Re: [ozmidwifery] full moon
Dear Kerreen, Here is one: The Christmas Effect and Other Biometeorologic Influences on Childbearing and the Health of Women Sandra K. Cesario, RNC, PhD J Obstet Gynecol Neonatal Nurs 2002 31: 526-535 Objective: To review the body of literature addressing biometeorologic and chronobiologic effects on conception, pregnancy, parturition, and other health conditions. Data Sources: Computerized searches of MEDLINE, PUBMED, CINAHL, and the World Wide Web. Study Selection: Studies, including international research, dating from 1938 to 2001. Data Extraction: Data were extracted and information organized under the following categories: influence of leisure time and seasonality on the rate of conception and birth, the relationship of meteorologic changes and lunar cycles to childbearing, the Christmas Effect and its impact on other health outcomes, and nursing implications. Data Synthesis: Research from the disciplines of biometeorology and chronobiology indicates that there are patterns in the occurrence of conception, pregnancy, and onset of labor that vary in timing and amplitude in different populations and geographic regions. Consideration of these factors should be included in the analysis of birth data when planning and providing maternity care. The Christmas Effect is one of the most predominant seasonal patterns that can be seen in birth data throughout the world. Conclusions: Biometeorologic and other cyclic phenomena are underused in the United States in planning and providing maternity care. These phenomena warrant consideration when planning holistic health care. Let me know if you are having problems accessing the full text. Take care Alphia At 04:34 PM 15/11/2005, Kerreen Reiger wrote: Hi all Does any one have information on actual studies of the effect of the full moon on birth? I've heard anecdotally that more babies arrive then etc, and searched google which produced snippets relating to the tides. Any other comments from you wise people? (I am in New York with my daughter awaiting a baby taking its time to arrive and the full moon is tomorrow! She's booked with a midwife at a birth centre and hopes not to be induced at the end of the week!) cheers Kerreen Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584
Re: [ozmidwifery] Kathleen Fahy article in Weekend Australian...
Here is a copy of it. take care Alphia August 20, 2005 Saturday Travel Edition SECTION: REVIEW; Health; Pg. 29 LENGTH: 891 words HEADLINE: Midwifery is safe, and access a right SOURCE: MATP BYLINE: KATHLEEN FAHY BODY: ALICIA (not her real name) wanted to give birth in a private and safe environment attended by a known midwife. She is young and healthy. This makes her an ideal candidate for one-to-one midwifery care where a known midwife provides all maternity care for Alicia and her family. Midwives are qualified and licensed to provide antenatal, labour and post-birth care on their own responsibility. Normal, healthy women who have straightforward pregnancies do not need to be under the care of doctors. But Alicia and her partner, Paul, couldn't find a midwife to provide her care either at home or in a hospital. Why not? Because women who want to claim maternity care as a Medicare rebate must use a doctor. Thanks to this monopoly, virtually all pregnancies are managed by doctors, even though this is completely unnecessary. Another reason that Alicia couldn't hire a midwife is that midwives have been excluded from the network of taxpayer subsidies and safety nets provided by the federal Government for doctors' professional indemnity cover. The issue of Medicare rebates and indemnity insurance cover for midwives are matters of professional competition. It can be safely predicted that doctors will resist midwives being given access to Medicare. Doctors will claim, or imply, that somehow midwives are unsafe. As a midwifery researcher, however, I know that midwifery care is safe, and I know doctors cannot produce research evidence from randomised controlled trials to the contrary. Why did Alice and Paul want a midwife as their maternity care provider? According to them, it was because they wanted to feel in control of what happened to Alicia and the baby. They disagreed with the medical model of birth that thinks in terms of the bodies of women and babies. In the medical metaphor, the womb, pelvis and baby are thought of as either inert or mechanical. For doctors, the body is thought of as able to function independently of the brains and emotions of women and babies; but Alicia knows that this is not true. Alicia and her partner understand that giving birth is a deeply private, even a sexual function. That is why other primates birth in private. The medicalised environment is full of strangers who come and go and touch the woman. The birth environment that medicine creates is dominated by stainless steel, artificial light, airconditioning, hard floors, surgical lights and a hospital bed with a rubber-covered mattress. Machines are frequently attached to the woman to constantly monitor the baby's heart. This immediately suggests that maybe something is or will go wrong in a perfectly normal process; thus fear is created. In this environment, the woman needs to lie still so the machines that are attached to her work well. Not surprisingly, the woman becomes uncomfortable, is fearful of strangers and fearful for the baby, she is scared to make a noise and scared to make trouble. Women cope by using an epidural anaesthetic to block sensation below the waist. The outcome of such labours is frequently complications for the woman and the baby (BMJ 2000;321:137-141). Women who have surgical interventions and who don't get to actually give birth have higher rates of depression, guilt, regret, loss of self-esteem, feelings of violation, and dissatisfaction with care -- sometimes to the point of outright hostility. Midwives pay a lot of attention to creating the right environment for birth. It is crucial to understand that birthing where the woman and midwife know each other helps the women feel emotionally safe enough to be uninhibited in labour. When women choose to birth unaided they usually experience a great sense of their own strength and empowerment. Labouring without feeling safe is like driving a car with one foot on the pedal and one on the brake; thus fear leads to prolonged labour and unnecessary medical interventions. Fear is damaging to labour because adrenalin is produced and that disrupts the normal hormonal regulation of the process. Is midwifery care safe? Should the government allow access to Medicare for midwifery managed birth? Yes, absolutely! All women are entitled to financial support to cover the costs of childbirth and doctors shouldn't have a government-mandated monopoly. In terms of safety, the research demonstrates that midwifery-managed care, for women who are healthy and have straightforward pregnancies, there is no statistically significant difference in the outcomes for the babies. Research shows, however, that midwifery-managed birth is safer for women than birth under the direction of doctors (Cochrane, 2001, 2005). The Australian Medical Association and the Royal Australian College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists both oppose independent occupational status for midwives
[ozmidwifery] in need of contact details
Hi everyone, I hope that everyone is well. I was hoping that someone could help me out with some contact details (email if possible) I need. I am currently organizing a workshop and need contact details for the following individuals: Carol Fallows Sue Kildea Jenny Parratt Cherrell Hirst and Carolyn Hastie. I know that some of you are on the list if you could contact me off of list I can provide you with further details. Sorry to be a pain Thanks and take care Alphia Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584
Re: [ozmidwifery] Media
Hope this is of help: Lupton, D. and J. McLean (1998). Representing doctors: Discourses and images in the Australian press. Social Science Medicine 46(8): 947. Lupton, D. (1998). Doctors in the News Media: Lay and Medical Audiences' Responses. Journal of Sociology 34(1): 35-48. Lay, M. M., Gurak, L.J., Gravon, C., Myntii, C., Ed. (2000). Body Talk: Rhetoric, Technology, Reproduction. Wisconsin, University of Wisconsin Press. There are some good chapters in this. Take care Alphia Each society has its own consensual understanding of birth its determinants: caregivers, location, participants, loci of decision making, which in the Western world are based on biomedical knowledge. However, two competing cultural models of childbirth, the biomedical/technocratic model natural/holistic model, mediate women's choices preferences for the place caregiver in childbirth. This article explores the way in which these cultural models of birth the existing practical possibilities for choices shape women's men's understanding of home birth. Based on interviews with 21 Finnish women 12 Finnish men, the reasons for experiences of planning building toward a home birth are examined through an analysis of birth narratives. The analysis focuses especially on the women's definitions of what is natural their relationship with health services where biomedical practices knowledge are the norm. The analysis shows that the notion of natural birth holds various meanings in Finnish women's narratives namely self-determination, control, trust in one's intuition. I seek to demonstrate that just as the biomedical management of childbirth exhibits distinct cross-cultural variation, so also does resistance to biomedical hegemony, as such resistance is strongly embedded in the local sociocultural situation. 41 References. Adapted from the source document. Reports of incidents and issues related to members of the medical profession and the practice of medicine often feature in the western news media. Such intense coverage has incited the interest of both medical sociologists and members of the profession themselves. Thus far, however, very few detailed studies addressing the tenor of news reporting on the medical profession have been published, particularly in relation to the Australian media. At 05:49 PM 4/06/2005, you wrote: Hi everyone I am wondering if anyone has any articles or references that could help with how the media influences women's perceptions of childbirth and pregnancy?? I am doing a seminar presentation for uni, and have some articles (10) at this stage, but searching the databases last night did not prove to be very forthcoming with articles. Thanks Katrina -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584
RE: [ozmidwifery] Media
Another media one that is quite good: Tsing, A. (1990). Monster stories: women charges with perinatal endangerment. Uncertain Terms: Negotiating Gender in American Culture. F. Ginsburg, Tsing. A. Boston, MA., Beacon Press. Alphia
[ozmidwifery] media
Sorry about the blurb on the bottom of my previous email - When I copy and pasted information from my End Note program that came along with it! Take care Alphia Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584
[ozmidwifery] one last one
Sorry for giving this information in dribs and drabs - but there are many articles that deal with the impact of media and health - I am trying to make them relevant specifically to women's health and reproductive issues. Following is an article from an Australian researcher into media and women's health - if you go to the bibliography you will find some good references in there as well. Shugg, J. and P. Liamputtong (2002). Being Female: The Portrayal of Women's Health in Print Media. Health care for Women International 23(6-7): 715-728. Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584
Re: [ozmidwifery] returning to list
I hope I didnt come across the wrong way - Lets just say i have mind burnout - but I totally agree with you Pinky! I think in essence we are really talking about the same thing. Have to go and teach Take care everyone Alphia At 09:32 PM 14/03/2005, you wrote: Dear Pinky I and many others on this list do not feel you are making tnuous links as we also make them. there is a saying Peace at Birth Pece on Earth and I make that big leap every If we can se our kids as som-one that we need to fear why should this not extend to others in our culture who make demands on us for understanding. If we can put our children as babies away with strangers why not ignore or lock up other vulnerable demanding people particualary those who do not show deference to us our values like those who live outiside our understanding, who break our rules and valuesoe even the mentally ill, refugees etc. Big picture leaper!! Denise Hynd Let us support one another, not just in philosophy but in action, for the sake of freedom for all women to choose exactly how and by whom, if by anyone, our bodies will be handled. Linda Hes - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 8:29 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] returning to list Alphia, Thanks, I will look forward to seeing your article when it is published - I guess what Im talking about is this medical model/ handing over of power from pregnancy/ birth extending into the mothering experience making it all an unecessary struggle to do things the 'right' way (as the book/ Dr/ expert says), with so much fear attached, whether its birth, breastfeeding (I am seeing lots of stuffups here and lots of formula comps which seem to be related to a lack of trust in womans bodies), infant sleep/ behaviour issues and so it goes on -Having my 5th child becoming a teenager (the others are all adults), I am seeing increasing numbers of parents scared of their kids at this age - and letting themselves be bullied by the kids -I wonder if this is a long term lack of confidence about doing the 'right' thing? Is this all tied together somehow? Maybe Im getting carried away, here , making tenuous links between my frustrations? Pinky - From: Alphia Possamai-Inesedy To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] returning to list Pinky, I know what you mean about that frustrated feeling. Although I have been coming at this from a different angle than many on the list. I am not a practicing midwife, I am just finishing my PhD in the area of sociology of health. I was trying to understand exactly what you are speaking about - yet in relation to an active engagement with the medical model during pregnancy and birth. I was questioning why so many women felt that they were doing the most responsible thing for their baby and themselves by employing the medical model - some not only employing but completely embracing. I did my field work with over 50 women from a range of backgrounds (all of my mothers are wonderful and all of their stories emotional - but I had some wonderful home birth stories). They too regarded pregnancy as a reading assignment and often discussed their pregnancy and birth in medical terms. I wont bore you with my theoretical approach - but I found - as you say, that there is so much there to undermine a woman and her trust in her body. That combining aspects such as the public surveillance of the pregnant woman, the medicalized discourse that surrounds pregnancy and birth in the media, the notion of the female faulty body which we are socialized into, the increase of technology etc. leads many women to think that this is one of the most risky passages of their lives. Which is a paradox of course! I am about to publish an article on my central ideas - I think the article will make a whole lot more sense than what I just said! Anyway, I wish all of the passionate women on this list all of the strength and energy that is needed to counteract this wave of disempowerment that so many women feel during this time of their life. (I have a habit of being corny!) Take care Alphia At 10:38 AM 15/03/2005, you wrote: Hi Alphia - if I could just work that out, maybe I wouldnt feel so frustrated. It doesn't take a whole lot of support/ feedback to help a new mother feel confident that she can handle her baby and her new life - her way! Yet there seems so much to undermine her and the tide againt trusting herself is very strong. For instance, I am constantly amazed at how much reading women do - I have had mothers quote verbatim from 'experts' -invariably men who dont experience hormones/ breasts/bellies or 24 hour care and responsibility no matter how wellmeant/ caring, their advice. It seems in many cases the reading cant be 'smoothed' to fit the woman and her baby, but rather she struggles to either make her baby fit the model
Re: [ozmidwifery] returning to list
Dear Pinky and Kerreen, Pinky, I totally agree with you - but shouldnt we be questioning then why so many mothers do this? What is at the base of it. By the way Kerreen - I have read your book and thoroughly enjoyed it - it is such a valuable piece of research that is providing to the public insight which would have otherwise been lost. I have enjoyed the voices of your respondents very much. The voices of your obstetricians provide us with a glimpse of the power relations that existed in the different time periods that you examined - and although many feel that we haven't come very far - your book demonstrates how far we have actually come (not that I want to gloss over the many problems that current maternity practices are facing). Take care everyone Alphia At 10:21 AM 12/03/2005, you wrote: Hello Kerreen, Re professional dominance of mothering - I absolutely agree - this isnt just about the baby, although that is bad enough, but when mothers surrender their power to professional domination, they are set back in so many ways - for the longer term- so that what should be an empowering and delightful experience is thwart with angst, fear and dissatisfaction. I am going to respond to this article. Pinky - Original Message - From: Kerreen Reiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 5:31 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] returning to list Hi all I am finally returning to the list after a long absence due to work commitments. Already I am glad to be back, eg in light of this discussion about babies' settling/crying. For those who don't already know me, I am a founder of Maternity Coalition and a social scientist/historian who's worked on maternity care issues for many years. I'm now studying working relationships in maternity care settings and a paper at ICM will be the first out on this research. Some details of my last book are below for those interested, including discount sales. I have both a longstanding professional and strong personal interest in relationships between professionals and mothers. What bothers me about return of emphasis on regimentation of babies is not only the neglect of bubs' variability but further professional dominance of mothering. We have two new babies in our family (my first g'children!) and within a few weeks I saw the impact of lousy professional advice on b'feeding and management, but also some excellent support that encouraged my daughter-in -law to feel that she was the 'expert' on her baby! How we ensure this across midwifery and maternal, child nursing remains the challenge it seems. Who is actually contesting this article in the MJA or the press? Thanks for drawing our attention to it. cheers Kerreen About Our Bodies Our Babies: the forgotten women's movement: In Our Bodies, Our Babies: the forgotten women's movement, Kerreen Reiger traces the struggle of Australian women and others to change approaches to childbirth, to claim their right to choices in childbirth, and to educate themselves about birth and breastfeeding. She explores a social movement which has radically changed our maternity care practices, allowing fathers to participate in the birth of their children and babies to 'room-in' with their mothers. It laid the foundation for new models of care such as birth centres. The book draws on interviews with mothers, midwives and doctors, and on archival material from women's organisations such as the Nursing Mothers' Association of Australia (NMAA) and the Childbirth Education Association. It discusses the relevance of the childbirth and the breastfeeding movements to feminism and women's rights, arguing that the needs of mothers as citizens need to be taken more seriously. Our Bodies, Our Babies is essential reading for all health professionals involved in maternity care Discounted copies now available at $15 (originally $38.95) plus postage: please contact me for an order form. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584
Re: [ozmidwifery] returning to list
Pinky, I know what you mean about that frustrated feeling. Although I have been coming at this from a different angle than many on the list. I am not a practicing midwife, I am just finishing my PhD in the area of sociology of health. I was trying to understand exactly what you are speaking about - yet in relation to an active engagement with the medical model during pregnancy and birth. I was questioning why so many women felt that they were doing the most responsible thing for their baby and themselves by employing the medical model - some not only employing but completely embracing. I did my field work with over 50 women from a range of backgrounds (all of my mothers are wonderful and all of their stories emotional - but I had some wonderful home birth stories). They too regarded pregnancy as a reading assignment and often discussed their pregnancy and birth in medical terms. I wont bore you with my theoretical approach - but I found - as you say, that there is so much there to undermine a woman and her trust in her body. That combining aspects such as the public surveillance of the pregnant woman, the medicalized discourse that surrounds pregnancy and birth in the media, the notion of the female faulty body which we are socialized into, the increase of technology etc. leads many women to think that this is one of the most risky passages of their lives. Which is a paradox of course! I am about to publish an article on my central ideas - I think the article will make a whole lot more sense than what I just said! Anyway, I wish all of the passionate women on this list all of the strength and energy that is needed to counteract this wave of disempowerment that so many women feel during this time of their life. (I have a habit of being corny!) Take care Alphia At 10:38 AM 15/03/2005, you wrote: Hi Alphia - if I could just work that out, maybe I wouldnt feel so frustrated. It doesn't take a whole lot of support/ feedback to help a new mother feel confident that she can handle her baby and her new life - her way! Yet there seems so much to undermine her and the tide againt trusting herself is very strong. For instance, I am constantly amazed at how much reading women do - I have had mothers quote verbatim from 'experts' -invariably men who dont experience hormones/ breasts/bellies or 24 hour care and responsibility no matter how wellmeant/ caring, their advice. It seems in many cases the reading cant be 'smoothed' to fit the woman and her baby, but rather she struggles to either make her baby fit the model, or strives herself to live up to unrealistic images of perfection. I feel sad that birthing/ mothering in so many cases is an academic exercise (head stuff), not a more relaxed, experiential sharing between women - mothers and midwives -from the heart. Pinky - Original Message - From: Alphia Possamai-Inesedy To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] returning to list Dear Pinky and Kerreen, Pinky, I totally agree with you - but shouldnt we be questioning then why so many mothers do this? What is at the base of it. By the way Kerreen - I have read your book and thoroughly enjoyed it - it is such a valuable piece of research that is providing to the public insight which would have otherwise been lost. I have enjoyed the voices of your respondents very much. The voices of your obstetricians provide us with a glimpse of the power relations that existed in the different time periods that you examined - and although many feel that we haven't come very far - your book demonstrates how far we have actually come (not that I want to gloss over the many problems that current maternity practices are facing). Take care everyone Alphia At 10:21 AM 12/03/2005, you wrote: Hello Kerreen, Re professional dominance of mothering - I absolutely agree - this isnt just about the baby, although that is bad enough, but when mothers surrender their power to professional domination, they are set back in so many ways - for the longer term- so that what should be an empowering and delightful experience is thwart with angst, fear and dissatisfaction. I am going to respond to this article. Pinky - Original Message - From: Kerreen Reiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 5:31 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] returning to list Hi all I am finally returning to the list after a long absence due to work commitments. Already I am glad to be back, eg in light of this discussion about babies' settling/crying. For those who don't already know me, I am a founder of Maternity Coalition and a social scientist/historian who's worked on maternity care issues for many years. I'm now studying working relationships in maternity care settings and a paper at ICM will be the first out on this research. Some details of my last book are below for those interested, including discount sales. I have both
[ozmidwifery] Fwd: [REPRONETWORK] maternal depression
I was wondering if any of you wonderful women out there might be of use for this request. Thank you for your time Take care Alphia ReproNetworkers -- I am looking for some helpful references on maternal depression, especially recent ones that include evaluation of medications commonly given for postpartum depression. My daughter is presently caught in a very bad bout and I am with her and without my books and journals. We've looked at the web sites of Postpartum Support International, Depression After Delivery, and The Postpartum Stress Center - Treatment for Postpartum Depression, and they have been helpful, but I would like to read some medical or med/soc literature if it is out there. Thanks so much -- Janet Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584
Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: [MCVic] spiritual needs in pregnancy
Dear Nicole, Here are two references which are from a nursing perspective - there has been some work done by theologians, anthropologists as well as sociologists. I hope that this is of help and sorry for the delay in getting this to you - It seems the last 3 months have gone by in a flash - I cant believe it is almost Christmas. take care Alphia Cultural Perceptions of Childbirth: A Cross-Cultural Comparison of Childbearing Women AU: Callister, Lynn Clark; Vehvilainen-Julkunen, Katri; Lauri, Sirkka SO: Journal of Holistic Nursing, 1996, 14, 1, Mar, 66-78 Cultural and spiritual meanings of childbirth Lynn Clark Callister, Sonia Semenic, Joyce Cameron Foster. Journal of Holistic Nursing. Springfield: Sep 1999.Vol.17, Iss. 3; pg. 280, 16 pgs At 02:03 AM 30/11/2004, you wrote: Hi nicole: I couldn't resist doing a quick search on Pubmed using the terms pregnancy AND spiritual needs I came up with 3 journal articles which do appear to be commentories and also all more than 10 years old. The web site is: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi and it is free. I then entered: pregnancy AND spirituality and got 37 hits with a few research articles at the very top. If you can't get into pubmed I can make a copy of the list of articles for you. You may need to expand the definition of research to include action research and various psychological and sociological research methodologies: you wont find any RCT's. marilyn Original Message - From: Nicole Carver To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: ozmid Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 2:32 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: [MCVic] spiritual needs in pregnancy Sorry guys, I meant haven't been able to find articles about spiritual needs. There's plenty about the other two. Nicole. - Original Message - From: Nicole Carver To: ozmid ; Maternity Coalition Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 9:30 PM Subject: [MCVic] spiritual needs in pregnancy Hi all, I am writing a thesis at the moment about women's needs in pregnancy. I am looking at physical, emotional and spiritual needs. I have not been able to find any research articles, only commentary on the subject. Can anyone point me towards some original research on this topic? Thanks, Nicole Carver. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/MCVic/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584
Re: [ozmidwifery] LUDICROUS! Fw: Joyous Birth if this doesn't make you write a letter nothing will!
I am not clear where this was sourced from - can you help me out? At 08:45 PM 22/09/2004, you wrote: You have got to read thismy favourite part is where he says, Home is the most dangerous place to have a baby. My mind is running trying to figure out where to start with this bunch of BS!! Of course, it would be a male OB!!! When will they learn. - Original Message - From: Janet Fraser To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 7:19 PM Subject: Joyous Birth if this doesn't make you write a letter nothing will! The Editor The Weekly Times P O Box 14999 Melbourne 3001 Tel: 9292 1584 Fax: (03) 9292 2697 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Letters must be short and may be edited for space and legal reasons. Names and addresses must be included MIDWIFE-ONLY PLAN IS A BABY GAMBLE Replacing obstetricians with midwives will not fix the lack of birthing services in the country, argues, DR PIETER MOURIK Does the Vic Govt really believe its plans to set up midwife-led maternity units will relieve the shortage of rural obstetricians?There is no question midwives are recognised as skilled professionals who do a great job caring for women in labour. However they are not trained to deal with complications beyond their experience or expertise. This is where an obstetrician is required to attend the labour ward and take over the delivery. A normal delivery does not need an obstetrician in the labour ward, but most women want to have the security that the most experienced person is making the decisions and is immediately available. Seconds can make the difference between a happy and successful outcome and a disaster. The silent majority of midwives continue to support the concept of team midwifery with obstetricians. The vocal minority of midwives, who say they can do without obstetricians, and who claim they are cheaper as they do not induce labour or perform instrumental deliveries or caesareans, are deluding themselves, the public and the Govt. they are not comparing apples with apples. Midwives purposefully select heatlhy women with low risks and transfer those who do not deliver spontaneously to an obstetrician, so their statistics of successful outcomes are good. Women selected as low risk for a midwife delivery are not no risk, as 30 per cent develop problems during the pregnancy or in labour and have to be transferred to an obstetrician. No midwife can guarantee to a pregnant woman she can complete the job, while an obstetrician can always complete the delivery and deal with complications that may occur. That is the difference. The 0.2 per cent of women in Vic who choose to deliver at home take increased risks to themselves and their babies and should be informed of that fact by the midwife caring for them. Home is the most dangerous place to have a baby. The best compromise is to deliver in a birthing unit at a hospital. Patients can have the best of both worlds where midwives work in collaboration with obstetricians, not in competition. Unfortunately, the vocal minority of independent midwives seem to have positions of influence and have convinced the Govt their wishes are what the majority of midwives and women want, when this is not true. These midwives should do what two of our local midwives have done: apply to medical school, complete six years of training then complete another six years to be a qualified obstetrician. They would be most welcome, particularly in rural centres, to help reverse the decline in the number of doctors willing to deliver babies. *PETER MOURIK HAS BEEN A CONSULTANT OBSTETRICIAN IN WODONGA FOR 25 YEARS AND IS CHAIRMAN OF THE WODONGA OBSTETRIC SUB-COMMITTEE. Every woman and every baby and every family have the right to Joyous Birth! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/joyousbirth/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584
Re: [ozmidwifery] LUDICROUS! Fw: Joyous Birth if this doesn't make you write a letter nothing will!
Yes thank you - that is perfect. Take care Alphia At 09:54 AM 23/09/2004, you wrote: I am not clear where this was sourced from - can you help me out? The letter was published in The Weekly Times in Melbourne. I recieved the email on the Joyous Birth list and forwarded it on. Is that the info you wanted? Love Abby Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584
Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: [BirthRage] controlling delivery pt 1
Thanks for this Abby, Much of my research centers on this very thing. I did interview many women who chose to birth through a private institution with many choosing to be induced or have a caesarean because of issues of control and fear. Whilst your reference is demonstrating what is happening in America- Australia is demonstrating the same patterns. There is even a term for fear of birth tokophobia. Beyond the many issues that reduce real choice for pregnant and birthing women, this new trend is contributing to a real crisis in childbirth practices in Australia. All I can say is thank God for women who are passionate about caring for other women during pregnancy and childbirth. All of the wonderful work that the women of this site do does help! Thank you for the article Take care Alphia At 11:26 AM 23/09/2004, you wrote: Hi, I know this is based on America, but it seems, similiar attitudes are becoming more common here too. Love Abby (P.S. There are three parts to this.) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 11:03 AM Subject: [BirthRage] controlling delivery pt 1 Controlling Delivery Increasingly, U.S. women choose not to have a conventional birth. By John Pope Of New Orleans Times Picayune When Marilyn Hamilton learned she was pregnant, she was happy - then afraid. She would have no way of knowing when labor would start, how long it would last, how painful it would be and how much damage it might inflict on her and her child. So she plans to delivery by Cesarean section, even though at 21, she might be considered healthy enough to withstand a conventional labor and delivery when she gives birth in January. With the Cesarean section, you get a pretty good idea of when its going to happen and how you're going to feel , Hamilton said. I've read up on Cesarean sections and listened to the side effects, and I can handle that Hamilton, of Slidell, La, is one of the growing number of American women who , doctors say, chose the procedure for a variety of reasons : * they want to schedule the birth so that they won't have to endure long, painful hours of labor. * they are afraid of labor pain * they are anxious about possible complications of vaginal delivery, such as incontinence, the risk of infecting the baby and weakening the muscles that provide support for some organs. Over the last two or three years, doctors are hearing more of these requests, said Dr. Bruce Flamm of the University of California, Irvine, a spokesman for the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists. We used to think that a Cesarean section with no medical reason is a silly idea. I'm not so certain anymore The oddest thing is that I dont know whether anyone knows whether this is a good or a bad trend . In a change from their previous hard-line stance against using the procesudre without a medical reason, increasing numbers of doctors are acceding to their patients' wishes. Though the patient comes first, the doctor clearly benefit from a scheduled procedures. Even though a Cesarean section is a major abdominal operation, more women are delivering this way. From 1989 to 2002, the latest statistics available, the rate of such births rose by nearly 15 percent, from 22.8 percent to 26.1 percent, according to the National Center for Health Statistics. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] BirthRage webpage- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BirthRage Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BirthRage/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584
[ozmidwifery] Headline - New lease on life for mothers
Dear everyone, Alphia wants you to know about this story on http://www.smh.com.au. Personal Message: New lease on life for mothers By Miranda Wood July 25, 2004 URL: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/07/24/1090464906932.html The online edition of The Sydney Morning Herald brings you updated local and world news, sports results, entertainment news and reviews and the latest technology information. Click here to sign up for early morning news alerts from The Sydney Morning Herald newsroom. http://www.smh.com.au/newsletters/subscription.html -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] for anyone who might be interested
Hi everyone, Just thought I would post this to remind you of the upcoming conference being held at the University of Western Sydney. I know it is outside of your field - but there are some sessions that might be of interest. Hope that everyone is well Take care Alphia Dear Friends and Colleagues, The University of Western Sydney (Bankstown Campus) is hosting the 2004 Australian Association for the Study of Religions Conference in July 16-18: 'Fear and Fascination: The Other in Religion'. More information can be found at http://www.aasr.org.au/aasr_annual_conference.htm Please note that cheaper rates apply if conference fees are paid before the 1st of July 2004. Keynote addresses and lectures include: Prof. Gary Boumas keynote address on 'Religion, Cultural Diversity and Social Cohesion'. Prof. Terry Lovats 2004 Charles Strong Lecture on 'Islam: Old and New Interpretations of the Relationship with Judaism and Christianity'. Dr. Kalpana Rams 2004 Penny Magee Lecture on 'Religion, Gender and the Postcolonial Crisis of the Present: reflections on India' Ms Toni Tidswells 2004 Charles Strong Jnr Lecture 'The Qur'an and contemporary Muslim understanding of modesty: the case of the Aziz's wife'. Mehmet Ozalp's Presidential Address for the Affinity Intercultural Foundation on 'Impact of Muslim Presence in the Western World to the Relationship of Islam with the Judeo-Christian Tradition'. Dr Adam Possamais 2004 AASR Presidential Address on 'Intellectuals of the Other in Religion' We have close to 70 presenters giving papers on various themes such as · Alternative Spiritualities and the Other · Multiculturalism, Religion and the Other · Religion and Social Movement · Fascination and Fear in Popular Culture and Mythology · Psychology and Religion · Muslim Relations with the Other · Spirituality in the lives of women and in feminism · Birthing Spirituality · Healing and Well-Being in Spirituality · Religious Education and the Other · The Global and the Other · Religion and Politics . Fear of Islam, ... All the best Adam Possamai ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584
Re: [ozmidwifery] Ann Peacock defends Liz Tracey
here are the transcripts for this newspaper article: SECTION: ANN PEACOCK: TALES OF A MODERN WOMAN; Pg. 118 HEADLINE: Not the unkindest cut BYLINE: Ann Peacock BODY: FULL credit to 60 Minutes last week for highlighting the growing debate about caesarean section births. The issue was recently stirred up after I read comments by UK actor Kate Winslet, who admitted she had originally lied about having a natural birth. Her daughter, 4, with her first husband, was born by emergency c-section, though she said at the time that Mia's birth was an uncomplicated natural birth. But she recently told a magazine: I've gone to great pains to cover it up. But Mia was an emergency c-section. I just said I had a natural birth because I was so completely traumatised by the fact that I hadn't given birth. I felt like a complete failure. I was again dismayed when, talking about the issue with a few colleagues, one girl felt the same way as Winslet: as though a caesarean made you less of a woman and, for some, less of a mother. How such a horrible thought could enter the minds of these mums astounds me. Having a caesar -- for whatever reason, be it preventative medical or merely convenience -- is a personal choice that should never become a rule for advocates of one or another view. That some advocates assume those who have chosen a caesarean are any less of a mother is shocking. Perhaps my opinion is coloured by my experience. My first birth had to be an emergency c-section when, after 16 hours of labour, my baby was becoming distressed without making any sort of entrance. As a result, and with the safety of baby No. 2 in mind, I booked for a caesar next time around. Not once have I felt less of a mother as a result. Mothering happens after the birth, in case no one has noticed. Perhaps the tainted image of the c-section has developed through nonsense about women who have chosen the procedure instead of natural births -- the high and mighty who have been dubbed too posh to push. In the 60 Minutes story by Liz Hayes, we met a woman who tried to give birth naturally and endured 20 hours of labour -- only to end up with the baby severely distressed. An emergency caesar was performed, but the baby sadly died. This woman went on to have a divine child, now aged 4, by caesarean. Some may argue women can feel failures after caesareans. But judging a woman's worth as a mother based on her experience with birth is not wise. Newsreader Tracey Curro appeared on the program. She has had both her children by caesarean and made the most sensible observation. I don't subscribe to the notion that a vaginal birth is some kind of rite of passage to complete womanhood or to be being a real mother, she said. Everything that makes having children a priceless experience begins after they're born. LOAD-DATE: June 5, 2004 At 01:12 PM 6/06/2004, you wrote: Reading my paper over breakfast, we find a half page spread from Ann Peacock (Herald Sun - Melbourne, p 118) giving full credit to 60 mins and co. And from her personal experience having had a emergency LUSCS for her first child, naturally with the safety of No 2 baby in mind, booked straight in for another LUSCS! Her quote Mothering happens after the birth, in case no one has noticed. You can contact her on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheryl _ Get a Virgin Credit Card and win an adventure: http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;8661322;9498324;s?http://www.promo.com.au/virgincreditcard/firstbirthday/track.cfm?source=N92 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584
[ozmidwifery] 60 minutes
Hello everyone, I share in your frustration over the recent report presented on 60 minutes. I have just read over the transcripts as I unfortunately missed the program. Beyond the complete lack of evidence based research that so many of you have picked up on and discussed within the list is a very interesting notions of risk and of course the issue of the woman's faulty body. Women such as Vanessa Gorman and Tracey Curro are only reflecting the dominant ideologies of the society in which we live. Although I have to admit whilst reading this transcript I felt like hitting someone. It is a shame that they picked someone like Tracey - who is a public and trusted face for Australians - to speak about the medical necessities of having a cs. How are Australians supposed to weigh up the debate? On one side they have Justine who birthed at home with 'only' a midwife present. Which many people within our society would see as being irresponsible. Although it is infuriating to everyone on this list - it is indeed a sentiment that I have had many women share with me. On the other we have the awful story of Vanessa - which to some degree is already in the conscious of Australian society. Her happy ending is not due to her body's ability to birth - but rather to medical intervention. On top of that we have Tracey whose proof is in the pudding- with all of the romantic pictures of her children through their various stages of life. How can a cs be wrong when you end up with children like that and a proper functioning pelvic floor to boot! The bias was completed with the help of Liz and her interview questions and Dr Molloy with his, I hate to say it, misogynist views. When Liz finally got around to some of the complications that can arise through a caesarean section - it was only to be refuted by the ' expert' Dr Molloy. I have complete and utter respect for the women on this list and I share in your frustrations. I also want to thank Justine for working so hard on eradicating the type of misinformation that is out there and showing women that we can trust in ourselves first and foremost. Take care everyone Alphia Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584
Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Private Insurance companies covering independent midwives?
Oh I realize the difference - I just found it kind of strange that with the independent midwives unable to access indemnity coverage and unable to get the Federal government to cover them under medicare that insurance companies provide their clientele with any form of reimbursements for homebirths. Though I do find it interesting that some state they will only do this with proof the birth occurred within a hospital setting. Thanks everyone. Warmly Alphia At 01:13 PM 25/02/2004, you wrote: Alphia: I think these are different insurance companies: some people have private health insurance that will reimburse for homebirths. Different beings to public indemnity insurance purchase by the independent midwives. marilyn - Original Message - From: Alphia Possamai-Inesedy To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 2:52 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: Private Insurance companies covering independent midwives? Jen, I was not aware that this was the case - do you know which private insurance companies do this? I find it surprising considering that independent midwives are not covered by indemnity insurance. I am currently finishing a subsection of my thesis on the indemnity crisis and found your news interesting. If you could help me out with this I would grealty appreciate it. Take care Alphia At 03:47 AM 17/02/2004, you wrote: Some private insurance companies cover the fee of a midwife in private practice. One to one care with a midwife she's known throughout pregnancy birth is her best bet for successful breast feeding. Best of luck, Jen Melissah Scott @ Spilt Art [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have someone who is about 18 weeks pregnant and fairly recently moved to the blue mountians (Katoomba) She is unsure of where to birth at the moment and is concidering birthing at nepean private to make use of her private health insurance. She is hoping to stay in hospital for about 5 or so days, and at nepean private her husband can stay with her. She wants to stay in for a few days because she is nervous about being able to breastfeed and take care of her bub, as she feels she has not much idea of what she is doing. So I sugested to her that maybe a doula could be of great benifit to her by the way of childbirth info, birthing and post natal care/advice etc. She is quite interested in talking to some doulas in the area. So, I thought Id try to get together a list of Doulas in the area to pass on to her. If anyone is interested, could you please either reply or email me directly with all your details [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know your around Abby, but I cant find your contact details. Thanks! Melissah www.Splitart.com Try the new improved Yahoo! Australia NZ Search Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584
[ozmidwifery] Re: Private Insurance companies covering independent midwives?
Jen, I was not aware that this was the case - do you know which private insurance companies do this? I find it surprising considering that independent midwives are not covered by indemnity insurance. I am currently finishing a subsection of my thesis on the indemnity crisis and found your news interesting. If you could help me out with this I would grealty appreciate it. Take care Alphia At 03:47 AM 17/02/2004, you wrote: Some private insurance companies cover the fee of a midwife in private practice. One to one care with a midwife she's known throughout pregnancy birth is her best bet for successful breast feeding. Best of luck, Jen Melissah Scott @ Spilt Art [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have someone who is about 18 weeks pregnant and fairly recently moved to the blue mountians (Katoomba) She is unsure of where to birth at the moment and is concidering birthing at nepean private to make use of her private health insurance. She is hoping to stay in hospital for about 5 or so days, and at nepean private her husband can stay with her. She wants to stay in for a few days because she is nervous about being able to breastfeed and take care of her bub, as she feels she has not much idea of what she is doing. So I sugested to her that maybe a doula could be of great benifit to her by the way of childbirth info, birthing and post natal care/advice etc. She is quite interested in talking to some doulas in the area. So, I thought Id try to get together a list of Doulas in the area to pass on to her. If anyone is interested, could you please either reply or email me directly with all your details [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know your around Abby, but I cant find your contact details. Thanks! Melissah www.Splitart.com Try the new improved Yahoo! Australia NZ Search Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584
Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Private Insurance companies covering independent midwives?
Thanks everyone - I will chase all of this up. Take care Alphia At 10:30 AM 24/02/2004, you wrote: I just sent a letter to australian unity asking what cover they would give me for a home birth. They give about $640 for a private midwife in hospital birth situation (some for prenantal, some for post and a small fee for the birth). They give $2000 for a homebirth if you organise it with them in advance (and join before conceiving). SGIC/NRMA give $500 for midwifery similar to the hospital cover above. Many other funds have a similar small ammount of cover.1 At 9:52 +1100 24/2/04, Alphia Possamai-Inesedy wrote: Jen, I was not aware that this was the case - do you know which private insurance companies do this? I find it surprising considering that independent midwives are not covered by indemnity insurance. I am currently finishing a subsection of my thesis on the indemnity crisis and found your news interesting. If you could help me out with this I would grealty appreciate it. Take care Alphia At 03:47 AM 17/02/2004, you wrote: Some private insurance companies cover the fee of a midwife in private practice. One to one care with a midwife she's known throughout pregnancy birth is her best bet for successful breast feeding. Best of luck, Jen Melissah Scott @ Spilt Art [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have someone who is about 18 weeks pregnant and fairly recently moved to the blue mountians (Katoomba) She is unsure of where to birth at the moment and is concidering birthing at nepean private to make use of her private health insurance. She is hoping to stay in hospital for about 5 or so days, and at nepean private her husband can stay with her. She wants to stay in for a few days because she is nervous about being able to breastfeed and take care of her bub, as she feels she has not much idea of what she is doing. So I sugested to her that maybe a doula could be of great benifit to her by the way of childbirth info, birthing and post natal care/advice etc. She is quite interested in talking to some doulas in the area. So, I thought Id try to get together a list of Doulas in the area to pass on to her. If anyone is interested, could you please either reply or email me directly with all your details mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] I know your around Abby, but I cant find your contact details. Thanks! Melissah http://www.splitart.com/www.Splitarthttp://www.splitart.com/.com Try the new improved http://au.rd.yahoo.com/mail/tagline/*http://www.yahoo.com.auYahoo! Australia NZ Search Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- Jo Bourne Virtual Artists Pty Ltd -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584
[ozmidwifery] searching for Catherine Boon
Hi everyone, Does anyone know a Catherine Boon? She is a clinical midwife at Westmead Hospital in NSW and has conducted some very interesting research a couple of years ago - If anyone can point me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks Take care Alphia Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Spirituality and birthing
Hi everyone, I have just come back from visiting my family in the States for an extended Christmas break. I must say that I have had a very interesting read of everyone's comments - The Today show's live CS was especially of interest! On another note I just want to let everyone know that there will be a conference held on 16-18th of July 2004 by the Australian Association for the Study of Religions (AASR) at the University of Western Sydney. I will be chairing a session on spirituality and childbirth and putting out an invitation to all of those who might be interested in attending or participating in the session. If you are interested in participating please send a 50-100 word abstract of the proposed paper with your affiliation to me by the 26th of March. I know that many of you might only be interested in attending and I do believe that there are one day costs (which is very cheap). Once all of the information on the conference becomes available I will post it to the site. The other sessions are very interesting- though they do not deal with birth - they include: Spirituality and Social Justice; Sacred Texts and Textual criticism; Islamaphobia; Multiculturalism, Religion and the Other; History of the Christian/Islam Encounter; and Alternative Spiritualities and the Other. Just to let everyone know the AASR is an association which comprises of approx. 300 people of varying backgrounds. There are teachers, academics, students all from cross-disciplinary areas. So although the conference is academic in nature - there is a more relaxed feel to it. I hope to see some of you there. Take care Alphia Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Fwd: FW: a quick click to help
A small effort that can make a big difference: Please tell ten friends to tell ten today. The Breast Cancer site is having trouble getting enough people to click on it daily to meet their quota of donating at least one free mammogram a day to an underprivileged woman. It takes less than a minute to go to their site and click on donating a mammogram for free (pink window in the middle). This doesn't cost you a thing. Their corporate sponsors/advertisers use the number of daily visits to donate a mammogram in exchange for advertising. Here's the web site! Pass it along to 10 people you know. http://www.thebreastcancersite.com Ms Christine de Matos Doctoral candidate and part-time lecturer School of Humanities College of Arts, Education and Social Sciences University of Western Sydney Room 1.111, Building 1 Bankstown Campus Locked Bag 1797 Penrith South DC NSW 1797 Australia ph:61 2 9772 6214 mob:0412 06 111 2 fax:61 2 9772 6688 email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 'Happy the nation whose people has not forgotten how to rebel.' R.H. Tawney. Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584
[ozmidwifery] Headline - Time to deliver a midwife boost
Greetings, Alphia wants you to know about a story on www.smh.com.au Personal Message: Thought you might be interested Time to deliver a midwife boost By Vanessa Wilson September 18, 2003 URL: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/09/18/1063625125721.html -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] HOMEBIRTH INFORMATION
Jan, Where are you getting these statistics from? I find this of interest for the research that I am pursuing at the moment. Take care Alphia At 08:25 AM 1/09/03 +1000, you wrote: Dear ozmid subscribers If anyone has first-hand knowledge of any adverse or 'near miss' outcomes from any PLANNED UNATTENDED HOMEBIRTHS please send it to me privately. There seems to be at least twice the number of unattended homebirths occurring in NSW than those attended by registered midwives. Any information forwarded will be treated confidentially (your names will not be published) but accurate information of cases will be compiled in a list of 'horror stories' that ASIM will use to try and fast-track the funding of homebirths in NSW. Every woman deserves her own midwife free of charge. Thanks in anticipation Jan __ Jan Robinson Phone/fax: 011+ 61+ 2+ 9546 4350 Independent Midwife Practitioner e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8 Robin Crescent www: midwiferyeducation.com.au South Hurstville NSW 2221 National Coordinator, ASIM __ -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] message of thanks
Thanking everyone for their help in regards to my question on the internet. As usual I have found your knowledge invaluable. Take care everyone Warmly Alphia Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] internet sites
Thanks Lois -Julie has already forwarded me the list - some great stuff! Thank you Take care Alphia At 09:14 PM 1/08/03 +0800, you wrote: Hi Alphia, here are some to start off:- www.birthjourney.com www.birthrites.org. www.communitymidwifery.iinet.net.au Julie Clarke compiled an excellent list of websites recently. I wourld recommend you email her via ozmidwifery for a copy. Kind regards, Lois - Original Message - From: Alphia Garrety [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 9:23 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] internet sites Hello to all of you wise women out there, Continuing the research - I have found that many of my respondents continuously make use of the internet to aid them with their birthing choices. So I am currently attempting to search the internet and find various sites that support the many approaches that women take to birth - from the homebirth to the planned caesarean. So if anyone knows of some sites I would really appreciate it if you could forward them onto me. The impact of the net on our birthing choices is amazing - something that I have never quite considered. Thanking everyone in advance Warmly Alphia Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] internet sites
Hello to all of you wise women out there, Continuing the research - I have found that many of my respondents continuously make use of the internet to aid them with their birthing choices. So I am currently attempting to search the internet and find various sites that support the many approaches that women take to birth - from the homebirth to the planned caesarean. So if anyone knows of some sites I would really appreciate it if you could forward them onto me. The impact of the net on our birthing choices is amazing - something that I have never quite considered. Thanking everyone in advance Warmly Alphia Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Sleep Baby Sleep
Interesting conversations about this. I keep on thinking about the ideal of the superwoman, as I believe someone has mentioned before. Is our society creating permanent anxiety for everyone - especially women? The norms and values of our society seem to be geared toward the unattainable. The perfect everything - body, couple, career, house, and children (lets throw in the car and pets as well). In our strive to be part of this society - to attain the norms and values - we constantly fail. Yet, if someone were to offer an answer (most likely scientifically or managerially based) we seem to snap it up. The answer that allows us to still pursue perfection. We are frustrated with people who are only conforming to the norms and values of our society. I guess that is the most frustrating part! - The understanding of what our society is. Just a thought- not especially well formulated - but a thought nevertheless Take care everyone Alphia At 09:07 AM 24/06/03 +1000, you wrote: Hi Jackie, Yes they certainly do have an audience - the avoiding eye contact is an integral part of sleep training - it is justified' as reducing stimulation - ie put the baby facing away from you even as a tiny infant - how does this inspire trust? It seems such an uphill battle against these underminers of mothers confidence - it so goes against every crumb of parents instinct to ignore a baby's distress, but each letter from a parent spurs me on . I have just receivd an email from a mum of a 17 month old whose MIL gave her a copy of Parenting By Heart when her bub was younger - she has been down the CIO path and now keeps referring to my book -the sleep section - her bub goes to bed happily in his cot but wakes and sleeps the rest of the night with his parents - she loves this and is sad she bothered to struggle with controlled crying - also called controlled comforting - now thats a euphimism! I am having a stand at KIDSEXPO in Melb (*11-13 July)- Robin Barker is the drawcardparenting expert speaker - last year her entire talk was how to control cry your baby - the ABA counsellor who had a stand next to mine came back from listening utterly furious - the ABA stand was between TWeddle and mine - Tweddle -sold heaps of copies of their book -Sleep Right Sleep Tight which is a recipe for CC -charts and all. I felt like offering parents a swap as I saw these books and was so tempted to say - 'go and get a refund -your baby will thank you' - most were pregnant so they didnt even have babies yet were already influenced. Have decided I will get a big sign that says Recommended by Australian Association of Infant mental Health and see iof it stirs any discussion - did you know that large booksellers (AR and Dymocks) have a core list - and the CC books feature very strongly. Gr. Pinky - Original Message - From: Jaqueline Marwick To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:53 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Sleep Baby Sleep I must agree with Pinky as well And I call it the CIO method, the old name which is really CRY IT OUT. Now they call it controlled crying so it sounds a bit less cruel. This is in fact the old CRY IT OUT method, which means parents are told to let their babies cry , cry, cry until there are no more tears and so they sleep very tired from a very stressful cry, and probably thinking it makes no difference to cry or not, since mum and dad won't come to comfort them anyway. Sad. I went to this website (sleep baby sleep) and looked on their forum, and there it was: BINGO! Someone mentioned NGALA , an organisation in WA that promotes this CIO method for babies and also preaches that we should cut the night feeds and even avoid eye contact with the baby during the night (in case they wake up)amongst other pretty full on evil ways. Sad. And the worst thing is that these people have plenty of room in the media, I always hear them talking on the radio as specialists or experts in sleep methods, experts in parenting And they do have an audience! May God have mercy on them! What sort of child-parent relationship are these people creating by establishing that pattern? Jackie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Pinky McKay Sent: Monday, 23 June 2003 2:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Sleep Baby Sleep I think you are right Marilyn - did anyone see Saturdays Age -re 25 year olds and the stress these women are under - career/ study etc -not at all about mothers, but add mothering, especially with unrealistic expectations, to this scenario and it would all be a slippery downhill slide. I have several friends at the grandmother end who are wearing this stress (as well as trying to live their own lives) and actually being diagnosed with depression -as their young daughters are struggling with mothering and finding it overwhelming - maybe we all need to learn to slow up somehow and reach out to each other more. It seems prescriptions
[ozmidwifery] Headline - Mothers at risk: crisis warning on homebirths
Greetings, Alphia wants you to know about a story on www.smh.com.au Personal Message: Jan Robinson and Justine Caines in print! Mothers at risk: crisis warning on homebirths By Natasha Wallace May 31 2003 URL: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/05/30/1054177728394.html -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] FW: Dutch Birth Statistics
I was wondering if I could get a copy of the statistics as well. It would definitely help with my work- especially a cross cultural analysis. Thanks a lot. Warmly Alphia -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] request for help
Hi Linda, Thank you for responding to my request. No it does not matter if the mother is a midwife at all. I would love to hear your perspective. Since we live a state apart we will need to conduct the interview over the phone. If you are still fine with this why dont you email me the times that you are available. attached to this email is a info and consent sheet- if you could mail or fax the signed consent sheet back that would be fantastic. I am happy to conduct the interview during the evening- it seems to work out for many women as one of the only peaceful times of their days. Thank you again Take care Alphia At 10:40 PM 9/03/2003 +1030, you wrote: Hi Alphia, Does it matter if mother is a midwife? If not I can assist. Linda. Ph (03)51765171 From: Alphia Possamai [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] request for help Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 13:55:31 +1100 Hi Jo, Would love this if you could arrange it for me. I would like to keep the babies around 6 months of age- if they are slightly older that is fine- but not over 10 months. thank you for your help Warmly Alphia At 04:14 PM 7/03/2003 +1030, you wrote: Alphia, would you like some cs and vbac mums? If so I can link you up with some with a range of experiences. How old are bubs meant to be? Jo Bainbridge founding member CARES SA www.cares-sa.org.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 08 8388 6918 birth with trust, faith love... - Original Message - From: Alphia Garrety [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 2:45 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] request for help Hi everyone, Another request for assistance. I am still in the middle of my field work. I have almost the full amount of private hospital birthing women and homebirth moms. However, I need public hospital Moms - my only criteria is that the mother is Australian born and the baby born relatively recently. If anyone can help I would greatly appreciate it. I conduct an interview that lasts approximately 60 minutes - over the phone or face to face. Discussing expectations and experiences of pregnancy, care and birth. Thank you Alphia Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. _ MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_messenger.asp -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. information sheet1.doc Description: MS-Word document
Re: [ozmidwifery] request for help
Hi Jo, Would love this if you could arrange it for me. I would like to keep the babies around 6 months of age- if they are slightly older that is fine- but not over 10 months. thank you for your help Warmly Alphia At 04:14 PM 7/03/2003 +1030, you wrote: Alphia, would you like some cs and vbac mums? If so I can link you up with some with a range of experiences. How old are bubs meant to be? Jo Bainbridge founding member CARES SA www.cares-sa.org.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 08 8388 6918 birth with trust, faith love... - Original Message - From: Alphia Garrety [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 2:45 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] request for help Hi everyone, Another request for assistance. I am still in the middle of my field work. I have almost the full amount of private hospital birthing women and homebirth moms. However, I need public hospital Moms - my only criteria is that the mother is Australian born and the baby born relatively recently. If anyone can help I would greatly appreciate it. I conduct an interview that lasts approximately 60 minutes - over the phone or face to face. Discussing expectations and experiences of pregnancy, care and birth. Thank you Alphia Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Oxytocin Trust
Searched Radio National for this- are you sure it was on this date? have not been able to bring up any mention of it. At 07:45 AM 5/03/03 -0800, you wrote: Did any Radio National Breakfast listeners hear the report on Oxytocin and trust on Monday 3/3/03? If so do you have the reference for the study?? Denise Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584
[ozmidwifery] request for help
Hi everyone, Another request for assistance. I am still in the middle of my field work. I have almost the full amount of private hospital birthing women and homebirth moms. However, I need public hospital Moms - my only criteria is that the mother is Australian born and the baby born relatively recently. If anyone can help I would greatly appreciate it. I conduct an interview that lasts approximately 60 minutes - over the phone or face to face. Discussing expectations and experiences of pregnancy, care and birth. Thank you Alphia Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] baby wanted
Hi Julie, I am no midwife- but I am a woman who has suffered a miscarriage after being on the pill for 2 years. I conducted some research and found that a particular herb called Vitex is very helpful in evening out your hormones. You can buy this from a health food shop such as GNC. It comes in capsule or liquid form- I have been informed that the liquid form is the most potent- to be taken first thing in the morning.- Of course she should get some advice from a naturopath. The research that I read in relation to this herb found that it greatly aided women who suffered from PMS (and it also helps women suffering from menopause)- but at the same time the side effect was some pregnancies. It is very difficult to fall pregnant if your hormones are so out of wack. The pill and also the miscarriages would do this - beyond that her emtional upheaval is most likely contributing to her inability to conceive or to maintain the pregnancy. hOpe this helps. Take care Alphia At 11:16 PM 23/02/03 +1030, you wrote: Hi all, I need some wisdom for a young women who was tears telling me how desperately she wants to get pregnant, she has been trying for about 5 months. She is 21, had an abortion at 16 and three recent miscarriages. She also has huge guilt that her past may have permanently damaged her body. Her doctor told her that she is low in estrogen and that is why he put her on a contraceptive pill that had a high estrogen level in the past? He also said that she has to have several more miscarriages before they will do any tests (cruel unthinking bastard!) She is very slight in stature (maybe wears size 6 jeans) but otherwise healthy and has a good diet. If you clever people can help with some advise so she can do something proactive I think it will be a great comfort to her. All tips, tricks and recommendations welcome:) Thankyou, Julie'', Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584
RE: [ozmidwifery] baby wanted
I remember- Sydney Herald- weekend edition- within the good weekend- approximately 3-4 weeks ago. I will try and see if I can find the exact dates- At 01:03 PM 24/02/03 +1100, you wrote: There has been a bit in the papers recently about alternate means to aid conception. Hopefully some one will remember. It all sounded very effective. Try naturopaths and Chinese herbalists. Maureen. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Julie Garratt Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 11:46 PM To: Ozmid Subject: [ozmidwifery] baby wanted Hi all, I need some wisdom for a young women who was tears telling me how desperately she wants to get pregnant, she has been trying for about 5 months. She is 21, had an abortion at 16 and three recent miscarriages. She also has huge guilt that her past may have permanently damaged her body. Her doctor told her that she is low in estrogen and that is why he put her on a contraceptive pill that had a high estrogen level in the past? He also said that she has to have several more miscarriages before they will do any tests (cruel unthinking bastard!) She is very slight in stature (maybe wears size 6 jeans) but otherwise healthy and has a good diet. If you clever people can help with some advise so she can do something proactive I think it will be a great comfort to her. All tips, tricks and recommendations welcome:) Thankyou, Julie'', Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584
[ozmidwifery] A note on the impending war
Does Tony Blair have any idea what the flies are like that feed off the dead? By Robert Fisk LONDON, 26 January 2003 -The Independent On the road to Basra, ITV was filming wild dogs as they tore at the corpses of the Iraqi dead. Every few seconds a ravenous beast would rip off a decaying arm and make off with it over the desert in front of us, dead fingers trailing through the sand, the remains of the burned military sleeve flapping in the wind. Just for the record, the cameraman said to me. Of course. Because ITV would never show such footage. The things we see the filth and obscenity of corpses cannot be shown. First because it is not appropriate to depict such reality on breakfast-time TV. Second because, if what we saw was shown on television, no one would ever again agree to support a war. That of course was in 1991. The highway of death, they called it . There was actually a parallel and much worse highway of death 10 miles to the east, courtesy of the US Air Force and the RAF, but no one turned up to film it and the only true picture of the horrors we saw was the photograph of the shriveled, carbonized Iraqi soldier in his truck. This was an iconic illustration of a kind because it did represent what we had seen, when it was eventually published. For Iraqi casualties to appear on television during that Gulf War there was another one between 1980 and 1988, and a third is in the offing. It was necessary for them to have died with care, to have fallen romantically on their backs, one hand over a ruined face. Like those World War I paintings of the British dead on the Somme, Iraqis had to die benignly and without obvious wounds, without any kind of squalor, without a trace of shit or mucus or congealed blood, if they wanted to make it on to the morning News programs. I rage at this contrivance. At Qaa in 1996, when the Israelis had shelled Lebanese refugees at the UN compound for 17 minutes, killing 106 civilians, more than half of them children, I came across a young woman holding in her arms a middle-aged man. He was dead. My father, my father, she kept crying, cradling his face. One of his arms and one of his legs was missing the Israelis used proximity shells which cause amputation wounds but when that scene reached television screens in Europe and America, the camera was close up on the girl and the dead man's face. The amputations were not to be seen. The cause of death had been erased in the interests of good taste. It was as if the old man had died of tiredness, just turned his head upon his daughter's shoulder to die in peace. Today, when I listen to the threats of US President George W. Bush against Iraq and the shrill moralistic warnings of British Prime Minister Tony Blair, I wonder what they know of this terrible reality. Does George, who declined to serve his county in Vietnam, have any idea what these corpses smell like? Does Tony have the slightest conception of what the flies are like, the big bluebottles that feed on the dead, and then come to settle on our faces and our notepads? Soldiers know. I remember one British officer asking to use the BBC's satellite phone just after the liberation of Kuwait in 1991. He was talking to his family in England and I watched him carefully. I have seen some terrible things, he said. And then he broke down, weeping and shaking and holding the phone dangling in his hand over the transmission set. Did his family have the slightest idea what he was talking about? They would not have understood by watching television. Thus can we face the prospect of war. Our glorious, patriotic population albeit only about 20 percent in support of this particular Iraqi folly has been protected from the realities of violent death. But I am much struck by the number of letters in my postbag from veterans of World War II, men and women, all against this new Iraqi war, with an inalienable memory of torn limbs and suffering. I remember once a wounded man in Iran, a piece of steel in his forehead,howling like an animal which is, of course, what we all are before he died; and the Palestinian boy who simply collapsed in front of me when an Israeli soldier shot him dead, quite deliberately, coldly, murderously, for throwing a stone; and the Israeli with a chair leg sticking out of her stomach outside the Sbarro pizzeria in Jerusalem after a Palestinian bomber had decided to execute the families inside; and the heaps of Iraqi dead at the Battle of Dezful in the Iran-Iraq war; and the young man showing me the thick black trail of his daughter's blood outside Algiers where armed men had cut her throat. But George Bush and Tony Blair and Dick Cheney and Jack Straw and all the other little warriors who are bamboozling us into war will not have to think of these vile images. For them it's about surgical strikes, collateral damage and all the other examples of war's linguistic mendacity. We are going to have a just war; we are going to liberate the people of Iraq some of whom we will
Re: [ozmidwifery] I am back! Did ya miss me?
Hi Jo, I would be interested in this for my research. I have heard about it before but any form of literature would be much appreciated. Take care Alphia At 09:18 PM 3/02/2003 +1030, you wrote: Hi everyone, I am back with a newly polished soap box and a major thing to be yelling about! I am going to jump straight into it with the stress that I am not going to stay on the list for long (a few weeks perhaps) so you may have to contact me off list for further details. Okay, everyone sitting down??? Guess who is doing an Australian/New Zealand multi-centred study called ACTOBAC A Controlled Trial Of Birth After Caesarean which (wait for it) is a randomised controlled trial involving 2000 women. The study is being conducted by Professor Caroline Crowther. It involves women with one previous cs and they will be randomised at 34 weeks. Those who are designated the vbac option will have mandatory continuous monitoring and all the other woman unfriendly policies imposed on vbacs, inductions or augmentations will not be excluded. The unfortunate women who are allocated to the cs group, if they (inconveniently) go into spontaneous labour they will be given an emergency cs. How do I know all this?? CARES was contacted after Crowther read my article in Birth Perinatal Issues Journal (Sept 2002) and asked us to make some comments on the trialwe made comments alright! 5 pages worth for starters. The issues and criticisms are many and varied. the language used is appalling, the information biased and the methodology dubious. An then there is the little issue of it being completely unethical! we got a reply after almost three months with a thanks for your feed back. We are proud to announce the trial has been approved for funding. this is an unacceptable and insulting response to say the least. we have had no further comment from them. So how annoyed are you so far?? it gets better. As this is a long posting as it is, (typical for me huh?) If you want to know more please let me know. To end this email I will give you the first paragraph from the information pamphlet provided to us by the research team in November: For someone like yourself who has had a previous caesarean section a decision needs to be made as to whether your baby is best born by allowing a vaginal birth or whether a repeat caesarean section should be undertaken and it gets so much better hope to hear from interested parties as soon as possible as I am writing to the ethics committees and need as much weight to support our objections. (ACMI National level would be appreciated if you are listening!) Remember that this is going to recruiting women from every major women's children's hospital in every capital city around this country. cheers for now Jo Bainbridge founding member CARES SA www.cares-sa.org.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 08 8388 6918 birth with trust, faith love...
[ozmidwifery] Re: seeking respondents
Hi Aviva, Ihave just been going through my diary. I do not think I will be available for an interview until January. My Mother is coming to visit and will be here next week. Beyond that both of my children seem to have a million different functions at their schools right now! So I would love to interview you- as I am sure you would have a lot to say on these matters, but I have to put it off until mid Jan. Let me know if you are still interested. Take care Alphia --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.426 / Virus Database: 239 - Release Date: 2/12/02
Re: [ozmidwifery] Magazine Horror story
Gabrielle, I am very interested in the research you have conducted. I have been collecting over the last two years various newspaper and magazine articles on pregnancy and birth. I was wondering if you were interested in sharing some of your research. I am in the middle of my PhD thesis- and a section of a chapter is related to what you are speaking of. If you had a reference list of the articles you have used it would be most helpful- and I am happy to reciprocate. Take care Alphia At 01:30 PM 2/12/02 +1000, you wrote: Thank you Andrea for alerting us to the 'power of the popular media's portrayal of childbearing', and how insidious it can be. Recent research I have completed on the information women receive regarding childbearing in popular women's magazines was very disturbing. SHE magazine was one magazine analysed as it offered a story on Cindy Crawford and baby Presley (Cindy had a home birth). It offered nothing valuable about birth, it was a six page advertisement for Revlon cosmetics using images that were very sexy. Phallic lipsticks oozing with melted liquid and a beautiful buxom Cindy wearing an off the shoulder lacy black bra. All about the 'Whore'. She birthed at home, a very bold defiant woman, NOT a woman you would trust. My research revealed if you are a good woman accepting the 'correct medical advice and care in a safe hospital environment' you are portrayed as 'The Madonna' pink, married and submissive. 'Good women' fear birth and doubt their strength as women to birth safely without medical intervention. Your reward for this behaviour will be a pain free birth via and epidural and a perfect baby that the Doctor delivers for you. Instrumental births are portrayed as 'normal births'. (Women's Weekly, March 2000, Jennifer Keyte's antenatal story) The magazines demonised the home birth choice, denying the safeness of a home birth comparing it to the safety of a hospital birth. The stereotype was apparent 'Good girls do as they are told and have medicalised births', Bad girls are untrustworthy and chose home births'. In 2000 one only of the magazines analysed sold over 750,000 copies in one month, popular women's magazines are a very powerful form of media, we do need to challenge them and certainly not accept free advertising by distributing them within the hospitals. Cheers Gabrielle Alphia Garrety (Ba. Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Sociology and Justice Studies Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584
[ozmidwifery] SEEKING RESPONDENTS
Hi Everyone, I was wondering if anyone out there might have some home birth mothers who are willing to participate in my research. I am currently interviewing women who give birth through the private system, the public/tertiary led system and the public/midwifery led system. I feel that the women who seek out a home birth experience are needed for this study. I live in the NSW area, but am able to interview face to face in Melbourne as well. I also have a transcriber that allows me to tape conversations over the phone, but I do realize that not everyone enjoys this form of interaction. I would greatly appreciate any assistance with this. As always I greatly enjoy the debates that continue on this listserv- very passionate and intelligent debates- including the most recent one on Sting :-) Take care everyone Alphia Alphia Garrety (Ba. Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Sociology and Justice Studies Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Parliament discussion on Indemnity coverage
I thought you all might be interested in the fact that Parliament was discussing indemnity coverage for private practicing midwives and midwifery students today. On my way home from work I was listening to ABC radio and lo and behold there it was. A Senator Ridgeway (please excuse my spelling) gave an accurate picture of the dire circumstances that Australian society is facing in relation to the indemnity crisis. He quoted the WHO and NMAP and was an obvious supporter of midwives. The next speaker was a Senator Knowles (spelling again I am not sure of)- I am not sure of who she is- but I do know that she is from WA. Unfortunately her discussion stemmed around that she believed it was not the responsibility of the central or national goverment but rather the states themselves to supply assistance to midwives. She also went on to say that the reason this small amount of midwives was not being covered was because the insurance companies viewed them as too risky. Needless to say the driver in front of me believed I was conducting some form of private roadrage. I arrived home before much else was divulged. For those of you who are interested I am sure the transcripts will be available tomorrow onthe following website: www.aph.gov.au I believe if you go to Hansard Transcripts there will be something ready. What frustrated me was the purely economic rationality that Senator Knowles was proposing. She neglected to point out how the neglect to provide indemnity coverage for the above mentioned midwives was going to affect the population of Australian society. the restrictions that it actually causes.Anyway I thought I would pass it on. Take care everyone Regards Alphia -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] Senate Inquiry into childbirth procedures 1999
Hi everyone, I was wondering if any of you were involved in the Inquiry into childbirth practices that was held Australia wide in 1999. I am currently analysing the transcripts and am looking for some of the reports that were submitted. Also, I am interested in speaking or corresponing with any of you who took part to get your overall feeling of what happened at the Inquiry. If anyone can help me I would really appreciate it. Thanks Take care Alphia Alphia Garrety (Ba. Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Sociology and Justice Studies Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Senate Inquiry into childbirth procedures 1999
Hi Lynne, can I have a copy of that submission? Trying to get a better handle of these transcripts- they are driving me slightly insane :-) Thanks Alphia At 07:40 PM 23/09/02 +1000, you wrote: I sent in a submission on behalf of the unit where I work, if that helps, Alphia.. - Original Message - From: Alphia Garrety [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 4:48 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Senate Inquiry into childbirth procedures 1999 Hi everyone, I was wondering if any of you were involved in the Inquiry into childbirth practices that was held Australia wide in 1999. I am currently analysing the transcripts and am looking for some of the reports that were submitted. Also, I am interested in speaking or corresponing with any of you who took part to get your overall feeling of what happened at the Inquiry. If anyone can help me I would really appreciate it. Thanks Take care Alphia Alphia Garrety (Ba. Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Sociology and Justice Studies Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. Alphia Garrety (Ba. Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Sociology and Justice Studies Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Poster...for better birth!
Hi Vicki, I would also like a poster for my research. Please send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you so much Take care Alphia -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] research
I dont know if this helps or not- there has been research in this area within the discipline of sociology- so mind you it would have a theoretical basis. Here is the jist of one of the arguments: The emergent movement for breastfeeding in Western society has been severly compromised and its traditional meaning subordinated to technical rationality. The works of Herbert Marcuse (instrumental rationality), Michel Foucault (new forms of control) and Jurgen Habermas (colonization of the lifeworld) aid to demonstrate the social processes by which such subordination is accomplished. Again it might not interest you- but since I had the information I thought I would hand it over. Good luck with your work Alphia At 11:01 AM 29/08/02 +1000, you wrote: Dear List I am a midwifery student at Ballarat Uni doing a research proposal. At the moment I am looking for a questionnaire to use with my research question, ' What influences a woman's choice to breast or bottle feed her baby?' Does anyone out there know where I could look or know of anyone who has used one? Regards Sheena Johnson (midwifery Student,Ballarat University) Alphia Garrety (Ba. Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Sociology and Justice Studies Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] research
They are not as complicated as they sound- I promise that I will give a quick summary tomorrow- but now i am off to pick up my children. Take care Alphia At 02:39 PM 29/08/02 +1000, you wrote: Please explain these theories ?? Denise - Original Message - From: Alphia Garrety [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] research I dont know if this helps or not- there has been research in this area within the discipline of sociology- so mind you it would have a theoretical basis. Here is the jist of one of the arguments: The emergent movement for breastfeeding in Western society has been severly compromised and its traditional meaning subordinated to technical rationality. The works of Herbert Marcuse (instrumental rationality), Michel Foucault (new forms of control) and Jurgen Habermas (colonization of the lifeworld) aid to demonstrate the social processes by which such subordination is accomplished. Again it might not interest you- but since I had the information I thought I would hand it over. Good luck with your work Alphia At 11:01 AM 29/08/02 +1000, you wrote: Dear List I am a midwifery student at Ballarat Uni doing a research proposal. At the moment I am looking for a questionnaire to use with my research question, ' What influences a woman's choice to breast or bottle feed her baby?' Does anyone out there know where I could look or know of anyone who has used one? Regards Sheena Johnson (midwifery Student,Ballarat University) Alphia Garrety (Ba. Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Sociology and Justice Studies Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. Alphia Garrety (Ba. Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Sociology and Justice Studies Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Dr. John Stephenson
Aviva, I will pass on your regards- Just on the side- I really like your name. At 06:23 PM 27/08/02 +0930, you wrote: Hi, Alphia, Please say hello to Dr. John Stephenson for me! Aviva - Original Message - From: Alphia Garrety To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Dr. John Stephenson Thank you Sue for placing me in contact with Dr Stephenson. Alphia Garrety (Ba. Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Sociology and Justice Studies Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584
Re: [ozmidwifery] Dr. John Stephenson
Thank you Sue for placing me in contact with Dr Stephenson. I will be meeting him in September and I truly look forward to it. Take care Alphia Alphia Garrety (Ba. Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Sociology and Justice Studies Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: Fwd: Re: [ozmidwifery] newspaper article on pregnancy in transplanted uterus
Dear Lynne, I am currently working on a PhD in the field of sociology of reproduction. I am interested in women's choices in relation to pregnancy and childbirth- Of great interest to me is this supposed turn towards embracing medical intervention. The list has been discussing this on and off- for instance women demanding caesarean sections and social inductions. I truly believe that the discourse surrounding pregnancy and birth is laden with notions of the faulty body- hence women's turn to medicine as opposed to themselves. That is a very short answer to what I am working on- I would love to see women trusting their own body- I know that everyone on this list seems to do so- and have worked with many women who do as well- but there are just too many cases now of women automatically turning to medical intervention as the best and safest answer. Anyway- I will send those chapters off to you by the end of the week- I hope that you enjoy them. Take care Alphia At 05:54 PM 26/08/02 +1000, you wrote: From: Lynne Staff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] newspaper article on pregnancy in transplanted uterus Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 18:31:47 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600. Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Alphia - I would be very interested in reading these chapters. I think it links in with what we do and think (although it seems sometimes that midwives don't think about the words they say or what they do and how this may help shape/perpetuate the maternity care culture. One of the reasons I asked the midwives to change the way they spoke to women before we opened the unit where I work - trying to change a LOT of the practices which are legacies of many decades of medically structured, and by George, these midwives have done it! And what a difference it makes too. My mail address is 122 Eudlo Rd, Mooloolah, QLD, 4553. What are you working on? Warm regards, Lynne - Original Message - From: Alphia Garrety [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] newspaper article on pregnancy in transplanted uterus Hi Lynne, To tell you the truth I am not familiar with Rowlands work- . I just went through my library's catalogue and found a few of her publications- but nothing beyond Living Laboratories. I am going to go check it out after my classes. There is a book called Body Talk an edited book by Mary Lay, Laura Gurak, Clare Gravon and Cynthia Myntti. There are several interesting chapters on discourse and reproduction- a very good one by Robbie Davis-Floyd. If you are interested I can send you some photocopied chapters- I just need your address. But I agree with you- the discourse that surrounds reproduction and medicine is very loaded. I wont go on my soap box again- but I do find it very depressing. Let me know if you are interested in the articles. Take care Alphia At 08:23 AM 23/08/02 +1000, you wrote: Hi Alphia I read with interst your comments on this - a passion of mine and has been for years - in fact this was what got me into language and it's significance in shaping reality in maternity care. It was through reading Robyn Rowland's book Living Laboratories that I became aware of all of this initially. Do you happen to know what she is up to? I would assume you know of her because of your work and would love to read more of her papers. Regards, Lynne - Original Message - From: Alphia Garrety [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 12:10 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] newspaper article on pregnancy in transplanted uterus Hi everyone, This is not the first time that this form of research has been undertaken. March 7, 2002 the New York times printed an article on Medical First: A Transplant of a uterus, there was another more recent article in the Sydney Morning Herald- on August 14th of this year there was an article on how a US doctor defends human cloning experiment. Though it is not dealing with a transplanted uterus, this form of medical intervention involves taking the DNA from an 'infertile' mother and adding it to a donor's egg. The donor's DNA would be removed from the egg, which would be implanted into a surrogate mother!!! What a world! Beyond the fact that this form of research screams about the faulty body of the woman (sending this message loud and clear to all who read it)- think about the emotional turmoil of all involved- of course there is more here to be dissected and discussed- such as things as the imperative of a biological child and the woman as patient- labelling infertility as an illness as well. Whilst I have much empathy for a woman or couple who are finding themselves in the position of having fertility
[ozmidwifery] newspaper article on pregnancy in transplanted uterus
Hi everyone, This is not the first time that this form of research has been undertaken. March 7, 2002 the New York times printed an article on Medical First: A Transplant of a uterus, there was another more recent article in the Sydney Morning Herald- on August 14th of this year there was an article on how a US doctor defends human cloning experiment. Though it is not dealing with a transplanted uterus, this form of medical intervention involves taking the DNA from an 'infertile' mother and adding it to a donor's egg. The donor's DNA would be removed from the egg, which would be implanted into a surrogate mother!!! What a world! Beyond the fact that this form of research screams about the faulty body of the woman (sending this message loud and clear to all who read it)- think about the emotional turmoil of all involved- of course there is more here to be dissected and discussed- such as things as the imperative of a biological child and the woman as patient- labelling infertility as an illness as well. Whilst I have much empathy for a woman or couple who are finding themselves in the position of having fertility problems- I do have a serious problem with using women as guineau pigs in medical research, as has been the case with IVFand surrogacy (we do not know the long term effects of the amount of hormones given to these women as of yet)- I feel that our society places too much emphasis on having a biological child- women or couples are no longer able to deal with the problem of infertility in an 'nonmedical' way. By labelling infertility an illness and having the technology to treat it- we may reach a point where women or couples who do not take up this option are seen as irresponsible. Well that is my two cents Take care everyone Alphia Alphia Garrety (Ba. Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Sociology and Justice Studies Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery model of care in hospitals
Dear Jan, Is Bankstown public a midwifery led hospital? Ididnt think it was- anyway I will call- thank you so much for your help with this. take care Alphia At 08:13 AM 17/08/2002 +1000, you wrote: On 12/8/02 3:14 PM, Alphia Garrety [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, Does anyone know of a midwifery led hospital within NSW- not too far out of the Sydney area. I know of St George- any others?? Thanks Alphia -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. Try Bankstown Alphia ... Talk to Donna Garland. Jan -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] vbac day sept 11
Wont be able to attend- I wont be in Victoria until the 15th- hope you all have a very empowering day. Alphia At 04:34 PM 10/08/02 +1000, you wrote: no it's jan ireland hampton vic - Original Message - From: Lynne Staff To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] vbac day sept 11 Wish I could come Jan, but I'm a bit far away!! Is Sept 11 going to be a regular thing? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 8:49 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] vbac day sept 11 Anyone interested ?Come and share at Jan's house sept 11 lots of insppiring stories from my practice re courage of women to be impowered by their birth rsvp for nos lol jan Alphia Garrety (Ba. Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Sociology and Justice Studies Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584
[ozmidwifery] Midwifery model of care in hospitals
Hi everyone, Does anyone know of a midwifery led hospital within NSW- not too far out of the Sydney area. I know of St George- any others?? Thanks Alphia -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery model of care in hospitals
Thanks Carolyn, I need another hospital to use as my base for possible participants. Take care Alphia At 03:32 PM 12/08/02 +1000, you wrote: Yes, Alphia, Wyong Hospital, part of the Central Coast Health Service is midwifery led. It's fantastic, the midwives do a great job and are well supported by the health service and the administration. The doctors are supportive and work in a collaborative practice model. All in all, a wonderful example and a real tribute to the health service, the midwives, the medical people and the women who access the service (who all love it!). warmly, Carolyn Hastie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alphia Garrety Sent: Monday, 12 August 2002 3:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery model of care in hospitals Hi everyone, Does anyone know of a midwifery led hospital within NSW- not too far out of the Sydney area. I know of St George- any others?? Thanks Alphia -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] vbac day sept 11
I would love to come to this - is this Jan Robinson in Sydney? But I would be coming to listen if that is all right. I would just like to add that all of the messages that are sent back and forth on this list about the faith in womens bodies and in the birth process is very inspiring- I truly admire all of you. Warmly Alphia At 10:13 AM 10/08/2002 +1000, you wrote: Wish I could come Jan, but I'm a bit far away!! Is Sept 11 going to be a regular thing? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 8:49 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] vbac day sept 11 Anyone interested ?Come and share at Jan's house sept 11 lots of insppiring stories from my practice re courage of women to be impowered by their birth rsvp for nos lol jan
[ozmidwifery] midwifery history references
and includes more than 100,000 midwives. Raisler reviews the history and current activities of the Confederation, and discusses future challenges for the organisation. Sinclair M, 1996 History. William Smellie and midwifery practice in 1765 Modern Midwife 6(9):26-9, Sep. A discussion on William Smellie's influential eighteenth century midwifery book. Southern J, 1998 On trial: women healers Midwifery Today with International Midwife (45):35-9, Spring. Books: Allan P Jolley M, 1982 Nursing, midwifery and health visiting since 1900 Faber, London, [ISBN 0571118399]. Ehenreich B, English D 1973 Witches, midwives and nurses: A history of women healers The Feminist Press, New York. Fildes V, 1988 Wet nursing : a history from antiquity to the present Basil Blackwell, Oxford [ISBN 0631158316]. Hughes M 1968 Women healers in medieval life and literature Books for Libraries Press, New York. Marland H (Ed.), 1993 The Art of midwifery: early modern midwives in Europe (The Wellcome Institute series in the history of medicine) Routledge, London [ISBN 0415064252]. Radcliffe W, 1967 Milestones in midwifery Wright, Bristol [ISBN z0083173]. Rhodes P, 1995 A short history of clinical midwifery :the development of ideas in the professional management of childbirth Cheshire (Books for Midwives), Hale [ISBN 1898507228]. Smellie W, 1974 A treatise on the theory and practice of midwifery Scolar Press, London [ISBN 0702005223]. Wilson, A 1995 The making of man-midwifery: childbirth in England 1660-1770 UCL Press, London [ISBN 1857282922]. Book chapters: Cochrane J. 1996 An illustrated history of medicine Tiger Books International, London [ISBN 1855018098]. Although written for the non-professional this book contains interesting artwork and information. Midwifery is discussed through pages 103-13 and includes a number of plates showing childbirth through the ages. Nursing is also noted: nurse helping a doctor bleed a patient - pale from blood loss, pg. 25. An 18 Century caricature, pg. 93. A description of the work of Nightingale. Alphia Garrety (Ba. Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Sociology and Justice Studies Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584
[ozmidwifery] Re: midwifery history
Hi everyone, Does anyone have a few good references out there on the history of obstetrics and midwifery within Australia? I would greatly appreciate any help on this matter. Kindest regards Alphia Alphia Garrety (Ba. Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Sociology and Justice Studies Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: midwifery history
Thanks Jane, Have that one- picked it up in a great second hand book store- I agree with you - I love the way that Evan has analysed the subordination of midwifery within Australia- highlighting the specific history of Australian midwifery rather than lumping it together with England and America. Thanks Take care Alphia At 09:09 AM 30/07/02 +1000, you wrote: Hi A book that always stuck in my mind was called 'Medical Dominance' - the author was Willis (sorry I can't find a full reference). There was a chapter on midwifery and the process of medical dominance from settlement in Australia. The book is out of print - but you should be able to get a copy in a library. Cheers Jane Pregnancy, Birth and Beyond Caring, Professional Midwifery Services Sydney Visit http://www.pregnancy.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alphia Garrety Sent: Tuesday, 30 July 2002 8:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: midwifery history Hi everyone, Does anyone have a few good references out there on the history of obstetrics and midwifery within Australia? I would greatly appreciate any help on this matter. Kindest regards Alphia Alphia Garrety (Ba. Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Sociology and Justice Studies Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: midwifery history
Hi Lynne, Thank you so much for your offer of assistance. Basically I am just looking at the historical development of midwifery and obstetrics within Australia- of course I am interested in Australia nationally speaking, but if there is some interesting info on NSW. I am doing the research as well- so if I find anything of interest I will pass it on to you. Take care Alphia At 09:19 AM 30/07/02 +1000, you wrote: Hi ALphia - I am just embarking on historical things, so if you let me know some specifics, I can feep you in mind in my searches - regards, Lynne - Original Message - From: Alphia Garrety [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 8:42 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: midwifery history Hi everyone, Does anyone have a few good references out there on the history of obstetrics and midwifery within Australia? I would greatly appreciate any help on this matter. Kindest regards Alphia Alphia Garrety (Ba. Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Sociology and Justice Studies Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: midwifery history
Thanks Lynne that would be great- If you could give her my details- (at the bottom of the email) I would greatly appreciate it. See if she is interested and then I can call her/email her. Appreciate the help everyone. Take care Alphia Alphia Garrety (Ba. Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Sociology and Justice Studies Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: midwifery history
Thank you everyone who has led me on some great paths of research- I really appreciate it! Take care everyone Alphia Alphia Garrety (Ba. Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Sociology and Justice Studies Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Seeking information on hospital models of care
Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone had information on the models of maternity care available at the following hospitals- I should say what is available now and what the history was- If anyone has any references I would greatly appreciate it: Liverpool Hospital (NSW) St. George Hospital (NSW) Sydney Adventist Hospital (NSW) I am aware of the differences bt the three- namely tertiary/midwifery led/private and some of the programs run within them- but if anyone knows of more detailed knowledge or where I could find it I would greatly appreciate it- thank you Take care Alphia -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: communism
Hi everyone, I have just skimmed through all of your respnses- I am on my way to my daughter's soccer game- It seems my life revolves around my children's sporting endeavors of late. Anyway, after I posted my quote by Engels- I was worried that some of you would misinterpret me. When I speak of forced labour I speak of the loss of control experienced by so many women when they walk into a hospital environment for the birth of their child- I especially experienced this with the birth of my daughter 11 years ago. I have never been an adamant follower of Marx- but I must admit his work is very enticing- but not realistic in today's consumer society. If I follow his theory of socialism I become despondent when I see what is happening in the world today. I dont know if any of you saw the program on ABC on Tuesday- but it dealt with Transnational Corporations and their abuse of developing countries- it was heartbreaking- I just dont see Marx's theory coming to its full fruition. Anyway enough of that, off I go to soccer. I think for a book, rather than a slogan, this quote is valuable. Take Care Alphia At 08:18 PM 28/06/2002 +1000, Macha McDonald wrote: I think maybe you're confusing communism with fascism. A communist, or communism is a social system where people share goods and services. A fascist, or fascism is a one party system of government where there are distinct classes and individuals are inferior to the state and control is maintained by military force and rigid censorship - quite the opposite of communism. When I think of the way I've been treated by some Obs (I studied for 10 years in medical school, and you are but a minion), and the way they rigidly control a women's experience of birth, I think of fascism. Not to undermine your German patients experience, because many communist societies have failed, but I feel obliged to explode the myths about communism. Thats my lesson for the day, and I dont even know how we got to that, but anyway!!! Have a good weekend! Macha. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rhonda Sent: Friday, 28 June 2002 7:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fw: RE: slogan ---Original Message--- From: Rhonda Date: Friday, June 28, 2002 19:28:48 To: Macha McDonald Subject: RE: slogan Isn't that funny - I was telling a woman about how I was treated during the birth f my sin and what was said and done and her reaction was this.. I came out here from Communist germany and that is what you would have expected there 20 yrs ago - I didn't think that sort of treatment was possible - Not in Australia, Not in this day and age. After that I can only wonder if maybe I was treated worse than anyone else ever is or if our Ob's are communists after all? Just something to think about! Rhonda ---Original Message--- From: Macha McDonald Date: Friday, June 28, 2002 17:18:44 To: ozmidwifery Subject: RE: slogan I think because of the stigma stuck to communism in our capitalist society, ppl wouldnt appreciate being dictated to about Marx, and most would never have heard the quote, or even of Marx. They also may associate us with communists, which I dont think is a bad thing, but others may. I like it though. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alphia Garrety Sent: Friday, 28 June 2002 11:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: slogan I realize that the way this is worded would not be catchy enough for a slogan- by the way all of the ideas are fantastic. But I was reading some work by Karl Marx yesterday and there was this quote Man knows no more degrading or unbearable misery than forced labour Actually it is by Friedrich Engels- Marx's partner in crime. But it just hit me that Women know no more degrading or unbearable misery than forced labour. I dont know if it could work at all- but I just thought I would share it with all of you. Take Care Alphia Alphia Garrety (Ba. Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Sociology and Justice Studies Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. . IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
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I realize that the way this is worded would not be catchy enough for a slogan- by the way all of the ideas are fantastic. But I was reading some work by Karl Marx yesterday and there was this quote Man knows no more degrading or unbearable misery than forced labour Actually it is by Friedrich Engels- Marx's partner in crime. But it just hit me that Women know no more degrading or unbearable misery than forced labour. I dont know if it could work at all- but I just thought I would share it with all of you. Take Care Alphia Alphia Garrety (Ba. Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Sociology and Justice Studies Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: VBAC Article
terrible that it's fallen on such awful ground.''
A partial solution may be to
perform fewer C-sections in the first
place. Now, about 20 percent of babies delivered at KMC are
delivered by
C-section, which is slightly lower than the national average.
Some C-sections are prompted by
indications of fetal distress, which
may or may not necessarily be accurate. Doctors often play it safe
and
perform a C-section.
Other C-sections are the result
of healthy babies growing too large
to
be delivered naturally. Still other mothers will choose to have
a
C-section,
because they don't want to undergo the pain and difficulties of
labor.
``The issue is as much a social
issue as a medical issue,'' Bujak
said. ``Sometimes medical science ends up trying to sell all the
things we
can do. You generate expectations and expectations run away, and
before
you
know it, you never can get the genie back in the bottle.''
Kuchenski is undecided about
what she'll do. She plans to meet with
a
doctor in Spokane and may deliver there.
``My biggest concern is that
women need to be well-informed about
the
risks of each,'' she said. ``They need to be given a choice. They
weren't
going to give me a choice, and that's not right.''
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X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.411 (Entity 5.404) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Alphia Garrety [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 20:28:35 +1000 Subject: Re: Re: Closure of Liverpool Team Midwifery Project Hi Alphia I read your previous email re team midwifery salaries pack. Unfortunately I am receiving the ozmidwifery but cant repond to it. Could you forward this onto the ozmidwifery line On the Central Coast, NSW (Gosford Wyong Hospitals) the team midwifery programs have negotiated with the hospital and the NSWNA to work out an annualised salary agreement that has been working nicely for over 3 years. Kerry Allen- NUM GCMP has written an article for the NSWNA Lamp Journal (haven't seen it in print yet). The midwives work a roster with A8 shifts for their clinics and postnatal home visits and 12 hour shifts for delivery suite to increase continuity of care with day shift 8am- 8pm and on call 12 hour nights 8pm -8am. They then had the next day as z () shift in called in or come in and help if not called in. Its a credit-debit system with the midwives keeping their own logs on hours. They are paid an annualised salary- not sure about the details re holiday payments etc. They find no one leaves this program and only if some one goes on maternity leave then vacancies become avialable- in other words- very popular. Lyndall Mollart CNC Antenatal Services CCH Alphia Garrety [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if anyone ever remembers any type of media reports relating to the closure of the Liverpool Team Midwifery Project?? I find it very surprising that I cannot find anything about this closure within the newspaper archives. There had to be some form of publicity? Thanks Alphia At 12:28 PM 21/05/02 +1000, Judy Chapman wrote: They did work out a salary for the Team Midwives in Mackay but that did not stop them from closing us down. We were all paid as level two so they said that it made us too expensive as there were too many level two's around. We worked some call (nights) and flexi time so there was never any overtime or call fees. Had some aggro from the core midwives as they were not level two but then most of them did not take on any of the extra responsability that we did and a large proportion of the core staff were ones who only wanted to come to work, not get stretched too far so stay in the AN PN ward and collect the pay. Forget all about it when you go home. All were given an opportunity to be on a team from the beginning. Cheers Judy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Closure of Liverpool Team Midwifery Project Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 15:52:26 EDT Why can't they come up with a salary payment method for midwives who work in groups/teams? marilyn Judy Chapman Midwife 07 47490764 _ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. Alphia Garrety (Ba. Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Sociology and Justice Studies Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: A book to read
Along the lines of books to read- I know you probably already have read it- but The Red Tent by Anita Diamant is another great book when it comes to midwifery and womens bodies. A private practicing midwife recommended it to me and I loved it. Take Care Alphia At 09:33 PM 24/05/2002 +0930, Jackie Kitschke wrote: I have just read Year of Wonders by Geraldine Brooks and really enjoyed it. It is set in 1666 and describes the fortunes of an English village during the plague through the eyes of a young woman. There is a story line about midwifery and the views of people of that time in relation to midwifery and how they were accused of being witches (I don't want to give the storyline away). Just thought I'd share that with you. Jackie
Re: Closure of Liverpool Team Midwifery Project
I was wondering if anyone ever remembers any type of media reports relating to the closure of the Liverpool Team Midwifery Project?? I find it very surprising that I cannot find anything about this closure within the newspaper archives. There had to be some form of publicity? Thanks Alphia At 12:28 PM 21/05/02 +1000, Judy Chapman wrote: They did work out a salary for the Team Midwives in Mackay but that did not stop them from closing us down. We were all paid as level two so they said that it made us too expensive as there were too many level two's around. We worked some call (nights) and flexi time so there was never any overtime or call fees. Had some aggro from the core midwives as they were not level two but then most of them did not take on any of the extra responsability that we did and a large proportion of the core staff were ones who only wanted to come to work, not get stretched too far so stay in the AN PN ward and collect the pay. Forget all about it when you go home. All were given an opportunity to be on a team from the beginning. Cheers Judy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Closure of Liverpool Team Midwifery Project Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 15:52:26 EDT Why can't they come up with a salary payment method for midwives who work in groups/teams? marilyn Judy Chapman Midwife 07 47490764 _ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. Alphia Garrety (Ba. Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Sociology and Justice Studies Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: breastfeeding survey tool
Hi, I do not have the specific reference you are alluding to- however, there is a website that you might find useful- it is David deVaus' site on his book Survey in Social Research (5th Ed.). On the home page (http://www.social-research.org/ ) you will find the title- press on it and then press on go to links in text. The book is very helpful as well- I am sure you can find it at any University library. Take care Alphia At 11:15 AM 23/05/02 +0800, PaulTracy wrote: Hi all, Am in search of a tool you may know of to assist me in a survey I would like to conduct on long term breastfeeding rates. Basically I would like to document our ward breastfeeding initiation rate and then follow up our ladies at 6 weeks, 3, 6, 9, 12 months to see what the rates are like then. At 6 weeks I would like to send the ladies a survey to fill in re: their breastfeeding experience ie. did they require assistance on the ward with feeding, was the information they were given useful, conflicting etc.. I know I have seen one of these surveys in a piece of literature I once read but can't seem to find it. Any ideas? I would really appreciate any references you could give me, especially if they are easily obtainable. I am also seeking Jen Byrnes E-mail address and phone number. Kind regard Tracy Alphia Garrety (Ba. Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Sociology and Justice Studies Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584
Re: Closure of Liverpool Team Midwifery Project
This is what amazes me about the system in Australia- There have been numerous reports conducted and submitted - beginning with the Shearman report in 1989- which all ask for a marginalized role for the obstetrician- with a call for more shared care and more projects like the Team Midwifery Project. In 1999 there was a Senate Inquiry (which I am sure you all remember) into birthing procedures, where a lot of submissions were calling for the same thing. It seems that all of the recommendations put forth are largely ignored or implemented to varying degrees without enough resources put behind them. I wonder what it will take for proper resources to be put behind Projects such as the one we have been discussing. At 03:52 PM 20/05/02 -0400, you wrote: Why can't they come up with a salary payment method for midwives who work in groups/teams? marilyn Alphia Garrety (Ba. Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Sociology and Justice Studies Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584
PhD, medicalization of childbirth
I wanted to thank everyone for their comments. I am new at this listserv option- so I ended up sending my remarks to individuals rather than to the list. Your comments were great- even those who did not agree with my research. I value your comments and your experiences. Maybe my comment to one of the individuals from your list will help clarify my standpoint. Good question- what do I mean about the desire- I base this on two things. One being a surprisingly large amount of women, within countries such as America and Australia, who are requesting or demanding procedures such as caesarean sections. There have been numerous reports of this within Australian and American media. Mid last year I read an article which describes a pregnancy phobia- a fear of giving birth- they even labelled it tokophobia . This relates back to what I mention above- a request for medical intervention. It seems that, at least in regards to the women interviewed, there is a decreasing amount of trust in ones own body. These women fear birth, they fear the pain and they fear the possible consequences of a vaginal birth (the cosmetic purposes). We have to question where this fear stems from and the subsequent desire for medical intervention. Of course this article was only in the mainstream magazine She. However, we should realize the impact on this type of publication for a mainstream audience. I do not seriously believe that all women desire medical intervention. However, I do believe that in the vast majority of cases, birth within Australia occurs within the medicalised birth paradigm. Even with woman who choose a natural birth- these women are seen as not complying with the norm- the norm being the medicalised birth. Alphia Garrety (Ba. Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Sociology and Justice Studies Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
