RE: Pentax WILL (most likely) show a digital SLR at Photokina!
Hi Dave, At the time Pentax announced they were scrapping plans for the 6MP full-frame DSLR, they also announced that they would be working on a lesser-specced DSLR along the lines of the (then) Canon D30. I have an AP with this info in the news pages somewhere, unless it's one of the ones I took to Norway for Jostein . In any event, the press release will be available on the web somewhere. Pal will no doubt have link to it or somebody else. To reiterate: the official linbe is that they are indeed working on a DSLR, and this has never been retracted. Best wishes, Cotty Cor, swipe me. He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free UK Macintosh classified ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
Vs: FA 50 f/1.4 vs. FA 50 F/1.7
I have no experience of autofocus 50 mm lenses but I once did a bit of slide copying with bellows and 1.7 SMC-M and 1.4 SMC-M - the 1.4 was poor and the 1.7 usable - but the 50 mm EL-Nikkor enlarging lens I now use is excellent. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Michael Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vastaanottaja: Pentax Mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Päivä: 06. syyskuuta 2002 22:56 Aihe: FA 50 f/1.4 vs. FA 50 F/1.7 >I would appreciate the advice of fellow Pentax users on the following: > >I recently purchased the FA 50 f/1.4 and am a little disappointed in its >sharpness below about f/4.0 on close-focus subjects. I am thinking a >exchanging it for the FA 50 f/1.7, thinking that the slower lens might >have a little better close-focus sharpness in the f/1.7 to f/2.8 range. >I do most of my shooting in the close-focus range and rarely shoot at >infinity. > >I have also considered the 43mm f/1.9, but prefer the 50mm view. > >Any comments on the FA 50mm f/1.7 sharpness and bokeh would be >appreciated. > >Michael Cross >
RE: Flatbed scanners for 35mm
I also forgot- thanks to all who replied, it was very helpful and very timely. Have a good weekend! Taka
RE: Flatbed scanners for 35mm
So in conclusion to my query, I did a bit more research and got an Epson 1660 Photo. It cost $30 more than the Canon 1250U2F, but it is much better. Advantages of the Epson over Canon: 1. Can scan up to 6 frames at once 2. No manually moving the frames in the negative holder 3. Sharper negative scans 4. 3200x1600 scans vs. 2400x1200 for Canon Advantages of Canon over Epson: 1. More compact- very thin 2. Consumes less power 3. Longer life w/ an LED array vs. cold-cathode lamp? 4. TWAIN driver is faster, better designed than Epson's HP was out because I couldn't find the 5370 that people mentioned, the 5400 did not have a transparency adapter (it is optional), the 5500 is much more expensive and anything lower-line (like the 3570) has less resolution and seemingly less capable. I also couldn't figure out the model lines- there are so many HP scanners out there, depending on which store you go to there are different models or so it seems. Now this is definitely no substitute for a real film scanner but I'm hoping this will be more than sufficient to proof negatives before printing, esp. enlargements. I'm hoping my shots of the '62 Ferrari GTO will come out as good or better than the BMW 3.5 CSL, which might be a keeper (at least up to 5x7"). Taka
Re: MZ-S users and the speculation on DSLRs
That was a long message, but I enjoyed it :) I feel exactly like you, and while I don't have an extensive lens collection, I get by, and I love the MZ-S (with grip, almost essential). You are SO correct about digital cameras, they do go completely obsolete, and I can't see them having any resale value, much like an older computer. Just toss it in the garbage one day. I really don't do much with the digital execept some family shots that I email away. And it is good for that, why I bought a cheap one. I've never printed from digital, I don't need to. That why I could care less about increasing MP. My 2MP Pentax Optio 230 is just fine, and gets limited use. If I want to show my photographs, I have a slide archive, and print binders. I don't need to bring people into my room to view a picture on a monitor, and I don't care if my pictures are showcased on some photo site. I do have a scanner for prints, unfortunately not one for slides, but for it's limited use, it's fine. People get too caught up in digital. *End of Rant* Peace, Brad Dobo - Original Message - From: "John Coyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 8:47 PM Subject: RE: MZ-S users and the speculation on DSLRs > Hi Brad: > For me, digital is becoming less and less attractive since I got the > MZ-S and a scanner/printer setup. I now have a modern, well-built, > well-specified camera which will (presumably) take any new lens that > Pentax might produce, including with IS or USM-focussing. My current > glass runs from 18 to 400mm, and my next buy will probably be a TC for > the odd longer shot. > My local Fuji Frontier lab does scans which are certainly suitable for > family snapshots, if I want bigger and better-to-best quality I can > scan them myself or do a wet print. These scans are routinely done for > me now, and a collection is building on CD's which is indexed and > archived as well as the original negatives. I have no need to rush my > shots off to someone for immediate production: the only PJ-type stuff I > do has sufficiently long lead times for me to go the traditional route > if I have to, or send a scan off within a couple of days at most. > > I certainly have no desire to 'invest' several hundred or thousands of > my hard-earned in a device which will be out of date before it leaves > the shop, and will have little or no resale value when I have to > replace it. I don't buy computers any more, I rent them, and I think > the case is similar for digital cameras. > > If Pentax do release a DSLR at Photokina this year or sometime in the > future, look for a gale of carping from those who will find it > deficient in some respect (not enough of this, too much of that, too > slow here, can't get my fingers round it there) just as we saw with the > MZ-S. Look for comparisons with gear designed for a completely > different task/user, with inferior optics/mechanics/ systems, at > completely outrageous prices, and try not to tremble at the doom-laden > predictions of Pentax's future. As long as Pentax can sustain a very > sound business with their P&S, MF and scientific optical streams, they > will also continue to produce good to high quality 35mm SLR's for we > enthusiasts, whether film or digital. > > Rant over - I feel better now! > > John Coyle > Brisbane, Australia > > > On Saturday, September 07, 2002 8:27 AM, Brad Dobo > [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > Hey group, > > > > This is what I am wondering/worrying about. I sorta recently got the > > MZ-S > > with the grip, etc. MZ-S owners...do we want or care about a DSLR? > > Would > > the DSLR be the flagship? I kind of like the way it is now. I > > already have > > a digital if I really want things only on the computer (Pentax too). > > Opinions! > > >
Re: MZ-S users and the speculation on DSLRs
Brad, Well put. Mishka - Original Message - From: "John Coyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 8:47 PM Subject: RE: MZ-S users and the speculation on DSLRs > Hi Brad: > For me, digital is becoming less and less attractive since I got the > MZ-S and a scanner/printer setup. I now have a modern, well-built, > well-specified camera which will (presumably) take any new lens that > Pentax might produce, including with IS or USM-focussing. My current > glass runs from 18 to 400mm, and my next buy will probably be a TC for > the odd longer shot. > My local Fuji Frontier lab does scans which are certainly suitable for > family snapshots, if I want bigger and better-to-best quality I can > scan them myself or do a wet print. These scans are routinely done for > me now, and a collection is building on CD's which is indexed and > archived as well as the original negatives. I have no need to rush my > shots off to someone for immediate production: the only PJ-type stuff I > do has sufficiently long lead times for me to go the traditional route > if I have to, or send a scan off within a couple of days at most. > > I certainly have no desire to 'invest' several hundred or thousands of > my hard-earned in a device which will be out of date before it leaves > the shop, and will have little or no resale value when I have to > replace it. I don't buy computers any more, I rent them, and I think > the case is similar for digital cameras. > > If Pentax do release a DSLR at Photokina this year or sometime in the > future, look for a gale of carping from those who will find it > deficient in some respect (not enough of this, too much of that, too > slow here, can't get my fingers round it there) just as we saw with the > MZ-S. Look for comparisons with gear designed for a completely > different task/user, with inferior optics/mechanics/ systems, at > completely outrageous prices, and try not to tremble at the doom-laden > predictions of Pentax's future. As long as Pentax can sustain a very > sound business with their P&S, MF and scientific optical streams, they > will also continue to produce good to high quality 35mm SLR's for we > enthusiasts, whether film or digital. > > Rant over - I feel better now! > > John Coyle > Brisbane, Australia > > > On Saturday, September 07, 2002 8:27 AM, Brad Dobo > [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > Hey group, > > > > This is what I am wondering/worrying about. I sorta recently got the > > MZ-S > > with the grip, etc. MZ-S owners...do we want or care about a DSLR? > > Would > > the DSLR be the flagship? I kind of like the way it is now. I > > already have > > a digital if I really want things only on the computer (Pentax too). > > Opinions! > > > > >
Re: Pentax FA / Tamron vs Sigma 28-200's
The general feeling is that the original Tamron/Pentax were dogs. The later Tamron is much better. I know little about the Sigma other than I would never buy a Sigma consumer lens - which this is. Bob - Original Message - From: "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 12:26 PM Subject: Pentax FA / Tamron vs Sigma 28-200's > Hello out there in Pentax-Land. > > Does anyone have any experience with both of the following lens > designs, and (if so) could compare them - > > The Pentax FA / Tamron 28-200/3.8-5.6 (I understand that these are > the same lens) > > - versus - > > The Sigma 28-200/3.5-5.6 > > Yes, I understand that these "do-everything" () lenses are > chock-full of compromises, but nonetheless I am interested in their > comparative optical and build qualities. > > Thanks. > > Fred > >
Pentax FA / Tamron vs Sigma 28-200's
Hello out there in Pentax-Land. Does anyone have any experience with both of the following lens designs, and (if so) could compare them - The Pentax FA / Tamron 28-200/3.8-5.6 (I understand that these are the same lens) - versus - The Sigma 28-200/3.5-5.6 Yes, I understand that these "do-everything" () lenses are chock-full of compromises, but nonetheless I am interested in their comparative optical and build qualities. Thanks. Fred
Vs: pentax-discuss-d Digest V02 #40
I got only about 20 rolls of 36 exposures from my first set of AA batteries in the BG-10 grip. I did not get much more from the MZ-5n and Fg grip. On the other hand, my 24 year old ME is on the 3rd set of batteries and also the winder batteries seem to last for ever. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Päivä: 06. syyskuuta 2002 18:51 Aihe: Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V02 #40 >On Thu, 5 Sep 2002 16:58:23 +0200, Feroze Kistan wrote: > >> One question for MZS owners, what is the battery life on the >> camera, I have a Z70 & an K1000 (my grandfathers) and well I >> get about 20 36 rolls fore I have to make the battery man rich > >I haven't had mine long enough to kill a set of batteries. On my ZX-5, >a pair of lithium batteries would last about 30 rolls of 36 exposures >each, since I rarely use the built-in flash. On the ZX-5 with Battery >Grip Fg, a quartet of AA batteries would get 100 to 120 rolls of 36 >exposures each. I expect similar performance from the MZ-S, but I >almost always use the BG-10, so it should be a while before I need to >replace the AA's. :-) > >TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ > >
Re: Digital backs, medium format and more (was: Pentax WILL (most likely) show a digital SLR at Photokina!)
Dario wrote: >Other > interesting patents (US 6370333, US 6393219) are for a multipoint autofocus > system. Is this different from whats being used on the MZ-S? Cross sensors? Number of points? >Another patent (US > 6388738) deals with a rangefinder. This could be the long rumored Pentax > rangefinder system, but I'll only believe it when I'll see it. I won't believe it when I see it. I will assume that I am hallucinating. > Summing-up, in a not so far future we can expect improvements in digital > cameras, new Limited lenses, a new generation 35mm/CCD SLR system, probably > introducing a new lens series, and a new medium format camera also accepting > digital backs. Okay, most of these products were already rumored during the > last months, and they were also expected just for common sense, but these > patents are the best confirmation that all these innovations are truly under > development at Pentax, not just hopes. > It is likely we'll see something at Photokina next September, and something > more at PMA next Spring. Looks like Pentax is working harder than during the > last decade, after all. Let's hope we're not getting too dissapointed with Photokina. This sort of stuff tends to boost expectations! Pål
RE: Flatbed scanners for 35mm
Taka wrote: > So what would be a recommended flatbed scanner to produce > somewhat reasonable quality 35mm scans for about $150? Hi Taka, I'm actually satisfied with results from my Canoscan D660U, but I may not be as critical as other users. I paid about $120 or $130 for it about a year (??) ago. It has a lamp built into the hood for scanning 35mm negatives. I can get 2400 ppi scans out of it, giving full-frame files of about 22 MB. I think the single-pass optical resolution is actually 1200 ppi, and it actually gets 2400 either by multiple passes using some sort of diffractive optics, or else by software interpolation. Often times I don't do any sharpening during scanning or during post-scan processing, and I probably ~should~ do that as part of normal operating procedure. Perhaps you can take a look at my PUG posts over the last year or so and see how the results I get with this scanner compare with your needs? Bill Peifer Rochester, NY
RE: Flatbed scanners for 35mm
I don't think that one is available any longer. How about a HP 3570c? Taka -Original Message- From: wendy beard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 8:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Flatbed scanners for 35mm I have the same one. It's not bad at all. I'm trying to get it to scan 6x7 negs but not having much success getting them to lie flat. I'll try again when the weather turns bad. Wendy >From: "Glen O'Neal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Taka I use the Hewlett Packard 5370C with the Transparency adapter and >it works great. >-Original Message- >From: TM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 5:48 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Flatbed scanners for 35mm > >Anyone here use a flatbed other than the Epson 2450 >for 35mm negatives? >I recently got a Canon 1250U2F which has a 35mm adapter >and found that the scans are rather "soft" even at 2400 >dpi and they definitely don't appear acceptable for printing, unlike >the digital photos I've downloaded from my digital camera, even at 2MP. >Good thing is that I can save a lot on processing costs by >just having the film developed and then I can scan the negatives >to see which photos are worth printing and just print those. >Taka --- Wendy Beard Ottawa, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] home page http://www.beard-redfern.com
RE: Flatbed scanners for 35mm
epson 1250, but be aware that the film scans will have some scan lines. --- TM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So what would be a recommended flatbed scanner to > produce somewhat > reasonable quality 35mm scans for about $150? If the > Canon is no good, > I need to find something else. > > HP? > > Epson? > > Microtek? > > Which model? > > Taka > > -Original Message- > From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 3:15 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Flatbed scanners for 35mm > > > Hi, > > TM wrote: > > > I recently got a Canon 1250U2F which has a 35mm > adapter > > and found that the scans are rather "soft" even at > 2400 > > dpi and they definitely don't appear acceptable > for printing, unlike > > the digital photos I've downloaded from my digital > camera, even at > > 2MP. > > I think this is a generic Canon fault. My Canoscan > film scanner is the > same, as are others I have seen. If (when) I > upgrade or it dies > permanently, I will not be buying another Canon. > > mike > > __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: Pentax WILL (most likely) show a digital SLR at Photokina!
Right.. Brendan wrote: > Remember the MZ-D, with the 6mp sensor that the contax > dslr now uses, it was finished and ready. Pentax just > decided that the price was not in line with the market > trend and getting the chips was not easy either. > Pentax has a finished DSLR that only needs a cheaper > chip or different market to enter. > > --- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > Original Message: > > - > > From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 19:32:36 +0200 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Pentax WILL (most likely) show a > > digital SLR at Photokina! > > > > > > David wrote: > > > > > Now we look at Pentax - Great 67, decent 645, and > > lots of support from a > > > lot of users out thereBUT no > > interchangeability. Only > > inserts. > > > While it probably could be done, it would have to > > be done with Pentax's > > > blessing and with their help. Pentax engineers > > would have to get > > involved, > > > perhaps more work than a "standard" > > interchangeable back ? Then we look > > at > > > the fact that any digital insert that would be > > made could ONLY be used > > > within the Pentax system and would be totally > > useless if the 3rd party > > > tried to adapt it to Bronica/Mamiya/Blad. > > > > Pal wrote: > > >The 645 has interchangeable backs. It's just that > > you can't change film > > mid->roll without fogging the film, something that > > hasn't the foggiest > > impact on >a digital back. It can easily be done. > > >However, a more awkward technical solution than a > > digital back cannot be > > >imagined. If they make one, it's only a preliminary > > solution. Pentax > > >already has a digital 35mm slr. All they need to do > > is increase film-mount > > >distance with approximately 1,5 cm's. Increase the > > size of the prism and > > >mirror. Mount a 645 lens mount and a bigger CCD and > > the're all set. The > > >same could be done for the 67 system. The 645's > > design is wholly dictated > > >by the fact that the film run up-down. Without this > > limitation, and > > without >a large film transport, a 645 digfital slr > > could be made at the > > same size >as a Nikon F100 and look similar. > > > > > > >Pål > > > > True interchangeable backs would allow you to change > > mid roll - that's the > > whole concept behind them. Pentax's backs, while > > being "interchangeable" > > require you to fire off all the film, or fog it as > > you have suggested. So > > the whole concept of interchangeability is lost. > > > > With respect to the "Pentax already has a digital > > 35mm slr" - is this true > > ? or should it have read "If Pentax already had a > > digital 35mm slr". I'm > > curious since if the former is true, then you > > obviously know something that > > the rest of the world don't :-) > > > > Cheers, > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > > > > __ > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers & Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://geocities.com/dmatyola/ Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399
RE: Flatbed scanners for 35mm
So what would be a recommended flatbed scanner to produce somewhat reasonable quality 35mm scans for about $150? If the Canon is no good, I need to find something else. HP? Epson? Microtek? Which model? Taka -Original Message- From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 3:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Flatbed scanners for 35mm Hi, TM wrote: > I recently got a Canon 1250U2F which has a 35mm adapter > and found that the scans are rather "soft" even at 2400 > dpi and they definitely don't appear acceptable for printing, unlike > the digital photos I've downloaded from my digital camera, even at > 2MP. I think this is a generic Canon fault. My Canoscan film scanner is the same, as are others I have seen. If (when) I upgrade or it dies permanently, I will not be buying another Canon. mike
Re: Pentax WILL (most likely) show a digital SLR at Photokina!
My pov would be that Pentax does not have a DSLR They scrapped that project - they have made nary a sound about it since then and as such have not released any info stating that they do plan on "resurrecting" or even pursuing a "new" digital body. So.. without a piece of equipment to show for it currently.. they do not have a DSLR. Hell, even Sigma had something to show.. mind you.. no one's asking "where's that Sigma DSLR and when is the release date ???" Cheers, Dave Original Message: - From: Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:02:18 -0400 (EDT) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax WILL (most likely) show a digital SLR at Photokina! Remember the MZ-D, with the 6mp sensor that the contax dslr now uses, it was finished and ready. Pentax just decided that the price was not in line with the market trend and getting the chips was not easy either. Pentax has a finished DSLR that only needs a cheaper chip or different market to enter. --- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Original Message: > - > From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 19:32:36 +0200 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Pentax WILL (most likely) show a > digital SLR at Photokina! > > > David wrote: > > > Now we look at Pentax - Great 67, decent 645, and > lots of support from a > > lot of users out thereBUT no > interchangeability. Only > inserts. > > While it probably could be done, it would have to > be done with Pentax's > > blessing and with their help. Pentax engineers > would have to get > involved, > > perhaps more work than a "standard" > interchangeable back ? Then we look > at > > the fact that any digital insert that would be > made could ONLY be used > > within the Pentax system and would be totally > useless if the 3rd party > > tried to adapt it to Bronica/Mamiya/Blad. > > Pal wrote: > >The 645 has interchangeable backs. It's just that > you can't change film > mid->roll without fogging the film, something that > hasn't the foggiest > impact on >a digital back. It can easily be done. > >However, a more awkward technical solution than a > digital back cannot be > >imagined. If they make one, it's only a preliminary > solution. Pentax > >already has a digital 35mm slr. All they need to do > is increase film-mount > >distance with approximately 1,5 cm's. Increase the > size of the prism and > >mirror. Mount a 645 lens mount and a bigger CCD and > the're all set. The > >same could be done for the 67 system. The 645's > design is wholly dictated > >by the fact that the film run up-down. Without this > limitation, and > without >a large film transport, a 645 digfital slr > could be made at the > same size >as a Nikon F100 and look similar. > > > >Pål > > True interchangeable backs would allow you to change > mid roll - that's the > whole concept behind them. Pentax's backs, while > being "interchangeable" > require you to fire off all the film, or fog it as > you have suggested. So > the whole concept of interchangeability is lost. > > With respect to the "Pentax already has a digital > 35mm slr" - is this true > ? or should it have read "If Pentax already had a > digital 35mm slr". I'm > curious since if the former is true, then you > obviously know something that > the rest of the world don't :-) > > Cheers, > Dave > > > > > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > > __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
Re: Pentax WILL (most likely) show a digital SLR at Photokina!
Remember the MZ-D, with the 6mp sensor that the contax dslr now uses, it was finished and ready. Pentax just decided that the price was not in line with the market trend and getting the chips was not easy either. Pentax has a finished DSLR that only needs a cheaper chip or different market to enter. --- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Original Message: > - > From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 19:32:36 +0200 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Pentax WILL (most likely) show a > digital SLR at Photokina! > > > David wrote: > > > Now we look at Pentax - Great 67, decent 645, and > lots of support from a > > lot of users out thereBUT no > interchangeability. Only > inserts. > > While it probably could be done, it would have to > be done with Pentax's > > blessing and with their help. Pentax engineers > would have to get > involved, > > perhaps more work than a "standard" > interchangeable back ? Then we look > at > > the fact that any digital insert that would be > made could ONLY be used > > within the Pentax system and would be totally > useless if the 3rd party > > tried to adapt it to Bronica/Mamiya/Blad. > > Pal wrote: > >The 645 has interchangeable backs. It's just that > you can't change film > mid->roll without fogging the film, something that > hasn't the foggiest > impact on >a digital back. It can easily be done. > >However, a more awkward technical solution than a > digital back cannot be > >imagined. If they make one, it's only a preliminary > solution. Pentax > >already has a digital 35mm slr. All they need to do > is increase film-mount > >distance with approximately 1,5 cm's. Increase the > size of the prism and > >mirror. Mount a 645 lens mount and a bigger CCD and > the're all set. The > >same could be done for the 67 system. The 645's > design is wholly dictated > >by the fact that the film run up-down. Without this > limitation, and > without >a large film transport, a 645 digfital slr > could be made at the > same size >as a Nikon F100 and look similar. > > > >Pål > > True interchangeable backs would allow you to change > mid roll - that's the > whole concept behind them. Pentax's backs, while > being "interchangeable" > require you to fire off all the film, or fog it as > you have suggested. So > the whole concept of interchangeability is lost. > > With respect to the "Pentax already has a digital > 35mm slr" - is this true > ? or should it have read "If Pentax already had a > digital 35mm slr". I'm > curious since if the former is true, then you > obviously know something that > the rest of the world don't :-) > > Cheers, > Dave > > > > > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > > __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
FS Friday: LX, Motor Drive, NiCad Pack LX (individually)
Hi again gang, No takers yet for my pristine LX with Motor Drive and NiCad Pack LX + charger, so I now offer them individually to the list. eBay is the last stage if no takers, this weekend prolly Sunday evening GMT. All prices are rock bottom discount for the list, so unfortunately no offers will be entertained. The hardware: Pentax LX serial number 524XXX in Mint- condition with FA-1. PDML price: 350 GBP ...just back from Asahi Photo in London where it had a full CLA (costing 106 GBP), this camera had been simply superb. With no brassing anywhere on the body, there are only the slightest signs of use. In fact I just had a good look, and the only mark I can see is on the pentaprism housing, there is a slight scratch about 5mm long, not gone through the paint, it's barely noticeable. A few slight scuffs and marks on the base. The leatherette is in good condition and FP and X caps are present. Focussing screen in the standard split image / microprism collar in matte field. ISO dial from 6 to 3200. What can I say? Own the legend. Includes 2 strap lugs. I have some jpegs if you would like to see it, please email me off list. Pentax Motor Drive LX in Exc+ condition. PDML price: 150 GBP Works perfectly. Slight signs of use, leatherette lifting slightly at corners etc. Nothing horrendous. Put it this way, when I got it I was very pleased! 5 frames per second dedicated drive for the LX. Includes remote port cap. Not much to say except it's bloody fast! Jpegs supplied. Pentax Ni-Cd Battery Pack LX in Exc++ condition. PDML price: 150 GBP Re-celled with brand new Sanyo Ni-Cd cells 16 months ago (correction from earlier post) as per Rob Studdert's excellent web site. Battery pack has been used properly, cycled with no 'part' charging, so NiCds in tip top shape. Holds excellent charge and will run the motor drive for more films than I've been able to put through in a day. Guaranteed against DOA, money refunded if not totally happy with this unit. Supplied with Charge Pack M in used condition. Two-prong US-style charger with UK adapter (if required - plugs in to the NiCd pack and charges from AC wall outlet in UK). Jpegs supplied. Shipping extra . Happy to send wherever. Pics of the whole combo can be seen at http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/mods/lxgrip.html Please note the Coffee Table Grip B Extra Length with lug attachment is spoken for and unavailable unless the eager buyer changes his mind in which case I'll offer it to the list. Cor, swipe me. He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free UK Macintosh classified ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
Re: Pentax WILL (most likely) show a digital SLR at Photokina!
Original Message: - From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 19:32:36 +0200 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax WILL (most likely) show a digital SLR at Photokina! David wrote: > Now we look at Pentax - Great 67, decent 645, and lots of support from a > lot of users out thereBUT no interchangeability. Only inserts. > While it probably could be done, it would have to be done with Pentax's > blessing and with their help. Pentax engineers would have to get involved, > perhaps more work than a "standard" interchangeable back ? Then we look at > the fact that any digital insert that would be made could ONLY be used > within the Pentax system and would be totally useless if the 3rd party > tried to adapt it to Bronica/Mamiya/Blad. Pal wrote: >The 645 has interchangeable backs. It's just that you can't change film mid->roll without fogging the film, something that hasn't the foggiest impact on >a digital back. It can easily be done. >However, a more awkward technical solution than a digital back cannot be >imagined. If they make one, it's only a preliminary solution. Pentax >already has a digital 35mm slr. All they need to do is increase film-mount >distance with approximately 1,5 cm's. Increase the size of the prism and >mirror. Mount a 645 lens mount and a bigger CCD and the're all set. The >same could be done for the 67 system. The 645's design is wholly dictated >by the fact that the film run up-down. Without this limitation, and without >a large film transport, a 645 digfital slr could be made at the same size >as a Nikon F100 and look similar. >Pål True interchangeable backs would allow you to change mid roll - that's the whole concept behind them. Pentax's backs, while being "interchangeable" require you to fire off all the film, or fog it as you have suggested. So the whole concept of interchangeability is lost. With respect to the "Pentax already has a digital 35mm slr" - is this true ? or should it have read "If Pentax already had a digital 35mm slr". I'm curious since if the former is true, then you obviously know something that the rest of the world don't :-) Cheers, Dave mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
Re: Pentax WILL (most likely) show a digital SLR at Photokina!
Rob wrote: > There was talk that the 645nii has power outlet sockets for a digital > insert on luminous landscape. Has anyone confirmed this? Pål? It's the contact for the remote releases. Pål
Re: Pentax WILL (most likely) show a digital SLR at Photokina!
Jostein wrote: > Today I browsed through the websites of 3rd party makers of > digital backs. What really struck me was that Pentax is the _only_ > MedF brand they don't deliver for. If they can make solutions for > Contax or Bronica, why not for Pentax? Most likely because they don't want them to! Pentax is the only major manufacturer who bothers with medium format. The others are incapable of making their own digital solutions. Pentax is perfectly able to do it themselves if they want to. But I cannot imagine why they would want to. Pål
Re: Pentax WILL (most likely) show a digital SLR at Photokina!
David wrote: > Now we look at Pentax - Great 67, decent 645, and lots of support from a > lot of users out thereBUT no interchangeability. Only inserts. > While it probably could be done, it would have to be done with Pentax's > blessing and with their help. Pentax engineers would have to get involved, > perhaps more work than a "standard" interchangeable back ? Then we look at > the fact that any digital insert that would be made could ONLY be used > within the Pentax system and would be totally useless if the 3rd party > tried to adapt it to Bronica/Mamiya/Blad. The 645 has interchangeable backs. It's just that you can't change film mid-roll without fogging the film, something that hasn't the foggiest impact on a digital back. It can easily be done. However, a more awkward technical solution than a digital back cannot be imagined. If they make one, it's only a preliminary solution. Pentax already has a digital 35mm slr. All they need to do is increase film-mount distance with approximately 1,5 cm's. Increase the size of the prism and mirror. Mount a 645 lens mount and a bigger CCD and the're all set. The same could be done for the 67 system. The 645's design is wholly dictated by the fact that the film run up-down. Without this limitation, and without a large film transport, a 645 digfital slr could be made at the same size as a Nikon F100 and look similar. Pål
Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V02 #40
On Thu, 5 Sep 2002 16:58:23 +0200, Feroze Kistan wrote: > One question for MZS owners, what is the battery life on the > camera, I have a Z70 & an K1000 (my grandfathers) and well I > get about 20 36 rolls fore I have to make the battery man rich I haven't had mine long enough to kill a set of batteries. On my ZX-5, a pair of lithium batteries would last about 30 rolls of 36 exposures each, since I rarely use the built-in flash. On the ZX-5 with Battery Grip Fg, a quartet of AA batteries would get 100 to 120 rolls of 36 exposures each. I expect similar performance from the MZ-S, but I almost always use the BG-10, so it should be a while before I need to replace the AA's. :-) TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
RE: WARNING: U.S. Postal Service Ripoff
On the whole, looking at the past twenty years (about as long as I've really been paying attention), USPS seems to mostly get things right. On the other hand, a few particular post offices reek, it's possible to get stuck with a bad mailman, and there are glitches here and there in the system. Since moving to Baltimore I've had no end of trouble getting packages delivered to my house by USPS. A few come on the first try; once in a while I'll be out and they'll leave a little pink slip, I'll request redelivery, and get my package on the second try; more often they don't bother to try to deliver the package at all -- just leave the "sorry we missed you" slip without ever ringing my doorbell, then ignore the redelivery request hanging out of my mail slot for the next few days, and it takes phone calls and shouting to get the package ever delivered -- there are some lazy gits working in my local post office, and the postmaster won't do anything about it. (But once one of the carriers who does seem to care about doing her job went out of her way to get me a package that the carrier on my route the previous day had been too lazy to deliver.) Recently they didn't even bother to leave the little pink "sorry we missed you" slips on three alleged attempts to deliver the Pentax posters! I've had friends complain about stuff like that in the past, and worse -- such problems tend to be very localized: one office, or one _route_. Other glitches are harder to explain: having my paycheck mailed from Beltsville, MD to my credit union in Merrifield, VA takes anywhere from ten days to four weeks. Having it mailed to me in Baltimore takes two or three days, and mailing it from Baltimore to Merrifield takes three days. Je ne comprend pas. But _on_the_whole_ the USPS does a pretty impressive job. -- Glenn
Re: Flash trigger voltage -- again
I have the same flash, and I haven't noticed any more drain on the camera batteries than with no flash (I use it on an ME Super and a P30T). The flash itself does tend to go through AA's pretty quickly though... NiMH cells and a charger are a good investment. I keep two sets in rotation. -Mat On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, Margo Ellen Gesser wrote: > I have a Vivitar 283. It's a great flash and balances nicely with my MZ-3 > and 28-105 lens. It does eat camera batteries, However. I have to replace my > CR-2's much more often if I use my flash continuously (the way I did last > year when we did an entire month of flash assignments) than if I use my > flash sporadically. > > Margo >
RE: Leica might (possibly) show a digital SLR at Photokina too??
Hi, On 6 Sep 2002 at 16:35, Rob Brigham wrote: > "I have been hearing some rumors about leica having a new dSLR which > will be showed for the 1st time in photokina. Hmmm, an R8 digital... I hope it would be far too expensive to even think about it for me, or I might become faithless to my LX... Gabor
Re: What to do when someone steals your images for ebay
At 11:21 AM 9/6/2002 -0400, you wrote: >"David P. Chernicoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Hopefully the idiot who posted the auction hasn't noticed yet, > > > >http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2050970860 > >He's noticed but he can't change his listing because he's already received a >bid. He claims to have apologised (have you received any mail from him?) >and has >added a photo of his own. Pictures belong to a friend of mine. I would have been far less subtle (in fact, I have), but when people have stolen my images for ebay, they've usually had the brains to download them and repost them elsewhere before using them. David<
RE: Leica might (possibly) show a digital SLR at Photokina too??
Rumours for the opposition too: "I have been hearing some rumors about leica having a new dSLR which will be showed for the 1st time in photokina. Is anyone knows some thing about this? "
RE: Pentax WILL (most likely) show a digital SLR at Photokina!
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > And probably fixed ISO too? < see one of the most recent two Shutterbug magazines. i think variable ISO. i'm not yet a MF guy. may become one in a few years, but not yet. Herb
Re: Flash trigger voltage -- again
Quoting Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > There shoudn't be any extra battery drain when using an external flash, > since the camera uses a dry contact to trip the flash. > You may have have a defective camera. No, the manula clearly sates that there is more battery drain with an external flash M. > > Jeff > > > > > > I have a Vivitar 283. It's a great flash and balances nicely with my MZ-3 > > and 28-105 lens. It does eat camera batteries, However. I have to replace > my > > CR-2's much more often if I use my flash continuously (the way I did last > > year when we did an entire month of flash assignments) than if I use my > > flash sporadically. > > > > Margo > > > - This mail sent through Chebucto Community Net http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/
Re: Pentax WILL (most likely) show a digital SLR at Photokina!
>From Pål >- but they will show a product or products in products segment(s) they have previously not been present in. > They would be also new in IS and USM Regards Rüdiger
Re: What to do when someone steals your images for ebay
"David P. Chernicoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hopefully the idiot who posted the auction hasn't noticed yet, > >http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2050970860 He's noticed but he can't change his listing because he's already received a bid. He claims to have apologised (have you received any mail from him?) and has added a photo of his own. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com
Digital backs, medium format and more (was: Pentax WILL (most likely) show a digital SLR at Photokina!)
Hi friends, Here below you'll find the text on an article by me, published in Spotmatic magazine No.33, about new developments by Pentax. Is it of any interest to the current discussion about Photokina stuff? Bye, Dario Bonazza http://www.dariobonazza.com Pentax patents: possible preview of new technology developments By Dario Bonazza Some Pentax patents could give us some ideas about new developments to come. Some of them (numbers beginning with 2002) were posted to the internet Pentax Discuss Mailing List by Henry Chu, from Hong Kong, while others were found by me, by searching the data base engine of US Patent Office. No. 20020102105 is a photometric device (also see US 6175693). It's a metering system that works more or less like the Nikon RGB system in F5, but retaining the traditional Pentax 6-segment metering system. Other interesting patents (US 6370333, US 6393219) are for a multipoint autofocus system. No. 20020089257 is an ultrasonic-motor control system. Finally, Pentax is working on USM motor! During the years, Pentax also filed several patents about image stabilization devices (even before Canon), and more were registered lately (US 6374048, US 6389228, US 6392804, US 6415105). All of the above patents can be signs of a new generation SLR under development. There is also a patent for a new lens bayonet (US 6421192). Unfortunately I cannot understand which kind of camera it could suit. Another patent (US 6388738) deals with a rangefinder. This could be the long rumored Pentax rangefinder system, but I'll only believe it when I'll see it. No. 20020101525 is a digital image interpolating device. According to Henry Chu's description, Pentax is working on an image processing system for reducing chromatic blur in a traditional mosaic type G-R-G-B CCD sensor. Are they planning not to use the multi-layer Foveon X3 sensor for the long awaited Pentax D-SLR or is this for improving the image quality in lower class digital cameras? No. 20020097994 is a photographic lens of 118mm f/2.5 with inner focusing system. The design deals with compactness and small filter diameter. Looks like another "Limited" lens. Then, at long last, several patents are about a prism viewfinder (US 6392820) for a 645 style medium format camera with interchangeable back, for a medium format camera with interchangeable back (US 6402396) and for a camera using either film or CCD (6337955, US 6366323, US 6374060, US 6426777). It is interesting that some of these patents deal with a 35mm film camera, while others with a rollfilm camera. Summing-up, in a not so far future we can expect improvements in digital cameras, new Limited lenses, a new generation 35mm/CCD SLR system, probably introducing a new lens series, and a new medium format camera also accepting digital backs. Okay, most of these products were already rumored during the last months, and they were also expected just for common sense, but these patents are the best confirmation that all these innovations are truly under development at Pentax, not just hopes. It is likely we'll see something at Photokina next September, and something more at PMA next Spring. Looks like Pentax is working harder than during the last decade, after all.
RE: Pentax WILL (most likely) show a digital SLR at Photokina!
>From luminous landscape (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/645nii.shtml): "It has been said that because it lacks interchangeable backs, in the future the Pentax 645 won't be able to take a digital back. Nonsense. While it's unlikely that third parties will modify their digital backs to fit the Pentax's insert opening, there's no technical limitation preventing Pentax from providing a digital insert if they so wished. (In fact I believe that the reason for the NII upgrade was primarily to provide the needed electronic shutter release connections for the digital back, which Pentax has indeed now done. Time will tell.)" > -Original Message- > From: Rob Brigham > Sent: 06 September 2002 15:22 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Pentax WILL (most likely) show a digital SLR at > Photokina! > > > There was talk that the 645nii has power outlet sockets for a > digital insert on luminous landscape. Has anyone confirmed > this? Pål? > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: 06 September 2002 15:24 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Pentax WILL (most likely) show a digital SLR at > > Photokina! > > > > > > > > > > On another sidenote, Pentax 645/67 is _the_ MedF SLR for serious > > field work because of compactness and ruggedness. A digital > > solution will have to live up to that. > > > > Power consumption could be an issue too, and external storage > > media, with the need for prolonged stays away from electric power > > sockets. > > > > Jostein. > > > > > >
RE: Pentax WILL (most likely) show a digital SLR at Photokina!
And probably fixed ISO too? > -Original Message- > From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 06 September 2002 16:13 > To: INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Pentax WILL (most likely) show a digital SLR at > Photokina! > > > Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >That's quite reasonable actually. Most if not all the MF > digital backs > are tied to a PC too I believe. > < > > the most recent Kodak one isn't. don't know about battery > life though. also, a mere $12K list. > > Herb... > >
RE: Pentax WILL (most likely) show a digital SLR at Photokina!
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >That's quite reasonable actually. Most if not all the MF digital backs are tied to a PC too I believe. < the most recent Kodak one isn't. don't know about battery life though. also, a mere $12K list. Herb...
OT: Color Calibration Question
>Thw question is : How do I effectively match color on screen with color on paper?< the question is 1/3 solved already. your printer comes with color profiles that you should use to start with. they are designed for the majority of inks and paper combinations made by Epson. your calibration requirements are to calibrate your scanner and monitor until you are getting consistent results from an arbitrary scan through to printed output. until then, stick with Epson's color profiles. you need to pick an RGB working profile for your work. this profile is what all your input gets converted into and what you keep files in. sRGB is standard but lowest in color gamut of the common profiles. Adobe RGB is wider in gamut but is commonly perceived as being flat and less contrasty. there are other ones out there, but until you learn the differences between them, pick one. for output to inkjet printers, there are advantages to using sRGB for a while, but it may mean that if you decide you want another one, you may have to convert ones done using sRGB the next time you work on them or to rescan, depending on how important the loss of gamut is to you. you need to know the color profiles of your scanners. 3rd party scanned files should contain their internal color profiles embedded in the TIFF, JPEG, or Photoshop file. you need a copy of that profile on your computer so that color-aware applications (Photoshop) can use it. if your scanning service bureau can't provide you images with embedded profiles, you will have to be prepared to adjust each image you receive to get good color. if you yourself are scanning negatives, the color profile isn't nearly as important as you have to manipulate the scans so much to get good positives. (subtracting the orange mask, inverting, and then contrast enhancement do a lot of things). if you are scanning positives, a good color profile is crucial. you will need to create a color profile for each film/scanner/filter combination you use. setting up your monitor to display colors accurately also requires a color profile generated for your specific monitor, although if you are fussy enough to care, you will buy a monitor with vendor supplied color profiles as a starting point. no generic monitors here, only top notch brands and upper part of their product lines. whether you get a color profile from the vendor or not, you will want to get a color calibration device and software for calibrating the monitor and the scanner. you have to use software that does color management. for all intents and purposes, that means you use PhotoShop, although Corel PhotoPaint is a well known alternative. you have to set up its color management so that it matches what how you want your images to appear when it has to convert color profiles to and from your working profile. when you are ready to, you will need to use your calibrated scanner to scan printouts of special color targets and create your own color profiles for ink/paper combinations that you use. this may mean doing a lot of printouts on expensive paper and possibly with expensive ink. oh, and BTW, if you do more than a small amount of image manipulation, be prepared to have to work in 16-bit/channel mode in Photoshop. this doubles the size of your files and they can't be saved as JPEGs until you are finished all your manipulations and convert back to 8-bit/channel mode. i don't know if your scanner outputs more than 8-bit/channel, but if it doesn't, you should serious consider getting one that does a lot more. Herb...
Re: What to do when someone steals your images for ebay
Liked the "carefully packed" part :) Mishka -Original Message- From: "David P. Chernicoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 10:50:27 -0400 Subject: What to do when someone steals your images for ebay > > Hopefully the idiot who posted the auction hasn't noticed yet, > > http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2050970860 > > > > >
Flatbed scanners for 35mm
IMHO - I gotta put in my vote for an inexpensive film scanner over any sort of flatbed. I have an HP S20xi for 35mm and an HP 7400c with trans adapter for medium format. The S20 simply works better/faster. It's worth the extra $200 over the Epson flatbed. Get a cheap flatbed to scan larger prints. Scanning most any print at over 600 dpi is pretty much a waste of bandwidth. The S20 does a fine job scanning any print up to 5x7at 300dpi. I need a Polaroid 120 for medium format and I'll be set. Between flatness issues, newton rings, fingerprints, and dust, scanning film on a flatbed is about as fun as dental work (these are still issues with film scanners, just less so.) Just my .02... Regards, Chris L. School Publications Guy
Re: Pentax WILL (most likely) show a digital SLR at Photokina!
Mark wrote: > I am expecting an announcement of a digital SLR but no prototype but who knows? Again, this is possible. Something is going to be shown and the expectations are high. It was assumed to be a digital slr. Anyway, if Pentax do not release a digital slr now, I for one expect an announcement about the digital slr's further development. Pål
Re: What to do when someone steals your images for ebay
AtA BOY Dave Begin Original Message From: "David P. Chernicoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 10:50:27 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: What to do when someone steals your images for ebay Hopefully the idiot who posted the auction hasn't noticed yet, http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2050970860 End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
What to do when someone steals your images for ebay
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RE: Pentax WILL (most likely) show a digital SLR at Photokina!
That's quite reasonable actually. Most if not all the MF digital backs are tied to a PC too I believe. > -Original Message- > From: Peter Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 06 September 2002 15:45 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Pentax WILL (most likely) show a digital SLR at > Photokina! > > > I think that it might be a different problem. Digital backs > are of real use in the studio. From what I know of them they > use a lot of processing power and a lot of electrical power. > Pentax produces what have been acknowledged as field cameras. > Maybe film still rules in the field with MF. Possibly 3rd > party manufactures won't expend large amounts of capital > creating a product few would buy? > > At 10:25 AM 9/6/2002 -0400, you wrote: > > -Original Message- > > > From: Rob Brigham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 3rd party manufacturers can either > > > > purchase a Mamiya/Bronica/Hassy back and spec it out themselves > > > > (and without, if necessary, any input from > Bronica/Mamiya/Blad). > > > > The 3rd party manufacturers may only need to adjust the > housing or > > > > casing after they've developed the "innards" and > thereby make the > > > > digital back be compatible across the "big 3" (maybe > Rollei too ?) > > > > > > > > Now we look at Pentax - Great 67, decent 645, and lots > of support > > > > from a lot of users out thereBUT no > > > > interchangeability. Only inserts. While it probably could be > > > > done, it would have to be done with Pentax's blessing and with > > > > their help. Pentax engineers would have to get > involved, perhaps > > > > more work than a "standard" interchangeable back ? > > > > > > I don't see why they would not need engineer input to make a back > > > compatible for one 645 system and not for another? Its > as easy to > > > backwards engineer an insert as it is to backwards > engineer a back. > > > OK, the 67 is a different matter. > > > > > >I would think it would be easier to engineer an insert. The > >interchangeable backs are more complicated pieces of engineering. > > > > > > > > > Could it be done ? Sure.. why not.. Will it be done by a 3rd > > > > party ? I personally don't think so... Will it be done > at all? > > > > Perhaps.. but it's got to be done by Pentax themselves I would > > > > think. > > > > > > I too have no idea if it will be done, and I suspect a different > > > body may be more likely. > > > >I think Pentax will release an insert within a couple of years. > > > >tv > >
RE: Pentax WILL (most likely) show a digital SLR at Photokina!
I think that it might be a different problem. Digital backs are of real use in the studio. From what I know of them they use a lot of processing power and a lot of electrical power. Pentax produces what have been acknowledged as field cameras. Maybe film still rules in the field with MF. Possibly 3rd party manufactures won't expend large amounts of capital creating a product few would buy? At 10:25 AM 9/6/2002 -0400, you wrote: > -Original Message- > > From: Rob Brigham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > > > The 3rd party manufacturers can either > > > purchase a Mamiya/Bronica/Hassy back and spec it out > > > themselves (and without, if necessary, any input from > > > Bronica/Mamiya/Blad). The 3rd party manufacturers may only > > > need to adjust the housing or casing after they've developed > > > the "innards" and thereby make the digital back be compatible > > > across the "big 3" (maybe Rollei too ?) > > > > > > Now we look at Pentax - Great 67, decent 645, and lots of > > > support from a lot of users out thereBUT no > > > interchangeability. Only inserts. While it probably could be > > > done, it would have to be done with Pentax's blessing and > > > with their help. Pentax engineers would have to get > > > involved, perhaps more work than a "standard" interchangeable > > > back ? > > > > I don't see why they would not need engineer input to make a back > > compatible for one 645 system and not for another? Its as easy to > > backwards engineer an insert as it is to backwards engineer > > a back. OK, > > the 67 is a different matter. > > >I would think it would be easier to engineer an insert. The >interchangeable backs are more complicated pieces of engineering. > > > > > > Could it be done ? Sure.. why not.. Will it be done by a 3rd > > > party ? I personally don't think so... Will it be done at > > > all? Perhaps.. but it's got to be done by Pentax themselves > > > I would think. > > > > I too have no idea if it will be done, and I suspect a > > different body > > may be more likely. > >I think Pentax will release an insert within a couple of years. > >tv
RE: Pentax WILL (most likely) show a digital SLR at Photokina!
There was talk that the 645nii has power outlet sockets for a digital insert on luminous landscape. Has anyone confirmed this? Pål? > -Original Message- > From: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 06 September 2002 15:24 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Pentax WILL (most likely) show a digital SLR at > Photokina! > > > > > On another sidenote, Pentax 645/67 is _the_ MedF SLR for serious > field work because of compactness and ruggedness. A digital > solution will have to live up to that. > > Power consumption could be an issue too, and external storage > media, with the need for prolonged stays away from electric power > sockets. > > Jostein. > >
Re: OT: Blue Crush
Actually from almost any viewpoint this is the surfing movie. Blue crush is more or less eye candy. At 01:46 PM 8/31/2002 -0500, you wrote: >At 11:25 AM 8/31/2002 -0400, you wrote: >>Last weekend, I saw the movie Blue Crush. It's all about women surfers. The > >Another excellent surfer movie is "The Endless Summer." It follows two >surfers as they travel around the world. Again, the cinematography is >excellent. It's an older flick (1966) and shows up occasionally on AMC. > > > >Gary J. Sibio [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >On the sixth day God created the platypus and said, "Let's see the >evolutionists explain this one."
Re: Re: Epson 2450
Jeff. Sounds like a better way to go than Greytech. Dave(hoping to have computer all to him self tonight and scan)Brooks Begin Original Message From: "Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 20:38:18 -0400 To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Epson 2450 > For those who care, I was able to find it at samsclub.com for the > price of $299.95! > > > Bruce > NO WAY! I'm moving to the US. On the other hand, I can get my brother to bring me one in November, when he comes to visit. Jeff. End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
RE: new digital SLR
That would at least cause me some joy... and stop the anguish of getting rid of some BEAUTIFUL equipment :) Cheers, Dave -Original Message- From: Rob Brigham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 6:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: new digital SLR Or even just mentioned in passing to confirm there is still some life to the project would be something! > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 06 September 2002 11:10 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: new digital SLR > > > > > << Personally, I expect the new digital SLR to be *announced* > at Photokina > but not > shown until PMA early next year. >> > or announced at Photokina, shown at PMA, and made > available to purchase > October 2003. How 'bout it? > > Peter > >
Re: Flash trigger voltage -- again
This topic resurfaced recently on the Nikon MF digest . I believe both Paramount and Bob Monaghan have interesting reading. The safe voltage for Canon appears to be 6v! Kind regards Peter
RE: Pentax WILL (most likely) show a digital SLR at Photokina!
Of course a product segment they are not currently present is is the 'top level pro SLR' - maybe the flagship will be there too!!! Oh, and the C-SLR and BS-SLR would be new segments... We live in hope. Thanks for the encouragement. > -Original Message- > From: Pål Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 06 September 2002 12:15 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Pentax WILL (most likely) show a digital SLR at Photokina! > > > According to inside information great news are expected at > Photokina. Pentax is holding the cards closely, but they will > show a product or products in products segment(s) they have > previously not been present in. It is believed that this is > digital slr(s). Of course it could be scanners (or scanners > and digital slr's). Anyway, the message was that this years > Photokina was going to be a major event for Pentax. The usual > disclaimers apply! > > Pål > > >
Pentax WILL (most likely) show a digital SLR at Photokina!
According to inside information great news are expected at Photokina. Pentax is holding the cards closely, but they will show a product or products in products segment(s) they have previously not been present in. It is believed that this is digital slr(s). Of course it could be scanners (or scanners and digital slr's). Anyway, the message was that this years Photokina was going to be a major event for Pentax. The usual disclaimers apply! Pål
Re: New Pentax speculation
My motor drive A's only do 3.5 fps. Are you powering them with super batteries? The LX motor drive is a bit faster. Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << My Motor Drive A for the Super A/Super Program does 5 fps in "high" as well. >>
Re: OT: Printing with the Epson 1280
"J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Sounds like I'll stick with epson. I just >bought a pack at Walmart for $15 and it >sure beats the hell out of any of the other >"premium" papers by the Kodak, HP etc. > >Is there an online or mail order shop that >sells the epson paper at a good price? >I'd like to buy 100 sheet boxes of the stuff. I like www.inkjetgoodies.com and www.inkjetart.com/index.html -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com
Re: WARNING: U.S. Postal Service Ripoff
Mostly good experience with USPS here. But they did once take over 5 WEEKS to get a "Priority Mail" package to me from Seattle. I recall hearing about someone else (a PDML'er, I think) who received a Priority Mail package that spent 8-10 months on its way to him and contained a lens that had become damaged, apparently after spending a good part of those months passing through x-ray or irrafiation equipment. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com
Re: New Pentax speculation
<< What bodies are faster? >What is the fastest PENTAX for spooling off 24/36 frames? LX with motor drive would still be the fastest by one fps (5 fps vs. z-1p 4 fps). I think the MX motor drive produced about the same frame rate, however I have never owned one so I couldn't be sure. >> Purely as a matter of interest, does anyone think that locking the mirror up might produce a faster framing rate, or less stress in the body? Personally I am not a big fan of fast drives - a fast response to my finger would be appreciated. Peter
RE: new digital SLR
Or even just mentioned in passing to confirm there is still some life to the project would be something! > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 06 September 2002 11:10 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: new digital SLR > > > > > << Personally, I expect the new digital SLR to be *announced* > at Photokina > but not > shown until PMA early next year. >> > or announced at Photokina, shown at PMA, and made > available to purchase > October 2003. How 'bout it? > > Peter > >
Re: New Pentax speculation
<< You're absolutely correct Margo. It's just that some people are more interested in the image they project rather than the images they take. >> There's that superbrand affiliation thing popping up again. Basking in reflected glory & so on. Peter
Re: new digital SLR
<< Personally, I expect the new digital SLR to be *announced* at Photokina but not shown until PMA early next year. >> or announced at Photokina, shown at PMA, and made available to purchase October 2003. How 'bout it? Peter
Optio 230: first impression
In my website (link below), you'll find my article about the Optio 230, published in Spotmatic magazine. Cheers Dario Bonazza http://www.dariobonazza.com
Re: WARNING: U.S. Postal Service Ripoff
I'm very pleased with Priority (USPS) service. The packaging they provide is also a big plus for my requirements. I send four or five Priority packages a week. Can't remember any real problem(s), except for items sent to one of my associates in another state who quite frequently receives out-of-state sourced Priority packages late. Have no idea why. We just work around it. Where delivery is critical, I always use Express with USPS, or the appropriate premium service at Fed Ex/UPS -- only remember one late arrival in about 10 years using these services --- probably were more --- my memory ain't what it used to be ;-). Otis Fred wrote: > > Not to malign UPS, but the USPS has done much better by me. > > 2-3 days via USPS Priority Mail and cheap! > > My experience with USPS Priority Mail has been outstanding. Hundreds > of shipments to and fro, and almost always within 3 days max, and > never a lost shipment. Never. > > Fred
Pentax in the movies
Have you noticed Pentax there? http://www.femmefatale.nl/ Dario Bonazza http://www.dariobonazza.com
Pentax Day report and pictures
Hi friends, Among the other things, here are the final report and pictures about the 2002 edition of the Pentax Day: http://digilander.libero.it/pentaxday/index.htm Cheers, Dario Bonazza http://www.dariobonazza.com
Re: Focus range Limiter on the FA 100 2.8 Macro - RETRY
>The limiter places an end of the focusing range a certain fixed distance >(1 meter or so, I don't remember). If you're south of that it work as an >upper limit, if you're over that (when you set it) it's the lower one. > >No way to change the placement in the focusing range. > >I hope I'm not wrong. It's 0.6m I think, just pass the 0.7 marking a bit. regards, Alan Chan _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
Re: Flatbed scanners for 35mm
- Original Message - From: "TM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 12:47 AM Subject: Flatbed scanners for 35mm > Anyone here use a flatbed other than the Epson 2450 > for 35mm negatives? > > I recently got a Canon 1250U2F which has a 35mm adapter > and found that the scans are rather "soft" even at 2400 > dpi and they definitely don't appear acceptable for printing, > unlike the digital photos I've downloaded from my digital camera, > even at 2MP. Since my primefilm died again, I've switched to an epson perfection 1250 with the film adapter. It works for now, until I come up with the money for another dedicated film scanner (this time one with a SANE interface)... my 0.02 Mike Y
RE: New 120 Digital sensor - not Pentax but a step in the right direction from Kodak...
maybe the Pentax 67D isnt that far off after all JCO > -Original Message- > From: Rob Brigham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 4:30 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: New 120 Digital sensor - not Pentax but a step in the right > direction from Kodak... > > > From DPReview: > > Sinar has today announced the development of a digital back (for medium > format cameras) with an amazing 1-shot resolution of 22 million pixels. > Even more interesting is that the sensor used by the camera is the Kodak > KAF-22000CE CCD sensor which has a pixel area of 4080 x 5440 and > measures 38.8 x 50.0 mm (1.5 x 2.0 in). This is a huge sensor with a > huge pixel count and according to Sinar "This makes this sensor suitable > for applications as a digital replacement of film in modern 645 medium > format camera systems, without the need for significant changes in focal > lengths." > > http://www.sinar.ch/press/release/PMKAF-22000-e.pdf > > > ME: Wow, looks like sensor sizes really are on the increase. No mention > of angle of incidence problems by going full frame here. Wouldn't one > of these in a 645Nii be rather nice? >
RE: New 120 Digital sensor - not Pentax but a step in the right direction from Kodak...
It will probably hit the market somewhere in the vicinity of $30 grand too. I have seen other digital backs going for $25k. Cheers Shaun Canning PhD Student Department of Archaeology School of European and Historical Studies La Trobe University, Bundoora, Vic, 3086. Phone: 0414-967644 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Rob Brigham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 6 September 2002 6:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New 120 Digital sensor - not Pentax but a step in the right direction from Kodak... >From DPReview: Sinar has today announced the development of a digital back (for medium format cameras) with an amazing 1-shot resolution of 22 million pixels. Even more interesting is that the sensor used by the camera is the Kodak KAF-22000CE CCD sensor which has a pixel area of 4080 x 5440 and measures 38.8 x 50.0 mm (1.5 x 2.0 in). This is a huge sensor with a huge pixel count and according to Sinar "This makes this sensor suitable for applications as a digital replacement of film in modern 645 medium format camera systems, without the need for significant changes in focal lengths." http://www.sinar.ch/press/release/PMKAF-22000-e.pdf ME: Wow, looks like sensor sizes really are on the increase. No mention of angle of incidence problems by going full frame here. Wouldn't one of these in a 645Nii be rather nice?
RE: Flash trigger voltage -- again
Using non dedicated Unomat b24auto with my MZ-M for first half year there where no problems, but then, shutter start to behave weirdly. After talking with the serviceman, I changed the flash to Pentax one (201) and the problem goes away. Ed > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Subject: Flash trigger voltage -- again > > This topic came up before but it didn't answer my own > question. I have a ME-Super, PZ-10, and a ZX-M. If I get a > small non-dedicated flash from Metz, Vivitar or Sunpak, will > the unit possibly fry my newer cameras (PZ-10 & ZX-M)? Has > anyone had problems using non-Pentax flashes? > > Thanks for your help. > > Ray
New 120 Digital sensor - not Pentax but a step in the right direction from Kodak...
>From DPReview: Sinar has today announced the development of a digital back (for medium format cameras) with an amazing 1-shot resolution of 22 million pixels. Even more interesting is that the sensor used by the camera is the Kodak KAF-22000CE CCD sensor which has a pixel area of 4080 x 5440 and measures 38.8 x 50.0 mm (1.5 x 2.0 in). This is a huge sensor with a huge pixel count and according to Sinar "This makes this sensor suitable for applications as a digital replacement of film in modern 645 medium format camera systems, without the need for significant changes in focal lengths." http://www.sinar.ch/press/release/PMKAF-22000-e.pdf ME: Wow, looks like sensor sizes really are on the increase. No mention of angle of incidence problems by going full frame here. Wouldn't one of these in a 645Nii be rather nice?
RE: Digital vs.FILM: will digital cameras lose the war?
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Re: Focus range Limiter on the FA 100 2.8 Macro - RETRY
The limiter places an end of the focusing range a certain fixed distance (1 meter or so, I don't remember). If you're south of that it work as an upper limit, if you're over that (when you set it) it's the lower one. No way to change the placement in the focusing range. I hope I'm not wrong. Ciao, Flavio
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Hi, For those interested (and able to use it - deliveries to the UK only) this e-tailer now has Technical Pan and HIE in stock. mike
RE: pentax-discuss-d Digest V02 #40
If you dont mind using a bellows the same lens came in a bellows mount too. But it's a preset... You might want to get a 50mm MACRO too for the larger items. The 100mm angle of view is too narrow for some shots. I've gotten great results with the SMCT 50mm F4. Dont know if any of the K lenses use the same design... JCO > -Original Message- > From: David A. Mann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 3:15 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V02 #40 > > > Feroze Kistan wrote: > > > Any advice on a good 100mm Macro would be > > greatly appreciated. I have to shoot anything from jwellery to > cell phones > > to groceries. > > The Pentax 100mm f/4 macros are lovely little lenses which are very > reasonably priced if you can find one. They go 1:2. All the 100mm f/4's > use the same optical formula, from the screwmount ones to the A-series. > They are very nice lenses and are built like tanks. > > There's also the FA100mm f/2.8 macro if you want 1:1 without adaptors, > and/or the faster aperture. The F-version has the same optics but some > small mechanical differences. I bought the FA lens as soon as I found > one secondhand as the screwmount one was a pain to use on my K-mount > bodies with the adaptor. > > Others have mentioned various 3rd-party macro lenses but I can't comment > on those as I've never used them! From what I've heard I think you'd be > hard-pressed to find a bad macro lens (true macro, that is). > > Because your subjects are going to be still there's probably not a lot of > point in looking specifically for an autofocus macro. > > Cheers, > > > - Dave > > http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ (out of date) > >
RE: OT: Printing with the Epson 1280
Sounds like I'll stick with epson. I just bought a pack at Walmart for $15 and it sure beats the hell out of any of the other "premium" papers by the Kodak, HP etc. Is there an online or mail order shop that sells the epson paper at a good price? I'd like to buy 100 sheet boxes of the stuff. JCO > -Original Message- > From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 11:21 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: OT: Printing with the Epson 1280 > > > The only paper I've found that produces results better than or equal to > Epson is Ilford Fine Art, a water color style paper. Other Ilford sheets > that I've tried on my 1200,including most of the Galleries, are not the > equal of the Epson papers. > Paul > > "J. C. O'Connell" wrote: > > > > So far I've found the Epson papers > > are far and away the best when printing > > with the 1280. > > > > I've tried Kodak, HP, Officemax and > > they all suck (magenta blacks after drying) > > > > Are there any other brands other than > > Epson which give as good results??? > > > > Epson seems a little pricy and it's often > > out of stock in my hunts. > > > > JCO >
RE: Shooting Sunrises/sunsets
> -Original Message- > From: David A. Mann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 3:15 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Shooting Sunrises/sunsets > > > Bill D. Casselberry wrote: > > > 1200mm is my favorite available focal length for this > > sort of thing. I had two 2x'ers on a 300mm f4 once and > > did this again. > > Peter, have you sold that 1000mm yet? :) > > Oh boy, 4000mm f/32... > > cheers, > > > - Dave Dont know about Peter, But I did sell my SMC-K 1000mm F8 last week to a guy in Germany. You PDMLers without one missed the boat. It sold for only $910 which is actually pretty cheap for a lens of that focal length and quality. Sure beats a 300mm with 2 2Xers stuck on it. I kept the 1000mm Tele-Takumar version for myself of course! JCO
