Re: Orion Powered Sites
Results from NetCraft's "what's it running?" tool, http://www.netcraft.com: http://www.redbull.com - Unable to determine http://www.javalobby.com - Running Orion/1.0.3 on Solaris http://www.vpro.nl - Running Orion/0.8.1n on Linux http://www.linuxtoday.com.au - Running Orion/1.3.8 on Linux http://wap.hjemmenett.no - Unable to determine http://www.headlinewatch.com - Running Orion/1.0.3 on Solaris http://news.partsbase.com - Running Orion/1.0.3 on Solaris http://australia.internet.com - Running Orion/1.3.8 on Linux http://www.yesitworks.com - Running Orion/1.1.9 on Solaris http://www.internetstockreport.com.au - Running Orion/1.3.8 on Linux http://www.e-mediamarketer.com.au - Running Orion/1.3.8 on Linux -- Jason Rimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Gordon Sell" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 10:27 PM Subject: Re: Orion Powered Sites Try these(they are from the orion site) http://www.redbull.com http://www.javalobby.com http://www.vpro.nl http://www.linuxtoday.com.au http://wap.hjemmenett.no http://www.headlinewatch.com http://news.partsbase.com http://australia.internet.com http://www.yesitworks.com http://www.internetstockreport.com.au http://www.e-mediamarketer.com.au Cheers Gordon
Re: ALTERNATIVES TO JDK1.3
Have you tried with JIKES David Sierra Fernandez wrote: Could you tell me if there is an alternative compiler to jdk 1.3? I'm looking for other compilers but they should compile all my middleware components (servlets, JSPs,EJBs,JavaBeans) TIA -- Sierr@ --
RE: Deploying the java pet store?
at www.orionsupport.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Nicholson Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 8:33 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Deploying the java pet store? Where can I find the instructions on deploying the new java pet store with Orion 1.3.8? --- Robert Nicholson Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AOL : rydmerlin
SV: Orion Powered Sites
wap.hjemmenett.no is running Orion 0.6.2 :) Klaus -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Jason Rimmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sendt: 20. oktober 2000 08:00 Til: Orion-Interest Emne: Re: Orion Powered Sites Results from NetCraft's "what's it running?" tool, http://www.netcraft.com: http://www.redbull.com - Unable to determine http://www.javalobby.com - Running Orion/1.0.3 on Solaris http://www.vpro.nl - Running Orion/0.8.1n on Linux http://www.linuxtoday.com.au - Running Orion/1.3.8 on Linux http://wap.hjemmenett.no - Unable to determine http://www.headlinewatch.com - Running Orion/1.0.3 on Solaris http://news.partsbase.com - Running Orion/1.0.3 on Solaris http://australia.internet.com - Running Orion/1.3.8 on Linux http://www.yesitworks.com - Running Orion/1.1.9 on Solaris http://www.internetstockreport.com.au - Running Orion/1.3.8 on Linux http://www.e-mediamarketer.com.au - Running Orion/1.3.8 on Linux -- Jason Rimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Gordon Sell" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 10:27 PM Subject: Re: Orion Powered Sites Try these(they are from the orion site) http://www.redbull.com http://www.javalobby.com http://www.vpro.nl http://www.linuxtoday.com.au http://wap.hjemmenett.no http://www.headlinewatch.com http://news.partsbase.com http://australia.internet.com http://www.yesitworks.com http://www.internetstockreport.com.au http://www.e-mediamarketer.com.au Cheers Gordon
RE: Orion in production
www.opengolf.com This is the official web site for the British Open Golf tournament. Did 30 million page impressions/day (ish) for the four days of the Open. George GEORGE HOLMES TWI Interactive Media House Burlington Lane LONDON W4 2TH ENGLAND TEL: +44 208 233 5631 FAX: +44 208 233 7701 CELL: +44 7968 918813 -Original Message- From: Juan Lorandi (Chile) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 October 2000 22:13 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Orion in production Hi! I have been using orion for about 6 months now, and now, as I'm finishing my app, I need to sell orion to my customers... For this, it would be *VERY* valuable to have a list of sites (on the internet or intranets) which use orion... So, basically, what I have in mind is that anybody on this list that wishes to report a site as being partiallly/fully powered by orion, report it to my email address, [EMAIL PROTECTED], so that I can make a list of these, to publish it on WWW I think this will prove useful for us all. TIA, JP
Re: Shutdown sequence not working
With the orionserver installed as default and having the disabled="true" property on principals.xml it works fine for me on Windows 2000. Have you modified some config files from Orion (orion/config) ? Drew Kidder wrote: If by "enable user admin" you mean not having the disabled="true" property set for that user (or whatever it is), that's not the case. I have removed that property. And I would think that orion should tell me that the user is invalid, rather than the wrong number of arguments. How would I enable the admin user, aside from removing that tag that is present in the default principals.xml file? At 12:51 PM 10/19/2000 -0500, you wrote: Hi Drew, you should edit principals.xml and enable user admin. Your command is fine, atleast it works for me. But I have found a problem with this command on Unix with J2SE 13. It kills the server but not the process , then you cannot restart the orion server. -- Andrew Kidder L3 SW/Support Engineer, IBU Tivoli Systems 512-436-4544 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tivoli.com
When I send a mail to the list I receive a Mail Error: message blocked.
Your mail cannot be delivered to the following address(es): [EMAIL PROTECTED], 553 From [EMAIL PROTECTED], message blocked. Please check the above address(es) and then try again. Header of the source mail attached Received: from druid.evermind.net([195.84.237.200]) by china.com(JetMail 2.5.3.0) with SMTP id jm1b39edaded; Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:55:18 - Received: from druid.evermind.net (IDENT:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1]) by druid.evermind.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA06760; Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:05:15 -0100 Received: from capitular.tissat.es (capitular.tissat.es [195.77.30.34]) by paladin.evermind.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA14618 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 18 Oct 2000 13:03:13 -0400 Received: from tissat.es ([195.77.30.86]) by capitular.tissat.es (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA356C for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:03:33 +0200 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:03:28 +0200 From: "Ismael Blesa Part" [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Orion ListServer X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: How to know which changes have been done on each new orionserver version? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Shutdown sequence not working
try this: java -jar orion.jar -install From: Drew Kidder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Shutdown sequence not working Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 16:26:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [195.84.237.200] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id MHotMailBBB8C7FD00B6D82197C9C354EDC804450; Thu Oct 19 16:00:22 2000 Received: from druid.evermind.net (IDENT:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1])by druid.evermind.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA05038;Thu, 19 Oct 2000 23:36:42 -0100 Received: from corp.tivoli.com (corp.tivoli.com [216.140.178.60])by paladin.evermind.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA16317for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 20 Oct 2000 00:25:30 -0400 Received: from bonehead.tivoli.com (bonehead.dev.tivoli.com [146.84.38.179])by corp.tivoli.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id QAA03937for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 19 Oct 2000 16:26:17 -0500 (CDT) From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Oct 19 16:01:32 2000 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Orion ListServer In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If by "enable user admin" you mean not having the disabled="true" property set for that user (or whatever it is), that's not the case. I have removed that property. And I would think that orion should tell me that the user is invalid, rather than the wrong number of arguments. How would I enable the admin user, aside from removing that tag that is present in the default principals.xml file? At 12:51 PM 10/19/2000 -0500, you wrote: Hi Drew, you should edit principals.xml and enable user admin. Your command is fine, atleast it works for me. But I have found a problem with this command on Unix with J2SE 13. It kills the server but not the process , then you cannot restart the orion server. -- Andrew Kidder L3 SW/Support Engineer, IBU Tivoli Systems 512-436-4544 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tivoli.com _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
RE: Orion in production
Sorry, site was running on NT4 using Sun JDK 1.3 George GEORGE HOLMES TWI Interactive Media House Burlington Lane LONDON W4 2TH ENGLAND TEL: +44 208 233 5631 FAX: +44 208 233 7701 CELL: +44 7968 918813 -Original Message- From: Holmes, George (TWIi London) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 October 2000 09:14 To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: Orion in production www.opengolf.com This is the official web site for the British Open Golf tournament. Did 30 million page impressions/day (ish) for the four days of the Open. George GEORGE HOLMES TWI Interactive Media House Burlington Lane LONDON W4 2TH ENGLAND TEL: +44 208 233 5631 FAX: +44 208 233 7701 CELL: +44 7968 918813 -Original Message- From: Juan Lorandi (Chile) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 October 2000 22:13 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Orion in production Hi! I have been using orion for about 6 months now, and now, as I'm finishing my app, I need to sell orion to my customers... For this, it would be *VERY* valuable to have a list of sites (on the internet or intranets) which use orion... So, basically, what I have in mind is that anybody on this list that wishes to report a site as being partiallly/fully powered by orion, report it to my email address, [EMAIL PROTECTED], so that I can make a list of these, to publish it on WWW I think this will prove useful for us all. TIA, JP
Re: SV: Orion Powered Sites
At 10:08 20.10.00 , you wrote: wap.hjemmenett.no is running Orion 0.6.2 :) Klaus -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Jason Rimmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sendt: 20. oktober 2000 08:00 Til: Orion-Interest Emne: Re: Orion Powered Sites Results from NetCraft's "what's it running?" tool, http://www.netcraft.com: http://www.redbull.com - Unable to determine and all other local sites (redbull.de redbull.nl etc.) run 1.3.8 on linux http://www.javalobby.com - Running Orion/1.0.3 on Solaris http://www.vpro.nl - Running Orion/0.8.1n on Linux http://www.linuxtoday.com.au - Running Orion/1.3.8 on Linux http://wap.hjemmenett.no - Unable to determine http://www.headlinewatch.com - Running Orion/1.0.3 on Solaris http://news.partsbase.com - Running Orion/1.0.3 on Solaris http://australia.internet.com - Running Orion/1.3.8 on Linux http://www.yesitworks.com - Running Orion/1.1.9 on Solaris http://www.internetstockreport.com.au - Running Orion/1.3.8 on Linux http://www.e-mediamarketer.com.au - Running Orion/1.3.8 on Linux -- Jason Rimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] robert - Original Message - From: "Gordon Sell" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 10:27 PM Subject: Re: Orion Powered Sites Try these(they are from the orion site) http://www.redbull.com http://www.javalobby.com http://www.vpro.nl http://www.linuxtoday.com.au http://wap.hjemmenett.no http://www.headlinewatch.com http://news.partsbase.com http://australia.internet.com http://www.yesitworks.com http://www.internetstockreport.com.au http://www.e-mediamarketer.com.au Cheers Gordon (-) Robert Krüger (-) SIGNAL 7 Gesellschaft für Informationstechnologie mbH (-) Brüder-Knauß-Str. 79 - 64285 Darmstadt, (-) Tel: 06151 665401, Fax: 06151 665373 (-) [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.signal7.de
RE: Orion in production
At 10:00 20.10.00 , you wrote: Sorry, site was running on NT4 using Sun JDK 1.3 good point (including the jdk in the list) the redbull sites run sun jdk1.3 release hotspot server version robert George GEORGE HOLMES TWI Interactive Media House Burlington Lane LONDON W4 2TH ENGLAND TEL: +44 208 233 5631 FAX: +44 208 233 7701 CELL: +44 7968 918813 -Original Message- From: Holmes, George (TWIi London) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 October 2000 09:14 To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: Orion in production www.opengolf.com This is the official web site for the British Open Golf tournament. Did 30 million page impressions/day (ish) for the four days of the Open. George GEORGE HOLMES TWI Interactive Media House Burlington Lane LONDON W4 2TH ENGLAND TEL: +44 208 233 5631 FAX: +44 208 233 7701 CELL: +44 7968 918813 -Original Message- From: Juan Lorandi (Chile) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 October 2000 22:13 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Orion in production Hi! I have been using orion for about 6 months now, and now, as I'm finishing my app, I need to sell orion to my customers... For this, it would be *VERY* valuable to have a list of sites (on the internet or intranets) which use orion... So, basically, what I have in mind is that anybody on this list that wishes to report a site as being partiallly/fully powered by orion, report it to my email address, [EMAIL PROTECTED], so that I can make a list of these, to publish it on WWW I think this will prove useful for us all. TIA, JP (-) Robert Krüger (-) SIGNAL 7 Gesellschaft für Informationstechnologie mbH (-) Brüder-Knauß-Str. 79 - 64285 Darmstadt, (-) Tel: 06151 665401, Fax: 06151 665373 (-) [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.signal7.de
EJB 2.0 1-1 mapping entity-depobj problem
I get the following error during deployment: "Method public abstract CP CB.getPrefs() can not be declared abstract" relationships ejb-relation ejb-relation-nameC-CP/ejb-relation-name ejb-relationship-role ejb-relationship-role-namec-p/ejb-relationship-role-name multiplicityone/multiplicity role-source ejb-nameC/ejb-name /role-source cmr-field cmr-field-nameprefs/cmr-field-name cmr-field-typeCP/cmr-field-type /cmr-field /ejb-relationship-role ejb-relationship-role ejb-relationship-role-namecontactprefs-belongs-to-contact/ejb-relationshi p-role-name multiplicityone/multiplicity role-source dependent-nameCP/dependent-name /role-source /ejb-relationship-role /ejb-relation /relationships In the CP bean, I have: public abstract CP getprefs(); What's wrong with that? Thanks, Joel Shellman
Re: Orion in production
"Juan Lorandi (Chile)" wrote: Hi! I have been using orion for about 6 months now, and now, as I'm finishing my app, I need to sell orion to my customers... For this, it would be *VERY* valuable to have a list of sites (on the internet or intranets) which use orion... So, basically, what I have in mind is that anybody on this list that wishes to report a site as being partiallly/fully powered by orion, report it to my email address, [EMAIL PROTECTED], so that I can make a list of these, to publish it on WWW I think this will prove useful for us all. www.cachoeiro.net www.snpc.com.br -- == Sven E. van 't Veer http://www.cachoeiro.net Java Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==
Choosing a JNDI name for a remote home interface
Hi, Is it possible to assign a JNDI name to a home interface? It is possible with other EJB containers. e.g. I might want... "mycompany.RenderFarmHome" rather than "java:comp/env/ejb/RenderFarmHome" This is particularly useful if I have a bean that can be deployed into JBoss as well as Orion. TIA, - Paul H
RE: Orion in production
As of interest. What sort of configuration were the running? Frank On Friday, October 20, 2000 10:14 AM, Holmes, George (TWIi London) [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: www.opengolf.com This is the official web site for the British Open Golf tournament. Did 30 million page impressions/day (ish) for the four days of the Open. George GEORGE HOLMES TWI Interactive Media House Burlington Lane LONDON W4 2TH ENGLAND TEL: +44 208 233 5631 FAX: +44 208 233 7701 CELL: +44 7968 918813 -Original Message- From: Juan Lorandi (Chile) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 October 2000 22:13 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Orion in production Hi! I have been using orion for about 6 months now, and now, as I'm finishing my app, I need to sell orion to my customers... For this, it would be *VERY* valuable to have a list of sites (on the internet or intranets) which use orion... So, basically, what I have in mind is that anybody on this list that wishes to report a site as being partiallly/fully powered by orion, report it to my email address, [EMAIL PROTECTED], so that I can make a list of these, to publish it on WWW I think this will prove useful for us all. TIA, JP
RE: Orion in production
I don't know what's the downside of believing these statistics. On http://www.netcraft.com: click on 'what's that site running' click on 'help' click on 'range' click on 'Index' (of Sept 2000 of course) Hit Ctrl-F and search for orion. It tells you 1238 servers are running orion. (If you want your boss to go ahead with orion, don't show him number 5 on the list!) Frank On Friday, October 20, 2000 12:38 PM, Sven van 't Veer [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: "Juan Lorandi (Chile)" wrote: Hi! I have been using orion for about 6 months now, and now, as I'm finishing my app, I need to sell orion to my customers... For this, it would be *VERY* valuable to have a list of sites (on the internet or intranets) which use orion... So, basically, what I have in mind is that anybody on this list that wishes to report a site as being partiallly/fully powered by orion, report it to my email address, [EMAIL PROTECTED], so that I can make a list of these, to publish it on WWW I think this will prove useful for us all. www.cachoeiro.net www.snpc.com.br -- == Sven E. van 't Veer http://www.cachoeiro.net Java Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==
Re: EJB 2.0 1-1 mapping entity-depobj problem
Joel, Did you declare "prefs" as a cmp-field in the entity declaration? For example: entity ... cmp-field field-nameprefs/field-name /cmp-field ... /entity I was getting the same exception until I made the above change. --- Joel Shellman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I get the following error during deployment: "Method public abstract CP CB.getPrefs() can not be declared abstract" relationships ejb-relation ejb-relation-nameC-CP/ejb-relation-name ejb-relationship-role ejb-relationship-role-namec-p/ejb-relationship-role-name multiplicityone/multiplicity role-source ejb-nameC/ejb-name /role-source cmr-field cmr-field-nameprefs/cmr-field-name cmr-field-typeCP/cmr-field-type /cmr-field /ejb-relationship-role ejb-relationship-role ejb-relationship-role-namecontactprefs-belongs-to-contact/ejb-relationshi p-role-name multiplicityone/multiplicity role-source dependent-nameCP/dependent-name /role-source /ejb-relationship-role /ejb-relation /relationships In the CP bean, I have: public abstract CP getprefs(); What's wrong with that? Thanks, Joel Shellman __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/
searchable mail archive
Some of you may be interested in knowing that there is a searchable archive for this mailing list at http://www.mail-archive.com/orion-interest%40orionserver.com/ This may help you in determining if a question has already been asked and answered in one form or another. Cheers! d.Akers.
RE: Orion in production
Very narrow range of top-level domains. No European or Asian domains at all... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Frank Eggink Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 14:09 To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: Orion in production I don't know what's the downside of believing these statistics. On http://www.netcraft.com: click on 'what's that site running' click on 'help' click on 'range' click on 'Index' (of Sept 2000 of course) Hit Ctrl-F and search for orion. It tells you 1238 servers are running orion. (If you want your boss to go ahead with orion, don't show him number 5 on the list!) Frank On Friday, October 20, 2000 12:38 PM, Sven van 't Veer [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: "Juan Lorandi (Chile)" wrote: Hi! I have been using orion for about 6 months now, and now, as I'm finishing my app, I need to sell orion to my customers... For this, it would be *VERY* valuable to have a list of sites (on the internet or intranets) which use orion... So, basically, what I have in mind is that anybody on this list that wishes to report a site as being partiallly/fully powered by orion, report it to my email address, [EMAIL PROTECTED], so that I can make a list of these, to publish it on WWW I think this will prove useful for us all. www.cachoeiro.net www.snpc.com.br -- == Sven E. van 't Veer http://www.cachoeiro.net Java Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==
Cluster and session-attributes
Hi,
we have configured a cluster with the web-part over two machines.
They are placed on the same net with a load balancer which listens
to 172.23.20.58:100 and selects between 172.23.20.29:8090/172.23.20.58:8090.
They are in a so called cluster-island and everything goes just fine
with easy JSP- and HTML-pages. BUT... when it comes to sharing session and
their attributes something goes wrong when we do a
"session.removeAttribute("X");"
Does anyone know why? Here are some fileconfigurations for you:
1) Start of the load balancer:
C:\cm\orionjava -jar loadbalancer.jar -host 172.23.20.58 -port 100
Balancer initialized...
Added island number 1 to the cluster...
Discovered server LKPS031/172.23.20.29:8090...
Discovered server LKPS031/172.23.20.29:8090...
2) start of Orion:
C:\cm\orionjava -jar orion.jar
Orion/1.3.8 initialized
3) Our config-files:
orion-web.xml
?xml version="1.0"?
!DOCTYPE orion-web-app PUBLIC "-//Evermind//DTD Orion Web Application
2.3//EN" "http://www.orionserver.com/dtds/orion-web.dtd"
orion-web-app
deployment-version="1.3.8"
jsp-cache-directory="./persistence"
temporary-directory="./temp"
servlet-webdir="/servlet/"
cluster-config host="230.0.0.1" id="1" port="9127" /
/orion-web-app
cm-web-site.xml
?xml version="1.0"?
!DOCTYPE web-site PUBLIC "Orion Web-site"
"http://www.orionserver.com/dtds/web-site.dtd"
web-site host="172.23.20.58" port="8090" display-name="Framfab CM WebSite"
cluster-island="1"
!-- The default web-app for this site, bound to the root --
default-web-app application="cmweb" name="webfiles" /
access-log path="../log/default-web-access.log" /
frontend host="172.23.20.58" port="100" /
/web-site
web.xml
?xml version="1.0"?
!DOCTYPE web-app PUBLIC "-//Sun Microsystems, Inc.//DTD Web Application
2.3//EN" "http://java.sun.com/j2ee/dtds/web-app_2_3.dtd"
web-app
display-nameFramfab Content Management/display-name
descriptionWebfiles for FFCM application/description
distributable /
login-config
auth-methodBASIC/auth-method
/login-config
/web-app
Our easy examples comes here:
1) A JSP-page to set/get and remove attributes:
pre
%
try {
session.setAttribute("cmCluster", "Hello World!");
out.println("1");
out.println(session.getAttribute("cmCluster"));
out.println("2");
out.println(":" + session.getAttribute("cmChrister") + ":");
out.println("3");
session.removeAttribute("cmCluster");
out.println("4");
session.removeAttribute("cmChrister");
out.println("5");
} catch (Throwable t) { out.println(t); }
%
/pre
2) Result:
1
Hello World!
2
:null:
3
--- java.lang.StackOverflowError
The same error appears when we uses another page but orion types all the
error to the page like this:
500 Internal Server Error
java.lang.StackOverflowError
at com.evermind.server.http.EvermindHttpSession.removeValue(JAX)
at
com.evermind.server.http.ClusteredHttpSession.removeAttribute(JAX)
at com.evermind.server.http.EvermindHttpSession.removeValue(JAX)
at
com.evermind.server.http.ClusteredHttpSession.removeAttribute(JAX)
at com.evermind.server.http.EvermindHttpSession.removeValue(JAX)
at
com.evermind.server.http.ClusteredHttpSession.removeAttribute(JAX)
at com.evermind.server.http.EvermindHttpSession.removeValue(JAX)
at
com.evermind.server.http.ClusteredHttpSession.removeAttribute(JAX)
at com.evermind.server.http.EvermindHttpSession.removeValue(JAX)
at
com.evermind.server.http.ClusteredHttpSession.removeAttribute(JAX)
at com.evermind.server.http.EvermindHttpSession.removeValue(JAX)
at
com.evermind.server.http.ClusteredHttpSession.removeAttribute(JAX)
at com.evermind.server.http.EvermindHttpSession.removeValue(JAX)
at
com.evermind.server.http.ClusteredHttpSession.removeAttribute(JAX)
at com.evermind.server.http.EvermindHttpSession.removeValue(JAX)
at
com.evermind.server.http.ClusteredHttpSession.removeAttribute(JAX)
at com.evermind.server.http.EvermindHttpSession.removeValue(JAX)
at
com.evermind.server.http.ClusteredHttpSession.removeAttribute(JAX)
at com.evermind.server.http.EvermindHttpSession.removeValue(JAX)
at
com.evermind.server.http.ClusteredHttpSession.removeAttribute(JAX)
at com.evermind.server.http.EvermindHttpSession.removeValue(JAX)
at
com.evermind.server.http.ClusteredHttpSession.removeAttribute(JAX)
at com.evermind.server.http.EvermindHttpSession.removeValue(JAX)
at
com.evermind.server.http.ClusteredHttpSession.removeAttribute(JAX)
at com.evermind.server.http.EvermindHttpSession.removeValue(JAX)
... Continues ...
Can anyone help us with this problem? What can it be? Doesn't it seem
strange
that
Re: Orion in production
I doubt WebLogic and Orion compete against each other much. While you and I know that Orion's a capable server, for the business types Orion at US$1500/machine is a bit different from WebLogic's US$17000/cpu. Not to mention Netcraft's WebLogic results are skewed as a free hosting provider, NameZero, hosts 500,000 static html sites on it. Frank Eggink wrote: I don't know what's the downside of believing these statistics. On http://www.netcraft.com: click on 'what's that site running' click on 'help' click on 'range' click on 'Index' (of Sept 2000 of course) Hit Ctrl-F and search for orion. It tells you 1238 servers are running orion. (If you want your boss to go ahead with orion, don't show him number 5 on the list!) Frank On Friday, October 20, 2000 12:38 PM, Sven van 't Veer [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: "Juan Lorandi (Chile)" wrote: Hi! I have been using orion for about 6 months now, and now, as I'm finishing my app, I need to sell orion to my customers... For this, it would be *VERY* valuable to have a list of sites (on the internet or intranets) which use orion... So, basically, what I have in mind is that anybody on this list that wishes to report a site as being partiallly/fully powered by orion, report it to my email address, [EMAIL PROTECTED], so that I can make a list of these, to publish it on WWW I think this will prove useful for us all. www.cachoeiro.net www.snpc.com.br -- == Sven E. van 't Veer http://www.cachoeiro.net Java Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] == -- Jason Rimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Orion Powered Sites
Thanks a lot! The list has grown a lot - fixed the links, and so on... It still is at http://www.rifleman.com.ar/orionsites.htm And it still is at a freeservers site... I have contacted Joe Ottinger, and he has told me, he has nothing else to do at orionsupport.com... I'm working on an J2EE App to handle the list in a more flexible manner (I'm getting nuts trying to keep up with it!) Anyway, write me any thoughts, flames, etc. to MY email (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]), as an effort to keep the list unflooded TIA, Rifle
Orion powered sites - update
www.opengolf.com is running Orion/1.0.3 on NT4 using Sun's JDK 1.3 www.cachoeiro.net is running Orion/1.3.8 on Linux www.snpc.com.br is running Orion/1.3.8 on Linux www.redbull.com (de, nl, etc.) is running Orion/1.3.8 on Linux wap.hjemmenett.no is running Orion/0.8.4j on NT4 or Windows 98 www.javalobby.com - Running Orion/1.0.3 on Solaris www.vpro.nl - Running Orion/0.8.1n on Linux www.linuxtoday.com.au - Running Orion/1.3.8 on Linux www.headlinewatch.com - Running Orion/1.0.3 on Solaris news.partsbase.com - Running Orion/1.0.3 on Solaris australia.internet.com - Running Orion/1.3.8 on Linux www.yesitworks.com - Running Orion/1.1.9 on Solaris www.internetstockreport.com.au - Running Orion/1.3.8 on Linux www.e-mediamarketer.com.au - Running Orion/1.3.8 on Linux Changes: o Confirmation of RedBull sites o Confirmation of wap.hjemmenett.no o Addition of cachoeiro.net, snpc.com.br, and opengolf.com -- Jason Rimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cluster and session-attributes
- Original Message -
From: "Nicklas Andersson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
we have configured a cluster with the web-part over two machines.
They are placed on the same net with a load balancer which listens
to 172.23.20.58:100 and selects between
172.23.20.29:8090/172.23.20.58:8090.
They are in a so called cluster-island and everything goes just fine
with easy JSP- and HTML-pages. BUT... when it comes to sharing session and
their attributes something goes wrong when we do a
"session.removeAttribute("X");"
I've already reported it as a bug ( bugzilla no. 92 ). Fixed in 1.4.1
Mike
Re: Orion powered sites - update
You can add www.ants.com to that list: Orion 1.3.8 on Linux -joel shellman http://www.ants.com/ - Original Message - From: "Jason Rimmer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 10:13 AM Subject: Orion powered sites - update www.opengolf.com is running Orion/1.0.3 on NT4 using Sun's JDK 1.3 www.cachoeiro.net is running Orion/1.3.8 on Linux www.snpc.com.br is running Orion/1.3.8 on Linux www.redbull.com (de, nl, etc.) is running Orion/1.3.8 on Linux wap.hjemmenett.no is running Orion/0.8.4j on NT4 or Windows 98 www.javalobby.com - Running Orion/1.0.3 on Solaris www.vpro.nl - Running Orion/0.8.1n on Linux www.linuxtoday.com.au - Running Orion/1.3.8 on Linux www.headlinewatch.com - Running Orion/1.0.3 on Solaris news.partsbase.com - Running Orion/1.0.3 on Solaris australia.internet.com - Running Orion/1.3.8 on Linux www.yesitworks.com - Running Orion/1.1.9 on Solaris www.internetstockreport.com.au - Running Orion/1.3.8 on Linux www.e-mediamarketer.com.au - Running Orion/1.3.8 on Linux Changes: o Confirmation of RedBull sites o Confirmation of wap.hjemmenett.no o Addition of cachoeiro.net, snpc.com.br, and opengolf.com -- Jason Rimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
XML+XSL+Japanese Woes (and solution!)
Hello, all. Had a problem. Solved it. Now going to tell you about it =) Environment: Orion 1.3.8 using XML+JSP+XSL to generate HTML using XSLTServlet (from the old OrionSupport.com) with SAXON (and xerces/xalan whichever wasn't replaced) Problem: Japanese characters in an HTML form when passed to a servlet in Orion (and then put into a database) were garbled. Solution: I read in the FAQ about setting the default-charset in the orion-web.xml file.. but when we set this (to UTF-8) the whole xml+xsl chain broke down... but sometimes it DIDN'T break down and it would work... The problem was two things... first the jspcache was being kept if you just change the default-charset.. so if the pages were already generated... and Orion was NOW using the new charset.. then they worked.. But if you remove the cache and the pages are re-generated... the XML+XSL chain breaks.. and the user just gets fed the XML. Which is just wrong wrong wrong. =) This cache problem MAY or MAY NOT be a bug... I guess it is since changing the character set of the generated pages should cause them to be re-generated. Thoughts? We discovered the problem is that the servlet-chaining is based off of the mime-type for the in-progress generated page... before setting default-charset it was (text/xml) and the page was correctly passed to the XSL servlet... but after setting default-charset to UTF-8... the mime-type now appears as (text/xml;charset=utf-8) ... and is never passed to the XSL Servlet (since it doesn't match to one of the specified servlet chaining elements). The fix? Add a new servlet-chaining parameter to your global web application xml file like so : [ global-web-application.xml ] servlet-chaining servlet-name="xsl" mime-type="text/xml" / servlet-chaining servlet-name="xsl" mime-type="text/xml;charset=utf-8" / The first line already existed.. and the second one if for this new occurence.. you would add in whatever charset you are using... mind you this only applies if you are passing along to XSL of course =) Maybe I don't need two... and just a * would work. Eg: (text/xml*) ? Maybe I'll give it a try... The problem might be occuring since Orion passes the mime-type with the charset WITHOUT a space in between... and with a space it would still work fine. BUt I can't check this... A full day of hair pulling out finally figured out. Hope this can help someone else and prevent them from pre-mature baldness =) There are also about three or four other internationalization issues and problems that we solved.. but I thought I would mention this one since it relates to Orion. If you are having internationalization problems then maybe I can give you some advice. Thanks, Dylan Parker
How to recover from incorrect user password
Hello, I want to force the user to enter a username/password when using the application. When the application creates a new InitialContext, Orion prompts for a username/password. However, if the user enters an incorrect password, Orion correctly throws a Security exception. When the application attempts the process again, Orion does not prompt for a username/password but immediately throws a SecurityException. Is this a bug? On a related note, after obtaining an InitialContext, if the application closes it, and then tries to create another InitialContext, it gets a NPE. Is this related to the problem described above? Thanks, Vidur
RP: How to recover from incorrect user password
Sorry, I forgot to attach the stacktrace. Hello, I want to force the user to enter a username/password when using the application. When the application creates a new InitialContext, Orion prompts for a username/password. However, if the user enters an incorrect password, Orion correctly throws a Security exception. When the application attempts the process again, Orion does not prompt for a username/password but immediately throws a SecurityException. Is this a bug? On a related note, after obtaining an InitialContext, if the application closes it, and then tries to create another InitialContext, it gets a NPE. Is this related to the problem described above? Here's the stacktrace: java.lang.NullPointerException: at com.evermind.server.rmi.RMIInitialContextFactory.getInitialContext(JAX) at com.evermind.server.ApplicationClientInitialContextFactory.getInitialContext(JAX) at javax.naming.spi.NamingManager.getInitialContext(NamingManager.java:668) at javax.naming.InitialContext.getDefaultInitCtx(InitialContext.java:246) at javax.naming.InitialContext.init(InitialContext.java:222) at javax.naming.InitialContext.init(InitialContext.java:198) at com.epistemic.km.KMClient.getContext(KMClient.java:70) Thanks, Vidur
Re: Modified Servlets
Look in the global-web-application.xml for: orion-web-app jsp-cache-directory="./persistence" servlet-webdir="/servlet" development="true" If you set development=true Orion will not only pickup the change in the java source file but it will even recompile if for you. This really aids in development time in that it saves you a step within your editor. Otherwise I believe that Orion will always pick up a modified servlet. This may not be true for supporting classes. Somebody else mentioned touching a particular file to make the servlet engine pull the classes in again Cory At 09:33 AM 10/20/00 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To whom this may concern: What do I need to set in Orion to allow it to realize when a servlet has been modified that it should use that new version of the servlet. Thanks, Andy
Re: Orion Powered Sites
That's appreciated. If you'd like an Orion place to host the list, as well as other Orion materials, I'm game to set it up and run it. "Juan Lorandi (Chile)" wrote: Thanks a lot! The list has grown a lot - fixed the links, and so on... It still is at http://www.rifleman.com.ar/orionsites.htm And it still is at a freeservers site... I have contacted Joe Ottinger, and he has told me, he has nothing else to do at orionsupport.com... I'm working on an J2EE App to handle the list in a more flexible manner (I'm getting nuts trying to keep up with it!) Anyway, write me any thoughts, flames, etc. to MY email (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]), as an effort to keep the list unflooded TIA, Rifle -- Jason Rimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: EJB Help..
Thanks. I only meant to use the /classes folder because my ejb code is in the same project as the rest of my code (Servlets, javabeans, action classes, etc). Since it all compiles to the same one folder, I assume I will have to "move" the ejb compiled classes every time I compile them. What I was hoping for was a way to not have to do this..instead, just let the whole project compile to the WEB-INF/classes folder (all my code), and then have Orion pick up on the ejb changes from that point. It appears to me from what everyone is saying I will have to use some sort of script every time I make a change to an ejb, which my first thoughts is a pain in the ass. Its very easy to develop servlets, action classes, javabeans, core classes, but ejb not only requires 3 classes per component, but lots of "special" work just to get the thing deployed. Then, every time you make a change, it requires the same process. I would think turn-around time for ejb development is on the order of a couple of minutes for every change you make. That results in a lot slower development cycle than I am currently using. Worse, I have started hearing alot of people turn away from ejb and going back to servlets because of development time, and performance. Supposedly the ejb stuff isn't living up to all the hype. However, I look at what the ejb container does for you (connection pooling, transactions, security, instance pooling, etc) and it seems there is alot of stuff I wont have to do on the side of persistence, transactions and security..so maybe the extra time is worth it? ;) Anyways..I did as one person suggested in this list, I set up in my application.xml like so: module ejb/path/www/WEB-INF/classes//ejb /module and Orion seems to be finding the classes (the ejb). However, I keep seeing an error appear. It says something like: Error compiling class c:/path/www/WEB-INF/classes/ Login.java LoginBean.java LoginHome.java can't find method create()in LoginBean.java Its a very strange message to me. If I change the module path, it tells me it can't find the classes. If I delete the classes, it also tells me it can't find them. So I assume the path is set correctly in the module ejb tag..as it is finding the classes. I am just not sure why the heck its giving me some compiler error..or why its even trying to compile them..they are already compiled. Anyways..I'll keep plugging away. -Original Message- From: Stanislav Maximov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 6:34 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: EJB Help.. Kevin, look inside the news-application example bundled with Orion, lots of things will become clear for you after that. www-dir/WEB-INF/classes directory is for servlet classes, not for EJBs. You'll see how to deploy EJBs in that example and in documentation as well. stas@ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Duffey, Kevin Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 3:45 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: EJB Help.. Thanks for the note. One thing..since I compile all of my classes into the www/WEB-INF/classes dir, should I put a META-INF in the /classes dir, and just point the module to the WEB-INF/classes folder? Would that work? Not that I want you to tell me everything, ok..I do, but what exactly do I need to get EJB deployed in that way? My first stab that I want to do is create a login process. I would like to use statless session beans, and also use an entity bean..using CMP. I created 3 classes, Login, LoginBean and LoginHome. I have them in com.mycompany.ejb package. That compiles to www/WEB-INF/classes dir. So do I make application.xml like so: module/www/WEB-INF/classes/module where the com folder starts? Or do I actually have to point them directly to the .class files themselves? If the classes are compiled in a package, I assume I need to point the ejb module setting to the root package right? Furthermore, do I need that ejb.xml file in META-INF? If so, what should it be set to if I am using an expanded dir? Lastly, how the heck to I get the entity bean added..is that a forth class, or a whole set of 3 different classes, one being the entity bean, the other two being like the home and remote objects? It seems kind of silly that I would need 6 classes to do the login process..3 for the session/logic stuff, and 3 for the entity/database mapping. Thanks so much..I appreciate the help. -Original Message- From: Mike Cannon-Brookes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 3:39 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: EJB Help.. Kevin, With any *ar file in Orion, you can use a directory instead. eg module ejb./myejbs.jar/ejb /module can just be module ejb./myejbs/ejb /module where ./myejbs is a directory structure which
RE: Orion in production
Wow! That's pretty impressive results. What sort of hardware are you running? As my performance test showed, on a single PIII650 I was able to generate on average about 4.5million page hits a day (on a simple login process anyways). -Original Message- From: Holmes, George (TWIi London) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 1:14 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: Orion in production www.opengolf.com This is the official web site for the British Open Golf tournament. Did 30 million page impressions/day (ish) for the four days of the Open. George GEORGE HOLMES TWI Interactive Media House Burlington Lane LONDON W4 2TH ENGLAND TEL: +44 208 233 5631 FAX: +44 208 233 7701 CELL: +44 7968 918813 -Original Message- From: Juan Lorandi (Chile) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 October 2000 22:13 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Orion in production Hi! I have been using orion for about 6 months now, and now, as I'm finishing my app, I need to sell orion to my customers... For this, it would be *VERY* valuable to have a list of sites (on the internet or intranets) which use orion... So, basically, what I have in mind is that anybody on this list that wishes to report a site as being partiallly/fully powered by orion, report it to my email address, [EMAIL PROTECTED], so that I can make a list of these, to publish it on WWW I think this will prove useful for us all. TIA, JP
RE: EJB Help..
I think the thing I am looking for here is the same "ease of development" of servlets. I have a single project like so: com com/path com/path/core com/path/ejb com/path/ui com/path/ui/beans com/path/ui/actions com/path/ui/servlets com/path/ui/tags This is one project file (using Kawa 4.10). I then build the whole project and it all compiles to WEB-INF/classes. This is how we develop all of our code. So, Orion, using a web-app deployed to it, knows that all the classes are in WEB-INF/classes and finds them (with no classpath setting in the environment I might add!). What I am hoping to achieve is to somehow get the ejb deployment stuff to point to WEB-INF/classes/com/path/ejb to find all the ejbs, so that I can edit my code, compile the package (or the whole project) and Orion will pick up on them right away (or with a restart). This would all be done without me having to do anything extra, such as packaging the ejb into a .jar file, or having to specially compile the ejb package to a different dir, or having to move the ejb classes into a different folder! For the hell of it, I put a META-INF folder below the WEB-INF/classes where I put the ejb-jar.xml file, and Orion seems to be looking for the classes in the right place..which is what I want. I just get this error that I reported in a previous response to this list about this subject, and it appears it wont find the ejbs. Now, I used the Orion Primer and the Orion CMP Primer as examples, and the Orion Primer had nothing in the web.xml but the Orion CMP Primer did..it had an ejb-ref tag in it. I don't have this in my web.xml, so I am wondering if this is required, or why it is in the Orion CMP Primer, but not the Orion Primer web.xml example. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Juan Lorandi (Chile) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 2:03 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: EJB Help.. I acomplish this by simply: Creating a directory (in orion\applications) with the same name than the ear (directory: Test.ear) then there I put the contents of my .ear, then repeat the process for ejb-jar and war files... then, simply put your updated classes there(below your ejb-jar dir, like say orion\applications\Test.ear\ejb-jar-ic.jar to update the descriptor, use earassembler and open your .ear dir within orion\applications. Works great for me! HTH, JP -Original Message- From: Duffey, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Jueves, 19 de Octubre de 2000 16:37 To: Orion-Interest Subject: EJB Help.. Hi all, I am trying my hand at EJB with Orion, and I am wondering if there is any way to avoid the hassle of always having to package the ejb classes into a .jar file, and so on. Is there any way at all to develop and deploy ejbs using an expanded dir structure, much like in the development of a .war file..where you have the whole www dir, WEB-INF, etc expanded..but then jar it up and rename it to .war for deployment? It seems rather tedious on ejb development every time a change is made, the whole thing has to be repackaged and deployed. I know there are some tools, such as JBuilder, VisualCafe, etc that do this for you somewhat nicely..but even those take a little bit of time to do it. So, for the purposes of development, where many changes are happening on any regular basis, how can I quickly develop and test ejb, with Orion, or any app server for that matter. I do want the ability for the context.lookup() call to work. The reason is..I have two computers, networked. I want to develop the ejbs on one computer, and have my www stuff on the other hitting them over the network so that i can get some kind of feel of the performance. I have a 4-way switch, so I can develop www stuff, then switch over to the other computer and do some ejb stuff. I will run one instance of Orion on each computer. However, I don't mind also being able to run www and ejb stuff in the same on instance on one computer, as long as the lookup stuff is used the same way, even though the ejb's are running locally. Any pointers on how to set up Orion to do this, including the application.xml module tag (how to point it to the right place instead of the ejb.jar file, for example so that the ejbs will get picked up by the server), web.xml, orion-web.xml, server.xml, etc..anything that needs to be done to get this to work. Thanks so much for any help.
RE: Orion Powered Sites
We have gone production with our admin site, and about to cluster it too. Its running Win2K, JDK 1.3 and Orion 1.2.9. Runs smoothly, and very fast. The IBM NetFinity 4000r dual PIII550 with 512MB RAM and SCSI III RAID hds problably help! :) -Original Message- From: Alan Mc Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 4:14 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: Orion Powered Sites Has anybody gone to production with orion on Win 2000? Has anybody tried and failed ? Thanks, Alan. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 09:08 To: Orion-Interest Subject: SV: Orion Powered Sites wap.hjemmenett.no is running Orion 0.6.2 :) Klaus -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Jason Rimmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sendt: 20. oktober 2000 08:00 Til: Orion-Interest Emne: Re: Orion Powered Sites Results from NetCraft's "what's it running?" tool, http://www.netcraft.com: http://www.redbull.com - Unable to determine http://www.javalobby.com - Running Orion/1.0.3 on Solaris http://www.vpro.nl - Running Orion/0.8.1n on Linux http://www.linuxtoday.com.au - Running Orion/1.3.8 on Linux http://wap.hjemmenett.no - Unable to determine http://www.headlinewatch.com - Running Orion/1.0.3 on Solaris http://news.partsbase.com - Running Orion/1.0.3 on Solaris http://australia.internet.com - Running Orion/1.3.8 on Linux http://www.yesitworks.com - Running Orion/1.1.9 on Solaris http://www.internetstockreport.com.au - Running Orion/1.3.8 on Linux http://www.e-mediamarketer.com.au - Running Orion/1.3.8 on Linux -- Jason Rimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Gordon Sell" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 10:27 PM Subject: Re: Orion Powered Sites Try these(they are from the orion site) http://www.redbull.com http://www.javalobby.com http://www.vpro.nl http://www.linuxtoday.com.au http://wap.hjemmenett.no http://www.headlinewatch.com http://news.partsbase.com http://australia.internet.com http://www.yesitworks.com http://www.internetstockreport.com.au http://www.e-mediamarketer.com.au Cheers Gordon
URL Pathing
Ok, I've spent the last week converting an ecomerce system I developed, using Resin as my webserver, to allow it to run on Orion because Orion is the only web server that assumes a '/' means to begin the path search from the application context root rather than the current directory. Now I find that it may not always be the case. In this particular application, I pop up a sub window within my current browser window and from that sub window, redirect to another another page within the main browser window and close the sub-window. When I attempt to use the '/' for my starting reference, Orion now thinks that I'm referencing the server root directory. When I try to add the application context to my url, it then attempts to redirect my request to the application context, within the application context. Is this a bug? It is really confusing on how this server executes requests. Thanks, Andy
Do EJB 2.0 dependent object classes work as per the spec?
Hi All... I'm just wondering if dependent object classes in Orion 1.4.0 work as laid out in the EJB 2.0 PD2 spec. I have been trying to get it to work as the spec says but have gotton a number of errors from Orion when I start it, mostly complaining that the get/set methods for the dependent object class in the EJB should not be declared abstract, which they clearly must be per the spec. I looked at the ATM example, and saw that the LogEntry dependent object class is serializable and set up as a CMP field of an entity. Also, it declares the deepCopy method, all of which is worng for EJB 2.0 PD2. But its methods are abstract, which is right for 2.0. So I'm just wondering if anyone has gotton it to work as per the spec. If so, I'll keep trying. If anyone knows that it does not work, I would appreciate knowing, so I can stop beating my head against the brick wall. If it works kinda-sorta with tricks, what are the tricks? Thanks very much... Jim
RE: EJB Help..
I just have my ejb classes in their own directory: ear/ejb/source ear/web/WEB-INF/classes I have a makefile in the /ear directory that recompiles all the servlets and ejb. I do have to restart the application after changes to the EJBs. -Original Message- From: Duffey, Kevin [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: October 20, 2000 2:17 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: EJB Help.. Thanks. I only meant to use the /classes folder because my ejb code is in the same project as the rest of my code (Servlets, javabeans, action classes, etc). Since it all compiles to the same one folder, I assume I will have to "move" the ejb compiled classes every time I compile them. What I was hoping for was a way to not have to do this..instead, just let the whole project compile to the WEB-INF/classes folder (all my code), and then have Orion pick up on the ejb changes from that point. It appears to me from what everyone is saying I will have to use some sort of script every time I make a change to an ejb, which my first thoughts is a pain in the ass. Its very easy to develop servlets, action classes, javabeans, core classes, but ejb not only requires 3 classes per component, but lots of "special" work just to get the thing deployed. Then, every time you make a change, it requires the same process. I would think turn-around time for ejb development is on the order of a couple of minutes for every change you make. That results in a lot slower development cycle than I am currently using. Worse, I have started hearing alot of people turn away from ejb and going back to servlets because of development time, and performance. Supposedly the ejb stuff isn't living up to all the hype. However, I look at what the ejb container does for you (connection pooling, transactions, security, instance pooling, etc) and it seems there is alot of stuff I wont have to do on the side of persistence, transactions and security..so maybe the extra time is worth it? ;) Anyways..I did as one person suggested in this list, I set up in my application.xml like so: module ejb/path/www/WEB-INF/classes//ejb /module and Orion seems to be finding the classes (the ejb). However, I keep seeing an error appear. It says something like: Error compiling class c:/path/www/WEB-INF/classes/ Login.java LoginBean.java LoginHome.java can't find method create()in LoginBean.java Its a very strange message to me. If I change the module path, it tells me it can't find the classes. If I delete the classes, it also tells me it can't find them. So I assume the path is set correctly in the module ejb tag..as it is finding the classes. I am just not sure why the heck its giving me some compiler error..or why its even trying to compile them..they are already compiled. Anyways..I'll keep plugging away. -Original Message- From: Stanislav Maximov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 6:34 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: EJB Help.. Kevin, look inside the news-application example bundled with Orion, lots of things will become clear for you after that. www-dir/WEB-INF/classes directory is for servlet classes, not for EJBs. You'll see how to deploy EJBs in that example and in documentation as well. stas@ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Duffey, Kevin Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 3:45 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: EJB Help.. Thanks for the note. One thing..since I compile all of my classes into the www/WEB-INF/classes dir, should I put a META-INF in the /classes dir, and just point the module to the WEB-INF/classes folder? Would that work? Not that I want you to tell me everything, ok..I do, but what exactly do I need to get EJB deployed in that way? My first stab that I want to do is create a login process. I would like to use statless session beans, and also use an entity bean..using CMP. I created 3 classes, Login, LoginBean and LoginHome. I have them in com.mycompany.ejb package. That compiles to www/WEB-INF/classes dir. So do I make application.xml like so: module/www/WEB-INF/classes/module where the com folder starts? Or do I actually have to point them directly to the .class files themselves? If the classes are compiled in a package, I assume I need to point the ejb module setting to the root package right? Furthermore, do I need that ejb.xml file in META-INF? If so, what should it be set to if I am using an expanded dir? Lastly, how the heck to I get the entity bean added..is that a forth class, or a whole set of 3 different classes, one being the entity bean, the other two being like the home and remote objects? It seems kind of silly that I would need 6 classes to do the login process..3 for the session/logic stuff,
RE: Orion in production
I would say..Orion has almost no publicity other than word of mouth right now. Orion is just starting out compared to WebLogic, IIS, and what not. Give them some time..people are reluctant to turn to a small company with such a cheap price. I hate to say it, and I hope they don't change their price, but believe it or not, if Orion raised its license price to say $10,000 per server (hopefully not cpu), they might actually get more interest. I think there is still a lot of testing and what not to do before they should do that, if they even want to. Quite frankly, I like what they are doing. They offer a kick-ass server for a affordable price..very good for small to medium sized companies to use. There are a LOT more small to medium sized companies than big companies, so even if they are 1/10th the price (or 1/40th if you compare 4 cpu servers), I would be that the Orion team will see a lot of sales in the small/medium market, which could actually give them alot more money in the bank. On top of that, I don't know how many people Orion employs, but I know WebLogic is over 1500 people, large facility, etc. WebLogic spends a hell of a lot more on salaries, travel expenses, marketing, etc. In my opinion..maybe its just me, but I trust Orion or Apache over the big names. Plus..as I said, I can't start up my own company using WebLogic. I can with Orion. Better yet, Orion has thus far beat the hell out of every major (and as far as I can tell..every small) vendor of app servers (J2EE supporters I should say) as far as staying ahead of the ballgame, offering great performance, the best J2EE support, and the easiest to set up. I played around with WebLogic for two weeks (on and off) and still couldn't get my simple JSP page to show up. WebSphere was a nightmare, and while Resin was easy to work with, its not a full J2EE app server. IIS is easy enough, but its not J2EE, so fork that choice. JRun sucks..we have used it, tried JRun 3.0 and were not happy with it. SilverStream had nothing fancy in my opinion..they are in the same boat as IBM WebSphere..about a year late for the full J2EE support. I can't even believe IBM WebSphere still doesn't support Servlet 2.2 and JSP 1.1! I don't care how many billions you put into your software..if it doesn't even meet the standards that have been in place for almost a year now..it sure doesn't say a lot to me that the money is being spent in the right places! OAS..well, I have heard nothing but bad things about Oracles solution, and this coming from some neigbors that develop the Oracle software! Meanwhile, you have little itty bitty Orion (Ok..they are big to me! ;) over here support EJB 2.0, Servlet 2.3, full J2EE support, clusterable, easy to set up, fast, etc.. I sound like I am a sales man for Orion, but you know..I tend to read up and test alot of the latest stuff and Orion kicks the competitions ass hands down. Maybe if JRun, or someone else came out with much better products I would be on those mailing lists. I just don't see that happening. Ok..I went off..sorry. Go with Orion! -Original Message- From: Frank Eggink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 5:09 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: Orion in production I don't know what's the downside of believing these statistics. On http://www.netcraft.com: click on 'what's that site running' click on 'help' click on 'range' click on 'Index' (of Sept 2000 of course) Hit Ctrl-F and search for orion. It tells you 1238 servers are running orion. (If you want your boss to go ahead with orion, don't show him number 5 on the list!) Frank On Friday, October 20, 2000 12:38 PM, Sven van 't Veer [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: "Juan Lorandi (Chile)" wrote: Hi! I have been using orion for about 6 months now, and now, as I'm finishing my app, I need to sell orion to my customers... For this, it would be *VERY* valuable to have a list of sites (on the internet or intranets) which use orion... So, basically, what I have in mind is that anybody on this list that wishes to report a site as being partiallly/fully powered by orion, report it to my email address, [EMAIL PROTECTED], so that I can make a list of these, to publish it on WWW I think this will prove useful for us all. www.cachoeiro.net www.snpc.com.br -- == Sven E. van 't Veer http://www.cachoeiro.net Java Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==
Re: EJB Help..
the same process. I would think turn-around time for ejb development is on the order of a couple of minutes for every change you make. That results in a lot slower development cycle than I am currently using. Today, I have been making changes to my ejbs, compling them, "touch"ing (ie. resaving so it's modification date is newer) the application.xml file, and instantly Orion redeploys and I can retest. The process takes a matter of seconds. on the side of persistence, transactions and security..so maybe the extra time is worth it? ;) There is some ramp up, but once you get used to it, it's not really that much slower, if it is at all. ejb/path/www/WEB-INF/classes//ejb Error compiling class c:/path/www/WEB-INF/classes/ Login.java LoginBean.java LoginHome.java can't find method create()in LoginBean.java Double check your ejb-jar.xml--are you setting LoginHome as your Home interface in there? Is there a LoginHome.create() method declared? Is there a LoginBean.ejbCreate() method defined? -joel shellman http://www.ants.com/
deploy EJB without using .ear file
HI all I am new to orion, and have been trying to deploy my sample bean (in sample-ejb.jar) onto orion, following the orion-primer tutorial. Basically, I jar the sample-ejb.jar file and an application.xml file into the sample.ear file. Then I deploy the .ear file by adding the following line to the server.xml file: application name="sample" path="..the path.." / It works, but I am not sure it is the appropriate way to do it. What I mean is that is there any way I can deploy my sample-ejb.jar directly without jaring it further into the .ear file, and depoly the sample-ejb.jar directly onto orion? Thanks a lot.
RE: Orion in production
I would like to ammend my previous post. I don't actually know if Orion has marketing/publicity, and I am not in a position to say they are just starting out. I apologize if I spoke with my head up my rear..I believe my intention was to hype up Orion for all the hard work the team has done to give us a great product, not to make it sound like they are a small company. My point being, I had a very difficult time getting my boss to go with Orion over WebLogic, and even so he still wants to use WebLogic, we just don't want to spend the money right now. Alot of companies for some reason feel the name is bigger than the actual work behind it. It sucks..but that appears to be the way alot of business run. When you have a VC give you $72 million as we have received in the past year, its hard to use a product nobody is familiar with, over one that is touted the best, even if the price costs 10 to 20 times more. I of all people have had a hard time trying to understand why our company would want to waste so much money on a proudct that isn't even on par with the standards (as they claim to be) as Orion is. Anyways..Just wanted to clear that up incase I got some people thinking Orion is small. In actuality, they are big, and they will get bigger! -Original Message- From: Duffey, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 12:05 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: Orion in production I would say..Orion has almost no publicity other than word of mouth right now. Orion is just starting out compared to WebLogic, IIS, and what not. Give them some time..people are reluctant to turn to a small company with such a cheap price. I hate to say it, and I hope they don't change their price, but believe it or not, if Orion raised its license price to say $10,000 per server (hopefully not cpu), they might actually get more interest. I think there is still a lot of testing and what not to do before they should do that, if they even want to. Quite frankly, I like what they are doing. They offer a kick-ass server for a affordable price..very good for small to medium sized companies to use. There are a LOT more small to medium sized companies than big companies, so even if they are 1/10th the price (or 1/40th if you compare 4 cpu servers), I would be that the Orion team will see a lot of sales in the small/medium market, which could actually give them alot more money in the bank. On top of that, I don't know how many people Orion employs, but I know WebLogic is over 1500 people, large facility, etc. WebLogic spends a hell of a lot more on salaries, travel expenses, marketing, etc. In my opinion..maybe its just me, but I trust Orion or Apache over the big names. Plus..as I said, I can't start up my own company using WebLogic. I can with Orion. Better yet, Orion has thus far beat the hell out of every major (and as far as I can tell..every small) vendor of app servers (J2EE supporters I should say) as far as staying ahead of the ballgame, offering great performance, the best J2EE support, and the easiest to set up. I played around with WebLogic for two weeks (on and off) and still couldn't get my simple JSP page to show up. WebSphere was a nightmare, and while Resin was easy to work with, its not a full J2EE app server. IIS is easy enough, but its not J2EE, so fork that choice. JRun sucks..we have used it, tried JRun 3.0 and were not happy with it. SilverStream had nothing fancy in my opinion..they are in the same boat as IBM WebSphere..about a year late for the full J2EE support. I can't even believe IBM WebSphere still doesn't support Servlet 2.2 and JSP 1.1! I don't care how many billions you put into your software..if it doesn't even meet the standards that have been in place for almost a year now..it sure doesn't say a lot to me that the money is being spent in the right places! OAS..well, I have heard nothing but bad things about Oracles solution, and this coming from some neigbors that develop the Oracle software! Meanwhile, you have little itty bitty Orion (Ok..they are big to me! ;) over here support EJB 2.0, Servlet 2.3, full J2EE support, clusterable, easy to set up, fast, etc.. I sound like I am a sales man for Orion, but you know..I tend to read up and test alot of the latest stuff and Orion kicks the competitions ass hands down. Maybe if JRun, or someone else came out with much better products I would be on those mailing lists. I just don't see that happening. Ok..I went off..sorry. Go with Orion! -Original Message- From: Frank Eggink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 5:09 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: Orion in production I don't know what's the downside of believing these statistics. On http://www.netcraft.com: click on 'what's that site running' click on 'help' click on 'range' click on 'Index' (of
Re: Modified Servlets
Thank you very much
RE: EJB Help..
And you're probably on unix or using ANT. When you start adding EJBs you start to think about using ANT or some other "make" like tool as you have to do more.
RE: Modified Servlets
Go to /orion-install-dir/application-deployments/app-name/web-app-name/orion-web .xml This file looks something like so: ?xml version="1.0"? !DOCTYPE orion-web-app PUBLIC "-//Evermind//DTD Orion Web Application 2.3//EN" "http://www.orionserver.com/dtds/orion-web.dtd" orion-web-app deployment-version="1.3.7" development="true" jsp-cache-directory="./persistence" temporary-directory="./temp" servlet-webdir="/servlet/" session-tracking autoencode-absolute-urls="true" / /orion-web-app See the development="true" up there..thats a good thing. The next thing you need to do is add a source-directory="/path/" below the development (Actually..anywhere..but inside the orion-web-app/orion-web-app tag. Set the path to your hd:/path/dir. For example, I have my source code in c:\applications\app-name\source\code\com\company-name\ui\ etc. I would set the tag like so: orion-web-app deployment-version="1.3.7" development="true" source-directory="c:\applications\app-name\source\code\" jsp-cache-directory="./persistence" temporary-directory="./temp" servlet-webdir="/servlet/" That will not only reload your servlet, but ANY source you have. It basically is a 1 to 1 with your .java files in the source directory to your .class compiled files in the WEB-INF/classes dir. Infact, although I haven't been able to fully test this, Orion should pick up any changes you make to the .java file, and compile it and deploy it for you..but I am not sure about the compiling part. I generally edit a source, save it, compile it, and Orion picks it up..redploys the app for me. There is, however a VERY important point to keep in mind. Make sure ANY (and I do mean ANY) objects that are going to be stored in the HttpSession implement the Serializable interface properly. When Orion redeploys a web-app for you, it saves the http session objects (persists them), reloads all the classes, then loads the objects back into the HttpSession for you. This way, your app keeps its state across redployments. This is also how it works for restarts of the server. You can restart the server (while in production) and all data in the HttpSession should be serialized out to disk, then reloaded as soon as the server is started, so that if someone was logged in to your site, for example, they would still be logged in. However, you shouldn't ever need to restart the server if your code is done right (serialization, etc). To whom this may concern: What do I need to set in Orion to allow it to realize when a servlet has been modified that it should use that new version of the servlet. Thanks, Andy
RE: Orion in production
I completly agree with your posts, but I beg I'm allowed to differ in one thing... Big Companies don't make enterprises like Evermind or BEA Systems rich... directly... But these BIG names make for BIG hype... as you're well aware of; That's why your boss thinks Weblogic is the way to go... That's why I have requested data to make the OPS list... And also, lack of support documentation is becoming now, as most developers are finishing their work and reach deployment time(from what I pick up of many mails in this list), a critical point about orion. Many of us are reaching the point where we have to prove no only that orion's the best, but that it also is a good business choice. This is unfairly hard due to little colaboration from Evermind's team regarding, as said, support documentation, tough it clearly seems to be changing. Perhaps its time for a change(and I hope it's a change that will keep my sorry a~s working with Orion ;-) JP -Original Message- From: Duffey, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Viernes, 20 de Octubre de 2000 16:27 To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: Orion in production Importance: High I would like to ammend my previous post. I don't actually know if Orion has marketing/publicity, and I am not in a position to say they are just starting out. I apologize if I spoke with my head up my rear..I believe my intention was to hype up Orion for all the hard work the team has done to give us a great product, not to make it sound like they are a small company. My point being, I had a very difficult time getting my boss to go with Orion over WebLogic, and even so he still wants to use WebLogic, we just don't want to spend the money right now. Alot of companies for some reason feel the name is bigger than the actual work behind it. It sucks..but that appears to be the way alot of business run. When you have a VC give you $72 million as we have received in the past year, its hard to use a product nobody is familiar with, over one that is touted the best, even if the price costs 10 to 20 times more. I of all people have had a hard time trying to understand why our company would want to waste so much money on a proudct that isn't even on par with the standards (as they claim to be) as Orion is. Anyways..Just wanted to clear that up incase I got some people thinking Orion is small. In actuality, they are big, and they will get bigger! -Original Message- From: Duffey, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 12:05 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: Orion in production I would say..Orion has almost no publicity other than word of mouth right now. Orion is just starting out compared to WebLogic, IIS, and what not. Give them some time..people are reluctant to turn to a small company with such a cheap price. I hate to say it, and I hope they don't change their price, but believe it or not, if Orion raised its license price to say $10,000 per server (hopefully not cpu), they might actually get more interest. I think there is still a lot of testing and what not to do before they should do that, if they even want to. Quite frankly, I like what they are doing. They offer a kick-ass server for a affordable price..very good for small to medium sized companies to use. There are a LOT more small to medium sized companies than big companies, so even if they are 1/10th the price (or 1/40th if you compare 4 cpu servers), I would be that the Orion team will see a lot of sales in the small/medium market, which could actually give them alot more money in the bank. On top of that, I don't know how many people Orion employs, but I know WebLogic is over 1500 people, large facility, etc. WebLogic spends a hell of a lot more on salaries, travel expenses, marketing, etc. In my opinion..maybe its just me, but I trust Orion or Apache over the big names. Plus..as I said, I can't start up my own company using WebLogic. I can with Orion. Better yet, Orion has thus far beat the hell out of every major (and as far as I can tell..every small) vendor of app servers (J2EE supporters I should say) as far as staying ahead of the ballgame, offering great performance, the best J2EE support, and the easiest to set up. I played around with WebLogic for two weeks (on and off) and still couldn't get my simple JSP page to show up. WebSphere was a nightmare, and while Resin was easy to work with, its not a full J2EE app server. IIS is easy enough, but its not J2EE, so fork that choice. JRun sucks..we have used it, tried JRun 3.0 and were not happy with it. SilverStream had nothing fancy in my opinion..they are in the same boat as IBM WebSphere..about a year late for the full J2EE support. I can't even believe IBM WebSphere still doesn't support Servlet 2.2 and JSP 1.1! I don't care how many billions you put into your software..if it doesn't even meet the standards that have been in place for almost a
Re: URL Pathing
to my understanding, with sendRedirect(), orion always interprets a starting "/" as relative to the current web app. All other servers take it relative to the default web app (= server document root). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Freitag, 20. Oktober 2000 23:45 Subject: URL Pathing Ok, I've spent the last week converting an ecomerce system I developed, using Resin as my webserver, to allow it to run on Orion because Orion is the only web server that assumes a '/' means to begin the path search from the application context root rather than the current directory. Now I find that it may not always be the case. In this particular application, I pop up a sub window within my current browser window and from that sub window, redirect to another another page within the main browser window and close the sub-window. When I attempt to use the '/' for my starting reference, Orion now thinks that I'm referencing the server root directory. When I try to add the application context to my url, it then attempts to redirect my request to the application context, within the application context. Is this a bug? It is really confusing on how this server executes requests. Thanks, Andy
RE: Do EJB 2.0 dependent object classes work as per the spec?
Thanks, Tim. I do have that tag in place. I'll have to review PD1 and see how dependent objects work under that spec. Hopefully, there are not huge differences. Jim --On Friday, October 20, 2000 4:29 PM -0400 Tim Drury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was getting the same thing until I added cmp-version2.x/cmp-version to the entity area. You don't need the ejb2 DTD. -tim -Original Message- From: Jim Archer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 2:54 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Do EJB 2.0 dependent object classes work as per the spec? Hi All... I'm just wondering if dependent object classes in Orion 1.4.0 work as laid out in the EJB 2.0 PD2 spec. I have been trying to get it to work as the spec says but have gotton a number of errors from Orion when I start it, mostly complaining that the get/set methods for the dependent object class in the EJB should not be declared abstract, which they clearly must be per the spec. I looked at the ATM example, and saw that the LogEntry dependent object class is serializable and set up as a CMP field of an entity. Also, it declares the deepCopy method, all of which is worng for EJB 2.0 PD2. But its methods are abstract, which is right for 2.0. So I'm just wondering if anyone has gotton it to work as per the spec. If so, I'll keep trying. If anyone knows that it does not work, I would appreciate knowing, so I can stop beating my head against the brick wall. If it works kinda-sorta with tricks, what are the tricks? Thanks very much... Jim
RE: Remote object callback from a session bean
Message Beans, regretably, they're only a public draft at this moment, tough orion already provides some support for them -Original Message- From: John D'Ausilio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Viernes, 20 de Octubre de 2000 17:22 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Remote object callback from a session bean Tell me if I'm insane or not ... I have a session bean, and one of the services it provides is a long-running process which needs to inform the object on whose behalf it is running when various events occur. 1. Client gets the session bean and calls createProcess(processID, this) ... passing itself along 2. Session bean does it's thing, create a process and gives it the client object reference 3. As the process processes, at various points it calls receiveEvent() on the client object reference Seems to me that this should be feasible using standard RMI stuff .. I made an interface extending Remote that exposes the receiveEvent call, made the client class extend UnicastRemoteObject, and ran rmic on the class to generate a stub. The stub source looks sensible. Everything actually runs without error, but the client callback never gets executed and the client finishes but never terminates, as there are a couple of RMI-related threads that never die. I've successfully tested some vanilla RMI stuff and made remote object calls, but I had to create a .java.policy file. Is there some equivalent mechanism that needs to be set up for Orion? Has anyone tried anything this funky? Is there an easier/saner way to do this? Thanks! jd
RE: Remote object callback from a session bean
Actually, I'm using message-driven beans successfully in this same system. Unfortunately, it dosn't really help here .. if I use a message-driven bean, then *it* will have to do the callback to the client code (which likely will not work in the same fashion) .. and the client itself can't be a message bean because you can't have regular 'session bean' type methods on it .. only the message handling stuff. jd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Juan Lorandi (Chile) Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 5:54 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: Remote object callback from a session bean Message Beans, regretably, they're only a public draft at this moment, tough orion already provides some support for them -Original Message- From: John D'Ausilio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Viernes, 20 de Octubre de 2000 17:22 To: Orion-Interest Subject: Remote object callback from a session bean Tell me if I'm insane or not ... I have a session bean, and one of the services it provides is a long-running process which needs to inform the object on whose behalf it is running when various events occur. 1. Client gets the session bean and calls createProcess(processID, this) ... passing itself along 2. Session bean does it's thing, create a process and gives it the client object reference 3. As the process processes, at various points it calls receiveEvent() on the client object reference Seems to me that this should be feasible using standard RMI stuff .. I made an interface extending Remote that exposes the receiveEvent call, made the client class extend UnicastRemoteObject, and ran rmic on the class to generate a stub. The stub source looks sensible. Everything actually runs without error, but the client callback never gets executed and the client finishes but never terminates, as there are a couple of RMI-related threads that never die. I've successfully tested some vanilla RMI stuff and made remote object calls, but I had to create a .java.policy file. Is there some equivalent mechanism that needs to be set up for Orion? Has anyone tried anything this funky? Is there an easier/saner way to do this? Thanks! jd
Re: EJB 2.0 1-1 mapping entity-depobj problem
Thank you very much. That was indeed the problem. -joel - Original Message - From: "Kris Keener" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 6:10 AM Subject: Re: EJB 2.0 1-1 mapping entity-depobj problem Joel, Did you declare "prefs" as a cmp-field in the entity declaration? For example: entity ... cmp-field field-nameprefs/field-name /cmp-field ... /entity I was getting the same exception until I made the above change. --- Joel Shellman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I get the following error during deployment: "Method public abstract CP CB.getPrefs() can not be declared abstract" relationships ejb-relation ejb-relation-nameC-CP/ejb-relation-name ejb-relationship-role ejb-relationship-role-namec-p/ejb-relationship-role-name multiplicityone/multiplicity role-source ejb-nameC/ejb-name /role-source cmr-field cmr-field-nameprefs/cmr-field-name cmr-field-typeCP/cmr-field-type /cmr-field /ejb-relationship-role ejb-relationship-role ejb-relationship-role-namecontactprefs-belongs-to-contact/ejb-relationshi p-role-name multiplicityone/multiplicity role-source dependent-nameCP/dependent-name /role-source /ejb-relationship-role /ejb-relation /relationships In the CP bean, I have: public abstract CP getprefs(); What's wrong with that? Thanks, Joel Shellman __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/
Re: EJB 2.0 1-1 mapping entity-depobj problem
I'm seeing a lot of conflicting views about that on this list. Is that supposed to be in the orion-ejb-jar.xml file or the ejb-jar.xml file? I have not put that in anywhere, but things seem to be working fine (did a few 1:1 dep obj's today). Why are some people saying that is required? Is it required in the orion-ejb-jar.xml file? If so, that would make a little more sense as we didn't write our own one yet, just relied on Orion doing that for us at this stage. Thanks, -joel shellman - Original Message - From: "Tim Drury" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Orion-Interest" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 7:29 AM Subject: RE: EJB 2.0 1-1 mapping entity-depobj problem I had to put in cmp-version2.x/cmp-version in the entity area for my ejb2.0 stuff to be recognized by Orion. I did NOT need the 2.0 DTD. -tim -Original Message- From: Joel Shellman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 6:00 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: EJB 2.0 1-1 mapping entity-depobj problem I get the following error during deployment: "Method public abstract CP CB.getPrefs() can not be declared abstract" relationships ejb-relation ejb-relation-nameC-CP/ejb-relation-name ejb-relationship-role ejb-relationship-role-namec-p/ejb-relationship-role-name multiplicityone/multiplicity role-source ejb-nameC/ejb-name /role-source cmr-field cmr-field-nameprefs/cmr-field-name cmr-field-typeCP/cmr-field-type /cmr-field /ejb-relationship-role ejb-relationship-role ejb-relationship-role-namecontactprefs-belongs-to-contact/e jb-relationshi p-role-name multiplicityone/multiplicity role-source dependent-nameCP/dependent-name /role-source /ejb-relationship-role /ejb-relation /relationships In the CP bean, I have: public abstract CP getprefs(); What's wrong with that? Thanks, Joel Shellman
RE: Orion in production - Let's sell support!
Hello all... --On Friday, October 20, 2000 5:35 PM -0300 "Juan Lorandi (Chile)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And also, lack of support documentation is becoming now, as most developers are finishing their work and reach deployment time(from what I pick up of many mails in this list), a critical point about orion. Many of us are reaching the point where we have to prove no only that orion's the best, but that it also is a good business choice. This is unfairly hard due to little colaboration from Evermind's team regarding, as said, support documentation, tough it clearly seems to be changing. This is a key issue. There is an old saying that time is money. Not true in software. Time is far more valuable than money. Money can be raised but time can not. Orion is reasonably priced for the product itself. However, if using Orion means a lot of trial and error development and no official support from the vendor, the costs in extra consumption of developers time and oppertunity loss from delayed market entry could easily exceed the price tag of Weblogic. Don't get me wrong, I like Orion. I like it alot. Currently, our intention is to complete development on it and then license it and deploy with it and hopefully sell it with our product. This goal would be one heck of a lot easier to obtain if we had official support from the vendor. Right now, there are people here banging their heads on the wall just trying to guess at what works and what dossen't, whats implemented and whats not. It's tireing. Anybody want to help me start a business selling Orion support on a 900 number? Just charge several dollars a minute, on an incident by incident basis. If the support is competant, it would sell big. Heck, we could make more money then Evermind! Big Grin OK, just kidding, but this is a serious issue. Jim
RE: EJB Help..
What types of relationships do you feel EJB 2.0 can't adequately support? I have been studying 2.0 CMP carefully, and it seems to be quite powerfull. There may be holes in it, but it can handle the majority of real works cases. Jim --On Friday, October 20, 2000 12:28 PM -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you don't use an object-relational mapping tool you're still in for a lot of hurt with EJB if you have a complex data model. I don't think CMP really addresses the kind of data models large systems have. Nor does the relationship support in EJB 2.0 either. I think you'll end up doing JDBC BMP with your Session and Entity beans. Performance is only an issue when you make everything a stateful session bean or an entity bean. There are rules for when it's appropriate to make things entity beans. There still isn't a whole lot of useful information around on design EJBs yet though with most of it only explaining the basics including the ORA book. On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Duffey, Kevin wrote: Thanks. I only meant to use the /classes folder because my ejb code is in the same project as the rest of my code (Servlets, javabeans, action classes, etc). Since it all compiles to the same one folder, I assume I will have to "move" the ejb compiled classes every time I compile them. What I was hoping for was a way to not have to do this..instead, just let the whole project compile to the WEB-INF/classes folder (all my code), and then have Orion pick up on the ejb changes from that point. It appears to me from what everyone is saying I will have to use some sort of script every time I make a change to an ejb, which my first thoughts is a pain in the ass. Its very easy to develop servlets, action classes, javabeans, core classes, but ejb not only requires 3 classes per component, but lots of "special" work just to get the thing deployed. Then, every time you make a change, it requires the same process. I would think turn-around time for ejb development is on the order of a couple of minutes for every change you make. That results in a lot slower development cycle than I am currently using. Worse, I have started hearing alot of people turn away from ejb and going back to servlets because of development time, and performance. Supposedly the ejb stuff isn't living up to all the hype. However, I look at what the ejb container does for you (connection pooling, transactions, security, instance pooling, etc) and it seems there is alot of stuff I wont have to do on the side of persistence, transactions and security..so maybe the extra time is worth it? ;) Anyways..I did as one person suggested in this list, I set up in my application.xml like so: module ejb/path/www/WEB-INF/classes//ejb /module and Orion seems to be finding the classes (the ejb). However, I keep seeing an error appear. It says something like: Error compiling class c:/path/www/WEB-INF/classes/ Login.java LoginBean.java LoginHome.java can't find method create()in LoginBean.java Its a very strange message to me. If I change the module path, it tells me it can't find the classes. If I delete the classes, it also tells me it can't find them. So I assume the path is set correctly in the module ejb tag..as it is finding the classes. I am just not sure why the heck its giving me some compiler error..or why its even trying to compile them..they are already compiled. Anyways..I'll keep plugging away. -Original Message- From: Stanislav Maximov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 6:34 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: EJB Help.. Kevin, look inside the news-application example bundled with Orion, lots of things will become clear for you after that. www-dir/WEB-INF/classes directory is for servlet classes, not for EJBs. You'll see how to deploy EJBs in that example and in documentation as well. stas@ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Duffey, Kevin Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 3:45 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: EJB Help.. Thanks for the note. One thing..since I compile all of my classes into the www/WEB-INF/classes dir, should I put a META-INF in the /classes dir, and just point the module to the WEB-INF/classes folder? Would that work? Not that I want you to tell me everything, ok..I do, but what exactly do I need to get EJB deployed in that way? My first stab that I want to do is create a login process. I would like to use statless session beans, and also use an entity bean..using CMP. I created 3 classes, Login, LoginBean and LoginHome. I have them in com.mycompany.ejb package. That compiles to www/WEB-INF/classes dir. So do I make application.xml like so: module/www/WEB-INF/classes/module where the com folder starts? Or do I actually have to point them directly to the .class files
RE: EJB Help..
Kevin, your "Home interface" class, the LoginHome object, should have a create() method. In fact, you can have several create methods if you like, each with a different parameter list (yes, you can have no create methids, but thats a special case no relevant here). The Orion primer does show a create method. Check out steps 4 and 5. Look for helloHome.create(). Once you have gotton an instance of your home interface object, you call its create method and it returnes to you an instance of your EJB's remote interface. As for compiling, In EJB 1.1 Orion has to generate the RMI stubs and skeletons for your classes and it has to compile those. In EJB 2.0, Orion has to create actual classes that extens the abstract classes you wrote, and these have to be compiled. In both cases, you must have the JDK installed and not just the JRE for this reason. Good luck... Jim --On Friday, October 20, 2000 1:21 PM -0700 "Duffey, Kevin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI, Double check your ejb-jar.xml--are you setting LoginHome as your Home interface in there? Is there a LoginHome.create() method declared? Is there a LoginBean.ejbCreate() method defined? Hmm..I don't have a LoginHome.create()..the Orion Primer didn't show that. I have a Login.java, LoginBean.java and LoginHome.java. I think Login.java is the only one with a create() method in it. Should both the "interface" classes have a create() in it? Also, why is Orion trying to compile it if its already compiled? Or is this some sort of "assembly" routine Orion does? I assume from what I read that the EJB server "implements" the interfaces..so is it generating its own code at runtime and that is what compiling is failing? Thanks again.
