Re: Orion on Solaris 8
The way to run a process in the background even after the login process is terminated is very simple just start orion in this way 'nohup java -jar orion.jar' This should work. Marcus Johan Fredriksson wrote: inline - Original Message - From: Joerg Weishaupt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:54 AM Subject: Orion on Solaris 8 Hi, I'm having two problems with Orion (1.4.5) on Solaris 8 with JDK 1.3.1 a) I'm unable to set the process into the background. As soon as I log off from the SSH session the Orion process gets killed. Startup is done by calling: nohup java -server -jar -Xconcurrentio -Xms128m -Xmx384m orion.jar -out $ORION_SERVER/log/server-out.log -err $ORION_SERVER/log/server-err.log Check orionsupport.com, or use bash. b) All German specific vocales (Umlaute) are shown as a ? only. The shell you are running orion under has to have german language enabled. If you can type a double s at the prompt, then it should be set up correctly. Maybe someone has some ideas ? TIA Joerg Weishaupt Johan
RE: Oracle deal gag... but on a different note.
On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Jay Armstrong wrote: Joseph, Generally, I agree, but... I am not applauding the support for WebLogic, WebsFear, IPlanit, etc, but if I report a problem with WebLogic to BEA, eventually it will filter to the gurus, who will respond (usually they ask for a reconfigure, restart, and a dump). And usually if people know your problem, they'll get to it here, too. Agree. But most major customers avoid semi-open products because of the perception (right or wrong) that they can't purchase support, even if they have money to burn. Sure. Is Orion semi-open now? Because I've never seen anything of the sort, and I think I would have by now... I have argued that the orion-interest response is generally more accurate (than BEA, IBM Sun) because the big players must hide their embarassing flaws from the competition. This is why I believe Oracle MAY (not for sure! No flames please!) put pressure on Ironflare to be less forthcoming about internal flaws. Sure, I can understand this -- good thing we have orionsupport.com, which isn't affiliated with Ironflare. This is why I've never been willing to advertise anything on orionsupport, and why I'm not directly affiliated in any way with Ironflare - because I want the freedom to some day post something like Orion totally sucks in area XYZ (not mentioning anything like JMS, for example, am I?) without worrying about receiving a warning from the Swedish Mafia. Who will handle this for Orion/Oracle? Karl and Magnus? They rarely respond now, so don't you think they could get even more overwhelmed? Please, point me to where Ellison talked about support. Heh, you haven't LOOKED at Oracle much, have you? They *already* have support networks in place... The buck stops here sign is on Karl's and Magnus' desk, right? I hope they don't usually ride in the same car together all time. :) Well, I didn't know they HAD desks - I can see Satan doing all his work on a futon for some reason - but at this point, we don't know how much responsibility Oracle has taken. *shrug* We'll see. Stuck in the asylum, Jay At 03:42 PM 6/11/01 -0500, you wrote: On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Jay Armstrong wrote: Nathan, A lot of what you're saying is true. I acknowledge that Orion is relatively fast and has some great features (like auto-reconfigure), but I recall that Orion used to claim that it was the fastest J2EE product (or something like that), then had to remove that claim from the orionserver.com site (I think BEA challenged the claim). No, BEA didn't challenge the claim. BEA refuses anyone (IBM, etc.) to publish performance specs for comparison purposes. The result was that Orion couldn't say We did this in X, and BEA did it in Y. Orion is hardly unique in this. Also, one of the first questions I get asked when recommending software for clients is about support. It's probably the primary reason why major systems do not rely on open products, or semi-open products like Orion. Or Oracle... but wait, that might make the Oracle deal a win for Orion users. Yes, Karl and Magnus built a fabulous product, but where's the support (documentation, help desk, etc)? I've done well without it. I am not applauding the support for WebLogic, WebsFear, IPlanit, etc, but if I report a problem with WebLogic to BEA, eventually it will filter to the gurus, who will respond (usually they ask for a reconfigure, restart, and a dump). And usually if people know your problem, they'll get to it here, too. Who will handle this for Orion/Oracle? Karl and Magnus? They rarely respond now, so don't you think they could get even more overwhelmed? Please, point me to where Ellison talked about support. Heh, you haven't LOOKED at Oracle much, have you? They *already* have support networks in place... Jay At 09:32 AM 6/11/01 -0500, you wrote: On a different note concerning the Oracle deal: I wasn't at JavaOne, but I've been reading all about it on the web. One news story that I've seen a lot about is Larry Ellison and Bill Coleman's little fight. Oracle has put Orion in the big leagues... I mean, Karl could have produced all sorts of documentation that said Orion is better then Weblogic, but BEA would have paid it no attention. However, when Oracle says Oracle is better then Weblogic, BEA certainly takes notice! I consider this a great victory for Ironflare, the J2EE community, and every single young person hacking away in his garage. This proves it--a few talented and committed developers can accomplish anything they set their minds too. I think Larry Ellison said it best, when, at JavaOne, he said We have thrown out literally all of our old Java code. The reason we threw away all of our old J2EE implementations is we had to build a high performance, scaleable version of J2EE. We think that this is a huge breakthrough for
Re: Security bug with application clients?
WRONG!!!
As I see it... There is nothing in
the post, that says SESSION or HTTP or JSP or SERVLET.
I have stumbled upon this problem
many times. I've raised that question on this list many times.
However... Except for threads like
"Orion deal blah, blah" I hardly see any meaningful mail on this list. Have to
use it however.
The problem comes from other
place.
SITCH:
Step 1: Set up an InitialContext
(url, factory, principal, credentials)
Step 1.1: Do your job (create,
use, remove etc.)
watch here
Step 2: TRY to get another
Context with something different as parameters (let's say different user, url,
password, any of these, except for the factory).
RESULT
You get an InitialContext, that
points exactly to the same target as the first one. The same target server, the
same target application, the same user, the same password. This is NOT how it
should be.
The only way to get a difefrent
context is to receive an Exception while communicating. Then you can get
different Context.
WHY???
Someone on the list proposed to use
"dedicated.connection=true" in the InitialContext hashtable parameters. Haven't
seen it to work...
Hoping, to put the guns away, and do
some job, isn't that why we are here?
Lachezar.
its
in the "clean things up" step that something went wrong.
You
need to do a session.invalidate(), and then create a new guest session with a
session.create("true"). Here is the bit in the RequestProcessor of the
BluePrint (petstore):
if (event
instanceof LogoutEvent)
{
...whatever
...
session.invalidate();
whatever
HttpSession validSession = req.getSession(true);
...whatever ...
}
This
is usually done in a servlet. I would do the same thing here. Instead of using
the client - slsb - whatever ... use client - servlet - slsb
- whatever bean. This way, you can abstract whatever login/logout and
session control directly with the servlet, and you also abstract instancing
the slsb - whatever bean. The servlet can also be loadbalanced (the slsb
can't be) so if you want failover capability, you get it.
regards,
the
elephantwalker
-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael
JaraSent: Monday, June 11, 2001 6:51 PMTo:
Orion-InterestSubject: Security bug with application
clients?
Hi,
I'm trying to get the security portion of a
project working, in which a java client connects to a stateless session
beanafter login. As far as I can tell, Orion doesn't seem to
properly pass around principal objects in stateless session
beans.
This is the sequence that my test client
runs:
1. Prompt user for user ID
password
2. Create an InitialContext containing the user
ID and password (as "java.naming.security.principal" and
"java.naming.security.credentials", respectively.)
3. Look up the stateless session bean's
home
4. home.create() the stateless session
bean
So far, so good. The stateless session
bean correctly identifies the user ID within its session context's
principal. Now I clean things up and repeat the process:
5. remove() the stateless session
bean
6. close() the InitialContext (just in case...
I even went so far as to remove all of its environment
properties.)
7. Log on again: prompt for a different user ID
password
8. Create a newinitial context as in step
2.
9. Look up the stateless session bean's
home
10. home.create() the stateless session
bean
This is where things go wrong. I get the
principal out of the stateless session bean's session context, which
indicates that I'm logged in as the first user! The problem is that
the bean is never calling "setSessionContext" on the second creation.
If I re-start the client however, it works correctly.
The only way I can think of to get around this
is to use a stateful session bean instead... I don't like that,
because I don't need to maintain state! Has anyone else encountered
this problem? Found a solution?
Thanks,
Mike
starting using orion
Title: starting using orion Hi all, I've just started using Orion.. Please tell me how can I make my own application in Orion: where can I put my web directory, and how about the configuration file? Thanks so much. Binh Duong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
clustering two orions on the same machine
Hi, Newbie to orion im afraid. ive tried following the guide to clustering, which says it can be tested between two orions serer on the same machine as long as thier ports differ. I start the load balancing, but when i start both orions up i get the following message on both: Unable to initialize clustering : Error initializing clustering(at localhost/127.0.0.1:9128) : Unable to connect : Unknown Error (java.lang.InstantiationException) I havent specified a different host or port in the cluster-config tags in my web-apps - should i? Is there something i missed, cos i thought i'd followed the guide to a tee. Cheers Darren
Fwd: Re: Error running java -jar orion.jar -install
Thank you Vadym, that worked! spasiva Javier --- vadym krevs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Javier. I have had a similar problem. Here is how I fixed it. The IBM jdk 1.3.0 includes an old version of xerces in the JDK_ROOT/jre/lib/ext/ folder. That old version is loaded before orion's copy of xerces, and hence all problems. I solved the problem by making a backup of the IBM JDK's version, downloading the latest revision of xerces.jar from http://xml.apache.org/xerces-j/index.html and replacing the JDK_ROOT/jre/lib/ext/xerces.jar with the downloaded version. Vadym __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Censorship or slow server ?
I posted a message to this list 25 hours ago, exposing some bad experiences with Orion. How come this has not shown up yet, 25 hours later ... ??? Or has the moderator of this list removed my message, as it was a bit negative ?? - Regards, Tony Fonager http://www.netcoders.dk
SV: Censorship or slow server ?
Title: SV: Censorship or slow server ? I've had some posting problems the last 7 days. Try again, the software will soon be updated. WR -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: Tony Fonager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Skickat: den 12 juni 2001 04:56 Till: Orion-Interest Ämne: Censorship or slow server ? Prioritet: Hög I posted a message to this list 25 hours ago, exposing some bad experiences with Orion. How come this has not shown up yet, 25 hours later ... ??? Or has the moderator of this list removed my message, as it was a bit negative ?? - Regards, Tony Fonager http://www.netcoders.dk
RE: starting using orion
Title: starting using orion You can put your web application directories wherever you want, so long as your configuration files point to the appropriate location. The configuration files are all located in the /config subdirectory of your Orion install path. You should probably review the documentation regarding these files, so you are familiar with all the possibilities of configuration and deployment of J2EE applications on Orion. Hope that helps get you started... drumshamen -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ta Nguyen Binh DuongSent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 3:57 AMTo: Orion-InterestSubject: starting using orion Hi all, I've just started using Orion.. Please tell me how can I make my own application in Orion: where can I put my web directory, and how about the configuration file? Thanks so much. Binh Duong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Oracle deal gag... but on a different note.
At 02:18 AM 6/12/01 -0500, you wrote: On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Jay Armstrong wrote: Joseph, Generally, I agree, but... I am not applauding the support for WebLogic, WebsFear, IPlanit, etc, but if I report a problem with WebLogic to BEA, eventually it will filter to the gurus, who will respond (usually they ask for a reconfigure, restart, and a dump). And usually if people know your problem, they'll get to it here, too. Agree. But most major customers avoid semi-open products because of the perception (right or wrong) that they can't purchase support, even if they have money to burn. Sure. Is Orion semi-open now? Because I've never seen anything of the sort, and I think I would have by now... My definition of semi-open: Free for development with no time expiration; not a time-limited trial. Pay for production. That is, products like Orion. I have argued that the orion-interest response is generally more accurate (than BEA, IBM Sun) because the big players must hide their embarassing flaws from the competition. This is why I believe Oracle MAY (not for sure! No flames please!) put pressure on Ironflare to be less forthcoming about internal flaws. Sure, I can understand this -- good thing we have orionsupport.com, which isn't affiliated with Ironflare. This is why I've never been willing to advertise anything on orionsupport, and why I'm not directly affiliated in any way with Ironflare - because I want the freedom to some day post something like Orion totally sucks in area XYZ (not mentioning anything like JMS, for example, am I?) without worrying about receiving a warning from the Swedish Mafia. You see, Joseph, it's this kind of humor that makes people think of waking up next to their favorite racehorse's head. Who will handle this for Orion/Oracle? Karl and Magnus? They rarely respond now, so don't you think they could get even more overwhelmed? Please, point me to where Ellison talked about support. Heh, you haven't LOOKED at Oracle much, have you? They *already* have support networks in place... The buck stops here sign is on Karl's and Magnus' desk, right? I hope they don't usually ride in the same car together all time. :) Well, I didn't know they HAD desks - I can see Satan doing all his work on a futon for some reason - but at this point, we don't know how much responsibility Oracle has taken. *shrug* We'll see. They may not have desks yet, but they can probably afford to order big, hand-carved, mahogony ones now. From your previous comment about looking at Oracle, let me cite an example about supporting integrated products. A couple of years ago, I found an error in Adrian Cockroft's book, Sun Performance and Tuning regarding the formulas for shared memory and semaphore settings in etc/system. Of course, Adrian (creator of the VirtualAdrian tools) is a god and I'm just a troll (as someone recently pointed out), but even trolls get lucky now and then. SunOS versions have a sort of mixed Unix ancestry of BSD and SystemV -- it's hard to tell for sure where one begins and the other ends. Unfortunately, Oracle handles resource contention for multiple users in a multiprocessor system differently, depending on whether it's running on BSD or SystemV. I'm not looking to start a SunOS/Oracle discussion here. If you disagree, just assume I'm crazy, and let's take that war off line. You can also set some things in Oracle's init.ora file that, presumably, influence performance (such as the number of spin locks, etc). Which takes precedence (etc/system or init.ora) isn't clear. Oracle provides some recommended settings for given Solaris configurations, but I didn't find an explanation of how to juggle the values. (Again, just assume I'm nuts and that this is true for the sake of argument). Because of the many real world problems with Oracle on Solaris, they created a special joint team to resolve issues. I never found any of them who could accurately explain this problem. Before Sun and Oracle fans join the Armstrong Barbecue Party, no, I didn't spend years looking. My point is that the dance between Orion and Oracle could be just as complex. For example, WebLogic does a nice job (so I'm told) of handling transactional integrity issues for redundant, clustered EJBs when the database connection pool goes down after a database update is made and before a client response goes out from the EJB container. I have not explored this kind of issue with the Orion/Oracle combination. (There are already threads on this, such as clustering two orions on the same machine). Karl/Magnus have not, apparently, hired the people on the Ironflare side to free them up to address such questions. Just because Oracle has a support infrastucture, call center, help desk, etc, does not mean that Oracle has anyone who can deal with the really tough problems. Before getting flamed again, I am NOT picking on Orion/Oracle here. I believe orion-interest and
Error in deploying EJBs on OC4J
Hello, While I am deploying EJB in OC4J, following error has occured. Entrmine is my application.mysessionbean.jar is my sessionbean. Web war files are working fine. Any suggestion in this regard will be appreciated. Error in application Entrmine: Error loading package at file:/E:/OC4J/j2ee/home/applications/Entrmin e/mysessionbean.jar, Unable to find/read assembly info for E:\OC4J\j2ee\home\applications\Entrmine/m ysessionbean.jar (META-INF/ejb-jar.xml) Regards kumar
Web-security-constraints URGENT help needed!
Preface: I have a password protected site. Servlets, JSPs and pages. Requirement: I want to disable security checking for CERTAIN items. Question: Simple: Can I and How Do I? Looking forward to hearing from you. Lachezar.
Re: starting using orion
The *application-creation-howto.html* included in the orion documentation (http://www.orionserver.com/mirrordownload.jsp?file=orion1.5.2-doc.zip) describes the process. The zip also contains descriptions of all configuration files. Regards, Vadym Ta Nguyen Binh Duong wrote: Hi all, I've just started using Orion.. Please tell me how can I make my own application in Orion: where can I put my web directory, and how about the configuration file? Thanks so much. Binh Duong [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Problem Deploying EJBs on 1.5.2
Hi All, I am having a problem deploying my EJBs on 1.5.2 -- I just upgraded yesterday. Everything ran stellar on 1.4.5. However, in order to get my EJBs to work on 1.4.5, I had to deploy them then stop the server and copy over the orion-ejb-jar.xml file into my source and re-deploy. When I restarted, the container would detect these descriptors and use what ever information I customized in them -- primarily table names and findBy methods. With 1.5.2 it does not seem to detect these descriptiors any more. As a result, several of my findBy methods do not work and others point to database tables that do not exists. In fact, Orion is creating the wrong tables on deployment. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks, AJ Wellman
Re: Security bug with application clients?
I think maybe I didn't make something clear. I am using a java "application" client, NOT a web client. As such, I cannot invalidate sessions, make posts, etc. Orion seems to be written primarily as a web app server, and I have seen very littleinformation on using it as a direct application server (inOrion literature or intheOracle OC4Jdocs.) Since very few people are using Orion in this way, I guess I should expect to see a few bugs here and there. (I'm guessing that this is an application-client specific issue.) Anyway, I could be wrong in beleiving that the problem is in stateless session beans... As Lachezar pointed out, it might be in the InitialContext. By the way, I saw this behavior in Orion 1.4.5 and in the latest release, 1.5.2. Any suggestions are appreciated, Mike - Original Message - From: Jara, Michael To: Orion-Interest Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 7:50 PM Subject: Security bug with application clients? Hi, I'm trying to get the security portion of a project working, in which a java client connects to a stateless session beanafter login. As far as I can tell, Orion doesn't seem to properly pass around principal objects in stateless session beans. This is the sequence that my test client runs: 1. Prompt user for user ID password 2. Create an InitialContext containing the user ID and password (as "java.naming.security.principal" and "java.naming.security.credentials", respectively.) 3. Look up the stateless session bean's home 4. home.create() the stateless session bean So far, so good. The stateless session bean correctly identifies the user ID within its session context's principal. Now I clean things up and repeat the process: 5. remove() the stateless session bean 6. close() the InitialContext (just in case... I even went so far as to remove all of its environment properties.) 7. Log on again: prompt for a different user ID password 8. Create a newinitial context as in step 2. 9. Look up the stateless session bean's home 10. home.create() the stateless session bean This is where things go wrong. I get the principal out of the stateless session bean's session context, which indicates that I'm logged in as the first user! The problem is that the bean is never calling "setSessionContext" on the second creation. If I re-start the client however, it works correctly. The only way I can think of to get around this is to use a stateful session bean instead... I don't like that, because I don't need to maintain state! Has anyone else encountered this problem? Found a solution? Thanks, Mike
FLAME BAIT
I truly apologize in advance, but I just couldn't resist passing along this article. On page 90 of the June 4 issue of ComputerWorld, there's an article, Encrypt Everything! You can see it online at http://www.computerworld.com/cwi/story/0,1199,NAV47_STO61040,00.html. It begins, Last week, word got out about a draft report from a committee of the European Parliament regarding Echelon, the National Security Agency's (NSA) system for eavesdropping on telephone calls, faxes and e-mail messages. In the leaked report, the committee urges businesses and even ordinary citizens to encrypt all e-mail to protect it from unauthorized snooping. So why don't we? Why aren't we routinely using encryption on everything we send out on the Internet already? Short answer: Because we don't believe we need it. Crazy? Hah! Well, okay, I am. But, apparently, I have a lot of company. Jay
Re: Error in deploying EJBs on OC4J
Venkata - It is looking for your META-INF\ejb-jar.xml file in your directory structure. Finding it and putting it in the right place in your application distribution will fix your problem. If you are new to OCJ4 (hence Orion) you will want to take a look at www.orionsupport.com (with further links for other helpful information - Orion Primers, etc). Cheers Ray --- Venkata_Nallam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, While I am deploying EJB in OC4J, following error has occured. Entrmine is my application.mysessionbean.jar is my sessionbean. Web war files are working fine. Any suggestion in this regard will be appreciated. Error in application Entrmine: Error loading package at file:/E:/OC4J/j2ee/home/applications/Entrmin e/mysessionbean.jar, Unable to find/read assembly info for E:\OC4J\j2ee\home\applications\Entrmine/m ysessionbean.jar (META-INF/ejb-jar.xml) Regards kumar __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: Security bug with application clients?
I think maybe I didn't make something clear. I am using a java application client, NOT a web client. As such, I cannot invalidate sessions, make posts, etc. I will repeat that we have seen that Orion's InitialContext and Principal identity features do not work. They do not work in servlets, they do not work in client apps. They do not work for JMS. They do not work, Sam I am. We have given up on using any container authentication short of guest. This is only for dynamic identities. It appears that static identity via the 'jndi.properties' file works ok. Orion seems to be written primarily as a web app server, and I have seen very little information on using it as a direct application server (in Orion literature or in the Oracle OC4J docs.) Since very few people are using Orion in this way, I guess I should expect to see a few bugs here and there. (I'm guessing that this is an application-client specific issue.) We use Orion with standalone Java client applications. They work fine. Except for authentication, which does not work.
Re: RE: Oracle deal gag... but on a different note.
Their j2ee implementations seemed like a bunch of open source glued together. Throw in the oddDuck idea of running ejb's inside the db server and it's no wonder they threw it away. Perhaps because they couldn't give it away. _ Get your free E-mail at http://www.ireland.com
Another interesting observation
I was looking through the Oracle documentation on Orion, and I noticed another interesting observation. Apache is hooked up as a front end, passing requests to OC4J (Orion) J2EE applications. Apache is still part of the Oracle equation.
RE: Oracle deal gag... but on a different note.
On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Jay Armstrong wrote: Sure, I can understand this -- good thing we have orionsupport.com, which isn't affiliated with Ironflare. This is why I've never been willing to advertise anything on orionsupport, and why I'm not directly affiliated in any way with Ironflare - because I want the freedom to some day post something like Orion totally sucks in area XYZ (not mentioning anything like JMS, for example, am I?) without worrying about receiving a warning from the Swedish Mafia. You see, Joseph, it's this kind of humor that makes people think of waking up next to their favorite racehorse's head. Not sure what your point is, here, pardner. After all, I was saying this is why Orionsupport isn't directly affiliated, so that we wouldn't have to worry about that in any case... and then you say something that leads me to believe you took the exact wrong meaning. You've been doing that a lot; this kind of dedication takes a peculiar sort of effort. The buck stops here sign is on Karl's and Magnus' desk, right? I hope they don't usually ride in the same car together all time. :) Well, I didn't know they HAD desks - I can see Satan doing all his work on a futon for some reason - but at this point, we don't know how much responsibility Oracle has taken. *shrug* We'll see. They may not have desks yet, but they can probably afford to order big, hand-carved, mahogony ones now. I hope so! They deserve them. At any rate, I have a little more information about the deal now than I did; your dire warnings are, IMHO, unfounded. Sure, there are some nasty implications for those poor souls still waiting for Godot^WIronflare to provide Oracle-level support for Orion, but even those are merely implications and not a fomral reality yet. From your previous comment about looking at Oracle, let me cite an example about supporting integrated products. A couple of years ago, I found an error in Adrian Cockroft's book, Sun Performance and Tuning regarding the formulas for shared memory and semaphore settings in etc/system. Of course, Adrian (creator of the VirtualAdrian tools) is a god and I'm just a troll (as someone recently pointed out), but even trolls get lucky now and then. Are you a BLIND troll, that's the real question. [snip, snippety snip snip snip!] My point is that the dance between Orion and Oracle could be just as complex. Sure, could be. But isn't. :) I'm not trying to hold some special knowldge over your head, and it's quite possible that what I know is public knowledge, but until I confirm that, I ain't saying. Karl/Magnus have not, apparently, hired the people on the Ironflare side to free them up to address such questions. Just because Oracle has a support infrastucture, call center, help desk, etc, does not mean that Oracle has anyone who can deal with the really tough problems. Doubt THAT - the whole reason they licensed Orion is because they found that they were getting the real tough problems and their lousy infrastructure wasn't set up for it. Not a matter of THEIR SKILL, mind you, but of the original thought that went into their misbegotten app server crap. Before getting flamed again, I am NOT picking on Orion/Oracle here. I believe orion-interest and orionsupport are more responsive and accurate, generally, than the big companies. I would still have great confidence in just about any Orion/Oracle combination. We shall, as you say, *shrug* see. You sure? Why do you? I would like to see Oracle at least attempt to hire some of the people around the world who contributed their valuable time to debugging Orion free of charge. NOT ME. I'm not looking for a job with Orionacle. Me either... but I'm not sure if this is your actual gripe. If it is, hey, um, wow... you're over-reacting by a lot, IMHO. --- Joseph B. Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://adjacency.org/ IT Consultant
Re: Error in deploying EJBs on OC4J
The best way to get answers on OC4J is to use the Oracle technet (http://otn.oracle.com/index.html). It's free but you do need to register. The Discussion forums are monitored by Oracle and they answer the questions as soon as they have an answer From: Venkata_Nallam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Error in deploying EJBs on OC4J Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:51:57 +0530 Hello, While I am deploying EJB in OC4J, following error has occured. Entrmine is my application.mysessionbean.jar is my sessionbean. Web war files are working fine. Any suggestion in this regard will be appreciated. Error in application Entrmine: Error loading package at file:/E:/OC4J/j2ee/home/applications/Entrmin e/mysessionbean.jar, Unable to find/read assembly info for E:\OC4J\j2ee\home\applications\Entrmine/m ysessionbean.jar (META-INF/ejb-jar.xml) Regards kumar _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: Error in deploying EJBs on OC4J
Hello, i suspect a typo make sure ejb-jar.xml is present under META-INF of the ejb root in the .ear for OC4J related questions, please use Oracle's TechNet dedicated forum located here http://technet.oracle.com:89/cgi-bin/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topicsforum=Oracle9iAS%20J2EEnumber=99 Kuassi Mensah Venkata_Nallam wrote: Hello, While I am deploying EJB in OC4J, following error has occured. Entrmine is my application.mysessionbean.jar is my sessionbean. Web war files are working fine. Any suggestion in this regard will be appreciated. Error in application Entrmine: Error loading package at file:/E:/OC4J/j2ee/home/applications/Entrmin e/mysessionbean.jar, Unable to find/read assembly info for E:\OC4J\j2ee\home\applications\Entrmine/m ysessionbean.jar (META-INF/ejb-jar.xml) Regards kumar begin:vcard n:;Kuassi x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;; version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] fn:Kuassi Mensah end:vcard
A connection with the server could not be established error ...
I have a problem with an otherwise successfull Orion test implementation. It works well, no errors are generated or trapped during our stress test, but sometimes when calling a webpage on the Orionserver, I get this error in Internet Explorer browser : A connection with the server could not be established I refuses to give me a connection to the server ?!?!?!? Sometimes I just get the wellknown page in Internet Explorer, where it said the server cannot be located or DNS error ... If I refresh, the normal result comes up ... if I continue to press refresh, the same situation can occur again. It must be told, that the machine running this test i VERY stressed, taking up 95% of the processortime during the test. But I cannot accept, that my calls to the Orion server gets cut off - then I would prefer a slow response time, rather then not even getting a connection ... Any ideas what I can do about this ? - Friendly greetings from Denmark, Tony Fonager Netcoders ApS - http://www.netcoders.dk Chart.dk - http://www.chart.dk iGroups - http://www.igroups.dk
Getting Orion support from Oracle
Id be very careful about misrepresenting to oracle support that you have an Oracle product with Orion installed in it so you can get assistance on a problem you have with the Orion ONLY product because you feel that the Orion documentation or support is less than optimal. Thats called fraud in some parts of the world. An unlike recent threads discussing contract or license violations, I suspect you could get sued by Oracle.
RE: A connection with the server could not be established error ...
Tony, ie is a little flakey with its 'friendly' messages. Try using ns to see what the exact error is, or turn-off the 'friendly' messages from ie. regards, the elephantwalker -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tony Fonager Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 12:25 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: A connection with the server could not be established error ... I have a problem with an otherwise successfull Orion test implementation. It works well, no errors are generated or trapped during our stress test, but sometimes when calling a webpage on the Orionserver, I get this error in Internet Explorer browser : A connection with the server could not be established I refuses to give me a connection to the server ?!?!?!? Sometimes I just get the wellknown page in Internet Explorer, where it said the server cannot be located or DNS error ... If I refresh, the normal result comes up ... if I continue to press refresh, the same situation can occur again. It must be told, that the machine running this test i VERY stressed, taking up 95% of the processortime during the test. But I cannot accept, that my calls to the Orion server gets cut off - then I would prefer a slow response time, rather then not even getting a connection ... Any ideas what I can do about this ? - Friendly greetings from Denmark, Tony Fonager Netcoders ApS - http://www.netcoders.dk Chart.dk - http://www.chart.dk iGroups - http://www.igroups.dk
RE: Getting Orion support from Oracle
The Oracle support que demands a csi number...no number, no support. With the csi number, oracle knows exactly what you have licensed. Unless you guess at the csi number, its kind-of difficult to fool them. However, otn and the documentation from oracle is available for no cost. We can all take advantage of that. Regards, the elephantwalker -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of DonSent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 12:59 PMTo: Orion-InterestSubject: Getting Orion support from Oracle Id be very careful about misrepresenting to oracle support that you have an Oracle product with Orion installed in it so you can get assistance on a problem you have with the Orion ONLY product because you feel that the Orion documentation or support is less than optimal. Thats called fraud in some parts of the world. An unlike recent threads discussing contract or license violations, I suspect you could get sued by Oracle.
RE: Censorship or slow server ?
Off you go to our local asylum. (sorry, couldn't resist) --- Original Message --- From: Tony Fonager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 6/12/01 7:56:12 AM I posted a message to this list 25 hours ago, exposing some bad experiences with Orion. How come this has not shown up yet, 25 hours later ... ??? Or has the moderator of this list removed my message, as it was a bit negative ?? - Regards, Tony Fonager http://www.netcoders.dk
RE: Oracle deal gag
From: Jay Armstrong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Seriously, smartass, I'd like a 'yes' or 'no' answer from you: do you really think the CIA doesn't monitor the web? I'm not a smartass. I'm just out to get you :-) From Catch-22: They're trying to kill me, Yossarian told him calmly. No one's trying to kill you, Clevinger cried. Then why are they shooting at me? Yossarian asked. They're shooting at *everyone*, Clevinger answered. They're trying to kill everyone. And what difference does that make? The difference between cynicism and paranoia is the difference between: The CIA is monitoring email on the internet. The CIA is monitoring *my* email on the internet. I can, with almost complete confidence, assure you that nobody at Ironflare is censoring your email. From longtime observation of this list, I have discovered that the mailing list software Sucks Bigtime. I'm sorry to say this, because someone at Ironflare probably put a significant amount of time into it in a noble but misguided attempt to show off the Orion server. Unfortunately natural brilliance and a thorough understanding of J2EE do not automatically translate into detailed knowledge of ESMTP and the specific manner in which the hundreds of mail agents out there butcher it. The consequence is that with *frequent* occurance mail is lost, mail is delivered out of order, the list blacks out for weekends at a time, vacation messages get sent to everyone, mail senders get back dozens of bounce messages, etc. I started that thread you mentioned (Orion Team Needs New List Software), and it's still very much true. I suspect that vanity prevents Ironflare from converting to Mailman or some other mature package. As to why Karl never responded to your message about licensing violation, hey, maybe he's too busy working on the broken list software. Or more likely, Orion. Think about it. What's a two-person company in Sweden going to do about somebody 10,000 miles away abusing a $1500 license? The practical limitations of enforcement pretty much mean that anyone that wants to can steal the software. For a small company and a relatively inexpensive product you just have to hope that there are enough honest customers out there to pay your bills. Fortunately it looks like there are. I don't understand why you think the Oracle deal is anything but a fanstastic coup for both us (the Orion community) and Ironflare. It validates the product, puts a significant amount of $$$ in the pockets of Karl Magnus, makes it a lot easier for us to sell Orion to clients, and *radically* increases our market value as experts with The Oracle J2EE Solution as well as the obscure Swedish app server we know and love. Larry and Karl make a deal, and suddenly my resume gets a steroid injection! I couldn't be happier! Will Oracle draw from this community? Send them a resume and find out! What kind of validation are you looking for? Sure we (the users) spend a lot of time debugging the app server - but hey, nobody is forcing us to run the autoupdater. And a lot of people, myself included, consider this just the least we can offer to Ironflare for providing us with a free server. Free for noncommercial use has bought them a lot more than $1500 worth of my time, and I'm quite content about it. Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Oracle deal gag... but on a different note.
Joseph B. Ottinger wrote: On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Jay Armstrong wrote: [...] Greetings, I respectfully request that those carrying on the conspiracy thread of discussion please take it off-list. It has comprised, I estimate, at least 50% of the orion-interest list the past few days. Thanks! Chris Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Oracle deal gag... but on a different note.
Joseph, At 12:57 PM 6/12/01 -0500, you wrote: On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, Jay Armstrong wrote: Sure, I can understand this -- good thing we have orionsupport.com, which isn't affiliated with Ironflare. This is why I've never been willing to advertise anything on orionsupport, and why I'm not directly affiliated in any way with Ironflare - because I want the freedom to some day post something like Orion totally sucks in area XYZ (not mentioning anything like JMS, for example, am I?) without worrying about receiving a warning from the Swedish Mafia. You see, Joseph, it's this kind of humor that makes people think of waking up next to their favorite racehorse's head. Not sure what your point is, here, pardner. After all, I was saying this is why Orionsupport isn't directly affiliated, so that we wouldn't have to worry about that in any case... and then you say something that leads me to believe you took the exact wrong meaning. You've been doing that a lot; this kind of dedication takes a peculiar sort of effort. My point is that some slow people, like me, can't always tell right away when you are kidding (remember A Swedish Idea). Mafia-Godfather I-horsehead in movie director's bed. Get it? The buck stops here sign is on Karl's and Magnus' desk, right? I hope they don't usually ride in the same car together all time. :) Well, I didn't know they HAD desks - I can see Satan doing all his work on a futon for some reason - but at this point, we don't know how much responsibility Oracle has taken. *shrug* We'll see. They may not have desks yet, but they can probably afford to order big, hand-carved, mahogony ones now. I hope so! They deserve them. At any rate, I have a little more information about the deal now than I did; your dire warnings are, IMHO, unfounded. Sure, there are some nasty implications for those poor souls still waiting for Godot^WIronflare to provide Oracle-level support for Orion, but even those are merely implications and not a fomral reality yet. Okay. Somehow, I don't think Karl is going to ever teach me the secret Ironflare handshake. From your previous comment about looking at Oracle, let me cite an example about supporting integrated products. A couple of years ago, I found an error in Adrian Cockroft's book, Sun Performance and Tuning regarding the formulas for shared memory and semaphore settings in etc/system. Of course, Adrian (creator of the VirtualAdrian tools) is a god and I'm just a troll (as someone recently pointed out), but even trolls get lucky now and then. Are you a BLIND troll, that's the real question. [snip, snippety snip snip snip!] BLIND and DUMB. You're slipping, not snipping, Joseph. My point is that the dance between Orion and Oracle could be just as complex. Sure, could be. But isn't. :) I'm not trying to hold some special knowldge over your head, and it's quite possible that what I know is public knowledge, but until I confirm that, I ain't saying. Secret handshake and secret decoder ring... Karl/Magnus have not, apparently, hired the people on the Ironflare side to free them up to address such questions. Just because Oracle has a support infrastucture, call center, help desk, etc, does not mean that Oracle has anyone who can deal with the really tough problems. Doubt THAT - the whole reason they licensed Orion is because they found that they were getting the real tough problems and their lousy infrastructure wasn't set up for it. Not a matter of THEIR SKILL, mind you, but of the original thought that went into their misbegotten app server crap. Maybe so. What about Karl's pledge 6 months ago that hiring the right people was Ironflare's first order of business? They've hired one recently, or so I've heard. Before getting flamed again, I am NOT picking on Orion/Oracle here. I believe orion-interest and orionsupport are more responsive and accurate, generally, than the big companies. I would still have great confidence in just about any Orion/Oracle combination. We shall, as you say, *shrug* see. You sure? Why do you? I have confidence; however, most of my major (Fortune 500) clients have not shown confidence in products where the only two people in the world who understand the guts of it live 8,000 miles away and might get hit by a bolt of lightening at the same time. Something like, Oops, we regret to inform you that we cannot support your $30M startup because the only two people who can answer that question are unavailable. You seem to have inside knowledge about this. Does Oracle (or anyone besides Karl and Magnus) have a copy of the Orion Server source code? I would like to see Oracle at least attempt to hire some of the people around the world who contributed their valuable time to debugging Orion free of charge. NOT ME. I'm not looking for a job with Orionacle. Me either... but I'm not sure if this is your actual gripe. If it is, hey, um, wow... you're over-reacting by a lot,
Can't get taglibs to work in orion
I downloaded the custom tags provided on orion's site and installed them on my orion 1.5.2 server. But when I try to go to the jsp page that uses them I get a 'page cannot be displayed error'. I can run jsp's that do not utilize orion's taglibs so I think it might have something to do with my deployment descriptors. In my web.xml file in web-inf directory i have the following tags: ?xml version="1.0"? !DOCTYPE web-app PUBLIC "-//Sun Microsystems, Inc.//DTD Web Application 2.2//EN" "http://java.sun.com/j2ee/dtds/web-app_2_2.dtd" web-app display-nameHolder Project/display-name login-config auth-methodBASIC/auth-method /login-config taglib taglib-uriutiltags/taglib-uri taglib-location/WEB-INF/lib/utiltags.jar/taglib-location /taglib /web-app and I put %@ taglib uri="utiltags" prefix="util" % at the top of my jsp.With all subsequent code referenced like this util:sometag if someone could please explain what I am doing wrong I would greatly appreciate it.
Re: Censorship or slow server ?
Title: SV: Censorship or slow server ? I have to agree with Mr. Schnitzer that the currentmailing list software is inadequate. I think it would be better to switch to GNU Mailman and reallocate the time spent fussing over the mailing list software towards more productive ends. Just my 2c... BTW, what are the reasons for staying withthe current mailing list software? - Original Message - From: Magnus Rydin To: Orion-Interest Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 5:30 AM Subject: SV: Censorship or slow server ? I've had some posting problems the last 7 days. Try again, the software will soon be updated. WR
It didn't dawn on me
It didn't dawn on me, that as I sit here being a part time Oracle DBA, and playing with J2EE on Resin, Orion, and Jboss in development, I now know the complete Oracle picture, and since we have an Oracle site license, I can run the new Orion software for nothing through Oracle. Of course, I'm the same person who inserted a CD into a Sun server, and couldn't get it to eject. How was I to know you need to type EJECT? Luckily, I didn't have to open a support ticket for this issue. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
RE: Security bug with application clients?
Web Application Authentication seems to work fine - a client of mine is using FORM based authentication for a simple app. I don't know what you mean by dynamic identities - we store userid info in a relational db. I have not checked the j2ee specs for required behaviour of non-Web application clients - what do the specs say? However, I suspect the problem may have to do with the RoleManager, which to my knowledge isn't configurable at this time in Orion and relies on *.xml (non-dynamic as in rel. db?) role definitions. You may want to try to use RoleManager.login (instead of setting the JNDI properties) on your application client - I have not tried it, so don't know wether this works. You may have noticed there is no logout method specified - I don't know how a Web Session does that internally (but it sure works) --peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tim Endres Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 10:51 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Re: Security bug with application clients? I think maybe I didn't make something clear. I am using a java application client, NOT a web client. As such, I cannot invalidate sessions, make posts, etc. I will repeat that we have seen that Orion's InitialContext and Principal identity features do not work. They do not work in servlets, they do not work in client apps. They do not work for JMS. They do not work, Sam I am. We have given up on using any container authentication short of guest. This is only for dynamic identities. It appears that static identity via the 'jndi.properties' file works ok. Orion seems to be written primarily as a web app server, and I have seen very little information on using it as a direct application server (in Orion literature or in the Oracle OC4J docs.) Since very few people are using Orion in this way, I guess I should expect to see a few bugs here and there. (I'm guessing that this is an application-client specific issue.) We use Orion with standalone Java client applications. They work fine. Except for authentication, which does not work.
RE: Can't get taglibs to work in orion
Your setup looks fine same works for me. I assume some typo somewhere else e.g. within the tag. Turn off the nice error messages or whatever it is called in IE, to find out whats going on. --peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tim Pouyer Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 4:30 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Can't get taglibs to work in orion I downloaded the custom tags provided on orion's site and installed them on my orion 1.5.2 server. But when I try to go to the jsp page that uses them I get a 'page cannot be displayed error'. I can run jsp's that do not utilize orion's taglibs so I think it might have something to do with my deployment descriptors. In my web.xml file in web-inf directory i have the following tags: ?xml version=1.0? !DOCTYPE web-app PUBLIC -//Sun Microsystems, Inc.//DTD Web Application 2.2//EN http://java.sun.com/j2ee/dtds/web-app_2_2.dtd web-app display-nameHolder Project/display-name login-config auth-methodBASIC/auth-method /login-config taglib taglib-uriutiltags/taglib-uri taglib-location/WEB-INF/lib/utiltags.jar/taglib-location /taglib /web-app and I put %@ taglib uri=utiltags prefix=util % at the top of my jsp.With all subsequent code referenced like this util:sometag if someone could please explain what I am doing wrong I would greatly appreciate it.
RE: A connection with the server could not be established error ...
FYI, there is an option in IE to NOT show friendly error messages which is more helpful when debugging. Shane Witbeck www.digitalsanctum.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of elephantwalker Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 4:07 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: RE: A connection with the server could not be established error ... Tony, ie is a little flakey with its 'friendly' messages. Try using ns to see what the exact error is, or turn-off the 'friendly' messages from ie. regards, the elephantwalker -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tony Fonager Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 12:25 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: A connection with the server could not be established error ... I have a problem with an otherwise successfull Orion test implementation. It works well, no errors are generated or trapped during our stress test, but sometimes when calling a webpage on the Orionserver, I get this error in Internet Explorer browser : A connection with the server could not be established I refuses to give me a connection to the server ?!?!?!? Sometimes I just get the wellknown page in Internet Explorer, where it said the server cannot be located or DNS error ... If I refresh, the normal result comes up ... if I continue to press refresh, the same situation can occur again. It must be told, that the machine running this test i VERY stressed, taking up 95% of the processortime during the test. But I cannot accept, that my calls to the Orion server gets cut off - then I would prefer a slow response time, rather then not even getting a connection ... Any ideas what I can do about this ? - Friendly greetings from Denmark, Tony Fonager Netcoders ApS - http://www.netcoders.dk Chart.dk - http://www.chart.dk iGroups - http://www.igroups.dk
using jDriver from BEA WebLogic
Title: using jDriver from BEA WebLogic Hi all, How can I use the WebLogic jDriver for MS SQL Server 7 in jsp pages with Orion? This driver has a license file, and when I start the jsp page, there's an error: LicenseNotFoundException. How can I show the server way to the license file? I've changed my system classpath toward the license file, but it did not affect. Does Orion use the system classpath or it has another one? Thanks Binh Duong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Can't get taglibs to work in orion
Might be something to do with the fact that the web.xml dtd requires a certain ordering. I've run into this before and it was extremely difficult to figure out exactly what happened. After I discovered the problem I then could not fathom Sun wrote the dtd to require a particullaar order. Either way, try putting the taglib lines before your security constraint. -Original Message-From: Tim Pouyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 3:30 PMTo: Orion-InterestSubject: Can't get taglibs to work in orion I downloaded the custom tags provided on orion's site and installed them on my orion 1.5.2 server. But when I try to go to the jsp page that uses them I get a 'page cannot be displayed error'. I can run jsp's that do not utilize orion's taglibs so I think it might have something to do with my deployment descriptors. In my web.xml file in web-inf directory i have the following tags: ?xml version="1.0"? !DOCTYPE web-app PUBLIC "-//Sun Microsystems, Inc.//DTD Web Application 2.2//EN" "http://java.sun.com/j2ee/dtds/web-app_2_2.dtd" web-app display-nameHolder Project/display-name login-config auth-methodBASIC/auth-method /login-config taglib taglib-uriutiltags/taglib-uri taglib-location/WEB-INF/lib/utiltags.jar/taglib-location /taglib /web-app and I put %@ taglib uri="utiltags" prefix="util" % at the top of my jsp.With all subsequent code referenced like this util:sometag if someone could please explain what I am doing wrong I would greatly appreciate it.
javax.servlet.Config
Hi, Group, I've found a class javax.servlet.Config in Orion.jar. But there is no such a class defination in in the Servlet Specs (2.3). Could someone enlight me on this issue please? Regards, Yeoman Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
Please help me
Hi Everybody I am having problem in getting orion connected to Oracle 8i on Solaris 8 . I cannot execute the addressbook example due to that though i have successfully tested the Orion-Primer which is without EJBs I keep getting SQL IOException . Network Adapter Error When it is deploying the application.jar file I have following configuration 1) Solaris 8 2) Oracle 8i 3) j2sdk1.3.1 as i want to implement SSL 4) j2sdkee1.3.1 5) Orion1.4.0 I am using CMP for Entity Bean I have following data-source data-source class=oracle.jdbc.pool.OracleDataSource name=Oracle location=jdbc/devDS xa-location=jdbc/xa/devXA ejb-location=jdbc/devDS connection-driver=oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver url=jdbc:oracle:thin:system/manager@station-one:1521:application username=system password=manager inactivity-timeout=30 schema=database-schemas/oracle.xml / I have gone through all through the mailing list but no success. Can you please help me with this. Thanks Mahesh __ 123India.com - India's Premier Portal Get your Free Email Account at http://www.123india.com
Re: Please help me
data-source Change the following line the read the evermind class copy and paste the line from the Hypersonic datasource class ... class=REPLACE THIS TO READ the evermind class oracle.jdbc.pool.OracleDataSource name=Oracle location=jdbc/devDS xa-location=jdbc/xa/devXA ejb-location=jdbc/devDS connection-driver=oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver url=jdbc:oracle:thin:system/manager@station-one:1521:application username=system password=manager inactivity-timeout=30 schema=database-schemas/oracle.xml / --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everybody I am having problem in getting orion connected to Oracle 8i on Solaris 8 . I cannot execute the addressbook example due to that though i have successfully tested the Orion-Primer which is without EJBs I keep getting SQL IOException . Network Adapter Error When it is deploying the application.jar file I have following configuration 1) Solaris 8 2) Oracle 8i 3) j2sdk1.3.1 as i want to implement SSL 4) j2sdkee1.3.1 5) Orion1.4.0 I am using CMP for Entity Bean I have following data-source data-source class=oracle.jdbc.pool.OracleDataSource name=Oracle location=jdbc/devDS xa-location=jdbc/xa/devXA ejb-location=jdbc/devDS connection-driver=oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver url=jdbc:oracle:thin:system/manager@station-one:1521:application username=system password=manager inactivity-timeout=30 schema=database-schemas/oracle.xml / I have gone through all through the mailing list but no success. Can you please help me with this. Thanks Mahesh __ 123India.com - India's Premier Portal Get your Free Email Account at http://www.123india.com = __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
RE: Security bug with application clients?
Please give more details. It is confusing to hear that it doesn't work when
in my case all works. I checked 3 different cases:
1) WEB authentication - OK,
2) application-clent with jndi.prop file - OK.
3) remote client with properties set via Initial Context
(+RMIInitialContextFactory instead of ClientInitialContextFact) - OK.
So what's the point?
-Original Message-
From: cybermaster [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 13 2001 01:20
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: Security bug with application clients?
Web Application Authentication seems to work fine - a client of mine is
using FORM based authentication for a simple app. I don't know what you
mean
by "dynamic" identities - we store userid info in a relational db.
I have not checked the j2ee specs for required behaviour of non-Web
application clients - what do the specs say? However, I suspect the
problem
may have to do with the RoleManager, which to my knowledge isn't
configurable at this time in Orion and relies on *.xml ("non-dynamic as in
rel. db"?) role definitions. You may want to try to use RoleManager.login
(instead of setting the JNDI properties) on your application client - I
have
not tried it, so don't know wether this works. You may have noticed there
is
no logout method specified - I don't know how a Web Session does that
internally (but it sure works)
--peter
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tim Endres
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 10:51 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: Security bug with application clients?
I think maybe I didn't make something clear. I am using a java
"application" client, NOT a web client. As such, I cannot invalidate
sessions, make posts, etc.
I will repeat that we have seen that Orion's InitialContext and Principal
identity
features do not work. They do not work in servlets, they do not work in
client apps.
They do not work for JMS. They do not work, Sam I am. We have given up on
using any
container authentication short of "guest". This is only for "dynamic"
identities.
It appears that static identity via the 'jndi.properties' file works ok.
Orion seems to be written primarily as a web app server, and I have seen
very little information on using it as a direct application server (in
Orion
literature or in the Oracle OC4J docs.) Since very few people are using
Orion in this way, I guess I should expect to see a few bugs here and
there.
(I'm guessing that this is an application-client specific issue.)
We use Orion with standalone Java client applications. They work fine.
Except for authentication, which does not work.
Re: Can't get taglibs to work in orion
Tim, I think your taglib-location should point to a taglib descriptor file instead. Following is an example fromone of myapplications: taglib taglib-uri/util/taglib-uri taglib-locationweb-inf/tlds/tags.tld/taglib-location /taglib Also note the slash before 'util' and the absence of the slash before 'web-inf'. Gordon. - Original Message - From: Tim Pouyer To: Orion-Interest Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 3:29 PM Subject: Can't get taglibs to work in orion I downloaded the custom tags provided on orion's site and installed them on my orion 1.5.2 server. But when I try to go to the jsp page that uses them I get a 'page cannot be displayed error'. I can run jsp's that do not utilize orion's taglibs so I think it might have something to do with my deployment descriptors. In my web.xml file in web-inf directory i have the following tags: ?xml version="1.0"? !DOCTYPE web-app PUBLIC "-//Sun Microsystems, Inc.//DTD Web Application 2.2//EN" "http://java.sun.com/j2ee/dtds/web-app_2_2.dtd" web-app display-nameHolder Project/display-name login-config auth-methodBASIC/auth-method /login-config taglib taglib-uriutiltags/taglib-uri taglib-location/WEB-INF/lib/utiltags.jar/taglib-location /taglib /web-app and I put %@ taglib uri="utiltags" prefix="util" % at the top of my jsp.With all subsequent code referenced like this util:sometag if someone could please explain what I am doing wrong I would greatly appreciate it.
Re: using jDriver from BEA WebLogic
I think from reading other people's posts, that the system's classpath is not used when running a jar. You can put it into one of the lib or classes directories. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/13/01 11:32am Hi all, How can I use the WebLogic jDriver for MS SQL Server 7 in jsp pages with Orion? This driver has a license file, and when I start the jsp page, there's an error: LicenseNotFoundException. How can I show the server way to the license file? I've changed my system classpath toward the license file, but it did not affect. Does Orion use the system classpath or it has another one? Thanks Binh Duong [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This message has been scanned by MailSweeper. --- --- This e-mail is solely for the use of the intended recepient and may contain information which is confidential or privileged. Unauthorised use of its contents is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately via e-mail and then delete the original e-mail. ---
