RE: SoundForge V8.0 problem continued.

2007-05-14 Thread Jim Noseworthy
John:

How would I resolve that problem?

Thanks.
 

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Hi Jim,
Does SF think perhaps that your mp3 plugin's not registered?
It's a shot in the dark and usually it'd nag you but I've seen it work both
ways where rather then teling you that you had exceeded your encoding limit
and bla bla bla, it just won't let you set custom options for saving an mp3
file.

 Jon



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Hi Again:

The highest bit rate I can choose is 128.

I must have an encoder problem.

Cheers.



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RE: SoundForge V8.0 problem continued.

2007-05-14 Thread Jon C. Pierson
If the plugin's not registered you should have a button which allows you to
enter a code but it only appears when you choose the custom option.
 

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John:

How would I resolve that problem?

Thanks.
 

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Subject: RE: SoundForge V8.0 problem continued.

Hi Jim,
Does SF think perhaps that your mp3 plugin's not registered?
It's a shot in the dark and usually it'd nag you but I've seen it work both
ways where rather then teling you that you had exceeded your encoding limit
and bla bla bla, it just won't let you set custom options for saving an mp3
file.

 Jon



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Hi Again:

The highest bit rate I can choose is 128.

I must have an encoder problem.

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library in Windows MediaPlayer

2007-05-14 Thread Allen
Hi, listers,

I am running Windows Vista Home Premium.  I am trying to add to my library in 
Windows MediaPlayer version 11.  I am pointing at a folder of .mp3 files but I 
can't seem to get the files in a list or if I am, I can't find the list.

Can anyone help me to either properly select a folder and/or get a list of my 
music files?

I am also using System Access from Serotek for my screen reader.

Thanks

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Ederol R09

2007-05-14 Thread Samuel Wilkins
Hello, when I use my Ederol R09, there is a hiss, which I want to get rid of. 
How can I make it so that when I record, I do not get that hiss? 

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Re: Batch file renamer

2007-05-14 Thread Brent Harding
I tried renamer. It got the job done for me where Snapstream generates bad 
names of the form
show title-(short description)-year-month-day.mpg. A few times, I used the 
ability to use variables in renamer to break it down, eliminating the short 
description, and could change to month-day-year format, which could give me 
chronological playback as long as months from different years don't 
duplicate. There's some issues with accessibility with renamer, but it got 
the job done as long as there weren't duplicates, where I'd want to 
add -1, -2, etc before the extension.

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I use multiren (multiple file renamer) which was a PC Magazine shareware 
hit
 a few years back. It's good for typing whole titles plus the mp3 or 
 whatever
 extention into the box and then numbering away.
 It has a creat undo file option which makes one of those old familiar 
 dos
 batch files in case of screw-ups.

 Jon

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 Hi

 Can anyone recommend a good freeware batch file renamer?  I will be using 
 it
 to rename mp3 files though the file type probably should not matter. 
 There
 are many file renamers available.  I tried a couple but they turned out to
 be trial versions or required making changes in the registry.  I thought 
 it
 would be safer to get one others are already using and is less likely to
 contain malware.

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Re: Ederol R09

2007-05-14 Thread Michael Lang
The preamp of the R-09 is a bit noisy. To get rid of the hiss, one has
to use a good quiet external preamp or a loud microphone. the Sound
Professionals have one especially made for the R-09.

   *** Michael Lang ***

You wrote:

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Re: trying to find software which will enable me

2007-05-14 Thread Ken Buxton
Hi Dan;  Well, that sounds good;  *excuse the pun*  grin;  Do you have any 
idea where I can buy Goldwave?  I wonder if there's any low cost type site 
for software?  Instead of saving to my pc, for transferringfrom cassette 
ETC., I'd  like to put any sounds and music typeof 02 stuff directly to a 
cd.  God wave sounds like fun to run even though I have no experience in 
transferring but will learn and besides, I'd probably get help on this list. 
Chow for now;  Ken inToronto;  f
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 Hi Ken,
 What I'm assuming you want to do here, is record stuff from tapes and
 put it onto your pC, if you want to go for something relatively
 inexpensive that'll do the Job, I'd go with GoldWave.  IT's just a
 matter of hooking up your tape recorder to your sound card's line-in
 jack, and changing the appropriate settings in your volume control,
 then you should be able to do it once you have software.
 HTH



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to record, via a  relatively inexpensive software that will enable
me to burn from my cassettetapes various collected
voice/music,  Ealso am not surre that I can attain all of this via
mp3 format;  Also, does anyone know about the new software called
coolsoft?  I think I have the nname, coolware, right.  TXS for any
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Re: trying to find software which will enable me

2007-05-14 Thread Ken Buxton
Hi robert;  jWhen you said via e mail, to Get your software here  do you 
mean that you sell software?  Cheeers; Va3 kb or, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 They don't call us computer brains for nothin!
 Get your software updated here!!!

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 Hi Ken,
 What I'm assuming you want to do here, is record stuff from tapes and
 put it onto your pC, if you want to go for something relatively
 inexpensive that'll do the Job, I'd go with GoldWave.  IT's just a
 matter of hooking up your tape recorder to your sound card's line-in
 jack, and changing the appropriate settings in your volume control,
 then you should be able to do it once you have software.
 HTH



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me to burn from my cassettetapes various collected
voice/music,  Ealso am not surre that I can attain all of this via
mp3 format;  Also, does anyone know about the new software called
coolsoft?  I think I have the nname, coolware, right.  TXS for any
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Re: trying to find software which will enable me

2007-05-14 Thread Larry N
Ken, for Goldwave, go to www.goldwave .com

It runs around $50 CDN.

Larry
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 Hi Dan;  Well, that sounds good;  *excuse the pun*  grin;  Do you have any
 idea where I can buy Goldwave?  I wonder if there's any low cost type site
 for software?  Instead of saving to my pc, for transferringfrom cassette
 ETC., I'd  like to put any sounds and music typeof 02 stuff directly to a
 cd.  God wave sounds like fun to run even though I have no experience in
 transferring but will learn and besides, I'd probably get help on this 
 list.
 Chow for now;  Ken inToronto;  f
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 Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 7:14 PM
 Subject: Re: trying to find software which will enable me


 Hi Ken,
 What I'm assuming you want to do here, is record stuff from tapes and
 put it onto your pC, if you want to go for something relatively
 inexpensive that'll do the Job, I'd go with GoldWave.  IT's just a
 matter of hooking up your tape recorder to your sound card's line-in
 jack, and changing the appropriate settings in your volume control,
 then you should be able to do it once you have software.
 HTH



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to record, via a  relatively inexpensive software that will enable
me to burn from my cassettetapes various collected
voice/music,  Ealso am not surre that I can attain all of this via
mp3 format;  Also, does anyone know about the new software called
coolsoft?  I think I have the nname, coolware, right.  TXS for any
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RE: crashing and problems burning winammp with vista

2007-05-14 Thread Paul Henrichsen
Hi. I am using the latest winamp with vista without any problems. However, I
am not burning cd's.


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Hi, I'm new here. I have a question reguarding winamp and vista. I'm unable
to burn cds with it, and it crashes constantly. Are there any free players
that work good with vista and also burn audio cds? Or, could someone tell me
the easiest way to burn a cd with media player 11? I'm using window-eyes 6.1

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Re: trying to find software which will enable me

2007-05-14 Thread Ricque
Try:
www.goldwave.com

Richard Justice
www.blind-computing.com
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Subject: Re: trying to find software which will enable me


 Hi Dan;  Well, that sounds good;  *excuse the pun*  grin;  Do you have any
 idea where I can buy Goldwave?  I wonder if there's any low cost type site
 for software?  Instead of saving to my pc, for transferringfrom cassette
 ETC., I'd  like to put any sounds and music typeof 02 stuff directly to a
 cd.  God wave sounds like fun to run even though I have no experience in
 transferring but will learn and besides, I'd probably get help on this 
 list.
 Chow for now;  Ken inToronto;  f
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 Hi Ken,
 What I'm assuming you want to do here, is record stuff from tapes and
 put it onto your pC, if you want to go for something relatively
 inexpensive that'll do the Job, I'd go with GoldWave.  IT's just a
 matter of hooking up your tape recorder to your sound card's line-in
 jack, and changing the appropriate settings in your volume control,
 then you should be able to do it once you have software.
 HTH



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to record, via a  relatively inexpensive software that will enable
me to burn from my cassettetapes various collected
voice/music,  Ealso am not surre that I can attain all of this via
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coolsoft?  I think I have the nname, coolware, right.  TXS for any
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Re: trying to find software which will enable me

2007-05-14 Thread Dan Eickmeier
Ya check out www.goldwave.com


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Hi Dan;  Well, that sounds good;  *excuse the pun*  grin;  Do you have any
idea where I can buy Goldwave?  I wonder if there's any low cost type site
for software?  Instead of saving to my pc, for transferringfrom cassette
ETC., I'd  like to put any sounds and music typeof 02 stuff directly to a
cd.  God wave sounds like fun to run even though I have no experience in
transferring but will learn and besides, I'd probably get help on this list.
Chow for now;  Ken inToronto;  f
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  Hi Ken,
  What I'm assuming you want to do here, is record stuff from tapes and
  put it onto your pC, if you want to go for something relatively
  inexpensive that'll do the Job, I'd go with GoldWave.  IT's just a
  matter of hooking up your tape recorder to your sound card's line-in
  jack, and changing the appropriate settings in your volume control,
  then you should be able to do it once you have software.
  HTH
 
 
 
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 me to burn from my cassettetapes various collected
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Fwd: Article: Audio Menus for iPods

2007-05-14 Thread Steve Pattison

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: David Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I thought this was very interesting ...

Dave

Technology Review
Tuesday, May 08, 2007

Audio Menus for iPods

By Kate Greene

Download an MP3 version of this story
http://www.audiodizer.com/technologyreview/infotech/download.aspx?id=18

703 Researchers are testing ways to let people listen to gadget menu
options
instead of looking at them.

Clicking through the menu on your iPod demands a significant
amount of
visual attention, which can be a hassle (while jogging) and even
dangerous
(while driving). But engineers at the University of Toronto and
Microsoft
Research are working on software that could make it possible to
navigate
the menus of gadgets that use circular touch pads, like the iPod,
without
looking at them--only audio cues would be used.

The researchers have designed an auditory menu technique--called
earPod--that provides audio feedback when a person drags his or
her finger
around the touch pad. Although it's not ready to replace the
expansive
menus on real iPods, the results are encouraging, says Patrick
Baudisch, a
research scientist at Microsoft Research, in Seattle, who worked
on the
project.

LINK:
http://www.patrickbaudisch.com/

Within 30 minutes of beginning to use the technology, people can
navigate
two levels of earPod menus faster than traditional visual menus,
and just
as accurately.

Requiring constant visual attention while using a PC is
reasonable,
says
Baudisch, but if you're using an iPod on the road, [constant
visual
attention] is unreasonable. In addition to giving people back
their eyes,
he says, audio menus could help gadgets save battery life by not
wasting
energy on a screen, and they could add functions to the
screen-free
devices such as the iPod shuffle.

The idea of using audio menus isn't new. Auditory interfaces can,
after
all, be found in touch-tone phone menus and in various assisted
technologies for seeing-impaired users. But historically, handheld

consumer gadgets haven't widely used audio menus. There are a few
reasons
for this, says Bruce Walker, professor in the school of psychology
and
college of computing at Georgia Institute of Technology.

LINK:
http://sonify.psych.gatech.edu/~walkerb/

One reason, he says, is that audio hardware and software have
been
resource intensive, requiring significant amounts of computation
and
energy. In addition, audio software has been difficult to
program.

But computing power is becoming cheaper, and there is an
increasing
need
to find different ways to interact with handheld devices, says
Walker.
Within the past 10 years, he says, the ubiquity of mobile devices
with
small displays has made us all visually impaired. Currently
there are
only a handful of researchers who are systematically looking at
ways to
make better audio interfaces for various devices, but Walker
expects the
ranks to grow in the coming years.

This first earPod prototype has a two-level menu hierarchy with 8
items
per category, for a total of 64 items. To test how well people use
the
system, the researchers assigned to the first menu level a random

assortment of categories: clothing, fish, instrument,
color, and
four others. The next level contained eight examples of these
items. The
iPod analogy would be found in the opening menu, which includes
music,
extras, settings, and then lower menus that include
playlists,
artists, and albums, for instance. The earPod approach could
be
extended to read off a limited number of names of artists and
songs as
well.

EarPod was designed specifically for gadgets with circular touch
pads,
says Baudisch. The circular touch pad is evenly divided into eight

sectors: it's cut like pieces of a pie, with each menu item
associated
with each piece. When a person touches the dial of an
earPod-equipped
gadget, the audio menu responds with a prerecorded human voice. If
a
person puts his or her finger at 12 o'clock on the touch pad, the
voice
might say Color, indicating that the finger is on the color
sector. When
the finger crosses one of these invisible sector lines, the user
hears a
clicking sound. As a finger moves, a new menu item is announced.
To select
an item and go to the next menu level, the user lifts his or her
finger
and hears a camera-shutter sound, which indicates that an item
has been
chosen.

Because the touch pad is divided into portions, says Baudisch,
people
can
easily learn where menu items are and quickly jump to certain
items
without having to scroll through a list, as with an iPod. Another
feature
of earPod, he says, is that a user doesn't need to wait until a
menu item
is read before moving on to another. When a finger moves to a new
sector,
the audio is interrupted and the new item is announced.

In the earPod usability study, conducted by Shengdong Zhao, a
doctoral
student at the University of Toronto, and project lead, the
researchers
found that people who had no experience using either an iPod or an

earPod-equipped device used the 

Re: Article: Audio Menus for iPods

2007-05-14 Thread John Price
Hello Steeve,
I just red your posting about the talking ipodder.
I've always wanted an eyepodder, but I didn't thank that it would work for 
me because of the fact that I'm blind.
If they pull this earpodder off, I will be the first in line at Cirket City 
to get one.
I hope this talking eye/earpodder will be avillable soon.
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: David Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I thought this was very interesting ...

 Dave

 Technology Review
 Tuesday, May 08, 2007

 Audio Menus for iPods

 By Kate Greene

 Download an MP3 version of this story
 http://www.audiodizer.com/technologyreview/infotech/download.aspx?id=18

 703 Researchers are testing ways to let people listen to gadget menu
 options
 instead of looking at them.

 Clicking through the menu on your iPod demands a significant
 amount of
 visual attention, which can be a hassle (while jogging) and even
 dangerous
 (while driving). But engineers at the University of Toronto and
 Microsoft
 Research are working on software that could make it possible to
 navigate
 the menus of gadgets that use circular touch pads, like the iPod,
 without
 looking at them--only audio cues would be used.

 The researchers have designed an auditory menu technique--called
 earPod--that provides audio feedback when a person drags his or
 her finger
 around the touch pad. Although it's not ready to replace the
 expansive
 menus on real iPods, the results are encouraging, says Patrick
 Baudisch, a
 research scientist at Microsoft Research, in Seattle, who worked
 on the
 project.

 LINK:
 http://www.patrickbaudisch.com/

 Within 30 minutes of beginning to use the technology, people can
 navigate
 two levels of earPod menus faster than traditional visual menus,
 and just
 as accurately.

 Requiring constant visual attention while using a PC is
 reasonable,
 says
 Baudisch, but if you're using an iPod on the road, [constant
 visual
 attention] is unreasonable. In addition to giving people back
 their eyes,
 he says, audio menus could help gadgets save battery life by not
 wasting
 energy on a screen, and they could add functions to the
 screen-free
 devices such as the iPod shuffle.

 The idea of using audio menus isn't new. Auditory interfaces can,
 after
 all, be found in touch-tone phone menus and in various assisted
 technologies for seeing-impaired users. But historically, handheld

 consumer gadgets haven't widely used audio menus. There are a few
 reasons
 for this, says Bruce Walker, professor in the school of psychology
 and
 college of computing at Georgia Institute of Technology.

 LINK:
 http://sonify.psych.gatech.edu/~walkerb/

 One reason, he says, is that audio hardware and software have
 been
 resource intensive, requiring significant amounts of computation
 and
 energy. In addition, audio software has been difficult to
 program.

 But computing power is becoming cheaper, and there is an
 increasing
 need
 to find different ways to interact with handheld devices, says
 Walker.
 Within the past 10 years, he says, the ubiquity of mobile devices
 with
 small displays has made us all visually impaired. Currently
 there are
 only a handful of researchers who are systematically looking at
 ways to
 make better audio interfaces for various devices, but Walker
 expects the
 ranks to grow in the coming years.

 This first earPod prototype has a two-level menu hierarchy with 8
 items
 per category, for a total of 64 items. To test how well people use
 the
 system, the researchers assigned to the first menu level a random

 assortment of categories: clothing, fish, instrument,
 color, and
 four others. The next level contained eight examples of these
 items. The
 iPod analogy would be found in the opening menu, which includes
 music,
 extras, settings, and then lower menus that include
 playlists,
 artists, and albums, for instance. The earPod approach could
 be
 extended to read off a limited number of names of artists and
 songs as
 well.

 EarPod was designed specifically for gadgets with circular touch
 pads,
 says Baudisch. The circular touch pad is evenly divided into eight

 sectors: it's cut like pieces of a pie, with each menu item
 associated
 with each piece. When a person touches the dial of an
 earPod-equipped
 gadget, the audio menu responds with a prerecorded human voice. If
 a
 person puts his or her finger at 12 o'clock on the touch pad, the
 voice
 might say Color, indicating that the finger is on the color
 sector. When
 the finger crosses one of these invisible sector lines, the user
 hears a
 clicking sound. As a finger moves, a new menu item is announced.
 To select
 an item and go to the next menu level, the user lifts his or her
 finger
 and hears a camera-shutter sound, which indicates that an item
 has been
 chosen.

 

RockBox on IPOD

2007-05-14 Thread David Tanner
Ok, this is probably a simple one for you RockBox fans.  

I just installed RockBox on my Color Photo 60 this past weekend, and I am very 
pleased with it, and love the VW Paul voice.  

So, two questions.
1.  Can we access and use the calendar and contacts? And, do they sync with 
Outlook or Outlook Express?

2.  Are there any of the plug-ins that work with speech?  I am sure a lot of 
them don't, but I wondered about such things as the text editor.

Thanks,
D. T.

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Re: RockBox on IPOD

2007-05-14 Thread Keith Gillard

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Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 8:52 PM
Subject: RockBox on IPOD


Ok, this is probably a simple one for you RockBox fans.

I just installed RockBox on my Color Photo 60 this past weekend, and I am 
very pleased with it, and love the VW Paul voice.

So, two questions.
1.  Can we access and use the calendar and contacts?
**NO. And, do they sync with Outlook or Outlook Express?
**NO

2.  Are there any of the plug-ins that work with speech?  I am sure a lot of 
them don't, but I wondered about such things as the text editor.

**NO not at this time...KG

Thanks,
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Re: Article: Audio Menus for iPods

2007-05-14 Thread Thomas \(TJ\) Olsen
Hi
well while we've not yet heard of the ipodder, we would like to inform you 
that you do not need to wait for this (most likely pricey) add on for an 
ipod to navigate one while totally blind. rockbox.org provides a similar, 
but much more advanced system of navigating many models of mp3 players using 
a voiced user interface. I very highly recommend looking in to it. I use it 
flawlessly to use my ihp 120.

tj

tj
- Original Message - 
From: John Price [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: Article: Audio Menus for iPods


 Hello Steeve,
 I just red your posting about the talking ipodder.
 I've always wanted an eyepodder, but I didn't thank that it would work for
 me because of the fact that I'm blind.
 If they pull this earpodder off, I will be the first in line at Cirket 
 City
 to get one.
 I hope this talking eye/earpodder will be avillable soon.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Steve Pattison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Access-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PC Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 9:34 PM
 Subject: Fwd: Article: Audio Menus for iPods



To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: David Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I thought this was very interesting ...

 Dave

 Technology Review
 Tuesday, May 08, 2007

 Audio Menus for iPods

 By Kate Greene

 Download an MP3 version of this story
 http://www.audiodizer.com/technologyreview/infotech/download.aspx?id=18

 703 Researchers are testing ways to let people listen to gadget menu
 options
 instead of looking at them.

 Clicking through the menu on your iPod demands a significant
 amount of
 visual attention, which can be a hassle (while jogging) and even
 dangerous
 (while driving). But engineers at the University of Toronto and
 Microsoft
 Research are working on software that could make it possible to
 navigate
 the menus of gadgets that use circular touch pads, like the iPod,
 without
 looking at them--only audio cues would be used.

 The researchers have designed an auditory menu technique--called
 earPod--that provides audio feedback when a person drags his or
 her finger
 around the touch pad. Although it's not ready to replace the
 expansive
 menus on real iPods, the results are encouraging, says Patrick
 Baudisch, a
 research scientist at Microsoft Research, in Seattle, who worked
 on the
 project.

 LINK:
 http://www.patrickbaudisch.com/

 Within 30 minutes of beginning to use the technology, people can
 navigate
 two levels of earPod menus faster than traditional visual menus,
 and just
 as accurately.

 Requiring constant visual attention while using a PC is
 reasonable,
 says
 Baudisch, but if you're using an iPod on the road, [constant
 visual
 attention] is unreasonable. In addition to giving people back
 their eyes,
 he says, audio menus could help gadgets save battery life by not
 wasting
 energy on a screen, and they could add functions to the
 screen-free
 devices such as the iPod shuffle.

 The idea of using audio menus isn't new. Auditory interfaces can,
 after
 all, be found in touch-tone phone menus and in various assisted
 technologies for seeing-impaired users. But historically, handheld

 consumer gadgets haven't widely used audio menus. There are a few
 reasons
 for this, says Bruce Walker, professor in the school of psychology
 and
 college of computing at Georgia Institute of Technology.

 LINK:
 http://sonify.psych.gatech.edu/~walkerb/

 One reason, he says, is that audio hardware and software have
 been
 resource intensive, requiring significant amounts of computation
 and
 energy. In addition, audio software has been difficult to
 program.

 But computing power is becoming cheaper, and there is an
 increasing
 need
 to find different ways to interact with handheld devices, says
 Walker.
 Within the past 10 years, he says, the ubiquity of mobile devices
 with
 small displays has made us all visually impaired. Currently
 there are
 only a handful of researchers who are systematically looking at
 ways to
 make better audio interfaces for various devices, but Walker
 expects the
 ranks to grow in the coming years.

 This first earPod prototype has a two-level menu hierarchy with 8
 items
 per category, for a total of 64 items. To test how well people use
 the
 system, the researchers assigned to the first menu level a random

 assortment of categories: clothing, fish, instrument,
 color, and
 four others. The next level contained eight examples of these
 items. The
 iPod analogy would be found in the opening menu, which includes
 music,
 extras, settings, and then lower menus that include
 playlists,
 artists, and albums, for instance. The earPod approach could
 be
 extended to read off a limited number of names of artists and
 songs as
 well.

 EarPod was designed specifically for gadgets with circular touch
 pads,
 says Baudisch. The circular touch pad is evenly divided into eight

 sectors: it's cut like pieces of a pie, with 

Re: Article: Audio Menus for iPods

2007-05-14 Thread David Tanner
Well, I'll tell you what.  After using the RockBox software on my IPOD for 4 
days I would say that the day of the talking IPod is here.  If you can use the 
speech on a PC you can definately use the speech that RockBox gives you to 
access your IPOD.  The improvements in the software, and in the ease of 
installation in the past year have made it a quite reasonable solution for 
making IPOD accessible to the blind user.



- Original Message - 
From: John Price [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: Article: Audio Menus for iPods


: Hello Steeve,
: I just red your posting about the talking ipodder.
: I've always wanted an eyepodder, but I didn't thank that it would work for 
: me because of the fact that I'm blind.
: If they pull this earpodder off, I will be the first in line at Cirket City 
: to get one.
: I hope this talking eye/earpodder will be avillable soon.
: - Original Message - 
: From: Steve Pattison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: To: Access-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PC Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
: Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 9:34 PM
: Subject: Fwd: Article: Audio Menus for iPods
: 
: 
: 
: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: From: David Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: 
:  I thought this was very interesting ...
: 
:  Dave
: 
:  Technology Review
:  Tuesday, May 08, 2007
: 
:  Audio Menus for iPods
: 
:  By Kate Greene
: 
:  Download an MP3 version of this story
:  http://www.audiodizer.com/technologyreview/infotech/download.aspx?id=18
: 
:  703 Researchers are testing ways to let people listen to gadget menu
:  options
:  instead of looking at them.
: 
:  Clicking through the menu on your iPod demands a significant
:  amount of
:  visual attention, which can be a hassle (while jogging) and even
:  dangerous
:  (while driving). But engineers at the University of Toronto and
:  Microsoft
:  Research are working on software that could make it possible to
:  navigate
:  the menus of gadgets that use circular touch pads, like the iPod,
:  without
:  looking at them--only audio cues would be used.
: 
:  The researchers have designed an auditory menu technique--called
:  earPod--that provides audio feedback when a person drags his or
:  her finger
:  around the touch pad. Although it's not ready to replace the
:  expansive
:  menus on real iPods, the results are encouraging, says Patrick
:  Baudisch, a
:  research scientist at Microsoft Research, in Seattle, who worked
:  on the
:  project.
: 
:  LINK:
:  http://www.patrickbaudisch.com/
: 
:  Within 30 minutes of beginning to use the technology, people can
:  navigate
:  two levels of earPod menus faster than traditional visual menus,
:  and just
:  as accurately.
: 
:  Requiring constant visual attention while using a PC is
:  reasonable,
:  says
:  Baudisch, but if you're using an iPod on the road, [constant
:  visual
:  attention] is unreasonable. In addition to giving people back
:  their eyes,
:  he says, audio menus could help gadgets save battery life by not
:  wasting
:  energy on a screen, and they could add functions to the
:  screen-free
:  devices such as the iPod shuffle.
: 
:  The idea of using audio menus isn't new. Auditory interfaces can,
:  after
:  all, be found in touch-tone phone menus and in various assisted
:  technologies for seeing-impaired users. But historically, handheld
: 
:  consumer gadgets haven't widely used audio menus. There are a few
:  reasons
:  for this, says Bruce Walker, professor in the school of psychology
:  and
:  college of computing at Georgia Institute of Technology.
: 
:  LINK:
:  http://sonify.psych.gatech.edu/~walkerb/
: 
:  One reason, he says, is that audio hardware and software have
:  been
:  resource intensive, requiring significant amounts of computation
:  and
:  energy. In addition, audio software has been difficult to
:  program.
: 
:  But computing power is becoming cheaper, and there is an
:  increasing
:  need
:  to find different ways to interact with handheld devices, says
:  Walker.
:  Within the past 10 years, he says, the ubiquity of mobile devices
:  with
:  small displays has made us all visually impaired. Currently
:  there are
:  only a handful of researchers who are systematically looking at
:  ways to
:  make better audio interfaces for various devices, but Walker
:  expects the
:  ranks to grow in the coming years.
: 
:  This first earPod prototype has a two-level menu hierarchy with 8
:  items
:  per category, for a total of 64 items. To test how well people use
:  the
:  system, the researchers assigned to the first menu level a random
: 
:  assortment of categories: clothing, fish, instrument,
:  color, and
:  four others. The next level contained eight examples of these
:  items. The
:  iPod analogy would be found in the opening menu, which includes
:  music,
:  extras, settings, and then lower menus that include
:  playlists,
:  artists, and albums, for instance. The earPod approach could
:  be
:  extended 

Re: RockBox on IPOD

2007-05-14 Thread David Tanner
Thanks, I wish the answers were better, but considering the level of access to 
the music I certainly can't complain.


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Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: RockBox on IPOD


: 
: David Tanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 8:52 PM
: Subject: RockBox on IPOD
: 
: 
: Ok, this is probably a simple one for you RockBox fans.
: 
: I just installed RockBox on my Color Photo 60 this past weekend, and I am 
: very pleased with it, and love the VW Paul voice.
: 
: So, two questions.
: 1.  Can we access and use the calendar and contacts?
: **NO. And, do they sync with Outlook or Outlook Express?
: **NO
: 
: 2.  Are there any of the plug-ins that work with speech?  I am sure a lot of 
: them don't, but I wondered about such things as the text editor.
: 
: **NO not at this time...KG
: 
: Thanks,
: D. T.
: 
: Skype user name: dtat100
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