RE: PL/SQL help

2002-02-22 Thread Ghadge,Sameer

i had similar situation,
 1. wrote .sql script which has 'set serveroutput on 'in it
2.set it in glogin.sql


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> 1. there isn't a host command in PL/SQL.  Read up on external
> procedures for this.  You need to be painfully aware of the 
> security implications of this.  You need to ask yourself if this
> is really necessary.  If so, you can write external procs in
> Java, C, or even Perl ( that last one isn't well documented... yet )
> 
> 
> 2. DBMS_OUTPUT:  read up on the docs for it. there's a 
> built in procedure for this, dbms_output.enable.
> 
> Jared
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> Hello,
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> How I can i issue host commands from within a PL/SQL block in 8i(8.1.7) ??
> Also is there a way to issue set serveroutput on from within a stored 
> procedure so that when someone run the stored procedure, the stored 
> procedure output will be seen even if the person forgot to set 
> serveroutput 
> on for their sql*plus session ??
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OracleMTSService on win2000 and Database on solaris.

2002-02-22 Thread Abhijit

Hi ,
We are planning to deploy some VB forms (with some COm components) on
WEB. Can anybody share their experiences with OracleMTSServie on
win2000(with IIS) and database on unix/solaris . What are the
advantages/disadvantages ? What will be the issues from database aspect
??

Backend -Database version is 8.0.5 on Sun
Middle-tier: Win2000 with SP6 installed .


Any help is appreciated.

Regards ,
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ORA-27072

2002-02-22 Thread Shibu



Hi all..
 
My database is going down frequently  showing 
this error in alertfile . This  is happening to different datafiles and 
controlfiles.
What are the possibilities that cause this error ? 
How can i avoid this error ?
 
oracle 8.1.7 in win2k 
 
 
Errors in file 
C:\oracle\admin\acusis\bdump\acusisCKPT.TRC:ORA-00206: error in writing 
(block 3, # blocks 1) of controlfileORA-00202: controlfile: 
'D:\ORADATA\CONTROL01.CTL'ORA-27072: skgfdisp: I/O errorOSD-04008: 
WriteFile() failure, unable to write to fileO/S-Error: (OS 33) The process 
cannot access the file because another process has locked a portion of the 
file.
 
regards,
 
shibu


Oracle OLE-DB

2002-02-22 Thread Viral Amin
Title: Oracle  OLE-DB 





Hi All


Can anyone help me on this..Pls reply ASAP


The requirement is as follows:
-- The front-end is reading some data from external files (flat files like csv or maybe xml).
-- The middle tier application (C++ component) is processing this information
i.e. identifying the data and mapping the information to the respective table/column format
-- The middle tier application is storing this mapped information in some kind of buffer/array
-- The OLE-DB (or anything similar) set of functions/procedures should provide means to interface
with this buffer and also the oracle database.

I wanted to know if there is any layer (like OLE-DB or something similar) that
can read this and provide functions that can insert/update data to the oracle database. 
Please let me know anyone's view on this. Let anybody forward me the ideas if any. 



Regards,


Viral Amin





Networker?

2002-02-22 Thread ltiu

Hello,

/etc/init.d/networker

Is this script related to Legato Storage Manager in any way? Is this 
essential for the operation of Oracle9i in a Sun? What is this script for?

Thanks for any help.

ltiu
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RE: PL/SQL help

2002-02-22 Thread Jared . Still

> Begin
>   dbms_output.enable(1);
>   dbms_output.put_line('Jared is wrong!');
> end;
>/

Oh well, ain't the first time.  :)

I always put 'set serveroutput on size 100' 
in glogin.sql

Jared







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I do not know a way to enable DBMS from within a procedure either. The
second item Jared mentions does not seem to set the session to recieve
output. I just ran a check to see and the 'enable' portion of DBMS did not
set the toggle the session for output.

I used this simple script

Begin
  dbms_output.enable(1);
  dbms_output.put_line('Jared is wrong!');
end;
/

IF you run this script you will recieve the procedure completed 
successfully
message. If you the issue a 'set serveroutput on' and run again you will
recieve the output text twice.

If anyone knows how get DBMS to output without the serveroutput option 
being
explicitly set I would love to hear it.

Alec

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1. there isn't a host command in PL/SQL.  Read up on external
procedures for this.  You need to be painfully aware of the
security implications of this.  You need to ask yourself if this
is really necessary.  If so, you can write external procs in
Java, C, or even Perl ( that last one isn't well documented... yet )


2. DBMS_OUTPUT:  read up on the docs for it. there's a
built in procedure for this, dbms_output.enable.

Jared





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Hello,

How I can i issue host commands from within a PL/SQL block in 8i(8.1.7) ??
Also is there a way to issue set serveroutput on from within a stored
procedure so that when someone run the stored procedure, the stored
procedure output will be seen even if the person forgot to set
serveroutput
on for their sql*plus session ??

TIA

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RE: Rollback Segments

2002-02-22 Thread Mohammad Rafiq


I used a lot 'ior i' to install our customized databases on new 
machines...installed oracle ..created database,,initialised it and imported 
customised database with full dump

Those ior commands were wonderful and you may still see it in dbstart and 
dbshut file to provide backword support by oracle...

Regards
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And how about the customer who used 'ior i' to 'start up the database' when
he should have used 'ior w'??!?!?

(for those who have forgotten: ior i - initialize (create) the V5 Db, ior w
- warm start the database, ior s - shutdown)

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RE: PL/SQL help

2002-02-22 Thread Alec Macdonell

I do not know a way to enable DBMS from within a procedure either. The
second item Jared mentions does not seem to set the session to recieve
output. I just ran a check to see and the 'enable' portion of DBMS did not
set the toggle the session for output.

I used this simple script

Begin
  dbms_output.enable(1);
  dbms_output.put_line('Jared is wrong!');
end;
/

IF you run this script you will recieve the procedure completed successfully
message. If you the issue a 'set serveroutput on' and run again you will
recieve the output text twice.

If anyone knows how get DBMS to output without the serveroutput option being
explicitly set I would love to hear it.

Alec

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1. there isn't a host command in PL/SQL.  Read up on external
procedures for this.  You need to be painfully aware of the
security implications of this.  You need to ask yourself if this
is really necessary.  If so, you can write external procs in
Java, C, or even Perl ( that last one isn't well documented... yet )


2. DBMS_OUTPUT:  read up on the docs for it. there's a
built in procedure for this, dbms_output.enable.

Jared





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Hello,

How I can i issue host commands from within a PL/SQL block in 8i(8.1.7) ??
Also is there a way to issue set serveroutput on from within a stored
procedure so that when someone run the stored procedure, the stored
procedure output will be seen even if the person forgot to set
serveroutput
on for their sql*plus session ??

TIA

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Re: PL/SQL help

2002-02-22 Thread Jared . Still

Re the use of PIPE's to execute commands:

There's a page on my website on using DBMS_PIPE and perl
for debugging PL/SQL.  A slight change is all that's need to make
it execute a command.

Simple to do, and fraught with security implications.

http://www.cybcon.com/~jkstill/util/debug_pipe/debug_pipe.html

Jared





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You can't SET SERVEROUTPUT ON from within a PL/SQL block,
because that's a SQL*Plus command, not a PL/SQL function.
You *can* invoke dbms_output.enable(), but that still
doesn't set the flag within SQL*Plus that tells SQL*Plus to
fetch and display the output.

If you tend to forget a lot, you could issue the SET
SERVEROUTPUT ON command from your SQL*Plus login file.

I know of no way to directly execute commands from within a
PL/SQL block. I have heard of using DBMS_PIPE to send
commnands to a daemon (written in a language such as C) that
executes commands on your behalf. I've never actually done
that myself, but I can see where it's possible.

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Friday, February 22, 2002, 4:13:19 PM, you wrote:
kk> I can i issue host commands from within a PL/SQL block in 8i(8.1.7) ??
kk> Also is there a way to issue set serveroutput on from within a stored 
kk> procedure so that when someone run the stored procedure, the stored 
kk> procedure output will be seen even if the person forgot to set 
serveroutput 
kk> on for their sql*plus session ??

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get out of command without leaving RMAN ???

2002-02-22 Thread Leslie Lu

Hi,

I made some mistake on a RMAN command, and then try to
get out of the command, I tried ;, exit, /, but none
of them works, they just keep showing me the next
line.  So I used control+C, it does get out the
command, but I was out of RMAN also.  I was back in OS
prompt.

RMAN> release channel'
2> ;
3> exit
4> /
5>

So, if there anyway to get out the command without
leaving RMAN?  Thank you!

Leslie


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Re: testing freelists

2002-02-22 Thread Anjo Kolk

See my comments in the text:


Robert Eskridge wrote:

> (20 days later -- occurrences aren't that common)
>
> Jared,
>
> Ok, I've re-RTFM'd the Concepts manual and have dog eared Steve's book
> unbelievably.  I've used the event 10046 traces while the blocking
> lock event was going on.  The curious thing is that I'm not seeing any
> buffer busy waits.  The blocked process sits there and cranks out an
> equeue wait trace every 3 seconds and does not report a file, block
> or row that it is waiting on.  If I'm reading Steve's book correctly,
> I should see file and block but no row if it's an initrans problem, so
> that's out.
>

I am assuming that the mode for the TX enqueue is 4. Right ?


>
> In Katz's article in the Feb 2002 elementK Journal he says that if all
> three are 0 then it's a problem with free space in the block and maybe
> pctfree is low. The table I'm inserting into has 2k blocks and
> PCTFREE=30.  The insert is only populating 7 of the 185 columns,
> that's 6 varchar2's and a date.  There should be plenty of room,
> unless as you pointed out that the problem was really not in this
> table -- possibly in the indexes.  This guy does have 15 indexes (all
> single column, all PCTFREE=10).  A curious thing is that when I look
> at the blocker, he shows that he's blocking on 2 tables, this one that
> he has a transaction open on, and a journaling table that triggers off
> the first insert into -- but his rows are only 70 bytes and he has
> PCTFREE=10 also.
>

Are the indexes UNIQUE ? If yes, what is the chance of people inserting into with the 
same value ?
Are the indexes BITMAP ?


>
> So I've got 17 suspects, all with plausible alibis.  And I haven't
> figured out how to get the enqueue wait to squeal on any of them.  If
> I'm understanding the file=0 block=0 row=0 properly, he tried, he
> couldn't get a block so he waits 3 seconds and tries again
> indefinately.  But when one of these happens, I see a rash of them so
> something's causing it.
>

Forget about the file, block, row values. They don't mean a thing if you are not 
waiting
on TX mode 6.

>
> I keep returning to free lists.  This is an evolved application (he
> says euphemistically) and it's had a freelist=1 on everything since it
> slithered out of the slime.  Now it's running on a 4 cpu sparc.  I'm
> wondering if the free list is just getting overran and if bumping it
> to the sometimes advised cpu*2 could clear the problem.  I have
> lingering doubts because I haven't found anything that specifically
> says what I should be seeing when that happens.
>

The only freelist problem that you could have is transaction freelists. But you
are doing inserts so that is not the case here.


>
> So I guess I should try to make this into a question hmmn...
>
> Am I barking up the wrong tree?
>

The right tree, but the tree doesn't understand barking ;-)

Anjo.

>
> -rje
>
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Tuesday, February 05, 2002, 10:36:27 AM
> > Subject: testing freelists
> >
> > ===8<==Original message text===
> > Robert,
> >
> > Simulating the problem and proving the correction is an excellent idea.
> >
> > One thing to consider when putting together your testing scenario is
> > that writes to the database block by a transaction are done in memory,
> > that is they are made to the cached database blocks.
> >
> > An internal locking mechanism ( a latch ) is used to control access to
> > the cache, and it is normally held for only a short time.
> >
> > The data may be written to the disk before a commit, and it may not
> > be written to disk until after a commit.  ( referring to datafiles only
> > here, not the redo log ).
> >
> > The 60 second sleep in your script is only simulating user think time,
> > it's not actually blocking anything.  You will need to similate several
> > session simultaneously inserting, and you will need to know if the
> > contention
> > is in the table or in an index: I'm guessing it's an index or indexes.
> >
> > Some time spent with the Concepts manual would help you out here.
> >
> > Here's an excerpt from the section on database writer:
> >
> > Database Writer (DBWn)
> >
> > The database writer writes modified blocks from the database buffer
> > cache to the datafiles. Although one database writer process (DBW0)
> > is sufficient for most systems, you can configure additional processes
> > (DBW1 through DBW9) to improve write performance for a system that
> > modifies data heavily. The initialization parameter DB_WRITER_PROCESSES
> > specifies the number of DBWn processes.
> >
> > Since Oracle uses write-ahead logging, DBWn does not need to write
> > blocks when a transaction commits. Instead, DBWn is designed to perform
> > batched
> > writes with high efficiency. In the most common case, DBWn writes only
> > when more
> > data needs to be read into the system global area and too few database
> > buffers are 

RE: 8i Replication: administrator privs

2002-02-22 Thread Bellows, Bambi



Somehow this seems like a bad idea.  I've always restricted
administration to REPADMIN, but maybe I lack outside-of-the-box
thinking



I'm kinda an outside-the-box-kind-of-gal.  But, yeah, that looks like a
recipe for failure to me too.

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Fw: Group email account for exchanging files and scripts

2002-02-22 Thread Paul Vallee

FYI to all.
There's no reason both groups shouldn't use this resource, so please join in
and contribute your scripts and documents that would be too large to send as
attachments.
Best regards,
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I was sad to hear that scripts needed to be deleted at the Yahoo group email
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fear that they'll be deleted or that someone might change the password on
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I have taken the liberty of forwarding all of the yahoo.com messages to that
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The nice thing is that if the scripts are well described in the body of your
emails, they'll be searchable via the search interface. This account is part
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Re: PL/SQL help

2002-02-22 Thread Jonathan Gennick

You can't SET SERVEROUTPUT ON from within a PL/SQL block,
because that's a SQL*Plus command, not a PL/SQL function.
You *can* invoke dbms_output.enable(), but that still
doesn't set the flag within SQL*Plus that tells SQL*Plus to
fetch and display the output.

If you tend to forget a lot, you could issue the SET
SERVEROUTPUT ON command from your SQL*Plus login file.

I know of no way to directly execute commands from within a
PL/SQL block. I have heard of using DBMS_PIPE to send
commnands to a daemon (written in a language such as C) that
executes commands on your behalf. I've never actually done
that myself, but I can see where it's possible.

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Friday, February 22, 2002, 4:13:19 PM, you wrote:
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kk> Also is there a way to issue set serveroutput on from within a stored 
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RE: Tkprof output

2002-02-22 Thread Baker, Barbara

Dennis:
In the session:
alter session set events '10046 trace name context forever, level
12'


Barb

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>   Is there a way to set the level within the session as:
>alter session set sql_trace = true
>   Or do I have to start the session, start a SQLPLUS session, find the
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> Set you 10046 trace at level 4 or 12, and then check the trace file.
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> Hi Listers,
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> I got the following statement in the tkprof output file :
> 
> update EMP set "ENAME"=:V001,"EMPNO"=:V002
> where rowid = :V003
> 
> I'm just wondering how to get the value of that variables (instead of
> :V001,
> 
> :V002 and :V003).
> Is there a way to do that ?
> Thanks.
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RE: Tkprof output

2002-02-22 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

Paul (or anyone) - 
Is there a way to set the level within the session as:
 alter session set sql_trace = true
Or do I have to start the session, start a SQLPLUS session, find the
session_id and run the procedure to set it on another session? 
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Set you 10046 trace at level 4 or 12, and then check the trace file.

Paul


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Hi Listers,

I got the following statement in the tkprof output file :

update EMP set "ENAME"=:V001,"EMPNO"=:V002
where rowid = :V003

I'm just wondering how to get the value of that variables (instead of :V001,

:V002 and :V003).
Is there a way to do that ?
Thanks.

Aldi

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Re: PL/SQL help

2002-02-22 Thread Jared . Still

1. there isn't a host command in PL/SQL.  Read up on external
procedures for this.  You need to be painfully aware of the 
security implications of this.  You need to ask yourself if this
is really necessary.  If so, you can write external procs in
Java, C, or even Perl ( that last one isn't well documented... yet )


2. DBMS_OUTPUT:  read up on the docs for it. there's a 
built in procedure for this, dbms_output.enable.

Jared





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Hello,

How I can i issue host commands from within a PL/SQL block in 8i(8.1.7) ??
Also is there a way to issue set serveroutput on from within a stored 
procedure so that when someone run the stored procedure, the stored 
procedure output will be seen even if the person forgot to set 
serveroutput 
on for their sql*plus session ??

TIA

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8i Replication: administrator privs

2002-02-22 Thread Suzy Vordos


Would you consider this to be an open opportunity for disaster? 
Granting each application schema
'dbms_repcat_admin.grant_admin_any_schema' in a replicated
environment.   Here's the example:

   REPADMIN = replication administrator/propagator/receiver
   ACCT_APP = application schema
   HR_APP = application schema

The owners of ACCT_APP & HR_APP want administrator privs granted to
these schemas so they can create replication groups, add/remove objects
and generate replication support within their replication groups.

Somehow this seems like a bad idea.  I've always restricted
administration to REPADMIN, but maybe I lack outside-of-the-box
thinking

Thanks,
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Re: testing freelists

2002-02-22 Thread Robert Eskridge

(20 days later -- occurrences aren't that common)

Jared,

Ok, I've re-RTFM'd the Concepts manual and have dog eared Steve's book
unbelievably.  I've used the event 10046 traces while the blocking
lock event was going on.  The curious thing is that I'm not seeing any
buffer busy waits.  The blocked process sits there and cranks out an
equeue wait trace every 3 seconds and does not report a file, block
or row that it is waiting on.  If I'm reading Steve's book correctly,
I should see file and block but no row if it's an initrans problem, so
that's out.

In Katz's article in the Feb 2002 elementK Journal he says that if all
three are 0 then it's a problem with free space in the block and maybe
pctfree is low. The table I'm inserting into has 2k blocks and
PCTFREE=30.  The insert is only populating 7 of the 185 columns,
that's 6 varchar2's and a date.  There should be plenty of room,
unless as you pointed out that the problem was really not in this
table -- possibly in the indexes.  This guy does have 15 indexes (all
single column, all PCTFREE=10).  A curious thing is that when I look
at the blocker, he shows that he's blocking on 2 tables, this one that
he has a transaction open on, and a journaling table that triggers off
the first insert into -- but his rows are only 70 bytes and he has
PCTFREE=10 also.

So I've got 17 suspects, all with plausible alibis.  And I haven't
figured out how to get the enqueue wait to squeal on any of them.  If
I'm understanding the file=0 block=0 row=0 properly, he tried, he
couldn't get a block so he waits 3 seconds and tries again
indefinately.  But when one of these happens, I see a rash of them so
something's causing it.

I keep returning to free lists.  This is an evolved application (he
says euphemistically) and it's had a freelist=1 on everything since it
slithered out of the slime.  Now it's running on a 4 cpu sparc.  I'm
wondering if the free list is just getting overran and if bumping it
to the sometimes advised cpu*2 could clear the problem.  I have
lingering doubts because I haven't found anything that specifically
says what I should be seeing when that happens.

So I guess I should try to make this into a question hmmn...

Am I barking up the wrong tree?

-rje



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> Date: Tuesday, February 05, 2002, 10:36:27 AM
> Subject: testing freelists
> 
> ===8<==Original message text===
> Robert,
> 
> Simulating the problem and proving the correction is an excellent idea.
> 
> One thing to consider when putting together your testing scenario is
> that writes to the database block by a transaction are done in memory,
> that is they are made to the cached database blocks.
> 
> An internal locking mechanism ( a latch ) is used to control access to
> the cache, and it is normally held for only a short time.
> 
> The data may be written to the disk before a commit, and it may not
> be written to disk until after a commit.  ( referring to datafiles only
> here, not the redo log ).
> 
> The 60 second sleep in your script is only simulating user think time,
> it's not actually blocking anything.  You will need to similate several
> session simultaneously inserting, and you will need to know if the 
> contention
> is in the table or in an index: I'm guessing it's an index or indexes.
> 
> Some time spent with the Concepts manual would help you out here.
> 
> Here's an excerpt from the section on database writer:
> 
> Database Writer (DBWn) 
> 
> The database writer writes modified blocks from the database buffer 
> cache to the datafiles. Although one database writer process (DBW0) 
> is sufficient for most systems, you can configure additional processes
> (DBW1 through DBW9) to improve write performance for a system that 
> modifies data heavily. The initialization parameter DB_WRITER_PROCESSES 
> specifies the number of DBWn processes. 
> 
> Since Oracle uses write-ahead logging, DBWn does not need to write 
> blocks when a transaction commits. Instead, DBWn is designed to perform 
> batched
> writes with high efficiency. In the most common case, DBWn writes only 
> when more 
> data needs to be read into the system global area and too few database
> buffers are free. The least recently used data is written to the datafiles 
> first. DBWn 
> also performs writes for other functions such as checkpointing. 
> 
> Take a look at Chapter 15 on Transactions as well.
> 
> Also check out Steve Adams' web site, www.ixora.com.au.  Lots of 
> interesting stuff
> there if you want to learn about the internals.  Here's an excerpt from 
> the section
> on Free lists:
> 
> As mentioned previously, free list contention occurs when multiple 
> processes using the same free list attempt to modify the data block on the 
> head of the free list concurrently. It is shown in V$WAITSTAT against the data block 
>class. V$WAITSTAT can also show contention for the segment header and free list

RE: How to make deletes faster.

2002-02-22 Thread Aponte, Tony



Mmm.  Max sequence number.  
I'll go on the assumption that you are selecting the max for a column populated 
by a sequence. Here's one option.1) CREATE TABLE 
 AS SELECT ROWID myrowid FROM  WHERE 
 < 2) 
DELETE FROM  WHERE ROWID IN (SELECT myrowid FROM 
)3) DROP TABLE Another 
option:
1) establish a maintenance window 
with users2) CREATE TABLE  3) 
INSERT INTO  SELECT * FROM  WHERE 
 >= 4) 
DROP TABLE 5) RENAME TABLE  to 
6) recreate indexes7) recreate constraints8) 
recreate triggers9) recompile invalid objects10) recreate the 
grantsHere's a slicker option that I had posted 
previously:    
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use a modified version of your duplicate schema idea.  But we don't 
havethe objects in different schemas.  We use partitioned objects so 
that wecan exchange the partitions with the production tables at a scheduled 
time.The voodoo is that we use a single range partition of MAXVALUE and 
allindexes are LOCAL PARTITIONED.  The partitioning key doesn't really 
matterin this setup since we aren't using the features for its advantages, 
justto be able to swap data and index segments on the fly.  I've 
attached atranscript showing the actual sequence but I'll give you a 
shortexplanation first:There are production tables/indexes that 
are used by the application,whether directly or via synonyms.  There is 
a second set of tables with a_TEMP suffix that have duplicate structural 
definitions (constraints,column names and data types, 
etc.)    The indexes also end with a _TEMP butare identical 
to the production ones.  The only difference is that they 
arepartitioned tables/indexes.  All partitioned objects have a single 
rangepartition by a bogus column.  The single partition is bounded by 
theMAXVALUE keyword, so all of the data is contained in one 
partition.Now you can manipulate the _TEMP tables at your 
convenience withoutinterrupting the access tot he "published" objects.  
Once you haverefreshed your _TEMP objects and are ready to publish the new 
data yourwould execute a series of ALTER TABLE _TEMP 
EXCHANGE PARTITIONTABLE .  That's it.  No 
re-pointing of synonyms, revalidating ofviews/stored procs./etc.  The 
application keeps chugging along.  The nextexecution of SQL will use 
the published tables.HTHTony 
Aponte** pseudo-attachment 
**SQL> create table x(x1 number,x2 
varchar2(50));Table created.SQL> create index xi1 on 
x(x1);Index created.SQL> create table y(x1 number,x2 
varchar2(50))  2   partition by range (x1)  (partition y 
values less than (maxvalue));Table created.SQL> 
create index yi1 on y(x1)  2  local (partition yi1 
);Index created.SQL> insert into x values 
(1,'original data from regular table');1 row 
created.SQL> insert into y values (2,'original data from 
partitioned table');1 row created.SQL> 
commit;Commit complete.SQL> select * from 
x;    X1 X2-- 
-- 
1 original data from regular tableSQL> select * from 
y;    X1 X2-- 
-- 
2 original data from partitioned tableSQL> alter table y exchange 
partition y with table x;Table altered.SQL> select * 
from x;    X1 
X2-- 
-- 
2 original data from partitioned tableSQL> select * from 
y;    X1 X

PL/SQL help

2002-02-22 Thread k k

Hello,

I can i issue host commands from within a PL/SQL block in 8i(8.1.7) ??
Also is there a way to issue set serveroutput on from within a stored 
procedure so that when someone run the stored procedure, the stored 
procedure output will be seen even if the person forgot to set serveroutput 
on for their sql*plus session ??

TIA

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Re: How to make deletes faster.

2002-02-22 Thread James Manning

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> You should consider doing a create newtable as select with the oposite 
> conditions as your delete, followed by a truncate/drop, exchange partition or 
> whatever.  Delete is really hard against the undo segments.

Anyway to lessen that?  like nologging on the delete itself, putting
the table into nologging during the delete (if that's an option,
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RE: Compare, Merge and replicate between Oracle and MS Access

2002-02-22 Thread Khedr, Waleed

Switching an Access application from using Access tables to Oracle ODBC
linked tables or ADO tables is extremely easy. Then you can go directly to
your Oracle DB or to a new one outside the network that could be sync using
Oracle Technology.

Waleed

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The Oracle server is on our internal network, the MS Access is on a server
from ISP, which is outside of our network. The cost to eliminate the MS
Access, merge all application to our Oracle is too high, so we decide to
stay the way it is.
 
It's not real replication, just copy(move) the data from Oracle to MS Access
in batch process, but we want to automate the process.

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> Access
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> Are you serious?
> Replication between Oracle and MS Access, why?
> 
> -Original Message-
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> 
> Hi DBAs,
> 
> I am researching for solution for a new project. We have a few tables in
> Oracle8i db, similar tables with more columns and more data in MS Access.
> The data is very static.
> 
> Our plan is to synchronize the two dbs, from then on we will always put
> change(adding more columns, or insert new data) in Oracle first, then
> replicate the change to MS access db in batch process.
> 
> I am looking for solutions
> 1) to compare the existing data in Oracle and MS Access
> 2) to merge the data into Oracle
> 3) to maintain the two db on ongoing basis. periodically check if they are
> in synch, then replicate data to MS access. 
> 
> Is there any tool to do the job? any ideas for solution? One solution I
> thought about is to use MS DTS to put Oracle into Access, then
> compare.
> 
> TIA
> James
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RE: Tkprof output

2002-02-22 Thread Paul . Parker

Set you 10046 trace at level 4 or 12, and then check the trace file.

Paul


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Hi Listers,

I got the following statement in the tkprof output file :

update EMP set "ENAME"=:V001,"EMPNO"=:V002
where rowid = :V003

I'm just wondering how to get the value of that variables (instead of :V001,

:V002 and :V003).
Is there a way to do that ?
Thanks.

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RE: Compare, Merge and replicate between Oracle and MS Access

2002-02-22 Thread Xing, James

Thanks Dennis, link to Oracle in Access through ODBC is one option, actually
good idea.., if I can get through the network. the Access and Oracle are
on different network. 

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> Access
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> James - Have you considered just maintaining the Oracle tables and then
> attaching (or whatever the Access word is) the Oracle table in Access?
> That
> way you have a single table, single source, etc. Simple is good.
> Dennis Williams
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> Hi DBAs,
> 
> I am researching for solution for a new project. We have a few tables in
> Oracle8i db, similar tables with more columns and more data in MS Access.
> The data is very static.
> 
> Our plan is to synchronize the two dbs, from then on we will always put
> change(adding more columns, or insert new data) in Oracle first, then
> replicate the change to MS access db in batch process.
> 
> I am looking for solutions
> 1) to compare the existing data in Oracle and MS Access
> 2) to merge the data into Oracle
> 3) to maintain the two db on ongoing basis. periodically check if they are
> in synch, then replicate data to MS access. 
> 
> Is there any tool to do the job? any ideas for solution? One solution I
> thought about is to use MS DTS to put Oracle into Access, then
> compare.
> 
> TIA
> James
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RE: Compare, Merge and replicate between Oracle and MS Access

2002-02-22 Thread Pardee, Roy E

Can you not substitute say, Oracle Lite for Access on the 'downstream' sites
& use Oracle's native replication?  (Or keep Access as a front-end, but use
OL for the actual storage & the replication.)  I would guess you'd be in for
less work/trouble that way (tho I know zip about Oracle's replication
features).

If you can't, I would try to find a third-party tool that can do it
automagically (http://www.aardvark.on.ca/pd/replicate.html claim to have
such a solution).  If that fails, consider just doing a brute-force complete
update of the Access db & have your downstream sites FTP the entire new mdb
file over top of the old version.

HTH,

-Roy

Roy Pardee
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James can you tell us more about the requirements of your
environment/software that would cause such a solution to arise.  I can see
the possibility of writing a MS Access client that perhaps your sales staff
uses that replicates with the database.  Hopefully, you don't have too many
tables.  You really are not going to have a lot of success I think using
anything but a PL/SQL and VBA solution in this regard. 

- Ethan

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Are you serious?
Replication between Oracle and MS Access, why?

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Hi DBAs,

I am researching for solution for a new project. We have a few tables in
Oracle8i db, similar tables with more columns and more data in MS Access.
The data is very static.

Our plan is to synchronize the two dbs, from then on we will always put
change(adding more columns, or insert new data) in Oracle first, then
replicate the change to MS access db in batch process.

I am looking for solutions
1) to compare the existing data in Oracle and MS Access
2) to merge the data into Oracle
3) to maintain the two db on ongoing basis. periodically check if they are
in synch, then replicate data to MS access. 

Is there any tool to do the job? any ideas for solution? One solution I
thought about is to use MS DTS to put Oracle into Access, then compare.

TIA
James
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PL/SQL help

2002-02-22 Thread k k

Hello,

How I can i issue host commands from within a PL/SQL block in 8i(8.1.7) ??
Also is there a way to issue set serveroutput on from within a stored 
procedure so that when someone run the stored procedure, the stored 
procedure output will be seen even if the person forgot to set serveroutput 
on for their sql*plus session ??

TIA

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RE: Compare, Merge and replicate between Oracle and MS Access

2002-02-22 Thread Post, Ethan

I am wondering what the license issues with this would be.  - E

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James - Have you considered just maintaining the Oracle tables and then
attaching (or whatever the Access word is) the Oracle table in Access? That
way you have a single table, single source, etc. Simple is good.
Dennis Williams
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Hi DBAs,

I am researching for solution for a new project. We have a few tables in
Oracle8i db, similar tables with more columns and more data in MS Access.
The data is very static.

Our plan is to synchronize the two dbs, from then on we will always put
change(adding more columns, or insert new data) in Oracle first, then
replicate the change to MS access db in batch process.

I am looking for solutions
1) to compare the existing data in Oracle and MS Access
2) to merge the data into Oracle
3) to maintain the two db on ongoing basis. periodically check if they are
in synch, then replicate data to MS access. 

Is there any tool to do the job? any ideas for solution? One solution I
thought about is to use MS DTS to put Oracle into Access, then compare.

TIA
James
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Tkprof output

2002-02-22 Thread Aldi Barco

Hi Listers,

I got the following statement in the tkprof output file :

update EMP set "ENAME"=:V001,"EMPNO"=:V002
where rowid = :V003

I'm just wondering how to get the value of that variables (instead of :V001, 
:V002 and :V003).
Is there a way to do that ?
Thanks.

Aldi

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RE: Compare, Merge and replicate between Oracle and MS Access

2002-02-22 Thread Post, Ethan

You will need to use VBA and DAO to.

1. Connect to the Oracle database.
2. Delete or drop the tables in the Access database.
3. Insert or create the tables from the Oracle database.

Anyone proficient with VBA and DAO and Access should be able to do this very
easily. 

- Ethan

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The Oracle server is on our internal network, the MS Access is on a server
from ISP, which is outside of our network. The cost to eliminate the MS
Access, merge all application to our Oracle is too high, so we decide to
stay the way it is.
 
It's not real replication, just copy(move) the data from Oracle to MS Access
in batch process, but we want to automate the process.

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> Are you serious?
> Replication between Oracle and MS Access, why?
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RE: Compare, Merge and replicate between Oracle and MS Access

2002-02-22 Thread Xing, James

The Oracle server is on our internal network, the MS Access is on a server
from ISP, which is outside of our network. The cost to eliminate the MS
Access, merge all application to our Oracle is too high, so we decide to
stay the way it is.
 
It's not real replication, just copy(move) the data from Oracle to MS Access
in batch process, but we want to automate the process.

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> Access
> 
> Are you serious?
> Replication between Oracle and MS Access, why?
> 
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> 
> 
> Hi DBAs,
> 
> I am researching for solution for a new project. We have a few tables in
> Oracle8i db, similar tables with more columns and more data in MS Access.
> The data is very static.
> 
> Our plan is to synchronize the two dbs, from then on we will always put
> change(adding more columns, or insert new data) in Oracle first, then
> replicate the change to MS access db in batch process.
> 
> I am looking for solutions
> 1) to compare the existing data in Oracle and MS Access
> 2) to merge the data into Oracle
> 3) to maintain the two db on ongoing basis. periodically check if they are
> in synch, then replicate data to MS access. 
> 
> Is there any tool to do the job? any ideas for solution? One solution I
> thought about is to use MS DTS to put Oracle into Access, then
> compare.
> 
> TIA
> James
> 
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RE: Compare, Merge and replicate between Oracle and MS Access

2002-02-22 Thread Post, Ethan

James can you tell us more about the requirements of your
environment/software that would cause such a solution to arise.  I can see
the possibility of writing a MS Access client that perhaps your sales staff
uses that replicates with the database.  Hopefully, you don't have too many
tables.  You really are not going to have a lot of success I think using
anything but a PL/SQL and VBA solution in this regard. 

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Are you serious?
Replication between Oracle and MS Access, why?

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Hi DBAs,

I am researching for solution for a new project. We have a few tables in
Oracle8i db, similar tables with more columns and more data in MS Access.
The data is very static.

Our plan is to synchronize the two dbs, from then on we will always put
change(adding more columns, or insert new data) in Oracle first, then
replicate the change to MS access db in batch process.

I am looking for solutions
1) to compare the existing data in Oracle and MS Access
2) to merge the data into Oracle
3) to maintain the two db on ongoing basis. periodically check if they are
in synch, then replicate data to MS access. 

Is there any tool to do the job? any ideas for solution? One solution I
thought about is to use MS DTS to put Oracle into Access, then compare.

TIA
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RE: Compare, Merge and replicate between Oracle and MS Access

2002-02-22 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

James - Have you considered just maintaining the Oracle tables and then
attaching (or whatever the Access word is) the Oracle table in Access? That
way you have a single table, single source, etc. Simple is good.
Dennis Williams
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Hi DBAs,

I am researching for solution for a new project. We have a few tables in
Oracle8i db, similar tables with more columns and more data in MS Access.
The data is very static.

Our plan is to synchronize the two dbs, from then on we will always put
change(adding more columns, or insert new data) in Oracle first, then
replicate the change to MS access db in batch process.

I am looking for solutions
1) to compare the existing data in Oracle and MS Access
2) to merge the data into Oracle
3) to maintain the two db on ongoing basis. periodically check if they are
in synch, then replicate data to MS access. 

Is there any tool to do the job? any ideas for solution? One solution I
thought about is to use MS DTS to put Oracle into Access, then compare.

TIA
James

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RE: How to audit an exception in a trigger/procedure

2002-02-22 Thread Khedr, Waleed

I agree since it's better than auditing the audit!

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How about monitoring the audit tablespace to ensure it doesn't fill up?

Jared





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Hi all,

In 8.1.7 on HP/UX 11.0, we've got some homemade triggers on a vendor's
schema.  One of these triggers tried to write an audit record to a table 
in
a tablespace different from the table that was being updated, but the 
audit
table's tablespace filled up.

Since we had an exception clause on the trigger to ignore errors (priority
is making sure the purchased app is OK), some of the audits didn't get
written.  We can probably recreate those audits manually, but I'm 
wondering
if there was a better way to handle this in the trigger.  We don't want 
the
trigger to return an exception to the caller, since the caller is most
likely the vendor app.  Basically, we want our trigger to be completely
unobtrusive/unknown to the app.

For example, in an EXCEPTION clause, is it possible to force the current
process to dump a trace without affecting the current transaction?  I was
also thinking that the EXCEPTION could attempt to write to an error table 
in
another tablespace, but since it's still DML, there's no real guarantees
that it won't bonk either.  The only other thing I could think of is to
write a proc that UTL_FILE's a pseudo-trace out to disk that would be 
picked
up by our custom Oracle log checkers. 

Anyone done anything like this before or have any suggestions/pros/cons?

TIA!
Rich Jesse   System/Database Administrator
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RE: How to audit an exception in a trigger/procedure

2002-02-22 Thread Grabowy, Chris

Send an email to whomever in the EXCEPTION clause?  Actually, the whomever
should be some email account that the DBAs can subscribe to (and unsubscribe
when they get that six figure job somewhere else).

Also, is there any interest in coding for those "this full" type error
messages and then increasing the object on the fly??  You probably cant code
for every single error message, but at least get the big ones so you dont
lose any audit data.  And your not jumping through hoops to recover when you
discover the error...

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Hi all,

In 8.1.7 on HP/UX 11.0, we've got some homemade triggers on a vendor's
schema.  One of these triggers tried to write an audit record to a table in
a tablespace different from the table that was being updated, but the audit
table's tablespace filled up.

Since we had an exception clause on the trigger to ignore errors (priority
is making sure the purchased app is OK), some of the audits didn't get
written.  We can probably recreate those audits manually, but I'm wondering
if there was a better way to handle this in the trigger.  We don't want the
trigger to return an exception to the caller, since the caller is most
likely the vendor app.  Basically, we want our trigger to be completely
unobtrusive/unknown to the app.

For example, in an EXCEPTION clause, is it possible to force the current
process to dump a trace without affecting the current transaction?  I was
also thinking that the EXCEPTION could attempt to write to an error table in
another tablespace, but since it's still DML, there's no real guarantees
that it won't bonk either.  The only other thing I could think of is to
write a proc that UTL_FILE's a pseudo-trace out to disk that would be picked
up by our custom Oracle log checkers.  

Anyone done anything like this before or have any suggestions/pros/cons?

TIA!
Rich Jesse   System/Database Administrator
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RE: Compare, Merge and replicate between Oracle and MS Access

2002-02-22 Thread Khedr, Waleed

Are you serious?
Replication between Oracle and MS Access, why?

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Hi DBAs,

I am researching for solution for a new project. We have a few tables in
Oracle8i db, similar tables with more columns and more data in MS Access.
The data is very static.

Our plan is to synchronize the two dbs, from then on we will always put
change(adding more columns, or insert new data) in Oracle first, then
replicate the change to MS access db in batch process.

I am looking for solutions
1) to compare the existing data in Oracle and MS Access
2) to merge the data into Oracle
3) to maintain the two db on ongoing basis. periodically check if they are
in synch, then replicate data to MS access. 

Is there any tool to do the job? any ideas for solution? One solution I
thought about is to use MS DTS to put Oracle into Access, then compare.

TIA
James

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Re: How to audit an exception in a trigger/procedure

2002-02-22 Thread Jared . Still

How about monitoring the audit tablespace to ensure it doesn't fill up?

Jared





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Hi all,

In 8.1.7 on HP/UX 11.0, we've got some homemade triggers on a vendor's
schema.  One of these triggers tried to write an audit record to a table 
in
a tablespace different from the table that was being updated, but the 
audit
table's tablespace filled up.

Since we had an exception clause on the trigger to ignore errors (priority
is making sure the purchased app is OK), some of the audits didn't get
written.  We can probably recreate those audits manually, but I'm 
wondering
if there was a better way to handle this in the trigger.  We don't want 
the
trigger to return an exception to the caller, since the caller is most
likely the vendor app.  Basically, we want our trigger to be completely
unobtrusive/unknown to the app.

For example, in an EXCEPTION clause, is it possible to force the current
process to dump a trace without affecting the current transaction?  I was
also thinking that the EXCEPTION could attempt to write to an error table 
in
another tablespace, but since it's still DML, there's no real guarantees
that it won't bonk either.  The only other thing I could think of is to
write a proc that UTL_FILE's a pseudo-trace out to disk that would be 
picked
up by our custom Oracle log checkers. 

Anyone done anything like this before or have any suggestions/pros/cons?

TIA!
Rich Jesse   System/Database Administrator
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Compare, Merge and replicate between Oracle and MS Access

2002-02-22 Thread Xing, James

Hi DBAs,

I am researching for solution for a new project. We have a few tables in
Oracle8i db, similar tables with more columns and more data in MS Access.
The data is very static.

Our plan is to synchronize the two dbs, from then on we will always put
change(adding more columns, or insert new data) in Oracle first, then
replicate the change to MS access db in batch process.

I am looking for solutions
1) to compare the existing data in Oracle and MS Access
2) to merge the data into Oracle
3) to maintain the two db on ongoing basis. periodically check if they are
in synch, then replicate data to MS access. 

Is there any tool to do the job? any ideas for solution? One solution I
thought about is to use MS DTS to put Oracle into Access, then compare.

TIA
James

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RE: How to audit an exception in a trigger/procedure

2002-02-22 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

if you can (and I assume you can) change the trigger code and if you are on
8i, make use of autonomous transactions. so you can capture all required
information and insert it into a table.

You may want to write this as a separate procedure and call that with
appropriate information from the trigger, so that the procedure is the one
that has the autonomous pragma.

Or put messages on a db pipe, have a pipe daemon listen continuously and as
soon as it gets message, dump into another table and commit.

HTH
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RE: data dictionary View about jobs

2002-02-22 Thread Jesse, Rich

Are you logging in as the owner of the DBMS job?  Stupid
securty-by-obscurity, IMHO.

Rich Jesse   System/Database Administrator
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Do you use "commit" after removing the job?

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Hi, All,

  Is there any Oracle data dict view to see whether the dbms jobs is on the
job queue or not. Why I ask this is that I use dbms_job.remove to remove one
job, later on, I check it using user_jobs, it's still there. Thus  issue
dbms_job.remove again, this time, this execution seems hung there. I log
into sys and issue dbms_job.remove,  I got the following error

ORA-23421: job number 41 is not a job in the job queue
ORA-06512: at "SYS.DBMS_SYS_ERROR", line 86
ORA-06512: at "SYS.DBMS_IJOB", line 525
ORA-06512: at "SYS.DBMS_JOB", line 166
ORA-06512: at line 2

Could anyone tell me why this happens? or is there any dict view to check
the job queue? 

Thanks in advance,

Chuan

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How to audit an exception in a trigger/procedure

2002-02-22 Thread Jesse, Rich

Hi all,

In 8.1.7 on HP/UX 11.0, we've got some homemade triggers on a vendor's
schema.  One of these triggers tried to write an audit record to a table in
a tablespace different from the table that was being updated, but the audit
table's tablespace filled up.

Since we had an exception clause on the trigger to ignore errors (priority
is making sure the purchased app is OK), some of the audits didn't get
written.  We can probably recreate those audits manually, but I'm wondering
if there was a better way to handle this in the trigger.  We don't want the
trigger to return an exception to the caller, since the caller is most
likely the vendor app.  Basically, we want our trigger to be completely
unobtrusive/unknown to the app.

For example, in an EXCEPTION clause, is it possible to force the current
process to dump a trace without affecting the current transaction?  I was
also thinking that the EXCEPTION could attempt to write to an error table in
another tablespace, but since it's still DML, there's no real guarantees
that it won't bonk either.  The only other thing I could think of is to
write a proc that UTL_FILE's a pseudo-trace out to disk that would be picked
up by our custom Oracle log checkers.  

Anyone done anything like this before or have any suggestions/pros/cons?

TIA!
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RE: sql question

2002-02-22 Thread oracle dba

Thanks Paul,

That worked.


>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>Subject: RE: sql question
>Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 07:53:39 -0800
>
>How about :
>
>select num
>from NUMBERS,
>( select begin,  end from RANGE)
>where num between begin and end;
>
>Paul
>
>
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>
>
>You are right that the range aren't necessarily contigous.
>I'd probably have to write it in PL/SQL, I just want to see
>if one can do this with SQL.
>
>Thanks.
>
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >Subject: Re: sql question
> >Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 21:33:20 -0800
> >
> >Rich,
> >
> >Are you sure that that is what you want ?
> >Suppose your range values were something like :
> >  begin end
> >  1 9
> >  1519
> >  2329
> >ie, the RANGE table shows that 10-14 and 20-22 are invalid ("not 
>allowed")
> >values.
> >
> >Your problem statement and the SQL that Paul provides for the problem
> >statement
> >would return numbers like 10, 11, 20,21 which are, actually, invalid.
> >
> >You'd have to write a cursor to loop through the valid ranges  ??
> >
> >Hemant K Chitale
> >Principal DBA
> >Chartered Semiconductor Manufacturing Ltd
> >
> >
> >Paul Baumgartel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   22/02/2002 12:43 PM
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> >  Subject: Re: sql question
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >To use your example column names:
> >
> >select num from numbers where num between
> >(select min(begin) from range) and (select max(end) from range);
> >
> >
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RE: data dictionary View about jobs

2002-02-22 Thread Khedr, Waleed

Do you use "commit" after removing the job?

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Hi, All,

  Is there any Oracle data dict view to see whether the dbms jobs is on the
job queue or not. Why I ask this is that I use dbms_job.remove to remove one
job, later on, I check it using user_jobs, it's still there. Thus  issue
dbms_job.remove again, this time, this execution seems hung there. I log
into sys and issue dbms_job.remove,  I got the following error

ORA-23421: job number 41 is not a job in the job queue
ORA-06512: at "SYS.DBMS_SYS_ERROR", line 86
ORA-06512: at "SYS.DBMS_IJOB", line 525
ORA-06512: at "SYS.DBMS_JOB", line 166
ORA-06512: at line 2

Could anyone tell me why this happens? or is there any dict view to check
the job queue? 

Thanks in advance,

Chuan

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Re: Blobs and Extents

2002-02-22 Thread Peter Gram

Darren

a 1 :
===
I would use both thprof to make sure that the SQL is efficient and 
statpack to monitor the full database
a 2 :
===
I would never recommend to make the data files bigger than 2 Gb on unix, 
so anything up to 2 GB will be fine.
How small you what to make the files depends on the number of disk's or 
if you use raid to strip ? 

a 3 :
===
You would use locally managed table spaces and make the extend size 1, 
4, 10 or 512 Mb in this case it does not matter.

a 4 :
===
Yes, if the table space is read only you only need one backup but on the 
other hand who gives a dam on 4 - 6 GB tape per today

Browett, Darren wrote:

>We are in the process of installing a GIS package (Arc/info) which has an
>oracle component (SDE)
>
>I have to setup tablespaces to handle various types of data, one of the
>tablespaces will be holding 
>Tiff images.  These images range are on average 25 Megs and there will be
>upto 200 images.
>
>It is Oracle 8.1.7.2 on Tru64 Unix
>
>>From this I have a couple of questions.
>
>1. I want to test different extent sizes for performance, what tool should I
>use, tkprof or statspack
>
>2. How big should the datafiles be, 500m, 1Gb etc.
>
>3. As for the extents,  I am leaning towards a locally managed tablespace,
>what kind of extent
>size would work best, 1m, 4m, 10 m etc.  As mentioned in 1 I plan on testing
>this, just looking
>for feedback.
>
>4. And, once these are loaded, is there any advantage to having the
>tablespace set to readonly ?
>
>Thank You
>
>Darren
>
>
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RE: Blobs and Extents

2002-02-22 Thread Gogala, Mladen



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> We are in the process of installing a GIS package (Arc/info) which has an
> oracle component (SDE)

> I have to setup tablespaces to handle various types of data, one of the
> tablespaces will be holding 
> Tiff images.  These images range are on average 25 Megs and there will be
> upto 200 images.

> It is Oracle 8.1.7.2 on Tru64 Unix

> From this I have a couple of questions.

> 1. I want to test different extent sizes for performance, what tool should
I
> use, tkprof or statspack

I prefer so called DBA intuition. The DBA intuition tells me that for
pictures
you want the block to be as big as possible. Thus, - 32k.

> 2. How big should the datafiles be, 500m, 1Gb etc.

2GB datafiles are usually the most reliable ones. 

> 3. As for the extents,  I am leaning towards a locally managed tablespace,
> what kind of extent
> size would work best, 1m, 4m, 10 m etc.  As mentioned in 1 I plan on
testing
> this, just looking
> for feedback.

32M would be my personal preference. That would mean that 99% of your 
pictures would reside in a single extent.

> 4. And, once these are loaded, is there any advantage to having the
> tablespace set to readonly ?

Yes. If the tablespace is read-only, then you don't need the undo protection

for the blocks from that tablespace nor do you need redo protection. In
other
words, the access to those blocks is much more streamlined, shortening the
path 
through the code and thus making it faster.


> Thank You

> Darren

You're welcome.





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Re: data dictionary View about jobs

2002-02-22 Thread Jared . Still

You must be logged in as the owner of the job to remove it.

Jared





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Hi, All,

  Is there any Oracle data dict view to see whether the dbms jobs is on 
the job queue or not. Why I ask this is that I use dbms_job.remove to 
remove one job, later on, I check it using user_jobs, it's still there. 
Thus  issue dbms_job.remove again, this time, this execution seems hung 
there. I log into sys and issue dbms_job.remove,  I got the following 
error

ORA-23421: job number 41 is not a job in the job queue
ORA-06512: at "SYS.DBMS_SYS_ERROR", line 86
ORA-06512: at "SYS.DBMS_IJOB", line 525
ORA-06512: at "SYS.DBMS_JOB", line 166
ORA-06512: at line 2

Could anyone tell me why this happens? or is there any dict view to check 
the job queue? 

Thanks in advance,

Chuan

Oracle DBA


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RE: Hours to support an Oracle database per week, documented some

2002-02-22 Thread Grabowy, Chris

Yeah, pretty much what I was thinking.  I just wanted to ping the list and
see what others would say.

Thanks everyone.

Chris

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Chris - Are you guaranteeing that you can support their system for 6 hours
of work/week? Are you merely providing an estimate of what you guess it will
be and plan to bill based on actual time taken? If it is the former, woe be
unto you. If it is the latter, I would think that you could provide a list
of the tasks you expect to accomplish. Other posts have given you some good
ideas. If the client wants to be bull-headed and budget for less support per
week either 1) they will get lucky and not much will occur for you to do, 2)
they will have to cough up more money, or 3) you will decide to provide some
services pro bono as the lawyers say.
I don't think you will find any official studies because the needs
vary so widely, as others have pointed out.
Dennis Williams
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I have received the following from one of my co-workers at a client site.
Any links, docs, thoughts, gripes, complaints, help would be appreciated.
Thanks.

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I am looking for any documentation out there on Oracle support - like the
amount of effort to support an oracle database.  The client insists that our
revised estimate of 6 hours per week is too high.  Do you know of anything
we can use as an independent data source??? Gardner document something from
Oracle etc  I have looked, but can find nothing.  

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Blobs and Extents

2002-02-22 Thread Browett, Darren

We are in the process of installing a GIS package (Arc/info) which has an
oracle component (SDE)

I have to setup tablespaces to handle various types of data, one of the
tablespaces will be holding 
Tiff images.  These images range are on average 25 Megs and there will be
upto 200 images.

It is Oracle 8.1.7.2 on Tru64 Unix

>From this I have a couple of questions.

1. I want to test different extent sizes for performance, what tool should I
use, tkprof or statspack

2. How big should the datafiles be, 500m, 1Gb etc.

3. As for the extents,  I am leaning towards a locally managed tablespace,
what kind of extent
size would work best, 1m, 4m, 10 m etc.  As mentioned in 1 I plan on testing
this, just looking
for feedback.

4. And, once these are loaded, is there any advantage to having the
tablespace set to readonly ?

Thank You

Darren





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Re: Linux Cluster

2002-02-22 Thread Anjo Kolk

I wish that I had some of that 10 year ago OPS experience ;-)

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> I'm also running it on two Vmware machines running Linux on my laptop.
> I'm currently working on a 'real' cluster, using a mixture of SMP linux
> boxes on a shared SCSI array. Two nodes, no problem. Three nodes, big
> problem. I believe it still to be electrical on the SCSI bus, so watch
> this space. If you have a choice, use FC, preferably switched!
> Oracle version: 9.0.1.2
> Is it fun? I always say - If you really want to learn about how Oracle
> instances work, run OPS. I don't say that anymore, because they changed
> the name to RAC. But that's the only change to the saying. I love it
> though, it's loads of fun, but very much in a masochistic way. 
> In the particular case of Linux, if anyone worked on any big multi-node
> OPS configurations about ten years ago, you have a good idea of what
> it's like now on Linux
> 
> Regards
> 
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Re: replication setup questions

2002-02-22 Thread Peter Barnett

There are several papers on Oracle's web site which
may help.  I am working my way through the contents
now so I cannot give you any hands on experience yet. 
Look for Notes: 117343.1, 50593.1, 1015725.6 plus
others.


--- James Ambursley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am thinking of implementing replication for remote
> sites.  What I have not
> been able to gather from documentation to date is 
>   what are the pre steps required to setup a
> replicated site(master
> destination)
>   what are the steps to bring the replicated site
> online after the
> master definition site has failed
>   is replicating to remote sites a band-width hog
>   are there any issues creating a replicated site
> when the main site
> has RMAN implemented
>   is there a detail step by step document which shows
> how to create a
> replication master site including the 
>   pre-configuration steps
> 
> 
> We are using 8.1.7.3 on solaris 2.6.  Our database
> currently generates
> hundreds of megs of redo because of all the
> transactions 
> occurring.  But the database itself is about 50
> gigs.
> 
> Thanks
> 

> ATTACHMENT part 2 application/ms-tnef
name=winmail.dat



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RE: replication setup questions

2002-02-22 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

James - Given the breadth of your questions, you may want to purchase
"Oracle Distributed Systems" by Charles Dye, an O'Reilly book. It is the
only book I have found on Oracle replication.
Dennis Williams
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There are several papers on Oracle's web site which
may help.  I am working my way through the contents
now so I cannot give you any hands on experience yet. 
Look for Notes: 117343.1, 50593.1, 1015725.6 plus
others.


--- James Ambursley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am thinking of implementing replication for remote
> sites.  What I have not
> been able to gather from documentation to date is 
>   what are the pre steps required to setup a
> replicated site(master
> destination)
>   what are the steps to bring the replicated site
> online after the
> master definition site has failed
>   is replicating to remote sites a band-width hog
>   are there any issues creating a replicated site
> when the main site
> has RMAN implemented
>   is there a detail step by step document which shows
> how to create a
> replication master site including the 
>   pre-configuration steps
> 
> 
> We are using 8.1.7.3 on solaris 2.6.  Our database
> currently generates
> hundreds of megs of redo because of all the
> transactions 
> occurring.  But the database itself is about 50
> gigs.
> 
> Thanks
> 

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RE: Oracle Licensing vs. The Others

2002-02-22 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

Jay - Try this URL:
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/evaluation/compare/pricecomparison.asp
naturally it is entirely biased in Microsoft's favor and I don't see where
it mentions that under Oracle's pricing model, upgrades are included, but
not with Microsoft. Oracle and IBM probably have equivalent documents on
their sites. Hope that helps.
Dennis Williams
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  Our management has started asking questions about how Oracle's licensing
costs compare to other database vendors.  Specifically, DB2 and Sql Server.
I think I am pretty well armed with the "features" arguments, at least for
Oracle vs. Sql Server, but I really have no clue about licensing and support
costs for DB2 and Sql Server.  Can somebody please provide ballpark numbers?
  We will be comparing it to Oracle's latest licensing model
(https://oraclestore.oracle.com/OA_HTML/ibeCZzpHome.jsp?site=OracleStoreUS&r
espid=22372).  Oracle tells me that support costs are currently 22% of the
license per year.  Of course, this is prior to any of the black magic which
they call "discounting."  I would like comparable numbers for the other
vendors products.  If I get a chance, I'll dig around on the web sites, but
I was also curious to know if the other vendors practice "discounting."

Thank you,
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RE: Hours to support an Oracle database per week, documented some

2002-02-22 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

Chris - Are you guaranteeing that you can support their system for 6 hours
of work/week? Are you merely providing an estimate of what you guess it will
be and plan to bill based on actual time taken? If it is the former, woe be
unto you. If it is the latter, I would think that you could provide a list
of the tasks you expect to accomplish. Other posts have given you some good
ideas. If the client wants to be bull-headed and budget for less support per
week either 1) they will get lucky and not much will occur for you to do, 2)
they will have to cough up more money, or 3) you will decide to provide some
services pro bono as the lawyers say.
I don't think you will find any official studies because the needs
vary so widely, as others have pointed out.
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somewher



I have received the following from one of my co-workers at a client site.
Any links, docs, thoughts, gripes, complaints, help would be appreciated.
Thanks.

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Re: How to import PDF files into Oracle database

2002-02-22 Thread Connor McDonald

Check out DBMS_LOB.LOADFROMFILE to load them into
lob's in the db.  Similarly, you can use dbms_lob.read
and htp.prn to spit it out to a web page.

hth
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RE: Linux Cluster

2002-02-22 Thread James Morle

I'm also running it on two Vmware machines running Linux on my laptop.
I'm currently working on a 'real' cluster, using a mixture of SMP linux
boxes on a shared SCSI array. Two nodes, no problem. Three nodes, big
problem. I believe it still to be electrical on the SCSI bus, so watch
this space. If you have a choice, use FC, preferably switched!
Oracle version: 9.0.1.2
Is it fun? I always say - If you really want to learn about how Oracle
instances work, run OPS. I don't say that anymore, because they changed
the name to RAC. But that's the only change to the saying. I love it
though, it's loads of fun, but very much in a masochistic way. 
In the particular case of Linux, if anyone worked on any big multi-node
OPS configurations about ten years ago, you have a good idea of what
it's like now on Linux

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RE: Oracle Licensing vs. The Others

2002-02-22 Thread Farnsworth, Dave

>-This probably pales when compared to mainframe maintenance fees.

And don't forget that mainframes also "rent" the OS for a hefty fee!!

Dave

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Re the 22% annual support cost.  This is apparently not unusually high.

We were quote a 22% for an application last week.  This probably 
pales when compared to mainframe maintenance fees.

Jared

On Friday 22 February 2002 06:03, Jay Hostetter wrote:
>   Our management has started asking questions about how Oracle's licensing
> costs compare to other database vendors.  Specifically, DB2 and Sql Server.
>  I think I am pretty well armed with the "features" arguments, at least for
> Oracle vs. Sql Server, but I really have no clue about licensing and
> support costs for DB2 and Sql Server.  Can somebody please provide ballpark
> numbers? We will be comparing it to Oracle's latest licensing model
> (https://oraclestore.oracle.com/OA_HTML/ibeCZzpHome.jsp?site=OracleStoreUS&;
>respid=22372).  Oracle tells me that support costs are currently 22% of the
> license per year.  Of course, this is prior to any of the black magic which
> they call "discounting."  I would like comparable numbers for the other
> vendors products.  If I get a chance, I'll dig around on the web sites, but
> I was also curious to know if the other vendors practice "discounting."
>
> Thank you,
> Jay
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RE: Hours to support an Oracle database per week, documented some

2002-02-22 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

I'd say if the client can give me the expected code errors, user errors,
number of time someone will delete/drop/truncate a table, expected number of
ora 600/7445 errors, I can pretty much give a estimate of db support time.
Oh ... and did I mention failed backups, space shortage, SA availability,
imports/exports etc?

Couple of days ago we spent about 5 hours relocating some tables from one
data file to another ONLINE because system couldn't be taken down, the
expected time was couple of hours, lest we knew that couple of tables had
CLOBS, and a small procedure was dependent on that table. This procedure is
used by EVERY piece of code in the database, so imagine what a nightmare it
was for us. This is even when we were doing on-line moving on a 9012 db.

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Re: Oracle Licensing vs. The Others

2002-02-22 Thread Jared Still


Re the 22% annual support cost.  This is apparently not unusually high.

We were quote a 22% for an application last week.  This probably 
pales when compared to mainframe maintenance fees.

Jared

On Friday 22 February 2002 06:03, Jay Hostetter wrote:
>   Our management has started asking questions about how Oracle's licensing
> costs compare to other database vendors.  Specifically, DB2 and Sql Server.
>  I think I am pretty well armed with the "features" arguments, at least for
> Oracle vs. Sql Server, but I really have no clue about licensing and
> support costs for DB2 and Sql Server.  Can somebody please provide ballpark
> numbers? We will be comparing it to Oracle's latest licensing model
> (https://oraclestore.oracle.com/OA_HTML/ibeCZzpHome.jsp?site=OracleStoreUS&;
>respid=22372).  Oracle tells me that support costs are currently 22% of the
> license per year.  Of course, this is prior to any of the black magic which
> they call "discounting."  I would like comparable numbers for the other
> vendors products.  If I get a chance, I'll dig around on the web sites, but
> I was also curious to know if the other vendors practice "discounting."
>
> Thank you,
> Jay
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RE: 8i and Veritas NetBackup

2002-02-22 Thread Jim Hawkins

Rick,

This is what our corporation uses as a standard.  We are not having any of the 
problems you describe, however, we are on HP, AIX, Tru64, and NT, not Solaris.

Jim

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>8i. It works fine with our 8 dbs, but when we try to backup the 8i ones, the control 
>panel says the backup has started, but it doesn't finish and usually has a dead rman 
>process on the db.
>
>We've working with Veritas support, but it's been 2 weeks and no answer.
>
>The dbs are 8.1.7.3 on Solaris 7 and we did patch the oracle executables.
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How to import PDF files into Oracle database

2002-02-22 Thread Nguyen, David M

Is is possible to store PDF files in oracle database to allow user accesses
the files, open it and read it?  If so, please advise how.  I am using
oracle8i with DBI running on Solaris8.

Thanks,
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Re: Hours to support an Oracle database per week, documented somewher

2002-02-22 Thread Joe Raube

Wow, what an open question

How many instances?
How big of a database?
How many users?
Development or production?
What type of application?
Amount of change management required?
Unix or Windows?

I could go on and on.

-Joe

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> Thanks.
> 
> --
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> amount of effort to support an oracle database.  The client insists that our
> revised estimate of 6 hours per week is too high.  Do you know of anything
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RE: RMAN Question

2002-02-22 Thread Mandal, Ashoke

Thanks to all of you, who provided your input on this issue. I will test it
and I will get in touch with you if I have any problem.

Ashoke

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The following command will backup you archivelogs and then delete them if
the backup is successful.

(archivelog all
 delete input);

HTH,
Ruth
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> Ashoke
> If I understand you correctly, you are using RMAN to backup to disk,
> rather than to a media manager. You are asking whether you can archive
these
> in RMAN, plus leave them on disk so they are readily available for
recovery.
>
> I have used this configuration, and I have found that RMAN leaves
> the archive logs on disk after it has backed them up. Also, I believe but
> have not tested this, that in case of a recovery, RMAN first looks to the
> original unarchived disk location for the archive logs and if it can't
find
> them there, it will retrieve them from its backup location (disk file or
> tape if you are using a media manager), and put them where they should be,
> then continue the recovery.
> After thinking about this, I decided that using RMAN to backup the
> archive logs wasn't buying me anything. Just making my setup more
> complicated. If I was backing up to a media manager, then having RMAN back
> up the archive logs would be great because it would be moving them to
tape.
> As it is, RMAN isn't compressing them before moving them to disk. My
regular
> nightly tape backup will give me a safety copy on tape. If I feel I need a
> disk copy, I will just compress the files to another location and end up
> with something significantly smaller. If I have overlooked something in my
> logic, please point that out to me because I am just beginning to learn
RMAN
> and am frequently interrupted by other DBA duties, so learning is going
very
> slowly.
> Dennis Williams
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> Greetings,
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> We are at Oracle 8.1.7 on Sun Solaris 7.
>
> Can we backup all the archive logs at any point of time but not deleting
all
> these archive logs as we like to keep the archive logs for 2
days(SYSDATE-1)
> in the disk so that we don't need to restore the archive logs from rman
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RE: sql question

2002-02-22 Thread Paul . Parker

How about :

select num
from NUMBERS, 
   ( select begin,  end from RANGE)
where num between begin and end;

Paul


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You are right that the range aren't necessarily contigous.
I'd probably have to write it in PL/SQL, I just want to see
if one can do this with SQL.

Thanks.

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>
>Rich,
>
>Are you sure that that is what you want ?
>Suppose your range values were something like :
>  begin end
>  1 9
>  1519
>  2329
>ie, the RANGE table shows that 10-14 and 20-22 are invalid ("not allowed")
>values.
>
>Your problem statement and the SQL that Paul provides for the problem
>statement
>would return numbers like 10, 11, 20,21 which are, actually, invalid.
>
>You'd have to write a cursor to loop through the valid ranges  ??
>
>Hemant K Chitale
>Principal DBA
>Chartered Semiconductor Manufacturing Ltd
>
>
>Paul Baumgartel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   22/02/2002 12:43 PM
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>
>
>
>
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>To use your example column names:
>
>select num from numbers where num between
>(select min(begin) from range) and (select max(end) from range);
>
>
>--- oracle dba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have a SQL question.  Suppose I have a table called RANGE looks
> > like
> > this:
> >
> > begin end
> > 1 9
> > 1019
> > 2029
> >
> > Then I have a table NUMBERS that's full of bunch of numbers like
> > this:
> >
> > num
> > 1
> > 2
> > 3
> > 4
> > ...
> > 98
> > 99
> > 100
> >
> > I want to write a SQL that returns the number that are within
> > the ranges defined in the RANGE table.  So number 1 through 29
> > should be returned.
> >
> > Can someone help me with this?  Thanks.
> >
> > Rich
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Hours to support an Oracle database per week, documented somewher

2002-02-22 Thread Grabowy, Chris


I have received the following from one of my co-workers at a client site.
Any links, docs, thoughts, gripes, complaints, help would be appreciated.
Thanks.

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Oracle etc  I have looked, but can find nothing.  

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Re: Linux Cluster

2002-02-22 Thread Bjørn Engsig

On Friday 22 February 2002 16:03, "Henrik Ekenberg wrote:

> Who is your configuration ?

Two nodes running in VMWare on an HP laptop
> 2- Which Linux version ?
RH 7.1 + logical volume manager
> 3- Which Oracle version ?
9.0.1.2.0
> 4- Is is fun ?
That depends.

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RE: Oracle8i - Oracle9i issue??????

2002-02-22 Thread Pardee, Roy E

C# is ms'
we-can't-run-away-with-the-java-standard-so-here's-our-own-'c-like'-language
language for .Net.  There's a good bit of foofaraw over whether or not it is
better/faster than/will kill java etc. in the dev community.  Not to be
confused with the latest version of visual C++ (which is mostly the same as
old C++, but includes extensions for coding against the .net virtual
machine) or J#, which is supposedly yet still more Java-like than C#.
Interested readers can get the party line at

http://www.msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/0900/csharp/csharp.asp.

Cheers,

-Roy

Roy Pardee
Programmer/Analyst
SWFPAC Lockheed Martin IT
Extension 8487 

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Yeah they refer to it as C "Sharp" as in the music # symbol. 
It is Microsoft's C.Net - I think. 

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C# ? 
Hemant K Chitale 
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Hello Guru's 


I wonder if any of you have had this problem, we have a external company 
developing a software package in C#. 
On their Oracle9i test system, the software works fine, however once 
brought accross to our systems, 
which is an Oracle8i ( 817) system the software gives a (ORA - 00933 SQL 
command not properly ended) error, but funny enough only on the one window. 
I am told by them that they do straight select from a table, saving the 
returned columns in variables etc. 


The only difference is they don't have any semi-colons (;) at the end of 
the their queries. But catch 22 it works on the other screens(windows). 


Hope you folks can help 
TIA 
Denham 


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RE: sql question

2002-02-22 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

Rich,

how about :

SELECT col1 FROM TEST
  WHERE EXISTS(SELECT 1 FROM RANGE
WHERE col1 BETWEEN BEGIN AND END)

The above is where the TEST table contains the list of numbers.
I assume that, even though your RANGE table has begin/end entries of 1,9
that 1 and 9 are valid.  If they are not valid, you could either change the
values to be 2,8 or change the where clause to say   WHERE col1 > BEGIN and
col1 < END.

Either way works, no?

Hope this helps

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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You are right that the range aren't necessarily contigous.
I'd probably have to write it in PL/SQL, I just want to see
if one can do this with SQL.

Thanks.

>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 21:33:20 -0800
>
>Rich,
>
>Are you sure that that is what you want ?
>Suppose your range values were something like :
>  begin end
>  1 9
>  1519
>  2329
>ie, the RANGE table shows that 10-14 and 20-22 are invalid ("not allowed")
>values.
>
>Your problem statement and the SQL that Paul provides for the problem
>statement
>would return numbers like 10, 11, 20,21 which are, actually, invalid.
>
>You'd have to write a cursor to loop through the valid ranges  ??
>
>Hemant K Chitale
>Principal DBA
>Chartered Semiconductor Manufacturing Ltd
>
>
>Paul Baumgartel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   22/02/2002 12:43 PM
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>To use your example column names:
>
>select num from numbers where num between
>(select min(begin) from range) and (select max(end) from range);
>
>
>--- oracle dba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have a SQL question.  Suppose I have a table called RANGE looks
> > like
> > this:
> >
> > begin end
> > 1 9
> > 1019
> > 2029
> >
> > Then I have a table NUMBERS that's full of bunch of numbers like
> > this:
> >
> > num
> > 1
> > 2
> > 3
> > 4
> > ...
> > 98
> > 99
> > 100
> >
> > I want to write a SQL that returns the number that are within
> > the ranges defined in the RANGE table.  So number 1 through 29
> > should be returned.
> >
> > Can someone help me with this?  Thanks.
> >
> > Rich
> >
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RE: Dropping users from Oracle 9i seed database.

2002-02-22 Thread Gogala, Mladen
Title: Dropping users from Oracle 9i seed database.



You 
can drop the following users:
scott (demo)
ctxsys (context)
wksys (workflow)
mdsys (Oracle*Media)
 
Hopefully, this font is big enough. Yours was a wee bit 
too small.

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 
  5:18 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  Dropping users from Oracle 9i seed database.
  Hi, Using Oracle 
  Configuration Manager a handful of users are created. Which of these users can 
  be safely dropped without affecting Oracle health.
  List of users. 
  AURORA$JIS$UTILITY$ 
  CTXSYS  
  HR  
  LBACSYS 
  MDSYS   
  OE  
  OLAPSYS 
  ORDSYS  
  OSE$HTTP$ADMIN  
  OUTLN   
  PM  
  QS  
  QS_CBADM    
  QS_CS   
  QS_ES   
  QS_OS   
  QS_WS   
  SCOTT   
  SH  
  WKSYS   
  
  TIA 
  Yuval. 



Re: sql question

2002-02-22 Thread oracle dba

You are right that the range aren't necessarily contigous.
I'd probably have to write it in PL/SQL, I just want to see
if one can do this with SQL.

Thanks.

>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>Rich,
>
>Are you sure that that is what you want ?
>Suppose your range values were something like :
>  begin end
>  1 9
>  1519
>  2329
>ie, the RANGE table shows that 10-14 and 20-22 are invalid ("not allowed")
>values.
>
>Your problem statement and the SQL that Paul provides for the problem
>statement
>would return numbers like 10, 11, 20,21 which are, actually, invalid.
>
>You'd have to write a cursor to loop through the valid ranges  ??
>
>Hemant K Chitale
>Principal DBA
>Chartered Semiconductor Manufacturing Ltd
>
>
>Paul Baumgartel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   22/02/2002 12:43 PM
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>To use your example column names:
>
>select num from numbers where num between
>(select min(begin) from range) and (select max(end) from range);
>
>
>--- oracle dba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have a SQL question.  Suppose I have a table called RANGE looks
> > like
> > this:
> >
> > begin end
> > 1 9
> > 1019
> > 2029
> >
> > Then I have a table NUMBERS that's full of bunch of numbers like
> > this:
> >
> > num
> > 1
> > 2
> > 3
> > 4
> > ...
> > 98
> > 99
> > 100
> >
> > I want to write a SQL that returns the number that are within
> > the ranges defined in the RANGE table.  So number 1 through 29
> > should be returned.
> >
> > Can someone help me with this?  Thanks.
> >
> > Rich
> >
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RE: 8i and Veritas NetBackup

2002-02-22 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: 8i and Veritas NetBackup





The folloiwng is a good post from Samir which I kept. It seems to cover your environment well. Hope it helps John


Hi,


In order for RMAN to work with a third party backup product the third party
vendor writes an interface to an Oracle supplied API and supplies this in
the form of a library.
Oracle supplies a default copy of the library as $ORACLE_HOME/lib/libobk.so
which has the RMAN default functionality of writing to disk only.
Installation of an RMAN media management product logically replaces this
library. How this logical replacement is done depends on several Oracle
documents and one netbackup document, most of which contradict each other.
As long as it is clear how the library is logically presented to Oracle it
doesn't matter how it is done.
The library that Oracle currently uses can be established by executing:
ldd $ORACLE_HOME/bin/oracle
This will list the libraries linked to the Oracle executable, specifically
libobk.so.
The Veritas supplied file is called libobk.so.1. Oracle thinks it is called
libobk.so, which it looks for in LD_LIBRARY_PATH. Therefore a soft link is
needed from libobk.so somewhere in LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the Netbackup supplied
libobk.so.1. This can be done with:
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$ORACLE_HOME/lib:
and then either:
ln -s /opt/openv/netbackup/bin/libobk.so.1 $ORACLE_HOME/lib/libobk.so
or:
cp /opt/openv/netbackup/bin/libobk.so.1 $ORACLE_HOME/lib/libobk.so.1
ln -s $ORACLE_HOME/lib/libobk.so.1 $ORACLE_HOME/lib/libobk.so
Other combinations of these links are obviously possible, but the important
thing is to be consistent. With several ORACLE_HOME's the former is
preferable, the latter becomes more relevant if a version dependency had
been discovered between RMAN and Netbackup such that each ORACLE_HOME needed
a different copy of the library.
Additionally, Oracle 8.0.5 statically links the library into the Oracle
executable, so once the executable is relinked it doesn't matter what
happens to the original library file. At 8.1.6 however the library is
THEORETICALLY dynamically linked and so always depends on finding a copy on
LD_LIBRARY_PATH. A bug in 8.1.6 (1252142) means this dynamic linking does
not work and the library still has to be statically linked to the Oracle
executable. The bug is fixed at 8.1.7.


Hope this helps.




Hi Listers,


I have a question regarding using 8i RMAN with Netbackup 3.4.
I remember on 8i one no longer needs to relink the oracle executable
when intergrate with a 3rd party backup software.  All I have to
do it change the symbolic link $ORACLE_HOME/lib/libobk.so to point
to the media management library.


Now from the Netbackup 3.4 for Oracle manual, it says on Solaris
for 8.1.6, you need to relink the oracle executable by doing:


make -f ins_rdbms.mk ioracle LLIBOBK=-lobk


So the question is should I relink or not?


Thanks for your feedback.


Rich



Nice answer Samir. As an additional note... after linking I've used the 
sbttest utility from Oracle to verify a working installation. (We're using
Netbackup with Linux and have encountered problems which Veritas is 
working on.)


The sbttest program is nice but for complete backup installation testing I
believe in performing test recoveries. I've created small test databases 
on production servers and have scripted several recovery scenarios. For our 
current situation it turns out that we can get a successful backup but 
restores are a problem. Since backups aren't any good if you can't restore 
the backup is suspect. We can restore files from tape to disk but finishing 
the recovery requires getting out of RMAN and recovering from the SQL 
prompt. We can also restore from RMAN as long as we don't have more than 2 
commands in the run { commands... } syntax. Of course this could get quite 
tedious in a multiple datafile restore scenario so we're insisting that 
Veritas fix the communication problems between RMAN, Netbackup and our tape
robot.


So I guess the object lesson from all this is that, regardless of "apparent"


linking success, it pays to be anal and thorough when it comes to validating


your backup implementation and the best way to do this is to perform some
actual recoveries.


Hi Listers,


I have a question regarding using 8i RMAN with Netbackup 3.4.
I remember on 8i one no longer needs to relink the oracle executable
when intergrate with a 3rd party backup software.  All I have to
do it change the symbolic link $ORACLE_HOME/lib/libobk.so to point
to the media management library.


Now from the Netbackup 3.4 for Oracle manual, it says on Solaris
for 8.1.6, you need to relink the oracle executable by doing:


make -f ins_rdbms.mk ioracle LLIBOBK=-lobk


So the question is should I relink or not?


Thanks for your feedback.


Rich



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Subject: 8i and Veritas NetBackup



Is anyone using this combinat

RE: Problem with Rollback segment getting locked

2002-02-22 Thread Gogala, Mladen



Anjo, 
I usually advise in the strongest possible words against setting 

"optimal". May logic is that if rollback segment 
extends occasionally then
we 
should leave the space allocated to a) prevent the dynamic disk 
space
management and b) to make room for large queries. The 
space will be
consumed anyhow. 
What's 
your take on the "optimal" parameter?

  -Original Message-From: Anjo Kolk 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 8:53 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: 
  Problem with Rollback segment getting locked  
  What lock ? And did you specify optimal ? 
  Viral Amin wrote: 
    
Hi All, 
   I have about 12 Rollback 
segmennts in my database & 25 concurrent users logged in. I am 
continuously facing problems of oracle just keep locking couple of Rollback 
segments. other people have to wait till Oracle releses the locks on this 
rollback segments. 
My Query is..Why Oracle is just using the 
few rollback segments from the avilable 12 & then others have to wait 
till the locks on the rollback segments are released. 
Pls help..This is 
URGENT!! 
Regards, 
Viral 
Amin 


replication setup questions

2002-02-22 Thread James Ambursley

I am thinking of implementing replication for remote sites.  What I have not
been able to gather from documentation to date is 
what are the pre steps required to setup a replicated site(master
destination)
what are the steps to bring the replicated site online after the
master definition site has failed
is replicating to remote sites a band-width hog
are there any issues creating a replicated site when the main site
has RMAN implemented
is there a detail step by step document which shows how to create a
replication master site including the 
pre-configuration steps


We are using 8.1.7.3 on solaris 2.6.  Our database currently generates
hundreds of megs of redo because of all the transactions 
occurring.  But the database itself is about 50 gigs.

Thanks

<>

Linux Cluster

2002-02-22 Thread Henrik Ekenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi from the Swow storm from Sweden,

We wants to try to run Oracle on a Linux Cluster.
Is someone using Oracle on a Linux Cluster ?

Who is your configuration ?
1- (DELL,HP,Compaq,..)
2- Which Linux version ?
3- Which Oracle version ?
4- Is is fun ?

Best Regards,
HEnrik

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RE: data dictionary View about jobs

2002-02-22 Thread Ramon E. Estevez

Hi Chuan,

The views dba_jobs, user_jobs show information about the jobs.

It will be removed after the next execution.

Once happen to me and the job had to broke it before remove it.

The experts of the list can show more light about the subject.

Luck,

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Hi, All,

  Is there any Oracle data dict view to see whether the dbms jobs is on the
job queue or not. Why I ask this is that I use dbms_job.remove to remove one
job, later on, I check it using user_jobs, it's still there. Thus  issue
dbms_job.remove again, this time, this execution seems hung there. I log
into sys and issue dbms_job.remove,  I got the following error

ORA-23421: job number 41 is not a job in the job queue
ORA-06512: at "SYS.DBMS_SYS_ERROR", line 86
ORA-06512: at "SYS.DBMS_IJOB", line 525
ORA-06512: at "SYS.DBMS_JOB", line 166
ORA-06512: at line 2

Could anyone tell me why this happens? or is there any dict view to check
the job queue?

Thanks in advance,

Chuan

Oracle DBA


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8i and Veritas NetBackup

2002-02-22 Thread rick

Is anyone using this combination? We're having problems getting backups to work with 
8i. It works fine with our 8 dbs, but when we try to backup the 8i ones, the control 
panel says the backup has started, but it doesn't finish and usually has a dead rman 
process on the db.

We've working with Veritas support, but it's been 2 weeks and no answer.

The dbs are 8.1.7.3 on Solaris 7 and we did patch the oracle executables.

Thank you for any help.


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[Q] how to setup sql*net trace on client side?

2002-02-22 Thread dist cash

I tried to setup SQl*NET (ORACLE 8/8i)trace on client side and put

   trace_level_server=10

on sqlnet.ora.  I did NOT see log file
($ORACLE_HOME/network/log) generate.


Does anyone know why?


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Re: RMAN Question

2002-02-22 Thread Ruth Gramolini

The following command will backup you archivelogs and then delete them if
the backup is successful.

(archivelog all
 delete input);

HTH,
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> Ashoke
> If I understand you correctly, you are using RMAN to backup to disk,
> rather than to a media manager. You are asking whether you can archive
these
> in RMAN, plus leave them on disk so they are readily available for
recovery.
>
> I have used this configuration, and I have found that RMAN leaves
> the archive logs on disk after it has backed them up. Also, I believe but
> have not tested this, that in case of a recovery, RMAN first looks to the
> original unarchived disk location for the archive logs and if it can't
find
> them there, it will retrieve them from its backup location (disk file or
> tape if you are using a media manager), and put them where they should be,
> then continue the recovery.
> After thinking about this, I decided that using RMAN to backup the
> archive logs wasn't buying me anything. Just making my setup more
> complicated. If I was backing up to a media manager, then having RMAN back
> up the archive logs would be great because it would be moving them to
tape.
> As it is, RMAN isn't compressing them before moving them to disk. My
regular
> nightly tape backup will give me a safety copy on tape. If I feel I need a
> disk copy, I will just compress the files to another location and end up
> with something significantly smaller. If I have overlooked something in my
> logic, please point that out to me because I am just beginning to learn
RMAN
> and am frequently interrupted by other DBA duties, so learning is going
very
> slowly.
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> Greetings,
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> We are at Oracle 8.1.7 on Sun Solaris 7.
>
> Can we backup all the archive logs at any point of time but not deleting
all
> these archive logs as we like to keep the archive logs for 2
days(SYSDATE-1)
> in the disk so that we don't need to restore the archive logs from rman
> backup in case of some recovery up to point within last 2 days.
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Oracle Licensing vs. The Others

2002-02-22 Thread Jay Hostetter

  Our management has started asking questions about how Oracle's licensing costs 
compare to other database vendors.  Specifically, DB2 and Sql Server.  I think I am 
pretty well armed with the "features" arguments, at least for Oracle vs. Sql Server, 
but I really have no clue about licensing and support costs for DB2 and Sql Server.  
Can somebody please provide ballpark numbers?
  We will be comparing it to Oracle's latest licensing model 
(https://oraclestore.oracle.com/OA_HTML/ibeCZzpHome.jsp?site=OracleStoreUS&respid=22372).
  Oracle tells me that support costs are currently 22% of the license per year.  Of 
course, this is prior to any of the black magic which they call "discounting."  I 
would like comparable numbers for the other vendors products.  If I get a chance, I'll 
dig around on the web sites, but I was also curious to know if the other vendors 
practice "discounting."

Thank you,
Jay

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Sorry RE: Woopeee and TWO ORA-600's!

2002-02-22 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

sorry ... I am trying too fast ... the error parameter was different it
wasn't 26599 ... I am heading for a coffee.

Raj
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Couple of days ago I have a ORA-600 [26599], it was being signaled during
our periodic recompilation cron job. It turned out to be that a clever
duheveloper had a hard new line character in an object name. Once we took it
out, the error went away. This happened in 9012.

Raj
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Re: Problem with Rollback segment getting locked

2002-02-22 Thread Anjo Kolk


 
What lock ? And did you specify optimal ?
Viral Amin wrote:
 
Hi All,
   I have about 12 Rollback
segmennts in my database & 25 concurrent users logged in. I am continuously
facing problems of oracle just keep locking couple of Rollback segments.
other people have to wait till Oracle releses the locks on this rollback
segments.
My Query is..Why Oracle is just using
the few rollback segments from the avilable 12 & then others have to
wait till the locks on the rollback segments are released.
Pls help..This is URGENT!!
Regards,
Viral
Amin




Recall: Woopeee and TWO ORA-600's!

2002-02-22 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

Jamadagni, Rajendra would like to recall the message, "Woopeee and TWO
ORA-600's!".



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RE: Woopeee and TWO ORA-600's!

2002-02-22 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

Couple of days ago I have a ORA-600 [26599], it was being signaled during
our periodic recompilation cron job. It turned out to be that a clever
duheveloper had a hard new line character in an object name. Once we took it
out, the error went away. This happened in 9012.

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RE: Problem with Rollback segment getting locked

2002-02-22 Thread Babich , Sergey
Title: Problem with Rollback segment getting locked









Hi, Viral,

Are these RB segments public?

Regards,

Sergey

 

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From: Viral Amin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002
7:29 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
ORACLE-L
Subject: Problem with Rollback
segment getting locked

 

Hi
All, 

  
I have about 12 Rollback segmennts in my database & 25 concurrent users
logged in. I am continuously facing problems of oracle just keep locking couple
of Rollback segments. other people have to wait till Oracle releses the locks
on this rollback segments.

My
Query is..Why Oracle is just using the few rollback segments from the avilable
12 & then others have to wait till the locks on the rollback segments are
released.

Pls
help..This is URGENT!!


Regards, 

Viral Amin

 








RE: Woopeee and TWO ORA-600's!

2002-02-22 Thread Connor McDonald

9i starts to use some of the java stuff all by itself
which possibly explains the error.  For example, there
is now a trigger on every create-table to handle the
cdc publish/subscribe features.  This of course means
you typically to allocate something to the java pool
(if you have installed java)

Take a look at rmjvm (as opposed to jvmrm)

hth
connor

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> 
> I have another question following this:
> 
> I am also getting the following error on startup:
> 
> Fri Feb 22 09:33:04 2002
> Errors in file
> C:\oracle\admin\ORCL\udump\ORA03028.TRC:
> ORA-04031: unable to allocate 4032 bytes of shared
> memory ("shared
> pool","unknown object","joxs heap
> init","ioc_allocate_pal")
> 
> Fri Feb 22 09:33:10 2002
> Errors in file
> C:\oracle\admin\ORCL\udump\ORA03028.TRC:
> ORA-00604: error occurred at recursive SQL level 1
> ORA-04031: unable to allocate 4032 bytes of shared
> memory ("shared
> pool","unknown object","joxs heap
> init","ioc_allocate_pal")
> ORA-06512: at "SYS.DBMS_JAVA", line 216
> ORA-06512: at line 2
> 
> Completed: alter database open
> 
> This is because I set the java_pool to 0 in my init
> file (we don't use
> anything java related against our databases). Does
> anybody know how to
> disable or de-install java from the database? I've
> taken a look at the
> jvmrm.sql in RDBMS/Admin:
> 
> -- Remove some portion of the Java related data
> dictionary objects
> 
> -- This script must be run as a subscript of a
> script which sets the
> -- variable jvmrmaction.
> -- Possible values are
> --  FULL_REMOVAL:remove all java related
> objects
> 
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> 
> Cheers
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> 
> Mark
> The ora600 lookup  tool on Metalink states that
> there is no description for
> this code
> John
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> Hi Ladies and Gents,
> I installed 9.0.1 on to my Win2K machine yesterday,
> and whilst installing an
> un-named monitoring tool against it this morning,
> the instance crashed with
> a bunch of ORA-600's in the alert log. Below are the
> two that appeared,
> though the first turned up about 10 times
> concurrently:
> Fri Feb 22 09:22:28 2002
> Errors in file
> C:\oracle\admin\ORCL\udump\ORA01668.TRC:
> ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [26599],
> [1], [190], [], [], [],
> [], []
> Fri Feb 22 09:22:34 2002
> Errors in file
> C:\oracle\admin\ORCL\udump\ORA01668.TRC:
> ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [150],
> [], [], [], [], [], [], []
> Anyone ever seen these before? I'm not going to call
> support as this is only
> a sandbox database, so please don't tell me to call
> them or log a tar.. I
> have enough to do today already! :(
> Any feedback on these is, however, much appreciated!
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RE: Problem with Rollback segment getting locked

2002-02-22 Thread Arun Chakrapani
Title: Problem with Rollback segment getting locked



I 
might not be right but  why dont u try reducing the number of transaction per 
rollback segment and see

  -Original Message-From: Viral Amin 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 
  7:29 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  Problem with Rollback segment getting locked
  Hi All, 
     I have about 12 Rollback segmennts in 
  my database & 25 concurrent users logged in. I am continuously facing 
  problems of oracle just keep locking couple of Rollback segments. other people 
  have to wait till Oracle releses the locks on this rollback 
  segments.
  My Query is..Why Oracle is just using the few 
  rollback segments from the avilable 12 & then others have to wait till the 
  locks on the rollback segments are released.
  Pls help..This is URGENT!! 
  Regards, 
  Viral Amin 
   


RE: Woopeee and TWO ORA-600's!

2002-02-22 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

Mark,

I've had success running removing Java by running the following package:

exec sys.rmjvm(true);

The package sould have been installed when Java was installed.

Hope this helps.

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


-Original Message-
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 6:08 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Ahh well!

I have another question following this:

I am also getting the following error on startup:

Fri Feb 22 09:33:04 2002
Errors in file C:\oracle\admin\ORCL\udump\ORA03028.TRC:
ORA-04031: unable to allocate 4032 bytes of shared memory ("shared
pool","unknown object","joxs heap init","ioc_allocate_pal")

Fri Feb 22 09:33:10 2002
Errors in file C:\oracle\admin\ORCL\udump\ORA03028.TRC:
ORA-00604: error occurred at recursive SQL level 1
ORA-04031: unable to allocate 4032 bytes of shared memory ("shared
pool","unknown object","joxs heap init","ioc_allocate_pal")
ORA-06512: at "SYS.DBMS_JAVA", line 216
ORA-06512: at line 2

Completed: alter database open

This is because I set the java_pool to 0 in my init file (we don't use
anything java related against our databases). Does anybody know how to
disable or de-install java from the database? I've taken a look at the
jvmrm.sql in RDBMS/Admin:

-- Remove some portion of the Java related data dictionary objects

-- This script must be run as a subscript of a script which sets the
-- variable jvmrmaction.
-- Possible values are
--  FULL_REMOVAL:remove all java related objects

But can't find anything of a script that will call this? Anyone have any
ideas?

Cheers

Mark (Why do I bother?) Leith

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Sent: 22 February 2002 10:18
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Mark
The ora600 lookup  tool on Metalink states that there is no description for
this code
John
-Original Message-
Sent: 22 February 2002 09:34
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hi Ladies and Gents,
I installed 9.0.1 on to my Win2K machine yesterday, and whilst installing an
un-named monitoring tool against it this morning, the instance crashed with
a bunch of ORA-600's in the alert log. Below are the two that appeared,
though the first turned up about 10 times concurrently:
Fri Feb 22 09:22:28 2002
Errors in file C:\oracle\admin\ORCL\udump\ORA01668.TRC:
ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [26599], [1], [190], [], [], [],
[], []
Fri Feb 22 09:22:34 2002
Errors in file C:\oracle\admin\ORCL\udump\ORA01668.TRC:
ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [150], [], [], [], [], [], [], []
Anyone ever seen these before? I'm not going to call support as this is only
a sandbox database, so please don't tell me to call them or log a tar.. I
have enough to do today already! :(
Any feedback on these is, however, much appreciated!
Thanks
Mark
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RE: Woopeee and TWO ORA-600's!

2002-02-22 Thread Mark Leith
Title: RE: Woopeee and TWO ORA-600's!



Thanks 
John, worked like a charm! Thanks for the pointer too Tom, but thanks to 
John it's all sorted..
 
Cheers!
 
Mark

  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hallas JohnSent: 22 
  February 2002 12:43To: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Woopeee and TWO 
ORA-600's!
  Mark, Here are a couple of notes I 
  saved on the subject 
  John 
  rmjvm.sql doesnot remove all the components properly. If your 
  resources sizes are ok, then try following.   If for any reason the installation fails 
  then $ORACLE_HOME/javavm/install/rmjvm.sql has to be run. Unfortunately it 
  does not remove all the components. Following workaround has to be used to get 
  over the bugs.
  1. Restart the database. 
  2. Start a different session other 
  than the one that started the database. 
  3. Run initjvmaux.sql 
  4. Run rmjvm.sql 
  5. Run following SQL queries, LOG on 
  as SYS. 
  --The minimum action to remove JIS trigger is running the 
  following sql. 
  drop trigger JIS$ROLE_TRIGGER$; 
  delete from ducs$ where owner='SYS' and 
  pack='JIS$INTERCEPTOR$' and proc='USER_DROPPED'; 
  delete from aurora$startup$classes$ where 
  classname='oracle.aurora.mts.http.admin.RegisterService'; 
  delete from aurora$dyn$reg; 
  . 
  Are you sure its hanging.  Documents have said it can 
  take up to an hour and its that statement that tends 
  to take the longest.  I have seen quite the variation in time depending 
  on the system I am on. -Original Message- From: Saravana Kumar 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 11:25 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: initjvm.sql 
  Hi friends,    
  I have problem during execution of initjvm.sql   The step's which i have followed. 
    1)Increased system tablespace 
  200 mb 2)increased the shared pool size 50mb 
  3)increased the java  pool size to 50mb 4)ran rmjvm.sql 5)initjvm.sql   While runnig initjvm.sql the script 
  hangs while i get the statement create or replace java 
  system;   
  -Original Message- From: Mark 
  Leith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: 22 February 2002 11:08 To: 
  Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: 
  Woopeee and TWO ORA-600's! 
  Ahh well! 
  I have another question following this: 
  I am also getting the following error on startup: 
  Fri Feb 22 09:33:04 2002 Errors in 
  file C:\oracle\admin\ORCL\udump\ORA03028.TRC: ORA-04031: unable to allocate 4032 bytes of shared memory 
  ("shared pool","unknown object","joxs heap 
  init","ioc_allocate_pal") 
  Fri Feb 22 09:33:10 2002 Errors in 
  file C:\oracle\admin\ORCL\udump\ORA03028.TRC: ORA-00604: error occurred at recursive SQL level 1 ORA-04031: unable to allocate 4032 bytes of shared memory 
  ("shared pool","unknown object","joxs heap 
  init","ioc_allocate_pal") ORA-06512: at 
  "SYS.DBMS_JAVA", line 216 ORA-06512: at line 2 
  
  Completed: alter database open 
  This is because I set the java_pool to 0 in my init file (we 
  don't use anything java related against our 
  databases). Does anybody know how to disable or 
  de-install java from the database? I've taken a look at the jvmrm.sql in RDBMS/Admin: 
  -- Remove some portion of the Java related data dictionary 
  objects 
  -- This script must be run as a subscript of a script which 
  sets the -- variable jvmrmaction. -- Possible values are --  
  FULL_REMOVAL:    remove all java 
  related objects 
  But can't find anything of a script that will call this? 
  Anyone have any ideas? 
  Cheers 
  Mark (Why do I bother?) Leith 
  -Original Message- Sent: 22 
  February 2002 10:18 To: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-L 
  Mark The ora600 lookup  tool on 
  Metalink states that there is no description for this 
  code John -Original 
  Message- Sent: 22 February 2002 09:34 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  Hi Ladies and Gents, I installed 9.0.1 
  on to my Win2K machine yesterday, and whilst installing an un-named monitoring tool against it this morning, the instance crashed 
  with a bunch of ORA-600's in the alert log. Below are 
  the two that appeared, though the first turned up 
  about 10 times concurrently: Fri Feb 22 09:22:28 
  2002 Errors in file 
  C:\oracle\admin\ORCL\udump\ORA01668.TRC: ORA-00600: 
  internal error code, arguments: [26599], [1], [190], [], [], [], 
  [], [] Fri Feb 22 09:22:34 
  2002 Errors in file 
  C:\oracle\admin\ORCL\udump\ORA01668.TRC: ORA-00600: 
  internal error code, arguments: [150], [], [], [], [], [], [], [] 
  Anyone ever seen these before? I'm not going to call support 
  as this is only a sandbox database, so please don't 
  tell me to call them or log a tar.. I have enough to 
  do today already! :( Any feedback on these is, 
  however, much appreciated! Thanks Mark ===  Mark 
  Leith 
  

Re: How to make deletes faster.

2002-02-22 Thread Bjørn Engsig

You should consider doing a create newtable as select with the oposite 
conditions as your delete, followed by a truncate/drop, exchange partition or 
whatever.  Delete is really hard against the undo segments.

/Bjørn.

On Thursday 21 February 2002 23:13, you wrote:
> Hello All,
> I have a non-partitioned table with 20 millions
> records and growing. Every night a pl/sql stored
> procedures deletes around 1 million rows 10,000 at a
> time.Currently it is taking aroung 1 hour to delete 1
> million messages.
> Is there any way I can make deletes faster. I need
> good suggestions. I have already tried all the obvious
> init.ora parameters like make_delete_faster=true but
> they do not seem to work.:-)
>
> Thanks
> Sonia
>
>
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Re: Anybody against using views?

2002-02-22 Thread Bjørn Engsig

It might be the case, that the dictionary cache cannot store any information 
of type LONG (which the view text is), but that requires more investigation.  
If somebody knows, please inform the rest of us.

But you can just turn on sql_trace and see the query against view$ for each 
parse.

/Bjørn.

On Thursday 21 February 2002 22:23, you wrote:
> How did you determine that it's not stored in the DC?
>
> The DC is not a data store but it's a cache.
>
> Just curios.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Waleed
>
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 3:48 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> A thing about views, that nobody else seem to have mentioned is that the
> view
> text is not stored in the dictionary cache.  Hence, each time you hard
> parse
>
> a sql statement with a view, Oracle will query view$ to get the text.
> Hence,
> if you are at the limit of scalability or performance due to hard parses,
> views make things worse.
>
> /Bjørn.
>
> On Thursday 21 February 2002 17:18, you wrote:
> > We have several applications that use views extensively.  On the other
>
> hand
>
> > there are several apps that use no views at all.  We have a new developer
> > who wants to use views when writing reports in Crystal Reports.  The
> > application administrator is leery of using views and ask the DBA group
> > what we think.  I can see several reasons to use views and a few reasons
> > not to use them.  I was just wondering what the rest of the group
> > thought.
> >
> > Ron Smith
> > DBA
> > Kerr-McGee Corp

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Re: JDBC problem

2002-02-22 Thread Marin Dimitrov


- Original Message -

>  I am not at all getting connected to the database.

what is the exception?

if u don't get connection for some reason then an exception is thrown with
the proper error code

can u access the instance [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1521:edb with any tool?

also next time don't send the whole source tree for the project to the list,
there were just 2 jdbc related statements in this source


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Problem with Rollback segment getting locked

2002-02-22 Thread Viral Amin
Title: Problem with Rollback segment getting locked





Hi All,


   I have about 12 Rollback segmennts in my database & 25 concurrent users logged in. I am continuously facing problems of oracle just keep locking couple of Rollback segments. other people have to wait till Oracle releses the locks on this rollback segments.

My Query is..Why Oracle is just using the few rollback segments from the avilable 12 & then others have to wait till the locks on the rollback segments are released.

Pls help..This is URGENT!!


Regards,


Viral Amin






RE: RMAN Question

2002-02-22 Thread Jay Hostetter

You can tell RMAN to delete the archive files.  We tell RMAN to keep the last 12 hours 
on disk.

run 
{
allocate channel ch1 type disk format '/bkup1/oracle/%d/full_s%s_p%p_%t';
allocate channel ch2 type disk format '/bkup5/oracle/%d/full_s%s_p%p_%t';
set limit channel ch1 kbytes=100; # Limit sets to 1 Gb.
set limit channel ch2 kbytes=100;
# filesperset is used to avoid O R A-04030 
backup full database 
 filesperset=4
 tag='daily_full_backup';
allocate channel ch3 type disk format '/bkup5/oracle/%d/arc_s%s_p%p_%t';
allocate channel ch4 type disk format '/bkup1/oracle/%d/arc_s%s_p%p_%t';
set limit channel ch3 kbytes=100;
set limit channel ch4 kbytes=100;
backup filesperset=20 
  (archivelog from time 'sysdate-12/24' 
channel ch3
   )
   (archivelog until time 'sysdate-12/24' delete input
channel ch4
   );
}

The reason that we use RMAN to backup our archive logs is so that we have a complete 
backup on our tapes.  We backup to disk, which is then backed up to tape.  If I want 
to restore my database from 3 weeks ago, I know that the tape from that day contains 
all of the files I need to restore my database for that day.  This is especially 
important if I am restoring a hot backup or I am restoring to a specific point in time 
(i.e. a point in time that is different from the backup time).

On a separate but related note, I previously posted a script which used SET UNTIL TIME 
and TO_DATE.  e.g.: #set until time "to_date(0125200207,mmddhh24miss)";
I obtained this from a note on MetaLink.  It turns out that this doesn't work, due to 
a bug (1887009). I found it mentioned on a forum under Doc ID: 180832.995.  It is 
supposedly fixed in 9.0.2.  The workaround is to use NLS_DATE_FORMAT.  Be sure to set 
NLS_LANG as well, otherwise NLS_DATE_FORMAT is ignored (at least on 8.1.7 on Tru64).



Jay Hostetter
Oracle DBA
D. & E. Communications
Ephrata, PA  USA

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/21/02 04:58PM >>>
Ashoke
If I understand you correctly, you are using RMAN to backup to disk,
rather than to a media manager. You are asking whether you can archive these
in RMAN, plus leave them on disk so they are readily available for recovery.

I have used this configuration, and I have found that RMAN leaves
the archive logs on disk after it has backed them up. Also, I believe but
have not tested this, that in case of a recovery, RMAN first looks to the
original unarchived disk location for the archive logs and if it can't find
them there, it will retrieve them from its backup location (disk file or
tape if you are using a media manager), and put them where they should be,
then continue the recovery.
After thinking about this, I decided that using RMAN to backup the
archive logs wasn't buying me anything. Just making my setup more
complicated. If I was backing up to a media manager, then having RMAN back
up the archive logs would be great because it would be moving them to tape.
As it is, RMAN isn't compressing them before moving them to disk. My regular
nightly tape backup will give me a safety copy on tape. If I feel I need a
disk copy, I will just compress the files to another location and end up
with something significantly smaller. If I have overlooked something in my
logic, please point that out to me because I am just beginning to learn RMAN
and am frequently interrupted by other DBA duties, so learning is going very
slowly.
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Greetings,

We are at Oracle 8.1.7 on Sun Solaris 7.

Can we backup all the archive logs at any point of time but not deleting all
these archive logs as we like to keep the archive logs for 2 days(SYSDATE-1)
in the disk so that we don't need to restore the archive logs from rman
backup in case of some recovery up to point within last 2 days.

Thanks,
Ashoke
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RE: Woopeee and TWO ORA-600's!

2002-02-22 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: Woopeee and TWO ORA-600's!





Mark,
Here are a couple of notes I saved on the subject


John


rmjvm.sql doesnot remove all the components properly. If your resources sizes are ok, then try following.
 
If for any reason the installation fails then $ORACLE_HOME/javavm/install/rmjvm.sql has to be run. Unfortunately it does not remove all the components. Following workaround has to be used to get over the bugs.

1. Restart the database.


2. Start a different session other than the one that started the database.


3. Run initjvmaux.sql


4. Run rmjvm.sql


5. Run following SQL queries, LOG on as SYS.


--The minimum action to remove JIS trigger is running the following sql.


drop trigger JIS$ROLE_TRIGGER$;


delete from ducs$ where owner='SYS' and pack='JIS$INTERCEPTOR$' and proc='USER_DROPPED';


delete from aurora$startup$classes$ where classname='oracle.aurora.mts.http.admin.RegisterService';


delete from aurora$dyn$reg;


.


Are you sure its hanging.  Documents have said it can take up to an hour and its that statement
that tends to take the longest.  I have seen quite the variation in time depending on the system 
I am on.
-Original Message-
From: Saravana Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 11:25 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: initjvm.sql



Hi friends,
   I have problem during execution of initjvm.sql
 
The step's which i have followed.
 
1)Increased system tablespace 200 mb
2)increased the shared pool size 50mb
3)increased the java  pool size to 50mb
4)ran rmjvm.sql
5)initjvm.sql
 
While runnig initjvm.sql the script hangs while i get the
statement create or replace java system;
 


-Original Message-
From: Mark Leith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 22 February 2002 11:08
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: Woopeee and TWO ORA-600's!



Ahh well!


I have another question following this:


I am also getting the following error on startup:


Fri Feb 22 09:33:04 2002
Errors in file C:\oracle\admin\ORCL\udump\ORA03028.TRC:
ORA-04031: unable to allocate 4032 bytes of shared memory ("shared
pool","unknown object","joxs heap init","ioc_allocate_pal")


Fri Feb 22 09:33:10 2002
Errors in file C:\oracle\admin\ORCL\udump\ORA03028.TRC:
ORA-00604: error occurred at recursive SQL level 1
ORA-04031: unable to allocate 4032 bytes of shared memory ("shared
pool","unknown object","joxs heap init","ioc_allocate_pal")
ORA-06512: at "SYS.DBMS_JAVA", line 216
ORA-06512: at line 2


Completed: alter database open


This is because I set the java_pool to 0 in my init file (we don't use
anything java related against our databases). Does anybody know how to
disable or de-install java from the database? I've taken a look at the
jvmrm.sql in RDBMS/Admin:


-- Remove some portion of the Java related data dictionary objects


-- This script must be run as a subscript of a script which sets the
-- variable jvmrmaction.
-- Possible values are
--  FULL_REMOVAL:    remove all java related objects


But can't find anything of a script that will call this? Anyone have any
ideas?


Cheers


Mark (Why do I bother?) Leith


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Sent: 22 February 2002 10:18
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



Mark
The ora600 lookup  tool on Metalink states that there is no description for
this code
John
-Original Message-
Sent: 22 February 2002 09:34
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



Hi Ladies and Gents,
I installed 9.0.1 on to my Win2K machine yesterday, and whilst installing an
un-named monitoring tool against it this morning, the instance crashed with
a bunch of ORA-600's in the alert log. Below are the two that appeared,
though the first turned up about 10 times concurrently:
Fri Feb 22 09:22:28 2002
Errors in file C:\oracle\admin\ORCL\udump\ORA01668.TRC:
ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [26599], [1], [190], [], [], [],
[], []
Fri Feb 22 09:22:34 2002
Errors in file C:\oracle\admin\ORCL\udump\ORA01668.TRC:
ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [150], [], [], [], [], [], [], []
Anyone ever seen these before? I'm not going to call support as this is only
a sandbox database, so please don't tell me to call them or log a tar.. I
have enough to do today already! :(
Any feedback on these is, however, much appreciated!
Thanks
Mark
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Re: JDBC problem

2002-02-22 Thread P.V.Sankar


Hi,
 I think you might have read my java code.
 My problem is 
 I am not at all getting connected to the database.
 Anything wrong in my code.i don't understand whether the problem is with
some settings on the server[Solaris] or Java code
 
 Please check my code & give me your suggestions

 Thanks
 Sankar





On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Marin Dimitrov wrote:

> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "P.V.Sankar" 
> 
> > I am using java only
> > The code as follows:
> > Please give me some suggestions in solving this problem
> > 
> 
> which problem?
> 
> what is the exception?
> 
> 
> Marin
> 
> 
> "...what you brought from your past, is of no use in your present. When 
> you must choose a new path, do not bring old experiences with you. 
> Those who strike out afresh, but who attempt to retain a little of the 
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> 
> 
> 
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Raster Data in Oracle Spatial

2002-02-22 Thread McMenamin. Sharyn ESBI

I am getting some conflicting answers to what I deem to be a fairly simple
question.  Does Oracle Spatial support storage of raster data?  

We are looking at this in particular to reference to GIS systems.  I have
contacted MapInfo Support and have been told that "Oracle Spatial does not
store Images or any type of raster data including Mr Sid and other
compressed formats. Rasters are usually stored locally."  However, I have
just come across something referencing the GeoImage Component of Oracle.
What is this?  Does it allow the storage of raster data in Oracle Spatial?
And if it does, can you store compressed images such as Mr. Sid?  

I'm really hoping someone out there can clarify this for me.  Thank you.

Sharyn McMenamin
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RE: Woopeee and TWO ORA-600's!

2002-02-22 Thread Mark Leith

Ahh well!

I have another question following this:

I am also getting the following error on startup:

Fri Feb 22 09:33:04 2002
Errors in file C:\oracle\admin\ORCL\udump\ORA03028.TRC:
ORA-04031: unable to allocate 4032 bytes of shared memory ("shared
pool","unknown object","joxs heap init","ioc_allocate_pal")

Fri Feb 22 09:33:10 2002
Errors in file C:\oracle\admin\ORCL\udump\ORA03028.TRC:
ORA-00604: error occurred at recursive SQL level 1
ORA-04031: unable to allocate 4032 bytes of shared memory ("shared
pool","unknown object","joxs heap init","ioc_allocate_pal")
ORA-06512: at "SYS.DBMS_JAVA", line 216
ORA-06512: at line 2

Completed: alter database open

This is because I set the java_pool to 0 in my init file (we don't use
anything java related against our databases). Does anybody know how to
disable or de-install java from the database? I've taken a look at the
jvmrm.sql in RDBMS/Admin:

-- Remove some portion of the Java related data dictionary objects

-- This script must be run as a subscript of a script which sets the
-- variable jvmrmaction.
-- Possible values are
--  FULL_REMOVAL:remove all java related objects

But can't find anything of a script that will call this? Anyone have any
ideas?

Cheers

Mark (Why do I bother?) Leith

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Mark
The ora600 lookup  tool on Metalink states that there is no description for
this code
John
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Hi Ladies and Gents,
I installed 9.0.1 on to my Win2K machine yesterday, and whilst installing an
un-named monitoring tool against it this morning, the instance crashed with
a bunch of ORA-600's in the alert log. Below are the two that appeared,
though the first turned up about 10 times concurrently:
Fri Feb 22 09:22:28 2002
Errors in file C:\oracle\admin\ORCL\udump\ORA01668.TRC:
ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [26599], [1], [190], [], [], [],
[], []
Fri Feb 22 09:22:34 2002
Errors in file C:\oracle\admin\ORCL\udump\ORA01668.TRC:
ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [150], [], [], [], [], [], [], []
Anyone ever seen these before? I'm not going to call support as this is only
a sandbox database, so please don't tell me to call them or log a tar.. I
have enough to do today already! :(
Any feedback on these is, however, much appreciated!
Thanks
Mark
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Re: Options instead of ODBC + MS-Access [Slightly? Off-topic]

2002-02-22 Thread Peter . McLarty

Corvu, Cognos, Crystal reports(oops did I say that),
Oracle Discoverer, 

Depends on the budget and what you really need to do. The first to are to very 
powerful tools but do cost a bit but they will use native links annd you can generate 
much smater queries with them

Access and ODBC may well show performance problems as ODBC isn't generally a great 
performer.

HTH


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A developer here has put together a reporting package which uses ODBC to
interface to an 8.1.7 DB on W2K server and utilises MS-Access on client to
extract data and generate nice GUI final presentation of data.  The data
extracted has various computations performed.  The developer has asked 
what
other Oracle or 3rd party options might be used to realise the same end
results perhaps in a more efficient manner.  Their concern is that as data
volumes grow the performance will degredate substantially.  Anyone any
ideas?.

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Re: JDBC problem

2002-02-22 Thread Marin Dimitrov


- Original Message - 

> I am using java only
> The code as follows:
> Please give me some suggestions in solving this problem
> 

which problem?

what is the exception?


Marin


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RE: Woopeee and TWO ORA-600's!

2002-02-22 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: Woopeee and TWO ORA-600's!





Mark
The ora600 lookup  tool on Metalink states that there is no description for this code
John
-Original Message-
From: Mark Leith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 22 February 2002 09:34
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: Woopeee and TWO ORA-600's!



Hi Ladies and Gents,


I installed 9.0.1 on to my Win2K machine yesterday, and whilst installing an
un-named monitoring tool against it this morning, the instance crashed with
a bunch of ORA-600's in the alert log. Below are the two that appeared,
though the first turned up about 10 times concurrently:


Fri Feb 22 09:22:28 2002
Errors in file C:\oracle\admin\ORCL\udump\ORA01668.TRC:
ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [26599], [1], [190], [], [], [],
[], []


Fri Feb 22 09:22:34 2002
Errors in file C:\oracle\admin\ORCL\udump\ORA01668.TRC:
ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [150], [], [], [], [], [], [], []


Anyone ever seen these before? I'm not going to call support as this is only
a sandbox database, so please don't tell me to call them or log a tar.. I
have enough to do today already! :(


Any feedback on these is, however, much appreciated!


Thanks


Mark


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