Re: [opensuse-factory] Upgrade from openSUSE 10.3 (i586) Beta2 to 10.3 possible?
On 10/23/07, Wolfgang Woehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Can I upgrade my beta2 via zypper or yast to 10.3? Wolfgang PS: I'm not really aware of whether this is the right list but I'm actually not sitting in the factory box so ignore me if this question is way out of line, thank you. I believe this is possible. Add 10.3 final to your Yast repository, and try to use System Update -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] applydeltaiso RC1 delta to GM 10.3 - indata read 8192 bytes failed
I have exactly the same problem: opensuse103b3:/F/OSes # applydeltaiso openSUSE-10.3-RC1-DVD-i386.iso /mnt/sda5/OSes/openSUSE-10.3-RC1_GM-DVD-i386.delta.iso openSUSE-10.3-DVD-i386.iso reading 363151280 bytes from old iso...done indata read 8192 bytes failed opensuse103b3:/F/OSes # md5sum openSUSE-10.3-RC1-DVD-i386.iso 72da1e1dedc195db7c105cc4de393f39 openSUSE-10.3-RC1-DVD-i386.iso What to do ? (RC1 DVD has correct MD5). But now the access is denied to all the mirrors. (for GM) -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] [status report] openSUSE distribution, week 38
On 9/20/07, Stephan Kulow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! You may have noticed I'm pretty late, which is already a status update: I'm heavily busy :) * We mastered RC1 late tuesday with just one ship blocker left * After internal testing we're up again to 7 blockers (+ 54 critical) It's great to hear about RC1, but if we have _that_ big number of important bugs, maybe we should make another RC, -- RC2 before Final ? -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.3 BETA3 refuses to run on VirtualBox
hi all ! openSUSE 10.3 BETA3 refuses to run on VirtualBox 1.5.0. BETA2 worked. Host: openSUSE 10.2, Athlon XP. When booting kernel, it says: PANIC: CPU too old for this kernel.. Plus for some strange reason openSUSE 10.3 BETA3 chooses bigsmp instead of default kernel. See: http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=1625 -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] About dropped packages -- xmms
I would like to see XMMS included with openSUSE. -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] BulletProofX - a critical feature request for openSUSE
and that exists in SUSE since many many years. type sax.sh -a in the command line and get your messed up configuration fixed. You didn't get the point. It is intended for Windows users, who don't want to type at all. It should just work, and no SUSE doesn't have it. I have replaced my nVidia card with internal VIA KM400 video chip, and know what ? openSUSE's X crashed ! -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Default package request
On 8/30/07, Alex Lau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear all
Is that possible to install pin by default?
So we can create the next great thing call pin-install ... meaning base
on the pin info after locating the package which is missing and trigger
the install ?
Thanks
Alex
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[opensuse-factory] Fwd: [opensuse] Why all the icons were uglified in 10.3 Alpha 6 ?
-- Forwarded message -- From: Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Jul 25, 2007 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [opensuse] Why all the icons were uglified in 10.3 Alpha 6 ? To: Open SuSE Listserv [EMAIL PROTECTED] In SUSE 10.2, all the Yast icons were beautyful, now they all became ugly. Why is that? That was discussed on the factory list. Quoting Andreas: YaST has the Tango icons - this is a feature. If you want the old icons, please use the opensuse-Crystal yast theme, and Tango icons in general fit much better to KDE4 than the crystal ones - and we would like to maintain only one icon set, While I fully understand (and support) the need to reduce maintenance overhead well... my very low opinions of Gnome and the Tango icon set are better left unsaid... especially that annoying and broken file picker thing that GTK based apps use (eg Firefox). Sigh C. -- Please make it at least selectable, as those ugly icons have good chances for me to stop using SUSE at all. They are so ugly... -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-announce] Announcing openSUSE10.3 Alpha6
On 7/20/07, Stephan Kulow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Freitag 20 Juli 2007 schrieb Bernhard Walle: * Stephan Kulow [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-07-20 10:58]: Am Donnerstag 19 Juli 2007 schrieb David Bolt: [1] It's still going to be useful to add extra packages/patterns and remove unwanted (non-OSS?) packages/patterns, as well as adding extra, third party, repositories. Actually this is very likely to be the goal of further releases: make the CD the installation medium of first choice and provide the DVD as collection of repositories and extra patterns. So you have to download and burn *two* media every time you want a real system which has more than a few KDE OR GNOME applications? Yes. The assumption I have is that most people installing have no problem in being online during installation. And those[1] that would like to avoid it, burn the DVD. Note, that I'm sharing with you my blue prints. There are no concrete plans. Greetings, Stephan [1] People buying the box will have the DVD and people being fine with a default install don't have the problem anyway. I do have a strong protest. I'm offliner, and therefore for SUSE to fulfill my needs, *all* the packages *must* be available from offline media, such as DVDs. I have also opened a feature-request to add a second DVD to represent full OS. (not just part of it, as it currently happens with 1 DVD) https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=263606 Novell people, and some of the community disagreed with my stance, while others supported this idea. Currently openSUSE fulfilsl my needs at only 50% (only half of the packages available on the standard DVD), and if the downloadbale media will become CD, then SUSE will fulfill my needs at only 10% - which is terrible. As openSUSE is the community distro, I ask openSUSE developers to fulfill needs of both the online community (1CD net-install) and the offliner community (people who like to install from DVDs, even if we have broadband) - and our needs are Full Distro on several DVDs. Debian fulfills both requirements fully - openSUSE tries to. Please don't start a flame-war, but rather look around and see how can we, as openSUSE community, to address the needs of our offline Susers ? -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] How can we integrate OpenVZ into openSUSE ?
A week later, it starts all over, with a different topic. Come on. It was the opensuse list, now here... Whats next, alexey? Yes, I request additions of packages, but it is due to lack of some features in openSUSE. Hope someday I will learn to build them myself, but I'm not close to doing that... The next thing huh... will be another missing feature I guess :) On my side, I do a job of documenting those features, as you may find here: http://forgeftp.novell.com/lfl/.html/ Yes, I have big interest of improving virtualization at different levels. I understand virtualization well. Xen is just one of the options, and in my opinion not the best one. More diversity for different needs would be good. About OpenVZ kernel: This kernel fails to load vzmon, the primary OpenVZ service: opensuse102:/home/alexey # modprobe vzmon FATAL: Error inserting vzmon (/lib/modules/2.6.16.43-027test002-24.1-ovz/kernel/kernel/vzmon.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) opensuse102:/home/alexey # dmesg | grep vzmon vzmon: Unknown symbol ve_snmp_proc_init vzmon: Unknown symbol addrconf_sysctl_free vzmon: Unknown symbol ve_ndisc_init vzmon: Unknown symbol addrconf_ifdown vzmon: Unknown symbol fini_ve_route6 vzmon: Unknown symbol addrconf_sysctl_init vzmon: Unknown symbol ve_snmp_proc_fini vzmon: Unknown symbol ve_ndisc_fini vzmon: Unknown symbol init_ve_route6 vzmon: Unknown symbol addrconf_sysctl_fini vzmon: Unknown symbol ve_snmp_proc_init vzmon: Unknown symbol addrconf_sysctl_free vzmon: Unknown symbol ve_ndisc_init vzmon: Unknown symbol addrconf_ifdown vzmon: Unknown symbol fini_ve_route6 vzmon: Unknown symbol addrconf_sysctl_init vzmon: Unknown symbol ve_snmp_proc_fini vzmon: Unknown symbol ve_ndisc_fini vzmon: Unknown symbol init_ve_route6 vzmon: Unknown symbol addrconf_sysctl_fini vzmon: Unknown symbol ve_snmp_proc_init vzmon: Unknown symbol addrconf_sysctl_free vzmon: Unknown symbol ve_ndisc_init vzmon: Unknown symbol addrconf_ifdown vzmon: Unknown symbol fini_ve_route6 vzmon: Unknown symbol addrconf_sysctl_init vzmon: Unknown symbol ve_snmp_proc_fini vzmon: Unknown symbol ve_ndisc_fini vzmon: Unknown symbol init_ve_route6 vzmon: Unknown symbol addrconf_sysctl_fini About other OpenVZ kernels: All official kernels are RedHat-based, and don't work on SUSE, compiling with official patches fails as well, so basically the only way I got a _working_ OVZ solution, is by copying the binary kernel, along with it's modules from OVZ LiveCD. -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] How can we integrate OpenVZ into openSUSE ?
whom to ask to fix the broken kernel? -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Re: How can we integrate OpenVZ into openSUSE ?
I believe SUSE should not be limited by Xen-only approach. -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] New Bugzilla [Was: Bugzilla also affected? [was: torrent]]
On 6/16/07, Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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The Saturday 2007-06-16 at 17:20 +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote:
This is the planned bugzilla outage today.
Very nice new look, new colours, with a... whatever insect (¿Mantis
religiosa?) :-)
But I have lost the My reports link. There is a Reports, that asks
for a lot of data I don't understand nor want, there is a My Votes.
Another Reports in blue background instead of grey (testopia)...
Plus, the website is now unstable and loops, when I call this link:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/tr_query.cgi?report=1;
I still undecided if I like the new look-n-feel... but this change is
MAJOR one !
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[opensuse-factory] Pushing AppArmor into the mainline kernel
hi all ! I would like to ask if there is an effort to push AppArmor into the mainline kernel ? I know SELinux is already there, so I don't know if it's possible to push AppArmor too... -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug Day/s Lets Get it going.
Well, yes. Bug day(s) is very important for our project. -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Making Basic Utilities work under normal user
Adding /sbin/ to user's $PATH doesn't lower your security. (because you're still bound by Linux-user security privileges) But it will make our systems easier to use. So I vote for making it the default. -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Making Basic Utilities work under normal user
On 5/31/07, Ricardo Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I think this only makes sense if we go through the sudo route, like Ubuntu. Otherwise, just symlink from /bin. Ohh yes, symlinking from /sbin to /bin can also solve those problems, of inaccessible utilities. -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Public development of AppArmored FireFox
On 5/11/07, Alexey Eremenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have made an overview regarding my plans about AppArmored FireFox. link: http://download.yousendit.com/98BAB4F42629D737 That overview is now also uploaded to the bug report. But I still can't get FireFox-normal to have different PID than FireFox-apparmored. Is there *any* way to do that ? (except VM) Please ! I need help ! don't let this project die. -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Public development of AppArmored FireFox
Hi Wolfgang ! I have setup a project page on the openSUSE wiki, that explains everything, including your questions and answers. AppArmored FireFox - official project page: http://en.opensuse.org/AppArmored_FireFox Feel free to discuss there... -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: swapfile during installation
On 5/24/07, Steffen Winterfeldt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The latest linuxrc (version 2.1.25) can create swap partitions and swap files now. If you're going for swap files, you have to watch out not to reformat the partition later yourself. What is the linuxrc ? -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: swapfile during installation
The problem is known. See: Instlux - setup openSUSE Linux from Windows: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=276450 -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Using Instlux: issues setting up SUSE from Windows
I would like to go even further and feature-request openSUSE setup on NTFS entirely ! ! ! Is it possible to achieve ? -NTFS capabilities: I don't know for sure, but it looks like NTFS-3g has enough POSIX compatibility to make it possible to install openSUSE on ntfs-3g partition entirely. That is - mount / partition on NTFS, as well as swap-on-NTFS. -How to install ? I have theoretical alternative: use RPM for Cygwin to just install openSUSE distro on local Windows folder, without rebooting and going through Yast-setup. Some easy setup could be built very quickly for Windows (using InnoSetup) Then we will need just to reboot into openSUSE to start the new system ! -What this will require from openSUSE? probably integrating ntfs-3g into the ditrso, plus building initrd with ntfs-3g, so that the kernel can mount the / partition. What do you think about it? Please help me push ntfs-3g into openSUSE ! https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=247750 -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Using Instlux: issues setting up SUSE from Windows
This page indicates that it is indeed possible to run Linux OS on NTFS partition: http://www.ntfs-3g.org/support.html#rootfs Having Linux on NTFS can bring us to serious revolution across Windows users ! A real revolution in how Windows users *think* about openSUSE ! But we have to make it simple for the Windows crowd to install openSUSE on the same NTFS partition as Windows. (such as C:\) This means either enhance our current Basic Setup Routine and Yast-setup to handle those new requirements easily, or we need to write completely new (Windows-based) setup for openSUSE distro. Plus, We can go both directions at once. :) -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] How can we support better Virtualization in openSUSE ?
hi all ! I wrote an article about different types of Virtualization here: http://www.violtan.com/ae/virtualization.html This article describes 4 stages of Virtualization: Emulation, Full Virtualization, Para-Virtualization and OS-level Virtualization. I believe that openSUSE must excel at all types of Virtualization. openSUSE did some progress in terms of Virtualization: namely we consider integrating VirtualBox into openSUSE. Until now openSUSE is too focused on Xen. Xen-centric approach is bad. We need a wide array of technologies in openSUSE. Qemu and DOSbox emulators are fortunately already included. openSUSE 10.3 kernel also support USB-FS (allows for using USB in guest VMs) , KVM (Qemu-accelerator) and VMI (kernel paravirtualization) each of these technologies improve Virtualization further. One thing we still lack is OS-level Virtualization: such as OpenVZ - this technology allows for partial virtualization at speeds unreachable for Xen. The most serious problem with bringing OpenVZ to openSUSE is: their project is too RedHat-centric. This is a serious issue, because all of their documentation, packages, utilities, templates and even source-code patches are RedHat-centric, and none of their software work on SUSE. I have failed to bring this technology to openSUSE. I hope there are SUSE developers around who can break their RedHat monopoly and bring this excellent technology to SUSE. Again: I vote for wide array of Virtualization solutions in openSUSE (instead of being Xen-centric). I have several more interesting ideas considering Virtualization, such as building a bridge between UnionFS and OpenVZ. Who are the people responsible for virtualization efforts in openSUSE ? -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-packaging] Should we evaluate Zimbra ? - a next-gen Mail Server
I think besides Zimbra and Kolab there is: Courier that is both email-server/email-client/HTTP server for emails. http://www.courier-mta.org/intro.html I see no screenshots of it. -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-packaging] Should we evaluate Zimbra ? - a next-gen Mail Server
Does Kolab allows any web browser to access the email server , lik Zimbra or GMail ? From screenshots I see that only Kontact client works with Kolab. -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Public development of AppArmored FireFox
A new upcoming product has received a new artwork: https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=137790 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=255541 modified by me :) -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] ntfs-3g.
It is very important to be this NTFS-3G driver into openSUSE *and* have Yast GUI to control the new driver. Also the community think that the new driver must be used by default but in RO mode. That's all written in the bug report. -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Public development of AppArmored FireFox
hi all ! Since I'm newbie in AppArmor, I need community help in building a good AppArmored FireFox profile. The reason: openSUSE Community needs response to the Vistas IE7-protected mode as written here: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=255541 The best answer is AppArmored FireFox, which I try to build. Current Status: 1. Basically the idea is to have 2 versions of FireFox installed by default: One is normal FireFox and other is highly-secure FireFox. 2. We have a potential icon for the thing (but need approvement from Mozilla) 3. Today I have succeded in building Alpha-version of profile. The profile: currently it works, *but*: a. Only in normal user mode (not root mode) b. Can only save in /home/*/downloads and other log files. c. supports some extensions and plugins (KPDF) d. Can read only the necessary files to load itself. The problems: 1. My current profile (Alpha1) contains a LOT of bugs 2. I would like to see support for more plugins and extensions (those needs to be added to the profile) 3. Standard firefox starts from shell script, but as I understand AppArmor does not supports shellscripts, only executables. I need more info on that topic. To play with my profile you need: 1. download my Alpha1 profile and put to /etc/apparmor.d/ link: https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=136242 2. open konsole with 2 tabs: 1 oin root mode and other with normal user. The tab with root account should play with apparmor service: rcapparmor start rcapparmor stop rcapparmor restart and the tab with normal user account should launch firefox via command line: /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin 3. When you run firefox AND have apparmor service running, you should NOT be able view or save in your home directory. To save in Home directory, do rcapparmor stop and continue browsing in normal mode. I call for community help. I need help improving the profile *and* contacting Mozilla to allow us to use the nice AppArmored-FireFox icon here: https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=125341 -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Re: Public development of AppArmored FireFox
OK, now I have built AppArmored FireFox profile - Alpha2 This version in addition to Alpha1 features, received some testing and Java plugin support. That means that now Java is available from both Normal and AppArmored FireFox. With some community help, we can get even more plugins to work. links: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=255541 https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=136249action=view -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] More bugs?
Hmmm That's strange considring the fact that I installed openSUSE 10.3 Alpha3 on both real hardware and VM without major issues, the only small issue being vim-normal package refused to install, but vim worked anyway. Again, it WORKS-FOR-ME -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Re: Public development of AppArmored FireFox
ICONS: Since I want to push this icon as official: https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=125341 I believe we should re-contact Mozilla. Now, I know there is a Novell guy in existence who contacted Mozilla to ask them use branding for Normal FireFox. Now I would like to find that Novell guy and ask him to re-contact Mozilla about the AppArmored FireFox icon license. I really do not wish another Bon Echo or IceWeasel here. -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] YaST meta-package module
I think it will be very useful. I hope seeing it on next release. Yes, that would be very good indeed. It reminds me konvinientSUSE, and I hope it will be integrated well with Yast. -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-usability] Yast UI Future ideas
On 4/16/07, Ricardo Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, Opened a wiki page for people to drop some thoughts and ideas with regard to Yast interface. Stop by, and drop yours. :) http://en.opensuse.org/Yast_UI_Future You may notice reply-to is set to the yast-devel mailing list. Please, reply there. Cheers, Ricardo Very nice indeed ! Especially the graphical partitioner will help ! I understand, that this is copy-catting Mandriva, but this change is a good one. To the partitioner, I should add, that logical partitions must be inside primary partitions. -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Java packages changes for 10.3
Let's make it clear to the users: Is Sun Java fully Open-Sourced now ? (as I heard from someone on the net) or it's just partial OSS ? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Aqsis package for inclusion within openSUSE 10.3 (factory) repo
nice ! I'm not expert in 3D rendering, but how Aqsis compares to Blender 3D, another Open-Source 3D modeling tool? Does it even compete, or it is targeted at a different problem? -Alexey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] OpenSUSE, bugs and some considerations
On 3/3/07, Ted Bullock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Other bugs report the same problem, also with no conclusion https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=130098 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=159186 Maybe a post release bug cleanup activity could help here and in similar instances? Perhaps 2-3 months after a release the developers and community could be organized into a one day bug review of the outstanding bugs for the release and evaluate/assign them properly. For instance I currently see the following: 251 Open bugs for 10.0 683 Open bugs for 10.1 1224 Open bugs for 10.2 Well, I really don't understand this counter. For me, SUSE 10.2 is much more stable than 10.0 and 10.1 together, and less buggy overall. Single reason: The KDE is much more stable. I don't use the newer technologies, like Compiz/Beagle/ZEN/Rug/... for my serious work. So I propably don't notice any problems with them... Wouldn't it be useful to review all those open bugs from the more recent releases and see if they should be updated to reflect the state of either the current release (10.2) or the factory (10.3), or possibly close them if they represent problems that are negligible in recent releases? Surely the combined effort between the developers and community over the course of a day or two could clean out the bug lists and identify tasks that should genuinely be targeted for fixes. Personally I would be willing to schedule a day or two toward such an activity that I think would improve the quality of defect management in opensuse. I think that the Mozilla lightning/calendar project has the right idea with scheduled community/developer test days. http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/calendar/2007/03/branch_sunbird_and_google_cale.html Thoughts? Yes, I agree that Mozilla-style community bug-hunting days is a good idea :) !! -Alexey Eremenko - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] improve boot time
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[opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-announce] openSUSE 10.3 Alpha1 released
Very nice ! But one *important* thing seems to be lacking from this announcement. What about Lessons for Lizards ? Was it included ? -Alexey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Making the basesystem smaller
I am happy with the base system we have now (10.2), and do *not* want any major changes. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] URL warning (Was: OpenSUSE Home Server ?)
because this is french (?), I cannot help you much. Except to say that openSUSE works excellently as Home Server. Running SUSE Linux 10.0 w/ apache2. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] GM release
My router crashes after seeding 4 or 6 hours. And it runs an embedded linux with a 2.4 kernel. So I can't seed much. Why do you think it is running Linux ? Have you tested it ? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3
Thanks to all respones, especially to: Jiri Srain and Klaus Kaempf. I will look at this Yast tutorial later. Haven't saw it before. Also I ask people who go offtopic - such as discussions about *PartitionMagic* to start that discussion on a different mailing-list. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3
I have plans (and features) to enhance the firewall module in 10.3 but it would be nice to hear what exactly users need. Could you, please, give me more information? You can also send me a patch then :) ;) Yes - I would like to have ability to do *traffic limiting* - IP tables already supports that and I think it could be done at the GUI level (in Yast). the only problem is that iptables limits IP packets (they are variable size), and I would like to be able to limit with bytes-per-second criteria. Is that doable? I would like to be able to configure lmits for both upload download rates. Also I think that Firewall module is the correct place to do that. This is needed when working in LAN environment, with single shared Internet connection, so that you won't steal all the Internet bandwidth from your parents/friends/colleagues. (At Home/LAN party/Work). Unfortunately, not all Routers can do that. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Why openSUSE 10.2 RC1 DVD-iso size is much smaller than BETA2 size ?
On 11/27/06, Andreas Hanke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexey Eremenko schrieb: I have downloaded openSUSE 10.2 RC1 DVD ISO and it takes just 3.6 Gigabytes vs. 4.2 Gigabytes for BETA2 DVD ISO ! Why is this ? http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2006-11/msg00739.html (whole thread) The DVD being smaller than 4 GB is a feature. Ahh and a nice one. I really prefer to store all my data (including ISOs) on FAT32 partitions to have access from Windows too. So the half-gig went to Lang-CD. OK I agree with that even through I use Russian myself as a secondary language. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3
Hi all ! As 10.2 release nears I think into future - 10.3 features - and I would like to request massive updates in Yast - that is - new modules that I would like to see: 1. Swap Manager (Yast GUI to manage swap files partitions) 2. FTP Server (Yast GUI to manage vsFTPd) 3. SSH Server (Yast GUI to manage openssh) 4. NX Server (Yast GUI to manage FreeNX terminal server, based on ssh) 5. Sax3D (Yast/Sax GUI to manage XGL/AIGLX Compiz for 3D Desktop Effects) Those modules are really *very* needed by the SUSE community. Unfortunately I don't know YCP to program those modules myself, so I ask those, who can do it. The documentation I found is very scarse poor, disallowing me to write anything useful - anything beyond Hello World in YCP. I would like you to recall that Yast has no been updated since SUSE 9.x times (except maybe AppArmor) and people saw no new modules since then. I think it is time to revise what we have. What do you think ? -Big thanks in advance -Alexey Eremenko. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Massive Feature Request of new Yast Modules for 10.3
FTP server isn't a bad idea though, help about that is asked now and then on #suse (IRC). I have actually submitted a request more than a year ago. Hope someone will do it by 10.3. I would be very thankful for that person. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=118041 I have reopened updated the bug to 10.3 timeline. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Default wallpaper in KDE
If you have a concenrete 100% free suggestion, let us here it. Insulting our artist won't surely help you in any way. OK, So I would prefer to see SUSE Linux 10.0 default wallpaper on 10.2, because it's most beautyful up to now. Really, the 10.2 wallpaper is a bit primitive / out-of-place. Also, I would like older beautyful wallpapers from SUSE 9.1 to be included. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Default wallpaper in KDE
please include SUSE 10.0 and SUSE 9.1 wallpapers at least if you dont want to make it default. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] VIA Unichrome Pro GPU
VIA drivers on Linux are very buggy. In fact X failes on two of my PCs running VIA KM266 and VIA KM400 Unichrome graphics. I recommend using VESA driver for users who runs VIA. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] anyone could successfully launch a http web server on openSUSE 10.2 B1 ?
hi all ! I could not launch apache server on the new BETA version... the bug details are here: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215992 any idea? or a workaround? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2
I like it very much to see more packages on the CDs/DVD. (7 CDs vs 5CDs for 10.0) I like this decision. I would really like to see an optional second DVD that has all the rest packages from the FTP tree (otherwise I will download the tree anyways). In real world, it is much faster to spend a day or two to download everything and then just spend few seconds installing rare stuff from the second DVD. (instead of minutes for installing from FTP) Debians practises Dual DVDs since 3.1, I think as their official thingie. Another topic: Linspire have proprietary codecs on their Freespire distro. So, I assume distributing those is legal... Can we include those codecs on our closed-source CD ? Andreas Jaeger: keep up the good work ! -Fenix*NBK*. 22.10.2006. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] feasibility of porting opensuse to SPARC
Actually, openSUSE is very good OS and is more convenient than Solaris.So if you have powerful multi-CPU SPARC Server and want a convenient OS, openSUSE is the only way to go.This way you can reutilize Sun Servers as Linux Workstations or Servers. But this would require a very serious rebuild of the whole distro. Question:How much time it would require for 1 Linux expert to port all openSUSE from x86 to SPARC ? (including installer full FTP repository) provided he know both architectures works full-time. 1 week, 1 month, 1 year ?
Re: [opensuse-factory] feasibility of porting opensuse to SPARC
There is a new project about this called Cross Linux From Scratch 1.0.0http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=03728#0 Look at it - it's about cross-compiling Linux distro.
Re: [opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation
knx 0.1 was released in 2004 I think, and was never updated.knx is just a 2-day hack by some NX programmers.The same programmers say, that it would be more correct to implement NX into existing software intstead of writing something separate - the existing software is: Konqueror nx:// protocol KIO and krdc.
Re: [opensuse-factory] List of current patterns
On 9/26/06, Gaël Lams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any plan to add LTSP, the Linux Terminal Server Project? Ididn't see it in the server section but it's a software that isprobably worth itKind regards,GaëlWell, FreeNX Terminal Server is part of openSUSE. I am not sure if it's part of patterns however. Also about Xen:I am *not* sure if it's server function. Because it is useful for emulation software development as well. I think it must be in emulation category, where Xen, Qemu, Bochs, DOSbox and Wine belongs.
Re: [opensuse-factory] Discussiong about Yast pattern-category for Network Admins
How about Open-NMSNice competitor for Cacti Nagios Now, If I understand correctly this is a SNMP manager.Used for Pro-Active Real-time management?
Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Python Development Pattern
On 9/22/06, Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those that like to develop in python, here's a pattern.Is thisusefull?How can it be improved?PyQtericlibxml2-pythonlibxslt-pythonpython-gtkpython-ldappython-wxGTKpython-wxGTK-doc python-wxGTK-examplespyxmltreelineWhat do you think about adding PyKDE and it's documentation tutorial, as well as PyQt documentation ?
Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Web Development Pattern
On 9/22/06, Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a pattern for Tools and libraries for web applicationdevelopment.Please comment and help to improve,What about adding some tools for that ? Suggestions: 1) Quanta+ (part of kdewebdev3 package)2) Nvu (Not sure if it's part of SUSE, but based on Mozilla source code)
Re: [opensuse-factory] Java 1.5
Please try to use FreeJava as much as possible, and use less Sun Java.Especially now, when FreeJava has the same feature-set.
Re: [opensuse-factory] RFC: Web Development Pattern
mandatoryapache2yast2-http-serveroptional, enabled by defaultapache2-doc apache2-example-pagesapache2-mod_php5apache2-mod_pythonapache2-preforkapache2_mod_perllibapr-util1libapr1mysqlphp5-ctypephp5-domphp5-iconvphp5-mysqlphp5-mysqliphp5-pdo_mysql I am not sure, but I think apache2-prefork is mandatory, because Apache2 won't start without it.
Re: [opensuse-factory] Discussiong about Yast pattern-category for Network Admins
On 9/18/06, Truth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, and wireshark (originally called ethreal). Maybe you've already added that? This is added already. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.2 Alpha 4 install fails on low end hardware
plz add the info here: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=202079 All your ideas, testcases and other info... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Discussiong about Yast pattern-category for Network Admins
Hi all ! This topic is old, but I have several additions here: I think 2 packages must belong here, undiscussed previously. Those are: -whois -mtr - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Yast Package Patterns / Categories Discussion
Do you have a complete list? I have no complete list, but I know that Debian also has sink and mrtg packages. Those packages are NOT part of SUSE. mtr is another package that would be good to add to the network admins category. Already part of SUSE. I have no complete list as of yet, because 1) not all packages I use for my job. 2) not all packages are part of SUSE. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] discussing problems with Yast Package Setup patterns or problem
I veto kolourpaint because I don't see basic painting as a very common job for today's users. You don't see, but the users see. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Yast Package Patterns / Categories Discussion
Hi all ! I would like to point to current problems with Yast so called Patterns - maybe better name would be Categories: 1.There is a topic named: Primary Functions I think it must be renamed to Server Functions. 2. And some additional services should be added there - such as telnet-server, SSH server and FreeNX terminal server. 3. Also, I believe that network admins deserve a section dedicated for them, starting with several tools such as: Wireshark, Quagga, Nmap and please add Webmin too. (currently Webmin is not part of SUSE at all) -Any thoughts? -Alexey. 9.9.2006. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] discussing problems with Yast Package Setup patterns or problem
Hi all ! There are several bugs opened about it: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=204407 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=204403 openSUSE 10.2 has no simple graphics editors installed by default. simple graphics editor is a must for modern operating system, like Windows or openSUSE, so that normal Home Users can start working just away, and no look any further. bottom line: The best simple editor in the world is KDE Kolourpaint which blows both MS Paint and KPaint out of the water, so I recommend you to add it as a default choice for those people, who select KDE as a default Desktop Environment. what do you think? Also, while the GIMP is installed it's help is missing. I think the two packages must be tied to one another. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Discussion about starting BETA process earlier - by end of sep 2006
Hi all ! I would like to ask to start the BETA process of openSUSE 10.2 earlier. Alpha4 now is stable enough to be almost BETA - a few fixes here and there and we are BETA-ready. I think it is not-needed to waste another month of time to get to Alpha5 and then BETA1. I suggest, that, because we have almost-stable distro now, start the BETA process by end of this month (Sep, 2006), instead of end of next month, and make feature freeze earlier. So our BETA process will last 1 month longer, and in the end deadline (Dec,2006) we (Novell+Community) will be able to deliver a better and more stable OS for day-to-day use. I want openSUSE 10.2 to be better tested than previous OSes: SUSE Linux 10.0 and 10.1. What do you think? -Alexey Eremenko, Linux community member. -8.sep.2006. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Discussion about starting BETA process earlier - by end of sep 2006
I agree. As far as I understand you, the release date should remain the same, just the time for real BUG fixing should be bigger. Only the feature freeze will be earlier. Yes, release date should be normal, Dec, 2006. But Testing perioud should be longer - because both previous versions 10.0 and 10.1 were released with some annoying bugs left. In 10.1 - there was one dumb decision, which I disagree with - change the package-dependency-resolver in the BETA stage. This was a dumb decision because this was very big change that has negative effect on the final release, for *all* the users, so 10.1 was both late and buggy. I want to make this version more deeply tested. This means earlier major feature freeze and better bugfixing. You said about: - Kernel 2.6.18 (is in RC at the moment) This thing will be final before Dec, so I see no problem with this one. - FireFox 2 - k3b 1.0 Here we must ask the teams when they want to release those. If they can assure us that they release their software before RC then we can include their software. BETA versions are exists for both products. We must quick-test those BETA versions. I have quick-tested FFox 2.0 BETA 1 and found no major bugs/regressions compared to FFox 1.5. If the BETA versions of K3b (preview 2) and FFox Beta are *more* stable than previous stable versions (K3b 0.12, FFox 1.5), we can add them safely, if they are less stable let's not add them in 10.2 timeline at all. - Gnome 2.16 (ok, that one is released. I don't see a problem) This thing is final, so I see no problem with this one. Bottom line: If the new software's maintainers assure that final software will be released before RC of openSUSE *and* current Beta versions are stable enough it is safe to include those into our BETAs. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] discussing problems with Yast Package Setup patterns or problem
The KDE/GNOME default missed all the multimedia stuff and I just fixed this, so this requirement is fullfilled. I don't know in which package kolourpaint is, so cannot tell whether it will be installed by default. First of all you can search it in Yast, by selecting : check in description. Second: Kolourpaint is part of kdegraphics3-imaging package. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] discussing problems with Yast Package Setup patterns or problem
Veto. kdegraphics3-imaging contains also other stuff like the second and third then installed graphic viewer. May I suggest to rather move kolourpaint into the base kdegraphics3 package if it's wanted to get installed by default? I agree to either install kdegraphics3-imaging by default or to move Kolourpaint to kdegraphics3. Because both solutions resolves the problem... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Discussion about starting BETA process earlier - by end of sep 2006
On 9/8/06, Stephan Binner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 08 September 2006 16:19, Alexey Eremenko wrote: I think it is not-needed to waste another month of time to get to Alpha5 and then BETA1. [..] and make feature freeze earlier. So adding and completing features is a waste of time? Thanks for the laugh. It is NOT waste of time, but having more stable community OS *is* more important than having 2 or 3 extra features in. The features that are half-developed and unstable can be included in separate repository, after the OS release so you still be able to use them at your own risk. Pushing half-developed features into OS results in SUSE Linux 10.1 - both late and unstable OS. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
