Re: [PD] Pure Data and Processing
Hi I've been working on this OSC protocol specially targeted at using Processing for the UI and Puredata for the sound generation. It is based on work by Fabian Ehrentraud. Here it is: http://gombology.net/ There are some examples and documentation, a processing library, Javadoc documentation for the Java/Processing API and also some known problems to discuss. best, Alvaro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] midi-out problem in jack/alsa
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Raphael Raccuia wrote: rectification: problem occurs also when DSP is off... i noticed something like that very recently as well. [ot] you have a weird mailer; indentation of quotes seems to be totally broken. that was definitely meant as a feature. since i noticed pretty soon that it can be avoiding as well (esp. when autoconnecting to the MIDI-thru) yes, especially midi-thru. I've just read the thread about autoconnect... the problem is simple: the default for dummy users should make all their midi gear appear on [midiin] and friends. so we want some way of autoconnection. when doing autoconnection we have zero possibilities to find out which device is useful and which is not; MIDI-thru makes most problems and you cannot reliably detect it (the name is arbitrary; the port is arbitrary as well); i have no idea why MIDI-thru is still so omnipreset: with alsa-seq you don't need it at all. , there is also a workaround: if you tell Pd to create to alsaseq ports (even if you only use one of them), it will not try to autoconnect. How can I do that? searched on the web, but nothing... try this: $ pd -help 21 | grep -i midi and _later_ this: $ pd -alsamidi -mididev 1,1 fgsadr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAksFDYMACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvQP1wCfbIE9L6XKRCxgwsnH2QUCPR5O QkgAn1fa7b8y8wSJDl7kRLDnzgtdATjC =bL8c -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd GST pdf not found
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 august wrote: Hi, I'm trying to look into pdGST bindings. Sehr cool, so gar uhr leiwand, heh! but, when I go here: http://umlaeute.mur.at/Members/zmoelnig/projects/pdgst/PdGst.pdf/view I get a site error. oops; seems my server is in a state of crashing. i hope i have backups. fmgar IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAksFEHIACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvS9mQCfWvuVHz5XD1sAP9EffBKoAH5g JegAoMQEnOSJiAJ4wZn6fpWYX5cbxzUD =VUwX -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd GST pdf not found
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 august wrote: Hi, also, does it work on a Mac? I ask not because I use one, but because I'd like to use it in an instructional demo this Friday where the lab is only outfitted with Macs. i actually never tried to compile it on anything but debian. but i don't expect too many problems. fadrtm IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAksFEQQACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvT8vgCgnNqS16caNW8a6XBEbaP2sxAJ vaQAoKsXM2LAqBjAgqFj+Fikb3rOizWo =85ZD -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pduino digital read problems
hi i am doing this small example to read a digital sensor with pduino. i test it with an arduino program that reads pin 2 and writes it to pin 13 and this works fine, i get a LED light on and off with my infrared sensor. however when i try this very same setup in PD i dont get it to work. i am starting up arduino object to the right COM port, i can write manually to pin 13 and the LED flashes, but i dont get anything from pin 2. I have not used digital sensors for ages with PD so i dont remember the right way to set them up. I send this message to arduino pinMode 2 0 i also tried sending before digitalIns 1 but nothing comes from comport outlet. so i am not sure what i am doing wrong please help! enrike ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Studies on sound
Hi list Well, the question is not that relevant with the list´s subject but i can not find another place to ask and i think many people from here would be able to answer. I am trying to find a master degree in digital music/digital sound, in Europe, in English Spanish or Greek. So i wanted to ask if someone knows which Institutes are considered good on this field. Thank you ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Studies on sound
Hi. In Spain there is this University. its in Barcelona. http://mtg.upf.edu/ http://www.upf.edu In Portugal, there is also a PhD in Computer Music. languages are English and Portuguese. http://www.artes.ucp.pt/si/doutoramento/index.html hope this help 2009/11/19 Konstantinos Benardis c.benar...@gmail.com Hi list Well, the question is not that relevant with the list´s subject but i can not find another place to ask and i think many people from here would be able to answer. I am trying to find a master degree in digital music/digital sound, in Europe, in English Spanish or Greek. So i wanted to ask if someone knows which Institutes are considered good on this field. Thank you ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd GST pdf not found
mm..sorry August, it was working few time ago and i didn't check properly. Anyway you should be able to read the paper IOhannes presented at Pd Convention in Brasil here: http://puredata.info/community/projects/convention09/zmolnig.pdf/view (even though it seems i have weird problems reading it (?)) M Message: 6 Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:31:30 +0100 From: IOhannes m zm?lnig zmoel...@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] pd GST pdf not found To: august aug...@alien.mur.at Cc: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: 4b051072.5030...@iem.at Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 august wrote: Hi, I'm trying to look into pdGST bindings. Sehr cool, so gar uhr leiwand, heh! but, when I go here: http://umlaeute.mur.at/Members/zmoelnig/projects/pdgst/PdGst.pdf/view I get a site error. oops; seems my server is in a state of crashing. i hope i have backups. fmgar IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAksFEHIACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvS9mQCfWvuVHz5XD1sAP9EffBKoAH5g JegAoMQEnOSJiAJ4wZn6fpWYX5cbxzUD =VUwX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Message: 7 Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:33:57 +0100 From: IOhannes m zm?lnig zmoel...@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] pd GST pdf not found To: august aug...@alien.mur.at Cc: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: 4b051105.2030...@iem.at Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 august wrote: Hi, also, does it work on a Mac? I ask not because I use one, but because I'd like to use it in an instructional demo this Friday where the lab is only outfitted with Macs. i actually never tried to compile it on anything but debian. but i don't expect too many problems. fadrtm IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAksFEQQACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvT8vgCgnNqS16caNW8a6XBEbaP2sxAJ vaQAoKsXM2LAqBjAgqFj+Fikb3rOizWo =85ZD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ___ Pd-list mailing list Pd-list@iem.at to manage your subscription (including un-subscription) see http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list End of Pd-list Digest, Vol 56, Issue 109 -- Marco Donnarumma aka The !S.A.D! Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Studies on sound
Hi Konstantinos, The Danish Royal Acadamy of Music in Aarhus might be what your looking for, especially if your focus is on music and composition: http://www.musik-kons.dk/english/study/e-music.php I know that several leading danish electronic music artists attended this school and higly recommends it. I hope my suggestion is not completely off. Otherwise I remember reading of several different educations in digital music/digital sound in London - but I can't recall the exact details. Good luck! Thomas Konstantinos Benardis wrote: Hi list Well, the question is not that relevant with the list´s subject but i can not find another place to ask and i think many people from here would be able to answer. I am trying to find a master degree in digital music/digital sound, in Europe, in English Spanish or Greek. So i wanted to ask if someone knows which Institutes are considered good on this field. Thank you ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] GUI switching control scenes
Hi list, i'm trying to understand how to build a user-friendly GUI within Pd and the lack of enough space to place all elements is always blocking me. Let's say i have my main interface (parent patch) 1024x768. All the surface is occupied by sound controls. Then i would like to have a toggle allowing me to switch among different scenes (i.e. sound control, OSC controls, audio generators, ecc..), but each scene should occupy the same space 1024x768 of the main interface in the main parent patch. I had a vague success juxtaposing GOP subpatches, but then what happens is that you want to move a slider in the upper subpatch but you can easily move also whatever GUI object lays below and this is obviously kinda too messy. I was wondering if there is a way to dinamically change the name of a subpatch while loaded, but i guess there should be simpler strategies... any idea? anybody did it already? thanks cheers -- Marco Donnarumma aka The !S.A.D! Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Studies on sound
http://www.ccmcm.ie/index.php?s=2 at the University of Limerick in Ireland. /Mikael On 19 Nov 2009, at 11:23, Konstantinos Benardis wrote: Hi list Well, the question is not that relevant with the list´s subject but i can not find another place to ask and i think many people from here would be able to answer. I am trying to find a master degree in digital music/digital sound, in Europe, in English Spanish or Greek. So i wanted to ask if someone knows which Institutes are considered good on this field. Thank you ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Studies on sound
Hi, I just moved in Edinburgh and wondering to apply for the Sound Design course here at university of Edinburgh. It's a course developed in conjunction with the informatics department (which seems to be really good here). You can check it here: http://sd.caad.ed.ac.uk/mscsounddesign/ check the link section related MSc courses they have also digital composition and performance and other courses. and http://iem.at our friends there rocks! :P but it's mainly in german. cheers M Message: 2 Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:23:09 +0100 From: Konstantinos Benardis c.benar...@gmail.com Subject: [PD] Studies on sound To: PD list pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: 17a357ee0911190323p652010b1je01dc5cf870b7...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi list Well, the question is not that relevant with the list?s subject but i can not find another place to ask and i think many people from here would be able to answer. I am trying to find a master degree in digital music/digital sound, in Europe, in English Spanish or Greek. So i wanted to ask if someone knows which Institutes are considered good on this field. Thank you -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20091119/f693f9c5/attachment-0001.htm -- Marco Donnarumma aka The !S.A.D! Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Netsend/receive crashes
We have discovered an issue with the netsend and/or netreceive objects. If a patch which is sending of receiving network data is closed with the connection still open and transmitting/receiving data at a high rate, it seems that the connection is sometimes not closed properly. If the same patch is reopened without closing PD sometimes the connection claims to be valid, as in it gives the error error: netsend_connect: already connected, but data will not transmit and closing the patch crashes PD. What could be causing the patch to close improperly? If you would like to try to recreate the error, I have included the text version of our test patch. After opening the patch, connect the netsend object and the toggle the metro on to send data. Without doing anything else to the patch, simply close it with the X in the top right corner. Then reopen the patch, without quitting PD and trying to connect the netsend object again. When we did this, it sometimes gave us an error and closing the patch killed PD. Sometimes it took a few times closing and reopening the patch for this to occur. Could this be a race condition when freeing objects in a patch? Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you. Our test patch: #N canvas 568 250 450 300 10; #X obj 105 179 netsend 1; #X obj 237 113 + 1; #X msg 237 91 1; #X floatatom 268 161 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 300 19 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X obj 147 144 prepend send; #X obj 101 207 netreceive 9997 1; #X obj 100 234 prepend set; #X msg 103 264 7101; #X obj 282 55 metro 10; #X msg 110 36 connect localhost 9997; #X connect 1 0 3 0; #X connect 1 0 5 0; #X connect 2 0 1 0; #X connect 3 0 1 1; #X connect 4 0 9 0; #X connect 5 0 0 0; #X connect 6 0 7 0; #X connect 7 0 8 0; #X connect 9 0 2 0; #X connect 10 0 0 0; ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GUI switching control scenes
Thanks JN, mm.. sorry dumb question, could you specify what you mean by different screen spaces? (better keep the conversation on the list so others can participate too) 2009/11/19 Jean-Noël Montagné j...@rom.fr did you try to work with diffrent screen spaces ( on linux and macosx) ? JN -- Marco Donnarumma aka The !S.A.D! Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GUI switching control scenes
Marco Donnarumma a écrit : Thanks JN, mm.. sorry dumb question, could you specify what you mean by different screen spaces? He means that on linux you can work on differents 'WorkSpaces' (*) and switch from one to another... (*) http://library.gnome.org/users/user-guide/stable/overview-workspaces.html.en I think what Marco is talking about is a kind of 'tab' macanism for pd gui... Is there any solution for this ?? pierre ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] default blocksize readsf
Hi, readsf~ has two arguments: The number of channels and a buffersize for storing data from the harddisk in a read buffer. I am interested in the initial value of this buffer when no argument is supplied. PP ypatios wrote: Hello :) Is there such an argument?? I think the HDD blocksize can only be set for the whole disk (during the formating process) and not for specific sectors or files. Unless i miss something.. alabala 2009/11/17 Peter Plessas ples...@mur.at Dear List, what is the default (disk) blocksize of the read/writesf~ objects when one doesn't supply an argument? Thanks! P ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] default blocksize readsf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Peter Plessas wrote: Hi, readsf~ has two arguments: The number of channels and a buffersize for storing data from the harddisk in a read buffer. I am interested in the initial value of this buffer when no argument is supplied. read the source luke: 262144 bytes per channel. fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAksFVREACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvTA3ACeNyNRKZhQCkvj3x6siyPnWeLn e3QAoO3m0ThwRGDDyDStnCUGBTCOdhzO =697x -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GUI switching control scenes
Ok, now I see JN, yes i know that, but i'm looking for a solution within Pd itself, using only one parent patch to include and visualize different subpatches alternatively. It's about usability of a software developed in Pd, not about my personal laptop's screen resolution. M 2009/11/19 Jean-Noël Montagné j...@rom.fr on linux and macos you can define many other workspaces to extend the size of your desk. on OSX, the software is spaces, JN Thanks JN, mm.. sorry dumb question, could you specify what you mean by different screen spaces? (better keep the conversation on the list so others can participate too) 2009/11/19 Jean-Noël Montagné j...@rom.fr did you try to work with diffrent screen spaces ( on linux and macosx) ? JN -- Marco Donnarumma aka The !S.A.D! Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GUI switching control scenes
I've done something like that on my gui-edit patch, on [jmmmp/gui-edit] or https://puredata.info/Members/jmmmp/gui-edit/view. but it was a very simple object. what you want is more complex, but maybe you can in some way make the [pos $1 $2( commands for the various setups you want more efficient. João Hi list, i'm trying to understand how to build a user-friendly GUI within Pd and the lack of enough space to place all elements is always blocking me. Let's say i have my main interface (parent patch) 1024x768. All the surface is occupied by sound controls. Then i would like to have a toggle allowing me to switch among different scenes (i.e. sound control, OSC controls, audio generators, ecc..), but each scene should occupy the same space 1024x768 of the main interface in the main parent patch. I had a vague success juxtaposing GOP subpatches, but then what happens is that you want to move a slider in the upper subpatch but you can easily move also whatever GUI object lays below and this is obviously kinda too messy. I was wondering if there is a way to dinamically change the name of a subpatch while loaded, but i guess there should be simpler strategies... any idea? anybody did it already? thanks cheers -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 Studio +49 30 69509190 jmmmp...@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Studies on sound
Geia sou Konstantine! Well I'm sure there are countless one around Europe, I know mostly about the ones in UK. The one proposed in Edinburgh is a good one, I'd say there is a good pool of students and there is also a good MSc in acoustics where Dr. Stefan Bilbao is specialising in physical modelling. Another one I know of is the MSc course run in the university of Huddersfield (close to Manchester) http://www2.hud.ac.uk/ce/musictech/ and there is a course also in the University of York (with a good tradition on 3D audio). http://www.york.ac.uk/inst/mustech/ A specialised Institute with MSc courses is SARC in Belfast, on all aspects of computer music, performance, interfaces etc... http://www.sarc.qub.ac.uk/ I'm sure there are some in London too, I've heard of Queen Mary course: http://www.elec.qmul.ac.uk/digitalmusic/ University Pompeau Fabra (see link above) should be excellent and it's the one where reactable was developed. There is also the Institute of Sonology in Hague with english speaking Msc (less computer/programming) http://www.koncon.nl/public_site/220/Sononieuw/UK/frameset-uk.html Greece, I don't think so, nothing dedicated to computer music yet, even though there are some strong professors in audio signal processing in the electronic engineering departments. I'm sure there will be good courses in Germany and France too but I'm not sure about the language. What about IEM itself (Graz, Austria)?? Is the Master only in German?? Scandinavian countries usually offer english-speaking courses and I'm sure there will be some good courses there. Good luck searching, Archontis 2009/11/19 Konstantinos Benardis c.benar...@gmail.com Hi list Well, the question is not that relevant with the list´s subject but i can not find another place to ask and i think many people from here would be able to answer. I am trying to find a master degree in digital music/digital sound, in Europe, in English Spanish or Greek. So i wanted to ask if someone knows which Institutes are considered good on this field. Thank you ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GUI switching control scenes
This might be useful http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2006-04/037439.html bot abstractions use this technique. You could have a parent abstraction containing gop subpatches, and then overlay them. Switch on/off their visibility with 'vis' property messages On 19 Nov 2009, at 14:32, Marco Donnarumma wrote: Ok, now I see JN, yes i know that, but i'm looking for a solution within Pd itself, using only one parent patch to include and visualize different subpatches alternatively. It's about usability of a software developed in Pd, not about my personal laptop's screen resolution. M 2009/11/19 Jean-Noël Montagné j...@rom.fr on linux and macos you can define many other workspaces to extend the size of your desk. on OSX, the software is spaces, JN Thanks JN, mm.. sorry dumb question, could you specify what you mean by different screen spaces? (better keep the conversation on the list so others can participate too) 2009/11/19 Jean-Noël Montagné j...@rom.fr did you try to work with diffrent screen spaces ( on linux and macosx) ? JN -- Marco Donnarumma aka The !S.A.D! Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] default blocksize readsf
2009/11/19 Peter Plessas ples...@mur.at Hi, readsf~ has two arguments: The number of channels and a buffersize for storing data from the harddisk in a read buffer. I am interested in the initial value of this buffer when no argument is supplied. PP Sorry, I misunderstood the question! ciao -- ypatios ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pow~, etc. in Pd-extended 0.42.5
about the library loading thing: is it possible to put vanilla loading before all other libraries as default? that should ensure vanilla-compatibility before anything else. IMHO there ideally shouldn't be overlap between vanilla and other libraries, at least in names, so that if someone comes out with some different really funky [dac~] they should call it [funkydac~] and not [dac~] but I may be wrong there. This makes me also think: for compatibility it might be interesting to think of some kind of 'dependency checking' aid for when one wants to distribute stuff, helping you check what additional stuff is needed rather than vanilla, especially for slightly bigger projects. Kind regards, Lorenzo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GUI switching control scenes
much thanks everybody for pointing out those examples, that's what i needed. I will be experimenting and posting some results. the [vis $1( approach looks promising, i have to test what about clicks in sound while using it in runtime with big GOP. If anybody has still other ideas about different approaches is more than welcome. talk soon, cheers Marco On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Si Mills smi...@rootsix.net wrote: This might be useful http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2006-04/037439.html bot abstractions use this technique. You could have a parent abstraction containing gop subpatches, and then overlay them. Switch on/off their visibility with 'vis' property messages On 19 Nov 2009, at 14:32, Marco Donnarumma wrote: Ok, now I see JN, yes i know that, but i'm looking for a solution within Pd itself, using only one parent patch to include and visualize different subpatches alternatively. It's about usability of a software developed in Pd, not about my personal laptop's screen resolution. M 2009/11/19 Jean-Noël Montagné j...@rom.fr on linux and macos you can define many other workspaces to extend the size of your desk. on OSX, the software is spaces, JN Thanks JN, mm.. sorry dumb question, could you specify what you mean by different screen spaces? (better keep the conversation on the list so others can participate too) 2009/11/19 Jean-Noël Montagné j...@rom.fr did you try to work with diffrent screen spaces ( on linux and macosx) ? JN -- Marco Donnarumma aka The !S.A.D! Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Marco Donnarumma aka The !S.A.D! Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GUI switching control scenes
another approach could be to make a very big gop with all your different workspaces in it. and then change the canvas offset parameters with [donecanvasdialog ...( to show only the part you have. that would in reality create workspaces in a big canvas. much thanks everybody for pointing out those examples, that's what i needed. I will be experimenting and posting some results. the [vis $1( approach looks promising, i have to test what about clicks in sound while using it in runtime with big GOP. If anybody has still other ideas about different approaches is more than welcome. talk soon, cheers Marco On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Si Mills smi...@rootsix.net wrote: This might be useful http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2006-04/037439.html bot abstractions use this technique. You could have a parent abstraction containing gop subpatches, and then overlay them. Switch on/off their visibility with 'vis' property messages On 19 Nov 2009, at 14:32, Marco Donnarumma wrote: Ok, now I see JN, yes i know that, but i'm looking for a solution within Pd itself, using only one parent patch to include and visualize different subpatches alternatively. It's about usability of a software developed in Pd, not about my personal laptop's screen resolution. M 2009/11/19 Jean-Noël Montagné j...@rom.fr on linux and macos you can define many other workspaces to extend the size of your desk. on OSX, the software is spaces, JN Thanks JN, mm.. sorry dumb question, could you specify what you mean by different screen spaces? (better keep the conversation on the list so others can participate too) 2009/11/19 Jean-Noël Montagné j...@rom.fr did you try to work with diffrent screen spaces ( on linux and macosx) ? JN -- Marco Donnarumma aka The !S.A.D! Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 Studio +49 30 69509190 jmmmp...@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pow~, etc. in Pd-extended 0.42.5
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lorenzo wrote: about the library loading thing: is it possible to put vanilla loading before all other libraries as default? that should ensure vanilla-compatibility before anything else. IMHO there ideally shouldn't be overlap between vanilla and other libraries, at least in names, so that if someone comes out with some different really funky [dac~] they should call it [funkydac~] and not [dac~] but I may be wrong there. that's debatable, but i think it's not the point. e.g. Pd sorely misses [pow~]. so somebody who needs it, writes an external [pow~]. at some point in time, an upstream author decides that it really would be a good idea of have [pow~] in Pd an includes it into vanilla. so what is the library author supposed to do? unwind the time? fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAksFeqcACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvQ6CgCaAjGWQxeMX8PxsBSzlH/Yc1VY ROwAoLkRx1tJ12UvEjJnqoPH3O6vjZ/k =Z4/0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pow~, etc. in Pd-extended 0.42.5
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Re: [PD] pduino digital read problems
If you look at the arduino-help.pd or arduino-test.pd, the message should be [digitalIns 1 1(. The first number is the port# and the second is whether to enable it or not. (PORT0==pins 0-7, PORT1==pins 8-13, PORT2==analog pins). If you are using Arduino 0017, you might want to upgrade the included Firmata library with the latest version (check the README for how) http://at.or.at/hans/pd/objects.html#pduino .hc On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:16 AM, altern wrote: hi i am doing this small example to read a digital sensor with pduino. i test it with an arduino program that reads pin 2 and writes it to pin 13 and this works fine, i get a LED light on and off with my infrared sensor. however when i try this very same setup in PD i dont get it to work. i am starting up arduino object to the right COM port, i can write manually to pin 13 and the LED flashes, but i dont get anything from pin 2. I have not used digital sensors for ages with PD so i dont remember the right way to set them up. I send this message to arduino pinMode 2 0 i also tried sending before digitalIns 1 but nothing comes from comport outlet. so i am not sure what i am doing wrong please help! enrike ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Computer science is no more related to the computer than astronomy is related to the telescope. -Edsger Dykstra ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GUI switching control scenes
hey thanks Joao, your last advice - [donecanvasdialog... ( - wins by now: - No pop-up needed (is it possible to have the same result of [vis $1( in a parent patch avoiding pop-up?) - get rid of scroll bars appearing here and there - clean and neat (push 4 buttons get 4 workspaces) - easy to implement the only slightly annoying stuff is that changing every time the GOP's offset, when you close the patch you are requested to save. Is there a workaround for this? Check the simplefast example attached. cheers M On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:24 PM, João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com wrote: another approach could be to make a very big gop with all your different workspaces in it. and then change the canvas offset parameters with [donecanvasdialog ...( to show only the part you have. that would in reality create workspaces in a big canvas. much thanks everybody for pointing out those examples, that's what i needed. I will be experimenting and posting some results. the [vis $1( approach looks promising, i have to test what about clicks in sound while using it in runtime with big GOP. If anybody has still other ideas about different approaches is more than welcome. talk soon, cheers Marco On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Si Mills smi...@rootsix.net wrote: This might be useful http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2006-04/037439.html bot abstractions use this technique. You could have a parent abstraction containing gop subpatches, and then overlay them. Switch on/off their visibility with 'vis' property messages On 19 Nov 2009, at 14:32, Marco Donnarumma wrote: Ok, now I see JN, yes i know that, but i'm looking for a solution within Pd itself, using only one parent patch to include and visualize different subpatches alternatively. It's about usability of a software developed in Pd, not about my personal laptop's screen resolution. M 2009/11/19 Jean-Noël Montagné j...@rom.fr on linux and macos you can define many other workspaces to extend the size of your desk. on OSX, the software is spaces, JN Thanks JN, mm.. sorry dumb question, could you specify what you mean by different screen spaces? (better keep the conversation on the list so others can participate too) 2009/11/19 Jean-Noël Montagné j...@rom.fr did you try to work with diffrent screen spaces ( on linux and macosx) ? JN -- Marco Donnarumma aka The !S.A.D! Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 Studio +49 30 69509190 jmmmp...@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp -- Marco Donnarumma aka The !S.A.D! Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net #N canvas 727 198 317 385 10; #N canvas 965 225 452 494 GOP 0; #X obj 0 0 cnv 15 200 200 empty empty one 20 12 0 14 -233017 -66577 0; #X obj 200 0 cnv 15 200 200 empty empty two 20 12 0 14 -128992 -66577 0; #X obj 0 200 cnv 15 200 200 empty empty three 20 12 0 14 -162280 -66577 0; #X obj 200 200 cnv 15 200 200 empty empty four 20 12 0 14 -66577 -228856 0; #X coords 0 -1 1 1 200 200 1 0 0; #X restore -75 79 pd GOP; #X obj -46 28 hradio 15 1 0 4 empty empty empty 0 -8 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0; #N canvas 135 89 324 216 code 0; #N canvas 234 215 435 247 gop-offset 0; #X obj 96 192 s pd-GOP; #X floatatom 96 69 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 96 90 t f b; #X obj 153 91 t f b; #X floatatom 153 69 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 96 24 inlet offset; #X obj 96 45 unpack f f; #X obj 96 139 pack f f; #X msg 96 168 donecanvasdialog 1 -1 1 0 -1 1 1 200 200 \$1 \$2; #X connect 1 0 2 0; #X connect 2 0 7 0; #X connect 2 1 7 0; #X connect 3 0 7 1; #X connect 3 1 7 0; #X connect 4 0 3 0; #X connect 5 0 6 0; #X connect 6 0 1 0; #X connect 6 1 4 0; #X connect 7 0 8 0; #X connect 8 0 0 0; #X restore -130 126 pd gop-offset; #X msg -130 97 0 0; #X msg -97 96 200 0; #X msg -53 96 0 200; #X msg -12 96 200 200; #X obj -130 72 sel 0 1 2 3; #X obj -130 48 inlet; #X connect 1 0 0 0; #X connect 2 0 0 0; #X connect 3 0 0 0; #X connect 4 0 0 0; #X connect 5 0 1 0; #X connect 5 1 2 0; #X connect 5 2 3 0; #X connect 5 3 4 0; #X connect 6 0 5 0; #X restore -46 48 pd code; #X text 7 349 Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD; #X text 7 362 2009; #X connect 1 0 2 0; ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pduino digital read problems
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: If you look at the arduino-help.pd or arduino-test.pd, the message should be [digitalIns 1 1(. The first number is the port# and the second is whether to enable it or not. (PORT0==pins 0-7, PORT1==pins 8-13, PORT2==analog pins). wouldn't it be nice to have the info in the brackets somewhere in the arduino-help? If you are using Arduino 0017, you might want to upgrade the included Firmata library with the latest version (check the README for how) http://at.or.at/hans/pd/objects.html#pduino .hc On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:16 AM, altern wrote: hi i am doing this small example to read a digital sensor with pduino. i test it with an arduino program that reads pin 2 and writes it to pin 13 and this works fine, i get a LED light on and off with my infrared sensor. however when i try this very same setup in PD i dont get it to work. i am starting up arduino object to the right COM port, i can write manually to pin 13 and the LED flashes, but i dont get anything from pin 2. I have not used digital sensors for ages with PD so i dont remember the right way to set them up. I send this message to arduino pinMode 2 0 i also tried sending before digitalIns 1 but nothing comes from comport outlet. so i am not sure what i am doing wrong please help! enrike ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Computer science is no more related to the computer than astronomy is related to the telescope. -Edsger Dykstra ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- ETs DNA will not be televised ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GUI switching control scenes
the only slightly annoying stuff is that changing every time the GOP's offset, when you close the patch you are requested to save. Is there a workaround for this? unfortunately not. donecanvasdialog makes the patch dirty. I've asked for it to be changed, but no reply. you try making pressure for that as well. João ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pduino digital read problems
I'm not sure what you mean, but Patches welcome! :-D .hc On Nov 19, 2009, at 1:44 PM, olsen wrote: wouldn't it be nice to have the info in the brackets somewhere in the arduino-help? Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: If you look at the arduino-help.pd or arduino-test.pd, the message should be [digitalIns 1 1(. The first number is the port# and the second is whether to enable it or not. (PORT0==pins 0-7, PORT1==pins 8-13, PORT2==analog pins). If you are using Arduino 0017, you might want to upgrade the included Firmata library with the latest version (check the README for how) http://at.or.at/hans/pd/objects.html#pduino .hc On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:16 AM, altern wrote: hi i am doing this small example to read a digital sensor with pduino. i test it with an arduino program that reads pin 2 and writes it to pin 13 and this works fine, i get a LED light on and off with my infrared sensor. however when i try this very same setup in PD i dont get it to work. i am starting up arduino object to the right COM port, i can write manually to pin 13 and the LED flashes, but i dont get anything from pin 2. I have not used digital sensors for ages with PD so i dont remember the right way to set them up. I send this message to arduino pinMode 2 0 i also tried sending before digitalIns 1 but nothing comes from comport outlet. so i am not sure what i am doing wrong please help! enrike ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Computer science is no more related to the computer than astronomy is related to the telescope. -Edsger Dykstra ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- ETs DNA will not be televised It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't have to examine our own lives., from The Idols of Environmentalism, by Curtis White ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pow~, etc. in Pd-extended 0.42.5
That doesn't take you far when your patches break because of changes. We can make a way where we aren't crippled by name conflicts. There are many examples to follow: Lua, Python, Tcl, etc. etc. etc. I tried to cover all the issues that I could find in my PdCon paper: http://at.or.at/hans/Let's_Make_Libraries_-_PdCon3.pdf .hc On Nov 19, 2009, at 12:08 PM, hard off wrote: vanilla pd should always have priority. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Programs should be written for people to read, and only incidentally for machines to execute. - from Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pduino digital read problems
aso it was a problem with the documentation. great, now it is working. thanks!! Hans-Christoph Steiner(e)k dio: If you look at the arduino-help.pd or arduino-test.pd, the message should be [digitalIns 1 1(. The first number is the port# and the second is whether to enable it or not. (PORT0==pins 0-7, PORT1==pins 8-13, PORT2==analog pins). If you are using Arduino 0017, you might want to upgrade the included Firmata library with the latest version (check the README for how) http://at.or.at/hans/pd/objects.html#pduino .hc On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:16 AM, altern wrote: hi i am doing this small example to read a digital sensor with pduino. i test it with an arduino program that reads pin 2 and writes it to pin 13 and this works fine, i get a LED light on and off with my infrared sensor. however when i try this very same setup in PD i dont get it to work. i am starting up arduino object to the right COM port, i can write manually to pin 13 and the LED flashes, but i dont get anything from pin 2. I have not used digital sensors for ages with PD so i dont remember the right way to set them up. I send this message to arduino pinMode 2 0 i also tried sending before digitalIns 1 but nothing comes from comport outlet. so i am not sure what i am doing wrong please help! enrike ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Computer science is no more related to the computer than astronomy is related to the telescope. -Edsger Dykstra ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Compiling pd svn on OSX 10.6
Hi all, i'm having problems compiling pd 0.42 on OSX 10.6 (Snow Leopard). At the first attempt, i got some errors with finding basic header files like stdlib.h. Turned out that the configure script contained a wrong -isysroot flag in this line: MORECFLAGS=-isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk The folder did not exists on my system, so i changed it to /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.6.sdk. After changing this, the compiler stops with the following error: ../portaudio/src/hostapi/coreaudio/pa_mac_core.c: At top level: ../portaudio/src/hostapi/coreaudio/pa_mac_core.c:2125: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘BlockWhileAudioUnitIsRunning’ ../portaudio/src/hostapi/coreaudio/pa_mac_core.c: In function ‘StopStream’: ../portaudio/src/hostapi/coreaudio/pa_mac_core.c:2157: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘BlockWhileAudioUnitIsRunning’ lipo: can't figure out the architecture type of: /var/folders/KX/KXFfopgIHmmf2rIFIKIJpE+++TI/-Tmp-//ccVrmJvS.out make: *** [../portaudio/src/hostapi/coreaudio/pa_mac_core.o] Error 1 Seems to be portaudio related, so i checked out the latest svn version of portaudio and compiled it separately, which works fine. Has anyone else encountered this issue? thanks, -robert ps: My compiler version: gcc --version i686-apple-darwin10-gcc-4.2.1 (GCC) 4.2.1 (Apple Inc. build 5646) (dot 1) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Compiling pd svn on OSX 10.6
Yes, recently, check the list archives. Basically, you need to update portaudio or use the pd-gui-rewrite branch. .hc On Nov 19, 2009, at 4:55 PM, Robert Gründler wrote: Hi all, i'm having problems compiling pd 0.42 on OSX 10.6 (Snow Leopard). At the first attempt, i got some errors with finding basic header files like stdlib.h. Turned out that the configure script contained a wrong -isysroot flag in this line: MORECFLAGS=-isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk The folder did not exists on my system, so i changed it to / Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.6.sdk. After changing this, the compiler stops with the following error: ../portaudio/src/hostapi/coreaudio/pa_mac_core.c: At top level: ../portaudio/src/hostapi/coreaudio/pa_mac_core.c:2125: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘BlockWhileAudioUnitIsRunning’ ../portaudio/src/hostapi/coreaudio/pa_mac_core.c: In function ‘StopStream’: ../portaudio/src/hostapi/coreaudio/pa_mac_core.c:2157: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘BlockWhileAudioUnitIsRunning’ lipo: can't figure out the architecture type of: /var/folders/KX/ KXFfopgIHmmf2rIFIKIJpE+++TI/-Tmp-//ccVrmJvS.out make: *** [../portaudio/src/hostapi/coreaudio/pa_mac_core.o] Error 1 Seems to be portaudio related, so i checked out the latest svn version of portaudio and compiled it separately, which works fine. Has anyone else encountered this issue? thanks, -robert ps: My compiler version: gcc --version i686-apple-darwin10-gcc-4.2.1 (GCC) 4.2.1 (Apple Inc. build 5646) (dot 1) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. - Benjamin Franklin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pduino digital read problems
Oops, yes indeed, I just updated that. I'm actually thinking that the digitalIns and analogIns messages are just extra complications without much benefit. I am thinking that setting pinMode to analog or input should just send that message too. How does that sound? .hc On Nov 19, 2009, at 3:13 PM, altern wrote: aso it was a problem with the documentation. great, now it is working. thanks!! Hans-Christoph Steiner(e)k dio: If you look at the arduino-help.pd or arduino-test.pd, the message should be [digitalIns 1 1(. The first number is the port# and the second is whether to enable it or not. (PORT0==pins 0-7, PORT1==pins 8-13, PORT2==analog pins). If you are using Arduino 0017, you might want to upgrade the included Firmata library with the latest version (check the README for how) http://at.or.at/hans/pd/objects.html#pduino .hc On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:16 AM, altern wrote: hi i am doing this small example to read a digital sensor with pduino. i test it with an arduino program that reads pin 2 and writes it to pin 13 and this works fine, i get a LED light on and off with my infrared sensor. however when i try this very same setup in PD i dont get it to work. i am starting up arduino object to the right COM port, i can write manually to pin 13 and the LED flashes, but i dont get anything from pin 2. I have not used digital sensors for ages with PD so i dont remember the right way to set them up. I send this message to arduino pinMode 2 0 i also tried sending before digitalIns 1 but nothing comes from comport outlet. so i am not sure what i am doing wrong please help! enrike ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Computer science is no more related to the computer than astronomy is related to the telescope. -Edsger Dykstra If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Pd Scene Change?
Hi Is there a way to make Pd behave similar to Isadora/SFX type products by having it step through different patches sequentially? Isadora uses jumps that are usually triggered by keyboard mappings, like space bar etc.. SFX uses a GO button which pretty much does the same thing stepping through CUEs when clicked. I would like to see if we could have 4 different pd patches and step through them with a keyboard or some external/HID input Has anyone done this already? I am assuming qlist, but I would love to see a working example before I try to reinvent the wheel. I have seen theatreMAX but that seemed more related to complex DMX lighting cues Thanks in advance pp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Pd Scene Change?
Howdy Patrick, From: Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu Date: November 19, 2009 11:30:36 PM GMT+01:00 To: PD List pd-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] Pd Scene Change? Is there a way to make Pd behave similar to Isadora/SFX type products by having it “step” through different patches sequentially? Isadora uses “jumps” that are usually triggered by keyboard mappings, like space bar etc.. SFX uses a “GO” button which pretty much does the same thing stepping through CUEs when clicked. I would like to see if we could have 4 different pd patches and step through them with a keyboard or some external/HID input Has anyone done this already? I am assuming qlist, but I would love to see a working example before I try to reinvent the wheel. I have a similar setup where a master playlist contains a list of song patches. I go from song to song by closing the current patch and loading the next. I haven't abstracted the playlist functionality yet, but I have made the patch open and close abstraction ... [rc-openclose]. The playlist is basically just a wrapper for a [coll] object. Transitions are rough (may cause clicks/dropouts), if anyone has a way to do a smooth transition when opening and closing a patch while audio is playing, please let me know. Check it out in http://danomatika.com/software/rc-patches/ ... Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd Scene Change?
On Nov 19, 2009, at 5:47 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote: Howdy Patrick, From: Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu Date: November 19, 2009 11:30:36 PM GMT+01:00 To: PD List pd-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] Pd Scene Change? Is there a way to make Pd behave similar to Isadora/SFX type products by having it “step” through different patches sequentially? Isadora uses “jumps” that are usually triggered by keyboard mappings, like space bar etc.. SFX uses a “GO” button which pretty much does the same thing stepping through CUEs when clicked. I would like to see if we could have 4 different pd patches and step through them with a keyboard or some external/HID input Has anyone done this already? I am assuming qlist, but I would love to see a working example before I try to reinvent the wheel. I have a similar setup where a master playlist contains a list of song patches. I go from song to song by closing the current patch and loading the next. I haven't abstracted the playlist functionality yet, but I have made the patch open and close abstraction ... [rc-openclose]. The playlist is basically just a wrapper for a [coll] object. Transitions are rough (may cause clicks/dropouts), if anyone has a way to do a smooth transition when opening and closing a patch while audio is playing, please let me know. Check it out in http://danomatika.com/software/rc-patches/ ... Load them all in advance, then use [switch~] to turn them on/off. .hc Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list [T]he greatest purveyor of violence in the world today [is] my own government. - Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pduino digital read problems
sounds ok to me but i use arduino very little so i my opinion should not count too much :) Hans-Christoph Steiner(e)k dio: Oops, yes indeed, I just updated that. I'm actually thinking that the digitalIns and analogIns messages are just extra complications without much benefit. I am thinking that setting pinMode to analog or input should just send that message too. How does that sound? .hc On Nov 19, 2009, at 3:13 PM, altern wrote: aso it was a problem with the documentation. great, now it is working. thanks!! Hans-Christoph Steiner(e)k dio: If you look at the arduino-help.pd or arduino-test.pd, the message should be [digitalIns 1 1(. The first number is the port# and the second is whether to enable it or not. (PORT0==pins 0-7, PORT1==pins 8-13, PORT2==analog pins). If you are using Arduino 0017, you might want to upgrade the included Firmata library with the latest version (check the README for how) http://at.or.at/hans/pd/objects.html#pduino .hc On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:16 AM, altern wrote: hi i am doing this small example to read a digital sensor with pduino. i test it with an arduino program that reads pin 2 and writes it to pin 13 and this works fine, i get a LED light on and off with my infrared sensor. however when i try this very same setup in PD i dont get it to work. i am starting up arduino object to the right COM port, i can write manually to pin 13 and the LED flashes, but i dont get anything from pin 2. I have not used digital sensors for ages with PD so i dont remember the right way to set them up. I send this message to arduino pinMode 2 0 i also tried sending before digitalIns 1 but nothing comes from comport outlet. so i am not sure what i am doing wrong please help! enrike ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Computer science is no more related to the computer than astronomy is related to the telescope. -Edsger Dykstra If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] midi-out problem in jack/alsa
IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Raphael Raccuia wrote: rectification: problem occurs also when DSP is off... i noticed something like that very recently as well. [ot] you have a weird mailer; indentation of quotes seems to be totally broken. [ot] ??? it's thunderbird and seems to work fine that was definitely meant as a feature. since i noticed pretty soon that it can be avoiding as well (esp. when autoconnecting to the MIDI-thru) yes, especially midi-thru. I've just read the thread about autoconnect... the problem is simple: the default for dummy users should make all their midi gear appear on [midiin] and friends. so we want some way of autoconnection. when doing autoconnection we have zero possibilities to find out which device is useful and which is not; MIDI-thru makes most problems and you cannot reliably detect it (the name is arbitrary; the port is arbitrary as well); i have no idea why MIDI-thru is still so omnipreset: with alsa-seq you don't need it at all. ok , there is also a workaround: if you tell Pd to create to alsaseq ports (even if you only use one of them), it will not try to autoconnect. How can I do that? searched on the web, but nothing... try this: $ pd -help 21 | grep -i midi and _later_ this: $ pd -alsamidi -mididev 1,1 -alsamidi was already in my pd launcher, so I added -mididev 1,1 (and then in .pdsettings): works great, I have now two midi clients in alsa-tab (ch 1-16 17-32) and no graph connection change I still don't understand what 1,1 means. Thank's for your help! cheers r fgsadr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAksFDYMACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvQP1wCfbIE9L6XKRCxgwsnH2QUCPR5O QkgAn1fa7b8y8wSJDl7kRLDnzgtdATjC =bL8c -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Vanilla [list-s2l] prototype
SplitTheAtoms = 16ms VanillaRulz = 27ms Teddy = 23ms 1234 = 140ms PdIsGreat = 30ms using tclpd: under 0.05 ms for any of those. size of the external: about 260 bytes. and no symbol-table pollution, no memory leak. I think this might underline how useful it would be for those of us who use vanilla Pd to have some symbol manipulation tools in vanilla, although I'm not convinced that I'm doing the symbol2list in the best way for vanilla either (I used to think it couldn't be done at all). Matt ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd Scene Change?
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009, Dan Wilcox wrote: On Nov 20, 2009, at 12:05 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Transitions are rough (may cause clicks/dropouts), if anyone has a way to do a smooth transition when opening and closing a patch while audio is playing, please let me know. IIRC, someone made a change to pd's source code that can make every patch cached into a t_binbuf, so as to eliminate all blocking disk accesses and reparsings. It didn't make it into any branch of pd though. It doesn't remove all of the latency, but it would be most of it, and it could be enough reduction of latency to satisfy you. But you'd have to try. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd Scene Change?
On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:29 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Fri, 20 Nov 2009, Dan Wilcox wrote: On Nov 20, 2009, at 12:05 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Transitions are rough (may cause clicks/dropouts), if anyone has a way to do a smooth transition when opening and closing a patch while audio is playing, please let me know. IIRC, someone made a change to pd's source code that can make every patch cached into a t_binbuf, so as to eliminate all blocking disk accesses and reparsings. It didn't make it into any branch of pd though. It doesn't remove all of the latency, but it would be most of it, and it could be enough reduction of latency to satisfy you. But you'd have to try. For me, loading soundfiles into arrays is a big one, so this wouldn't help that. It would be nice to have a a background soundfiler... I just that's the idea of that threaded soundfiler... .hc http://at.or.at/hans/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd Scene Change?
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: For me, loading soundfiles into arrays is a big one, so this wouldn't help that. It would be nice to have a a background soundfiler... I just that's the idea of that threaded soundfiler... It seems like you could have an asynchsoundfiler object that resizes the array if applicable, puts the array into shared memory, forks a new process which fills the array, and then emits a bang when the process exits. The only inconsistency you would be looking at resource wise would be a partially filled array, which could cause an audio glitch, but the person using the object could avoid inconsistencies by not using the array until the bang comes out. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd Scene Change?
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, Justin Glenn Smith wrote: It seems like you could have an asynchsoundfiler object that resizes the array if applicable, puts the array into shared memory, forks a new process which fills the array, and then emits a bang when the process exits. It already exists since a long time. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Vanilla [list-s2l] prototype
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, Matt Barber wrote: I think this might underline how useful it would be for those of us who use vanilla Pd to have some symbol manipulation tools in vanilla, It's useless to underline it more than it's been underlined before. Just stop using vanilla. This fixes the problem. Games like you've done can be fun though. I've had fun with the [list-drip] speed hacks in february. But it was only a game. In real life I use [foreach], which is written in C++, and it works fine and faster than what's possible to do as a regular Pd patch. The game was only for testing limits and demonstrating unusual techniques (i mean techniques that are unusual in the context of pd; they may be commonplace in some other programming language). _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Vanilla [list-s2l] prototype
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, Matt Barber wrote: I think this might underline how useful it would be for those of us who use vanilla Pd to have some symbol manipulation tools in vanilla, It's useless to underline it more than it's been underlined before. Just stop using vanilla. This fixes the problem. I agree -- I don't use vanilla myself, but I know a lot of people do. As you suggest it's useful for testing the limits -- the sorting algorithms I implemented a year ago ([list-shellsort] in list-abs is one of them) are in this class of objects. I also think they're useful for teaching students who are intimidated by written code (almost all of my students are classically-trained composers) some things about algorithmic thinking. By underlining, I mean sometimes you don't know just how badly it's missing until you try to do it in Pd and check the results against the compiled libraries. [list-l2s] will never be as fast as [list2symbol] from zexy... etc. MB Games like you've done can be fun though. I've had fun with the [list-drip] speed hacks in february. But it was only a game. In real life I use [foreach], which is written in C++, and it works fine and faster than what's possible to do as a regular Pd patch. The game was only for testing limits and demonstrating unusual techniques (i mean techniques that are unusual in the context of pd; they may be commonplace in some other programming language). ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
