Re: help please

2009-02-12 Thread Darrell Shandrow

Hello Sean,

Please give us a bit more detail as to what features you need in such a 
device.


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Dear Friends

I am looking for a good pda to fit into my bag when I am going away from 
home I hope some one can help me.


all the best from sean waiting.

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Re: Can you recommend a portable TV antenna?

2008-06-19 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Jerry,

I wouldn't recommend any further investment in analog TV technology as it 
will be going away next year. :-(

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Subject: Can you recommend a portable TV antenna?


 I have a Sangean pocket radio that receives television broadcasts.  The
headphone jack also serves as a place to attach an external antenna.
 In my area I can receive one television station fairly well but not
well enough to be counted on.  Can you recommend a portable TV antenna that
I can carry around.
 Thanks.

   Jerry


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Re: Ujnfortunate AOL News and Information

2008-06-08 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi James,

I think that a bunch of blind people organizing a boycott wouldn't do any 
good, however, if we can find ways to convince our sighted colleagues, 
friends, relatives and neighbors to purchase only from companies that also 
happen to pay attention to accessibility, then, we would have something 
useful. :-)

In many other areas, AOL has actually made great strides forward in 
accessibility.  AOL's Instant Messenger and Mail services are known to work 
well with screen readers.  I use AIM on my job to communicate with other 
members of my team around the world.

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To: 
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Subject: Ujnfortunate AOL News and Information


For as long as I can recall, which is ever since AOL has been around, their 
services have not been that accessible to Blind people.  I know I have heard 
that they have done some things to make their services more accessible to 
us, but it has been a struggle for them to even do anything.  I guess I am 
wondering why blind people continue to support companies who don't seem to 
care anything about our accessability needs and continue to put out products 
that make us work very hard at using them.

Now, about the AOL's new CBS Player, AOL knew of their plan to change their 
program, so why couldn't they test and make sure the product is accessible 
to screen readers before they installed it.  It makes absolutely no sense to 
put out a product that is not accessible to all of its users.  AOL knows 
blind people use their service, especially radio and music playing 
components of their system, so why do they continue to disregard us?  Maybe 
just because they can.

I don't buy that argument that "business requirements forced them to rush 
the product in prior to them wanting to do so.  CBS has been around for a 
while and I often access their stations and theeir player seems to be 
accessible enough.  Does the one AOL uses work differently than the CBS 
stations would use?

It sickens me when companies continue to cry about not making things 
accessible because of business reasons.  We blind people pay our 
subscription fees to them, so shouldn't our needs matter too.  I think blind 
people make up a pretty sizeable market for their types of services.

My question would also be, if it is so hard to do, then how do other 
companies do it.  Like someone said, doesn't they (AOL) own Winamp?  Why not 
use Winamp for their needs?

I have had enough of this stuff and excuses.  I will no longer spend my 
money with companies who act this way.  I can take my money elsewhere.  We 
should do this across the board and let those companies who don't seem to 
care know what we are doing.  Those companies that we have to use, then we 
can sue them into complying with the law; those who we only use for pleasure 
and entertainment, we should let go.  You know, blind people get such 
treatment because we accept it and continue to buy stuff that don't work for 
us.  Companies like Apple, who makes a cell phone with no keyboard or 
bluetooth accessability; Intuit (Quicken), who produces an almost totally 
inaccessible tax program, even though blind people have to do taxes to and 
want and need to do their own taxes; and most of their radio automated 
programs (OTSDJ), which require us to always script them into shape; and 
many more, who just don't seem to care, should be dropped by us and not 
used.  I know we will say that we need some of these programs, but these 
companies don't seem to care and only give lip service to making their 
products more accessible.

I would say to AOL, "Get your act in Order."  Make this product accessible, 
it is only a software thing and shouldn't take too long to take care of it. 
Excuse time is over and better service is in order.

Finally, every person who continue to use these types of products despite 
their companies' failure to care about our needs are contributing to the 
problem; stop keeping them into budsiness to discriminate against you and 
put your money where your needs are.  If they say, our money is not enough 
to make a difference, then let's move on and find a product that meets out 
needs.  If we need the product and it is the only one around, then sue those 
companies into making their products accessible.

I heard this stuff fifteen to twenty years ago, when I got my first (PCXT) 
and should not be hearing it now; we are trying, but business requirements 
make us go backwards or do nothing at all.  Let's get our butts in gear and 
start demanding better service; there is absolutely no reason why any 
software should be inaccessible to blind people, as the technology is there 
to make anything accessible.  AOL and similar companies should ask us before 
emplimenting programs that don't meet our needs and maybe we can help them 
know what route to take.

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Re: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)

2008-06-08 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Albert, Chris and all,

I do think Tom Wlodkowski is doing his best in this situation, but it is 
also clear to me that AOL's accessibility team has no real significant 
power.  They can give advice to others within the company.  Sometimes, those 
others decide to follow it, other times they do not.  I do agree that, given 
the existence of accessible technology in this area, there's no good reason 
for CBS to have dropped the ball and for AOL to have just accepted the 
situation.  I hope it gets resolved soon, and that anyone concerned about 
this issue will indeed send their feedback to both AOL and CBS.



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From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 8:08 AM
Subject: RE: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)


Chris, in the main I agree with your stance on this issue.  However, I don't
think it's important that we know whether AOL could have made a decision
sooner.  While I'd like to satisfy my curiosity with regard to this issue it
will be very difficult to prove.  Furthermore I don't believe the law
mandates that every aspect of a site be accessible.  I do think owners of
these large sites have to make a reasonable effort to make it so.  Therefore
if Curtis Chung and the AOL person are working together in good faith toward
a solution we need to be satisfied with that partnership and those goals for
the moment.  AOL has made great strides toward the development of fully
accessible web content and it appears they're interested in progressing
toward the same end goal as before.  It will be interesting to see how
quickly we have access to the on line radio back.

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On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 10:44 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)

Well, I fully believe that law suits should be a last resort, and we
shouldn't "panic". In this case though, I'd like to point out a few things.

"we will take some significant steps backward as we transition to the use of
a third party player. We apologize for the inconvenience"

I believe Curtis Chong when he says "Mr. Wlodkowski ... is a man of
integrity and a person who is deeply committed to ensuring access to AOL's
services by all people with disabilities.", but it sounds to me like our
inability to access AOL or CBS Radio is considered a mere inconvenience to
AOL. Since we have other streaming options, I suppose technically it is just
an inconvenience, but if everyone providing on line streams and media
players felt this way then it wouldn't be long before this vital source of
information and entertainment would be inaccessible to the blind. I agree
that as blind persons and Americans, we have bigger issues facing us, but
you can always say that about any given issue. Furthermore, more and more
people are getting their information on these weighty issues over the
internet, and the blind should be able to do the same.

"The necessity of this new business model was driven by the dramatic
increase in the music royalty rates paid for Internet Radio.  This action by
the record labels left AOL no choice but to look for an alternative way to
stay in the internet radio business. Given the business demands and
accelerated transition, there wasn't ample time for us to effective address
the major usability issues with the CBS Player. The AOL Radio team is aware
of the accessibility barriers presented by this transition, and is committed
to addressing the issue with CBS Radio once the new player interface
launches on June 9."


When did AOL and others know about this dramatic increase in royalty rates
paid to internet radio? Is it really the case that they didn't have ample
time to deal with accessibility issues? Why are they waiting until June 9th
to address this issue with CBS radio?

Like I said, we shouldn't "panic", although I'm not sure I've seen anyone
panic yet, and we shouldn't jump to the conclusion that anyone needs to file
a law suit. On the other hand, although AOL and Mr.

Wlodkowski are coming clean with this issue, I don't think they should be
given a free pass either. For my part, I'm not convinced they couldn't have
addressed this issue before June 9. Furthermore, I don't think business
needs are a justification to break the law.

Well, that's just my $0.02, and I know people who are a lot smarter than me
and who are a lot familiar with all of these issues are looking into this.
I'm just tossing out my opinion, so feel free to hit the delete key and
ignore it!


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Re: Accessibility Evangelism and Unfortunate News From AmericaOnline(AOL) Radio

2008-06-07 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hello Mike,

Well, hmm, of course, urgings to advocate for better accessibility do not 
negate other items on one's plate, and I even said this particular specific 
matter isn't of the utmost priority in my own article on this subject... 
:-)

This AOL player issue is primarily used in the article as yet another 
example of possibly taking steps backward and attempting to do something 
about it.  How many minutes does it take each of you to write two short 
notes: one to the AOL accessibility team and another to CBS?  I even 
provided the e-mail address and link in my article.  What more do you want?

Of course, again, there are always many many reasons and ways to justify 
doing absolutely nothing at all.  Somehow, doing or saying nothing at all 
about any accessibility issue, regardless of importance, is emphasized over 
taking any action.  Oh, well...

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From: "Mike Pietruk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: Accessibility Evangelism and Unfortunate News From 
AmericaOnline(AOL) Radio


John and Darrell

While I sympathize with your cause (and at this point do you guys even
know what problems this player will present, if any),
blind people in particular and Americans in general have far bigger things
on their plate these days then worrying if someone can get at a media
player.
John, your safely crossing a street deserves 250% greater attention than
this CBS/AOL player.
Perhaps this player will prove workable via scripts or whatever.
Perhaps other players can and will play the same streams.
Frankly, I am ffar more concerned about the spiraling cost of gas, how
expensive medical care and insurance is, that, in the case of northern
Florida, you guys are fighting the Central part of the state over water
wrights, and the myriads of other social issues that involve quality of
life.
Sure, it would be nice if this player worked out of the box; but having
watched so many of these blindness evangelist battles, I often have found
that the things that get complained about are usable either directly or
indirectly.
It is not that this isn't important; but there are far more things that
ought to be viewed as important and perhaps some values are totally out of
whack when quantums of energy get directed to an audio player rather than
other things.
There aren't unlimited dollars out there; and frankly I have a greater
concern that John can get home safely than whether he'll have to use
another player to listen to his favorite sports talk show.
why?  Well, if he cannot get around safely, he won't be able to listen to
those shows anyway?
And if he cannot afford adequate health care directly or indirectly, he
won't be around to listen either.

America is going through tough times these days; look at home
foreclosures, rising unemployment rates, and all the rest.  Politicians
cannot embrace the types of things we are talking here at the moment as
frankly it is even sad that we can give these things greater importance
when there are true hurts out there, not just inconveniences.

Yes, I'll be curious Monday to see what this means if anything.  However,
I am guessing that all of us will be listening to most of the same things
we do today, but perhaps in a slightly different way.

And before writing off the new AOL player, I would suggest first looking
at the product to see if the warnings are warranted.
Perhaps they are, but they may not be also.  And there are many ways to
listen to the same thing.





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Accessibility Evangelism and Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL) Radio

2008-06-07 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hello Everyone,

As an accessibility evangelist, of course, I disagree with any and all those 
who frequently make statements emphasizing our "smallness" and 
insignificance in the world at large as a means to justify doing little or 
nothing about accessibility challenges.  Yes.  We are very tiny in number in 
comparison with the rest of the population who is not blind, but that really 
has nothing to do with how well we can make our voices heard in order to 
achieve positive changes for the better.  One possible metaphore might be to 
compare us with those who profess their faith in the Jewish religion here in 
the United States, which is an incredibly small minority in number as 
compared with catholics and evangelical Christians.  Despite their small 
numbers, the Jewish seem to experience little or no difficulty making their 
needs known and they tend to enjoy great success and wealth in all walks of 
life.

I'd like to see something similar happen for those of us who are blind.  We 
can't look to others to make this happen, but only to ourselves.  It must 
start with us!  We must decide that we are valuable human beings deserving 
of our human rights, of the accessibility and equal treatment with our 
sighted peers we must enjoy in order to be able to fully participate in 
society on a par with the sighted.  Though it starts with us, a 
technological world dictates that we have equal access to information in the 
information and knowledge age.  Accessibility must ultimately be available 
if we are to actively and productively participate in such critical areas of 
life as education, employment and leisure.

We must achieve equality of opportunity through making our own accessibility 
solutions where practical and advocating for reasonable accomodations when 
accessibility is required in order for us to participate.  The issues boil 
down to one of these two needs in all cases.  There is no third option of 
taking the path of least resistance; not if we want to count ourselves as 
fully living and breathing human beings and citizens, possessing the same 
inalienable rights and responsibilities already enjoyed by the sighted.

One excellent example of a project where we are making our own accessibility 
is Benetech's Bookshare project available at http://www.bookshare.org. 
Blind people and others with print reading disabilities subscribe to a web 
based service where they may download and read from a selection of tens of 
thousands of books available in an accessible, electronic format for use on 
their computers and portable assistive technology.  This is all made 
possible by a team of blind and sighted volunteers who scan books into 
electronic format and validators who correct scanning errors and reformat 
the books for final entry into the collection.

Another example of making our own accessibility is the existence of the 
blindness access technology industry.  We spend tens of thousands of dollars 
on screen readers, Braille displays, scanners with optical character 
recognition software, specialized personal digital assistants (PDAs) and a 
myriad of other high and low technology items on which we have grown to 
depend in order to adapt ourselves to the world.  In many cases, government 
agencies purchase some or all of this technology under specific 
circumstances, but this is, by no means, guaranteed.

Despite our own efforts, there often remains a wide gap between that which 
we are able to make accessible on our own and that technology which we must 
use in the classroom, on the job, etc.  When we are not able to close these 
gaps through our own efforts and assistive technology, reasonable 
accomodations on the part of the developer of that technology are required 
if we are to be permitted full and equal participation.  Failures to 
reasonably accomodate our needs often result in the curtailment of 
educational opportunities and even the needless loss of jobs!

As a blind community, we can take actions such as the following to improve 
our accessibility to the world of technology around us:
* Understand that we need equal accessibility in order to participate in 
society on a par with our sighted peers.
* Believe and live the concept that accessibility through reasonable 
accomodations is a human right and the right thing to do in all cases.
* Check with other individuals and organizations in the blind community to 
see if the technology has already been made accessible.
* Write letters to technology developers asking that they reasonably 
accomodate our need for accessibility.
* When available, provide suggestions and technical consulting necessary to 
improve accessibility.
* Work to have existing legislation covering accessibility enforced more 
consistently and frequently.
* Encourage the passage of new legislation to clarify our needs and mandate 
increased accessibility in areas not already covered.

Achieving equal participation in the knowledge age is currently a hard 
fought str

Re: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)

2008-06-07 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Kelly,

Indeed, I am understanding so long as AOL is actively working with CBS to 
meet their accessibility obligations under the laws and in accordance with 
NFB's previously agreed upon settlement with AOL. If it turns out this is, 
in fact, not happening in good faith, then NFB should be ultimately taking 
the lead as the organization who originally made the agreement.

In the meantime, I am aware of URL capturing, but I feel it should be AOL 
who provides this information officially as an alternative for its blind and 
visually impaired listeners as a means of showing good faith.

I will say one good thing for AOL in this instance. They are, at least, 
admitting there is a problem, which is a heck of a lot more than most 
mainstream technology companies do for us these days.  Most companies 
continue to believe it is acceptable to ignore our needs.  That's happening 
for one reason. We're not making our voices heard frequently and loudly 
enough!


- Original Message - 
From: "Kelly Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)


Darrell,

In his response, Tom Wlodkowski did not offer a workplan or timeframe on
how the access concern would be resolved.  He indicated that there was no
commitment from CBS Radio and other third parties to give AOL the ability
to modify the interface for accessibility.  Currently what we have are
promises from time Warner that can't actually be fulfilled.  has anyone
asked Tom for the time frame for resolution and ongoing updates?

Regarding alternate methods, consider accessing a CBS Radio stream and
capturing all the URL's that are generated with a program such as Replay
A/V or URL sniffer.  Plug each URL into Winamp and in nearly all the
stations I have tried, I eventually connected with the station.  Bookmark
the station and then access it in Winamp in the future.  I have listened to
WXRT in Chicago for about a year now with this method.  Other cool CBS
stations are likely similar.

Kelly




----- Original Message - 
From: "Darrell Shandrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)


> Yeah, really, even I believe a lawsuit or anything close over this
> situation
> would be jumping the gun.  I'd definitely like to know about alternative
> streaming options though.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 7:52 PM
> Subject: RE: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)
>
>
> I don't think so.  AOL seems to be acting in good faith but we'll have to
> wait and see.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of chris ramsay
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:32 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)
>
>sounds like time for another law suit. chris
> - Original Message -
> From: "Steve Pattison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Access-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "PC-Audio"
> 
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:28 PM
> Subject: Fwd: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)
>
>
>> From: Curtis Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> Greetings and felicitations:
>>
>> I have been asked to post the following message on behalf of Tom
>> Wlodkowski, Director of Accessibility for America Online (AOL).  Mr.
>> Wlodkowski does not bring good news, I am afraid; however, in his
>> favor, he is doing his best to provide us with advance notice and a
>> promise to work to make things better.
>> He and I have worked together for several years on accessibility
>> issues pertaining to America Online, and I believe him to be a man of
>> integrity and a person who is deeply committed to ensuring access to
>> AOL's services by all people with disabilities.
>>
>> Should you wish to contact Mr. Wlodkowski directly, his email address
>> is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> Here is Mr. Wlodkowski's message and the original post to which it
>> refers:
>>
>> Cordially,
>>
>> Curtis Chong
>>
>> ---
>>
>> The player Mr. Roderick references in his original GUI Talk post below
>> is one built by AOL. While there were some compatibility issues
>> between the AOL Radio player and JAWS due to the use of javascript, it
>> was generally usable.
>> Regrettably, this player will no l

Re: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)

2008-06-06 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Yeah, really, even I believe a lawsuit or anything close over this situation 
would be jumping the gun.  I'd definitely like to know about alternative 
streaming options though.

- Original Message - 
From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 7:52 PM
Subject: RE: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)


I don't think so.  AOL seems to be acting in good faith but we'll have to
wait and see.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of chris ramsay
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:32 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)

sounds like time for another law suit. chris
- Original Message -
From: "Steve Pattison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Access-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "PC-Audio" 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:28 PM
Subject: Fwd: Unfortunate News From America Online (AOL)


> From: Curtis Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Greetings and felicitations:
>
> I have been asked to post the following message on behalf of Tom
> Wlodkowski, Director of Accessibility for America Online (AOL).  Mr.
> Wlodkowski does not bring good news, I am afraid; however, in his
> favor, he is doing his best to provide us with advance notice and a
> promise to work to make things better.
> He and I have worked together for several years on accessibility
> issues pertaining to America Online, and I believe him to be a man of
> integrity and a person who is deeply committed to ensuring access to
> AOL's services by all people with disabilities.
>
> Should you wish to contact Mr. Wlodkowski directly, his email address
> is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Here is Mr. Wlodkowski's message and the original post to which it
> refers:
>
> Cordially,
>
> Curtis Chong
>
> ---
>
> The player Mr. Roderick references in his original GUI Talk post below
> is one built by AOL. While there were some compatibility issues
> between the AOL Radio player and JAWS due to the use of javascript, it
> was generally usable.
> Regrettably, this player will no longer be available as of June 9. In
> fact we will take some significant steps backward as we transition to
> the use of a third party player. We apologize for the inconvenience
> and plan to work with our partner to improve usability of our new
> player in subsequent releases.
>
> Beginning on June 9, the AOL Radio product will be powered by CBS Radio.
> The
> necessity of this new business model was driven by the dramatic
> increase in the music royalty rates paid for Internet Radio.  This
> action by the record labels left AOL no choice but to look for an
> alternative way to stay in the internet radio business. Given the
> business demands and accelerated transition, there wasn't ample time
> for us to effective address the major usability issues with the CBS
> Player. The AOL Radio team is aware of the accessibility barriers
> presented by this transition, and is committed to addressing the issue
> with CBS Radio once the new player interface launches on June 9.
>
> Please feel free to contact me with any questions or concerns. As you
> know through the recent release of the accessible webmail product, AOL
> Instant Messenger and other products, we're committed to ensuring the
> usability of our products and services with screen access software.
> There are times however where business needs put us in a situation
> where we regrettably cannot deliver an accessible interface when a
> product is first launched.
> This is the case with AOL Radio. We will certainly look to you, Mr.
> Roderick
> and others to test the accessibility of the new player interface once
> the team is a bit further down the path of implementing the necessary
> usability improvements.
>
> Best,
>
> Tom
>
> Forwarded message from Rick Roderick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Subject: [gui-talk] AOL radio
> To: NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I am trying the new version of AOL radio.  Unfortunately, some of the
> keys are not working.  I am using Internet Explorer and JAWS 9.
>
> When I get to the categories, it says that a particular category is
> off and to press open it.  When I press Enter, I simply hear the same
> message, and the category remains closed.
>
> I go into a selection of all stations, and not all the stations come up.
> I
> am able to choose a category from this area, however.  When I do so, I
> then select a station.  Everything works fine.  However, when I hit
> Alt-Left-Arrow to go back to the list, I can't get out of the current
> station.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Regards Steve
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2008-05-27 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hello Everyone,   

This announcement represents a friendly reminder for all of you to listen to an 
important, two hour live Main Menu coming right up later today.

Coming up on an exciting two hour live program, we hear from a panel of 
technology industry experts all about CAPTCHA (visual verification) and other 
forms of visual authentication, accessibility challenges to existing visual 
verification systems, the balance between human rights and security, existing 
solutions for providing reasonable accomodations to visual authentication and 
emerging accessibility solutions.

We are proud to introduce an impressive panel of experts and their primary 
areas of focus:

* Matt May from the Adobe Systems Accessibility Team will discuss his 2005 W3C 
note on the inaccessibility of CAPTCHA.
* Luis von Ahn from ReCAPTCHA at Carnegie Mellon University will describe their 
accessible solution.
* Steve Dispensa from PhoneFactor will tell us all about an innovative, 
telephone based two-factor authentication system.

The accessibility of CAPTCHA (visual verification schemes on the web) and other 
similar forms of visual authentication is a topic of utmost importance to the 
blind, visually impaired and others with print reading disabilities.  Real, 
universally accessible solutions are going to require significant amounts of 
effort, good will and out-of-the-box thinking.  We encourage active 
participation by the blind community, members on all sides of the issue from 
the mainstream technology industry and those sighted people who care about what 
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Here is how to participate in the show: 

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Re: Callburner Problems

2008-04-13 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hello James,

Which version of CallBurner are you running at the moment?  Have you sent a 
descriptive message regarding the issues to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Hello List!

Callburner always seems to be causing me problems when I am using Skype. 
Recently, I downloaded and installed a new version of Callburner and, almost 
immediately, it started working poorly.  Whenever I try to set the options 
or simply click on a choice, I get a big boom that tells me I violated some 
rule.  Now the program simply does not work.  I removed new version and 
reinstalled older version, as well as restored my system to the time prior 
to upgrading Callburner; this has not helped, as I still get the same info 
and problems.  I am using the current version of skype, I haven't upgraded 
skype lately.

If I cannot get Callburner to work properly, is there another program that 
is similar in function and pretty straightforward in using.  I just want to 
set the program to record whenever I make a call, save the recording, and 
get out of the way when I am not using it.  Callburner is beginning to 
bother me big-time.

James Robinson

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Re: MLB game day audio help needed

2008-03-30 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Mike,

Actually, that's Jeff Bishop who is working on some scripts for Window-Eyes, 
among others.

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Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 12:18 PM
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Darrell

Once installed, SilverLight should give you no hassles.
And, as you are beta writing scripts for the forthcoming WE7, whatever
issues remain (if any) probably can be addressed with that.




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Re: MLB game day audio help needed

2008-03-30 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Jeff and all,

I'm just wondering if anyone out here in the blind community had tried to 
contact MLB last year concerning access issues while the Silverlight stuff 
was under testing?  :-)  Or did everyone just hope for the best this time 
around?  :-(


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Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 11:40 PM
Subject: Re: MLB game day audio help needed


Hello Everyone,

I also apologize if this has been covered, but are the controls for the
player for game day audio more accessible this year?  Man, wouldn't it be
nice if one could get Applian to add this to Replay-AV.

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> Betsy, go to MLB.com and look for the register link.
>
> earlier, Betsy Sawyers, wrote:
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>Apologies if this has been recently covered, but can someone please tell
>>me
>>how to get signed up with MLB game day audio?  Can't figure out where to
>>get
>>started.
>>
>>Thank you.
>>
>>Betsy
>>
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Re: Slim Server 7.0

2008-03-23 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hey Kelly,

I have just forwarded your note to a colleague within the company for which 
I am employed.  He is a managing director of the Logitech technical support 
project, which includes Squeezebox.  Hopefully, I can get some answers from 
Logitech.

In the meantime, I would strongly urge you to open up a ticket with the 
company's technical support team (which actually goes to my employer) and 
escalate it as far as possible, not granting permission for its closure 
until the access issue is addressed to your satisfaction.  If any others out 
here have Logitech products with access issues, I would advise you all to do 
likewise.  I'm wondering if we can somehow utilize the technical support 
process of some companies to get at least some of what we need?



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To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 10:06 AM
Subject: Slim Server 7.0


Hello,

Apologies if this has been discussed here already but I didn't see it.
Folks here turned me on to the Squeeze Box more than a year ago and I've
been very pleased.

However, I just updated to the 7.0 version of the Slim Server Software for
streaming  to a Squeeze Box and initial impressions are that the server
software is less accessible than the 6.5 version.  You can switch back to
the classic interface which resolves most of the challenges.

The main reason I updated was because now the Pandora music service is
intigrated into the server software.  Earlier you had to connect to the
Squeeze Network.

The biggest issues I noticed in the 7.0 server software were numerous
instances of missing alt text, actionable UI elements no longer created as
standard HTML links and many more areas that require use of a mouse.  For
example to play an entry in the 7.0 server software, you now need to use
whatever mechanism your screen reader has for dealing with onmouseovers to
get a menu of things like play and add to play list to appear.

Just thought I'd share in case anyone else updates,

Kelly



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Re: making a podcast

2008-03-22 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Dave,

No.  It is not difficult, especially if you use a blog to drive your 
podcasting process.  Articles are created on your blog with enclosure links 
pointing to MP3 files hosted on your web site.

- Original Message - 
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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: making a podcast


Hi,
Thanks a lot for this information. THe mp3 conversion or posting is not
a problem. Rss however is something i don't know. Is this difficult?
Thanks.
Dave.

- Original Message - 
From: "Darrell Shandrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: making a podcast


> Gary and Dave,
>
> Converting the file is a very good idea, however, as the "standard" for
> podcasts specifies an MP3 enclosure delivered by way of an RSS feed.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 12:50 PM
> Subject: Re: making a podcast
>
>
> the Olympus DS-50 cost about $249.00. the DS-40 costs $199.00. all you
> need
> do is
> to convert the WMA file you record to an MP3 file if you want to. you
> don't
> need
> to however since people that will be listening to your podcast might use
> Windows
> Media Player.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 1:48 PM
> Subject: Re: making a podcast
>
>
>> Hi,
>>Thanks for your reply. How much do those digital recorders go for and
>> what's the difference between the two you referenced?
>>I am learning goldwave.
>> Thanks.
>> Dave.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 12:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: making a podcast
>>
>>
>>> Hi, making the pod cast is simple, depends on your skill and the quality
>>> you want to create. If your on the road, use a digital battery run
>>> recorder, the best I know of is an Olympis 40 or 50. You just press a
>>> button, speak and it is saved as a wma file. You must then download this
>>> to your com, send it out.
>>> But there are others out there that can ttell you of a less expensive
>>> way
>>> of doing this, but after all my personal research, I find that the
>>> Olympis 40 does the job for me. I only wished I could have bought the 50
>>> instead.
>>> If you know how to work with sound editors, then you can really have
>>> some
>>> fun. But just for simple recording and posting it on your own site, for
>>> your own use, keep it simple.
>>> MMM
>>>
>>> On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 11:49:11 -0400 "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Not sure if this is on topic, but i'm going to want to make a
>>>> recurring
>>>> podcast. I might be going away and i'm going to want to provide
>>>> those here
>>>> an account of my experiences. I'd like it in mp3 format and i'll
>>>> store it on
>>>> my web site, but i don't know what equipment i'll need. This is
>>>> definitely
>>>> on the budget plan.
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> Dave.
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: making a podcast

2008-03-22 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hello Albert,

The Victor Reader Stream is an excellent example of a player that is not 
currently able to handle the WMA format.  The Book Port is another device in 
this category.  Both devices are, however, quite capable of playing MP3.


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Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 12:57 PM
Subject: RE: making a podcast


Even if they don't use Windows Media Player, the program they do use will
probably play WMA files.

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Gary G Schindler
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 3:51 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: making a podcast

the Olympus DS-50 cost about $249.00. the DS-40 costs $199.00. all you need
do is to convert the WMA file you record to an MP3 file if you want to. you
don't need to however since people that will be listening to your podcast
might use Windows Media Player.

- Original Message -
From: "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: making a podcast


> Hi,
>Thanks for your reply. How much do those digital recorders go for and
> what's the difference between the two you referenced?
>I am learning goldwave.
> Thanks.
> Dave.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 12:54 PM
> Subject: Re: making a podcast
>
>
>> Hi, making the pod cast is simple, depends on your skill and the quality
>> you want to create. If your on the road, use a digital battery run
>> recorder, the best I know of is an Olympis 40 or 50. You just press a
>> button, speak and it is saved as a wma file. You must then download this
>> to your com, send it out.
>> But there are others out there that can ttell you of a less expensive way
>> of doing this, but after all my personal research, I find that the
>> Olympis 40 does the job for me. I only wished I could have bought the 50
>> instead.
>> If you know how to work with sound editors, then you can really have some
>> fun. But just for simple recording and posting it on your own site, for
>> your own use, keep it simple.
>> MMM
>>
>> On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 11:49:11 -0400 "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> Hi,
>>> Not sure if this is on topic, but i'm going to want to make a
>>> recurring
>>> podcast. I might be going away and i'm going to want to provide
>>> those here
>>> an account of my experiences. I'd like it in mp3 format and i'll
>>> store it on
>>> my web site, but i don't know what equipment i'll need. This is
>>> definitely
>>> on the budget plan.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Dave.
>>>
>>>
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Re: making a podcast

2008-03-22 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Gary and Dave,

Converting the file is a very good idea, however, as the "standard" for 
podcasts specifies an MP3 enclosure delivered by way of an RSS feed.

- Original Message - 
From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: making a podcast


the Olympus DS-50 cost about $249.00. the DS-40 costs $199.00. all you need 
do is
to convert the WMA file you record to an MP3 file if you want to. you don't 
need
to however since people that will be listening to your podcast might use 
Windows
Media Player.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: making a podcast


> Hi,
>Thanks for your reply. How much do those digital recorders go for and
> what's the difference between the two you referenced?
>I am learning goldwave.
> Thanks.
> Dave.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 12:54 PM
> Subject: Re: making a podcast
>
>
>> Hi, making the pod cast is simple, depends on your skill and the quality
>> you want to create. If your on the road, use a digital battery run
>> recorder, the best I know of is an Olympis 40 or 50. You just press a
>> button, speak and it is saved as a wma file. You must then download this
>> to your com, send it out.
>> But there are others out there that can ttell you of a less expensive way
>> of doing this, but after all my personal research, I find that the
>> Olympis 40 does the job for me. I only wished I could have bought the 50
>> instead.
>> If you know how to work with sound editors, then you can really have some
>> fun. But just for simple recording and posting it on your own site, for
>> your own use, keep it simple.
>> MMM
>>
>> On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 11:49:11 -0400 "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> Hi,
>>> Not sure if this is on topic, but i'm going to want to make a
>>> recurring
>>> podcast. I might be going away and i'm going to want to provide
>>> those here
>>> an account of my experiences. I'd like it in mp3 format and i'll
>>> store it on
>>> my web site, but i don't know what equipment i'll need. This is
>>> definitely
>>> on the budget plan.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Dave.
>>>
>>>
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Re: making a podcast

2008-03-22 Thread Darrell Shandrow
A good place to get this recorder is startstop.com.  I believe it is a 
little over $200 for the DS-50 nowadays.

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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: making a podcast


Hi,
Thanks for your reply. How much do those digital recorders go for and
what's the difference between the two you referenced?
I am learning goldwave.
Thanks.
Dave.

- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: making a podcast


> Hi, making the pod cast is simple, depends on your skill and the quality
> you want to create. If your on the road, use a digital battery run
> recorder, the best I know of is an Olympis 40 or 50. You just press a
> button, speak and it is saved as a wma file. You must then download this
> to your com, send it out.
> But there are others out there that can ttell you of a less expensive way
> of doing this, but after all my personal research, I find that the
> Olympis 40 does the job for me. I only wished I could have bought the 50
> instead.
> If you know how to work with sound editors, then you can really have some
> fun. But just for simple recording and posting it on your own site, for
> your own use, keep it simple.
> MMM
>
> On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 11:49:11 -0400 "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Hi,
>> Not sure if this is on topic, but i'm going to want to make a
>> recurring
>> podcast. I might be going away and i'm going to want to provide
>> those here
>> an account of my experiences. I'd like it in mp3 format and i'll
>> store it on
>> my web site, but i don't know what equipment i'll need. This is
>> definitely
>> on the budget plan.
>> Thanks.
>> Dave.
>>
>>
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Re: making a podcast

2008-03-22 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Dave,

I'm still a huge fan of the Olympus DS-50.  Listen to a couple of the most 
recent podcasts at http://www.blindaccessjournal.com and check out 
blindcooltech.com for a review.

- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 8:49 AM
Subject: making a podcast


Hi,
Not sure if this is on topic, but i'm going to want to make a recurring
podcast. I might be going away and i'm going to want to provide those here
an account of my experiences. I'd like it in mp3 format and i'll store it on
my web site, but i don't know what equipment i'll need. This is definitely
on the budget plan.
Thanks.
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Re: Victor Stream Inquiry

2008-03-20 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hello Paul,

Contact Sendero Group and see if it is still being offered for $289.

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Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 11:51 AM
Subject: Victor Stream Inquiry


Good afternoon,

I am looking for any data about this device and also where is the least
expensive place to purchase.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.  Thank you,
Have a great day,

Paul Bolduc

Amateur Radio Operator: WR1X
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Re: Tutorials

2008-03-10 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hello Dane,

The invitation remains open to run them on Main Menu as well.  :-)

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Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 4:47 AM
Subject: Tutorials


Hi Everyone!
It was suggested on this list a week or so ago that I do a tutorial on
Amadeus Pro? This is the new Audio Editor for the Mac which is
extremely accessible and which gives the "editor" a whole bunch of
tools and tricks into the very good "value-for-money" price of $40.00.
Well the tutorial is now under construction and (to make it more fun
and worthwhile) 2 of us are working on it so you'll be getting our
dialogue to guide you . This tutorial won't be a "long and
boring" book either, it will be split up into several sections, that
way we figured it will give whatever audience we have the chance to
ask questions, raise issues, leave feedback, tell us to go and get
stuffed or whatever .
I was going to upload this stuff to blind cool tech however the people
at that site don't appear to be able to pay "prompt attention" to
uploads sometimes, I've uploaded a series of podcasting segments and I
haven't even received acknowledgement that they've arrived, haven't
arrived or whether they're wanted or not as the case may be  so I've
decided to create my own "Podcast page, more details on this when I
finish constructing it. This way, interested folks can subscribe thus
get whatever my latest offering is when it becomes available.
More tutorials I know are on the way, not just from me but from other
individuals (I'm particularly thinking of tutorials aimed at the Mac
here) and these include subjects as diverse as Garage Band, I'll
publish the links to these if and when they become available.
Cheers

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Re: ReplayAV discovered, cap's are WMA's

2008-02-17 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi John,

Hmm.  That's odd.  I've successfully renamed them to .mp3.  Obviously, it 
can't be interchangeable.

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Hello,

I think I discovered that file.cap can simply be renamed file.wma, and then
it plays in something like WinAmp or Windows Media player.

If consistently true, this is nice to know.

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Re: Trouble with CallBurner properly recording both sides of conversationin Skype Version 3.6 and No Tones or inoperative selectionfeature when making calls while calls are being recorded withCallBurn

2007-12-03 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hello James,

I haven't really noticed these issues since Skype 3.6, but it is possible I 
may have missed something, or there are specific circumstances causing it to 
happen.  Have you gotten a response from Netralia yet?

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Subject: Trouble with CallBurner properly recording both sides of 
conversationin Skype Version 3.6 and No Tones or inoperative 
selectionfeature when making calls while calls are being recorded 
withCallBurner Ca


Hello CallBurner Support!
Below are two problems I am experiencing with CallBurner since I upgraded to 
Skype Version 3.6.

(1)  I have been using CallBurner for months and, up until upgrading to 
Skype Version 3.6 from Version 3.5, things went well; however, now that I 
have Skype Version 3.6, during a call, the recording is half done.  The 
CallBurner Program records both voices, but only my voice (from my system) 
is intelligible and the second party's voice is low and recorded at a very 
slow rate (speed).  The recording sounds like a record, with a secondary 
sound behind it.  I use to hear all clear voices at the same quality.  Could 
you tell me what to do to get this feature working again.  I want a clear 
and high quality recording of both aspects of the conversation.

(2)  Also, If I make call with Callburner loaded and activated, I cannot get 
any tone activity on a certain call and the numbers do not activate or do 
what the choice asks for; however, once CallBurner is turned off, all phone 
tones are available and work.  I generally have to redo the settings, but 
they only work for one session and then go back to acting strangely.  If I 
don't load callburner, then there is no problem with tones or activation of 
numbers or selections.

Several or many visually impaired users have spoken of the same problem as 
stated above.  CallBurner is a good program and we enjoy using it.  I hope 
you can assist me in clearing up the problems outlined above.  This, as I 
mentioned above, only seems to be a problem with Skype Version 3.6.

thanks for your quick response to this question,

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Re: Slingbox & DirecTV info

2007-11-29 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Paul,

Yes.  I am very concerned about that.  I'd like to see that in writing for 
sure.  Disturbing, to say the least.

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Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 3:55 PM
Subject: RE: Slingbox & DirecTV info


Hi. Wonder why they told you had no business helping them test. Dish already
has this and it is totally inaccessible. It makes it look like your remote
on the computer screen.


Paul Henrichsen
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Subject: Slingbox & DirecTV info

Hi
The Slingbox hardware and SlingPlayer software can be used by a
blind person with JAWS by using the keyboard shortcuts. The
SlingPlayer software version I use here is 1.4+.

Shortcuts like ctrl+m to toggle the audio, alt+P for the Player
menu.

DirecTV satellite provider is working on a service which is
called "remote bookings" which will allow you to control your
DVR (Digital Video Recorder) satellite box from your computer.
This is in testing phase. I asked DirecTV if I could participate
in the testing and was told I had no business in this. I told
them to use proper HTML code when designing this new remote
bookings service which should be available sometime next year.

You cannot control your DVR box's functions completely nor
configure your DVR box menu's using the SlingPlayer software.

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Re: Slingbox & DirecTV info

2007-11-29 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hello Petro,

Huh?  They said you have "no business" in this upon asking to be part of a 
beta program?  True, they aren't particularly required to necessarily admit 
you, but that kind of response seems rather inappropriate as well.  If you 
received such a response in writing, would you share it with me off list? 
Of course, I am primarily concerned as an accessibility advocate...


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To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 11:45 AM
Subject: Slingbox & DirecTV info


Hi
The Slingbox hardware and SlingPlayer software can be used by a
blind person with JAWS by using the keyboard shortcuts. The
SlingPlayer software version I use here is 1.4+.

Shortcuts like ctrl+m to toggle the audio, alt+P for the Player
menu.

DirecTV satellite provider is working on a service which is
called "remote bookings" which will allow you to control your
DVR (Digital Video Recorder) satellite box from your computer.
This is in testing phase. I asked DirecTV if I could participate
in the testing and was told I had no business in this. I told
them to use proper HTML code when designing this new remote
bookings service which should be available sometime next year.

You cannot control your DVR box's functions completely nor
configure your DVR box menu's using the SlingPlayer software.

Petro


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Re: Macbooks, they sound very nice

2007-11-08 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Dane,

Are those menus popping up in Fusion accessible?  If so, does VoiceOver or 
Window-Eyes read that info?

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Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 5:09 PM
Subject: Macbooks, they sound very nice


Hi all!
Just got my new Macbook yesterday and I have to say that I'm
pleasantly surprised at how good they sound. I haven't determined
exactly where the speakers are in the computer itself yet .
I was actually warned against getting the new Macbook, I was told
that the speakers were incredibly quiet and lacked bass, if the first
point was true then this would have ben an issue for me as I have a
hearing impairment and I may have had to consider using external
speakers. I'm glad to say however that these things boast plenty of
volume and plenty of dynamic range so bass or the top end isn't a
problem, more than acceptable in my view for a notebook device.
Now here's the really interesting bit as far as audio goes, like my
Imac the Macbook has both analog and digital in and out for sound,
I've played a DVD on this model and connected it directly to my
surround-sound receiver which I reviewed here about 2 years ago,
results were spectacular with all the surround-sound functionality
working as it should. You can of course, connnect something like an
Imic for added audio flexability, I will be doing this so that I can
have one device dedicated to record/playback and the other completely
devoted to speekc, system sounds, playing audio "on-the-fly" and so
forth, the excellent recording software Audio Hijack Pro and the
excellent audio editing software Sound Studio will of course be an
absolute must for this notebook too.
FInally, I'm using Fusion to run a WIndows XP virtual machine with
Window-eyes and no problem with audio either though you have to tell
Fusion when you've plugged in the Imic if you want to use it with
Windows XP and associated software such as Winamp or Total Recorder,
this is done through a menu which pops up in fusion, these menus pop
up for all connected devices to your Macbook and give you choices on
how you want Fusion and Windows XP to connect to them, I think
there's an "auto-detect" mode somewhere in there too.
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Re: A word of encouragement.

2007-10-25 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Jim,

I have been a Sound Forge user for years now, but I have just bought 
GoldWave and will begin switching over to it because Chris listens, while 
Sony Media Software seems to be going in the wrong direction with each new 
release.

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Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: A word of encouragement.


darrell:

Actually, I guess you could say that both are true.

I would like the Blind community to dialog with Chris concerning
accessibility issues.  On the otherhand, chris has shown a keen interest in
working with us.

Cheers.



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Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: A word of encouragement.


> Hello Jim,
>
> Is this just a request on your own initiative to provide Chris with
> accessibility related feedback, or has he actually taken an active
> interest
> in listening to us.  I'd like to blog this, but would appreciate it if you
> could provide a bit more of the back story since I am not a GoldWave
> owner.
>
> Thanks.
>
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> to make their CAPTCHA accessible!
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> another person.
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> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 8:42 AM
> Subject: A word of encouragement.
>
>
> Hello Folks:
>
> I just want to encourage GoldWave users to contact Chris, (the creator of
> the GoldWave audio editing software) and express your likes, dislikes,
> concerns, improvement suggestions ETC.  It's not often that one can have
> direct access to a world class program creator who will listen, I mean,
> really listen.
>
> To contact Chris, go to:
> www.goldwave.com/contact.php
>
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Re: Which Skype Recorder?

2007-10-17 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Steve,

As far as I am concerned, the only Skype call recorder worth consideration 
is CallBurner at http://callburner.com.  Netralia has made specific 
accomodations for us.

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Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 7:21 AM
Subject: Which Skype Recorder?


I have to admit, I'm a bit of an ostrich when it comes to certain
things--if I don't need 'em, I tend to ignore 'em--until one day, the
sun penetrates, my head pops up out of the technological quagmire in
which it's been buried of late, and I discover there's actually some
new tool out there that will do what I need done at the moment, and
it's been around for aeons, and I just never took notice of it!

Such is the case with Skype Recorder. However, there appear to be more
than one such tool with the same name from different
vendors/purveyors/authors. Just Google "skype recorder" and see what
you get--a veritable cornucopia of responses, some free, some not,
some even going under some kind of daily software giveaway program,
probably long expired!

So, my question comes down to this:  Which one(s) have you used and
with what degree of success and pleasure?  Or, which one(s) have you
used and to what degree of dislike or out-and-out dismay, and, of
course, why to all of the above?

Thanks for helping clear the fog on this one.



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Re: Recording a meeting including Skype

2007-10-13 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Peter,

If all the microphones are going into the computer that's running Skype and 
there's always at least one Skype participant, why not get CallBurner at 
http://callburner.com and record the Skype call?

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Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 4:18 AM
Subject: Recording a meeting including Skype


We are trying to figure out how to record a meeting which includes people 
who are attending via Skype. We have 4 microphones in the room feeding into 
a mixer

Actually a Tascam 4 track cassette recorder, but the recording part no 
longer works so we are using it as a mixer to feed to a Edirol digital 
recorder.

We have a computer with Skype and Jaws or Window Eyes running and bringing 
the sound into the room via the computer speakers.

If we feed the sound from the room via the mixer into the line-in they 
Skypers will get their own sound coming back at them, and if we have the 
room speakers turned up too loud we get feedback.

Has anyone done this sort of thing, with success.

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Re: Pamela recorder for skype

2007-10-10 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Mark,

No.  Pamela Systems is a third party vendor whose software happens to be 
designed using Skype's API.

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Subject: Re: Pamela recorder for skype


Does this company work with skype?  can you tell me some more about them?
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Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: Pamela recorder for skype


> Hi Mark,
>
> Sorry to see that you went for Pamela, as that company completely ignores
> its customers' requests for technical support, including requests for help
> on accessibility issues.  If at all possible, try and get your money back
> and visit http://callburner.com for a solution from a company that cares.
>
> Please visit http://BlindWebAccess.com and sign the petition asking Yahoo!
> to make their CAPTCHA accessible!
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> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 1:13 PM
> Subject: Pamela recorder for skype
>
>
> Apologies if this is the wrong list for this enquiry but I am at a loss.
> I
> purchased pamela call recorder for skype and it seems to have gone through
> fine.  I have receipts and all that stuff, but I cannot find the recorder
> on
> my computer anywhere.  any ideas will be welcome.
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Re: Pamela recorder for skype

2007-10-09 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Mark,

Sorry to see that you went for Pamela, as that company completely ignores 
its customers' requests for technical support, including requests for help 
on accessibility issues.  If at all possible, try and get your money back 
and visit http://callburner.com for a solution from a company that cares.

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Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 1:13 PM
Subject: Pamela recorder for skype


Apologies if this is the wrong list for this enquiry but I am at a loss.  I 
purchased pamela call recorder for skype and it seems to have gone through 
fine.  I have receipts and all that stuff, but I cannot find the recorder on 
my computer anywhere.  any ideas will be welcome.
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Re: New flash recorders from Sony and Marantz

2007-10-03 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hello Dane,

It sure is if you can't remember that last position.  I'd also venture to 
say that even the most adept users of electronics won't be able to do this 
for all the gadgets in their possession.  Wrapping menus are a real killer 
for us blind folks.  :(


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Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 2:50 AM
Subject: Re: New flash recorders from Sony and Marantz


Ah... is that a major question? I mean if you exit a menu and go into
it again and if the menu starts from the same point all the time then
"wrapping" isn't such an issue.

On 03/10/2007, at 1:59 PM, Judy W wrote:

>
> Major question concerning both units is do the menus wrap?
>
> Judy
>
>
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> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 10:55 PM
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> Subject: Re: New flash recorders from Sony and Marantz
>
>
> I looked at both the Sony and  Marantz digital recorders and feel
> that the
> Marantz, in my opinion would be the better choice. The display
> window on the
> Sony has a lot of information packed into it while the display
> window on the
> Marantz has easy to read information for those of us with
> functional vision.
> The button configuration appears to be well laid out with a ring
> similar to
> the Ipod with volume up, volume down and enter in the middle. The
> Marantz
> sells for about 300 dollars American, while the Sony comes in at a
> wapping
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Re: A word of encouragement.

2007-09-29 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hello Jim,

Is this just a request on your own initiative to provide Chris with 
accessibility related feedback, or has he actually taken an active interest 
in listening to us.  I'd like to blog this, but would appreciate it if you 
could provide a bit more of the back story since I am not a GoldWave owner.

Thanks.

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Hello Folks:

I just want to encourage GoldWave users to contact Chris, (the creator of 
the GoldWave audio editing software) and express your likes, dislikes, 
concerns, improvement suggestions ETC.  It's not often that one can have 
direct access to a world class program creator who will listen, I mean, 
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Re: Skype Recorder

2007-09-27 Thread Darrell Shandrow
I'm very, very happy with CallBurner:
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Is anyone using skype recorder? It seems to work fairly well in terms of
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Re: Callburner VS Skylook (the difference)

2007-09-21 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hello James,

CallBurner is a completely stand-alone application for recording Skype 
calls, while Skylook is a Skype call recorder that depends on the use of 
Microsoft Outlook.  If you don't want your Skype call recording integrated 
with Outlook, then CallBurner's your ticket.  If you already have Skylook 
and are happy, then you're just fine leaving things alone.

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Hello Lists:

I have Skype (the latest) and Call Burner on my system; I also have 
Microsoft Outlook, which uses Skylook to record phone calls and other 
things; and I want to know, do I need Skylook if I have call burner?  Could 
someone give me the low-down on both programs.  I would like to know which 
one to install on my notebooks.

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Re: Good digital recorder for recording confreences and lectures

2007-09-15 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Chris,

I'd recommend the DS-50, which has talking menus and records 1 GB in 
internal memory.  It does not use external cards.

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Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 12:31 AM
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which model of olympus do you reccommend and how much information can it
record does it record on a digital card? chris
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Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 2:39 AM
Subject: Re: Good digital recorder for recording confreences and lectures


> Like i said if I am in a close situation i wil use the olympus, but it is
> always a good idea ot have an extra device in case one
> dies.
>
> SA&G
>
> : Hi:
> :
> : Can you please tell me why you use two digital recorders?
> :
> : Wayne
> : - Original Message -
> : From: "Sarah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> : To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> : Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 12:25 AM
> : Subject: Re: Good digital recorder for recording confreences and
> : lectures
> :
> :
> :
> :
> : Yep I carry my olympus ws320m and my  edirol r9. I do use both but
> : not at once though. *g*
> :
> :
> : SA&G
> :: Hi Kelly,
> ::
> :: Agreed, but there are many times where a recorder needs to be less
> :: conspicuous than all that.  :)
> ::
> :: Please visit http://BlindWebAccess.com and sign the petition asking
> :: Yahoo! to make their CAPTCHA accessible!
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> :: telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i - Original
> :: Message -
> :: From: "Kelly Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> :: To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> :: Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:50 PM
> :: Subject: Re: Good digital recorder for recording confreences and
> :: lectures
> ::
> ::
> :: The best quality from any recorder will happen with an external
> :: microphone placed six to nine inches from the speaker's mouth.  I
> :: know that this requires toting around at least 25 feet of thick
> :: microphone cord and a tripod microphone stand, which is inconvenient
> :: and a hassle.  yet the great result will speak for themselves many
> :: years into the future.
> ::
> :: Kelly
> :: - Original Message -
> :: From: "Dean Martineau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> :: To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> :: Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 6:54 PM
> :: Subject: Good digital recorder for recording confreences and lectures
> ::
> ::
> ::> Hello.  I have listened to many of the podcasts about digital
> ::> recorders. I
> ::> would like a small one for recording conferences and lectures.  I
> ::> would love
> ::> the ease of use of the Olympus Ds-50, and don't need more space than
> ::> it is
> ::> limited to, but want to get the best quality I can.  My frames of
> ::> reference
> ::> are cassette-recorder built-in mics and the build-in mic on the
> ::> PtR2, which
> ::> is terrible.
> ::>
> ::> If I were to spend under US $300,
> ::>
> ::> 1.  Does the Ds-50 do a good job in conference situations, better
> ::> than the
> ::> two benchmarks I've mentioned?
> ::>
> ::> 2.  How does your recorder, whichever you use, do in lecture or
> ::> conference
> ::> situations?
> ::>
> ::> I appreciate nay input.
> ::>
> ::> Thanks.
> ::> Dean
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Re: Good digital recorder for recording confreences and lectures

2007-09-15 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Albert,

I actually have three recorders: iRiver IFP 899, Olympus DS-50 and Edirol 
R-1.  I very rarely use the iRiver these days.  Each of these recorders has 
characteristics that are different enough to make them most useful in 
different scenarios.

If one were going to be able to get only one of these, I'd have to vote for 
the Olympus DS-50 due to its overall accessibility.

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Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 1:12 AM
Subject: RE: Good digital recorder for recording confreences and lectures


Well,, it's always good to be repaired.  Have you thought about carrying
three recorders in case both break down, LOL.  take care.

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Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 1:39 AM
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Subject: Re: Good digital recorder for recording confreences and lectures

Like i said if I am in a close situation i wil use the olympus, but it is
always a good idea ot have an extra device in case one dies.

SA&G

: Hi:
:
: Can you please tell me why you use two digital recorders?
:
: Wayne
: - Original Message -
: From: "Sarah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
: Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 12:25 AM
: Subject: Re: Good digital recorder for recording confreences and
: lectures
:
:
:
:
: Yep I carry my olympus ws320m and my  edirol r9. I do use both but
: not at once though. *g*
:
:
: SA&G
:: Hi Kelly,
::
:: Agreed, but there are many times where a recorder needs to be less
:: conspicuous than all that.  :)
::
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:: Message -
:: From: "Kelly Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
:: To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
:: Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:50 PM
:: Subject: Re: Good digital recorder for recording confreences and
:: lectures
::
::
:: The best quality from any recorder will happen with an external
:: microphone placed six to nine inches from the speaker's mouth.  I
:: know that this requires toting around at least 25 feet of thick
:: microphone cord and a tripod microphone stand, which is inconvenient
:: and a hassle.  yet the great result will speak for themselves many
:: years into the future.
::
:: Kelly
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:: From: "Dean Martineau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
:: To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
:: Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 6:54 PM
:: Subject: Good digital recorder for recording confreences and lectures
::
::
::> Hello.  I have listened to many of the podcasts about digital ::>
recorders. I ::> would like a small one for recording conferences and
lectures.  I ::> would love ::> the ease of use of the Olympus Ds-50, and
don't need more space than ::> it is ::> limited to, but want to get the
best quality I can.  My frames of ::> reference ::> are cassette-recorder
built-in mics and the build-in mic on the ::> PtR2, which ::> is terrible.
::>
::> If I were to spend under US $300,
::>
::> 1.  Does the Ds-50 do a good job in conference situations, better ::>
than the ::> two benchmarks I've mentioned?
::>
::> 2.  How does your recorder, whichever you use, do in lecture or ::>
conference ::> situations?
::>
::> I appreciate nay input.
::>
::> Thanks.
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Re: Good digital recorder for recording confreences and lectures

2007-09-13 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Kelly,

Agreed, but there are many times where a recorder needs to be less 
conspicuous than all that.  :)

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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: Good digital recorder for recording confreences and lectures


The best quality from any recorder will happen with an external microphone
placed six to nine inches from the speaker's mouth.  I know that this
requires toting around at least 25 feet of thick microphone cord and a
tripod microphone stand, which is inconvenient and a hassle.  yet the great
result will speak for themselves many years into the future.

Kelly
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From: "Dean Martineau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 6:54 PM
Subject: Good digital recorder for recording confreences and lectures


> Hello.  I have listened to many of the podcasts about digital recorders.
> I
> would like a small one for recording conferences and lectures.  I would
> love
> the ease of use of the Olympus Ds-50, and don't need more space than it
> is
> limited to, but want to get the best quality I can.  My frames of
> reference
> are cassette-recorder built-in mics and the build-in mic on the PtR2,
> which
> is terrible.
>
> If I were to spend under US $300,
>
> 1.  Does the Ds-50 do a good job in conference situations, better than
> the
> two benchmarks I've mentioned?
>
> 2.  How does your recorder, whichever you use, do in lecture or
> conference
> situations?
>
> I appreciate nay input.
>
> Thanks.
> Dean
>
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Re: Good digital recorder for recording confreences and lectures

2007-09-13 Thread Darrell Shandrow
It shows up as an external drive.

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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: Good digital recorder for recording confreences and lectures


Hi Darryl,

Good point.  One can drag the file on to the pc and edit it that way of
course.

Does the DS50 connect to the PC and show up as an external drive or, is
there unique software that needs to be used?

Cheers...Keith

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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 6:13 PM
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Keith,

The Olympus DS-50 also does not enable editing on the unit.

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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: Good digital recorder for recording confreences and lectures


Hi,

I can't compare my unit against your test units as I have never tried them
out.

I use the milestone 311 which has good recording quality but no editing
properties.

hth...KG

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To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:54 PM
Subject: Good digital recorder for recording confreences and lectures


Hello.  I have listened to many of the podcasts about digital recorders.  I
would like a small one for recording conferences and lectures.  I would love
the ease of use of the Olympus Ds-50, and don't need more space than it is
limited to, but want to get the best quality I can.  My frames of reference
are cassette-recorder built-in mics and the build-in mic on the PtR2, which
is terrible.

If I were to spend under US $300,

1.  Does the Ds-50 do a good job in conference situations, better than the
two benchmarks I've mentioned?

2.  How does your recorder, whichever you use, do in lecture or conference
situations?

I appreciate nay input.

Thanks.
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Re: Good digital recorder for recording confreences and lectures

2007-09-13 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Keith,

The Olympus DS-50 also does not enable editing on the unit.

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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: Good digital recorder for recording confreences and lectures


Hi,

I can't compare my unit against your test units as I have never tried them
out.

I use the milestone 311 which has good recording quality but no editing
properties.

hth...KG

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From: "Dean Martineau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:54 PM
Subject: Good digital recorder for recording confreences and lectures


Hello.  I have listened to many of the podcasts about digital recorders.  I
would like a small one for recording conferences and lectures.  I would love
the ease of use of the Olympus Ds-50, and don't need more space than it is
limited to, but want to get the best quality I can.  My frames of reference
are cassette-recorder built-in mics and the build-in mic on the PtR2, which
is terrible.

If I were to spend under US $300,

1.  Does the Ds-50 do a good job in conference situations, better than the
two benchmarks I've mentioned?

2.  How does your recorder, whichever you use, do in lecture or conference
situations?

I appreciate nay input.

Thanks.
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Re: Good digital recorder for recording confreences and lectures

2007-09-13 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hello Dean,

I have used my DS-50 in a number of situations, including the Mormon 
Tabernacle Building back in August, and in all cases I feel it did a good 
job.  Check out the August 2007 section of the Blind Access Journal for a 
podcast.

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From: "Dean Martineau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 4:54 PM
Subject: Good digital recorder for recording confreences and lectures


Hello.  I have listened to many of the podcasts about digital recorders.  I
would like a small one for recording conferences and lectures.  I would love
the ease of use of the Olympus Ds-50, and don't need more space than it is
limited to, but want to get the best quality I can.  My frames of reference
are cassette-recorder built-in mics and the build-in mic on the PtR2, which
is terrible.

If I were to spend under US $300,

1.  Does the Ds-50 do a good job in conference situations, better than the
two benchmarks I've mentioned?

2.  How does your recorder, whichever you use, do in lecture or conference
situations?

I appreciate nay input.

Thanks.
Dean



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Re: Skype

2007-09-09 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Terri,

See the following link:

http://dlee.org/skype

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Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 3:30 PM
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I need to find out if there are scripts for version 3.5 of Skype.  I've got
a friend who can't find a download link for the scripts with this version.
Thanks.

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Re: TV tuner cards:

2007-09-08 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hello Christopher,

Does this one work with digital cable?

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Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: TV tuner cards:


I got a USB TV tuner dongle from KWorld. I got it because it was
ridiculously cheap at Frye's, so even if it wasn't accessible, I
wouldn't have been out much. As it turns out, the software it comes with
is so simple it works just fine with JAWS, and I'd assume it would also
work just fine with Window Eyes. There is an initial screen where you
have to click on the right icon to get the TV tuner software to load,
but it isn't too hard to figure out. The only downside I've run into so
far, is that I can't adjust the volume of the TV without also adjusting
the volume of JFW. The dongle doesn't have a model number on it that I
can find, otherwise I'd include it.

Jim Ruby wrote:
> Is there any usb devices I could use with my lap top or would usb and this
> type of communication be a bit slow?
>
>
>
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>
> Hi, Yes, it must.  I was able to record programs I was watching and then
> able to read the titles of what had been taped so that I could click on
> which ever one I wanted to watch.
>
> What I haven't yet figured out how to do, is set up to tape a program.  I
> know it does that, but I don't know how.
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Re: TV tuner cards:

2007-09-03 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hello Vicky,

If the coax cable goes directly into the TV tuner card, then where does the 
cable box come into play?

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Subject: Re: TV tuner cards:


Hi, Yes, it works with my Comcast cable box.  There was a cord that came
with the Adapt Tech that ended with a special end that went on the front of
the cable box.  That is how my keyboard commands were able to affect the
cable box.

You'll want to have your coaxial cable going in to your computer, so you
will have maximum control of your TV commands.

Good luck and let me know if I can be of any more help.

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Re: TV tuner cards:

2007-09-03 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Vicky,

Does it work with digital cable?  If so, which service do you have?

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Subject: Re: TV tuner cards:


Hi, This is Vicky.  I have an Adapt Tech and it works well with my Windows
XP Media Center laptop.

I hope you find one that works well for you.

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Re: verification messages on sites

2007-08-31 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Ah, hey, cool, I sure know what you mean with respect to covering the costs 
and, well, there's definitely insufficient participation on the part of 
blind people too.  I think the blind community isn't rising up to its 
potential at all with respect to advocacy.

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Subject: Re: verification messages on sites


Well it's a bit to late to get a com domain but I'll see what I can do. 
Maybe my podcast can cover this .

SA&G

: Hey Sarah!
:
: Great!  I've just signed it and posted it to Blind Access Journal.
: Consider getting a good .com domain name and, if at all possible, go
: on over to prweb.com and post a press release.  Of course, we both
: need to find ways to do much more to promote our respective CAPTCHA
: petitions, but I feel these two steps are critical starting points.
:
:
: Please visit http://BlindWebAccess.com and sign the petition asking
: Yahoo! to make their CAPTCHA accessible!
: Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
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: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 9:36 AM
: Subject: Re: verification messages on sites
:
:
: I have a petition going for myspace for the captcha thing. it is
: getting good signatures so far. Look for it on my site at
: www.marrie.org.
:
: SA&G
:
:: Darrell and Mark,
::
:: The synchronous part of this is that I just ran into the same
:: problem, with My Space that you did (Mark), but, I could not,
:: apparently, find a reasonable way to contact them, in their contact
:: link!  I surfed around the website many times, without finding a way
:: to contact them by phone, or by E mail!  One would think, that since
:: they are now under the Google umbrella (I think?), that they would
:: have run into inquiries, before now!  Any ideas, on how to contact
:: them?
::
:: Thanks,
::
:: -Mac-
:: - Original Message -
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:: To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
:: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:26 AM
:: Subject: Re: verification messages on sites
::
::
:: Hello Mark,
::
:: We advocate, advocate and advocate some more!  Contact them and ask
:: for an accessible alternative, such as audio CAPTCHA or text based
:: challenge, that reasonably accomodates blind and visually impaired
:: users.  Please also sign the Yahoo! petition indicated below.
::
:: Thanks.
::
:: Please visit http://BlindWebAccess.com and sign the petition asking
:: Yahoo! to make their CAPTCHA accessible!
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Re: verification messages on sites

2007-08-31 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hey Sarah!

Great!  I've just signed it and posted it to Blind Access Journal.  Consider 
getting a good .com domain name and, if at all possible, go on over to 
prweb.com and post a press release.  Of course, we both need to find ways to 
do much more to promote our respective CAPTCHA petitions, but I feel these 
two steps are critical starting points.


Please visit http://BlindWebAccess.com and sign the petition asking Yahoo! 
to make their CAPTCHA accessible!
Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
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- Original Message - 
From: "Sarah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: verification messages on sites


I have a petition going for myspace for the captcha thing. it is getting 
good signatures so far. Look for it on my site at
www.marrie.org.

SA&G

: Darrell and Mark,
:
: The synchronous part of this is that I just ran into the same
: problem, with My Space that you did (Mark), but, I could not,
: apparently, find a reasonable way to contact them, in their contact
: link!  I surfed around the website many times, without finding a way
: to contact them by phone, or by E mail!  One would think, that since
: they are now under the Google umbrella (I think?), that they would
: have run into inquiries, before now!  Any ideas, on how to contact
: them?
:
: Thanks,
:
: -Mac-
: ----- Original Message -
: From: "Darrell Shandrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:26 AM
: Subject: Re: verification messages on sites
:
:
: Hello Mark,
:
: We advocate, advocate and advocate some more!  Contact them and ask
: for an accessible alternative, such as audio CAPTCHA or text based
: challenge, that reasonably accomodates blind and visually impaired
: users.  Please also sign the Yahoo! petition indicated below.
:
: Thanks.
:
: Please visit http://BlindWebAccess.com and sign the petition asking
: Yahoo! to make their CAPTCHA accessible!
: Darrell Shandrow - Accessibility Evangelist
: Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by
: another person.
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: Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:19 AM
: Subject: verification messages on sites
:
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Re: verification messages on sites

2007-08-31 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hello Mark,

We advocate, advocate and advocate some more!  Contact them and ask for an 
accessible alternative, such as audio CAPTCHA or text based challenge, that 
reasonably accomodates blind and visually impaired users.  Please also sign 
the Yahoo! petition indicated below.

Thanks.

Please visit http://BlindWebAccess.com and sign the petition asking Yahoo! 
to make their CAPTCHA accessible!
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To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 8:19 AM
Subject: verification messages on sites


I have just tried to register with youtube and myspace and come up against 
their verification process of retyping  letters from a box.  If we cannot 
see these letters what do we do?

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Re: [blindreplay] Freecorder 2 & Freecorder Toolbar Scripts Wanted

2007-08-23 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Kelly,

Though you do make some excellent points with respect to this Freecorder 
toolbar and the YouSendIt plugin for Replay A/V, I also feel this level of 
frustration may be jumping the gun just a bit.  Bet you all are surprised to 
hear that coming from me?  :)


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Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [blindreplay] Freecorder 2 & Freecorder Toolbar Scripts Wanted


Petro,

You seem to be highly comfortable with the response that Applian uses
third-party contractors for various components of its software business and
therefore has no responsibility to its customers for the performance of
these components, which in our case is the accessibility of Applian
software.  In the past decade and a half, the blind community and
disability community as a whole have totally and completely rejected this
buck passing.  First the major software companies, including Microsoft,
Real Networks, and Adobe have been expected from the get go to provide full
access to their software, regardless of how it was developed.

next, folks engaged the country's largest financial institutions to create
access to banking services.  The banks worked with vendors, contractors and
service providers to deliver talking ATM's for the blind and accessible
websites.  These efforts led to the first legally binding settlement
agreements that committed to web accessibility for people with
disabilities.


The bank projects were followed by initiatives on cell phone accessibility.
the issue was that the wireless service providers passed the buck to the
handset manufacturers.  yet, the manufacturing companies said that they
designed phones with significant input from the providers who would largely
market and sell the phones.  The arrangement was hardly that of an
impartial, arms-length party just purchasing goods in the marketplace,
passing the hot potato of access back to the wireless providers.

The efforts led to a 2004 agreement by Audio and Verizon Communications to
design, manufacture, market and sell a cell phone accessible to the blind
with audio-enabled controls.

similarly, people with disabilities expected accessibility of voting
machines in the United States during the last election cycle during the
2006 elections.  Software and control devices for some machines were
developed or designed at some of the voting machine companies by foreign
subsidiaries or third party vendors.  Local election officials facilitated
relationships with the various parties to obtain and significantly improve
access, allowing voters with certain kinds of disabilities to vote
independently for the first time.

I realize that the large companies often have complex and many-layered
relationships with their vendors and contractors.  A vendor may develop or
provide access to a product or service to prevent the institution from
developing a relationship with another vendor who can provide access and
possibly a whole lot more.  The large companies can leverage these
relationships to obtain consideration from vendors that smaller companies
can't.

all of this being said, it is highly disappointing that we seem to accept
wholesale Applian's response regarding access issues with their products.
They don't explain why access issues could not have been written into the
contracts or agreements they have with their vendors.  It is not clear if
the company raised these issues in a meaningful manner early on in the
relationship with the third party vendor or if it was an afterthought once
the work was completed.

In various areas of technology access for more than a decade, people with
disabilities have worked with companies to achieve greater independence in
their lives through technology.  the third-party contractor argument has
not been accepted by disability leaders who have worked on access in
various sectors in the technology industry.  In a similar way it has also
been rejected by the mainstream as well.  Wednesday's Wall Street Journal
ran a lengthy page one investigation of how the largest retailers and
apparel makers in the United States are responsible for incredible
pollution in China for demanding ever lower prices, leading contractors to
pollute the environment to save money.  there was no suggestion that gap,
Target, Nike, and the like had no responsibility because they used a third
party vendor.

Applian's shoulder shrugging and subsequent

Re: Walmart Music Downloads

2007-08-22 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Jim and all,

Did you actually get a clear MP3 out of the deal?  I've considered 
purchasing some music there, but it is a bit confusing just what one would 
get.

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Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: Walmart Music Downloads


This album/CD has 51 tracks, hence the higher price.
I did get it to work by finally realizing that there was a message regarding
installing an Active X control.
Then, it was incredibly intuitive and easy.
Long live Walmart!


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Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: Walmart Music Downloads


Don't want to get too political here, but, isn't Wal Mart the company that
we all love to hate, because they support China, so much-- because they
don't pay a living wage-- because they are the  epitome of a Corporate
Conglomerate?  That would be the ultimate set of questions.  I heard some
commentary, this morning on the radio, though, that the albums were selling
for $ 9.94, not $18.94!

That's it, that's all; if you need to shop Wal Mart, you haven't researched
the market well enough!

-Mac-
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Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: Walmart Music Downloads


man, for 94 cents a track, and a whole album at almost 20 bucks, why
bother when a site like Mp3 sparks or other sites give you an even
wider selection for much less money? I give Wal-mart credit for
finally getting their act together and offering downloadable mp3
songs and albums, but at $20 an album, that is just too damn much
money.  If they're going to do that, sell the albums at half that
price and I bet people would be even more willing to buy them.





At 11:20 PM 8/21/2007, you wrote:
>Hi to the list.
>Now that Walmart offers some unrestricted MP3 music files for purchase, I
>wanted to check it out, but have had not much luck.
>I have logged in, selected Music, and then selected Downloads, and then
>even
>found an album with all of the track listings.  You can listen to any of
>the
>tracks, each track is listed at 94 cents, and the album is listed at
>$18.44.
>I can find no where to activate a buy button, be it a link, a button, or
>some other kind of control.
>I have plenty of experience on Amazon.com, but this one has me stumped and
>its driving me nuts.
>Any hints on buying MP3 music from this site?
>   Thanks.
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Re: ACB Tuner Updated for Alternate ACB RadioInteractiveBroadbandStream

2007-08-21 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Chris and all,

Even as an advanced technology user and ACB Radio Interactive broadcaster, I 
appreciate the simplicity of listening offered by the Tuner.

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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: ACB Tuner Updated for Alternate ACB 
RadioInteractiveBroadbandStream


Yep, to further what Jeff was saying, it's just a really easy way to
access ACB Radio's streams. You just open the program, hit a simple
hotkey, and you're listening. You won't have to keep visiting the
website and updating bookmarks or other addresses if they change, the
tuner program is actually smart enough to figure that out, so you'll
always have the ability to listen no matter what happens.
It's a nice lil piece of software if you're a fan of ACB Radio.


At 09:58 AM 8/21/2007, you wrote:
>It simply gives you a simple way to access all streams of ACB Radio.
>- Original Message -
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>Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 6:19 AM
>Subject: Re: ACB Tuner Updated for Alternate ACB Radio
>InteractiveBroadbandStream
>
>
> > I've never understood the function or purpose for ACB Tuner. Can someone
> > give me an explanation of the advantage of installing it? Thanks.
> >
> > Vicki
> >
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> > Stream
> >
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Re: Freecorder Toolbar 3 Answer for Darrell & all

2007-08-21 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Petro,

Sure.  I'll check it out as soon as I can find some time.  Thanks.

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Subject: Freecorder Toolbar 3 Answer for Darrell & all


I Darrell & Listers
This is the new Freecorder Toolbar 3 Sound Recorder and NOT the
old and very different Freecorder 2 version.

The new and free Freecorder Toolbar 3 works within your browser.

The older Freecorder 2 program you run yourself. It has some
minor issues and hopefully some scripts will be written for this
older version. Can't guarantee it yet.

Do you understand me now?

I did some podcasts on this new Freecorder Toolbar 3 program and
remember its new and their could be some bugs in it. I cannot
guarantee its going to be perfect.

Petro


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Re: What is Freecorder Toolbar 3 is explained here

2007-08-21 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Petro,

I've tried Freecorder in the past and there were accessibility issues 
serious enough to cause me to move on.  Do you know if this has changed?

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Thank you to Leslie B. for this one.

A user explains the FCT3 Sound Recorder below.

http://www.geek.com/

Review: Freecorder records any audio played on your PC for free

by JoelGeek posted on August 21, 2007 7:06 am

Applian Technologies just announced
Freecorder
, a free audio capture program for Windows Vista and XP. The
program installs as a tool bar and lets you press the record
button at any time you want to
start recording. In addition, you can stream live Internet audio
stations and record those, too.

In my tests I installed Freecorder, restarted Firefox-it works
in IE, too-and then was greeted with the new tool bar. I clicked
the play button next to
the drop down and was listening to music instantly. I then
clicked the record button and an MP3 recording of what I was
listening to was created on the
fly. It really is that easy! I then went to
Pandora.com
, allowed Pandora.com to create a channel for me, and then as
soon as it started streaming, I pressed the record button again.
Instantly, I had a recording
of my favorite artist in crisp MP3. If MP3 isn't your thing,
then you can select WAV as the output, and if you want to record
audio from other sources,
then you can do that, too (see the Settings picture below).

freecorder3.jpg

According to Applian, before Vista you could install custom
sound card
 drivers that would allow you to capture audio on your
PC
. However, with Vista it's either difficult or impossible to
capture the audio, so the company came up with this new tool
bar. Speaking of the tool bar,
it was created in partnership with Conduit, so it has a bunch of
sharing / social networking-type functions built-in.

freecorder2.jpg
Here's a picture of it recording in real-time

I can't say enough good things about this program. First, it's
free. Second, it's insanely easy to use. I was literally
recording seconds after restarting
my browser. The only drawback I found is it does make your
browser a little more busy, since it's a whole new tool bar.
However, there are a bunch of features
in this new tool bar, so you may find yourself enjoying the free
enhancements to your browsing experience.

freecorder1.jpg
Here's a clip of the tool bar-I grabbed the half with the
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Re: Simple sound settings restoration program

2007-08-01 Thread Darrell Shandrow
I wonder if this program can also restart the Windows Audio service should 
it somehow stop?  That would probably be the only condition under which I'd 
purchase this tool.  Oh, and, also, I think it would have to be able to run 
on a U3 Flash drive.

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Actually that's what I use quickmix for. I have a default profile placed in
my start up folder and it opens and I get my sound card settings back. I
also ave a shortcut key to set my default volumes back if I need to.

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:> This simple, new program was recently announced in IRTI's email
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:> -
:>
:> What Happened to my audio!
:> Do you ever find after someone else had been using
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:> is completely shutdown rendering your screen reader useless?
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:> your PC systems audio
:> output is disabled?  We can tell you that IRTI tech support hears
:> about this scenario so often it has prompted us to write a New
:> Talking Utility we referred to as Audio SafeGuard.
:>
:> Audio SafeGuard is a simple self voicing control that enables you to
:> adjust your PC's default audio settings providing accessible control
:> for Volume level and Mute State for your Master Volume, WAV audio
:> output, CD
:> Player, SW Synth,
:> Microphone and Line input devices.  The next time Audio SafeGuard is
:> launched, it compares the current default PC audio settings to the
:> stored preference file and automatically resets all audio parameters
:> back to your preferred audio settings.
:>
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:> hot-key.In either case, your preferred audio settings are
:> automatically restored without the need to ask for sighted
:> assistance.  If set to run at start up, Audio SafeGuard temporarily
:> loads, runs a sound check, then automatically exits operation
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Re: SAM encoder for winamp

2007-06-04 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Rick,

You can get the Sam Encoders from the following page:

http://www.spacialaudio.com/downloads/index.html

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That would explain why I can't find the encoder alone then I guess.  That's
too bad.

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Subject: Re: SAM encoder for winamp


The encoder is included in the SAM Broadcaster ... They don't sell it
seperately ... That is the reason it is $299.
The reason I know is because I use it.
Earle
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> Ok,
>
> I went to the spatial audio website and clicked on SAM broadcaster and
> then
> clicked on buy and it says $299.  Am I looking at the wrong product?  I
> didn't see anything that cheap there.
>
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> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 7:57 PM
> Subject: Re: SAM encoder for winamp
>
>
>
>
> Yeah same here.  Think it was $40 or something
> However I hear prices have gone up
>
> At 17:25 6/4/2007, you wrote:
>>O no! not 300 dollars. I think I payed about $45 or something in that
>>price
>>range.
>>SA&G
>>
>>:> Hi everyone,
>>:>
>>:> After having quite a few problems with the shoutcast plugin I
>>:> decided to look at SAM.  Am I correct that this productt is $300?
>>:>
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Re: Shoutcast help needed

2007-05-24 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Oh, the delay is so worth it given the advantages this approach offers!  :-)


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There's not a lot you can do about this, because the mic is being put
through StationPlaylist's Studio's audio pipeline and that does take some
processing. if it bothers you enough, you could use a separate instance of
Winamp with the Linerec plug-in to do your streaming, and use the standard
mic feature in your sound card. The same caveats about software speech from
my last post would then apply.

Jonathan

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jonathan  i have a question about station playlist how do you get rid of the
delay in the mic?

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> Hi Rick, this is really very straight forward. The only issue may be if
> the
> person concerned is using software speech through the same sound card that
> the material to be broadcast is coming from.
>
> In the Shoutcast DSP plug-in for Winamp, there are two modes. One sends
> data
> direct from Winamp itself. In other words, if you play an MP3 file, then
> the
> MP3 data is transcoded to the bit rate you select, and then sent over the
> Internet. This is nice because you can minimise Winamp and use your sound
> card for other things while streaming music. It doesn't facilitate talking
> over music though.
>
> The other mode simply broadcasts whatever is coming through the sound
> card.
> So all you have to do is select this mode, select "what you hear" or
> "stereo
> mix" or whatever the feature on that particular sound card is called that
> records what is being played through the sound card, and go for it. If the
> broadcaster is using a simple microphone plugged into the microphone
> socket,
> then the microphone will need to be unmuted in playback controls when
> speaking. While there are controls that do this for you in the Winamp DSP,

> a
> simple way to handle this is to leave the control unmuted and use a
> microphone with a switch. These can often be found on analogue headsets
> and
> some of them sound surprisingly acceptable.
>
> Now if software speech is coming through the same sound card, then either
> a
> second sound card or external synthesiser must be obtained, or you'd need
> to
> go to StationPlaylist Studio which is a fantastic solution and highly
> accessible.
>
> In the main menu archives you can still find a comprehensive series I did
> on
> Shoutcasting.
>
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Re: Shoutcast help needed

2007-05-24 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Rick,

Depends on if they would be interested in participating on ACBRI or another 
station at some point.

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>I don't think so as they are filling in for someone that is on vacation
> where they are doing this, so it's nothing permanent,  But I'll ask them.
>
> Rick
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> From: "Darrell Shandrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 7:00 PM
> Subject: Re: Shoutcast help needed
>
>
> Hi Rick,
>
> Is there any possibility all that the client might be able or willing to
> spring for something like Station Playlist Studio?  More info on that is
> available at http://www.stationplaylist.com.  Especially once it is set up
> it is quite straightforward to use.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 3:40 PM
> Subject: Re: Shoutcast help needed
>
>
>> So you are saying I do not need linerec?  I already have the shoutcast
>> plug
>> in installed.  It works fine and the stream works fine.  I only get
>> silence
>> when going to the linerec item in my playlist.
>>
>> I really can't go to these extremes of using three or four different 
>> tools
>> just to use a mic input for this.  The client isn't going to want to do
>> all
>> these things like quickmix and other tools to do this.  It's simply going
>> to
>> be too hard for them to learn all this.  I need to keep it as simple as
>> possible for them.
>>
>> Rick
>>
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>> From: "Sarah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 6:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: Shoutcast help needed
>>
>>
>> No you don't need that. you need a dsp broadcasting tool and your volume
>> control in windows. Just check the playback mic and what youhear in the
>> recording properties. when you don't want to talk anymore, you check the
>> mute box and unchck the mute box when you want to talk. You can use
>> quickmix
>> and winkey to acomplish this.
>> SA&G
>>
>> :> Thanks Darrell, I'll give that a try.  looks to be somewhat
>> :> difficult using it since it has to be in the playlist.
>> :>
>> :> Rick
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>> :> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 4:21 PM
>> :> Subject: Re: Shoutcast help needed
>> :>
>> :>
>> :> Hi Rick,
>> :>
>> :> I'm no expert in this kind of broadcasting as I use Station Playlist
>> :> Studio to take care of a lot of this nowadays, but I think what
>> :> you're looking for is the linerec plugin for Winamp.
>> :> - Original Message -
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>> :> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> :> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 12:34 PM
>> :> Subject: Shoutcast help needed
>> :>
>> :>
>> :>> Hi everyone,
>> :>>
>> :>> I am helping a client to setup a shoutcast server.  I've downloaded
>> :>> and installed the shoutcast server and shoutcast plug ins here and
>> :>> have configured them.  I have a functioning shoutcast server with
>> :>> one problem so far.  Using the winamp shoutcast plug in, how can I
>> :>> also use a microphone along with the audio stream?
>> :>>
>> :>> Any help is appreciated since I've spent many hours working on this
>> :>> project and am on a dead line to finish it and train the client on
>> :>> its usage.
>> :>>
>> :>> Thanks,
>> :>>
>> :>> Rick
>> :>>
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Re: Ordering tutorials from Brian Hartgen

2007-05-24 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Mac,

Well, unless you have written permission from Jonathan, you can't 
redistribute them.

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Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: Ordering tutorials from Brian Hartgen


> Darrell,
>
>>From our past conversations, on this subject, you admonished me to go look
> at open source stuff, giving me a couple of sources, to look up; I didn't 
> do
> that, but, to speed along the thread, of where this ought to go, what do 
> you
> suggest be done?  I have a set of files, of Mosen's FS Soundforge 
> tutorials,
> from a tape conversion, that I did.
>
> I am not going to delve into copyright infringement details, but, they are
> the only available tutorials, out here, in the community, up to this 
> moment,
> right?  I think that contacting Brian, directly, might be the trick, if
> someone has time and can elicit a response.  Failing that, well, Mosen's
> version is the only one "floating around"!  What's next?
>
> Regards,
>
> -Mac-
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> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 3:18 PM
> Subject: Re: Ordering tutorials from Brian Hartgen
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I sure wish that, when someone decides to no longer offer something for
> sale, that they would just give it away, instead of just essentially make 
> it
> vanish from the scene altogether.  Note that I am *not* asking for 
> freebies
> here; only talking about content that is no longer available at a price...
> :)
>
>
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> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 2:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Ordering tutorials from Brian Hartgen
>
>
>> Tony,
>>
>> I recently inquired as to the availability of those tutorials, through 
>> the
>> T
>> and T Consultancy; results-  No dice!  So, I guess, that means that they
>> are
>> no longer available, unless Brian Hartgen says otherwise!  A cohort of
>> his,
>> named Shawn, said NO!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Mac Norins
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>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 1:44 PM
>> Subject: Ordering tutorials from Brian Hartgen
>>
>>
>> I see that Brian Hartgen has developed a two volume tutorial dealing with
>> Sound Forge. I've tried to order it through his web site but apparently
>> there's an error on the site and orders can't be processed. Is anyone
>> aware
>> as to whether he continues to offer the tutorials for sale?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tony B. Swartz
>>
>> P.S. Are there any experienced Sound Forge users out there willing to
>> serve
>> on an instructional panel, or is the consensus that the idea be dropped?
>>
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Re: Shoutcast help needed

2007-05-24 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Rick,

Is there any possibility all that the client might be able or willing to 
spring for something like Station Playlist Studio?  More info on that is 
available at http://www.stationplaylist.com.  Especially once it is set up 
it is quite straightforward to use.

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Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: Shoutcast help needed


> So you are saying I do not need linerec?  I already have the shoutcast 
> plug
> in installed.  It works fine and the stream works fine.  I only get 
> silence
> when going to the linerec item in my playlist.
>
> I really can't go to these extremes of using three or four different tools
> just to use a mic input for this.  The client isn't going to want to do 
> all
> these things like quickmix and other tools to do this.  It's simply going 
> to
> be too hard for them to learn all this.  I need to keep it as simple as
> possible for them.
>
> Rick
>
>
> ===
>
> Visit my webpage and podcast feed at www.blind-geek-zone.net
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Sarah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 6:26 PM
> Subject: Re: Shoutcast help needed
>
>
> No you don't need that. you need a dsp broadcasting tool and your volume
> control in windows. Just check the playback mic and what youhear in the
> recording properties. when you don't want to talk anymore, you check the
> mute box and unchck the mute box when you want to talk. You can use 
> quickmix
> and winkey to acomplish this.
> SA&G
>
> :> Thanks Darrell, I'll give that a try.  looks to be somewhat
> :> difficult using it since it has to be in the playlist.
> :>
> :> Rick
> :>
> :>
> :> ===
> :>
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> :>
> :>
> :> - Original Message -
> :> From: "Darrell Shandrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> :> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> :> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 4:21 PM
> :> Subject: Re: Shoutcast help needed
> :>
> :>
> :> Hi Rick,
> :>
> :> I'm no expert in this kind of broadcasting as I use Station Playlist
> :> Studio to take care of a lot of this nowadays, but I think what
> :> you're looking for is the linerec plugin for Winamp.
> :> - Original Message -
> :> From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> :> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> :> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 12:34 PM
> :> Subject: Shoutcast help needed
> :>
> :>
> :>> Hi everyone,
> :>>
> :>> I am helping a client to setup a shoutcast server.  I've downloaded
> :>> and installed the shoutcast server and shoutcast plug ins here and
> :>> have configured them.  I have a functioning shoutcast server with
> :>> one problem so far.  Using the winamp shoutcast plug in, how can I
> :>> also use a microphone along with the audio stream?
> :>>
> :>> Any help is appreciated since I've spent many hours working on this
> :>> project and am on a dead line to finish it and train the client on
> :>> its usage.
> :>>
> :>> Thanks,
> :>>
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> :>>
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Re: Ordering tutorials from Brian Hartgen

2007-05-24 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hello,

I sure wish that, when someone decides to no longer offer something for 
sale, that they would just give it away, instead of just essentially make it 
vanish from the scene altogether.  Note that I am *not* asking for freebies 
here; only talking about content that is no longer available at a price... 
:)


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Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: Ordering tutorials from Brian Hartgen


> Tony,
>
> I recently inquired as to the availability of those tutorials, through the 
> T
> and T Consultancy; results-  No dice!  So, I guess, that means that they 
> are
> no longer available, unless Brian Hartgen says otherwise!  A cohort of 
> his,
> named Shawn, said NO!
>
> Regards,
>
> Mac Norins
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Tony Swartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 1:44 PM
> Subject: Ordering tutorials from Brian Hartgen
>
>
> I see that Brian Hartgen has developed a two volume tutorial dealing with
> Sound Forge. I've tried to order it through his web site but apparently
> there's an error on the site and orders can't be processed. Is anyone 
> aware
> as to whether he continues to offer the tutorials for sale?
>
> Thanks,
> Tony B. Swartz
>
> P.S. Are there any experienced Sound Forge users out there willing to 
> serve
> on an instructional panel, or is the consensus that the idea be dropped?
>
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Re: Shoutcast help needed

2007-05-24 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Rick,

I'm no expert in this kind of broadcasting as I use Station Playlist Studio 
to take care of a lot of this nowadays, but I think what you're looking for 
is the linerec plugin for Winamp.
- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 12:34 PM
Subject: Shoutcast help needed


> Hi everyone,
>
> I am helping a client to setup a shoutcast server.  I've downloaded and 
> installed the shoutcast server and shoutcast plug ins here and have 
> configured them.  I have a functioning shoutcast server with one problem 
> so far.  Using the winamp shoutcast plug in, how can I also use a 
> microphone along with the audio stream?
>
> Any help is appreciated since I've spent many hours working on this 
> project and am on a dead line to finish it and train the client on its 
> usage.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rick
>
>
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Re: SoundForge V8.0 problem.

2007-05-13 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Jim,

Make sure the type is set to "MP3 Audio".

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Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 1:02 PM
Subject: SoundForge V8.0 problem.


Hi Folks:
 
For some reason, I am not able to change all of the parameters I would like
in the save As/Custom dialog box.  For example, I cannot choose between
stereo, mono, joint stereo, ETC.  I am defaulting to joint stereo.
 
I can see the options with the JAWS cursor; however, they are unavailable.
 
Am I using the wrong MP3 incoder?
 
Thanks gang.
 
Jim Noseworthy CEO
Compuconference.com
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Re: Soundcard problem

2007-05-12 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Timothy,

There is a Technical Support Notice over on Freedom Scientific's web site 
that contains links to this patch.

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Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 1:36 PM
Subject: Soundcard problem


Hello,
Can someone give me the patch, or URL for the patch, that will fix the click 
sound after JAWS speaks? I'm using a SoundBlaster soundcard.



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Re: stereo question in soundforge

2007-05-08 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Brian,

Press the tab key to switch channels.

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Subject: stereo question in soundforge


Hi list, how does one move from left to right channel in a stereo
recording in soundforge. thanks, brian.


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Re: Sound Forge question for those who own it

2007-05-08 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Larry,

I did not have this problem with the downloadable versions.  Go ahead and 
see if you can register the product with sonymediasoftware.com and download 
the components through the web site.

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To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 8:33 AM
Subject: Sound Forge question for those who own it


Hi. Based on the advice offered by many members of this group, I finally
purchased Sound Forge. Now, is it me, or are the CDs that load the program
and related software somewhat inaccessible? Can someone point me in the
right direction here? So far, I accidentally stumbled onto the Sound Forge
.exe, but no luck with the programs that come with it. I have both
Windo-Eyes and Jaws, so I can work with either.

Now then, just as an observation and with no wish to stir up controversy of
any kind, in my view, the current definition of what is deemed appropriate
for discussion as PC Audio has narrowed of late, so if I've strayed off
topic, my appollogies, and please feel free to email me with suggestions off
list.

My thanks in advance to anyone who might be willing to lend a hand.

Peace,

Larry



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Re: Fwd: New ACB Radio Tuner Tutorial is Active!

2007-05-02 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Cher,

I believe the advantage of the Tuner is simply ease of access.  Simply run 
the Tuner and press a single hotkey for access to any ACB Radio stream, for 
instance, CTRL+I to go straight to ACB Radio Interactive.  You could even 
assign a shortcut key to the Tuner itself, so, for instance, you could 
access Interactive by pressing CTRL+Alt+A (or whatever you assigned as the 
shortcut to the Tuner) followed immediately by CTRL+I.


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To: "PC Audio" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 5:28 AM
Subject: Re: Fwd: New ACB Radio Tuner Tutorial is Active!


For any of us who have never used the ACB Tuner in the past, would you 
please comment on the advantages of using it over having stations bookmarked 
in the WinAmp library, as an example.  Thanks, if you have time.

Cher



>>> Steve Pattison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 05/02/07 12:14 AM >>>


>From: Matthew Horspool [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Hello Everyone,
>
>The new ACB Radio Tuner Tutorial is now active in broadband (64
>KBPS) and modem (24 KBPS) forms.  It aims to provide a detailed look
>at the ACB Radio Tuner and any prerequisites.
>
>Here is a brief Table of Contents:
>
>1.  Introduction: introduces the tutorial and provides a brief
>history of the ACB Radio Tuner.
>
>2.  What's New in version 6.5?: summarises the new features in
>version 6.5 of the ACB Radio Tuner.
>
>3.  Obtaining the Tuner: shows how to locate and download the ACB
>Radio Tuner setup file from the ACB Radio Website.
>
>4.  Installation: demonstrates the installation procedure.
>
>5.  Exploring the tuner: briefly explores the Tuner's main window
>and the "Listen to" menu.
>
>6.  Configuring the tuner: describes and demonstrates, in detail,
>all of the items in the "Options" menu, mentioning hotkeys where
>appropriate.
>
>7.  Listening to your favourite stream: shows all methods of
>listening to ACB Radio streams.
>
>8.  The Help Menu: describes and demonstrates, in detail, all of the
>items in the "Help" menu, mentioning Hotkeys where appropriate.
>
>9.  Conclusion: provides my contact information, close of the tutorial.
>
>NOTE: this table of contents is for reference purposes only: the
>tutorial is comprised of a single 33 minute MP3 file with no clear
>section separators.
>
>To listen to the tutorial, simply press F8 from anywhere in the
>tuner or choose "Listen to the Tuner Tutorial" from the "Help" menu.
>The tutorial will play according to the Player and Connection Type
>specified in the options menu.
>
>If you have any questions pertaining to this tutorial or, indeed,
>the tuner in general, please feel free to contact me:
>
>E-Mail/MSN:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Skype: matthewhorspool
>
>Happy Listening!
>Matthew Horspool,
>ACB Radio Tuner Tutorial

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Re: Tune into ACB Radio World with the brand-new ACB Radio Tuner!

2007-05-01 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Morey and all,

Once the program has been installed, simply press F1 for the Readme file or 
F8 for the audio tutorial, which should be released later today.

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Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: Tune into ACB Radio World with the brand-new ACB Radio Tuner!


Hi Steve,
If I wanted to get working with this radio program, after downloading it,
then what. Is there a tutorial or help documents that will get a person
going on the right track?
If you do not have knowledge of this, is there a source to find out?
Thank you very much,
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Re: Our Place Chat Rooms

2007-04-20 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Ketan,

Just enter your first name and leave the password blank.  It is not 
necessary to register.

- Original Message - 
From: "Ketan Kothari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: Our Place Chat Rooms


When I am trying to enter any room on ACB radio it asks me for username and
password but where and how do I register?
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From: "Steve Pattison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "GUI Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Access-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
"PC Audio" 
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 7:00 PM
Subject: Fwd: Our Place Chat Rooms


> To get to these voice chat rooms you need to go to the ACB Radio home
> page at www.acbradio.org and then activate the "Our Place" link on
> that home page.  -Steve.
>
>>From: Chrissie Cochrane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>Hi Folks
>>
>>Good news!!  Our chat rooms are back.
>>
>>Our three chat rooms, Speak Easy, Politics and Radio rooms are back.  I
>>also
>>intend to bring back the Music Room, just as soon as I've spoken to
>>Talking
>>Communities about it.
>>
>>When you click on a room from the "Our Place" page, you'll be presented
>>with
>>a page on which are two links.  If it's your first time you need to click
>>on
>>the first link and allow the software to run, rather than download.
>>Running
>>the software will also download it to your machine so there's no need to
>>do
>>it again after the first time.
>>
>>Please familiarize yourself with the menu system as there have been some
>>changes, but on the whole it works much the same as did the old software -
>>you still press the control key to speak.
>>
>>I'm sure there are going to be people that want to know why we couldn't
>>have
>>stuck with the old familiar rooms.  I must point out that the older
>>software
>>is not being supported and we have been obliged to make the change.If you
>>have any problems or complaints concerning the running of the sofware,
>>please write to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] letting me know exactly what
>>the
>>problem is, and I'll make sure that Talking Communities know of any
>>problem,
>>after all, they, like us want you to get the maximum pleasure from your
>>visit and need to know if anything is not as it should be.
>>
>>Enjoy the rooms.  There's plenty of room for all.
>>
>>Chrissie
>
> Regards Steve
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Re: Sound Forge Tutorial

2007-04-17 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Mac,

Feel free to use Google to search for terms like the following:
General Public License
GNU
Free Software Foundation
Creative Commons

- Original Message - 
From: "Mac Norins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge Tutorial


Darrell,

Being such a novice at recording and such, I was not aware of what you have
said here, in your reply to me.  I guess I could use a search engine, to
study up on Open Source stuff, but, could you give me a brief overview,
sometime?

Thanks Much,

-Mac-
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From: "Darrell Shandrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge Tutorial


Hi Mac,

I certainly wouldn't expect FS to release copyright.  If they're not going
to do anything further with it, I'd just like to see them give it away or at
least devise a written statement saying others can do so.  They could
certainly do all of that without releasing one bit of their copyright.  Open
source, and even free, software projects most certainly are copyrighted.


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From: "Mac Norins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge Tutorial


Darrell,

I spoke to FS awhile back, about this subject.  I also spoke to Jonathan.
My reason was that I had a friend, who also wanted a copy of the tutorial.
I was told that I could "give it away", but that they would not relinquish
copyright.  Jonathan also gave me his tacit permission to give it away, as
he didn't have any control over the rights, I guess.  So, I copied the
cassettes, onto files and made a set of see deeze, for my friend.  I haven't
done anything with it since and do not really want to create a bunch of sets
of see deeze, at this juncture.  So, see what you can do, to get FS to
release copyright, OK?  I think a few other people have copies of this long
ago tutorial, as well!

Regards,

Mac Norins
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From: "Darrell Shandrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge Tutorial


Hi Gary,

I think I'll write to FS and to Jonathan in that case.  If FS isn't able or
willing to sell it anymore, then I feel they should give it away or let us
know they're serious about revising it in the relatively near future.

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From: "Gary Petraccaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge Tutorial


Since it's owned by FS, that's probably not going to happen.  Brian Hartgen
(spelling), has a great tutorial as well and it's somewhat newer than
Jonathan's for FS and is lower priced, or was.  Don't know what its current
status is.

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  To: PC audio discussion list.
  Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 8:55 PM
  Subject: Re: Sound Forge Tutorial


  Hi Billy,

  Jonathan's tutorial is quite good and mostly still relevant.  I'm quite
  surprised that FS won't sell it anymore.  You should ask Jonathan if he
  would be willing to give it away at this point, especially if he doesn't
  have any plans to revise it.  Brian Hartgen also has a tutorial.  I
believe
  he can be contacted on tandt-consultency.co.uk.


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  From: "Billy Ray Legendary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
  Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 5:26 PM
  Subject: Re: Sound Forge Tutorial


  Hey, Jana!

  Formerly Littlejohn here... if you know what I mean.

  I looked into Sound Forge tutorials recently, and was told by the
  Snowman that I should get Jonathon Mozen's basic Sound Forge tutorial
  offered by Freedom Scientific, however, upon checking with Freedom, I was
  told that the tutorial was quite old, and therefore, not carried by them
  anymore.

  I  also called Jonathon directly, just to see if he might have an old
  copy laying around, but to no avail.  I finally gave up, and bought
N-Track
  Studio, because I wanted to get back into multi-track recording in the
music
  world again.

  My total cost for the N-Track studio was $54, and I can record as many
  tracks as I need, at least, theoretically speaking, so if you do not find
a
  copy of a Sound Forge tutorial, you might give it a try.

  Should you find a Sound Forge tutorial, please, let me know... I would
  like to use my Sound Forge 8.0 to modify my different music sounds with
its
  sound editing capabilities.

  Here is the URL for N-Track studio, and you can find a basic tutorial
on
  ACB radio back i

Re: Sound Forge Tutorial

2007-04-16 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Mac,

I certainly wouldn't expect FS to release copyright.  If they're not going 
to do anything further with it, I'd just like to see them give it away or at 
least devise a written statement saying others can do so.  They could 
certainly do all of that without releasing one bit of their copyright.  Open 
source, and even free, software projects most certainly are copyrighted.


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From: "Mac Norins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge Tutorial


Darrell,

I spoke to FS awhile back, about this subject.  I also spoke to Jonathan.
My reason was that I had a friend, who also wanted a copy of the tutorial.
I was told that I could "give it away", but that they would not relinquish
copyright.  Jonathan also gave me his tacit permission to give it away, as
he didn't have any control over the rights, I guess.  So, I copied the
cassettes, onto files and made a set of see deeze, for my friend.  I haven't
done anything with it since and do not really want to create a bunch of sets
of see deeze, at this juncture.  So, see what you can do, to get FS to
release copyright, OK?  I think a few other people have copies of this long
ago tutorial, as well!

Regards,

Mac Norins
- Original Message - 
From: "Darrell Shandrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge Tutorial


Hi Gary,

I think I'll write to FS and to Jonathan in that case.  If FS isn't able or
willing to sell it anymore, then I feel they should give it away or let us
know they're serious about revising it in the relatively near future.

- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Petraccaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge Tutorial


Since it's owned by FS, that's probably not going to happen.  Brian Hartgen
(spelling), has a great tutorial as well and it's somewhat newer than
Jonathan's for FS and is lower priced, or was.  Don't know what its current
status is.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Darrell Shandrow
  To: PC audio discussion list.
  Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 8:55 PM
  Subject: Re: Sound Forge Tutorial


  Hi Billy,

  Jonathan's tutorial is quite good and mostly still relevant.  I'm quite
  surprised that FS won't sell it anymore.  You should ask Jonathan if he
  would be willing to give it away at this point, especially if he doesn't
  have any plans to revise it.  Brian Hartgen also has a tutorial.  I
believe
  he can be contacted on tandt-consultency.co.uk.


  - Original Message - 
  From: "Billy Ray Legendary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
  Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 5:26 PM
  Subject: Re: Sound Forge Tutorial


  Hey, Jana!

  Formerly Littlejohn here... if you know what I mean.

  I looked into Sound Forge tutorials recently, and was told by the
  Snowman that I should get Jonathon Mozen's basic Sound Forge tutorial
  offered by Freedom Scientific, however, upon checking with Freedom, I was
  told that the tutorial was quite old, and therefore, not carried by them
  anymore.

  I  also called Jonathon directly, just to see if he might have an old
  copy laying around, but to no avail.  I finally gave up, and bought
N-Track
  Studio, because I wanted to get back into multi-track recording in the
music
  world again.

  My total cost for the N-Track studio was $54, and I can record as many
  tracks as I need, at least, theoretically speaking, so if you do not find
a
  copy of a Sound Forge tutorial, you might give it a try.

  Should you find a Sound Forge tutorial, please, let me know... I would
  like to use my Sound Forge 8.0 to modify my different music sounds with
its
  sound editing capabilities.

  Here is the URL for N-Track studio, and you can find a basic tutorial
on
  ACB radio back in about the 2001 shows by Matthew Bullis.  He basically
  covers the menus, what they do, as well as shows you how to record basic
  tracks.  In it, he covers the fact that if you want your first track to be
a
  pre-recorded track, you merely hit control 1, navigate to the desired
track,
  and hit enter, and voila!  You have your first track of music... this
would
  be perfect for your intro music.

  Your second track could be your voice coming into the previous track
  fading out.  For $54, it is an easy fix, although one that costs money.

  At some point, I would like to speak with you about how you are doing
  the Internet radio thing.  You may have heard from my sister that I am in
  Washington state now, so we may need to connect via email.  I'll send you
an
  email with my current em

Re: Sound Forge Tutorial

2007-04-16 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Gary,

I think I'll write to FS and to Jonathan in that case.  If FS isn't able or 
willing to sell it anymore, then I feel they should give it away or let us 
know they're serious about revising it in the relatively near future.

- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Petraccaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge Tutorial


Since it's owned by FS, that's probably not going to happen.  Brian Hartgen 
(spelling), has a great tutorial as well and it's somewhat newer than 
Jonathan's for FS and is lower priced, or was.  Don't know what its current 
status is.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Darrell Shandrow
  To: PC audio discussion list.
  Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 8:55 PM
  Subject: Re: Sound Forge Tutorial


  Hi Billy,

  Jonathan's tutorial is quite good and mostly still relevant.  I'm quite
  surprised that FS won't sell it anymore.  You should ask Jonathan if he
  would be willing to give it away at this point, especially if he doesn't
  have any plans to revise it.  Brian Hartgen also has a tutorial.  I 
believe
  he can be contacted on tandt-consultency.co.uk.


  - Original Message - 
  From: "Billy Ray Legendary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
  Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 5:26 PM
  Subject: Re: Sound Forge Tutorial


  Hey, Jana!

  Formerly Littlejohn here... if you know what I mean.

  I looked into Sound Forge tutorials recently, and was told by the
  Snowman that I should get Jonathon Mozen's basic Sound Forge tutorial
  offered by Freedom Scientific, however, upon checking with Freedom, I was
  told that the tutorial was quite old, and therefore, not carried by them
  anymore.

  I  also called Jonathon directly, just to see if he might have an old
  copy laying around, but to no avail.  I finally gave up, and bought 
N-Track
  Studio, because I wanted to get back into multi-track recording in the 
music
  world again.

  My total cost for the N-Track studio was $54, and I can record as many
  tracks as I need, at least, theoretically speaking, so if you do not find 
a
  copy of a Sound Forge tutorial, you might give it a try.

  Should you find a Sound Forge tutorial, please, let me know... I would
  like to use my Sound Forge 8.0 to modify my different music sounds with 
its
  sound editing capabilities.

  Here is the URL for N-Track studio, and you can find a basic tutorial 
on
  ACB radio back in about the 2001 shows by Matthew Bullis.  He basically
  covers the menus, what they do, as well as shows you how to record basic
  tracks.  In it, he covers the fact that if you want your first track to be 
a
  pre-recorded track, you merely hit control 1, navigate to the desired 
track,
  and hit enter, and voila!  You have your first track of music... this 
would
  be perfect for your intro music.

  Your second track could be your voice coming into the previous track
  fading out.  For $54, it is an easy fix, although one that costs money.

  At some point, I would like to speak with you about how you are doing
  the Internet radio thing.  You may have heard from my sister that I am in
  Washington state now, so we may need to connect via email.  I'll send you 
an
  email with my current email address via your Website email address.

  Take care, and give your mom my love...  Here is the URL:

  http://www.ntrack.com

  Billy
  - Original Message - 
  From: "Jana Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
  Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 4:55 PM
  Subject: Sound Forge Tutorial


  > Hi, all!  I'm trying to find a tutorial for Sound Forge 8 that is
  > accessible.  I need one ASAP.  Also, I'm planning to use Sound Forge to
  > record radio shows.  I need to be able to talk over intros to songs
  > sometimes, and I'll probably need to record intros to promote my show.
  > Would SF be the right choice for me, since I already have it, or would 
it
  > be
  > better for me to go with GoldWave?  Thanks!
  >
  > Jana
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Re: Sound Forge Tutorial

2007-04-16 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Billy,

Jonathan's tutorial is quite good and mostly still relevant.  I'm quite 
surprised that FS won't sell it anymore.  You should ask Jonathan if he 
would be willing to give it away at this point, especially if he doesn't 
have any plans to revise it.  Brian Hartgen also has a tutorial.  I believe 
he can be contacted on tandt-consultency.co.uk.


- Original Message - 
From: "Billy Ray Legendary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge Tutorial


Hey, Jana!

Formerly Littlejohn here... if you know what I mean.

I looked into Sound Forge tutorials recently, and was told by the
Snowman that I should get Jonathon Mozen's basic Sound Forge tutorial
offered by Freedom Scientific, however, upon checking with Freedom, I was
told that the tutorial was quite old, and therefore, not carried by them
anymore.

I  also called Jonathon directly, just to see if he might have an old
copy laying around, but to no avail.  I finally gave up, and bought N-Track
Studio, because I wanted to get back into multi-track recording in the music
world again.

My total cost for the N-Track studio was $54, and I can record as many
tracks as I need, at least, theoretically speaking, so if you do not find a
copy of a Sound Forge tutorial, you might give it a try.

Should you find a Sound Forge tutorial, please, let me know... I would
like to use my Sound Forge 8.0 to modify my different music sounds with its
sound editing capabilities.

Here is the URL for N-Track studio, and you can find a basic tutorial on
ACB radio back in about the 2001 shows by Matthew Bullis.  He basically
covers the menus, what they do, as well as shows you how to record basic
tracks.  In it, he covers the fact that if you want your first track to be a
pre-recorded track, you merely hit control 1, navigate to the desired track,
and hit enter, and voila!  You have your first track of music... this would
be perfect for your intro music.

Your second track could be your voice coming into the previous track
fading out.  For $54, it is an easy fix, although one that costs money.

At some point, I would like to speak with you about how you are doing
the Internet radio thing.  You may have heard from my sister that I am in
Washington state now, so we may need to connect via email.  I'll send you an
email with my current email address via your Website email address.

Take care, and give your mom my love...  Here is the URL:

http://www.ntrack.com

Billy
- Original Message - 
From: "Jana Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 4:55 PM
Subject: Sound Forge Tutorial


> Hi, all!  I'm trying to find a tutorial for Sound Forge 8 that is
> accessible.  I need one ASAP.  Also, I'm planning to use Sound Forge to
> record radio shows.  I need to be able to talk over intros to songs
> sometimes, and I'll probably need to record intros to promote my show.
> Would SF be the right choice for me, since I already have it, or would it
> be
> better for me to go with GoldWave?  Thanks!
>
> Jana
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Re: SF9

2007-04-14 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Chris,

Actually, yes, it is multi-channel, as in surround sound, but it is *not* 
multitrack.

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Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: SF9


> Hi.  no SF 9 does not have surround sound as far as I know? It does
> have multitrack recording which is a completely different idea
> altogether. but that's what I know about that.
>
> At 10:25 AM 4/14/2007, you wrote:
>>I had heard an announcement that Sony had released SF9. I had heard that
>>this offers surround sound output. Has anyone tried this with screen 
>>readers
>>to see how accessible it is?
>>Thanks
>>
>>
>>Casey
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Re: Coming up on Main Menu and Main Menu Live for the weekof April4th, 2007

2007-04-03 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Brent,

Well, please, don't forget to listen to the show tonight and either call in 
or write a message to our [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN / Windows Live Messenger 
address this evening to pose these questions.

- Original Message - 
From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: Coming up on Main Menu and Main Menu Live for the weekof 
April4th, 2007


> That's it. Rick Harmon did a review, and it's looking like NVDA is 
> probably
> the better of the free choices right now. The major drawbacks I recall are
> too much verbosity for a more advanced user and the fact it takes over a
> minute to load the site into the virtual buffer for blindcooltech.com and
> any other big site on a 3 gig pentium. I will probably test that myself on
> my machine, it could be an interaction with other software he has in the
> background making it slow.
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Sky Taylor Mundell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 8:42 AM
> Subject: Re: Coming up on Main Menu and Main Menu Live for the week of
> April4th, 2007
>
>
>> Thunder on a stick? Is he meaning the one from screenreader.net? I have
>> Thunder on this laptop so I asume he's doing the one from 
>> screenreader.net
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Steve Pattison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "GUI Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Access-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>> "PC Audio" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 6:39 AM
>> Subject: Fwd: Coming up on Main Menu and Main Menu Live for the week of
>> April 4th, 2007
>>
>>
>>>
From: Jeff on ACB Radio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello Everyone,

This week on Main Menu Live we present iTunes on the Mac.  With the
recent
announcement of more accessibility for Mac users to use Voice Over with
iTunes, we wanted you to hear more about it from a Mac user's
perspective.
John Gunn presents to us initial findings using iTunes with Voice Over 
on
the Mac.

Next we hear from RJ from RJ Cooper all about Thunder on a stick.  This
is
a
low cost screen reading alternative for those that may not be able to
afford
the more expensive products.  After RJ's presentation we bring him on
Main
Menu Live to talk with us and you can call in and ask your own questions
of
RJ.

Darrell and I will do a brief tech round up for the week.  We have news
about a JAWS update that is now available, the new PodNova podcatching
desktop client, and much more.

The number to call into the show is 866-400-5333.  You can also email
your
questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You can also interact with the show via MSN Messenger.  The MSN 
Messenger
ID
to add is:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Would you like to interact with a group of Main Menu listeners about the
topics heard on Main Menu and Main Menu Live?  You can do this by 
joining
the Main Menu Friends email list.  The address to subscribe is:

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Come join an already lively group of users.

Would you like to subscribe to podcasts feeds for Main Menu and Main 
Menu
Live?  The RSS feeds to add to your podcatching application are:

Main Menu
http://www.acbradio.org/podcasts/mainmenu

Main Menu Live
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Main Menu and Main Menu Live can be heard on Tuesday evening at 9:00
Eastern, 6:00 Pacific, and at 1 universal on Wednesday morning on the 
ACB
Radio Main Stream channel.  Don't forget that this will be a 2 hour 
show.

To listen to the show, just click this link:

www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_p
age&PAGE_id=8&MMN_position=14:14

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Main Menu Producer
>>>
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Re: Coming up on Main Menu and Main Menu Live for the week of April4th, 2007

2007-04-03 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Yes.  This is the product from screenreader.net.

- Original Message - 
From: "Sky Taylor Mundell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 6:42 AM
Subject: Re: Coming up on Main Menu and Main Menu Live for the week of 
April4th, 2007


> Thunder on a stick? Is he meaning the one from screenreader.net? I have
> Thunder on this laptop so I asume he's doing the one from screenreader.net
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Steve Pattison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "GUI Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Access-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> "PC Audio" 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 6:39 AM
> Subject: Fwd: Coming up on Main Menu and Main Menu Live for the week of
> April 4th, 2007
>
>
>>
>>>From: Jeff on ACB Radio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>>Hello Everyone,
>>>
>>>This week on Main Menu Live we present iTunes on the Mac.  With the 
>>>recent
>>>announcement of more accessibility for Mac users to use Voice Over with
>>>iTunes, we wanted you to hear more about it from a Mac user's 
>>>perspective.
>>>John Gunn presents to us initial findings using iTunes with Voice Over on
>>>the Mac.
>>>
>>>Next we hear from RJ from RJ Cooper all about Thunder on a stick.  This 
>>>is
>>>a
>>>low cost screen reading alternative for those that may not be able to
>>>afford
>>>the more expensive products.  After RJ's presentation we bring him on 
>>>Main
>>>Menu Live to talk with us and you can call in and ask your own questions
>>>of
>>>RJ.
>>>
>>>Darrell and I will do a brief tech round up for the week.  We have news
>>>about a JAWS update that is now available, the new PodNova podcatching
>>>desktop client, and much more.
>>>
>>>The number to call into the show is 866-400-5333.  You can also email 
>>>your
>>>questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>>You can also interact with the show via MSN Messenger.  The MSN Messenger
>>>ID
>>>to add is:
>>>
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
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>>>topics heard on Main Menu and Main Menu Live?  You can do this by joining
>>>the Main Menu Friends email list.  The address to subscribe is:
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>>>
>>>Main Menu and Main Menu Live can be heard on Tuesday evening at 9:00
>>>Eastern, 6:00 Pacific, and at 1 universal on Wednesday morning on the ACB
>>>Radio Main Stream channel.  Don't forget that this will be a 2 hour show.
>>>
>>>To listen to the show, just click this link:
>>>
>>>www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_p
>>>age&PAGE_id=8&MMN_position=14:14
>>>
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>>>Main Menu Producer
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Re: PlexTech Book Reader review

2007-03-11 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Peter,

No.  Nothing more from MySpace.  It just hasn't yet been important enough 
for me to take it further, but it is definitely one of many access issues 
that needs to be tackled, especially with respect to the CAPTCHA.  I'm not 
aware of a review of the OpticBook 3600 by itself.  The Plustek Book Reader 
is available on the Main Menu On Demand page at acbradio.org.

- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Scanlon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: PlexTech Book Reader review


> Hello Darrell,
>
> What is the OpticBook and where can I find a review of it? And did you 
> ever
> hear anymore from the MySpace people?
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Darrell Shandrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 5:41 AM
> Subject: Re: PlexTech Book Reader review
>
>
>> Hi Sky,
>>
>> Yeah.  Probably so.  The performance of the Plustek Book Reader is
>> unfortunate, given the absolutely relevolutionary OpticBook 3600 scanner,
>> which I continue to recommend especially for those who need to scan a lot
>> of
>> books.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Sky Taylor Mundell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 11:11 AM
>> Subject: PlexTech Book Reader review
>>
>>
>>> Hello Darrel, I liked your review of the PlexTech Book Reader review on
>>> Main
>>> Menu. While you did the review, did you have a little bit of a cold when
>>> you
>>> did the review?
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Darrell Shandrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 9:51 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Tv Tuner Cards
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Jon,
>>>>
>>>> Yep, and, once you do that, you lost almost all advantages of doing 
>>>> this
>>>> in
>>>> the first place since the channels must then be changed at the box.
>>>> Bummer.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: "Jon C. Pierson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 9:59 AM
>>>> Subject: RE: Tv Tuner Cards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Darrell,
>>>>> I'm not sure about digital cable, I just have basic hooked directly
>>>>> into
>>>>> the
>>>>> card which is 125 channel. My guess is that a converter box going into
>>>>> the
>>>>> card set to the appropriate channel like in the old Vcr days would act
>>>>> similarly.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jon C. Pierson
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 8:42 AM
>>>>> To: PC audio discussion list.
>>>>> Subject: Re: Tv Tuner Cards
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jon,
>>>>>
>>>>> Does the Hauppauge work with digital cable?  If you're using it with
>>>>> digital
>>>>> cable, which provider?
>>>>>
>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>> From: "Jon C. Pierson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 7:30 AM
>>>>> Subject: RE: Tv Tuner Cards
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm using a Hauppauge psi card and the software works fine.
>>>>>> I did write some scripts so that messages would be announced as to
>>>>>> station
>>>>>> name and call letters when arrowing through the stations but that
>>>>>> wasn't
>>>>>> really needed if you know your channels.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jon C. Pierson
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>&g

Re: PlexTech Book Reader review

2007-03-10 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Sky,

Yeah.  Probably so.  The performance of the Plustek Book Reader is 
unfortunate, given the absolutely relevolutionary OpticBook 3600 scanner, 
which I continue to recommend especially for those who need to scan a lot of 
books.

- Original Message - 
From: "Sky Taylor Mundell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 11:11 AM
Subject: PlexTech Book Reader review


> Hello Darrel, I liked your review of the PlexTech Book Reader review on 
> Main
> Menu. While you did the review, did you have a little bit of a cold when 
> you
> did the review?
> ----- Original Message - 
> From: "Darrell Shandrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 9:51 AM
> Subject: Re: Tv Tuner Cards
>
>
>> Hi Jon,
>>
>> Yep, and, once you do that, you lost almost all advantages of doing this
>> in
>> the first place since the channels must then be changed at the box.
>> Bummer.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Jon C. Pierson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
>> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 9:59 AM
>> Subject: RE: Tv Tuner Cards
>>
>>
>>> Hi Darrell,
>>> I'm not sure about digital cable, I just have basic hooked directly into
>>> the
>>> card which is 125 channel. My guess is that a converter box going into
>>> the
>>> card set to the appropriate channel like in the old Vcr days would act
>>> similarly.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jon C. Pierson
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 8:42 AM
>>> To: PC audio discussion list.
>>> Subject: Re: Tv Tuner Cards
>>>
>>> Hi Jon,
>>>
>>> Does the Hauppauge work with digital cable?  If you're using it with
>>> digital
>>> cable, which provider?
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Jon C. Pierson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 7:30 AM
>>> Subject: RE: Tv Tuner Cards
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'm using a Hauppauge psi card and the software works fine.
>>>> I did write some scripts so that messages would be announced as to
>>>> station
>>>> name and call letters when arrowing through the stations but that 
>>>> wasn't
>>>> really needed if you know your channels.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jon C. Pierson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 5:57 PM
>>>> To: PC audio discussion list.
>>>> Subject: Re: Tv Tuner Cards
>>>>
>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>
>>>> You should be able to use Replay A/V for the software component, but I
>>>> do
>>>> not yet have any experience on the TV Tuner card hardware side of the
>>>> house.
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "Mike Pietruk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 6:50 PM
>>>> Subject: Tv Tuner Cards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Ok!  For what likely is the stupid question for the month of March on
>>>>> this
>>>>> list:
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to run the signal of our tv cable into a desktop pc.
>>>>> I am guessing that I need a tv tuner usb card into which I plug the
>>>>> cable.
>>>>> That is probably the simple part.
>>>>> I am also guessing that I also need a piece of software to select the
>>>>> channels that are playing at any given moment, and this could have 
>>>>> some
>>>>> accessability issues as the wrong software might make channel hopping
>>>>> difficult.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am using Window-Eyes 6.0 on a machine operating with XP home with 
>>>>> 512
>>&

Re: Tv Tuner Cards

2007-03-10 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Jon,

Yep, and, once you do that, you lost almost all advantages of doing this in 
the first place since the channels must then be changed at the box.  Bummer.

Thanks.

- Original Message - 
From: "Jon C. Pierson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 9:59 AM
Subject: RE: Tv Tuner Cards


> Hi Darrell,
> I'm not sure about digital cable, I just have basic hooked directly into 
> the
> card which is 125 channel. My guess is that a converter box going into the
> card set to the appropriate channel like in the old Vcr days would act
> similarly.
>
>
>
>
> Jon C. Pierson
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow
> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 8:42 AM
> To: PC audio discussion list.
> Subject: Re: Tv Tuner Cards
>
> Hi Jon,
>
> Does the Hauppauge work with digital cable?  If you're using it with 
> digital
> cable, which provider?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jon C. Pierson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 7:30 AM
> Subject: RE: Tv Tuner Cards
>
>
>> I'm using a Hauppauge psi card and the software works fine.
>> I did write some scripts so that messages would be announced as to 
>> station
>> name and call letters when arrowing through the stations but that wasn't
>> really needed if you know your channels.
>>
>>
>> Jon C. Pierson
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow
>> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 5:57 PM
>> To: PC audio discussion list.
>> Subject: Re: Tv Tuner Cards
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> You should be able to use Replay A/V for the software component, but I do
>> not yet have any experience on the TV Tuner card hardware side of the
>> house.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Mike Pietruk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 6:50 PM
>> Subject: Tv Tuner Cards
>>
>>
>>> Ok!  For what likely is the stupid question for the month of March on
>>> this
>>> list:
>>>
>>> I would like to run the signal of our tv cable into a desktop pc.
>>> I am guessing that I need a tv tuner usb card into which I plug the
>>> cable.
>>> That is probably the simple part.
>>> I am also guessing that I also need a piece of software to select the
>>> channels that are playing at any given moment, and this could have some
>>> accessability issues as the wrong software might make channel hopping
>>> difficult.
>>>
>>> I am using Window-Eyes 6.0 on a machine operating with XP home with 512
>>> mb
>>> of ram.
>>> There is plentyof free disk space.
>>>
>>> Can you folks give me some direction as to what I need to look for.
>>> While
>>> I rather spend more than less, my ultimate goal is simplicity of us
>>> preferably with the simplicity I can get now of tapping a few keys or
>>> numbers and getting to the desired channel.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Tv Tuner Cards

2007-03-10 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Jon,

Does the Hauppauge work with digital cable?  If you're using it with digital 
cable, which provider?

- Original Message - 
From: "Jon C. Pierson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 7:30 AM
Subject: RE: Tv Tuner Cards


> I'm using a Hauppauge psi card and the software works fine.
> I did write some scripts so that messages would be announced as to station
> name and call letters when arrowing through the stations but that wasn't
> really needed if you know your channels.
>
>
> Jon C. Pierson
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow
> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 5:57 PM
> To: PC audio discussion list.
> Subject: Re: Tv Tuner Cards
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> You should be able to use Replay A/V for the software component, but I do
> not yet have any experience on the TV Tuner card hardware side of the 
> house.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mike Pietruk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 6:50 PM
> Subject: Tv Tuner Cards
>
>
>> Ok!  For what likely is the stupid question for the month of March on 
>> this
>> list:
>>
>> I would like to run the signal of our tv cable into a desktop pc.
>> I am guessing that I need a tv tuner usb card into which I plug the 
>> cable.
>> That is probably the simple part.
>> I am also guessing that I also need a piece of software to select the
>> channels that are playing at any given moment, and this could have some
>> accessability issues as the wrong software might make channel hopping
>> difficult.
>>
>> I am using Window-Eyes 6.0 on a machine operating with XP home with 512 
>> mb
>> of ram.
>> There is plentyof free disk space.
>>
>> Can you folks give me some direction as to what I need to look for. 
>> While
>> I rather spend more than less, my ultimate goal is simplicity of us
>> preferably with the simplicity I can get now of tapping a few keys or
>> numbers and getting to the desired channel.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more...
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Re: Tv Tuner Cards

2007-03-09 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Mike,

You should be able to use Replay A/V for the software component, but I do 
not yet have any experience on the TV Tuner card hardware side of the house.

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Pietruk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 6:50 PM
Subject: Tv Tuner Cards


> Ok!  For what likely is the stupid question for the month of March on this
> list:
>
> I would like to run the signal of our tv cable into a desktop pc.
> I am guessing that I need a tv tuner usb card into which I plug the cable.
> That is probably the simple part.
> I am also guessing that I also need a piece of software to select the
> channels that are playing at any given moment, and this could have some
> accessability issues as the wrong software might make channel hopping
> difficult.
>
> I am using Window-Eyes 6.0 on a machine operating with XP home with 512 mb
> of ram.
> There is plentyof free disk space.
>
> Can you folks give me some direction as to what I need to look for.  While
> I rather spend more than less, my ultimate goal is simplicity of us
> preferably with the simplicity I can get now of tapping a few keys or
> numbers and getting to the desired channel.
>
>
>
>
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Re: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Dane,

Actually, if Apple would like to continue its programs like iTunes 
University and, for that matter, have iTunes used *anywhere* within 
education/government here in the USA then, actually, yes, they do "have to" 
be accessible, otherwise, they're violating at least sections 504 and 508 of 
our Federal Rehabilitation Act.  In this case inaccessibility is technically 
against the law and could result in losses of millions of dollars in edu/gov 
contracts.


- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple


>I can tell you that in the case of Itunes this is not true as I know
> someone who has confirmed that he is working with Apple to improve
> access to the windows version, just because you personally don't get
> an acknowledgement from Apple or anyone else doesn't mean your'e
> being ignored, that's why I say its very important to make your
> feelings known to Apple or whoever and (wherever possible) try to be
> positive, remember Apple or anyone else for that matter doesn't have
> to do anything so Aplle or anyone else is (without notice) entitled
> to tell us all to go and jump if they want to and I fear that too
> much bagging of people who write software etc may cause a few to do
> just that and this is exactly what we don't need, once again blind
> people have to realise that unfortunate as it is, they are a minority
> group so we have to pick and choose the path we take carefully.
>
> Now as far as Apple ignoring blind people for years? that's absolute
> twaddle and I can go back 12 years to when I used other Screen
> Reading software for my Mac, accessability though limited compared to
> what it is today was available in Mac's then and I could run audio
> tools then but I'm not going to say any more right now for fear of
> getting bobbed down in an off-topic discussion for this list even
> though its an interesting one.
> On 08/03/2007, at 4:30 AM, Darrell Shandrow wrote:
>
> Hi Chris and all,
>
> Anytime we ask for something and the people on the other side ignore us
> completely, as though we do not exist, well, we have a legitimate
> gripe with
> such people.  That's exactly how Apple has treated us, in many cases,
> over
> the years.  I'm glad iTunes is now, finally, accessible.  Apple has
> finally
> made their own iTunes player and store accessible to its very own screen
> reader built into its own operating system for goodness sake.  It is
> about
> time!  I'm glad they finally did it, but I'm not sure they necessarily
> deserve the Accessibility Achievement of the Year or any similar such
> awards
> or praise.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Chris Skarstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:49 AM
> Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple
>
>
>> But see, that's the point, I have written to Apple several times
>> requesting that they atempt to make their Windows version of iTunes
>> more friendly to screenreader users, and to date I haven't seen much
>> action.  So, I have gotten to them and requested that some work be
>> done.  True, most people won't, but I did, and all I got back was a
>> big fat nothing in response.
>>
>> At 10:31 AM 3/7/2007, you wrote:
>>> I think that comment to be extremely unfair, Apple put out a Windows
>>> version of Itunes for the simple reason that not everyone uses or
>>> wants to use a Mac and people have the right to use or not to use
>>> what they want and Apple like the rest of us recognises that 90% of
>>> computer users out there use Windows so it makes good marketing sense
>>> to have Itunes working on a Windows platform.
>>> Now something I'm extremely curious about, why is it that people
>>> using PC's and Windows like to spend there time whining whilst people
>>> using Apple Macs seem to be concentrate on writing constructive
>>> letters to people and trying to get accessability issues sorted out
>>> .
>>>
>>> On 08/03/2007, at 2:55 AM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
>>>
>>> Here here Jeff, couldn't agree with you more man. I think Apple put
>>> out their Windows version of iTunes mainly so that they could say
>>> they have a Windows version out, and they could give a crap less
>>> about accessibility.
>>> Yell and scream about how great it is Mac users, you finally got what
>>> you wanted.  But I'm going to continue to hold App

Re: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Darrell Shandrow
OK.  Good.  That's great news in that case.  Looking forward to some actual 
results then.  It has only been a few years and 7 major versions of 
iTunes...

- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple


> I'm talking to people who are working with Apple on Itunes yes.
>
> On 08/03/2007, at 4:32 AM, Darrell Shandrow wrote:
>
> Hi Dane,
>
>  Many us have written to many different people and general e-mail
> addresses
> at Apple Computer over the years and have gotten no responses.  Are you
> saying that you're talking with people in Apple who are saying it is
> in the
> works, or are you talking with people outside Apple who are just
> hoping and
> praying it'll eventually be done?
> Just want to be clear.
>
> Thanks.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:57 AM
> Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple
>
>
>> Ok, well I take my hat off to you for writing as allot of people just
>> sit back and let others do the hard work but I can assure you from
>> people I've spoken to that Itunes for Windows and accessability
>> issues are indeed being worked on.
>>
>> On 08/03/2007, at 3:49 AM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
>>
>> But see, that's the point, I have written to Apple several times
>> requesting that they atempt to make their Windows version of iTunes
>> more friendly to screenreader users, and to date I haven't seen much
>> action.  So, I have gotten to them and requested that some work be
>> done.  True, most people won't, but I did, and all I got back was a
>> big fat nothing in response.
>>
>> At 10:31 AM 3/7/2007, you wrote:
>>> I think that comment to be extremely unfair, Apple put out a Windows
>>> version of Itunes for the simple reason that not everyone uses or
>>> wants to use a Mac and people have the right to use or not to use
>>> what they want and Apple like the rest of us recognises that 90% of
>>> computer users out there use Windows so it makes good marketing sense
>>> to have Itunes working on a Windows platform.
>>> Now something I'm extremely curious about, why is it that people
>>> using PC's and Windows like to spend there time whining whilst people
>>> using Apple Macs seem to be concentrate on writing constructive
>>> letters to people and trying to get accessability issues sorted out
>>> .
>>>
>>> On 08/03/2007, at 2:55 AM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
>>>
>>> Here here Jeff, couldn't agree with you more man. I think Apple put
>>> out their Windows version of iTunes mainly so that they could say
>>> they have a Windows version out, and they could give a crap less
>>> about accessibility.
>>> Yell and scream about how great it is Mac users, you finally got what
>>> you wanted.  But I'm going to continue to hold Apple in contempt
>>> until they produce a screenreader friendly version of iTunes.  When I
>>> say "screenreader friendly", I mean a version that does not require
>>> the use of scripts or set files to work.  Fat chance of that
>>> happening...I'll believe it when it happens.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At 09:24 AM 3/7/2007, you wrote:
>>>> The proof is in the pudding.  Apple still hasn't gotten Windows
>>>> Vista
>>>> support done let alone accessibility, so I am sure it is merely a
>>>> priority
>>>> for the Mac platform more then it is for the Windows platform.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> audio.org]
>>>> On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 7:55 AM
>>>> To: PC audio discussion list.
>>>> Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple
>>>>
>>>> Better accessability for Itunes is being worked on. I'm not making
>>>> excuses
>>>> for Apple but everything takes time and I'm sure that Windows users
>>>> will end
>>>> up with a totally accessible version of Itunes before too long,
>>>> just be
>>>> patient, can't say too much right now.
>>>> Why do Apple users make a thing about how accessible Itunes is?
>>>> Because quite

Re: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Stephen,

Hmm.  Not sure they were an exhibitor last year, either, but they did do a 
couple of education oriented presentations.  I went to one of these and, 
sadly, it was pretty much all soft fuzzy stuff with few hard facts 
concerning what really does and does not work with VoiceOver, even in the 
educational arena.  Alas, I just can't imagine VoiceOver, in its present 
state of evolution, working with the types of software used in schools today 
especially for math and science.


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Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 12:05 PM
Subject: RE: Hats Off to Apple


> Hi to all, the vendor list for Csun is up and available, but Apple is not
> part of it
>
>
>
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow
> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 1:07 PM
> To: PC audio discussion list.
> Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> I think Apple is going to be in attendance at CSUN again this year.  I 
> think
> someone should finally really confront them hard about this as publicly as
> possible.  Of course, they tend to send people who really don't know much 
> of
> anything, but, well, they should take our concerns back with them from the
> conference.  Of course, they should hear from more than just one or two
> "troublemakers" at the conference concerning issues like this.
>
> How about this as a list of issues, which ought to also impact their
> educational business:
> * Access to real office productivity suites with VoiceOver?
> * Compatibility with applications that haven't explicitly been developed 
> for
> accessibility.
> * Access to iTunes on Windows.
>
> I tried to address these issues last year, but the Apple folks they send
> don't know how to address them correctly and thus it tends to get
> side-stepped.
> Too bad I can't attend this time around.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Chris Skarstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 8:55 AM
> Subject: RE: Hats Off to Apple
>
>
>> Here here Jeff, couldn't agree with you more man. I think Apple put
>> out their Windows version of iTunes mainly so that they could say
>> they have a Windows version out, and they could give a crap less
>> about accessibility.
>> Yell and scream about how great it is Mac users, you finally got what
>> you wanted.  But I'm going to continue to hold Apple in contempt
>> until they produce a screenreader friendly version of iTunes.  When I
>> say "screenreader friendly", I mean a version that does not require
>> the use of scripts or set files to work.  Fat chance of that
>> happening...I'll believe it when it happens.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 09:24 AM 3/7/2007, you wrote:
>>>The proof is in the pudding.  Apple still hasn't gotten Windows Vista
>>>support done let alone accessibility, so I am sure it is merely a 
>>>priority
>>>for the Mac platform more then it is for the Windows platform.
>>>
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 7:55 AM
>>>To: PC audio discussion list.
>>>Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple
>>>
>>>Better accessability for Itunes is being worked on. I'm not making 
>>>excuses
>>>for Apple but everything takes time and I'm sure that Windows users will
>>>end
>>>up with a totally accessible version of Itunes before too long, just be
>>>patient, can't say too much right now.
>>>Why do Apple users make a thing about how accessible Itunes is?
>>>Because quite simply its worth making a thing about, its taken a while 
>>>but
>>>Itunes has turned overnight from something which wasn't all that
>>>accessible
>>>at all (more near to totally inaccessible) to something which is getting
>>>to
>>>the point of being near totally accessible so that in its

Re: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Chris,

I think Apple is going to be in attendance at CSUN again this year.  I think 
someone should finally really confront them hard about this as publicly as 
possible.  Of course, they tend to send people who really don't know much of 
anything, but, well, they should take our concerns back with them from the 
conference.  Of course, they should hear from more than just one or two 
"troublemakers" at the conference concerning issues like this.

How about this as a list of issues, which ought to also impact their 
educational business:
* Access to real office productivity suites with VoiceOver?
* Compatibility with applications that haven't explicitly been developed for 
accessibility.
* Access to iTunes on Windows.

I tried to address these issues last year, but the Apple folks they send 
don't know how to address them correctly and thus it tends to get 
side-stepped.
Too bad I can't attend this time around.



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From: "Chris Skarstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 8:55 AM
Subject: RE: Hats Off to Apple


> Here here Jeff, couldn't agree with you more man. I think Apple put
> out their Windows version of iTunes mainly so that they could say
> they have a Windows version out, and they could give a crap less
> about accessibility.
> Yell and scream about how great it is Mac users, you finally got what
> you wanted.  But I'm going to continue to hold Apple in contempt
> until they produce a screenreader friendly version of iTunes.  When I
> say "screenreader friendly", I mean a version that does not require
> the use of scripts or set files to work.  Fat chance of that
> happening...I'll believe it when it happens.
>
>
>
>
>
> At 09:24 AM 3/7/2007, you wrote:
>>The proof is in the pudding.  Apple still hasn't gotten Windows Vista
>>support done let alone accessibility, so I am sure it is merely a priority
>>for the Mac platform more then it is for the Windows platform.
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 7:55 AM
>>To: PC audio discussion list.
>>Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple
>>
>>Better accessability for Itunes is being worked on. I'm not making excuses
>>for Apple but everything takes time and I'm sure that Windows users will 
>>end
>>up with a totally accessible version of Itunes before too long, just be
>>patient, can't say too much right now.
>>Why do Apple users make a thing about how accessible Itunes is?
>>Because quite simply its worth making a thing about, its taken a while but
>>Itunes has turned overnight from something which wasn't all that 
>>accessible
>>at all (more near to totally inaccessible) to something which is getting 
>>to
>>the point of being near totally accessible so that in itself is worth 
>>making
>>a thing about plus the fact that all the hard work and all the
>>correspondence between Apple and Voiceover users finally paid off, we now
>>have a commitment on behalf of Apple that further development will 
>>continue
>>etc.
>>
>>On 08/03/2007, at 12:28 AM, Stephen Guerra wrote:
>>
>>It appears that those who are using Macs are giving praise to Apple where 
>>I
>>as a Windows user still as most find that Itunes is still lacking.
>>
>>Seems like any hint of an Apple user makes them scream that the little
>>tidbit that Apple does is golden, well, its not and they are not, (meaning
>>Apple) are Golden Delicious.
>>
>>More like rotten Macintosh!
>>
>>
>>
>>Stephen A. Guerra
>>Assistive Technology Specialist
>>Independent Living Aids
>>
>>"Products for Your Active Independent Life!"
>>
>>200 Robbins Lane
>>Jericho, NY 11753
>>Phone: (516) 937-1848-x313
>>Fax: (516) 937-3906
>>
>>E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Skype: ILASteve
>>Web Site:
>>http://www.independentliving.com
>>http://www.soundbytes.com
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>audio.org]
>>On Behalf Of David Tanner
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 1:15 AM
>>To: PC audio discussion list.
>>Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple
>>
>>Why doesn't that surprise me???
>>
>>
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "Chris Skarstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 2:14 PM
>>Subject: RE: Hats Off to Apple
>>
>>
>>: Yes, I have tried iTunes 7.1 under windows, I wanted to try to have
>>: an open mind and try it, and guess what? It is still just as
>>: inaccessible as it was previously. So apple is still the lose, at
>>: least under the windows platform.
>>: and because Apple has made *absolutely* no efforts whatsoever in
>>: making the windows version of iTunes more accessible, I can't support
>>them.
>>:
>>:
>>:
>>:
>>:
>>:
>>:
>>:
>>: At 01:54 PM 3/6/2007, you wrote:
>>: >Has anyone tried it with windows
>>: >
>>: >
>>: >
>>: >Stephen A. Guerra
>>: >Assistive Technology Specialist
>>: >Independent Living Aids
>>: >
>>: >"Products for

Re: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Dane,

 Many us have written to many different people and general e-mail addresses 
at Apple Computer over the years and have gotten no responses.  Are you 
saying that you're talking with people in Apple who are saying it is in the 
works, or are you talking with people outside Apple who are just hoping and 
praying it'll eventually be done?
Just want to be clear.

Thanks.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple


> Ok, well I take my hat off to you for writing as allot of people just
> sit back and let others do the hard work but I can assure you from
> people I've spoken to that Itunes for Windows and accessability
> issues are indeed being worked on.
>
> On 08/03/2007, at 3:49 AM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
>
> But see, that's the point, I have written to Apple several times
> requesting that they atempt to make their Windows version of iTunes
> more friendly to screenreader users, and to date I haven't seen much
> action.  So, I have gotten to them and requested that some work be
> done.  True, most people won't, but I did, and all I got back was a
> big fat nothing in response.
>
> At 10:31 AM 3/7/2007, you wrote:
>> I think that comment to be extremely unfair, Apple put out a Windows
>> version of Itunes for the simple reason that not everyone uses or
>> wants to use a Mac and people have the right to use or not to use
>> what they want and Apple like the rest of us recognises that 90% of
>> computer users out there use Windows so it makes good marketing sense
>> to have Itunes working on a Windows platform.
>> Now something I'm extremely curious about, why is it that people
>> using PC's and Windows like to spend there time whining whilst people
>> using Apple Macs seem to be concentrate on writing constructive
>> letters to people and trying to get accessability issues sorted out
>> .
>>
>> On 08/03/2007, at 2:55 AM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
>>
>> Here here Jeff, couldn't agree with you more man. I think Apple put
>> out their Windows version of iTunes mainly so that they could say
>> they have a Windows version out, and they could give a crap less
>> about accessibility.
>> Yell and scream about how great it is Mac users, you finally got what
>> you wanted.  But I'm going to continue to hold Apple in contempt
>> until they produce a screenreader friendly version of iTunes.  When I
>> say "screenreader friendly", I mean a version that does not require
>> the use of scripts or set files to work.  Fat chance of that
>> happening...I'll believe it when it happens.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 09:24 AM 3/7/2007, you wrote:
>>> The proof is in the pudding.  Apple still hasn't gotten Windows Vista
>>> support done let alone accessibility, so I am sure it is merely a
>>> priority
>>> for the Mac platform more then it is for the Windows platform.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> audio.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 7:55 AM
>>> To: PC audio discussion list.
>>> Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple
>>>
>>> Better accessability for Itunes is being worked on. I'm not making
>>> excuses
>>> for Apple but everything takes time and I'm sure that Windows users
>>> will end
>>> up with a totally accessible version of Itunes before too long,
>>> just be
>>> patient, can't say too much right now.
>>> Why do Apple users make a thing about how accessible Itunes is?
>>> Because quite simply its worth making a thing about, its taken a
>>> while but
>>> Itunes has turned overnight from something which wasn't all that
>>> accessible
>>> at all (more near to totally inaccessible) to something which is
>>> getting to
>>> the point of being near totally accessible so that in itself is
>>> worth making
>>> a thing about plus the fact that all the hard work and all the
>>> correspondence between Apple and Voiceover users finally paid off,
>>> we now
>>> have a commitment on behalf of Apple that further development will
>>> continue
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> On 08/03/2007, at 12:28 AM, Stephen Guerra wrote:
>>>
>>> It appears that those who are using Macs are giving praise to Apple
>>> where I
>>> as a Windows user still as most find that Itunes is still lacking.
>>>
>>> Seems like any hint of an Apple user makes them scream that the
>>> little
>>> tidbit that Apple does is golden, well, its not and they are not,
>>> (meaning
>>> Apple) are Golden Delicious.
>>>
>>> More like rotten Macintosh!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Stephen A. Guerra
>>> Assistive Technology Specialist
>>> Independent Living Aids
>>>
>>> "Products for Your Active Independent Life!"
>>>
>>> 200 Robbins Lane
>>> Jericho, NY 11753
>>> Phone: (516) 937-1848-x313
>>>Fax: (516) 937-3906
>>>
>>> E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Skype: ILASteve
>>> Web Site:
>>> http://www.independentliving.com
>>> http://www.soundbytes.com
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-

Re: Hats Off to Apple

2007-03-07 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Chris and all,

Anytime we ask for something and the people on the other side ignore us 
completely, as though we do not exist, well, we have a legitimate gripe with 
such people.  That's exactly how Apple has treated us, in many cases, over 
the years.  I'm glad iTunes is now, finally, accessible.  Apple has finally 
made their own iTunes player and store accessible to its very own screen 
reader built into its own operating system for goodness sake.  It is about 
time!  I'm glad they finally did it, but I'm not sure they necessarily 
deserve the Accessibility Achievement of the Year or any similar such awards 
or praise.



- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Skarstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple


> But see, that's the point, I have written to Apple several times
> requesting that they atempt to make their Windows version of iTunes
> more friendly to screenreader users, and to date I haven't seen much
> action.  So, I have gotten to them and requested that some work be
> done.  True, most people won't, but I did, and all I got back was a
> big fat nothing in response.
>
> At 10:31 AM 3/7/2007, you wrote:
>>I think that comment to be extremely unfair, Apple put out a Windows
>>version of Itunes for the simple reason that not everyone uses or
>>wants to use a Mac and people have the right to use or not to use
>>what they want and Apple like the rest of us recognises that 90% of
>>computer users out there use Windows so it makes good marketing sense
>>to have Itunes working on a Windows platform.
>>Now something I'm extremely curious about, why is it that people
>>using PC's and Windows like to spend there time whining whilst people
>>using Apple Macs seem to be concentrate on writing constructive
>>letters to people and trying to get accessability issues sorted out
>>.
>>
>>On 08/03/2007, at 2:55 AM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
>>
>>Here here Jeff, couldn't agree with you more man. I think Apple put
>>out their Windows version of iTunes mainly so that they could say
>>they have a Windows version out, and they could give a crap less
>>about accessibility.
>>Yell and scream about how great it is Mac users, you finally got what
>>you wanted.  But I'm going to continue to hold Apple in contempt
>>until they produce a screenreader friendly version of iTunes.  When I
>>say "screenreader friendly", I mean a version that does not require
>>the use of scripts or set files to work.  Fat chance of that
>>happening...I'll believe it when it happens.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>At 09:24 AM 3/7/2007, you wrote:
>> > The proof is in the pudding.  Apple still hasn't gotten Windows Vista
>> > support done let alone accessibility, so I am sure it is merely a
>> > priority
>> > for the Mac platform more then it is for the Windows platform.
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > audio.org]
>> > On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 7:55 AM
>> > To: PC audio discussion list.
>> > Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple
>> >
>> > Better accessability for Itunes is being worked on. I'm not making
>> > excuses
>> > for Apple but everything takes time and I'm sure that Windows users
>> > will end
>> > up with a totally accessible version of Itunes before too long,
>> > just be
>> > patient, can't say too much right now.
>> > Why do Apple users make a thing about how accessible Itunes is?
>> > Because quite simply its worth making a thing about, its taken a
>> > while but
>> > Itunes has turned overnight from something which wasn't all that
>> > accessible
>> > at all (more near to totally inaccessible) to something which is
>> > getting to
>> > the point of being near totally accessible so that in itself is
>> > worth making
>> > a thing about plus the fact that all the hard work and all the
>> > correspondence between Apple and Voiceover users finally paid off,
>> > we now
>> > have a commitment on behalf of Apple that further development will
>> > continue
>> > etc.
>> >
>> > On 08/03/2007, at 12:28 AM, Stephen Guerra wrote:
>> >
>> > It appears that those who are using Macs are giving praise to Apple
>> > where I
>> > as a Windows user still as most find that Itunes is still lacking.
>> >
>> > Seems like any hint of an Apple user makes them scream that the little
>> > tidbit that Apple does is golden, well, its not and they are not,
>> > (meaning
>> > Apple) are Golden Delicious.
>> >
>> > More like rotten Macintosh!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Stephen A. Guerra
>> > Assistive Technology Specialist
>> > Independent Living Aids
>> >
>> > "Products for Your Active Independent Life!"
>> >
>> > 200 Robbins Lane
>> > Jericho, NY 11753
>> > Phone: (516) 937-1848-x313
>> >Fax: (516) 937-3906
>> >
>> > E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Skype: ILASteve
>> > Web Site:
>> > http://www.independentliving.com
>> > http://www.soundbytes.com
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message

Re: New version of itunes available.

2007-03-06 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Hank,

I've heard other reports that the player is accessible, but have you tried 
it with the iTunes Music Store yet?  Also, can you subscribe to and listen 
to podcasts?

- Original Message - 
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To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 5:26 AM
Subject: Re: New version of itunes available.


> haven't tried it with jaws
> it works good with the mac though
> was using it tonight
> osx tiger 10.4.8
> anyways there you are
>
> 73
> hank smith
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> - Original Message - 
> From: "joanne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 4:06 AM
> Subject: Re: New version of itunes available.
>
>
>>I thought Itunes was inaccessible with Jaws.  Does anyone use it as a
>> podcatcher?  I normally use Replay AV and am happy with it, but some 
>> shows
>> only seem to have an Itunes link.  Would like feedback about its
>> accessibility with podcasts.  Thanks.s
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "hank smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 5:39 AM
>> Subject: Re: New version of itunes available.
>>
>>
>>> there is a windows update as well 7.1
>>>
>>> 73
>>> hank smith
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>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 2:03 AM
>>> Subject: Re: New version of itunes available.
>>>
>>>
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Re: Replay AV 8

2007-01-25 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Yeah.  I guess the important thing is which elements are not accessible and 
how important are those.  Bummer.  Well, why am I not at all surprised?  :-(

- Original Message - 
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To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" 
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 2:30 PM
Subject: RE: Replay AV 8


> According to Mike Calvo who has one, he says it is 80% accessible.  Don't
> ask me for more details, I don't have them LOLOL.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Darrell Shandrow
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 12:05 PM
> To: PC audio discussion list.
> Subject: Re: Replay AV 8
>
> Hi Bob.  Yes.  That would be the DS-50.  Did you get a hands-on demo?  It 
> is
> supposed to contain some specific accessibility features making it usable
> for us.  Did you get a chance to try those?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 9:54 PM
> Subject: Re: Replay AV 8
>
>
>> Does anyone on the list know about the new Olimpus digital recorders? I
>> saw
>> one today that records up to 72 hours.
>> Unfortunately did not get the model number. It sells for about 300
>> dollars.
>>  Original Message - 
>> From: "Darrell Shandrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 6:39 AM
>> Subject: Re: Replay AV 8
>>
>>
>>>I believe they are both included.  Definitely Replay Converter is
>>>included.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
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>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 1:27 AM
>>> Subject: Replay AV 8
>>>
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>>>> Do MP3 Magic and Replay Converter come with v.8 or do you buy them
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Re: the new olympus digital recorders

2007-01-25 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Chris,

Perhaps, the reason is that the Olympus recorders save only in WMA format. 
In order to podcast or otherwise get a clear MP3 file, use of a utility like 
Replay Converter would be needed.

- Original Message - 
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To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 1:15 PM
Subject: the new olympus digital recorders


> hi.  Just changing the subject line here to better reflect the
> discussion. I'm curious as to how we went from Replay A/V 8 to the
> new olimpus digital recorders, but that's how it goes on these lists 
> sometimes.
>
> At 01:05 PM 1/25/2007, you wrote:
>>Hi Bob.  Yes.  That would be the DS-50.  Did you get a hands-on demo?  It 
>>is
>>supposed to contain some specific accessibility features making it usable
>>for us.  Did you get a chance to try those?
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 9:54 PM
>>Subject: Re: Replay AV 8
>>
>>
>> > Does anyone on the list know about the new Olimpus digital recorders? I
>> > saw
>> > one today that records up to 72 hours.
>> > Unfortunately did not get the model number. It sells for about 300
>> > dollars.
>> >  Original Message -
>> > From: "Darrell Shandrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 6:39 AM
>> > Subject: Re: Replay AV 8
>> >
>> >
>> >>I believe they are both included.  Definitely Replay Converter is
>> >>included.
>> >>
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>> >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 1:27 AM
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Re: Replay AV 8

2007-01-25 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Bob.  Yes.  That would be the DS-50.  Did you get a hands-on demo?  It is 
supposed to contain some specific accessibility features making it usable 
for us.  Did you get a chance to try those?

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Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: Replay AV 8


> Does anyone on the list know about the new Olimpus digital recorders? I 
> saw
> one today that records up to 72 hours.
> Unfortunately did not get the model number. It sells for about 300 
> dollars.
> ---- Original Message - 
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> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 6:39 AM
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>
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>>I believe they are both included.  Definitely Replay Converter is 
>>included.
>>
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>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 1:27 AM
>> Subject: Replay AV 8
>>
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2007-01-24 Thread Darrell Shandrow
I believe they are both included.  Definitely Replay Converter is included.

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Re: Replay AV 8.03 Podcasts sent to Blind Cool Tech

2007-01-18 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Stephen,

What he actually needs to do is get these episodes linked as individual 
posts on a blog then make sure that's distributed via an RSS feed.  I'm in 
private correspondence with Petro and I think we are working toward that 
goal now.

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Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:03 AM
Subject: RE: Replay AV 8.03 Podcasts sent to Blind Cool Tech


> You should think about merging all the files in to one large file as that
> indeed is a podcast, the pieces you have been putting out are episodes
>
>
>
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> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 5:56 PM
> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
> Subject: Replay AV 8.03 Podcasts sent to Blind Cool Tech
>
> Hi
> Earlier today I sent my podcasts to Blind Cool Tech via FTP and now it's 
> up
> to Larry to add the recordings to his Blind Cool Tech feed so you all can
> get my recordings by subscribing to teh Blind Cool Tech feed.
>
> I will continue to post to this list the URL for each podcast I have on
> Replay AV 8.03 as some of you do not use a podcatcher.
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Re: replay 8.03

2007-01-10 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Roger,

That's called WinPCap.

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Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 10:04 AM
Subject: replay 8.03


>i had installed replay 8.03 for a client and what was different about 7 as
> opposed to 8 was this new thing which was suppose to help one find streams
> more accurately. it was like a second installer popped up and they were
> using the nulsoft installer to run this small program. i sure cannot
> remember what it is called now but what happens if you do not choose to
> install it. they said it was a recommended install but one can sure opt 
> out
> of this secondary installer so, what was that small utility called again 
> and
> is it really necessary and what does it truly do for us with these web
> streams. again this is found in replay 8 . x versions. what do we really
> need it for just curious...
>
>
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Re: replay 8.03

2007-01-08 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Chris,

Not to mention that Replay Converter is included free of charge and is a 
great way to pretty quickly convert among different audio file formats.

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Skarstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: replay 8.03


> Hi.  Actually, there are a lot of reasons why 8.03 is better than
> 7.x, my favorite is the fact that the program  will wait longer
> before trying to give up on recording a stream.  If the stream dies,
> replay will wait longer before it gives up and says it can't
> record.  and for some folks with slower connections this can be a
> real bother since getting streaming audio over a slower connection is
> tougher to do sometimes.
>
> It also seems like it's easier to record different things with 8.03,
> but maybe that's just me.  Hey if you have 7.x it's only $9 to
> upgrade. Not bad.
>
>
> At 01:30 AM 1/8/2007, you wrote:
>>Please, will someone remind me why 8.3 is better than 7.x?
>>Thanks and apologies.
>>
>>   - Original Message -
>>   From: Chris Skarstad
>>   To: PC audio discussion list.
>>   Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 2:02 PM
>>   Subject: Re: replay 8.03
>>
>>
>>   Hi.  I would say that Replay A/V version 8.03 is *much* better than
>>   8.02.  You can certainly use 8.02, but it's a little more intensive
>>   on routing cursors, and let's face it, not everybody is good at
>>   that.  The folks at Aplian have made a significant jump with version
>>   8.03 of Replay A/V for the following reasons.
>>
>>   *You can press the space bar or enter key on a button and have it
>>   perform that action, as you were able  to do in version 7 and it
>>   works just as you might expect. If you did this in version 8.02, you
>>   would get an error message because the button you were on didn't
>> gain focus.
>>
>>   *They've introduced a menu bar with version 8 which may make things
>>   easier to find for some people.  So if yu're in the program, arrow
>>   through the choices and find out what's there.  Don't be scared to
>>   try any of them, they won't hurt your system in any way at all.
>>
>>   *the interface of the program is very similar to that of version 7,
>>   so if you know what you're doing with version 7 you should have no
>>   problems.  As far as importing things from version 7, it's imported
>>   all my shows with no problems whatsoever, the transition was smooth
>>   as you'd like.
>>
>>   I think the reason you got some .cap files was because the stream may
>>   have been dropped or  interrupted in some way.  Unfortunately with
>>   streaming audio, this is the nature of the beast, and outside of
>>   getting yourself the fastest connection possible, there isn't a
>> lot you can do.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   At 12:24 AM 1/7/2007, you wrote:
>>   >I am still using replay-7 because when 8 first came out I downloaded 
>> it
>>   >and had previously lost the file with all my programming.  (I got that
>>   >back because we had to run restore on my computer.  Because it was so
>>   >different I have stayed with 7 because it works, except for Kap files.
>>   >Should I stay with 7 or venture into 8?  I am mostly worried about my
>>   >program list, since it has 85 entries.  Also it seemed much more
>>   >difficulto record the programs with it.  By the way, has anybody else
>>   >noticed that sometimes you get mp3.xxx files?  Any suggestions or
>>   >recommendations?  Thanks.  Kurt
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Re: Replay AV

2007-01-07 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Catherine,

For recording streams, Replay A/V is much more capable than Total Recorder. 
It can record the stream by downloading directly to a file, thus usually not 
even requiring access to your sound card.  It also contains a media guide 
allowing you to easily find thousands of radio shows, radio stations, TV 
stations and podcasts.  The folks at Applian have also worked with the blind 
community to insure the accessibility of this software, so, IMHO, Replay A/V 
is a great investment!

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To: "PC Audio" 
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 9:57 AM
Subject: Replay AV


> Hi,
>
> I asked a couple of days ago about Total Recorder for recording streams.
> Now I've found this site in my favourites of a package called Replay AV
> which can also be used for recording streams.  I don't know where I got it
> from originally - it may have been this list.
>
> Does anyone here use Replay AV/heard of it, and if so can anyone say what
> the differences are between using TR and Replay AV?
>
> The url is
> http://www.applian.com/replay-av/index.php
>
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Re: Replay AV 8.03 & Resize Handle button

2007-01-04 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Petro,

We certainly do appreciate all effort that has gone into restoring the 
accessibility of this important software.  Thanks.

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Subject: Replay AV 8.03 & Resize Handle button


> The Resize handle button you hear within Replay AV 8.0+ is for
> sighted users only. It allows the user to change the program's
> UI size. This is what I was told by Applian Tech. We cannot use
> it. I hope all you appreciate my efforts to make this software
> accessible to you all. I believe its the best recording software
> for the blind pc user. Thank you, Petro.
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Re: The audio book radio network

2006-12-29 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi,

It is unfortunate that this web site features a number of significant 
accessibility problems.  For instance, there are numerous graphics missing 
their alt text tags and the program schedule is unreadable.  I have used 
their contact form to request accessibility improvements.


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Subject: Fw: The audio book radio network


>4 your info
> - Original Message - 
> Subject: [TABI] The audio book radio network
>
>
> Thought some of you would like to know that there's a 24x7 web site
> which continuously broadcasts the reading of popular audio books.  It's
> quite a nice little Christmas present to find this!!!
>
> http://www.audiobookradio.net/index.php
>
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Re: Replay AV 8.03 Great News

2006-12-29 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Any idea when 8.03 is going to be released?

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Subject: Replay AV 8.03 Great News


>I beta tested a few minutes ago Replay AV 8.03 and all the minor
> accessibility issues have been fixed. The Spacebar works on the
> User Interface: Minimize, Hide, Record, Exit - using the
> spacebar works now. The menu bar: File, Shows, Record and the
> others work as usual. Press Alt by itself or do Alt+F for file
> menu and so on. Alt+s for shows menu. The UI List box works as
> before. Use the applications key when you have selected an item
> in the List box and then choose the option you want in the
> context menu with either the enter key or shortcut letter. As
> for bugs in the software or functionality I have not encountered
> any errors yet. Post to this list if you see any issues and I
> will forward them to Applian Tech. Petro
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Re: Them little round plastic things

2006-12-29 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Steve,

I have heard that the Imic's audio quality is rather poor.  Is there any 
truth to this claim?  Are there a couple of different versions of this 
device?

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Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: Them little round plastic things


> On Mon, 4 Dec 2006 20:20:28 +1100, you wrote:
>
>>Hi all!
>>I'm a user of 2 very different computer systems here, I use standard
>>PC'S with Windows and LINUX and I use my trusty Mac so when I heard
>>about a small sound device that could be plugged into all my machines
>>without any need for drivers I was most interested hence the arrival
>>of my Imic today.
>
> I bought one of those from a local store about a year ago for $29 U.S.
> and love it to death.  I wish I could get a couple more, just to have
> them in reserve, just in case, but the supply seems to have dried up.
>
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Re: Speech software for the Treo Palm Pilot

2006-12-26 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi James,

Well, I believe those devices are now based on Windows Mobile 2003, so you 
could check out the MobileSpeak Pocket screen reader at 
http://www.codefactory.es.

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Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 5:42 AM
Subject: Speech software for the Treo Palm Pilot


> Hello Lists!
>
> For Christmas, my wife gave me a Treo Phone (Palm Pilot 1 Device [their 
> latest model]).  I've heard of Palm Pilots, but never used one.  My main 
> question is: "Is there any speech software available for this device?  I 
> installed the software and it has something called a "Palm Desktop" and 
> "Palm 1 Quick Install" on my desktop.  I think I can access the system 
> through these icons, but what about the phone itself?  This device has a 
> full keyboard, although very small keys, with a numpad directly in the 
> middle of the keyboard.  If anyone has this evice or has used it and know 
> about making it accessible, do let me know.  I've put juice to the battery 
> and getting ready to take a look at it today.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
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Re: Contacting a DJ on Myspace

2006-11-17 Thread Darrell Shandrow
Hi Peter,

Thanks.  I have made an initial attempt to have this matter addressed.  It 
may take some time, but I will give the company's staff to address it, 
escalating as needed if an appropriate response is not forthcoming.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

Darrell Shandrow - Shandrow Communications!
Technology consultant/instructor, network/systems administrator!
A+, CSSA, Network+!
Information should be accessible to us without need of translation by 
another person.
Blind Access Journal blog and podcast: http://www.blindaccessjournal.com
Sign the ProTools accessibility petition at http://protoolspetition.org 
today!
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Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 3:45 AM
Subject: Re: Contacting a DJ on Myspace


> OK.
> Below are copies of my two emails to them and their responses.
>
> Here is a copy of my origianal request via their "Support" link.
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: 11/4/2006 8:47:50 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Subject: Account - Cannot create
> 11/04/2006 08:40 PM CONTACT REQUEST FORM SUBMITTED
> ---Subject: Account - Cannot create
> Body:
> I am blind, and so cannot see the "graphic" security number
> on the page that I need to complete to create an account.
> Sometimes when a website has this, they provide an altrnative way though a
> link for the vision impaired. Please
> advise how I can join?
> Name: Peter Scanlon
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Here is their answer.
>
> - Original Message - 
>>From MySpace - AU - MSContact
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 2:03 PM
> Subject: Re: Account - Cannot create [#1176672]
>
> Dear MySpace.com User,
> Thank you for contacting MySpace.com Customer Support.
> Unfortunately, that option is not available. Sorry for the inconvenience.
> Sincerely,
> MySpace.com Customer Support Team
>
>
> My Response.
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: 11/10/2006 7:33:06 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Account - Cannot create [#1176672]
>
> I find this is discrimination.. Please advise how I can join Myspace or I
> shall seek advice as how to take action in regard to discrimination.
>
>
> Their response.
>
>
> From: MySpace - AU - MSContact <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Account - Cannot create [#1176672]
> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Nov 2006 03:49:32.0733 (UTC)
> FILETIME=[65CF06D0:01C70544]
>
>
> Hello,
>
> You can ask someone to help you with entering the code during the sign up
> process.
>
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