Re: Taxes...
On 14 Apr 2002 at 11:55, Gabriel Bovino wrote: Talk about waiting to the last minute Done and done! Too bad I can't deduct my Pentax purchases for 2001. Oh, the joys of a part-time photography business - it's also a GREAT tax writeoff... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: sfx
Hi, On 15 Apr 2002 at 23:10, Lukasz Kacperczyk wrote: Everybody's raving about MZ-S's slanted top plate and how convenient it is. I was just looking at the pictures at Boz's site and I'm inclined to think that the SFX already had that feature. Am I right, or am I wrong? You are right, it's slightly slanted. Not a big help with that control layout... And could someone please tell me why Pentax made such an ugly camera? Every manufacturer did that in those dark ages. SFXn is at least a well built, practical one, not simply ugly. Gabor - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: S-M-C Tak 85/1.8
Hi, Thanks for the quick answers. Had a second look on it and bought it. Seems to be a great one, I like the handling very much. My S3 is happy too. BTW, the price was about 100 EUR. Something for the Best deal thread? Gabor - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Your desert-island kit?
Smart-alec! :0 *** Tachihara 4x5 field camera, Nikkor W 210mm f/5.6. You didn't say it had to be Pentax. William Robb *** -- Collin Brendemuehl, KC8TKA --- Get over it. Dr. Laura -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Customs for Canucks
How do they hit you up for this money.When the package arives at the local post office do they call up,have you pick it up and charge you then.?? Dave Begin Original Message From: andre langevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 18:04:08 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Customs for Canucks I have about a 25% rate of stuff that gets mailed from the US getting hit by customs, and this was one of them. Poop. frank High rate, maybe because you have you packets insured, then have the real value written on the green tag. For items below 50$ I ask it uninsured and suggest a low declared value AND for the description: USED camera or USED parts. But I've seen a 10$ packet hit by the customs (uncommon) and a few $100 ones go go through it without being arrested and fined. Andre -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Your minimal kit (was Re: Your desert-island kit? )
On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, Mark Erickson wrote: What body and lens would you choose, and why? By why, I'm really asking what kind of shooting is important to you and how you might do it with a simple setup. This is more-or-less what I do, now. ZX-5n, A50mm f1.4. I'm starting to establish a kit to walk around with most of the time, so I can leave the rest of my stuff at home. This will contain the aforementioned body and lens, as well as the FA28-70mm f4, a reverse ring for the 50mm, a red, yellow, and polariziing filter, and monopod. The rest of the kit can stay at home for special occasions. Yow.. I'm not sure what happened to the spacing up there, but I'm not about to argue with it, cause fixing it just made it worse. :) -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
UK eBay - someone got a good deal on an AF280T
I was watching this one, but bloody forgot about it! @%£@@£$@! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1345073046 £37 for a 280T! Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Your desert-island kit?
I assume I was on a desert isle alone, a al Tom Hanks. CBWaters wrote: Daniel, At first I thought your response made sense. Then I remembered that most of my photos are of my wife and kids... -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Your desert-island kit?
On Monday, April 15, 2002, at 09:39 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Now, if stranded on a desert island, what people would you photograph? Or are you describing the climate of the island, not the lack of population? Climate and population considerations might be a deciding factor as to which camera/lens combination would be best suited. Perhaps you should reformulate your question to be more precise. I'd not want to take the wrong gear. ROTFLMAO. Shel, I love you. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Fast film recommendations?
On Monday, April 15, 2002, at 12:55 PM, Paris, Leonard wrote: We must operate in a complete vacuum here. This is probably one of the most discussed subjects on the PDML. We need an FAQ. ;) For the record, in colour I recommend Fuji Press 800/Superia 800 for available light with a little snap, or Fuji NPZ for available light if you want a softer image with less contrast. In black and white, nothing beats the mighty Ilford Delta 3200, provided you have the right developer. I recommend Ilford DD-X or Microphen, or Agfa Studional if you have a Jobo to process it in. If you're taking it to a lab and they're processing it in TMax, I recommend Fuji's Neopan 1600. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Your desert-island kit?
On Monday, April 15, 2002, at 01:19 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: What would there be to photograph? Why would a want a photo of the same thing I am forced to look at, day in, day out? So that you have something to process and print in your desert island darkroom, obviously. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Your desert-island kit?
Pentax 67, 75mm f2.8. No thought required. The slightly-wide angle of view is my favourite, the lens is the second fastest for the system (only half a stop slower than the fastest), it is very sharp and produces pleasing images, and the minimum focus is excellent. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Opinions on standard zooms
On Monday, April 15, 2002, at 01:23 PM, Brendan wrote: DO NOT GET THAT SIGMA I have the 28-105 f2.8-4 and it optically is very poor, a better choice would be the cheaper 28-105 F4-5.6 sigma which is much better and cheaper. Heh, Brendan's 28-105 f2.8-4 makes lamp posts look like they're in Candyland on a hot summer day. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Your desert-island kit?
OK, if you want to treat the question seriously, which I didn't, on a desert island, I'd take a polaroid and lots of film for it, since I'm not going to be able to get the pictures developed, at least not without taking along a LOT of extra baggage. Or maybe even -- dare I so it? -- a digital camera with extra memory and extra batteries. Norman Baugher wrote: Ah Dan, where's your creativity?? G Norm -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Color is So Much Easier
On Monday, April 15, 2002, at 10:24 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Part of the BW process is establishing the relationship between film speed, EI, developer, and printing paper in order to fully realize one's vision. But with color, since there's really no fooling around with developers, developer times, and the like, those factors are eliminated from the equation, and therefore the level of skill required to get a good color negative or transparency is reduced substantially or eliminated completely. You don't need to pick an appropriate paper and film combo in colour? That's news to me. ;) Shel, shoot some Agfa Optima and have it printed at a lab using Kodak Edge paper, or a pro lab printing on Kodak Ultra. Be careful to bring a bucket or one of those airplane sickness bags with you. I think you're either not as picky as you would be with your bw because the actual process is hidden from you, or you've lucked out with your first lab. Probably the second one. Again, to reiterate, the testing to determine optimal processing is being done by your lab for you. The speed and temperature of the machine are being carefully regulated. In the case of labs running Jobos, agitation is also regulated. Also, just because 4 minutes at 38 degrees C works in one place, that doesn't make it a universal constant -- numerous atmospheric conditions necessitate tweaking the process. Example: a lab in another city and myself have the same processor and use the same chemistry. We share tweaks back and fourth. Both of our machines have been recently calibrated by the same service professional. Yet, he finds he has to run C-41 about 30 seconds longer than I do to obtain the same results. Example 2: Friday morning I got a call from a lab that I absolutely idolize (seriously, they're the lab I want to be), who also use the same processor as me and who were curious about their C-41 results because they had never processed C-41 in their Jobo before -- when they compared what they considered their 'perfect' results with the manufacturer's supplied reference neg, they found their base density was considerably thinner, but that their highlights were still good and that the negs printed fantastically. This is a byproduct of C-41 in the Jobo: more available contrast and stronger black detail (and I believe less grain in the dark blacks, but I haven't done any head-to-head testing to compare that one). Anyhow, after having a tech conversation like that with someone who I've respected for ages, and one where I could offer useful information, was such a pure geek thrill that I was on a high all Friday (ask Dave Brooks, who came to visit -- I was a little hyper), and I barely got any work done. What I'm trying to say is that the process seems easier because the hard decisions are isolated from you. Often, when someone decides that they don't like a specific film it is because they don't like the way their lab processes it, or prints it, or both. You have to find the film that works best in the process your lab is using and with the paper your lab is printing on. This is also why people can have such a wide range of opinions of one film. I'm considering a change of chemistry suppliers over here. It is not wholly a financially-motivated consideration, but that is some of it. It is somewhat of a delivery issue, since we use a less popular chemistry in small batches, and recently there have been some delays in shipping. (I was promised our current order of chemistry Friday morning, then Monday morning, now this morning. I will run out by tomorrow morning. Being a lab with no chemistry is not much fun.) Anyhow, the problem with a new chemistry is, will I get the same results out of the box? Probably not. Can I get the same results with plenty of testing? Probably. Will it be identical? No. Will I alienate customers if my results change? Possibly. Maybe they won't notice. I can tell you for sure which ones will, and I'll be talking to them before I make a change like that. Chances are I'll offer them some test rolls and ask their opinion of the results, since their opinion is infinitely more valuable than a control strip. See, I'm doing what you do in bw, Shel: straying from reference to obtain what I consider a better negative. Not everyone will agree with my choices, and that's the way it should be. Part of picking a lab is finding a place that you like the results from. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: UK eBay - someone got a good deal on an AF280T
That is a good price.But were's the 'plastic bouncy thingy' :) Dave Begin Original Message From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 13:31:21 +0100 To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: UK eBay - someone got a good deal on an AF280T I was watching this one, but bloody forgot about it! @%£@@£$@! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1345073046 £37 for a 280T! Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
C41 BW film (was Re: Color is So Much Easier)
what do you guys think about it? is it better/different than shooting color and then just turning to BW in photoshop? i never tried it and really curious how is it different (if at all) from regular BW film - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Cose-up Lenses
On Monday, April 15, 2002, at 05:13 PM, frank theriault wrote: So, is a Cose-up lens sort of like a marco (I laugh whenever I see marco lenses listed on eBay - happens all the time - and I wonder, does it mean they used to be owned by an Italian fellow?)? ;-) I forward all of those to my friend Marco, with upset letters about how other people are selling his lenses. If I keep at it, he'll find it funny one day. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Don't worry, Julia...
Don't worry, Julia. Looking at your photos at photocritique, it's great to see you 've focused on the important part of photography, it's PHOTOS. Your photos are very good! So, don't worry too much about camera's designations and the like, just try to keep your mind out of consumerism and into photography, like you've been doing. I mean, it's fine to know what's good, better or bad, but you don't need 45 bodies, 3 or 4 different 85mm lenses, etc. This list is great, as his people, but it's too equipment oriented. Try to keep you pure and targeted in the important thing: your PHOTOS Regards Albano PS: by the way, the LX is the better camera Pentax ever made. Not to ask a really stupid questionbut what is an LX? Is there some chart that has all these makes and the letter designations? I only know of MZ-S, PZ-1P, zx5n, zx-m...I've seen a ME Super at the local camera shop as used.. To be completely honest, I'm not even sure of all the notations for the lenses. I feel like an idiot.: ) Julia - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Malcolm's Plums
Excellent shot Malc! You've caught the serene feeling of this setting well! Cheers, Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Your desert-island kit?
Ahhh, Daniel you've missed my point. You said Why would a want a photo of the same thing I am forced to look at, day in, day out? I said At first I thought your response made sense. Then I remembered that most of my photos are of my wife and kids... Meaning I have to look at THEM every day and still take a LOT of pictures... They've taken to calling me the cameraman. As in OH NO!!, it's the Cameraman again! Cory - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 8:42 AM Subject: Re: Your desert-island kit? I assume I was on a desert isle alone, a al Tom Hanks. CBWaters wrote: Daniel, At first I thought your response made sense. Then I remembered that most of my photos are of my wife and kids... -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Delta 3200; was: Fast film recommendations?
David Brooks wrote: Aaron and I like the Ilford Delta 3200 BW film.I recently tried Supra 800 and found it nice. ... Dave and Aaron, about Delta 3200. I've tried it a couple of times and I've been scared away form it by the huge garin size and the excessive contrast. How do labs manage it? Do they just throw it in with all the rest of BW film and forget about it? Is there a reccomendation for self processing and does it make a difference? Thanks in advance, Flavio - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Ringflashes and other illuminating topics
Hi all. just a quick question. I'm looking to purchase a ring flash for some experimentation. I'm looking for TTL, and something that can support TTL on both a digital and non-digital shoe (I use an LX or a Z1p depending on what exactly I'm doing). I have had some interesting results with a Metz 60 firing through a homemade rig, but its quite cumbersome, and I was wondering if anyone had any ideas. Basically, I am looking for: 1: an Analog TTL System (so it will work on Both) 2: front filter holder of 55mm, or preferably up to 62mm. So far, in Ireland, i can get my hands on a Vivitar 6000 unit (http://www.vivitar.com/Products/Flashes/flash.html#6000AF) which is AF, so I presume its digital, but I havent been able to dig up any information one way or the other on this. Of Course, the other option is something which adapts a metz to a circular flash burst, but this is probably not that easy to do? Basically, any information would be great Thanks in advance, T. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Delta 3200; was: Fast film recommendations?
Yes ... Ilford recommends DD-X, and it can produce stunning results. Grain at many EIs is no worse than TX. However, you've got to determine what speeds work best for you and the subjects you're photographing. Flavio Minelli wrote: I've tried it a couple of times and I've been scared away form it by the huge garin size and the excessive contrast. How do labs manage it? Do they just throw it in with all the rest of BW film and forget about it? Is there a reccomendation for self processing and does it make a difference? Thanks in advance, Flavio - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/ http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/darkroom-rentals/index.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: AF 280T
Then you would have a switch to defeat the automatic for switching the camera to X shutter speed. Ahh, no - I see what you're getting at. My flash mod doesn't work by interrupting the X sync speed on auto, it works by just making sure the flash bloody well fires! I use the flash mod only with the camera set to X and therefore in manual mode. I only use it in auto mode indoors at parties while inebriated, with the flash mod switch disengaged. Then auto-everything is the only way to go! :-) Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: AF 280T
Hi Bernd 1. use a Pentax hot shoe grip or modify your flash according to Cotty's instructions. ( But what I don't understand there: he says in his description: 'Of the hotshoe contacts on the AF280T, the left-hand contact is the ''flash quench'' contact.' That's OK for me as it is the left contact looking at the bottom side of the AF 280 connector. http://www.macads.co.uk/pentax/af280tmodsketch5.html shows the blue wire in question. The drawing is orientated with the flash facing away from the viewer. So that you're looking at the back of the flash. Hence the corresponding contact on the camera would be the left one, with the camera facing away from you also. But at the pics in his site, the blue wire seems for me to be wrong one to modify ?! Or is the contact part turned 180 degrees in the picture ? If I look at the camera contacts from the back side, the left contact is the TTL contact and the right one selects the X speed ! ). That is correct. What I wanted to do was to be able to was disable the TTL quench contact at will, in my case by fitting a simple switch in line. Contacts explained: http://www.geocities.com/sorefeets/lx/lx_flash.htm In practice, I flip my (Steve Larson inspired) switch, and set the power switch usually to MS-L. In bright ambient light at reasonable distance for, say a portrait, this allows the flash to fire and neatly fills in shadows in the eye sockets / under a baseball cap. The camera will be set to X, forcing it to use 1/75th sec shutter time, and I simply bring the aperture in manual to match the exposure of 1/75 sec. I find that outside on an overcast day, I underexpose by up to a stop (I shoot negs) otherwise the faces tend to burn a bit on the neg. Generally it works well, although I'm restricted to using 1/75th sec and whatever aperture that requires in the available range. Generally it's not a problem using 200 ISO film. I'm happy with the results. On a bright day it puts a great sparkle in the eyes for family snaps, which is really the only time I use it. My 'real' portraits are low-key moody affairs, and I never use flash for those. HTH Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Don't worry, Julia...
This list is great [snip], but it's too equipment oriented. Well, it ~is~ the ~Pentax~ Discussion Mailing List... Right? Besides, Albano, it seems as if ~you~ (maintainer of the Most Used Body Survey, the Favorite Body Survey, the Favorite Film Survey, the Favorite Lens Survey, and the the Bodies Survey - did I miss any?) are into equipment a bit yourself - g. Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Your minimal kit (was Re: Your desert-island kit? )
gfen wrote: I'm starting to establish a kit to walk around with most of the time, so I can leave the rest of my stuff at home. This will contain the aforementioned body and lens, as well as the FA28-70mm f4, a reverse ring for the 50mm, a red, yellow, and polariziing filter, and monopod. The rest of the kit can stay at home for special occasions. (I fixed the spacing for you.) I don't carry all my gear every day either. But I don't have a minimal walking-around kit that stays consistent, so I had a bit of trouble with the long-term aspects of Mark's mind-experiment. Some days my walking-around kit is nothing more than the Super Program or KX and the A35-105/3.5. C'est tout. But if I'm heading out at night, I might put the 85/2 or 50/1.4 on there instead. If I'm going to be indoors and have a greater than usual expectation of wanting to shoot there, I'll pop a flash on top -- often an AF280T, but sometimes (because it's more compact) an Olympus T-20. If the ME already has film in it of a speed appropriate to the time of day, that might be what goes with me. If I'm heading into an environment where I expect smallish things to catch my eye from a distance (some parts of the city, for example, or any place where there are lots of sightseers in interesting clothes), the 70-210/4 goes on whichever camera I carry. Once in a while I'll take a screwmount body and lens when I go out -- either to finish off a roll that's still loaded, or just because it's been too long since I used 'em and I feel like doing so. So what's my minimal kit? Give me the 35-105/3.5 for daylight one day, and the next night it'll be all wrong 'cause I'm out late enough that f/3.5 is too slow. My _walking_around_ kit, which is as minimal as I get, changes depending on the environment I'm walking into and what I expect to shoot. And that's only a just in case camera -- just in case a photo pops up in front of me that needs to be taken. Take me to an event where I specifically expect to do some shooting, and a) I'll want a few more tools and b) I'll bring way more than that environment's minimal kit just 'cause it's easier to simply grab the whole camera bag on the way out the door. (Not always. Sometimes I throw two or three bodies, a few primes, a couple of zooms, and a flash into a canvas shoulder bag instead of dragging the whole K-mount big bag of stuff along. In full daylight, I can do quite a bit with: 24/2.8, 35-105/3.5, 50/2, 85/2, 135/2.5, 70-210/4, and either 100-300/4 or 400/6.3 preset. Some overlap there for when I want the same length on two different bodies at the same time with different film. But even that is admittedly not an attempt at a _minimal_ kit, merely an attempt to travel lighter than usual. I'm still hedging my bets, keeping my options open, etc.) Send me away from home for more than a day, into multiple shooting environments, and I definitely want a more varied set of tools near at hand. Send me away for a week (e.g. The Pennsic War every August), and I'll take the full K-mount kit, the full screwmount kit, the mostly-working screwmount backup cameras, two and a half times as much film as I actually expect to shoot (enough to make non-photographers' jaws drop), both real tripods and both tabletop tripods, and the Konica and it's couple of lenses just in case. I used to also take along a disposable panoramic camera, but now I just make a panoramic mask inside one of the S1a bodies with gaffer's tape. And now that I've got the Nishika, that'll be coming as well. Of course, I don't hike in and it's not _really_ camping. I drive, and although I live in a tent for a week (and have to park the car a couple miles away after I finish unloading), I'm really in the middle of a city. A city of tents, but a city of 10,000 people, with all the variety of subjects and conditions that implies (but without a camera store on site, so if anything breaks I need to have a backup with me). Put me out in the woods with one or two friends, and I won't bring anywhere near that much gear. I can't put together *a* minimal kit, because I do too many types of shooting, of too many kinds of subjects, in too many different environments and conditions. I'm greedy; I want to do it all. I'll shoot what I can with the tools I have or can afford, but ifwhen I get my hands on yet another tool, I'm quite likely to say, Oh great, now I can do such-and-such that I've been wanting to do for a while! Just wait until the day (probably a long time in the future) when I get my hands on a large-format camera with full motion! The best I can do for a question like Mark's is to say what my minimal kit (the kit large enough to get the job done but small enough to make me feel nervous about it) for each of several different situations. -- Glenn - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget
Re: Your minimal kit (was Re: Your desert-island kit? )
To cover all situations, the body would have to offer TTL flash. That makes my choice between a working Super Program and a broken Ricoh XR-P. Neither has mirror lockup, but the Ricoh has less vibration, an aperture window, a vertical release button, an exposure lock button that holds the exposure till you take the shot, and a display that doesn't need refreshing every 30 seconds or so. For this photographer, that tips my decision toward fixing the Ricoh. For the lens, I'll go with my Pentax 50/1.4 PKA over my Rikenon P 50/2, for these reasons: 1. The colors are more pleasing to my family. 2. The Ricoh, for some reason, is extra loud in program mode and doesn't offer shutter priority, so I wouldn't need the Rikenon's P setting. My alternate choice, actually, would be the Pentax SMC 35/2K, because 1. I love the results, even at f/2.8. 2. It's more versatile indoors, for the kind of pictures I take. 3. For many years 35mm was my only focal length (Minox 35s, Olympus XA) and I'm pretty good at making the most of it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: C41 BW film (was Re: Color is So Much Easier)
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, Mishka wrote: what do you guys think about it? is it better/different than shooting color and then just turning to BW in photoshop? i never tried it and really curious how is it different (if at all) from regular BW film I used it for a shortwhile, and was pleased with the negatives, but never the prints. I don't think there's a minilab on the planet that can print it correctly, but the negs look and scan like the real thing. It was also nice to get back a full set of 4x6s when I picked the film up, as well. I've used Kodak T400CN, Ilford Xp2, and some other Kodak that you can find in Walmart. I tended to prefer what I got back on T400CN the most. -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Color is So Much Easier
I agree wholeheartedly with Paul. Getting exposure right for non-middletoned subjects is a skill that must be learned and practiced when using slide film. Most slide film is very unforgiving and 1 stop off the correct exposure is very noticeable. And as Pul mentioned, what you get back cannot be changed through the printing porocess (there isn't one) as with print film. On the other hand I've found that getting a decent negative with BW is very easy when using Tri-X. I love the stuff. Hey, if I can develop it anybody can.. Christian On Monday 15 April 2002 18:16, Paul Stenquist wrote: Shel Belinkoff wrote: Please don't take this as condescending ... is there any real skill involved in getting a decent negative or slide from color film? -- Hi Shel, Quite obviously, color transparencies require more precise exposure than any other film type, since they are the finished product. Unlike negative film, either BW or color, there is no intermediate step where corrections can be made. And transparency films generally don't have the latitude of a multi-purpose BW filmm like Tri-X. You can't change paper grades or enlarger exposure when working with transparency film. What's on the film is what you get. There's a lot of real skill involved. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Recommendations
The tax refund is arriving soon. I am guaranteed to get $500. Whatever gear you buy, I suggest that you use the $500 to acquire the most expensive body or lens you will be wanting. It's not easy to scrape up that kind of money, or to justify it to the wife when it comes out of your paycheck, so why spend it on two or three items that you can easily enough acquire one at a time? Therefore, if there is an LX in your future--or a lens that costs mor than $400 (e.g., a 77/1.8, 85/1.4, 200/2.5, 300/4.5, or 400/5.6), get it. But don't wait more than three years to get a sturdy tripod and head, or cable release, as I did! [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Delta 3200; was: Fast film recommendations?
Flavio, I have used Delta 3200 many times and I have always had Ilford do the processing (discount envelopes). I have not had large grain (in fact the opposite) and I have been very pleased with the contrast. But then if Ilford don't get it right, then there's not much chance for us is there! Alan Dave and Aaron, about Delta 3200. I've tried it a couple of times and I've been scared away form it by the huge garin size and the excessive contrast. How do labs manage it? Do they just throw it in with all the rest of BW film and forget about it? Is there a reccomendation for self processing and does it make a difference? Thanks in advance, Flavio - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Your minimal kit (was Re: Your desert-island kit? )
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what's my minimal kit? Well, to strip it down further, I'm happy with just the ZX-5n and A50f1.4. 90% of my 35mm shots come from that combination. I'm just adding some smaller pieces, as I already said, to the kit to take advantage of other situations that might pop up. However, as a recovering equipment junky, I find it much more pleasing to take the bare minimum and force myself to work with it. I also find that, to me, it makes my photos better, as well. My friend goes to Pennsic every year. Sometimes he tries to convince me to go along. -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Your minimal kit (was Re: Your desert-island kit? )
I don't carry all my gear every day either. But I don't have a minimal walking-around kit that stays consistent, so I had a bit of trouble with the long-term aspects of Mark's mind-experiment. My usual walking around kit is the MZ-S with the old 28-105 powerzoom attached. I have been known to use a 75-300 instead, and have started sticking the 16mm fisheye in a pocket just in case. Bill KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Ringflashes and other illuminating topics
How about the Pentax AF140C? It can fire off 4 tubes in groups of two (right, left or both) so that you can avoid flat lighting (unless you want flat lighting which it will do when both sets are fired). It is analog TTL so it's compatible with the LX (I'm not sure if it'll work with the PZ1p but I think it should). It comes with 49,52,and 58mm rings and you can get a 58-62 step down (vignetting may be a problem). It would be my choice for a ringlight because of it's versatility. Christian On Tuesday 16 April 2002 09:12, Terence Mac Goff wrote: Hi all. just a quick question. I'm looking to purchase a ring flash for some experimentation. I'm looking for TTL, and something that can support TTL on both a digital and non-digital shoe (I use an LX or a Z1p depending on what exactly I'm doing). I have had some interesting results with a Metz 60 firing through a homemade rig, but its quite cumbersome, and I was wondering if anyone had any ideas. Basically, I am looking for: 1: an Analog TTL System (so it will work on Both) 2: front filter holder of 55mm, or preferably up to 62mm. So far, in Ireland, i can get my hands on a Vivitar 6000 unit (http://www.vivitar.com/Products/Flashes/flash.html#6000AF) which is AF, so I presume its digital, but I havent been able to dig up any information one way or the other on this. Of Course, the other option is something which adapts a metz to a circular flash burst, but this is probably not that easy to do? Basically, any information would be great Thanks in advance, T. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Shooting memories (was: Re: Your desert-island kit?)
Cory wrote: They've taken to calling me the cameraman. As in OH NO!!, it's the Cameraman again! Ah, but your grandchildren and their children will be eternally grateful for the memories you've captured. I get this everytime I want to shoot my wife and girls baking together, playing piano together, or doing each other's hair while watching TV. Endure the criticisms now; you're leaving a priceless legacy. I recently picked up my daughter from middle school, dropping off her friend Janet. Janet raced to the mailbox and opened a thin envelope that bore the news that she had not been accepted into a special academic program. As she read the letter, I snapped a couple photos from behind the wheel of my car. When the prints arrived, I asked my daughter to give them to Janet. Why would she want them? she asked, incredulous. This, too, is life, I replied. I have photos of me discovering my first gray hair, signing my divorce, undergoing dental work and foot surgery, and crying over the loss of a girlfriend. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Asahi patent for hybrid digital/film SLR
All, Today (April 16, 2002) Asahi Kogaku Kogyo Kabushiki Kaisha was awarded patent 6,374,060 for a Hybrid camera selectively using photographic film and image sensor. The patent depicts a 35mm SLR with an interchangeable film or digital back. Judging by the drawings, it looks fairly mature (maybe close to an actual implementation). Wouldn't that be cool? Hope they actually produce it!!! --Mark p.s., Here's a link which may or may not work: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFd=PALLp=1 u=/netahtml/srchnum.htmr=1f=Gl=50s1='6374060'.WKU.OS=PN/6374060RS=PN/ 6374060 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Shooting memories (was: Re: Your desert-island kit?)
Funny how a person (my mother) can, in the same moment, complain about having her picture taken and also complain about never receiving any prints of the wonderful (not my word here) pictures I take... Cory - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 10:05 AM Subject: Shooting memories (was: Re: Your desert-island kit?) Cory wrote: They've taken to calling me the cameraman. As in OH NO!!, it's the Cameraman again! Ah, but your grandchildren and their children will be eternally grateful for the memories you've captured. I get this everytime I want to shoot my wife and girls baking together, playing piano together, or doing each other's hair while watching TV. Endure the criticisms now; you're leaving a priceless legacy. I recently picked up my daughter from middle school, dropping off her friend Janet. Janet raced to the mailbox and opened a thin envelope that bore the news that she had not been accepted into a special academic program. As she read the letter, I snapped a couple photos from behind the wheel of my car. When the prints arrived, I asked my daughter to give them to Janet. Why would she want them? she asked, incredulous. This, too, is life, I replied. I have photos of me discovering my first gray hair, signing my divorce, undergoing dental work and foot surgery, and crying over the loss of a girlfriend. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Your minimal kit (was Re: Your desert-island kit? )
Paul Stregevsky commented; Glenn wrote: I can't put together *a* minimal kit, because I do too many types of shooting, of too many kinds of subjects, in too many different environments and conditions. Didn't Henri Cartier-Bresson make do with a Leica and a 50? (Not that I could.) Aha! A good point, and one in light of which I'll need to re-examine what I've said so far! After all, who am I to claim to know more about the art than the likes of Henri Cartier-Bresson? (And no, in case tone of voice doesn't come through, that is most decidedly _not_ sarcasm.) But... I'll be the first to admit that I'm not as familiar with Cartier-Bresson's work as I should be, but I know that he's most famous for his candid street photography. How much else did he shoot that just doesn't get talked about as much? Landscapes? Macro? Wildlife? Concerts? Sporting Events? Aircraft? (This is not a rhetorical question -- like I said, I'm less familiar with his work than I ought to be.) My _impression_ was that at least part of the reason he was able to uses such a minimal kit so effectively was that he was specializing in a particular type of shooting. Note that two of my walking-around combinations are a body with a 50mm, and a body with a 35-105 zoom. And that I did describe the 50mm as a compromise length -- _almost_ wide enough for some things and better than being stuck with a long lens when you want a wide; _almost_ long enough for other things and better than being stuck with a wide when you want a short telephoto; and although I don't think I actually said it earlier, yes, 50mm is the _perfect_ length for still other subjects (that is, its usefulness is not limited to those times when you have to make one lens do the work of four). So yeah, I do acknowledge that one body with a 50mm lens lets you make an awful lot of pictures. I just don't find that a sufficient tool for everything that I, in my artistic greed[*] (and having a different -- though overlapping -- set of interests than Henri Cartier-Bresson), want to shoot. Though I'm going to have to find a book of Cartier-Bresson's work in the library and think about that a bit. -- Glenn [*] I want to shoot it all ... I want to be _good_ at it all ... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Asahi patent for image stabilization....
All, Here's another cool patent that was awarded today. It's US Patent Number 6,374,048 for Device for correcting a tremble of a focused image. The drawings for this one are also very detailed, indicating that they actually built it --Mark http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFd=PALLp=1 u=/netahtml/srchnum.htmr=1f=Gl=50s1='6,374,048'.WKU.OS=PN/6,374,048RS =PN/6,374,048 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Customs for Canucks
Thanks Bill.I quess i'll find out in a week or so how this will work for mail to Ontario.Just cannot decide to deliver to office(wife will not find out) or home(easier to access the ost office here) Dave Begin Original Message From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 09:08:56 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Customs for Canucks - Original Message - From: David Brooks Subject: Re: Customs for Canucks How do they hit you up for this money.When the package arives at the local post office do they call up,have you pick it up and charge you then.?? Or, they deliver it to your door and hit you up for money. Nice deal here. I have recieved a few used camera shipments from the USA over the past few months. All clearly marked on the box as used. One item in particular was obviously run hard and pastured wet. On every box, I had to pay GST (no surprise there), and PST (there is no PST on used stuff in Saskatchewan, other than vehicles). So, now I have to come up with documentation proving the equipment was bought used, fill out a bunch of forms, and send it all off to the revenue leaches, hoping that they might decide to reimburse the PST. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Don't worry, Julia...
Fred wrote: Well, it ~is~ the ~Pentax~ Discussion Mailing List... Right? /// Off course, It's about Pentax equipment, but also about what you do with this pieces of metal, plastic and glass, it is, to take photographs Besides, Albano, it seems as if ~you~ (maintainer of the Most Used Body Survey, the Favorite Body Survey, the Favorite Film Survey, the Favorite Lens Survey, and the the Bodies Survey - did I miss any?) are into equipment a bit yourself - g. /// Yes, off course. I'm curious about what people like or not, etc, and I think it's very valuable data wich is based on their experience. I mean, you wonder how good is the 24mm FA? Take a look and see it's the favorite lens of the list. I think it says a lot. And I'm not in equipment in my personal life. I've 2 bodies (probably just one in the near future) and 5 not overlapping primes. I do this lists because I find it entertaining and valuable, and help make my labor's day more sufferable, as is the case with the pdml. I read it in my free moments at work, as I do the surveys. I like to read about equipment but it also turns boring and VERY repeating with time. I've contemplated leaving a lot of times, but for now I stay. It's my main photo activity right now, as I'm shooting 1 roll of film per month, sometimes less. Sorry for the ranting. AND IN REGARDS TO JULIA: What I wanted to mean with my message was she is doing very good right now with basic equipment but good technique, and I guess starting to worry about gear will take apart the freshness of her photography. Of course I can be wrong, it's just what I think. JULIA: KEEP IT SIMPLE Regards Albano - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: AF200T ?
Thanks, Any idea what the T and W on the little green and red strips mean? I'm thinking Tele Wide but. Cory - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 11:47 AM Subject: Re: AF200T ? Hi, CBWaters wrote: I just got an AF200T First off, what's the deal with the red green settings? Two different auto scales. I forget what f numbers you have to use with them. The little beep, that's to tell you when the flash is fully recharged, right? No, it's to tell you that the scene received enough light, in auto and TTL. I forgot I had my 5n set on multi-frame and took about three shots with the flash set to TTL and it fired all three times (beeping all the time), did it give me all the juice I needed or was it just trying to be nice? Definitely the first, probably both. It _is_ a Pentax. Do I have to set the ASA switch on the flash for TTL mode or is it just a reference? Reference. There is nothing under there; same with the 280T. Same with auto. The camera/lens control the light, through electronics in TTL and the aperture in auto. Lots of new quirks to learn with this flash. It's a cute little beast. Works on the hotshoe grip as well, for off camera TTL flash. Be kind to it. m - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Asahi patent for hybrid digital/film SLR
I was not able to get that URL to work, but going to: http://164.195.100.11/netahtml/srchnum.htm and searching for 6374060 worked. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Mark Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 11:40 AM Subject: Asahi patent for hybrid digital/film SLR All, Today (April 16, 2002) Asahi Kogaku Kogyo Kabushiki Kaisha was awarded patent 6,374,060 for a Hybrid camera selectively using photographic film and image sensor. The patent depicts a 35mm SLR with an interchangeable film or digital back. Judging by the drawings, it looks fairly mature (maybe close to an actual implementation). Wouldn't that be cool? Hope they actually produce it!!! --Mark p.s., Here's a link which may or may not work: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFd=PALLp=1 u=/netahtml/srchnum.htmr=1f=Gl=50s1='6374060'.WKU.OS=PN/6374060RS=PN/ 6374060 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Medium Format - To Pentax or not to Pentax.
William Robb writes: I don't know who you were quoting Mike, but the person being quoted is wrong (my opinion only). 6x6 is a different format from 6x4.5, with different shooting requirements. If you shoot 6x6, and make rectangular prints, you have chosen the wrong format to shoot with. I know a couple of people with Hasselblads who have taken the time to learn how to use the square format to it's best advantage, and they make beautiful large, square prints. I think you are right on target here. I've observed that from my own experiences. I used to have a 6x6 MF camera before I started using 35mm gear. I happened to stumble across my MF negatives last fall. When I look at them I see photography that is quite different from the photos which I make in the rectangular 35mm format. There is framing and composition in the square format which I _just wouldn't try_ in 35mm. I would do something else instead. That something else is often incompatible with a resulting square crop, or would not contain the right elements to make into a good square photo later. I just don't know how to say it well, but the framing and composition comes out _different_ in the square format. Not better, different. Sometimes I think the square composition is better than any composition I would have done with a rectangular 35mm camera. Other times a 35mm wide composition may have been better ... however cropping with MF isn't as bad as 35mm cropping. Going through my 6x6 negatives was one reason that I started to push hard for MF gear again, instead of just thinking about it in abstract terms and holding off purchasing it. As I've mentiond earlier, I was looking to get a 6x6 body. I noticed the Pentax 6x7 due to the mystical brotherhood, and discovered the affordability of the components. 6x7 is not _that_ different from 6x6, unlike the much wider 35mm. If I really want to shoot square format with the 6x7 I don't really loose all that much; I could always insert some framing material between the finder and the body to aid square framing. The only downside is that you still get 10 shots per roll. :) Bolo -- Josef T. Burger - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Shooting memories (was: Re: Your desert-island kit?)
I always carry a camera, too. I, however, have discovered that photo ops never occur in my vicinity when I have a camera. I look at carrying a camera as disaster prevention, as a result. Len --- -Original Message- From: Malcolm Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 10:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Shooting memories (was: Re: Your desert-island kit?) Paul, This should be on the introduction page of any book aimed at a new photographer. I am learning to take a camera with me at all times, I have been amazed at the opportunities I would otherwise have missed. Great thoughts. Malcolm Ah, but your grandchildren and their children will be eternally grateful for the memories you've captured. I get this everytime I want to shoot my wife and girls baking together, playing piano together, or doing each other's hair while watching TV. Endure the criticisms now; you're leaving a priceless legacy. I recently picked up my daughter from middle school, dropping off her friend Janet. Janet raced to the mailbox and opened a thin envelope that bore the news that she had not been accepted into a special academic program. As she read the letter, I snapped a couple photos from behind the wheel of my car. When the prints arrived, I asked my daughter to give them to Janet. Why would she want them? she asked, incredulous. This, too, is life, I replied. I have photos of me discovering my first gray hair, signing my divorce, undergoing dental work and foot surgery, and crying over the loss of a girlfriend. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Pentax LX Millennium Edition
Is this available for purchase? I wonder how much it costs. http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/pentaxlx/pentaxy2k/htmls/2.htm http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/pentaxlx/pentaxy2k/htmls/index.htm - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Asahi patent for hybrid digital/film SLR
Sounds interesting, and now that the patent has been awarded I hope they follow through with it. Most important is that this camera would also allow the sensor to be upgraded as well as the use of film. All, Today (April 16, 2002) Asahi Kogaku Kogyo Kabushiki Kaisha was awarded patent 6,374,060 for a Hybrid camera selectively using photographic film and image sensor. The patent depicts a 35mm SLR with an interchangeable film or digital back. Judging by the drawings, it looks fairly mature (maybe close to an actual implementation). Wouldn't that be cool? Hope they actually produce it!!! --Mark p.s., Here's a link which may or may not work: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFd=PALLp=1u=/netahtml/srchnum.htmr=1f=Gl=50s1='6374060'.WKU.OS=PN/6374060RS=PN/ 6374060 - __ Find, Connect Date! http://personals.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Asahi patent for hybrid digital/film SLR
Don't in any way be lured into thinking that a patent application or award thereof signifies an intent to manufacture or even an intent to do research. All it means, and in most cases is likely to mean, is that the company thinks this is a good idea, so files the patent. Regards, /\/\ick... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Malcolm's Plums
In a message dated 16/04/02 17:13:52 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Shocked :-0 I dread to think what you were eating LOL! Malcolm I was quaking when I saw the title - hey, I am eating my lunch now.. But fortunately it was simply my imagination working overtime. Saake onigiri, and some cold karaage. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Photographica May 12th London
As suggested by Dave Mann - Photographica on May 12th is the best camera show in the UK. Make a beeline for it. Kind regards from sunny Brighton Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
KM for spares
Tidy camera - shutter not firing - first GBP10/ US$14.80 (plus delivery) takes it. Kind regards Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Charge Pack M USA
One of my customers now has a spare Charge Pack M (USA), owing to the fact that he purchased our Power Pack M - the b%^stard. GBP25 or US$37.80 (plus delivery). Kind regards Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Color is So Much Easier
On Tuesday, April 16, 2002, at 10:23 AM, T Rittenhouse wrote: I do believe that is one of the reason digital is becoming so popular with pros who would rather use 120 film. I was talking to a couple of guys who do a lot of assisting in Toronto, and they said that they could only think of one photographer in the city whose portfolio was NOT printed digitally...and his portfolio was silver gelatin stuff. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Asahi patent for hybrid digital/film SLR
Sounds perfect to me, but didn't they also patent that TLR-esque thing that we've never seen as well? R - Original Message - From: Mick Maguire [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 11:29 AM Subject: RE: Asahi patent for hybrid digital/film SLR Don't in any way be lured into thinking that a patent application or award thereof signifies an intent to manufacture or even an intent to do research. All it means, and in most cases is likely to mean, is that the company thinks this is a good idea, so files the patent. Regards, /\/\ick... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: C41 BW film (was Re: Color is So Much Easier)
Surprisingly good stuff and it is different than turning the color into BW in Photoshop. BW in photoshop is merely grayscale but having the BW Color Process Film offers, at least to me, more subtlety when it comes to the image. My fave currently (while expensive) is the Kodak Portra 400 BW. For those of you in the Toronto area; Japan Camera in the Eaton Centre does a GREAT job of this film and the prints I recently received offer almost no color cast at all and appear VERY close to BW. This is the best job I've seen so far of Color Process BW developing/printing Cheers, Dave Original Message: - From: Mishka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 12:52:36 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: C41 BW film (was Re: Color is So Much Easier) what do you guys think about it? is it better/different than shooting color and then just turning to BW in photoshop? i never tried it and really curious how is it different (if at all) from regular BW film - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Shooting memories (was: Re: Your desert-island kit?)
tom v asked: Just out of curiosity, who shot them? All were shot between 1986 and 1991 with my Minox 35 ML or GT, using 800, 1000, or 1600-speed color print film. When I discovered my first gray hair, I was in the men's room at work. I handed my Minox 35 to the first man to walk in. The signing of my divorce was shot by my lawyer's assistant (in the law office, not at court). My kids have a copy. The dental work was shot by the receptionist. The foot surgery was shot by one of the nurses. Afterwards, I told her, Thanks, Stephanie; you give good foot. :) To shoot myself crying over the loss of my girlfriend, I set the Minox 35 on a nearby surface and used the self-timer. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Opinions on standard zooms
John Leonard wrote: ... I'm wondering whether that Sigma zoom is a bit too budget. Probably, yes. I'm tempted to replace it with a 28-105 internal-focussing (I just HATE that filter ring turning). Have considered Pentax, Sigma, Tokina and Tamron. I've been satisfied enough with the Tokina but its coating and flare resistance just suck. Pentax has been already covered. The Tamron and Sigma 28-105/4-5.6 are pretty good and inexpensive. Like the idea of faster lens, so Sigma 28-105 F2.8-4 very attractive, but Sigma again? Need to keep below 200 UK pounds (ideally). Forget it. It's a really bad lens. I've noticed that IF lenses seem to whirr more on focussing. Could the increased load on the camera auto-focus drive be a problem? IMO, no. I'm sure Pentax would say using anything but a Pentax lens might wreck the camera, but what is the truth? ... It doesn't matter in the slightest, as long as the lens fit properly. There has been some discussion about some Vivitar MF lenses getting stuck on AF Pentax Bodies but in my experience it didn't crop up. In modern AF cameras and lenses there may be some grade of incompatibility WRT electronic innards (i.e. misreading of aperture values and the like. Some Sigmas seem to have that, sometimes). Bottom line: if you want speed and quality go for an affordable set of second hand primes. Relatively fast and good quality zooms are pretty heavy and expensive. For a comparative chart I laid down some time ago you can check: http://space.tin.it/arte/flamin/28-105.html I can't check it right now but it should still be there. Ciao, Flavio - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Shooting memories (was: Re: Your desert-island kit?)
I've written a one-page personal essay about my passion for candidly capturing life's everyday moments, and how it's not always to everyone's liking. I'll be glad to send the .PDF file to anyone who's interested. Ask for The Bigger Picture. It was going to appear in 2000, with some of the photos I've mentioned, on a website about photography, but the site folded. I can't recall its name; it was based out of the same city as Dale Labs in Florida. Malcolm Smith wrote: Paul, This should be on the introduction page of any book aimed at a new photographer. I am learning to take a camera with me at all times, I have been amazed at the opportunities I would otherwise have missed. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Shooting memories (was: Re: Your desert-island kit?)
Years ago, one of the staffers for Modern or Popular Photography described how people rolled their eyes and groaned when she'd shoot away at a party...then be delighted when they received the prints. Here in the USA, most of us have seen the touching Kodak TV commercials about a shy, strange (Goth) teenage girl who uses her one-time camera to snap candids of schoolmates, then assembles the results in a montage, to the delight of all. Cory wrote: Funny how a person (my mother) can, in the same moment, complain about having her picture taken and also complain about never receiving any prints of the wonderful (not my word here) pictures I take... [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Your desert-island kit?
If I only get one lens, the probability exists that I would want to do some cropping and/or enlarging to some of the images for compositional purposes once I got off the island. If I knew about this in advance, I might be tempted to invest in a 4x5 camera with a lens around 160mm for this purpose. If I have to pick something I have owned, I'd still want the biggest piece of chrome I could possible have, so I would choose a 6x7 with a 90mm LS or perhaps the 75mm. I might try to sneak a short extension tube into the mix, too. -jim - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Your minimal kit (was Re: Your desert-island kit? )
LX and an 85/1.4 -Original Message- From: Mark Erickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 3:46 PM To: pentax-discuss Subject: Your minimal kit (was Re: Your desert-island kit? ) OK, all you overly-literal type-A folks. I was using desert-island as a figure of speech, and not posing a castaway scenario. Let me clarify: Go wherever you want, do whatever you want to do, etc., but pare your kit down to one body and fixed-focal-length lens. You can have all the batteries, film, and processing you want. I'm looking for a keep it simple setup, so try to minimize loading up on accessories. What body and lens would you choose, and why? By why, I'm really asking what kind of shooting is important to you and how you might do it with a simple setup. --Mark - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: UK eBay - someone got a good deal on an AF280T
Under the sink with bleach in. (You put my bleach in WHAT?) That is a good price.But were's the 'plastic bouncy thingy' :) Dave - Begin Original Message From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 13:31:21 +0100 To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: UK eBay - someone got a good deal on an AF280T I was watching this one, but bloody forgot about it! @%£@@£$@! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1345073046 £37 for a 280T! Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Customs for Canucks
Dave, you pay at the door if you're there or they leave you a card with the amount and you pick up the packet at the post office. The best way to have something sent from USA is definitely USPS as canadian customs charge (when they do) only $5 in brokerage fees. (UPS takes charge of the brokerage fees and it looks like they like it because it might get very expensive...) A few years ago, 50% of the packets would be grabbed by customs, now about 20%, probably because mines now often come with a very low declared value. It looks like custom workers in Saskatchewan have less traffic than in Quebec, William. I understand that here they actually have only the manpower to check a fraction of the entering packets. In any circumstances, the lower the declared value, the lower the amount of taxes you pay when you pay some. Big businesses and some privates don't want to declare a lower value. Most do it though. As far as I'm concerned, insurance (and full declared value) is useless if you trust the seller ; I mean the packet will be sent and it won't be lost by USPS or canadian post. (I know it happened to this guy five years ago, and a cousin told me once...). You take this (very very small) chance or you pay more! If you loose something one day, you will probably have saved more over the years than this single loss. Cheers, Andre How do they hit you up for this money.When the package arives at the local post office do they call up,have you pick it up and charge you then.?? Dave Begin Original Message From: andre langevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 18:04:08 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Customs for Canucks I have about a 25% rate of stuff that gets mailed from the US getting hit by customs, and this was one of them. Poop. frank High rate, maybe because you have you packets insured, then have the real value written on the green tag. For items below 50$ I ask it uninsured and suggest a low declared value AND for the description: USED camera or USED parts. But I've seen a 10$ packet hit by the customs (uncommon) and a few $100 ones go go through it without being arrested and fined. Andre -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Shooting memories (was: Re: Your desert-island kit?)
Len, I started carrying a camera in the car a while back, since I watched a programme in which our traffic police suggested it. A lot of people have minor accidents which when written on the claim forms later turn out to be works of fiction. There is also a growing trend of some villains who purposefully drive into you on their own, and later claim forms state he had 3 or 4 passengers, all of which had whiplash injuries which were the innocent parties fault. A better reason for me is capturing events on the way to school Dad what's that type questions, which you can later discuss at leisure. I have to admit that the best camera I could use for all of this would be digital, just for speed of results, but the pleasure of using the LX/MX would never make digital number one. Malcolm I always carry a camera, too. I, however, have discovered that photo ops never occur in my vicinity when I have a camera. I look at carrying a camera as disaster prevention, as a result. Len - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: AF200T ?
Cory Waters wrote: Any idea what the T and W on the little green and red strips mean? I'm thinking Tele Wide but. Hi Cory, That's exactly what the T and W mean -- telephoto (probably 135-ish) and wide angle (probably 28- to 35-ish). Bill Peifer Rochester, NY - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: Malcolm's Plums
Hi Mike, it's just occurred to me that you could try the newspaper library at Colindale. They're part of the British Library, so you might be able to search using their website, or at least ask someone for help. --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tuesday, April 16, 2002, 1:07:56 PM, you wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was quaking when I saw the title - hey, I am eating my lunch now.. But fortunately it was simply my imagination working overtime. Wait till you see the newspaper headline I'm trying to authenticate... Do you know any on-line archives of WWI newspapers? mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Asahi patent for hybrid digital/film SLR
COOL! http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFd=PALLp= 1 u=/netahtml/srchnum.htmr=1f=Gl=50s1='6374060'.WKU.OS=PN/6374060RS=PN / 6374060 Link works fine for me... Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Asahi patent for hybrid digital/film SLR
This is a line from the Patent grant: The CCD 41 of an image sensor has a photodetector 41C consisting of a plurality of photodiodes. An area of the photodetector 41C, shown by diagonal hatching, is a light-receiving area, on which the object image is formed. A size of the light-receiving area coincides with one frame of the photographic film F, namely, the exposure area of the photographic film F. Therefore, the object image obtained by the CCD 41 is identical to the object image recorded on the photographic film F. Excuse me, but doesn't that sound like a 24X36mm CCD??? Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Where to buy Pentax in Vancouver
Hi All - I'm Looking for a second body, I want to be able to use some of the A series lenses, right now I can only really use the newer FA (to my limited knoledge) with my mz-50. I can't decide which body to buy, I am leaning towards the mz-s, I got to hold one recently and I almost bought it on the spot. But the place where I was looking at it wanted $1700.00 Cad. for just the body. But which body to buy is not really my question, I like to touch things before I buy them, but I have not found a retailer in the Vancouver area that has a good selection of pentax equipment. I'd like to look at the MZ-7, MZ-6, and the MZ-5n before I make a choice, but none of the dealers that I have visited seem to have all of them in stock. Can somebody from the vancouver area recommend a dealer in the lower mainland that has a good selection and decent prices. at $1700 Cad the MZ-S is cheaper to buy online and pay duty+taxes+shipping. - Chris -- Chris Murray /\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN http://apeman.org/ XAGAINST HTML MAIL Cell: 604.861.8307 / \/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Customs for Canucks
Thanks Andre. Dave Begin Original Message From: andre langevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 13:40:38 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Customs for Canucks Dave, you pay at the door Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: Your minimal kit (was Re: Your desert-island kit? )
Hi, because the M3 has framelines for 50mm, 90mm and 135mm lenses, so using a 35mm lens is inconvenient with an M3. The M4-2 (and all others from the M2 onwards until just recently) have framelines for at least a 35mm, 50mm, 90mm lens. --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tuesday, April 16, 2002, 1:34:15 AM, you wrote: Bob, why one lens = M3, and two lenses = M4-2? ukasz - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Asahi patent for hybrid digital/film SLR
Sounds like a combination pressure plate/CCD sensor to me. Warren From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Asahi patent for hybrid digital/film SLR This is a line from the Patent grant: The CCD 41 of an image sensor has a photodetector 41C consisting of a plurality of photodiodes. An area of the photodetector 41C, shown by diagonal hatching, is a light-receiving area, on which the object image is formed. A size of the light-receiving area coincides with one frame of the photographic film F, namely, the exposure area of the photographic film F. Therefore, the object image obtained by the CCD 41 is identical to the object image recorded on the photographic film F. Excuse me, but doesn't that sound like a 24X36mm CCD??? Cotty - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Vs: Color is So Much Easier
Meaning normal blackwhite. Exotic! All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 16. huhtikuuta 2002 18:52 Aihe: Re: Color is So Much Easier On Tuesday, April 16, 2002, at 10:23 AM, T Rittenhouse wrote: snip ...and his portfolio was silver gelatin stuff. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Your desert-island kit?
Where you going to get film for that on a deserted island? I think that if I was going to get marooned on a desert island, and could have any one thing I wanted with me, I would take a satellite telephone. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Rupprecht, James R [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 1:18 PM Subject: RE: Your desert-island kit? If I only get one lens, the probability exists that I would want to do some cropping and/or enlarging to some of the images for compositional purposes once I got off the island. If I knew about this in advance, I might be tempted to invest in a 4x5 camera with a lens around 160mm for this purpose. If I have to pick something I have owned, I'd still want the biggest piece of chrome I could possible have, so I would choose a 6x7 with a 90mm LS or perhaps the 75mm. I might try to sneak a short extension tube into the mix, too. -jim - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Photographica May 12th London
Whereabouts will the Photgraphica show be on May 12th, Peter? Will you have a stall? Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax Super Program
Not really. I can do better. I have two of them. Doug At 01:15 PM 4/16/02 -0700, you wrote: Is US $182.50 a good price for a Super Program? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1346759280 James - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Honeywell Pentax H1
Francis Alviar asked: How good are Honeywell Pentax H1's? Dunno the H1, but if it's anything like the H1a and the H3, they're sweet. Note that they predate through-the-lens metering though. -- Glenn - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax Super Program
Is US $182.50 a good price for a Super Program? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1346759280 It's not a particularly good price, unless the SP is in really good shape. Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: KM for spares
Peter, Does the meter work properly? I have a mechanically good KM with a bad meter. Perhaps they should meet. Regards, Tim Engel - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 11:47 AM Subject: KM for spares Tidy camera - shutter not firing - first GBP10/ US$14.80 (plus delivery) takes it. Kind regards Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax Super Program
Doug is one of those supposed to be mine, remember? hehe --- Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not really. I can do better. I have two of them. Doug __ Find, Connect Date! http://personals.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Equipment or picture / was Re: Don't worry, Julia...
I second you, Albano. I like the PDML in general but I look most of the time - for discussion on lenses simply because I think they are more important for a good picture than the body I also look to the PDML for equipment info, and especially for lens info, for the exact same reason, Bernd. (As for my reply to Albano's post, I was just kidding him a bit - g - I couldn't resist.) Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Don't worry, Julia...
Well, it ~is~ the ~Pentax~ Discussion Mailing List... Right? /// Off course, It's about Pentax equipment, but also about what you do with this pieces of metal, plastic and glass, it is, to take photographs I understand, Albano. However, I think that, if the PDML ~had~ to be about ~just~ equipment ~or~ photographs (which ~fortunately~ it doesn't have to be one or the other), that it should be about equipment. After all, there are other forums for general photography information and sharing, but this is the main ~Pentax~ forum. Besides, Albano, it seems as if ~you~ (maintainer of the Most Used Body Survey, the Favorite Body Survey, the Favorite Film Survey, the Favorite Lens Survey, and the the Bodies Survey - did I miss any?) are into equipment a bit yourself - g. /// Yes, off course. I'm curious about what people like or not, etc, and I think it's very valuable data wich is based on their experience. [snip] I was just kidding you a bit, Albano. big smiley face And I do certainly appreciate your efforts in maintaining the surveys, as well as your other inputs to the PDML. Sorry for the ranting. No need to apologize at all, Sir. I did not consider it ranting - g Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 28
On Tuesday, April 16, 2002, at 03:51 PM, Bill Owens wrote: If you're talking about the new one being the 645, then I'm the guilty party. Nah, there's a new 6x7 in there! But welcome in to the Brotherhood, even if you're shooting with the compromise-weenie version of the 67. ;) -Aaron p.s. I'd own a 645 on top of my other gear, too, if I had the money. Shhh, don't tell anyone. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Customs for Canucks
Just a couple of thoughts to add. First, if you're not home and they leave a card, they're ~supposed~ to write on the card whether you've got to pay, and how much. They don't always do that however, at least around here. I've gotten to the P.O. the next day, with a card that indicates no charges, and found that I've had to pay. Be prepared... Second, you're right about UPS, Andre (I don't know about the other Big Courier Companies). We've had extensive discussions here in the past, so I don't want to start anything here, but UPS tried to charge me a $45 brokerage fee (incl. customs and duty and all that) for a bike jersey that I paid $10US for on eBay. Needless to say, I refused it (damned crooks). The moral, Dave, is always demand that stuff be shipped US Postal. Always. regards, frank andre langevin wrote: Dave, you pay at the door if you're there or they leave you a card with the amount and you pick up the packet at the post office. The best way to have something sent from USA is definitely USPS as canadian customs charge (when they do) only $5 in brokerage fees. (UPS takes charge of the brokerage fees and it looks like they like it because it might get very expensive...)... -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Your desert-island kit?
Hey, Aaron, On your Dream Island, Pamela Anderson wouldn't also happen to be stranded, would she? (Apologies to the lovely Vanessa) vbg Aaron Reynolds wrote: BH has a location on the desert island in my dreams. -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Don't worry, Julia...
What? This isn't the Queen Mum and Post-colonialism list? vbg Fred wrote: I understand, Albano. However, I think that, if the PDML ~had~ to be about ~just~ equipment ~or~ photographs (which ~fortunately~ it doesn't have to be one or the other), that it should be about equipment. After all, there are other forums for general photography information and sharing, but this is the main ~Pentax~ forum. -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Asahi patent for hybrid digital/film SLR
Unfortunately that isn't my experience. I worked in a design group at Texas Instruments in the late 80's and all our patent work was written up in this level of detail whether we had any intention of using it or not. Generally the patent would be based on real RD work which would involve real designs etc, it's just that there was no intent to take it further at that time. At that time TI made more money per year on patent royalties and infringement law suits that it made on the all of it's semiconductor sales put together. Intellectual property was a *huge* part of TI's business, and this is much the same for other companies. In this case Pentax may well be staking claim to this idea in the hope somebody else will license it from them... then again they may well be going to production too, we wont know until it's out there. Regards, /\/\ick... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Asahi patent for hybrid digital/film SLR
I should add that I'd love this to be right Mark, just that I am skeptical, however advanced the drawings look... wouldnt it be nice to have an MZ-S that did both digital and film? That is assuming it was a manageable size anyway. Regards, /\/\ick... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 28
Hey Aaron, we retardees, whoops, I mean retirees need to watch the pennies and the 645 was available on ebay for a good price. Bill KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 4:56 PM Subject: Re: Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 28 On Tuesday, April 16, 2002, at 03:51 PM, Bill Owens wrote: If you're talking about the new one being the 645, then I'm the guilty party. Nah, there's a new 6x7 in there! But welcome in to the Brotherhood, even if you're shooting with the compromise-weenie version of the 67. ;) -Aaron p.s. I'd own a 645 on top of my other gear, too, if I had the money. Shhh, don't tell anyone. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Favorite Body Survey Results UPDATE 28
p.s. I'd own a 645 on top of my other gear, too, if I had the money. Shhh, don't tell anyone. I promise to tell no one except Vanessa. :-) Bill KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Pentax Super Program
James- I just bought another Super Program for $102.50 on ebay and I consider that to be only a fair deal, I'll have to reserve judgment for when I actually get the camera. Taka - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax Super Program
I've bought three at $180 to $200 each. But each was from a store, where stood behind the camera for 90 days and (for two of them) let me buy a four-year no fault extended warranty for $10 a year. For this camera, it's a buyer's market, so don't be in a hurry to buy unless you see credible evidence that it's in great shape. James Adams wrote: Is US $182.50 a good price for a Super Program? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1346759280 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Medium Format - To Pentax or not to Pentax.
Hello all I am the one who was qouted regarding the 6x6 format. A lot of photographers see the 6x7 format as the ideal format. I tend to agree. I know that a lot of photographers use 6x6 (Hasselbald etc.). But how many photoggraphs are actually 6x6/square ind the end? (All the people I know, that use Hassies make rectangular pictures!) My bet is, that less than 10 pct? 5%?, 3%? end up square! Pentax, Mamiya and many other produce 6x7 cameras! Why Because most pictures end up rectangular anyway!! That's why! This doesn't mean that some brilliant photograps are square. And you CAN actually make square photographs from a 6x7 neg. without loosing much quality. It's more difficult/expensive the other way around, isn't it? Regards Jens Bladt, Denmark -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]På vegne af William Robb Sendt: 16. april 2002 01:08 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: 6x7 manual - Original Message - From: William Kane Subject: 6x7 manual Hey gang, Does anyone know if the 6x7 manual is the same as the 67 manual? Pentax has the 67 manual on their website (US), but not the 6x7 . . . They are essentially the same camera. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Medium Format - To Pentax or not to Pentax.
Hello all Correction:I of course meant: This doesn't mean that some brilliant photograps are not square. Regards Jens Bladt, Denmark -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]På vegne af William Robb Sendt: 16. april 2002 01:08 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: 6x7 manual - Original Message - From: William Kane Subject: 6x7 manual Hey gang, Does anyone know if the 6x7 manual is the same as the 67 manual? Pentax has the 67 manual on their website (US), but not the 6x7 . . . They are essentially the same camera. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax LX Millennium Edition
It's about the same price as a new Leica M6 then? Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Jose R. Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: Re: Pentax LX Millennium Edition Francis, Peter from Camera Direct does sell a Pentax LX 2000 Limited Set for £2,999.00 ~ $4,317.00 USD. http://www.camera-direct.com./other.asp I would love to own one but I would be afraid to use it; would not want to scuff/scratch it... Regards, -- Jose R. Rodriguez From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2002/04/16 Tue AM 11:21:58 CDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Pentax LX Millennium Edition Is this available for purchase? I wonder how much it costs. http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/pentaxlx/pentaxy2k/h tmls/2.htm http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/pentaxlx/pentaxy2k/h tmls/index.htm - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Asahi patent for hybrid digital/film SLR
Being Pentax, they will probably license the design out to one of their competitors. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: Mark Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 4:12 PM Subject: RE: Asahi patent for hybrid digital/film SLR Actually, I think you can make guesses based on the look of the drawings in a patent. If, for example, the drawings are very generic, it is like that the invention was never built (in prototype form or otherwise). If, on the other hand very specific drawings and exploded views are included in the patent, they were probably lifted directly from an engineer's CAD station. This indicates that they spent at least some $$$ on a study, and maybe even fabricated something. So my theory is, More mature drawings indicate greater chance of actual product release. Of course, it's all just guesswork; how else do you think rumors get started? --Mark -Mick wrote- Don't in any way be lured into thinking that a patent application or award thereof signifies an intent to manufacture or even an intent to do research. All it means, and in most cases is likely to mean, is that the company thinks this is a good idea, so files the patent. Regards, /\/\ick... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
MZ-S DOF Preview Usage ?
I already own an MZ-S, but would like to know how other owners use their depth of field preview. I used to point my camera at the nearest object that I wanted to be in focus, half pressed the shutter release to focus, and then re-composed. Then I would check the DOF, but to do this I had to release the shutter release. So when I re-pressed the shutter release the camera re-focused (to my annoyance). I've recently switched technique and disabled auto-focus on the shutter release. So now I use the auto focus button on the camera back, which means I can fiddle with the DOF preview and all the other buttons and the focus remains fixed. I was wondering if anybody has found a different or better technique of using the DOF preview ? It strikes me that if the DOF preview lever was placed in a more suitable place, then I would be able to hold the shutter release down with one finger whilst operating the DOF preview with another. Andy F - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Medium Format - To Pentax or not to Pentax.
Jens Bladt, Denmark I think I had a great time in Copenhagen back in 1967. I was there for about 48 hours courtesy of the USAF. First night there I drank Tuborg like I would Budweiser here. That's why I THINK I had a great time. Memories are kind of fuzzy. :-) Bill KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
