Re: [ozmidwifery] HOMEBIRTH INFORMATION
Jan, Where are you getting these statistics from? I find this of interest for the research that I am pursuing at the moment. Take care Alphia At 08:25 AM 1/09/03 +1000, you wrote: Dear ozmid subscribers If anyone has first-hand knowledge of any adverse or 'near miss' outcomes from any PLANNED UNATTENDED HOMEBIRTHS please send it to me privately. There seems to be at least twice the number of unattended homebirths occurring in NSW than those attended by registered midwives. Any information forwarded will be treated confidentially (your names will not be published) but accurate information of cases will be compiled in a list of 'horror stories' that ASIM will use to try and fast-track the funding of homebirths in NSW. Every woman deserves her own midwife free of charge. Thanks in anticipation Jan __ Jan Robinson Phone/fax: 011+ 61+ 2+ 9546 4350 Independent Midwife Practitioner e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8 Robin Crescent www: midwiferyeducation.com.au South Hurstville NSW 2221 National Coordinator, ASIM __ -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] see you guys!
Jo, I know I speak for many here in Adelaide, and on the list who value your knowledge and committment to the cause, and who will greatly miss your humorous and invaluable input on the list. Please.look after yourself, this is most important. You can't be everything to everyone else if you aren't able to look after number 1. You are a truly incredible woman, and you deserve a break! Take great care, and I look forward to seeing you at another CARES coffee gathering. Warm hugs Tania - Original Message - From: Jo Dean Bainbridge To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 10:46 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] see you guys! well, after all these years of putting the cat amongst the pigeons and jumping up on my soap box I am calling it a day! I bet most of you who know me never thought the day would come (and know that many others have been praying for it to come LOL). I am still committed to CARES SA but looked around my house the other day and there is a six year old, a four year old and a two year oldI cant quite remember tem getting to those agestime to let go of some things. I will remain interested in VBAC and cs stuff, so if anyone wants to get hold of me just go to the CARES web site: www.cares-sa.org.au I will cease my subscription tomorrow in case anyone needs me for anything. National Caesarean Awareness Day people, please keep in touch with what you are doing...I am hoping that if we can keep record of events we maybe able to get sponsorship for the future. Can I ask that anyone who is doing anything for NCAD and requires logos or the philosophies/goals/aims etc, please again visit the CARES web site. The NCAD was initiated by CARES and we must maintain the appropriate 'feel'...it is not anti cs and should never be used to make full frontal attacks...subtle attacks in the guise of "education and informed choices" etc are always more successful. As I am suffering a phantom post birth brain ...every 2nd August for the last 6 yearsI have birthed...until this one :( I have forgotten the name of the midwife in Tassie who sent me the wonderful VBAC kit that she is involved with.I am so sorry, your name will pop into my head as soon as I send this... CAN I JUST SAY THAT WHAT YOU HAVE DONE IS WONDERFUL AND I WILL BE GETTING BACK TO YOU WITH SOME FEEDBACK SOON. I have lots happening at the moment and every time that gets almost on the top of my to do list something else jumps on top of it. But I will be getting back to you. SOON!!! Once again, thank you to all who have answered my many questions, who have shared with me their knowledge...I am in awe of you all and hold you in the highest admiration.Knowing that there are care providers who still hold the common goal of helping women achieve the most positive births is a welcoming thought! I will unsubscribe tomorrow. Cheers for the last time! JO Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAwww.cares-sa.org.au[EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08 8388 6918birth with trust, faith love...
[ozmidwifery] questions about care options in sydney
Hi, I am fairly new to this list, I hope that this is the right place to be asking these questions. I had my first child 18 months ago in Adelaide, at the Birth Centre at the QEH. We received truly excellent care throughout my pregnancy, the birth and with breastfeeding problems afterwards, I wouldn't hesitate to go back but we are now living in Sydney. I am not yet pregnant but I am feeling anxious to know what my options are and a girlfriend who lives round the corner has just found out she is pregnant so we have decided to explore all the options available to us together. I would like to know: 1) is there a publicly funded caseload/continuity of care program running anywhere in sydney? 2) is there any publicly funded homebirth otpion available in sydney? 3) where do I find a list of independent midwives working in the eastern suburbs? 4) does the RWH birth centre allow you to book as a private patient under the care of an independant midwife? If so is there a limited list of midwives who have admitting rights? The same questions for the KGV birth centre actually. 5) where can I find out stats on the birth centres at Randwick and KGV such as transfer out rates (before and during labour), intervention rates for transfered women and also any policies I am likely to want to know about (for example do they have policies regarding active management of 3rd state, water birth, breech, twins, vbac, time limits, etc). 6) who is the right person to contact in order to make a time to see the RWH and KGV birth centres and talk in person about their philosophies and policies? 7) I would also like to make a shortlist of good OBs should one become necessary so anyone on this list who is able to recommend an OB practicing preferably at RWH/POWP, but anywhere in sydney would do, who is very supportive of natural birth and is for example homebirth friendly and experienced with vaginal breech, please let me know. I would also be very grateful for warnings of anyone to particularly steer clear of. If you prefer to answer this last question privately (or any of the questions really) please feel free to email me directly. thanks so much! Jo -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] [saveourbirthcentre] Rally!
Pinky I doubt they are that well organised but I will ask Denise - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 10:28 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] [saveourbirthcentre] Rally! Hi Denise -I have forwarded this to www.bellybelly.biz and Kelly the host there would like to know if there is a web link with more info that she can link to for parents to access? Pinky - Original Message - From: Denise Hynd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 3:12 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] [saveourbirthcentre] Rally! Forwarded on behalf of the Friends of the Moorabin Birth Centre which is facing closure Denise Hynd -Original Message-From: Rebel Lorenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 30 August 2003 10:14 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [saveourbirthcentre] Rally! Hi Enthusiasts of MBC, It is not an easy task to confront the medical establishment with pure facts that are contrary to what they hold as being true. Australian maternity care is not being practiced according to world best practice standards (WHO). Our rates of intervention are way too high and our outcomes are not satisfactory by any means. However, more to the point, to lose MBC would be to erode choice for women in childbirth - a choice for a better outcome and a better start to life. We are at the point where we need to have a RALLY to show the Minister for Health that the community abhors her decision to limit choice. We would love as many people - kids, mums, dads, preggie bellies, friends, midwives, clients - to get together outside the MBC and show their support for MBC, one-on-one midwifery, community midwifery, woman-centred care and choices in childbirth. Balloons, placards and enthusiasm! We will be posting a date soon. It will need to be an early weekday morning at about 10AM. Probably a Wednesday. Stayin the loop as we need you and all your friends there. Thanks for your support. Rebel Lorenz Representative friends of the Birth Centre. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ---Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.514 / Virus Database: 312 - Release Date: 28/08/2003 ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.514 / Virus Database: 312 - Release Date: 28/08/2003
[ozmidwifery] Co - sleeping!!!
Hi all, have just had a call from A Current affair - my co-sleeping interview is on tonight!!! Fingers crossed it is a positive -the "other side" is a forensic professor from Adelaide. Two mums had cameras placed in their bedrooms overnight - brave women! Pinky
Re: [ozmidwifery] see you guys!
Jo Thank you for all your efforts to CS women and information on this list Take a well earned leave and time with your family Denise Hynd - Original Message - From: Jo Dean Bainbridge To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 5:46 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] see you guys! well, after all these years of putting the cat amongst the pigeons and jumping up on my soap box I am calling it a day! I bet most of you who know me never thought the day would come (and know that many others have been praying for it to come LOL). I am still committed to CARES SA but looked around my house the other day and there is a six year old, a four year old and a two year oldI cant quite remember tem getting to those agestime to let go of some things. I will remain interested in VBAC and cs stuff, so if anyone wants to get hold of me just go to the CARES web site: www.cares-sa.org.au I will cease my subscription tomorrow in case anyone needs me for anything. National Caesarean Awareness Day people, please keep in touch with what you are doing...I am hoping that if we can keep record of events we maybe able to get sponsorship for the future. Can I ask that anyone who is doing anything for NCAD and requires logos or the philosophies/goals/aims etc, please again visit the CARES web site. The NCAD was initiated by CARES and we must maintain the appropriate 'feel'...it is not anti cs and should never be used to make full frontal attacks...subtle attacks in the guise of "education and informed choices" etc are always more successful. As I am suffering a phantom post birth brain ...every 2nd August for the last 6 yearsI have birthed...until this one :( I have forgotten the name of the midwife in Tassie who sent me the wonderful VBAC kit that she is involved with.I am so sorry, your name will pop into my head as soon as I send this... CAN I JUST SAY THAT WHAT YOU HAVE DONE IS WONDERFUL AND I WILL BE GETTING BACK TO YOU WITH SOME FEEDBACK SOON. I have lots happening at the moment and every time that gets almost on the top of my to do list something else jumps on top of it. But I will be getting back to you. SOON!!! Once again, thank you to all who have answered my many questions, who have shared with me their knowledge...I am in awe of you all and hold you in the highest admiration.Knowing that there are care providers who still hold the common goal of helping women achieve the most positive births is a welcoming thought! I will unsubscribe tomorrow. Cheers for the last time! JO Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAwww.cares-sa.org.au[EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08 8388 6918birth with trust, faith love...
Re: [ozmidwifery] HOMEBIRTH INFORMATION
Thanks for that info Jo. Your comment that many of these 'doing it unassisted' quite successfully is what I expected. It concerns me that Jan is seeking out information re any adverse or 'near miss' outcomes from any PLANNED UNATTENDED HOMEBIRTHS to use as a list of 'horror stories' that ASIM will use to try and fast-track the funding of homebirths in NSW. Just like how they try to use horror stories of midwife assisted homebirth to tell us that we should be birthing in hospitals. In fact, I think that Jan might find the opposite is true of what she is seeking. Regards, Jayne Hi Jayne, As the coordinator of Homebirth Access Sydney (consumer run organisation) I do receive calls from women requesting information about unassisted homebirth. I was receiving quite a few calls for a time there (averaging 1 - 2 a month, which I consider alot), however I haven't received any for a while. It seems there are a range of reasons women are choosing unattended homebirth, it is important to remember here that unattended does not necessarily mean unsupported. Many of the women I have spoken with who have opted to go down this road are very supported (just not by a midwife) and have studied and researched extensively and know more about birth than most birthing woman and possibly some midwives. The reasons I have come across are (in order of preference) - Have had previous homebirths and don't have access to a midwife (either no one in area or midwives they have contacted are totally booked up) - A personal philosophy, something that they and their partner really want to do - Have had previous negative experience in hospital, don't want to go down that road again but can't find a midwife. - Have had previous uncomplicated natural birth in hospital, want to birth at home but can't afford/find a midwife. It is very difficult because of the nature of phone contact there is often no follow up, therefore we never end up knowing what these women decide to do and what outcomes have occurred. I do ask them to keep in touch but inevitably they don't. Looking at the statistics of homebirths with a midwife attending and homebirths without a midwife attending (which I believe is more than double), it appears that many of them are 'doing it unassisted' quite successfully. Cheers Jo Hunter Homebirth mum to 4 children HAS Coordinator INNATE BIRTH CBE and Doula - Original Message - From: jayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] HOMEBIRTH INFORMATION Are these planned unattended homebirths being choosen because they can't afford/have access to a midwife? Or for other reasons? Jayne If anyone has first-hand knowledge of any adverse or 'near miss' outcomes from any PLANNED UNATTENDED HOMEBIRTHS please send it to me privately. There seems to be at least twice the number of unattended homebirths occurring in NSW than those attended by registered midwives. Any information forwarded will be treated confidentially (your names will not be published) but accurate information of cases will be compiled in a list of 'horror stories' that ASIM will use to try and fast-track the funding of homebirths in NSW. Every woman deserves her own midwife free of charge. Thanks in anticipation Jan __ Jan Robinson Phone/fax: 011+ 61+ 2+ 9546 4350 Independent Midwife Practitioner e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8 Robin Crescent www: midwiferyeducation.com.au South Hurstville NSW 2221 National Coordinator, ASIM __ -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] see you guys!
Dear Jo, I'm glad to hear that you will still be involved in cares, although it saddens that you will be calling it a day. However, time out to re-energise, look after yourself and your family is important. Sometimes you have to put other things first. Sometimes, new blood with fresh energy is needed while others recharge their batteries. I'm absolutely certain that you would have made a difference for many women's lives. Making a difference is something to be very proud of and something that you can carry with you always. We will miss you here on the list. I'll keep happily referring tassie women to cares and birthrites as usual. The women love the fact that these are Oz sites and not american! I really look forward to hearing from you with feedback about the VBAC package that I put together for tassie women wanting a VBAC. cheers kathy - Original Message - From: Jo Dean Bainbridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 10:46 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] see you guys! well, after all these years of putting the cat amongst the pigeons and jumping up on my soap box I am calling it a day! I bet most of you who know me never thought the day would come (and know that many others have been praying for it to come LOL). I am still committed to CARES SA but looked around my house the other day and there is a six year old, a four year old and a two year oldI cant quite remember tem getting to those agestime to let go of some things. I will remain interested in VBAC and cs stuff, so if anyone wants to get hold of me just go to the CARES web site: www.cares-sa.org.au I will cease my subscription tomorrow in case anyone needs me for anything. National Caesarean Awareness Day people, please keep in touch with what you are doing...I am hoping that if we can keep record of events we maybe able to get sponsorship for the future. Can I ask that anyone who is doing anything for NCAD and requires logos or the philosophies/goals/aims etc, please again visit the CARES web site. The NCAD was initiated by CARES and we must maintain the appropriate 'feel'...it is not anti cs and should never be used to make full frontal attacks...subtle attacks in the guise of education and informed choices etc are always more successful. As I am suffering a phantom post birth brain ...every 2nd August for the last 6 years I have birthed...until this one :( I have forgotten the name of the midwife in Tassie who sent me the wonderful VBAC kit that she is involved with.I am so sorry, your name will pop into my head as soon as I send this... CAN I JUST SAY THAT WHAT YOU HAVE DONE IS WONDERFUL AND I WILL BE GETTING BACK TO YOU WITH SOME FEEDBACK SOON. I have lots happening at the moment and every time that gets almost on the top of my to do list something else jumps on top of it. But I will be getting back to you. SOON!!! Once again, thank you to all who have answered my many questions, who have shared with me their knowledge...I am in awe of you all and hold you in the highest admiration. Knowing that there are care providers who still hold the common goal of helping women achieve the most positive births is a welcoming thought! I will unsubscribe tomorrow. Cheers for the last time! JO Jo Bainbridge founding member CARES SA www.cares-sa.org.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 08 8388 6918 birth with trust, faith love... -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] questions about care options in sydney
Hi Jo Welcome to Sunny Sydney :-) You are posing excellent questions prior to making your decision. I would recommend posing these questions in person with the relevant managers of each of the birth centres in the south eastern Sydney area health service. King George is now known as Royal Prince Alfred Hospital and the direct line to the birth centre there is 9515 5284 located at Missenden Rd, Camperdown. Royal Hospital for Women is 9382 6116 located at Barker Street Randwick. St George Hospital Birth centre is 9350 3103 located at Belgrave Street Kogarah. I'd suggest visiting and talking with the midwives at all 3 birth centres for a truly informed decision making process. For Independent midwives working in the Eastern suburbs I'd recommend telephoning Jan Robinson on 9546 4350 and Betty Vella on 9540 4992 and Robyn Dempsey on 9888 7829 and Akal Khalsa 9660 2127 Hope this information assists you. Julie Clarke CBE Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood Sessions 9 Withybrook Place Sylvania NSW 2224 T. (02) 9544 6441 Mobile: 0401 265530 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jo Bourne Sent: Tuesday, 2 September 2003 11:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] questions about care options in sydney Hi, I am fairly new to this list, I hope that this is the right place to be asking these questions. I had my first child 18 months ago in Adelaide, at the Birth Centre at the QEH. We received truly excellent care throughout my pregnancy, the birth and with breastfeeding problems afterwards, I wouldn't hesitate to go back but we are now living in Sydney. I am not yet pregnant but I am feeling anxious to know what my options are and a girlfriend who lives round the corner has just found out she is pregnant so we have decided to explore all the options available to us together. I would like to know: 1) is there a publicly funded caseload/continuity of care program running anywhere in sydney? 2) is there any publicly funded homebirth otpion available in sydney? 3) where do I find a list of independent midwives working in the eastern suburbs? 4) does the RWH birth centre allow you to book as a private patient under the care of an independant midwife? If so is there a limited list of midwives who have admitting rights? The same questions for the KGV birth centre actually. 5) where can I find out stats on the birth centres at Randwick and KGV such as transfer out rates (before and during labour), intervention rates for transfered women and also any policies I am likely to want to know about (for example do they have policies regarding active management of 3rd state, water birth, breech, twins, vbac, time limits, etc). 6) who is the right person to contact in order to make a time to see the RWH and KGV birth centres and talk in person about their philosophies and policies? 7) I would also like to make a shortlist of good OBs should one become necessary so anyone on this list who is able to recommend an OB practicing preferably at RWH/POWP, but anywhere in sydney would do, who is very supportive of natural birth and is for example homebirth friendly and experienced with vaginal breech, please let me know. I would also be very grateful for warnings of anyone to particularly steer clear of. If you prefer to answer this last question privately (or any of the questions really) please feel free to email me directly. thanks so much! Jo -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] HOMEBIRTH INFORMATION
I'm sure there are lay/traditional midwives out there assisting women. We're always really careful to promote attended homebirth and only refer women to midwives who are registered, however I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to find some traditional midwives, if that's what a woman is seeking. Jo - Original Message - From: Barbara Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 7:55 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] HOMEBIRTH INFORMATION might this include unregistered midwives? Barbara --- Denise Hynd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Jan I am sure this applies in every state Go for it Denise - Original Message - From: Jan Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 3:25 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] HOMEBIRTH INFORMATION Dear ozmid subscribers If anyone has first-hand knowledge of any adverse or 'near miss' outcomes from any PLANNED UNATTENDED HOMEBIRTHS please send it to me privately. There seems to be at least twice the number of unattended homebirths occurring in NSW than those attended by registered midwives. Any information forwarded will be treated confidentially (your names will not be published) but accurate information of cases will be compiled in a list of 'horror stories' that ASIM will use to try and fast-track the funding of homebirths in NSW. Every woman deserves her own midwife free of charge. Thanks in anticipation Jan __ Jan Robinson Phone/fax: 011+ 61+ 2+ 9546 4350 Independent Midwife Practitioner e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8 Robin Crescent www: midwiferyeducation.com.au South Hurstville NSW 2221 National Coordinator, ASIM __ -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. http://search.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Search - Looking for more? Try the new Yahoo! Search -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] solids for 11mth old
My third son was fully breastfed at 13+ months, he just refused to eat. I think his first food was sucking a lamb chop bone, now at 21 months he eats a range of foods including breastmilk. The best thing was I didn't have to prepare baby food, and he did his jaw excercises (development stuff)munching on a toy or something. I was able to go by my own instincts on what he ate,with the first two boysI listened to others and their expert opinions, but like minded friends are a good source of information. I did know someone who introduced solids working ona philosophy about the first food being from highest off the ground and ending up with that which grows closest, such as grains etc, but don't know much more than that. If she has gone this long without too much worry then she is probably doing really well Megan -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, 1 September 2003 10:50To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ozmidwifery] solids for 11mth old a mother who is fully b/f her baby on demand at 11 months is asking me why her daughter has to have food? I chatted about fe oral experiences teeth social and food experiences. the mother would like a ref for introducing solids that are organic and wheat and diary free any good info or web sites etc jan
RE: [ozmidwifery] Co - sleeping!!!
We watched the show, not too bad for ACA, but I don't think a few mins really does it any justice. Most think your mad, and its not about suffication of baby, more about the old "rod for yourback" syndrome. I got the best wakeup hug this morning form my bed buddy, a "rod" I have gotten very used to. Megan -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Pinky McKaySent: Tuesday, 2 September 2003 11:27To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ozmidwifery] Co - sleeping!!! Hi all, have just had a call from A Current affair - my co-sleeping interview is on tonight!!! Fingers crossed it is a positive -the "other side" is a forensic professor from Adelaide. Two mums had cameras placed in their bedrooms overnight - brave women! Pinky
Re: [ozmidwifery] Co - sleeping!!!
Hi Megan - a lovely wee "rod" by the sounds -Interesting hpw they cut and dramatise when you know what was said and how they have split sentences etc - I actually was "chopped" mid sentence when I said "there are no risks" I actually added "whenthere is a safe sleeping environment". I have a facts sheet on the ACA website - safe co-sleeping (seeing they were banging on about risks Ithought Id try for a second bite of the cherry!) -this facts sheet links to my site - and a list of co-sleeping links!!! The lovely Chinese mum was my daughter's unihousemate. Pinky - Original Message - From: Larry Megan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 11:13 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Co - sleeping!!! We watched the show, not too bad for ACA, but I don't think a few mins really does it any justice. Most think your mad, and its not about suffication of baby, more about the old "rod for yourback" syndrome. I got the best wakeup hug this morning form my bed buddy, a "rod" I have gotten very used to. Megan -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Pinky McKaySent: Tuesday, 2 September 2003 11:27To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ozmidwifery] Co - sleeping!!! Hi all, have just had a call from A Current affair - my co-sleeping interview is on tonight!!! Fingers crossed it is a positive -the "other side" is a forensic professor from Adelaide. Two mums had cameras placed in their bedrooms overnight - brave women! Pinky
Re: [ozmidwifery] see you guys!
Dear Jo - thank you for your valuable contribution to the ozmid list. Have a good 'break'... kind regards, Lois Wattis - Original Message - From: Jo Dean Bainbridge To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:46 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] see you guys! well, after all these years of putting the cat amongst the pigeons and jumping up on my soap box I am calling it a day! I bet most of you who know me never thought the day would come (and know that many others have been praying for it to come LOL). I am still committed to CARES SA but looked around my house the other day and there is a six year old, a four year old and a two year oldI cant quite remember tem getting to those agestime to let go of some things. I will remain interested in VBAC and cs stuff, so if anyone wants to get hold of me just go to the CARES web site: www.cares-sa.org.au I will cease my subscription tomorrow in case anyone needs me for anything. National Caesarean Awareness Day people, please keep in touch with what you are doing...I am hoping that if we can keep record of events we maybe able to get sponsorship for the future. Can I ask that anyone who is doing anything for NCAD and requires logos or the philosophies/goals/aims etc, please again visit the CARES web site. The NCAD was initiated by CARES and we must maintain the appropriate 'feel'...it is not anti cs and should never be used to make full frontal attacks...subtle attacks in the guise of "education and informed choices" etc are always more successful. As I am suffering a phantom post birth brain ...every 2nd August for the last 6 yearsI have birthed...until this one :( I have forgotten the name of the midwife in Tassie who sent me the wonderful VBAC kit that she is involved with.I am so sorry, your name will pop into my head as soon as I send this... CAN I JUST SAY THAT WHAT YOU HAVE DONE IS WONDERFUL AND I WILL BE GETTING BACK TO YOU WITH SOME FEEDBACK SOON. I have lots happening at the moment and every time that gets almost on the top of my to do list something else jumps on top of it. But I will be getting back to you. SOON!!! Once again, thank you to all who have answered my many questions, who have shared with me their knowledge...I am in awe of you all and hold you in the highest admiration.Knowing that there are care providers who still hold the common goal of helping women achieve the most positive births is a welcoming thought! I will unsubscribe tomorrow. Cheers for the last time! JO Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAwww.cares-sa.org.au[EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08 8388 6918birth with trust, faith love...
Re: [ozmidwifery] solids for 11mth old
Hi Ronda, i beg to differ - actually some babies wont touch solids despite them being available -my daughter (now 23 and a healthy vegetarian who has no eating disorders or food fusses and didnt as a child)had two siblings to copy and was always at the table on my lap at mealsand offered food -this baby wouldreach for a toy and chew on itbut refused any offer of solids until 11 months.She had been a colicky baby who reacted to foods - particularly citrus in my diet up to 6 months so I surmised she was possibly allergic -yet at the later age she didnt react or refuse any foods once she started to gradually eat. Ihave known lots of babies within La Leche League (I was a group leader for 14 years) who took solidsmuch later (in the second half of their first year) and only ever saw one who showed signs of lethargy -this bub had a vegan mum and after the mum had B12 injections the baby remarkably became energised and crawled etc within days. All the other bubs who started foods later were healthy happy kids and didnt have any food fights or fussiness as toddlers-I think the parents attitude (ie forcing)creates more eating problems since it can be more of a power reaction/ battle. When we are relaxed and following the baby's lead - whether it be with eating or sleeping etc - we avoid battles over such natural functions. I do agree though that good old fruit and veges would be a great start. Pinky - Original Message - From: Rhonda To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 11:47 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] solids for 11mth old What ever happened to good old vegetables and fruit? Mashed Vegi's and stewed fruit would be a good start - I used to pressure cook the vegi's - use the juice to mash them and then cool what was left of the juice as a very healthy drink - my babies loved it. Also mention if left too long to introduce new tastes and experiences,itmay cause eating problems, digestive problemsand eating disorders. My 4 yr old boy started on mashed vegi's at about 6 - 7 months now loves broccoli and peas and my daughter started eating a little younger and at nine she eats anything - asparagus, brussel sprouts, pumpkin, salad, letuce, celery, tomatoes - not so keen on lollies. She was prem and started solids at a corrected 3 months, actual 6 months and has absolutely no dietary or eating problems. My son was full term and is so fussy compared to her but still pinches the broccoli off everyone elses plate, have to eat quick or he gets it. LOL. From about 6 to 8 months they do need to introduce some foodeven if it is just one spoon a day - it is important to start with something. Rhonda. ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, 01 September 2003 11:25:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] solids for 11mth old a mother who is fully b/f her baby on demand at 11 months is asking me why her daughter has to have food? I chatted about fe oral experiences teeth social and food experiences. the mother would like a ref for introducing solids that are organic and wheat and diary free any good info or web sites etc jan IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here image/gif
