Re: K24 3.5 -- comments?

2001-10-18 Thread Daphne

definitely a good bargain! mine cost me 200$ 
(its a great lens though, so no regrets! )

Daphne
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Re: K24 3.5 -- comments?

2001-10-18 Thread Daphne

definitely a good bargain! mine cost me 200$ 
(its a great lens though, so no regrets! )

Daphne
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RE: Testing the AutoPUG

2001-10-18 Thread Cyril MARION

Hi William and all,

When you were talking about 'nuking the PUG' were you talking about
transferring it into phpnuke ?
It would be nice to let the Pentax users publish themselves their pictures,
and the others visitors to publish comments on each picture without givig
the Pug webmasters too much work. This is what permitts the use of a web
site based on phpnuke. For additional information please visit
www.phpnuke.org and go into the mygallery or e-gallery add-on section.

Cheers,

Cyril.

[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]De la part de William Robb
Envoyé : jeudi 18 octobre 2001 08:52
À : Pentax Discuss
Objet : Testing the AutoPUG

Some time ago, we did a test of the AutoPUG, and came up with a
gallery of sorts. It seemed like such a shame to just have it
sitting there, doing nothing, so, rather than nuke it, I have
decided to make it available, in all its glory.
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Is this a good idea?

2001-10-18 Thread Juan J. Buhler

Every time I find a lens I'd consider buying, I have to research its price,
usually looking at this lists archive, ebay past auctions, etc.

So I put together this page:

http://www.jbuhler.com/pprice.html

Where we could list prices of lenses we bought or sold, and we could use as a
reference when looking for a specific lens.

The greedy part of me says this is a bad idea, and could stop bargains from
happening. My sensible side says it's a good idea, since I usually don't
really want to rob people of their lenses, and people who want to research
the price of a lens would be able to do so regardless of the existence of
this page anyway.

So, if you feel like this is a good idea and have data to contribute, email
it to me. Hopefully this will be more popular than the "PDML favorite
locations" list I started a few months back, which got a mind-boggling 2 or 3
answers total.

Cheers,

j



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Re: Lowepro Micro Trekkers - opinions?

2001-10-18 Thread jbrooks

Hello Cotty
I have a Micro Trekker 200 SE (Special Edition) that was about a third 
cheaper than the non-SE version. There are only a few minor differences eg 
the SE lacks a keyring holder. Most importantly the SE has sliding but not 
lockable adjustment for the chest strap. This can be a little annoying, but 
IMO it's worth the saving. I'm probably going to sew it into place so it 
doesn't slip down anyway. 

In general the pack is brilliant. It comfortably holds MZ-S with 28-70/4, ME 
super with 50/1.7, either 80-320 or 70-210/4 depending on mood, and 85/1.8, 
AF330FTZ, along with spare batteries, films, and other oddments. There's a 
useful pocket on the front of the pack which will easily take sandwiches and 
drinks, map and compass, waterproof coat (whatever). 

It's very comfortable indeed and a vast improvement over a shoulder bag. I 
can wear the pack, filled as above, for several hours, in town or country. I 
would agree with Mick McGuire though, that access is somewhat less 
convenient than a shoulder bag, but I have got into the habit of wearing the 
pack and carrying the camera and lens of choice in my hand. 

I only have one gripe really, and that is that the zip enclosing the main 
section of the pack is very accessible. This makes me a bit paranoid in 
crowded places such as Covent Garden, that some felon will unzip the pack 
enough to slip out the prized MZ-S. I usually end up carrying the pack by 
its top handle in these situations. 

I would highly recommend the Micro Trekker 200 (SE). It meets my needs (as 
detailed above) almost perfectly. If yours are similar, you will not be 
disappointed. 

Regards
Jim Brooks 

> -- 
> 
> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 17:15:09 +0100
> From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Lowepro Micro Trekkers - opinions? 
> 
> I'm thinking of snapping up a Micro Trekker 200 that's on special offer 
> near me. Does anyone have any firm opinions on these? I was very 
> impressed with Rob Studdert's Lowepro packed with gera when we met, 
> although I forget which actual model he had... 
> 
> I only want something small that will take one or two bodies and up to 
> four lenses plus a few bits, nothing much. Size is important (as the 
> actress said to the bishop) but in this case, I want it compact. 
> 
> Any input greatly appreciated. 
> 
> Cheers, 
> 
> Cotty
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Re: Testing the AutoPUG

2001-10-18 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: "Cyril MARION" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 1:30 AM
Subject: RE: Testing the AutoPUG


> Hi William and all,
>
> When you were talking about 'nuking the PUG' were you talking
about
> transferring it into phpnuke ?

I was talking about deleting it from the server

William Robb
PUG Gallery Maintainer
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Re: Why no spotbeam projector on MZ-S? - and on LX-AF...?

2001-10-18 Thread Nenad Djurdjevic

I have auto-focused my Pentax Z1 against a plain white wall in pitch
darkness.  Try that on your MZ-S! ;-)

Nenad
Perth
West Australia

- Original Message -
From: John Coyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 1:02 PM
Subject: RE: Why no spotbeam projector on MZ-S? - and on LX-AF...?


> I tried mine against the railing on my deck, where I had a plain (out of
focus
> sky) background and both vertical and horizontal rails or stanchions to
use.
>  Couldn't fault it, except when I tried one off-centre focus point on a
> vertical railing, when it did think about it for about 30 milliseconds
>
> John Coyle
> Brisbane, Australia
>
>
> On Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:00 AM, Ed [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
wrote:
> > Have other people who own MZ-S cameras confirmed this?  Pop Photo said
> > they had to tilt the camera to get it to focus.  Even in absence of this
> > knowledge, if it had focused, they would not have tilted the camera at
> > all, right?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ed
> > http://lightandsilver.com
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Re: Lowepro Micro Trekkers - opinions?

2001-10-18 Thread Nenad Djurdjevic

If you can get by with a smaller bag I recommend the Lowepro Orion Beltpack.
I've just got one for my upcoming Nepal trip and it easily holds my Z1 with
gripstrap, 75-150f4 and my Tokina 19-35 f3.5-4.5 with lenshood and still has
a bit of room left over for a few rolls of film and other small items.  The
best thing is that the camera gear is readily assessible at all times and is
in front of you where you can keep an eye on it.

Regards
Nenad

- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: Lowepro Micro Trekkers - opinions?


> Hello Cotty
> I have a Micro Trekker 200 SE (Special Edition) that was about a third
> cheaper than the non-SE version. There are only a few minor differences eg
> the SE lacks a keyring holder. Most importantly the SE has sliding but not
> lockable adjustment for the chest strap. This can be a little annoying,
but
> IMO it's worth the saving. I'm probably going to sew it into place so it
> doesn't slip down anyway.
>
> In general the pack is brilliant. It comfortably holds MZ-S with 28-70/4,
ME
> super with 50/1.7, either 80-320 or 70-210/4 depending on mood, and
85/1.8,
> AF330FTZ, along with spare batteries, films, and other oddments. There's a
> useful pocket on the front of the pack which will easily take sandwiches
and
> drinks, map and compass, waterproof coat (whatever).
>
> It's very comfortable indeed and a vast improvement over a shoulder bag. I
> can wear the pack, filled as above, for several hours, in town or country.
I
> would agree with Mick McGuire though, that access is somewhat less
> convenient than a shoulder bag, but I have got into the habit of wearing
the
> pack and carrying the camera and lens of choice in my hand.
>
> I only have one gripe really, and that is that the zip enclosing the main
> section of the pack is very accessible. This makes me a bit paranoid in
> crowded places such as Covent Garden, that some felon will unzip the pack
> enough to slip out the prized MZ-S. I usually end up carrying the pack by
> its top handle in these situations.
>
> I would highly recommend the Micro Trekker 200 (SE). It meets my needs (as
> detailed above) almost perfectly. If yours are similar, you will not be
> disappointed.
>
> Regards
> Jim Brooks
>
> > --
> >
> > Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 17:15:09 +0100
> > From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Lowepro Micro Trekkers - opinions?
> >
> > I'm thinking of snapping up a Micro Trekker 200 that's on special offer
> > near me. Does anyone have any firm opinions on these? I was very
> > impressed with Rob Studdert's Lowepro packed with gera when we met,
> > although I forget which actual model he had...
> >
> > I only want something small that will take one or two bodies and up to
> > four lenses plus a few bits, nothing much. Size is important (as the
> > actress said to the bishop) but in this case, I want it compact.
> >
> > Any input greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Cotty
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Re: Why no spotbeam projector on MZ-S? - and on LX-AF...?

2001-10-18 Thread Bruce Dayton

Must have made for a very exciting picture.  Maybe a future PUG submission?
:)

Seriously, I did use my PZ-1p a night on a picture of my daughter with a
snowman she had built.  It was too dark for me to even compose real well.
The spotbeam on my AF500FTZ worked like a champ allowing me to record this
fun event for her  (No snow where we live).

With my MZ-S I would have been able to do the same thing.  But I am one who
tends to use the big flash instead of the popup.


Bruce Dayton
Sacramento, CA


- Original Message -
From: "Nenad Djurdjevic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 1:09 AM
Subject: Re: Why no spotbeam projector on MZ-S? - and on LX-AF...?


> I have auto-focused my Pentax Z1 against a plain white wall in pitch
> darkness.  Try that on your MZ-S! ;-)
>
> Nenad
> Perth
> West Australia
>
> - Original Message -
> From: John Coyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 1:02 PM
> Subject: RE: Why no spotbeam projector on MZ-S? - and on LX-AF...?
>
>
> > I tried mine against the railing on my deck, where I had a plain (out of
> focus
> > sky) background and both vertical and horizontal rails or stanchions to
> use.
> >  Couldn't fault it, except when I tried one off-centre focus point on a
> > vertical railing, when it did think about it for about 30 milliseconds
> >
> > John Coyle
> > Brisbane, Australia
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:00 AM, Ed [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> wrote:
> > > Have other people who own MZ-S cameras confirmed this?  Pop Photo said
> > > they had to tilt the camera to get it to focus.  Even in absence of
this
> > > knowledge, if it had focused, they would not have tilted the camera at
> > > all, right?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ed
> > > http://lightandsilver.com
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Re: More UPS Crap

2001-10-18 Thread Norman Baugher

They made that decision because it was cheaper to pay the insurance on
lost or stolen stuff than to have the driver try and return to do their
job, which is supposed to be delivering packages to the intended
recipient...
Norm

William Robb wrote:

> I got a reply from UPS regarding that shipment that they left
> with my neighbor.
> The gist of it is that they leave the decision about whether to
> deliver to the addressee or just abandon it with someone in the
> neighborhood up to the individual driver.
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Re: I'm still alive!

2001-10-18 Thread Jostein

Antti-Pekka!
Good to hear you and your wife fared well.
The value of solid cars can't be underestimated, IMO.
Take time to recover, but don't hesitate to drive again.
Sooner the better.
Best
Jostein


-- Original Message --
From: Antti-Pekka Virjonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 08:35:28 +0200

>Dear all,
>
>We're still alive, me and my wife! This may sound a stupid thing
>to say, but I wanted to let you all know. Let me explain.
>
>On Sunday morning, on the highway between Turku and Helsinki, 
>we had a car accident with an elk (not a very small animal !).  
>We are extremely happy to only suffer some minor scratches 
(mostly from
>the pieces of broken windscreen glass) and we
>are very happy we have a strong car (Mitsubishi Pajero, a big 4x4 
jeep
>kind of car). The elk did not survive and the car has pretty
>bad damage (but repairable, thanks to a very strong built).
>At around 90-100km/h accidents like this are pretty scary.
>
>I hope nothing like this ever happens again...
>I did not take any photographs, this is the kind of thing you
>really don't want to have any memories of.
>
>I cannot describe how it feels to be alive.
>
>Drive safely you all!
>Antti-Pekka
>---
>* Antti-Pekka Virjonen * Fiskarsinkatu 7 D   * GSM: +358 400 
789753 *
>* Computec Oy Turku* FIN-20750 Turku Finland * Fax: +358 2 
413  *
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Off for a while

2001-10-18 Thread PAUL STENQUIST

I'm signing off for a bit, since I'm leaving for an extended trip this
morning. I'll try to resubscribe from Mexico.
Paul Stenquist
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RE: Why no spotbeam projector on MZ-S? - and on LX-AF...?

2001-10-18 Thread Rob Brigham

If it was pitch darkness, then it must have been a plain black wall.
Without light, everything is black!!

Seriously the Z1 and any other SLR I can find do not hold a candel the
the MZ-S for low light AF - IT IS PHENOMENAL



> -Original Message-
> From: Nenad Djurdjevic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 18 October 2001 09:09
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Why no spotbeam projector on MZ-S? - and on LX-AF...?
> 
> 
> I have auto-focused my Pentax Z1 against a plain white wall in pitch
> darkness.  Try that on your MZ-S! ;-)
> 
> Nenad
> Perth
> West Australia
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: John Coyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 1:02 PM
> Subject: RE: Why no spotbeam projector on MZ-S? - and on LX-AF...?
> 
> 
> > I tried mine against the railing on my deck, where I had a 
> plain (out of
> focus
> > sky) background and both vertical and horizontal rails or 
> stanchions to
> use.
> >  Couldn't fault it, except when I tried one off-centre 
> focus point on a
> > vertical railing, when it did think about it for about 30 
> milliseconds
> >
> > John Coyle
> > Brisbane, Australia
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:00 AM, Ed 
> [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> wrote:
> > > Have other people who own MZ-S cameras confirmed this?  
> Pop Photo said
> > > they had to tilt the camera to get it to focus.  Even in 
> absence of this
> > > knowledge, if it had focused, they would not have tilted 
> the camera at
> > > all, right?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ed
> > > http://lightandsilver.com
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Re: Chrome ES

2001-10-18 Thread Norman Baugher

Why are you yelling? 
Norm

"J. C. O'Connell" wrote:

> EVERYTHING WORKS EXCEPT THE HOT SHOE IS NOT SYNCING
> (EASY FIX) THE BODY IS ALMOST LIKE NEW! VERY PRETTY.
> I HAVE A FEELING THE CAMERA IS RARE TOO.
> GERJANS BOOK CLAIMS THEY (ES) WERE ONLY MADE IN BLACK.
> JCO
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Re: I'm still alive!

2001-10-18 Thread Norman Baugher

I hit a cow driving a Triumph Spitfire at night doing 100kphthe cow and I
walked away, the car didn't. That was scary.
Norm

John Coyle wrote:

> Glad to hear you are both all right, Antti-Pekka.  I had a similar accident a
> few years ago in Australia (hit a herd of Brahmin cattle - killed the car but
> most of the cattle walked away!).  It happened at night, and mine was a only a
> small car, so the damage was extensive.  The worst thing was, I had absolutely
> no chance of avoiding the accident as the cattle were in the dazzle zone beside
> a truck facing the opposite way.  It's not a pleasant experience to be trying
> to dodge big animals like that, and we too were lucky that no-one was hurt.
> The next day, my brother-in-law came down and towed us 200 kms from the scene
> of the accident to our then home in Gladstone!  Some tow that was!
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Archives

2001-10-18 Thread mike wilson

For those who are interested:

The good news is that the archives are back up to date -
displaying up to 17/October/2001.

The bad news is that it's been done by losing/ignoring/otherwise
not archiving any posts from 5/October to 17/October.

Which brings me to another point:  the "archives" are not
permanent.  The oldest messages I can access are
11/September/2001.  Anyone know where the rest are?

mike
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Seville

2001-10-18 Thread MZ3_fella _

I'm off to Seville for 4 days Any recommendations about what to see, do, 
eat.  Will take 2 bodies (maybe), 20-35mm or 28-70, 43mm for speed, 80-200.  
Anything else?

Cheers,

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Re: Delivery Question /UPS whinge

2001-10-18 Thread Camdir

In a message dated 17/10/01 20:52:30 GMT Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Standard practice for UPS - read the fine print.
 That's if they don't just leave it sitting on your step.
 
 (You wouldn't want their driver to waste his time by
  coming back to your house more than once, would you?)
 
 That's just one of the reasons why I'll never use UPS.
 Most of the time they're no cheaper than FedEx, anyway. >>

I wonder if they still use the oversized brown truck in US/Canada? One size 
fits all? Nope. Not in our tiny streets.

Kind regards from sunny Brighton

Peter
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Heaps of quality lenses on ebay

2001-10-18 Thread Bob Rapp

Hi all,
Here is a reference to some quality optics located here in Australia

http://cgi6.ebay.com.au/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=chris.ga
[EMAIL PROTECTED]&include=0&since=-1&sort=2&rows=25

There is even a 15, 18, 20 and other highly coveted lenses.

Bob
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Re: K85 1.8Joy

2001-10-18 Thread Camdir

<< I picked up my 135mm f1.8 A* lens two months ago for the princly sum of
 $230... Sometimes its better to be luck than good!:-) >>

Isaac. Would you like the correct lens shade? It will cost you around 12% of 
the lens' price!

Kind regards

Peter
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"Not another Camera"

2001-10-18 Thread Bob Rapp

My wife is getting sick of surprises (not the type she really wants)! I
have done it, yet again, Bid and won a camera on ebay. A Spotmatic of all
things! I have 2 already plus 7 K mounts from a K2 to even a P5!
My basic Spotmatic (those of you who know me know I refer to them as
"Funtaxes") system includes the SMC 28 f3.5 35 f3.5 35 f2.0 55 f1.8 and a 85
f1.8. The main reason I went after it is because it included 3 lenses and
the most significant is the SMCT 135 f2.5. This is the same lens as the K135
f2.5 some of us have.
The set also includes a SPII, SMCT 55 f1.5, ST 200 f4, Metz 30BCT4 and even
a "Pentax Way" book. All this for 152.50.
But, you know, there is no magic like a Spotmatic out in the bush. Yes it
takes more time and you cannot consume a roll of film in under 6 seconds,
but the keepers out number those images that are pitched.
Flowers are in order tomorrow as I will break the new to her. Wish me well
and such.

Bob Rapp
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Re: Heaps of quality lenses on ebay

2001-10-18 Thread Paul Jones

I saw all these but then didn't mention them as i saw a list member is the
highest bidder on most of them :)

- Original Message -
From: "Bob Rapp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 8:31 PM
Subject: Heaps of quality lenses on ebay


> Hi all,
> Here is a reference to some quality optics located here in Australia
>
>
http://cgi6.ebay.com.au/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=chris.ga
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]&include=0&since=-1&sort=2&rows=25
>
> There is even a 15, 18, 20 and other highly coveted lenses.
>
> Bob
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Re: Delivery question

2001-10-18 Thread John Mustarde

Dear Sir,

We have adopted a new service for customers who require their items to
be delivered and signed for at the actual address on the package. It
is called Forge and Steal.

In the event our driver can not obtain a signature at the delivery
address, or can't find the delivery address, or simply needs some
extra cash, they are now authorized to sign a name (we have a computer
copy of your name, or a close neighbor's name, already on file),
remove the contents from the package, and delivery the contents to the
nearest Pawn Shop.

The monies received for the pawned package contents are considered
compensation for the driver. He or she is required to report it on
their income tax as "tips". UPS management feels tips are an important
part of our employee's compensation package, and support this service
fully.

You will receive a listing of all the Pawn Shops in a nine-state area.
Feel free to contact them regarding the status of your package
contents.

We don't paint out trucks brown for nothing, you know.

UPS Customer Service,
Ossining, NY

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Re: Pentax Soft Focus for Sale

2001-10-18 Thread Rob Studdert

On 17 Oct 2001, at 22:32, Chris Brogden wrote:

> On Thu, 18 Oct 2001, Paul Jones wrote:
> 
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1286747961
> > 
> > If a PDML member buys it then i'll pay the insurance.
> 
> We had a long discusion about shipping and insurance a few months ago, and
> I found out that the seller seems to be legally responsible for getting
> the item to the buyer. 

Not so, depends where you are located and what your status is as a seller, 
see:

http://pages.ebay.com.au/help/community/png-user.html

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
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RE: OT Virus

2001-10-18 Thread Mick Maguire

Mine fired as the mail was delivered John. I did do an update to my
definitions the day before yesterday too. I use outlook for my mail, I don't
know what you use, but it may intercept it at a different point. I also
don't use the mail screening feature of Zone Alarm.

Regards,
/\/\ick...

++
||
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(_/)  ICQ: 48609010  |
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  \  /---+



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Coyle
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 12:59 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: OT Virus


Yeah, right. Is there anything later than 6 days ago?
I did say I was using the latest set, and this thing has been around for
months.
Maybe they did not fire because I did not open it?

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia


On Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:59 AM, Mick Maguire [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
wrote:
> John Coyle wrote:
> >Norton's nor ZoneAlarm stopped it
>
> Norton stopped it on my machine, perhaps you should get an update to your
> virus definitions.
>
> Regards,
> /\/\ick...
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Re: LX Meter Readout

2001-10-18 Thread Rob Studdert

On 17 Oct 2001, at 22:49, William Robb wrote:
> However, I have no idea of how
> fine the shutter speeds are stepped (I don't believe they are
> continuously variable, but very finely stepped), which matters
> in this sort of discussion.

For all intents and purposes it is a continuously variable system as the 
meter and control circuit of the LX is analogue in design not digital.

Cheers,

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RE: MZ-s (serial numbers)

2001-10-18 Thread Paris, Leonard

Thanks Bruce!  Do you think Pentax codes more into the serial numbers than
they tell us about?  Or do they start up with high numbers to confuse the
opposition about their production?  I've always wondered why camera
manufacturers never seem to start at serial number 1, or 001. They could
get a lot of attention from collectors, if they did.

Anyway, that's just an idle thought.

Len
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From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MZ-s


The serial # is seven digits long.

Bruce Dayton


> > Bruce Dayton
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Re: Re: MZ-5n-tiny

2001-10-18 Thread David Brooks

Brendan.I was at the downtown store looking at
a 35-70 and 80-200 for the digital(both used).I to 
had a bad experience in the fact of,both lenses
were filthy and in need of a good CLA,and i'd been tryinh
to get there for 3 weekends.Does not say much for their
quality control.Head of used blamed it on the guy
who received the trades not looking at them well enough.
For the most part the Steeles store is usually good to me
but not every one is suited for the job they do.
Good luck with finding your equipment

Dave

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Subject: Re: MZ-5n-tiny


Which Henrys did you go to? I just had a rather bad
experience ( normally they are quite good ) with the
Markham store on Steeles just on Monday. 


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Re: "Not another Camera"

2001-10-18 Thread Mike Steele

"It only a camera, dear.not ANOTHER WOMAN!!!"
Great selectiongreat bargain..good luck! Mike
Steele

--- Bob Rapp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   My wife is getting sick of surprises (not the type
> she really wants)! I
> have done it, yet again, Bid and won a camera on
> ebay. A Spotmatic of all
> things! I have 2 already plus 7 K mounts from a K2
> to even a P5!
>   My basic Spotmatic (those of you who know me know I
> refer to them as
> "Funtaxes") system includes the SMC 28 f3.5 35 f3.5
> 35 f2.0 55 f1.8 and a 85
> f1.8. The main reason I went after it is because it
> included 3 lenses and
> the most significant is the SMCT 135 f2.5. This is
> the same lens as the K135
> f2.5 some of us have.
>   The set also includes a SPII, SMCT 55 f1.5, ST 200
> f4, Metz 30BCT4 and even
> a "Pentax Way" book. All this for 152.50.
>   But, you know, there is no magic like a Spotmatic
> out in the bush. Yes it
> takes more time and you cannot consume a roll of
> film in under 6 seconds,
> but the keepers out number those images that are
> pitched.
>   Flowers are in order tomorrow as I will break the
> new to her. Wish me well
> and such.
> 
> Bob Rapp
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Re: Re: OT - Dodge Darts (was: I'm still alive!)

2001-10-18 Thread David Brooks

When we moved out of the city 25 years ago my wife
did not want to drive her Honda Civic in the winter
(lots of snow and ice up here)so i bought her a used
1973 Chrysler Newport Custom.400, 4 barrel land yacht.
I always said the gas guage worked as a reverse tach.in that
step on the gas and watch it dive.
Great car,kept here alive in a 4 car crash days before our
wedding.

Dave

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From: "JeffW." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 18:57:15 -0500
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT - Dodge Darts (was: I'm still alive!)


But compared to some of the other Mopar products it was economical. 
My 73
Dodge Charger, 400 big block V8 with dual 4's, headers, etc got about 
10 mpg
at 55mph, 7mpg at 80 and about 4mpg topped out. Now that's a gas 
guzzler!
Sold it to a friend who rolled end over end about 3 times and still 
walked
away. 

JeffW. 


> Frank,
> 
> Yes, the Dodge Dart is a great compromise between economy and 
performance -
> the worst of both worlds!  Mine, too, is the slant six - the thing 
can
> barely get out of it's own way (while still somehow managing awful 
fuel 
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Re: Lowepro Micro Trekkers - opinions?

2001-10-18 Thread Wendy Beard

>On 17 Oct 2001, at 17:15, Cotty wrote:
>
> > I'm thinking of snapping up a Micro Trekker 200 that's on special offer
> > near me. Does anyone have any firm opinions on these? I was very
> > impressed with Rob Studdert's Lowepro packed with gera when we met,
> > although I forget which actual model he had...
> >
> > I only want something small that will take one or two bodies and up to
> > four lenses plus a few bits, nothing much. Size is important (as the
> > actress said to the bishop) but in this case, I want it compact.

Like Rob, I have the mini trekker. I find it just a touch too large for me. 
It fits two bodies including lenses plus 6 lenses or flash or whatever as 
well as having the whole front part for film, filters, hoods and stuff. If 
I was choosing again I'd go for the size smaller (but I don't like lugging 
around loads of gear).
They are nice packs.

Wendy

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RE: Chrome ES

2001-10-18 Thread Bob Rapp

I saw one of thers babies at KEH. Their price 599.00!!!

Well done

Bob

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Re: I'm still alive!

2001-10-18 Thread Camdir

In a message dated 18/10/01 12:09:25 GMT Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<  hit a cow driving a Triumph Spitfire at night doing 100kphthe cow and 
I
 walked away, the car didn't. That was scary. >>

Norm.

You could sideswipe a gerbil in a Spitfire and still total the car. British 
engineering at it's best.

Kind regards from sunny Brighton

Peter
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Re: Newbie

2001-10-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff

Hi Francis ...

Any lens Pentax ever made will work with the K body, even old screw
mount lenses with the appropriate Pentax adapter.  However, newer
lenses, like auto focus lenses, won't be able to use all their
high-tech features, and they'll have to be focussed manually. But
they'll fit and they'll work.

As for a choice of prime lenses, price and speed might be important
considerations.  Here are a few suggestions without regard for price
and speed:

SMCP 24/2.8
SMCP 28/3.5
SMCP 35/3.5
SMCP FA 43/1.9 Ltd
SMCP 50/1.4 or SMCP-M 50/1.4
SMCP FA 77/1.8 Ltd
SMCP 85/1.8
SMCP 105/2.8
SMCP 120/2.8
SMCP 135/2.5
SMCP-M 150/3.5
SMCP-A*200/2.8

Hope this helps.

Francis Alviar wrote:

> I am a newbie to the line of Pentax cameras 
> not to mention a newbie to the wonderful world 
> of photography.  Recently I have been given 
> two K1000 bodies with 50mm lens attached plus 
> a vivitar 24mm lens.  I have various questions 
> and I hope that some of you will take the time 
> to answer them.  First, what type of lens will 
> fit into the K body?  Am I limited to only manual 
> focus lenses?  Is there a 24-105mm lens available 
> for this camera?  Were I to get prime lenses which 
> ones would you recommend from 24mm on up to 200mm? 
-- 
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Re: Newbie

2001-10-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Francis M. Alviar asked in one long line of text:
> been given two K1000 bodies with 50mm lens attached plus a
> vivitar 24mm lens.  [...]
> First, what type of lens will fit into the K body?  

"All of the above"  :-)  You need an adaptor to use screwmount
lenses (uh, folks, there's also an adaptor for medium-format
lenses, right?) but you can use any version of the K-mount on
the K-1000.  Autofocus, manual focus, "A", non-"A", whatever.
Welcome to Pentax!

> Were I to get prime lenses which ones would you recommend 
> from 24mm on up to 200mm?  

Personally I'm rather partial to the M 85/2, but I've heard
that other Pentax 85mm lenses are even better.  

-- Glenn
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Re: Newbie

2001-10-18 Thread tom

rancis Alviar wrote:
> 
> Greetings all,
> 
> I am a newbie to the line of Pentax cameras not to mention a newbie to the wonderful 
>world of photography.  

Welcome aboard.

> Recently I have been given two K1000 bodies with 50mm lens attached plus a vivitar 
>24mm lens.  I have various questions and I hope that some > of you will take the time 
>to answer them.  First, what type of lens will fit into the K body?  
 
Anything with a k-mount. 

> Am I limited to only manual focus lenses? 

No, *any* k-mount ever made will work, theoretically.

> Is there a 24-105mm lens available for this camera? 

Probably at least a dozen.

> Were I to get prime lenses which ones would you recommend from 24mm on up to 200mm?  

Uh oh.

Anything that says Pentax SMC. Since you have the 50 and 24, you might
look for a 135. The M 135/3.5, K 135/2.5 and any A, F or FA would be
good too.

An 85 would be an option too, though they're a little less common. Same
with a 100mm. I just recommended the 135 since they're so common...

Have a look here:

http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/

Good luck.

tv
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Re: Got one!(Was Lowepro Trekkers)

2001-10-18 Thread Camdir

In a message dated 18/10/01 15:48:04 GMT Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Indeed, I could see no use for the waist straps 
 either, seeing as they annoyingly stroked my nipples, >>

Cotty - are you saying that your breasts have become pendulous, or are the 
waist sraps misnamed?

Kind regards

Peter
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Re: More UPS Crap I Hate UPS

2001-10-18 Thread William Robb

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> One solution might be to have UPS packages delivered to a
business address.
> It need not be your own business, but one with which you make
arrangements to
> accept deliveries for you. You'll need to use their address
rather than your
> own for the sender. Your name, c/o the business name. I have
all packages,
> whether postal or UPS, delivered to my office address.

A far better solution is to not support the company with my
business. Normally, I specify that shippers should use anyone
but UPS when shipping to me, but I forgot on this occassion. As
I have never had a happy experience with a UPS delivery, I think
this is the best approach. I don't trust them to do the job with
any degree of competance.
Here is my bitch list:
Goods damaged in transit (twice).
Charging brokerage fees on shipments where there were no
applicable duties (at least 3 times).
Being slower than the post office (every time).
Having a Byzantine claims department, thereby ensuring that it
is not worthwhile to file a claim for damages or reimbursement
for unjustified brokerage fees. (5 times).
Abandoning expensive photographic equipment (a pentax spotmeter)
on my front door step (once).
Delivering packages to an address other than the one specified
without permission (twice).
Failing to deliver packages to an address other than the one
specified after being instructed to do so, and indicating they
would make the addrss change (once)
Having a Byzantine customer service department, thereby
guaranteeing you can never talk to the same person twice, and
also ensuring there can be no credibility demanded of the
company (ongoing company policy).
UPS delivers, if your lucky.
William Robb
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Re: Got one!(Was Lowepro Trekkers)

2001-10-18 Thread William Robb

Peter, are you sure this went to the right mailing list?


> << Indeed, I could see no use for the waist straps
>  either, seeing as they annoyingly stroked my nipples, >>
>
> Cotty - are you saying that your breasts have become
pendulous, or are the
> waist sraps misnamed?
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Re: Newbie

2001-10-18 Thread Brendan

The K-1000 will accept any K mount lens ever made,
even the new Auto Focus ones ( it just won't autofocus
), Tamron has a 24-135mm lens but there are many
28-105mm lenses out there. To find lenses any camera
store that deals with 35mm SLRs will have them, pawn
shops too. You already have 2 good basic prime lenses,
the 50mm and the 28mm, a 200mm F4 should not be hard
to find nor should it be to expensive either, alother
option is a 135mm lens, there are many of these around
to for cheap.

--- Francis Alviar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greetings all,
> 
> I am a newbie to the line of Pentax cameras not to
> mention a newbie to the wonderful world of
> photography.  Recently I have been given two K1000
> bodies with 50mm lens attached plus a vivitar 24mm
> lens.  I have various questions and I hope that some
> of you will take the time to answer them.  First,
> what type of lens will fit into the K body?  Am I
> limited to only manual focus lenses?  Is there a
> 24-105mm lens available for this camera?  Were I to
> get prime lenses which ones would you recommend from
> 24mm on up to 200mm?  My questions would qualify as
> "duh" questions but I am sorting things right now
> and getting ideas from various people and hopefully
> in the future will add more lenses to my minimal
> collection.  Thank you for your input/comments and
> be assured that all comments/information are
> welcomed and most definitely needed.
> 
> Have a great day!!
> 
> 
> Francis M. Alviar
> Irvine, CA
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RE: fill flash and slow sync flash -- and fooling your flash (kin d of long)

2001-10-18 Thread Peifer, William [OCDUS]

Hi Nenad, E-man, Darryn, et al

Glad to have been of some help.  I hope I've left you with fewer questions
than you started with.  For me, the easiest way to think about fill flash is
to consider the camera (body and lens) as totally separate and independent
from the flash unit.  I use the meter in the camera body exclusively to
measure ambient light for the background, and set aperture and shutter speed
on the camera so that the background will be correctly exposed.  I then set
my flash unit to one of the automatic modes, where I can use the sensor on
the flash foot to measure the intensity of the flash (which of course will
only illuminate the foreground subject).  My Sunpak flash units have
switches to change both the film speed and the aperture, in case I need that
kind of flexibility.  If I want 1:1 lighting, I set these switches to the
"true" values.  If I want less fill-flash, I set one or the other of these
switches accordingly.  (For instance, set the aperture to one stop wider
than the lens is really set to, or set the film speed to twice the actual
speed of the film I have loaded.  Either of these choices gives me one stop
less foreground illumination.)

Nenad has the right idea for using TTL flash metering, I think -- set the
camera to manual, then meter the background and adjust shutter and aperture
for proper exposure (with film speed set to the ~correct~ value), and THEN
manually change the film speed setting on the camera body to fool the flash
TTL circuitry into delivering a less powerful flash of light.  As Nenad has
suggested, it's possible to do the requisite tricks by setting the flash to
TTL metering.  It just makes the arithmetic a bit more fiddly, and you have
to think a little about what you're doing a bit more.  I usually find it
easier to set the flash unit to auto instead of TTL, then make the
adjustments to the switches on the back of the flash unit.  Many, but not
all, flash units offer you this kind of flexibility.

Emmanuel was last trying to figure out how to fool his AF-330FTZ into
delivering the correct fill ratio.  As I understand, this particular flash
has contrast control.  Isn't contrast control supposed to take care of
fill-flash ratio, or does it just allow you to balance lighting from a
master and slave flash?  (Which is another problem entirely)  E-man,
you'll have to look at your manual on this one.  Otherwise, you might want
to try Nenad's technique.  By the way, if you have to change film speed
instead of aperture, a 2x change in film speed will be equivalent to a
one-stop change in aperture.  For example, suppose your camera is actually
loaded with 400-speed film.  If you can convince your flash unit that you're
really shooting 800-speed film instead of 400-speed film (e.g., by manually
changing the ASA setting on your camera body to an "incorrect" value of
800), the flash discharge will only be half as bright (i.e., one stop less
light).

Darryn sounds like he's got the right idea -- he simply worked through the
arithmetic in the reverse direction with respect to what I did.  (He
calculated for the foreground first, and then the background.  Works just as
well.)  At the distance to his foreground subject, a full-power discharge
from his flash would properly illuminate the foreground subject if he set
the lens to f/11.  At this aperture, he would need to set the shutter speed
at 1/15 sec to properly expose the background.  Everything worked fine.  If
Darryn wanted one stop less foreground, but a properly illuminated
background, he could have set his aperture to f/16 and his shutter speed to
1/8 -- a very tricky proposition if you're hand-holding the camera.  If
Darryn wanted to use a faster shutter speed, he could set his flash to a
lower-power manual discharge (don't know if this is possible on the
AF-200T).  Alternatively, he could set his flash to one of the auto modes
and use the method I describe.

Hope this helps.

Bill Peifer
Rochester, NY
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Re: Newbie

2001-10-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff

Tom, have you forgotten that screw mount lenses will work with the
appropriate Pentax adapter?

tom wrote:

> First, what type of lens will fit into the K body?
> 
> Anything with a k-mount.

-- 
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Re: More UPS Crap

2001-10-18 Thread Gerald F. Cermak

And after a UPS inside job relieved my repaired LX from a box sent by Pentax
CO, UPS has now marked my house a security risk, and won't leave anything
anywhere unless they actually have someone from inside the house sign for it
in person.  That is really annoying, as I'm never home when they choose to
deliver.  (This is the same LX that arrived the next day in my mailbox,
wrapped in a clear plastic bag and rubber bands, after I started claim
proceedings at UPS and Pentax CO).

I avoid UPS at all costs after that.

Cheers,
Gerald


- Original Message -
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pentax Discuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 12:03 AM
Subject: More UPS Crap


> I got a reply from UPS regarding that shipment that they left
> with my neighbor.
> The gist of it is that they leave the decision about whether to
> deliver to the addressee or just abandon it with someone in the
> neighborhood up to the individual driver.
> My concerns on the subject were not addressed by the replying
> email from UPS, though they did thank me for using their
> internet inquiry service.
> If anyone is curious, I have posted their email as a text file
> on my website, at:
> http://www.accesscomm.ca/users/wrobb/UPS_Crap.txt
>
> Thay really are a bogus organization (IMHO).
> William Robb
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Re: Newbie

2001-10-18 Thread tom

I said "anything with a k-mount". A screw mount adapter is a thing with
a k-mount, isn't it?

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> 
> Tom, have you forgotten that screw mount lenses will work with the
> appropriate Pentax adapter?
> 
> tom wrote:
> 
> > First, what type of lens will fit into the K body?
> >
> > Anything with a k-mount.
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RE: Delivery question

2001-10-18 Thread Paris, Leonard

Now, Norm.  Don't ask logical questions like that. ;-)
Obviously, he didn't want his wife to know what was in
the package. :-)

Len
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-Original Message-
From: Norman Baugher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 8:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Delivery question


If someone's home why would you not take the package??
Norm

Anand DHUPKAR wrote:

> I did it totally different way.
> I called them and told them there is not going to be anybody home, hence,
> don't deliver - I will collect it from their office.  Their office is
pretty
> closeby, so it is OK with me.  They are kind of funny though !
> They say they can't do it like that - they have to attempt one delivery.
I
> then tell my wife not to attend the door-bell !!  So, she has to peep
> through window
> "who it is - fadex delivery ? don't attend." thing makes her mad at me, of
> course !  but a better way than to lose something worth couple of hundred
> $s.
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Re: Newbie

2001-10-18 Thread David Brooks

Hi and welcome to Pentax and the list.The K1000 is a great
camera(i have one)and there are plenty of lenses etc.
Check out this link

http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/

lots of info.

Dave

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From: Francis Alviar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Recently I have been given two K1000 bodies with 50mm lens attached 
plus a vivitar 24mm lens.  I have various questions and I hope that 
some of you will take the time to answer them.  First, what type of 
lens will fit into the K body?  Am I limited to only manual focus 
lenses?  


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Re: Newbie

2001-10-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff

Ahh ... nit picking time 

Actually, you said "... anything with a k-mount"  in response to "...
what type of ~LENS~ (emphasis mine) will fit into the K body?"  Is an
adapter a lens? 

tom wrote:
> 
> I said "anything with a k-mount". A 
> screw mount adapter is a thing with
> a k-mount, isn't it?

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RE: More UPS Crap I Hate UPS

2001-10-18 Thread John Francis

> Here is my bitch list:

(list of problems deleted)

The main reason I don't use UPS stems from one (long) incident.

My wife was returning to the East Coast to attend the wedding of
one of the girls from her Girl Scout troop.  She had been asked
to make the wedding cake.  This involved some amount of preliminary
preparation, and quite a lot of supplies, equipment, etc. to be
shipped across the country to complete the final presentation.

We sent the stuff UPS air freight.  Or, at least, that's what we
paid for.  The tracking number indicated that the packages were,
in fact, being shipped by surface freight - we could track them
in and out of the various depots across the country. We, of course,
complained - although we had left several days of slack in the
shipping, we didn't have the extra week it would take.  UPS claimed
they had no way to correct the shipment midway; we'd just have to
wait for the package to arrive.  They could scan it at each of the
remaining waypoints, but they had no way to pull the package out.
The shipment eventually arrived at the local main depot around
midnight on the Friday - still (just) in time for the Saturday
wedding.  There wouldn't be time for my wife to do much of the
fancy decoration, but at least she'd have the cake topper, the
presentation stand, etc.  Or she might have done, except for the
fact that the truck containg the parcel wasn't scheduled to be
unloaded until the following Tuesday. The UPS central customer
service number wouldn't give us the phone number of the local
depot, so we didn't find out this last detail until far too late.
(When someone eventually drove down there and talked to the local
manager he was outraged, but by then all the staff had left).

To add insult to injury - UPS's idea of appropriate recompense
for if not ruining the wedding, at least taking the icing off
the cake :-) was to offer to refund us the difference between
surface and air shipping.



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Re: Bodies Roll Call Results UPDATE 127

2001-10-18 Thread Chaso DeChaso

Z-1 is list favorite.

There are 150 LX's but if you total all the variants
of the (P)Z-1's and (Z)PZ-1p's, you get 154!

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Re: Newbie

2001-10-18 Thread tom

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> 
> Ahh ... nit picking time 

I think your watch is stuck there.

I'll concede your point.

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Asahi Digital Disposable Camera

2001-10-18 Thread Steve Knobbe

I don't think I've seen this mentioned on this list, but I thought some
of you might be interested (or at least dumbfounded). 

http://asia.cnn.com/2001/TECH/ptech/10/11/disposable.digital.cameras.idg/index.html

Steve
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Re: Bodies Roll Call Results UPDATE 127

2001-10-18 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: "Chaso DeChaso" <
Subject: Re: Bodies Roll Call Results UPDATE 127


> Z-1 is list favorite.
>
> There are 150 LX's but if you total all the variants
> of the (P)Z-1's and (Z)PZ-1p's, you get 154!

I suppose by this logic, you could list all the Spotmatic
variants and surmise that with 164 units the Spotmatic is most
popular. And since all the cameras built on the K chassis are
variants of the Spotmatic (the only significant difference being
the lens mount), we could add in another 201 units to make a
total of 365 units for the Spotmatic in all it's variants.
Or, we could trust that the manufacturer changes the nameplate
for a reason..
Time to go out now.
William Robb
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Re: Bodies Roll Call Results UPDATE 127

2001-10-18 Thread Chaso DeChaso

You may have a point.  Nah...all those Spotmatics are
too different to be lumped together, although some of
their individual totals could defensibly be combined
into one grouping of a similar enough camera to be
called the "same."  I'll have to think about it.  And
lumping ALL the K's together is going too far, sir!  I
would concede that the Z-1 and Z-1p may be different
enough not to be considered the same, although that's
not how I see it.  Regarding your unconditional trust
of nameplates, would you honestly say that the LX and
LX2000, for instance, are really "different" cameras
just because the manufacturer named them in those ways
for marketing reasons?  And surely we can all agree
that a K1000 is essentially equivalent to a K1000SE
without heading down some terrifying slippery-slope. 
In any case, it isn't terribly important and I
wouldn't get too upset about it.

--- William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Chaso DeChaso" <
> Subject: Re: Bodies Roll Call Results UPDATE 127
> 
> 
> > Z-1 is list favorite.
> >
> > There are 150 LX's but if you total all the
> variants
> > of the (P)Z-1's and (Z)PZ-1p's, you get 154!
> 
> I suppose by this logic, you could list all the
> Spotmatic
> variants and surmise that with 164 units the
> Spotmatic is most
> popular. And since all the cameras built on the K
> chassis are
> variants of the Spotmatic (the only significant
> difference being
> the lens mount), we could add in another 201 units
> to make a
> total of 365 units for the Spotmatic in all it's
> variants.
> Or, we could trust that the manufacturer changes the
> nameplate
> for a reason..
> Time to go out now.
> William Robb
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RE: Newbie

2001-10-18 Thread Mark Roberts

See Stan's Pentax lens page for lots of user comments on Pentax lenses.
You can spend hours reading this stuff (I know - I have!) Fascinating and
very useful.

http://www.concentric.net/~Smhalpin/


-- Original Message --

>Greetings all,
>
>I am a newbie to the line of Pentax cameras not to mention a newbie to
the
>wonderful world of photography.  Recently I have been given two K1000 bodies
>with 50mm lens attached plus a vivitar 24mm lens.  I have various questions
>and I hope that some of you will take the time to answer them.  First,
what
>type of lens will fit into the K body?  Am I limited to only manual focus
>lenses?  Is there a 24-105mm lens available for this camera?  Were I to
get
>prime lenses which ones would you recommend from 24mm on up to 200mm? 
My
>questions would qualify as "duh" questions but I am sorting things right
>now and getting ideas from various people and hopefully in the future will
>add more lenses to my minimal collection.  Thank you for your input/comments
>and be assured that all comments/information are welcomed and most definitely
>needed.
>
>Have a great day!!
>
>Francis M. Alviar
>Irvine, CA



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Re: More UPS Crap

2001-10-18 Thread Rodger Whitlock

On Thu, 18 Oct 2001 at 11:03:57 +0200, Norman Baugher 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ranted: 

> William Robb wrote:

> > I got a reply from UPS regarding that shipment that they left
> > with my neighbor.
> > The gist of it is that they leave the decision about whether to
> > deliver to the addressee or just abandon it with someone in the
> > neighborhood up to the individual driver.

> They made that decision because it was cheaper to pay the insurance
> on lost or stolen stuff than to have the driver try and return to do
> their job, which is supposed to be delivering packages to the
> intended recipient...

Actually, all the delivery services have one problem in common: they 
deliver to residential addresses during the day when no one's at 
home. Doing so was fine back in the fifties when Ozzie went to work 
and Harriet screwed the delivery man, but Harriet went to work as a 
corporate lawyer, so nobody's at home.

When will some delivery service wake up to the fact that they need to 
do residential deliveries in the evenings and on weekend?

As for UPS being a bogus organization: my sentiments exactly. Never 
use UPS for anything. (UPS = United Parcel Service, not US Postal 
Service)

I rejoice that I once got the better of them.
-- 
Rodger Whitlock
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
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Re: UPS

2001-10-18 Thread Camdir

<< One solution might be to have UPS packages delivered to a business 
address. 
 It need not be your own business, but one with which you make arrangements 
to 
 accept deliveries for you >>

OK - we'll do it. 
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RE: Asahi Digital Disposable Camera

2001-10-18 Thread Skofteland, Christian

It was mentioned earlier but died a quick death.  

Christian Skofteland


> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Knobbe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> 
> 
> I don't think I've seen this mentioned on this list, but I 
> thought some
> of you might be interested (or at least dumbfounded). 
> 
> http://asia.cnn.com/2001/TECH/ptech/10/11/disposable.digital.c
ameras.idg/index.html

Steve
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Re: More UPS Crap

2001-10-18 Thread Robert Harris

Rodger Whitlock wrote:

 
> Actually, all the delivery services have one problem in common: they 
> deliver to residential addresses during the day when no one's at 
> home. Doing so was fine back in the fifties when Ozzie went to work 
> and Harriet screwed the delivery man, but Harriet went to work as a 
> corporate lawyer, so nobody's at home.

Don't overgeneralize. This Ozzie is at home all day, working and also 
waiting for the deliverywoman. So I am quite happy with daytime 
deliveries since my wife returns home in the evening. :)

Bob
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Re: Got one!(Was Lowepro Trekkers)

2001-10-18 Thread Cotty

>Cotty - are you saying that your breasts have become pendulous, or are the 
>waist sraps misnamed?
>
>Kind regards
>
>Peter

Big LOL! Yah, I forgot to mention that this Micro Trekker pack is very 
small, really, and I am very tall, really. Six feet five in fact. So, the 
supposed waist strap just about crosses my torso at the sternum (is that 
right? the bit where the rib cage halves join together) - so *nearly* 
nipple territory. In fact I have read of others less lofty than myself 
also scoffing at this waist strap. The pack really isn't tall enough to 
warrant one IMO.

Actually, pendulous isn't far off - I've gotta get on that boody mountain 
bike!

But before that I've got to go and clear the purchase with the Finance 
Director in our house. I did some overtime tonight, so that's a few extra 
points. I normally operate in Stealth Mode, gently easing ideas of new 
gear in, slowly clearing the weeds of suspicion. In this instance, I 
might try and up front attack because it's what she's least expecting. 
Plus I'm feeling bold. Watch this space.

Cotty

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Fill Flash

2001-10-18 Thread dick graham

The MZ/ZX 5n fill technique has been described before, but bears 
repeating.  Simply put your camera in manual mode and set the exposure for 
the ambient background, turn flash on for TTL and turn the exposure 
compensation dial on the camera to - 1, or what ever value you 
desire.  Very easy. Even easier is to use a diffuser , such as the Stoffen 
Omni Bounce, on your flash.  Because it eats up about 1 1/2 stops of 
exposure you don't have to make any corrections on the camera or the 
flash.  Just set manual exposure for the ambient background turn on the 
flash and shoot. I have both the white and gold colored Omni's for my 
Sunpack 444D.

DG
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RE: Pentax Soft Focus for Sale

2001-10-18 Thread Frits J. Wüthrich

Chris,

Is this an ebay rule? Is there a link to it?

Frits Wüthrich


Chris Brogden:
>
> On Thu, 18 Oct 2001, Paul Jones wrote:
>
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1286747961
> >
> > If a PDML member buys it then i'll pay the insurance.
>
> We had a long discusion about shipping and insurance a few months ago, and
> I found out that the seller seems to be legally responsible for getting
> the item to the buyer.  Insurance makes it easy for the seller if the item
> is lost, but the lack of insurance doesn't mean that the seller is freed
> from their responsibility... it just means that the seller has to
> reimburse the buyer out of his/her own pocket.  So even if the buyer
> doesn't want insurance, it's still in the seller's best interests to
> purchase it.  Interesting, eh?  I bet that would come as a surprise to
> most eBayers... it surprised me when I found out!  :)
>
> chris
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Re: More UPS Crap

2001-10-18 Thread William Robb

> Rodger Whitlock wrote:
>
>
> > Actually, all the delivery services have one problem in
common: they
> > deliver to residential addresses during the day when no
one's at
> > home. Doing so was fine back in the fifties when Ozzie went
to work
> > and Harriet screwed the delivery man, but Harriet went to
work as a
> > corporate lawyer, so nobody's at home.

While a broad generalization, there is a lot of truth to this.
However, the delivery companies are probably aware of this
problem, as they all have a method of telling the adressee that
they have a parcel, without actually completing the delivery.
If they are going to take on the responsibility of residential
deliveries, then they should also have protocols in place to
ensure that they can complete their contracted responsibilities
without putting customers goods at risk of theft or damage.
Abandoning a box on someones front step in plain view is not, in
my opinion, a responsible delivery method.
William Robb
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RE: OT Virus

2001-10-18 Thread Frits J. Wüthrich

I received it for the second time from Jeepgirl, so perhaps after all I can
feel honoured...
Zonealarm isolated it the second time as well. This time I just deleted it,
instead of having McAfee figuring out if it is safe or not, and what the
virus is.

Frits Wüthrich


John Coyle:
> Jeepgirl hasn't fixed it yet - I just got one saying "I send you
> this document
> for review", which I didn't even open.  Oddly, Norton's nor
> ZoneAlarm stopped
> it, which they have done before - and, yes, I do have the latest Norton
> patches.
>
> John Coyle
> Brisbane, Australia
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 17, 2001 6:41 PM, Ed
> [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> > I think jeepgirl may have a virus or a worm. :( I received an e-mail
> > from her with an attachment identical to one I received last week saying
> > something like, "Hi How are you?  I send this for your review"  I forget
> > the exact words.  I deleted it immediately and did not reply.  Jeepgirl:
> > Check it out, please.  Sorry to mention it on the list
> > herebut.If I'm wrong - I'm really sorry.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ed
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RE: OT Virus

2001-10-18 Thread Frits J. Wüthrich

I emailed her directly, to inform her about it, but only got a new virus
from her. Well, from her machine.

Frits Wüthrich

Robert Harris:
>
> Frank Theriault wrote:
>
> > ... this
> > virus is obviously sending stuff out from her e-mail address without her
> > knowledge...
>
>
> If this thing still is traveling from her computer it would seem she
> does not know it is there, even though it started a couple of days ago.
> Has anybody contacted jeepgirl about it directly?
>
> Bob Harris
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Re: OT Virus

2001-10-18 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: "Frits J. Wüthrich"
Subject: RE: OT Virus


> I emailed her directly, to inform her about it, but only got a
new virus
> from her.

At least she cares...

WW
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RE: More UPS Crap

2001-10-18 Thread Mick Maguire

Robert Harris wrote:

>Don't over generalize

I don't think that Rodger Whitlock's comment was so much over generalization
as misogyny! I for one found the "Harriet" comment very offensive >8-|

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RE: Is this a good idea?

2001-10-18 Thread Frits J. Wüthrich

I think it is a good idea, that is why I also started it a while back. Now I
am also hosting a page for Martin Trautman, although that one has no prices,
you might want to take a look at that as well.

http://www.wuthrich.cc/links/pentax-lens.xls
http://www.postkoets.btinternet.co.uk/links/martin/martin.htm

Frits Wüthrich


Juan J. Buhler:
>
> Every time I find a lens I'd consider buying, I have to research
> its price,
> usually looking at this lists archive, ebay past auctions, etc.
>
> So I put together this page:
>
> http://www.jbuhler.com/pprice.html
>
> Where we could list prices of lenses we bought or sold, and we
> could use as a
> reference when looking for a specific lens.
>
> The greedy part of me says this is a bad idea, and could stop
> bargains from
> happening. My sensible side says it's a good idea, since I usually don't
> really want to rob people of their lenses, and people who want to research
> the price of a lens would be able to do so regardless of the existence of
> this page anyway.
>
> So, if you feel like this is a good idea and have data to
> contribute, email
> it to me. Hopefully this will be more popular than the "PDML favorite
> locations" list I started a few months back, which got a
> mind-boggling 2 or 3
> answers total.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Juan J. Buhler
> http://www.jbuhler.com
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Re: OT Virus

2001-10-18 Thread tom

Apparently she had Macafee installed, but not sufficiently up to date.
Or something.

In any case she's aware of it in the process of fixing it.

tv

"Frits J. Wüthrich" wrote:
> 
> I received it for the second time from Jeepgirl, so perhaps after all I can
> feel honoured...
> Zonealarm isolated it the second time as well. This time I just deleted it,
> instead of having McAfee figuring out if it is safe or not, and what the
> virus is.
> 
> Frits Wüthrich
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Another MZ-S found his home

2001-10-18 Thread Matjaz Osojnik

Hi gang,

I just feel the urge to brag myself a bit. My MZ-S just arrived 
yesterday. :)  So far, it feels very good indeed. I really look 
forward to try it out in the next days.

With that, my MZ-3 went into my girlfriends hands. Finally she has a 
camera of her own too.

Cao, Matjaz
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Re: Another MZ-S found his home

2001-10-18 Thread Bill Owens

Congratulations!  I'm sure you will truly enjoy using it.  I did a lot of
soul searching before getting mine, wondering if I could really justify the
expense.  I've found it to be an ideal camera, and so easy to use.

Bill, KG4LOV
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> Hi gang,
>
> I just feel the urge to brag myself a bit. My MZ-S just arrived
> yesterday. :)  So far, it feels very good indeed. I really look
> forward to try it out in the next days.
>
> With that, my MZ-3 went into my girlfriends hands. Finally she has a
> camera of her own too.
>
> Cao, Matjaz
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RE: More UPS Crap

2001-10-18 Thread Frits J. Wüthrich

Last week my 400mm f5.6 SMC-A arrived from the USA with USPS EMS, insured up
to $500 for $38.75 from the USA to the UK. We were not at home, so they left
a card in the mail box, with a phone number. I called them I wanted to pick
the item up, but they couldn't stop it for another delivery attempt. That
time it was successful. Else there was also an option to have it shipped to
my nearest post office for a £0.50 ($0.70) fee, or pick it up myself from
their station. Not too bad for the UK I think.

Frits Wüthrich


William Robb:
> > Rodger Whitlock wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Actually, all the delivery services have one problem in
> common: they
> > > deliver to residential addresses during the day when no
> one's at
> > > home. Doing so was fine back in the fifties when Ozzie went
> to work
> > > and Harriet screwed the delivery man, but Harriet went to
> work as a
> > > corporate lawyer, so nobody's at home.
>
> While a broad generalization, there is a lot of truth to this.
> However, the delivery companies are probably aware of this
> problem, as they all have a method of telling the adressee that
> they have a parcel, without actually completing the delivery.
> If they are going to take on the responsibility of residential
> deliveries, then they should also have protocols in place to
> ensure that they can complete their contracted responsibilities
> without putting customers goods at risk of theft or damage.
> Abandoning a box on someones front step in plain view is not, in
> my opinion, a responsible delivery method.
> William Robb
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New leather coverings for Pentax bodies

2001-10-18 Thread Bob Wilkinson

Several different leather covers are now available for Pentax bodies
(Spotmatic,
LX, K1000, ME Super).   These have been very popular with Olympus owners
for
some time, and come in a variety of colors and finishes (including snake
and lizard).

For info, look at:

http://homepages.together.net/~msparks/pentax/pentax_l.htm


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RE: LX Meter Readout

2001-10-18 Thread Geoff Moes

Does anyone know what the maximum shuter length is on the LX on 
auto. I have read somewhere (the manual I think) that it is 250 
seconds, however, I also remember reading on the web some one 
sayingthat they did a 45 minute exposure on auto.  Also is this 
something that changed over course of production.

Thanks,

Geoff


From:   "Skofteland, Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject:RE: LX Meter Readout
Date sent:  Thu, 18 Oct 2001 09:14:48 -0400
Send reply to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> From everything I've read on the LX I've only found that the indicated
> shutter speed when you are in "Automatic" is an approximation since the
> speeds are "stepless".  I rarely use the automatic mode but recently I
> decided to test the limits in rapidly changing light.  If anyone is
> interested I threw this web page together this morning:
> http://photography.skofteland.net/lx_meter.htm
> 
> Christian Skofteland
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Re: New leather coverings for Pentax bodies

2001-10-18 Thread Brendan

Tan snake skin LX Drool! Hey Aaron I think I
see a christmas gift.


--- Bob Wilkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Several different leather covers are now available
> for Pentax bodies
> (Spotmatic,
> LX, K1000, ME Super).   These have been very popular
> with Olympus owners
> for
> some time, and come in a variety of colors and
> finishes (including snake
> and lizard).
> 
> For info, look at:
> 
>
http://homepages.together.net/~msparks/pentax/pentax_l.htm
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Re: I'm still alive!

2001-10-18 Thread Frank Theriault

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> You could sideswipe a gerbil in a Spitfire and still total the car. British
> engineering at it's best.

Hee-hee!  My favourite British automotive nickname relates to Lucas, who did the
electrical system for most if not all Brit cars.  They were known as "The Prince
of Darkness".

Who needs to drive at night anyway?  :-)

-frank
--
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it is true." -J. Robert
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Re: More UPS Crap

2001-10-18 Thread John Mustarde

On Thu, 18 Oct 2001 12:14:46 EDT, you wrote:

>One solution might be to have UPS packages delivered to a business address. 

Sssshit, that's the worst method of all. The UPS driver most assuredly
know the names of several people at your business address who can sign
for packages, and has probably mastered several of their signatures
already.

Check it out for yourself. Look for packages left in unattended areas
when the counter person or shipping person is out of the area. They'll
be properly "signed for" and the UPS driver will have some lame excuse
about how he can't remember who signed for it (even though he and the
signor are first cousins and used to live together) and he can't even
remember delivering it (even though he delivered it yesterday whilst
the warehouse next door was burning to the ground and it was raining
toads) and how "your" people are always signing someone else's name.

I feel safer if they toss it in the yard as they drive by at high
speed, compared to the chances of actually receiving a personal
package at a place of business.

--
John Mustarde
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RE: LX Meter Readout

2001-10-18 Thread Rob Studdert

On 18 Oct 2001, at 16:57, Geoff Moes wrote:

> Does anyone know what the maximum shuter length is on the LX on 
> auto. I have read somewhere (the manual I think) that it is 250 
> seconds, however, I also remember reading on the web some one 
> sayingthat they did a 45 minute exposure on auto.  Also is this 
> something that changed over course of production.

Hi Geoff,

The LX metering is specified to be accurate to 125 seconds in auto but has 
been proven my many list members to be far more capable than that 
specification. I believe Pål Jensen has made many 30+ exposures using an 
LX and I regularly use mine in situations where the exposure in in the order of 
5 to 10 minutes.

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
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Re: More UPS Crap

2001-10-18 Thread UDPug

In a message dated 10/18/01 5:18:15 PM Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< >One solution might be to have UPS packages delivered to a business 
address. 
 
 << Sssshit, that's the worst method of all.  >>

LOL! Maybe we're just "lucky" here. City of 100,000 in an economically 
depressed rather isolated area of Texas. UPS drivers hold on to their jobs 
for dear life. In 20 years of having packages delivered to my office, which 
does have several employees, there's never been a problem. Perhaps we're an 
exception though.

Phyllis T
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Re: LX Meter Readout

2001-10-18 Thread Aaron Reynolds

On Thursday, October 18, 2001, at 04:57  PM, Geoff Moes wrote:

> Does anyone know what the maximum shuter length is on the LX on
> auto. I have read somewhere (the manual I think) that it is 250
> seconds, however, I also remember reading on the web some one
> sayingthat they did a 45 minute exposure on auto.

Like Rob, I've done five and ten minute exposures, as well as some 
twenty minute ones.  All were quite good.

Meter accuracy is probably less important than the film's reciprocity 
failure at exposures that long.  That said, I shot slides for those long 
exposures, and they were right on.

-Aaron
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Re: New leather coverings for Pentax bodies

2001-10-18 Thread Mark Roberts

Outstanding! I love the commentary that goes with his descriptions, too: 

"The K-1000 in Antique Brown Snakeskin. This is the same type of skin that Leica
puts on their special edition M6's. Depending upon your instructor, this kit
will get you a better grade in Photography class, or it may get you thrown out."

Bob Wilkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Several different leather covers are now available for Pentax bodies
>(Spotmatic,
>LX, K1000, ME Super).   These have been very popular with Olympus owners
>for
>some time, and come in a variety of colors and finishes (including snake
>and lizard).
>
>For info, look at:
>
>http://homepages.together.net/~msparks/pentax/pentax_l.htm

-- 
Mark Roberts
www.robertstech.com
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Re: New leather coverings for Pentax bodies

2001-10-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff

Some of these are really gorgeous ... have you seen the Olympus page?

Mark Roberts wrote:
> 
> Outstanding! I love the commentary that goes with his descriptions,
> >For info, look at:
> >
> >http://homepages.together.net/~msparks/pentax/pentax_l.htm

-- 
Shel Belinkoff
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Re: More UPS Crap

2001-10-18 Thread Treena Harp

Living in a somewhat rural area, we've also had some interesting delivery
dilemmas. But since my other half is a cop, we just have anything worth a
significant amount sent to the police department. You'd be amazed at the
service you get from drivers when they know they're delivering something to
a police station.

- Original Message -
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: More UPS Crap


> > Rodger Whitlock wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Actually, all the delivery services have one problem in
> common: they
> > > deliver to residential addresses during the day when no
> one's at
> > > home. Doing so was fine back in the fifties when Ozzie went
> to work
> > > and Harriet screwed the delivery man, but Harriet went to
> work as a
> > > corporate lawyer, so nobody's at home.
>
> While a broad generalization, there is a lot of truth to this.
> However, the delivery companies are probably aware of this
> problem, as they all have a method of telling the adressee that
> they have a parcel, without actually completing the delivery.
> If they are going to take on the responsibility of residential
> deliveries, then they should also have protocols in place to
> ensure that they can complete their contracted responsibilities
> without putting customers goods at risk of theft or damage.
> Abandoning a box on someones front step in plain view is not, in
> my opinion, a responsible delivery method.
> William Robb
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Re: New leather coverings for Pentax bodies

2001-10-18 Thread Paul Jones

The Olympus RC's look kinda cool with the leather. I wouldnt be putting this
stuff on my Pentaxs though :)


- Original Message -
From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: New leather coverings for Pentax bodies


> Some of these are really gorgeous ... have you seen the Olympus page?
>
> Mark Roberts wrote:
> >
> > Outstanding! I love the commentary that goes with his descriptions,
> > >For info, look at:
> > >
> > >http://homepages.together.net/~msparks/pentax/pentax_l.htm
>
> --
> Shel Belinkoff
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: I'm still alive!

2001-10-18 Thread John Coyle

I once had a Hillman Minx, built like a tank until the rust got to it, which 
lost all it's electricals one dark night in the middle of a forest in Norfolk 
(England).  Nothing quite so eerie as plunging into stygian blackness at 60 
miles an hour with no recollection of whether the road stayed straight or had 
been about to curve!
Following the Minx, I had a Mini, great little car with one serious fault: 
there was a snap-together connector in the boot, which you could snag if you 
were careless putting stuff in there, and which then broke the circuit, so 
again you had no electrics.  Happened to me once when I filled the tank - so 
embarrassing to be sitting in an apparently dead car with seventy people 
queueing up behind you to get to the pumps!

Aaah, the joys of motoring.

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia


On Friday, October 19, 2001 7:15 AM, Frank Theriault 
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
>
> Hee-hee!  My favourite British automotive nickname relates to Lucas, who did
> the
> electrical system for most if not all Brit cars.  They were known as "The
> Prince
> of Darkness".
>
> Who needs to drive at night anyway?  :-)
>
> -frank
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Re: More UPS Crap

2001-10-18 Thread Robert Harris

Mick Maguire wrote:

 
> I don't think that Rodger Whitlock's comment was so much over generalization
> as misogyny! I for one found the "Harriet" comment very offensive >8-|

Huh?  The Harriet reference is, perhaps, not PC. And maybe it can be 
construed as insulting, condescending or many other negative things, 
depending on one's viewpoint and mindset. But I certainly see nothing in 
the message that even hints at "misogyny," which means hatred of women.

Bob
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Re: LX Meter Readout

2001-10-18 Thread Nenad Djurdjevic

My understanding is that the LX is specified as follows: Maximum shutter
speed of 125 seconds with 100ASA film and a f1.2 lens, set to f1.2.
Assuming the same f1.2 lens is used, slower films and/or setting smaller
f-stops increases maximum shutter speed.  For example with an f1.2 lens (set
to 1.2) and 50 ASA film it would be 250 seconds.  With a f1.2 lens (set to
f1.7 - 1 stop slower) and 100ASA film it would also be 250 seconds and so on
(Note that lenses meter wide open).

Conversely, using a 1-stop slower lens, say the 50mm f1.7 used wide open,
with 100ASA film, halves the maximum time to 62.5 seconds.  However stopping
this lens down one stop to f2.5 restores the 125 second maximum.  f3.5 makes
it 250sec, f4.5 - 500sec, f6.7 - 1000sec and so on.

Hope this helps (and I hope it's right :-).
Nenad

- Original Message -
From: Geoff Moes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 4:57 AM
Subject: RE: LX Meter Readout


> Does anyone know what the maximum shuter length is on the LX on
> auto. I have read somewhere (the manual I think) that it is 250
> seconds, however, I also remember reading on the web some one
> sayingthat they did a 45 minute exposure on auto.  Also is this
> something that changed over course of production.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geoff
>
>
> From:   "Skofteland, Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject:RE: LX Meter Readout
> Date sent:  Thu, 18 Oct 2001 09:14:48 -0400
> Send reply to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > From everything I've read on the LX I've only found that the indicated
> > shutter speed when you are in "Automatic" is an approximation since the
> > speeds are "stepless".  I rarely use the automatic mode but recently I
> > decided to test the limits in rapidly changing light.  If anyone is
> > interested I threw this web page together this morning:
> > http://photography.skofteland.net/lx_meter.htm
> >
> > Christian Skofteland
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RE: More UPS Crap

2001-10-18 Thread Mick Maguire

I know what it means Robert!... Perhaps you should re-read, particularly the
bit about Harriet screwing the delivery driver?

Regards,
/\/\ick...

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Harris
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: More UPS Crap


Mick Maguire wrote:


> I don't think that Rodger Whitlock's comment was so much over
generalization
> as misogyny! I for one found the "Harriet" comment very offensive >8-|

Huh?  The Harriet reference is, perhaps, not PC. And maybe it can be
construed as insulting, condescending or many other negative things,
depending on one's viewpoint and mindset. But I certainly see nothing in
the message that even hints at "misogyny," which means hatred of women.

Bob
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RE: More UPS Crap

2001-10-18 Thread Mick Maguire

Maybe many will think misogyny was a bit strong, at the very least it was
extremely sexist and derogatory.

Regards,
/\/\ick...

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Harris
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: More UPS Crap


Mick Maguire wrote:


> I don't think that Rodger Whitlock's comment was so much over
generalization
> as misogyny! I for one found the "Harriet" comment very offensive >8-|

Huh?  The Harriet reference is, perhaps, not PC. And maybe it can be
construed as insulting, condescending or many other negative things,
depending on one's viewpoint and mindset. But I certainly see nothing in
the message that even hints at "misogyny," which means hatred of women.

Bob
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Re: Seville

2001-10-18 Thread Martin Corro

Seville, Spain?
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Date: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:26 AM
Subject: Seville


I'm off to Seville for 4 days Any recommendations about what to see, do, 
eat.  Will take 2 bodies (maybe), 20-35mm or 28-70, 43mm for speed, 80-200.  
Anything else?

Cheers,

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Re: LX Meter Readout

2001-10-18 Thread Rofini

Nenad writes:

>My understanding is that the LX is specified as follows:
Maximum shutter
>speed of 125 seconds with 100ASA film and a f1.2 lens, set to
f1.2.

That would be the maximum specified accurate exposure. Even at
those settings, the metering system will hold the shutter open
longer as required for full exposure.

Mark Rofini
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RE: I'm still alive!

2001-10-18 Thread Bob Rapp

I had a Hillman back is the early sixties. I could not kill it until it
killed itself. Twisted axle shaft did it in and there were no parts
available in the States. I believe the car was a 1954 model. Surprisingly,
the Price of Darkness did not pay me a visit.

Bob
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Re: I'm still alive!

2001-10-18 Thread Rfsindg

'61 Sunbeam Alpine.  
Like Norm, I spent more hours underneath it than driving it.  
There was a great J shaped radiator hose that burst every 6 months.  The 
wonderful Lucas system quit as soon as the least bit of moisture showed up 
under the hood.
So not only did it overheat, but it just plain quit.  I remember driving to 
work one day when it just stopped.  I popped the hood (bonnet for you 
English) and pulled the wire from the distributor cap.  I cranked the engine 
and no spark!   Lucas, Prince of Darkness.  I wished I'd had Bosch 
electronics.

Regards,  Bob S.

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<< I had a Hillman back is the early sixties. I could not kill it until it
 killed itself. Twisted axle shaft did it in and there were no parts
 available in the States. I believe the car was a 1954 model. Surprisingly,
 the Price of Darkness did not pay me a visit.  >>
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Re: I'm still alive!

2001-10-18 Thread Dave Maki

Antti-Pekka Virjonen wrote:
... accidents like this are pretty scary.
> 
 I cannot describe how it feels to be alive.

I am glad you are both fine, Antti-Pekka.  About 16 years ago I
was a passenger in a car that was pushed off the highway by a
large road construction grader that was travelling in the next
lane and wobbled at the wrong time.  The car rolled a couple of
times and evenually burned down to the frame.  We got out with
broken bones and cuts.  
That "good to be alive" feeling lasts a very long time.

-- 
Dave Maki

Calgary, Alberta
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RE: Pentax Soft Focus for Sale

2001-10-18 Thread Chris Brogden

On Thu, 18 Oct 2001, Frits J. Wüthrich wrote:

> Chris,
> 
> Is this an ebay rule? Is there a link to it?

I'm not sure what eBay's official policy is.  What I wrote below is
apparently the gist of Canada and the US's law regarding transactions
between a buyer and seller where shipping is involved.  I don't pretend to
know anything more than that.

chris


> Chris Brogden:
> >
> > On Thu, 18 Oct 2001, Paul Jones wrote:
> >
> > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1286747961
> > >
> > > If a PDML member buys it then i'll pay the insurance.
> >
> > We had a long discusion about shipping and insurance a few months ago, and
> > I found out that the seller seems to be legally responsible for getting
> > the item to the buyer.  Insurance makes it easy for the seller if the item
> > is lost, but the lack of insurance doesn't mean that the seller is freed
> > from their responsibility... it just means that the seller has to
> > reimburse the buyer out of his/her own pocket.  So even if the buyer
> > doesn't want insurance, it's still in the seller's best interests to
> > purchase it.  Interesting, eh?  I bet that would come as a surprise to
> > most eBayers... it surprised me when I found out!  :)
> >
> > chris
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Re: Seville

2001-10-18 Thread Doug Brewer

The Plaza de España is well worth a visit, as is the adjacent park. If you get time to 
visit outside the city, I'd recommend Arcos de la Frontera, an absolutely stunning 
puebla blanca not too awfully far away.

Doug



At 10:14 AM +10/18/01, MZ3_fella _  wrote, or at least typed:
>I'm off to Seville for 4 days Any recommendations about what to see, do, eat.  
>Will take 2 bodies (maybe), 20-35mm or 28-70, 43mm for speed, 80-200.  Anything else?
>
>Cheers,
-- 
Douglas Forrest Brewer
Ashwood Lake Photography
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http://www.alphoto.com
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Re: More UPS Crap

2001-10-18 Thread Tom Rittenhouse

Well, I have always insisted the the proper pronounciation of UPS  (to mix
in another thread) is Oops!

But at least Oops can deliver to my house which Airborne Express insists
doesn't exist and returns all packages to the sender.
--graywolf
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