Re: Pics of modified F*300mm f/4.5

2002-11-18 Thread David A. Mann
Fred wrote:

> Thanks for the photos, Dave.  That does seem like an interesting
> modification.  [Suggestion: one photo from the side would be helpful
> - .]

Yeah I thought that as I was putting them online.  I'll try to remember 
to take the lens to work tomorrow and grab another pic or two.

>  The final result is similar to the proportions of the A*
> 200/4 Macro's tidy little tripod mount.

Looking at what the F* 300mm is supposed to look like, I wonder how it 
could be comfortably handheld or even carried in a camera bag.  The 
tripod mount is monstrous.  Maybe the FA* version isn't so bad after all, 
guys :)

Cheers,

- Dave

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/





Tokina ATX PRO 80-200 or Sigma EX 70-200?

2002-11-18 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Hi,
I know, I know - I am boring. But I am hesitating between buying
Tokina ATX-PRO 80-200/2.8 and Sigma EX 70-200/2.8. I know they are
both very good optical performers. But can anybody tell me something
about their mechanics? I am especially interested in AF speed, as I've
heard that Tokina is slow in this respect. Any experiences or
comparisons to "consumer" zooms like SMC-FA 70-200/4-5.6? Or maybe
someone has an occasion to compare directly Sigma and Tokina? TIA!!!

Regards
Sylwek






Re: Anybody else enjoyed the Leonids?

2002-11-18 Thread Jostein
Bugger. I lost the fun. :-(
Had a long combat with the alarm clock... -and won... -in a way...
Jostein
- Original Message -
From: "Alin Flaider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 8:04 AM
Subject: Anybody else enjoyed the Leonids?


>
>   Hi everybody,
>
>   Just got back from the hills, chilled and in big need of a hot
>   tea to warm up my fingers enough to be able to type.
>   This is my very first meteor storm and I must say it deserved its
>   name. At its peak I could count more than five bright flashes per
>   minute, and this is in a fairly populated area, with lot of
residual
>   light. Fortunately, the air was transparent, with just a bit of
>   haze above the city that scattered right before the storm apogee.
>
>   I drove on top of a hill near the outskirts where I could have a
>   large view over the town, southwards. The full moon setting over
the
>   town in the haze was too blinding so it forced me to pick a
marginal
>   subject at the beginning, somehow dull - so I started shooting
with
>   Ilford XP2 Super. Then, right after the apogee, the thin haze
>   dissipated, the view towards the town opened, so I switched to
>   Provia 100 F for the more colourful cityscape. Green meteors
>   were glimpsing right over the city horizon. I took all the
pictures
>   at 28 mm - the largest wideangle I possess :o( - at f/8 and speeds
>   ranging from 15 to 30 seconds. Shutter on B, was counting while
>   staring at the sky (if I ever get that MZ-S, I'll take the
>   intervalometer too). Yes I'm aware I risked some star trails but I
>   wanted to improve my chances of capturing the meteor trails. Not
>   that I was very lucky - it seemed that everything interesting
>   happened elsewhere in the sky but still, of the 80 pictures, I
>   reckon I got at least seven clear meteors traces, of which a
couple
>   with multiple trails. Just before the moon touched down behind the
>   town lights I switched to 135 mm and tried a tight framing - was
it
>   just my imagination or I did got a scintillation in the frame?
>
>   Anyway, I can't wait to see the pictures. This time I take my
>   transparencies to the lab. God be merciful with them if they screw
>   it up...
>
>   Servus,   Alin
>
>
>
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Re: Anybody else enjoyed the Leonids?

2002-11-18 Thread Michel Adam
Currently cloudy and light snow in Yellowknifeat 00:15. No wind and -8C.

Tho get clear skies we would need a good -20C

I'll try at 3:00, but no great hope.

Michel
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message -
From: "Alin Flaider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, 19 November, 2002 0:04
Subject: Anybody else enjoyed the Leonids?


>
>   Hi everybody,
>
>   Just got back from the hills, chilled and in big need of a hot
>   tea to warm up my fingers enough to be able to type.
>   This is my very first meteor storm and I must say it deserved its
>   name. At its peak I could count more than five bright flashes per
>   minute, and this is in a fairly populated area, with lot of residual
>   light. Fortunately, the air was transparent, with just a bit of
>   haze above the city that scattered right before the storm apogee.
>
>   I drove on top of a hill near the outskirts where I could have a
>   large view over the town, southwards. The full moon setting over the
>   town in the haze was too blinding so it forced me to pick a marginal
>   subject at the beginning, somehow dull - so I started shooting with
>   Ilford XP2 Super. Then, right after the apogee, the thin haze
>   dissipated, the view towards the town opened, so I switched to
>   Provia 100 F for the more colourful cityscape. Green meteors
>   were glimpsing right over the city horizon. I took all the pictures
>   at 28 mm - the largest wideangle I possess :o( - at f/8 and speeds
>   ranging from 15 to 30 seconds. Shutter on B, was counting while
>   staring at the sky (if I ever get that MZ-S, I'll take the
>   intervalometer too). Yes I'm aware I risked some star trails but I
>   wanted to improve my chances of capturing the meteor trails. Not
>   that I was very lucky - it seemed that everything interesting
>   happened elsewhere in the sky but still, of the 80 pictures, I
>   reckon I got at least seven clear meteors traces, of which a couple
>   with multiple trails. Just before the moon touched down behind the
>   town lights I switched to 135 mm and tried a tight framing - was it
>   just my imagination or I did got a scintillation in the frame?
>
>   Anyway, I can't wait to see the pictures. This time I take my
>   transparencies to the lab. God be merciful with them if they screw
>   it up...
>
>   Servus,   Alin
>
>
>
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Anybody else enjoyed the Leonids?

2002-11-18 Thread Alin Flaider

  Hi everybody,

  Just got back from the hills, chilled and in big need of a hot
  tea to warm up my fingers enough to be able to type.
  This is my very first meteor storm and I must say it deserved its
  name. At its peak I could count more than five bright flashes per
  minute, and this is in a fairly populated area, with lot of residual
  light. Fortunately, the air was transparent, with just a bit of
  haze above the city that scattered right before the storm apogee.

  I drove on top of a hill near the outskirts where I could have a
  large view over the town, southwards. The full moon setting over the
  town in the haze was too blinding so it forced me to pick a marginal
  subject at the beginning, somehow dull - so I started shooting with
  Ilford XP2 Super. Then, right after the apogee, the thin haze
  dissipated, the view towards the town opened, so I switched to
  Provia 100 F for the more colourful cityscape. Green meteors
  were glimpsing right over the city horizon. I took all the pictures
  at 28 mm - the largest wideangle I possess :o( - at f/8 and speeds
  ranging from 15 to 30 seconds. Shutter on B, was counting while
  staring at the sky (if I ever get that MZ-S, I'll take the
  intervalometer too). Yes I'm aware I risked some star trails but I
  wanted to improve my chances of capturing the meteor trails. Not
  that I was very lucky - it seemed that everything interesting
  happened elsewhere in the sky but still, of the 80 pictures, I
  reckon I got at least seven clear meteors traces, of which a couple
  with multiple trails. Just before the moon touched down behind the
  town lights I switched to 135 mm and tried a tight framing - was it
  just my imagination or I did got a scintillation in the frame?

  Anyway, I can't wait to see the pictures. This time I take my
  transparencies to the lab. God be merciful with them if they screw
  it up...

  Servus,   Alin



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My comments on Optio 430RS

2002-11-18 Thread Michael Perham








Well I have been playing with my new toy for a couple weeks now and
overall I am pleased with my purchase. 
I particularly like the intuitive controls that seem to be a Pentax
trademark, and I like the solid feel and overall quality of this digital P&S.  Image quality is good and I really like
the skin tones it produces.

 

On the down side, the optical viewfinder seems to show only about 70% of
the image.  I guess for critical
framing, such as in macro work, I will have to use the LCD screen which shows a
true image and for everything else I can crop tight and know I am not cutting
off heads or hands etc.   My
other complaint is the camera wont auto focus in the subdued light of my living
room at night.  No problem with the
MZS, but we are comparing apples and oranges here and I think I will simply
have to manually set the focus to an appropriate distance and rely on DOF to do
the job.



Any one else have any observations on the Optio series …good or bad?

 

 Cheers, Mike.








Re: Some personal thoughts and speculations over my Pentax future...

2002-11-18 Thread Leon Altoff
On 18 Nov 2002 18:00:00 +0100, Heiko Hamann wrote:

Hi Heiko,

>>My wife has an MZ-3 and it's viewfinder is the same as (she says
>>slightly better) than the MZ5n, but I don't like the viewfinder on it.
>
>Afaik the viewfinders are identical.

This gets argued every so often.  There appears to be a very minor
difference which most people don't notice.  Someone even came up with
an actual difference in the specs once, but I forget what it was.

>>I do like the viewfinder on the MZ-S and have no problems with it
>>wearing glasses.
>
>Do you think it is more useful in dim light than that of the MZ-3/5?

I haven't used the MZ3 in really dim light, but the MZ-S is good in dim
light.

>>Too many Canons!  At work there are a lot of people who are into
>>photography and the first question most of them ask is what equipment
>>you have (It ranges from screwmount to medium format, Praktika to
>>Blads).  Once you get them past that they can actually talk good photo
>>talk with no mention of brands.
>
>The difficulty is to get them past that equipment talk...;-)

It can be, but most of us hardly ever mention brands any more even when
we do talk equipment.  And we bring in photos to discuss and critique.

>:) I will buy a BG-10 to save energy costs and as I think that it makes  
>the MZ-S mor complete.

It does.  I thought I wouldn't use the vertical grip, but I ended up
using it all the time, and have probably taken more vertical shots
because of it.

>I'm not very much in flash photography. I take most of my pictures  
>outside. If I need a flash then I'm happy not to think too much about  
>it... Maybe this will change if I have more time to deal with flash  
>photography. Until then me AF500FTZ should fit my needs.

The 500 will do most things you want except P-TTL and wireless
operation.  It should do nearly everything you want if you are only an
occassional flash user.

>Isn't the Z-1P's AF quite slow? Especially compared to that of the MZ-S?

In bright light the Z1-p is very fast, it hunts a bit in low light
which the MZ-S doesn't (unless it's very dim).  The MZ-S is fast,
though I managed to confuse it by trying to photograph my daughter as
she we spinning around in one of these wildly swinging side show rides
with the autofocus set to continuous and automatic focus point
selection - there were too many things coming in and out of the frame. 
Once I selected a single sensor it tracked her with no problems.


 Leon

http://www.bluering.org.au
http://www.bluering.org.au/leon





Re: Disaster strikes!

2002-11-18 Thread Anthony Farr
Sent this on Sunday, but it's a no-show on the list so I'm re-sending.

--
Pal,

That's a great shame to wreck such nice gear, the good news is that it
wasn't yourself getting blown away by the wind.

I wonder how intense that wind must have been, because I'm sure you
always use a robust tripod, and the gear itself isn't lightweight.

Regards,
Anthony Farr

- Original Message -
From: "Pål Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> My tripod toppled over today due to wind and along with it's three
meter fall on granite went my 645N and FA645 33-55/4.5 lens. Neither
particularly cheap. The camera body cracked open exposing the
electronics. The lens broke immediately in front of the aperture ring -
the glass is fine though. The equipment is already in the mail for  an
estimate. I fear the body is beyond repair but I have some hopes that
the lens can be saved. I was not insured :-(
>
>
> Pål
>
>




RE: Anybody else shooting the Leonids?

2002-11-18 Thread Glen O'Neal
Went out from 9:45 to 11:20 central time and did not see anything. Really
clear night and bright moon but only saw one shooting star the whole time. I
will probably get up at 4:30 and take a look. We'll see then. Good night
every one.

Glen

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Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 10:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Anybody else shooting the Leonids?


rain & clouds in Chicago,  Bob S.




Re: Is there a Pentax Future?

2002-11-18 Thread eactivist
I ended up buying a K-1000 on ebay for my photography class (8 weeks, now ended).

But initially I took a quick look at new cameras at the local camera store. Which is 
the only camera store really (rest are photo labs) in the area. It's been there 20-30 
years, and while I feel it's overly pricey, the store has a good reputation. The first 
camera he pulled out was a Pentax. I said, "Whoa, Pentax, but that must cost a lot."

Well, excuse me, when I was growing up either I heard or was under the impression that 
Pentax was the best. (Probably back during the time the K-1000 was selling a lot, but 
maybe not.) So he put it back and pulled out a Nikon. Both were more than I wanted to 
pay at that time. This is in Northern California. Anyway, the Pentax was pulled out 
first (I told him I was taking my first photography class.)

So some of the more expensive camera stores still seem to be pushing them. Or at least 
this one. For what it's worth.

Doe aka Marnie




Re: Anybody else shooting the Leonids?

2002-11-18 Thread Rfsindg
rain & clouds in Chicago,  Bob S.




Re: Grandfather Mountain (was: Re[2]: we're back)

2002-11-18 Thread Ann Sanfedele
gfen wrote:

> On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Bill Owens wrote:
> > Charlotte, NC.  And the offer of transportation from there to GFM and a bed
> > in PDML Central still stands
>
> Anyone going down from the NYC area? ;)
>
> --
> http://www.infotainment.org   <-> more fun than a poke in your eye.
> http://www.eighteenpercent.com<-> photography and portfolio.

Glen -
do you have wheels???
annsan




Re: Dust Spotting a Grainy Neg?

2002-11-18 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Dr E D F Williams wrote:

> Herb,
>
> And so, instead of having to click the mouse button repeatedly to increase
> density, you press down harder and it does the same thing? Like a spray can?
> The longer you press the more paint comes out? Okay! I get it. But is it
> definitely better? Do I have to go out and buy one?
>
> Don
>

annsan adds
  Yes - you do have to buy one! :)
the Wacom is great - much more precise movement than a mouse click and easier on

the hands.  You can use your mousie on the wacom pad too, of course.  Great to
have
a cordless mouse.

I have a et-0051-u  it cost about $99 I think - maybe less.  It's the best thing
since sliced bread :)

ann




Re: Pentax ad on TV

2002-11-18 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: wendy beard
Subject: Re: Pentax ad on TV


> Wouldn't win any prizes for snappy advertising, but sure beats
the
> interminable ads for "The Shirley Temple Video Collection" and
Bobby
> Vinton's Greatest Hits on two CDs or cassettes (rush orders
available)

Watch it. Bobby Vinton is somewhat of a legend in these parts.

William Robb




Re: Pentax ad on TV

2002-11-18 Thread wendy beard
At 08:57 PM 18/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:


> Twice in the last two days I've seen an ad on CTV Newsnet (Canadian news
> channel) for the Optio 430.  Interestingly, the voiceover only says "Optio
> 430" once, but refers several times to "superior Pentax optics for better
> images".  Has anyone else seen this ad?
>
> Pat White


It's just been playing on BBC Canada. Stunning ad (not). Shows the MZ-6 as 
well.

Reminds me of the "Visit the Taj Mahal for Fine Indian Cuisine, around the 
corner from this Cinema" type ads that used to run before the main feature 
in Pearl & Dean days of my youth. Advertising on a budget, I think it's called.

Wouldn't win any prizes for snappy advertising, but sure beats the 
interminable ads for "The Shirley Temple Video Collection" and Bobby 
Vinton's Greatest Hits on two CDs or cassettes (rush orders available)

Wendy Beard,
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.beard-redfern.com




RE: Is there a Pentax Future?

2002-11-18 Thread Shaun Canning
Not to mention the gazillions of dollars that the K and M series camera's
made all those years ago

Shaun Canning
Archaeology Department
La Trobe University,
Bundoora, VIC, 3086,
Australia.

Ph: 0414-967 644
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Sent: Tuesday, 19 November 2002 02:25
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Is there a Pentax Future?


- Original Message -
From: frank theriault
Subject: Re: Is there a Pentax Future?


, the Hudsons's Bay Company, some 10 or 20 years
> ago appeared to have it's days numbered.  Now, it's healthy
and vibrant.

HBC is still one of the biggest real estate owners in Canada,
thanks to the part they played in Confederation. This is the
only reason for their relative health today. If you look at
their retail operations, Zeller's is pretty much a non issue,
and HBC stock is on par with other junk bonds.
Eaton's commited suicide.

If you look at Pentax from the perspective of patents in use,
they have a whole slew of licensed or sold technology out there,
in use by most every Japanese camera maker, and just because we,
as a group, don't pay much heed to their p&s cameras, they are
profitable and very successful in their market niche.
I also expect the MZ series (the cheap and cheerful ones) made
gobs of money for them. They had to have gotten a dozen cameras
off that one platform, all of which seemed successful enough.

There are lots of comparatively small, but very healthy camera
companies right now. Mamiya, Hasselblad, Leica, and Bronica are
all miniscule companies in the photo marketplace, but they seem
healthy enough.

William Robb






Re: Moonlight

2002-11-18 Thread Herb Chong
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>I wonder if thermal distortion could contribute to it. Even though it is
usually cooler at night, the long exposures would more then make up for it.

BUTCH<

well, i have some books that have very long exposure moonlight landscape
shots and they don't show the effect. exposures on the order of several
minutes to 4 or 5 hours.

Herb




Re: Anybody else shooting the Leonids?

2002-11-18 Thread Jeff

- Original Message -
From: "David Chang-Sang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 10:00 PM
Subject: RE: Anybody else shooting the Leonids?


> The only Leonid I would wanna shoot is the one that's long dead and buried
> and had the last name "Brezhnev"
>
>
> Smirkingly,
> Dave
>

You'll have to trade you Blad for a Kiev.

Jeff.




Re: Is there a Pentax Future?

2002-11-18 Thread Bruce Dayton
Brad,

I will grant you that it is an interesting and hard question.  One
real problem for most of us to answer is that we probably don't have a
broad enough perspective to clearly see how things look.  We tend to
come at it from a hobbyist/prosumer point of view - high end 35mm slr
and possibly medium format.  What portion of the real picture that is
becomes difficult to say.

One of the biggest problems that I see for Pentax in the last decade
or two has been their wonderful backward compatibility.  Think how
many on this list alone tend to buy used equipment - many times quite
old stuff.  That really does nothing for Pentax - they need new sales.
Think how big of a boost it was for Canon to change mounts - all new
cameras and lenses.  Yes they screwed some photographers but in the
long run, I bet they more than made up for it in new sales.

Is Pentax strong in the right areas to be a player in the long run?  I
wish I knew.  I, like you, love this stuff and intend to keep on using
it.  The biggest piece of mind that I have is making the move to
medium format.  I no longer fret and worry so much about how well
Pentax is going to compete with Nikon and Canon because Nikon and
Canon don't exist in the medium format world.  My images are so much
improved by the move that I am really concentrating there.  Of course,
I worry about how Pentax will compete with Mamiya, Contax and
Hasselblad now.  But they don't seem to be quite so distant as in the
35mm world.

I'll just keep shooting away and watch and wait.  I'm happy with what
I have right now.


Bruce



Monday, November 18, 2002, 3:32:58 PM, you wrote:

>> I was in Dortmund last week. The two major department stores "Karstadt"
>> and "Saturn" no longer sell Pentax. Also in two of three photo shops
>> there was no more Pentax gear at stock. I talked to two shop assistants
>> and they told me, that the SLR sales have dropped so dramatically that
>> they have reduced their product range to the two big ones (Nikon and
>> Canon). This seems to confirm the descent of conventional SLR cameras.
>> On the other hand this makes niche products more promising. Hard to
>> say...

PG> Lots of stores here don't handle Pentax at all (some never, some not anymore
PG> "they just don't sell").  For this to occur in what is supposed to be
PG> Pentax's market (Europe and such), makes me wonder.  How many camera
PG> companies have come and gone since Pentax has been around?  At Dave's Camera
PG> Repair shop is a beautiful museum of great cameras long gone.  Dare we count
PG> the brands?  Nothing lasts forever, is Pentax winding down?  This new age is
PG> different from the past, small stores close to bigger ones, large once
PG> family owned businesses (Eaton's in Canada, to name just one of many) have
PG> gone.  Whatever happened recently to all those little computer stores, or
PG> all those 'brand clone' computers?  Big Box, mega companies.  Does Pentax
PG> fit the model in the camera world?  New models and a DSLR as death
PG> throws? and last ditch efforts?  We have rumours, little facts.  What
PG> is Pentax's status in Japan?  Won't change my stance on Pentax, love the
PG> stuff, and will use it until I can't buy a roll for less than $100 :)  Then
PG> go digital, with, well, hopefully Pentax and K mount.  All this is a valid
PG> question.  Anyone here fear this?  They seem like a 'loss leader' type in
PG> the industry and am I wrong with them being a still distant 4th?  When will
PG> they publish some new material for lens, accessories, and such?  Why aren't
PG> they? And what's with the lack of ads?  Is Asahi Optical Co. on it's last
PG> leg?  Could this be THE END? (sorry, dry humour there)  They've had once
PG> heck of a run

PG> Or is North America a pain with trading, shipping, duties and taxes and
PG> laws?  Will NA just be cut out?

PG> Please, this is real stuff, real questions.  I've stated I love my stuff and
PG> will continue to use it.  But no one has ever raised the question but loves
PG> to speculate on everything else.  So I'm tossing it out.  Be open minded.

PG> Since we've all gone through withdrawal when the board was down, this topic
PG> may light the fires.

PG> Brad




Re: Anybody else shooting the Leonids?

2002-11-18 Thread Dan Scott

On Monday, November 18, 2002, at 05:27  PM, Bill Owens wrote:


I'm using the P30t because the MZ-S is loaded with Optima 100, and the 
Kiev
60 because the 645 is loaded with the same.  Besides, the K60 is all 
manual
so I don't have to worry about batteries.

Bill


Glad you mentioned that! I think I'll dig out the battery grip and some 
fresh AA batteries, too.

Dan Scott



Re: Dust Spotting a Grainy Neg?

2002-11-18 Thread Paul Jones
Thanks for everyones replies on this, i'll have a play around tonight with
some of the reccomendations and let the list know how it goes.

Regards,
Paul




Re: SMCP FA 20-35mm f/4 AL or the FA* 24mm f/2 AL WAS -- Re: Wideangle Dilemmas

2002-11-18 Thread Brad Dobo
> I have the original tests in front of me. Fotomagazin tested the FA20-35
> in August 1999. It was tested at 20, 26 and 35mm focal length, and at
> the apertures f4 and f8. The FA*24/f2 was tested at f2 and f8 in 1992.
> So the test results are hardly comparable. FotoMagzine gives curves for
> "Schärfe" (sharpness) and "Brillianz". At f8 the curves for the FA*24/f2
> are slightly higher (better) than those of the FA20-35 at either 20 or
> 26mm, however, the testing method may have changed. BTW: The optics of
> the FA*24/f2 gets verdict of  8.8 for optics and 9.0 (out of 10) for
> mechanics, whereas the FA20-35 gets 9.6 for optics and 9.0 for
> mechanics. *I think it is ridiculous to put these two lenses in the
same
> league meachnically. My conclusion is that Fotomagazin verdicts and
> "supers" (the FA20-35 got one, the FA*24/f2 did not) are very
> questionable.** The curves themselves tell more..
>
> Arnold

* are mine.  Mechanically?  Explain this?  One will break the other won't?
High-tech plastics and metal components on one are worst than another?  I'm
lost.  Perhaps I don't know what 'mechanics' means in respect to a lens.




Re[2]: Grandfather Mountain (was: Re[2]: we're back)

2002-11-18 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi,

I flew into Charlotte once and had the following conversation with a
customs official:

Official: Have you imported any vegetables? Carrots, beans, potatoes,
cabbages, peas, ...?

Me: No.

Official: Thankyou for supporting American agriculture.

---

 Bob  

Monday, November 18, 2002, 11:23:31 PM, you wrote:

> On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 19:44:06 +, Cotty wrote:

>> >Grandfather Mountain Nature Photo Weekend next June.
>> 
>> I better start doing some research here. What's the nearest airport?

> Asheville, NC, or Charlotte, NC.  Might actually be cheaper to fly into
> Atlanta and rent a car, since US Air "owns" both of those airports.

> TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ




Wanted To Buy: Pentax FA 24mm F2.0

2002-11-18 Thread Shaun Canning
Hi Gang,

Wanted To Buy: Pentax FA 24mm F2.0. Any interested parties please reply
off-list.

Cheers

Shaun Canning
Archaeology Department
La Trobe University,
Bundoora, VIC, 3086,
Australia.

Ph: 0414-967 644
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Re: Pentax ad on TV

2002-11-18 Thread Brad Dobo
I haven't yet.  Perhaps if I read this mail I may not have written the last
one?  ...na :)

Brad
- Original Message -
From: "Pat White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 3:52 PM
Subject: Pentax ad on TV


> Twice in the last two days I've seen an ad on CTV Newsnet (Canadian news
> channel) for the Optio 430.  Interestingly, the voiceover only says "Optio
> 430" once, but refers several times to "superior Pentax optics for better
> images".  Has anyone else seen this ad?
>
> Pat White
>
>




Is there a Pentax Future?

2002-11-18 Thread Pentax Guy
> I was in Dortmund last week. The two major department stores "Karstadt"
> and "Saturn" no longer sell Pentax. Also in two of three photo shops
> there was no more Pentax gear at stock. I talked to two shop assistants
> and they told me, that the SLR sales have dropped so dramatically that
> they have reduced their product range to the two big ones (Nikon and
> Canon). This seems to confirm the descent of conventional SLR cameras.
> On the other hand this makes niche products more promising. Hard to
> say...

Lots of stores here don't handle Pentax at all (some never, some not anymore
"they just don't sell").  For this to occur in what is supposed to be
Pentax's market (Europe and such), makes me wonder.  How many camera
companies have come and gone since Pentax has been around?  At Dave's Camera
Repair shop is a beautiful museum of great cameras long gone.  Dare we count
the brands?  Nothing lasts forever, is Pentax winding down?  This new age is
different from the past, small stores close to bigger ones, large once
family owned businesses (Eaton's in Canada, to name just one of many) have
gone.  Whatever happened recently to all those little computer stores, or
all those 'brand clone' computers?  Big Box, mega companies.  Does Pentax
fit the model in the camera world?  New models and a DSLR as death
throws? and last ditch efforts?  We have rumours, little facts.  What
is Pentax's status in Japan?  Won't change my stance on Pentax, love the
stuff, and will use it until I can't buy a roll for less than $100 :)  Then
go digital, with, well, hopefully Pentax and K mount.  All this is a valid
question.  Anyone here fear this?  They seem like a 'loss leader' type in
the industry and am I wrong with them being a still distant 4th?  When will
they publish some new material for lens, accessories, and such?  Why aren't
they? And what's with the lack of ads?  Is Asahi Optical Co. on it's last
leg?  Could this be THE END? (sorry, dry humour there)  They've had once
heck of a run

Or is North America a pain with trading, shipping, duties and taxes and
laws?  Will NA just be cut out?

Please, this is real stuff, real questions.  I've stated I love my stuff and
will continue to use it.  But no one has ever raised the question but loves
to speculate on everything else.  So I'm tossing it out.  Be open minded.

Since we've all gone through withdrawal when the board was down, this topic
may light the fires.

Brad




Re: Anybody else shooting the Leonids?

2002-11-18 Thread Bill Owens
I'm using the P30t because the MZ-S is loaded with Optima 100, and the Kiev
60 because the 645 is loaded with the same.  Besides, the K60 is all manual
so I don't have to worry about batteries.

Bill

- Original Message -
From: "Dan Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Dan Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: Anybody else shooting the Leonids?


>
> On Monday, November 18, 2002, at 04:00  PM, Bill Owens wrote:
>
> > If I can get my carcass out of bed early enough, I plan on shooting
> > them
> > with the P30t/Zenitar 16mm fisheye and the Kiev 60/Arsat 35mm fisheye,
> > both
> > on Ilford 400 B&W film.
> >
> >
> > Bill
> >
>
> Me and a friend are going to take in the 10 o'clock early show a little
> to the north of San Antonio, Texas. I'll be taking either some 800
> speed Kodak or Fuji, depending on what's in the bag. Also, a tripod,
> the ZX-5n w/remote cable, FA 24/2, FA 35/2, A 50/1.7, and the FA
> 77/1.8--trying to cover my bases in case the moon is putting out too
> much light for the wider angles.
>
> My friend will be taking his Oly 3030 digital.
>
> Dan Scott
>





Re: Anybody need developing tanks?

2002-11-18 Thread Geir Aalberg
Hi Bill,

If these are still for sale I'll take both if you'll accept PayPal. 
(Alternately I can buy you some stuff online with my credit card).

Best regards,

-geir


At 14:38 2002-11-18 -0500, you wrote:
I have 2 stainless steel tanks with reels that I have no use for since
getting my Jobo processor.  One is a 35mm dual tank with 2 reels, and the
other is a 120 dual tank with 2 reels.  $15.00 for the 35mm and $20.00 for
the 120, or $30.00 for both, includes shipping to USA address.

Bill



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Re: Dust Spotting a Grainy Neg?

2002-11-18 Thread Doug Franklin
Hi Herb,

On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 15:53:38 -0500, Herb Chong wrote:

> [...] Wacom tablet [...]

Have you used the Graphire or the Intuos2?  Or maybe both?  I'm looking
into getting a Wacom tablet, but I'd like to get a better feel for the
differences (in operation) between the two.  The Intuos2 has better
specs, but do they make a real difference in operation?

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ





Re: Grandfather Mountain (was: Re[2]: we're back)

2002-11-18 Thread Doug Franklin
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 19:44:06 +, Cotty wrote:

> >Grandfather Mountain Nature Photo Weekend next June.
> 
> I better start doing some research here. What's the nearest airport?

Asheville, NC, or Charlotte, NC.  Might actually be cheaper to fly into
Atlanta and rent a car, since US Air "owns" both of those airports.

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ





Re: Moonlight

2002-11-18 Thread Doug Franklin
Hi Jostein,

On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 20:16:12 +0100, Jostein wrote:

> There is one thing that strikes me about the focus in these shots.
> Presumably in focus, they seem blurred. It's especially evident in
> Chet's photo when compared to the same scene by daylight.

I'm wondering if it's halation that's only noticable on long exposures?

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ





Re: Some personal thoughts and speculations over my Pentax future...

2002-11-18 Thread Pål Jensen
Heiko wrote:

> At Boz's webpage I found some information that there were  newer screens  
> for the LX2000. They have numbers between 60 and 70. But isn't there a  
> problem with the metering if you have the wrong screens? 

No. The LX meters at the film plane and is therefore oblivious the variation in 
focusing screens or finders.



> Yes, but where does this three model line-up information come from? I  
> don't remember such an information. 

It was said in the Pentax article in that japanese industry paper. I've gotten this 
fact confirmed by reliable sources. The time frame for this proces is unknown to me.


Pål




Re: Anybody else shooting the Leonids?

2002-11-18 Thread Dan Scott

On Monday, November 18, 2002, at 04:00  PM, Bill Owens wrote:


If I can get my carcass out of bed early enough, I plan on shooting 
them
with the P30t/Zenitar 16mm fisheye and the Kiev 60/Arsat 35mm fisheye, 
both
on Ilford 400 B&W film.


Bill


Me and a friend are going to take in the 10 o'clock early show a little 
to the north of San Antonio, Texas. I'll be taking either some 800 
speed Kodak or Fuji, depending on what's in the bag. Also, a tripod, 
the ZX-5n w/remote cable, FA 24/2, FA 35/2, A 50/1.7, and the FA 
77/1.8--trying to cover my bases in case the moon is putting out too 
much light for the wider angles.

My friend will be taking his Oly 3030 digital.

Dan Scott



Re: M80-200/4.5 & M28/3.5-50/4.5

2002-11-18 Thread Dan Scott

On Monday, November 18, 2002, at 02:52  PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

I have the 1st version of the M80-200/4.5 .You can see some pictures on
http://home.t-online.de/home/tumbschef/Galerie/Bremen/index.htm
It seems to be as good as the M135/3.5 and the M200/4.0 (no scientific 
evaluation).

Regards
Bernd



Hi Bernd,

I like those photos. I can't tell if it's because of the subject, the 
lens, or the weather, but I find them quite appealing. :-)

Since you have good experience with this lens, perhaps you could list 
some of its strengths and weaknesses?

Dan Scott



Re: Moonlight

2002-11-18 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Timothy Sherburne
Subject: Re: Moonlight



>
> 2) Color negative film (and maybe any film) loses acutance at
longer
> exposures.

Bingo.

William Robb





Re: Moonlight

2002-11-18 Thread Dan Scott

On Monday, November 18, 2002, at 12:33  PM, Chet wrote:



What I was wondering if anyone or many folks have taken many 
landscapes by moonlight.

Thanks!
   --Chet


Hi Chet,

I will be tonight! (if everything goes well)

I see that you have the 125 apo-lanthar, Rob Studdert has spoken quite 
favorably of it. Have you any photos taken with it online? It is a lens 
I am very curious about.

Dan Scott



Re: M80-200/4.5 & M28/3.5-50/4.5

2002-11-18 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Thanks

At 09:52 PM 11/18/02 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have the 1st version of the M80-200/4.5 .You can see some pictures on
http://home.t-online.de/home/tumbschef/Galerie/Bremen/index.htm
It seems to be as good as the M135/3.5 and the M200/4.0 (no scientific 
evaluation).

Regards
Bernd

- original Nachricht 



I picked up one of these Sat.  (They're on eBay right now.)
Interestingly, the 80-200 design is more like the K lenses.
Not the compact size of so many M lenses.

Also got the M28/3.5-50/4.5.  Nice, compact little unit.

Any opinions on Them?

Collin



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Re: Anybody else shooting the Leonids?

2002-11-18 Thread Jostein
The European activity peak is predicted at 5 am here. My alarm clock
is set to four, but I dont' know if I'll make it...

If I do, I will make a go at LX, FA24/2 or FA31/1.8, loaded with
Portra 400VC, which is the only high speed film in house tonight. :-(

I'll post something to the list if I manage to get up. If it's good
here, it might be worth staying up for in the US too.

- Original Message -
From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 11:00 PM
Subject: Anybody else shooting the Leonids?


> If I can get my carcass out of bed early enough, I plan on shooting
them
> with the P30t/Zenitar 16mm fisheye and the Kiev 60/Arsat 35mm
fisheye, both
> on Ilford 400 B&W film.
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>




Re: Anybody else shooting the Leonids?

2002-11-18 Thread Christian
looks like it's clouding up nicely here.  last
year it was clear and then the clouds rolled in.

I'll be sleeping in

Christian

- Original Message -
From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> If I can get my carcass out of bed early enough,
I plan on shooting them
> with the P30t/Zenitar 16mm fisheye and the Kiev
60/Arsat 35mm fisheye, both
> on Ilford 400 B&W film.
>
>
> Bill
>
>




Re: Anybody else shooting the Leonids?

2002-11-18 Thread Kevin Waterson
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 17:00:41 -0500
"Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If I can get my carcass out of bed early enough, I plan on shooting them
> with the P30t/Zenitar 16mm fisheye and the Kiev 60/Arsat 35mm fisheye, both
> on Ilford 400 B&W film.

anyone have a date/time for Australia east coast?

Kind regards
Kevin

-- 
Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
Kevin Waterson
Byron Bay, Australia




Re: Anybody else shooting the Leonids?

2002-11-18 Thread frank theriault
I wish.

1)  I'm stuck downtown, where light pollution will be terrible.

2)  It's supposed to rain tonight, so even if I could get outside the city, I
fear there would be nothing to see, and I'd just end up cold and wet.

3):-(

regards,
frank

Bill Owens wrote:

> If I can get my carcass out of bed early enough, I plan on shooting them
> with the P30t/Zenitar 16mm fisheye and the Kiev 60/Arsat 35mm fisheye, both
> on Ilford 400 B&W film.
>
> Bill

--
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
fears it is true." -J. Robert
Oppenheimer





Anybody else shooting the Leonids?

2002-11-18 Thread Bill Owens
If I can get my carcass out of bed early enough, I plan on shooting them
with the P30t/Zenitar 16mm fisheye and the Kiev 60/Arsat 35mm fisheye, both
on Ilford 400 B&W film.


Bill





Re: please comment

2002-11-18 Thread Alan Chan
I think the composition is ok considered you have to cover what she's 
drawing on the floor. However, the result could be greatly enchanced if the 
sharpest was higher.

regards,
Alan Chan

this photo just happened - I looked out of the window and there this girl
was, drawing.
Im not sure why, but I like it.
I would like your comments please

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1115841

I dont think I agree with the crop suggested in the critique, as there 
would
be 'no space left for the girl to draw' 


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Re: Some personal thoughts and speculations over my Pentax future...

2002-11-18 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
Nikon and Canon have been selling digitial cameras for over 10 years. In the
case of the D100 there are subsystems used from the F80, but the camera is
not a F80 modified for digital use. Nikon also has had their version of USM
lenses out for several years and they have been selling a lens with IS also.
BTW, I saw a rumor on another board, not Nikon, that Nikon will be
introducing a D2, DSLR with full frame sensor that shares features with a
yet unannounced F6 SLR in the Spring.

BR

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Heiko Hamann)

. Maybe those Canons
and Nikons are so expensive, as the belated integration of digital
technologies is more complicated than a complete new chassis.





Re: Pentax ad on TV

2002-11-18 Thread bran . everseeking
In <003a01c28f44$6753f9e0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 11/18/02 
   at 12:52 PM, Pat White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

|>but refers several times to "superior Pentax optics for better
|>images".  Has anyone else seen this ad?

I saw it on CLT over the weekend didn't think anything of it until you
mentioned it.  just too willing to tune out the ads i guess


Bran

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Re: Grandfather Mountain (was: Re[2]: we're back)

2002-11-18 Thread Bill Owens
On second thought, not a good idea.  Cotty would drive on the wrong side of
the road.

Bill

- Original Message -
From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: Grandfather Mountain (was: Re[2]: we're back)


> So sorry, we'll miss you.
>
> If Cesar promises to be quiet getting up he can be gate boy, or if Cotty
> shows up we'll draft him.
>
> Bill
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 3:51 PM
> Subject: RE: Grandfather Mountain (was: Re[2]: we're back)
>
>
> > Damn, I have a wedding that weekend. Someone else will have to be gate
> > boy.
> >
> > I've put aside the weekend of 8/17 for the Camera Clinic.
> >
> > --
> > Thomas Van Veen Photography
> > www.bigdayphoto.com
> > 301-758-3085
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 3:11 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: Grandfather Mountain (was: Re[2]: we're back)
> > >
> > >
> > > Charlotte, NC.  And the offer of transportation from there
> > > to GFM and a bed
> > > in PDML Central still stands
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Pentax List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 2:44 PM
> > > Subject: Grandfather Mountain (was: Re[2]: we're back)
> > >
> > >
> > > > > You are welcome back.  However, for penance, you must attend the
> > > > >Grandfather Mountain Nature Photo Weekend next June.
> > > >
> > > > Cripes!!! (gentle English slang meaning 'golly gosh gee-whizz')
> > > >
> > > > I better start doing some research here. What's the
> > > nearest airport?
> > > >
> > > > Cotty
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at
> > > > http://www.macads.co.uk/
> > > > 
> > > > Oh, swipe me! He paints with light!
> > > > http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/
> > > > 
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>





Re: SMCP FA 20-35mm f/4 AL or the FA* 24mm f/2 AL WAS -- Re: WideangleDilemmas

2002-11-18 Thread Arnold Stark


I think you are right. SMC-FA 20-35/4 is very good lens. According to prestigeuos German's magazine "Foto Magazin" this is one of the best super wide angle zooms on the market, superceded only by Nikkor 17-28/2.8. It has grade 9.6 (of 10) for optical performance and 9.0 for build quality. FA* 24/2 had only 9.0 for opticals, and 9.6 (as I remember) for mechanics!


I have the original tests in front of me. Fotomagazin tested the FA20-35 
in August 1999. It was tested at 20, 26 and 35mm focal length, and at 
the apertures f4 and f8. The FA*24/f2 was tested at f2 and f8 in 1992. 
So the test results are hardly comparable. FotoMagzine gives curves for 
"Schärfe" (sharpness) and "Brillianz". At f8 the curves for the FA*24/f2 
are slightly higher (better) than those of the FA20-35 at either 20 or 
26mm, however, the testing method may have changed. BTW: The optics of 
the FA*24/f2 gets verdict of  8.8 for optics and 9.0 (out of 10) for 
mechanics, whereas the FA20-35 gets 9.6 for optics and 9.0 for 
mechanics. I think it is ridiculous to put these two lenses in the same 
league meachnically. My conclusion is that Fotomagazin verdicts and 
"supers" (the FA20-35 got one, the FA*24/f2 did not) are very 
questionable. The curves themselves tell more..

Arnold



Re Developing tanks

2002-11-18 Thread Bill Owens
They're sold.

Bill





Re: Grandfather Mountain (was: Re[2]: we're back)

2002-11-18 Thread Bill Owens
So sorry, we'll miss you.

If Cesar promises to be quiet getting up he can be gate boy, or if Cotty
shows up we'll draft him.

Bill

- Original Message -
From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 3:51 PM
Subject: RE: Grandfather Mountain (was: Re[2]: we're back)


> Damn, I have a wedding that weekend. Someone else will have to be gate
> boy.
>
> I've put aside the weekend of 8/17 for the Camera Clinic.
>
> --
> Thomas Van Veen Photography
> www.bigdayphoto.com
> 301-758-3085
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 3:11 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Grandfather Mountain (was: Re[2]: we're back)
> >
> >
> > Charlotte, NC.  And the offer of transportation from there
> > to GFM and a bed
> > in PDML Central still stands
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Pentax List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 2:44 PM
> > Subject: Grandfather Mountain (was: Re[2]: we're back)
> >
> >
> > > > You are welcome back.  However, for penance, you must attend the
> > > >Grandfather Mountain Nature Photo Weekend next June.
> > >
> > > Cripes!!! (gentle English slang meaning 'golly gosh gee-whizz')
> > >
> > > I better start doing some research here. What's the
> > nearest airport?
> > >
> > > Cotty
> > >
> > > 
> > > Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at
> > > http://www.macads.co.uk/
> > > 
> > > Oh, swipe me! He paints with light!
> > > http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/
> > > 
> > >
> >
> >
>
>





Re: Moonlight

2002-11-18 Thread Timothy Sherburne

Jostein, I've noticed this same lack of sharpness in my own nighttime images
where the exposure lasts several hours. Trees, hills and mountains have a
very soft look to them. Photos of the same scene in the morning with the
same lens, film and camera are nice and sharp. I have two theories as to why
this is in my case:

1) How the lens is focused at night: it's just racked out to infinity, since
I can't see anything through the viewfinder.

2) Color negative film (and maybe any film) loses acutance at longer
exposures.

t

On 11/18/02 11:16 AM, Jostein wrote:

> There is one thing that strikes me about the focus in these shots.
> Presumably in focus, they seem blurred. It's especially evident in
> Chet's photo when compared to the same scene by daylight.
> 
> I don't doubt the eyesight of you guys, and I don't suspect you to
> have flimsy tripods either. so I suppose there must be something
> technical...
> 
> Is it just a scanning matter, a matter of large apertures, or is it
> something more peculiar?
> 
> The first thing I thought of apart from scanning, was that resiprocity
> failure had something to do with contrast rendering, but it shouldn't
> be that serious, even at 1.5 minutes exposure.
> 
> Any suggestions? (Including me imagining things?)
> 
> Jostein
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> 
>> http://pug.komkon.org/00octo/bkdPUG1000.html
>> 
>> 
> 
>>> From Chet
>> 
>> C> http://www.lookoutnow.com/parks/bryce_04.htm
>> 
>> C> if anyone is curious.
>> 
> 




Pentax ad on TV

2002-11-18 Thread Pat White
Twice in the last two days I've seen an ad on CTV Newsnet (Canadian news
channel) for the Optio 430.  Interestingly, the voiceover only says "Optio
430" once, but refers several times to "superior Pentax optics for better
images".  Has anyone else seen this ad?

Pat White





Re: Dust Spotting a Grainy Neg?

2002-11-18 Thread Herb Chong
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Herb,

And so, instead of having to click the mouse button repeatedly to increase
density, you press down harder and it does the same thing? Like a spray
can?
The longer you press the more paint comes out? Okay! I get it. But is it
definitely better? Do I have to go out and buy one?

Don<

once you've done retouching using a pressure sensitive tablet, you'll never
want to use anything else for it again. huge time savings and far more
accurate control over the effect. a good tablet can reproduce all of the
effects of pressure and angle of the stylus on the tablet. Photoshop can't
make use of all of the information. procreate Painter 7 can. Painter can
also make use of a Wacom tablet's stylus ID feature. it remembers what tool
you last used for each stylus you own because each one is uniquely serial
numbered at the factory. i started with a 4x5 tablet and last year upgraded
to a 6x8 tablet (dimensions in inches). increased size means more natural
arm movement for drawing and sketching.

Herb




Re: M80-200/4.5 & M28/3.5-50/4.5

2002-11-18 Thread bienenbernd
I have the 1st version of the M80-200/4.5 .You can see some pictures on 
http://home.t-online.de/home/tumbschef/Galerie/Bremen/index.htm
It seems to be as good as the M135/3.5 and the M200/4.0 (no scientific evaluation).

Regards
Bernd

- original Nachricht 



I picked up one of these Sat.  (They're on eBay right now.)
Interestingly, the 80-200 design is more like the K lenses.
Not the compact size of so many M lenses.

Also got the M28/3.5-50/4.5.  Nice, compact little unit.

Any opinions on Them?

Collin



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RE: we're back

2002-11-18 Thread Shaun Canning
Sniveller..:):):):)

Welcome back Cotty. 

Shaun Canning
Archaeology Department
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Bundoora, VIC, 3086,
Australia.

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Sent: Monday, 18 November 2002 09:49
To: Pentax List
Subject: Re: we're back

Okay, seems like a good time to come back. That is, if you'll have me...


*sniff*


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RE: Grandfather Mountain (was: Re[2]: we're back)

2002-11-18 Thread tom
Damn, I have a wedding that weekend. Someone else will have to be gate
boy.

I've put aside the weekend of 8/17 for the Camera Clinic.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 3:11 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Grandfather Mountain (was: Re[2]: we're back)
>
>
> Charlotte, NC.  And the offer of transportation from there
> to GFM and a bed
> in PDML Central still stands
>
> Bill
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Pentax List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 2:44 PM
> Subject: Grandfather Mountain (was: Re[2]: we're back)
>
>
> > > You are welcome back.  However, for penance, you must attend the
> > >Grandfather Mountain Nature Photo Weekend next June.
> >
> > Cripes!!! (gentle English slang meaning 'golly gosh gee-whizz')
> >
> > I better start doing some research here. What's the
> nearest airport?
> >
> > Cotty
> >
> > 
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> > http://www.macads.co.uk/
> > 
> > Oh, swipe me! He paints with light!
> > http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/
> > 
> >
>
>





Re: Grandfather Mountain (was: Re[2]: we're back)

2002-11-18 Thread gfen
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Bill Owens wrote:
> Charlotte, NC.  And the offer of transportation from there to GFM and a bed
> in PDML Central still stands

Anyone going down from the NYC area? ;)


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Re: Grandfather Mountain (was: Re[2]: we're back)

2002-11-18 Thread Bill Owens
Charlotte, NC.  And the offer of transportation from there to GFM and a bed
in PDML Central still stands

Bill

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To: "Pentax List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 2:44 PM
Subject: Grandfather Mountain (was: Re[2]: we're back)


> > You are welcome back.  However, for penance, you must attend the
> >Grandfather Mountain Nature Photo Weekend next June.
>
> Cripes!!! (gentle English slang meaning 'golly gosh gee-whizz')
>
> I better start doing some research here. What's the nearest airport?
>
> Cotty
>
> 
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>





Re: Some personal thoughts and speculations over my Pentax future...

2002-11-18 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On poniedziałek, lis 18, 2002, at 17:47 Europe/Warsaw, Heiko Hamann 
wrote:

Hello Heiko,
I don't hink too. MZ-S does it's job very well - it is not camera for 
every
professionalist, but there are some like German foto-Proffessor Rolf 
Nobel
who said "MZ-S has as many features as it is needed and as small as 
it is
possible". He uses MZ-S with 24-90 and full set of limited lenses for
available light work.

Do you know a webpage where he tells something about the MZ-S?

I don't know - I can only scan a page from Color Foto 8/2002 with "13 
perfekte Kamera-Kombis" where you can find MZ-S and note about Rolf 
Nobel - I have found on web only some of his works. Let me know and I 
will send you the page from Color Foto!

I was thinking the sam. But as PÃ¥l has told, there will be a complete
new chassis for the new digital and analogue SLRs. So the new modells
might look very different.

Probably yes, but will be the new flagship model? One never knows!


24-90 probably will be slightly better optically and faster (3.5-4.5),
althought its build quality is not as good as in old good 28-105 PZ.


I don't own the PZ but the newer - maybe Tamron-built - version. But
maybe I will get a PZ and check, if this might be sufficient. A used PZ
will definitely be cheaper than a new 24-90...


Yes the newer one is Tamron build, not bad but not as good as 24-90. 
But you have another option - new 28-105/3.2-4.5 - very nice and small 
lens (255 g, 58 mm filter - it's just slighly larger than 28-70/4), 
nice lens hood with window for rotating-type filters- I have done only 
several shots with it, but I must say that it is very sharp for a zoom 
- not much worse than 24-90, and it starts at f=3.2 and costs only 299 
Eur!

Regards
Sylwe




Re: Some personal thoughts and speculations over my Pentax future...

2002-11-18 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi Pål,

on 18 Nov 02 you wrote in pentax.list:

...
>They have different names. Can't remember the names at present and they might
>start to get hard to find. Absolutely worth having; a must in fact.

At Boz's webpage I found some information that there were  newer screens  
for the LX2000. They have numbers between 60 and 70. But isn't there a  
problem with the metering if you have the wrong screens? You can't use  
the LX screens for the MX as they are brighter than the MX screens.

>> I agree that this platform strategy seems to be necessary. But I guess
>> that the new models will be settled below the MZ-S.

>Thats very likely. On the other hand, if Pentax three model line-up is to be
>believed, and provided that the MZ-60 and the MZ-6 are going to be part of
>this line-up, then it follows that the new film slr will replace all models
>above the MZ-6.

Yes, but where does this three model line-up information come from? I  
don't remember such an information. I know this intended reduction of  
analogue line-up but I assume that this is meant in the long run and in  
short term will focus on the compact camera market.

>>As we have discussed some time ago, the MZ-S seems to be a quite
>>successfull niche product
>Perhaps this is an argument for that the next body is not that niche-
>like. It may cost the same but offer more.

Maybe.

>> So the digital addon to an analogue SLR seems to cost something between
>> 200 and 400% of the conventional camera. If the Pentax DSLR will really
>> cost only 1600,- Euro, than the analogue sibling would cost between 530
>> and 320 Euro. This can definitely be no MZ-S competitor. It would be a
>> plastics chassis comparable to the MZ-3/5/6.
>I sort of suspect that Pentax have been sitting on the fence so far in
>order to wait for this percentage to come down. I don't expect a 200%
>price boost for the digital version.

That might be right. Especially as the new platform is designed to  
result both in a digital and a conventional camera. Maybe those Canons  
and Nikons are so expensive, as the belated integration of digital  
technologies is more complicated than a complete new chassis.

>All this is speculation of course, but the only thing that make me
>suspect that the camera might be higher end is the possibility that the
>MZ-60 and the MZ-6 continues as part of the line-up. If not, the new
>body is probably the MZ-6 replacement.

I guess, that Pentax will keep its current SLR line-up for some time and  
offer the DSLR at first. After that they will release that analogue  
sibling and reduce the MZ line-up to MZ-60, MZ-6 and MZ-S. If they have  
established that new chassis, they will gradually replace the MZ models  
with models based on the new chassis. Of course pure speculation. But  
its a kind of anticipation...;-)

>> Might be. But what about the MZ3/5-niche of the "classic" user
>> interface? Will Pentax release a DSLR with classic user elements? Or
>> will they drop thsi concept?

>I don't know, but if Pentax want to have only three film based bodies theres
>no room anymore for niche products. Thay have stated that they want to
>increase the sales volume for each body so something new seems necessary. It
>might be that the conservative AF camera has played out it's role. Pentax
>(only) knows the current sales volumes of the MZ-M/5n/3; perhaps they aren't
>selling that well anymore?

I was in Dortmund last week. The two major department stores "Karstadt"  
and "Saturn" no longer sell Pentax. Also in two of three photo shops  
there was no more Pentax gear at stock. I talked to two shop assistants  
and they told me, that the SLR sales have dropped so dramatically that  
they have reduced their product range to the two big ones (Nikon and  
Canon). This seems to confirm the descent of conventional SLR cameras.  
On the other hand this makes niche products more promising. Hard to  
say...

>> I assume a complete ne design with similar functions as the MZ-6 has.
>That was what I initially thought as well. I was certain that the whole
>MZ-line would dissapear and that we would see a brand new series of
>three film slr's and a digital slr. However, Pentax UK have also stated
>that the MZ-series will continue. If this is true then either the new
>slr will be a true stand alone camera or it will be inserted into the
>MZ-series.

Or there will simply be a transitional period with both MZ- and new  
line-up.

Regards, Heiko




Re[2]: Moonlight

2002-11-18 Thread Bruce Dayton
Jostein,

I'll go back and look at the original slide with a loupe and report
back what I see.


Bruce



Monday, November 18, 2002, 11:16:12 AM, you wrote:

J> There is one thing that strikes me about the focus in these shots.
J> Presumably in focus, they seem blurred. It's especially evident in
J> Chet's photo when compared to the same scene by daylight.

J> I don't doubt the eyesight of you guys, and I don't suspect you to
J> have flimsy tripods either. so I suppose there must be something
J> technical...

J> Is it just a scanning matter, a matter of large apertures, or is it
J> something more peculiar?

J> The first thing I thought of apart from scanning, was that resiprocity
J> failure had something to do with contrast rendering, but it shouldn't
J> be that serious, even at 1.5 minutes exposure.

J> Any suggestions? (Including me imagining things?)

J> Jostein


J> - Original Message -
J> From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> http://pug.komkon.org/00octo/bkdPUG1000.html
>>
>>

>>> From Chet
>>
>> C> http://www.lookoutnow.com/parks/bryce_04.htm
>>
>> C> if anyone is curious.
>>




Grandfather Mountain (was: Re[2]: we're back)

2002-11-18 Thread Cotty
> You are welcome back.  However, for penance, you must attend the
>Grandfather Mountain Nature Photo Weekend next June.

Cripes!!! (gentle English slang meaning 'golly gosh gee-whizz')

I better start doing some research here. What's the nearest airport?

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Re[2]: we're back

2002-11-18 Thread Cotty
>You are more than welcome back.  We even accept Canon users here -
>although they have to like Pentax and talk nice ;)

I promise.

>Live long and prosper,

Ke'plah!

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Anybody need developing tanks?

2002-11-18 Thread Bill Owens
I have 2 stainless steel tanks with reels that I have no use for since
getting my Jobo processor.  One is a 35mm dual tank with 2 reels, and the
other is a 120 dual tank with 2 reels.  $15.00 for the 35mm and $20.00 for
the 120, or $30.00 for both, includes shipping to USA address.

Bill





Re: my picturehomepage

2002-11-18 Thread Cotty
>Hi!
>Great that the list is back  
>I finally found the time and uploaded some pictures unfortuantly
>some of the scans aren't very good, but I didn't have the time to scan
>them again... -_-
>If you want to view them: http://www.xjapan.de/fotopage/fotos.html
>Critics are welcome, there's so much to learn! ^_^
>bye Katrin

Katrin,

You need to resize your thumbnails so that they are only a few kilobytes 
each. Sure have the individual shots at 60 or 80 kb, but the index page, 
the thumbnail pics are too large and take forever to load. Nice shots BTW.

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RE: we're back

2002-11-18 Thread Cotty
>You only have to promise one thing - you will put another roll of film
>in you MX immediately!

My God, you read my mind :-)

I just did!

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Re: Moonlight

2002-11-18 Thread Dr E D F Williams
I noticed it too. But I'm neurotic about all images being sharp as razors.

Don

Dr E D F Williams

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Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery
Updated: March 30, 2002


- Original Message - 
From: "Jostein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: Moonlight


> There is one thing that strikes me about the focus in these shots.
> Presumably in focus, they seem blurred. It's especially evident in
> Chet's photo when compared to the same scene by daylight.
> 
> I don't doubt the eyesight of you guys, and I don't suspect you to
> have flimsy tripods either. so I suppose there must be something
> technical...
> 
> Is it just a scanning matter, a matter of large apertures, or is it
> something more peculiar?
> 
> The first thing I thought of apart from scanning, was that resiprocity
> failure had something to do with contrast rendering, but it shouldn't
> be that serious, even at 1.5 minutes exposure.
> 
> Any suggestions? (Including me imagining things?)
> 
> Jostein
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > http://pug.komkon.org/00octo/bkdPUG1000.html
> >
> >
> 
> >> From Chet
> >
> > C> http://www.lookoutnow.com/parks/bryce_04.htm
> >
> > C> if anyone is curious.
> >
> 




Re: Some personal thoughts and speculations over my Pentax future...

2002-11-18 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi Michel,

on 18 Nov 02 you wrote in pentax.list:

>And, don't forget the grip BG-10.
>Extra, and an indispensable complement !

Of course! But this might be a perfect item for a christmas wish  
list...;-)

Regards, Heiko




Re: Some personal thoughts and speculations over my Pentax future...

2002-11-18 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi Pål,

(I have just browsed my ASCII-tables for the right å: AltGr+134 ;-))

on 18 Nov 02 you wrote in pentax.list:

>The MZ-S has a significantly better viewfinder thatn any other Pentax
>AF camera. It uses the same type screens as the new LX screens. The
>only "controversial" issue with the MZ-S viewfinder might be the
>magnification.

I didn't know that there are old and new LX screens. How do I difference  
between them?

>> against this. So the MZ-S might be the final flagship.

>Why? Althoug sales of higher end film slr's are dropping the manufacturers
>still need to make both digital and film slr from the same parts bin. It is
>the only way not to break the back on a digital slr. In the foreseeable
>future DSLR market share will still be largely Mpix/dollar which means there
>is resistance of putting newexpensive technology and features in a digital
>slr before it's payed for, or getting revenues from, a film slr sibling.
>It's no coincidence that the EOS-1Ds is based on the EOS-1V; the D100 on the
>F80; D1  on the F100; the Contax Digital on the N1 etc. I have no doubts that
>the coming Pentax digital slr won't be in the absolute high-end, but if
>Pentax have ambitions of doing more than make initial sales of a  digital slr
>for old K-mount users, they need new features as well.

I agree that this platform strategy seems to be necessary. But I guess  
that the new models will be settled below the MZ-S. As we have discussed  
some time ago, the MZ-S seems to be a quite successfull niche product  
("seems" as we don't have actual figures from Pentax). For a larger  
market than that niche it is too expensive. For a large pro-market it is  
nor "pro" enough. What makes the MZ-S so special for me is its build  
quality and the metal chassis. This is also what makes it so expensive.

The Pentax DSLR shouldn't be a niche product. This is a growing market  
and there are many semi-professional users waiting for an affordable  
DSLR. So its analogue sibling won't be a niche product, either. This new  
chassis should be less expensive than the MZ-S in order to address a  
bigger market. Let's make some calculations:

EOS-1D: 6500,- Euro
EOS-1V: 2000,- Euro
digital extra:   225%

D100:   2500,- Euro
F80: 500,- Euro
digital extra:   400%

D1: 5000,- Euro
F100:   1500,- Euro
digital extra:   233%

So the digital addon to an analogue SLR seems to cost something between  
200 and 400% of the conventional camera. If the Pentax DSLR will really  
cost only 1600,- Euro, than the analogue sibling would cost between 530  
and 320 Euro. This can definitely be no MZ-S competitor. It would be a  
plastics chassis comparable to the MZ-3/5/6.


>I strongly suspect that the new slr to be shown next year will replace the
>MZ-5n, MZ-3

Might be. But what about the MZ3/5-niche of the "classic" user  
interface? Will Pentax release a DSLR with classic user elements? Or  
will they drop thsi concept?

>and the MZ-S even if it sounds incredible.

Really;-) I guess that the MZ-S will stay a unique product in Pentax's  
line-up. As the LX was some years ago.

>If Pentax chose not to introduce the KAF3 lens mount with this camera,
>then I suspect that the camera might be the MZ-1 and it will be
>augmented in the slr line-up with it's digital sibling, which might or
>might not have similar features, and the MZ-60 and the MZ-6.

I don't think that the new models will have much to do with the MZ-line- 
up. The UK-based reports speak against this. I assume a complete new  
design with similar functions as the MZ-6 has. I would appreciate KAF3  
but I wonder if they can realize it in this first step and to that  
price...

>I might be wrong though...

Who not?

Regards, Heiko




Re: Some personal thoughts and speculations over my Pentax future...

2002-11-18 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi akozak,

on 18 Nov 02 you wrote in pentax.list:


Yes, nice equipment.

>and much better that zooms I could afford to buy in different
>system.

That's reight. This is the advantage of the available Pentax prime lenses.


>Sometimes I think that Pentax marketing is not good, they can produce
>great gear but cannot sell it properly because of lack of advertisement.

You are absolutely right. Sometimes I think, that Pentax doesn't want to  
sell more...

>And I think that magazines usually prefer Canon/Nikon.

They spend more money on ads in those magazines...;-)

>Pentax if even introduce sth new they spend too less on mentioning it
>and advertising it.If Nikon/Canon introduce sth the call it in
>exaggerated way  but people exactly know how it works. It is truth that
>Pentax does not have cameras like 1V and F5 but quality of glass is
>great (think about Limited lenses for instance)

Yes, but Nikon/Canon don't have anything comparable to the MZ-S. Their  
metal bodies are much more expensive. But noone seems to consider  
this...

>But they do not have sth like IS or USM and system digital cameras so
>if they do not introduce them they can have big problems to survive but
>I hope they will release at last such technologies.

As they have already have registered the patents for IS and USM, we  
might see those technologies soon. On the other hand - Nikon is the  
market leader and lacks these technologies, too.

...
>I hate words that Pentax lenses are worse than Canon/Nikon
>in general.Each system has gems and bad gear. JUst compare your lenses
>(pictures of course) with your Canon ones your friends have and  you
>will see.

You're right. And I believe, that the Pentax gems are quite cheap  
compared to that of other manufacturers.

>many ones. Do not forget that Pentax has great medium format equipment
>which is great!!

A friend of mine is a professional photographer using Pentax 67. I might  
borrow a kit some day to chekc how that feels. But that might get veeery  
expensive...;-)

>You alone must make a decision what to do.Sometimes I
>also think to change system but to re-buy for instance 105mm and 135mm
>will be financial catastrophy for me and I am not sure if I gain a lot.

There is another reason for you to keep the Pentax system: You know the  
Pentax gems. Just imagine to find those gems in the large Canon or Nikon  
pool...


>Good luck Alek from Cracow

Thanks!

Heiko (from the not so far Germany...)


















>U¿ytkownik Heiko Hamann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisa³:
>>At have to say first that I'm not a professonal photographer. I've great
>>respect for the craft and the art that photographers do. For me
>>photography is a part of my spare time, so my demands are different from
>>those of pros - some of this demands may even be more subjective than
>>objective. I like taking pictures but I also like to deal with my Pentax
>>gear because of some kind of technical fascination. Actually I'm owning
>>the following pieces:
>>
>>- MZ-5n + AF500FTZ
>>- LX with winder, FA1, FB1+FC1 and a Metz 45CT4
>>- SMC-FA 2/35
>>- SMC-M 1,7/50
>>- SMC-FA 4/28-70
>>- SMC-A 3,5/35-105 Macro
>>- SMC-FA 4-5,6/28-105
>>- SMC-FA /80-320
>>- SMC-M 2,8/100
>>- SMC-K 4/200
>>
>>In the last weeks I have come to ponder about my gear and its future
>>because of severeal reasons:
>>
>>- I'm wearing glasses and the viewfinder of the MZ-5n is not very useful
>>for me. In consequence manual focussing in difficult light is nearly
>>impossible for me. Unfortunately the AF of the MZ-5n is not a big help
>>in these situations - it just starts hunting my lens...
>>
>>- I really like the LX and I can understand the fascination of those who
>>have been using it for 20 years. I prefer it because of its better
>>viewfinder and the build quality. But one of the best times for me to
>>use my camera is when I am on holiday. But I don't want to carry a big
>>set of equipment with me. I prefer one body with one lens! As my
>>girlfriend prefers an AF body, we take the the MZ-5n in most cases. The
>>same with family parties: I prefer the small MZ-5n+AF500FTZ set instead
>>of the large LX+Metz combo.
>>
>>- It seems that the quality of analogue photo laboratories gets worse. I
>>have many prints that are blurred although the negatives are fine.
>>
>>- I was on a wedding some weeks ago. There were ca. 25 guests, 6 Canon
>>SLRs and my Pentax. The Canon guys and gals were comparing there plastic
>>cameras and competed with each other who might have the largest Sigma
>>or Voigtländer hyper-zoom. There were also some more compact and digital
>>cameras... That was the point I startedt to think "less is more". I
>>started to think about my gear and that I use a 28-105 in 70% of my
>>photos and mainly my FA2/35 and M2,8/100 for the rest. And I felt the
>>need to reconfigure my gear.
>>
>>The first decision was, to sell some lenses. There are two reasons:
>>First, I don't use them. Second, I need some money for the
>>reconfiguration. I will keep t

Re: Some personal thoughts and speculations over my Pentax future...

2002-11-18 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi Alin,

on 18 Nov 02 you wrote in pentax.list:

>   I also have a MZ-5n and more or less the same assortment of lenses.

It seems a quite common assortment;-)

>   I don't plan to sell any of them, partly because at the current prices
>   it's not worth the hassle,

That's right. But sometimes eBay still breaks all rules...

>   much. Basically I have it split between a light trekking kit and an
>   available light kit.

That would fit my demands quite precisely.

>   My main problem is the continuous degeneration of the
>   photo-finishing services, as well as the shrinking offer of film.

It's the same here in Germany. There are still many laboratories, but if  
you choose a normal, inexpensive photo service, than the result is very  
disappointing. Most of these laboratories already use digital techniques  
to print the pictures and I'm afraid that these techniques are not  
optimal for conventional film material.


>   E6 kits, not to mention slide mounts. I am reduced to only one(!)
>   lab where I can get decent results from. I wonder what will I do
>   when it's operator goes away... how much time and money will I
>   commit to train another good operator? :o(

That's really hard.

>   But I still like a lot the film - I came to the point where I can
>   finely tune it and get pretty much the results I want, and no digital
>   advancement or price drop will make me give up entirely to film.

But you might wonder if you see the results of a digital camera. They  
are still not comparable to analogue results, but they are already  
impressing at 10x15cm prints. Hard to say what will be in 5 years...

>   Therefore I plan to get the MZ-S (btw, I too am positive Pentax won't
>   build another film flagship, this is certainly the last top Pentax
>   on film) and maybe another couple of lenses, but - and this is a
>   big but - only after I see the K mount digital SLR out on the
>   market.

That matches with me considerations. So we will have to wait for the PMA  
next year 8-]

>   As for the digital SLR, I can wait for the full-frame 24x36,
>   10 MPixel, $1000 camera. I'm in no hurry.

I agree to that, too.

Regards, Heiko




Re: Some personal thoughts and speculations over my Pentax future...

2002-11-18 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi Sylwester,

on 18 Nov 02 you wrote in pentax.list:

>> - It has a great build quality.
>That's true - very nice, it's weakest point is back cover, but even Nikon
>F100 has plastick back too.

That wouldn't bother me.

>> - I don't think, that Pentax will release a superior highend modell in
>> the next year.
>I don't hink too. MZ-S does it's job very well - it is not camera for every
>professionalist, but there are some like German foto-Proffessor Rolf Nobel
>who said "MZ-S has as many features as it is needed and as small as it is
>possible". He uses MZ-S with 24-90 and full set of limited lenses for
>available light work.

Do you know a webpage where he tells something about the MZ-S?

...
>Well, speaking of the new SLR chassis I suspect, that MZ-S could be a base
>for these... As you look closer, MZ-S has totally different shutter, film
>transport (IR frames counter, reversed film cartridge pin), redesigned
>mirror box. New cameras could be based on these elements... but I doubt if
>they will replace MZ-S with something totally new in such a short period of
>time...

I was thinking the sam. But as Pål has told, there will be a complete  
new chassis for the new digital and analogue SLRs. So the new modells  
might look very different.

>24-90 probably will be slightly better optically and faster (3.5-4.5),
>althought its build quality is not as good as in old good 28-105 PZ.

I don't own the PZ but the newer - maybe Tamron-built - version. But  
maybe I will get a PZ and check, if this might be sufficient. A used PZ  
will definitely be cheaper than a new 24-90...

>> So - what's the question here? I don't know :-) I just wanted to share
>> my thougts with you. Maybe you see things in a different light or you
>> can confirm my considerations. Would you buy a MZ-S now or would you
>> wait?  Will there be a new flagship worth waiting for?
>For me MZ-S is a kind of camera that when you fall in love with it will last
>for very long ;-) Very good choice!

Thanks.

Heiko




Re: Some personal thoughts and speculations over my Pentax future...

2002-11-18 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi Leon,

on 18 Nov 02 you wrote in pentax.list:

>>- I'm wearing glasses and the viewfinder of the MZ-5n is not very
>>useful

>My wife has an MZ-3 and it's viewfinder is the same as (she says
>slightly better) than the MZ5n, but I don't like the viewfinder on it.

Afaik the viewfinders are identical.

>I do like the viewfinder on the MZ-S and have no problems with it
>wearing glasses.

Do you think it is more useful in dim light than that of the MZ-3/5?

>I have never owned an LX but having held one I can agree that it is a
>wonderful camera.  There are times however when you want speed and the
>MZ-S provides this.

That's right.

>>- I was on a wedding some weeks ago. There were ca. 25 guests, 6 Canon
>>SLRs and my Pentax. The Canon guys and gals were comparing there plastic

>Too many Canons!  At work there are a lot of people who are into
>photography and the first question most of them ask is what equipment
>you have (It ranges from screwmount to medium format, Praktika to
>Blads).  Once you get them past that they can actually talk good photo
>talk with no mention of brands.

The difficulty is to get them past that equipment talk...;-)

...
>The MZ-S is good because by itself it is small, and if you want to
>impress the equipment heads you add the BG-10 with it's vertical grip.

:) I will buy a BG-10 to save energy costs and as I think that it makes  
the MZ-S mor complete.

>I like the wireless flash.  I have played around with it a bit and the
>modeling feature is wonderful, to say nothing of contrast control using
>2 of them.  Great fun.

I'm not very much in flash photography. I take most of my pictures  
outside. If I need a flash then I'm happy not to think too much about  
it... Maybe this will change if I have more time to deal with flash  
photography. Until then me AF500FTZ should fit my needs.

>>can confirm my considerations. Would you buy a MZ-S now or would you
>>wait?  Will there be a new flagship worth waiting for?
>I already did buy one, but for some of what I do I still prefer the
>Z1-p.

Isn't the Z-1P's AF quite slow? Especially compared to that of the MZ-S?

>As I tell everyone when they ask me what camera they should buy
>- buy what is right for you.  Decide what features you need (or want),
>the build quality and so on, make sure your hands can hold it and that
>you can carry it around all day.  Buy it and then take photos.

Thanks!

Heiko




Re: Re[2]: we're back

2002-11-18 Thread Bill Owens
Brad,

It's both!  Something grand and somewhat of an inside joke.  The Grandfather
Mountain Nature Photo Weekend
(http://www.grandfather-mountain.com/events/nphoto.htm) is an annual event
held on(drum roll please)... Grandfather Mountain.  The link above will
give you the details.  Next year will be my fourth consecutive appearance.
There will also be several other PDML'ers there, including Doug, (List Guy),
Brewer; Tom (I don't use camera straps), VanVeen; Mark Roberts, Cesar
Matamoros, John DeLoach, hopefully Cotty and Don DeLurker.  Although the
event doesn't kick off til Saturday, many of us arrive as early as Wednesday
for some quality fellowship time and photography together.  Next year's
featured speaker will be Tony Sweet (http://www.tonysweet.com/).  Tony was
there 2 years ago and several of us had the unique opportunity of spending
some time with him and observing him work.

Bill
- Original Message -
From: "Pentax Guy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: we're back


> Ok, time to show my ignorance.  This 'Grandfather Mountain Nature Photo
> Weedend'.  What is it?  Something grand or an inside joke around here?
I've
> been hearing about tours and such and am even thinking about looking to be
a
> free assistant to any lowly professional photographer in the city.  Why
> don't I type these things in for search on the internet, I don't know,
lazy
> I guess, then again, typing all this to get the same information is rather
> silly.
>
> Brad
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 10:37 AM
> Subject: Re: Re[2]: we're back
>
>
> > You are welcome back.  However, for penance, you must attend the
> > Grandfather Mountain Nature Photo Weekend next June.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > > Okay, seems like a good time to come back. That is, if you'll have
me...
> > >
> >  >Cotty
> >
> >
> >
>





Re: Childrens Portfolios

2002-11-18 Thread Flavio Minelli
Dr E D F Williams wrote:
> 
> If by 'over the top' you mean painfully contrived I agree. Most of the
> images in the links provided make me shiver. But there are about five really
> great pictures in there.
> ...

Although they have a huge marketing value I have to say I find those
images plain uninteresting when not decidedly disgusting, especially
since I'm a father myself. 

I can't see anything cute in a premature newborn held in the palm of his
hand by a 7 feet tall black man.

Just my thought, really.

Flavio




Re: Some personal thoughts and speculations over my Pentax future...

2002-11-18 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
Heiko Hamann a écrit:

At have to say first that I'm not a professonal photographer. I've great  
respect for the craft and the art that photographers do. For me  
photography is a part of my spare time, so my demands are different from  
those of pros - some of this demands may even be more subjective than  
objective. I like taking pictures but I also like to deal with my Pentax  
gear because of some kind of technical fascination. Actually I'm owning  
the following pieces:

- MZ-5n + AF500FTZ
- LX with winder, FA1, FB1+FC1 and a Metz 45CT4
- SMC-FA 2/35
- SMC-M 1,7/50
- SMC-FA 4/28-70
- SMC-A 3,5/35-105 Macro
- SMC-FA 4-5,6/28-105
- SMC-FA /80-320
- SMC-M 2,8/100
- SMC-K 4/200

In the last weeks I have come to ponder about my gear and its future  
because of severeal reasons:

- I'm wearing glasses and the viewfinder of the MZ-5n is not very useful  
for me. In consequence manual focussing in difficult light is nearly  
impossible for me. Unfortunately the AF of the MZ-5n is not a big help  
in these situations - it just starts hunting my lens...

- I really like the LX and I can understand the fascination of those who  
have been using it for 20 years. I prefer it because of its better  
viewfinder and the build quality. But one of the best times for me to  
use my camera is when I am on holiday. But I don't want to carry a big  
set of equipment with me. I prefer one body with one lens! As my   
girlfriend prefers an AF body, we take the the MZ-5n in most cases. The  
same with family parties: I prefer the small MZ-5n+AF500FTZ set instead  
of the large LX+Metz combo.

- It seems that the quality of analogue photo laboratories gets worse. I  
have many prints that are blurred although the negatives are fine.

- I was on a wedding some weeks ago. There were ca. 25 guests, 6 Canon  
SLRs and my Pentax. The Canon guys and gals were comparing there plastic  
cameras and competed with each other who might have the largest Sigma
or Voigtländer hyper-zoom. There were also some more compact and digital  
cameras... That was the point I startedt to think "less is more". I  
started to think about my gear and that I use a 28-105 in 70% of my  
photos and mainly my FA2/35 and M2,8/100 for the rest. And I felt the  
need to reconfigure my gear.

The first decision was, to sell some lenses. There are two reasons:  
First, I don't use them. Second, I need some money for the  
reconfiguration. I will keep the FA2/35 and the M2,8/100 and will sell  
the rest on ebay or to interested PDML members (I will come to this in  
another posting).

The next decision is that of the camera body. I don't have a final  
decision found, so maybe you can help me. At the moment I'm tending to  
buy an MZ-S. Here is why:

- It has a great build quality.
- It doesn't have a much better viewfinder than the MZ-5n but a much  
better AF that might help me in difficult situations.
- It may become the last analogue "cult" camera as a successor to the  
LX. I have started with an AF-body being my first SLR. Maybe the MZ-S  
might be the same for me in 20 years as the LX is for some guys and gals  
here.
- I don't think, that Pentax will release a superior highend modell in  
the next year.
- I don't think that a DSLR will be affordable for me in the first  
generation
- I like the MZ-S

What makes me hesitating is the announcement of new SLR modells. On the  
one hand I don't think, that Pentax will replace the MZ-S with a new  
modell or even release an addtional highend modell. Everything I have  
read about the market development of the analogue camera segment speaks  
against this. So the MZ-S might be the final flagship. I'm also afraid  
that the new modells might be "trendy", silver, moderne - in other words  
don't look like a classic SLR. On the other hand - these are my personal  
speculations. To be sure I will have to wait =:-[

Actually I'm thinking that the MZ-S will be a fine replacement of my two  
present cameras. I also tend to buy a 24-90 lens as it has a very useful  
range and is told to be quite sharp. BTW - would it be a real  
improvement compared to my 28-105? In addition I'm dreaming of a 1,8/77  
Ltd (should be black, of course;-)).

I also have considered to change to Nikon or Canon. But the Nikon F65/80  
viewfinders are even worse than that of Pentax and a F100 is simply too  
expensive for a hobbyist. And Canon - see above...;-) I like Pentax and  
I will stay with these small and individualistic cameras. It is the  
modern successor to the Olympus OM-system which unfortunately is dead.

So - what's the question here? I don't know :-) I just wanted to share  
my thougts with you. Maybe you see things in a different light or you  
can confirm my considerations. Would you buy a MZ-S now or would you  
wait?  Will there be a new flagship worth waiting for?

Regards, Heiko


And, don't forget the grip BG-10.
Extra, and an indispensable complement !

Michel

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/krg/
French, but you can transla

Re: Re[2]: we're back

2002-11-18 Thread Pentax Guy
Ok, time to show my ignorance.  This 'Grandfather Mountain Nature Photo
Weedend'.  What is it?  Something grand or an inside joke around here?  I've
been hearing about tours and such and am even thinking about looking to be a
free assistant to any lowly professional photographer in the city.  Why
don't I type these things in for search on the internet, I don't know, lazy
I guess, then again, typing all this to get the same information is rather
silly.

Brad

- Original Message -
From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: we're back


> You are welcome back.  However, for penance, you must attend the
> Grandfather Mountain Nature Photo Weekend next June.
>
> Bill
>
> > Okay, seems like a good time to come back. That is, if you'll have me...
> >
>  >Cotty
>
>
>




Re: we're back

2002-11-18 Thread Artur Ledóchowski
- Original Message -
From: "Doug Brewer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: we're back


> my apologies.

No problem:)
Gee, I thought I was banned from the list or something. Thank God we're
back:)
It was very frustrating to see no e-mails in my mailbox.
Regards
Artur




Re: please comment

2002-11-18 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi,

It's a nice photo, but I agree about the lower 3rd of the photo. The
girl is on the half and I think this would have benefitted if she'd
been on a 3rd. Compositionally she is a point on a neutral area, and
therefore dominates the image. The eye scans the area and tries to
establish the relationship of the point to the edges and corners.
Being too close to the edge unbalances the picture; being on a 3rd would
have been more harmonious.

The diagonal formed by the drawing is exactly right. A slight reframing
so that she was on the 3rd, and the drawing still formed a diagonal
between the lower left and top right corners would have been just right,
and there would have been enough space below and to the left of her to
allow the line to continue.

---

 Bob  

Monday, November 18, 2002, 2:39:58 PM, you wrote:

> Hi.
> this photo just happened - I looked out of the window and there this girl
> was, drawing.
> Im not sure why, but I like it.
> I would like your comments please

> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1115841

> I dont think I agree with the crop suggested in the critique, as there would
> be 'no space left for the girl to draw' 

> thanks.
> -Sridhar




Re: Re[2]: we're back

2002-11-18 Thread Bill Owens
 You are welcome back.  However, for penance, you must attend the
Grandfather Mountain Nature Photo Weekend next June.

Bill

> Okay, seems like a good time to come back. That is, if you'll have me...
>
 >Cotty






Re: please comment

2002-11-18 Thread Bill Owens
Comment made.

Bill

- Original Message -
From: "Arathi-Sridhar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 9:39 AM
Subject: please comment


> Hi.
> this photo just happened - I looked out of the window and there this girl
> was, drawing.
> Im not sure why, but I like it.
> I would like your comments please
>
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1115841
>
> I dont think I agree with the crop suggested in the critique, as there
would
> be 'no space left for the girl to draw' 
>
> thanks.
> -Sridhar
>
>





New Toy :)

2002-11-18 Thread David Brooks
Hi all.
Just had to pass on my new lens(to me) arrived from
a list member Friday night(thanks Mark L.)Delivered
as discribed and look great.Customs got me for $8.00 US.
Oh i quess i should say which one,SMC M 150 F 3.5
with caps and case.
Looking forward to trying this one out soon.
Thanks Mark,i have had two very successful transactions
with him this year FYI.
Dave


Pentax User
Stouffville Ontario Canada
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Re: Dust Spotting a Grainy Neg?

2002-11-18 Thread Herb Chong
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Herb,

What do you mean by not enough control? If the mouse is set correctly and a
suitable magnification (zoom) is chosen, mine will move one pixel at a
time.
Is there something about a PST that makes precise movement easier?

Don<

Photoshop allows the stylus pressure to control the degree of blending that
takes place, or whatever you decide to have pressure control.

Herb




Re: Photo backpacks

2002-11-18 Thread mike wilson
Hi,

The problem with much of the good quality stuff is that (I get
the impression) one pays a significant portion for the name on
it.  Whether this can be fairly attributed to R&D costs, etc.,
I'm not really able to tell.

Certainly, "good" names don't seem to be of higher quality in
proportion to their cost.  Lucky for me that I found a Lowepro
completely mispriced in a local shop

My suggestion is, for once, don't buy over the internet unless
you have had the opportunity to wear and pack the bag yourself
at a local shop.  This purchase is a close as you will get,
photgraphically (and maybe literally), to buying clothes.  (I
was going to say underwear but you can't try that on first...) 
You really need to be sure that what you are buying is fit for
the purpose - you are not buying this article for its looks,
primarily.

mike




Re[2]: we're back

2002-11-18 Thread Bruce Dayton
Cotty,

You are more than welcome back.  We even accept Canon users here -
although they have to like Pentax and talk nice ;)

Live long and prosper,

Bruce



Monday, November 18, 2002, 2:49:01 AM, you wrote:

C> Okay, seems like a good time to come back. That is, if you'll have me...


C> *sniff*


C> Cotty

C> 
C> Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at
C> http://www.macads.co.uk/
C> 
C> Oh, swipe me! He paints with light!
C> http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/
C> 




please comment

2002-11-18 Thread Arathi-Sridhar
Hi.
this photo just happened - I looked out of the window and there this girl
was, drawing.
Im not sure why, but I like it.
I would like your comments please

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1115841

I dont think I agree with the crop suggested in the critique, as there would
be 'no space left for the girl to draw' 

thanks.
-Sridhar





Re: Childrens Portfolios

2002-11-18 Thread Juey Chong Ong
On Monday, November 18, 2002, at 05:56 AM, Kevin Waterson wrote:


Recently I have been approached to do some folios for younger
models in the 6-16 age group. I realise of course many of the
adult themes are not applicable, but would like any feed back
from anyone who has done this sort thing. It is totally new
to me and I have much research to do. Even a push in the right
direction would help


I think a good place to start your research is to look at children, 
teen, bridal and parenting magazines, fashion catalogs and web sites to 
see what the target market is looking for nowadays. I'm sure that will 
give you a lot of ideas which you can then adapt to the model's needs 
and your style. Also take some time to observe younger people going 
about their daily lives. You might even find some new models!

--jc



Re: Some personal thoughts and speculations over my Pentax future...

2002-11-18 Thread Pål Jensen
Heiko wrote:

> - It doesn't have a much better viewfinder than the MZ-5n but a much  
> better AF that might help me in difficult situations.

The MZ-S has a significantly better viewfinder thatn any other Pentax AF camera. It 
uses the same type screens as the new LX screens. The only "controversial" issue with 
the MZ-S viewfinder might be the magnification. 


> What makes me hesitating is the announcement of new SLR modells. On the  
> one hand I don't think, that Pentax will replace the MZ-S with a new  
> modell or even release an addtional highend modell. Everything I have  
> read about the market development of the analogue camera segment speaks  
> against this. So the MZ-S might be the final flagship. 


Why? Althoug sales of higher end film slr's are dropping the manufacturers still need 
to make both digital and film slr from the same parts bin. It is the only way not to 
break the back on a digital slr. In the foreseeable future DSLR market share will 
still be largely Mpix/dollar which means there is resistance of putting newexpensive 
technology and features in a digital slr before it's payed for, or getting revenues 
from, a film slr sibling.  It's no coincidence that the EOS-1Ds is based on the 
EOS-1V; the D100 on the F80; D1  on the F100; the Contax Digital on the N1 etc. I have 
no doubts that the coming Pentax digital slr won't be in the absolute high-end, but if 
Pentax have ambitions of doing more than make initial sales of a  digital slr for old 
K-mount users, they need new features as well. Since we know the coming digital slr 
will form the basis of many new camera bodies all they need to do is to replace the 
digital part of a digital slr with a film transport. This probably what the need for a 
new platform is all about. 

I strongly suspect that the new slr to be shown next year will replace the MZ-5n, MZ-3 
and the MZ-S even if it sounds incredible. If Pentax chose not to introduce the KAF3 
lens mount with this camera, then I suspect that the camera might be the MZ-1 and it 
will be augmented in the slr line-up with it's digital sibling, which might or might 
not have similar features, and the MZ-60 and the MZ-6. I might be wrong though...

Pål




Re: Dust Spotting a Grainy Neg?

2002-11-18 Thread Dr E D F Williams
Herb,

What do you mean by not enough control? If the mouse is set correctly and a
suitable magnification (zoom) is chosen, mine will move one pixel at a time.
Is there something about a PST that makes precise movement easier?

Don

Dr E D F Williams

http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams
Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery
Updated: March 30, 2002


- Original Message -
From: "Herb Chong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 3:13 PM
Subject: Dust Spotting a Grainy Neg?


> Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >My problem is that when i spot out the marks on the neg i mess up the
> grain
> structure in that area and the grain starts looking soft. Any one got any
> ideas on how to get around this? I'll also have to get rid of one or two
> small scratches and when i have tried this, i get a line along where the
> scratch was that has this soft grain. Looks more like Tmax in that area :)
>
> Thanks,
> Paul Jones<
>
> except for easy situations, you will find that this type of repair best
> done with one of the cloning tools. Photoshop 7's Healing Brush is very
> good for areas where the tone changes relatively slowly. ordinary cloning
> is better where there may be abrupt changes or a pattern. in all cases, a
> pressure sensitive tablet makes a huge difference. if you are going to
need
> to retouch often, you need to get one. a mouse just doesn't have enough
> control.
>
> Herb...
>





Re: Trip to Dayton, Ohio.

2002-11-18 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
There's a couple of us in Columbus.
Contact me directly & we'll see if there's an evening free.

Collin

At 09:06 AM 11/18/2002 -0500, you wrote:

Greetings!

I found out late Friday that I need to be in Dayton (Fairborn), Ohio this
week.  I am flying out this afternoon and returning on Friday.

I will be attending some meetings there, but I should have my evenings and
from noon Thursday free to go out and about.

Any PDMLers in the area?

Any insight as to what to check out while there?  I have not had time to do
the usual internet searching yet.

I plan to travel light photographically - this keeps it from being OT :-)  I
am carting my gear in a fanny pack instead of the usual Tamrac camera bag.
It will consist of two LXen - not sure which ones -, 31/1.8, 77/1.8, 50/1.2
and maybe the 24/2 - though, because of its size it may stay behind.  An
AF280T and Sekonic light meter will round out the package.

Any and all info greatly appreciated,

César
Panama City, Florida





RE: we're back

2002-11-18 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
Cotty,

I never considered you gone.

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

-- -Original Message-
-- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
-- Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 5:49 AM
-- 
-- 
-- Okay, seems like a good time to come back. That is, if 
-- you'll have me...
-- 
-- 
-- *sniff*
-- 
-- 
-- Cotty




Trip to Dayton, Ohio.

2002-11-18 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
Greetings!

I found out late Friday that I need to be in Dayton (Fairborn), Ohio this
week.  I am flying out this afternoon and returning on Friday.

I will be attending some meetings there, but I should have my evenings and
from noon Thursday free to go out and about.

Any PDMLers in the area?

Any insight as to what to check out while there?  I have not had time to do
the usual internet searching yet.

I plan to travel light photographically - this keeps it from being OT :-)  I
am carting my gear in a fanny pack instead of the usual Tamrac camera bag.
It will consist of two LXen - not sure which ones -, 31/1.8, 77/1.8, 50/1.2
and maybe the 24/2 - though, because of its size it may stay behind.  An
AF280T and Sekonic light meter will round out the package.

Any and all info greatly appreciated,

César
Panama City, Florida




Re: we're back

2002-11-18 Thread gfen
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Cotty wrote:
> Okay, seems like a good time to come back. That is, if you'll have me...

I dunno, I think we need to have a poll.. Where's Albano or the other
fellow from Germany who's name has completely slipped my mind (was it
Arnold?)

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Re[3]: foto backpack

2002-11-18 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi,

I've never used one of those hip-belt type bags, but I guess they
could cause a lot of imbalance and weight distribution problems,
especially if you're using them over long periods. One of the
attractive features of the LowePro system is its versatility. You can
create your own system of belt attachments, and just use the belt.
This distributes things according to your own needs, rather then what
the bag designer thinks you need.

The difficulty with bag recommendations is that it is such a personal
subject, and what works for one person may not work for others. In
fact, for the same person different bags and systems are useful in
many different situations. Buy shares in camera-bags!

---

 Bob  

Monday, November 18, 2002, 12:52:35 PM, you wrote:

> What I really like about it, is that I don't have to put the whole
> backpack down to get to my stuff... and also that you can use the
> hipbelt without the backback attached to it... I haven't seen this on
> any other bag yet...
> But I guess I will try to find a store that can order it, so that I can
> have a look at it before buying... the cameras stores here aren't very
> good when it comes to camera backpacks -_-

> Bob Walkden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 18.11.2002, 13:35:28:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> it certainly looks pretty good, but you'd have to check it in person
>> before you can be sure. I use this one:
>> http://www.lowepro.com/pages/series/street/rovlight.htm
>> which I can recommend highly.
>> 
>> ---
>> 
>>  Bob  
>> 
>> Monday, November 18, 2002, 11:58:50 AM, you wrote:
>> 
>> > Hi!
>> > well, I'm searching for a new fotobag and somehow fell in love with this
>> > one...
>> > http://www.wolfskin.de/eng/aktuell/news/fototasche.php3?xiD=420.984965
>> > http://www.jw-katalog.de/ui_en/UiProduct_en.asp?pid=86810&action=menu&id=29
>> > I haven't seen it in reality yet, but I have some other Jack Wolfskin
>> > stuff and like them very much. What do you think about it?
>> > I want a bag which I can use for hiking and which has room for other
>> > stuff too, since I don't want to carry two bags...
>> > I have an Pentax ME and an MX, and I guess most times I will have only
>> > on with me and also about 3 lenses...
>> > thanks for any advice!
>> > bye Katrin




Re: RE: Re: foto backpack

2002-11-18 Thread scars
thanks for the link ^_^
the jack wolfskin does also have a rain cover hidden in the front ^_^
bye Katrin


Rob Brigham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 18.11.2002,
14:08:19:
> http://www.lowepro.com/pages/series/trekking/orionaw.htm
> 
> This has a similar thing, allowing use of the hip-pack without the top
> backpack.  It doesn't appear to be fully modular like the one you posted
> though, but it does come with the very good AW (All Weather) cover.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: 18 November 2002 12:53
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Re: foto backpack
> > 
> > 
> > What I really like about it, is that I don't have to put the 
> > whole backpack down to get to my stuff... and also that you 
> > can use the hipbelt without the backback attached to it... I 
> > haven't seen this on any other bag yet... But I guess I will 
> > try to find a store that can order it, so that I can have a 
> > look at it before buying... the cameras stores here aren't 
> > very good when it comes to camera backpacks -_-
> > 
> > Bob Walkden  schrieb am 18.11.2002, 13:35:28:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > it certainly looks pretty good, but you'd have to check it 
> > in person 
> > > before you can be sure. I use this one: 
> > > http://www.lowepro.com/pages/series/street/rovlight.htm
> > > which I can recommend highly.
> > > 
> > > ---
> > > 
> > >  Bob
> > > 
> > > Monday, November 18, 2002, 11:58:50 AM, you wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hi!
> > > > well, I'm searching for a new fotobag and somehow fell in 
> > love with 
> > > > this one... 
> > > > 
> > http://www.wolfskin.de/eng/aktuell/news/fototasche.php3?xiD=42
> 0.9849
> > > 65
> > >
> http://www.jw-katalog.de/ui_en/UiProduct_en.asp?pid=86810&action=menu&id
> =29
> > > I haven't seen it in reality yet, but I have some other Jack
> Wolfskin
> > > stuff and like them very much. What do you think about it?
> > > I want a bag which I can use for hiking and which has room for other
> > > stuff too, since I don't want to carry two bags...
> > > I have an Pentax ME and an MX, and I guess most times I will have
> only
> > > on with me and also about 3 lenses...
> > > thanks for any advice!
> > > bye Katrin




Re: Childrens Portfolios

2002-11-18 Thread Dr E D F Williams
If by 'over the top' you mean painfully contrived I agree. Most of the
images in the links provided make me shiver. But there are about five really
great pictures in there.

Don

Dr E D F Williams

http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams
Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery
Updated: March 30, 2002


- Original Message -
From: "Rob Brigham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 1:47 PM
Subject: RE: Childrens Portfolios


> There is some stuff I like here:
>
> http://www.sandersonphoto.homestead.com/
>
> And here:
>
> http://www.gaylafoxphoto.com/new%20gallery/kids/index.htm
>
> And here:
>
> http://www.lightandvision.com/Children.htm
>
> Particularly:
>
> http://www.lightandvision.com/Children19.htm
>
>
> Hope some of this helps.
>
> You could also search for anne geddes stuff, but I find it way over the
> top.
>
> Rob
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kevin Waterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 18 November 2002 10:56
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Childrens Portfolios
> >
> >
> > When preparing modelling portfolios I have a basic list of
> > shots I like to get through in about 4-6 hours, depending on
> > locations. These range from Business Suit to Casual to
> > Glamour, Bikini, Sports etc
> >
> > Recently I have been approached to do some folios for younger
> > models in the 6-16 age group. I realise of course many of the
> > adult themes are not applicable, but would like any feed back
> > from anyone who has done this sort thing. It is totally new
> > to me and I have much research to do. Even a push in the
> > right direction would help.
> >
> > Kind regards
> > Kevin
> > --
> > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
> > See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> > Kevin Waterson
> > Byron Bay, Australia
> >
> >
>





Dust Spotting a Grainy Neg?

2002-11-18 Thread Herb Chong
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>My problem is that when i spot out the marks on the neg i mess up the
grain
structure in that area and the grain starts looking soft. Any one got any
ideas on how to get around this? I'll also have to get rid of one or two
small scratches and when i have tried this, i get a line along where the
scratch was that has this soft grain. Looks more like Tmax in that area :)

Thanks,
Paul Jones<

except for easy situations, you will find that this type of repair best
done with one of the cloning tools. Photoshop 7's Healing Brush is very
good for areas where the tone changes relatively slowly. ordinary cloning
is better where there may be abrupt changes or a pattern. in all cases, a
pressure sensitive tablet makes a huge difference. if you are going to need
to retouch often, you need to get one. a mouse just doesn't have enough
control.

Herb...




RE: Re: foto backpack

2002-11-18 Thread Rob Brigham
http://www.lowepro.com/pages/series/trekking/orionaw.htm

This has a similar thing, allowing use of the hip-pack without the top
backpack.  It doesn't appear to be fully modular like the one you posted
though, but it does come with the very good AW (All Weather) cover.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: 18 November 2002 12:53
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Re: foto backpack
> 
> 
> What I really like about it, is that I don't have to put the 
> whole backpack down to get to my stuff... and also that you 
> can use the hipbelt without the backback attached to it... I 
> haven't seen this on any other bag yet... But I guess I will 
> try to find a store that can order it, so that I can have a 
> look at it before buying... the cameras stores here aren't 
> very good when it comes to camera backpacks -_-
> 
> Bob Walkden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 18.11.2002, 13:35:28:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > it certainly looks pretty good, but you'd have to check it 
> in person 
> > before you can be sure. I use this one: 
> > http://www.lowepro.com/pages/series/street/rovlight.htm
> > which I can recommend highly.
> > 
> > ---
> > 
> >  Bob
> > 
> > Monday, November 18, 2002, 11:58:50 AM, you wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi!
> > > well, I'm searching for a new fotobag and somehow fell in 
> love with 
> > > this one... 
> > > 
> http://www.wolfskin.de/eng/aktuell/news/fototasche.php3?xiD=42
0.9849
> > 65
> >
http://www.jw-katalog.de/ui_en/UiProduct_en.asp?pid=86810&action=menu&id
=29
> > I haven't seen it in reality yet, but I have some other Jack
Wolfskin
> > stuff and like them very much. What do you think about it?
> > I want a bag which I can use for hiking and which has room for other
> > stuff too, since I don't want to carry two bags...
> > I have an Pentax ME and an MX, and I guess most times I will have
only
> > on with me and also about 3 lenses...
> > thanks for any advice!
> > bye Katrin




Re: Pics of modified F*300mm f/4.5

2002-11-18 Thread Fred
> The previous owner of my newly-acquired lens modified the tripod
> mount so it wouldn't stick out as much.  Someone asked for pics,
> so here they are.

Thanks for the photos, Dave.  That does seem like an interesting
modification.  [Suggestion: one photo from the side would be helpful
- .]  The final result is similar to the proportions of the A*
200/4 Macro's tidy little tripod mount.

Fred





Re: Re: foto backpack

2002-11-18 Thread scars
What I really like about it, is that I don't have to put the whole
backpack down to get to my stuff... and also that you can use the
hipbelt without the backback attached to it... I haven't seen this on
any other bag yet...
But I guess I will try to find a store that can order it, so that I can
have a look at it before buying... the cameras stores here aren't very
good when it comes to camera backpacks -_-

Bob Walkden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 18.11.2002, 13:35:28:
> Hi,
> 
> it certainly looks pretty good, but you'd have to check it in person
> before you can be sure. I use this one:
> http://www.lowepro.com/pages/series/street/rovlight.htm
> which I can recommend highly.
> 
> ---
> 
>  Bob  
> 
> Monday, November 18, 2002, 11:58:50 AM, you wrote:
> 
> > Hi!
> > well, I'm searching for a new fotobag and somehow fell in love with this
> > one...
> > http://www.wolfskin.de/eng/aktuell/news/fototasche.php3?xiD=420.984965
> > http://www.jw-katalog.de/ui_en/UiProduct_en.asp?pid=86810&action=menu&id=29
> > I haven't seen it in reality yet, but I have some other Jack Wolfskin
> > stuff and like them very much. What do you think about it?
> > I want a bag which I can use for hiking and which has room for other
> > stuff too, since I don't want to carry two bags...
> > I have an Pentax ME and an MX, and I guess most times I will have only
> > on with me and also about 3 lenses...
> > thanks for any advice!
> > bye Katrin




Re: RE: my picturehomepage

2002-11-18 Thread scars
well normally my scanner produces better images (at least good enough
for me and for putting them online) but I accidently had set the
compression to low when I was saving the images... I realize it after
scanning quite a few images and then I was too lazy to scan them
again... -_-
but thanks for the advice...
Katrin

Raivo Tiikmaa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 18.11.2002, 13:13:00:
> 
> Hi !
> 
> Make scans directly from negs - quality is better. All labs with Fuji
> Frontier will do such things :o). 
> 
> 
> Cheers , Raivo




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