Re: Flash Delima-Please Help

[mike wilson]

Hi,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I don't think this is what you need for 100mm lens portraits.  Something like the 
>wide angle adapter may give you light bounced off the room.  I'd try the rubbing 
>alcohol bottle or plastic milk carton as a diffuser.  Something to spread that light 
>for a bounce.

Another option:  Take one of the white, translucent film tubs. 
Use the lid for something else.  Cut the bottom off.  Make a
slit from top to bottom.  With a bit of adjustment, you can now
feed the cut ends into the slots on the top and bottom of the
flash output window.  Diffuser for free!  If you use a Fuji tub,
the pictures may have a green cast but Kodachrome ones come out
perfectly.  Joke.

> You should always use the TTL setting on your flash with the Super Program.  This 
>measures the light after moving thru your lens and into your camera body.  In effect, 
>it knows whether you are using a 100mm or a 24mm lens on the camera and adjusts the 
>output of the flash.  With the red and green settings, you measure the light bounced 
>back to the flash body and turn off the flash there... no adjusting for that 100mm 
>lens!  These settings are available so you can use the flash with 'dumb' cameras that 
>don't have Thru-The-Lens flash sensors.

There is also the possibility with auto settings and diffusers
that some of the light emitted might go direct to the auto
sensor, causing underexposure.  Sto-fen gives instructions on
how to avoid this.

mike
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Re: New Tokina 60-120mm f/2.8 and 28-70mm f/2.8

[MPozzi]

Unfortunately, I do not kno more. It was on the
photozone site. Perhaps its on the tokina site?

sorry couldn't be of more help
Michele


--- Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Tokina has also shown a prototype of the AF
> 60-120mm f/2.8 AT-X at
> > the PhotoExpo 2002 in Japan.
> 
> Do you know any more details on it, or know of any
> links with
> details to it?  It ~could~ be a really interesting
> lens.  I do know
> that the manual focus Tokina AT-X 60-120/2.8 is a
> ~great~ portrait
> lens, but I am going to assume that the new lens'
> optical design may
> be different from the one-touch focus/zoom ring
> setup on the MF
> version.
> 
> Fred
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PhotoExpo - so nothing new from Pentax?

[Lawrence Kwan]

PhotoExpo 2002 is now underway.  No sign of any new releases yet - no
digital SLR and no new limited; only an official launch of Optio 230.

Here's a live web cam from Pentax web site:
http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/product/webcamera/index0203.html

They have a plain small booth.  Not sure if there is any chance for them
to have something in store for 2nd or 3rd day.

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Re: Another 67 Arrival

[Oliver Raymond]

muuussttt sleee... doh!
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From: "Stan Halpin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 12:39 AM
Subject: Re: Another 67 Arrival


> You brotherhood guys are really into this "big is little" thing aren't
you!
> Good try, but you can't convince me that 4.5kg = 2 lbs. I would say you
are
> off by about a factor of 5? Of course, why let simple math get in the way
of
> enlightenment? ;-) Especially at this time of night.
>
> Stan
>
> > From: "Oliver Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 22:15:18 -0500
> > Subject: Re: Another 67 Arrival
> >
> > Hey Bruce.
> >
> > The lens is handholdable - it's weight and dimensions aren't too far off
the
> > 55-100, which I always hand-hold (up to about 1/60). .
> ...
> >
> > 55-100 = 1,210g (replaces)
> > 55[725g]75[560g]90 [485g]105[590g] =   2360g
> > 90-180 =  1160g (replaces)
> > 90[485g]105 [590g]165 [835g]   200 [795g] =  2705g
> ...
> > Now, add a touch of glass...Add on a 2x tele, and I have 55 - 360 in
three
> > lenses
> > 2xtele   560g
> > 55-1001210g
> > 90-1801160g
> > =
> > 3030g
> > Plus Prism, Body
> > +   1660g
> > =
> > 4690g  = 4.5k = 2 lbs
> >
> >
> > My path to enlightenment :)
> >
> > Olvier
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RE: Re: OT: New Epson scanners ?

[Antti-Pekka Virjonen]

At 12:16 21.3.2002 -0500, Dave wrote:
>If you want to see even more improvement, download VueScan (if you don't already use 
>it).  It's faster, better and more robust than using the Twain software that comes 
>with most scanners.  
>
>I believe it may provide better scans than the Silverfast software that comes with 
>the Epsons.

This sounds interesting. I'll have to try this as well. I have been under
the impression that the Silverfast (5.x) is the best you can get :-)

Antti-Pekka

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Re: OT: New Epson scanners ?

[Antti-Pekka Virjonen]

At 11:42 21.3.2002 -0500, Brendan wrote:
>Actually I need to retact what I said about the Epson
>1680 before. I just got the new drivers for XP and the
>scan quality has improved greatly. This was the first
>test with the new drivers and the out of focus
>problems are gone, this scan was only reduce in size,
>no unsharp mask or colour correction nothing.
>
>http://webhome.idirect.com/~trini/flowers2/por.jpg
>
>a simple driver update.

Great news!

I have gotten good reports about the 1680 and was a bit
puzzled why you did not get the same results. Do you use
the Epson's own Twain or the fantastic Silverfast 5 ?
This is also the first report of 1680 with XP. I will
be using Win2K...

I did order my 1680 Pro yesterday, so I am even more happy
now ;-)

I'll be scanning mostly 6x9cm and 4x5" slides and those
occasional 35mm... 

Antti-Pekka

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Re: 67 Mania / "shake?"

[David A. Mann]

Bill D. Casselberry wrote:

>  ... that 40 pound 800mm f4 for the 6x7 is massive enough to
>  effectivly danp any vibration from the superb goliath-sized 
>  mirror/shutter mechanisms -  !;^D

 Just in case you wanted to hand-hold it.

Cheers,


- Dave

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RE: 67 Mania gaining foothold, victim needs help!

[David A. Mann]

Malcolm Smith wrote:

> All noted. I have had a quick look at UK prices (swallows hard) and
> wonder if camera shop websites abroad or my wife's enemy eBay will be
> worth a look.

 That's why I want to take my RB67 kit to the UK to sell :)  The damn 
things are almost worthless down here.

Cheers,


- Dave

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Re: R: March 2002 PUG Comments (and a Question)

[David A. Mann]

Evan Hanson wrote:

> Do you use a browser to view the photos before you send
> them.  I've found there is often a slight difference in how
> my pictures look when I view them with photo imaging
> software (gimp or photoshop) and browsers.  I don't know why
> this is but if I had to make a guess I would think it
> probably has something to do with how they read the jpg
> compression.  Maybe someone with more technical expertise
> can shed some light on this.

 On Windows at least, some photo editing software uses different 
gamma settings to the system, which usually makes the image look 
brighter.

 Photoshop 5.0 or later (full versions only) also uses colour 
profiles which the system does not (well, not for display).

Cheers,


- Dave

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Re: 67 Mania gaining foothold, victim needs help!

[David A. Mann]

Bolo wrote:

> 5) What is the highest shutter speed on the leaf shutter lens(s)? 
> 1/500? When using the leaf shutter lens does the body sync the flash
> correctly?

 I think 1/500 is the fastest shutter speed.  You need to set the 
body to 1/8.

> 6) I have read that mirror and shutter vibration are a big problem
> with the Pentax 67 bodies.

 I use mirror lockup as much as I can, even handheld.  The shutter 
does not vibrate the camera much at all.  Most of the vibration comes 
from the mirror.  With mirror lockup all the shaking happens after 
the shutter has closed.  Good tripod technique also helps a lot.

> 7) Some things that I've read say that the camera and lenses have two
> bayonets, an "inner" bayonet and a "outer" bayonet.

 The outer bayonet is for the really big lenses such as the 600mm f/4 
and 800mm f/4, and possibly the 1000mm f/8 mirror lens.  The outer 
bayonet is fully manual so you must stop the lens down manually.

 There are two types of extension tube available.  A set of three for 
the inner bayonet and a set of two for the outer.  There's also a 
helicoid extension tube available, and even a gigantic bellows, both 
inner-bayonet I believe.  There is no teleconverter available for the 
outer bayonet - those lenses are long enough already ;)

> 8) Any lenses to stay away from?  Any particularly outsanding ones
> (yes, I already know about Aaron's 75mm f/2.8 :)?  Any recommendations
> for any particularly good pairs or triplets of prime lenses?

 The 45mm f/4 is a jewel.  Small light and oh-so-sharp.  I've also 
tried the older 300mm f/4 lens and this is also really good.  I would 
have bought a 165/2.8 today but the dealer found fungus in it when I 
phoned :(

> 9) Is the film loading particularily onerous, or is it comparable to
> 6x6 TLR bodies?

 Loading is not a problem for me.  Unloading is a bit harder than my 
previous system (Mamiya RB) but I'm getting used to it.  It just 
seems a bit easier to fumble.  Sometimes I wonder if the door should 
be hinged on the left, so the opening could give my fingers better 
access to the exposed film.

> 9) Any other good questions to ask which I haven't? :)

 The 6x7 takes a weird battery that, where I am, is hard to find and 
quite expensive.  The 67II takes 2CR5 batteries which are easy to 
find but still expensive.

 There's a trick to being able to release the shutter without film in 
the camera.  That's all I can think of for now...

Cheers,


- Dave

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Re: Another 67 Arrival.

[David A. Mann]

William Robb wrote:

> Actually, I don't really do a lot of formal lens testing. Just
> go out and take pictures with it.

 That's essentially what I did when I got my 6x7 Tak 300mm f/4.  I 
tried lens-test charts a year or two ago with some 35mm lenses; 
they're a bit fiddly to use and don't tell you much anyway.

> If you want to compare it for resolution, contrast, et. al.,
> photograph some tree branches that are far away and see if they
> are resolved equally. This is as good a test as I have ever
> found.

 I took a few frames of a local high school building which turned out 
to be the perfect subject.  It has a small clock tower in the middle, 
a good contrast test.  Red bricks, ivy growing on it, and some carved 
stonework for checking detail.  High-contrast borders around the 
windows for checking colour fringing at the edges of the frame.

 The building faces the cricket field which gives me heaps of space 
for testing long lenses while getting the whole clock tower in-frame. 
 If I ever regain access to my web account I might show a picture of 
this building.

Cheers,


- Dave

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Re: 50mm F1.2A

[David A. Mann]

Mark Roberts wrote:

> So...Pentax no longer makes the A-50/1.2.
> 
> And a new Limited lens is due soon.

 Remember the lens that came with the LX2000?

Cheers,


- Dave

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Ebay - MZ-3 & 43mm Limited Black

[gabriel bovino]

FYI... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1341128816
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Re: Abreviations

[T Rittenhouse]

If I Recall Correctly. There are dozens of sites that will tell you what an
internet acronym means do a search. One of them is
ttp://www.ucc.ie/info/net/acronyms/acro.html

Ciao,
Graywolf
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- Original Message -
From: Butch Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Pentax discussion group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 11:09 PM
Subject: Abreviations


> Hi.
>
> I have managed to figure out most of the abbreviations but can't for the
> life of me figure "IIRC". Someone should make a commonly used abbreviation
> list to post in the archives.
>
> BUTCH
>
> "Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself"
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FA: Friday FS Announcement

[Rob Studdert]

Hi Team,

I've just popped in momentarily to toot my own horn, I have some of my excess
Pentax kit and acessories on eBay at the moment and I will be listing some
really nice lenses later next week.

I have also added some new information to my LX grip page at:

http://www.home.aone.net.au/audiobias/

You may find the following auction of particular interest, no reserve and 
starting at US$150:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1341128816

My current auction list can be seen by clicking on the link below.

Rob Studdert (eBay ID: distudio)

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AUSTRALIA

Tel +61-2-9554-4110
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Re: Another 67 Arrival

[Stan Halpin]

You brotherhood guys are really into this "big is little" thing aren't you!
Good try, but you can't convince me that 4.5kg = 2 lbs. I would say you are
off by about a factor of 5? Of course, why let simple math get in the way of
enlightenment? ;-) Especially at this time of night.

Stan

> From: "Oliver Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 22:15:18 -0500
> Subject: Re: Another 67 Arrival
> 
> Hey Bruce.
> 
> The lens is handholdable - it's weight and dimensions aren't too far off the
> 55-100, which I always hand-hold (up to about 1/60). .
...
> 
> 55-100 = 1,210g (replaces)
> 55[725g]75[560g]90 [485g]105[590g] =   2360g
> 90-180 =  1160g (replaces)
> 90[485g]105 [590g]165 [835g]   200 [795g] =  2705g
...
> Now, add a touch of glass...Add on a 2x tele, and I have 55 - 360 in three
> lenses
> 2xtele   560g
> 55-1001210g
> 90-1801160g
> =
> 3030g
> Plus Prism, Body
> +   1660g
> =
> 4690g  = 4.5k = 2 lbs
> 
> 
> My path to enlightenment :)
> 
> Olvier
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Re: How is Russian glass?

[Debra Wilborn]

This is so annoying.  I keep seeing really cool
Russian lenses on ebay.  Just as I decide I simply
must have it, lo and behold, it's in screw mount.

--- Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Another lenses worth trying are IMHO: Peleng 8mm
> >f/3,5 FishEye
> >(circular) and Arsat 35mm f/2,8 Shift. Both have
> >good opinions in the
> >March issue of "Practical
> > Photography"
> > Greetz
> > Artur
> 
> I wish they made that 35 shift lens in k-mount. I'd
> sure sign up for
> one. But that's why the Russian products aren't
> doing better. They
> aren't making what the market wants, either because
> it hasn't occurred
> to them that that's how this works, or because they
> don't have the
> resources to produce it in a new mount.
> 
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Re: OT: New Epson scanners ?

[Timothy Sherburne]

Thanks Brendan. The art dept of the company I work for just got a 1680 Pro
w/ transparancy cover, but I'm doubtful of using a flatbed scanner for 35mm
negatives. Looks like I'll need to give it a try! Sure beats the heck out of
my Astra 2100 and minilab prints.

t

On 3/21/02 8:33 PM, Brendan wrote:

> This is from the neg, at 600 dpi originally. I should
> mention the shot
> was taken on a mono pod at 1/20 F4 thru a glass barier
> on Fuji 800
> press during the 2002 Toronto Enduro so it wasn't that
> sharp to begin
> with and this looks better than the mini lab print.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Timothy Sherburne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Brendan - What format did you scan this from? Print
>> or neg or slide?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> t
>> 
>> On 3/21/02 8:42 AM, Brendan wrote:
>> 
>>> Actually I need to retact what I said about the
>> Epson
>>> 1680 before. I just got the new drivers for XP and
>> the
>>> scan quality has improved greatly. This was the
>> first
>>> test with the new drivers and the out of focus
>>> problems are gone, this scan was only reduce in
>> size,
>>> no unsharp mask or colour correction nothing.
>>> 
>>> http://webhome.idirect.com/~trini/flowers2/por.jpg
>>> 
>>> a simple driver update.
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Re: OT: New Epson scanners ?

[Brendan]

This is from the neg, at 600 dpi originally. I should
mention the shot
was taken on a mono pod at 1/20 F4 thru a glass barier
on Fuji 800
press during the 2002 Toronto Enduro so it wasn't that
sharp to begin
with and this looks better than the mini lab print.




--- Timothy Sherburne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Brendan - What format did you scan this from? Print
> or neg or slide?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> t
> 
> On 3/21/02 8:42 AM, Brendan wrote:
> 
> > Actually I need to retact what I said about the
> Epson
> > 1680 before. I just got the new drivers for XP and
> the
> > scan quality has improved greatly. This was the
> first
> > test with the new drivers and the out of focus
> > problems are gone, this scan was only reduce in
> size,
> > no unsharp mask or colour correction nothing.
> > 
> > http://webhome.idirect.com/~trini/flowers2/por.jpg
> > 
> > a simple driver update.
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Re: Abreviations

[Doug Franklin]

On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 23:09:02 -0500, Butch Black wrote:

> life of me figure "IIRC". 

If I Recall Correctly

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Re: WTB 5p sync cord Long

[Brendan]

I'm just trying to get it for cheap, Here it's $119 at
B&H it's $54
but I should visit Pentax Canada since I want a new
focusing screen
for my PZ-20. The shoot should take place at the end
of March since
the weather has gone from bad to worse . But I'll try
and get some
shots in before then.


--- Pat White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Brendan, have you checked the price at Pentax
> Canada?  They're at 3131 Universal Drive, north off
> Dundas, just west of 427.  You can buy all sorts of
> stuff, like SMC filters, straps, sync cords, PC
> adapters, and who knows what else.
> 
> I stopped by there a few weeks ago to buy a manual
> for my MZ-S (misplaced it when I moved), and they
> gave me one for free!  The service/sales desk people
> are very friendly and helpful, and they have most
> things in stock.
> 
> When are you doing your model shoot?
> 
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RE: Abreviations

[J. C. O'Connell]

IF I RECALL CORRECTLY
JCO

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Butch Black
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 11:09 PM
> To: Pentax discussion group
> Subject: Abreviations
>
>
> Hi.
>
> I have managed to figure out most of the abbreviations but can't for the
> life of me figure "IIRC". Someone should make a commonly used abbreviation
> list to post in the archives.
>
> BUTCH
>
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Abreviations

[Butch Black]

Hi.

I have managed to figure out most of the abbreviations but can't for the
life of me figure "IIRC". Someone should make a commonly used abbreviation
list to post in the archives.

BUTCH

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Re: Another 67 Arrival.

[William Robb]

- Original Message -
From: Oliver Raymond
Subject: Another 67 Arrival.


> Recieved the new 67 90-180 f.5.6 lens yesterday morning.
Picked it up from
> KEN in 'LN-' - came with that new hood (VERY nice) and soft
case. Impossible
> to tell from new. Gotta love KEH's grading!
>
> Same build quality as the 55-100 f4.5, smooth focussing and
zoom.
>
> Was going to do some comparison shots versus prime lenses
(105, 135, 165),
> but I just sold my ATL1000, and the new ATL3 hasn't arrived
yet - so results
> will have to wait a wee while.
>
> Aaron \ Doug \ Bill - do you have any particular format or
standards for
> testing results? I don't have a densiometer :(

You should send the lens to Aaron, who will test it, then pass
it on to me for further study...

Actually, I don't really do a lot of formal lens testing. Just
go out and take pictures with it.
If you want to compare it for resolution, contrast, et. al.,
photograph some tree branches that are far away and see if they
are resolved equally. This is as good a test as I have ever
found.

William Robb
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Re: Flash Delima-Please Help

[Alan Chan]

> >  Pentax did not make a diffuser for the AF200T, as there are no
> > slots for it to slide on.
>
>Mine's got slots and the diffuser/tele adaptor for the 280T
>fits.

200T and 280T use the same wide angle (covers 24mm) and tele adaptors. I 
have the wide angle myself.

regards,
Alan Chan


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Re: pancake question

[T Rittenhouse]

I will sell mine for $125 + actual priority mail cost.  So that seems like a
good price from a store.
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto/_images/M40mm-28.jpg
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto/_images/M40mm-28a.jpg

Ciao,
Graywolf
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From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 5:38 PM
Subject: pancake question


> I've seen a 2.8 40mm pancake at a local shop for $200 Cdn (that would be
> about $130US, give or take), with a 6 month warranty.  I'm sorely
> tempted.
>
> I had the pleasure of using Wendy's for a couple of weeks, and I have to
> say, I loved it.  Over and above the fact that it's so compact, and
> matches the MX so nicely in size, I found it to be a very sharp
> distortion free lens.  Use hyperfocus at about f16, and it's a focus
> free lens from, what, about 2 or 3 feet out?  Great for street
> photography (if only I were good at it!).
>
> There's currently one on eBay for over $200US, and Henry's has another
> starting at $150US (no bids yet).
>
> Just looking for opinions as to whether circa $135US is a good price.
>
> thanks,
> frank
>
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> pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert
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Re: Another 67 Arrival.

[Bruce Dayton]

Oliver,

Congrats!  So, I wanna know how big this little beauty is.  Is it hand
holdable or does it need at least a monopod?


Brother Bruce



Thursday, March 21, 2002, 4:05:36 PM, you wrote:

OR> Recieved the new 67 90-180 f.5.6 lens yesterday morning. Picked it up from
OR> KEN in 'LN-' - came with that new hood (VERY nice) and soft case. Impossible
OR> to tell from new. Gotta love KEH's grading!

OR> Same build quality as the 55-100 f4.5, smooth focussing and zoom.

OR> Was going to do some comparison shots versus prime lenses (105, 135, 165),
OR> but I just sold my ATL1000, and the new ATL3 hasn't arrived yet - so results
OR> will have to wait a wee while.

OR> Aaron \ Doug \ Bill - do you have any particular format or standards for
OR> testing results? I don't have a densiometer :(

OR> Thanks,
OR> Oliver
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Re: What did you end up photographing this weekend?

[Timothy Sherburne]

For something just as hilarious, run the page through the Russian-English
translator at  and read the comments...

t

On 3/21/02 3:15 PM, Denis Klimovich wrote:

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Another 67 Arrival.

[Oliver Raymond]

Recieved the new 67 90-180 f.5.6 lens yesterday morning. Picked it up from
KEN in 'LN-' - came with that new hood (VERY nice) and soft case. Impossible
to tell from new. Gotta love KEH's grading!

Same build quality as the 55-100 f4.5, smooth focussing and zoom.

Was going to do some comparison shots versus prime lenses (105, 135, 165),
but I just sold my ATL1000, and the new ATL3 hasn't arrived yet - so results
will have to wait a wee while.

Aaron \ Doug \ Bill - do you have any particular format or standards for
testing results? I don't have a densiometer :(

Thanks,
Oliver
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Re: Graywolf's Site

[Doug Franklin]

On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 13:15:25 -0500, Aaron Reynolds wrote:

> Tom, are you sharpening before or after reducing them in size?  I would 
> suggest sizing them down, making your adjustments and then sharpening 
> last.

Sharpen last.

Explore the channels of the CMYK and CIE*Lab color model
representations of the image.  Often, USM can be applied to selected
channels in one or the other color model to reduce the appearance of
sharpening artifacts and avoid sharpening things you don't want to,
like noise in the dark areas.

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
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Re: Graywolf's Site

[Doug Franklin]

On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 11:40:52 -0500, T Rittenhouse wrote:

> Any comments on how to fix these problems that does not involve money are
> welcome, in fact solicited.

Never save with JPEG until the final save of the finished product.  All
masters, working masters, and work in progress should be saved as an
uncompressed format or one with lossless compression.  I generally use
TIFF or PNG.  Only when I create the Web version of an image do I save
as JPEG.

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
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Re: AF with manual focus lens???

[Len Paris]

You are just missing an autofocus teleconverter.  That's all you
need to autofocus a manual focus lens on an AF body.

Len
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locking his keys in his car... the other is a rare picture of
Norman Rockwell beating up a child." - S.W.


> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1340415983
>
> In his description he says you can use a manual focus lens on
an AF body and
> it will autofocus.
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> Christian Skofteland
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RE: What did you end up photographing this weekend?

[Denis Klimovich]

http://www.penta-club.org/cgi-penta-c/ikonboard/topic.cgi?forum=21&topic=1
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Re: pancake question

[Nitin Garg]

On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 05:38:00PM -0500, frank theriault wrote:
> 
> There's currently one on eBay for over $200US, and Henry's has another
> starting at $150US (no bids yet).

keh has one listed in exc condition for 199 USD.
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Re: SMC-M 135mm/f3.5 plus SMC-M 35mm/f2 or SMC-A 35mm/f2.8

[Rfsindg]

Francis,

The M 135mm f3.5 is a small, sharp telephoto.  It is really too hard to work with for 
indoor portraits.  It takes you too close and is too slow.  I've used it most outdoors 
to photograph landscapes and things.  It makes it easy to isolate your subject matter 
from the rest of the clutter.  Kids or candids can be good as this lens moves you far 
away from most people's personal space and makes you unobtrusive.  Of course, this 
means you are not taking Shel's kind of candid people photos! 

I'd guess US$50-65 for a clean sample on eBay.

I have used and like the M 35/2.0 lens.  It is small, compact and delivers good 
results.  The extra speed is a plus.  Have you considered a K or A24/2.8?  I would 
stay away from the 28's except for the old K28/3.5.

Regards,  Bob S.
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Re: Black limited lens coating - does it wear?

[Pål Jensen]

Shel wrote:

IIRC, the lens barrel of the 77mm Ltd is aluminum, which indicates that
the black finish is probably anodized.  Good anodizing can be a lot more
durable than chrome.

I wonder if the silver finish on the lens is really chrome, as Pal
seemed to indicate.  The finish on my 43mm doesn't look like chrome.  I
don't believe that aluminum can be chrome plated.


REPLY:

What exactly to you mean with lens barrel? The lens barrel (strictly defined) are 
black on all Limited lenses and similar to the barrels found on the FA* lenses. Made 
of steel perhaps? Its the outer cover thats anodized. According to Herbert Keppler 
this outer body is made of brass. Keppler also had a write up on the anodizing process 
involved. I don't remember the details. 

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Re: Black limited lens coating - does it wear?

[Pål Jensen]

Tom Wrote:
You've seen one in the flesh? Alex Grigolia showed me an ad for a black 31mm in the 
Pentax Family mag, and it looked pretty glossy.


REPLY:
I have seen them in the flesh. They do indeed look pretty glossy. Pretty close to an A 
lens.

Pål
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Re: Black limited lens coating - does it wear?

[Pål Jensen]

Alan wrote:

Does that mean silver limited lenses are quite scratch resistance?


REPLY:
They are. So far, no one have come out of the closet and annonce that they have 
managed to scratch a Limited lens. That probably testify to their durability. Are 
there any FA* lenses out there without surface marks?


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Re: AF with manual focus lens???

[Bruce Rubenstein]

This is exactly what it does. AF is achieved by moving the lens elements in the
converter. It works over a limited range so the main lens has to focused to a
very rough range for the AF to work. I think a 50mm lens, without being
touched, will AF from around 5m to infinity. 
It's also a very good 1.7x converter.


--- Christian Skofteland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1340415983
> 
> In his description he says you can use a manual focus lens on an AF body and
> it will autofocus.
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Re: Graywolf's Site

[Bill Owens]

Come on over!

Also, do the unsharp mask as the very last step before saving.

Bill  KG4LOV
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- Original Message -
From: "T Rittenhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: Graywolf's Site


> Well, I redid some of the photos. I over did the unsharp mask  on some and
> the jpgs show the jaggies, I guess that is what happened to some of the
> airplane pics even before. I am finding that you have to use more unsharp
> mask when you are going to convert to jpeg, but I have not gotten it just
> right yet.
>
> Anyway, I resized, unsharp masked, and converted to jpeg. Tell me if it is
> any better. I used unsharp enough that the plaid showed on the shirt in
'One
> Eyed Cat and Friend', it was too much by far. I guess I am going
to
> have to make the trek over to redneck country and get Bill to rescan them
at
> 100 dpi. This time I will take a CD-RW along. Others that I have worked on
> are in the 'Sometimes We Make a Buck' section.
>
> I don't do too bad at this stuff when I control the scans, but I am not
very
> good at massive resizing and then making them look good.
>
> Once again everybody, thanks for the ongoing help.
>
> Ciao,
> Graywolf
> http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto
> 
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Bill D. Casselberry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 4:30 PM
> Subject: Re: Graywolf's Site
>
>
> > Tom wrote:
> >
> > > Humm? I will try that.
> >
> > yes - keep your big scan w/o irreversible changes like
> > sharpening & such. It's overkill when image size is re-
> > duced and dropped to screen resolutions. Best to "fine-tune"
> > the end result of each "smaller version" to it's use - in this
> > case, being the web - compressing/shrinking is best done to
> > the raw image w/ perhaps major color adjustments first.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > -
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> >
> > http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb
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pancake question

[frank theriault]

I've seen a 2.8 40mm pancake at a local shop for $200 Cdn (that would be
about $130US, give or take), with a 6 month warranty.  I'm sorely
tempted.

I had the pleasure of using Wendy's for a couple of weeks, and I have to
say, I loved it.  Over and above the fact that it's so compact, and
matches the MX so nicely in size, I found it to be a very sharp
distortion free lens.  Use hyperfocus at about f16, and it's a focus
free lens from, what, about 2 or 3 feet out?  Great for street
photography (if only I were good at it!).

There's currently one on eBay for over $200US, and Henry's has another
starting at $150US (no bids yet).

Just looking for opinions as to whether circa $135US is a good price.

thanks,
frank

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Re: SMC-M 135mm/f3.5 plus SMC-M 35mm/f2 or SMC-A 35mm/f2.8

[William Johnson]

Hi Francis,

I have this lens and like it a lot.  It is good for portraits, but what
I use it the most for is "walking around" candids.  Especially with
taking candids of people,  I like this lens, because it is so small and
unassuming, people think that it's just a short zoom.  It is also a
pretty good lens to take pictures of children in play.  I also have the
K135/2.5, but prefer the M135/3.5 for most things (yes, I know that the
K135/2.5 is a better lens,  but I like the smallness of the M135/3.5)

If the $95 is in US dollars, I think that's a little high. If it comes
with caps and case, and is somewhere that you can actually look at it
and you can avoid shipping costs, it's probably ok though.

I don't have any experience with the other lenses you mention.

William in Utah.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I want to ask the group what their experience is with this type of lens.  I
> know it makes for a good portrait lens with its medium telephoto range but
> what else can you use it for?  Any of you use this lens for something other
> than portraits?
> 
> Also, is $95 a good price for it at 10- condition?
> 
> I'm debating whether to get a 35mm/f2 SMC M or a 35mm/f2.8 SMC A.  Do you
> guys have either of these two lenses and what do you think of them.  Pros
> and cons.  Which is sharper of the two and does it matter?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Francis M. Alviar
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RE: Snorkelling Camera

[Matamoros, Cesar A.]

mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 4:27 AM

Hi Allen,

Allen Murray wrote:
> 
> Mike,
> 
> Were you equally disappointed with the above and below water shots? I know
> the camera is not terrific on land. 

I didn't really use it much below water.  I bought it because I
sometimes do some outdoor work in whatever the weather
conditions are and need to take pictures of sites.  A waterproof
camera seemed like a good idea and the Canon was by far the
cheapest option.

When I did play with it in swimming pools, I found that most of
the shots were grossly overexposed by the flash

Now I have a Zoom 90 WR, which has its own faults but produces
excellent pictures most of the time.  I suspect it will fail
before the A1, though.

BTW, for those who were discussing "proper" snorkelling cameras,
there is a UK (?) producer called Sea & Sea who make a few
models with attachable strobes.  They are considerably cheaper
than Nikonos' and are seen secondhand reasonably often.  It may
be a rebrand of the Reefmaster.

One of these was lost by a diver in the English channel.  It was
found about 9 months later in Scotland and the diver was traced
from the photgraphs on the processed film.

mike
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Let me chime in - while I have time...

I have used the Nikonos V for a couple of years diving.  To be
really pleased with it you will need a strobe.  Therefore many people are
better off getting a Reefmaster or Sea&Sea for a smaller less expensive
package.  For snorkelling, it would also be better because of weight.  The
Nikonos package's weight is not as noticeable underwater (diving).  I have
been very happy with the results.  It takes some gettting used to setting
the focussing distance by estimation.  But I do enjoy setting the camera
manually either using its meter or my Sekonic in a housing.  The only
limitation above water is realizing the lens being used and framing
accordingly.  I have not been unhappy with the shots taken on land.

I have also used the Nikonos IV-A.  Look for the V.  I keep the IV-A
for collecting (?) purposes.  It goes well with the I and II that I have.
Reminds me that I need to find the III to complete the collection.

Hope this helps,

César
Panama City, Florida
in Tucson, Arizona
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Re: Graywolf's Site

[T Rittenhouse]

Well, I redid some of the photos. I over did the unsharp mask  on some and
the jpgs show the jaggies, I guess that is what happened to some of the
airplane pics even before. I am finding that you have to use more unsharp
mask when you are going to convert to jpeg, but I have not gotten it just
right yet.

Anyway, I resized, unsharp masked, and converted to jpeg. Tell me if it is
any better. I used unsharp enough that the plaid showed on the shirt in 'One
Eyed Cat and Friend', it was too much by far. I guess I am going to
have to make the trek over to redneck country and get Bill to rescan them at
100 dpi. This time I will take a CD-RW along. Others that I have worked on
are in the 'Sometimes We Make a Buck' section.

I don't do too bad at this stuff when I control the scans, but I am not very
good at massive resizing and then making them look good.

Once again everybody, thanks for the ongoing help.

Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto



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From: Bill D. Casselberry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: Graywolf's Site


> Tom wrote:
>
> > Humm? I will try that.
>
> yes - keep your big scan w/o irreversible changes like
> sharpening & such. It's overkill when image size is re-
> duced and dropped to screen resolutions. Best to "fine-tune"
> the end result of each "smaller version" to it's use - in this
> case, being the web - compressing/shrinking is best done to
> the raw image w/ perhaps major color adjustments first.
>
> Bill
>
> -
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>
> http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb
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SMC-M 135mm/f3.5 plus SMC-M 35mm/f2 or SMC-A 35mm/f2.8

[Francis_Alviar]

Hello all,

I want to ask the group what their experience is with this type of lens.  I
know it makes for a good portrait lens with its medium telephoto range but
what else can you use it for?  Any of you use this lens for something other
than portraits?

Also, is $95 a good price for it at 10- condition?

I'm debating whether to get a 35mm/f2 SMC M or a 35mm/f2.8 SMC A.  Do you
guys have either of these two lenses and what do you think of them.  Pros
and cons.  Which is sharper of the two and does it matter?

Thanks.


Francis M. Alviar
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RE: RE: Re: Re: My opinion of Netscape 6.2.1

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Whoops.. 
how quickly we forget when we're embroiled in design. 
My error. 
I'm thinking of scripting and includes as per .shtml, javascript etc.  
Anywho... code (if you can even call HTML that anymore)... to spec should do the 
trick. 

Cheers,
Dave

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Hi Dave,

Just to clarify;  JSPs, Cold Fusion, and ASP are all server side having
nothing to do with the browser. These technologies use server side app
servers to parse it's language into straight html which is then sent to the
browser.

Rick




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Re: Graywolf's Site

[Bill D. Casselberry]

 Tom wrote:
 
> Humm? I will try that.

yes - keep your big scan w/o irreversible changes like
sharpening & such. It's overkill when image size is re-
duced and dropped to screen resolutions. Best to "fine-tune"
the end result of each "smaller version" to it's use - in this
case, being the web - compressing/shrinking is best done to 
the raw image w/ perhaps major color adjustments first.

Bill 

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Re: Pentax A* Versus Zenitar K 85/1.4

[Timothy Sherburne]

Nice set of comparisons. The differences in resolution and color are amazing
@ 1.4. There's no mistaking the two. How much does the Zenitar usually sell
for? 20% of the price of the A*?

t

On 3/21/02 12:40 PM, Fred wrote:

> I just put some scans of some comparison shots using the Zenitar
> K-mount 85/1.4 and the Pentax A* 85/1.4 lenses on my web site:
> 
> http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/85compar/a^-vs-zk.htm
> 
> Ya gotta love 85mm - .
> 
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Re: 67 Mania / "shake?"

[Bill D. Casselberry]

  concerning "shutter shake", Aaron wrote:
 
> If I were planning on shooting with lenses longer than 300mm, I'd
> probably purchase a Pentax 645 or 645n.  I played with the 645n and the
> 400mm once, and man, what a sweet little combo that was.
 
... but bro' ?

... that 40 pound 800mm f4 for the 6x7 is massive enough to
effectivly danp any vibration from the superb goliath-sized 
mirror/shutter mechanisms -  !;^D

Bill
  
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Re: AF with manual focus lens???

[Fred]

> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1340415983

> In his description he says you can use a manual focus lens on an
> AF body and it will autofocus.

> Am I missing something?

Christian, that is indeed the correct story.  That's not just any
ol' teleconverter - it's the Pentax F 1.7X AF Converter, which is
not just a 1.7X TC, but will also autofocus with many manual focus
lenses.  (The lenses do have to be fast enough to start with that
there's enough light left passing through the 1.7X TC for the
autofocus sensors in the AF camera body.)  It's also a pretty good
TC when used with a manual focus body, too.

Fred
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Re: AF with manual focus lens???

[Evan Hanson]

Nope.  It's the famouse autofocusing teleconverter.  Works
best with fast lenses. 

Evan

Christian Skofteland wrote:
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1340415983
> 
> In his description he says you can use a manual focus lens on an AF body and
> it will autofocus.
> 
> Am I missing something?
> 
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Pentax A* Versus Zenitar K 85/1.4

[Fred]

I just put some scans of some comparison shots using the Zenitar
K-mount 85/1.4 and the Pentax A* 85/1.4 lenses on my web site:

http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/85compar/a^-vs-zk.htm

Ya gotta love 85mm - .

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Re: mf 70-200 f 4 owners

[Fred]

> Hi Fred. Yes the add said A 70-200 f4. I have yet to see it
> though. Sorry i forgot my mind is hard to read :)

No need to be sorry, Dave - what you said was what you meant.  

However, what I said before is still valid:  "I think that $199 CDN
might be too much for the non-SMC 70-200/4's."  I do think that you
certainly should be able to get a jen-you-wine SMC 70-210/4 for that
price (or less).  While reports on the non-SMC 70-200/4's have been
pretty favorable, I personally think you would be better off picking
up an SMC A 70-210/4 lens - they certainly are not rare (so you
shouldn't have too much trouble finding one), and it is a good lens.

Fred
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Re: 50mm F1.2A

[gfen]

On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Cotty wrote:
> I am **sorely** tempted by that 50 1.2 - could be a great short portrait
> lens with a DSLR body.

I think I've been buying a new 50mm lens every other month, each time a
half stop quicker than the last (f2, 1.7, 1.4).

I just picked up an f1.4 from a list member, and then this comes along. I
almost feel like I should buy one to keep up the tradition.

-- 
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RE: 67 Mania gaining foothold, victim needs help!

[Malcolm Smith]

> Oh, I've heard that Bronica make a pretty good camera...
>
>
> bullet proof vest, night vision goggles, diving for cover :-)
>
> Cotty
>
> ___

"Heard" being the keyword! I've used Pentax for nearly two and a half
decades, why change with such a good reliable manufacturer?

Plus I like the larger 35mm camera looks, with the 67 series, rather than a
small box!

No need for the protective clothing :-)

Malcolm
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RE: AF with manual focus lens???

[Mick Maguire]

Christian wrote: "Am I missing something?"

Nope, it does what he says. the adapter provides the focusing.

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RE: Re: Re: My opinion of Netscape 6.2.1

[Rick Lamb]

Hi Dave,

Just to clarify;  JSPs, Cold Fusion, and ASP are all server side having
nothing to do with the browser. These technologies use server side app
servers to parse it's language into straight html which is then sent to the
browser.

Rick

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Re: Re: My opinion of Netscape 6.2.1


Graywolf,

If that's the case, then you'll have to conform your code to spec.
If your code is to spec, then you'll have no problem per se.

For example, at my current employ, we have to ensure that code is
appropriate for browsers from IE 4.0 and Netscape 4.0 and up.  If the end
user is using IE 3.0 (which, STILL occurs, trust me...) then they're SOL.
Personally, even IE 4.0 is old and shouldn't be supported but we do bend
because many of our clients are senior citizens and sometimes feel that they
shouldn't need to upgrade if they don't want to.

You can't please the entire world (although most Pentax users would disagree
once they get their hands on a 50mm f1.4 :)  ) especially when it comes to
Web design/layout/coding.

If the page is in standard HTML, you should have no problem as long as you
stick to spec.  It's once you get into using JSPs, Cold Fusion, and in some
cases, even XML or ASPs that you'll get into trouble.

Cheers,
Dave

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From: T Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 13:54:38 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Re: My opinion of Netscape 6.2.1


Nope, I want to use the broken browsers. The good ones are going to work ok
if my code is good. The broken ones may not so I have to check it. 

Ciao,
Graywolf
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RE: Re: My opinion of Netscape 6.2.1

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] suggested:
> You guys both may want to try Opera.

A lot of my paying work involves web research.  After Nutscrape
crashed on me one time too many, losing my place among several
open pages, I downloaded Opera.

It's more stable.
When it _does_ crash, it has a "pick up where you left off" feature.
It has additional features I find directly useful in my work.
It has some less-important features that are still a lot of fun.[*]

The first time I clicked on a folder containing 122 bookmarks
and told it "open all items in folder", and it popped up 122
windows at once and filled them without crashing, I sent in my
money for a registered copy.  That was version 4.0.  I'm using
6.01 now under WinNT and 5.0 under Linux.

For the few pages that have bizarre Opera glitches, I've got
Nutscrape 4.something and Internet Exploder 5 that were on the
Windows boxes when I got 'em, and some version of Nutscrape on
one of my Linux machines.  I've left Javascript enabled in one
copy of Netscape for those rare times when I really need to
access a site that requires Javacsript, for a job-related
research task -- any other site that requires Javascript doesn't
get me as a reader.[**]  I wind up using Lynx and Links more
often than Netscape or Internet Explorer.

> Opera seems to be the only browser (in recent memory) that does
> actually conform to proper spec laid out by the W3C.

Once I get my Mac working again, I'll be using both Opera and
iCab on it.  With iCab, it'll show you a little smiley face if
the page you're looking at actually conforms to the HTML spec,
and for the other 99.5% of the pages out there, it'll tell you
what they did wrong if you want.

As for continuing to use broken browsers for testing your own
pages to see whether they'll work for Most People, well yeah,
that's a really good idea for exactly that:  testing.  But I got
tired of relying on them to get work other than testing my own
pages done.

I'm sure there are other good browsers out there besides iCab
and Opera.  I found a couple that do what I need and stopped
looking.

-- Glenn

[*] Mouse gestures!  Wiggle the mouse a particular way, and it
opens the link under the mouse in a new window.  Wiggle it a
different way and it does the same thing as clicking the "back"
button, etc.  This is cool; this is fun; it amuses me.  It's a
_little_ bit useful from an ergonomic standpoint.  And yes, it
can be turned off.

[**] I trust Java more than Javascript, because Java, despite
the occasional security hole, is _designed_ to be safe[***]; whereas
Javascript was designed to get around the limitations that
Java's security model imposed.  An exploit using Java is a bug;
allowing untrusted code[] to scribble on your system is a
part of Javascript's design.  Though it hasn't been seen much in
the wild _yet_, there's malware in the lab that can erase
Windows and install Linux just from surfing to a website
containing it.[*]

[***] Standalone Java programs can do all sorts of stuff, but
Java "applets", which are what you can send as part of a web
page, are supposed to be restricted to a "security sandbox":
they get to make whatever mess in a restricted environment that
can't touch the rest of your computer ... or at least that's the
design -- bugs happen.

[] Exact definition depends on how paranoid^H^H^H^H^H^H^H
careful a sysadmin you are.  Strictly, untrusted code is
anything I didn't either write myself or carefully check all the
source code for and then recompile on my own system.  More
realistically, software purchased from or downloaded from
sources you trust not to include Trojan horses or back doors and
to be careful enough not to be infected with viri or worms would
be included in the "trusted" category.  The program
automatically executed when you visit Joe Random's website is
untrusted code in any case, at least until you walk the code by
hand to check it out.

[*] Okay, so the user would have to be awfully patient while
this was being done -- the point is that if you can do that with
Javascript, you can do a lot of quicker but serious harm with
malware written in Javascript.
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AF with manual focus lens???

[Christian Skofteland]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1340415983

In his description he says you can use a manual focus lens on an AF body and
it will autofocus.

Am I missing something?

Christian Skofteland
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Re: Re: Graywolf's Site

[David Brooks]

Tom.When i send pictures to the Jokers web site after
a show (using save to web)i take the 2000x1320 image,size to
5x7 with constrants etc off so the pixe;s change,and un
sharpen then.They look ok that way.

Dave

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From: "T Rittenhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 13:48:29 -0500
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Subject: Re: Graywolf's Site


Humm?

I will try that.

Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto



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Subject: Re: Graywolf's Site


> Tom, are you sharpening before or after reducing them in size?  I 
would 
> suggest sizing them down, making your adjustments and then 
sharpening 
> last.
> 
> -Aaron
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Re: Searching opinions on SMC M-85/2.0

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Maciej Marchlewski asked:
> How do you judge this lens? I would like to use it mainly for 
> portraits and some body shots from time to time. 

I have no other 85mm to compare it to, but I can tell you that
I like it a _lot_.  It's my favourite lens.

I'll often reach for a 50mm (or the 35-105/3.5) for full-body
shots, but strongly prefer the 85/2 for faces or head+shoulder
portraits.  Sometimes I'll back up a little and shoot two or
three people's faces together.

-- Glenn
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RE: Is there a Photo Expo website?

[Mick Maguire]

Cotty wrote "http://www.photoexpo2002.com/";

"It is the corner which can experience the enjoyment which develop by your
own hand."

dont you just love babelfish!

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Re: 50mm F1.2A

[Cotty]

>> Credit where credit's due.
>
>Were you indeed taking credit for your part in the conspiracy, or
>was that a subliminal "use your credit card" hint, Peter?  ;-)
>
>(Thanks to you and your goodies there are some decidedly British
>divots in my own credit card - .)

Great Scott, Peter probably knows more about our finances than we do!

I am **sorely** tempted by that 50 1.2 - could be a great short portrait 
lens with a DSLR body.

(Dr Smith in 'Lost in Space': "oooh the pain, the pain...")

Cotty

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RE: 67 Mania gaining foothold, victim needs help!

[Cotty]

>All noted. I have had a quick look at UK prices (swallows hard) and wonder
>if camera shop websites abroad or my wife's enemy eBay will be worth a look.
>
>If I don't try another format now, I never will, but I'm not trying a
>different manufacturer!

Oh, I've heard that Bronica make a pretty good camera...


bullet proof vest, night vision goggles, diving for cover :-)

Cotty

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RE: Re: Re: My opinion of Netscape 6.2.1

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Graywolf,

If that's the case, then you'll have to conform your code to spec.
If your code is to spec, then you'll have no problem per se.

For example, at my current employ, we have to ensure that code is appropriate for 
browsers from IE 4.0 and Netscape 4.0 and up.  If the end user is using IE 3.0 (which, 
STILL occurs, trust me...) then they're SOL.
Personally, even IE 4.0 is old and shouldn't be supported but we do bend because many 
of our clients are senior citizens and sometimes feel that they shouldn't need to 
upgrade if they don't want to.  

You can't please the entire world (although most Pentax users would disagree once they 
get their hands on a 50mm f1.4 :)  ) especially when it comes to Web 
design/layout/coding.  

If the page is in standard HTML, you should have no problem as long as you stick to 
spec.  It's once you get into using JSPs, Cold Fusion, and in some cases, even XML or 
ASPs that you'll get into trouble.

Cheers,
Dave

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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 13:54:38 -0500
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Subject: Re: Re: My opinion of Netscape 6.2.1


Nope, I want to use the broken browsers. The good ones are going to work ok
if my code is good. The broken ones may not so I have to check it. 

Ciao,
Graywolf
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Re: WTB 5p sync cord Long

[Pat White]

Brendan, have you checked the price at Pentax Canada?  They're at 3131 Universal 
Drive, north off Dundas, just west of 427.  You can buy all sorts of stuff, like SMC 
filters, straps, sync cords, PC adapters, and who knows what else.

I stopped by there a few weeks ago to buy a manual for my MZ-S (misplaced it when I 
moved), and they gave me one for free!  The service/sales desk people are very 
friendly and helpful, and they have most things in stock.

When are you doing your model shoot?

Pat White
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Re: Is there a Photo Expo website?

[Cotty]

Ah, found it:

http://www.photoexpo2002.com/

It's in Japanese. Peter?

Arigato,

Cotty

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Is there a Photo Expo website?

[Cotty]

Is there an actual Photo Expo 2002 site? Google kindly provided me with 
this:

http://w3.datanet.hu/~torter/p_a_ind.htm

which is not exactly what I had in mind, Hungarian office furniture...

Cheers,

Cotty

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Re: A few quick release questions

[Cotty]

> > << I've done this for a while with my Tamron (does no-one in the UK
> >  have big _Pentax_ glass?)  >>
> > 
> > Mike. Someone does, now.
> 
> Pray tell, whoever you are.  Hope it's coming to the PDML
> meet... >>
>
>I don't think he's on the list. 

I would have thought that at the rate we buy kit, it was in your interest 
to point ANY cutomers in this direction!

;-)

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RE: A few quick release questions

[Cotty]

>Without a pivoting head of some sort, you can't shoot verticals. 

Not on a lens with a rotating mount, Paul. The Tokina has a lovely one 
that clicks into place at 90 degree intervals, and is then tightened.

>Moreover, the recommemded stance for holding a monopd is to brace it 
>toward you at an angle. In effect, it and your two legs become a tripod. A 
>head lets you tilt the monopod in this way and still shoot sraight ahead.

I have to agree with you here: this is how I would tend to use a monopod. 
The only exception would be on soft ground where the foot sinks, so I 
place the foot on the toe of my shoe - better than nothin :-)

I'm set on doing some sort of Ultimate Bastard Strength Monopod Mount. 
I'm talking 5mm steel, 488 hemi and four barrels, buddy. And Steve Larson 
didn't say a word this time...

Cotsweld



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Re: Flash Delima-Please Help

[Rfsindg]

Steve,

The tele adaptor is all mechanical, a 1.5x2.5 inch box that slides over the flash 
tubes.  It is about 1.5 inches deep with a flat plastic fresnel lens on the front.  It 
simply focuses the light rays into a more narrow beam.  I think it is typically a 
135mm focus.

I don't think this is what you need for 100mm lens portraits.  Something like the wide 
angle adapter may give you light bounced off the room.  I'd try the rubbing alcohol 
bottle or plastic milk carton as a diffuser.  Something to spread that light for a 
bounce.

You should always use the TTL setting on your flash with the Super Program.  This 
measures the light after moving thru your lens and into your camera body.  In effect, 
it knows whether you are using a 100mm or a 24mm lens on the camera and adjusts the 
output of the flash.  With the red and green settings, you measure the light bounced 
back to the flash body and turn off the flash there... no adjusting for that 100mm 
lens!  These settings are available so you can use the flash with 'dumb' cameras that 
don't have Thru-The-Lens flash sensors.

I think Peter at Camera Direct correctly points out that the appropriate accessories 
are the AFW1 & AFT1.

Regards,  Bob S.

You wrote:
According to the owner's manual for the AF200T, Pentax
did make a wide-angle & a tele adaptor.  It would seem
that for my use, it would be best to get the tele.  As
I primarily use the 100mm for portraits.  My question
is, what does the AFT1 actually do?  It says in the
manual that it offers a more concentrated light.  Does
this have the same effect as a Lumiquest soft box? 
BTW, Lumiquest does not make a soft box for the
AF2ooT, I think because it's too big and it covers the
sensor.  If anyobody currently uses the AFT1 on an
AF200T, are you happy with the results?  Do the
pictures end up a little softer than without the
adaptor?

Finally, is it better to set the flash to TTL, instead
of the RED or GREEN auto settings?  If so, what are
these settings for?
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Re: mf 70-200 f 4 owners

[Fred]

> I am considering replacing my 80-200 f 4.5/5.6 mf zoom with the
> 70-200 f4 mf. I know that this lens pops up in topics every so
> often but: are you as owners/users happy with the quality, optics
> and build? I'd like to hear your feed back. I saw one on the net
> for $199 Can d and may go look at it for the K1000 and SP. Main
> use, horseys. Off list response is fine.

Hi, Dave.

Just to clarify:  Are you really talking about the various non-SMC
Pentax-A/Takumar-A/CPC/Cosmicar (etc.) 70-200/4 mf lenses, or did
you actually mean to refer to the SMC Pentax-A 70-210/4 ?

I think that $199 CDN might be too much for the non-SMC 70-200/4's,
but might be OK for the SMC 70-210/4 if it's in really good shape.

Fred
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RE: 67 Mania gaining foothold, victim needs help!

[Malcolm Smith]

Thanks Dave,

All noted. I have had a quick look at UK prices (swallows hard) and wonder
if camera shop websites abroad or my wife's enemy eBay will be worth a look.

If I don't try another format now, I never will, but I'm not trying a
different manufacturer!

Malcolm

>
> The standard lens for the 6x7 is the 105/2.4 - most second hand 6x7s have
> this attached.  It's got a nice feel and is easy to focus.  For wide
> angle, the 55/3.5 is the older model and probably cheaper then the f4.0.
> It's got an enormous front element, though.(100mm or so)  That's about
> 28mm in 35mm terms. The 45 is about 22-ish in 35mm terms.
>
> There's a 75 (about 35mm) which can usually be quite cheap.
>
> I picked up a 6x7+105/2.5 for about HKD 4,000 a few years ago.  That's
> roughly GBP 400.  You may find a trip to HK pays for itself...
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RE: Re[2]: 67 Mania gaining foothold, victim needs help!

[Malcolm Smith]

Thanks Bruce,

I also read your informative reply to Bolo. Now I need a constructive
arguement to put funds away, for what will be known as "PDML syndrome - yet
another *** camera".

Malcolm

>
> Malcolm,
>
> I really love my 67II.  If you are just going to start with one lens
> for awhile - I would choose either the 75/2.8 or the 90/2.8.  The 75
> is close to a 35mm and the 90 is close to a 45mm.  If cost is a
> concern, go with the 90 as it can be had used easily.  The 75 is a new
> lens so there aren't any/many on the used market.
>
>
> Brother Bruce
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RE: Re: OT: New Epson scanners ?

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Brendan,

If you want to see even more improvement, download VueScan (if you don't already use 
it).  It's faster, better and more robust than using the Twain software that comes 
with most scanners.  

I believe it may provide better scans than the Silverfast software that comes with the 
Epsons.

Cheers,
Dave

(oh http://www.hamrick.com for vuescan)


Actually I need to retact what I said about the Epson
1680 before. I just got the new drivers for XP and the
scan quality has improved greatly. This was the first
test with the new drivers and the out of focus
problems are gone, this scan was only reduce in size,
no unsharp mask or colour correction nothing.

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Re: How is Russian glass?

[Joseph Tainter]

Another lenses worth trying are IMHO: Peleng 8mm f/3,5 FishEye
(circular) and Arsat 35mm f/2,8 Shift. Both have good opinions in the
March issue of "Practical
> Photography"
> Greetz
> Artur

I wish they made that 35 shift lens in k-mount. I'd sure sign up for
one. But that's why the Russian products aren't doing better. They
aren't making what the market wants, either because it hasn't occurred
to them that that's how this works, or because they don't have the
resources to produce it in a new mount.

Joe
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Re: Flash Delima-Please Help

[Steve Pearson]

According to the owner's manual for the AF200T, Pentax
did make a wide-angle & a tele adaptor.  It would seem
that for my use, it would be best to get the tele.  As
I primarily use the 100mm for portraits.  My question
is, what does the AFT1 actually do?  It says in the
manual that it offers a more concentrated light.  Does
this have the same effect as a Lumiquest soft box? 
BTW, Lumiquest does not make a soft box for the
AF2ooT, I think because it's too big and it covers the
sensor.  If anyobody currently uses the AFT1 on an
AF200T, are you happy with the results?  Do the
pictures end up a little softer than without the
adaptor?

Finally, is it better to set the flash to TTL, instead
of the RED or GREEN auto settings?  If so, what are
these settings for?

Thanks again everybody!



--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In a message dated 21/03/02 14:34:45 GMT Standard
> Time, Steve writes:
> 
> << Pentax did not make a diffuser for the AF200T, as
> there are no
>  slots for it to slide on.
>  Steve Larson >>
> 
> They are "hidden" on the two long sides. Think it's
> an AFW1. 
> 
> 
> 
> KR
> 
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Re: 67 300mm f/4 vs A* 300/4 and SMCP 135/2.5

[ERNReed]

In a message dated 21-Mar-02 7:44:15 AM Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> On Wednesday, March 20, 2002, at 04:54  AM, mike wilson wrote:
> >
> > It's a worldwide conspiracy.  I am also banned from turning up
> > on a motorcycle.  Or my best man's Morgan 3 wheeler.
> 
> We're driving from the church to the reception in a lovely '72 Karmann 
> Ghia convertible.
> 
Thinking back many years:
I never considered taking a camera to my own wedding.
However, fiance did say I couldn't wear my comfortable, well-broken-in cowboy 
boots (like anyone would see them under the dress!
I arrived at the church in a large, "user-condition" early-1970s Cadillac. 
(Property of matron-of-honour.)
He arrived in a primer-coloured 1966 Chevy truck. (Everyday vehicle of best 
man.)
Wedding photos shot with Minoltas -- courtesy of best photo friend.

Uh  I took the ME Super on our honeymoon and brought home many lovely 
Texas Hill Country images from that!

ERNR

My photographs hang on the virtual walls at
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Re: Re: OT: Somehow I was unsubscribed...

[David Brooks]

Thanks Doug for clearing that up.

Dave


Pentax User
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Re: Good buy or staw away?

[Patrick White]

>>Any thoguhts on this camera?
>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1340399382
>>Are there potential problems, either current or in the
>>future?
>If I am correct, the top is expensive to replace (but not difficult). I'd
>say $200 is the absolute maximum for it.

When an LCD panel gets cracked, it generally shows black areas around the
crack, even when off.  This crack looks to me like it may be only in the top
cover.  However, the shock that caused the crack might have loosened the
connections to the LCD.  One also has to wonder if there might be some more
subtle problem as a result of the shock (like the lens mount might not be
straight anymore).  If there is time, at the very least have them send you a
picture of the camera turned on so you can verify that at least some of the
LCD segments work.
In any case, it might be worthwhile verifying with the seller that you can
return the camera for a full refund if there are any subtle hidden problems
(or perhaps, if for any reason you don't like it?).  If they are reputable
and will give you that guarantee, then it could be a bargain.

hope that helps,
patbob ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Re: My opinion of Netscape 6.2.1

[Joseph Tainter]

Tom, do you mean that it pops more then the usual ads on a page?

I'm using NS 4.7 - haven't "upgraded" because of all the bad things I
keep hearing about 6.x. Still, web site designers always assume that we
all have the latest browers (including the designers of
mail-archive.com, where I read PDML). So eventually I'll have to abandon
4.7.

When I installed 4.7 it would download an ad every time I checked my
mail. I e-mailed Netscape to complain, and to my surprise someone
answered and told me how to turn that off. If you are getting extra ads,
perhaps there's a way to turn them off.

Please let us know. I find MS softwhere intolerably annoying and avoid
it as much as possible. And the problem is getting worse.

Thanks,

Joe
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Re: A few quick release questions

[Mark Roberts]

Wendy Beard wrote:

> When I bought my monopod in the local shop I also asked for advice on
> heads for it. I'd taken the camera along too to try it out. The salesman
> told me that, in his opinion, I didn't need one and should just screw
the
> pod straight onto the camera. Sent me off to go and try it and if I 
> decided I wanted a head on it, then of course, he'd sell me one. Not many
> salsmen would do that!
> I did try it and it worked pretty well.

I tried a head on my monopod at first but I've found I only use the monopod
with my 80-200 or my 300, lenses that have rotating tripod mounts, so I've
pretty much given up on it now.



-- 
Mark Roberts
www.robertstech.com
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FS: Tokina AT-X 235 AF Pro

[Bruce Dayton]

This is the 20-35 constant aperture f:2.8 pro grade zoom. The AT-X
235AF PRO lens uses the latest in lens development technology, using 2
(the front and rear) molded, multicoated aspherical elements which are
created through a collaboration with Hoya Corporation, the world
largest manufacturer of optical glass. This lens also features the
exclusive "Focus Clutch Mechanism". As with all the lenses in Tokina
AT-X AF series, the AT-X 235 AF PRO is constructed using all aluminum
lens barrels and a chrome plated brass mount plate. The lens elements
are made of higher quality HLD (high refraction, low dispersion) glass
for higher resolution and contrast.

The lens is quite new, shows no signs of use other than mounting on
the camera. It is the latest version Tokina ATX Pro AF lens and comes
with both caps, hood and soft padded zippered case. The new price from
B&H is US $600. I have lowered the asking price to US $400.

I am working on building up my 67 lenses and am starting to sell off
items that I don't use so much.  I find that I mostly use primes and
just don't put much use on the zooms.



 Bruce Dayton
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Re: A few quick release questions

[T Rittenhouse]

Especially for verticals I imagine.

Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto



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From: wendy beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: A few quick release questions


> At 06:43 21-3-2002 -0500, you wrote:
> >So, what I did was simply remove the quick release head from the monopod,
> >and mount the 300 2.8 straight onto the head mounting bush. Actual
> >shooting isn't a problem, it's the carrying. I decided I like to pop the
> >combo onto my shoulder, camera/lens facing backwards, with the monopod
> >leg down my chest where I can steady it with a hand. I found that this
> >works very well, and my only worry was the whole thing coming detached
> >and falling. Attaching directly to the bush was the simplest solution,
> >and the fact that it takes 30 seconds or so to unscrew/ rescrew the quick
> >release head for other lens combos doesn't bother me.
> >
> >.02
> >
> >Cotty
>
> When I bought my monopod in the local shop I also asked for advice on
heads
> for it. I'd taken the camera along too to try it out. The salesman told me
> that, in his opinion, I didn't need one and should just screw the pod
> straight onto the camera. Sent me off to go and try it and if I decided I
> wanted a head on it, then of course, he'd sell me one. Not many salsmen
> would do that!
> I did try it and it worked pretty well.
>
> Wendy
>
> ---
> Wendy Beard
> Ottawa, Canada
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Re: AF500FTZ and TTL

[Bruce Dayton]

Hans-Bernhard,

If you want the no hassle approach, the Z-1p allows you to set the
amount of flash fill and then you can shoot away.  I believe the MZ-3
is a bit more fiddley but can be done.  You have to fool the flash by
manually setting exposure and then dialing in the amount of
compensation you want.  Your meter will read off by that amount.


Bruce Dayton



Thursday, March 21, 2002, 7:32:30 AM, you wrote:

HBB> Is the AF500FTZ flash together with a MZ-3 or Z-1 capable of TTL flash
HBB> together with ambient light measuring and the flash set to -1 stop? E.g.
HBB> measuring without flash f11 and 1/15 sec, exactly that is used with
HBB> flash as fill-in but the flash downrated by 1 stop.

HBB> Regards

HBB> Bernd
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Re: Somehow I was unsubscribed...

[gfen]

On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Aaron Reynolds wrote:
> HAR!  It was a conspiracy by the Legion of Large Format!

Is this a size envy thing? ;)

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Re: 50mm F1.2A

[Camdir]

In a message dated 21/03/02 14:34:45 GMT Standard Time, Aaron writes:

<< You are evil.  This list is an evil conspiracy to part me from my money.
 
 - -Aaron >>

Credit where credit's due.

Kind regards
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mf 70-200 f 4 owners

[David Brooks]

I am considering replacing my 80-200 f 4.5/5.6 mf
zoom with the 70-200 f4 mf.I know that this lens
pops up in topics every so often but:are you as
owners/users happy with the quality,optics and build?
I'd like to hear your feed back.I saw one on the net
for $199 Can d and may go look at it for the K1000 and
SP.Main use,horseys.
Off list response is fine.

Dave


Pentax User
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Re: OT: Somehow I was unsubscribed...

[Doug Brewer]

Just to clarify things a little, the good major has no automatic 
unsubscribe function. It does not care if you are subbed or not. If mail 
bounces, majordomo just routes it to me with the error message attached. I 
then decide if it's a short term problem (a busy signal, if you will), or 
something more substantial.

In Aaron's case, for example, everything over a nearly nine hour period was 
returned to me, which indicates a substantial glitch. I have no way of 
knowing it is going to get rectified soon, so to keep from having to 
download/store/examine more and more bounced mail, I chose to unsub the 
account and move on to the next problem.

It's always a judgement call. Sometimes I let it slide, if the ISP has a 
history of instability, like msn, which can't seem to figure out how to 
deliver email, and I know it will be back up eventually. But if I get a 
full mailbox notice from an account, I nuke it as fast as my little fingers 
can type, because I'm about to get an avalanche of returns if I don't.

You know what's really fun? Sometimes a list member will subscribe an 
account to the PDML, forward the PDML traffic to a separate account, then 
ignore it. The forward account fills up and starts bouncing mail back to 
the major, which then dutifully sends it to me. I then get to absorb myself 
in the joyous task of figuring out who the account belongs to. Good times.

Occasionally, I'll get notices sent to my account telling me that messages 
sent to my account are not getting throughwhich makes me go, "h..."

There is also a particular ISP in Wisconsin that routinely goes haywire...a 
domain in China which doesn't work more than it does work...etc, etc, etc. 
Don't get me started.

I guess my point is that if you get unsubbed, it's because something 
happened with your account, or with the path to your account, and the 
backwash is drowning me.

Doug



At 10:00 AM 3/21/02 -0500, you wrote:
>Aaron.This has happened to my canoemail account
>twice so far this year.I subscribed to my inter.net
>account as a back up.
>It also did it to me twice near christmas last
>year too.
>Now i open up both accounts and if i have mail in both
>i delete all from one and go into the other to read
>just incase it boots me again.
>Hooked or what.
>BTW the IR film is in the S3
>
>Dave
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Re[2]: A few quick release questions

[Bruce Dayton]

Rob,

The biggest use for a head on a monopod is for shooting verticals when
the lens doesn't have a tripod mount.  There are many times that I
take the head off mine when the lens in use already has a good tripod
mount.


Bruce Dayton



Thursday, March 21, 2002, 6:15:04 AM, you wrote:

RB> I fail to see how adding an extra joint could do anything apart from
RB> make the pod less stable anyway.  Unless you want a little extra height,
RB> or MUST have a quick release (why on a monopod?) then a head seems
RB> pointless.
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Re: Flash Delima-Please Help

[Camdir]

In a message dated 21/03/02 14:34:45 GMT Standard Time, Steve writes:

<< Pentax did not make a diffuser for the AF200T, as there are no
 slots for it to slide on.
 Steve Larson >>

They are "hidden" on the two long sides. Think it's an AFW1. 



KR

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Re: A few quick release questions

[Camdir]

In a message dated 21/03/02 14:34:45 GMT Standard Time, Mike writes:

<< In a message dated 21/03/02 11:44:51 GMT Standard Time, Mike writes:
 > 
 > << I've done this for a while with my Tamron (does no-one in the UK
 >  have big _Pentax_ glass?)  >>
 > 
 > Mike. Someone does, now.
 
 Pray tell, whoever you are.  Hope it's coming to the PDML
 meet... >>

I don't think he's on the list. 

KR

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Re: AF500FTZ and TTL

[Brendan]

Yup, on the MZ-3 you have to manually set the ambient
light exposure and then dial -1 on the exposure
compensation dial, turn the flash on and it will fire
-1 . I'm not sure about the Z-1 but it doesn't work on
th PZ-20 that way.

--- Hans-Bernhard Beykirch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is the AF500FTZ flash together with a MZ-3 or Z-1
> capable of TTL flash
> together with ambient light measuring and the flash
> set to -1 stop? E.g.
> measuring without flash f11 and 1/15 sec, exactly
> that is used with
> flash as fill-in but the flash downrated by 1 stop.
> 
> Regards
> 
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RE: A few quick release questions

[Rob Brigham]

OK, maybe I can see it in some circumstances.  But this must hinder
framing - if you are using long lenses, then shooting in this way would
make it impossible to point the lens accurately - unless you had a waist
level finder.  Also, many long lenses come with a tripod collar which
would allow verticals anyway.

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> Without a pivoting head of some sort, you can't shoot verticals. 
> 
> Moreover, the recommemded stance for holding a monopd is to 
> brace it toward you at an angle. In effect, it and your two 
> legs become a tripod. A head lets you tilt the monopod in 
> this way and still shoot sraight ahead.
> 
> Rob Brigham wrote: 
> 
> I fail to see how adding an extra joint could do anything 
> apart from make the pod less stable anyway.  Unless you want 
> a little extra height, or MUST have a quick release (why on a 
> monopod?) then a head seems pointless. 
> 
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Re: New Tokina 60-120mm f/2.8 and 28-70mm f/2.8

[Fred]

> Tokina has also shown a prototype of the AF 60-120mm f/2.8 AT-X at
> the PhotoExpo 2002 in Japan.

Do you know any more details on it, or know of any links with
details to it?  It ~could~ be a really interesting lens.  I do know
that the manual focus Tokina AT-X 60-120/2.8 is a ~great~ portrait
lens, but I am going to assume that the new lens' optical design may
be different from the one-touch focus/zoom ring setup on the MF
version.

Fred
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Re[2]: 67 Mania gaining foothold, victim needs help!

[Bruce Dayton]

Malcolm,

I really love my 67II.  If you are just going to start with one lens
for awhile - I would choose either the 75/2.8 or the 90/2.8.  The 75
is close to a 35mm and the 90 is close to a 45mm.  If cost is a
concern, go with the 90 as it can be had used easily.  The 75 is a new
lens so there aren't any/many on the used market.


Brother Bruce



Thursday, March 21, 2002, 1:56:26 AM, you wrote:

>> 6) I have read that mirror and shutter vibration are a big problem
>> with the Pentax 67 bodies.  An article on The Luminous Landscape
>>   http://www.luminous-landscape.com/pentax67ii.htm
>> shows multiple images on photographs with Pentax 67 gear because the
>> shutter and the mirror shake the camera so badly.   On the other
>> hand, the PDML photographers have been getting excellent results.
>> What's up?

MS> Thank you for this posting. I have been so unsure as to which MF Pentax to
MS> save up for, but I now think the 67II will suit me fine.

MS> I must say I am still quite shocked at the cost of them; as I will only be
MS> able to afford one lens to go with the body, I assume I should get the
MS> equivalent to a 50mm for an LX(?).

MS> My home town is on a spree of demolition of historic buildings, and items of
MS> interest, like original railway signal boxes, and I would like to record
MS> them on a bigger format - which reminds me, I also need a good tripod (my
MS> last one demised, but only cost £20), any recommendations anyone?

MS> Malcolm
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Re: OT: Somehow I was unsubscribed...

[Aaron Reynolds]

On Thursday, March 21, 2002, at 09:55  AM, Doug Brewer wrote:

> It's very simple. Beginning about 11:30 last night, everything sent to 
> your fud account bounced back to me, so about 8:30 this morning I 
> unsubbed the account.

Thanks for the heads-up.  Calling passport now.

-Aaron
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AF500FTZ and TTL

[Hans-Bernhard Beykirch]

Is the AF500FTZ flash together with a MZ-3 or Z-1 capable of TTL flash
together with ambient light measuring and the flash set to -1 stop? E.g.
measuring without flash f11 and 1/15 sec, exactly that is used with
flash as fill-in but the flash downrated by 1 stop.

Regards

Bernd
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Re: 50mm F1.2A

[Aaron Reynolds]

On Thursday, March 21, 2002, at 09:05  AM, Mick Maguire wrote:

> Aaron wrote:  "This list is an evil conspiracy to part me from my 
> money."
>
> HA! When I first started reading this list I had 3 camera bodies (only 1
> serviceable) and 4 lenses. I now have 5 bodies (3 serviceable), 10 
> lenses, 2
> flashes (with all adapters), countless filters, battery grips, cables 
> and
> now a fully operational B&W darkroom... And I'm *still* lusting after 
> new
> stuff... Trouble is said stuff is getting dearer all the time...

I had a screwmount body and three lenses, and shortly after I joined I 
picked up a K-mount body and two lenses for it.

Now I have all that stuff, another five K-mount lenses, another two 
screwmount lenses, two more K mount bodies, a 67 body and two 67 lenses.

AAGH!

> there really should be a warning on the list signup about this.

I agree.  Let's write it.  ;)

DISCLAIMER: By joining the PDML, you acknowledge that you will be 
exposed to glowing reviews of expensive pieces of camera equipment that 
you will invariably lust after, and agree not to hold the list 
maintainers responsible for your inevitable financial ruin.

-Aaron
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Re: Somehow I was unsubscribed...

[Brendan]

Conspiracy of small format Aaron 

--- Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thursday, March 21, 2002, at 09:46  AM, Rob
> Brigham wrote:
> 
> > Dont get paranoid.  If the new address gets
> unsubscribed, then maybe we
> > dont like you anymore!
> 
> HAR!  It was a conspiracy by the Legion of Large
> Format!
> 
> The major seems to have regained his senses
> somewhat, but I'm curious to 
> know how the initial unsubscribe came about.  If
> passport is bouncing 
> some of my mail, that would be a real problem.
> 
> -Aaron
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