OT: This Pentax classified ad made me laugh

2001-06-21 Thread Rob Studdert

http://www.tradingpost.com.au/search-
results/ad_view/1,,,00.html?CD_CPD=%21trvC4b3nskdtCD_NPD=%21trOu
9DvVNIVQitemNum=13

Might have to cut and paste the URL.

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Pretty pictures

2001-06-21 Thread mike wilson

Hi,

If anyone wants to see some shots made with the 31mm Ltd or a
comparison shot of the MZ-S/Z1-P, please mail me OFF LIST (sorry
for shouting).

They are just snapshots of a bridge in St Petersburg at fully
open and closed aperture.  Total of 250Kb for all three.  Bit of
operator error (left the date [not data] imprinting on on the
MZ-S, although I was sure it was off) and some scanning
artefacts.

Replies to the list will not be answered.

mike
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31mm Ltd evaluation

2001-06-21 Thread mike wilson

Hi all,

Quick  dirty, part of a private mail to a PDML member:

Seems to be an excellent performer.  Very little vignetting, no
obvious colour cast, astonishing flare resistance, bright look
in the viewfinder, fast and quiet in AF, easy to focus in MF,
high resolution.

Negatives: big, silver, expensive.

Seems to have a fixed hood and the lens cap pushes on over it. 
The cap is lined with green velvet and I suspect that, over
time, this would become quite loose.  Feels good when it is
new.

mike
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Voigtlaender vs Pentax

2001-06-21 Thread Francis Tang

Dear Arnold, and the other PDMLers,

On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 05:56:39AM +0200, Arnold Stark wrote:

[ Useful advice about where to buy cameras in Germany snipped. ]

  Sorry if I've offended the Pentax users here, but my lust for wider lenses has 
driven me to the option of range-finder-style cameras.  But fear not, I do own two ME 
Supers, one MX, winders for all three, plus eight SMC Pentax lenses.
 
 New Voigtländer wide angles are not necessarily cheaper than used Pentax ones.

Well, in the UK, I can get Voigtlaender Bessa L (the one without rangefinder - 
actually the light-tight box with a shutter and a screw thread) plus the 15mm lens for 
450ukp.  I don't think at these focal lengths I'd really benefit from an SLR.  I 
mainly shoot from the hip with the SMC A 24/2.8 (actually, from the knees!) and I 
imagine it would be similar with a 15mm.  I can pop a level into the accessory shoe 
and keep the viewfinder in my pocket.

But I'm torn - I love my Pentax cameras dearly!

Yours sincerely,

Frank.

-- 
Francis Tang, Postgraduate Research Student, LFCS, Edinburgh.
Visiting: AG14, FB Mathematik, TU Darmstadt, Deutschland.
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Re: Where German PDMLers shop their camera gear

2001-06-21 Thread Martin Trautmann

On Thu 2001-06-21 (05:56), Arnold Stark wrote:
 Hello Francis Tang,
 
  I guess I must have been unlucky because Darmstadt doesn't seem to have many good 
camera stores. (Noone here's heard of the Voigtlaender!)
 
 Maybe Darmstadt does not ahve many good camera stores, but Frankfurt is not far 
away, and you should be more lucky there.

Hm, Darmstadt is famous for Jugenstil, but not for cameras. In fact I
would not know the best shop there, although I've been working there for 5
years. I'd recommend the shop at the eastern exit of the Luisenplatz
(that's this one with the statue of Ludwig on a high pillar).

At least they offer a big second hand market their twice a year. I did not
have any contact, but there's a good club who might have helped you.

Voigtlaender should be known in every good shop, although they are out of
market mostly everywhere (old cameras, now mainly reseller of lenses,
cheap cameras or flims - do they actually build anything on their own? I
considered them as a low quality seller nowadays). 

In fact the same is true for Pentax :-( 
Most shops offer Nikon and Canon, while only few offer another brand, such
as Minolta/Pentax/Olympus/Leica...

Prices in Germany are high for cameras, so there's no real cheap offer.
What you may get cheaply is some equipment from Russia (some lenses) or
Tschechien (Tchecia? bw-paper, films) which I purchased at Fotostube
Weiden (now Foto Brenner, http://www.fotobrenner.de/) - this shop is good
for extra equipment and workshop, but not for cameras. They offer e.g.
cheap 6x6 cameras, panorama cameras ot other weird stuff - put since you
stick to Pentax, this may be of minor interest to you ;-)

I purchased my MZ-5N at Foto Koch (Duesseldorf, http://www.foto-koch.de/),
while another online seller, apart from technik-direkt is e.g.
Oehling http://www.oehling.de/ (more high-end and digital), 
New York Camera (http://www.ny-camera.com) or 
Foto Brinker (http://www.fotoversand-brinker.de/ 
 cheap, but sometimes unclear quality).

When you look at the German FAQs, http://www.drf-faq.de , you'll find a
link to even more shops: http://home.t-online.de/home/TFrank/fotoversender.htm

In fact this is one of the excellent source when you have questions to
photographie in Germany: news:de.rec.fotografie , a high volume newsgroup,
but very well kept.

HTH
Martin
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Re: Question about ZX5n Focusing Screen

2001-06-21 Thread Alan Chan

Having grown up on a Super Program which has been replaced with a ZX-5n, 
I've always wanted to replace the focusing screen on the ZX-5n.  Is it 
really feasible to use the ZX-M screen on a ZX-5n?  I would be very 
interested in this repair.

I believe so.

regards,
Alan Chan

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Overlapping frames on MZ-S

2001-06-21 Thread mike wilson

Hi,

Last two frames on the roll of EBX I put through were overlapped
by more than half.  Anyone else had this problem?

mike
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RE: Overlapping frames on MZ-S

2001-06-21 Thread Paris, Leonard

Sounds like the camera tried to get an extra frame or two out of the roll.
How many exposures did you get?

Len
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 From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 5:26 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Overlapping frames on MZ-S
 
 
 Hi,
 
 Last two frames on the roll of EBX I put through were overlapped
 by more than half.  Anyone else had this problem?
 
 mike
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Re: Traveling in Deutschland

2001-06-21 Thread Kristian-H. Schüssler


- Original Message -
From: Francis Tang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: Traveling in Deutschland


 Dear Francis,
living in a very little town in
SCHWARZWALD
(= Black Forrest)  I call with people  of BRENNER
(Mr.Fürbringer or Mr.Pospiech) 0961 / 6 70 60 40 and order
most cameras, Films and so on by
BRENNER Foto Versand  (www.alles-foto.de  und
[EMAIL PROTECTED])
A three-monthly catalogue (234 pages) is free of charge.
BRENNER Is located in Bavaria at Weiden.
10 000 items are in every catalogue, Voigtlaender Bessa
cameras
naturally too.

In July/August we will be for three weeks in Scotland.

Sincerely Yours
Kristian-Heinrich



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RE: OT: This Pentax classified ad made me laugh

2001-06-21 Thread admin

URL didn't work for me (even after cutting and pasting it together).

-- Original Message --

http://www.tradingpost.com.au/search-
results/ad_view/1,,,00.html?CD_CPD=%21trvC4b3nskdtCD_NPD=%21trOu
9DvVNIVQitemNum=13

Might have to cut and paste the URL.

Cheers,


Rob Studdert
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A question of perspective

2001-06-21 Thread Collin Brendemuehl

This question is just out of curiosity:
For those who use 645/67 lenses on 35mm bodies
(probably only a couple), do you find that your
images have a flatter field?  That is, do they
look more natural because of the greater lens
coverage?

Collin

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Re: Colour-presentation of Pentax lenses compared to Other Brands

2001-06-21 Thread Aaron Reynolds



Hugo Kok wrote:
 
 What I did now as an experiment is: loaded Velvia (from my own stock,
 from the same batch) in my friend's and my own camera and shot the same
 subjects (again as in Norway) and have it developed at the same lab -
 actually like Alin proposed. I will post the results of test films as
 soon as we (the more observants the better to reach intersubjectivity)
 analysed them.

Thanks, this'll give us some data we can really work with.  I'm curious
to see the results!

-Aaron

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Re: Lightning

2001-06-21 Thread Aaron Reynolds



D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote:

 This is what an LX is for, right?

That is EXACTLY what an LX is for. :)

I made a series of amusing self portraits while on a long drive in the
car at night...I put my 24mm on the LX, stopped it down to f22 and put
it on auto, set the camera on the dash and tripped the shutter.  Oh, I
was in the passenger seat, for the safety-conscious out there.

Anyhow, the images are goofily fantastic.  The exposures ranged from ten
minutes to nearly half an hour.

-Aaron


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80-320 lens purchase question

2001-06-21 Thread Tony Iallonardo

Hi: 

I could use some advise.  BH has what seems like 2 very similar Pentax
lenses.  The only differences I can tell are price and catalog number and
one is called silver. 

They list a Zoom Tele 80-320mm f/4.5-5.6 Lens SMCP-FA Auto Focus Lens with a
catalog number 27607 for $279.95

and a 

Zoom Tele 80-320mm f/4.5-5.6 SMCP-FA Auto Focus Lens (Silver) with a catalog
number 27608  for $189.95

Is there a difference here, and is one better for my zx5n?  It's very
tempting just to get the cheaper lens.

Any advice much appreciated.



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RE: A question of perspective

2001-06-21 Thread admin

Another question about the 645 lens adapter for k-mount bodies: Is it still
available? (And if so, how much does it cost?)

Now here's the interesting part: Since the 645 lenses project a much larger
image circle than k-mount (35mm) lenses, I'm thinking about having a machinist
make or modify me a 645-to-k adapter with shift capabilities. Any 645 lens
would become a shift lens when mounted on a 35mm body. The 35mm, 45mm and
75mm 645 lenses would be the most useful, I expect.



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Re: 80-320 lens purchase question

2001-06-21 Thread Alin Flaider


  Tony, people say the only difference is colour and BH simply
  got a good discount on a large purchase. Never having the
  opportunity to handle the black one, I wonder if it's inner tube has
  the same soldered cardboard appearance as does my silver sample.
  
  That said, it handles well and optically is better than its
  detractors usually say. 

  Servus, Alin

Tony wrote:

TI I could use some advise.  BH has what seems like 2 very similar Pentax
TI lenses.  The only differences I can tell are price and catalog number and
TI one is called silver. 

TI They list a Zoom Tele 80-320mm f/4.5-5.6 Lens SMCP-FA Auto Focus Lens with a
TI catalog number 27607 for $279.95

TI and a 

TI Zoom Tele 80-320mm f/4.5-5.6 SMCP-FA Auto Focus Lens (Silver) with a catalog
TI number 27608  for $189.95

TI Is there a difference here, and is one better for my zx5n?  It's very
TI tempting just to get the cheaper lens.

TI Any advice much appreciated.


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RE: 80-320 lens purchase question

2001-06-21 Thread Rob Brigham

Hope I dont get flamed...

As far as I know they are one and the same, there is certainly only a
silver one listed on the Pentax website.  This is probably a mistake on
BHs part.

However, general consensus is that this lens isnt great, certainly not
par 180mm or so, and that the Sigma 70-300 is a better choice.  Plus the
Sigma has a macro facility to boot.  It is also cheaper at $169 form
BH.

Rob Brigham

-Original Message-
From: Tony Iallonardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 21 June 2001 14:54
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 80-320 lens purchase question


Hi: 

I could use some advise.  BH has what seems like 2 very similar Pentax
lenses.  The only differences I can tell are price and catalog number
and
one is called silver. 

They list a Zoom Tele 80-320mm f/4.5-5.6 Lens SMCP-FA Auto Focus Lens
with a
catalog number 27607 for $279.95

and a 

Zoom Tele 80-320mm f/4.5-5.6 SMCP-FA Auto Focus Lens (Silver) with a
catalog
number 27608  for $189.95

Is there a difference here, and is one better for my zx5n?  It's very
tempting just to get the cheaper lens.

Any advice much appreciated.



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Anyone want a 1000mm F8 screwmount

2001-06-21 Thread Cameron R. Hood

   A local shop has 2 of them, in great shape, with the big  heavy metal
case. They were used by CLEU (Coordinated Law Enforcement Unit) our
equivalent of SWAT,  so they have obviously been used for surveillance.
Email me privately if interested.

Cameron 

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Standard lens - 35 mm vs 50mm

2001-06-21 Thread ZRouth

Just Curious! How many of you use 35 mm lens as a standard lens instead of 50 mm lens? 
Since I bought FA 35 f2.0, I have used this lens more often than  FA 50 mm f1.7 lens. 
With thanks
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RE: 80-320 lens purchase question

2001-06-21 Thread Bucky

The two lenses are the same as far as I know...not a bad lens, especially at
the price.  There's something obscene about the look of it as it zooms
(you'll see what I mean when you get it home).  My only gripes about the one
I had were that the front element rotates and that the zoom creeps like
crazy when you carry it about.  It's a bit soft at longer focal lengths, but
it's not serious in view of the price of the lens and has to be expected.

As for your 5n, the silver one will match better (if you care about that),
but optically and from a build quality standpoint, they are identical
lenses.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tony Iallonardo
Sent: June 21, 2001 06:54
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 80-320 lens purchase question


Hi:

I could use some advise.  BH has what seems like 2 very similar Pentax
lenses.  The only differences I can tell are price and catalog number and
one is called silver.

They list a Zoom Tele 80-320mm f/4.5-5.6 Lens SMCP-FA Auto Focus Lens with a
catalog number 27607 for $279.95

and a

Zoom Tele 80-320mm f/4.5-5.6 SMCP-FA Auto Focus Lens (Silver) with a catalog
number 27608  for $189.95

Is there a difference here, and is one better for my zx5n?  It's very
tempting just to get the cheaper lens.

Any advice much appreciated.



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Sharpness of FA 35mm f2.0 vs FA 50 mm f1.7

2001-06-21 Thread ZRouth

Greetings! I have both these lenses. It seems to me both are equally sharp. What is 
your opinion? With thanks.
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Re: Colour-presentation of Pentax lenses compared to Other Brands

2001-06-21 Thread Cameron R. Hood

My most profound revelation on colour casts in lenses happened when I
got my first ED (F*-FA*) lens. All of my shots on non-ED glass looked like
silly little snapshots, with highly unrealistic colour. The ED glass
focusses all of the colours on the same point (plane), yeilding a marvelous
rendition withh accurate, saturated, and in-focus colours.  I then traded in
all of my other lenses on the high-end stuff, and now own a FA*24 f2, an FA*
28-70 f2.8, an FA*85 f1.4, and the fabulous F* 300 f4.5. They really do make
a huge difference, especially in the colour department.


Cameron

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Re: Wolf Camera Filing for Bankruptcy (Chapter 11)

2001-06-21 Thread aimcompute

I has to be because I don't shop there!

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: Wolf Camera Filing for Bankruptcy (Chapter 11)


 
 --- Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  They blame the
  problems on the 1998 acquisition of Fox Photo from
  Eastman Kodak.
 
 Gee, it's not because their prices are a ~teeny~ bit
 outrageous? :)
 
 Nick
 
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Re: Standard lens - 35 mm vs 50mm

2001-06-21 Thread Chris Brogden

On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just Curious! How many of you use 35 mm lens as a standard lens
 instead of 50 mm lens? Since I bought FA 35 f2.0, I have used this
 lens more often than FA 50 mm f1.7 lens. With thanks

I'm not a huge fan of the standard 50/55mm lens, actually.  Last time I
shot with my SV I used the 35mm f2.  It worked better for landscape-type
photos and let me include more of the environment in my people
shots.  It's the old time and a place for everything deal.  Sometimes
50mm is the right focal length, or I just need the speed.

chris

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High Sync flash checkout with the MZ-S.

2001-06-21 Thread Matamoros, Cesar A.

I did not save the message, but someone commented that you could not
set the shutter speed faster than 1/180 with RTF up.  This is correct in its
default setting.

However, by setting the flash mode to High Sync Wireless (using the
flash-function button and the select dial) you can set the shutter speed
faster with the RTF up.  The flash does fire even with the shutter speed set
to 1/6000.

I am willing to check to see how this works with the flash, but I
don't know what would be a good procedure.  Please let me know and I will do
my best to let everyone know the results.

César Matamoros II
Panama City, Florida


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RE: Colour-presentation of Pentax lenses compared to Other Brands

2001-06-21 Thread Bucky

Yeah, I agree, those lenses are stellar, although I only have the FA*24 f/2.
They're so expensive, I have to find things to sell or trade in when I see
one I want.  Unfortunately, by the time I can scrape together the cash,
they're usually sold.

If anyone has a whole series of FA* lenses they want to trade for an
autographed Pia Zadora 8x10 or a complete set of Leonard Maltin action
figures, please email off-list.  Hee.

I was at a garage sale last week and the woman had a single M 135 f/3.5 in a
case; I almost missed it.  I held it up to the light; the thing was so full
of fungus it was amazing.  I left it where it was.  I have this fantasy of
finding such a sale where someone is dumping all this Pentax stuff for
really cheap.  So far, it remains a fantasy.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cameron R. Hood
Sent: June 21, 2001 09:02
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Colour-presentation of Pentax lenses compared to Other
Brands


My most profound revelation on colour casts in lenses happened when I
got my first ED (F*-FA*) lens. All of my shots on non-ED glass looked like
silly little snapshots, with highly unrealistic colour. The ED glass
focusses all of the colours on the same point (plane), yeilding a marvelous
rendition withh accurate, saturated, and in-focus colours.  I then traded in
all of my other lenses on the high-end stuff, and now own a FA*24 f2, an FA*
28-70 f2.8, an FA*85 f1.4, and the fabulous F* 300 f4.5. They really do make
a huge difference, especially in the colour department.


Cameron

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Re: High Sync flash checkout with the MZ-S.

2001-06-21 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda

Matamoros, Cesar A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I did not save the message, but someone commented that you could not
 set the shutter speed faster than 1/180 with RTF up.  This is correct in
its
 default setting.
 
 However, by setting the flash mode to High Sync Wireless (using the
 flash-function button and the select dial) you can set the shutter speed
 faster with the RTF up.  The flash does fire even with the shutter speed
set
 to 1/6000.

Hi Cesar, 
I said that, but I didn't check the flash setting while checking the camera.
High Sync Wireless means that you must use another flash off the camera,
right? So the RTF flashes anyway, but what could the guide number be in that
mode?

 I am willing to check to see how this works with the flash, but I
 don't know what would be a good procedure.  Please let me know and I will
do
 my best to let everyone know the results.

Do you have a flashmeter? It could be interesting to measure the output of the
flash using speeds faster than 1/180.

Gianfranco
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Re: pentax-discuss-digest V1 #876

2001-06-21 Thread Camdir

In a message dated 21/06/01 18:29:34 GMT Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Negatives: big, silver, expensive. 
Don't worry, they come in Black, too.

KR

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Re: Question about ZX5n Focusing Screen

2001-06-21 Thread Bojidar Dimitrov

 Having grown up on a Super Program which has been replaced with a ZX-5n,
I've always wanted to replace the focusing screen on the ZX-5n.  Is it
really feasible to use the ZX-M screen on a ZX-5n?  I would be very
interested in this repair.

Hi,

The way I see things, this would not be advisable, partly due to the fact
that the split-image in the middle of the screen will affect metering
adversely.  Specifically, spot metering will probably be way off.

Cheers,
Boz


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RE: Anyone want a 1000mm F8 screwmount

2001-06-21 Thread J. C. O'Connell

I'm interested.
email me:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cameron R. Hood
 Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 11:55 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Anyone want a 1000mm F8 screwmount
 
 
A local shop has 2 of them, in great shape, with the big  heavy metal
 case. They were used by CLEU (Coordinated Law Enforcement Unit) our
 equivalent of SWAT,  so they have obviously been used for surveillance.
 Email me privately if interested.
 
 Cameron 
 
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Re: High Sync flash checkout with the MZ-S.

2001-06-21 Thread Alin Flaider

Cesar wrote:

MCA I am willing to check to see how this works with the flash, but I
MCA don't know what would be a good procedure.  Please let me know and I will do
MCA my best to let everyone know the results.

   Hi Cesar,

   You should pick a close subject (no farther than 1 meter so that the
   low power of RTF copes with it) in a fairly dark room - flash
   should be the main light. Then set the shutter speed to 1/250 -
   1/6000 and see how the pictures come out. If the subject is
   uniformly exposed (even if underexposed), then the RTF does sync at
   that speed. If they come with stripes, than the RTF bursts are only
   for remote control of the other flashes.
 
   Servus, Alin


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RE: Colour-presentation of Pentax lenses compared to Other Brands

2001-06-21 Thread Ramesh Kumar_C


Does FA 50/2.8 Macro and FA 100 /2.8 are made of ED glass?

Thnaks
Ramesh

-Original Message-
From: Bucky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 10:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Colour-presentation of Pentax lenses compared to Other
Brands


Yeah, I agree, those lenses are stellar, although I only have the FA*24 f/2.
They're so expensive, I have to find things to sell or trade in when I see
one I want.  Unfortunately, by the time I can scrape together the cash,
they're usually sold.

If anyone has a whole series of FA* lenses they want to trade for an
autographed Pia Zadora 8x10 or a complete set of Leonard Maltin action
figures, please email off-list.  Hee.

I was at a garage sale last week and the woman had a single M 135 f/3.5 in a
case; I almost missed it.  I held it up to the light; the thing was so full
of fungus it was amazing.  I left it where it was.  I have this fantasy of
finding such a sale where someone is dumping all this Pentax stuff for
really cheap.  So far, it remains a fantasy.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cameron R. Hood
Sent: June 21, 2001 09:02
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Colour-presentation of Pentax lenses compared to Other
Brands


My most profound revelation on colour casts in lenses happened when I
got my first ED (F*-FA*) lens. All of my shots on non-ED glass looked like
silly little snapshots, with highly unrealistic colour. The ED glass
focusses all of the colours on the same point (plane), yeilding a marvelous
rendition withh accurate, saturated, and in-focus colours.  I then traded in
all of my other lenses on the high-end stuff, and now own a FA*24 f2, an FA*
28-70 f2.8, an FA*85 f1.4, and the fabulous F* 300 f4.5. They really do make
a huge difference, especially in the colour department.


Cameron

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Re: 80-320 lens purchase question

2001-06-21 Thread MZ3_fella _

The difference is the paint job - price difference probably has to do with 
when the dealer purchased the 2 versions and what the Pentax list price was 
at the time. The Silver version replaced the Black.  As for the quality - 
much has been discussed here but my experience is that it is a very good 
lens for the price.

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Re: Colour-presentation of Pentax lenses compared to Other Brands

2001-06-21 Thread tom

Bucky wrote:
 
 If anyone has a whole series of FA* lenses they want to trade for an
 autographed Pia Zadora 8x10 or a complete set of Leonard Maltin action
 figures, please email off-list.
 

Oh my god. Do you have Ballerina Leonard? Is it minty? Oh my god.

tv
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Re: Tricky shot - need advice

2001-06-21 Thread Tom Rittenhouse

If you are going to use strobe, I suggest finding a pro shop
and renting a serious unit, something like a 4800ws pack
with 4 heads. You aim the heads so they overlap in the
center of the dome but the edges only are lit by one or two
heads. You should use a Polaroid to check and adjust the
lighting before making the serious exposures.

Of course, if you are not getting paid at least expenses
this will take quite a lot of out-of-pocket money, maybe
more than you want to spend. However, if you are doing this
for pay, you will want professional results.
--Tom 

Patrick Genovese wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I need advice on how to go about taking a rather tricky shot.
 
 The subject is the inside of a church dome with an exquisite pattern on the
 inside.
 
 Here are some problems/challenges that I face.
 
 The place is huge (approx 50 meters from the church floor to the dome's
 apex).
 
 The interior lighting is very problematic, a mxture ot tungsten and
 flourescent ligting of various types.
 
 I Want the shot to be symmetrical to enphasise the symmetry of the pattern.
 The problem with this is that there is a big silver chandelier hanging from
 a chain presicely in the center.  To work around this I have arranged  to
 do the shoot when the chandelier is removed for cleaning in preparation for
 the village feast.
 
 I need to use slow film to permit a decent enlargement.
 
 Natural lighting is somewhat uneven.
 
 My flash setup is one AF500FTZ plus I can borrow 2 METZ CT60s
 
 I was thinking of a bulb exposure in total darkness and using multiple
 flash bursts to illuminate the interior.
 
 Suggestions please! This shoot will happen between now and August 6, the
 next chance for a re-shoot will be next year so I'd like to get it right
 first time!
 
 Rgds
 
 Patrick
 
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Re: Pentax CCD back design

2001-06-21 Thread Tom Rittenhouse

Some comments re Phillips 24x35 ccd.

I guess that the fact the sensitive surface is about 2.5 mm
behind the surface of the package is what makes
interchangeable digital backs difficult. Probably not a
problem with an in lens shutter because the sensor could be
recessed into the camera, but a focal plane shutter would
not allow that. This maybe why you can get digital backs for
some medium format cameras but not for 35 mm SLRs.

Shutter: As far as I know ccds do not need a mechanical
shutter. The have an electronic shutter feature, at least
the Phillips ccd in question does. But then, you are not
using the same interface for the ccd as for film.

The Phillips site says you can get ccds up to the 6 inch
diameter of a wafer. That translates to up to 4x5 inches.
Anyone for a 4x5 slide in back?
--Tom

Collin Brendemuehl wrote:
 
 My concerns deal with compensation for the
 mechanical shutter and problems related to it.
 
 Here's some issues:
 #1 -- One roadblock that I faced was dealing with auto-exposure
 mechanisms and curtain travel at higher shutter speeds (you end up with a
 slit).
 How are you dealing with this problem?  My net result was that automation
 would be
 lost because of the lack of high shutter speeds controlled by the body.
 
 #2 -- Back availability.  To make an interchangable back one must order a
 bunch
 of parts from the manufacturer so that the units can be retrofitted in a
 reasonable
 amount of time.  I wouldn't want to lose film usage.  And if a mistake is
 made in
 modifying a back, one should have extras available.
 
 #3 -- Interchangability.  To add a dark slide isn't a really big mechanical
 problem.
 But it is a cost concern. The slide is needed to protect the sensor when
 off the body.
 Add another $50USD to the price of the unit.  And also limit the # of
 bodies that you
 can afford to build them for.
 
 #4 -- Sensor mounting.  Because there's some rather convenient rails for
 discerning
 the film plane in every 35mm body, it's easy to build a set of standards
 for the sensor
 to ride on to maintain depth registration.  One will simply need to
 engineer a set of
 standards so that it's a simplemechanism on any particular camera
 body.  What remains
 is lateral motion.  This will happen because of the needed motion to allow for
 interchangability.
 
 If you can resolve these in a cost-effective manner, go for it.
 The circuit isn't much of a problem -- CCDs are almost OTS as far as
 interfacing.  And as was stated, go for a 4-AA NiMH system with the IBM
 MicroDrive 1G.  You'll have a nice market.
 
 Also, I do C  Assembler programming, esp. with microcontrollers.
 Let me know if you need assistance.

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MZ-S questions

2001-06-21 Thread Andreas Wirtz


Sorry if these questions were already discussed. Even
I handled one of first MZ-S I would be very glad if
anyone can answer me.

What is shutter delay (comparing with Z-1 or MZ-5)?
Is camera noisy when rewinding (comparing to Z-1 or
MZ-5)?
Are informations in display visible even on bright
sunlight!
Does light coming from viewfinder disturb camera's
metering system (when photographer is wearing
glasses).
Are there any modifications on camera's hot shoe for
mounting flash which would cause flash not to fall
down when slightly unscrewed.

Best wishes!

Andreas Wirtz



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RE: MZ-S questions

2001-06-21 Thread Ramesh Kumar_C

Hi
These questions are about MZ-S.
1)
Camera being in SPOT Metering mode, when I select different focus point,
does the SPOT Metering area too change with the focus point?

2) 
Assume I am shooting a flat surface having different illumination at
different parts. 
I select the focus point which is  on dark area and do MULTI SEGMENT
metering.
Then I select the focus point which is  on bright area and do MULTI SEGMENT
metering.
Do the metering readings be same?

I had visited http://royalcamera.com/, they charge 799USD for camera(MZ-S),
which is less compared 
to others on-line sites, but shipping is cost 59USD. They seems to make
money from shipping.



Thanks
Ramesh


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From: Darryl Lafferty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 3:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MZ-S questions


The shutter release on the MZ-S is faster than on the PZ1.  The entire
operation of the MZ-S is quiter than the PZ1. Advance and rewind are
really quite. In my opinion the view finder is not affect by by bright
sun light.  The screen is much brighter than the PZ1.  I have had no
problem with wearing glasses.  The metering was very accurate and
predictable.

Darryl



Andreas Wirtz wrote:

 Sorry if these questions were already discussed. Even
 I handled one of first MZ-S I would be very glad if
 anyone can answer me.

 What is shutter delay (comparing with Z-1 or MZ-5)?
 Is camera noisy when rewinding (comparing to Z-1 or
 MZ-5)?
 Are informations in display visible even on bright
 sunlight!
 Does light coming from viewfinder disturb camera's
 metering system (when photographer is wearing
 glasses).
 Are there any modifications on camera's hot shoe for
 mounting flash which would cause flash not to fall
 down when slightly unscrewed.

 Best wishes!

 Andreas Wirtz

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Re: MZ-S questions

2001-06-21 Thread Darryl Lafferty

The answer to your question is yes to allow easy viewing with glasses.  I have no 
problem seeing the entire viewfinder with the MZ-S with my glasses on.  Where the I 
could not see the entire frame of the viewfinder on the PZ1.

Darryl

McRae, Max MS wrote:

 Darryl Lafferty wrote:

  The screen is much brighter than the PZ1.  I have had no
 problem with wearing glasses.  The metering was very accurate and
 predictable.

 Darryl,

 As a fellow spectacle wearer, is the eye relief sufficient to allow
 easy viewing?

 I personally find the Z1p does not have enough eye relief for me, and
 hoped that the MZS is a little more generous in this aspect.

 Max

 Auckland , NZ

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Paris in the Spring?

2001-06-21 Thread John Coyle

Hi guys:

Exactly how many PDML'ers were there in Paris this May?

I know of:
Gerald Cermak
Juan J. Buhler
Me (21-23/5/01)

We could have formed a sub-group by the sound of it :-)

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia

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Re: Standard lens - 35 mm vs 50mm

2001-06-21 Thread Pentax Clover

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 Just Curious! How many of you use 35 mm lens as a standard lens instead of
50 mm lens? Since I bought FA 35 f2.0, I have used this lens more often than
FA 50 mm f1.7 lens. With thanks


Me too, I use the 35mm more than the 43mm


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RE: MZ-S questions

2001-06-21 Thread McRae, Max MS

Brilliant!

Thanks Darryl.


The answer to your question is yes to allow easy viewing with glasses.  I have no 
problem seeing the entire viewfinder with the MZ-S with my glasses on.  Where the I 
could not see the entire frame of the viewfinder on the PZ1.


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FW: Pentax items on ebay

2001-06-21 Thread Stan Halpin

A former PDML member asked me to post the following on his behalf. Note that
his list includes the SMC-F AF 1.7x adapter that has recently been discussed
here, starting at only $59. A possibile opportunity for somebody.

--
From: Chris Foresman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I used to be a member of the Pentax Discussion list.  I have for financial
and logistical reasons had to sell off much of my beloved Pentax gear, so I
decided to start over fresh with a Canon Elan 7 (sorry the MZ-S was just too
little too late). . . .


   Item   Price  Title
---
1248706368$99.00Pentax SMC-M 40mm f/2.8 Pancake Lens
1248708172$59.00Pentax SMC-F 1.7x Autofocus Converter
1248708954$39.00Pentax Auto-Extension Tube Set K-mount
1248710177 $9.00Flash Shoe Adapter for Pentax Spotmatic
1248711418 $9.00Asahi Pentax Screw Mount reversing ring w/box
1248712947$29.00Pentax Screw Variable Extension Tube w/case




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Re: MZ-S questions

2001-06-21 Thread Darryl Lafferty



Ramesh Kumar_C wrote:

 Hi
 These questions are about MZ-S.
 1)
 Camera being in SPOT Metering mode, when I select different focus point,
 does the SPOT Metering area too change with the focus point?

The spot metering point stay in the center of the frame it does not move to the
focus points.

 2)
 Assume I am shooting a flat surface having different illumination at
 different parts.
 I select the focus point which is  on dark area and do MULTI SEGMENT
 metering.
 Then I select the focus point which is  on bright area and do MULTI SEGMENT
 metering.
 Do the metering readings be same?

The Multi Segment is going to read the entire frame from each of six segments
and set the exposure based on computer logic of the program established by the
camera manufacture.  The multi segment is a compromise exposure at best.
Metering is really an art.  Every camera meter is set to an 13% Gray (not 18%
as most people think.)  If you metered off a 13% gray surface for every
exposure you would have a perfect exposure.   If you meter off a white surface
the meter will think it is a gray and the exposure will come out dark.  If you
meter off black the surface will meter will again think it is gray and the
exposure will come out overexposed. Therefore, I use the spot metering and
adjust depending on the color.  Light colors get plus above the meter reading
and dark colors get a stop down from the camera reading.  If you are going to
use the multi segment meter I would recommend bracketing.





 I had visited http://royalcamera.com/, they charge 799USD for camera(MZ-S),
 which is less compared
 to others on-line sites, but shipping is cost 59USD. They seems to make
 money from shipping.

 Thanks
 Ramesh

 -Original Message-
 From: Darryl Lafferty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 3:04 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: MZ-S questions

 The shutter release on the MZ-S is faster than on the PZ1.  The entire
 operation of the MZ-S is quiter than the PZ1. Advance and rewind are
 really quite. In my opinion the view finder is not affect by by bright
 sun light.  The screen is much brighter than the PZ1.  I have had no
 problem with wearing glasses.  The metering was very accurate and
 predictable.

 Darryl

 Andreas Wirtz wrote:

  Sorry if these questions were already discussed. Even
  I handled one of first MZ-S I would be very glad if
  anyone can answer me.
 
  What is shutter delay (comparing with Z-1 or MZ-5)?
  Is camera noisy when rewinding (comparing to Z-1 or
  MZ-5)?
  Are informations in display visible even on bright
  sunlight!
  Does light coming from viewfinder disturb camera's
  metering system (when photographer is wearing
  glasses).
  Are there any modifications on camera's hot shoe for
  mounting flash which would cause flash not to fall
  down when slightly unscrewed.
 
  Best wishes!
 
  Andreas Wirtz
 
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Re: Paris in the Spring?

2001-06-21 Thread Juan J. Buhler

On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, John Coyle wrote:

 Exactly how many PDML'ers were there in Paris this May?
 
 I know of:
 Gerald Cermak
 Juan J. Buhler
 Me (21-23/5/01)
 
 We could have formed a sub-group by the sound of it :-)

I was there from April 28 to May 1st, and the 19 and 20 of May.

Yep, it would have been fun to get together (it doesn't look like our
dates coincided, though)  One of the great things of this and other
lists is getting to meet the people whose posts you read every day. I
had a great time in Rome with Flavio and in Napoli with Gianfranco,
some quite fine folks they are.

j

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Re: Pentax items on ebay

2001-06-21 Thread Kevin Butler

Hello all,

I'm a recently subscribed user to this list, but have been skimming it
fairly comprehensively under the pretense of doing work at my real job
(which has nothing to do with photography). I'm a pretty rank amateur (and
rank is the right term, as many of my photographs stink) that jumped into
the world of SLR photography about a year and a half ago. Only within the
last six or so months have I discovered the wonder that is photo.net and
other resources over the net, and reading the deluge of information has
cased me to feel a little uneasy about my system (what little there is of
it). I've just got one body (the MZ-7) and a pair of lenses (a Tamron 28-200
Super II and a 50/1.8), along with a few goodies I've picked up to extend
the camera's usefulness (cable release, wireless remote, 400-FTZ flash). The
reason I'm bringing this up as an extension to the ebay thread is that I'm
concerned about the Pentax system, particularly given midrange competition
like the Canon Elan 7. To my untrained eye, it appears as though the HSM on
many Canon lenses, and the IS features on a few, are category killers (the
Nikon Silent Wave stuff is hideously expensive) and relatively moderately
priced. As well, the features on the bodies, while perhaps somewhat
whiz-bang, are relatively comprehensive even on a mid-line model (DoF, spot
metering, MLU, really fast AF, and the Elan apparently has nearly silent
operation). I know you've seen the question within the last month, but I'm
wondering what keeps you wedded to the Pentax system - is it the substantial
investment in glass, or the joy of being able to find older quality MF
lenses for cheap on occasion? I'm certainly not trying to start a jihad,
just making the (perhaps well-worn) observation that Pentax seems even more
conservative with lens features than even N. Hopefully I'm not merely
falling victim to corporate hype, but I'd be interested by opinions.
Apologies if I'm treading overly familiar ground, but the situation seemed
pertinent to ask this as a corollary.

Thanks,

Kevin


- Original Message -
From: Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 5:41 PM
Subject: FW: Pentax items on ebay


 A former PDML member asked me to post the following on his behalf. Note
that
 his list includes the SMC-F AF 1.7x adapter that has recently been
discussed
 here, starting at only $59. A possibile opportunity for somebody.

 --
 From: Chris Foresman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I used to be a member of the Pentax Discussion list.  I have for financial
 and logistical reasons had to sell off much of my beloved Pentax gear, so
I
 decided to start over fresh with a Canon Elan 7 (sorry the MZ-S was just
too
 little too late). . . .


Item   Price  Title
 ---
 1248706368$99.00Pentax SMC-M 40mm f/2.8 Pancake Lens
 1248708172$59.00Pentax SMC-F 1.7x Autofocus Converter
 1248708954$39.00Pentax Auto-Extension Tube Set K-mount
 1248710177 $9.00Flash Shoe Adapter for Pentax Spotmatic
 1248711418 $9.00Asahi Pentax Screw Mount reversing ring w/box
 1248712947$29.00Pentax Screw Variable Extension Tube w/case




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Re: Pentax items on ebay

2001-06-21 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Butler 
Subject: Re: Pentax items on ebay


 Hello all,
snip
I'm
 wondering what keeps you wedded to the Pentax system 

Its the lenses. Always has been.
And the LX.

William Robb
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Ricoh XR Winder I from Ebay

2001-06-21 Thread James Adams

I have just successfully bid (Dutch Auction) for a New Ricoh XR Winder I for
Ricoh XR1  2 (5 available)
  http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1247311948

It looks as though I have got 2 @ $24.75 US each, as PayPal/Ebay goofed.  As
I am probably going to buy another camera, I may opt to have both.

James

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Photo alert!!!

2001-06-21 Thread James Adams

For anyone interested the 2001 Tissot/UCI Mountain Bike World Cup is being
held on Grouse Mountain on Vancouvers North Shore July 6-8, 2001.  For
details:
http://www.grousemountain.com/summer/worldparent.html

The event should be a blast, and offer some wicked action shot.
Unfortunately, I won't be there, as I'm booked to go to Vancouver Island for
a weeks camping with my family. Which should be fun.

James

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Re: Pentax items on ebay

2001-06-21 Thread Doug Brewer

And the PDML...



At 9:51 PM -06006/21/01, William Robb  donned the ruby slippers, tapped the heels 
together three times, and chanted:

Its the lenses. Always has been.
And the LX.

William Robb
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Re: Question about ZX5n Focusing Screen

2001-06-21 Thread Sherwin Abesamis

 I seem to have gotten a little speck of dust/dirt on the
 top side of my ZX5n focusing screen. Its really annoying
 through the finder. On my LX, there's a hinged door that
 drops down so you can change/clean the focusing screen.
 Does anyone know if the screen on the ZX5n can be removed
 w/o damaging the camera? It looks similar, but I don't think
 there's a hinge like the LX.

funny you mention this, since i suffered from the same problem a mere few 
weeks ago. for some reason or another, dust had affixed itself to my 
zx-5n's focusing screen and after taking it to three different camera shops 
they all came to the conclusion that they couldn't clean it because the 
dust was on the INSIDE of the focusing screen (how it got there is anyone's 
guess). they used blowers to try to air it off which greatly worried me, 
because i was afraid they'd damage my mirror or focusing screen in the 
process (that never happened, fortunately).

the crazy thing is that the dust speck itself gradually came off. i bring 
my camera everywhere i go, and on a few occasions left it in the passenger 
seat of my car. i noticed that each time i left it in such a hot spot (NOT 
RECOMMENDED btw) the dust speck would gradually move down and eventually it 
flaked off the focusing screen. my guess is that the humidity in the 
vehicle loosened it enough that it fell off.

personally i wouldn't worry too much about it. if it REALLY bothers you, 
send it to pentax for cleaning and service.



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Re: Pentax items on ebay

2001-06-21 Thread Stan Halpin


 From: Kevin Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 . . .
 wondering what keeps you wedded to the Pentax system - is it the substantial
 investment in glass, or the joy of being able to find older quality MF
 lenses for cheap on occasion?

I really liked my Nikkormat (circa late '60's), but after about the first
year I could never trust the light meter and it was very expensive to
repair. I really liked my Olympus OM-1, but it seemed as though third-party
lenses weren't available and Olympus lenses were expensive. I got into
Pentax gear with the ME Super. Like my previous two, nice simple operation,
solid, and even more reliable, with many lens choices. Fast forward through
almost 20 years of mostly vacation pictures. When I rediscovered
photography, I went with the PZ-1p because I had the Pentax lenses and the
PZ felt comfortable in my hands. I still like the PZ and consider it a
simple reliable camera. With much potential for the times I want to or need
to complicate my life. But I have gone more and more retro, and just really
love the solid simplicity of the LX and the 645. Canon? Olympus? Nikon? None
have the same backward/forward compatibility of lenses to cameras that
Pentax has - really marvelous! Good lenses, usable across a broad range of
camera bodies from very simple to very sophisticated, everything well
designed as a system, well thought through and laid out, . . . sticking wit
Pentax is a no-brainer for me. It hurts my head to think about the research
I would have to do to try to learn the Canon jargon so that I could learn
which used lenses fit which used or new cameras!

Stan

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A 35-105 f/3.5

2001-06-21 Thread Bucky

Is the A 35-105 f/3.5 a good zoom?  I'd appreciate comments both good and
bad, as well as a reasonable price I should pay if I were to buy it.  It
seems like a good compromise for carrying about on the LX, rather than
stocking up on a series of primes to cover the same focal range.

TIA,

Mike
Vancouver, Canada

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Re: Pentax items on ebay

2001-06-21 Thread Chris Brogden

On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Kevin Butler wrote:

 The reason I'm bringing this up as an extension to the ebay thread is
 that I'm concerned about the Pentax system, particularly given
 midrange competition like the Canon Elan 7.

One thing to think about: the existence of 'better' or more fully-featured
products does not lessen the quality of yours.  If you're speaking more in
general terms, then Pentax does quite well in the entry-level SLR market
(at least where I come from), though opinions vary about their mid-range
stuff.  The Elan 7's not a bad camera, though its partial metering
doesn't cover a very narrow area and I personally dislike the
interface.  Nikon's F80 is a sweet little camera (with its 1 degree spot
meter), though I would miss the metering with MF lenses.

 To my untrained eye, it appears as though the HSM on many Canon
 lenses, and the IS features on a few, are category killers (the Nikon
 Silent Wave stuff is hideously expensive) and relatively moderately
 priced.

Canon's USM (HSM is a Sigma thing) is a nice feature.  I think most of us
are willing to sacrifice it for the advantages of a Pentax system.  Of
course, if ultra-fast focusing is a necessity, then Canon or Nikon would
probably be the way to go, as they seem to be continually at the forefront
of integrating the latest technology into their equipment.

 As well, the features on the bodies, while perhaps somewhat whiz-bang,
 are relatively comprehensive even on a mid-line model (DoF,

MZ-5n has it (as well as the MZ-3 and Z-1p if you can still find them).

 spot metering,

MZ-5n has a 2.5 degree spot meter.  Nikon F80 does have 1 degree, but
Canon's Elan 7 has something awful like 11 degrees, IIRC.

 MLU,

I don't think any current AF Nikon below the F5 has this, and I don't
think the Elan 7 has it (can't remember for sure).  Pentax's Z-1p has a 2
second self-timer option with MLU, and I can use my Pentax lenses on
several older bodies with MLU.

 really fast AF,

As far as speed goes, I'd put Pentax right up there with any other
mid-range body with a decent lens on it.  In terms of stuff like lock-on
focus tracking I think C and N have them beat.

 and the Elan apparently has nearly silent operation).

It's pretty quiet, yeah.  The MZ bodies are way too noisy for my liking,
especially the AF.

 I know you've seen the question within the last month, but I'm
 wondering what keeps you wedded to the Pentax system - is it the substantial
 investment in glass, or the joy of being able to find older quality MF
 lenses for cheap on occasion?

Hoo boy, this could be a long one.  :)  I'll try to make it
brief.

--Excellent quality glass and coatings.

--Excellent body/lens compatibility.  I can put *any* Pentax lens on my
K-mount bodies, ranging from the old 42mm screwmounts (and even the older
37mm Asahiflex lenses) right up to medium format lenses.  Not to mention
that any Pentax K-mount lens (K, M, A, F, and FA series) will work on any
K-mount body (made since 1975).  Neat things like the 1.7x AF adapter
will let me use AF (albeit slow) with MF lenses, and I can interchange MF
and AF bodies and lenses as I choose.

--Pentax tries to offer a different product to Canon and Nikon.  Where C/N
tend to go for full-featured large bodies with similar designs, Pentax has
tried to make more compact cameras with unique designs (Z1-p, MZ-S,
etc.).  They are willing to sacrifice some features like a huge fps count
in favour of others that you just can't find in other brands.  Look at
all the stuff that the Z-1p will do that C/N won't: Hyper modes
(incredible!), side-mounted hotshoe, zoom clip / image size tracking
(gimmicky), MLU with self-timer, etc.  Look at the retro design of the
MZ-5n... try to find that traditional layout in a current AF camera from
Canon or Nikon.  Look at things like the Limited lenses.  Pentax seems to
be putting more thought into offering an actual alternative to C/N, and I
appreciate that.

--I love using older MF equipment, and I love the feel of the
pre-Spotmatic Pentaxes.  Older Canons and Minoltas just don't feel right
to me, and even the Nikons are too large and heavy for my liking.  You
can't beat the feel of a good PSP.

--The LX and Super Program.  'Nuff said.

--Their MedF stuff.  I like the fact that I can use MedF lenses on 35mm
bodies, and try to find MedF equipmetn from Nikon or Canon.  I appreciate
that Pentax is trying to serve that market as well.

--Again, the excellent lenses.  That deserves repeating.  :)

I went into Pentax being fully aware of the advantages and features of the
other brands.  Some of them are nice, and if I was doing work that need a
10fps camera and USM/IS lenses then I would probably be using Nikon or
Canon.  But because I don't need those features, I can look more at what
else the camera systems have to offer, and for my needs Pentax wins hands
down.  I love MF stuff, so Canon's not even a contender due to the changed
lens mount.  I like a lot of Nikon's stuff, but in the end I found 

Another routine thread hijacking: Re: Pentax items on ebay goes to the PUG

2001-06-21 Thread William Robb


- Original Message -
From: Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: June 21, 2001 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax items on ebay


 And the PDML...

And the PUG, must not forget the PUG.

As a matter of fact, allow me to hijack this thread completely,
so as to shamelessly flog the July Gallery.
This one will be a little smaller than recent ones, with just
over 60 submissions confirmed.
We have several first time submitters, and a few who have not
been around for a while have submitted this month.
We are also graced with some very nice work from the Russian
Federation. These are photographers who would normally be
submitting to the Penta Magazine online gallery (a great place
to visit, hopefully Dan will have it back on line soon).
Yup, we got another grand gallery coming up.

Also, my little pet project that I have worked so hard on, the
LX Gallery, is still seeking submissions.
Don't delay, get your picture scanned today!!!
The URL with everything you need to know is in my overly long
sig file .

Thanks
William Robb
Remember, the LX Gallery is coming up.
Please see:
http://pug.komkon.org/LX_Gallery/LX_Submit.html
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Re: Hiking at Konza

2001-06-21 Thread Stan Halpin

Hernán -  Well done!  I really like the bicho rojo (o sea bicho azul con
cabeza rojo?), #17 and the caterpillar (#29)! Me parece que ha aprendido
usar su F 100mm F/2.8 . . .
Thank you for sharing.

I stopped by the small Konza visitors center late one afternoon earlier this
spring on my way back to KC from K-State, and I could see the potential.
Your photos remind me that I need to back out there soon and do some of my
own exploration.

Stan

 From: Hernán Mouro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:58:15 -0500
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Hiking at Konza
 
 Last Saturday my wife and I went hiking to Konza Prairie, a conservation
 area near Manhattan... no, not the Big Apple, the Little Apple, in...
 Kansas!
 
 We got up really early, at 4.30 am, and we went there. It was still dark,
 but the sky was starting to lighten up. We spent from 5.30 to noon enjoying
 the pure air and taking pictures. Fortunately, it was a glorious day, and
 this is the first time we take so many pictures in such a short time. This
 is all the fault of my almost new ZX-5n and this list. :-) We took about 4
 rolls in six hours, when a roll usually lasted more than a month in our
 point and shoot. I almost felt guilty.
 
 Anyway, if you want to see the pictures, they're here:
 http://seiscuerdas.com/mouro/photo/konza. I uploaded them there mostly for
 my family in Argentina, but I hope you'll enjoy them, too.
 
 Hernan Mouro.
 

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Re: A 35-105 f/3.5

2001-06-21 Thread Bob Blakely

I consider the SMCA 35-105 f/3.5 to be excellent as zooms go, especially 3:1
zooms. It will not compare with primes, but compared with other zooms it is,
sharp with good contrast. It does show a small amount of barrel distortion.
It is prone to some flair as are all zooms, perhaps a little more so than
the SMCA 70-210 f/4, but having a shortest focal length of 70mm makes
shading it easier. (The SMCA 70-210 f/4 has an integral, pull out shade.) Of
the 24 Pentax lenses, the two zooms I chose to own are the SMCA 35-105 f/3.5
and the SMCA 70-210 f/4.

Regards,
Bob...
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Those who say that life is worth living at any cost
have already written an epitaph of infamy,
for there is no cause and no person
that they will not betray to stay alive.
Sidney Hook

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From: Bucky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax Peepl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 9:44 PM
Subject: A 35-105 f/3.5


 Is the A 35-105 f/3.5 a good zoom?  I'd appreciate comments both good and
 bad, as well as a reasonable price I should pay if I were to buy it.  It
 seems like a good compromise for carrying about on the LX, rather than
 stocking up on a series of primes to cover the same focal range.

 TIA,

 Mike
 Vancouver, Canada

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Re: A 35-105 f/3.5

2001-06-21 Thread Bob Blakely

Correction...

... Of the 24 Pentax lenses I own, the two zooms I chose to own are the SMCA
35-105 f/3.5 and the SMCA 70-210 f/4. I don't own any AF lenses.


Regards,
Bob...
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From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 I consider the SMCA 35-105 f/3.5 to be excellent as zooms go, especially
3:1
 zooms. It will not compare with primes, but compared with other zooms it
is,
 sharp with good contrast. It does show a small amount of barrel
distortion.
 It is prone to some flair as are all zooms, perhaps a little more so than
 the SMCA 70-210 f/4, but having a shortest focal length of 70mm makes
 shading it easier. (The SMCA 70-210 f/4 has an integral, pull out shade.)
Of
 the 24 Pentax lenses, the two zooms I chose to own are the SMCA 35-105
f/3.5
 and the SMCA 70-210 f/4.


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