Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

[Hasanuddin Abu Bakar]

long time suffering company. segan hidup mati tak mahu.


On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah
 wrote:
> i tried to contact them using the contact form, but after clicking on the
> submit button, nothing happens . was my email submitted or not ? i think i
> have retried clicking 20 times.
> http://myemail.my/contact.aspx
>
> anyone knows how to sign up for the beta program ?
>
> by the way, i sister managed to sell her shares at 30sen, on friday it
> closed at 20sen.
> http://biz.thestar.com.my/marketwatch/charts/l.asp?code=0062~TCUBES&p1=0.185&p2=0.18&p3=0.225&p4=0.18&p5=0.205&p6=0.02&p7=10.81&p8=228763&p9=0.765
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Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

i tried to contact them using the contact form, but after clicking on the
submit button, nothing happens . was my email submitted or not ? i think i
have retried clicking 20 times.
http://myemail.my/contact.aspx

anyone knows how to sign up for the beta program ?

by the way, i sister managed to sell her shares at 30sen, on friday it
closed at 20sen.
http://biz.thestar.com.my/marketwatch/charts/l.asp?code=0062~TCUBES&p1=0.185&p2=0.18&p3=0.225&p4=0.18&p5=0.205&p6=0.02&p7=10.81&p8=228763&p9=0.765

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Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

[Maulvi Bakar]

Many years ago, during the PRU9, an anonymous policeman spoke to me
commenting about these opposition movement trying to topple the present
government.

The comment was along these lines - Why bother at all being so active in the
opposition, the present government will surely be gone in 20 years time!
It'll be replaced!

I have no answer to that policeman's comment back then. Long I ponder the
meaning of those words and I've arrived at the answer -

It may surely change and the prediction on the date may be spot-on, give or
take a year or so (It is approaching 20 years since PRU9!), *BUT* we cannot
leave things be.

Tricubes silly email proposal may look inevitable. That does not warrant
them to be given a free ride.  The people, especially the ICT community must
make their displeasure known.

Send a message to them - judgment day is nigh and coming!


On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel  wrote:

> Frankly,
>
> This project will go ahead, its going to be implemented.
>
> Why?
>
> Berdasarkan pandangan saya daripada pelbagai perkara yang berlaku
> ianya dipertahankan dengan begitu sekali. Kenyataan akhbar, press
> conference and such.
>
> Projek ini ada banyak kepentingan non ICT untuk ia dihentikan...
> (politik dan  )
>
> So ?
>
> Banyak mana pun kita ngomel, kritik, email, kutuk, bantah, maki, *%$&
> and many more words. Its waste our time .
>
> Then?
>
> Kita semua nanti perlu juga gunakan sebab, saman polis dan JPA akan
> hanya melalui thats email. Tidak lagi pos.
>
> Next?
>
> Back to our main issue. We need a big and branded company like Microsoft.
>
> Lets discuss how.
>
> How??
>
> On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 8:41 AM, red1  wrote:
> > Boh, thanks for the link, which i can see:
> >
> > "Tricubes shares soar on news it will be working with Microsoft"
> >
> > Now that pops the spiritual question - Is that not what we all care
> about?
> > It is making money legally. With FOSS you cannot make that kind of money.
> > Give it up guys.
> >
> > I mean look at the pathetic of us here, without dough, swimming among
> > sharks, just got our lifebelts yanked (MDec financial support) and the
> heli
> > did not show up (RM10m promise from MDec) and still lots of borang-borang
> to
> > fill up while kicking hard in the water (to get tidbits from the so
> called
> > RM10m). But the final laugh should come while you get 'lucky' and called
> up
> > by MOSTI to defend your proposal with the question, "Can you idea beat
> > Tricubes idea of working with MS and become commercially viable?"
> >
> > Side-note to Raja: "Is the above the kind of rant you wished for?"
> > Side-note to Rafe: "Just having fun on a Sunday morning cos i aint going
> to
> > church. :)"
> >
> > On 5/8/11 12:47 AM, E A Faisal wrote:
> >
> > Dear Mr Pemandu Director, sir, are you on crack or somethin'?
> >
> > On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Boh Yap  wrote:
> >>
> >> sorry, I wrote this some time back, but it got stuck in my outbox, or
> >> rather drafts... but the arguments are still valid.
> >>
> >> BTW, in yesterdays TheStar, Idris Jala head of PEMANDU came out with a
> >> full 2-page 'expalnation' for the 1Malaysia email...
> >>
> >>
> >> more updates on triCubes
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/4/22/business/8530788&sec=business
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

[Umarzuki Mochlis]

2011/5/8 Harisfazillah Jamel 

> ...
>
> KK-LUG in discussion to build private cloud for their own community
> RnD. Nice.. Keep up..
>
>
now that speaks

later on that could be massive

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Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

Team,

My advice, if we know things that may be protected by OSA, please keep
its to ourself. This mailing list is public. Tak bagus untuk
kesihatan. :)

Lets put this discussion on how we can improved the proposal for the
better of rakyat, technically. May be, may be what we write will get
to them and they review the plan. :p

Or ... Later as community we will build that system ourself. Hehehe...

FYI

KK-LUG in discussion to build private cloud for their own community
RnD. Nice.. Keep up..

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Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

[Khairul Nadzmi]

Hi,

I also am against the goverment giving free contract to tricubes for this 
project.furthermore with that such amount i believe malaysian can do it rather 
than subcontracting it to microsoft.

However, MOSTI has assigned CyberSecurity Malaysia to look into the security 
part of. I'm still not sure what is the task as the meeting was initial meeting 
was done last week. 

I believe i can voice out this issue of the mx being pointed outside of 
malaysia. I too against tricubes getting the wholesome of money and fyi, MOSTI 
was not in the loop of the email propaganda..haha.

So lets voice out the incapabilities of this project!!

Sent from my iPhone

On 08/05/2011, at 10:47, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte 
 wrote:

> It's that with all the supposed brain cells in the R&D divisions in the Gvt; 
> nobody is willing to take ownership of being the first to make a usable and 
> practical cloud for the Public Sector. 
> 
> MIMOS, can forget abt them. It's more of a playground that wastes the tax 
> payers' money. MOSTI? The whole lot of them are politicians; they should 
> consider taking out the I in their acronym since they hardly do anything 
> "innovative" that is visible and viable. 
> 
> In short, doing a cloud infra entails a lot of work but no clear path for the 
> many bureaucrats to upgrade to a higher salary scale.
> 
> Malaysia Boleh.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 3:01 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel 
>  wrote:
> Thinking of its, its possible to make data in MY by cloud computing.
> Private cloud still need infra.
> 
> Imaging thousand of government servers in the cloud.
> 
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
>  wrote:
> > MAMPU was so adamant that Gomen data must reside in MY. Now they are all
> > just quiet coz the PM has already announced this initiative.
> >
> > Morons!
> >
> > Eric
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 1:02 AM, E A Faisal  wrote:
> >>
> >> My concern is the phrase "secure communication with the government". The
> >> MX record clearly shows it points to the data center in the US. From
> >> national security standpoint, this is very so insecure.
> >>
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On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini <
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> action speak lauder than words..baik buat keje sampai habis je dulu


*louder :p

>
> On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte <
> msiantuxlo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It's that with all the supposed brain cells in the R&D divisions in the
>> Gvt; nobody is willing to take ownership of being the first to make a usable
>> and practical cloud for the Public Sector.
>>
>> MIMOS, can forget abt them. It's more of a playground that wastes the tax
>> payers' money. MOSTI? The whole lot of them are politicians; they should
>> consider taking out the I in their acronym since they hardly do anything
>> "innovative" that is visible and viable.
>>
>> In short, doing a cloud infra entails a lot of work but no clear path for
>> the many bureaucrats to upgrade to a higher salary scale.
>>
>> Malaysia Boleh.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 3:01 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel <
>> linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thinking of its, its possible to make data in MY by cloud computing.
>>> Private cloud still need infra.
>>>
>>> Imaging thousand of government servers in the cloud.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
>>>  wrote:
>>> > MAMPU was so adamant that Gomen data must reside in MY. Now they are
>>> all
>>> > just quiet coz the PM has already announced this initiative.
>>> >
>>> > Morons!
>>> >
>>> > Eric
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 1:02 AM, E A Faisal 
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> My concern is the phrase "secure communication with the government".
>>> The
>>> >> MX record clearly shows it points to the data center in the US. From
>>> >> national security standpoint, this is very so insecure.
>>> >>
>>>
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Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

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action speak lauder than words..baik buat keje sampai habis je dulu

On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte <
msiantuxlo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It's that with all the supposed brain cells in the R&D divisions in the
> Gvt; nobody is willing to take ownership of being the first to make a usable
> and practical cloud for the Public Sector.
>
> MIMOS, can forget abt them. It's more of a playground that wastes the tax
> payers' money. MOSTI? The whole lot of them are politicians; they should
> consider taking out the I in their acronym since they hardly do anything
> "innovative" that is visible and viable.
>
> In short, doing a cloud infra entails a lot of work but no clear path for
> the many bureaucrats to upgrade to a higher salary scale.
>
> Malaysia Boleh.
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 3:01 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel <
> linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thinking of its, its possible to make data in MY by cloud computing.
>> Private cloud still need infra.
>>
>> Imaging thousand of government servers in the cloud.
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
>>  wrote:
>> > MAMPU was so adamant that Gomen data must reside in MY. Now they are all
>> > just quiet coz the PM has already announced this initiative.
>> >
>> > Morons!
>> >
>> > Eric
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 1:02 AM, E A Faisal  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> My concern is the phrase "secure communication with the government".
>> The
>> >> MX record clearly shows it points to the data center in the US. From
>> >> national security standpoint, this is very so insecure.
>> >>
>>
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Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

[Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte]

It's that with all the supposed brain cells in the R&D divisions in the Gvt;
nobody is willing to take ownership of being the first to make a usable and
practical cloud for the Public Sector.

MIMOS, can forget abt them. It's more of a playground that wastes the tax
payers' money. MOSTI? The whole lot of them are politicians; they should
consider taking out the I in their acronym since they hardly do anything
"innovative" that is visible and viable.

In short, doing a cloud infra entails a lot of work but no clear path for
the many bureaucrats to upgrade to a higher salary scale.

Malaysia Boleh.



On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 3:01 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel <
linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thinking of its, its possible to make data in MY by cloud computing.
> Private cloud still need infra.
>
> Imaging thousand of government servers in the cloud.
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
>  wrote:
> > MAMPU was so adamant that Gomen data must reside in MY. Now they are all
> > just quiet coz the PM has already announced this initiative.
> >
> > Morons!
> >
> > Eric
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 1:02 AM, E A Faisal  wrote:
> >>
> >> My concern is the phrase "secure communication with the government". The
> >> MX record clearly shows it points to the data center in the US. From
> >> national security standpoint, this is very so insecure.
> >>
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Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

[Mohamad Imran]

Awal pagi tadi dah siapkan artikel tentang KOSTEM di blog Melayubuntu
(beliau bagi kebenaran nak menulis dalam blognya). Tapi tak up lagi.. Hehe..
Biasalah, bertamu kat tempat orang... Jadi berjaga-jaga untuk dapat trafik
tinggi pasal KOSTEM. Muahahaha!!!

2011/5/8 Harisfazillah Jamel 

> @Garfield
>
> Salah
>
> "U bagi ni tender kat I, I charge RM50M, RM1M ko punye. Cukup?"
>
> KOSTEM
>
> Luckly we have mailing KOSTEM Dalaman. I do agree with you but this
> things in any activities we do have macam ni. Bising2. Tak boleh nak
> buat apa. I always look into the silver line of things. Lets them
> email and give opinions, to create the awareness and keep the interest
> going. We are the one the sufferer will do the filtering and lets we
> keep on excute it. Lama-lama nanti adalah yang join in.
>
> We need another 25 people with address KL/Selangor. Ini sahaja halang
> kita untuk pergi daftar.
>
> Back to 1Malaysia email 
>
> On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Garfield WTF  wrote:
> > @Red1,
> > I believe most of us here, dunno the skill of:
> > "U bagi ni tender kat I, I charge RM50M, RM40M ko punye."
> > LOL
> >
> > And by the way, It seems like even M$ don't know there is such deals
> going
> > on. Or else, they will be using this to advertise them self around. I
> smell
> > something more fishy behind this "Tricubes" project.
> >
> >
> ---
> > To the other ppl,
> >
> > And at here, I would like to express out my thoughts about the KOSTEM
> > mailing list.
> > I'm sure a lot of you already realize this and never though of wanted to
> > voice it out.
> > As usual, I become the basher again.
> >
> > Do you agree that there are too much noise in the mailing list of KOSTEM
> > which caused most of us who want to build up the Co-Op company to be
> delayed
> > for so long?
> >
> > Do you agree that most replies in the KOSTEM mailing list, are actually
> not
> > any useful input, rather, they are just some 'hoohah' kind of response? I
> > believe more than 50% of the replies are such kind of replies in the
> mailing
> > list.
> >
> > Do you agree that majority of the people who reply in the mailing list,
> > never showed up during our 1st meeting and just tumpang in the mailing
> list
> > for cheer only?
> >
> > Well, if you answer these questions yourself, I believe you'll understand
> > why there is not much replies from people who really wanted to build up
> this
> > co-op company. Because of too much noise in the mailing list until we
> missed
> > those useful input in the mailing list to make necessary response.
> >
> > Anyway, attack me as usual, this is not something new to me for getting
> > attack anyway.
> > :P
> >
> >
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Yeah, it is very fortunate to have the KOSTEM Dalaman mailing list where
core discussion without contamination can be read peacefully.


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[Garfield WTF]

Some error on my previous reply.
Change the "50%" to 40%, as there is less noise nowadays in the KOSTEM
mailing list already.

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Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

@Garfield

Salah

"U bagi ni tender kat I, I charge RM50M, RM1M ko punye. Cukup?"

KOSTEM

Luckly we have mailing KOSTEM Dalaman. I do agree with you but this
things in any activities we do have macam ni. Bising2. Tak boleh nak
buat apa. I always look into the silver line of things. Lets them
email and give opinions, to create the awareness and keep the interest
going. We are the one the sufferer will do the filtering and lets we
keep on excute it. Lama-lama nanti adalah yang join in.

We need another 25 people with address KL/Selangor. Ini sahaja halang
kita untuk pergi daftar.

Back to 1Malaysia email 

On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Garfield WTF  wrote:
> @Red1,
> I believe most of us here, dunno the skill of:
> "U bagi ni tender kat I, I charge RM50M, RM40M ko punye."
> LOL
>
> And by the way, It seems like even M$ don't know there is such deals going
> on. Or else, they will be using this to advertise them self around. I smell
> something more fishy behind this "Tricubes" project.
>
> ---
> To the other ppl,
>
> And at here, I would like to express out my thoughts about the KOSTEM
> mailing list.
> I'm sure a lot of you already realize this and never though of wanted to
> voice it out.
> As usual, I become the basher again.
>
> Do you agree that there are too much noise in the mailing list of KOSTEM
> which caused most of us who want to build up the Co-Op company to be delayed
> for so long?
>
> Do you agree that most replies in the KOSTEM mailing list, are actually not
> any useful input, rather, they are just some 'hoohah' kind of response? I
> believe more than 50% of the replies are such kind of replies in the mailing
> list.
>
> Do you agree that majority of the people who reply in the mailing list,
> never showed up during our 1st meeting and just tumpang in the mailing list
> for cheer only?
>
> Well, if you answer these questions yourself, I believe you'll understand
> why there is not much replies from people who really wanted to build up this
> co-op company. Because of too much noise in the mailing list until we missed
> those useful input in the mailing list to make necessary response.
>
> Anyway, attack me as usual, this is not something new to me for getting
> attack anyway.
> :P
>
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[Garfield WTF]

@Red1,
I believe most of us here, dunno the skill of:
"U bagi ni tender kat I, I charge RM50M, RM40M ko punye."
LOL

And by the way, It seems like even M$ don't know there is such deals going
on. Or else, they will be using this to advertise them self around. I smell
something more fishy behind this "Tricubes" project.

---
To the other ppl,

And at here, I would like to express out my thoughts about the KOSTEM
mailing list.
I'm sure a lot of you already realize this and never though of wanted to
voice it out.
As usual, I become the basher again.

Do you agree that there are too much noise in the mailing list of KOSTEM
which caused most of us who want to build up the Co-Op company to be delayed
for so long?

Do you agree that most replies in the KOSTEM mailing list, are actually not
any useful input, rather, they are just some 'hoohah' kind of response? I
believe more than 50% of the replies are such kind of replies in the mailing
list.

Do you agree that majority of the people who reply in the mailing list,
never showed up during our 1st meeting and just tumpang in the mailing list
for cheer only?

Well, if you answer these questions yourself, I believe you'll understand
why there is not much replies from people who really wanted to build up this
co-op company. Because of too much noise in the mailing list until we missed
those useful input in the mailing list to make necessary response.

Anyway, attack me as usual, this is not something new to me for getting
attack anyway.
:P


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Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

Frankly,

This project will go ahead, its going to be implemented.

Why?

Berdasarkan pandangan saya daripada pelbagai perkara yang berlaku
ianya dipertahankan dengan begitu sekali. Kenyataan akhbar, press
conference and such.

Projek ini ada banyak kepentingan non ICT untuk ia dihentikan...
(politik dan  )

So ?

Banyak mana pun kita ngomel, kritik, email, kutuk, bantah, maki, *%$&
and many more words. Its waste our time .

Then?

Kita semua nanti perlu juga gunakan sebab, saman polis dan JPA akan
hanya melalui thats email. Tidak lagi pos.

Next?

Back to our main issue. We need a big and branded company like Microsoft.

Lets discuss how.

How??

On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 8:41 AM, red1  wrote:
> Boh, thanks for the link, which i can see:
>
> "Tricubes shares soar on news it will be working with Microsoft"
>
> Now that pops the spiritual question - Is that not what we all care about?
> It is making money legally. With FOSS you cannot make that kind of money.
> Give it up guys.
>
> I mean look at the pathetic of us here, without dough, swimming among
> sharks, just got our lifebelts yanked (MDec financial support) and the heli
> did not show up (RM10m promise from MDec) and still lots of borang-borang to
> fill up while kicking hard in the water (to get tidbits from the so called
> RM10m). But the final laugh should come while you get 'lucky' and called up
> by MOSTI to defend your proposal with the question, "Can you idea beat
> Tricubes idea of working with MS and become commercially viable?"
>
> Side-note to Raja: "Is the above the kind of rant you wished for?"
> Side-note to Rafe: "Just having fun on a Sunday morning cos i aint going to
> church. :)"
>
> On 5/8/11 12:47 AM, E A Faisal wrote:
>
> Dear Mr Pemandu Director, sir, are you on crack or somethin'?
>
> On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Boh Yap  wrote:
>>
>> sorry, I wrote this some time back, but it got stuck in my outbox, or
>> rather drafts... but the arguments are still valid.
>>
>> BTW, in yesterdays TheStar, Idris Jala head of PEMANDU came out with a
>> full 2-page 'expalnation' for the 1Malaysia email...
>>
>>
>> more updates on triCubes
>>
>>
>> http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/4/22/business/8530788&sec=business
>
>
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Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

[red1]

Boh, thanks for the link, which i can see:
"Tricubes shares soar
on news it will be working with Microsoft"

Now that pops the spiritual question - Is that not what we all care
about? It is making money legally. With FOSS you cannot make that kind
of money. Give it up guys.

I mean look at the pathetic of us here, without dough, swimming among
sharks, just got our lifebelts yanked (MDec financial support) and the
heli did not show up (RM10m promise from MDec) and still lots of
borang-borang to fill up while kicking hard in the water (to get
tidbits from the so called RM10m). But the final laugh should come
while you get 'lucky' and called up by MOSTI to defend your proposal
with the question, "Can you idea beat Tricubes idea of working with MS
and become commercially viable?"

Side-note to Raja: "Is the above the kind of rant you wished for?"
Side-note to Rafe: "Just having fun on a Sunday morning cos i aint
going to church. :)"

On 5/8/11 12:47 AM, E A Faisal wrote:
Dear Mr Pemandu Director, sir, are you on crack or
somethin'?
  
  On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Boh Yap 
wrote:
  sorry,
I wrote this some time back, but it got stuck in my outbox, or
rather drafts... but the arguments are still valid.

BTW, in yesterdays TheStar, Idris Jala head of PEMANDU came out with a
full 2-page 'expalnation' for the 1Malaysia email...


more updates on triCubes

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/4/22/business/8530788&sec=business
  
  

 





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Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

[E A Faisal]

Dear Mr Pemandu Director, sir, are you on crack or somethin'?

On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Boh Yap  wrote:

> sorry, I wrote this some time back, but it got stuck in my outbox, or
> rather drafts... but the arguments are still valid.
>
> BTW, in yesterdays TheStar, Idris Jala head of PEMANDU came out with a
> full 2-page 'expalnation' for the 1Malaysia email...
>
>
> more updates on triCubes
>
>
> http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/4/22/business/8530788&sec=business
>
> There are comments made by Pemandu Director: Dr Fadhlullah Suhaimi
> Abdul Malek which is 'interesting' and deserve some comments...
>
> 
>
>For example, the Road Transport Department sends out (via snail
>mail) about two million summonses and notifications yearly that
>cost them about RM1 just to send out and another RM1 if the
>receiver replied.
>
>Tricubes offers 50 sen for the transaction. Just imagine how much
>of taxpayers' money we can save. But the agencies have the right
>to decline the services offered,”
>
> 
>
> ...50c that's a healthy profit considering the cost of pushing bits
> down the wire is next to nothing... comparing to transporting pieces
> of paper.
>
> Obviously the party that loses out will be Pos Malaysia (PM). But then
> again, if the costs/revenue goes to PM, since its tax-payers money, it
> stays within the gov. and goes to pay salaries for civil servants
> etc...
>
> With Tricubes, it goes into private sector pockets... why should my
> tax dollars do that? Is Tricubes gonna grow the industry?
>
> Well this deal certainly saved their butt with the Stock Exchange!
>
> 
>
>   Tricubes is the only company that is publicly listed and our
>   evaluation team has a set of criteria based on techonology, know-
>   how and past performance,” he said.
>
> 
>
> Hmm, technology? Tricubes from what I can gather has little knowhow on
> managing large servers and services. Their core business is on mobile
> terminals (with smart card readers etc...), and they have a USB device
> that reads fingerprints, ... So maybe that's why they 'outsource' to
> MS Hotmail
>
> As Marcus, from InternetNow mentioned, they have a made in Malaysia
> Mail Server, that can compete against the likes of MS Xchange, but
> they were not called to tender?!
>
> So to say Technology was a criteria for the decision by PEMANDU is
> definitely a bit of a stretch... from my perspective, or for the
> average person on this list.
>
>
> 
>The main difference is that your identity data is authenticated by the
>(NRD)National Registration Department that will give accurate
>information on the email.
>
> This is actually good for advertisers that usually rely on gender and
> age group to promote specific products,” he said, adding that
> personal data of the users, as usual, would be protected by
> Personal Data Protection Act.
> 
>
> If this is the case, does it mean that other service providers can
> also use NRD to provide authentification service? As NRD is a gov.
> agency, it should provide equal services to all parties, no? Off
> course subject to the regulations etc... And if NRD is not providing
> this as a service, perhaps they should!
>
> The second para is a bit worrying... does it mean that Tricubes will
> use or resell our NRD data! Are we gonna get spam from TriCubes?
>
>
> There was also a few issues raised in earlier posts which are very
> relevant:
>
> Colin Charles mentioned..., yes there is a need for a national Digital
> ID service (but Tricubes in all their announcements never positioned
> themselves this way), ie: a Malaysian OpenID service and the like.
>
> This will prevent fraud, provide authentification ad authorisation for
> eGov and other online services, a boon to eCommerce etc... BUT there
> is no mention that Tricubes is doing this.
>
> If there is to be a National Digital ID service, then the obvious
> party to do this would be the National Registration Department, after
> all they are the ones that issue our NRIC cards!
>
> And if anyone were to do this, there is no need to spend 10's millions
> to develop new technology, the OpenID foundation provides the protocol
> standards and libraries to do this... just build on them. And they are
> keen to work with governments.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 1:02 AM, E A Faisal  wrote:
> > My concern is the phrase "secure communication with the government". The
> MX
> > record clearly shows it points to the data center in the US. From
> national
> > security standpoint, this is very so insecure.
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> yes, i believe the article has highlighted a very important opportunity
> >> moving forward - the implementation of cyber id authentication for
> malaysia.
> >>
> >> imagine the potential - register once and use the id to access all the
> >> participating govt agencies (no need to register).
> >>
> >> example : dbkl / tnb / pt

Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

[Boh Yap]

sorry, I wrote this some time back, but it got stuck in my outbox, or
rather drafts... but the arguments are still valid.

BTW, in yesterdays TheStar, Idris Jala head of PEMANDU came out with a
full 2-page 'expalnation' for the 1Malaysia email...


more updates on triCubes

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/4/22/business/8530788&sec=business

There are comments made by Pemandu Director: Dr Fadhlullah Suhaimi
Abdul Malek which is 'interesting' and deserve some comments...



For example, the Road Transport Department sends out (via snail
mail) about two million summonses and notifications yearly that
cost them about RM1 just to send out and another RM1 if the
receiver replied.

Tricubes offers 50 sen for the transaction. Just imagine how much
of taxpayers' money we can save. But the agencies have the right
to decline the services offered,”



...50c that's a healthy profit considering the cost of pushing bits
down the wire is next to nothing... comparing to transporting pieces
of paper.

Obviously the party that loses out will be Pos Malaysia (PM). But then
again, if the costs/revenue goes to PM, since its tax-payers money, it
stays within the gov. and goes to pay salaries for civil servants
etc...

With Tricubes, it goes into private sector pockets... why should my
tax dollars do that? Is Tricubes gonna grow the industry?

Well this deal certainly saved their butt with the Stock Exchange!



   Tricubes is the only company that is publicly listed and our
   evaluation team has a set of criteria based on techonology, know-
   how and past performance,” he said.



Hmm, technology? Tricubes from what I can gather has little knowhow on
managing large servers and services. Their core business is on mobile
terminals (with smart card readers etc...), and they have a USB device
that reads fingerprints, ... So maybe that's why they 'outsource' to
MS Hotmail

As Marcus, from InternetNow mentioned, they have a made in Malaysia
Mail Server, that can compete against the likes of MS Xchange, but
they were not called to tender?!

So to say Technology was a criteria for the decision by PEMANDU is
definitely a bit of a stretch... from my perspective, or for the
average person on this list.



The main difference is that your identity data is authenticated by the
(NRD)National Registration Department that will give accurate
information on the email.

 This is actually good for advertisers that usually rely on gender and
 age group to promote specific products,” he said, adding that
 personal data of the users, as usual, would be protected by
 Personal Data Protection Act.


If this is the case, does it mean that other service providers can
also use NRD to provide authentification service? As NRD is a gov.
agency, it should provide equal services to all parties, no? Off
course subject to the regulations etc... And if NRD is not providing
this as a service, perhaps they should!

The second para is a bit worrying... does it mean that Tricubes will
use or resell our NRD data! Are we gonna get spam from TriCubes?


There was also a few issues raised in earlier posts which are very relevant:

Colin Charles mentioned..., yes there is a need for a national Digital
ID service (but Tricubes in all their announcements never positioned
themselves this way), ie: a Malaysian OpenID service and the like.

This will prevent fraud, provide authentification ad authorisation for
eGov and other online services, a boon to eCommerce etc... BUT there
is no mention that Tricubes is doing this.

If there is to be a National Digital ID service, then the obvious
party to do this would be the National Registration Department, after
all they are the ones that issue our NRIC cards!

And if anyone were to do this, there is no need to spend 10's millions
to develop new technology, the OpenID foundation provides the protocol
standards and libraries to do this... just build on them. And they are
keen to work with governments.







On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 1:02 AM, E A Faisal  wrote:
> My concern is the phrase "secure communication with the government". The MX
> record clearly shows it points to the data center in the US. From national
> security standpoint, this is very so insecure.
>
> On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah
>  wrote:
>>
>> yes, i believe the article has highlighted a very important opportunity
>> moving forward - the implementation of cyber id authentication for malaysia.
>>
>> imagine the potential - register once and use the id to access all the
>> participating govt agencies (no need to register).
>>
>> example : dbkl / tnb / ptptn send me my bill / statement through the
>> email. in the statement there is a button Bayar, and when i click on it, my
>> browser displays the login page for the agency, i login with myemail.my id
>> and password, then can pay for the bill.
>>
>> that will save me and the agencies a whole lot of hassle just to ma

Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

[Garfield WTF]

As long as our bandwidth price still expensive like this, it is very hard
for us ti have a nice DC.
We won't be able to have a nice Cloud if all servers only have 1mbps speed.

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[Harisfazillah Jamel]

Thinking of its, its possible to make data in MY by cloud computing.
Private cloud still need infra.

Imaging thousand of government servers in the cloud.

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
 wrote:
> MAMPU was so adamant that Gomen data must reside in MY. Now they are all
> just quiet coz the PM has already announced this initiative.
>
> Morons!
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 1:02 AM, E A Faisal  wrote:
>>
>> My concern is the phrase "secure communication with the government". The
>> MX record clearly shows it points to the data center in the US. From
>> national security standpoint, this is very so insecure.
>>

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[Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte]

MAMPU was so adamant that Gomen data must reside in MY. Now they are all
just quiet coz the PM has already announced this initiative.

Morons!

Eric


On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 1:02 AM, E A Faisal  wrote:

> My concern is the phrase "secure communication with the government". The MX
> record clearly shows it points to the data center in the US. From national
> security standpoint, this is very so insecure.
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah <
> rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> yes, i believe the article has highlighted a very important opportunity
>> moving forward - the implementation of cyber id authentication for malaysia.
>>
>> imagine the potential - register once and use the id to access all the
>> participating govt agencies (no need to register).
>>
>> example : dbkl / tnb / ptptn send me my bill / statement through the
>> email. in the statement there is a button Bayar, and when i click on it, my
>> browser displays the login page for the agency, i login with myemail.my id
>> and password, then can pay for the bill.
>>
>> that will save me and the agencies a whole lot of hassle just to maintain
>> usernames / accounts / passwords for the hundreds of agencies. now we will
>> have a platform to implement 'single sign-on'
>>
>> we had myeg, rileks which acted as single portal to govt agencies - but
>> this worked on a centralised portal concept. with a single sign-on, we can
>> have a distributed concept.
>>
>> so now the opportunity are for
>>
>>1. web developers among us, to figure out how to make our portals /
>>web apps to work with this myemail id.
>>2. os developers among us, to figure out how to make windows live id
>>to work on non-windows client machines
>>
>> see example for drupal : http://drupal.org/project/winliveid
>>
>> this single sign-on would be great for one of my past clients, where we
>> had to request guests to register, then someone in the agency to check that
>> the information is valid before approving the registration, then we also had
>> to have features like recalling lost password / etc.
>>
>> with myemail.my, we could just ask them to logon using their current id,
>> and we could have that automatically authenticated. no need to re-register
>> and try to remember the password for so many websites.
>>
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[E A Faisal]

My concern is the phrase "secure communication with the government". The MX
record clearly shows it points to the data center in the US. From national
security standpoint, this is very so insecure.

On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah <
rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote:

> yes, i believe the article has highlighted a very important opportunity
> moving forward - the implementation of cyber id authentication for malaysia.
>
> imagine the potential - register once and use the id to access all the
> participating govt agencies (no need to register).
>
> example : dbkl / tnb / ptptn send me my bill / statement through the email.
> in the statement there is a button Bayar, and when i click on it, my browser
> displays the login page for the agency, i login with myemail.my id and
> password, then can pay for the bill.
>
> that will save me and the agencies a whole lot of hassle just to maintain
> usernames / accounts / passwords for the hundreds of agencies. now we will
> have a platform to implement 'single sign-on'
>
> we had myeg, rileks which acted as single portal to govt agencies - but
> this worked on a centralised portal concept. with a single sign-on, we can
> have a distributed concept.
>
> so now the opportunity are for
>
>1. web developers among us, to figure out how to make our portals / web
>apps to work with this myemail id.
>2. os developers among us, to figure out how to make windows live id to
>work on non-windows client machines
>
> see example for drupal : http://drupal.org/project/winliveid
>
> this single sign-on would be great for one of my past clients, where we had
> to request guests to register, then someone in the agency to check that the
> information is valid before approving the registration, then we also had to
> have features like recalling lost password / etc.
>
> with myemail.my, we could just ask them to logon using their current id,
> and we could have that automatically authenticated. no need to re-register
> and try to remember the password for so many websites.
>
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[Raja Iskandar Shah]

yes, i believe the article has highlighted a very important opportunity
moving forward - the implementation of cyber id authentication for malaysia.

imagine the potential - register once and use the id to access all the
participating govt agencies (no need to register).

example : dbkl / tnb / ptptn send me my bill / statement through the email.
in the statement there is a button Bayar, and when i click on it, my browser
displays the login page for the agency, i login with myemail.my id and
password, then can pay for the bill.

that will save me and the agencies a whole lot of hassle just to maintain
usernames / accounts / passwords for the hundreds of agencies. now we will
have a platform to implement 'single sign-on'

we had myeg, rileks which acted as single portal to govt agencies - but this
worked on a centralised portal concept. with a single sign-on, we can have a
distributed concept.

so now the opportunity are for

   1. web developers among us, to figure out how to make our portals / web
   apps to work with this myemail id.
   2. os developers among us, to figure out how to make windows live id to
   work on non-windows client machines

see example for drupal : http://drupal.org/project/winliveid

this single sign-on would be great for one of my past clients, where we had
to request guests to register, then someone in the agency to check that the
information is valid before approving the registration, then we also had to
have features like recalling lost password / etc.

with myemail.my, we could just ask them to logon using their current id, and
we could have that automatically authenticated. no need to re-register and
try to remember the password for so many websites.

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Hmm.. quite some bitching going on and i hope it is not against the
gomen. :)

I hope i am wrong, but i pitched this idea 1o years ago while CTO in a
public listed concern, and i wonder if it floated to Tricubes. The idea
was since all citizens have a unique NRID number then a provider can
just tie up with the NR Dept to be the guaranteed email repository for
all NRIDs. All the citizens will have that NRID no as email username,
whether they want to or not, its their choice, but the gomen can send
them email in secured fashion as NR Dept has confirmed that such NRID
belogs to so and so and only a certain provider is certified to support
it. My idea was to make this very free and its sustained through the
poor taxpayers money thru rebates if they participate also in e-polling
and e-social contributions back to the country.

Well, i guess there is always commercial entities intending to make
money instead of making the country go up. Not surprised since we now
got 'open core' players among us.

On 4/22/11 12:25 PM, Maulvi Bakar wrote:
+100
  
Income Tax e-filing, expandable functionality.
  
  Singapore's e-Citizen http://www.ecitizen.gov.sg/
  
  
Same concept.  Different country.
  
myemail.my ?!?  Windows Live?!?!  
  
WTF!?!
  
  
  
  On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Mohd Kamal
Bin Mustafa  wrote:
  On
Fri,
Apr 22, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Mohamad Imran 
wrote:

> GMail percuma je.

Do you want to receive your official and maybe sometime confidential
letter on your gmail account, unencrypted ? Me not and not through
myemail.my. I'd rather have it in my mailbox, the one at the side of
my gate. It's not about being free but what's the money worth, in this
case RM50mil. Like ihsan said somewhere in this thread, if we really
want to do it paperless, take the eFiling style approach. Centralized
web apps, access through ssl. At least the data stay there, not
travelling over public network, Easy for everyone, no digital cert
fuss, more secure (hopefully). Combined it with single authentication
to all goverment's website.
  
  

 





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[aziman noor]

Katakan rakyat Malaysia yang berumur 18 tahun keatas dan telah bekerja
adalah 18 juta. Kalau LHDN nak hantar Borang Taksiran/EA form ataupun gentle
reminder, 18 juta darab dengan 50 sen, maka jumlah RM 9 juta. Itu baru LHDN.


Jadi kalau sesiapa yang rasa proposal, cuba call Tribute.. bagi solution.

Sebab masa mesyuarat NKRA aritu, sekarang ni kerajaan tak mau dah proposal
yang dalamnya kena buat RnD dulu, kerajaan hanya mau SOLUTION, yakni benda
yang dah tau jadi dan boleh pakai.

Seperti jugak LMS untuk MOE, diorang dah decide produk apa yang dipakai,
yang terbukti berjaya diEropah terutama diUK.

Thanks.

On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
wrote:

>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 22 Apr 2011, at 12:25, Maulvi Bakar  wrote:
>
> +100
>
> Income Tax e-filing, expandable functionality.
>
> Singapore's e-Citizen  
> http://www.ecitizen.gov.sg/
>
> Same concept.  Different country.
>
> myemail.my ?!?  Windows Live?!?!
>
> WTF!?!
>
>
> +1
> I see every gov agencies are building their own datacenters. So how about
> we build one for these stuff?
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Mohd Kamal Bin Mustafa <
> ka...@smach.net> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Mohamad Imran < 
>> imtym@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > GMail percuma je.
>>
>> Do you want to receive your official and maybe sometime confidential
>> letter on your gmail account, unencrypted ? Me not and not through
>> myemail.my. I'd rather have it in my mailbox, the one at the side of
>> my gate. It's not about being free but what's the money worth, in this
>> case RM50mil. Like ihsan said somewhere in this thread, if we really
>> want to do it paperless, take the eFiling style approach. Centralized
>> web apps, access through ssl. At least the data stay there, not
>> travelling over public network, Easy for everyone, no digital cert
>> fuss, more secure (hopefully). Combined it with single authentication
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Sent from my iPhone

On 22 Apr 2011, at 12:25, Maulvi Bakar  wrote:

+100

Income Tax e-filing, expandable functionality.

Singapore's e-Citizen http://www.ecitizen.gov.sg/

Same concept.  Different country.

myemail.my ?!?  Windows Live?!?!

WTF!?!


+1
I see every gov agencies are building their own datacenters. So how about we
build one for these stuff?


On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Mohd Kamal Bin Mustafa wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Mohamad Imran 
> wrote:
>
> > GMail percuma je.
>
> Do you want to receive your official and maybe sometime confidential
> letter on your gmail account, unencrypted ? Me not and not through
> myemail.my. I'd rather have it in my mailbox, the one at the side of
> my gate. It's not about being free but what's the money worth, in this
> case RM50mil. Like ihsan said somewhere in this thread, if we really
> want to do it paperless, take the eFiling style approach. Centralized
> web apps, access through ssl. At least the data stay there, not
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+100

Income Tax e-filing, expandable functionality.

Singapore's e-Citizen http://www.ecitizen.gov.sg/

Same concept.  Different country.

myemail.my ?!?  Windows Live?!?!

WTF!?!



On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Mohd Kamal Bin Mustafa wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Mohamad Imran 
> wrote:
>
> > GMail percuma je.
>
> Do you want to receive your official and maybe sometime confidential
> letter on your gmail account, unencrypted ? Me not and not through
> myemail.my. I'd rather have it in my mailbox, the one at the side of
> my gate. It's not about being free but what's the money worth, in this
> case RM50mil. Like ihsan said somewhere in this thread, if we really
> want to do it paperless, take the eFiling style approach. Centralized
> web apps, access through ssl. At least the data stay there, not
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Sent from my iPhone

On 22 Apr 2011, at 12:19, Mohd Kamal Bin Mustafa  wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Mohamad Imran  wrote:
>
>> GMail percuma je.
>
> Do you want to receive your official and maybe sometime confidential
> letter on your gmail account, unencrypted ? Me not and not through
> myemail.my. I'd rather have it in my mailbox, the one at the side of
> my gate. It's not about being free but what's the money worth, in this
> case RM50mil. Like ihsan said somewhere in this thread, if we really
> want to do it paperless, take the eFiling style approach. Centralized
> web apps, access through ssl. At least the data stay there, not
> travelling over public network, Easy for everyone, no digital cert
> fuss, more secure (hopefully). Combined it with single authentication
> to all goverment's website.
>
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On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Mohamad Imran  wrote:

> GMail percuma je.

Do you want to receive your official and maybe sometime confidential
letter on your gmail account, unencrypted ? Me not and not through
myemail.my. I'd rather have it in my mailbox, the one at the side of
my gate. It's not about being free but what's the money worth, in this
case RM50mil. Like ihsan said somewhere in this thread, if we really
want to do it paperless, take the eFiling style approach. Centralized
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[Mohamad Imran]

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/pemandu-government-agencies-to-pay-for-1-malaysia-email-database/


Fadhlullah Suhaimi said he expected agencies to pay Tricubes about 50 sen
> per e-mail, cheaper than the RM1.00 printing, stationery, postage and
> dispatch cost of sending a regular letter.


GMail percuma je.

2011/4/22 Garfield WTF 

> @Ihsan,
> check this out.
>
> ---
> Trying "myemail.my"
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 29191
> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 7, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
>
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;myemail.my.INANY
>
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> myemail.my.28800INSOAns1.dnsexit.com.
> admin.netdorm.com. 260701 14400 2400 604800 1200
> myemail.my.28800INNSns1.dnsexit.com. <-- *dnsexit.comFree 
> DNS Service
> *(free stuff)
> myemail.my.28800INNSns2.dnsexit.com. <-- *dnsexit.comFree 
> DNS Service
> *(free stuff)
> myemail.my.28800INNSns3.dnsexit.com. <-- *dnsexit.comFree 
> DNS Service
> *(free stuff)
> myemail.my.28800INNSns4.dnsexit.com. <-- *dnsexit.comFree 
> DNS Service
> *(free stuff)
> myemail.my.3600INMX10 1852513953.pamx1.hotmail.com.
> <-- *domains.live.com*(free stuff)
> myemail.my.3600INA202.75.43.166 <-- *Streamyx in a
> small town* *http://www.ip-adress.com/whois/202.75.43.166*
>
> ---
>
> This is how much RM50M worth in Malaysia.
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@Ihsan,
check this out.
---
Trying "myemail.my"
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 29191
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 7, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;myemail.my.INANY

;; ANSWER SECTION:
myemail.my.28800INSOAns1.dnsexit.com. admin.netdorm.com.
260701 14400 2400 604800 1200
myemail.my.28800INNSns1.dnsexit.com. <--
*dnsexit.comFree DNS Service
*(free stuff)
myemail.my.28800INNSns2.dnsexit.com. <--
*dnsexit.comFree DNS Service
*(free stuff)
myemail.my.28800INNSns3.dnsexit.com. <--
*dnsexit.comFree DNS Service
*(free stuff)
myemail.my.28800INNSns4.dnsexit.com. <--
*dnsexit.comFree DNS Service
*(free stuff)
myemail.my.3600INMX10 1852513953.pamx1.hotmail.com. <--
*domains.live.com*(free stuff)
myemail.my.3600INA202.75.43.166 <-- *Streamyx in a small
town* *http://www.ip-adress.com/whois/202.75.43.166*
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On 4/21/11 10:11 PM, Garfield WTF wrote:
>From what I heard, the whole myemail.my email platform is actually 
just point the MX record to the domains.live.com 
.


And they just develop the interface and connect to the 
domains.live.com  API, and just hosting their 
own made web UI for us to check email.


In order word, we can just use our myemail.my account and login in 
live.com , without the need of the GUI Tricube is 
hosting.


By the way, you may download the SDK, as long as you have account at 
the domains.live.com .


50 million for that... haih...


I think its definitely more than that. They probably will setup mail 
server farms in Malaysia (MS Exchange?) and create jobs etc.

The current web ui is just "parking".

Reasons of use or justification aside...ironically, the only locally 
developed mailserver (MailNow!) (not open source-repackaged)  wasn't 
even invited.



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[Ihsan Junaidi Ibrahim]

On Apr 21, 2011, at 10:11 PM, Garfield WTF wrote:

> From what I heard, the whole myemail.my email platform is actually just point 
> the MX record to the domains.live.com.
> 
> And they just develop the interface and connect to the domains.live.com API, 
> and just hosting their own made web UI for us to check email. 
> 
> In order word, we can just use our myemail.my account and login in live.com, 
> without the need of the GUI Tricube is hosting.
> 
> By the way, you may download the SDK, as long as you have account at the 
> domains.live.com.
> 
> 50 million for that... haih...

Hi,

On the surface, of course it looks simple.

But designing a system that can scale to millions of users cost money, a lot of 
them. It's getting to that point where scaling/cost ratio literally plateaus 
that makes the upfront seems so undesirable.

I think that using Microsoft's cloud infrastructure cuts down the know how of 
building a scalable system. Not by much but will make sense financially.

We all can argue till the cows come home on the validity of an OSS-based 
solution but in Malaysia at least, aside from Skali, who else have the will and 
the financial wherewithal to make this sort of infrastructure possible for the 
critical mass?

Let's not kid ourselves, building a high-scale infrastructure costs money. RM 
50 million over a 10-year period (as per Tricubes CEO statement) is actually 
quite reasonable CAPEX/OPEX assuming that's what he meant.

Having stated the above, I still believe that as citizen, this project is as 
bullshit a proposal as one can get.

Remember when LHDN requires a digicert key to conduct E-Filing back in the 
days? Eventually it costs so much hassle for everyone, they scrapped it and 
just use plain SSL key exchange.

Now an e-mail system that actually requires the same thing? Makes sense if 
you're in a controlled environment such as a company. But for the masses? 

Well, goes to say that idiots never learn.

But as I said earlier, you get to make money by prolonging the problem mah!

Happy ending for some. That's all that matters when all is said and done.

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> sabar itu separuh daripada iman
>
>
> 2011/4/21 Garfield WTF 
>
>> From what I heard, the whole myemail.my email platform is actually just
>> point the MX record to the domains.live.com.
>>
>> And they just develop the interface and connect to the domains.live.comAPI, 
>> and just hosting their own made web UI for us to check email.
>>
>> In order word, we can just use our myemail.my account and login in
>> live.com, without the need of the GUI Tricube is hosting.
>>
>> By the way, you may download the SDK, as long as you have account at the
>> domains.live.com.
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>> 50 million for that... haih...
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+100
stuju

2011/4/21 sallehy 

> Dalam isu ketidakbetulan penggunaan dana rakyat, perlu ada teguran pada
> hemat saya.
> Tidak boleh dibiarkan. Rakyat ada yang hidupnya susah, ada yang senang.
> Perlu teliti.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Soire Meira  wrote:
>
>> Amin Assobarul minal iman!
>>
>>
>> 2011/4/21 riZer Enterprise 
>>
>>> sabar itu separuh daripada iman
>>>
>>>
>>> 2011/4/21 Garfield WTF 
>>>
 From what I heard, the whole myemail.my email platform is actually just
 point the MX record to the domains.live.com.

 And they just develop the interface and connect to the 
 domains.live.comAPI, and just hosting their own made web UI for us to 
 check email.

 In order word, we can just use our myemail.my account and login in
 live.com, without the need of the GUI Tricube is hosting.

 By the way, you may download the SDK, as long as you have account at the
 domains.live.com.

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[sallehy]

Dalam isu ketidakbetulan penggunaan dana rakyat, perlu ada teguran pada
hemat saya.
Tidak boleh dibiarkan. Rakyat ada yang hidupnya susah, ada yang senang.
Perlu teliti.

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Soire Meira  wrote:

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>
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>>
>>
>> 2011/4/21 Garfield WTF 
>>
>>> From what I heard, the whole myemail.my email platform is actually just
>>> point the MX record to the domains.live.com.
>>>
>>> And they just develop the interface and connect to the domains.live.comAPI, 
>>> and just hosting their own made web UI for us to check email.
>>>
>>> In order word, we can just use our myemail.my account and login in
>>> live.com, without the need of the GUI Tricube is hosting.
>>>
>>> By the way, you may download the SDK, as long as you have account at the
>>> domains.live.com.
>>>
>>> 50 million for that... haih...
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Amin Assobarul minal iman!

2011/4/21 riZer Enterprise 

> sabar itu separuh daripada iman
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> 2011/4/21 Garfield WTF 
>
>> From what I heard, the whole myemail.my email platform is actually just
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>> and just hosting their own made web UI for us to check email.
>>
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>> live.com, without the need of the GUI Tricube is hosting.
>>
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>> domains.live.com.
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>> 50 million for that... haih...
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sabar itu separuh daripada iman

2011/4/21 Garfield WTF 

> From what I heard, the whole myemail.my email platform is actually just
> point the MX record to the domains.live.com.
>
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>
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> live.com, without the need of the GUI Tricube is hosting.
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> domains.live.com.
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>From what I heard, the whole myemail.my email platform is actually just
point the MX record to the domains.live.com.

And they just develop the interface and connect to the domains.live.com API,
and just hosting their own made web UI for us to check email.

In order word, we can just use our myemail.my account and login in live.com,
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domains.live.com.

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Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

[Muhammad Syafiq]

Just want to share. Ex-Tricubes Berhad posting at his blog.


Here the post! 


: )

محمد شافق بن مذلي
Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli
http://syafiq.me
67C2 1C07 FDEC 09ED DE58
1ED8 FF26 6105 142D CBE2



On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte <
msiantuxlo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> No he is worng.
>
> I was part of a bid based on Novell's technology.
>
> The assumption was made; do I smell a vested interest somewhere?
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Boh Yap  wrote:
>
>> hi all,
>>
>> Well, Fazli brought up a good point, maybe, becase no one else
>> proposed such a solution, and TriCubes did, therefore they got it.
>> (I'll come back to this point.. in another mail) but duhh!, is it that
>> easy? Then I've got 1/2 dozen proposals for 50m each, who do I submit
>> them to?
>>
>> Whatever is said, yes tricubes may foot the initial development costs,
>> but if the gov is using it and paying for it, then tax-payers money is
>> involved. If that is the case, was due-deligence done? How?
>>
>> Here, <
>> http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/4/20/nation/20110420155327&sec=nation#13033084438331&if_height=583
>> >
>>
>> it says
>>
>>"Proposals submitted are assessed by Entry Point Project (EPP)
>> teams,
>> to ensure only sustainable and implementable business models, are
>> supported. In this case, the team for the e-government EPP comprised
>> MAMPU and GITN Sdn Bhd. Every proposal is assessed on similar
>> criteria."
>>
>> hmm... they must be technically competent.
>>
>> The justification it seems:
>>
>>"Currently, most Malaysians use non-secured public e-mail e.g.
>> yahoo,
>> hotmail, gmail (hosted overseas) in their communications with the
>> government."
>>
>> Well, there's this little piece of FLOSS called PGP (Pretty Good
>> Privacy). And developing a plugin that works with PGP for a mail-agent
>> like thunderbird or web-mail would have been much easier. Also I
>> believe MiMOS has this thing called DigiCert, they are a Certificate
>> Authority, yes?
>>
>> But without discussing the technical issues(? we are geeks right?),
>> the concept of email is so yesterday. If you want to foster better
>> relationship between gov and the rakyat, and foster community, a much
>> better type of solution would be a 'FaceBook' with Twitter clone! And
>> things like Diaspora, Wave in a Box (formerly GoogleWave) are FLOSS
>> tools that are available.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> It would be an interesting collaborative exercise:
>>
>> Work out a simple Specifications and Costing for such a project as
>> mentioned in th article, using resources that we have within OSDC.
>> Show how we can actually deliver this using FLOSS tools and at a
>> fraction of the cost. Perhaps even more appealing would be to derive a
>> methodology for doing such that it involves more people, perhaps using
>> interns/trainees from institute of higher learning, in the project.
>> That way, there is a wider transfer of technology (to more people) and
>> also to grow the community. Use the project to develop skills and
>> expertise, it could be part of soembody's MS/PhD thesis etc...
>>
>> In this case the means is as important as the end. The end is of
>> course to deliver the stated objects, but with FLOSS, and the means is
>> to build skills and a sustainable ecosystem. This ecossytem can then
>> grow to become an industry, and I'm sure its returns will be much
>> larger than the 150m?? return quoted by TriCubes.
>>
>> Four of the EPPs are under the Oil, Gas and Energy NKEA, three under
>> Business Services, three under Greater Kuala Lumpur, two under
>> Healthcare, two under Tourism, and one each under Education,
>> Agriculture, Wholesale and Retail, Communications Content and
>> Infrastructure, and Electrical and Electronics.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran
>>  wrote:
>> > I love malaysia. :)
>> >
>> > Many news and many people have their own way to thinking and give
>> various
>> > feedback. Many people still confuse what ETP for. Please read what ETP
>> for.
>> > I not worried about this 50m project because it not from our gov public
>> fund
>> > but it from private fund. This project was propose by tricubes to gov to
>> > make 1malaysia email. Because we not propose anything to our gov, our
>> > community just love to voice, blame, flame war and talk and talk and
>> give
>> > good idea and many suggestion but who want to execute and implement it?
>> Who?
>> >
>> > Don't blame tricubes because they get endorse by our gov about the
>> project
>> > but blame our self why until now we not yet publish or do something and
>> > propose to our gov that we can do also same like tricubes do.
>> >
>> > What we must do now is proposal and paperwork and sent to our gov. We
>> have
>> > many agency that we can propose like mimos, tpm, mdec, mampu, mcmc,
>> intan,
>> > unik, miti, smidec, smecorp, terajun, pemandu and others.
>> >
>> > If we want beat tricubes we n

Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

[Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte]

No he is worng.

I was part of a bid based on Novell's technology.

The assumption was made; do I smell a vested interest somewhere?

Eric

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Boh Yap  wrote:

> hi all,
>
> Well, Fazli brought up a good point, maybe, becase no one else
> proposed such a solution, and TriCubes did, therefore they got it.
> (I'll come back to this point.. in another mail) but duhh!, is it that
> easy? Then I've got 1/2 dozen proposals for 50m each, who do I submit
> them to?
>
> Whatever is said, yes tricubes may foot the initial development costs,
> but if the gov is using it and paying for it, then tax-payers money is
> involved. If that is the case, was due-deligence done? How?
>
> Here, <
> http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/4/20/nation/20110420155327&sec=nation#13033084438331&if_height=583
> >
>
> it says
>
>"Proposals submitted are assessed by Entry Point Project (EPP)
> teams,
> to ensure only sustainable and implementable business models, are
> supported. In this case, the team for the e-government EPP comprised
> MAMPU and GITN Sdn Bhd. Every proposal is assessed on similar
> criteria."
>
> hmm... they must be technically competent.
>
> The justification it seems:
>
>"Currently, most Malaysians use non-secured public e-mail e.g.
> yahoo,
> hotmail, gmail (hosted overseas) in their communications with the
> government."
>
> Well, there's this little piece of FLOSS called PGP (Pretty Good
> Privacy). And developing a plugin that works with PGP for a mail-agent
> like thunderbird or web-mail would have been much easier. Also I
> believe MiMOS has this thing called DigiCert, they are a Certificate
> Authority, yes?
>
> But without discussing the technical issues(? we are geeks right?),
> the concept of email is so yesterday. If you want to foster better
> relationship between gov and the rakyat, and foster community, a much
> better type of solution would be a 'FaceBook' with Twitter clone! And
> things like Diaspora, Wave in a Box (formerly GoogleWave) are FLOSS
> tools that are available.
>
>
>
>
> It would be an interesting collaborative exercise:
>
> Work out a simple Specifications and Costing for such a project as
> mentioned in th article, using resources that we have within OSDC.
> Show how we can actually deliver this using FLOSS tools and at a
> fraction of the cost. Perhaps even more appealing would be to derive a
> methodology for doing such that it involves more people, perhaps using
> interns/trainees from institute of higher learning, in the project.
> That way, there is a wider transfer of technology (to more people) and
> also to grow the community. Use the project to develop skills and
> expertise, it could be part of soembody's MS/PhD thesis etc...
>
> In this case the means is as important as the end. The end is of
> course to deliver the stated objects, but with FLOSS, and the means is
> to build skills and a sustainable ecosystem. This ecossytem can then
> grow to become an industry, and I'm sure its returns will be much
> larger than the 150m?? return quoted by TriCubes.
>
> Four of the EPPs are under the Oil, Gas and Energy NKEA, three under
> Business Services, three under Greater Kuala Lumpur, two under
> Healthcare, two under Tourism, and one each under Education,
> Agriculture, Wholesale and Retail, Communications Content and
> Infrastructure, and Electrical and Electronics.
>
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran
>  wrote:
> > I love malaysia. :)
> >
> > Many news and many people have their own way to thinking and give various
> > feedback. Many people still confuse what ETP for. Please read what ETP
> for.
> > I not worried about this 50m project because it not from our gov public
> fund
> > but it from private fund. This project was propose by tricubes to gov to
> > make 1malaysia email. Because we not propose anything to our gov, our
> > community just love to voice, blame, flame war and talk and talk and give
> > good idea and many suggestion but who want to execute and implement it?
> Who?
> >
> > Don't blame tricubes because they get endorse by our gov about the
> project
> > but blame our self why until now we not yet publish or do something and
> > propose to our gov that we can do also same like tricubes do.
> >
> > What we must do now is proposal and paperwork and sent to our gov. We
> have
> > many agency that we can propose like mimos, tpm, mdec, mampu, mcmc,
> intan,
> > unik, miti, smidec, smecorp, terajun, pemandu and others.
> >
> > If we want beat tricubes we need to be like them too. We have many
> various
> > level people in this group and of course many geek too and until now we
> > still not unite and still talk behind each others and curse each others.
> >
> > If we done like above and we have the right voice to consult our gov why
> > must use this and this. We done our part and then we have a right to
> blame
> > our gov heheheh. Until now we not do like that as community but many
> people

Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

[Umarzuki Mochlis]

Mungkin takde yang tau/pernah buat kot bro. Pukul gendang je kencang.

On 04/21/2011 12:46 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar wrote:


I asked on this mailing list before for ZIMBRA solution for this 
project but only 1 person come to me. So wth?? 1 foss vs 10 ms person? 
Who gonna win? I got a direct instruction from above 3 months BEFORE 
this project went to vendors. But sadly nobody come forward to work on 
this. No proposal, no job. I don't mind for not getting 50m project 
because i am not capable of doing it. Jangan cakap saja..kerja takdak..





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[Raja Iskandar Shah]

nice. never knew that. are you attending the intuit tech talk ?



On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:44 PM, AZMI salim  wrote:

> By the way Mr. Raja, NAGIOS could perform environmental monitoring too,
> with the help or hardwares of course. Surf to www.nagios.org
>
> Regards,
> AZMI Salim
>
>
> On 21 April 2011 12:29, AZMI salim  wrote:
>
>> Salam Mr. Raja,
>>
>> You don't need an IP camera and image capture thingy to harvest the data
>> from the EF2, it comes with USB cable and a software in CD to retrieve the
>> data from it. Data is saved in the device itself for six months. You just
>> have to connect the USB cable, start the software in WinMachine...   :) and
>> you can retrieve and export it to any other format such as .CSV
>>
>> http://www.efergy.com
>>
>> I bought it last year, and it affords us a GREAT purpose and significantly
>> reducing our electrical energy by making us more aware. We set it to monitor
>> at 3-seconds interval.
>>
>>
>> As for humidity and temperature sensor, a crude way would be to purchase a
>> simple weather monitor that can save the data and retrieved later.
>>
>> Regards,
>> AZMI Salim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 21 April 2011 12:15, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote:
>>
>>> azmi,
>>>
>>> yes ! we want to add devices to an analytics framework.
>>>
>>> i also want to add image recognition component and use a simple ip camera
>>> to capture an image of the electricity meters every 10 minutes, so that i
>>> can do a pattern.
>>>
>>> other devices will be temp and humidity sensors
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:06 PM, AZMI salim  wrote:
>>>
 Salam Mr. Raja Iskandar Shah,

 I personally use Energy Monitoring System from Efergy, specifically
 Efergy E2. You can track / download the usage data from the device for 
 later
 use, statistical data maybe? *hint-hint* ... hehhehe :)

 Regards,
 AZMI Salim

 On 20 April 2011 22:22, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote:

> this article includes a response from the pm and tricubes
>
> http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/4/20/nation/20110420155327&sec=nation#13033084438331&if_height=583
>
> fortunately i dont work at tricubes
>
> my sister used to work there before she quit about 5 years ago. she was
> a programmer doing the mobile smart card devices.
>
> by the way, anyone knows of any applicable technology that can be used
> for renewable energy / energy savings - i know of a glc who might be
> interested. any systems for monitoring / self-diagnosis of electricity
> consumption would be quite nice
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran <
> mfazliaz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I love malaysia. :)
>>
>> Many news and many people have their own way to thinking and give
>> various feedback. Many people still confuse what ETP for. Please read 
>> what
>> ETP for. I not worried about this 50m project because it not from our gov
>> public fund but it from private fund. This project was propose by 
>> tricubes
>> to gov to make 1malaysia email. Because we not propose anything to our 
>> gov,
>> our community just love to voice, blame, flame war and talk and talk and
>> give good idea and many suggestion but who want to execute and implement 
>> it?
>> Who?
>>
>> Don't blame tricubes because they get endorse by our gov about the
>> project but blame our self why until now we not yet publish or do 
>> something
>> and propose to our gov that we can do also same like tricubes do.
>>
>> What we must do now is proposal and paperwork and sent to our gov. We
>> have many agency that we can propose like mimos, tpm, mdec, mampu, mcmc,
>> intan, unik, miti, smidec, smecorp, terajun, pemandu and others.
>>
>> If we want beat tricubes we need to be like them too. We have many
>> various level people in this group and of course many geek too and until 
>> now
>> we still not unite and still talk behind each others and curse each 
>> others.
>>
>> If we done like above and we have the right voice to consult our gov
>> why must use this and this. We done our part and then we have a right to
>> blame our gov heheheh. Until now we not do like that as community but 
>> many
>> people done but only for individually. So we are no where because we not
>> voice as one.
>>
>> As above topic project maybe some one are behind that funded them the
>> fund 50m to make 1malaysia email become reality. I don't want to know who
>> are behind tricubes what I want to know is this 1malaysia email will be 
>> like
>> use hotmail muahahahaha.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Mohd Fazli Azran
>>
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Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

Yes, Its good attention of you but we really need a person or
organisation to lead.

My vision is to lets KOSTEM lead with the cooperation through
consortium with others OSS companies.

Its a long shoot but this need to be done. Make this proposal of
collaboration like any open source project, release its early and
release its often. So lets do the planning and lets execute it. Then
we identified any weakness and debug and patch.

My proposal is to make KOSTEM happen. They are preparing to submit the
registration. We need more people to join. Haiyooo tak sampai lagi 50.
Come on.

KOSTEM registered we need to work out MOU with others OSS companies.
KOSTEM do the project Management.

Open for feedback.

Thanks

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
 wrote:
>
> I asked on this mailing list before for ZIMBRA solution for this project but
> only 1 person come to me. So wth?? 1 foss vs 10 ms person? Who gonna win? I
> got a direct instruction from above 3 months BEFORE this project went to
> vendors. But sadly nobody come forward to work on this. No proposal, no job.
> I don't mind for not getting 50m project because i am not capable of doing
> it. Jangan cakap saja..kerja takdak..
>
> Sent from my iPhone

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[Hasanuddin Abu Bakar]

I asked on this mailing list before for ZIMBRA solution for this project but
only 1 person come to me. So wth?? 1 foss vs 10 ms person? Who gonna win? I
got a direct instruction from above 3 months BEFORE this project went to
vendors. But sadly nobody come forward to work on this. No proposal, no job.
I don't mind for not getting 50m project because i am not capable of doing
it. Jangan cakap saja..kerja takdak..


Sent from my iPhone

On 21 Apr 2011, at 12:29, AZMI salim  wrote:

Salam Mr. Raja,

You don't need an IP camera and image capture thingy to harvest the data
from the EF2, it comes with USB cable and a software in CD to retrieve the
data from it. Data is saved in the device itself for six months. You just
have to connect the USB cable, start the software in WinMachine...   :) and
you can retrieve and export it to any other format such as .CSV

http://www.efergy.com

I bought it last year, and it affords us a GREAT purpose and significantly
reducing our electrical energy by making us more aware. We set it to monitor
at 3-seconds interval.


As for humidity and temperature sensor, a crude way would be to purchase a
simple weather monitor that can save the data and retrieved later.

Regards,
AZMI Salim



On 21 April 2011 12:15, Raja Iskandar Shah  wrote:

> azmi,
>
> yes ! we want to add devices to an analytics framework.
>
> i also want to add image recognition component and use a simple ip camera
> to capture an image of the electricity meters every 10 minutes, so that i
> can do a pattern.
>
> other devices will be temp and humidity sensors
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:06 PM, AZMI salim  wrote:
>
>> Salam Mr. Raja Iskandar Shah,
>>
>> I personally use Energy Monitoring System from Efergy, specifically Efergy
>> E2. You can track / download the usage data from the device for later use,
>> statistical data maybe? *hint-hint* ... hehhehe :)
>>
>> Regards,
>> AZMI Salim
>>
>> On 20 April 2011 22:22, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote:
>>
>>> this article includes a response from the pm and tricubes
>>>
>>> http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/4/20/nation/20110420155327&sec=nation#13033084438331&if_height=583
>>>
>>> fortunately i dont work at tricubes
>>>
>>> my sister used to work there before she quit about 5 years ago. she was a
>>> programmer doing the mobile smart card devices.
>>>
>>> by the way, anyone knows of any applicable technology that can be used
>>> for renewable energy / energy savings - i know of a glc who might be
>>> interested. any systems for monitoring / self-diagnosis of electricity
>>> consumption would be quite nice
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran <
>>> mfazliaz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 I love malaysia. :)

 Many news and many people have their own way to thinking and give
 various feedback. Many people still confuse what ETP for. Please read what
 ETP for. I not worried about this 50m project because it not from our gov
 public fund but it from private fund. This project was propose by tricubes
 to gov to make 1malaysia email. Because we not propose anything to our gov,
 our community just love to voice, blame, flame war and talk and talk and
 give good idea and many suggestion but who want to execute and implement 
 it?
 Who?

 Don't blame tricubes because they get endorse by our gov about the
 project but blame our self why until now we not yet publish or do something
 and propose to our gov that we can do also same like tricubes do.

 What we must do now is proposal and paperwork and sent to our gov. We
 have many agency that we can propose like mimos, tpm, mdec, mampu, mcmc,
 intan, unik, miti, smidec, smecorp, terajun, pemandu and others.

 If we want beat tricubes we need to be like them too. We have many
 various level people in this group and of course many geek too and until 
 now
 we still not unite and still talk behind each others and curse each others.

 If we done like above and we have the right voice to consult our gov why
 must use this and this. We done our part and then we have a right to blame
 our gov heheheh. Until now we not do like that as community but many people
 done but only for individually. So we are no where because we not voice as
 one.

 As above topic project maybe some one are behind that funded them the
 fund 50m to make 1malaysia email become reality. I don't want to know who
 are behind tricubes what I want to know is this 1malaysia email will be 
 like
 use hotmail muahahahaha.

 Best Regards,
 Mohd Fazli Azran

 Sent by my BlackCerry® Smartphone Powered by Wireless DIGImon
 --
 *From: * Hanxue Lee 
 *Sender: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
 *Date: *Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:28:06 +0800
 *To: *
 *ReplyTo: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to deve

Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

[AZMI salim]

By the way Mr. Raja, NAGIOS could perform environmental monitoring too, with
the help or hardwares of course. Surf to www.nagios.org

Regards,
AZMI Salim

On 21 April 2011 12:29, AZMI salim  wrote:

> Salam Mr. Raja,
>
> You don't need an IP camera and image capture thingy to harvest the data
> from the EF2, it comes with USB cable and a software in CD to retrieve the
> data from it. Data is saved in the device itself for six months. You just
> have to connect the USB cable, start the software in WinMachine...   :) and
> you can retrieve and export it to any other format such as .CSV
>
> http://www.efergy.com
>
> I bought it last year, and it affords us a GREAT purpose and significantly
> reducing our electrical energy by making us more aware. We set it to monitor
> at 3-seconds interval.
>
>
> As for humidity and temperature sensor, a crude way would be to purchase a
> simple weather monitor that can save the data and retrieved later.
>
> Regards,
> AZMI Salim
>
>
>
>
> On 21 April 2011 12:15, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote:
>
>> azmi,
>>
>> yes ! we want to add devices to an analytics framework.
>>
>> i also want to add image recognition component and use a simple ip camera
>> to capture an image of the electricity meters every 10 minutes, so that i
>> can do a pattern.
>>
>> other devices will be temp and humidity sensors
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:06 PM, AZMI salim  wrote:
>>
>>> Salam Mr. Raja Iskandar Shah,
>>>
>>> I personally use Energy Monitoring System from Efergy, specifically
>>> Efergy E2. You can track / download the usage data from the device for later
>>> use, statistical data maybe? *hint-hint* ... hehhehe :)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> AZMI Salim
>>>
>>> On 20 April 2011 22:22, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote:
>>>
 this article includes a response from the pm and tricubes

 http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/4/20/nation/20110420155327&sec=nation#13033084438331&if_height=583

 fortunately i dont work at tricubes

 my sister used to work there before she quit about 5 years ago. she was
 a programmer doing the mobile smart card devices.

 by the way, anyone knows of any applicable technology that can be used
 for renewable energy / energy savings - i know of a glc who might be
 interested. any systems for monitoring / self-diagnosis of electricity
 consumption would be quite nice


 On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran <
 mfazliaz...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I love malaysia. :)
>
> Many news and many people have their own way to thinking and give
> various feedback. Many people still confuse what ETP for. Please read what
> ETP for. I not worried about this 50m project because it not from our gov
> public fund but it from private fund. This project was propose by tricubes
> to gov to make 1malaysia email. Because we not propose anything to our 
> gov,
> our community just love to voice, blame, flame war and talk and talk and
> give good idea and many suggestion but who want to execute and implement 
> it?
> Who?
>
> Don't blame tricubes because they get endorse by our gov about the
> project but blame our self why until now we not yet publish or do 
> something
> and propose to our gov that we can do also same like tricubes do.
>
> What we must do now is proposal and paperwork and sent to our gov. We
> have many agency that we can propose like mimos, tpm, mdec, mampu, mcmc,
> intan, unik, miti, smidec, smecorp, terajun, pemandu and others.
>
> If we want beat tricubes we need to be like them too. We have many
> various level people in this group and of course many geek too and until 
> now
> we still not unite and still talk behind each others and curse each 
> others.
>
> If we done like above and we have the right voice to consult our gov
> why must use this and this. We done our part and then we have a right to
> blame our gov heheheh. Until now we not do like that as community but many
> people done but only for individually. So we are no where because we not
> voice as one.
>
> As above topic project maybe some one are behind that funded them the
> fund 50m to make 1malaysia email become reality. I don't want to know who
> are behind tricubes what I want to know is this 1malaysia email will be 
> like
> use hotmail muahahahaha.
>
> Best Regards,
> Mohd Fazli Azran
>
> Sent by my BlackCerry® Smartphone Powered by Wireless DIGImon
> --
> *From: * Hanxue Lee 
> *Sender: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
> *Date: *Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:28:06 +0800
> *To: *
> *ReplyTo: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia
> Secure Email Server
>
> Its a waste of taxpayer money. I do not see a need to develop a service
> (em

Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

[AZMI salim]

Salam Mr. Raja,

You don't need an IP camera and image capture thingy to harvest the data
from the EF2, it comes with USB cable and a software in CD to retrieve the
data from it. Data is saved in the device itself for six months. You just
have to connect the USB cable, start the software in WinMachine...   :) and
you can retrieve and export it to any other format such as .CSV

http://www.efergy.com

I bought it last year, and it affords us a GREAT purpose and significantly
reducing our electrical energy by making us more aware. We set it to monitor
at 3-seconds interval.


As for humidity and temperature sensor, a crude way would be to purchase a
simple weather monitor that can save the data and retrieved later.

Regards,
AZMI Salim



On 21 April 2011 12:15, Raja Iskandar Shah  wrote:

> azmi,
>
> yes ! we want to add devices to an analytics framework.
>
> i also want to add image recognition component and use a simple ip camera
> to capture an image of the electricity meters every 10 minutes, so that i
> can do a pattern.
>
> other devices will be temp and humidity sensors
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:06 PM, AZMI salim  wrote:
>
>> Salam Mr. Raja Iskandar Shah,
>>
>> I personally use Energy Monitoring System from Efergy, specifically Efergy
>> E2. You can track / download the usage data from the device for later use,
>> statistical data maybe? *hint-hint* ... hehhehe :)
>>
>> Regards,
>> AZMI Salim
>>
>> On 20 April 2011 22:22, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote:
>>
>>> this article includes a response from the pm and tricubes
>>>
>>> http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/4/20/nation/20110420155327&sec=nation#13033084438331&if_height=583
>>>
>>> fortunately i dont work at tricubes
>>>
>>> my sister used to work there before she quit about 5 years ago. she was a
>>> programmer doing the mobile smart card devices.
>>>
>>> by the way, anyone knows of any applicable technology that can be used
>>> for renewable energy / energy savings - i know of a glc who might be
>>> interested. any systems for monitoring / self-diagnosis of electricity
>>> consumption would be quite nice
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran <
>>> mfazliaz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 I love malaysia. :)

 Many news and many people have their own way to thinking and give
 various feedback. Many people still confuse what ETP for. Please read what
 ETP for. I not worried about this 50m project because it not from our gov
 public fund but it from private fund. This project was propose by tricubes
 to gov to make 1malaysia email. Because we not propose anything to our gov,
 our community just love to voice, blame, flame war and talk and talk and
 give good idea and many suggestion but who want to execute and implement 
 it?
 Who?

 Don't blame tricubes because they get endorse by our gov about the
 project but blame our self why until now we not yet publish or do something
 and propose to our gov that we can do also same like tricubes do.

 What we must do now is proposal and paperwork and sent to our gov. We
 have many agency that we can propose like mimos, tpm, mdec, mampu, mcmc,
 intan, unik, miti, smidec, smecorp, terajun, pemandu and others.

 If we want beat tricubes we need to be like them too. We have many
 various level people in this group and of course many geek too and until 
 now
 we still not unite and still talk behind each others and curse each others.

 If we done like above and we have the right voice to consult our gov why
 must use this and this. We done our part and then we have a right to blame
 our gov heheheh. Until now we not do like that as community but many people
 done but only for individually. So we are no where because we not voice as
 one.

 As above topic project maybe some one are behind that funded them the
 fund 50m to make 1malaysia email become reality. I don't want to know who
 are behind tricubes what I want to know is this 1malaysia email will be 
 like
 use hotmail muahahahaha.

 Best Regards,
 Mohd Fazli Azran

 Sent by my BlackCerry® Smartphone Powered by Wireless DIGImon
 --
 *From: * Hanxue Lee 
 *Sender: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
 *Date: *Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:28:06 +0800
 *To: *
 *ReplyTo: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia
 Secure Email Server

 Its a waste of taxpayer money. I do not see a need to develop a service
 (email) which is already well established in the private sector.

 The article did say

 "Najib disclosed today the email account will allow direct and secure
 communication between the public and the government, and is part of a new
 one-stop web portal for government services."

 To give the benefit of doubt, perhaps its a

Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

azmi,

yes ! we want to add devices to an analytics framework.

i also want to add image recognition component and use a simple ip camera to
capture an image of the electricity meters every 10 minutes, so that i can
do a pattern.

other devices will be temp and humidity sensors


On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:06 PM, AZMI salim  wrote:

> Salam Mr. Raja Iskandar Shah,
>
> I personally use Energy Monitoring System from Efergy, specifically Efergy
> E2. You can track / download the usage data from the device for later use,
> statistical data maybe? *hint-hint* ... hehhehe :)
>
> Regards,
> AZMI Salim
>
> On 20 April 2011 22:22, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote:
>
>> this article includes a response from the pm and tricubes
>>
>> http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/4/20/nation/20110420155327&sec=nation#13033084438331&if_height=583
>>
>> fortunately i dont work at tricubes
>>
>> my sister used to work there before she quit about 5 years ago. she was a
>> programmer doing the mobile smart card devices.
>>
>> by the way, anyone knows of any applicable technology that can be used for
>> renewable energy / energy savings - i know of a glc who might be interested.
>> any systems for monitoring / self-diagnosis of electricity consumption would
>> be quite nice
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran > > wrote:
>>
>>> I love malaysia. :)
>>>
>>> Many news and many people have their own way to thinking and give various
>>> feedback. Many people still confuse what ETP for. Please read what ETP for.
>>> I not worried about this 50m project because it not from our gov public fund
>>> but it from private fund. This project was propose by tricubes to gov to
>>> make 1malaysia email. Because we not propose anything to our gov, our
>>> community just love to voice, blame, flame war and talk and talk and give
>>> good idea and many suggestion but who want to execute and implement it? Who?
>>>
>>> Don't blame tricubes because they get endorse by our gov about the
>>> project but blame our self why until now we not yet publish or do something
>>> and propose to our gov that we can do also same like tricubes do.
>>>
>>> What we must do now is proposal and paperwork and sent to our gov. We
>>> have many agency that we can propose like mimos, tpm, mdec, mampu, mcmc,
>>> intan, unik, miti, smidec, smecorp, terajun, pemandu and others.
>>>
>>> If we want beat tricubes we need to be like them too. We have many
>>> various level people in this group and of course many geek too and until now
>>> we still not unite and still talk behind each others and curse each others.
>>>
>>> If we done like above and we have the right voice to consult our gov why
>>> must use this and this. We done our part and then we have a right to blame
>>> our gov heheheh. Until now we not do like that as community but many people
>>> done but only for individually. So we are no where because we not voice as
>>> one.
>>>
>>> As above topic project maybe some one are behind that funded them the
>>> fund 50m to make 1malaysia email become reality. I don't want to know who
>>> are behind tricubes what I want to know is this 1malaysia email will be like
>>> use hotmail muahahahaha.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Mohd Fazli Azran
>>>
>>> Sent by my BlackCerry® Smartphone Powered by Wireless DIGImon
>>> --
>>> *From: * Hanxue Lee 
>>> *Sender: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
>>> *Date: *Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:28:06 +0800
>>> *To: *
>>> *ReplyTo: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject: *Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia
>>> Secure Email Server
>>>
>>> Its a waste of taxpayer money. I do not see a need to develop a service
>>> (email) which is already well established in the private sector.
>>>
>>> The article did say
>>>
>>> "Najib disclosed today the email account will allow direct and secure
>>> communication between the public and the government, and is part of a new
>>> one-stop web portal for government services."
>>>
>>> To give the benefit of doubt, perhaps its an initiative to have a
>>> one-stop solution for Malaysian citizens to interact with its government,
>>> similar to Singapore's e-Citizen http://www.ecitizen.gov.sg/ ?
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Hanxue
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:01 PM, darXness darXness 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 phew...50m

 even we have paperwork,proposal,manpower and all things,will they
 trust us?that job already taken by tricubes.and i cant thing one way
 to prevent this.we already have OSDC,but even OSDC is under gov sector
 (sorry if i mistake about this),already deploy so much FLOSS server
 inside gov sector,n they look like we doesnt exist.

 maybe someone should poke "him".

 if i got that job,50m.i will_.:D

 On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Boh Yap  wrote:
 > hi, all you FLOSS guys out there,
 >
 >
 http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/1-malaysia-email-

Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

[AZMI salim]

Salam Mr. Raja Iskandar Shah,

I personally use Energy Monitoring System from Efergy, specifically Efergy
E2. You can track / download the usage data from the device for later use,
statistical data maybe? *hint-hint* ... hehhehe :)

Regards,
AZMI Salim

On 20 April 2011 22:22, Raja Iskandar Shah  wrote:

> this article includes a response from the pm and tricubes
>
> http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/4/20/nation/20110420155327&sec=nation#13033084438331&if_height=583
>
> fortunately i dont work at tricubes
>
> my sister used to work there before she quit about 5 years ago. she was a
> programmer doing the mobile smart card devices.
>
> by the way, anyone knows of any applicable technology that can be used for
> renewable energy / energy savings - i know of a glc who might be interested.
> any systems for monitoring / self-diagnosis of electricity consumption would
> be quite nice
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran 
> wrote:
>
>> I love malaysia. :)
>>
>> Many news and many people have their own way to thinking and give various
>> feedback. Many people still confuse what ETP for. Please read what ETP for.
>> I not worried about this 50m project because it not from our gov public fund
>> but it from private fund. This project was propose by tricubes to gov to
>> make 1malaysia email. Because we not propose anything to our gov, our
>> community just love to voice, blame, flame war and talk and talk and give
>> good idea and many suggestion but who want to execute and implement it? Who?
>>
>> Don't blame tricubes because they get endorse by our gov about the project
>> but blame our self why until now we not yet publish or do something and
>> propose to our gov that we can do also same like tricubes do.
>>
>> What we must do now is proposal and paperwork and sent to our gov. We have
>> many agency that we can propose like mimos, tpm, mdec, mampu, mcmc, intan,
>> unik, miti, smidec, smecorp, terajun, pemandu and others.
>>
>> If we want beat tricubes we need to be like them too. We have many various
>> level people in this group and of course many geek too and until now we
>> still not unite and still talk behind each others and curse each others.
>>
>> If we done like above and we have the right voice to consult our gov why
>> must use this and this. We done our part and then we have a right to blame
>> our gov heheheh. Until now we not do like that as community but many people
>> done but only for individually. So we are no where because we not voice as
>> one.
>>
>> As above topic project maybe some one are behind that funded them the fund
>> 50m to make 1malaysia email become reality. I don't want to know who are
>> behind tricubes what I want to know is this 1malaysia email will be like use
>> hotmail muahahahaha.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Mohd Fazli Azran
>>
>> Sent by my BlackCerry® Smartphone Powered by Wireless DIGImon
>> --
>> *From: * Hanxue Lee 
>> *Sender: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
>> *Date: *Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:28:06 +0800
>> *To: *
>> *ReplyTo: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject: *Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia
>> Secure Email Server
>>
>> Its a waste of taxpayer money. I do not see a need to develop a service
>> (email) which is already well established in the private sector.
>>
>> The article did say
>>
>> "Najib disclosed today the email account will allow direct and secure
>> communication between the public and the government, and is part of a new
>> one-stop web portal for government services."
>>
>> To give the benefit of doubt, perhaps its an initiative to have a one-stop
>> solution for Malaysian citizens to interact with its government, similar to
>> Singapore's e-Citizen http://www.ecitizen.gov.sg/ ?
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Hanxue
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:01 PM, darXness darXness wrote:
>>
>>> phew...50m
>>>
>>> even we have paperwork,proposal,manpower and all things,will they
>>> trust us?that job already taken by tricubes.and i cant thing one way
>>> to prevent this.we already have OSDC,but even OSDC is under gov sector
>>> (sorry if i mistake about this),already deploy so much FLOSS server
>>> inside gov sector,n they look like we doesnt exist.
>>>
>>> maybe someone should poke "him".
>>>
>>> if i got that job,50m.i will_.:D
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Boh Yap  wrote:
>>> > hi, all you FLOSS guys out there,
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/1-malaysia-email-provider-tricubes-at-risk-of-delisting/
>>> >
>>> > the above article "Tricubes Bhd’s RM50 million contract to develop the
>>> > 1 Malaysia email service could be the financial lifeline of the
>>> > information technology firm which is at risk of being delisted..."
>>> >
>>> > The 1 Malaysia Mail Server is meant to provide secure email services
>>> > to Malaysians for their dealings with the government, and to counter
>>> > the fact that a lot of the free

Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

[E A Faisal]

with RM50 mil, Tricube can be "saved" from delisting from Bursa Malaysia.
ooopss, is this confidential information?

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Boh Yap  wrote:

> hi all,
>
> Well, Fazli brought up a good point, maybe, becase no one else
> proposed such a solution, and TriCubes did, therefore they got it.
> (I'll come back to this point.. in another mail) but duhh!, is it that
> easy? Then I've got 1/2 dozen proposals for 50m each, who do I submit
> them to?
>
> Whatever is said, yes tricubes may foot the initial development costs,
> but if the gov is using it and paying for it, then tax-payers money is
> involved. If that is the case, was due-deligence done? How?
>
> Here, <
> http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/4/20/nation/20110420155327&sec=nation#13033084438331&if_height=583
> >
>
> it says
>
>"Proposals submitted are assessed by Entry Point Project (EPP)
> teams,
> to ensure only sustainable and implementable business models, are
> supported. In this case, the team for the e-government EPP comprised
> MAMPU and GITN Sdn Bhd. Every proposal is assessed on similar
> criteria."
>
> hmm... they must be technically competent.
>
> The justification it seems:
>
>"Currently, most Malaysians use non-secured public e-mail e.g.
> yahoo,
> hotmail, gmail (hosted overseas) in their communications with the
> government."
>
> Well, there's this little piece of FLOSS called PGP (Pretty Good
> Privacy). And developing a plugin that works with PGP for a mail-agent
> like thunderbird or web-mail would have been much easier. Also I
> believe MiMOS has this thing called DigiCert, they are a Certificate
> Authority, yes?
>
> But without discussing the technical issues(? we are geeks right?),
> the concept of email is so yesterday. If you want to foster better
> relationship between gov and the rakyat, and foster community, a much
> better type of solution would be a 'FaceBook' with Twitter clone! And
> things like Diaspora, Wave in a Box (formerly GoogleWave) are FLOSS
> tools that are available.
>
>
>
>
> It would be an interesting collaborative exercise:
>
> Work out a simple Specifications and Costing for such a project as
> mentioned in th article, using resources that we have within OSDC.
> Show how we can actually deliver this using FLOSS tools and at a
> fraction of the cost. Perhaps even more appealing would be to derive a
> methodology for doing such that it involves more people, perhaps using
> interns/trainees from institute of higher learning, in the project.
> That way, there is a wider transfer of technology (to more people) and
> also to grow the community. Use the project to develop skills and
> expertise, it could be part of soembody's MS/PhD thesis etc...
>
> In this case the means is as important as the end. The end is of
> course to deliver the stated objects, but with FLOSS, and the means is
> to build skills and a sustainable ecosystem. This ecossytem can then
> grow to become an industry, and I'm sure its returns will be much
> larger than the 150m?? return quoted by TriCubes.
>
> Four of the EPPs are under the Oil, Gas and Energy NKEA, three under
> Business Services, three under Greater Kuala Lumpur, two under
> Healthcare, two under Tourism, and one each under Education,
> Agriculture, Wholesale and Retail, Communications Content and
> Infrastructure, and Electrical and Electronics.
>
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran
>  wrote:
> > I love malaysia. :)
> >
> > Many news and many people have their own way to thinking and give various
> > feedback. Many people still confuse what ETP for. Please read what ETP
> for.
> > I not worried about this 50m project because it not from our gov public
> fund
> > but it from private fund. This project was propose by tricubes to gov to
> > make 1malaysia email. Because we not propose anything to our gov, our
> > community just love to voice, blame, flame war and talk and talk and give
> > good idea and many suggestion but who want to execute and implement it?
> Who?
> >
> > Don't blame tricubes because they get endorse by our gov about the
> project
> > but blame our self why until now we not yet publish or do something and
> > propose to our gov that we can do also same like tricubes do.
> >
> > What we must do now is proposal and paperwork and sent to our gov. We
> have
> > many agency that we can propose like mimos, tpm, mdec, mampu, mcmc,
> intan,
> > unik, miti, smidec, smecorp, terajun, pemandu and others.
> >
> > If we want beat tricubes we need to be like them too. We have many
> various
> > level people in this group and of course many geek too and until now we
> > still not unite and still talk behind each others and curse each others.
> >
> > If we done like above and we have the right voice to consult our gov why
> > must use this and this. We done our part and then we have a right to
> blame
> > our gov heheheh. Until now we not do like that as community but many
> people
> > done but only for i

Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

[Boh Yap]

hi all,

Well, Fazli brought up a good point, maybe, becase no one else
proposed such a solution, and TriCubes did, therefore they got it.
(I'll come back to this point.. in another mail) but duhh!, is it that
easy? Then I've got 1/2 dozen proposals for 50m each, who do I submit
them to?

Whatever is said, yes tricubes may foot the initial development costs,
but if the gov is using it and paying for it, then tax-payers money is
involved. If that is the case, was due-deligence done? How?

Here, 


it says

"Proposals submitted are assessed by Entry Point Project (EPP) teams,
to ensure only sustainable and implementable business models, are
supported. In this case, the team for the e-government EPP comprised
MAMPU and GITN Sdn Bhd. Every proposal is assessed on similar
criteria."

hmm... they must be technically competent.

The justification it seems:

"Currently, most Malaysians use non-secured public e-mail e.g. yahoo,
hotmail, gmail (hosted overseas) in their communications with the
government."

Well, there's this little piece of FLOSS called PGP (Pretty Good
Privacy). And developing a plugin that works with PGP for a mail-agent
like thunderbird or web-mail would have been much easier. Also I
believe MiMOS has this thing called DigiCert, they are a Certificate
Authority, yes?

But without discussing the technical issues(? we are geeks right?),
the concept of email is so yesterday. If you want to foster better
relationship between gov and the rakyat, and foster community, a much
better type of solution would be a 'FaceBook' with Twitter clone! And
things like Diaspora, Wave in a Box (formerly GoogleWave) are FLOSS
tools that are available.




It would be an interesting collaborative exercise:

Work out a simple Specifications and Costing for such a project as
mentioned in th article, using resources that we have within OSDC.
Show how we can actually deliver this using FLOSS tools and at a
fraction of the cost. Perhaps even more appealing would be to derive a
methodology for doing such that it involves more people, perhaps using
interns/trainees from institute of higher learning, in the project.
That way, there is a wider transfer of technology (to more people) and
also to grow the community. Use the project to develop skills and
expertise, it could be part of soembody's MS/PhD thesis etc...

In this case the means is as important as the end. The end is of
course to deliver the stated objects, but with FLOSS, and the means is
to build skills and a sustainable ecosystem. This ecossytem can then
grow to become an industry, and I'm sure its returns will be much
larger than the 150m?? return quoted by TriCubes.

Four of the EPPs are under the Oil, Gas and Energy NKEA, three under
Business Services, three under Greater Kuala Lumpur, two under
Healthcare, two under Tourism, and one each under Education,
Agriculture, Wholesale and Retail, Communications Content and
Infrastructure, and Electrical and Electronics.

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran
 wrote:
> I love malaysia. :)
>
> Many news and many people have their own way to thinking and give various
> feedback. Many people still confuse what ETP for. Please read what ETP for.
> I not worried about this 50m project because it not from our gov public fund
> but it from private fund. This project was propose by tricubes to gov to
> make 1malaysia email. Because we not propose anything to our gov, our
> community just love to voice, blame, flame war and talk and talk and give
> good idea and many suggestion but who want to execute and implement it? Who?
>
> Don't blame tricubes because they get endorse by our gov about the project
> but blame our self why until now we not yet publish or do something and
> propose to our gov that we can do also same like tricubes do.
>
> What we must do now is proposal and paperwork and sent to our gov. We have
> many agency that we can propose like mimos, tpm, mdec, mampu, mcmc, intan,
> unik, miti, smidec, smecorp, terajun, pemandu and others.
>
> If we want beat tricubes we need to be like them too. We have many various
> level people in this group and of course many geek too and until now we
> still not unite and still talk behind each others and curse each others.
>
> If we done like above and we have the right voice to consult our gov why
> must use this and this. We done our part and then we have a right to blame
> our gov heheheh. Until now we not do like that as community but many people
> done but only for individually. So we are no where because we not voice as
> one.
>
> As above topic project maybe some one are behind that funded them the fund
> 50m to make 1malaysia email become reality. I don't want to know who are
> behind tricubes what I want to know is this 1malaysia email will be like use
> hotmail muahahahaha.
>
> Best Regards,
> Mohd Fazli Azran
>
> Se

Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

[tajul]

Microsoft sudah pun offer online training via Live application. Everybody in 
Ministry of Education can register free and get all the training material for 
free. Furthermore, all the Microsoft prodouct can be purchase for whom yang ada 
@moe.gov.my email for $9. 2010 version. 
Berminat boleh contact dengan I.. Hahaha
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile.

-Original Message-
From: Mohd Sufian Ahmad 
Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 01:25:28 
To: 
Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail 
Server

dah pakai kat uitm..aku baru activated the account and seem the address like
matric-num...@isiswa.uitm.edu.my..

UPSI pun pakai dulu but since on management part menyusahkan (even dah
suarakan and report to microsoft..sunyi sepi je..takde ape2 perubahan)..so
we migrate all to Google mail.:D



On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 1:22 AM, Abdul `Azim Norazmi
wrote:

> Rasanya UiTM shah alam dulu pernah jugak ada ni. Tapi tak sempat nak guna.
> Nampak brochure dengan banner je pasal Live@Edu ni. Taktau sekarang dah
> fully implement ke belum kat UiTM.
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Mohd Sufian Ahmad  > wrote:
>
>> depa pakai Live like camne penah di setup di UPSi Live@Edu..25GB is
>> skydrive..
>> basically the service is free..but tak tau le camne bole cost smp jumlah
>> tu..
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran > > wrote:
>>
>>> I love malaysia. :)
>>>
>>> Many news and many people have their own way to thinking and give various
>>> feedback. Many people still confuse what ETP for. Please read what ETP for.
>>> I not worried about this 50m project because it not from our gov public fund
>>> but it from private fund. This project was propose by tricubes to gov to
>>> make 1malaysia email. Because we not propose anything to our gov, our
>>> community just love to voice, blame, flame war and talk and talk and give
>>> good idea and many suggestion but who want to execute and implement it? Who?
>>>
>>> Don't blame tricubes because they get endorse by our gov about the
>>> project but blame our self why until now we not yet publish or do something
>>> and propose to our gov that we can do also same like tricubes do.
>>>
>>> What we must do now is proposal and paperwork and sent to our gov. We
>>> have many agency that we can propose like mimos, tpm, mdec, mampu, mcmc,
>>> intan, unik, miti, smidec, smecorp, terajun, pemandu and others.
>>>
>>> If we want beat tricubes we need to be like them too. We have many
>>> various level people in this group and of course many geek too and until now
>>> we still not unite and still talk behind each others and curse each others.
>>>
>>> If we done like above and we have the right voice to consult our gov why
>>> must use this and this. We done our part and then we have a right to blame
>>> our gov heheheh. Until now we not do like that as community but many people
>>> done but only for individually. So we are no where because we not voice as
>>> one.
>>>
>>> As above topic project maybe some one are behind that funded them the
>>> fund 50m to make 1malaysia email become reality. I don't want to know who
>>> are behind tricubes what I want to know is this 1malaysia email will be like
>>> use hotmail muahahahaha.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Mohd Fazli Azran
>>>
>>> Sent by my BlackCerry® Smartphone Powered by Wireless DIGImon
>>> --
>>> *From: * Hanxue Lee 
>>> *Sender: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
>>> *Date: *Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:28:06 +0800
>>> *To: *
>>> *ReplyTo: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject: *Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia
>>> Secure Email Server
>>>
>>> Its a waste of taxpayer money. I do not see a need to develop a service
>>> (email) which is already well established in the private sector.
>>>
>>> The article did say
>>>
>>> "Najib disclosed today the email account will allow direct and secure
>>> communication between the public and the government, and is part of a new
>>> one-stop web portal for government services."
>>>
>>> To give the benefit of doubt, perhaps its an initiative to have a
>>> one-stop solution for Malaysian citizens to interact with its government,
>>> similar to Singapore's e-Citizen http://www.ecitizen.gov.sg/ ?
>&

Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

[Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte]

Hard to get kickback on FOSS mate. Better off becoming MS' bitches.

Eric

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Hanxue Lee  wrote:

> Well said! There are opportunists abound. I would really love to provide
> solutions to the government, but even speaking to a decision maker is very
> difficult.
>
> Another aspect is the capability, whether perceived or actual, of open
> source companies. Do we understand what actually the government and
> businesses need? Solving the technical problem is only half the equation. We
> will also need to address customer's concerns.
>
> This relates to other discussions on successful open source companies such
> as Redhat. Having been in a large company that chose Redhat as the Linux
> solution provider, they have done amazingly well to understand the business
> concerns and address them. For example, having a well defined service
> contract (viewed another way, someone to blame/fix when things go wrong),
> the ability to influence their product development roadmap and taking the
> pain away from managing an enterprise IT ecosystem.
>
> Coming back to the question of Malaysian government - with a sensible
> proposal and the capability to deliver the solutions, will this be
> sufficient to win contracts and provide solutions to the government? Or are
> there other pitfalls such as needing "connections"?
>
>
> Kind regards,
> Hanxue
>
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran 
> wrote:
>
>> I love malaysia. :)
>>
>> Many news and many people have their own way to thinking and give various
>> feedback. Many people still confuse what ETP for. Please read what ETP for.
>> I not worried about this 50m project because it not from our gov public fund
>> but it from private fund. This project was propose by tricubes to gov to
>> make 1malaysia email. Because we not propose anything to our gov, our
>> community just love to voice, blame, flame war and talk and talk and give
>> good idea and many suggestion but who want to execute and implement it? Who?
>>
>> Don't blame tricubes because they get endorse by our gov about the project
>> but blame our self why until now we not yet publish or do something and
>> propose to our gov that we can do also same like tricubes do.
>>
>> What we must do now is proposal and paperwork and sent to our gov. We have
>> many agency that we can propose like mimos, tpm, mdec, mampu, mcmc, intan,
>> unik, miti, smidec, smecorp, terajun, pemandu and others.
>>
>> If we want beat tricubes we need to be like them too. We have many various
>> level people in this group and of course many geek too and until now we
>> still not unite and still talk behind each others and curse each others.
>>
>> If we done like above and we have the right voice to consult our gov why
>> must use this and this. We done our part and then we have a right to blame
>> our gov heheheh. Until now we not do like that as community but many people
>> done but only for individually. So we are no where because we not voice as
>> one.
>>
>> As above topic project maybe some one are behind that funded them the fund
>> 50m to make 1malaysia email become reality. I don't want to know who are
>> behind tricubes what I want to know is this 1malaysia email will be like use
>> hotmail muahahahaha.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Mohd Fazli Azran
>>
>> Sent by my BlackCerry® Smartphone Powered by Wireless DIGImon
>> --
>> *From: * Hanxue Lee 
>> *Sender: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
>> *Date: *Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:28:06 +0800
>> *To: *
>> *ReplyTo: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject: *Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia
>> Secure Email Server
>>
>> Its a waste of taxpayer money. I do not see a need to develop a service
>> (email) which is already well established in the private sector.
>>
>> The article did say
>>
>> "Najib disclosed today the email account will allow direct and secure
>> communication between the public and the government, and is part of a new
>> one-stop web portal for government services."
>>
>> To give the benefit of doubt, perhaps its an initiative to have a one-stop
>> solution for Malaysian citizens to interact with its government, similar to
>> Singapore's e-Citizen http://www.ecitizen.gov.sg/ ?
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Hanxue
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:01 PM, darXness darXness wrote:
>>
>>> phew...50m
>>>
>>> even we have paperwork,proposal,manpower and all things,will they
>>> trust us?that job already taken by tricubes.and i cant thing one way
>>> to prevent this.we already have OSDC,but even OSDC is under gov sector
>>> (sorry if i mistake about this),already deploy so much FLOSS server
>>> inside gov sector,n they look like we doesnt exist.
>>>
>>> maybe someone should poke "him".
>>>
>>> if i got that job,50m.i will_.:D
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Boh Yap  wrote:
>>> > hi, all you FLOSS guys out there,
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/1-m

Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

[Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte]

I love Malaysia as well.

But to do you think they could have succeeded in nailing down the contract
without Najib's brother being on board?

Funny with all the talk about MAMPU and the Public Sector supporting FOSS,
at the end of the day they still prefer to be Microsoft's bitches.

They really know how to spend our tax money.

Eric


On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran wrote:

> I love malaysia. :)
>
> Many news and many people have their own way to thinking and give various
> feedback. Many people still confuse what ETP for. Please read what ETP for.
> I not worried about this 50m project because it not from our gov public fund
> but it from private fund. This project was propose by tricubes to gov to
> make 1malaysia email. Because we not propose anything to our gov, our
> community just love to voice, blame, flame war and talk and talk and give
> good idea and many suggestion but who want to execute and implement it? Who?
>
> Don't blame tricubes because they get endorse by our gov about the project
> but blame our self why until now we not yet publish or do something and
> propose to our gov that we can do also same like tricubes do.
>
> What we must do now is proposal and paperwork and sent to our gov. We have
> many agency that we can propose like mimos, tpm, mdec, mampu, mcmc, intan,
> unik, miti, smidec, smecorp, terajun, pemandu and others.
>
> If we want beat tricubes we need to be like them too. We have many various
> level people in this group and of course many geek too and until now we
> still not unite and still talk behind each others and curse each others.
>
> If we done like above and we have the right voice to consult our gov why
> must use this and this. We done our part and then we have a right to blame
> our gov heheheh. Until now we not do like that as community but many people
> done but only for individually. So we are no where because we not voice as
> one.
>
> As above topic project maybe some one are behind that funded them the fund
> 50m to make 1malaysia email become reality. I don't want to know who are
> behind tricubes what I want to know is this 1malaysia email will be like use
> hotmail muahahahaha.
>
> Best Regards,
> Mohd Fazli Azran
>
> Sent by my BlackCerry® Smartphone Powered by Wireless DIGImon
> --
> *From: * Hanxue Lee 
> *Sender: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
> *Date: *Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:28:06 +0800
> *To: *
> *ReplyTo: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia
> Secure Email Server
>
> Its a waste of taxpayer money. I do not see a need to develop a service
> (email) which is already well established in the private sector.
>
> The article did say
>
> "Najib disclosed today the email account will allow direct and secure
> communication between the public and the government, and is part of a new
> one-stop web portal for government services."
>
> To give the benefit of doubt, perhaps its an initiative to have a one-stop
> solution for Malaysian citizens to interact with its government, similar to
> Singapore's e-Citizen http://www.ecitizen.gov.sg/ ?
>
>
> Best regards,
> Hanxue
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:01 PM, darXness darXness wrote:
>
>> phew...50m
>>
>> even we have paperwork,proposal,manpower and all things,will they
>> trust us?that job already taken by tricubes.and i cant thing one way
>> to prevent this.we already have OSDC,but even OSDC is under gov sector
>> (sorry if i mistake about this),already deploy so much FLOSS server
>> inside gov sector,n they look like we doesnt exist.
>>
>> maybe someone should poke "him".
>>
>> if i got that job,50m.i will_.:D
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Boh Yap  wrote:
>> > hi, all you FLOSS guys out there,
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/1-malaysia-email-provider-tricubes-at-risk-of-delisting/
>> >
>> > the above article "Tricubes Bhd’s RM50 million contract to develop the
>> > 1 Malaysia email service could be the financial lifeline of the
>> > information technology firm which is at risk of being delisted..."
>> >
>> > The 1 Malaysia Mail Server is meant to provide secure email services
>> > to Malaysians for their dealings with the government, and to counter
>> > the fact that a lot of the free email accounts are hosted on servers
>> > outside of Malaysia, and hence expose the data
>> >
>> > 50M to 'develop' a 'secure' email server for Malaysians to use??
>> >
>> > And they are going to use MS technology to do it ??!
>> >
>> > 
>> > The Malaysia Insider understands that the 1 Malaysia email service
>> > will be using software from Microsoft, the company that now owns the
>> > free Hotmail account service that has been eclipsed by another free
>> > email provider, Google Inc.
>> > 
>> >
>> > 
>> > The 1 Malaysia email service is part of Najib’s Economic
>> > Transformation Programme (ETP) to achieve developed nation status by
>> > 2020. He said tod

Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

[Mohd Sufian Ahmad]

dah pakai kat uitm..aku baru activated the account and seem the address like
matric-num...@isiswa.uitm.edu.my..

UPSI pun pakai dulu but since on management part menyusahkan (even dah
suarakan and report to microsoft..sunyi sepi je..takde ape2 perubahan)..so
we migrate all to Google mail.:D



On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 1:22 AM, Abdul `Azim Norazmi
wrote:

> Rasanya UiTM shah alam dulu pernah jugak ada ni. Tapi tak sempat nak guna.
> Nampak brochure dengan banner je pasal Live@Edu ni. Taktau sekarang dah
> fully implement ke belum kat UiTM.
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Mohd Sufian Ahmad  > wrote:
>
>> depa pakai Live like camne penah di setup di UPSi Live@Edu..25GB is
>> skydrive..
>> basically the service is free..but tak tau le camne bole cost smp jumlah
>> tu..
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran > > wrote:
>>
>>> I love malaysia. :)
>>>
>>> Many news and many people have their own way to thinking and give various
>>> feedback. Many people still confuse what ETP for. Please read what ETP for.
>>> I not worried about this 50m project because it not from our gov public fund
>>> but it from private fund. This project was propose by tricubes to gov to
>>> make 1malaysia email. Because we not propose anything to our gov, our
>>> community just love to voice, blame, flame war and talk and talk and give
>>> good idea and many suggestion but who want to execute and implement it? Who?
>>>
>>> Don't blame tricubes because they get endorse by our gov about the
>>> project but blame our self why until now we not yet publish or do something
>>> and propose to our gov that we can do also same like tricubes do.
>>>
>>> What we must do now is proposal and paperwork and sent to our gov. We
>>> have many agency that we can propose like mimos, tpm, mdec, mampu, mcmc,
>>> intan, unik, miti, smidec, smecorp, terajun, pemandu and others.
>>>
>>> If we want beat tricubes we need to be like them too. We have many
>>> various level people in this group and of course many geek too and until now
>>> we still not unite and still talk behind each others and curse each others.
>>>
>>> If we done like above and we have the right voice to consult our gov why
>>> must use this and this. We done our part and then we have a right to blame
>>> our gov heheheh. Until now we not do like that as community but many people
>>> done but only for individually. So we are no where because we not voice as
>>> one.
>>>
>>> As above topic project maybe some one are behind that funded them the
>>> fund 50m to make 1malaysia email become reality. I don't want to know who
>>> are behind tricubes what I want to know is this 1malaysia email will be like
>>> use hotmail muahahahaha.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Mohd Fazli Azran
>>>
>>> Sent by my BlackCerry® Smartphone Powered by Wireless DIGImon
>>> --
>>> *From: * Hanxue Lee 
>>> *Sender: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
>>> *Date: *Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:28:06 +0800
>>> *To: *
>>> *ReplyTo: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject: *Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia
>>> Secure Email Server
>>>
>>> Its a waste of taxpayer money. I do not see a need to develop a service
>>> (email) which is already well established in the private sector.
>>>
>>> The article did say
>>>
>>> "Najib disclosed today the email account will allow direct and secure
>>> communication between the public and the government, and is part of a new
>>> one-stop web portal for government services."
>>>
>>> To give the benefit of doubt, perhaps its an initiative to have a
>>> one-stop solution for Malaysian citizens to interact with its government,
>>> similar to Singapore's e-Citizen http://www.ecitizen.gov.sg/ ?
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Hanxue
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:01 PM, darXness darXness 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 phew...50m

 even we have paperwork,proposal,manpower and all things,will they
 trust us?that job already taken by tricubes.and i cant thing one way
 to prevent this.we already have OSDC,but even OSDC is under gov sector
 (sorry if i mistake about this),already deploy so much FLOSS server
 inside gov sector,n they look like we doesnt exist.

 maybe someone should poke "him".

 if i got that job,50m.i will_.:D

 On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Boh Yap  wrote:
 > hi, all you FLOSS guys out there,
 >
 >
 http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/1-malaysia-email-provider-tricubes-at-risk-of-delisting/
 >
 > the above article "Tricubes Bhd’s RM50 million contract to develop the
 > 1 Malaysia email service could be the financial lifeline of the
 > information technology firm which is at risk of being delisted..."
 >
 > The 1 Malaysia Mail Server is meant to provide secure email services
 > to Malaysians for their dealings with the government, and to counter
 > the fact that a lot of the free email accounts are host

Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

[Abdul `Azim Norazmi]

Rasanya UiTM shah alam dulu pernah jugak ada ni. Tapi tak sempat nak guna.
Nampak brochure dengan banner je pasal Live@Edu ni. Taktau sekarang dah
fully implement ke belum kat UiTM.

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Mohd Sufian Ahmad
wrote:

> depa pakai Live like camne penah di setup di UPSi Live@Edu..25GB is
> skydrive..
> basically the service is free..but tak tau le camne bole cost smp jumlah
> tu..
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran 
> wrote:
>
>> I love malaysia. :)
>>
>> Many news and many people have their own way to thinking and give various
>> feedback. Many people still confuse what ETP for. Please read what ETP for.
>> I not worried about this 50m project because it not from our gov public fund
>> but it from private fund. This project was propose by tricubes to gov to
>> make 1malaysia email. Because we not propose anything to our gov, our
>> community just love to voice, blame, flame war and talk and talk and give
>> good idea and many suggestion but who want to execute and implement it? Who?
>>
>> Don't blame tricubes because they get endorse by our gov about the project
>> but blame our self why until now we not yet publish or do something and
>> propose to our gov that we can do also same like tricubes do.
>>
>> What we must do now is proposal and paperwork and sent to our gov. We have
>> many agency that we can propose like mimos, tpm, mdec, mampu, mcmc, intan,
>> unik, miti, smidec, smecorp, terajun, pemandu and others.
>>
>> If we want beat tricubes we need to be like them too. We have many various
>> level people in this group and of course many geek too and until now we
>> still not unite and still talk behind each others and curse each others.
>>
>> If we done like above and we have the right voice to consult our gov why
>> must use this and this. We done our part and then we have a right to blame
>> our gov heheheh. Until now we not do like that as community but many people
>> done but only for individually. So we are no where because we not voice as
>> one.
>>
>> As above topic project maybe some one are behind that funded them the fund
>> 50m to make 1malaysia email become reality. I don't want to know who are
>> behind tricubes what I want to know is this 1malaysia email will be like use
>> hotmail muahahahaha.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Mohd Fazli Azran
>>
>> Sent by my BlackCerry® Smartphone Powered by Wireless DIGImon
>> --
>> *From: * Hanxue Lee 
>> *Sender: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
>> *Date: *Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:28:06 +0800
>> *To: *
>> *ReplyTo: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject: *Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia
>> Secure Email Server
>>
>> Its a waste of taxpayer money. I do not see a need to develop a service
>> (email) which is already well established in the private sector.
>>
>> The article did say
>>
>> "Najib disclosed today the email account will allow direct and secure
>> communication between the public and the government, and is part of a new
>> one-stop web portal for government services."
>>
>> To give the benefit of doubt, perhaps its an initiative to have a one-stop
>> solution for Malaysian citizens to interact with its government, similar to
>> Singapore's e-Citizen http://www.ecitizen.gov.sg/ ?
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Hanxue
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:01 PM, darXness darXness wrote:
>>
>>> phew...50m
>>>
>>> even we have paperwork,proposal,manpower and all things,will they
>>> trust us?that job already taken by tricubes.and i cant thing one way
>>> to prevent this.we already have OSDC,but even OSDC is under gov sector
>>> (sorry if i mistake about this),already deploy so much FLOSS server
>>> inside gov sector,n they look like we doesnt exist.
>>>
>>> maybe someone should poke "him".
>>>
>>> if i got that job,50m.i will_.:D
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Boh Yap  wrote:
>>> > hi, all you FLOSS guys out there,
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/1-malaysia-email-provider-tricubes-at-risk-of-delisting/
>>> >
>>> > the above article "Tricubes Bhd’s RM50 million contract to develop the
>>> > 1 Malaysia email service could be the financial lifeline of the
>>> > information technology firm which is at risk of being delisted..."
>>> >
>>> > The 1 Malaysia Mail Server is meant to provide secure email services
>>> > to Malaysians for their dealings with the government, and to counter
>>> > the fact that a lot of the free email accounts are hosted on servers
>>> > outside of Malaysia, and hence expose the data
>>> >
>>> > 50M to 'develop' a 'secure' email server for Malaysians to use??
>>> >
>>> > And they are going to use MS technology to do it ??!
>>> >
>>> > 
>>> > The Malaysia Insider understands that the 1 Malaysia email service
>>> > will be using software from Microsoft, the company that now owns the
>>> > free Hotmail account service that has been eclipsed by another free
>>> > email provider, Googl

Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

[Mohd Sufian Ahmad]

depa pakai Live like camne penah di setup di UPSi Live@Edu..25GB is
skydrive..
basically the service is free..but tak tau le camne bole cost smp jumlah
tu..


On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran wrote:

> I love malaysia. :)
>
> Many news and many people have their own way to thinking and give various
> feedback. Many people still confuse what ETP for. Please read what ETP for.
> I not worried about this 50m project because it not from our gov public fund
> but it from private fund. This project was propose by tricubes to gov to
> make 1malaysia email. Because we not propose anything to our gov, our
> community just love to voice, blame, flame war and talk and talk and give
> good idea and many suggestion but who want to execute and implement it? Who?
>
> Don't blame tricubes because they get endorse by our gov about the project
> but blame our self why until now we not yet publish or do something and
> propose to our gov that we can do also same like tricubes do.
>
> What we must do now is proposal and paperwork and sent to our gov. We have
> many agency that we can propose like mimos, tpm, mdec, mampu, mcmc, intan,
> unik, miti, smidec, smecorp, terajun, pemandu and others.
>
> If we want beat tricubes we need to be like them too. We have many various
> level people in this group and of course many geek too and until now we
> still not unite and still talk behind each others and curse each others.
>
> If we done like above and we have the right voice to consult our gov why
> must use this and this. We done our part and then we have a right to blame
> our gov heheheh. Until now we not do like that as community but many people
> done but only for individually. So we are no where because we not voice as
> one.
>
> As above topic project maybe some one are behind that funded them the fund
> 50m to make 1malaysia email become reality. I don't want to know who are
> behind tricubes what I want to know is this 1malaysia email will be like use
> hotmail muahahahaha.
>
> Best Regards,
> Mohd Fazli Azran
>
> Sent by my BlackCerry® Smartphone Powered by Wireless DIGImon
> --
> *From: * Hanxue Lee 
> *Sender: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
> *Date: *Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:28:06 +0800
> *To: *
> *ReplyTo: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia
> Secure Email Server
>
> Its a waste of taxpayer money. I do not see a need to develop a service
> (email) which is already well established in the private sector.
>
> The article did say
>
> "Najib disclosed today the email account will allow direct and secure
> communication between the public and the government, and is part of a new
> one-stop web portal for government services."
>
> To give the benefit of doubt, perhaps its an initiative to have a one-stop
> solution for Malaysian citizens to interact with its government, similar to
> Singapore's e-Citizen http://www.ecitizen.gov.sg/ ?
>
>
> Best regards,
> Hanxue
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:01 PM, darXness darXness wrote:
>
>> phew...50m
>>
>> even we have paperwork,proposal,manpower and all things,will they
>> trust us?that job already taken by tricubes.and i cant thing one way
>> to prevent this.we already have OSDC,but even OSDC is under gov sector
>> (sorry if i mistake about this),already deploy so much FLOSS server
>> inside gov sector,n they look like we doesnt exist.
>>
>> maybe someone should poke "him".
>>
>> if i got that job,50m.i will_.:D
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Boh Yap  wrote:
>> > hi, all you FLOSS guys out there,
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/1-malaysia-email-provider-tricubes-at-risk-of-delisting/
>> >
>> > the above article "Tricubes Bhd’s RM50 million contract to develop the
>> > 1 Malaysia email service could be the financial lifeline of the
>> > information technology firm which is at risk of being delisted..."
>> >
>> > The 1 Malaysia Mail Server is meant to provide secure email services
>> > to Malaysians for their dealings with the government, and to counter
>> > the fact that a lot of the free email accounts are hosted on servers
>> > outside of Malaysia, and hence expose the data
>> >
>> > 50M to 'develop' a 'secure' email server for Malaysians to use??
>> >
>> > And they are going to use MS technology to do it ??!
>> >
>> > 
>> > The Malaysia Insider understands that the 1 Malaysia email service
>> > will be using software from Microsoft, the company that now owns the
>> > free Hotmail account service that has been eclipsed by another free
>> > email provider, Google Inc.
>> > 
>> >
>> > 
>> > The 1 Malaysia email service is part of Najib’s Economic
>> > Transformation Programme (ETP) to achieve developed nation status by
>> > 2020. He said today the RM50 million investment will have a gross
>> > national income (GNI) impact of RM39 million up to 2015 and will
>> > enhance delivery of public services.
>> > 
>> >
>> > We

Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

[Mohd Fazli Azran]

Need give 5 star on this. :)

Sent by my BlackCerry® Smartphone Powered by Wireless DIGImon

-Original Message-
From: Ihsan Junaidi Ibrahim 
Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 23:55:39 
To: 
Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail 
Server

Hi,

Let us put aside the technical merits of such proposal because to most of us it 
raises more questions that it answers for.

To me, an SSO proposal rather than email would have made a lot of sense with 
myriads of agencies operating their own systems.

On Apr 20, 2011, at 10:22 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote:

> this article includes a response from the pm and tricubes
> http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/4/20/nation/20110420155327&sec=nation#13033084438331&if_height=583

Our dear PM is technically correct. It doesn't cost the taxpayers a cent now.

Let us wait for the news when Tricubes start charging an obscene amount of 
money to government agencies wanting to send notices to their users.

Like my good friend at despair.com is still saying, 

If you're not part of the solution, there's a good money to be made in 
prolonging the problem.

Oh and if it gets you off Bursa's bad book, sure why not.

ihsan

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Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

very sharp observation ;-)


On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 11:55 PM, Ihsan Junaidi Ibrahim <
ihsan.juna...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Let us put aside the technical merits of such proposal because to most of
> us it raises more questions that it answers for.
>
> To me, an SSO proposal rather than email would have made a lot of sense
> with myriads of agencies operating their own systems.
>
> On Apr 20, 2011, at 10:22 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote:
>
> this article includes a response from the pm and tricubes
>
> http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/4/20/nation/20110420155327&sec=nation#13033084438331&if_height=583
>
>
> Our dear PM is technically correct. It doesn't cost the taxpayers a cent
> now.
>
> Let us wait for the news when Tricubes start charging an obscene amount of
> money to government agencies wanting to send notices to their users.
>
> Like my good friend at despair.com is still saying,
>
> If you're not part of the solution, there's a good money to be made in
> prolonging the problem.
>
> Oh and if it gets you off Bursa's bad book, sure why not.
>
> ihsan
>
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Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

[Ihsan Junaidi Ibrahim]

Hi,

Let us put aside the technical merits of such proposal because to most of us it 
raises more questions that it answers for.

To me, an SSO proposal rather than email would have made a lot of sense with 
myriads of agencies operating their own systems.

On Apr 20, 2011, at 10:22 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote:

> this article includes a response from the pm and tricubes
> http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/4/20/nation/20110420155327&sec=nation#13033084438331&if_height=583

Our dear PM is technically correct. It doesn't cost the taxpayers a cent now.

Let us wait for the news when Tricubes start charging an obscene amount of 
money to government agencies wanting to send notices to their users.

Like my good friend at despair.com is still saying, 

If you're not part of the solution, there's a good money to be made in 
prolonging the problem.

Oh and if it gets you off Bursa's bad book, sure why not.

ihsan

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Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

[Hanxue Lee]

Well said! There are opportunists abound. I would really love to provide
solutions to the government, but even speaking to a decision maker is very
difficult.

Another aspect is the capability, whether perceived or actual, of open
source companies. Do we understand what actually the government and
businesses need? Solving the technical problem is only half the equation. We
will also need to address customer's concerns.

This relates to other discussions on successful open source companies such
as Redhat. Having been in a large company that chose Redhat as the Linux
solution provider, they have done amazingly well to understand the business
concerns and address them. For example, having a well defined service
contract (viewed another way, someone to blame/fix when things go wrong),
the ability to influence their product development roadmap and taking the
pain away from managing an enterprise IT ecosystem.

Coming back to the question of Malaysian government - with a sensible
proposal and the capability to deliver the solutions, will this be
sufficient to win contracts and provide solutions to the government? Or are
there other pitfalls such as needing "connections"?


Kind regards,
Hanxue

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran wrote:

> I love malaysia. :)
>
> Many news and many people have their own way to thinking and give various
> feedback. Many people still confuse what ETP for. Please read what ETP for.
> I not worried about this 50m project because it not from our gov public fund
> but it from private fund. This project was propose by tricubes to gov to
> make 1malaysia email. Because we not propose anything to our gov, our
> community just love to voice, blame, flame war and talk and talk and give
> good idea and many suggestion but who want to execute and implement it? Who?
>
> Don't blame tricubes because they get endorse by our gov about the project
> but blame our self why until now we not yet publish or do something and
> propose to our gov that we can do also same like tricubes do.
>
> What we must do now is proposal and paperwork and sent to our gov. We have
> many agency that we can propose like mimos, tpm, mdec, mampu, mcmc, intan,
> unik, miti, smidec, smecorp, terajun, pemandu and others.
>
> If we want beat tricubes we need to be like them too. We have many various
> level people in this group and of course many geek too and until now we
> still not unite and still talk behind each others and curse each others.
>
> If we done like above and we have the right voice to consult our gov why
> must use this and this. We done our part and then we have a right to blame
> our gov heheheh. Until now we not do like that as community but many people
> done but only for individually. So we are no where because we not voice as
> one.
>
> As above topic project maybe some one are behind that funded them the fund
> 50m to make 1malaysia email become reality. I don't want to know who are
> behind tricubes what I want to know is this 1malaysia email will be like use
> hotmail muahahahaha.
>
> Best Regards,
> Mohd Fazli Azran
>
> Sent by my BlackCerry® Smartphone Powered by Wireless DIGImon
> --
> *From: * Hanxue Lee 
> *Sender: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
> *Date: *Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:28:06 +0800
> *To: *
> *ReplyTo: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia
> Secure Email Server
>
> Its a waste of taxpayer money. I do not see a need to develop a service
> (email) which is already well established in the private sector.
>
> The article did say
>
> "Najib disclosed today the email account will allow direct and secure
> communication between the public and the government, and is part of a new
> one-stop web portal for government services."
>
> To give the benefit of doubt, perhaps its an initiative to have a one-stop
> solution for Malaysian citizens to interact with its government, similar to
> Singapore's e-Citizen http://www.ecitizen.gov.sg/ ?
>
>
> Best regards,
> Hanxue
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:01 PM, darXness darXness wrote:
>
>> phew...50m
>>
>> even we have paperwork,proposal,manpower and all things,will they
>> trust us?that job already taken by tricubes.and i cant thing one way
>> to prevent this.we already have OSDC,but even OSDC is under gov sector
>> (sorry if i mistake about this),already deploy so much FLOSS server
>> inside gov sector,n they look like we doesnt exist.
>>
>> maybe someone should poke "him".
>>
>> if i got that job,50m.i will_.:D
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Boh Yap  wrote:
>> > hi, all you FLOSS guys out there,
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/1-malaysia-email-provider-tricubes-at-risk-of-delisting/
>> >
>> > the above article "Tricubes Bhd’s RM50 million contract to develop the
>> > 1 Malaysia email service could be the financial lifeline of the
>> > information technology firm which is at risk of being de

Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

this article includes a response from the pm and tricubes
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/4/20/nation/20110420155327&sec=nation#13033084438331&if_height=583

fortunately i dont work at tricubes

my sister used to work there before she quit about 5 years ago. she was a
programmer doing the mobile smart card devices.

by the way, anyone knows of any applicable technology that can be used for
renewable energy / energy savings - i know of a glc who might be interested.
any systems for monitoring / self-diagnosis of electricity consumption would
be quite nice


On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Mohd Fazli Azran wrote:

> I love malaysia. :)
>
> Many news and many people have their own way to thinking and give various
> feedback. Many people still confuse what ETP for. Please read what ETP for.
> I not worried about this 50m project because it not from our gov public fund
> but it from private fund. This project was propose by tricubes to gov to
> make 1malaysia email. Because we not propose anything to our gov, our
> community just love to voice, blame, flame war and talk and talk and give
> good idea and many suggestion but who want to execute and implement it? Who?
>
> Don't blame tricubes because they get endorse by our gov about the project
> but blame our self why until now we not yet publish or do something and
> propose to our gov that we can do also same like tricubes do.
>
> What we must do now is proposal and paperwork and sent to our gov. We have
> many agency that we can propose like mimos, tpm, mdec, mampu, mcmc, intan,
> unik, miti, smidec, smecorp, terajun, pemandu and others.
>
> If we want beat tricubes we need to be like them too. We have many various
> level people in this group and of course many geek too and until now we
> still not unite and still talk behind each others and curse each others.
>
> If we done like above and we have the right voice to consult our gov why
> must use this and this. We done our part and then we have a right to blame
> our gov heheheh. Until now we not do like that as community but many people
> done but only for individually. So we are no where because we not voice as
> one.
>
> As above topic project maybe some one are behind that funded them the fund
> 50m to make 1malaysia email become reality. I don't want to know who are
> behind tricubes what I want to know is this 1malaysia email will be like use
> hotmail muahahahaha.
>
> Best Regards,
> Mohd Fazli Azran
>
> Sent by my BlackCerry® Smartphone Powered by Wireless DIGImon
> --
> *From: * Hanxue Lee 
> *Sender: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
> *Date: *Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:28:06 +0800
> *To: *
> *ReplyTo: * osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia
> Secure Email Server
>
> Its a waste of taxpayer money. I do not see a need to develop a service
> (email) which is already well established in the private sector.
>
> The article did say
>
> "Najib disclosed today the email account will allow direct and secure
> communication between the public and the government, and is part of a new
> one-stop web portal for government services."
>
> To give the benefit of doubt, perhaps its an initiative to have a one-stop
> solution for Malaysian citizens to interact with its government, similar to
> Singapore's e-Citizen http://www.ecitizen.gov.sg/ ?
>
>
> Best regards,
> Hanxue
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:01 PM, darXness darXness wrote:
>
>> phew...50m
>>
>> even we have paperwork,proposal,manpower and all things,will they
>> trust us?that job already taken by tricubes.and i cant thing one way
>> to prevent this.we already have OSDC,but even OSDC is under gov sector
>> (sorry if i mistake about this),already deploy so much FLOSS server
>> inside gov sector,n they look like we doesnt exist.
>>
>> maybe someone should poke "him".
>>
>> if i got that job,50m.i will_.:D
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Boh Yap  wrote:
>> > hi, all you FLOSS guys out there,
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/1-malaysia-email-provider-tricubes-at-risk-of-delisting/
>> >
>> > the above article "Tricubes Bhd’s RM50 million contract to develop the
>> > 1 Malaysia email service could be the financial lifeline of the
>> > information technology firm which is at risk of being delisted..."
>> >
>> > The 1 Malaysia Mail Server is meant to provide secure email services
>> > to Malaysians for their dealings with the government, and to counter
>> > the fact that a lot of the free email accounts are hosted on servers
>> > outside of Malaysia, and hence expose the data
>> >
>> > 50M to 'develop' a 'secure' email server for Malaysians to use??
>> >
>> > And they are going to use MS technology to do it ??!
>> >
>> > 
>> > The Malaysia Insider understands that the 1 Malaysia email service
>> > will be using software from Microsoft, the company that now owns the
>> > free Hotmail account service that h

Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

[Mohd Fazli Azran]

I love malaysia. :)

Many news and many people have their own way to thinking and give various 
feedback. Many people still confuse what ETP for. Please read what ETP for. I 
not worried about this 50m project because it not from our gov public fund but 
it from private fund. This project was propose by tricubes to gov to make 
1malaysia email. Because we not propose anything to our gov, our community just 
love to voice, blame, flame war and talk and talk and give good idea and many 
suggestion but who want to execute and implement it? Who?

Don't blame tricubes because they get endorse by our gov about the project but 
blame our self  why until now we not yet publish or do something and propose to 
our gov that we can do also same like tricubes do.

What we must do now is proposal and paperwork and sent to our gov. We have many 
agency that we can propose like mimos, tpm, mdec, mampu, mcmc, intan, unik, 
miti, smidec, smecorp, terajun, pemandu and others.

If we want beat tricubes we need to be like them too. We have many various 
level people in this group and of course many geek too and until now we still 
not unite and still talk behind  each others and curse each others. 

If we done like above and we have the right voice to consult our gov why must 
use this and this. We done our part and then we have a right to blame our gov 
heheheh. Until now we not do like that as community but many people done but 
only for individually. So we are no where because we not voice as one.

As above topic project maybe some one are behind that funded them the  fund 50m 
to make 1malaysia email become reality. I don't want to know who are behind 
tricubes what I want to know is this 1malaysia email will be like use hotmail 
muahahahaha.

Best Regards,
Mohd Fazli Azran
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-Original Message-
From: Hanxue Lee 
Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:28:06 
To: 
Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia Secure
 Email Server

Its a waste of taxpayer money. I do not see a need to develop a service
(email) which is already well established in the private sector.

The article did say

"Najib disclosed today the email account will allow direct and secure
communication between the public and the government, and is part of a new
one-stop web portal for government services."

To give the benefit of doubt, perhaps its an initiative to have a one-stop
solution for Malaysian citizens to interact with its government, similar to
Singapore's e-Citizen http://www.ecitizen.gov.sg/ ?


Best regards,
Hanxue



On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:01 PM, darXness darXness wrote:

> phew...50m
>
> even we have paperwork,proposal,manpower and all things,will they
> trust us?that job already taken by tricubes.and i cant thing one way
> to prevent this.we already have OSDC,but even OSDC is under gov sector
> (sorry if i mistake about this),already deploy so much FLOSS server
> inside gov sector,n they look like we doesnt exist.
>
> maybe someone should poke "him".
>
> if i got that job,50m.i will_.:D
>
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Boh Yap  wrote:
> > hi, all you FLOSS guys out there,
> >
> >
> http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/1-malaysia-email-provider-tricubes-at-risk-of-delisting/
> >
> > the above article "Tricubes Bhd’s RM50 million contract to develop the
> > 1 Malaysia email service could be the financial lifeline of the
> > information technology firm which is at risk of being delisted..."
> >
> > The 1 Malaysia Mail Server is meant to provide secure email services
> > to Malaysians for their dealings with the government, and to counter
> > the fact that a lot of the free email accounts are hosted on servers
> > outside of Malaysia, and hence expose the data
> >
> > 50M to 'develop' a 'secure' email server for Malaysians to use??
> >
> > And they are going to use MS technology to do it ??!
> >
> > 
> > The Malaysia Insider understands that the 1 Malaysia email service
> > will be using software from Microsoft, the company that now owns the
> > free Hotmail account service that has been eclipsed by another free
> > email provider, Google Inc.
> > 
> >
> > 
> > The 1 Malaysia email service is part of Najib’s Economic
> > Transformation Programme (ETP) to achieve developed nation status by
> > 2020. He said today the RM50 million investment will have a gross
> > national income (GNI) impact of RM39 million up to 2015 and will
> > enhance delivery of public services.
> > 
> >
> > Well, well, well. something funny is going on.
> > There are perfectly good FLOSS email software, crypto tools etc... and
> > we (among OSDC) certainly have the manpower & skills to implement and
> > deploy such solutions.
> >
> > Even if a 'bunch of FLOSS' developers cannot do so immediately, giving
> > funding to the community will allow them to build the skills and
> > know