists resident printer dude.
>
>   

Guess it finally came out when I went into the Personal Settings for
KDE. Go fig.  Thanks for the help, and laters.

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Re: [opensuse] You can say NO to the Microsoft Office format as an ISO standard

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Joe Morris (NTM) wrote:
> Pueblo Native wrote:
>   
>> While some of these points may have more or less merit to them, the
>> first one is a no-starter:
>> "There is *already a standard ISO26300 named Open Document Format
>> (ODF)*: a dual standard adds cost to industry, government and citizens;"
>>
>> Now, I use OO and love it, but I am not so arrogant as to assume that it
>> is or should be the ONLY standard out there.  Let a thousand flowers
>> bloom and let the consumer decide what they want.  As long as they have
>> that power, I'm happy even if they choose Microsoft's OXML format.
>>   
>> 
> So as I understand your comment, when it comes to a standard, we should
> all have our own?  Or even worse, Microsoft should decide what can and
> cannot be in it?  IMO, this OXML is Microsoft's attempt to circumvent
> the standard ODF as they cannot compete on a level playing field.  IMHO,
> standards are no place for variety.  Let applications compete for how
> well they support the standards, but with multiple targets, it only
> ensures no (or all) will be hit.  I would rather adhere to one standard,
> and as its limits are exposed, to amend the one standard rather than
> have 100 so-called standards.  Already signed the petition.
>
>   
Yeah, and I'm sure presenting an internet petition to a standards body
is going to have a whole lot of importance when ISO decides whether or
not to accept Microsoft's standard.  Why stop there?  Why not present
that petition to Microsoft.  I'm sure that once Ballmer sees all those
self-certifying "signatures" he's going to raise his hands in surrender
and announce that Office will only be using Open Document Format.
Technical specs aside, if Microsoft wants to push out its own standard,
well and good.  As long as consumers have the choice that's what it is
about.  Not if Microsoft wins or if OpenOffice wins.


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Re: [opensuse] You can say NO to the Microsoft Office format as an ISO standard

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While some of these points may have more or less merit to them, the
first one is a no-starter:
"There is *already a standard ISO26300 named Open Document Format
(ODF)*: a dual standard adds cost to industry, government and citizens;"

Now, I use OO and love it, but I am not so arrogant as to assume that it
is or should be the ONLY standard out there.  Let a thousand flowers
bloom and let the consumer decide what they want.  As long as they have
that power, I'm happy even if they choose Microsoft's OXML format.

Richard Bos wrote:
> Please sign the petition here : http://www.noooxml.org/petition/
> (cookies have to be enabled for this site)
>
>   


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Re: [opensuse] HP Deskjet 3915

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Mike McMullin wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 15:40 -0600, Pueblo Native wrote:
>   
>> I tried to set it up with yast and the 3940 driver, but it didn't seem
>> to print (it sent out blank pages)  is that the right driver, or should
>> I be using another (I tried to locate 3915 in Yast but couldn't.
>> 
>
>   Is this an all in one unit, i.e. Printer Scanner, Copier?  If it is
> then you need to use hplip, and the hp-toolbox.
>
>   
Nope.  Just a plain jane HP Deskjet 3915, the kind you only get because
of the rebate.

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[opensuse] HP Deskjet 3915

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I tried to set it up with yast and the 3940 driver, but it didn't seem
to print (it sent out blank pages)  is that the right driver, or should
I be using another (I tried to locate 3915 in Yast but couldn't.
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Re: [opensuse] Certification

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James Knott wrote:
> Pueblo Native wrote:
>   
>> I sent an e-mail to the LPI about this, but if anybody here knows the
>> answer, I'd appreciate it: on average, how long do exams 101 and 102
>> last?  I'd like to know this so I can schedule my tests without having
>> them run over each other (the closest testing facility is 30 miles north
>> of where I am).
>>   
>> 
> Perhaps you should be asking the testing facility if there's a time
> limit on the tests.
>
>
>   

The testing facility (Pearson) punts it over to LPI, and the closest I
can find on the FAQ (
http://www.lpi.org/en/lpi/english/certification/faq) is this:

Under our pilot item testing process, English-language exams
administered at Prometric and VUE testing centers are extended to 120
minutes in order to allow a limited number of new pilot questions to be
seeded into each exam. While scores on these new items are not included
as part of candidate scores, they are used to determine item validity
and quality before the items become part of the pool of official, scored
exam questions. In order for the evaluation of new questions to be valid
and useful, LPI cannot indicate which items on each exam are new items.
In addition to this change, the exam forms for LPI exams are changed
with greater frequency. 


I'll see what I can find out in their user forums.



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[opensuse] Certification

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I sent an e-mail to the LPI about this, but if anybody here knows the
answer, I'd appreciate it: on average, how long do exams 101 and 102
last?  I'd like to know this so I can schedule my tests without having
them run over each other (the closest testing facility is 30 miles north
of where I am).
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Re: [opensuse] Crazy Ubuntu, can you believe it??!

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Andy Harrison wrote:
>
>
> On 6/20/07, Kai Ponte  wrote:
>
>
> > I was thinking of this. What if you have multiple virtual machines or
> > remote machines running being accessed from each side of the cube?
> > That would be nice.
>
>
> If the purpose of the machine is to run multiple virtual machines, it
> seems like a bad idea to run what is still basically an experimental
> window manager.
>

Plus, wouldn't it be less taxing on the machine if you set up those
virtual machines as virtual desktops?

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Re: [opensuse] Oo Question

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Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
> On 06/19/2007 Dave Barton wrote:
>   
>> Menu "Insert -> Picture -> Scan"
>>
>> If you mean OCR directly, the answer is no.
>>
>> Dave
>> 
>
> Thanks. I was afraid of that.
>
>   

Check out the ocrad package if you want to do OCR.

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Re: [opensuse] automatic logon

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Mikus Grinbergs wrote:
> I set up a 10.2 system for a friend, such that when the system is
> booted the GUI session for his id comes up automatically (no manual
> logon needed).  That part works well.
>
> But once in a while I would like to log my friend's session off -- and
> manually log in another id in its place.  However, if I log out of his
> session, that session is __automatically__ started right up again. 
> What I've been reduced to is to use "New Logon", and have the other
> GUI session be in *addition* to the original session.
>
> Is there a simple way (e.g., without going into maintenance mode) how
> I can close the automatic session, and __not__ have it restart ?
>
> mikus
>
I've never had that happen on me even with automatic logon.  Do you
happen to have passwordless logins set as well?
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[opensuse] xdtv and recording

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Hello all:
I've tried myth tv a couple of times and found it in my case unwieldly
to use as a DVR.  xdtv, on the other hand, has been a snap when I am
there.  I would like to know if I can set xdtv up to record a program
when I am not there (hopefully in the background so that the TV card
does not fire up).
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[opensuse] Got the Durabrand SF-MW205 working

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Guess the charger cradle doesn't work for crap, but all in all a fairly
decent optical mouse so far.
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Re: [opensuse] Duraband USB Mouse

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BandiPat wrote:
> On Thursday 14 June 2007, Pueblo Native wrote:
>   
>> What's the easiest way to get my system to use the USB mouse instead
>> of the PS/2 one?
>> 
>
> --
> Use the USB to PS/2 adapter that came with the mouse!  ;-p
>
> Otherwise, I think you'll have to adjust the BIOS to use or start USB 
> devices right away and then run sax2 to again setup your graphics and 
> mouse, etc.
>
> Lee
>   

By the way, here's what yast is reporting:
69: USB 00.0: 10503 USB Mouse
  [Created at usb.122]
  UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_62a_0_noserial_if0
  Unique ID: MtLc.MNeZkTWIK65
  Parent ID: k4bc.er+aLfBntNE
  SysFS ID: /devices/pci:00/:00:0b.0/usb1/1-6/1-6:1.0
  SysFS BusID: 1-6:1.0
  Hardware Class: mouse
  Model: "USB Mouse"
  Hotplug: USB
  Vendor: usb 0x062a
  Device: usb 0x
  Compatible to: int 0x0210 0x0015
  Driver: "usbhid"
  Driver Modules: "usbhid"
  Device File: /dev/input/mice (/dev/input/mouse1)
  Device Files: /dev/input/mice, /dev/input/mouse1, /dev/input/event3,
/dev/input/by-id/usb-062a_-event-mouse,
/dev/input/by-path/pci-:00:0b.0-usb-0:6:1.0-event-mouse,
/dev/input/by-id/usb-062a_-mouse,
/dev/input/by-path/pci-:00:0b.0-usb-0:6:1.0-mouse
  Device Number: char 13:63 (char 13:33)
  Speed: 1.5 Mbps
  Module Alias: "usb:v062Apddc00dsc00dp00ic03isc01ip02"
  Driver Info #0:
Buttons: 5
Wheels: 1
XFree86 Protocol: explorerps/2
GPM Protocol: exps2
  Config Status: cfg=no, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
  Attached to: #64 (Hub)

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[opensuse] Duraband USB Mouse

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What's the easiest way to get my system to use the USB mouse instead of
the PS/2 one?
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Re: [opensuse] iConcepts WebCam

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Mike McMullin wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 06:52 -0600, Pueblo Native wrote:
>   
>> Will Stephenson wrote:
>> 
>>> On Saturday 09 June 2007, Mike McMullin said:
>>>   
>>>   
>>>> On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 17:55 -0600, Pueblo Native wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 093a:2468 Pixart Imaging, Inc. Easy Snap Snake
>>>>>   
>>>>>   
>>> And those drivers are waiting for you in the build service - project 
>>> drivers:webcam.
>>>
>>> Will
>>>   
>>>   
>> Driver worked quite nicely, at least under Ekiga. (Camelot keeps
>> crashing for some odd reason).
>> 
>
>   Well that's nice to know, at least.  :)
>
>   
Now what I really want to know is if there is a client that interacts
with Yahoo chat where I can use the webcam to talk to my son.
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[opensuse] Writing new files to NFTS partitions

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Hi all,
I had somebody tell me that there's a new tool on the Ubuntu that lets
you create new files on an NFTS partition.  I haven't read anything
about the tools being that developed (the most that I've heard is that
you can edit existing files, but not create new ones).  Does anybody
know if this is possible at this time?

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Re: [opensuse] iConcepts WebCam

[Pueblo Native]

Will Stephenson wrote:
> On Saturday 09 June 2007, Mike McMullin said:
>   
>> On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 17:55 -0600, Pueblo Native wrote:
>> 
>>> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 093a:2468 Pixart Imaging, Inc. Easy Snap Snake
>>>   
> And those drivers are waiting for you in the build service - project 
> drivers:webcam.
>
> Will
>   


Driver worked quite nicely, at least under Ekiga. (Camelot keeps
crashing for some odd reason).
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Re: [opensuse] iConcepts WebCam

[Pueblo Native]

Mike McMullin wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 11:16 -0600, Pueblo Native wrote:
>   
>> I picked one of these up on a clearance bin, just for SK & Gs, and
>> wondering if anybody's been able to make this work under Linux?
>> 
>
>   If yo could pass up the results of lsusb as it concerns this device
> then you could possibly get some info back.  ;)
>
>   
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 093a:2468 Pixart Imaging, Inc. Easy Snap Snake
Eye WebCam


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[opensuse] iConcepts WebCam

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I picked one of these up on a clearance bin, just for SK & Gs, and
wondering if anybody's been able to make this work under Linux?
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Re: [opensuse] KDE Favorites menu

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Michal Zugec wrote:
> Andrew Syrewicze  wrote / napísal(a):
>   
>> This is probably a really simple question so i hope i don't get flamed too 
>> bad 
>> for it   =/  
>>
>> How do I edit the favorites list of apps in the KDE menu???
>> 
>
>
> Right button, drag&drop, ... ;-)
>
>   

Oh yeah, here the Help Documentation is actually in pretty decent shape:
file:///usr/share/doc/manual/opensuse-manual_en/manual/sec.kde.cust.mm.html

I exaggerate, but it seems that at some places at least the graphical
help system seems to have several gaping holes when it comes to certain
products.  Maybe it's just me, maybe I didn't set things up right, just
my $.02

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Re: [opensuse] KDE Favorites menu

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Michal Zugec wrote:
> Andrew Syrewicze  wrote / napísal(a):
>   
>> This is probably a really simple question so i hope i don't get flamed too 
>> bad 
>> for it   =/  
>>
>> How do I edit the favorites list of apps in the KDE menu???
>> 
>
>
> Right button, drag&drop, ... ;-)
>
>   

If you are using the Susestyle menu, right click on the item, Add to
Favorites
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Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice dictionary wizard

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Petr Mladek wrote:
> On Thursday 07 June 2007 00:26, James Knott wrote:
>   
>> I've notice that the Novell/SUSE version of OpenOffice doesn't have the
>> dictionary wizard, that's included with other versions.  Why is that?
>> 
>
> We did not want to dupplicate the functionality. We currently provide >75 RPM 
> packages with myspell dictionaries. They are installed to the system, so they 
> are shared between all users and other applications.
>
> What dictionary are you missing?
>
>
>   
It doesn't hurt, though, if you run dicooo.sxw in OpenOffice.

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Re: [opensuse] Kmoon

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Clive Rogers wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I have searched the achieves and can find nothing to help there.
> I have SuSE 10.2 and running KDE.  I have the kmoon applet running which is 
> out of sync with reality.  
>
> Anyone got any clues to putting this right ? 
>
>   
Okay, exactly how is it running where you are (and are you in the right
hemisphere?)

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Re: [opensuse] Publisher alternatives

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Doug McGarrett wrote:
> Yes, I know UNIX programs are horrendously expensive, but they are such
> because the purchasers are going to make a lot of money using them.  (Does
> the expression "Microsoft" ring a bell?)  If you really need a "real" 
> publishing system, you are probably making money using it.  Pay the tab.
>
>   
While not completely disagreeing with you, I think there are a couple of
levels between professional publisher and home user.  The most common
one I would think of is a person who runs a small newsletter for an
organization or club of some sort.  They don't need _all_ the features
of an InDesign, but they would like the publication to come off a little
more professionally.  Another group might be people that run a
professional document, but infrequently (an annual or semi-annual
report) and their primary business is not publishing.  I really wouldn't
want to shell out close to a grand for a program I use very infrequently.




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Re: [opensuse] Publisher alternatives

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Kai Ponte wrote:
> On Wed, May 30, 2007 9:15 am, Ken Jennings wrote:
>   
>> (Does it have to be "free" as in zero cost?) As far as DTP features go
>> I'd
>> recommend PageStream.  http://www.grasshopperllc.com
>> 
>
> Well, I downloaded it. First impressions aren't that great, but I'm
> sure it would work. It didn't easily let me wrap text in a box nor did
> it have any templates for me to start from.
>
> On top of that, it is a SDI app - yech. I can't tell you how annoying
> SDI apps are to me.
>
> All the same, if I'm needing DTP, I might buy it. It would be worth
> $99 to give Linux DTP more support.
>
>   
I'm not completely biased against commercial software, but it would
depend upon circumstances.  I'm sure your going to have some people
scratching their heads asking why they would delete publisher and
purchase another program (as opposed to a free download like
OpenOffice).  Of course, if they're looking to buy or upgrade, it would
be a whole different discussion.  I guess it depends upon why they are
moving.
>
>   

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[opensuse] Amarok 1.4.5 and MySQL

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Can somebody tell me which packages I need installed so that Amarok can
store my music library on a MySQL database?
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Re: [opensuse] opensuse repositories now illegal in Germany

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Fajar Priyanto wrote:
> On Tuesday 29 May 2007 05:20, Thomas Hertweck wrote:
>   
>> Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm confused. Can someone sum this up for me? I'm from USA.
>>>   
>> Last Thursday, the German parliament passed a concept that had been
>> proposed by the German government parties. The concept concerns the
>> German criminal code and is meant to tighten laws against cybercrime.
>>
>> According to the new §202c, anybody who prepares a crime by building,
>> supplying, distributing or making available passwords or security codes
>> for data access or typical computer programs whose purpose is to prepare
>> or commit such a crime, can be fined or sent to jail for up to one year.
>> There were other changes concerning §202, but the one mentioned above is
>> the one most criticized.
>>
>> Many people say that it's not possible to distinguish between programs
>> that might be used to prepare a crime and programs that serve to detect
>> vulnerabilities and secure computer systems (I personally agree with
>> that statement). Therefore, §202c could criminalize many tools that are
>> frequently used these days, for instance port scanners etc. There is no
>> clear definition given in §202c and at the end of the day a German court
>> might have to decide in individual cases. The intention of §202c,
>> however, seems to be to criminalize only software that might cause a
>> "damage".
>>
>> In order to become a law, the concept has to pass the German Bundesrat
>> (upper house of the German parliament) as well. This could happen in
>> July. Then the new concept would become a law shortly thereafter.
>>
>> It could affect openSUSE (in Germany) since the distribution of programs
>> that fall into above mentioned category (yet to be clearly defined) is
>> then forbidden.
>> 
>
> A knife can be used to kill someone. So, does that mean that we are not 
> allowed to have a knife?
> This is so stupid. I can't believe it.
>   

This is what happens when you let the politicians who have been reading
"Computer security for dummies" try to pass legislation. 
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Re: [opensuse] Publisher alternatives

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jdd wrote:
> G T Smith wrote:
>
>> There is bit more to it that .. DTP publishers also output marks used to
>> align copy to professional printing presses and had support for some of
>> the formats used. A volume printer is somewhat different beast to a
>> desktop laser.
>
> I don't speak of professional work, here, I never could (nor will :-)
> use xpress...
>
> make pro work with publisher??
>
> jdd
>
Maybe I should have titled this "InDesign alternatives" then.

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Re: [opensuse] Publisher alternatives

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jdd wrote:
>
> But on a news paper, on can see the beginning of an article on the
> front page and the following on an other page or on an other column of
> the same page
>

By the way, what you mentioned is known as a "jump".   It's not
necessarily considered the best practice.  But I get what you are saying
in regards to the text frames.
> Notice than I use some old version of publiser by microsoft and it was
> a very good application, verye asy to use (I used it in classroom with
> pupils), much easier than PageMaker or Ventura (you see, I'm an old
> timer :-) I do not use such progamms for at least 3 years now, so I
> don'"t know what happen

Didn't know what happened to what?  Pagemaker became InDesign.
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Re: [opensuse] Small database program?

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Nick Zentena wrote:
> On Saturday 26 May 2007 19:29, Pueblo Native wrote:
>
>   
>> Well, we got a pretty good list of database programs here.
>> The only thing I would ask you is what do you mean by "simple".  Do you
>> mean all the fields set up and you don't have to do much work (tellico
>> or a small niche database) or one with few bells and whistles (Calc
>> spreadsheet)?
>> 
>
>   
>   I think Openoffice Base is going to work for me. I've had to redo 
> things a 
> few times. But I'm getting closer to something that does what I need. It 
> would have been easier if I kept my eyes open the first time but redoing it 
> hasn't hurt. We'll so how well things go when I get serious about inputting 
> the data. So far I've only added about five records.
>
>   Nick
>   
Whatever you use, don't spend too much time reinventing the wheel.  I'd
try to find a template that matches your needs generally if not preciesely.
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Re: [opensuse] Publisher alternatives

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jdd wrote:
>
> think at what make these apps different. I did some years ago and
> found only one: the ability to have a text span several boxes
>
> and this can be achieved in OpenOffice .org.
>
> It's not obvious and I don't remember the recipe, but it can be done...

My original idea was that the biggest difference between these products
was how they treated text.  In a word processor, for instance, most of
the time text was text.  In a DTP product, on the other hand, text is a
design element, just like photos and other graphics.  That was my
original concept, and I think that's pretty much gotten smashed.
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Re: [opensuse] Small database program?

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James Knott wrote:
> I only meant that for a simple database, a spreadsheet suffices.
>
>   

That should teach me to respond to the right e-mail.  Acutally, I was
trying to ask Nick what his definition of "simple" was: functionality or
set up time.



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Re: [opensuse] Publisher alternatives

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BandiPat wrote:
> On Thursday 24 May 2007, Pueblo Native wrote:
>   
>> I'm putting together a document listing alternatives for Microsoft
>> Publisher, and so far I can only think of Scribus.  Are there any
>> others out there that show  promise?
>> 
>
> ==
>
> Take a look at KWrite.  They have added several dtp features to it and 
> it really shows promise.  There are still so many things missing from 
> Scribus and it's still not very intuitive to use, so it's not the open 
> & use type program.  If you're just needing something simple, KWrite 
> may fill the void.  You can also get PageStream, if you want a full 
> featured dtp program.  You can download a trial version and sadly it's 
> not free, but the cost is not bad either for a mature program that it 
> is.
>
>   

I'll take a look at it, though with all the cross over between
traditional DTP and office software, you wonder if you can even draw
that line anymore.
What I'm looking at more is putting together a list of the office
programs (Outlook, Publisher, Frontpage) for which there is no direct
equivalent  in OpenOffice.  Being a journalism student myself, I could
see three major levels of people who may be looking for the DTP software.

Level 1:  Newsletter publisher (church, small school, etc), a one time
document that may need some touches but really doesn't need to be fine
tuned.
Level  2: Student newspaper (college/high school), maybe small town
newspaper that might be still published on the weekly or monthly basis
but still has a professional feel to it.
Level 3: Daily Newspaper and beyond (book publisher, magazine, something
that absolutely needs spot on color separation and other high level
features).
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Re: [opensuse] Small database program?

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James Knott wrote:
> Nick Zentena wrote:
>   
>>  Is there something small and simple? All I want is to set up a simple 
>> home 
>> database. Items,serial numbers maybe a couple more fields. Every time I go 
>> looking all I seem to find is stuff geared at running a Fortune 500 company.
>>
>>  Thanks
>>  Nick
>>   
>> 
> You can use a spread sheet app, such as OpenOffice Calc.  Here's some
> info on doing that.
> http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/oooauthors2/0313CG-CalcAsASimpleDatabase.pdf
>
>
>   
Well, we got a pretty good list of database programs here.
The only thing I would ask you is what do you mean by "simple".  Do you
mean all the fields set up and you don't have to do much work (tellico
or a small niche database) or one with few bells and whistles (Calc
spreadsheet)?

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[opensuse] Publisher alternatives

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I'm putting together a document listing alternatives for Microsoft
Publisher, and so far I can only think of Scribus.  Are there any others
out there that show  promise?
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[opensuse] Help about help

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I'm trying to put together an article not so much to help the user
directly with OpenOffice, but training them as to how to find the
answers themselves in a methodical way (From looking through the help
screens to searching the site to searching the archives before finally
asking a mailing list.).   Has this been done before?  If somebody is
interested, I'd be happy to share what I've put together so far.
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Re: [opensuse] Evolution vs. Thunderbird

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Martin Mielke wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> far from wanting another "religious war"... is it me or is Evolution more 
> feature-rich than Thunderbird?
>
>   


Maybe, but then again, there might be some situations where you don't
want all those features.The IMAP is intriguing though.  I set up my
AIM account with Evolution and will give it a spin, but I think I'll
stay with Thunderbird, if only for my own irrational reasons
(integration with GMail + I've been with it so long).  It never spells a
good thing when all the world chooses only one software; makes it too
easy for script kiddies and such.
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Re: [opensuse] Removal of OT posters Was: Now this gives "Playing with your pingus" a whole new meaning

[Pueblo Native]

Russell Jones creatively edited:
> JB2 wrote:
>> On Mon 21 May 07 21:51, Pueblo Native wrote:
>>
>>  
>>> ...throw yourself in front of an oncoming semi.
>>> 
>>
>>   Test that for us and tell us how it comes out.
>>  

After you, my good pal, since you're so fond of taking words out of context.
If you want to ignore somebody do so, but to publicly announce it as
though you matter to that particular person or anybody else just smacks
of  ego and  self-importance.  I'm not here to win a popularity contest
and I doubt anybody really cares who you ignore,  or whatever you
wish to do to put on the blinders.  There are people on this list that
could put drama queens of both genders to shame.  Check yourself.
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Re: [opensuse] Re: [OT] Now this gives "Playing with your pingus" a whole new meaning

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Joachim Schrod wrote:
> Thank you for providing another entry for my KILL file.
>
> Joachim
>
And we care about your kill file for what reason again. . .?

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Re: [opensuse] User loses GNOME desktop (SuSE 10.0)

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john wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-05-21 at 21:39 -0400, James Knott wrote:
>   
>> John O'Gorman wrote:
>> 
>>> One user has a corrupted GNOME desktop.
>>> When he logs in, about 3 icons show, no task bar, no menus.
>>> Lots of error dialogue boxes pop up.
>>>
>>> Dozens of error messages:
>>> GConf Error: Adding client to server's l;ist failed, CORBA error:
>>> IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0
>>>
>>> The book suggested renaning .gconf and .gnome2 (actually misprinted
>>> as ./gconf and ./gnome2). I did this. When the user logged in again, no
>>> change.
>>>
>>> All other users are OK.
>>> I added another user - OK also.
>>>
>>> This is not a show-stopper as he can use KDE instead and that still
>>> works.
>>>
>>> OS is SuSE 10.0. All the users are logging in on thin clients (LTSP
>>> Linux Terminal Server Project) which have worked fine for 5 years.
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
>> If he deletes the directories containing the gnome stuff and logs in
>> with gnome, he should be OK, though he'll have lost all his settings.
>> 
>
> That's what I thought we had done by mv'ing .gconf and .gnome2
> I also mv'ed .gnome
> The dirs all got rebuilt but the bug remained.
> There must be some other dirs as well. Does anyone know what they are?
>
> John O'Gorman
>   
>> -- 
>> Use OpenOffice.org 
>> 
>
>   

How about .xinitrc?
And this sounds a bit extreme, but on the presumption that this is the
only user being affected, have you thought about tarballing his
directory, deleting, and adding him again?

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Re: [opensuse] [OT] Now this gives "Playing with your pingus" a whole new meaning

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JB2 wrote:
> On Mon 21 May 07 14:01, Brad Bourn wrote:
>   
>> woot!
>>
>> last word
>> 
>
>   No, you twit, this is the last word...  you are now 
>
>   

Oh no, Brad, JB2 has plonked you, what  will you ever do?  Do you just
drown your sorrows in liquor, or throw yourself in front of an oncoming
semi.  Oh the sheer horror of it all.  Oh the humanity.

You like.  It's the most dramatic I could think of on short notice.

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Re: [opensuse] Simple RPM question

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Jorge Fábregas wrote:
> Hello guys,
>
> Is there a way to remove a package and ALL its dependencies? For example, I 
> installed mplayer and I had to install 9 other packages to satisfy 
> dependencies.  If I no longer want mplayer I'll do this:
>
> rpm -q --last
>
> to see the last packages I installed. I"ll then do "rpm -e" with EACH one of 
> them.  I noticed that you can only specify one package with the remove 
> switch...It will be great If I could "rpm -e this,that,the-other-one, blabla" 
> or something like "rpm -e MPlayer --along-dependencies" :)  (if and only 
> those packages are needed only by MPlayer of course...).
>
>
>   

And therein lies the catch.  To do what you would suggest you would have
to have to recode rpm to do what you are talking about.  And what's so
bad about a shell script?  I'll grant you, it's not easy, but if I
wanted easy I would have stayed with Microsoft.  On the plus side, you
don't have to wait around for somebody to recode rpm (of course, you
could also attempt that).

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Re: [Re: [opensuse] Seeking Simple Image Editing Tool for Web Development]

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Munkii wrote:
>  Forwarded Message 
>   
>> From: Randall R Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Subject: Re: [opensuse] Seeking Simple Image Editing Tool for Web
>> Development
>> Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 15:44:48 -0700
>>
>> On Saturday 19 May 2007 12:16, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
>> 
>>> Try KDE Kolourpaint.
>>>
>>> It's part of "kdegraphics3-imaging" package.
>>>   
>> As I said, I tried everything in my KDE -> Graphics -> Image Editing 
>> menu, including KolourPaint. It's as crappy as the rest of them.
>>
>> 
>
> i recommend Inkscape (can't believe nobody mentioned it so far), it's a
> vector drawing app, and it supports everything you can think off,
> personally i do all my web graphics on, i'm no expert, so apparently
> it's the easiest way to go, not to say it's not suitable for advanced
> drawing/image-manipulation.
>   

While Inkscape is a good application, given the requirements, wouldn't
that be like suggesting Illustrator for something you could use
Paintbrush for?
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Re: [opensuse] ndiswrapper

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Danesh Daroui wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have problem with ndiswrapper. It used to work without problem.
> After I reinstalled OpenSuSE, I downloaded ndiswrapper and compiled it
> and installed ".inf" files from Windows driver. It also shows that
> drivers are installed, but my wireless card will never be activated. I
> re-compiled ndiswrapper and it still doesn't work. I also can not
> uninstall drivers, installed by ndiswrapper and they still are there
> however I re-compiled ndiswrapper. Can anybody help?
>
> D.
Okay, I'll ask the dumb questions:

1.  Have you modprobed ndiswrapper
2.  Are you having your kernel load that module when it boots?
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Re: [opensuse] [OT] Now this gives "Playing with your pingus" a whole new meaning

[Pueblo Native]

G T Smith wrote:
> Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> > * Pueblo Native <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05-19-07 20:47]:
> >> http://www.todaysthv.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=46127
> >>
> >> Damn, I knew I was spending too much time inviting friends over to play
> >> with my pingus, thank goodness they were girls . . .;-)
> > You admit that your post is "Offtopic".   It doesn't belong here.
> > There is an offtopic list, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Please
> > utilize it.


Actually, GT Smith, it is more on topic than you think, in that first
off, I need to check the contents of my klipper before I do a
cut-copy-paste job.  THIS was the article that I was referring to:

http://cbs4.com/entertainment/local_story_137115622.html

The Arkansas child support story was something completely unrelated

Anyway, I pulled up that story, then started looking through my games,
just thought it was an odd one (and a slow news day at that matter)

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[opensuse] [OT] Now this gives "Playing with your pingus" a whole new meaning

[Pueblo Native]

http://www.todaysthv.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=46127

Damn, I knew I was spending too much time inviting friends over to play
with my pingus, thank goodness they were girls . . .;-)
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Re: [opensuse] Mail Program wanted?

[Pueblo Native]

Jerry Feldman wrote:
> On Tue, 15 May 2007 21:40:07 +0200
> "Theo v. Werkhoven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> Scripting languages like Python, Perl, Ruby etc have libraries for
>> both sending and receiving email, and parsing RFC2822 + MIME data.
>> Those languages are mature on all relevant platforms, and all have
>> good development tools.
>> Why would you you a proprietary system when you can use a open (and
>> free) system?
>> 
> I have been using claws-mail (www.claws-mail.org) for a number of
> years. It includes a perl plugin for advanced searches. While Eudora is
> an excellent product, IMHO, you are probably better off using a product
> that is natively built on Linux. Claws supports both Windows and Linux,
> is actively maintained. You can build from source or install from RPMs.
> The two features that I like are that it fully supports MH folders (as
> well as MBOX), and it can access the jpilot address book directly. My
> wife has Eudora, and I find that claws has much of the same
> functionality. But, one capability that claws does not have is the
> ability to send html (IMHO a good thing). 
>   

Thanks for the alert.  I'm going to have to check this one out on my
spare time.
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Re: [opensuse] Microsoft claims software like Linux violates its patents - May 28, 2007

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James D. Parra wrote:
> This is a good article;
>
> http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/12212/53/
>
> "Even if hypothetically there are patent infringements in the Linux kernel,
> then the open source community would do the right thing and remove the
> offending code and, because open source development moves so rapidly, that
> means Linux would no longer be infringing before it even got to court. So
> even if Microsoft did have a case, by the time it got to court the case
> would be gone and whatever damages that they were able to ask for would be
> very minimal."
>
> ~James 
>   

Thus explaining Microsoft's refusal to name patents.  I doubt that, even
given the argument that some court finds some of these patents valid,
Microsoft would WANT that code removed.  Kinda like SCO.
And I still want to know the date on those patents Microsoft claims that
it has and when it actually noticed this.

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Re: [opensuse] cannot see wireless networks (Suse 10.0)

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James D. Parra wrote:
> Sometimes mine will do that, so what I usually do is
>
> su
> pccardctl eject
> pccardctl insert
> rcnetwork restart
>
> Basically, I just want to get the card to restart itself, and then get
> reinitialized.
>
> ~

On another subject, I used to have that happen a lot with my wired
network card.  Bugs the hell out of me.  But with my GW-122 dongle, I
just make sure ndiswrapper is loaded at boot, and everything works like
a charm.  The only problem I have is that KNetworkManager by default
tries to start the ethernet card first.  Is there anyway to stop that.
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[opensuse] Penelope

[Pueblo Native]

I've been following the thread about interfacing with a mail program
(specifically Eudora).  So I went over to Eudora and looked up
Penelope.  http://wiki.mozilla.org/Penelope  I'm rather dense, so I
can't exactly understand what in the world are they planning to do. 
They say they don't want to compete with Thunderbird; they just want to
"compliment" it.  What exactly does that mean?  Is Thunderbird going to
end up looking more like Eudora?  I'd personally prefer that they would
straight out compete (survival of the fittest and all), but whatever
they plan on doing it's confusing me.
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Re: [opensuse] [OT] - Australian extradited to US to stand trial - US penitentiary????????????? NO NO NO

[Pueblo Native]

Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> * Pueblo Native <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05-14-07 23:13]:
>   
>> Patrick Shanahan wrote:
>> 
>>> * M Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05-14-07 16:47]:
>>>  [...]
>>>   
>>>   
>>>>Anyway, you could setup a filter for [opensuse][OT] and just send them 
>>>> to /dev/null and not worry about it. As long as the message is either 
>>>> directed to the off-topic list, or at least flagged [OT] then I dont see a 
>>>> problem... but thats just me.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> So, if I don't see the guy raping the girl across the street, it's ok,
>>> but that's just you ??
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
>> Okay, would you like to take a moment to examine how retarded that
>> statement is, or would you like us to do it for you?
>> 
>
>
> You do as YOU please.  You seem to take that avenue anyway.  JUST put
> it into the proper forum, not the "technical" forum, opensuse.
>
>   

Coming from somebody who has known rape victims in the past, for you to
compare ignoring OT threads with ignoring a victim crying out for help
from sexual assault is incomprehensible at best and borders on the
obscene at worst.



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Re: [opensuse] What's the point with 64 bit

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M Harris wrote:
> On Monday 14 May 2007 22:28, Randall R Schulz wrote:
>   
>>> otherwise).  So then, if there is no speed advantage, what's the
>>> point in even having a 64 bit processor right now?
>>>   
>> Addressing large virtual address spaces and / or installing large
>> amounts of physical RAM.
>>
>> If you don't need one or both of these things, it's just overhead
>> without payback.
>> 
>   Although the analogy is going to be a little contrived, its something 
> like 
> the concept of cylinders in an internal combustion engine... there were cars 
> made back in the 30s-50s with 10, 12, and 16 cylinders...   but due to 
> harmonics, balance, and other issues (8) seems to be the best (optimum) 
> number of cylinders.  von Neumann processors are going to be similar... my 
> gut feeling is that 32 bit width is going to be optimum and that 64 bit is 
> the beginning of the end of no returns. I mean if PCs really ever do need to 
> have more than 4gig of real storage/virtual storage then.. .maybe.  

Need, I don't think so, but remember, computers or government, what is
spent rises as a rate that quickly eats up any surplus and then some.

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Re: [opensuse] Off topic discussions

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M Harris wrote:
> On Monday 14 May 2007 22:20, Pueblo Native wrote:
>   
>>>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> mail list. There can be discussed social events including patent and
>>> copyright topics.
>>>   
>   sounds good... 
>
>   

It is a good idea, my only question was whether or not people would know
what the list is for given the name.
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[opensuse] What's the point with 64 bit

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it seems that almost everybody I've talked to has advised me not to go
with the 64 bit version of OpenSuse because there really is no speed
advantage (if that's not good advice I'd like to hear otherwise).  So
then, if there is no speed advantage, what's the point in even having a
64 bit processor right now?
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Re: [opensuse] Off topic discussions

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Rajko M. wrote:
> For social events that has imporatance for openSUSE comunity and project we 
> have:
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> mail list. There can be discussed social events including patent and 
> copyright 
> topics. 
>   

I'm only saying this as a person who speed reads too much for his own
good when I say that that name isn't exactly intuitive for what's
supposed to be discussed there.  Wouldn't something like, say
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" or "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
be a little better.
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Re: [opensuse] [OT] - Australian extradited to US to stand trial - US penitentiary????????????? NO NO NO

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Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> * M Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05-14-07 16:47]:
>  [...]
>   
>>  Anyway, you could setup a filter for [opensuse][OT] and just send them 
>> to /dev/null and not worry about it. As long as the message is either 
>> directed to the off-topic list, or at least flagged [OT] then I dont see a 
>> problem... but thats just me.
>> 
>
> So, if I don't see the guy raping the girl across the street, it's ok,
> but that's just you ??
>
>   

Okay, would you like to take a moment to examine how retarded that
statement is, or would you like us to do it for you?
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Re: [opensuse] How to add contacts in Kopete?

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Michael Schueller wrote:
> Am Montag, 14. Mai 2007 schrieb Johnny Ernst Nielsen:
>   
>> Mandag 14 maj 2007 12:48 kvad Johnny Ernst Nielsen:
>> 
>>> Kopete 0.12.3 (Under KDE 3.5.5 "release 45.4" openSUSE 10.2)
>>>
>>> [Kopete will not add ICQ contact to new ICQ account]
>>>   
>> I just found this:
>>
>> > 
>> That is my exact problem!
>>
>> I can not find a similar bug report with either KDE or openSUSE.
>>
>> Does anyone know a workaround, or have suggestions for
>> workarounds?
>>
>> Best regards :o)
>>
>> Johnny :o)
>> 
>
> How about trying licq (from Packman) or gaim ?
>
> Micha
>   
Or pidgin, the successor to gaim.
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[opensuse] First we're stealing, now we're dying

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I guess there was a poison pill in those patents we pilfered:

http://www.bangkokpost.com/090507_Database/09May2007_data05.php

Alliterations aside, the only "myth" is in Hilf's own brain.  There may
be some developers out there who wore tye-dye t-shirts, travel in
Winnebago vans, and had a taste for the tree, but there were just as
many buttoned up developers that have never listened to the Grateful
Dead once.

And I love this line from that article: Hilf said that the Linux
phenomenon had nothing to do with Linux, but rather it had a lot to do
with Apache, MySQL and PHP. It was those applications which pulled Linux
up with it, the "Visual Basic of open source."


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Re: [opensuse] The Leopard Shows its Spots

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Philipp Thomas wrote:
> On Sun, 13 May 2007 18:40:17 -0800, John Andersen wrote:
>
>   
>> But I have yet to see Mr Frank Nelson weigh in on this. 
>>
>> And since he claims authority on this subject  I'm sure more denials of 
>> Microsoft's true intent are forthcoming
>> 
>
> If MSFT had that much *enforceable* patents, you think they wouldn't
> have sued yet? This is the old FUD spreading issue that MSFT has been
> so good at in the past. I'd say just ignore such statements. Those
> that really believe those statements have the worst punishment:
> they'll have to keep sticking to Windows :)
>
> Philipp
>   
I'll play the devil's advocate for a minute here.
Any lawyer will tell you that taking a case to court is risky at best. 
Even if your claim is valid, once you add people into the mix, nothing's
ever truly certain.  Giving the best possible explanation for
Microsoft--and please don't laugh too hard--what they may be doing is
trying to see if they can negotiate a settlement that's more certain.
Okay, to end that whole charade, even if Microsoft's patents are valid,
there's a six year statute of limitations, so the question boils down to
when did Microsoft notice the patents were being violated.
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Re: [opensuse] The Leopard Shows its Spots

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I believe the term is bold faced liars, but in any case, if you look at
that article, by the way, MS seems to be trying to go after the Fortune
500 companies.  Never mind the fact that they are some of their biggest
and best customers.
M Harris wrote:
> ehem,  vindicated ... again ...
>
>   Well, the other shoe has dropped. The leopard in Redmond is really 
> desperate... showing its final spots waaay too early. Those M$ yutz actually 
> think they are going to get the cat(s) who have escaped the bag to not only 
> get back into the bag on their own, but pay royalties ta-boot. What maroons.
>
>   M$ is actually saying that the reason "free" software is so stable is 
> because 
> it violates 240+/-  M$ patents   and its time for the FOSS to pay up 
> royalties.  Micro$oft *must die*.  This has just gone too far. 
>
>   Oh, but really, all M$ wants to do with Novell is improve 
> interoperability... 
> really... believe us... we're BALLED FACED LIARS but please believe us... 
> please...?
>
> http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2007/05/28/100033867/index.htm?section=money_latest
>
>   

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Re: [opensuse] Mail Program wanted?

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John Andersen wrote:
> On Sunday 13 May 2007, Pueblo Native wrote:
>   
>> John Andersen wrote:
>> 
>  
>   
>> But I was thinking, why do you even need an _external_ mail program.
>> Depending upon your system, wouldn't using a SMTP control or even
>> library be easier, depending upon what you needed to do exactly.
>> 
>
> As someone who has had to do that, I can tell you it gets fairly
> complex, especially when a varying number of attachments are 
> to be sent.  If you can find a library it would of course be easier
> but there are still a zillion options you may have to implement
> and you might end up writing it closer to the platform than you
> really wanted.
>
>
>   
There is that, but is there a version of mail that works on Windows
applications exactly the way the linux version does?  I'm very likely
ignorant on that level if it does exist.
I can see three possible solutions in this case:

1.  Use a third party mailer that is used on both Windows and Linux and
have the application call that
2.  Build in mail capabilities to the application.
3.  Have each of the desktop clients use a web call to a local, secure
web server that does the mailing.
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Re: [opensuse] Pidgin

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Sean Rima wrote:
> On Sun, 13 May 2007 15:58:44 -0600
> Pueblo Native <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> Does anybody know of a location for Pidgin RPMs.  I tried running the
>> source, but when it installed, it complained about libpurple.
>> 
>
> As root do ldconfig, will sort out the problem you hve
>
> Sean
>   

worked like a charm.  And it's always the most obvious things. ;-)
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[opensuse] Pidgin

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Does anybody know of a location for Pidgin RPMs.  I tried running the
source, but when it installed, it complained about libpurple.
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Re: [opensuse] Mail Program wanted?

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John Andersen wrote:
> On Sunday 13 May 2007, scsijon wrote:
>  
>   
>> The main problem left is that it uses a mail program as part of it's
>> functions (currently Eudora) and I need to provide him with a replacement
>> that has a scriptable interface. He would like whichever is used to both
>> have windows and linux versions so he only has to create one version of
>> source code.
>> 
>
> As I understand it, Kmail has command line capabilities which
> can be controlled thru Dcop.  
>
> However "mail" command in linux has been available since dirt
> and can (and often is) used to automate messages etc.
>
>   
Dirt 2.0 or 3.0? ;-)
But I was thinking, why do you even need an _external_ mail program. 
Depending upon your system, wouldn't using a SMTP control or even
library be easier, depending upon what you needed to do exactly.
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Re: [opensuse] Microsoft claims software like Linux violates its patents - May 28, 2007

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James Knott wrote:
> There was some recent discussion on this list about MS claims of patent
> infringement and someone claimed they hadn't done so recently.
>
> >From the "Suse, M$ and Dell" thread.
>
> "Nope, I don't need recent cites. Until retracted
>   
This might be completely irrelevant, but am I in some sort of time warp
here?
But other than that, I thought this statement was telling:

"At the same time, Smith was having Microsoft's lawyers figure out how
many of its patents were being infringed by free and open-source
software. Gutierrez refuses to identify specific patents or explain how
they're being infringed, lest FOSS advocates start filing challenges to
them."

So you claim numbers, but you aren't showing your cards.  Tell me why I
should be scared again?

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Re: [opensuse] Mail Program wanted?

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scsijon wrote:
> The main problem left is that it uses a mail program as part of it's
> functions
> (currently Eudora) and I need to provide him with a replacement that
> has a
> scriptable interface. He would like whichever is used to both have
> windows
> and linux versions so he only has to create one version of source code.


I'm in the dark a little as to what exactly are you needing to script? 
Are you just needing for it to write an e-mail out and prepare it
through the mail client, or do you actually need to send the e-mail from
the program?  I'd check out Thunderbird in either case, as that is the
major client I know is available in both Windows and Linux versions.
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Re: [opensuse] Maximum PC's article and shot about Linux gaming

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John Andersen wrote:
> What Maximum PC was talking about were multi-player, internet based
> games like Doom, Quake, Hexen, Unreal Tournament, and several
> dozen others (I'm dating myself here) where you are competing with other 
> players all over the world in real time across the internet.
>
> That whole industry has poured tons of money into the construction of the
> interent, the development of faster PCs, and better video cards.  Infact, 
> until Compiz and Vista's Aero theme, the only thing driving Video card
> development was gaming.
>   

Even if we ignore tremulous for a second, that would presume that the
only games worth anything were First Person Shooters and/or MMORPGs.   
And the article doesn't seem to make the distinction you do between
"gaming" and "games" (which is the term that it uses).  I will give you
that more of the games you are talking about are being developed
exclusively for Windows, when you stack the amount of freely available
games out there vs the amount on Windows (those that aren't either
crippleware or shareware), I think you do have more than enough to
entertain you for quite a while.
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[opensuse] Maximum PC's article and shot about Linux gaming

[Pueblo Native]

http://www.maximumpc.com/linux?page=0%2C5

In regards to this:
Games have always been and still are the Achilles’ heel of Linux. There
are two ways to play games on Linux: Play a limited number of native
Linux games or emulate Windows using Transgaming’s Cedega subscription
service, which supports high-profile titles like World of Warcraft and
Battlefield 2 but lacks support for many newer titles

i thought that this was a rather unfair and inaccurate shot about Linux
gaming. Maybe it's just that my definition of "limited" is, well,
limited, but when you get around 100 games (arcade, strategy, board,
card, etc), it may be a finite number but you will burn a lot of hours
going through those games.
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Re: [opensuse] Re: AppArmored FireFox

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Alexey Eremenko wrote:
> Hi  !
>
> I wrote an explanation of what AppArmored FireFox is all about.
>
>
As a side note, if you want to distribute this through an e-mail list,
probably a better format is inlined text.

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Re: [opensuse] [OT] - Australian extradited to US to stand trial

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M Harris wrote:
> On Thursday 03 May 2007 03:58, G T Smith wrote:
>   
>> Please.., please... it may have escaped your notice that many of the
>> list are (thankfully) not citizens of the USA, and are not (yet) subject
>> to what passes for US law...
>>
>> 
>
>   Well, GT...
>
>   ... you might want to read this... 
>
>   http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2007/05/06/1178390140855.html
>
>   This um, Ausie, is probably going to reevaluate whether he is bound by 
> US law 
> or not while he contemplates in a US penitentiary... room and board at um, my 
> expense... (US tax payer).
>
>
>   
>
>   

Yet somehow the American government will not let US soldiers be tried
for international war crimes.  Boggles the mind.


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Re: [opensuse] Fwd: broadcom (??) wireless on dell latitude D810

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Danesh Daroui wrote:
> Yeah, I had same problem. Install "ndiswrapper" and then copy all
> ".inf" files (and maybe ".sys" files also) from windows driver. Follow
> "ndiswrapper" to install driver from Windows drivers and your wireless
> neteork will then work like a charm!
>
> D.
>


If you go this route, I'd be sure that ndiswrapper gets loaded upon
boot. (Yast2->System->/etc/sysconfig
editor->System->Kernel->MODULES_LOADED_ON_BOOT has "ndiswrapper")
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Re: [opensuse] Google hosts as Ira Hyman introduces PC LinuxOS

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James Knott wrote:
> Pueblo Native wrote:
>   
>> Fred A. Miller wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> http://newsblaze.com/story/20070502150502jnyc.nb/newsblaze/TOPSTORY/Top-Story.html
>>>
>>> "Are you an owner of an old laptop or a slow computer? Maybe you just
>>> don't have the money to buy a new one at this point of time? Don't
>>> worry. Ira Hyman gave his presentation on a seven year old 500 MHz
>>> laptop using PCLinuxOS. He surfs on the Internet and does his daily work
>>> without any problems. Like many other people I took away a free
>>> PCLinuxOS CD. Having installed it after the meeting I've been using the
>>> distro for a month now. I have never had to restart my computer and all
>>> its applications run perfectly."
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
>> Not that I don't mind a little  extra publicity from time to time, but
>> in an age of $300 computers at Wal Mart, do you really think people are
>> going to use Linux just to bump up an old computer?
>>
>>   
>> 
> For many people even $300 is too much.  Also, even though I have a
> decent main computer (AMD 64 bit & 1 GB), I'll occasionally buy a cheap
> computer for experimentation or firewall.  I just drop by a used
> computer store and spend about $100 or so, for a computer that's quite
> adequate for Linux.  If you've got a young family and paying a mortgage,
> that $300 may be hard to find.  There are also many low income families
> that can't afford a new computer either.  Then there's the ecology
> issue.  Why trash a perfectly good computer, just because Sir Billy
> wants to sell Vista, when it can run Linux well?
>
>
>
> Here's another article.
>
> http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2007/05/ubuntu_review.html
>
>   

Took a look at that one.  I don't think GNOME's going to be happy with
this remark:

"No longer. Ubuntu uses GNOME, a graphic interface that looks so much
like Windows that Bill Gates should be, and probably is, angry. For once
someone has copied Microsoft instead of the other way around."

And I thought KDE was the "Windows clone."

But back on topic and about the $300 computers.  I agree with you that
it may be a formidable sum for poorer families and for schools and
charities.  But let's assume that a poor family buys an old computer and
fires it up with Linux.  Okay, but if you have a kid that is in school
all day with predominantly Wintel computers, he's may have a time of it
if the school uses software that only runs on Windows (for the sake of
argument, we're going on the assumption that Wine can't run it).   Also,
the inexpensive nature of Linux compared to Windows only compares Linux
to "legitimate' versions of Windows, not to the pirated software that is
just as free (if technically illegal).
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Re: [opensuse] Google hosts as Ira Hyman introduces PC LinuxOS

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Fred A. Miller wrote:
> http://newsblaze.com/story/20070502150502jnyc.nb/newsblaze/TOPSTORY/Top-Story.html
>
> "Are you an owner of an old laptop or a slow computer? Maybe you just
> don't have the money to buy a new one at this point of time? Don't
> worry. Ira Hyman gave his presentation on a seven year old 500 MHz
> laptop using PCLinuxOS. He surfs on the Internet and does his daily work
> without any problems. Like many other people I took away a free
> PCLinuxOS CD. Having installed it after the meeting I've been using the
> distro for a month now. I have never had to restart my computer and all
> its applications run perfectly."
>
>   

Not that I don't mind a little  extra publicity from time to time, but
in an age of $300 computers at Wal Mart, do you really think people are
going to use Linux just to bump up an old computer?

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Re: [opensuse] The list

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Registration Account wrote:
> What I find disturbing are endless threads that clog up the amount of an
> already high volume messages such as these.
> Their purpose is neither constructive nor helpful to anyone and
> re-enforces  others I have spoken to calling this list
> a "sewing circle "
> The language used hereunder is totally inappropriate and offensive
> ,suitable for a Pub situation. We discuss Linux functionality and none
> of us need to see this type of war of words - and if something rubs you
> the wrong way you just ignore it.
> Ignoring a meaningless email is far more powerful that using this list
> to bully people or inflate your own status.
> P

It is, which is exactly what I did on this one.  And I don't believe
that I could "inflate" my own status, even though I have been told on
occasion that I'm full of hot air. ;-)
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Re: [opensuse] The list

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Stevens wrote:
> When I said that all responders to my OT thread (you know which one)
> that posted to this list instead of me personally would be considered
> just plain stupid, I had no idea how many on this list who consider 
> themselves "bright" were, in fact, just plain stupid.
>
> I have compiled a list of the humor-impaired dumbasses who can't 
> seem to let it die. You know who you are. You need to take your panties 
> off, straighten out the wad, put them back on and go about the business of 
> opensuse and stop your incessant whining. 
>
> Fred
>   

Anybody else here think it's real annoying when you have certain idiots
too enamored with the smell of their own farts who actually think that
who is or is not on their s-list actually amounts to a hill of beans.  
That is just so annoying.

Back to things that actually matter.

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Re: [opensuse] Thunderbird [OT]

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Doug McGarrett wrote:
> Can anybody tell me how to get Thunderbird to create and use
> an Outbox, that will preserve messages you send?  This is on
> an XP machine which is giving me fits in all kinds of ways.
> TIA--doug

I think it's called the Sent folder, unless XP Thunderbird is doing
something really different from the Linux version.

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Re: [opensuse] Evolution for Gmail

[Pueblo Native]

Bikram Chatterjee wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Can any body tell me how to get the evolution mail working for gmail
> POP account? I did the configuration of Evolution mail as instructed
> in gmail settings yet neither of send or receive is working. My system
> is SuSE 10.1 x86_64.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> -Bikram
After you configure GMail to do pop, here are the settings

POP: pop.gmail.com
Port 991
SSL

SMTP smtp.gmail.com
port: 587
TLS
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[opensuse] OT: Going for the LPIC

[Pueblo Native]

I'm only posting this here because I would assume there are people on
this list who are in IT.  I'm going for the LPIC certifications and I am
wondering about their relative value in the community.  Are these good
certs or pretty much only good as wallpaper?
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Re: [opensuse] Why is package libpcap 0.94 contains library 0.93 !?!

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Magnus Boman wrote:
> Alexey,
>
> On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 02:15 +0100, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
>   
>> I have a one little question: WHAT THE HELL !?!?
>> 
>
> I'm not sure I understand your question. Do you mean "Where is hell" or
> perhaps "What is hell"?
> The best I can do for you with regards to your question is to point you
> to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell
>
> HTH,
> Magnus
>
>   
And with a off-topic, if humorous post, here's another deep question
about the netherworld. http://www.pinetree.net/humor/thermodynamics.html
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Re: [opensuse] still having problems

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Carlos Robinson wrote:
> On 4/30/07, Carl Spitzer  wrote:
>
>> I can not subscribe even under a new address.  Last time I posted to the
>> list but only received off list replies.  So again I try to subscribe
>> via two different addresses.  This is now the fourth time.  What is
>> wrong with the list host.
>
> Nothing, the problem is on your side.
>
> Get a gmail account and subscribe from the webmail. Forget your
> ISP/Setup.
> I'm sending you and invite.
>
Hopefully this is your juno address and you are still using it, but
you're messages are getting through, it's just getting the messages that
you are not able to do.  Get a GMail account or a yahoo account or
something and try that.
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Re: [opensuse] how to enable figer print reader?

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Peter Van Lone wrote:
> My HP nw8440 laptop has a fingerprint reader. My compatriots who also
> have this device (and are running vista) have easily been able to
> configure this such that when prompted to login, they simply swipe
> their finger.
>
> How to go about this, with SLED 10 or OpenSuse 10.1?
>
> Peter

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_enable_the_fingerprint_reader

Hope this helps.

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Re: [opensuse] Ooffice startup error

[Pueblo Native]

Are you downloading it, or installing it as a RPM?  The latter should
eliminate any of those problems.
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Re: [opensuse] Best way to install Codecs on OpenSuse

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Jerry Feldman wrote:
> Lately my wife has been using my OpenSuSE 10.2 laptop. Now she wants to
> watch DVDs on it. I did this in my old laptop a few years ago. 
> I can install a new version of the xine library from
> http://www.xinehq.de/. I'm just looking for some general comments from
> those of you who have successfully installed it. I'd most likely use
> Kaffeine to view the DVDs. 
> (I know this has been discussed before).
>
>   

>From my experience, the best place to get those codecs is off the
packman repository.

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Re: [opensuse] Trying to recover a hard drive

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Fergus Wilde wrote:
> On Monday 30 April 2007 02:54, Pueblo Native wrote:
>   
>> Here's a problem one of my friends sent me, his words.
>>
>> i had a fedora 2 box crap out so i took the HD out and put it in a USB
>> enclosure to plug into another fedora 2 box.
>>
>> i mounted the drive but the only options i see when i LS it is:
>> config-2.4.22-1.2115.nptl
>> grub
>> initrd-2.4.22-1.2115.nptl
>> kernal.h
>> lost+found
>> System.map-2.4.22-1.2115.nptl
>> vmlinux-2.4.22-1.2115.nptl
>> vmlinuz-2.4.22-1.2115.nptl
>> 
>
> I think he has in fact mounted only one partition on the drive, probably 
> whichever one he mounted as /boot. If the USB mounted damaged disk were to 
> be /dev/sd1, for example, he should have a go at mount and 
> listing /dev/sd1b, /dev/sd1c, etc., until he finds the one with his data or 
> other vital matter on it. If it were me, I'd then copy the data safely off, 
> check to make good and sure that I'd *really* got all the vital data off, and 
> then start again with a fresh install on that 'crapped out' disk. That's if I 
> had reason to believe the crapping out to be software rather than hardware 
> related. If the disk is knackered then he would be throwing good time after 
> bad by doing anything other than discarding it.
> HTH
> Fergus
>
>   

Thanks for the advice.  Usually the USB drives I see are FAT, so I
didn't even think of it as having more than one partition.

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[opensuse] Trying to recover a hard drive

[Pueblo Native]

Here's a problem one of my friends sent me, his words.

i had a fedora 2 box crap out so i took the HD out and put it in a USB
enclosure to plug into another fedora 2 box.

i mounted the drive but the only options i see when i LS it is:
config-2.4.22-1.2115.nptl
grub
initrd-2.4.22-1.2115.nptl
kernal.h
lost+found
System.map-2.4.22-1.2115.nptl
vmlinux-2.4.22-1.2115.nptl
vmlinuz-2.4.22-1.2115.nptl


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Re: [opensuse] Need help installing thunderbird 2.0 downloaded from Mozilla from native .tar.gz file

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Registration Account wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> This is a seemingly simple question for which I have no answer. I
> downloaded thunderbird 2.0 from Mozilla in its native .tar.gz file format.
> There is an amazingly lack of install instructions in Mozilla as there
> is the assumption that your distro does all the normal install functions.
> I have unpacked the file and seen several .bin files that you would
> think would install - It doesn't. There are also a few .sh files that
> you would think would install - they don't. Yes I have checked the files
> permissions.
> Can anyone help me with a (simple) install of thunderbird 2.0 from the
> native .tar.gz file in a open suse 10.2 environment.
> Many thanks
> Scott
>
>   
If you are going with the tarball, there's no need for an "installation"
program.  Once unpacked, Thunderbird works directly out of the directory
that you have it in. But like several in here have said, you can use the
mozilla.org rpm site and get a custom, OpenSuse 10.2 rpm.
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Re: [opensuse] IBM Select Copywrite Principles

[Pueblo Native]

Jerry Feldman wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 19:27:52 -0500
> SOTL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> Every now and then something is posted that is a must read for ALL computer 
>> programmers.
>>
>> In the SCO vs IBM case IBM IBM has posted such a document as Amendment A.
>>
>> http://www.groklaw.net/pdf/IBM-1034ExA.pdf
>>
>> http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070425224227125
>> 
> I read Groklaw every day, partially because the outcome could have a
> huge affect on both Linux and the entire OpenSource community. At the
> moment, I think last Friday's 3 declarations by Novell (Tor Braham who
> was the outside attorney who drafted the Novell-Santa Cruz APA, Allison
> Amadia, outside attorney who drafted Amendment 2, and David Bradford,
> Novell Senior Vice-president, General Counsel and Corporate Secretary).
> The issue that is discussed is whether Novell sold the Unix and
> Unixware copyrights and patents to Santa Cruz. All 3 state, with
> associated documents, that Novell did not and never intended to sell the
> copyrights and patents to Santa Cruz. 
> But, not only as a computer programmer as well as a person that runs a
> number of listservs, I am well aware of copyright issues. One time, at
> Digital, we were instructed to remove IBM copyrights from header files
> and code (OSF). This was legal because IBM had transferred the rights
> to OSF members.
>
>   
Hold on, are you saying SCO still has a case?  I thought the judge
pretty much blasted it completely out of the water.
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Re: [opensuse] vote for the 10.3's slogan (now were getting back On Topic)

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Kai Ponte wrote:
> openSUSE - It sux less than the competition
>
> *or*
>
> openSUSE - genuine Windows replacement part
>
>
>   
Both might be a little too long, but I can see the attraction.
For all of our dislike of M$ (or the evil empire), even the most
hardened critic has to admit they are a-plus in terms of advertising and
marketing.  You want something quick and snappy, something that rolls
off the tongue.  "Where do you want to go today?"  Even when I rolled up
to http://www.microsoft.com/, what I saw was simple and memorable ("Your
potential. Our Passion").  Now we can argue till the cows go home about
the product itself, but you can't say that their slogans are bad marketing.

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Re: [opensuse] Apache access log errors - attack?

[Pueblo Native]

Cristian Rodriguez R. wrote:
> James D. Parra escribió:
>
>   
>> It doesn't appear that the system was compromised. 
>> 
>
> It might not apeear..that0's the problem :P
>
> How can I protect the
>   
>> system from such an attack?
>> 
>
>
> security is a complex topic, there is no magic pill.
>
> You can be protected in several ways.
>
> 1. first and more importantly ,keep the Web applications you use up to date.
> 2. remember to remove code that you dont currenlty use.
>
> 3. install php5-suhosin available from the server:php repo. this
> extension will efectivalle stop several attacks against poorly written
> PHP apps.
>
> 4. do not allow apache access to outside your network.
>
> 5. Upgrade you distribution or install newer PHP versions.
>
>
>   
6.  Unplug the machine from all networks, put it in a safe, and seal all
the entrances. ;-)
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Re: [opensuse] vote for the 10.3's slogan [going OT]

[Pueblo Native]

M Harris wrote:
>   Yup.  It was an attachment... and it was "kind of" embedded... the 
> properties 
> were changed on the attachment to "suggest automatic display".  Its nice for 
> small logos or hand-sigs...  but probably not for larger pics...  
>   

Still, it's good to get ideas for slogans.  I know this isn't OpenSuse,
but I got this idea the other minute:
http://www.sevensealscomputing.com/img/cavemanbanner.png

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Re: [opensuse] ndiswrapper loading on boot

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Go into Yast -->System --> kernel --> modules loaded at boot
> and add ndiswrapper
>
>   
I did it, although in a different path (System->/etc/sysconfig
Editor->System->Kernel->MODULES_LOADED_ON_BOOT)
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