Re: creative zen stone
Hi. You really don't need the creative media lite utility as far as actually transfering files to the player is concerned. You can simply use windows explorer and transfer them just as you would any other drive that shows up under windows explorer. How cool is that! No extra software to use, none of that. Do you have a bit of usable vision? If so, there is a small orange LED light on the player that continually flashes while it's charging, and when it's completely charged, the light stays on. How I do it is I just plug it into the USB port when I'm not using it. It makes sure that I don't lose the player, and it also makes sure that it's fully charged all the time. So yep, you can use the program, but you really don't have to, unless you're super curious. go to http://www.creative.com/zenstone and it's there. Hope that helps. At 09:43 PM 7/19/2007, you wrote: >Hi, >Several people have mentioned the creative media lite utility, and how you >can monitor the zen stone's charging process with this utility. >Where can I find this utility? >I got no CD or anything with my zen stone. I just plugged it in my USB >port, and it was ready to go. >Any help with this would be appreciated. >And I have the 1 GB Creative Zen Stone. > >Thanks, >Chris > >- Original Message - >From: "Christopher Chaltain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "PC audio discussion list." >Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:01 PM >Subject: Re: creative zen stone > > > > My Zen Stone doesn't play while it's hooked up to the computer. You > > don't have to wait until it's fully charged before you start listening > > to it though! :-) I haven't timed how long it takes to charge, but the > > Creative Media Lite utility will give you the current charge on the Zen > > Stone, so you can monitor it's charging process with that utility. > > > > Chris Chaffin wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I just got my new zen stone today in the mail. > >> I just plugged it up to my computer. How long does it take to charge > >> initially? > >> And do I have to wait until it is done charging, or will it play while it > >> is > >> hooked up to the computer charging? > >> I just did not know if it can get its power from the USB port to play > >> while > >> it is charging. > >> > >> All help is appreciated. > >> Chris > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > >> http://www.pc-audio.org > >> > >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > > Christopher > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > > http://www.pc-audio.org > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >http://www.pc-audio.org > >To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >__ NOD32 2408 (20070719) Information __ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.eset.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: recorders
It is also a recorder that is recommended for broadcast professionals. - Original Message - From: "Samuel Wilkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 4:15 AM Subject: Re: recorders >I find that the best one is the Ederol R09. It has two microphones in >stereo > and it has an automatic gain control. This means that if someone is > speaking > quietly, the recorder can make it louder and vice versa. It also have > something called deep frequency cut or something like that which filters > out > wind noise and other things like that. Try googleing Ederol R09. > Samuel Wilkins > Email > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Skype Cleverclogs6953 > MSN Instant Messenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] > A O L Instant Messenger Samuel4851 > - Original Message - > From: "sean waiting" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 9:36 PM > Subject: recorders > > >> Dear Friends >> >> I need a decent record for meetings and I would like to know what is the >> best recorder to use please and where can I get from in the uk please. >> >> all the best from sean waiting. >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.5/899 - Release Date: >> 13/07/2007 >> 15:41 >> >> > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.6/900 - Release Date: 14/07/2007 > 3:36 PM > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: W4a files I mean m4a.
Well,I goofed. It should have been m4a. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:29 PM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: W4a files Right, I miss-read this message the first time around, I thought you were referring to mp4 files, the files you're downloading I can't comment on really but I suspect they're a varriant of what I've already written about in my previous message. On 20/07/2007, at 4:07 AM, Frank Brown wrote: Hello, I've downloaded m4a and m4b files from the ABC and CNN web sites. These are the files you get when you try to download some of their podcasts. My guess is that they are Itunes files. As was mentioned earlier, they can also be played in Winamp. Frank Brown Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone uk 0121 288 4976 Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 Fax +61 3 9743 7954 mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 Skype: callto:grtdane12 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server authentication. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: creative zen stone
Hi, Several people have mentioned the creative media lite utility, and how you can monitor the zen stone's charging process with this utility. Where can I find this utility? I got no CD or anything with my zen stone. I just plugged it in my USB port, and it was ready to go. Any help with this would be appreciated. And I have the 1 GB Creative Zen Stone. Thanks, Chris - Original Message - From: "Christopher Chaltain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list." Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:01 PM Subject: Re: creative zen stone > My Zen Stone doesn't play while it's hooked up to the computer. You > don't have to wait until it's fully charged before you start listening > to it though! :-) I haven't timed how long it takes to charge, but the > Creative Media Lite utility will give you the current charge on the Zen > Stone, so you can monitor it's charging process with that utility. > > Chris Chaffin wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I just got my new zen stone today in the mail. >> I just plugged it up to my computer. How long does it take to charge >> initially? >> And do I have to wait until it is done charging, or will it play while it >> is >> hooked up to the computer charging? >> I just did not know if it can get its power from the USB port to play >> while >> it is charging. >> >> All help is appreciated. >> Chris >> >> >> >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> > > -- > Christopher > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Transferring music to the computer from a mp3 player
I need directions on how to transfer music from a mp3 player to a computer. Thanks. Terri Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Weighing Up accessability
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Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin
I agree with you in all respects other than blind people being any better or worse than other people in any respects. bruce -- Bruce Toews Skype ID: o.canada E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Christopher Chaltain wrote: > I agree there are plenty of people who seem to like to complain even > though they don't know what they're talking about, but I don't think the > blind are any more prone to doing this than the general population. I > would like to think that the blind are better than the general > population in many respects, but I think the fact of the matter is that > we're all human and that includes the bad along with the good. I'd like > to say I get a laugh out of people who paint the blind with such broad > strokes, but I resent stereotyping like this whether it comes from > within the disabled community or without. > > On another subject, I've seen people praising Apple for their attention > to accessibility, and although the iPod and the iPhone may have some > features built into them with accessibility in mind, the fact of the > matter is that these products came to the market and were not > accessible. I realize that not every product will be accessible, and I'm > not sure every product needs to be, but I really don't think Apple is > any better than any other company with respect to making their products > accessible. > > I also must admit, I don't always see the appeal of the Apple products, > other than they are stylish. I've had Creative alternatives to the iPod > Shuffle, an iRiver MP3 player running Rockbox and a cell phone running a > screen reader with an MP3 player, digital camera and a bunch of other > features. All of these products are less expensive than their Apple > counterparts, and are generally much more accessible. > > Dane Trethowan wrote: >> I must admit, I get a good laugh out of some people who just hunt >> around for excuses without actually reading fact, I guess that's the >> "blind" for you, easier to knock something than read or research >> something or try something. >> The I phone I admit is not perfect but neither are a million other >> products but yet most are usable with a little forethought, at the >> present stage the Ip phone cannot be used by a totally blind person >> because of the nature of its design and in a previous message I >> posted a way that this problem could be rectified. I also said that >> if you went to the pages pertaining to the I Phone, you could bring >> up the Accessability pages and you would discover that many >> accessability features have been built-in to help people including >> people with low vision, deafness etc. I'll be perfectly frank with >> all of you, as I'm deaf-blind, I may consider purchasing this phone >> in the future for the main benefit of accessing its "TTY" >> capabilities. Obviously I'm not going to waste my money until I find >> out how these work but as I use a "TTY" allot of my time then this >> feature (assuming I can get it to work somehow) will be highly useful >> for my communications needs etc. >> >> On 19/07/2007, at 11:38 PM, Keith Gillard wrote: >> >> Yup. If your visually impaired you might be able to squint and see the >> phone. Just another way to burn out what vision you may have left. >> >> It's really too bad though, as a simple MP3 talk clip style TTS of >> each menu >> and function would make this phone a real option for blind folk...Keith >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " >> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 3:50 AM >> Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin >> >> >> Indeed and you'll find that Apple have done everything as far as the >> design allows to build accessability into this phone, go and look up >> I Phone accessability and you'll find at least 2 pages listing >> accessability features on this device. >> >> On 19/07/2007, at 4:41 PM, Gary Wood wrote: >> >> Well if Apple says that they want to put accessible products in the >> blind >> marketplace, we should call them on this issue. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Don Ball" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " >> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 7:56 PM >> Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin >> >> >> >>> maybe it has a touch screen like the I Phone. Still don't know why >>> blindness >>> organizations aren't calling them on that but I gues they don't >>> fill that >>> is >>> worth the trouble. >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Keith Gillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:48 PM >>> Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin >>> >>> >>> Thankfully yes! >>> >>> The majority of the sighted
Re: Weighing Up accessability
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Re: creative zen stone
My Zen Stone doesn't play while it's hooked up to the computer. You don't have to wait until it's fully charged before you start listening to it though! :-) I haven't timed how long it takes to charge, but the Creative Media Lite utility will give you the current charge on the Zen Stone, so you can monitor it's charging process with that utility. Chris Chaffin wrote: > Hi all, > > I just got my new zen stone today in the mail. > I just plugged it up to my computer. How long does it take to charge > initially? > And do I have to wait until it is done charging, or will it play while it is > hooked up to the computer charging? > I just did not know if it can get its power from the USB port to play while > it is charging. > > All help is appreciated. > Chris > > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- Christopher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin
I agree there are plenty of people who seem to like to complain even though they don't know what they're talking about, but I don't think the blind are any more prone to doing this than the general population. I would like to think that the blind are better than the general population in many respects, but I think the fact of the matter is that we're all human and that includes the bad along with the good. I'd like to say I get a laugh out of people who paint the blind with such broad strokes, but I resent stereotyping like this whether it comes from within the disabled community or without. On another subject, I've seen people praising Apple for their attention to accessibility, and although the iPod and the iPhone may have some features built into them with accessibility in mind, the fact of the matter is that these products came to the market and were not accessible. I realize that not every product will be accessible, and I'm not sure every product needs to be, but I really don't think Apple is any better than any other company with respect to making their products accessible. I also must admit, I don't always see the appeal of the Apple products, other than they are stylish. I've had Creative alternatives to the iPod Shuffle, an iRiver MP3 player running Rockbox and a cell phone running a screen reader with an MP3 player, digital camera and a bunch of other features. All of these products are less expensive than their Apple counterparts, and are generally much more accessible. Dane Trethowan wrote: > I must admit, I get a good laugh out of some people who just hunt > around for excuses without actually reading fact, I guess that's the > "blind" for you, easier to knock something than read or research > something or try something. > The I phone I admit is not perfect but neither are a million other > products but yet most are usable with a little forethought, at the > present stage the Ip phone cannot be used by a totally blind person > because of the nature of its design and in a previous message I > posted a way that this problem could be rectified. I also said that > if you went to the pages pertaining to the I Phone, you could bring > up the Accessability pages and you would discover that many > accessability features have been built-in to help people including > people with low vision, deafness etc. I'll be perfectly frank with > all of you, as I'm deaf-blind, I may consider purchasing this phone > in the future for the main benefit of accessing its "TTY" > capabilities. Obviously I'm not going to waste my money until I find > out how these work but as I use a "TTY" allot of my time then this > feature (assuming I can get it to work somehow) will be highly useful > for my communications needs etc. > > On 19/07/2007, at 11:38 PM, Keith Gillard wrote: > > Yup. If your visually impaired you might be able to squint and see the > phone. Just another way to burn out what vision you may have left. > > It's really too bad though, as a simple MP3 talk clip style TTS of > each menu > and function would make this phone a real option for blind folk...Keith > > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 3:50 AM > Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > > Indeed and you'll find that Apple have done everything as far as the > design allows to build accessability into this phone, go and look up > I Phone accessability and you'll find at least 2 pages listing > accessability features on this device. > > On 19/07/2007, at 4:41 PM, Gary Wood wrote: > > Well if Apple says that they want to put accessible products in the > blind > marketplace, we should call them on this issue. > - Original Message - > From: "Don Ball" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 7:56 PM > Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > > >> maybe it has a touch screen like the I Phone. Still don't know why >> blindness >> organizations aren't calling them on that but I gues they don't >> fill that >> is >> worth the trouble. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Keith Gillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " >> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:48 PM >> Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin >> >> >> Thankfully yes! >> >> The majority of the sighted market. >> >> definitely not the accessible market >> >> I've been using a 120 gig hard drive on an accessible jukebox for >> three >> years now. >> >> It's nice to see that Apple is finally catching up. >> >> kG. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " >> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:35 PM >> Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin >> >> >> Well yep, I get that from my phone too but I don't get a 120 gig hard >> drive and I'm afraid that I'm not going to lose any sle
hand bells
Hello. i know this is probably off topic, so if noting else, I would appreciate it if someone could point me in the direction of a list where this topic might be more appropriate. I just joined the women's hand bell choir at my church, and the director and I are looking for ways to make my participation easier. I can't read braille sheet music, but aside from that, I'm open to any ideas that anyone might have. If anyone out there has experience with handbells and would be willing to correspond with me off list, I would really appreciate it a lot. Missy - Original Message - From: "Cameron Strife" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 7:34 PM Subject: music gear for sale Hi. Here's my updated list of everything I've got for sale. pay pal is prefered. Buyer pays shipping. If anyone lives in the New York City/Westchester area, or is in Jersey, I've got some furniture and other stuff including a recording studio daw workstation desk for sale as well because I'm moving in August. hit me up if interested in office/home furniture and the like and I'll drop you a list of that. (And sorry, stuff not on this list can't be shipped.) Please contact me off list at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Creative labs zen xtra nomad jukebox video 60 gig mp3 player, comes with power supply, nearly sixty gigs of music, drivers and software on CD rom, and USB cable. $199 Ibanez RG7620 seven string electric guitar, made in japan, near mint, perfect setup, comes with strap locks, strap, whammy bar, tools, and Ibanez locking hard case. $549 Larrivee Lv03 acoustic electric, totally mint, never gigged, never taken out of my home. All solid woods, active preamp, single cutaway, comes with blank warranty card, fitted flight case, etc. $949 M Audio keystation pro eighty eight, 88 key weighted hammer action USB MIDI controller, mint. nine faders, twenty four encoder dials, pitch and mod wheels, etc. $275 Line 6 vetta 130w fully updated 2x12 combo amp with large format Line 6 floor controller, upgraded to Vetta 2, this thing is amazing! Comes with all cables etc. Great for stage or studio! $989 Carlo Ribelli 12 string acoustic with set of new strings and deluxe gig bag, mint. $149 Marshall electronics S90 small diaphram condenser microphone with case and clip, mint. $65 Sound forge 7 bundle with CD architect and noise reduction, boxed. $99 2x12 amp road case with room for floorboard and cables etc. has wheels and handles, mint. $125 $99if you buy the Vetta combo! High quality Plantronics USB headset w/noise canceling mic. Sound is very clean! Mint, used twice, plug and play. (The quality is great but it doesn't fit in my laptop case, hence the sale.) $30 Hp deskjet 820 Cse Ink jet printer, good cond, comes with power cable $25 HP deskjet 3820 Ink jet printer, full color, never used, totally mint, USB, comes with color and black and white cartridges, never used. Needs power supply. $40 Tascam 2488 24 bit 24 track DAW with pro SKB fitted flight case, Mint! Used for two sessions only. Unit has not been registered with Tascam. $749 PCMCIA wireless Yfi card for laptop $40 Audio Books: The complete NIV Bible on audio cd, comes in leather CD binder. mint. $79 Bad Company By Jack Higgins Six CDs $30 The Republic By Plato Four CDs $19 Blowfly By Patricia Cornwall Thirteen CDs $40 Second Chance By James Patterson Five CDs $25 Portrait of a Killer Jack the Ripper, case closed. By Patricia Cornwall Five CDs $25 The Man in the Black Suit, four dark tales. Stephen King Four CDs $19 Prey By Michael Criton Five CDs $25 The Tristen Betrayal By Robert Ludlem Eleven cassettes $30 Advanced mega memory Kevin Troudiu Two cassettes $9 Death Dajure By Kathy Rikes Four cassettes $19 Flight of Eagles By Jack Higgins Eight cassettes $25 Drink with the devil By Jack Higgins Six cassettes $25 Rainbow six By Tom Clancy Four cassettes $19 The Taylor of panama By John La Cara Four cassettes $19 Jurassic Park By Michael Criton Two cassettes $14 Midnight Runner By Jack Higgins Six cassettes $29 The Langaleers By Stephen King Six cassettes $25 Nightmares and Dreamscapes volume one By Stephen King Eight cassettes $35 Unnatural exposure By Patricia Cornwall Four cassettes $19 Bag of Bones By Stephen king Sixteen cassettes $47 Airframe By Michael Chrichton Four cassettes $19 Void Moon By Michael Connelly Four cassettes $19 The lost world (The sequel to Jurassic Park.) By Michael Criton Four cassettes $19 The Nightshift By Stephen King Four cassettes $19 City of bones By Michael Connelly Four cassettes $19 The Hobbit By JR Tollking Four cassettes $19 Sailors to the End By Gregory A Freeman Four cassettes $19 This Septured Isle The story of Great Britain 1547-1660 Two cassettes $14 This Septured Isle The story of Great Britain 1939-1959 Two cassettes $14 Faulty Towers (English comedy show.) Four episodes
Re: creative zen stone
Yeah this is true, but the reviews I've read, as well as my own experience, says it's more like six to seven hours. The Creative Media Lite utility does tell you whether the Zen Stone has a full charge or not, so you can at least make sure you're starting off with a full battery. Kevin Lloyd wrote: > Hey Joe. > > It's advertised running time on a full charge is 10 hours. > > Regards. > > Kevin > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - Original Message - > From: "Joe Bollard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "pc -audio" > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 12:23 PM > Subject: creative zen stone > > > >> hello friends, i recently purchased the zen stone player, delighted with >> it, >> unfortunately, i got the one gigabyte version, didn't know there was a two >> gig version until a week after i had purchased this one, but really no >> problem, for a totally blind person it is so easy to operate, just one >> thing >> i need to know, how long is the running time, how many hours can i run it >> before recharging it?? the headphones that come with it are rubbish, but i >> do have a very natty and extremely good set of headphones that came with a >> radio someone gave me last year, anyway, can someone tell me how long this >> little baby runs without needing a recharge, regards from ireland, travel >> safely, joe. >> >> >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- Christopher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Weighing Up accessability
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Re: Weighing Up accessability
8 PM >> Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin >> >> >> Thankfully yes! >> >> The majority of the sighted market. >> >> definitely not the accessible market >> >> I've been using a 120 gig hard drive on an accessible jukebox for >> three >> years now. >> >> It's nice to see that Apple is finally catching up. >> >> kG. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " >> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:35 PM >> Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin >> >> >> Well yep, I get that from my phone too but I don't get a 120 gig hard >> drive and I'm afraid that I'm not going to lose any sleep whatsoever >> if Apple doesn't bother with speech on an Ipod, with luck there may >> be Rockbox for the 6th generation and here's hoping but even if their >> isn't, I can still use my Ipods quite happily and as far as I know, >> the "wheel" interface will stay the same so no, sorry, its not the >> end of the world and yep, thankfully, Apple are acting for a majority >> in the market. >> >> On 19/07/2007, at 9:19 AM, Keith Gillard wrote: >> >> Sorry dude! >> >> Not impressed. I get all this from my smart phone and Rockbox. >> >> Now, if your telling me that Apple is going to launch the promised >> speech >> capabilities of Ipods, then I will really be impressed...KG >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC audio discussion list." >> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 4:29 PM >> Subject: 6th generation IPOD's Comin >> >> >> Ok, that's what today's press here is writing about and what's so >> good about this. Some excellent features on the way including Wi-Fi >> built-in and best of all in my view, blue tooth compatibility for >> file transfer and stereo communications with headphones and speakers >> and a 120 Gig hard drive. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ** >> >> >> Dane Trethowan >> >> From Melton Victoria Australia >> >> Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> phone uk 0121 288 4976 >> >> Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 >> >> Fax +61 3 9743 7954 >> >> mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 >> >> Skype: callto:grtdane12 >> >> MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ** >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server >> authentication. >> >> >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ** >> >> >> Dane Trethowan >> >>From Melton Victoria Australia >> >> Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> phone uk 0121 288 4976 >> >> Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 >> >> Fax +61 3 9743 7954 >> >> mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 >> >> Skype: callto:grtdane12 >> >> MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ** >> >> >> >> >> >> Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server >> authentication. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ** >> >
creative zen stone
Hi all, I just got my new zen stone today in the mail. I just plugged it up to my computer. How long does it take to charge initially? And do I have to wait until it is done charging, or will it play while it is hooked up to the computer charging? I just did not know if it can get its power from the USB port to play while it is charging. All help is appreciated. Chris Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Weighing Up accessability
es! >> >> The majority of the sighted market. >> >> definitely not the accessible market >> >> I've been using a 120 gig hard drive on an accessible jukebox for >> three >> years now. >> >> It's nice to see that Apple is finally catching up. >> >> kG. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " >> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:35 PM >> Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin >> >> >> Well yep, I get that from my phone too but I don't get a 120 gig hard >> drive and I'm afraid that I'm not going to lose any sleep whatsoever >> if Apple doesn't bother with speech on an Ipod, with luck there may >> be Rockbox for the 6th generation and here's hoping but even if their >> isn't, I can still use my Ipods quite happily and as far as I know, >> the "wheel" interface will stay the same so no, sorry, its not the >> end of the world and yep, thankfully, Apple are acting for a majority >> in the market. >> >> On 19/07/2007, at 9:19 AM, Keith Gillard wrote: >> >> Sorry dude! >> >> Not impressed. I get all this from my smart phone and Rockbox. >> >> Now, if your telling me that Apple is going to launch the promised >> speech >> capabilities of Ipods, then I will really be impressed...KG >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC audio discussion list." >> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 4:29 PM >> Subject: 6th generation IPOD's Comin >> >> >> Ok, that's what today's press here is writing about and what's so >> good about this. Some excellent features on the way including Wi-Fi >> built-in and best of all in my view, blue tooth compatibility for >> file transfer and stereo communications with headphones and speakers >> and a 120 Gig hard drive. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ** >> >> >> Dane Trethowan >> >> From Melton Victoria Australia >> >> Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> phone uk 0121 288 4976 >> >> Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 >> >> Fax +61 3 9743 7954 >> >> mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 >> >> Skype: callto:grtdane12 >> >> MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ** >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server >> authentication. >> >> >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ** >> >> >> Dane Trethowan >> >>From Melton Victoria Australia >> >> Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> phone uk 0121 288 4976 >> >> Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 >> >> Fax +61 3 9743 7954 >> >> mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 >> >> Skype: callto:grtdane12 >> >> MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ** >> >> >> >> >> >> Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server >> authentication. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ** >> >> >> Dane Trethowan >> >> From Melton Victoria Australia >> >> E
Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin
se any sleep whatsoever >> if Apple doesn't bother with speech on an Ipod, with luck there may >> be Rockbox for the 6th generation and here's hoping but even if their >> isn't, I can still use my Ipods quite happily and as far as I know, >> the "wheel" interface will stay the same so no, sorry, its not the >> end of the world and yep, thankfully, Apple are acting for a majority >> in the market. >> >> On 19/07/2007, at 9:19 AM, Keith Gillard wrote: >> >> Sorry dude! >> >> Not impressed. I get all this from my smart phone and Rockbox. >> >> Now, if your telling me that Apple is going to launch the promised >> speech >> capabilities of Ipods, then I will really be impressed...KG >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC audio discussion list." >> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 4:29 PM >> Subject: 6th generation IPOD's Comin >> >> >> Ok, that's what today's press here is writing about and what's so >> good about this. Some excellent features on the way including Wi-Fi >> built-in and best of all in my view, blue tooth compatibility for >> file transfer and stereo communications with headphones and speakers >> and a 120 Gig hard drive. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ** >> >> >> Dane Trethowan >> >> From Melton Victoria Australia >> >> Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> phone uk 0121 288 4976 >> >> Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 >> >> Fax +61 3 9743 7954 >> >> mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 >> >> Skype: callto:grtdane12 >> >> MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ** >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server >> authentication. >> >> >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ** >> >> >> Dane Trethowan >> >> From Melton Victoria Australia >> >> Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> phone uk 0121 288 4976 >> >> Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 >> >> Fax +61 3 9743 7954 >> >> mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 >> >> Skype: callto:grtdane12 >> >> MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ** >> >> >> >> >> >> Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server >> authentication. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > ** > > > Dane Trethowan > >From Melton Victoria Australia > > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > phone uk 0121 288 4976 > > Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 > > Fax +61 3 9743 7954 > > mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 > > Skype: callto:grtdane12 > > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ** > > > > > > Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server > authentication. > > > > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to:
Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin
my Ipods quite happily and as far as I know, > > the "wheel" interface will stay the same so no, sorry, its not the > > end of the world and yep, thankfully, Apple are acting for a majority > > in the market. > > > > On 19/07/2007, at 9:19 AM, Keith Gillard wrote: > > > > Sorry dude! > > > > Not impressed. I get all this from my smart phone and Rockbox. > > > > Now, if your telling me that Apple is going to launch the promised > > speech > > capabilities of Ipods, then I will really be impressed...KG > > - Original Message - > > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "PC audio discussion list." > > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 4:29 PM > > Subject: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > > > > > Ok, that's what today's press here is writing about and what's so > > good about this. Some excellent features on the way including Wi-Fi > > built-in and best of all in my view, blue tooth compatibility for > > file transfer and stereo communications with headphones and speakers > > and a 120 Gig hard drive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > Dane Trethowan > > > > From Melton Victoria Australia > > > > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > phone uk 0121 288 4976 > > > > Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 > > > > Fax +61 3 9743 7954 > > > > mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 > > > > Skype: callto:grtdane12 > > > > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server > > authentication. > > > > > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > > http://www.pc-audio.org > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > > http://www.pc-audio.org > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > Dane Trethowan > > > > From Melton Victoria Australia > > > > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > phone uk 0121 288 4976 > > > > Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 > > > > Fax +61 3 9743 7954 > > > > mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 > > > > Skype: callto:grtdane12 > > > > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server > > authentication. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > > http://www.pc-audio.org > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > > http://www.pc-audio.org > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > > http://www.pc-audio.org > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > >Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >http://www.pc-audio.org > >To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > >** > > >Dane Trethowan > >From Melton Victoria Australia > >Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >phone uk 0121 288 4976 > >Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 > >Fax +61 3 9743 7954 > >mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 > >Skype: callto:grtdane12 > >MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >** > > > > > >Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server >authentication. > > > > > > >Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >http://www.pc-audio.org > >To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >http://www.pc-au
creative z3en stone
hi friends, thanks for the info, i'm sort of glad i got the one gig version now, the fm radio doesn't appeal to me, i've got them coming out of my ears, [or should that be going in to my ears] and i have a couple of very good recorders, but thanks once again for all the help, one further question, anyone got any suggestions where i can download good audio books, i'm a book junkie, i need to get my daily fix of a book, thanks again from the emerald isle, travel safely, joe. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: creative zen stone
I'm not sure but do you happen do know the model number and how much was it? Thanks Leslie - Original Message - From: "Joe Bollard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pc -audio" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:23 AM Subject: creative zen stone > hello friends, i recently purchased the zen stone player, delighted with > it, > unfortunately, i got the one gigabyte version, didn't know there was a two > gig version until a week after i had purchased this one, but really no > problem, for a totally blind person it is so easy to operate, just one > thing > i need to know, how long is the running time, how many hours can i run it > before recharging it?? the headphones that come with it are rubbish, but i > do have a very natty and extremely good set of headphones that came with a > radio someone gave me last year, anyway, can someone tell me how long this > little baby runs without needing a recharge, regards from ireland, travel > safely, joe. > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Weighing Up accessability
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RE: creative zen stone
The 2 GB model is known as the Zen Stone Plus and is supposed to be rather less accessible than the 1 GB Zen Stone. The Zen Stone Plus has a voice recorder and FM radio, I believe, while the 1 GB model is just a music player. Caroline. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of leslie ferrell Sent: 19 July 2007 06:25 To: pcaudio Subject: creative zen stone I was reading about the creative Zen keystone player. Sounds pretty neat and not to expensive. Does anyone have the serial for the 1 gigabyte that's been talked about here? Thanks Leslie check out this new and exciting business opportunity and it's totally free!!! http://www.mypowermall.com/Biz/Home/5847 Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 2407 (20070719) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Weighing Up accessability
t but I gues they don't fill > that is > worth the trouble. > - Original Message - > From: "Keith Gillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:48 PM > Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > > Thankfully yes! > > The majority of the sighted market. > > definitely not the accessible market > > I've been using a 120 gig hard drive on an accessible jukebox for > three > years now. > > It's nice to see that Apple is finally catching up. > > kG. > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:35 PM > Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > > Well yep, I get that from my phone too but I don't get a 120 gig hard > drive and I'm afraid that I'm not going to lose any sleep whatsoever > if Apple doesn't bother with speech on an Ipod, with luck there may > be Rockbox for the 6th generation and here's hoping but even if their > isn't, I can still use my Ipods quite happily and as far as I know, > the "wheel" interface will stay the same so no, sorry, its not the > end of the world and yep, thankfully, Apple are acting for a majority > in the market. > > On 19/07/2007, at 9:19 AM, Keith Gillard wrote: > > Sorry dude! > > Not impressed. I get all this from my smart phone and Rockbox. > > Now, if your telling me that Apple is going to launch the promised > speech > capabilities of Ipods, then I will really be impressed...KG > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list." > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 4:29 PM > Subject: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > > Ok, that's what today's press here is writing about and what's so > good about this. Some excellent features on the way including Wi-Fi > built-in and best of all in my view, blue tooth compatibility for > file transfer and stereo communications with headphones and speakers > and a 120 Gig hard drive. > > > > > > > ** > > > Dane Trethowan > > From Melton Victoria Australia > > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > phone uk 0121 288 4976 > > Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 > > Fax +61 3 9743 7954 > > mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 > > Skype: callto:grtdane12 > > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ** > > > > > > > Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server > authentication. > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > ** > > > Dane Trethowan > >From Melton Victoria Australia > > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > phone uk 0121 288 4976 > > Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 > > Fax +61 3 9743 7954 > > mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 > > Skype: callto:grtdane12 > > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ** > > > > > > Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server > authentication. > > > > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > ** > > > Dane Trethowan > > From Melton Victoria Australia > > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > phone uk 0121 288 4976 > > Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 > > Fax +61 3 9743 7954 > > mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 > > Skype: callto:grtdane12 > > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ** > > > > > > Join the fight against spam! Have
Re: Weighing Up accessability
y, July 18, 2007 8:48 PM > Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > > Thankfully yes! > > The majority of the sighted market. > > definitely not the accessible market > > I've been using a 120 gig hard drive on an accessible jukebox for > three > years now. > > It's nice to see that Apple is finally catching up. > > kG. > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:35 PM > Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > > Well yep, I get that from my phone too but I don't get a 120 gig hard > drive and I'm afraid that I'm not going to lose any sleep whatsoever > if Apple doesn't bother with speech on an Ipod, with luck there may > be Rockbox for the 6th generation and here's hoping but even if their > isn't, I can still use my Ipods quite happily and as far as I know, > the "wheel" interface will stay the same so no, sorry, its not the > end of the world and yep, thankfully, Apple are acting for a majority > in the market. > > On 19/07/2007, at 9:19 AM, Keith Gillard wrote: > > Sorry dude! > > Not impressed. I get all this from my smart phone and Rockbox. > > Now, if your telling me that Apple is going to launch the promised > speech > capabilities of Ipods, then I will really be impressed...KG > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list." > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 4:29 PM > Subject: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > > Ok, that's what today's press here is writing about and what's so > good about this. Some excellent features on the way including Wi-Fi > built-in and best of all in my view, blue tooth compatibility for > file transfer and stereo communications with headphones and speakers > and a 120 Gig hard drive. > > > > > > > ** > > > Dane Trethowan > > From Melton Victoria Australia > > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > phone uk 0121 288 4976 > > Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 > > Fax +61 3 9743 7954 > > mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 > > Skype: callto:grtdane12 > > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ** > > > > > > > Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server > authentication. > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > ** > > > Dane Trethowan > >From Melton Victoria Australia > > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > phone uk 0121 288 4976 > > Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 > > Fax +61 3 9743 7954 > > mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 > > Skype: callto:grtdane12 > > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ** > > > > > > Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server > authentication. > > > > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > ** > > > Dane Trethowan > > From Melton Victoria Australia > > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > phone uk 0121 288 4976 > > Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 > > Fax +61 3 9743 7954 > > mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 > > Skype: callto:grtdane12 > > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ** > > > > > > Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server > authentication. > > > > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this l
Re: COVERTING AND DEALING WITH LOSSLESS FORMATS
Yep, get back to me privately and I'll see what I can do for you. On 20/07/2007, at 4:41 AM, G. McFarlane wrote: Thanks again Dane, I'm afraid I've no experience with setting up scripts in this way. If it's possible to get something which would allow conversion from Itunes to one of the other lossless formats I'd be greatly interested. Do you yourself have knowledge as to how I could incorporate this kind of codec? Once again my appreciation for you taking the time to respond. Gordon - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 6:33 PM Subject: Re: COVERTING AND DEALING WITH LOSSLESS FORMATS > Ok well perhaps I didn't explain myself terribly accurately. I > thought what you wanted to do was to convert from Apple Lossless to > FLAC, to my knowledge, Itunes won't perform that conversion so you'd > have to make or use an additional applescript if you were using > Itunes with apple or a batch file with Windows to permit this. > As far as losing quality? Well, they don't call em "lossless formats" > for nothin . > > On 20/07/2007, at 3:26 AM, G. McFarlane wrote: > > Thanks Kevin and Dane > It's good to know that I won't lose anything between wav and another > lossless format - it's tempting to believe that there must be some > loss > somewhere. > I'm not sure what you're suggesting Dane - the file is in wav format > just > now with the Itunes library holding all the tags in full. If I were to > convert to Apple lossless or just leave it in wav is there a way of > adding a > conversion codec to Itunes to make it a different format like flec or > Windows Media format? > Regards. > Gordon > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:54 PM > Subject: COVERTING AND DEALING WITH LOSSLESS FORMATS > > >> Ok, well if I may throw mmy 2 cents in here. Itunes should allow the >> conversion of Apple Lossless (or AAC Lossless if you prefer) to Wav >> but the next step will require another application to convert that >> wave audio to FLAC, nothing that an Apple Script cannot automate of >> course. >> >> On 19/07/2007, at 5:32 AM, Kevin Lloyd wrote: >> >> Hi Gordon. >> >> You won't lose any quality converting from WAV to apple lossless. >> Assuming >> that you then have all ID3 tags intact, if you can find a program to >> convert >> from apple lossless to FLAC or lossless WMA, then again there won't >> be any >> loss in quality. >> >> Regards. >> >> Kevin >> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> - Original Message - >> From: "G. McFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " >> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 12:08 PM >> Subject: Re: Putting LP's on the Computer >> >> >>> Hi >>> I have just a query based on your reply. >>> I ripped all my large record collection to wav before I realised >>> that the >>> ID >>> tags would not be preserved. I did so in ITunes and so because the >>> Tags >>> are >>> in the library all the details remain. If I export to any of the >>> Itunes >>> formats supported than the tags go with it however if I try to use >>> an;y >>> other program only the name of the song and artist are copied from >>> the wav >>> file. >>> My question is: I can use the Apple lossless codec in itunes to >>> keep the >>> wav >>> lossless, or can I? Would this conversion result in a loss of >>> quality, >>> however small, converting from wav to Apple? Alternatively is it >>> possible >>> to >>> add formats to Itunes so that the wav files might be exported from >>> Itunes >>> with their tags, ideally like a flec or lossless windows media >>> format? >>> Thanks for any response. >>> Gordon McFarlane >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Kevin Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 7:55 PM >>> Subject: Re: Putting LP's on the Computer >>> >>> The only thing I'd add to this note is that you have more choice these days than ripping to WAV format to get true CD quality results. Lossless WMA and FLAC are two formats that come to mind. Both of these formats will give you identical results to the original CD and WAV file but will yield slightly smaller files. Both will also provide ID3 tag support which WAV files will not. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Jerry Richer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 7:21 PM Subject: Re: Putting LP's on the Computer > Kris: > > Of course you won't be interested in MP3 or any other > compression > schemes. You will want to record your collection as wave files. > Any > compression scheme results in lost quality which is noticeable by > people > who >
Re: creative zen stone
Hey Joe. It's advertised running time on a full charge is 10 hours. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Joe Bollard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pc -audio" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 12:23 PM Subject: creative zen stone > hello friends, i recently purchased the zen stone player, delighted with > it, > unfortunately, i got the one gigabyte version, didn't know there was a two > gig version until a week after i had purchased this one, but really no > problem, for a totally blind person it is so easy to operate, just one > thing > i need to know, how long is the running time, how many hours can i run it > before recharging it?? the headphones that come with it are rubbish, but i > do have a very natty and extremely good set of headphones that came with a > radio someone gave me last year, anyway, can someone tell me how long this > little baby runs without needing a recharge, regards from ireland, travel > safely, joe. > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: COVERTING AND DEALING WITH LOSSLESS FORMATS
Thanks again Dane, I'm afraid I've no experience with setting up scripts in this way. If it's possible to get something which would allow conversion from Itunes to one of the other lossless formats I'd be greatly interested. Do you yourself have knowledge as to how I could incorporate this kind of codec? Once again my appreciation for you taking the time to respond. Gordon - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 6:33 PM Subject: Re: COVERTING AND DEALING WITH LOSSLESS FORMATS > Ok well perhaps I didn't explain myself terribly accurately. I > thought what you wanted to do was to convert from Apple Lossless to > FLAC, to my knowledge, Itunes won't perform that conversion so you'd > have to make or use an additional applescript if you were using > Itunes with apple or a batch file with Windows to permit this. > As far as losing quality? Well, they don't call em "lossless formats" > for nothin . > > On 20/07/2007, at 3:26 AM, G. McFarlane wrote: > > Thanks Kevin and Dane > It's good to know that I won't lose anything between wav and another > lossless format - it's tempting to believe that there must be some loss > somewhere. > I'm not sure what you're suggesting Dane - the file is in wav format > just > now with the Itunes library holding all the tags in full. If I were to > convert to Apple lossless or just leave it in wav is there a way of > adding a > conversion codec to Itunes to make it a different format like flec or > Windows Media format? > Regards. > Gordon > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:54 PM > Subject: COVERTING AND DEALING WITH LOSSLESS FORMATS > > >> Ok, well if I may throw mmy 2 cents in here. Itunes should allow the >> conversion of Apple Lossless (or AAC Lossless if you prefer) to Wav >> but the next step will require another application to convert that >> wave audio to FLAC, nothing that an Apple Script cannot automate of >> course. >> >> On 19/07/2007, at 5:32 AM, Kevin Lloyd wrote: >> >> Hi Gordon. >> >> You won't lose any quality converting from WAV to apple lossless. >> Assuming >> that you then have all ID3 tags intact, if you can find a program to >> convert >> from apple lossless to FLAC or lossless WMA, then again there won't >> be any >> loss in quality. >> >> Regards. >> >> Kevin >> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> - Original Message - >> From: "G. McFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " >> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 12:08 PM >> Subject: Re: Putting LP's on the Computer >> >> >>> Hi >>> I have just a query based on your reply. >>> I ripped all my large record collection to wav before I realised >>> that the >>> ID >>> tags would not be preserved. I did so in ITunes and so because the >>> Tags >>> are >>> in the library all the details remain. If I export to any of the >>> Itunes >>> formats supported than the tags go with it however if I try to use >>> an;y >>> other program only the name of the song and artist are copied from >>> the wav >>> file. >>> My question is: I can use the Apple lossless codec in itunes to >>> keep the >>> wav >>> lossless, or can I? Would this conversion result in a loss of >>> quality, >>> however small, converting from wav to Apple? Alternatively is it >>> possible >>> to >>> add formats to Itunes so that the wav files might be exported from >>> Itunes >>> with their tags, ideally like a flec or lossless windows media >>> format? >>> Thanks for any response. >>> Gordon McFarlane >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Kevin Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 7:55 PM >>> Subject: Re: Putting LP's on the Computer >>> >>> The only thing I'd add to this note is that you have more choice these days than ripping to WAV format to get true CD quality results. Lossless WMA and FLAC are two formats that come to mind. Both of these formats will give you identical results to the original CD and WAV file but will yield slightly smaller files. Both will also provide ID3 tag support which WAV files will not. Regards. Kevin E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Jerry Richer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 7:21 PM Subject: Re: Putting LP's on the Computer > Kris: > > Of course you won't be interested in MP3 or any other > compression > schemes. You will want to record your collection as wave files. > Any > compression scheme results in lost quality which is noticeable by > people > who > really appreciate listening to music. > You can record at most any quality you like. CD quality is > go
Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin
You're also not going to find two people to whom access8ibility means exactly the same thing, either. Bruce On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 04:42:12 +1000, "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > The problem is with acessability that you're never really going to > come up with a perfect product all of the time unless something is > built for specific needs. > Looking at the I Phone again, I told you about how one way this > product could be made accessible, ok that means you have to carry > another device around but that's easier and cheaper for everyone than > changing the total design of the I Phone or bringing out a totally > new model. > > On 20/07/2007, at 4:30 AM, Keith Gillard wrote: > > Well good on you dude! > > I think we are looking at access from two differing view points. > I'll be > the first to admit that I generally forget to consider the deaf/blind or > partially sighted community when reviewing products or posting > comments on > accessibility. > > Total blindness is my world I guess grin...Keith > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 12:20 PM > Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > > Hmmm, not me, I'm very arrogant and outlandish so I doubt I'll change > much. > > On 20/07/2007, at 4:09 AM, Keith Gillard wrote: > > I see that your also busy generating comments for which you have > little or > no research behind them. > > I suggest you might want to consider reviewing some of your earlier > posts > then maybe you might reframe from making such outlandish and arrogant > statements...Keith > > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 11:05 AM > Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > > I must admit, I get a good laugh out of some people who just hunt > around for excuses without actually reading fact, I guess that's the > "blind" for you, easier to knock something than read or research > something or try something. > The I phone I admit is not perfect but neither are a million other > products but yet most are usable with a little forethought, at the > present stage the Ip phone cannot be used by a totally blind person > because of the nature of its design and in a previous message I > posted a way that this problem could be rectified. I also said that > if you went to the pages pertaining to the I Phone, you could bring > up the Accessability pages and you would discover that many > accessability features have been built-in to help people including > people with low vision, deafness etc. I'll be perfectly frank with > all of you, as I'm deaf-blind, I may consider purchasing this phone > in the future for the main benefit of accessing its "TTY" > capabilities. Obviously I'm not going to waste my money until I find > out how these work but as I use a "TTY" allot of my time then this > feature (assuming I can get it to work somehow) will be highly useful > for my communications needs etc. > > On 19/07/2007, at 11:38 PM, Keith Gillard wrote: > > Yup. If your visually impaired you might be able to squint and see the > phone. Just another way to burn out what vision you may have left. > > It's really too bad though, as a simple MP3 talk clip style TTS of > each menu > and function would make this phone a real option for blind folk...Keith > > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 3:50 AM > Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > > Indeed and you'll find that Apple have done everything as far as the > design allows to build accessability into this phone, go and look up > I Phone accessability and you'll find at least 2 pages listing > accessability features on this device. > > On 19/07/2007, at 4:41 PM, Gary Wood wrote: > > Well if Apple says that they want to put accessible products in the > blind > marketplace, we should call them on this issue. > - Original Message - > From: "Don Ball" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 7:56 PM > Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > > > maybe it has a touch screen like the I Phone. Still don't know why > > blindness > > organizations aren't calling them on that but I gues they don't > > fill that > > is > > worth the trouble. > > - Original Message - > > From: "Keith Gillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:48 PM > > Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > > > > > Thankfully yes! > > > > The majority of the sighted market. > > > > definitely not the accessible market > > > > I've been using a 120 gig hard drive on an accessible jukebox for > > three > > years now. > > > > It's nice to see that Apple is finally catching up. > > > > kG. > > - Original
Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin
The problem is with acessability that you're never really going to come up with a perfect product all of the time unless something is built for specific needs. Looking at the I Phone again, I told you about how one way this product could be made accessible, ok that means you have to carry another device around but that's easier and cheaper for everyone than changing the total design of the I Phone or bringing out a totally new model. On 20/07/2007, at 4:30 AM, Keith Gillard wrote: Well good on you dude! I think we are looking at access from two differing view points. I'll be the first to admit that I generally forget to consider the deaf/blind or partially sighted community when reviewing products or posting comments on accessibility. Total blindness is my world I guess grin...Keith - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 12:20 PM Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin Hmmm, not me, I'm very arrogant and outlandish so I doubt I'll change much. On 20/07/2007, at 4:09 AM, Keith Gillard wrote: I see that your also busy generating comments for which you have little or no research behind them. I suggest you might want to consider reviewing some of your earlier posts then maybe you might reframe from making such outlandish and arrogant statements...Keith - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 11:05 AM Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin I must admit, I get a good laugh out of some people who just hunt around for excuses without actually reading fact, I guess that's the "blind" for you, easier to knock something than read or research something or try something. The I phone I admit is not perfect but neither are a million other products but yet most are usable with a little forethought, at the present stage the Ip phone cannot be used by a totally blind person because of the nature of its design and in a previous message I posted a way that this problem could be rectified. I also said that if you went to the pages pertaining to the I Phone, you could bring up the Accessability pages and you would discover that many accessability features have been built-in to help people including people with low vision, deafness etc. I'll be perfectly frank with all of you, as I'm deaf-blind, I may consider purchasing this phone in the future for the main benefit of accessing its "TTY" capabilities. Obviously I'm not going to waste my money until I find out how these work but as I use a "TTY" allot of my time then this feature (assuming I can get it to work somehow) will be highly useful for my communications needs etc. On 19/07/2007, at 11:38 PM, Keith Gillard wrote: Yup. If your visually impaired you might be able to squint and see the phone. Just another way to burn out what vision you may have left. It's really too bad though, as a simple MP3 talk clip style TTS of each menu and function would make this phone a real option for blind folk...Keith - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 3:50 AM Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin Indeed and you'll find that Apple have done everything as far as the design allows to build accessability into this phone, go and look up I Phone accessability and you'll find at least 2 pages listing accessability features on this device. On 19/07/2007, at 4:41 PM, Gary Wood wrote: Well if Apple says that they want to put accessible products in the blind marketplace, we should call them on this issue. - Original Message - From: "Don Ball" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 7:56 PM Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > maybe it has a touch screen like the I Phone. Still don't know why > blindness > organizations aren't calling them on that but I gues they don't > fill that > is > worth the trouble. > - Original Message - > From: "Keith Gillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:48 PM > Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > > Thankfully yes! > > The majority of the sighted market. > > definitely not the accessible market > > I've been using a 120 gig hard drive on an accessible jukebox for > three > years now. > > It's nice to see that Apple is finally catching up. > > kG. > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:35 PM > Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > > Well yep, I get that from my phone too but I don't get a 120 gig hard > drive and I'm afraid that I'm not going to lose any sleep whatsoever > if Apple doesn't bother with speech on an Ipod, with luck there may > be Rockbox for the 6th generation and here's hoping b
Re: Weighing Up accessability
sible jukebox for > three > years now. > > It's nice to see that Apple is finally catching up. > > kG. > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:35 PM > Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > > Well yep, I get that from my phone too but I don't get a 120 gig hard > drive and I'm afraid that I'm not going to lose any sleep whatsoever > if Apple doesn't bother with speech on an Ipod, with luck there may > be Rockbox for the 6th generation and here's hoping but even if their > isn't, I can still use my Ipods quite happily and as far as I know, > the "wheel" interface will stay the same so no, sorry, its not the > end of the world and yep, thankfully, Apple are acting for a majority > in the market. > > On 19/07/2007, at 9:19 AM, Keith Gillard wrote: > > Sorry dude! > > Not impressed. I get all this from my smart phone and Rockbox. > > Now, if your telling me that Apple is going to launch the promised > speech > capabilities of Ipods, then I will really be impressed...KG > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list." > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 4:29 PM > Subject: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > > Ok, that's what today's press here is writing about and what's so > good about this. Some excellent features on the way including Wi-Fi > built-in and best of all in my view, blue tooth compatibility for > file transfer and stereo communications with headphones and speakers > and a 120 Gig hard drive. > > > > > > > ** > > > Dane Trethowan > > From Melton Victoria Australia > > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > phone uk 0121 288 4976 > > Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 > > Fax +61 3 9743 7954 > > mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 > > Skype: callto:grtdane12 > > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ** > > > > > > > Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server > authentication. > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > ** > > > Dane Trethowan > >From Melton Victoria Australia > > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > phone uk 0121 288 4976 > > Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 > > Fax +61 3 9743 7954 > > mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 > > Skype: callto:grtdane12 > > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ** > > > > > > Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server > authentication. > > > > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > ** > > > Dane Trethowan > > From Melton Victoria Australia > > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > phone uk 0121 288 4976 > > Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 > > Fax +61 3 9743 7954 > > mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 > > Skype: callto:grtdane12 > > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ** > > > > > > Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server > authentication. > > > > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > &g
creative zen stone
hello friends, i recently purchased the zen stone player, delighted with it, unfortunately, i got the one gigabyte version, didn't know there was a two gig version until a week after i had purchased this one, but really no problem, for a totally blind person it is so easy to operate, just one thing i need to know, how long is the running time, how many hours can i run it before recharging it?? the headphones that come with it are rubbish, but i do have a very natty and extremely good set of headphones that came with a radio someone gave me last year, anyway, can someone tell me how long this little baby runs without needing a recharge, regards from ireland, travel safely, joe. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin
Well good on you dude! I think we are looking at access from two differing view points. I'll be the first to admit that I generally forget to consider the deaf/blind or partially sighted community when reviewing products or posting comments on accessibility. Total blindness is my world I guess grin...Keith - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 12:20 PM Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin Hmmm, not me, I'm very arrogant and outlandish so I doubt I'll change much. On 20/07/2007, at 4:09 AM, Keith Gillard wrote: I see that your also busy generating comments for which you have little or no research behind them. I suggest you might want to consider reviewing some of your earlier posts then maybe you might reframe from making such outlandish and arrogant statements...Keith - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 11:05 AM Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin I must admit, I get a good laugh out of some people who just hunt around for excuses without actually reading fact, I guess that's the "blind" for you, easier to knock something than read or research something or try something. The I phone I admit is not perfect but neither are a million other products but yet most are usable with a little forethought, at the present stage the Ip phone cannot be used by a totally blind person because of the nature of its design and in a previous message I posted a way that this problem could be rectified. I also said that if you went to the pages pertaining to the I Phone, you could bring up the Accessability pages and you would discover that many accessability features have been built-in to help people including people with low vision, deafness etc. I'll be perfectly frank with all of you, as I'm deaf-blind, I may consider purchasing this phone in the future for the main benefit of accessing its "TTY" capabilities. Obviously I'm not going to waste my money until I find out how these work but as I use a "TTY" allot of my time then this feature (assuming I can get it to work somehow) will be highly useful for my communications needs etc. On 19/07/2007, at 11:38 PM, Keith Gillard wrote: Yup. If your visually impaired you might be able to squint and see the phone. Just another way to burn out what vision you may have left. It's really too bad though, as a simple MP3 talk clip style TTS of each menu and function would make this phone a real option for blind folk...Keith - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 3:50 AM Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin Indeed and you'll find that Apple have done everything as far as the design allows to build accessability into this phone, go and look up I Phone accessability and you'll find at least 2 pages listing accessability features on this device. On 19/07/2007, at 4:41 PM, Gary Wood wrote: Well if Apple says that they want to put accessible products in the blind marketplace, we should call them on this issue. - Original Message - From: "Don Ball" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 7:56 PM Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > maybe it has a touch screen like the I Phone. Still don't know why > blindness > organizations aren't calling them on that but I gues they don't > fill that > is > worth the trouble. > - Original Message - > From: "Keith Gillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:48 PM > Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > > Thankfully yes! > > The majority of the sighted market. > > definitely not the accessible market > > I've been using a 120 gig hard drive on an accessible jukebox for > three > years now. > > It's nice to see that Apple is finally catching up. > > kG. > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:35 PM > Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > > Well yep, I get that from my phone too but I don't get a 120 gig hard > drive and I'm afraid that I'm not going to lose any sleep whatsoever > if Apple doesn't bother with speech on an Ipod, with luck there may > be Rockbox for the 6th generation and here's hoping but even if their > isn't, I can still use my Ipods quite happily and as far as I know, > the "wheel" interface will stay the same so no, sorry, its not the > end of the world and yep, thankfully, Apple are acting for a majority > in the market. > > On 19/07/2007, at 9:19 AM, Keith Gillard wrote: > > Sorry dude! > > Not impressed. I get all this from my smart phone and Rockbox. > > Now, if your telling me that Apple is going to launch the promised > speech > capabilities of Ipods, then I will re
Re: W4a files
Right, I miss-read this message the first time around, I thought you were referring to mp4 files, the files you're downloading I can't comment on really but I suspect they're a varriant of what I've already written about in my previous message. On 20/07/2007, at 4:07 AM, Frank Brown wrote: Hello, I've downloaded m4a and m4b files from the ABC and CNN web sites. These are the files you get when you try to download some of their podcasts. My guess is that they are Itunes files. As was mentioned earlier, they can also be played in Winamp. Frank Brown Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone uk 0121 288 4976 Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 Fax +61 3 9743 7954 mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 Skype: callto:grtdane12 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server authentication. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Weighing Up accessability
t; if Apple doesn't bother with speech on an Ipod, with luck there may > be Rockbox for the 6th generation and here's hoping but even if their > isn't, I can still use my Ipods quite happily and as far as I know, > the "wheel" interface will stay the same so no, sorry, its not the > end of the world and yep, thankfully, Apple are acting for a majority > in the market. > > On 19/07/2007, at 9:19 AM, Keith Gillard wrote: > > Sorry dude! > > Not impressed. I get all this from my smart phone and Rockbox. > > Now, if your telling me that Apple is going to launch the promised > speech > capabilities of Ipods, then I will really be impressed...KG > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list." > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 4:29 PM > Subject: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > > Ok, that's what today's press here is writing about and what's so > good about this. Some excellent features on the way including Wi-Fi > built-in and best of all in my view, blue tooth compatibility for > file transfer and stereo communications with headphones and speakers > and a 120 Gig hard drive. > > > > > > > ** > > > Dane Trethowan > > From Melton Victoria Australia > > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > phone uk 0121 288 4976 > > Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 > > Fax +61 3 9743 7954 > > mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 > > Skype: callto:grtdane12 > > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ** > > > > > > > Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server > authentication. > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > ** > > > Dane Trethowan > >From Melton Victoria Australia > > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > phone uk 0121 288 4976 > > Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 > > Fax +61 3 9743 7954 > > mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 > > Skype: callto:grtdane12 > > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ** > > > > > > Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server > authentication. > > > > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > ** > > > Dane Trethowan > > From Melton Victoria Australia > > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > phone uk 0121 288 4976 > > Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 > > Fax +61 3 9743 7954 > > mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 > > Skype: callto:grtdane12 > > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ** > > > > > > Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server > authentication. > > > > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > ** > > > Dane Trethowan > > From Melton Victoria Australia > > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > phone uk 0121 288 4976 > > Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 > > Fax +61 3 9743 7954 > > mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 > > Skype: callto:grtdane12 > > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ** > > > > > > Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server > authentication. > > > > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > __ NOD32 2407 (20070719) Information __ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone uk 0121 288 4976 Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 Fax +61 3 9743 7954 mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 Skype: callto:grtdane12 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server authentication. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin
Hmmm, not me, I'm very arrogant and outlandish so I doubt I'll change much. On 20/07/2007, at 4:09 AM, Keith Gillard wrote: I see that your also busy generating comments for which you have little or no research behind them. I suggest you might want to consider reviewing some of your earlier posts then maybe you might reframe from making such outlandish and arrogant statements...Keith - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 11:05 AM Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin I must admit, I get a good laugh out of some people who just hunt around for excuses without actually reading fact, I guess that's the "blind" for you, easier to knock something than read or research something or try something. The I phone I admit is not perfect but neither are a million other products but yet most are usable with a little forethought, at the present stage the Ip phone cannot be used by a totally blind person because of the nature of its design and in a previous message I posted a way that this problem could be rectified. I also said that if you went to the pages pertaining to the I Phone, you could bring up the Accessability pages and you would discover that many accessability features have been built-in to help people including people with low vision, deafness etc. I'll be perfectly frank with all of you, as I'm deaf-blind, I may consider purchasing this phone in the future for the main benefit of accessing its "TTY" capabilities. Obviously I'm not going to waste my money until I find out how these work but as I use a "TTY" allot of my time then this feature (assuming I can get it to work somehow) will be highly useful for my communications needs etc. On 19/07/2007, at 11:38 PM, Keith Gillard wrote: Yup. If your visually impaired you might be able to squint and see the phone. Just another way to burn out what vision you may have left. It's really too bad though, as a simple MP3 talk clip style TTS of each menu and function would make this phone a real option for blind folk...Keith - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 3:50 AM Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin Indeed and you'll find that Apple have done everything as far as the design allows to build accessability into this phone, go and look up I Phone accessability and you'll find at least 2 pages listing accessability features on this device. On 19/07/2007, at 4:41 PM, Gary Wood wrote: Well if Apple says that they want to put accessible products in the blind marketplace, we should call them on this issue. - Original Message - From: "Don Ball" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 7:56 PM Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > maybe it has a touch screen like the I Phone. Still don't know why > blindness > organizations aren't calling them on that but I gues they don't > fill that > is > worth the trouble. > - Original Message - > From: "Keith Gillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:48 PM > Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > > Thankfully yes! > > The majority of the sighted market. > > definitely not the accessible market > > I've been using a 120 gig hard drive on an accessible jukebox for > three > years now. > > It's nice to see that Apple is finally catching up. > > kG. > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:35 PM > Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > > Well yep, I get that from my phone too but I don't get a 120 gig hard > drive and I'm afraid that I'm not going to lose any sleep whatsoever > if Apple doesn't bother with speech on an Ipod, with luck there may > be Rockbox for the 6th generation and here's hoping but even if their > isn't, I can still use my Ipods quite happily and as far as I know, > the "wheel" interface will stay the same so no, sorry, its not the > end of the world and yep, thankfully, Apple are acting for a majority > in the market. > > On 19/07/2007, at 9:19 AM, Keith Gillard wrote: > > Sorry dude! > > Not impressed. I get all this from my smart phone and Rockbox. > > Now, if your telling me that Apple is going to launch the promised > speech > capabilities of Ipods, then I will really be impressed...KG > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list." > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 4:29 PM > Subject: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > > Ok, that's what today's press here is writing about and what's so > good about this. Some excellent features on the way including Wi-Fi > built-in and best of all in my view, blue tooth compatibility for > file transfer and stereo communications with headphones and speakers > and
Re: W4a files
They're video files, Itunes will handle them yes but Winamp should be able to handle them too, my Mobile phones play them etc. MP4 Video. On 20/07/2007, at 4:07 AM, Frank Brown wrote: Hello, I've downloaded m4a and m4b files from the ABC and CNN web sites. These are the files you get when you try to download some of their podcasts. My guess is that they are Itunes files. As was mentioned earlier, they can also be played in Winamp. Frank Brown Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone uk 0121 288 4976 Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 Fax +61 3 9743 7954 mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 Skype: callto:grtdane12 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server authentication. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin
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Re: W4a files
Hello, I've downloaded m4a and m4b files from the ABC and CNN web sites. These are the files you get when you try to download some of their podcasts. My guess is that they are Itunes files. As was mentioned earlier, they can also be played in Winamp. Frank Brown Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin
I see that your also busy generating comments for which you have little or no research behind them. I suggest you might want to consider reviewing some of your earlier posts then maybe you might reframe from making such outlandish and arrogant statements...Keith - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 11:05 AM Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin I must admit, I get a good laugh out of some people who just hunt around for excuses without actually reading fact, I guess that's the "blind" for you, easier to knock something than read or research something or try something. The I phone I admit is not perfect but neither are a million other products but yet most are usable with a little forethought, at the present stage the Ip phone cannot be used by a totally blind person because of the nature of its design and in a previous message I posted a way that this problem could be rectified. I also said that if you went to the pages pertaining to the I Phone, you could bring up the Accessability pages and you would discover that many accessability features have been built-in to help people including people with low vision, deafness etc. I'll be perfectly frank with all of you, as I'm deaf-blind, I may consider purchasing this phone in the future for the main benefit of accessing its "TTY" capabilities. Obviously I'm not going to waste my money until I find out how these work but as I use a "TTY" allot of my time then this feature (assuming I can get it to work somehow) will be highly useful for my communications needs etc. On 19/07/2007, at 11:38 PM, Keith Gillard wrote: Yup. If your visually impaired you might be able to squint and see the phone. Just another way to burn out what vision you may have left. It's really too bad though, as a simple MP3 talk clip style TTS of each menu and function would make this phone a real option for blind folk...Keith - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 3:50 AM Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin Indeed and you'll find that Apple have done everything as far as the design allows to build accessability into this phone, go and look up I Phone accessability and you'll find at least 2 pages listing accessability features on this device. On 19/07/2007, at 4:41 PM, Gary Wood wrote: Well if Apple says that they want to put accessible products in the blind marketplace, we should call them on this issue. - Original Message - From: "Don Ball" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 7:56 PM Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > maybe it has a touch screen like the I Phone. Still don't know why > blindness > organizations aren't calling them on that but I gues they don't > fill that > is > worth the trouble. > - Original Message - > From: "Keith Gillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:48 PM > Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > > Thankfully yes! > > The majority of the sighted market. > > definitely not the accessible market > > I've been using a 120 gig hard drive on an accessible jukebox for > three > years now. > > It's nice to see that Apple is finally catching up. > > kG. > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:35 PM > Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > > Well yep, I get that from my phone too but I don't get a 120 gig hard > drive and I'm afraid that I'm not going to lose any sleep whatsoever > if Apple doesn't bother with speech on an Ipod, with luck there may > be Rockbox for the 6th generation and here's hoping but even if their > isn't, I can still use my Ipods quite happily and as far as I know, > the "wheel" interface will stay the same so no, sorry, its not the > end of the world and yep, thankfully, Apple are acting for a majority > in the market. > > On 19/07/2007, at 9:19 AM, Keith Gillard wrote: > > Sorry dude! > > Not impressed. I get all this from my smart phone and Rockbox. > > Now, if your telling me that Apple is going to launch the promised > speech > capabilities of Ipods, then I will really be impressed...KG > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list." > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 4:29 PM > Subject: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > > Ok, that's what today's press here is writing about and what's so > good about this. Some excellent features on the way including Wi-Fi > built-in and best of all in my view, blue tooth compatibility for > file transfer and stereo communications with headphones and speakers > and a 120 Gig hard drive. > > > > > > > ** > > > Dane Trethowan > > From Melton Victoria Australia > >
Re: COVERTING AND DEALING WITH LOSSLESS FORMATS
Ok well perhaps I didn't explain myself terribly accurately. I thought what you wanted to do was to convert from Apple Lossless to FLAC, to my knowledge, Itunes won't perform that conversion so you'd have to make or use an additional applescript if you were using Itunes with apple or a batch file with Windows to permit this. As far as losing quality? Well, they don't call em "lossless formats" for nothin . On 20/07/2007, at 3:26 AM, G. McFarlane wrote: Thanks Kevin and Dane It's good to know that I won't lose anything between wav and another lossless format - it's tempting to believe that there must be some loss somewhere. I'm not sure what you're suggesting Dane - the file is in wav format just now with the Itunes library holding all the tags in full. If I were to convert to Apple lossless or just leave it in wav is there a way of adding a conversion codec to Itunes to make it a different format like flec or Windows Media format? Regards. Gordon - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:54 PM Subject: COVERTING AND DEALING WITH LOSSLESS FORMATS > Ok, well if I may throw mmy 2 cents in here. Itunes should allow the > conversion of Apple Lossless (or AAC Lossless if you prefer) to Wav > but the next step will require another application to convert that > wave audio to FLAC, nothing that an Apple Script cannot automate of > course. > > On 19/07/2007, at 5:32 AM, Kevin Lloyd wrote: > > Hi Gordon. > > You won't lose any quality converting from WAV to apple lossless. > Assuming > that you then have all ID3 tags intact, if you can find a program to > convert > from apple lossless to FLAC or lossless WMA, then again there won't > be any > loss in quality. > > Regards. > > Kevin > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - Original Message - > From: "G. McFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 12:08 PM > Subject: Re: Putting LP's on the Computer > > >> Hi >> I have just a query based on your reply. >> I ripped all my large record collection to wav before I realised >> that the >> ID >> tags would not be preserved. I did so in ITunes and so because the >> Tags >> are >> in the library all the details remain. If I export to any of the >> Itunes >> formats supported than the tags go with it however if I try to use >> an;y >> other program only the name of the song and artist are copied from >> the wav >> file. >> My question is: I can use the Apple lossless codec in itunes to >> keep the >> wav >> lossless, or can I? Would this conversion result in a loss of >> quality, >> however small, converting from wav to Apple? Alternatively is it >> possible >> to >> add formats to Itunes so that the wav files might be exported from >> Itunes >> with their tags, ideally like a flec or lossless windows media >> format? >> Thanks for any response. >> Gordon McFarlane >> - Original Message - >> From: "Kevin Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " >> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 7:55 PM >> Subject: Re: Putting LP's on the Computer >> >> >>> The only thing I'd add to this note is that you have more choice >>> these >>> days >>> than ripping to WAV format to get true CD quality results. >>> Lossless WMA >>> and >>> FLAC are two formats that come to mind. Both of these formats >>> will give >>> you >>> identical results to the original CD and WAV file but will yield >>> slightly >>> smaller files. Both will also provide ID3 tag support which WAV >>> files >>> will >>> not. >>> >>> Regards. >>> >>> Kevin >>> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Jerry Richer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " >>> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 7:21 PM >>> Subject: Re: Putting LP's on the Computer >>> >>> Kris: Of course you won't be interested in MP3 or any other compression schemes. You will want to record your collection as wave files. Any compression scheme results in lost quality which is noticeable by people who really appreciate listening to music. You can record at most any quality you like. CD quality is good enough for most people. You can record with higher quality but I dare say that most people could never tell the difference. If you want better than CD quality then you may need to get a new sound card. but then again maybe your Sound Blaster does support some of the higher quality specifications. I would stick with my Sound Blaster. There are purportedly better sound cards on the market for this purpose. But the fact is that analogue to digital converters are very well understood these days and even the cheap sound cards have good ones. It doesn't matter what program you use. If two programs record at >
Re: COVERTING AND DEALING WITH LOSSLESS FORMATS
Thanks Kevin and Dane It's good to know that I won't lose anything between wav and another lossless format - it's tempting to believe that there must be some loss somewhere. I'm not sure what you're suggesting Dane - the file is in wav format just now with the Itunes library holding all the tags in full. If I were to convert to Apple lossless or just leave it in wav is there a way of adding a conversion codec to Itunes to make it a different format like flec or Windows Media format? Regards. Gordon - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:54 PM Subject: COVERTING AND DEALING WITH LOSSLESS FORMATS > Ok, well if I may throw mmy 2 cents in here. Itunes should allow the > conversion of Apple Lossless (or AAC Lossless if you prefer) to Wav > but the next step will require another application to convert that > wave audio to FLAC, nothing that an Apple Script cannot automate of > course. > > On 19/07/2007, at 5:32 AM, Kevin Lloyd wrote: > > Hi Gordon. > > You won't lose any quality converting from WAV to apple lossless. > Assuming > that you then have all ID3 tags intact, if you can find a program to > convert > from apple lossless to FLAC or lossless WMA, then again there won't > be any > loss in quality. > > Regards. > > Kevin > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - Original Message - > From: "G. McFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 12:08 PM > Subject: Re: Putting LP's on the Computer > > >> Hi >> I have just a query based on your reply. >> I ripped all my large record collection to wav before I realised >> that the >> ID >> tags would not be preserved. I did so in ITunes and so because the >> Tags >> are >> in the library all the details remain. If I export to any of the >> Itunes >> formats supported than the tags go with it however if I try to use >> an;y >> other program only the name of the song and artist are copied from >> the wav >> file. >> My question is: I can use the Apple lossless codec in itunes to >> keep the >> wav >> lossless, or can I? Would this conversion result in a loss of quality, >> however small, converting from wav to Apple? Alternatively is it >> possible >> to >> add formats to Itunes so that the wav files might be exported from >> Itunes >> with their tags, ideally like a flec or lossless windows media format? >> Thanks for any response. >> Gordon McFarlane >> - Original Message - >> From: "Kevin Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " >> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 7:55 PM >> Subject: Re: Putting LP's on the Computer >> >> >>> The only thing I'd add to this note is that you have more choice >>> these >>> days >>> than ripping to WAV format to get true CD quality results. >>> Lossless WMA >>> and >>> FLAC are two formats that come to mind. Both of these formats >>> will give >>> you >>> identical results to the original CD and WAV file but will yield >>> slightly >>> smaller files. Both will also provide ID3 tag support which WAV >>> files >>> will >>> not. >>> >>> Regards. >>> >>> Kevin >>> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Jerry Richer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " >>> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 7:21 PM >>> Subject: Re: Putting LP's on the Computer >>> >>> Kris: Of course you won't be interested in MP3 or any other compression schemes. You will want to record your collection as wave files. Any compression scheme results in lost quality which is noticeable by people who really appreciate listening to music. You can record at most any quality you like. CD quality is good enough for most people. You can record with higher quality but I dare say that most people could never tell the difference. If you want better than CD quality then you may need to get a new sound card. but then again maybe your Sound Blaster does support some of the higher quality specifications. I would stick with my Sound Blaster. There are purportedly better sound cards on the market for this purpose. But the fact is that analogue to digital converters are very well understood these days and even the cheap sound cards have good ones. It doesn't matter what program you use. If two programs record at the same sampleing frequency and the same bit resolution then the two applications will give identical results. The magic is in the sound card. The recording program only needs to support the capabilities of the sound card. I make my recordings at CD quality, 44,100 Samples Per Second and bit resolution of 16 bits per sample in Stereo. Any sound card and most any recording program will support this. I use Sound Forge
Re: Sound editor which works on flac files?
Ah excellent, thanks for posting this. On 20/07/2007, at 1:18 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: Hello! GOldwave do this i think. It can open and save to flac. /Anders. - Original Message - From: "Matthew Bullis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 3:10 PM Subject: Sound editor which works on flac files? > Hello, is there an editor which will open up flac files to edit > them, and > then save back to flac when done? It would save me a step if I > didn't have > to convert to .wav, load the .wav in Sound Forge, save back > to .wav, and > convert again to flac. > Thanks a lot. > Matthew > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone uk 0121 288 4976 Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 Fax +61 3 9743 7954 mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 Skype: callto:grtdane12 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server authentication. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin
I must admit, I get a good laugh out of some people who just hunt around for excuses without actually reading fact, I guess that's the "blind" for you, easier to knock something than read or research something or try something. The I phone I admit is not perfect but neither are a million other products but yet most are usable with a little forethought, at the present stage the Ip phone cannot be used by a totally blind person because of the nature of its design and in a previous message I posted a way that this problem could be rectified. I also said that if you went to the pages pertaining to the I Phone, you could bring up the Accessability pages and you would discover that many accessability features have been built-in to help people including people with low vision, deafness etc. I'll be perfectly frank with all of you, as I'm deaf-blind, I may consider purchasing this phone in the future for the main benefit of accessing its "TTY" capabilities. Obviously I'm not going to waste my money until I find out how these work but as I use a "TTY" allot of my time then this feature (assuming I can get it to work somehow) will be highly useful for my communications needs etc. On 19/07/2007, at 11:38 PM, Keith Gillard wrote: Yup. If your visually impaired you might be able to squint and see the phone. Just another way to burn out what vision you may have left. It's really too bad though, as a simple MP3 talk clip style TTS of each menu and function would make this phone a real option for blind folk...Keith - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 3:50 AM Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin Indeed and you'll find that Apple have done everything as far as the design allows to build accessability into this phone, go and look up I Phone accessability and you'll find at least 2 pages listing accessability features on this device. On 19/07/2007, at 4:41 PM, Gary Wood wrote: Well if Apple says that they want to put accessible products in the blind marketplace, we should call them on this issue. - Original Message - From: "Don Ball" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 7:56 PM Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > maybe it has a touch screen like the I Phone. Still don't know why > blindness > organizations aren't calling them on that but I gues they don't > fill that > is > worth the trouble. > - Original Message - > From: "Keith Gillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:48 PM > Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > > Thankfully yes! > > The majority of the sighted market. > > definitely not the accessible market > > I've been using a 120 gig hard drive on an accessible jukebox for > three > years now. > > It's nice to see that Apple is finally catching up. > > kG. > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:35 PM > Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > > Well yep, I get that from my phone too but I don't get a 120 gig hard > drive and I'm afraid that I'm not going to lose any sleep whatsoever > if Apple doesn't bother with speech on an Ipod, with luck there may > be Rockbox for the 6th generation and here's hoping but even if their > isn't, I can still use my Ipods quite happily and as far as I know, > the "wheel" interface will stay the same so no, sorry, its not the > end of the world and yep, thankfully, Apple are acting for a majority > in the market. > > On 19/07/2007, at 9:19 AM, Keith Gillard wrote: > > Sorry dude! > > Not impressed. I get all this from my smart phone and Rockbox. > > Now, if your telling me that Apple is going to launch the promised > speech > capabilities of Ipods, then I will really be impressed...KG > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list." > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 4:29 PM > Subject: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > > Ok, that's what today's press here is writing about and what's so > good about this. Some excellent features on the way including Wi-Fi > built-in and best of all in my view, blue tooth compatibility for > file transfer and stereo communications with headphones and speakers > and a 120 Gig hard drive. > > > > > > > ** > > > Dane Trethowan > > From Melton Victoria Australia > > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > phone uk 0121 288 4976 > > Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 > > Fax +61 3 9743 7954 > > mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 > > Skype: callto:grtdane12 > > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ** > > > > > > > Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server > authentication. > > > > Audio List Help, Guideli
Re: Sound editor which works on flac files?
Yep, Total Recorder will do just fine. On 19/07/2007, at 11:10 PM, Matthew Bullis wrote: Hello, is there an editor which will open up flac files to edit them, and then save back to flac when done? It would save me a step if I didn't have to convert to .wav, load the .wav in Sound Forge, save back to .wav, and convert again to flac. Thanks a lot. Matthew Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone uk 0121 288 4976 Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 Fax +61 3 9743 7954 mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 Skype: callto:grtdane12 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server authentication. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin
I stand by what I said, the TTS was never put there with accessability in mind. On 19/07/2007, at 11:16 PM, Keith Gillard wrote: Um, Actually, The LGVX 4500 and Nokia 3rd generation phones have a TTS built in to the OS. rudimentary I admit but still, contrary to your statement...Keith - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 7:03 PM Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin It doesn't actually, it has the wheel interface which current IPODS have. Blind organisations have actually made feelings known about the touch screen on an I phone but having said that Apple has done allot to impliment accessability into the device, the nature of the device stops us from using it which is unfortuante however if you have a bit of vision then you'll have no trouble whatsoever in using the I phone I'm told. Various options regarding accessability for the I phone are being explored, the most likely being the use of a blue tooth or similar keyboard. May I remind listers that if Apple certainly haven't done anything about speech on a mobile phone then neither has Nokia, Samsung or most other phone manifacturers, its been up to third party developers to get that ball rolling such as those who have developped Talks, Hal who have a system out to get mobile phones to speak etc. On 19/07/2007, at 10:56 AM, Don Ball wrote: maybe it has a touch screen like the I Phone. Still don't know why blindness organizations aren't calling them on that but I gues they don't fill that is worth the trouble. - Original Message - From: "Keith Gillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:48 PM Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin Thankfully yes! The majority of the sighted market. definitely not the accessible market I've been using a 120 gig hard drive on an accessible jukebox for three years now. It's nice to see that Apple is finally catching up. kG. - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:35 PM Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin Well yep, I get that from my phone too but I don't get a 120 gig hard drive and I'm afraid that I'm not going to lose any sleep whatsoever if Apple doesn't bother with speech on an Ipod, with luck there may be Rockbox for the 6th generation and here's hoping but even if their isn't, I can still use my Ipods quite happily and as far as I know, the "wheel" interface will stay the same so no, sorry, its not the end of the world and yep, thankfully, Apple are acting for a majority in the market. On 19/07/2007, at 9:19 AM, Keith Gillard wrote: Sorry dude! Not impressed. I get all this from my smart phone and Rockbox. Now, if your telling me that Apple is going to launch the promised speech capabilities of Ipods, then I will really be impressed...KG - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list." Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 4:29 PM Subject: 6th generation IPOD's Comin Ok, that's what today's press here is writing about and what's so good about this. Some excellent features on the way including Wi-Fi built-in and best of all in my view, blue tooth compatibility for file transfer and stereo communications with headphones and speakers and a 120 Gig hard drive. ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone uk 0121 288 4976 Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 Fax +61 3 9743 7954 mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 Skype: callto:grtdane12 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server authentication. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone uk 0121 288 4976 Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 Fax +61 3 9743 7954 mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 Skype: callto:grtdane12 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server authentication. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http:
Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin
Well in that case, I can say that everyone is sight impaired at some time or another. Something to be said for that! - Original Message - From: "Richard Claypool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:25 PM Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > they're talking about adding speach so that people won't be looking down > at > their ipods. Though, imho, if you're stupid enough to be looking at your > ipod when crossing the street I don't feel too sorry for you. > aim > rclaypo > skype > lord_of_beer > - Original Message - > From: "Keith Gillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:48 PM > Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > >> Thankfully yes! >> >> The majority of the sighted market. >> >> definitely not the accessible market >> >> I've been using a 120 gig hard drive on an accessible jukebox for three >> years now. >> >> It's nice to see that Apple is finally catching up. >> >> kG. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " >> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:35 PM >> Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin >> >> >> Well yep, I get that from my phone too but I don't get a 120 gig hard >> drive and I'm afraid that I'm not going to lose any sleep whatsoever >> if Apple doesn't bother with speech on an Ipod, with luck there may >> be Rockbox for the 6th generation and here's hoping but even if their >> isn't, I can still use my Ipods quite happily and as far as I know, >> the "wheel" interface will stay the same so no, sorry, its not the >> end of the world and yep, thankfully, Apple are acting for a majority >> in the market. >> >> On 19/07/2007, at 9:19 AM, Keith Gillard wrote: >> >> Sorry dude! >> >> Not impressed. I get all this from my smart phone and Rockbox. >> >> Now, if your telling me that Apple is going to launch the promised >> speech >> capabilities of Ipods, then I will really be impressed...KG >> - Original Message - >> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC audio discussion list." >> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 4:29 PM >> Subject: 6th generation IPOD's Comin >> >> >> Ok, that's what today's press here is writing about and what's so >> good about this. Some excellent features on the way including Wi-Fi >> built-in and best of all in my view, blue tooth compatibility for >> file transfer and stereo communications with headphones and speakers >> and a 120 Gig hard drive. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ** >> >> >> Dane Trethowan >> >> From Melton Victoria Australia >> >> Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> phone uk 0121 288 4976 >> >> Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 >> >> Fax +61 3 9743 7954 >> >> mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 >> >> Skype: callto:grtdane12 >> >> MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ** >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server >> authentication. >> >> >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ** >> >> >> Dane Trethowan >> >> From Melton Victoria Australia >> >> Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> phone uk 0121 288 4976 >> >> Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 >> >> Fax +61 3 9743 7954 >> >> mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 >> >> Skype: callto:grtdane12 >> >> MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ** >> >> >> >> >> >> Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server >> authentication. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: W4a files
Are you sure it's w4a and not m4a? Bruce On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:15:30 +0200, "Anders Holmberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Hello! > Hmm, then i can not say anything about it. > So i am also asking if someone else can help us out here? > /Anders. > - Original Message - > From: "Jason Boston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 2:02 PM > Subject: RE: W4a files > > > > Hmmm It plays like an audio file and winamp can play it too. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg > > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 6:01 AM > > To: PC audio discussion list. > > Subject: Re: W4a files > > > > > > Hello! > > I have tried searching on google but the only thing that comes up is the > > > > following site. > > http://filext.com/file-extension/WDA > > You might check that out. > > IT seems not beeing an audio file though. > > /Anders. > > - Original Message - > > From: "Jason Boston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" > > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:46 AM > > Subject: W4a files > > > > > >> What format are these files? Is this the next generation of mp3 or > >> wma? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > >> http://www.pc-audio.org > >> > >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > > > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > > http://www.pc-audio.org > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > > http://www.pc-audio.org > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.ogts.net Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound editor which works on flac files?
Hello! GOldwave do this i think. It can open and save to flac. /Anders. - Original Message - From: "Matthew Bullis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 3:10 PM Subject: Sound editor which works on flac files? > Hello, is there an editor which will open up flac files to edit them, and > then save back to flac when done? It would save me a step if I didn't have > to convert to .wav, load the .wav in Sound Forge, save back to .wav, and > convert again to flac. > Thanks a lot. > Matthew > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: W4a files
Hello! Hmm, then i can not say anything about it. So i am also asking if someone else can help us out here? /Anders. - Original Message - From: "Jason Boston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 2:02 PM Subject: RE: W4a files > Hmmm It plays like an audio file and winamp can play it too. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 6:01 AM > To: PC audio discussion list. > Subject: Re: W4a files > > > Hello! > I have tried searching on google but the only thing that comes up is the > > following site. > http://filext.com/file-extension/WDA > You might check that out. > IT seems not beeing an audio file though. > /Anders. > - Original Message - > From: "Jason Boston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:46 AM > Subject: W4a files > > >> What format are these files? Is this the next generation of mp3 or >> wma? >> >> >> >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin
Yup. If your visually impaired you might be able to squint and see the phone. Just another way to burn out what vision you may have left. It's really too bad though, as a simple MP3 talk clip style TTS of each menu and function would make this phone a real option for blind folk...Keith - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 3:50 AM Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin Indeed and you'll find that Apple have done everything as far as the design allows to build accessability into this phone, go and look up I Phone accessability and you'll find at least 2 pages listing accessability features on this device. On 19/07/2007, at 4:41 PM, Gary Wood wrote: Well if Apple says that they want to put accessible products in the blind marketplace, we should call them on this issue. - Original Message - From: "Don Ball" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 7:56 PM Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > maybe it has a touch screen like the I Phone. Still don't know why > blindness > organizations aren't calling them on that but I gues they don't > fill that > is > worth the trouble. > - Original Message - > From: "Keith Gillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:48 PM > Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > > Thankfully yes! > > The majority of the sighted market. > > definitely not the accessible market > > I've been using a 120 gig hard drive on an accessible jukebox for > three > years now. > > It's nice to see that Apple is finally catching up. > > kG. > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:35 PM > Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > > Well yep, I get that from my phone too but I don't get a 120 gig hard > drive and I'm afraid that I'm not going to lose any sleep whatsoever > if Apple doesn't bother with speech on an Ipod, with luck there may > be Rockbox for the 6th generation and here's hoping but even if their > isn't, I can still use my Ipods quite happily and as far as I know, > the "wheel" interface will stay the same so no, sorry, its not the > end of the world and yep, thankfully, Apple are acting for a majority > in the market. > > On 19/07/2007, at 9:19 AM, Keith Gillard wrote: > > Sorry dude! > > Not impressed. I get all this from my smart phone and Rockbox. > > Now, if your telling me that Apple is going to launch the promised > speech > capabilities of Ipods, then I will really be impressed...KG > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list." > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 4:29 PM > Subject: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > > Ok, that's what today's press here is writing about and what's so > good about this. Some excellent features on the way including Wi-Fi > built-in and best of all in my view, blue tooth compatibility for > file transfer and stereo communications with headphones and speakers > and a 120 Gig hard drive. > > > > > > > ** > > > Dane Trethowan > > From Melton Victoria Australia > > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > phone uk 0121 288 4976 > > Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 > > Fax +61 3 9743 7954 > > mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 > > Skype: callto:grtdane12 > > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ** > > > > > > > Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server > authentication. > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > ** > > > Dane Trethowan > > From Melton Victoria Australia > > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > phone uk 0121 288 4976 > > Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 > > Fax +61 3 9743 7954 > > mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 > > Skype: callto:grtdane12 > > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ** > > > > > > Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server > authentication. > > > > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED
Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin
Um, Actually, The LGVX 4500 and Nokia 3rd generation phones have a TTS built in to the OS. rudimentary I admit but still, contrary to your statement...Keith - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 7:03 PM Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin It doesn't actually, it has the wheel interface which current IPODS have. Blind organisations have actually made feelings known about the touch screen on an I phone but having said that Apple has done allot to impliment accessability into the device, the nature of the device stops us from using it which is unfortuante however if you have a bit of vision then you'll have no trouble whatsoever in using the I phone I'm told. Various options regarding accessability for the I phone are being explored, the most likely being the use of a blue tooth or similar keyboard. May I remind listers that if Apple certainly haven't done anything about speech on a mobile phone then neither has Nokia, Samsung or most other phone manifacturers, its been up to third party developers to get that ball rolling such as those who have developped Talks, Hal who have a system out to get mobile phones to speak etc. On 19/07/2007, at 10:56 AM, Don Ball wrote: maybe it has a touch screen like the I Phone. Still don't know why blindness organizations aren't calling them on that but I gues they don't fill that is worth the trouble. - Original Message - From: "Keith Gillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:48 PM Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin Thankfully yes! The majority of the sighted market. definitely not the accessible market I've been using a 120 gig hard drive on an accessible jukebox for three years now. It's nice to see that Apple is finally catching up. kG. - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:35 PM Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin Well yep, I get that from my phone too but I don't get a 120 gig hard drive and I'm afraid that I'm not going to lose any sleep whatsoever if Apple doesn't bother with speech on an Ipod, with luck there may be Rockbox for the 6th generation and here's hoping but even if their isn't, I can still use my Ipods quite happily and as far as I know, the "wheel" interface will stay the same so no, sorry, its not the end of the world and yep, thankfully, Apple are acting for a majority in the market. On 19/07/2007, at 9:19 AM, Keith Gillard wrote: Sorry dude! Not impressed. I get all this from my smart phone and Rockbox. Now, if your telling me that Apple is going to launch the promised speech capabilities of Ipods, then I will really be impressed...KG - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list." Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 4:29 PM Subject: 6th generation IPOD's Comin Ok, that's what today's press here is writing about and what's so good about this. Some excellent features on the way including Wi-Fi built-in and best of all in my view, blue tooth compatibility for file transfer and stereo communications with headphones and speakers and a 120 Gig hard drive. ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone uk 0121 288 4976 Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 Fax +61 3 9743 7954 mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 Skype: callto:grtdane12 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server authentication. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone uk 0121 288 4976 Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 Fax +61 3 9743 7954 mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 Skype: callto:grtdane12 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server authentication. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane
Sound editor which works on flac files?
Hello, is there an editor which will open up flac files to edit them, and then save back to flac when done? It would save me a step if I didn't have to convert to .wav, load the .wav in Sound Forge, save back to .wav, and convert again to flac. Thanks a lot. Matthew Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: creative zen stone
Hi Leslie, I have one and like it very much. I got mine on Amazon.com and I think I paid $33.00 for it. But you can get different colors for $39.00. Hope this helps! Jim On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 19:25:29 -1000 "leslie ferrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I was reading about the creative Zen keystone player. Sounds pretty > neat and not to expensive. Does anyone have the serial for the 1 > gigabyte that's been talked about here? Thanks Leslie > check out this new and exciting business opportunity and it's > totally free!!! http://www.mypowermall.com/Biz/Home/5847 > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: W4a files
Hmmm It plays like an audio file and winamp can play it too. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 6:01 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: W4a files Hello! I have tried searching on google but the only thing that comes up is the following site. http://filext.com/file-extension/WDA You might check that out. IT seems not beeing an audio file though. /Anders. - Original Message - From: "Jason Boston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:46 AM Subject: W4a files > What format are these files? Is this the next generation of mp3 or > wma? > > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: W4a files
Hello! I have tried searching on google but the only thing that comes up is the following site. http://filext.com/file-extension/WDA You might check that out. IT seems not beeing an audio file though. /Anders. - Original Message - From: "Jason Boston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:46 AM Subject: W4a files > What format are these files? Is this the next generation of mp3 or wma? > > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Windows Media Player on PDA and various formats
Hello Cornell! The Cingular 8525 does have a memory card slot for more storage, but I am not sure how, or if, one could add memory to the phone. That's probably something one would have to take into a shop for I suppose, but I don't know. How does your wife add memory to her T-Mobile Phone? It it a software thing or must one insert memory (RAM) sticks? My Windows Media does play some things (movie clips and songs from stuff from the mobile phone system), but nothing I generate, like my web site stuff or radio stations (including ACB Radio). During a demo of this phone on a blog and Code Factory, the structor played something from a radio station and an MP3, but he didn't mention anything about memory. Maybe you ca n shed some light on this issue for me. I am not that familiar with memory adding on a PDA, but would like to learn about it. thanks very much for your assistance and info. James Robinson Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin
Indeed and you'll find that Apple have done everything as far as the design allows to build accessability into this phone, go and look up I Phone accessability and you'll find at least 2 pages listing accessability features on this device. On 19/07/2007, at 4:41 PM, Gary Wood wrote: Well if Apple says that they want to put accessible products in the blind marketplace, we should call them on this issue. - Original Message - From: "Don Ball" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 7:56 PM Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > maybe it has a touch screen like the I Phone. Still don't know why > blindness > organizations aren't calling them on that but I gues they don't > fill that > is > worth the trouble. > - Original Message - > From: "Keith Gillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:48 PM > Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > > Thankfully yes! > > The majority of the sighted market. > > definitely not the accessible market > > I've been using a 120 gig hard drive on an accessible jukebox for > three > years now. > > It's nice to see that Apple is finally catching up. > > kG. > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:35 PM > Subject: Re: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > > Well yep, I get that from my phone too but I don't get a 120 gig hard > drive and I'm afraid that I'm not going to lose any sleep whatsoever > if Apple doesn't bother with speech on an Ipod, with luck there may > be Rockbox for the 6th generation and here's hoping but even if their > isn't, I can still use my Ipods quite happily and as far as I know, > the "wheel" interface will stay the same so no, sorry, its not the > end of the world and yep, thankfully, Apple are acting for a majority > in the market. > > On 19/07/2007, at 9:19 AM, Keith Gillard wrote: > > Sorry dude! > > Not impressed. I get all this from my smart phone and Rockbox. > > Now, if your telling me that Apple is going to launch the promised > speech > capabilities of Ipods, then I will really be impressed...KG > - Original Message - > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list." > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 4:29 PM > Subject: 6th generation IPOD's Comin > > > Ok, that's what today's press here is writing about and what's so > good about this. Some excellent features on the way including Wi-Fi > built-in and best of all in my view, blue tooth compatibility for > file transfer and stereo communications with headphones and speakers > and a 120 Gig hard drive. > > > > > > > ** > > > Dane Trethowan > > From Melton Victoria Australia > > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > phone uk 0121 288 4976 > > Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 > > Fax +61 3 9743 7954 > > mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 > > Skype: callto:grtdane12 > > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ** > > > > > > > Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server > authentication. > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > ** > > > Dane Trethowan > > From Melton Victoria Australia > > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > phone uk 0121 288 4976 > > Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 > > Fax +61 3 9743 7954 > > mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 > > Skype: callto:grtdane12 > > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ** > > > > > > Join the fight against spam! Have your ISP enable client/server > authentication. > > > > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone uk 0121 288 4976 Phone/tty (+61 3) 9747 975 Fax +61 3 9743 7954 mobile/sms: +61425 777 508 Skype: callto:grtdane12 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** --
Re: creative zen stone
hi, there is a 2 gig version on the market now. kevin - (lord l) "Civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without notice"-Will Durant contact me: email/msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: lordandladyl - Original Message - From: "Chris Skarstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:34 AM Subject: Re: creative zen stone > Hi. > What do you mean by "the serial"?not sure about that? the only serial > number I know of is a number that's found on the box of the package > when you get it, and it's usually used to register your product. > and in case anyone's doing searches for it, it's actually called the > Creative Zen Stone, no key in there. > If by serial you mean the model number for it, there's really only > one model and it's 1 gig, so unless you get something else, that's > what you'll get. I've only ever seen the Creative Zen Stone in a 1 > gig model, so I believe that's all there is. > > > > > > > > At 12:25 AM 7/19/2007, you wrote: >>I was reading about the creative Zen keystone player. Sounds pretty >>neat and not to expensive. Does anyone have the serial for the 1 >>gigabyte that's been talked about here? Thanks Leslie >>check out this new and exciting business opportunity and it's >>totally free!!! http://www.mypowermall.com/Biz/Home/5847 >> >> >>Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>http://www.pc-audio.org >> >>To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >>__ NOD32 2405 (20070718) Information __ >> >>This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >>http://www.eset.com > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: creative zen stone
thanks there are also some that are 2 gig. - Original Message - From: "Chris Skarstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 9:34 PM Subject: Re: creative zen stone > Hi. > What do you mean by "the serial"?not sure about that? the only serial > number I know of is a number that's found on the box of the package > when you get it, and it's usually used to register your product. > and in case anyone's doing searches for it, it's actually called the > Creative Zen Stone, no key in there. > If by serial you mean the model number for it, there's really only > one model and it's 1 gig, so unless you get something else, that's > what you'll get. I've only ever seen the Creative Zen Stone in a 1 > gig model, so I believe that's all there is. > > > > > > > > At 12:25 AM 7/19/2007, you wrote: >>I was reading about the creative Zen keystone player. Sounds pretty >>neat and not to expensive. Does anyone have the serial for the 1 >>gigabyte that's been talked about here? Thanks Leslie >>check out this new and exciting business opportunity and it's >>totally free!!! http://www.mypowermall.com/Biz/Home/5847 >> >> >>Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>http://www.pc-audio.org >> >>To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >>__ NOD32 2405 (20070718) Information __ >> >>This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >>http://www.eset.com > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: creative zen stone
Hi. What do you mean by "the serial"?not sure about that? the only serial number I know of is a number that's found on the box of the package when you get it, and it's usually used to register your product. and in case anyone's doing searches for it, it's actually called the Creative Zen Stone, no key in there. If by serial you mean the model number for it, there's really only one model and it's 1 gig, so unless you get something else, that's what you'll get. I've only ever seen the Creative Zen Stone in a 1 gig model, so I believe that's all there is. At 12:25 AM 7/19/2007, you wrote: >I was reading about the creative Zen keystone player. Sounds pretty >neat and not to expensive. Does anyone have the serial for the 1 >gigabyte that's been talked about here? Thanks Leslie >check out this new and exciting business opportunity and it's >totally free!!! http://www.mypowermall.com/Biz/Home/5847 > > >Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >http://www.pc-audio.org > >To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >__ NOD32 2405 (20070718) Information __ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.eset.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
