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> java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/evermind/gui/server/ServiceConsole
> at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:native)
> at kaffe.jar.ExecJarName.main(ExecJarName.java:70)
> at kaffe.jar.ExecJar.main(ExecJar.java:59)

 ^

You appear to be running the Kaffe JVM and not the Sun
JVM.  Kaffe is a standard RedHat/Mandrake install product.
If you don't want it remove it "rpm -e kaffe".  Else make
sure JAVA_HOME (or whatever orion uses to find java) is
pointing to the Sun jdk.

-tim

Re: Using Log4j With Orion

[Armin Rauch]

"Hee Meng, Poh" wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Anyone uses Log4j with Orion? Think of providing logging facilites for both
> web and ejb components.
> What's the good way to specify a PropertyConfigurator?
> 
> Thanks for any info.
> 
> Regards
I am using both tools. You have to remember that EJB are kind of
unwilling to giv you access IO Streams. In out case, we use JMS for
logging. We read the Property file as a resource with the ClassLoader
and let the PropertyConfigurator parse the Properties directly.
Regards
Armin Rauch

RE: Garbage collection, out of memory

[Jaco van Rooijen]

Sounds good, but WHERE does these parameters go?  I include a snippit of my
orion-ejb-jar.xml file...







Thanx
Jaco

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael
Doernberg
Sent: 14 February 2001 01:45
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: Garbage collection, out of memory


When you deploy your application. Orion will generate an XML file called
orion-ejb-jar.xml, if one does not exist. The file is derived from your
EJBs.  The file can be found buried in the application-deployments
directory.

You can set some parameters on each EJB you deem appropriate. These
parameters are not set in the auto generated file.

The first is a "validity-timeout" set to milliseconds. This will passivate
the the EJB if not active.

The second is a parameter called "max-instances" . This is set to the max
number of EJBs of a particular type you want. I am not sure if this is
supported yet, but I believe it was supposed to be implemented in the 1.4.7.

Hope this help. Let me know what you figure out.

-Mike




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From: "Thomas Munro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Orion-Interest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 1:29 PM
Subject: Garbage collection, out of memory


> Hello
>
> We are experiencing a garbage collection problem.  We are running Orion
> 1.4.7 on a Linux 2.4 box.  We have been trying the Sun 1.2.2, the Sun 1.3
> and the IBM JVM 1.3.  On the Sun 1.3 JVM we have tried normal garbage
> collection and also -Xincgc incremental garbage collection.  We run with
> 500 megabytes of heap space available to Java.
>
> The system uses lots of EJBs (mainly stateless session but also quite a
> few entities and a handful of stateful session beans), and we have JSP
> pages which run in the same JVM.
>
> The system runs very responsively and well, with up to 90 users
> simultaneously using it, for up to an hour.  Then enormous GCs start
> happening which block all activity for up to 180 seconds at a time!  The
> length and frequency of the freezes vary with the different JVMs but all
> are unusable after say an hour of up time.
>
> The Sun 1.3 in incremental GC mode is the best, and in fact remains stable
> and usable until it starts doing a few 9 second GCs from time to time
> (comparatively bearable) until we get a "HotSpot internal error" which
> stops all processing.
>
> We are trying all sorts of different things to stop our users getting
> upset, like reducing the JSP session timeout to a minimum, and are
> currently trying to analyse the code with JProbe to find out how to
> minimise unnecessary object creation or memory leaks (stale references to
> no longer used objects etc).
>
> As several list members have already said, it also seems that some beans
> are never passivated.
>
> What can we do to make Orion stop using more and more memory, and not to
> cause such outrageous garbage collection cycles?
>
> Any comments or suggestions would be very much appreciated.
>
> --
> Thomas Munro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  http://www.fullsix.com/
>  Fullsix Technology (Paris)
>
>

RE: out of memory error??

[Jaco van Rooijen]

Not every project has this problem.  Half of our projects run fine.  We have
yet to discover the pattern.

The out of memory is caused by a bug in their passivation routine.  We ran a
profiler on the Orion VM and we found that the server keep the beans in a
list, so the GC cant have them.  But the server does not pool or passivate
the beans either.  So they just increase in numbers.

Orion said theid fix it.  We wait.  Long.  And projects run late.

Up to 1.4.5 you could not set the limit.  Rumours have it that you might be
able to with 1.4.6.

Jaco
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Kua
Sent: 13 February 2001 11:53
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: out of memory error??


has anyone encountered an "out of memory" error when running EJBs with orion
server?
can this be solved by limiting the size of the EJB pool? and how do you set
this size?

thanks for your help!
pete

RE: Orion Server running out of memory fast!

[Jaco van Rooijen]

Indeed

We then ran a test program that creates a simple entity bean in an infinite
loop and then releases the reference of this entity bean. We ran a profiler
on the VM and counted the memory instances. It turns out that
even though memory seems to be running out, orion does not passivate the
beans that are not being used anymore.  Only halve of our projects have this
bug, we cannot see the pattern yet.  Of course the bigger project with the
tighter deadline has it too.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] said thanx and they'd fix it, but they cannot give
an estimate of when - we've been waiting for 3 months now.  Up to 1.4.5 you
could not limit the pool size, so there aint no way to force it to start
passivating.

Regards
Jaco

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Kua
Sent: 16 February 2001 05:21
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Orion Server running out of memory fast!


hello,

we've been running into "out of memory" problems recently.

we are deploying about 10-12 BMP EJBs and after a few minutes of intensive
querying the database, we run out of memory. seems like the EJB does not
passivate or the GC is not doing it's job, although i've tried to null all
the objects i don't need anymore. basically i have a jsp page calling a bean
that is calling the home and remote interface of the EJB.

we are using jdk1.3, orion 1.4.5 and MySQL. has any user reported similar
out of memory problems? the documentation doesn't say anything.

any help is greatly appreciated, so that i'll be able to convince my client
that orion server is THE server of choice.

thanks! peter kua

Re: MIME-types [off topic]

[Mikko Kurki-Suonio]

On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Konstantin Polyzois wrote:

> I am developing an app where there will be some xml-files generated. I want
> the user to save these to his hard drive. The problem is that Internet
> Exploder always displays xml. Is there some MIME type or some trick to make
> Exploder pop up a "save as dialog" instead?

As this feature is not offered in HTTP spec, you're off in uncharted
waters, relying on how the user has his browser configured. You could try
spoofing a MIME type usually associated with "save to disk" action, but
you have no true control over this.

The "Content-Disposition" header Roger suggested is not HTTP/1.1 standard.
I have no clue which browsers support it and how.

Ofcourse, you _could_ make the conscious decision of supporting only users
with the latest version of IE, and f**k the rest. Then there probably is a
kludge, perhaps even documented in some M$ archive.

> I have thought about letting the
> user "right click" an anchor and letting him "choose save target as.." but I
> think it is a little uggly.

It's not ugly. It's simply beyond the capability of many users...

//Mikko

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Thank to all of u guys
I have not been using BMP before and when i tried ms access it gave me a  hard time 
though i works sometimes
Thanks to your advice I am going to try MySQl for the moment
Respect
what a Great e-mailing list
faisal

  - Original Message - 
  From: Thomas Pridham 
  To: Orion-Interest 
  Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 7:01 PM
  Subject: RE: ms access & Orion?


  Two other free RDMS's are:

  1.  Interbase (http://www.interbase.com) - originally developed by Borland, now open 
source.  I am using this product in a commercial environment.  It is a bit unstable on 
Linux, but runs great on Win2000.  This DB has a JDBC client.  This is a cross 

p
latform DB.

  2.  SAP DB (http://www.sap.com/solutions/technology/sapdb/) - open sourced by SAP.  
I have not worked with this DB yet, but I will soon.  This DB also has a type 4 JDBC 
driver.  This is a cross-platform DB.

  Both of these databases "appear" to be industrial strength :)
-Original Message-
From: Kemp Randy-W18971 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 10:32 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: ms access & Orion?


Is ms access considered an RDMS and does it have a JDBC driver?  If so, then it 
should be theoretically possible to have it work with Orion.   But why would you want 
to do this?  A better solution would be to work with something like Postgresql (www


postgresql.org) or Mysql (www.mysql.com), if you don't have a commercial database 
(like Oracle) available. 
  -Original Message-
  From: faisal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 9:55 PM
  To: Orion-Interest
  Subject: ms access & Orion?


  does ms access  work with Orion 
  ?

Re: RE: Garbage collection, out of memory

[Jaco van Rooijen]

The problem is not that simple.  There's a bug.

We then ran a test program that creates a simple entity bean in an infinite
loop and then releases the reference of this entity bean. We ran a profiler
on the VM and counted the memory instances. The server keeps the beans in a
list, so the GC cant have them, and it turns out that even though memory
seems to be running out, orion does not passivate.

We told them, and [EMAIL PROTECTED] said thanx and they'd fix it, but
they cannot give an estimate of when - we've been waiting for 3 months now.
Up to 1.4.5 you could not limit the pool size, so there aint no way to force
it to start passivating.

Regards
Jaco

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tim Endres
Sent: 13 February 2001 23:32
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: Garbage collection, out of memory


Your GC times are huge because you have provided so much memory. If you
reduce the 500MB to 128MB, you will see more GC's, but they will be much
shorter. This is a well known optimization issue. Too little memory causes
to many GC runs, while too much memory causes GC runs to be too long. You
need to experiment to find the best amount of memory to allocate.

tim.

> Hello
>
> We are experiencing a garbage collection problem.  We are running Orion
> 1.4.7 on a Linux 2.4 box.  We have been trying the Sun 1.2.2, the Sun 1.3
> and the IBM JVM 1.3.  On the Sun 1.3 JVM we have tried normal garbage
> collection and also -Xincgc incremental garbage collection.  We run with
> 500 megabytes of heap space available to Java.
>
> The system uses lots of EJBs (mainly stateless session but also quite a
> few entities and a handful of stateful session beans), and we have JSP
> pages which run in the same JVM.
>
> The system runs very responsively and well, with up to 90 users
> simultaneously using it, for up to an hour.  Then enormous GCs start
> happening which block all activity for up to 180 seconds at a time!  The
> length and frequency of the freezes vary with the different JVMs but all
> are unusable after say an hour of up time.
>
> The Sun 1.3 in incremental GC mode is the best, and in fact remains stable
> and usable until it starts doing a few 9 second GCs from time to time
> (comparatively bearable) until we get a "HotSpot internal error" which
> stops all processing.
>
> We are trying all sorts of different things to stop our users getting
> upset, like reducing the JSP session timeout to a minimum, and are
> currently trying to analyse the code with JProbe to find out how to
> minimise unnecessary object creation or memory leaks (stale references to
> no longer used objects etc).
>
> As several list members have already said, it also seems that some beans
> are never passivated.
>
> What can we do to make Orion stop using more and more memory, and not to
> cause such outrageous garbage collection cycles?
>
> Any comments or suggestions would be very much appreciated.
>
> --
> Thomas Munro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  http://www.fullsix.com/
>  Fullsix Technology (Paris)
>
>

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Thanks man!  I really appreciate your reply
It is working fine now
Respect
faisal
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  From: Patrik Andersson 
  To: Orion-Interest 
  Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 6:18 PM
  Subject: RE: jdbc:leaked connection


  The problem can occur if you use code like:

  try {
  Connection c = // .. aquire connection
  performOperation(c);
  c.close();
  } catch (SQLException sqe) {
  // report error
  }

  Because that means that your connection will not be closed if:
  1) You don't close it in the catch clause
  2) You get some kind of unchecked exception: i.e: java.lang.RuntimeException
  because any of those will return your function without the "c.close();" having been 
run at all.

  Instead use code like:
  Connection c = null;
  try {
  c = // .. aquire connection
  performOperation(c);
  } catch (SQLException sqle) {
  // report error
  } finally {
  if (c != null) {
  c.close();
  }
  }
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From: faisal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: den 15 februari 2001 18:36
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: jdbc:leaked connection



Can u ,please, tell me what is  this weird "leaked connection" in my code all my  
connection are closed 
I used the Djdbc but it is no help
Has any  of Orion users met this  before
thank u in advance

Orion/1.4.7 initialized
OrionCMTConnection not closed, check your code!
LogicalDriverManagerXAConnection not closed, check your code!
(Use -Djdbc.connection.debug=true to find out where the leaked connection was cr
eated)

Re: How to deploy?

[catjava]

Thanks,But i want a step by step setup document,who can help 
me?

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I've surfed and surfed, and can't find any info on the problem I'm having.
HELP!


All brand new:
Red Hat Linux v7, Sun J2EE 1.2.1, Sun JDK1.3, Orion 1.4.5

[geoff@daphne orion]$cd /usr/local/orion
[geoff@daphne orion]$ java -jar orion.jar
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/evermind/gui/server/ServiceConsole
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:native)
at kaffe.jar.ExecJarName.main(ExecJarName.java:70)
at kaffe.jar.ExecJar.main(ExecJar.java:59)


Obviously, I'm missing some class, but where/what is it?  The JDK/SDK seems
to be working fine i.e. I can compile and run java applications, etc.  Does
some .jar file need to be expanded???

HELP!
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I agree with all the points you mentioned. That is why I am here, we want to
move away form IIS as well.

Stefan

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I found the problem, it seem that the global-web-application.xml supplied in
the tutorial didn't have an entry for html, I added it. Also had to rename
index.htm to index.html, a little disapointing to have these hassles
considering that were talking about a comercial product.

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Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 6:24 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: SV: Not authorized to view this page



Are the pages protected? 
Have you added a entry to your principals.xml for the app? 
What version of Orion are you running? 
More information needed. 
WR 

> -Ursprungligt meddelande- 
> Från: Adamson, Scott [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ] 
> Skickat: den 14 februari 2001 16:05 
> Till: Orion-Interest 
> Ämne: Not authorized to view this page 
> 
> 
> I get the message 'Not authorized to view this page' when 
> trying to run the 
> addressbook example from the CMP primer. I believe Orion is working 
> correctly as I can run the orion-primer example. Any help 
> much appreciated. 
> 
> 
> 
> Come on !! Someone must have had a similar problem, I'm 
> running Orion on Win 
> NT workstation 
> trying to access the pge from the same machine, how can I not 
> have access to 
> something on my own machine ?? 
> 
> I've tried loging in as admin (normal account should have admin rights 
> anyway !) no difference. If any Orion support people monitor this list 
> please help as I'm evaluating Orion with the view to 
> deploying it within a 
> 10 server cluster ($$$). 
> 
> regards, 
> Scott. 
> 
> 

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I need to deny access to our orion ejb application from external IP
addresses.

I know about firewall options I have, but wish to know how to do this at IP
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is there any files that I can modify so that the orion web server only
services request from specific internal IP addresses?


tia
k.















"Your mouse has moved, Windows must be restarted for changes to take
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Hi,

Anyone uses Log4j with Orion? Think of providing logging facilites for both
web and ejb components.
What's the good way to specify a PropertyConfigurator?

Thanks for any info.

Regards

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I appreciate the support, I realise that Orion is not charging huge CASH$
and as such is more limited as to the support they can provide. But, I think
that providing details on application deployment to make it easy for people
would go a long way to getting the server on the map and making the Orion
people a few bucks.

 Microsoft is huge commercial success for making their products easy to use
for the most part. I am not a fan and I have many beef's with their many
times buggy products but none the less, they are easy to install and run
with and that makes them the number one money maker.

I hope my point is well taken,

Stefan

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Looks like you need to add the directory containing 'com/evermind/.'  to
the classpath

-Original Message-
From: Geoff Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 8:39 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Orion doesn't work.


I've surfed and surfed, and can't find any info on the problem I'm having.
HELP!


All brand new:
Red Hat Linux v7, Sun J2EE 1.2.1, Sun JDK1.3, Orion 1.4.5

[geoff@daphne orion]$cd /usr/local/orion
[geoff@daphne orion]$ java -jar orion.jar
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/evermind/gui/server/ServiceConsole
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:native)
at kaffe.jar.ExecJarName.main(ExecJarName.java:70)
at kaffe.jar.ExecJar.main(ExecJar.java:59)


Obviously, I'm missing some class, but where/what is it?  The JDK/SDK seems
to be working fine i.e. I can compile and run java applications, etc.  Does
some .jar file need to be expanded???

HELP!
-- 

-Geoff Marshall, Director of Development

...
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San Francisco, CA  94103 fax (415) 625-0306
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I've surfed and surfed, and can't find any info on the problem I'm having.
HELP!


All brand new:
Red Hat Linux v7, Sun J2EE 1.2.1, Sun JDK1.3, Orion 1.4.5

[geoff@daphne orion]$cd /usr/local/orion
[geoff@daphne orion]$ java -jar orion.jar
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/evermind/gui/server/ServiceConsole
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:native)
at kaffe.jar.ExecJarName.main(ExecJarName.java:70)
at kaffe.jar.ExecJar.main(ExecJar.java:59)


Obviously, I'm missing some class, but where/what is it?  The JDK/SDK seems
to be working fine i.e. I can compile and run java applications, etc.  Does
some .jar file need to be expanded???

HELP!
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Nono, to clarify - send your questions to the list, NOT to individuals.

-mike

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Archer
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 11:38 AM
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: RE: Last posting
>
>
> Well, if we can't send them questions, how can we ask them? 
>
>
>
> --On Friday, February 16, 2001 10:04 AM +1100 Mike Cannon-Brookes
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > If I might put up an impassioned plea at this point (on behalf
> of Marcus,
> > myself and anyone else who regularly gets Orion support questions in
> > their personal inbox)
> >
> > DO NOT SEND YOUR QUESTIONS TO ANYONE'S PERSONAL ADDRESS WITHOUT ASKING
> > THEM
> >
> > Keep your questions on the list, we see them there too.
> >
> > -mike
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Magnus Rydin
> > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 12:49 AM
> > To: Orion-Interest
> > Subject: SV: Last posting
> >
> >
> >
> > Whoa!
> > Hold your mails! Hold your mails!
> > Im just a contributor like the rest of you :)
> > WR
> >
> >> -Ursprungligt meddelande-
> >> Från: Johan Fredriksson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Skickat: den 15 februari 2001 05:17
> >> Till: Orion-Interest
> >> Ämne: Re: Last posting
> >>
> >>
> >> If you don't get your answer within 2-3 days, people don't
> >> know the answer.
> >> If that is the case, try to get in contact with Magnus Rydin
> >> or someone else
> >> in the Orion team. I know it is very difficult to get in
> >> touch with them,
> >> and I guess time zone differences are making it worse, but if
> >> you do you
> >> usually get the answer you need instantly. Not always the
> >> answer you want...
> >> But that's something else.
> >>
> >> As a little hint in comparing Orion to any other J2EE
> >> application server out
> >> there, Orion is the one that gets you up and running with
> >> least effort. It
> >> is even easier than Suns reference implementation, but then I
> >> have installed
> >> Orion 10-20 times, so I'm not sure if I'm being objective.
> >>
> >> Long complicated questions on this list seems to get by
> >> without answers,
> >> especially if they are not very precise. And as Bronwen
> >> Cassidy said very
> >> insightfully : ...this is more a  "I HOPE SOMEONE ANSWERS" forum...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Cliff Rowley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "Orion-Interest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 11:37 AM
> >> Subject: RE: Last posting
> >>
> >>
> >> > Tim, thankyou for your mature and decent reply - it is very much
> >> > appreciated.
> >> >
> >> > I must apologise for being rather obtrusive, I am almost
> >> ready to crack
> >> and
> >> > 'let them take me away', and everyone seems to be taking a
> >> fair whack from
> >> > it just recently.  Some people react like bulldogs, and
> >> some people care
> >> to
> >> > remember they are dealing with real people with real problems.
> >> >
> >> > Sorry if I caused you any displeasure.
> >> >
> >> > Cliff
> >> >
> >> > > -Original Message-
> >> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >> Tim Endres
> >> > > Sent: 15 February 2001 03:22
> >> > > To: Orion-Interest
> >> > > Subject: Re: Last posting
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Cliff,
> >> > >
> >> > > I think your posting was sufficiently complex and general
> >> that it was
> >> > > unlikely to generate a reponse. Speaking for myself, but
> >> suspecting
> >> > > that it applies to other "professionals", I am very busy,
> >> and do not
> >> > > have the time to devote to such a response. Sorry.
> >> > >
> >> > > However, I believe you would be more likely to get a
> >> reply if you try
> >> > > asking specific questions.
> >> > >
> >> > > tim.
> >> > >
> >> > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> >> > > > Hash: SHA1
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Pardon me if I sound a little rude, but since not a
> >> single person has
> >> > > > even acknowledged my last post, do I assume that (a)
> >> noone cares or
> >> > > > (b) noone knows?  I am very keen to get started, and
> >> very keen to
> >> > > > evaluate the various avenues open to us, and I had expected a
> >> > > > commercial application to have a reasonably
> >> professional following.
> >> > > > Perhaps I was mistaken and I should look elsewhere?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Cliff Rowley
> >> > > >
> >> > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
> >> > > > Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use
> > 
> >> > 

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Well, if we can't send them questions, how can we ask them? 



--On Friday, February 16, 2001 10:04 AM +1100 Mike Cannon-Brookes 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> If I might put up an impassioned plea at this point (on behalf of Marcus,
> myself and anyone else who regularly gets Orion support questions in
> their personal inbox)
>
> DO NOT SEND YOUR QUESTIONS TO ANYONE'S PERSONAL ADDRESS WITHOUT ASKING
> THEM
>
> Keep your questions on the list, we see them there too.
>
> -mike
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Magnus Rydin
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 12:49 AM
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: SV: Last posting
>
>
>
> Whoa!
> Hold your mails! Hold your mails!
> Im just a contributor like the rest of you :)
> WR
>
>> -Ursprungligt meddelande-
>> Från: Johan Fredriksson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Skickat: den 15 februari 2001 05:17
>> Till: Orion-Interest
>> Ämne: Re: Last posting
>>
>>
>> If you don't get your answer within 2-3 days, people don't
>> know the answer.
>> If that is the case, try to get in contact with Magnus Rydin
>> or someone else
>> in the Orion team. I know it is very difficult to get in
>> touch with them,
>> and I guess time zone differences are making it worse, but if
>> you do you
>> usually get the answer you need instantly. Not always the
>> answer you want...
>> But that's something else.
>>
>> As a little hint in comparing Orion to any other J2EE
>> application server out
>> there, Orion is the one that gets you up and running with
>> least effort. It
>> is even easier than Suns reference implementation, but then I
>> have installed
>> Orion 10-20 times, so I'm not sure if I'm being objective.
>>
>> Long complicated questions on this list seems to get by
>> without answers,
>> especially if they are not very precise. And as Bronwen
>> Cassidy said very
>> insightfully : ...this is more a  "I HOPE SOMEONE ANSWERS" forum...
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Cliff Rowley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Orion-Interest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 11:37 AM
>> Subject: RE: Last posting
>>
>>
>> > Tim, thankyou for your mature and decent reply - it is very much
>> > appreciated.
>> >
>> > I must apologise for being rather obtrusive, I am almost
>> ready to crack
>> and
>> > 'let them take me away', and everyone seems to be taking a
>> fair whack from
>> > it just recently.  Some people react like bulldogs, and
>> some people care
>> to
>> > remember they are dealing with real people with real problems.
>> >
>> > Sorry if I caused you any displeasure.
>> >
>> > Cliff
>> >
>> > > -Original Message-
>> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>> Tim Endres
>> > > Sent: 15 February 2001 03:22
>> > > To: Orion-Interest
>> > > Subject: Re: Last posting
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Cliff,
>> > >
>> > > I think your posting was sufficiently complex and general
>> that it was
>> > > unlikely to generate a reponse. Speaking for myself, but
>> suspecting
>> > > that it applies to other "professionals", I am very busy,
>> and do not
>> > > have the time to devote to such a response. Sorry.
>> > >
>> > > However, I believe you would be more likely to get a
>> reply if you try
>> > > asking specific questions.
>> > >
>> > > tim.
>> > >
>> > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> > > > Hash: SHA1
>> > > >
>> > > > Pardon me if I sound a little rude, but since not a
>> single person has
>> > > > even acknowledged my last post, do I assume that (a)
>> noone cares or
>> > > > (b) noone knows?  I am very keen to get started, and
>> very keen to
>> > > > evaluate the various avenues open to us, and I had expected a
>> > > > commercial application to have a reasonably
>> professional following.
>> > > > Perhaps I was mistaken and I should look elsewhere?
>> > > >
>> > > > Cliff Rowley
>> > > >
>> > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
>> > > > Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use
> 
>> > >
>> > > iQA/AwUBOosbgApjs58+bOhlEQKwigCgnaxMsVQAHoiFpkfbNk48fqTDWXsAoMNy
>> > > HxbYNGGXjPNB/neGWBPbq8yf
>> > > =RK40
>> > > -END PGP SIGNATURE-
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>

RE: Orion Server running out of memory fast!

[Victor A. Salaman]

Well, not to rant here, but your first mistake is using mysql... it's not
designed for ejb/transaction work even though it's been recently kludged to
apparently do that. The second might be a leaky mysql jdbc driver (yes, this
is a known fact). The third might be in your code, and lastly it could be
Orion. Although the last is very unlikely. If you look at the list, a lot of
people have had this problem before... While investigating the problem, the
following common factors arose:

1. Using of mysql
2. Using MS-SQL or MS-Access with JDBC-ODBC driver.
3. Bad JVM

None of the reported cases have traced back to Orion. So before reporting it
as a bug, please track your memory usage using something like OptimizeIt. If
it turns out to be an Orion bug, log it in Bugzilla and the Orion Team will
look at it and provide more assistance.

-- Victor

-Original Message-
From: Peter Kua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 11:21 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Orion Server running out of memory fast!


hello,

we've been running into "out of memory" problems recently.

we are deploying about 10-12 BMP EJBs and after a few minutes of intensive
querying the database, we run out of memory. seems like the EJB does not
passivate or the GC is not doing it's job, although i've tried to null all
the objects i don't need anymore. basically i have a jsp page calling a bean
that is calling the home and remote interface of the EJB.

we are using jdk1.3, orion 1.4.5 and MySQL. has any user reported similar
out of memory problems? the documentation doesn't say anything.

any help is greatly appreciated, so that i'll be able to convince my client
that orion server is THE server of choice.

thanks! peter kua

Orion Server running out of memory fast!

[Peter Kua]

hello,

we've been running into "out of memory" problems recently.

we are deploying about 10-12 BMP EJBs and after a few minutes of intensive
querying the database, we run out of memory. seems like the EJB does not
passivate or the GC is not doing it's job, although i've tried to null all
the objects i don't need anymore. basically i have a jsp page calling a bean
that is calling the home and remote interface of the EJB.

we are using jdk1.3, orion 1.4.5 and MySQL. has any user reported similar
out of memory problems? the documentation doesn't say anything.

any help is greatly appreciated, so that i'll be able to convince my client
that orion server is THE server of choice.

thanks! peter kua

RE: Orion Server running out of memory fast!

[Mike Cannon-Brookes]

Have you tried increasing the memory given to the JVM? Try java -?

-mike

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Kua
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 2:21 PM
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: Orion Server running out of memory fast!
>
>
> hello,
>
> we've been running into "out of memory" problems recently.
>
> we are deploying about 10-12 BMP EJBs and after a few minutes of intensive
> querying the database, we run out of memory. seems like the EJB does not
> passivate or the GC is not doing it's job, although i've tried to null all
> the objects i don't need anymore. basically i have a jsp page
> calling a bean
> that is calling the home and remote interface of the EJB.
>
> we are using jdk1.3, orion 1.4.5 and MySQL. has any user reported similar
> out of memory problems? the documentation doesn't say anything.
>
> any help is greatly appreciated, so that i'll be able to convince
> my client
> that orion server is THE server of choice.
>
> thanks! peter kua
>
>
>

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ello,

Sure it does. Just use JDBC-ODBC driver. Here is an example data-source
entry:
 


BTW, since access does not support transaction, the xa-... line above is
useless. Also when you deploy your ejb, make sure you don't use
transaction.

I use it for development and demonstration purposes on my puny lil' Win98
notebook.

cheers
romen

IT Architect, Business And Data Services
IBM GSA
TEL: 612-84484716
FAX: 612-84484008
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Rafael Alvarez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@orionserver.com on 16/09/2000 01:12:14

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Hello faisal,

If you use the jdbc.odbc bridge, yes.

But, why do you want to use Ms Access (just curiosity)
Wednesday, February 14, 2001, 11:55:05 PM, you wrote:

f> does ms access  work with Orion
f> ?



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> java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/evermind/gui/server/ServiceConsole
> at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:native)
> at kaffe.jar.ExecJarName.main(ExecJarName.java:70)
> at kaffe.jar.ExecJar.main(ExecJar.java:59)

 ^

You appear to be running the Kaffe JVM and not the Sun
JVM.  Kaffe is a standard RedHat/Mandrake install product.
If you don't want it remove it "rpm -e kaffe".  Else make
sure JAVA_HOME (or whatever orion uses to find java) is
pointing to the Sun jdk.

-tim

Orion Server running out of memory fast!

[Peter Kua]

hello,

we've been running into "out of memory" problems recently.

we are deploying about 10-12 BMP EJBs and after a few minutes of intensive
querying the database, we run out of memory. seems like the EJB does not
passivate or the GC is not doing it's job, although i've tried to null all
the objects i don't need anymore. basically i have a jsp page calling a bean
that is calling the home and remote interface of the EJB.

we are using jdk1.3, orion 1.4.5 and MySQL. has any user reported similar
out of memory problems? the documentation doesn't say anything.

any help is greatly appreciated, so that i'll be able to convince my client
that orion server is THE server of choice.

thanks! peter kua

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I've surfed and surfed, and can't find any info on the problem I'm having.
HELP!


All brand new:
Red Hat Linux v7, Sun J2EE 1.2.1, Sun JDK1.3, Orion 1.4.5

[geoff@daphne orion]$cd /usr/local/orion
[geoff@daphne orion]$ java -jar orion.jar
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/evermind/gui/server/ServiceConsole
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:native)
at kaffe.jar.ExecJarName.main(ExecJarName.java:70)
at kaffe.jar.ExecJar.main(ExecJar.java:59)


Obviously, I'm missing some class, but where/what is it?  The JDK/SDK seems
to be working fine i.e. I can compile and run java applications, etc.  Does
some .jar file need to be expanded???

HELP!
-- 

-Geoff Marshall, Director of Development

...
t e r r a s c o p e  (415) 951-4944
54 Mint Street, Suite 110 direct (415) 625-0349
San Francisco, CA  94103 fax (415) 625-0306
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SV: Last postingIf I might put up an impassioned plea at this point (on
behalf of Marcus, myself and anyone else who regularly gets Orion support
questions in their personal inbox)

DO NOT SEND YOUR QUESTIONS TO ANYONE'S PERSONAL ADDRESS WITHOUT ASKING THEM

Keep your questions on the list, we see them there too.

-mike
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Magnus Rydin
  Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 12:49 AM
  To: Orion-Interest
  Subject: SV: Last posting


  Whoa!
  Hold your mails! Hold your mails!
  Im just a contributor like the rest of you :)
  WR

  > -Ursprungligt meddelande-
  > Från: Johan Fredriksson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  > Skickat: den 15 februari 2001 05:17
  > Till: Orion-Interest
  > Ämne: Re: Last posting
  >
  >
  > If you don't get your answer within 2-3 days, people don't
  > know the answer.
  > If that is the case, try to get in contact with Magnus Rydin
  > or someone else
  > in the Orion team. I know it is very difficult to get in
  > touch with them,
  > and I guess time zone differences are making it worse, but if
  > you do you
  > usually get the answer you need instantly. Not always the
  > answer you want...
  > But that's something else.
  >
  > As a little hint in comparing Orion to any other J2EE
  > application server out
  > there, Orion is the one that gets you up and running with
  > least effort. It
  > is even easier than Suns reference implementation, but then I
  > have installed
  > Orion 10-20 times, so I'm not sure if I'm being objective.
  >
  > Long complicated questions on this list seems to get by
  > without answers,
  > especially if they are not very precise. And as Bronwen
  > Cassidy said very
  > insightfully : ...this is more a  "I HOPE SOMEONE ANSWERS" forum...
  >
  >
  >
  > - Original Message -
  > From: "Cliff Rowley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  > To: "Orion-Interest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  > Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 11:37 AM
  > Subject: RE: Last posting
  >
  >
  > > Tim, thankyou for your mature and decent reply - it is very much
  > > appreciated.
  > >
  > > I must apologise for being rather obtrusive, I am almost
  > ready to crack
  > and
  > > 'let them take me away', and everyone seems to be taking a
  > fair whack from
  > > it just recently.  Some people react like bulldogs, and
  > some people care
  > to
  > > remember they are dealing with real people with real problems.
  > >
  > > Sorry if I caused you any displeasure.
  > >
  > > Cliff
  > >
  > > > -Original Message-
  > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  > Tim Endres
  > > > Sent: 15 February 2001 03:22
  > > > To: Orion-Interest
  > > > Subject: Re: Last posting
  > > >
  > > >
  > > > Cliff,
  > > >
  > > > I think your posting was sufficiently complex and general
  > that it was
  > > > unlikely to generate a reponse. Speaking for myself, but
  > suspecting
  > > > that it applies to other "professionals", I am very busy,
  > and do not
  > > > have the time to devote to such a response. Sorry.
  > > >
  > > > However, I believe you would be more likely to get a
  > reply if you try
  > > > asking specific questions.
  > > >
  > > > tim.
  > > >
  > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
  > > > > Hash: SHA1
  > > > >
  > > > > Pardon me if I sound a little rude, but since not a
  > single person has
  > > > > even acknowledged my last post, do I assume that (a)
  > noone cares or
  > > > > (b) noone knows?  I am very keen to get started, and
  > very keen to
  > > > > evaluate the various avenues open to us, and I had expected a
  > > > > commercial application to have a reasonably
  > professional following.
  > > > > Perhaps I was mistaken and I should look elsewhere?
  > > > >
  > > > > Cliff Rowley
  > > > >
  > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
  > > > > Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use
  
  > > >
  > > > iQA/AwUBOosbgApjs58+bOhlEQKwigCgnaxMsVQAHoiFpkfbNk48fqTDWXsAoMNy
  > > > HxbYNGGXjPNB/neGWBPbq8yf
  > > > =RK40
  > > > -END PGP SIGNATURE-
  > > >
  > > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  >

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 Original Message Text 
Thank to all of u guys
I have not been using BMP before and when i tried ms access it gave me a  hard time 
though i works sometimes
Thanks to your advice I am going to try MySQl for the moment
Respect
what a Great e-mailing list
faisal

  - Original Message - 
  From: Thomas Pridham 
  To: Orion-Interest 
  Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 7:01 PM
  Subject: RE: ms access & Orion?


  Two other free RDMS's are:

  1.  Interbase (http://www.interbase.com) - originally developed by Borland, now open 
source.  I am using this product in a commercial environment.  It is a bit unstable on 
Linux, but runs great on Win2000.  This DB has a JDBC client.  This is a cross p
latform DB.

  2.  SAP DB (http://www.sap.com/solutions/technology/sapdb/) - open sourced by SAP.  
I have not worked with this DB yet, but I will soon.  This DB also has a type 4 JDBC 
driver.  This is a cross-platform DB.

  Both of these databases "appear" to be industrial strength :)
-Original Message-
From: Kemp Randy-W18971 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 10:32 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: ms access & Orion?


Is ms access considered an RDMS and does it have a JDBC driver?  If so, then it 
should be theoretically possible to have it work with Orion.   But why would you want 
to do this?  A better solution would be to work with something like Postgresql (www.
postgresql.org) or Mysql (www.mysql.com), if you don't have a commercial database 
(like Oracle) available. 
  -Original Message-
  From: faisal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 9:55 PM
  To: Orion-Interest
  Subject: ms access & Orion?


  does ms access  work with Orion 
  ?

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 Original Message Text 
I agree with all the points you mentioned. That is why I am here, we want to
move away form IIS as well.

Stefan

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Thanks man!  I really appreciate your reply
It is working fine now
Respect
faisal
  - Original Message - 
  From: Patrik Andersson 
  To: Orion-Interest 
  Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 6:18 PM
  Subject: RE: jdbc:leaked connection


  The problem can occur if you use code like:

  try {
  Connection c = // .. aquire connection
  performOperation(c);
  c.close();
  } catch (SQLException sqe) {
  // report error
  }

  Because that means that your connection will not be closed if:
  1) You don't close it in the catch clause
  2) You get some kind of unchecked exception: i.e: java.lang.RuntimeException
  because any of those will return your function without the "c.close();" having been 
run at all.

  Instead use code like:
  Connection c = null;
  try {
  c = // .. aquire connection
  performOperation(c);
  } catch (SQLException sqle) {
  // report error
  } finally {
  if (c != null) {
  c.close();
  }
  }
-Original Message-
From: faisal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: den 15 februari 2001 18:36
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: jdbc:leaked connection



Can u ,please, tell me what is  this weird "leaked connection" in my code all my  
connection are closed 
I used the Djdbc but it is no help
Has any  of Orion users met this  before
thank u in advance

Orion/1.4.7 initialized
OrionCMTConnection not closed, check your code!
LogicalDriverManagerXAConnection not closed, check your code!
(Use -Djdbc.connection.debug=true to find out where the leaked connection was cr
eated)

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 Original Message Text 
That didn't help for me.  I have since switched to Tiny Personal
Firewall and like it alot.

Al Heinrichs wrote:
> 
> Hey guys,
> 
> If you have Orion and ZoneAlarm installed on Windows 2000 and are getting
> the blue screen of death when you try to access Orion's home on your
> browser, it may help to install ZoneAlarm's latest release (2.144). I just
> read the "Important Information" blurb that you get when you install it, and
> it mentions that in version 2.143 they fixed a problem that would crash
> Windows 2000 with a "PAGE_FAULT_IN_NON_PAGED_AREA" blue screen. I'm going
> from memory here, but I'm sure that's the error I used to get just before my
> machine would reboot.
> 
> In my case, I did a complete reformat and reinstalled Win2000 (without SP1),
> Orion, and my other development apps. This fixed the Orion problem, but now
> I'm wondering if the ZoneAlarm update would have solved the issue with far
> less effort. Maybe someone else with this same problem could try this
> though, and post the results to the list? Based on some posts I read here
> about a month ago, I definitely wasn't the only one that ran into this.
> 
> Good luck!
> Al Heinrichs
> _
> Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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 Original Message Text 
I found the problem, it seem that the global-web-application.xml supplied in
the tutorial didn't have an entry for html, I added it. Also had to rename
index.htm to index.html, a little disapointing to have these hassles
considering that were talking about a comercial product.

-Original Message-
From: Magnus Rydin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 6:24 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: SV: Not authorized to view this page



Are the pages protected? 
Have you added a entry to your principals.xml for the app? 
What version of Orion are you running? 
More information needed. 
WR 

> -Ursprungligt meddelande- 
> Från: Adamson, Scott [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ] 
> Skickat: den 14 februari 2001 16:05 
> Till: Orion-Interest 
> Ämne: Not authorized to view this page 
> 
> 
> I get the message 'Not authorized to view this page' when 
> trying to run the 
> addressbook example from the CMP primer. I believe Orion is working 
> correctly as I can run the orion-primer example. Any help 
> much appreciated. 
> 
> 
> 
> Come on !! Someone must have had a similar problem, I'm 
> running Orion on Win 
> NT workstation 
> trying to access the pge from the same machine, how can I not 
> have access to 
> something on my own machine ?? 
> 
> I've tried loging in as admin (normal account should have admin rights 
> anyway !) no difference. If any Orion support people monitor this list 
> please help as I'm evaluating Orion with the view to 
> deploying it within a 
> 10 server cluster ($$$). 
> 
> regards, 
> Scott. 
> 
> 

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I need to deny access to our orion ejb application from external IP
addresses.

I know about firewall options I have, but wish to know how to do this at IP
level.

is there any files that I can modify so that the orion web server only
services request from specific internal IP addresses?


tia
k.















"Your mouse has moved, Windows must be restarted for changes to take
effect."

Using Log4j With Orion

[Hee Meng, Poh]

Hi,

Anyone uses Log4j with Orion? Think of providing logging facilites for both
web and ejb components.
What's the good way to specify a PropertyConfigurator?

Thanks for any info.

Regards

RE: Orion doesn't work.

[Adamson, Scott]

Looks like you need to add the directory containing 'com/evermind/.'  to
the classpath

-Original Message-
From: Geoff Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 8:39 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Orion doesn't work.


I've surfed and surfed, and can't find any info on the problem I'm having.
HELP!


All brand new:
Red Hat Linux v7, Sun J2EE 1.2.1, Sun JDK1.3, Orion 1.4.5

[geoff@daphne orion]$cd /usr/local/orion
[geoff@daphne orion]$ java -jar orion.jar
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/evermind/gui/server/ServiceConsole
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:native)
at kaffe.jar.ExecJarName.main(ExecJarName.java:70)
at kaffe.jar.ExecJar.main(ExecJar.java:59)


Obviously, I'm missing some class, but where/what is it?  The JDK/SDK seems
to be working fine i.e. I can compile and run java applications, etc.  Does
some .jar file need to be expanded???

HELP!
-- 

-Geoff Marshall, Director of Development

...
t e r r a s c o p e  (415) 951-4944
54 Mint Street, Suite 110 direct (415) 625-0349
San Francisco, CA  94103 fax (415) 625-0306
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I've surfed and surfed, and can't find any info on the problem I'm having.
HELP!


All brand new:
Red Hat Linux v7, Sun J2EE 1.2.1, Sun JDK1.3, Orion 1.4.5

[geoff@daphne orion]$cd /usr/local/orion
[geoff@daphne orion]$ java -jar orion.jar
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/evermind/gui/server/ServiceConsole
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:native)
at kaffe.jar.ExecJarName.main(ExecJarName.java:70)
at kaffe.jar.ExecJar.main(ExecJar.java:59)


Obviously, I'm missing some class, but where/what is it?  The JDK/SDK seems
to be working fine i.e. I can compile and run java applications, etc.  Does
some .jar file need to be expanded???

HELP!
-- 

-Geoff Marshall, Director of Development

...
t e r r a s c o p e  (415) 951-4944
54 Mint Street, Suite 110 direct (415) 625-0349
San Francisco, CA  94103 fax (415) 625-0306
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 Original Message Text 
I appreciate the support, I realise that Orion is not charging huge CASH$
and as such is more limited as to the support they can provide. But, I think
that providing details on application deployment to make it easy for people
would go a long way to getting the server on the map and making the Orion
people a few bucks.

 Microsoft is huge commercial success for making their products easy to use
for the most part. I am not a fan and I have many beef's with their many
times buggy products but none the less, they are easy to install and run
with and that makes them the number one money maker.

I hope my point is well taken,

Stefan

RE: Last posting

[Mike Cannon-Brookes]

Nono, to clarify - send your questions to the list, NOT to individuals.

-mike

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Archer
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 11:38 AM
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: RE: Last posting
>
>
> Well, if we can't send them questions, how can we ask them? 
>
>
>
> --On Friday, February 16, 2001 10:04 AM +1100 Mike Cannon-Brookes
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > If I might put up an impassioned plea at this point (on behalf
> of Marcus,
> > myself and anyone else who regularly gets Orion support questions in
> > their personal inbox)
> >
> > DO NOT SEND YOUR QUESTIONS TO ANYONE'S PERSONAL ADDRESS WITHOUT ASKING
> > THEM
> >
> > Keep your questions on the list, we see them there too.
> >
> > -mike
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Magnus Rydin
> > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 12:49 AM
> > To: Orion-Interest
> > Subject: SV: Last posting
> >
> >
> >
> > Whoa!
> > Hold your mails! Hold your mails!
> > Im just a contributor like the rest of you :)
> > WR
> >
> >> -Ursprungligt meddelande-
> >> Från: Johan Fredriksson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Skickat: den 15 februari 2001 05:17
> >> Till: Orion-Interest
> >> Ämne: Re: Last posting
> >>
> >>
> >> If you don't get your answer within 2-3 days, people don't
> >> know the answer.
> >> If that is the case, try to get in contact with Magnus Rydin
> >> or someone else
> >> in the Orion team. I know it is very difficult to get in
> >> touch with them,
> >> and I guess time zone differences are making it worse, but if
> >> you do you
> >> usually get the answer you need instantly. Not always the
> >> answer you want...
> >> But that's something else.
> >>
> >> As a little hint in comparing Orion to any other J2EE
> >> application server out
> >> there, Orion is the one that gets you up and running with
> >> least effort. It
> >> is even easier than Suns reference implementation, but then I
> >> have installed
> >> Orion 10-20 times, so I'm not sure if I'm being objective.
> >>
> >> Long complicated questions on this list seems to get by
> >> without answers,
> >> especially if they are not very precise. And as Bronwen
> >> Cassidy said very
> >> insightfully : ...this is more a  "I HOPE SOMEONE ANSWERS" forum...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Cliff Rowley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "Orion-Interest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 11:37 AM
> >> Subject: RE: Last posting
> >>
> >>
> >> > Tim, thankyou for your mature and decent reply - it is very much
> >> > appreciated.
> >> >
> >> > I must apologise for being rather obtrusive, I am almost
> >> ready to crack
> >> and
> >> > 'let them take me away', and everyone seems to be taking a
> >> fair whack from
> >> > it just recently.  Some people react like bulldogs, and
> >> some people care
> >> to
> >> > remember they are dealing with real people with real problems.
> >> >
> >> > Sorry if I caused you any displeasure.
> >> >
> >> > Cliff
> >> >
> >> > > -Original Message-
> >> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >> Tim Endres
> >> > > Sent: 15 February 2001 03:22
> >> > > To: Orion-Interest
> >> > > Subject: Re: Last posting
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Cliff,
> >> > >
> >> > > I think your posting was sufficiently complex and general
> >> that it was
> >> > > unlikely to generate a reponse. Speaking for myself, but
> >> suspecting
> >> > > that it applies to other "professionals", I am very busy,
> >> and do not
> >> > > have the time to devote to such a response. Sorry.
> >> > >
> >> > > However, I believe you would be more likely to get a
> >> reply if you try
> >> > > asking specific questions.
> >> > >
> >> > > tim.
> >> > >
> >> > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> >> > > > Hash: SHA1
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Pardon me if I sound a little rude, but since not a
> >> single person has
> >> > > > even acknowledged my last post, do I assume that (a)
> >> noone cares or
> >> > > > (b) noone knows?  I am very keen to get started, and
> >> very keen to
> >> > > > evaluate the various avenues open to us, and I had expected a
> >> > > > commercial application to have a reasonably
> >> professional following.
> >> > > > Perhaps I was mistaken and I should look elsewhere?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Cliff Rowley
> >> > > >
> >> > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
> >> > > > Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use
> > 
> >> > >
> >> > > iQA/AwUBOosbgApjs58+bOhlEQKwigCgnaxMsVQAHoiFpkfbNk48fqTDWXsAoMNy
> >> > > HxbYNGGXjPNB/neGWBPbq8yf
> >> > > =RK40
> >> > > -END PGP SIGNATURE-
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

RE: Last posting

[Jim Archer]

Well, if we can't send them questions, how can we ask them? 



--On Friday, February 16, 2001 10:04 AM +1100 Mike Cannon-Brookes 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> If I might put up an impassioned plea at this point (on behalf of Marcus,
> myself and anyone else who regularly gets Orion support questions in
> their personal inbox)
>
> DO NOT SEND YOUR QUESTIONS TO ANYONE'S PERSONAL ADDRESS WITHOUT ASKING
> THEM
>
> Keep your questions on the list, we see them there too.
>
> -mike
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Magnus Rydin
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 12:49 AM
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: SV: Last posting
>
>
>
> Whoa!
> Hold your mails! Hold your mails!
> Im just a contributor like the rest of you :)
> WR
>
>> -Ursprungligt meddelande-
>> Från: Johan Fredriksson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Skickat: den 15 februari 2001 05:17
>> Till: Orion-Interest
>> Ämne: Re: Last posting
>>
>>
>> If you don't get your answer within 2-3 days, people don't
>> know the answer.
>> If that is the case, try to get in contact with Magnus Rydin
>> or someone else
>> in the Orion team. I know it is very difficult to get in
>> touch with them,
>> and I guess time zone differences are making it worse, but if
>> you do you
>> usually get the answer you need instantly. Not always the
>> answer you want...
>> But that's something else.
>>
>> As a little hint in comparing Orion to any other J2EE
>> application server out
>> there, Orion is the one that gets you up and running with
>> least effort. It
>> is even easier than Suns reference implementation, but then I
>> have installed
>> Orion 10-20 times, so I'm not sure if I'm being objective.
>>
>> Long complicated questions on this list seems to get by
>> without answers,
>> especially if they are not very precise. And as Bronwen
>> Cassidy said very
>> insightfully : ...this is more a  "I HOPE SOMEONE ANSWERS" forum...
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Cliff Rowley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Orion-Interest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 11:37 AM
>> Subject: RE: Last posting
>>
>>
>> > Tim, thankyou for your mature and decent reply - it is very much
>> > appreciated.
>> >
>> > I must apologise for being rather obtrusive, I am almost
>> ready to crack
>> and
>> > 'let them take me away', and everyone seems to be taking a
>> fair whack from
>> > it just recently.  Some people react like bulldogs, and
>> some people care
>> to
>> > remember they are dealing with real people with real problems.
>> >
>> > Sorry if I caused you any displeasure.
>> >
>> > Cliff
>> >
>> > > -Original Message-
>> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>> Tim Endres
>> > > Sent: 15 February 2001 03:22
>> > > To: Orion-Interest
>> > > Subject: Re: Last posting
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Cliff,
>> > >
>> > > I think your posting was sufficiently complex and general
>> that it was
>> > > unlikely to generate a reponse. Speaking for myself, but
>> suspecting
>> > > that it applies to other "professionals", I am very busy,
>> and do not
>> > > have the time to devote to such a response. Sorry.
>> > >
>> > > However, I believe you would be more likely to get a
>> reply if you try
>> > > asking specific questions.
>> > >
>> > > tim.
>> > >
>> > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> > > > Hash: SHA1
>> > > >
>> > > > Pardon me if I sound a little rude, but since not a
>> single person has
>> > > > even acknowledged my last post, do I assume that (a)
>> noone cares or
>> > > > (b) noone knows?  I am very keen to get started, and
>> very keen to
>> > > > evaluate the various avenues open to us, and I had expected a
>> > > > commercial application to have a reasonably
>> professional following.
>> > > > Perhaps I was mistaken and I should look elsewhere?
>> > > >
>> > > > Cliff Rowley
>> > > >
>> > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
>> > > > Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use
> 
>> > >
>> > > iQA/AwUBOosbgApjs58+bOhlEQKwigCgnaxMsVQAHoiFpkfbNk48fqTDWXsAoMNy
>> > > HxbYNGGXjPNB/neGWBPbq8yf
>> > > =RK40
>> > > -END PGP SIGNATURE-
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>

RE: Orion doesn't work.

[Tim Drury]

Title: RE: Orion doesn't work.





> java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/evermind/gui/server/ServiceConsole
> at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:native)
> at kaffe.jar.ExecJarName.main(ExecJarName.java:70)
> at kaffe.jar.ExecJar.main(ExecJar.java:59)


 ^


You appear to be running the Kaffe JVM and not the Sun
JVM.  Kaffe is a standard RedHat/Mandrake install product.
If you don't want it remove it "rpm -e kaffe".  Else make
sure JAVA_HOME (or whatever orion uses to find java) is
pointing to the Sun jdk.


-tim

Re: ms access & Orion?

[Romen Law]

ello,

Sure it does. Just use JDBC-ODBC driver. Here is an example data-source
entry:
 


BTW, since access does not support transaction, the xa-... line above is
useless. Also when you deploy your ejb, make sure you don't use
transaction.

I use it for development and demonstration purposes on my puny lil' Win98
notebook.

cheers
romen

IT Architect, Business And Data Services
IBM GSA
TEL: 612-84484716
FAX: 612-84484008
TIE: 84716


Rafael Alvarez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@orionserver.com on 16/09/2000 01:12:14

Please respond to Orion-Interest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent by:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


To:   Orion-Interest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
cc:
Subject:  Re: ms access & Orion?



Hello faisal,

If you use the jdbc.odbc bridge, yes.

But, why do you want to use Ms Access (just curiosity)
Wednesday, February 14, 2001, 11:55:05 PM, you wrote:

f> does ms access  work with Orion
f> ?



--
Best regards,
 Rafaelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Orion & ZoneAlarm on Win2000

[hanasaki]

That didn't help for me.  I have since switched to Tiny Personal
Firewall and like it alot.

Al Heinrichs wrote:
> 
> Hey guys,
> 
> If you have Orion and ZoneAlarm installed on Windows 2000 and are getting
> the blue screen of death when you try to access Orion's home on your
> browser, it may help to install ZoneAlarm's latest release (2.144). I just
> read the "Important Information" blurb that you get when you install it, and
> it mentions that in version 2.143 they fixed a problem that would crash
> Windows 2000 with a "PAGE_FAULT_IN_NON_PAGED_AREA" blue screen. I'm going
> from memory here, but I'm sure that's the error I used to get just before my
> machine would reboot.
> 
> In my case, I did a complete reformat and reinstalled Win2000 (without SP1),
> Orion, and my other development apps. This fixed the Orion problem, but now
> I'm wondering if the ZoneAlarm update would have solved the issue with far
> less effort. Maybe someone else with this same problem could try this
> though, and post the results to the list? Based on some posts I read here
> about a month ago, I definitely wasn't the only one that ran into this.
> 
> Good luck!
> Al Heinrichs
> _
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Re: Deploy question...

[nickm]

I agree with all the points you mentioned. That is why I am here, we want to
move away form IIS as well.

Stefan

Re: ms access & Orion?

[faisal]

Thank to all of u guys
I have not been using BMP before and when i tried 
ms access it gave me a  hard time though i works sometimes
Thanks to your advice I am going to try MySQl for 
the moment
Respect
what a Great e-mailing list
faisal
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Thomas 
  Pridham 
  To: Orion-Interest 
  Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 7:01 
  PM
  Subject: RE: ms access & Orion?
  
  Two 
  other free RDMS's are:
   
  1.  Interbase (http://www.interbase.com) - originally developed 
  by Borland, now open source.  I am using this product in a commercial 
  environment.  It is a bit unstable on Linux, but runs great on 
  Win2000.  This DB has a JDBC client.  This is a cross platform 
  DB.
   
  2.  SAP DB (http://www.sap.com/solutions/technology/sapdb/) 
  - open sourced by SAP.  I have not worked with this DB yet, but I will 
  soon.  This DB also has a type 4 JDBC driver.  This is a 
  cross-platform DB.
   
  Both 
  of these databases "appear" to be industrial strength :)
  
-Original Message-From: Kemp Randy-W18971 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, February 15, 
2001 10:32 AMTo: Orion-InterestSubject: RE: ms access 
& Orion?
Is 
ms access considered an RDMS and does it have a JDBC driver?  If so, 
then it should be theoretically possible to have it work with 
Orion.   But why would you want to do this?  A better 
solution would be to work with something like Postgresql (www.postgresql.org) or Mysql (www.mysql.com), if you don't have a 
commercial database (like Oracle) available. 

  -Original Message-From: faisal 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, February 
  14, 2001 9:55 PMTo: Orion-InterestSubject: ms access 
  & Orion?
  does ms access  work with Orion 
  
  ?

Orion doesn't work.

[Geoff Marshall]

I've surfed and surfed, and can't find any info on the problem I'm having.
HELP!


All brand new:
Red Hat Linux v7, Sun J2EE 1.2.1, Sun JDK1.3, Orion 1.4.5

[geoff@daphne orion]$cd /usr/local/orion
[geoff@daphne orion]$ java -jar orion.jar
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/evermind/gui/server/ServiceConsole
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:native)
at kaffe.jar.ExecJarName.main(ExecJarName.java:70)
at kaffe.jar.ExecJar.main(ExecJar.java:59)


Obviously, I'm missing some class, but where/what is it?  The JDK/SDK seems
to be working fine i.e. I can compile and run java applications, etc.  Does
some .jar file need to be expanded???

HELP!
-- 

-Geoff Marshall, Director of Development

...
t e r r a s c o p e  (415) 951-4944
54 Mint Street, Suite 110 direct (415) 625-0349
San Francisco, CA  94103 fax (415) 625-0306
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...
t e r r a s c o p e  (415) 951-4944
54 Mint Street, Suite 110 direct (415) 625-0349
San Francisco, CA  94103 fax (415) 625-0306
...

Re: jdbc:leaked connection

[faisal]

Thanks man!  I really appreciate your 
reply
It is working fine now
Respect
faisal

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Patrik Andersson 
  To: Orion-Interest 
  Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 6:18 
  PM
  Subject: RE: jdbc:leaked connection
  
  The 
  problem can occur if you use code like:
   
  try 
  {
      Connection c = // .. aquire 
connection
      performOperation(c);
      c.close();
  } 
  catch (SQLException sqe) {
      // report error
  }
   
  Because that means that your connection will not be closed 
  if:
      1) You don't close it in the catch 
  clause
      2) You get some kind of unchecked exception: i.e: 
  java.lang.RuntimeException
  because any of those will return your function without the "c.close();" 
  having been run at all.
   
  Instead use code like:
  Connection c = null;
  try {
  c = // .. aquire 
  connection
      performOperation(c);
  } catch (SQLException sqle) 
  {
      // report error
  } 
  finally {
      if (c != null) {
  
      
  c.close();
      
  }}
  
-Original Message-From: faisal 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: den 15 februari 2001 
18:36To: Orion-InterestSubject: jdbc:leaked 
connection
 
Can u ,please, tell me what is  
this weird "leaked connection" in my code all my  connection are 
closed 
I used the Djdbc but it is no 
help
Has any  of Orion users met this  
before
thank u in advance
 
Orion/1.4.7 initializedOrionCMTConnection 
not closed, check your code!LogicalDriverManagerXAConnection not closed, 
check your code!(Use -Djdbc.connection.debug=true to find out where the 
leaked connection was created)
 
 

RE: Last posting

[Mike Cannon-Brookes]

Title: SV: Last posting



If I 
might put up an impassioned plea at this point (on behalf of Marcus, myself and 
anyone else who regularly gets Orion support questions in their personal inbox) 

 
DO NOT 
SEND YOUR QUESTIONS TO ANYONE'S PERSONAL ADDRESS WITHOUT ASKING 
THEM
 
Keep 
your questions on the list, we see them there too.
 
-mike

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Magnus 
  RydinSent: Friday, February 16, 2001 12:49 AMTo: 
  Orion-InterestSubject: SV: Last posting
  Whoa! Hold your mails! Hold your 
  mails! Im just a contributor like the rest of you 
  :) WR 
  > -Ursprungligt meddelande- > Från: Johan Fredriksson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  > Skickat: den 15 februari 2001 05:17 > Till: Orion-Interest > Ämne: Re: Last 
  posting > > 
  > If you don't get your answer within 2-3 days, 
  people don't > know the answer. > If that is the case, try to get in contact with Magnus Rydin 
  > or someone else > in 
  the Orion team. I know it is very difficult to get in > touch with them, > and I guess time 
  zone differences are making it worse, but if > you 
  do you > usually get the answer you need instantly. 
  Not always the > answer you want... 
  > But that's something else. > 
  > As a little hint in comparing Orion to any other 
  J2EE > application server out > there, Orion is the one that gets you up and running with 
  > least effort. It > is 
  even easier than Suns reference implementation, but then I > have installed > Orion 10-20 times, so 
  I'm not sure if I'm being objective. > 
  > Long complicated questions on this list seems to 
  get by > without answers, > especially if they are not very precise. And as Bronwen 
  > Cassidy said very > 
  insightfully : ...this is more a  "I HOPE SOMEONE ANSWERS" 
  forum... > > 
  > > - Original 
  Message - > From: "Cliff Rowley" 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Orion-Interest" 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: 
  Thursday, February 15, 2001 11:37 AM > Subject: RE: 
  Last posting > > 
  > > Tim, thankyou for your mature and decent 
  reply - it is very much > > appreciated. 
  > > > > I must apologise 
  for being rather obtrusive, I am almost > ready to 
  crack > and > > 'let 
  them take me away', and everyone seems to be taking a > fair whack from > > it just 
  recently.  Some people react like bulldogs, and > some people care > to > > remember they are dealing with real people with real 
  problems. > > > > 
  Sorry if I caused you any displeasure. > 
  > > > Cliff > 
  > > > > -Original Message- 
  > > > From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On 
  Behalf Of > Tim Endres > 
  > > Sent: 15 February 2001 03:22 > > > 
  To: Orion-Interest > > > Subject: Re: Last 
  posting > > > > 
  > > > > > Cliff, > > > > > > I think your 
  posting was sufficiently complex and general > that 
  it was > > > unlikely to generate a reponse. 
  Speaking for myself, but > suspecting 
  > > > that it applies to other "professionals", I am 
  very busy, > and do not > > > have the time to devote to such a response. 
  Sorry. > > > > 
  > > However, I believe you would be more likely to get a 
  > reply if you try > 
  > > asking specific questions. > > 
  > > > > tim. > 
  > > > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED 
  MESSAGE- > > > > Hash: SHA1 
  > > > > > > > 
  > Pardon me if I sound a little rude, but since not a > single person has > > > > even 
  acknowledged my last post, do I assume that (a) > 
  noone cares or > > > > (b) noone 
  knows?  I am very keen to get started, and > 
  very keen to > > > > evaluate the various 
  avenues open to us, and I had expected a > > 
  > > commercial application to have a reasonably > professional following. > > > 
  > Perhaps I was mistaken and I should look elsewhere? > > > > > > > > Cliff 
  Rowley > > > > > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > > > Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use 
   > > > > > > 
  iQA/AwUBOosbgApjs58+bOhlEQKwigCgnaxMsVQAHoiFpkfbNk48fqTDWXsAoMNy 
  > > > HxbYNGGXjPNB/neGWBPbq8yf > > > =RK40 > > > -END 
  PGP SIGNATURE- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 

how to restrict access to an orion application using IP address

[Korosh Afshar]

I need to deny access to our orion ejb application from external IP
addresses.

I know about firewall options I have, but wish to know how to do this at IP
level.

is there any files that I can modify so that the orion web server only
services request from specific internal IP addresses?


tia
k.















"Your mouse has moved, Windows must be restarted for changes to take
effect."

RE: Not authorized to view this page

[Adamson, Scott]

Title: SV: Not authorized to view this page



I 
found the problem, it seem that the global-web-application.xml supplied in the 
tutorial didn't have an entry for html, I added it. Also had to rename index.htm 
to index.html, a little disapointing to have these hassles considering that were 
talking about a comercial product.

  -Original Message-From: Magnus Rydin 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 
  6:24 PMTo: Orion-InterestSubject: SV: Not authorized to 
  view this page
  Are the pages protected? Have you 
  added a entry to your principals.xml for the app? What 
  version of Orion are you running? More information 
  needed. WR 
  > -Ursprungligt meddelande- > Från: Adamson, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  > Skickat: den 14 februari 2001 16:05 > Till: Orion-Interest > Ämne: Not 
  authorized to view this page > > > I get the message 'Not authorized to 
  view this page' when > trying to run the 
  > addressbook example from the CMP primer. I believe Orion 
  is working > correctly as I can run the 
  orion-primer example. Any help > much 
  appreciated. > > 
  > > Come on !! Someone 
  must have had a similar problem, I'm > running 
  Orion on Win > NT workstation > trying to access the pge from the same machine, how can I not 
  > have access to > 
  something on my own machine ?? > 
  > I've tried loging in as admin (normal account 
  should have admin rights > anyway !) no difference. 
  If any Orion support people monitor this list > 
  please help as I'm evaluating Orion with the view to > deploying it within a > 10 server 
  cluster ($$$). > > regards, > Scott. > > 

Re: Deploy question...

[nickm]

I appreciate the support, I realise that Orion is not charging huge CASH$
and as such is more limited as to the support they can provide. But, I think
that providing details on application deployment to make it easy for people
would go a long way to getting the server on the map and making the Orion
people a few bucks.

 Microsoft is huge commercial success for making their products easy to use
for the most part. I am not a fan and I have many beef's with their many
times buggy products but none the less, they are easy to install and run
with and that makes them the number one money maker.

I hope my point is well taken,

Stefan

Orion doesn't work.

[Geoff Marshall]

I've surfed and surfed, and can't find any info on the problem I'm having.
HELP!


All brand new:
Red Hat Linux v7, Sun J2EE 1.2.1, Sun JDK1.3, Orion 1.4.5

[geoff@daphne orion]$cd /usr/local/orion
[geoff@daphne orion]$ java -jar orion.jar
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/evermind/gui/server/ServiceConsole
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:native)
at kaffe.jar.ExecJarName.main(ExecJarName.java:70)
at kaffe.jar.ExecJar.main(ExecJar.java:59)


Obviously, I'm missing some class, but where/what is it?  The JDK/SDK seems
to be working fine i.e. I can compile and run java applications, etc.  Does
some .jar file need to be expanded???

HELP!
-- 

-Geoff Marshall, Director of Development

...
t e r r a s c o p e  (415) 951-4944
54 Mint Street, Suite 110 direct (415) 625-0349
San Francisco, CA  94103 fax (415) 625-0306
...

Re: Deploy question...

[nickm]

Funny guy! Where do you map the IP to an application? I am having confusion
in that in IIS/ASP the web site is the web application. In J2EE I think
there is potentially a difference? Or am I wrong with this too?

Stefan

Re: product demo with oracle

[John Hogan]

pilot error, never mind.  It's working fine now.  Thanks

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RE: Deploy question...

[Mike Bosch]

I'm at a company where we are currently using IIS (hopefully for not much
longer!) and although it is initially easier to setup a *single* server with
a number of virtual directories it is a real pain if you have a decently
large server farm that you are going to have to replicate this configuration
to.

There aren't any *good* tools out there for replicating the IIS Metabase
from machine to machine and when you have about 15 web sites per server and
they all have 5 or so virtual directories, setting up a new web server is a
real pain.  And don't get me started on how many times the metabase has
gotten corrupted and caused us to just start over.

I'll take text-file based configuration any day as its very simple to just
zip up the configuration files and drop them onto another machine in the
cluster, make a few minor changes here and there and you're done.  Yes,
there is a little more initial overhead but in the long run it will save me
a lot of time.

It all comes down to the complexity of the deployment you have to worry
about but in my opinion and experience IIS is just not built to handle
complex web-sites very well.  Sure, it may be able to, but it doesn't make
it easy.

-Mike

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 6:25 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: Deploy question...


That aint no stupid question, Orion application deployment has been very
difficult for me. It's not like IIS where you create your virtual directory
and drop in your files accordingly, map it to an ip and it works!

S

RE: ms access & Orion?

[SureTicket.com]

There 
is a package that comes with JDK1.3 called "sun.jdbc.odbc", use diver located in 
that package.
First 
u need to configure ODBC DataSource on your server, its located in Control 
Panel.
Then u 
can use "sun.jdbc.odbc.JdbcOdbcDriver" to connect to it. If you are using it 
with Orion, i suggest
for 
you to configure Orion's DataSource, configure it in /config/DataSources.xml, 
then u can access it from a
servlets+ejbs. If you have problem configuring Orion's 
DataSource go to www.orionsupport.com 
it has all
information/examples you need.
 
Hope 
this helps
 
-Anton 
aka sigg-

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kemp 
  Randy-W18971Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 10:32 
  AMTo: Orion-InterestSubject: RE: ms access & 
  Orion?
  Is 
  ms access considered an RDMS and does it have a JDBC driver?  If so, then 
  it should be theoretically possible to have it work with Orion.   
  But why would you want to do this?  A better solution would be to work 
  with something like Postgresql (www.postgresql.org) or Mysql (www.mysql.com), if you don't have a commercial 
  database (like Oracle) available. 
  
-Original Message-From: faisal 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, February 
14, 2001 9:55 PMTo: Orion-InterestSubject: ms access 
& Orion?
does ms access  work with Orion 

?

RE: ms access & Orion?

[Thomas Pridham]

Two 
other free RDMS's are:
 
1.  Interbase (http://www.interbase.com) - originally developed by 
Borland, now open source.  I am using this product in a commercial 
environment.  It is a bit unstable on Linux, but runs great on 
Win2000.  This DB has a JDBC client.  This is a cross platform 
DB.
 
2.  SAP DB (http://www.sap.com/solutions/technology/sapdb/) 
- open sourced by SAP.  I have not worked with this DB yet, but I will 
soon.  This DB also has a type 4 JDBC driver.  This is a 
cross-platform DB.
 
Both 
of these databases "appear" to be industrial strength :)

  -Original Message-From: Kemp Randy-W18971 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 
  10:32 AMTo: Orion-InterestSubject: RE: ms access & 
  Orion?
  Is 
  ms access considered an RDMS and does it have a JDBC driver?  If so, then 
  it should be theoretically possible to have it work with Orion.   
  But why would you want to do this?  A better solution would be to work 
  with something like Postgresql (www.postgresql.org) or Mysql (www.mysql.com), if you don't have a commercial 
  database (like Oracle) available. 
  
-Original Message-From: faisal 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, February 
14, 2001 9:55 PMTo: Orion-InterestSubject: ms access 
& Orion?
does ms access  work with Orion 

?

RE: Security between applications?

[Kemp Randy-W18971]

Cliff:
  Sometimes, when things get heated up, you need to just step back before emotion 
overrules you.  The fact that you are using the Resin/ Jboss combination says a lot 
about your good taste and wise judgment.  But once something emotional is put into 
print, people get offended, and start firing back.  It's normal -- it's human nature.  
It happened with the book The Satanic Verses by Salman Rushdie, which got him a death 
sentence from Iran.  Yet I don't condemn the Muslim faith because of it, since I have 
met some wonderful Muslims, who  helped me to understand more of their faith, and the 
common elements with Jewish and Christian traditions. 
Randy

-Original Message-
From: Cliff Rowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 10:18 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: Security between applications?


 
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Weblogic is next on the list, the only problem being that I am
funding this entirely myself until we have a solid enough
presentation to try for investment (and one of my own machines is
looking more like a colo every day :\).  We're not giving up hope
yet!

Currently I'm looking at a JBoss/Resin combination, as they both
offer certain features I'm keen to employ.  I run Resin on my
development BSD box, and I am impressed with its simple yet powerful
configuration, which enables me to easily auto-generate it, and JBoss
has some very nifty hot deployment features and I believe I can
secure it at EJB level as well as connection level using its JAAS
support
(http://www.jboss.org/newsite/documentation/HTML/ch08s32.html).

- ---
I'd like to apologise to anyone offended by my earlier postings, I
was out of line - and I perhaps deserved the reception I received.  I
dont think I deserved being called a fool, however, since I am not. 
I defy anyone to say they've never done anything irrational under
stress.

I'd also like to thank those who saw through it and answered in a
mature and professional manner, and I hope they forgive my outburst.
- ---

Cliff

> -Original Message-
> From: Konstantin Polyzois [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 15 February 2001 16:04
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: Security between applications?
> 
> 
> Securing datasources is no match for Weblogic. I do not know how
> Orion handles this.
> /korre
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Cliff Rowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: den 13 februari 2001 20:09
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: Security between applications?
> 
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> We are currently evaluating the various J2EE solutions available
> for a venture that we hope to deliver to the world in a few months.
>  Whilst reading the documentation for each, I dont appear to be
> able to configure Orion to suit the way the project will work.
> 
> In order for our application to be of any use, we need to be able
> to implement a fair amount of security, since JSP pages may be at 
> the mercy of
> people who are not us.
> 
> Basically the application will provide a farm of hosts on which we
> will be offering certain services.  Each application needs to have
> a data source that it, and only it has access to.  The current
> problem as I see  it is that
> if I define a connection in data-sources.xml, then every web
> application deployed on the server or cluster of servers has access
> to it.  
> We need some
> way of securing that while still being able to use EJB in all its 
> glory.  We
> need to be able to offer the opportunity of creating and editing 
> content without compromising the security of other applications on
> the system.  
> 
> Could anyone give us some tips and pointers on this?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Cliff Rowley
> 
> 

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Solution: MIME-types [off topic]

[Konstantin Polyzois]

Thank's to Roger Mosher! This works...

/korre

-Original Message-
From: Roger Mosher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: den 15 februari 2001 13:43
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: MIME-types [off topic]


K.
Granted I am not distributing XML so I set the content type to
"application/zip", but the trick to get the SAVE AS dialog for me was the
Content-Dispostion header. My code (in a servlet) goes something like
this...

response.setContentType("application/zip");
response.setContentLength(len);

response.setHeader("Content-Disposition","attachment;filename=\"somename.ext
\" ");

Works most of the time except certain buggy versions of IE 5.5 for which
a patch is available from Microsoft (so I believe).

Hope this helps?



- Original Message -
From: "Konstantin Polyzois" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Orion-Interest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 5:34 AM
Subject: MIME-types [off topic]


> This is a little off topic...
>
> I am developing an app where there will be some xml-files generated. I
want
> the user to save these to his hard drive. The problem is that Internet
> Exploder always displays xml. Is there some MIME type or some trick to
make
> Exploder pop up a "save as dialog" instead? I have thought about letting
the
> user "right click" an anchor and letting him "choose save target as.." but
I
> think it is a little uggly.
>
> /korre
>

RE: jdbc:leaked connection

[Patrik Andersson]

The 
problem can occur if you use code like:
 
try 
{
    Connection c = // .. aquire connection
    performOperation(c);
    c.close();
} 
catch (SQLException sqe) {
    // report error
}
 
Because that means that your connection will not be closed 
if:
    1) You don't close it in the catch 
clause
    2) You get some kind of unchecked exception: i.e: 
java.lang.RuntimeException
because any of those will return your function without the "c.close();" 
having been run at all.
 
Instead use code like:
Connection c = null;
try {
c = // .. aquire 
connection
    performOperation(c);
} catch (SQLException sqle) 
{
    // report error
} 
finally {
    if (c != null) {

    
c.close();
    
}}

  -Original Message-From: faisal 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: den 15 februari 2001 
  18:36To: Orion-InterestSubject: jdbc:leaked 
  connection
   
  Can u ,please, tell me what is  
  this weird "leaked connection" in my code all my  connection are 
  closed 
  I used the Djdbc but it is no 
  help
  Has any  of Orion users met this  
  before
  thank u in advance
   
  Orion/1.4.7 initializedOrionCMTConnection not 
  closed, check your code!LogicalDriverManagerXAConnection not closed, check 
  your code!(Use -Djdbc.connection.debug=true to find out where the leaked 
  connection was created)
   
   

jdbc:leaked connection

[faisal]

 
Can u ,please, tell me what is  
this weird "leaked connection" in my code all my  connection are 
closed 
I used the Djdbc but it is no help
Has any  of Orion users met this  
before
thank u in advance
 
Orion/1.4.7 initializedOrionCMTConnection not 
closed, check your code!LogicalDriverManagerXAConnection not closed, check 
your code!(Use -Djdbc.connection.debug=true to find out where the leaked 
connection was created)
 
 

Orion trying to connect to network

[scott . elmer]

I'm trying to get Orion to work on a stand-alone machine without a network
connection except for dial-up access.  Every time I start orion it tries to
connect using the dial-up networking.  If I cancel it, it will start, but it
takes about 5 minutes.  If I'm already on-line, start-up only takes about 20
seconds.

This is on a Windows 95 machine.  There's nothing in the archives or FAQ
about this problem.

Any idea why orion needs a network connection and takes so long if it
doesn't get one?  How can I get it to start in 20 seconds without dialing up
each time?

Thanks in advance,

Scott

Orion & ZoneAlarm on Win2000

[Al Heinrichs]

Hey guys,

If you have Orion and ZoneAlarm installed on Windows 2000 and are getting 
the blue screen of death when you try to access Orion's home on your 
browser, it may help to install ZoneAlarm's latest release (2.144). I just 
read the "Important Information" blurb that you get when you install it, and 
it mentions that in version 2.143 they fixed a problem that would crash 
Windows 2000 with a "PAGE_FAULT_IN_NON_PAGED_AREA" blue screen. I'm going 
from memory here, but I'm sure that's the error I used to get just before my 
machine would reboot.

In my case, I did a complete reformat and reinstalled Win2000 (without SP1), 
Orion, and my other development apps. This fixed the Orion problem, but now 
I'm wondering if the ZoneAlarm update would have solved the issue with far 
less effort. Maybe someone else with this same problem could try this 
though, and post the results to the list? Based on some posts I read here 
about a month ago, I definitely wasn't the only one that ran into this.

Good luck!
Al Heinrichs
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RE: Deploy question...

[Kemp Randy-W18971]

Nick:
  Don't feel stupid here.  The biggest issue I have with Orion is the terrible 
documentation.  Granted, we can play with it (like I and others did), but newcomers 
need to be encouraged to use it, and get up to speed.  I have seen the new Jboss 
manual from their site (www.jboss.org) and it is looking very good.  The open source 
databases, mysql (www.mysql.com) has excellent documentation, and postgresql 
(www.postgresql.org) has pretty good documentation.  Orion, are you listening?
  Anyway, look at the examples at www.jollem.com, the support site at 
www.orionsupport.com and their own documentation and faq at www.orionserver.com.
Randy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 8:25 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: Deploy question...


That aint no stupid question, Orion application deployment has been very
difficult for me. It's not like IIS where you create your virtual directory
and drop in your files accordingly, map it to an ip and it works!

S

RE: Security between applications?

[Cliff Rowley]

 
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Weblogic is next on the list, the only problem being that I am
funding this entirely myself until we have a solid enough
presentation to try for investment (and one of my own machines is
looking more like a colo every day :\).  We're not giving up hope
yet!

Currently I'm looking at a JBoss/Resin combination, as they both
offer certain features I'm keen to employ.  I run Resin on my
development BSD box, and I am impressed with its simple yet powerful
configuration, which enables me to easily auto-generate it, and JBoss
has some very nifty hot deployment features and I believe I can
secure it at EJB level as well as connection level using its JAAS
support
(http://www.jboss.org/newsite/documentation/HTML/ch08s32.html).

- ---
I'd like to apologise to anyone offended by my earlier postings, I
was out of line - and I perhaps deserved the reception I received.  I
dont think I deserved being called a fool, however, since I am not. 
I defy anyone to say they've never done anything irrational under
stress.

I'd also like to thank those who saw through it and answered in a
mature and professional manner, and I hope they forgive my outburst.
- ---

Cliff

> -Original Message-
> From: Konstantin Polyzois [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 15 February 2001 16:04
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: Security between applications?
> 
> 
> Securing datasources is no match for Weblogic. I do not know how
> Orion handles this.
> /korre
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Cliff Rowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: den 13 februari 2001 20:09
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: Security between applications?
> 
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> We are currently evaluating the various J2EE solutions available
> for a venture that we hope to deliver to the world in a few months.
>  Whilst reading the documentation for each, I dont appear to be
> able to configure Orion to suit the way the project will work.
> 
> In order for our application to be of any use, we need to be able
> to implement a fair amount of security, since JSP pages may be at 
> the mercy of
> people who are not us.
> 
> Basically the application will provide a farm of hosts on which we
> will be offering certain services.  Each application needs to have
> a data source that it, and only it has access to.  The current
> problem as I see  it is that
> if I define a connection in data-sources.xml, then every web
> application deployed on the server or cluster of servers has access
> to it.  
> We need some
> way of securing that while still being able to use EJB in all its 
> glory.  We
> need to be able to offer the opportunity of creating and editing 
> content without compromising the security of other applications on
> the system.  
> 
> Could anyone give us some tips and pointers on this?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Cliff Rowley
> 
> 

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product demo with oracle

[John Hogan]

All,

I'm working the product demo and have apparently encountered a bit of 
difficulty with deployment.  I'm using the steps defined for product 
demo (http://www.orionserver.com/docs/ejbexamples/) and am seeing two 
things that aren't right (below).  Also, I've set up a new Oracle 
datasource and created a new table for this ejb.  

The scenario in the demo doesn't cover adding a new data source and 
there also seems to be some changes needed to the xml in the 
application-deployments directory.  Can someone fill me in.  TIA.

JohnH

1)  The Orion console reports a Hypersonic sql error at startup even 
though the Hypersonic is not referenced in data-sources.xml.
ERROR TEXT
Auto-deploying product (New server version detected)... Error
compiling file:/C: /orion/demo/ejb/product/: No DataSource 
found at jdbc/HypersonicDS
Orion/1.4.7 initialized
2)  I get another error when envoking ProductClient relating to the 
home interface.
ERROR TEXT
C:\orion\demo\ejb\product>java -
classpath .;..\..\..\orion.jar;
..\..\..\ejb.jar;
..\..\..\jndi.jar ProductClient
Communication error: Error reading 
application-client descriptor: No EJBHome found
at MyProduct as specified by ejb-ref MyProduct

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RE: Security between applications?

[Konstantin Polyzois]

Securing datasources is no match for Weblogic. I do not know how Orion
handles this.
/korre

-Original Message-
From: Cliff Rowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: den 13 februari 2001 20:09
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Security between applications?


Greetings,

We are currently evaluating the various J2EE solutions available for a
venture that we hope to deliver to the world in a few months.  Whilst
reading the documentation for each, I dont appear to be able to configure
Orion to suit the way the project will work.

In order for our application to be of any use, we need to be able to
implement a fair amount of security, since JSP pages may be at the mercy of
people who are not us.

Basically the application will provide a farm of hosts on which we will be
offering certain services.  Each application needs to have a data source
that it, and only it has access to.  The current problem as I see it is that
if I define a connection in data-sources.xml, then every web application
deployed on the server or cluster of servers has access to it.  We need some
way of securing that while still being able to use EJB in all its glory.  We
need to be able to offer the opportunity of creating and editing  content
without compromising the security of other applications on the system.

Could anyone give us some tips and pointers on this?

Thanks

Cliff Rowley

RE: Last posting

[Robert S. Sfeir]

WOW... Is this still the Orion List I'm on?  I didn't know we changed to a 
Men's group.  Anyone want to rest their head on my shoulder?  (Ok now I 
asked for it. For my next question I expect the flames will burn high)

Come on folks we all take a beating at some point as rookies and as 
experts.  I took a few shots, I learned, I looked stupid, I learned, and 
now I don't look as stupid, and I'm still learning.  Don't have the answers 
you want here?  it seems Orion is J2EE compliant...  follow the stupid blue 
print and you'll know what's going on now, and what's going to happen in 
the future.  Read the whole darn Java Developer sun site, your answers are 
most likely in there, most of them anyway.  There are infinite resources on 
the net to get answers.  Don't just rely on one group.

If anyone situation is so bad that there is so much pressure on you because 
of work, then you're in the wrong job, and you're letting yourself be taken 
advantage of.  We're Java engineers folks, and last I checked we're still a 
commodity, and last I checked the unemployment rate around this neck of the 
woods was very low (in the negatives for engineers)...  so why am I saying 
all this... Get another stupid job if you're that freaked out!

R


Robert S. Sfeir
Director of Software Development
PERCEPTICON corporation
San Francisco, CA 94123
w - http://www.percepticon.com/
e- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
t - (415) 749-2900 x205

Re: One Build.xml

[Porfiriev Sergey]

U don't need to build ear every time to test 
application
 
In your application.xml write
 
   
  
 
SOME_DIR-web 
/  
   
so you will get:
 
APPLICATION-DIR/
  META-INF/
 
Application.xml
  SOME_DIR-web/
  your_ejb_here
 
I use Ant for ejb building, but ANT have a bug in 
ejbjar task
i've made a little patch to 
"Ant.src/src/main/org/apache/tools/ant/taskdefs/optional/ejb/DescriptorHandler.java 
"
 
    if 
(!className.startsWith("java.lang")) 
{    
// Translate periods into path separators, add .class to 
the    
// name, create the File object and add it to the Hashtable.
// Parf's patch here
//    
className = className.replace('.', 
File.separatorChar);    
className = className.replace('.', '/');
    
className += ".class";
 
So your build.xml will look like this 
one:
 
     
srcdir="${build}"  
destdir="${ejb}"  
basenameterminator="."  
genericjarsuffix=".jar"  
flatdestdir="true"  
>    
  
             
  
Make_Application_Xml.pl - simple perl script for 
auto generating Application.xml:

  
my $jars;
for(`ls /e-mall/*.jar`) 
{ s/.*\///; chomp; $jars.="  
$_\n" 
;}
open 
F,">/e-mall/META-INF/application.xml";
print F 
   
Axwell Portal
$jars
   
  
 
e-mall-web 
/  
   
EOF
close 
F;
Ant will search for all *.ejb-jar.xml's 
and make them (only home,remote & bean libs)
To include other files make a application side 
library: 
something like this:
            
   
 ..    
  
 
Btw there is another bug in Parser.jar that comes 
with Ant,
when it locates string like this in xml declaration 
it tryes to get dtd from given location

I've decompiled and patched this too. - Speed 
increase more than 20x.
 
Now it takes only 5 sec for me to compile, build 
and install any beans/servlets with orion & Ant.
 
BTW: if u like to build a ear add a simple jar task 
for war and jar task for ejb library
 
- Original Message - 

  From: 
  faisal 
  To: Orion-Interest 
  Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 5:47 
  AM
  Subject: One Build.xml
  
  Hi Guys
  Has any of Orion gurus found a way to use 
  tha same build.xml that more or less can be adapted to create diff 
  ejb.ear
  if it is possible  it will save loads 
  of time
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

R: EJB 2.0

[DeVincentiis Giustino]

It seems to me that Orion does not yet support EJB-QL neither EJB 2.0
many-to-many relationships.
However, if you are interested in EJB 2.0 and finders, you may have a look
at http://www.orionsupport.com/.

Giustino De Vincentiis

-Messaggio originale-
Da: Marc Rabil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Inviato: giovedì 15 febbraio 2001 16.08
A: Orion-Interest
Oggetto: EJB 2.0


It's not clear looking through the documentation how much of EJB 2.0 Orion
currently supports.  Specifically, I am interested in using CMP and EJB QL
to do advanced queries of a multi-table database.  Best I can understand the
current technology, I have 2 choices: 1) use findAll() a lot and combine the
results in Java code or 2) bypass CMP and write my own SQL statements.

Any help/insight will be greatly appreciated.

Marc Rabil

RE: ms access & Orion?

[Kemp Randy-W18971]

Is ms 
access considered an RDMS and does it have a JDBC driver?  If so, then it 
should be theoretically possible to have it work with Orion.   But why 
would you want to do this?  A better solution would be to work with 
something like Postgresql (www.postgresql.org) or Mysql (www.mysql.com), if you don't have a commercial 
database (like Oracle) available.  

  -Original Message-From: faisal 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 
  2001 9:55 PMTo: Orion-InterestSubject: ms access & 
  Orion?
  does ms access  work with Orion 

  ?

Re: ms access & Orion?

[Rafael Alvarez]

Hello faisal,

If you use the jdbc.odbc bridge, yes.

But, why do you want to use Ms Access (just curiosity)
Wednesday, February 14, 2001, 11:55:05 PM, you wrote:

f> does ms access  work with Orion 
f> ?



-- 
Best regards,
 Rafaelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Deploy question...

[Joseph B. Ottinger]

Of course, IIS is also using fundamentally different technology with
fundamentally different approach. For me, application deployment is
absurdly simple: I drop in a file, create a mapping to the application,
then point a url to the application, and it works. Oh, wait, that's pretty
much what you said, too.

On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> That aint no stupid question, Orion application deployment has been very
> difficult for me. It's not like IIS where you create your virtual directory
> and drop in your files accordingly, map it to an ip and it works!
> 
> S
> 
> 

---
Joseph B. Ottinger   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://epesh.com/ IT Consultant

Faster EJB Deployment using fastjavac

[Rafael Alvarez]

I have tried the java compiler that comes with Forte For Java CE 2.0
(fastjavac) and it cut the deployment time of 50 EJB (a mix of
entity and sessions) from 1 minute to 15 secs!

I'm developing under win 2k, orion 1.3.8.
Some one can test it under unix?

My 2 cents

EJB 2.0

[Marc Rabil]

It's not clear looking through the documentation how much of EJB 2.0 Orion
currently supports.  Specifically, I am interested in using CMP and EJB QL
to do advanced queries of a multi-table database.  Best I can understand the
current technology, I have 2 choices: 1) use findAll() a lot and combine the
results in Java code or 2) bypass CMP and write my own SQL statements.

Any help/insight will be greatly appreciated.

Marc Rabil

Re: Deploy question...

[nickm]

That aint no stupid question, Orion application deployment has been very
difficult for me. It's not like IIS where you create your virtual directory
and drop in your files accordingly, map it to an ip and it works!

S

RE: How does this effect Orion?

[Kemp Randy-W18971]

Orion is certainly competitive and may even be a better product (personally, I think 
it's an excellent product).  However, developers need to obtain funding from 
management, who sometimes don't know what an EJB is.  When I point out these issues, 
like the support and documentation the competitor is bringing to the table, I am just 
issuing a wake up call to Orion.  In essence, I am saying to beef up the documentation 
and get the support structure in place, in order to battle them on their home turf.  

-Original Message-
From: Mike Cannon-Brookes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 4:10 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: How does this effect Orion?


"I did talk with someone from the company, and he said the product is ready
to take on the big guns."

I agree with the rest, Orion should be worried about support and
documentation more, but this statement seems a little silly. Who would ever
say that their product wasn't competitive ? ;)

-mike

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kemp
> Randy-W18971
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 8:13 AM
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: RE: How does this effect Orion?
>
>
> While the higher price for everything Orion offers is correct, it
> also comes with excellent documentation, and supposedly excellent
> support, from a company that has been in business for twenty
> years, and has international offices.  You can also load a
> non-timeout edition with limited concurrency for free.  I think
> the support, documentation, size, and longevity of the company
> should be a concern for Orion (as well as open source contenders
> like Jboss or openejb). I did talk with someone from the company,
> and he said the product is ready to take on the big guns.  It
> should be interesting to see how everything settles in the next
> year or so.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ray Harrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 12:19 PM
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: Re: How does this effect Orion?
>
>
> It costs $2500/cpu for almost reaching the level of what Orion
> offers. Development version is
> somewhat limited, though you could download the 30 day trial for
> your stress testing, I suppose.
> I'm certainly interested in what shakes out in the industry over
> the next year or so...
>
>
> --- Kemp Randy-W18971 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have read the announcement at www.theserverside.com about the
> ewave server for only $595 per
> > CPU.  The company marketing it has a good marketing and capital
> engine behind them, so I wonder
> > how this will effect Orion?  It is very interesting that there
> are over thirty vendors offering
> > some flavor of J2EE technology, anywhere from the high priced
> servers like Weblogic to the open
> > source servers like Jboss.  Yet this industry is supposed to be
> around $2 billion now and
> > projected to be $12 billion in two years.  This means there is
> a market for all the "good"
> > products, and the consumer and developer will become the clear
> winners.
> >
>
>
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RE: How does this effect Orion?

[Kemp Randy-W18971]

The EJB 2.0 support is a big unknown, but they have to have it in order to compete.  
Orion has preliminary support for it, Jboss (www.jboss.org) will have preliminary 
support in a month or two with 2.1, and openejb (www.openejb.org) is building their 
product line around it.  Since they are competing with these products, they have to 
have it or die. 

-Original Message-
From: Jim Archer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 7:53 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: How does this effect Orion?


The EJB 2.0 support is my big question. Currently, there is none.

Jim

--On Wednesday, February 14, 2001 3:37 PM -0800 Jeff Schnitzer 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> That's an interesting question.  The investor story is not good - they
> recently terminated their CEO/President and CFO, restated a year of
> earnings (which put them in the red), and reduced their heacount from
> 132 to 106.  Their stock, which was trading ~$20 this time last year, is
> now at $0.31.  New Atlanta backed out of their stock-based acquisition
> arrangement, although Unify is still bundling ServletExec.  It looks
> bleak.
>
> How is their EJB 2.0 support?  I'm guessing that quite a few J2EE
> providers are going to be shaken out in this transition.  There's no way
> a market will continue to support thirty people selling the same thing.
>
> Jeff
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Kemp Randy-W18971 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 7:10 AM
>> To: Orion-Interest
>> Subject: How does this effect Orion?
>>
>>
>> I have read the announcement at www.theserverside.com about
>> the ewave server for only $595 per CPU.  The company marketing
>> it has a good marketing and capital engine behind them, so I
>> wonder how this will effect Orion?  It is very interesting
>> that there are over thirty vendors offering some flavor of
>> J2EE technology, anywhere from the high priced servers like
>> Weblogic to the open source servers like Jboss.  Yet this
>> industry is supposed to be around $2 billion now and projected
>> to be $12 billion in two years.  This means there is a market
>> for all the "good" products, and the consumer and developer
>> will become the clear winners.
>>
>>




I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I -
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.

- Robert Frost, 1916

RE: Last posting

[Kemp Randy-W18971]

Cliff:
   I have been on this list for several months, and I have found the list police, 
helpful, and useful.  The only time I have seen this list react negatively is in a 
defensive stance, where some user has started a non polite stance.  For example, 
someone once asked how they can get off this &%$#@!&*( list, which would certainly 
provoke a negative reaction.  Most people on a list like the product, and are there to 
help, both newcomers and experts alike.  Most lists, whether Orion, Jboss, Tomcat, 
Apache, Mysql, Postgresql, Jonas, Python, etc., usually strive to be polite and 
helpful, but nobody is being paid to do so.  
Randy

-Original Message-
From: Joseph B. Ottinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 5:23 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: Last posting


Cliff, being cynical... it doesn't matter to us. If you think that a user
community is reponsible for your issues, that's great! You're in deep
trouble, and you're just going to get stuck with a less efficient
platform. No skin off of our noses - we'll have competitive advantages.

Pointless postings? We've been talking about something near and dear to
our hearts - how Orion is looking at the FUTURE, not just how it looks at
one developer who's gotten himself into a crack. Maybe the future's more
important to us than someone who landed himself in a lot of pressure. I
feel for you - sort of - in that I'm the sole provider for my family, too,
and I have the burden of making sure that the user support you bitch about
so much is, in fact, available. Do I cry? Do I whine? (Yes, but that's
irrelevant.) Do I let the positions of others affect objective
evaluation? Do I expect a set of volunteers with their own problems to pay
attention to me me me me me ME ME ME [ME] [ME] [ME DAMMIT ME]?

Grow up, dude. 

On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Cliff Rowley wrote:

> Thankyou for making our decision for us.  Orion will not be our
> choice of J2EE platform, as our evaluation has shown that its users
> are rude and obnoxious.  We have decided that it would not be in our
> best interest to be associated with people of this nature.
> 
> Whilst everyone is flustering over rather pointless postings (as is
> my observation over the last couple of days), real potential Orion
> customers are being turned away by its self obsessed (and somewhat
> childish) user group.
> 
> I asked a question, and was ignored.  It was quite obvious from my
> question that I am under a fair amount of pressure, and I had
> (wrongly) presumed that a commercial application server would have a
> reasonably professional following.
> 
> Let me also point out that it was not arrogance, it was a cry for
> help.  I currently close to redundancy, I have a wife who is 6 months
> pregnant, and I have a 2 year old daughter.  Forgive me for appearing
> a little stressed as I try to feed and clothe them, but it was not
> something I had wished to share.
> 
> But I guess you wouldnt care, seeing as you're a typical
> newsgroup/mailing list troll - we've seen you before, in various
> forms, under various names.  Always the one to jump on the weak
> whenever the opportunity arises.  And you have the cheek to call me
> arrogant?
> 
> You're forgotten about already.
> 
> . o O ( Wonders where the 'human' element dissapeared to in all of
> this - bring back the old Internet )
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike
> > Cannon-Brookes
> > Sent: 15 February 2001 01:27
> > To: Orion-Interest
> > Subject: RE: Last posting
> > 
> > 
> > This is one of the most arrogant postings I've ever seen on a
> > public user mailing list.
> > 
> > 
> > Cliff, might I profer my humblest apologies for not acknowledging 
> > your post,
> > I'll make sure next time to send you an email saying that I got it.
> > Right.  
> > 
> > In addition, I agree that not answering YOUR query calls into
> > question the professionalism of everyone on this list.
> > 
> > You are not mistaken at all. You are a fool.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -mike
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cliff
> > > Rowley Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 10:58 AM
> > > To: Orion-Interest
> > > Subject: Last posting
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > > Hash: SHA1
> > >
> > > Pardon me if I sound a little rude, but since not a single person
> > > has even acknowledged my last post, do I assume that (a) noone
> > > cares or (b) noone knows?  I am very keen to get started, and
> > > very keen to evaluate the various avenues open to us, and I had
> > > expected a
> > > commercial application to have a reasonably professional
> > > following. Perhaps I was mistaken and I should look elsewhere?
> > >
> > > Cliff Rowley
> > >
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SV: Last posting

[Magnus Rydin]

Title: SV: Last posting





Whoa!
Hold your mails! Hold your mails!
Im just a contributor like the rest of you :)
WR


> -Ursprungligt meddelande-
> Från: Johan Fredriksson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Skickat: den 15 februari 2001 05:17
> Till: Orion-Interest
> Ämne: Re: Last posting
> 
> 
> If you don't get your answer within 2-3 days, people don't 
> know the answer.
> If that is the case, try to get in contact with Magnus Rydin 
> or someone else
> in the Orion team. I know it is very difficult to get in 
> touch with them,
> and I guess time zone differences are making it worse, but if 
> you do you
> usually get the answer you need instantly. Not always the 
> answer you want...
> But that's something else.
> 
> As a little hint in comparing Orion to any other J2EE 
> application server out
> there, Orion is the one that gets you up and running with 
> least effort. It
> is even easier than Suns reference implementation, but then I 
> have installed
> Orion 10-20 times, so I'm not sure if I'm being objective.
> 
> Long complicated questions on this list seems to get by 
> without answers,
> especially if they are not very precise. And as Bronwen 
> Cassidy said very
> insightfully : ...this is more a  "I HOPE SOMEONE ANSWERS" forum...
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Cliff Rowley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Orion-Interest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 11:37 AM
> Subject: RE: Last posting
> 
> 
> > Tim, thankyou for your mature and decent reply - it is very much
> > appreciated.
> >
> > I must apologise for being rather obtrusive, I am almost 
> ready to crack
> and
> > 'let them take me away', and everyone seems to be taking a 
> fair whack from
> > it just recently.  Some people react like bulldogs, and 
> some people care
> to
> > remember they are dealing with real people with real problems.
> >
> > Sorry if I caused you any displeasure.
> >
> > Cliff
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of 
> Tim Endres
> > > Sent: 15 February 2001 03:22
> > > To: Orion-Interest
> > > Subject: Re: Last posting
> > >
> > >
> > > Cliff,
> > >
> > > I think your posting was sufficiently complex and general 
> that it was
> > > unlikely to generate a reponse. Speaking for myself, but 
> suspecting
> > > that it applies to other "professionals", I am very busy, 
> and do not
> > > have the time to devote to such a response. Sorry.
> > >
> > > However, I believe you would be more likely to get a 
> reply if you try
> > > asking specific questions.
> > >
> > > tim.
> > >
> > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > > > Hash: SHA1
> > > >
> > > > Pardon me if I sound a little rude, but since not a 
> single person has
> > > > even acknowledged my last post, do I assume that (a) 
> noone cares or
> > > > (b) noone knows?  I am very keen to get started, and 
> very keen to
> > > > evaluate the various avenues open to us, and I had expected a
> > > > commercial application to have a reasonably 
> professional following.
> > > > Perhaps I was mistaken and I should look elsewhere?
> > > >
> > > > Cliff Rowley
> > > >
> > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
> > > > Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use 

> > >
> > > iQA/AwUBOosbgApjs58+bOhlEQKwigCgnaxMsVQAHoiFpkfbNk48fqTDWXsAoMNy
> > > HxbYNGGXjPNB/neGWBPbq8yf
> > > =RK40
> > > -END PGP SIGNATURE-
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: Deploy question...

[Johan Fredriksson]

I doubt I'm doing the deploy stuff correctly and professional way, but it
works perfectly...

Answer to B:

unzip downloaded file from orionserver.com ( latest stable). Copy tools.jar
to orion directory. Enter config directory, edit data-sources.xml to use
your database, make sure to copy driver files for that database ( if Sybase,
jconn2.jar ) to orion/lib.

Open global-web-application.xml and change the first xml-tag to :



open server.xml and add



open default-web-site.xml and add



create directorystructure

orion/applications/myApp
orion/applications/myApp/myApp-web
orion/applications/myApp/myApp-web/WEB-INF
orion/applications/myApp/META-INF

in web-inf dir, put web.xml, create classes, and put your classes there
directory style

classes/com/myAppClasses/beans

jsp files goes in myApp-web

beans in MyApp directory.

application.xml goes in myApp/META-INF dir.

run java -jar orion.jar in orion dir

Touch web.xml to reload classes, runtime.

I guess your question (A) was answered above too... =)

Johan



- Original Message -
From: "Tim Yates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Orion-Interest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 10:33 AM
Subject: Deploy question...


> Hi there, firstly, this is a test message to check I am on the list (and
> using it correctly), and secondly, I have a (maybe stupid) question...
>
> We are presently using jBoss as our app server, but after looking at the
> Orion spec, I am quite interested about Orion, due to its clustering
> support.
>
> However, as there is a team of us developing, we keep our JSP and EJB
> deployment separate...
>
> I will explain:
>
>   Our JSP's are located in a directory with a WEB-INF/classes directory
> containing all of our JavaBeans that we use
>
>   The EJB jar containing all of our EJB's are placed into the jBoss deploy
> directory.
>
>   This allows us to have multiple users deploying different areas of the
> project rather than one person building WARs and combining them into EARs.
>
> Now my question is:
>
>   Is it possible to deploy things this way under Orion?  If so, can anyone
> point me to a web reference or in the right direction that will show me
how
> to do it?  I have looked at the online documentation, and the mailing list
> archive, and I am a bit lost as to where I would have to A) Deploy all my
> files, and B) Configure the application...
>
> Sorry if this is a stupid question,
>
> Hope someone can help,
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tim Yates
>
>
>

subscribe

[Randahl Fink Isaksen]

Re: Last posting

[Johan Fredriksson]

If you don't get your answer within 2-3 days, people don't know the answer.
If that is the case, try to get in contact with Magnus Rydin or someone else
in the Orion team. I know it is very difficult to get in touch with them,
and I guess time zone differences are making it worse, but if you do you
usually get the answer you need instantly. Not always the answer you want...
But that's something else.

As a little hint in comparing Orion to any other J2EE application server out
there, Orion is the one that gets you up and running with least effort. It
is even easier than Suns reference implementation, but then I have installed
Orion 10-20 times, so I'm not sure if I'm being objective.

Long complicated questions on this list seems to get by without answers,
especially if they are not very precise. And as Bronwen Cassidy said very
insightfully : ...this is more a  "I HOPE SOMEONE ANSWERS" forum...



- Original Message -
From: "Cliff Rowley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Orion-Interest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 11:37 AM
Subject: RE: Last posting


> Tim, thankyou for your mature and decent reply - it is very much
> appreciated.
>
> I must apologise for being rather obtrusive, I am almost ready to crack
and
> 'let them take me away', and everyone seems to be taking a fair whack from
> it just recently.  Some people react like bulldogs, and some people care
to
> remember they are dealing with real people with real problems.
>
> Sorry if I caused you any displeasure.
>
> Cliff
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tim Endres
> > Sent: 15 February 2001 03:22
> > To: Orion-Interest
> > Subject: Re: Last posting
> >
> >
> > Cliff,
> >
> > I think your posting was sufficiently complex and general that it was
> > unlikely to generate a reponse. Speaking for myself, but suspecting
> > that it applies to other "professionals", I am very busy, and do not
> > have the time to devote to such a response. Sorry.
> >
> > However, I believe you would be more likely to get a reply if you try
> > asking specific questions.
> >
> > tim.
> >
> > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > > Hash: SHA1
> > >
> > > Pardon me if I sound a little rude, but since not a single person has
> > > even acknowledged my last post, do I assume that (a) noone cares or
> > > (b) noone knows?  I am very keen to get started, and very keen to
> > > evaluate the various avenues open to us, and I had expected a
> > > commercial application to have a reasonably professional following.
> > > Perhaps I was mistaken and I should look elsewhere?
> > >
> > > Cliff Rowley
> > >
> > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
> > > Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use 
> > >
> > > iQA/AwUBOosbgApjs58+bOhlEQKwigCgnaxMsVQAHoiFpkfbNk48fqTDWXsAoMNy
> > > HxbYNGGXjPNB/neGWBPbq8yf
> > > =RK40
> > > -END PGP SIGNATURE-
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: MIME-types [off topic]

[Johan Fredriksson]

Don't know if it works, but test setting the content type to application/xml
or something,...?


- Original Message -
From: "Konstantin Polyzois" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Orion-Interest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 10:34 AM
Subject: MIME-types [off topic]


> This is a little off topic...
>
> I am developing an app where there will be some xml-files generated. I
want
> the user to save these to his hard drive. The problem is that Internet
> Exploder always displays xml. Is there some MIME type or some trick to
make
> Exploder pop up a "save as dialog" instead? I have thought about letting
the
> user "right click" an anchor and letting him "choose save target as.." but
I
> think it is a little uggly.
>
> /korre

RE: Last posting

[Arved Sandstrom]

The most important thing to remember here (also the second and third most
important) is that this is a user group. Nobody here is anyone else's
support line, and the second anyone starts assuming that, yes, hackles will
be raised.

Most people on this list seem to be very professional - there is a distinct
lack of the ego posturing that dominates many newsgroups, for example.

I suspect that most of here have commitments and pressures that are
essentially not much different from yours; I don't think there is so much a
lack of compassion for someone that gets themselves in a crack, as there is
a lack of sympathy for what is, after all, an avoidable situation. The
reason I say that is, J2EE itself is immature (my considered opinion) and
anyone who is relying on it had better have good fallback plans. Also, it
sounds to me like you promised a solution and then set about finding out
whether and how you could do it...never a good idea. If I'm making
assumptions, I apologize, but I've been in the industry for 20 years, I've
done it myself, and I've seen it time and time again. Either that or your
estimating needs some work.

Regards,
Arved Sandstrom

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cliff Rowley
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 6:37 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: Last posting


Tim, thankyou for your mature and decent reply - it is very much
appreciated.

I must apologise for being rather obtrusive, I am almost ready to crack and
'let them take me away', and everyone seems to be taking a fair whack from
it just recently.  Some people react like bulldogs, and some people care to
remember they are dealing with real people with real problems.

Sorry if I caused you any displeasure.

Cliff

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tim Endres
> Sent: 15 February 2001 03:22
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: Re: Last posting
>
>
> Cliff,
>
> I think your posting was sufficiently complex and general that it was
> unlikely to generate a reponse. Speaking for myself, but suspecting
> that it applies to other "professionals", I am very busy, and do not
> have the time to devote to such a response. Sorry.
>
> However, I believe you would be more likely to get a reply if you try
> asking specific questions.
>
> tim.
>
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Pardon me if I sound a little rude, but since not a single person has
> > even acknowledged my last post, do I assume that (a) noone cares or
> > (b) noone knows?  I am very keen to get started, and very keen to
> > evaluate the various avenues open to us, and I had expected a
> > commercial application to have a reasonably professional following.
> > Perhaps I was mistaken and I should look elsewhere?
> >
> > Cliff Rowley
> >
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
> > Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use 
> >
> > iQA/AwUBOosbgApjs58+bOhlEQKwigCgnaxMsVQAHoiFpkfbNk48fqTDWXsAoMNy
> > HxbYNGGXjPNB/neGWBPbq8yf
> > =RK40
> > -END PGP SIGNATURE-
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

Re: MIME-types [off topic]

[Roger Mosher]

K.
Granted I am not distributing XML so I set the content type to
"application/zip", but the trick to get the SAVE AS dialog for me was the
Content-Dispostion header. My code (in a servlet) goes something like
this...

response.setContentType("application/zip");
response.setContentLength(len);

response.setHeader("Content-Disposition","attachment;filename=\"somename.ext
\" ");

Works most of the time except certain buggy versions of IE 5.5 for which
a patch is available from Microsoft (so I believe).

Hope this helps?



- Original Message -
From: "Konstantin Polyzois" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Orion-Interest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 5:34 AM
Subject: MIME-types [off topic]


> This is a little off topic...
>
> I am developing an app where there will be some xml-files generated. I
want
> the user to save these to his hard drive. The problem is that Internet
> Exploder always displays xml. Is there some MIME type or some trick to
make
> Exploder pop up a "save as dialog" instead? I have thought about letting
the
> user "right click" an anchor and letting him "choose save target as.." but
I
> think it is a little uggly.
>
> /korre
>

RE: Security between applications?

[Cliff Rowley]

Title: SV: Security between applications?



No, 
your answer is perfect - my aim was to try to be able to specify which 
applications can access particular datasources.  Now I know that it is not 
possible using the defined mechanisms, I can move on to find another 
solution.
 
Thankyou *very* much for your help Magnus, it is very 
much appreciated.  It's nice to know someone actually reads the posts 
:)
 
Cliff

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Magnus 
  RydinSent: 15 February 2001 07:22To: 
  Orion-InterestSubject: SV: Security between 
  applications?
  Im not sure I understand the question correctly. 
  There is no way to define a datasource and say which apps 
  should be able to access it. You can specify WHAT 
  datasource a certain app should use though. Is this 
  what you are after? WR 
  > -Ursprungligt meddelande- > Från: Cliff Rowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Skickat: den 13 februari 2001 11:09 > 
  Till: Orion-Interest > Ämne: Security between 
  applications? > > 
  > Greetings, > 
  > We are currently evaluating the various J2EE 
  solutions available for a > venture that we hope to 
  deliver to the world in a few months.  Whilst > reading the documentation for each, I dont appear to be able 
  > to configure > Orion 
  to suit the way the project will work. > 
  > In order for our application to be of any use, we 
  need to be able to > implement a fair amount of 
  security, since JSP pages may be > at the mercy 
  of > people who are not us. > > Basically the application will 
  provide a farm of hosts on > which we will 
  be > offering certain services.  Each 
  application needs to have a > data source 
  > that it, and only it has access to.  The current 
  problem as I > see it is that > if I define a connection in data-sources.xml, then every web 
  > application > deployed 
  on the server or cluster of servers has access to > 
  it.  We need some > way of securing that while 
  still being able to use EJB in all > its 
  glory.  We > need to be able to offer the 
  opportunity of creating and > editing  
  content > without compromising the security of 
  other applications on the system. > 
  > Could anyone give us some tips and pointers on 
  this? > > Thanks 
  > > Cliff Rowley 
  > > 

ms access & Orion?

[faisal]

does ms access  work with Orion 
?

SV: Security between applications?

[Magnus Rydin]

Title: SV: Security between applications?





Turning back to the original msg..



One obious option would be to set it up so that each application has a unique ID and that this ID is used whenever referecing tables. I.E including this id in all entities. I guess this is not the option you want?

How about specifying different databases for each application? 


I know there was a discussion going on about having an option for prepending the deployment name to any tables generated at deploy time. Not sure if this orion-specific option is currently included or not though.

Im afraid im still a bit unsure about what you really need.
If you are going to use ONE EJB application and numberous web-applications, then I dont really see the problem.


When it comes to licenses, you can of course use Orion to your hearts desire as long as it is non-commercial.


WR



> -Ursprungligt meddelande-
> Från: Cliff Rowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Skickat: den 13 februari 2001 11:09
> Till: Orion-Interest
> Ämne: Security between applications?
> 
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> We are currently evaluating the various J2EE solutions available for a
> venture that we hope to deliver to the world in a few months.  Whilst
> reading the documentation for each, I dont appear to be able 
> to configure
> Orion to suit the way the project will work.
> 
> In order for our application to be of any use, we need to be able to
> implement a fair amount of security, since JSP pages may be 
> at the mercy of
> people who are not us.
> 
> Basically the application will provide a farm of hosts on 
> which we will be
> offering certain services.  Each application needs to have a 
> data source
> that it, and only it has access to.  The current problem as I 
> see it is that
> if I define a connection in data-sources.xml, then every web 
> application
> deployed on the server or cluster of servers has access to 
> it.  We need some
> way of securing that while still being able to use EJB in all 
> its glory.  We
> need to be able to offer the opportunity of creating and 
> editing  content
> without compromising the security of other applications on the system.
> 
> Could anyone give us some tips and pointers on this?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Cliff Rowley
> 
> 

RE: Last posting

[Joseph B. Ottinger]

Cliff, being cynical... it doesn't matter to us. If you think that a user
community is reponsible for your issues, that's great! You're in deep
trouble, and you're just going to get stuck with a less efficient
platform. No skin off of our noses - we'll have competitive advantages.

Pointless postings? We've been talking about something near and dear to
our hearts - how Orion is looking at the FUTURE, not just how it looks at
one developer who's gotten himself into a crack. Maybe the future's more
important to us than someone who landed himself in a lot of pressure. I
feel for you - sort of - in that I'm the sole provider for my family, too,
and I have the burden of making sure that the user support you bitch about
so much is, in fact, available. Do I cry? Do I whine? (Yes, but that's
irrelevant.) Do I let the positions of others affect objective
evaluation? Do I expect a set of volunteers with their own problems to pay
attention to me me me me me ME ME ME [ME] [ME] [ME DAMMIT ME]?

Grow up, dude. 

On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Cliff Rowley wrote:

> Thankyou for making our decision for us.  Orion will not be our
> choice of J2EE platform, as our evaluation has shown that its users
> are rude and obnoxious.  We have decided that it would not be in our
> best interest to be associated with people of this nature.
> 
> Whilst everyone is flustering over rather pointless postings (as is
> my observation over the last couple of days), real potential Orion
> customers are being turned away by its self obsessed (and somewhat
> childish) user group.
> 
> I asked a question, and was ignored.  It was quite obvious from my
> question that I am under a fair amount of pressure, and I had
> (wrongly) presumed that a commercial application server would have a
> reasonably professional following.
> 
> Let me also point out that it was not arrogance, it was a cry for
> help.  I currently close to redundancy, I have a wife who is 6 months
> pregnant, and I have a 2 year old daughter.  Forgive me for appearing
> a little stressed as I try to feed and clothe them, but it was not
> something I had wished to share.
> 
> But I guess you wouldnt care, seeing as you're a typical
> newsgroup/mailing list troll - we've seen you before, in various
> forms, under various names.  Always the one to jump on the weak
> whenever the opportunity arises.  And you have the cheek to call me
> arrogant?
> 
> You're forgotten about already.
> 
> . o O ( Wonders where the 'human' element dissapeared to in all of
> this - bring back the old Internet )
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike
> > Cannon-Brookes
> > Sent: 15 February 2001 01:27
> > To: Orion-Interest
> > Subject: RE: Last posting
> > 
> > 
> > This is one of the most arrogant postings I've ever seen on a
> > public user mailing list.
> > 
> > 
> > Cliff, might I profer my humblest apologies for not acknowledging 
> > your post,
> > I'll make sure next time to send you an email saying that I got it.
> > Right.  
> > 
> > In addition, I agree that not answering YOUR query calls into
> > question the professionalism of everyone on this list.
> > 
> > You are not mistaken at all. You are a fool.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -mike
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cliff
> > > Rowley Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 10:58 AM
> > > To: Orion-Interest
> > > Subject: Last posting
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > > Hash: SHA1
> > >
> > > Pardon me if I sound a little rude, but since not a single person
> > > has even acknowledged my last post, do I assume that (a) noone
> > > cares or (b) noone knows?  I am very keen to get started, and
> > > very keen to evaluate the various avenues open to us, and I had
> > > expected a
> > > commercial application to have a reasonably professional
> > > following. Perhaps I was mistaken and I should look elsewhere?
> > >
> > > Cliff Rowley
> > >
> > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
> > > Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use
> > >  
> > >
> > > iQA/AwUBOosbgApjs58+bOhlEQKwigCgnaxMsVQAHoiFpkfbNk48fqTDWXsAoMNy
> > > HxbYNGGXjPNB/neGWBPbq8yf
> > > =RK40
> > > -END PGP SIGNATURE-
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 

---
Joseph B. Ottinger   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://epesh.com/ IT Consultant

Re: Last posting

[Joseph B. Ottinger]

Hi, Cliff.

I don't remember what it was; honestly, remember that this is a voluntary
forum, and as such, sometimes things get overlooked. There's no monitor
saying "Someone needs to acknowledge poster XYZ." We try to be helpful -
people here do a LOT, if you ask me - but sometimes things happen. A
professional following, sure, but not one that's responsible for
professional support.

What did you need?

On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Cliff Rowley wrote:

> Pardon me if I sound a little rude, but since not a single person has
> even acknowledged my last post, do I assume that (a) noone cares or
> (b) noone knows?  I am very keen to get started, and very keen to
> evaluate the various avenues open to us, and I had expected a
> commercial application to have a reasonably professional following. 
> Perhaps I was mistaken and I should look elsewhere?
> 
> Cliff Rowley
> 

---
Joseph B. Ottinger   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://epesh.com/ IT Consultant

RE: Last posting

[Cliff Rowley]

Tim, thankyou for your mature and decent reply - it is very much
appreciated.

I must apologise for being rather obtrusive, I am almost ready to crack and
'let them take me away', and everyone seems to be taking a fair whack from
it just recently.  Some people react like bulldogs, and some people care to
remember they are dealing with real people with real problems.

Sorry if I caused you any displeasure.

Cliff

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tim Endres
> Sent: 15 February 2001 03:22
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: Re: Last posting
>
>
> Cliff,
>
> I think your posting was sufficiently complex and general that it was
> unlikely to generate a reponse. Speaking for myself, but suspecting
> that it applies to other "professionals", I am very busy, and do not
> have the time to devote to such a response. Sorry.
>
> However, I believe you would be more likely to get a reply if you try
> asking specific questions.
>
> tim.
>
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Pardon me if I sound a little rude, but since not a single person has
> > even acknowledged my last post, do I assume that (a) noone cares or
> > (b) noone knows?  I am very keen to get started, and very keen to
> > evaluate the various avenues open to us, and I had expected a
> > commercial application to have a reasonably professional following.
> > Perhaps I was mistaken and I should look elsewhere?
> >
> > Cliff Rowley
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RE: Last posting

[Cliff Rowley]

 
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Thankyou for making our decision for us.  Orion will not be our
choice of J2EE platform, as our evaluation has shown that its users
are rude and obnoxious.  We have decided that it would not be in our
best interest to be associated with people of this nature.

Whilst everyone is flustering over rather pointless postings (as is
my observation over the last couple of days), real potential Orion
customers are being turned away by its self obsessed (and somewhat
childish) user group.

I asked a question, and was ignored.  It was quite obvious from my
question that I am under a fair amount of pressure, and I had
(wrongly) presumed that a commercial application server would have a
reasonably professional following.

Let me also point out that it was not arrogance, it was a cry for
help.  I currently close to redundancy, I have a wife who is 6 months
pregnant, and I have a 2 year old daughter.  Forgive me for appearing
a little stressed as I try to feed and clothe them, but it was not
something I had wished to share.

But I guess you wouldnt care, seeing as you're a typical
newsgroup/mailing list troll - we've seen you before, in various
forms, under various names.  Always the one to jump on the weak
whenever the opportunity arises.  And you have the cheek to call me
arrogant?

You're forgotten about already.

. o O ( Wonders where the 'human' element dissapeared to in all of
this - bring back the old Internet )

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike
> Cannon-Brookes
> Sent: 15 February 2001 01:27
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: RE: Last posting
> 
> 
> This is one of the most arrogant postings I've ever seen on a
> public user mailing list.
> 
> 
> Cliff, might I profer my humblest apologies for not acknowledging 
> your post,
> I'll make sure next time to send you an email saying that I got it.
> Right.  
> 
> In addition, I agree that not answering YOUR query calls into
> question the professionalism of everyone on this list.
> 
> You are not mistaken at all. You are a fool.
> 
> 
> 
> -mike
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cliff
> > Rowley Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 10:58 AM
> > To: Orion-Interest
> > Subject: Last posting
> >
> >
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> > has even acknowledged my last post, do I assume that (a) noone
> > cares or (b) noone knows?  I am very keen to get started, and
> > very keen to evaluate the various avenues open to us, and I had
> > expected a
> > commercial application to have a reasonably professional
> > following. Perhaps I was mistaken and I should look elsewhere?
> >
> > Cliff Rowley
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RE: does the loadbalancer of Orion listens only for HTTP.....

[Victor A. Salaman]

No, but you can use HTTP tunneling for that purpose

http://www.orionserver.com/docs/rmi-http-tunneling.txt

-Original Message-
From: Mohit Palhan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 1:46 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: does the loadbalancer of Orion listens only for HTTP.
Importance: High


Hi!,
I want to know that does the loadbalancer of Orion listens only for HTTP
connection or can I configure it to listen for an RMI call aswell.
The application we are designing is slightly different and the request
is routed in a slightly different way ie. before the request reaches the
loadbalancer there is synthesis(enlarged request) and the format of the
request is no more http!! it's like if I have a HelloWorld example I
want that the client call (RMI based) is routed by the loadbalancer.
Please enlighten me on this
Thank you so much.
mohit
Have a nice day :-)

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Re: 1 app connecting to multiple identical db's

[MRist]

Hi,

I search for a exactly same solution.
We discussed one suggestion: what about storing DataSource-Information in the
security credentials of the caller. It should be possible to access this
Information from the entity-layer.
I am very interested on that topic

Michael


   
  
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dear all,

i have a question about running multiple identical database in an ASP
(application service provider) environment.

we currently use stateless session beans only and handle database connection
pooling ourselves.

this allows us to have a single ejb server connection to 1 of several identical
databases.

new clients have a new database created for them, and their config information
entered into our own config file.

based on their login, we run the ejb method using a connection from a connection
pool pointing at their db.

how would we do the equivalent to this if we were to rewrite some parts of the
system as entity beans?

the problem is that i can't see how their login information would get propagated
down to entity bean level so that i could get a reference to the correct
datasource. it's easy enough when you're just using SLSB's.

e.g. pseudo code for what we do currently.

public someMethod( Identity id ) {

get connection from pool based on id.databaseId
pass the connection down as a parameter to each method that requires db
access
return connection to pool
}



how would this work with entity beans?


e.g. dodgy code, but just to show you roughly what i mean.

private Connection getConnection() throws SQLException, RemoteException {

DataSource ds = null;

// <<>>
// e.g. int databaseId = entityContext.getDBId()

try {
Context ic = new InitialContext();
ds = (DataSource)ic.lookup( "jdbc/MyAppDS" + databaseId );
} catch(NamingException e) {
e.printStackTrace();
throw new RemoteException("Could not obtain DataSource: " + e);
}
return ds.getConnection();
}

thanks,
greg.

SV: Deploy question...

[Magnus Rydin]

Title: SV: Deploy question...





Yes, you can deploy your applications without packaging them.
The file structure would be just as if it were an packaged application.
Normaly, you would put the folder structure under .../orion/applications/


Check the docs for more info.
This list also contains numerous answers to this question.


WR


> -Ursprungligt meddelande-
> Från: Tim Yates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Skickat: den 15 februari 2001 01:33
> Till: Orion-Interest
> Ämne: Deploy question...
> 
> 
> Hi there, firstly, this is a test message to check I am on 
> the list (and
> using it correctly), and secondly, I have a (maybe stupid) question...
> 
> We are presently using jBoss as our app server, but after 
> looking at the
> Orion spec, I am quite interested about Orion, due to its clustering
> support.
> 
> However, as there is a team of us developing, we keep our JSP and EJB
> deployment separate...
> 
> I will explain:
> 
>   Our JSP's are located in a directory with a WEB-INF/classes 
> directory
> containing all of our JavaBeans that we use
> 
>   The EJB jar containing all of our EJB's are placed into the 
> jBoss deploy
> directory.
> 
>   This allows us to have multiple users deploying different 
> areas of the
> project rather than one person building WARs and combining 
> them into EARs.
> 
> Now my question is:
> 
>   Is it possible to deploy things this way under Orion?  If 
> so, can anyone
> point me to a web reference or in the right direction that 
> will show me how
> to do it?  I have looked at the online documentation, and the 
> mailing list
> archive, and I am a bit lost as to where I would have to A) 
> Deploy all my
> files, and B) Configure the application...
> 
> Sorry if this is a stupid question,
> 
> Hope someone can help,
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Tim Yates
> 
> 
> 
> 

MIME-types [off topic]

[Konstantin Polyzois]

 This is a little off topic...

I am developing an app where there will be some xml-files generated. I want
the user to save these to his hard drive. The problem is that Internet
Exploder always displays xml. Is there some MIME type or some trick to make
Exploder pop up a "save as dialog" instead? I have thought about letting the
user "right click" an anchor and letting him "choose save target as.." but I
think it is a little uggly.

/korre

Deploy question...

[Tim Yates]

Hi there, firstly, this is a test message to check I am on the list (and
using it correctly), and secondly, I have a (maybe stupid) question...

We are presently using jBoss as our app server, but after looking at the
Orion spec, I am quite interested about Orion, due to its clustering
support.

However, as there is a team of us developing, we keep our JSP and EJB
deployment separate...

I will explain:

  Our JSP's are located in a directory with a WEB-INF/classes directory
containing all of our JavaBeans that we use

  The EJB jar containing all of our EJB's are placed into the jBoss deploy
directory.

  This allows us to have multiple users deploying different areas of the
project rather than one person building WARs and combining them into EARs.

Now my question is:

  Is it possible to deploy things this way under Orion?  If so, can anyone
point me to a web reference or in the right direction that will show me how
to do it?  I have looked at the online documentation, and the mailing list
archive, and I am a bit lost as to where I would have to A) Deploy all my
files, and B) Configure the application...

Sorry if this is a stupid question,

Hope someone can help,

Cheers,

Tim Yates

Re: Problems with a finder method in a cmp

[Mohit Palhan]

Hi! there
SELECT * FROM peopleWHERE name LIKE '%name%' I think!!

fresnaULL wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm trying to define this finder method in a cmp:
>
> SELECT * FROM people
> WHERE people.name LIKE '%name%'
>
> which is correct in SQL SERVER 7.0
>
> I put the following in the people home interface:
>
> String findByName_query = "people.name like '%$1%'";

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