Re: Re: Limited 31mm f1.8 or FA 28mm f2.8 and FA 35mm f2

2002-12-04 Thread akozak
Hi,
Thanks!
Alek
Uytkownik Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisa:
On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 03:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 Thanks! So 35 is even better than 24mm and cheaper.Maybe I shall look 
 for the lens
 Alek



Alek,

I responded to this a little earlier, but my post hasn't shown up the 
list yet (maybe the bit byter ate it). But, anyway, this url should 
have been included with the previous post.

http://www.phred.org/pentax/lensgal/fa35_2/fa35_2.html

Dan Scott





Re[2]: Winter Storm Warning

2002-12-04 Thread Cotty
Har! Here in the UK the entire country grinds to a halt if there's a
touch of hoar frost in the morning!

No! Dammit Bob! I won't have it!

You know for a fact that it's the *forecast* of a touch of frost that 
brings us to our knees.

Cot


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Re: S9000

2002-12-04 Thread Cotty
Goerge,

Thanks for the very informative posting re the 9000S printer, and the 
links at the bottom. Very persuasive.

Cheers,

Cot

Cotty -

I've had my S9000 for almost 4 days now, so this is not even close to any 
kind of a thorough review.  I'm replacing a Lexmark Z52 so I'm still in the 
wow stage.

I do most of my printing on Ilford's Galerie Classic Pearl.  So far I've 
reprinted a dozen of my favorite prints and every one is significantly 
improved, as should be expected, from my previous efforts with the two year 
old Lexmark.  Back when I bought the Lexmark I wanted a relatively fast, 
inexpensive printer that could do a photo now and then.  My desires have 
changed a bit.

I also print a contact sheet for each roll of film.  I print these on any 
relatively decent, double sided photo or near photo paper.  I printed 4 
sets of contact sheets yesterday.  I make the images relatively large, so 
each roll of 36 takes two sheets. Here, I'm not looking for high 
quality.  I'm looking for speed and relatively decent results.  The ink 
dries quickly and there is no waiting time when flipping the page to print 
on the reverse side.

So far I can say this.  The speed claims for this printer are right 
on.   It only takes a couple of minutes or so to print an 8x10 at the 
highest quality settings.  I really appreciate the speed.  I do this for a 
hobby and my time is limited.

I will say my first print scared me a bit.  It came out wet and banded.  A 
real mess.  Turned out to be my fault.  I hadn't set the paper type.  The 
second print, with the correct paper type setting was excellent.

I believe the individual ink tanks will contribute to a small cost 
savings.  After four days of mixed photo and text printing the bar graphs 
on the ink monitor show black, photo cyan, and yellow diminished by perhaps 
15-20%.  (At this point I can't speak for the accuracy of the bar graphs in 
the display.)  Cyan, photo magenta, and magenta look barely touched.

Here is the basis for my decision:

1) Most of the reviews scored the quality of the Epson and Canon too close 
to call, though some gave the edge to one or the other.  I sincerely doubt 
that any can really tell the difference if prints from both are not side by 
side.

2) Speed is clearly awarded to the Canon.

3) The Canon print head is easily replaceable by the owner.  The Epson must 
go back to the factory for a head replacement.  Canon wins this one.

4) Longevity isn't a factor.  I'm already reprinting by best stuff because 
print quality has improved so much in the last couple of years.  I guessing 
I'll probably be doing it again in the next five years or so.

So for me, the decision was fairly easy.

We'll see if I feel as positive a year from now after I've lived with it 
for a while.

---

Here are a few links to reviews that may help you make a decision.

 From Tom's Hardware Guide:
http://www6.tomshardware.com/consumer/02q1/020307/index.html

 From Steve's Digicams:
http://www.steves-digicams.com/2002_reviews/canon_s9000.html

 From Luminous-Landscape:
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/printers/s9000.shtml

 From TechTV:
http://www.techtv.com/freshgear/products/story/0,23008,3373429,00.html

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RE: 6x7 MLU

2002-12-04 Thread Malcolm Smith
Pat White wrote:

 Actually, I don't find vibration to be that much of an issue on
 the 6x7.  It
 could be that MLU was added because a professional camera really
 should have
 it, to make the camera suitable for the most demanding applications.

I bought my non MLU for landscape photography, and it is always tripod
mounted - vibration is not an issue for me. The larger negative or slide is
far superior to 35mm for this part of my hobby.

 As for the film transport, several people have mentioned that the most
 significant upgrade came with the 67II, and that the 67 is better than the
 6x7, but still not perfect.  No problems with mine so far.

Apart from loading the first film (!), I have had no problems.

 The early cameras are definitely less expensive, and I'm pleased
 with mine.
 Also, all the lenses fit all the cameras, so once you're into the system,
 you can get a later body when it suits your budget.

I want another body so I can shoot slide and BW of the same scenes. Because
I find the 67 body I have no problem, and the non MLU is not favoured and
therefore cheaper, I'll be acquiring another.

Malcolm




RE: Re[4]: electra studio flash/ring flash

2002-12-04 Thread Chris Stoddart

  On the subject of ringlights, didn't they use it for fashion
  shoots in the 80's. How did it work out then, any idea?

In the last 6 months on UK TV I have seen three different programmes that
were about or included current fashion photographers. In every case the
photographer used a ringlight at some point - it was only about a foot/18
inches across tho (still pretty big!).

Chris




Pentax updated firmware for Optio 330GS

2002-12-04 Thread Rob Brigham
From dpreview:

Pentax Japan has posted updated firmware, version 1.11, for their Optio
330GS, we're currently unsure as to whether this can be loaded onto
European or US cameras. It is of interest because it appears to provide
direct printing over USB, and Pentax were not part of the Direct Print
Standard announced at the weekend.




Re: Winter Storm Warning

2002-12-04 Thread Keith Whaley
You're right! 
The next reasonable spell, I'd be at the realtors, putting my house up
for sale!

Where DO you live, Dan?

keith whaley


Dan Scott wrote:
 
= snipped =
 
 It's just whatever you've acclimated to. I'm thinking you guys would
 drop like flies if you had a month or two of  F 100+ weather and green
 house humidity. g Heck, one March we had a daytime high 113 F. And it
 wasn't dry heat, it was soaking wet two feet out the door heat. :-)




ricoh 50mm 1.4 any experiences???

2002-12-04 Thread whereswayne
whats its bokeh like as good as pentax?




any experiences with the ricoh 28-100mm, someone told me it was made by pentax???

2002-12-04 Thread whereswayne
a good lens?
nice flare resistance?
sharpness?
was it made by pentax for ricoh?





Re: Re[4]: electra studio flash/ring flash

2002-12-04 Thread Feroze Kistan
Ok now I know what your talking about,
I have them in my fish tank though, didn't
pay too much for the bulbs. I build my own
light boxes for signage so it shouldn't be a problem
Thanks
Feroze
- Original Message - 
From: Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 5:27 AM
Subject: Re: Re[4]: electra studio flash/ring flash


 
 On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 01:33  PM, Feroze Kistan wrote:
 
 
 
 
  Aren't there compact fluorescent studio lights now? There's plenty of
  CF lamps with good CRI and color temp of 5000k, wouldn't that be
  sufficient? They sure don't put out much heat compared to most of the
  other lamps.
 
  Dan Scott (don't know anything, just wondering)
 
  Hi Dan,
  Dont know about the CF lights, would be worth looking into, know any 
  more
  details??
 
  Feroze
 
 
 Feroze,
 
 I was just guessing, based on my experience with CFs for aquaria.
 
 If you aren't adverse to DIY, AHS sells kits of ballast, reflectors and 
 wiring along with lamps for very reasonable prices, though I'm not sure 
 how you'd adapt that to your purpose.
 
   Just checking now: the 36watt and 55watt CFs put out 5300K light with 
 CRIs of 93 and 92, respectively. They also have lamps with color temps 
 of 5000K, 6400K, 6700K, and 10,000K.
 
 
 AHS is http://ahsupply.com/product-.htm
 
 Hey, just on a lark I looked at BH, they do sell CF studio lights for 
 high $$$. The price difference would certainly make me look at rolling 
 my own.
 
 Dan Scott
 
 




Re: Pat White in American Photo/6x7

2002-12-04 Thread Paul Stenquist


Dan Scott wrote:

 
 Was there a film transport problem with some of the early 6x7s? I've
 been considering the Koni and Mamiya press cameras as an alternative to
 a 6x7 because I thought I'd read that the older ones were iffy.
 

The film transport mechanism is the weak spot on the first twenty years
or so of 6x7s. That being said, I wouldn't call it iffy. They were used
and frequently abused by pros through all those years. I've put close to
1000 rolls of film through my 6x7 without even a hint of a problem. Even
the frame spacing is perfect. By the way, any camera with 6x7 graphic on
the upper front is the early type. The much more recent version, which
purportedly has an improved transport mechanism, is designated 67. And
of course the newest version is the 67II. The very early 6x7 lacks
mirror lock up, but the 6x7 series camers with mlu are quite nice and
frequently affordable. Mine has only some minor cosmetic flaws and came
complete with a prism. I paid $202.11 on ebay at about this time last
year. 
Paul




Re: ricoh 50mm 1.4 any experiences???

2002-12-04 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 04.12.02 12:16, whereswayne at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 whats its bokeh like as good as pentax?
Which Ricoh? There were two versions of 50/1.4 - rikenon XR (worse
optically) and rikenon P (better)

-- 
Best Regards
Sylwek






Re: Pat White in American Photo/6x7

2002-12-04 Thread whereswayne
xr i think
- Original Message - 
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: Pat White in American Photo/6x7


 
 
 Dan Scott wrote:
 
  
  Was there a film transport problem with some of the early 6x7s? I've
  been considering the Koni and Mamiya press cameras as an alternative to
  a 6x7 because I thought I'd read that the older ones were iffy.
  
 
 The film transport mechanism is the weak spot on the first twenty years
 or so of 6x7s. That being said, I wouldn't call it iffy. They were used
 and frequently abused by pros through all those years. I've put close to
 1000 rolls of film through my 6x7 without even a hint of a problem. Even
 the frame spacing is perfect. By the way, any camera with 6x7 graphic on
 the upper front is the early type. The much more recent version, which
 purportedly has an improved transport mechanism, is designated 67. And
 of course the newest version is the 67II. The very early 6x7 lacks
 mirror lock up, but the 6x7 series camers with mlu are quite nice and
 frequently affordable. Mine has only some minor cosmetic flaws and came
 complete with a prism. I paid $202.11 on ebay at about this time last
 year. 
 Paul
 
 




Re: ricoh 50mm 1.4 any experiences???

2002-12-04 Thread whereswayne
its the xr
- Original Message - 
From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: ricoh 50mm 1.4 any experiences???


 on 04.12.02 12:16, whereswayne at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  whats its bokeh like as good as pentax?
 Which Ricoh? There were two versions of 50/1.4 - rikenon XR (worse
 optically) and rikenon P (better)
 
 -- 
 Best Regards
 Sylwek
 
 
 
 




Re: Minolta Spotmeter F

2002-12-04 Thread Keith Whaley
Very nice shot, Mark!

keith whaley

Mark Erickson wrote:
 
 Jeff,
 
 I have a Minolta Spotmeter F.  It's pretty nice.  The feature that I use a
 lot is the memory that allows you to take several readings.  It shows the
 results graphically on the LCD display.  As William Robb mentioned, it makes
 zone system calculations really easy.
 
 Here's an example taken with my Century Graphic with the aid of my meter:
 
 http://www.westerickson.net/mark/misc/PennerLake.jpg
 
 --Mark




Re: Re[4]: electra studio flash/ring flash

2002-12-04 Thread Rob Studdert
On 3 Dec 2002 at 21:27, Dan Scott wrote:

 Hey, just on a lark I looked at BH, they do sell CF studio lights for 
 high $$$. The price difference would certainly make me look at rolling 
 my own.

The main problem with using mains frequency fluorescent lamps is that since the 
phosphorescent materials have a relatively short persistence so the light output isn't 
relatively continuous like tungsten lamps, it flickers. This can send some camera 
meters crazy, my LX and E-10 are both affected, 
we are 50Hz here so the lamps flash 100 times per second. A lot of the commercial 
fluorescent light (cold lights) have special high frequency power sources, hence the 
often high costs.

Cheers,

 Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html




Re: Winter Storm Warning

2002-12-04 Thread Rob Studdert
On 4 Dec 2002 at 13:11, Shaun Canning wrote:

 Try living in a country that is in almost perpetual drought, only to 
 hear city based weather 'talking heads' on the TV bemoaning a day of 
 rain

Not in Sydney, the talking heads were joyous at the thought of a wet weekend 
last week, first good rain in many many months. It's a stark contrast with out 
NA friends for sure, it was 42°C (107.6°F) at my place yesterday. It's too hot 
to go outside and it's windy so it's like being inside a huge fan forced oven.

Just to bring us back on topic for a moment, there was an Option 330GS? and MZ-
6 ad on TV last night, of couse the MZ comes with a luscious Sigma zoom lens.

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html




Re: Minolta Spotmeter F

2002-12-04 Thread Mike Johnston
 The Spotmeter F has an excellent reputation. About the only
 thing Minolta does well is they make good meters.


Personally, I'd prefer a Minolta meter for studio work with flash, but for
work with negative film in natural light I think a Pentax spotmeter is head
and shoulders better. Hold out.

--Mike




Re: More Pentax stuff for auction

2002-12-04 Thread Keith Whaley
Hi J.C.

Have you located my order and sent my copy of the 1970 Takumar lens
manual yet?
   eBay #1394035671 
This goes back to the November 5th end-of-auction date, by the way...

keith whaley
Los Angeles

* * * *

J. C. O'Connell wrote:
 
 http://jcoconnell.com/JCO_AUCT.HTM
 
   1970 Pentax Dealer's Takumar Lens Manual$9.99
  -
  Dec-09-02 18:30:00
1975 era- Pentax SMC Takumar Lens Data Sheets$9.99
  -
  Dec-09-02 18:30:00
Pentax SMC-F 50mm F2.8 MACRO AF Lens$129.99
 $179.99
  -
 
  Dec-13-02 18:30:00
Canon Canonet QL17 35mm Rangefinder Camera$49.99
 $79.99
  -
 
  Dec-13-02 18:30:00
Pentax SPOTMATIC 35mm SLR Camera Body$34.99
 $59.99
  -
 
  Dec-13-02 18:30:15
 
 J.C. O'Connell  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 My Business references  Websites: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/jco/




Re: Minolta Spotmeter F

2002-12-04 Thread Mike Johnston
 Here's an example taken with my Century Graphic with the aid of my meter:
 
 http://www.westerickson.net/mark/misc/PennerLake.jpg



Ahh, that's a beautiful shot. You have good tone.

(He has good tone was Louis Armstrong's highest praise for a fellow
musician.)

--Mike




Re: P6X7 Oldies

2002-12-04 Thread Mike Johnston
 Luminious-Landscape uses the P 6X7 system a lot and he can have/afford
 anything. ( Right Mike J. ?)


Michael Reichmann uses a Rollei 6008 system and both a Pentax 67 and 645,
plus he uses Canon digital SLRs a lot. I can't tell you exactly in what
proportion he prefers each to the others, but yes, my experience is that he
pretty much goes out and gets whatever he wants. I can at least say that
he's probably the last person who would use anything because he has to, or
because he's stuck with it, or because he's forced to make do.

--Mike



Mike Johnston


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Photography_ magazine!




Re: Winter Storm Warning

2002-12-04 Thread Chris Stoddart

On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Pål Jensen wrote:

 There must be more than thousand car on square km I'm occupying. We do.
 however, have winter tyres on our cars. Either studded or the extreme
 ice tyres without them.

Let's be honest here - Scandinavians also know how to drive on this
stuff. That's why they produce so many world-class rally drivers  :-)

Chris




Re: Winter Storm Warning

2002-12-04 Thread Stephen Moore
Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

 Problem here is that we're expecting freezing rain.
 This means glaze ice on
 roads, and, even worse, downed tree limbs and power
 lines due to ice build up.

On the upside, there's a photo I've been wanting to take
for years. On my way to work there's a small maountain
road named Hell's Delight Road. I'd love to make a shot
of the sign dripping icicles...

Stephen




Re: Winter Storm Warning

2002-12-04 Thread Dan Scott

On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 11:02  PM, Mike Johnston wrote:


It's just whatever you've acclimated to. I'm thinking you guys would
drop like flies if you had a month or two of  F 100+ weather and green
house humidity. g Heck, one March we had a daytime high 113 F. And 
it
wasn't dry heat, it was soaking wet two feet out the door heat. :-)


Yeah but Dan, by the time you're 80 you'll think that's room 
temperature,
and you'll be asking for your cardigan when it gets below 90.

s

--Mike, tuff guy from the north


Damn. I have to buy a cardigan?

Dan Scott




Photo ops in Oz

2002-12-04 Thread Bill Owens
I just saw on CNN that some Australian women are going to dance naked in the
Outback to end the drought.  Any of you Aussies going to be there with your
Pentaxes?

Bill





Re: Pat White in American Photo/6x7

2002-12-04 Thread Dan Scott
Thanks Albano.

A question: even with the vibration the shots come out better than a 
good 35mm with no vibration problems? How much better?

Dan Scott

On Wednesday, December 4, 2002, at 07:37  AM, Albano Garcia wrote:

Hi, Dan
Yes, film transport is an issue in old 6x7s. I own an
old nonMLU body, and the film transport is a bit
weared out. It leaves a lot of space between frames,
sometimes cutting frame number 10 by half.
Cosmetically it's like new, not a simple mark. And
yes, I miss the MLU because I would like to use it
always I can (in tripod, non moving subject). But
since I mostly use it for handheld portraits, it's not
that bad. I think it's worth it if you find it really
cheap (as I did). If you really like the beast, you
can buy another body (more modern, a 67 if possible)
and use the earlier as a backup. That's what I would
like to do, if I had money. but first I want more
lenses... Somebody has a 55mm for 200 usd? :-)
Regards

Albano





Re: Becoming OT: Jazz (Was: Re: Minolta Spotmeter F)

2002-12-04 Thread Keith Whaley


Robert Soames Wetmore wrote:
 
 (He has good tone was Louis Armstrong's highest praise for a fellow
 musician.)
 
 --Mike
 
 I prefer a dry, dirty, nasty tone - like Steve Grossman's.  Or maybe rich
 and fruity and nasty like Harry Sokal...or big and nasty and scratchy like
 early Gato Barbieri.  But never just good!
 
 Rob

We weren't talking literally about tone preferences, we were talking
jazz quality.
Ya just had to be there, Rob.
Good from Ol' Louis was more praise than you can imagine.
Just 'good'? No. Really, REALLY good!  g

And, not just musical 'tone' but everything about how the musician played.

keith whaley




Eclipse in South Africa

2002-12-04 Thread Amanda du Plessis
Hey everyone

Today the 4th of December was a big day, as you probably know it was a total
eclipse today and you know what, it sucked!  The weather the day before was
great and we thought yeah, we're gonna get some nice photo's.  Me and a
friend drove out to and observetory and it had a live sattelite uplink with
the place in the umbra(musinna).  We drove out this morning at 05:54 to make
sure we get a nice spot.  To our  disappointment there was a thick blanket
of clouds and almost no wind!  We were just outside the umbra and was told
that we would have a 90% view.  The clouds are still here as I am typing
17:09(CAT) and now only is it sort of starting to clear up.  I think I got
about 4 photo's in total, when there was an open patch of sky.  Apparently
we actually got to see more of the eclipse than the people in the umbra
because they were totally clouded out and so was the rest of the path of
totality.  I sat the whole day yesterday making filters of and putting
different colors in and now that was a real waste!  O well, only another 28
years to wait! Then I'll be 43, so I think I'll still be here.

Cheers
Neil




Re: Re[4]: electra studio flash/ring flash

2002-12-04 Thread Dan Scott

On Wednesday, December 4, 2002, at 06:56  AM, Rob Studdert wrote:


On 3 Dec 2002 at 21:27, Dan Scott wrote:


Hey, just on a lark I looked at BH, they do sell CF studio lights for
high $$$. The price difference would certainly make me look at rolling
my own.


The main problem with using mains frequency fluorescent lamps is that 
since the phosphorescent materials have a relatively short persistence 
so the light output isn't relatively continuous like tungsten lamps, 
it flickers. This can send some camera meters crazy, my LX and E-10 
are both affected,
we are 50Hz here so the lamps flash 100 times per second. A lot of the 
commercial fluorescent light (cold lights) have special high frequency 
power sources, hence the often high costs.

Cheers,

 Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html


Hi Rob,

Electronic Ballasts are pretty cheap nowadays (here, anyway). I suspect 
the markup on the CF units on the ones purposed for photography is 
quite substantial.

Dan Scott



dogs are damn hard to shoot

2002-12-04 Thread CBWaters
My dogs are, shall we say, less than cooperative.  Any time you try to kneel
to get a better angle, they both trot right over and beg for a pat...

Just a rant.
go on with your day.

Cory Waters




Re: Yes I am

2002-12-04 Thread gfen
On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, frank theriault wrote:
 They probe me every night, anyway.  Except they have silver-grey skin.

Explains the bunny ears, eh?

;)

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Re: Pat White in American Photo/6x7

2002-12-04 Thread Albano Garcia
The vibration issue is supposedly with low shutters
speeds (from 1/30 to 1 second), and specially combined
with long lenses (wich I never plan to own or use).
To be honest, Dan, I still have to use the camera in
very good conditions. I shot few rolls, and all in not
the best conditions (almost-wideopen or wideopen,
fairly good speeds, or flash indoors with horrible
lighting setup). 
I want to take some shots with good light, a
respectable speed and f stop (ie 1/250 at f8) to start
making my own conclusions. By now, I'm satisfied with
the results (an example is
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1097688),
but I want to use it more before making my own
conclusions. I think the DOf is a real defying issue
in 6x7 (very scarce), and people saying the 105mm
sucks wide open, I think they are seeing images that
basically have zero dof. 
The quality beats 35mm, no doubt. The pic I showed
you, in a 8x10 is absolutely grainless, and I think it
can go 16x20 without problems. MF kicks 35mm ass when
you go bigger than 8x12. There, 35mm must be perfect
to keep reasonable, while MF, even not perfectly shot
can keep very well up to huge enlargements.
As I said, I need to use it more to make conclusions,
and to be honest I enjoy using my Rolleiflex a lot,
and the fact it weights the half, costs the sixth
part, has leaf shutter and no mirror slap, makes me
want to use the TLR more than La Gorda (the fat girl).
I think it fits my style more (shooting handheld in
the streets of a increasingly hardcore city). 
I keep the 6x7 because I like it, and want it to use
it when the situation is more controlled. Also I want
to make some paid jobs, and no matter how good
photographer you are, you can't appear in a session
with a 50 years old TLR. The 6x7 gives you credibility
and confidence to the client IMHO.
I would like to have at least one more lens, a wide
angle to broaden the possibilities of use (and dof). I
feel limited with the 105mm.
End of rambling.
Regards

Albano
--- Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks Albano.
 
 A question: even with the vibration the shots come
 out better than a 
 good 35mm with no vibration problems? How much
 better?
 
 Dan Scott
 
 On Wednesday, December 4, 2002, at 07:37  AM, Albano
 Garcia wrote:
 
  Hi, Dan
  Yes, film transport is an issue in old 6x7s. I own
 an
  old nonMLU body, and the film transport is a bit
  weared out. It leaves a lot of space between
 frames,
  sometimes cutting frame number 10 by half.
  Cosmetically it's like new, not a simple mark. And
  yes, I miss the MLU because I would like to use it
  always I can (in tripod, non moving subject). But
  since I mostly use it for handheld portraits, it's
 not
  that bad. I think it's worth it if you find it
 really
  cheap (as I did). If you really like the beast,
 you
  can buy another body (more modern, a 67 if
 possible)
  and use the earlier as a backup. That's what I
 would
  like to do, if I had money. but first I want more
  lenses... Somebody has a 55mm for 200 usd? :-)
  Regards
 
  Albano
 


=
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El Pibe Asahi

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Re: Winter Storm Warning

2002-12-04 Thread Dan Scott

On Wednesday, December 4, 2002, at 05:14  AM, Keith Whaley wrote:


You're right!
The next reasonable spell, I'd be at the realtors, putting my house up
for sale!

Where DO you live, Dan?

keith whaley


Dan Scott wrote:



= snipped =


It's just whatever you've acclimated to. I'm thinking you guys would
drop like flies if you had a month or two of  F 100+ weather and green
house humidity. g Heck, one March we had a daytime high 113 F. And 
it
wasn't dry heat, it was soaking wet two feet out the door heat. :-)


Keith,

San Antonio, Texas, USA. About 150 miles away from Mexico. Where the 
Texas Hill Country meets the Texas Coastal Plain. Cradle of Texas 
liberty (think the Alamo), nickname is the River City (because of the 
Riverwalk), Fort Sam Houston (army base, Teddy Roosevelt and the 
Roughriders, Geronimo), Randolph Field AFB, Lackland AFB, home of USAA 
(office building is larger than the Pentagon), the Spurs. Economy is 
based on tourism, and the military bases surrounding San Antonio. I 
think 5 years out of the last 6 have been in drought conditions. Cost 
of living is affordable, which is good 'cause wages are poor. I think 
we still lead the nation in teenage pregnancies.

No good Pentax shops at all.

Dan Scott



Re: dogs are damn hard to shoot

2002-12-04 Thread Ken Archer
This why I usually have someone to handle the dog and someone else to 
get their attention.

On Wednesday 04 December 2002 03:35 pm, CBWaters wrote:
 My dogs are, shall we say, less than cooperative.  Any time you try
 to kneel to get a better angle, they both trot right over and beg for
 a pat...

 Just a rant.
 go on with your day.

 Cory Waters

-- 
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San Antonio, Texas
Business Is Going To The Dogs




Re: dogs are damn hard to shoot

2002-12-04 Thread David Brooks
So is a 6 week old kitten.g
Carry on

Dave
 Begin Original Message 

From: CBWaters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 10:35:08 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: dogs are damn hard to shoot


My dogs are, shall we say, less than cooperative.  Any time you try 
to kneel
to get a better angle, they both trot right over and beg for a pat...

Just a rant.
go on with your day.

Cory Waters



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Re: any experiences with the ricoh 28-100mm, someone told me itwas made by pentax???

2002-12-04 Thread Andre Langevin
a good lens?
nice flare resistance?
sharpness?
was it made by pentax for ricoh?


I don't think it would have been made by Pentax.  Pentax did provide 
a few primes at the time of the XR series lenses (28/3.5  200/4 for 
sure, maybe others) but these were lenses already made by Pentax. 
There is nothing equivalent to the 28-100mm in what Pentax was 
offering.  But who knows?  Somebody???

Andre
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Re: ricoh 50mm 1.4 any experiences???

2002-12-04 Thread Andre Langevin
whats its bokeh like as good as pentax?



  Which Ricoh? There were two versions of 50/1.4 - rikenon XR (worse
 optically) and rikenon P (better)



its the xr


In Camerart (Japanese magazine written in english), I remember having 
seen a review of the XR.  They compared its image rendering to the 
Contax 50/1.4 and found it very pleasing.

I think this lens might have been made by Pentax as the specs are 
practically identical to the M lens.  At the time, Pentax was 
providing, at least, the XR 28/3.5 and the XR 200/4.

You need to compare both lenses side by side to judge.  Looking at 
the optics, internal baffling and coatings suite.

Andre
--



Re: Minolta Spotmeter F

2002-12-04 Thread Mark Erickson
Jeff (and Mike),

Thanks for the complement.  The Century Graphic is a 2.25x3.25 press
camera.  It will take pictures with sheet film, and Graflex rollfilm backs
and Mamiya RB67 backs can also be used to hold film.  I use rollfilm backs.
I took this shot with a Schneider Xenar 105mm F3.5 lens, Cokin red filter
(yeah, I'm cheap), on Kodak T400CN.  Pulled it into the computer with an
Epson 2450 scanner, did a little digital dodging and burning, and finally
virtually printed it on high-contrast paper (i.e., cranked up the contrast
a bit).  I only wish there were more clouds.

I'm also interested to hear why Mike thinks the Pentax meter is better than
the Minolta.  The one comparison that I can make is that the Minolta meter
has a plastic body and doesn't feel all that rugged.  Both Pentax meters
feel pretty bomber to me.  If I weren't cheap, I'd probably by a Zone VI
modified Pentax meter.  But I'm cheap.  Except for my MZ-S, FA* lenses, etc.
H

--Mark


Hi Mark,

Nice shot. Great tonality range. Is the Century Graphic a 4x5 or a
21/4x31/4
camera?

My exposure problems seem to arise in tricky lighting situations using
colour reversal film (Agfa RSX) and a Gossen Lunalite meter.

I'm in the process of acquiring a Minolta Spotmeter F. I hope it doesn't
elude me.

Jeff.




RE: Re[4]: electra studio flash/ring flash

2002-12-04 Thread Cotty
  On the subject of ringlights, didn't they use it for fashion
  shoots in the 80's. How did it work out then, any idea?

In the last 6 months on UK TV I have seen three different programmes that
were about or included current fashion photographers. In every case the
photographer used a ringlight at some point - it was only about a foot/18
inches across tho (still pretty big!).

Chris

Indeed, same here. It would seem that very bright, flat light stuffed 
right into models' faces is de riguer here. As Tony Hancock might say, 
very 'sheesh'...

Personally I dislike it  but I do have to say that it suits the look they 
are all trying to achieve which is presumably a featureless pouting 
visage drained of any colour and looking ready for a slab in the mortuary.

Let me have deep bronzed skin tones and full red lips anyday ;-)

Cotty


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Looking for a A35mmf/2

2002-12-04 Thread Cyril MARION
I'm looking for this lens. Does anyone has got one for sale (preferably in
Europe - Paris) ?

Thanks,

Cyril

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Re: Minolta Spotmeter F

2002-12-04 Thread Mike Johnston
 I'm also interested to hear why Mike thinks the Pentax meter is better than
 the Minolta.


I'll withdraw the comment. I don't know the specific Minolta meter under
discussion. I just have lots of memories of being irritated while futzing
with over-featured Minolta studio meters, and lots of memories of the
satisfying, straightforward Pentax spotmeter I used to own.

Funny and true story: a woman I knew once who taught classes in how to use
the top-of-the-line Minolta studio meter had to bone up on its operation and
features before every class she taught. The meter was so complicated she
couldn't remember everything about how to work it from one class to the
next.

--Mike




OT:Sucked in but still wanting to do a good job

2002-12-04 Thread David Brooks
A good friend is getting married in January 2003,he
for the 3rd time,she for the second.I now have the SP and
280t flash (smc m50 f1.7) on it for now.Hope to have the 
a 50 f1.7 before the wedding.
I have done a bit of experimentation with the  camera/flash combo
and m lens,flash on TTL and using several f stops on the 50
5.6 and 4 mostly.Test shots look good.
My ? is:
Would i be better of using the A lens for true TTL or
will i have just as much success with the M set at f4 or 5.6.
The request is for some simple shots,aisle,some alter and the
smootch etc.I plan on doing better than that ,but would Portra
160 NC be better in this case than VC.Location is a country club
setting with fireplace.Light unknown but probably good.
I got suckered in,how do you say no to a 6'2 big person.G

Thanks 
Dave



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Re: Re: Minolta Spotmeter F

2002-12-04 Thread David Brooks
Don't worry Jeff.We won't snipe yaG

Dave

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From: Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm in the process of acquiring a Minolta Spotmeter F. I hope it 
doesn't
elude me.

Jeff.




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Re: OT:Sucked in but still wanting to do a good job

2002-12-04 Thread Bruce Dayton
David,

It seems you are confused about the TTL.  I'm not sure what you mean
by True.  Basically TTL means that the camera body meters the film
plane for correct exposure and turns the flash off when there is
enough.  The big advantage is that you can choose any f-stop you want
within the power range of the flash.  Using an A lens on A setting
will only accomplish the camera setting the f-stop for you.  The net
difference of using an A lens set to 5.6 and an M lens set to 5.6 is
nothing.  Of course, letting the camera set the aperture for you
somewhat defeats the reason for TTL.  You could have just as easily
use the flash's sensor in A mode.

So, in summary, you don't need any A lenses to get TTL benefit.  Pick
your F-stop and go for it.


Bruce



Wednesday, December 4, 2002, 9:25:55 AM, you wrote:

DB A good friend is getting married in January 2003,he
DB for the 3rd time,she for the second.I now have the SP and
DB 280t flash (smc m50 f1.7) on it for now.Hope to have the 
DB a 50 f1.7 before the wedding.
DB I have done a bit of experimentation with the  camera/flash combo
DB and m lens,flash on TTL and using several f stops on the 50
DB 5.6 and 4 mostly.Test shots look good.
DB My ? is:
Would i be better of using the A lens for true TTL or
DB will i have just as much success with the M set at f4 or 5.6.
The request is for some simple shots,aisle,some alter and the
DB smootch etc.I plan on doing better than that ,but would Portra
DB 160 NC be better in this case than VC.Location is a country club
DB setting with fireplace.Light unknown but probably good.
I got suckered in,how do you say no to a 6'2 big person.G

DB Thanks 
DB Dave



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Re: Question #1: Price request

2002-12-04 Thread Pentxuser
I suspect you are talking about the equivalent of the Vivitar 2xmacro 
convertor. I have this convertor and it is A) a very good convertor in its 
own right. B) Even better because it has the helicoid which makes it an 
exceptional cose-up tool. I paid about $100 Cdn. --$60U.S. for it. I don't 
think a Panagor model would sell for that high a price, but I suspect it is 
the same thing. I could be wrong...
Vic 




Re: OT:Sucked in but still wanting to do a good job

2002-12-04 Thread Mat Maessen
A somewhat stupid side question to all of this...
Does the exposure compensation knob on the SuperProgram do anything when in
the TTL flash mode?
i.e., can you use it to compensate the exposure the same way that you do
when metering a normal scene?
I ask, because the times I tend to use flash usually involve taking
pictures of women in black velvet dresses, which REALLY throws the metering
off.

-Mat




Re[2]: OT:Sucked in but still wanting to do a good job

2002-12-04 Thread Bruce Dayton
Mat,

It has been a long time since I used the SuperProgram, but I believe
the answer is yes.  Treat it just as if you were metering without the
flash.  You are pointing out the real downfall of TTL flash - that is,
it has the same metering problems as a program mode, namely, it
doesn't know what it is metering.  Just looking for the old 18% grey.
Black or white turn out poorly without some control from the
photographer.

If there are any current SuperProgram owners out there who know for
sure, please chime in.

Bruce



Wednesday, December 4, 2002, 10:01:06 AM, you wrote:

MM A somewhat stupid side question to all of this...
MM Does the exposure compensation knob on the SuperProgram do anything when in
MM the TTL flash mode?
MM i.e., can you use it to compensate the exposure the same way that you do
MM when metering a normal scene?
MM I ask, because the times I tend to use flash usually involve taking
MM pictures of women in black velvet dresses, which REALLY throws the metering
MM off.

MM -Mat




Provia 100F vs. Astia 100

2002-12-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
Having been a Kodak user for many years, I'm not very familiar with Fuji
transparency films. However, I've been trying some different
transparency films just to see what's out there. How do Provia 100F and
Astia 100 compare in terms of sharpness, saturation, and grain?
Paul Stenquist




RE: Provia 100F vs. Astia 100

2002-12-04 Thread Rob Brigham
Astia is muted and coldish, Provia is just slightly saturated and
warmish.
Grain and sharpness on Provia is streets ahead.
Lattitude of Provia is much better too IMO.

Astia is said to be the same emulsion as Sensia, but is slightly better
IMO - possibly because of better storage and controls.


 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: 04 December 2002 18:25
 To: Pentax Discuss
 Subject: Provia 100F vs. Astia 100
 
 
 Having been a Kodak user for many years, I'm not very 
 familiar with Fuji transparency films. However, I've been 
 trying some different transparency films just to see what's 
 out there. How do Provia 100F and Astia 100 compare in terms 
 of sharpness, saturation, and grain? Paul Stenquist
 
 




Fill-in Flash with AF200T

2002-12-04 Thread Cotty
I had an email from a guy called Steve Morphet who has modified his 
AF200T flash so that it can be 'switched' between normal and fill-in 
flash. He has kindly done some drawings and diagrams (much neater than 
mine :-) and you can see for yourself if you like

http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps

and navigate your way through Gear Mods, or

http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/mods/flashmod/flashmod.html

will get you right there. Page takes a minute to load

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Re: OT:Sucked in but still wanting to do a good job

2002-12-04 Thread brooksdj
Thanks Bruce.
I quess what i meant by True was having the lens in
A setting and let the camera do its thing.Poor choice of a 
word i quess.
From what i saw with the M lens the flash/camera seemed to do what 
its supposed to.They were junk shots but looked fine.
Any thoughts on the film.I am humming between Portra 160 VC or Nc or Kodak RG 200.

Dave   

 David,
 
 It seems you are confused about the TTL.  I'm not sure what you mean
 by True.  Basically TTL means that the camera body meters the film
 plane for correct exposure and turns the flash off when there is
 enough.  The big advantage is that you can choose any f-stop you want
 within the power range of the flash.  Using an A lens on A setting
 will only accomplish the camera setting the f-stop for you.  The net
 difference of using an A lens set to 5.6 and an M lens set to 5.6 is
 nothing.  Of course, letting the camera set the aperture for you
 somewhat defeats the reason for TTL.  You could have just as easily
 use the flash's sensor in A mode.
 
 So, in summary, you don't need any A lenses to get TTL benefit.  Pick
 your F-stop and go for it.
 
 
 Bruce
 
 
 






Re: Question #2: Macro related

2002-12-04 Thread Andre Langevin
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Is it a good idea to buy macro filter set?


how much sharpness are you willing to lose? according to many people,
either a real macro lens, extension tubes, or the Canon or Nikon
multielement closeup lenses are the only real choices for high quality
results.

Herb...


For the 50/1,7 with a 49mm ring, the Minolta lenses are the ones to 
look for.   About 10-15$ each on eBay.  There are three: no 0, no 1 
and no 2.  They were made in 49mm, 52mm and 55mm.  Achromatic 
(2-lenses) with... achromatic coating.  That's the way Minolta 
called their pre-multi-coating (2 coatings).

Andre
--



Re: OT:Sucked in but still wanting to do a good job

2002-12-04 Thread Michael Cross
I would definitely use Portra 160NC.  It is the best film that I have 
found for people with natural looking skintones.  Colors are very nice 
and accurate.  If you order the imported version from BH, its about $3 
a roll.  

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks Bruce.
I quess what i meant by True was having the lens in
A setting and let the camera do its thing.Poor choice of a 
word i quess.
From what i saw with the M lens the flash/camera seemed to do what 
its supposed to.They were junk shots but looked fine.
Any thoughts on the film.I am humming between Portra 160 VC or Nc or Kodak RG 200.

Dave   

   David,
 

It seems you are confused about the TTL.  I'm not sure what you mean
by True.  Basically TTL means that the camera body meters the film
plane for correct exposure and turns the flash off when there is
enough.  The big advantage is that you can choose any f-stop you want
within the power range of the flash.  Using an A lens on A setting
will only accomplish the camera setting the f-stop for you.  The net
difference of using an A lens set to 5.6 and an M lens set to 5.6 is
nothing.  Of course, letting the camera set the aperture for you
somewhat defeats the reason for TTL.  You could have just as easily
use the flash's sensor in A mode.

So, in summary, you don't need any A lenses to get TTL benefit.  Pick
your F-stop and go for it.


Bruce



   

			



 






Re: Looking for a A35mmf/2

2002-12-04 Thread Andre Langevin
I'm looking for this lens. Does anyone has got one for sale (preferably in
Europe - Paris) ?

Thanks,

Cyril


Quel arrondissement?  (Juste une blague...)

Check on eBay, it is an uncommon lens.  If you want one, be prepared 
to buy it from anywhere...  If you're opened to the possibility of 
using the M version, it will be easier to find one.

André
--



Re: OT Winter Storm Warning

2002-12-04 Thread Bill Owens
And here I thought you were in Canada, Frank.  You're describing most North
Carolina drivers with this statement.

Bill

 And, of course, knowing how to drive properly in low-traction situations
helps, too - funny how when it does snow around here, so many drivers fail
to reduce speed,
 brake and turn more gently, and leave much more distance between
themselves and the vehicle ahead of them.  When it does snow (especially the
first snow of the year),
 the number of accidents is astounding.

 cheers,
 frank







Re: Re[4]: electra studio flash/ring flash

2002-12-04 Thread Feroze Kistan
That still has to cost some serious money,
probally more than a working class guy like
me can afford :)
Feroze

- Original Message - 
From: Chris Stoddart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 12:03 PM
Subject: RE: Re[4]: electra studio flash/ring flash


 
   On the subject of ringlights, didn't they use it for fashion
   shoots in the 80's. How did it work out then, any idea?
 
 In the last 6 months on UK TV I have seen three different programmes that
 were about or included current fashion photographers. In every case the
 photographer used a ringlight at some point - it was only about a foot/18
 inches across tho (still pretty big!).
 
 Chris
 
 




Re: Re[4]: electra studio flash/ring flash

2002-12-04 Thread Feroze Kistan
Hi Rob

Oh it is a bit clumsy but I kind worked out a
system , but I want to make my life eaiser
thats why I want to get studio lights. Have
never used a meter before, mostly relied on the
camera to do it. Now my K1000's meter's gone
a bit wonky, don't know what happend its just
not reading right, hope Pentax can repair it. They told
me its a common problem though. Still learning
the MZS.

How difficult is it to learn to use a meter?

Thanks
Feroze

- Original Message -
From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 3:58 AM
Subject: Re: Re[4]: electra studio flash/ring flash


 On 3 Dec 2002 at 22:10, Feroze Kistan wrote:

  Hi Rob,
  Good point, my main idea is to get lights that are low
  power so that the give off minimal heat so as not to damage
  the product, they are provided by the client and if I trash it
  I pay for it. Right now I use the table outdoors and use
  white sheets to reflect the light from the back or bottom.
  Lights good this side-about 200 days a year of it.
  Wont I be reducing the effectivesness of the flash
  with a softbox? Is there a formula to calculate the amount
  of light loss or is it eaiser to bracket widely?

 Hi Feroze,

 Whilst I appreciate the use of natural light your system seems like it
would be
 nightmare to balance? A diffuser will lose you around 1.25 to 1.75 stops I
 guess. Have you considered employing an ambient/flash meter to determine
 appropriate exposure settings? Once you learn to use a good meter you only
tend
 to need to bracket a little for really wide contrast range subjects.

 Cheers,

 Rob Studdert
 HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
 Tel +61-2-9554-4110
 UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html








Re: OT:Sucked in but still wanting to do a good job

2002-12-04 Thread Lon Williamson
Yup.  The exposure compensation knob affects flash.
Nice, eh?

Mat Maessen wrote:
 
 A somewhat stupid side question to all of this...
 Does the exposure compensation knob on the SuperProgram do anything when in
 the TTL flash mode?
 i.e., can you use it to compensate the exposure the same way that you do
 when metering a normal scene?
 I ask, because the times I tend to use flash usually involve taking
 pictures of women in black velvet dresses, which REALLY throws the metering
 off.
 
 -Mat




Optio 330 GS firmware update

2002-12-04 Thread Cotty
Pentax Optio 330GS firmware update posted - details on

http://www.dpreview.com/

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Re[2]: OT:Sucked in but still wanting to do a good job

2002-12-04 Thread Bruce Dayton
Dave,

For weddings I use Portra 160NC or 400NC.  The 400 will sometimes give
you just a little more ambient room light, which looks better than the
person standing in the dark type of shot.

At weddings you are really looking for flesh tones and low contrast
due to dark/black tuxes and white wedding dress.  From the Kodak camp
Portra NC is the preferred wedding film.  Fuji has pretty similar
films too.  I have found that it has as much to do with the lab as
anything.  Find out what film your lab prefers (Kodak Portra or Fuji
NP) and go with that.


Bruce



Tuesday, December 3, 2002, 9:43:07 PM, you wrote:

bcin Thanks Bruce.
bcin I quess what i meant by True was having the lens in
bcin A setting and let the camera do its thing.Poor choice of a 
bcin word i quess.
bcin From what i saw with the M lens the flash/camera seemed to do what 
bcin its supposed to.They were junk shots but looked fine.
bcin Any thoughts on the film.I am humming between Portra 160 VC or Nc or Kodak RG 
200.

bcin Dave   

bcin  David,
 
 It seems you are confused about the TTL.  I'm not sure what you mean
 by True.  Basically TTL means that the camera body meters the film
 plane for correct exposure and turns the flash off when there is
 enough.  The big advantage is that you can choose any f-stop you want
 within the power range of the flash.  Using an A lens on A setting
 will only accomplish the camera setting the f-stop for you.  The net
 difference of using an A lens set to 5.6 and an M lens set to 5.6 is
 nothing.  Of course, letting the camera set the aperture for you
 somewhat defeats the reason for TTL.  You could have just as easily
 use the flash's sensor in A mode.
 
 So, in summary, you don't need any A lenses to get TTL benefit.  Pick
 your F-stop and go for it.
 
 
 Bruce
 
 
 




Re[6]: electra studio flash/ring flash

2002-12-04 Thread Bruce Dayton
Feroze,

For flash work, if you can take the time to meter, using a hand held
meter is oodles better than anything else.  I use a Gossen Digital
Luna Pro F and it measures flash plus ambient light.  Just set the ISO
and shutter synch speed and then hold the meter at subject position
and fire the flashes.  The readout gives you the f stop to use.  Set
the camera and fire away.  The nicety is that you don't have to deal
with reflectivity of the subject and compensate.


Bruce



Wednesday, December 4, 2002, 8:20:19 AM, you wrote:

FK Hi Rob

FK Oh it is a bit clumsy but I kind worked out a
FK system , but I want to make my life eaiser
FK thats why I want to get studio lights. Have
FK never used a meter before, mostly relied on the
FK camera to do it. Now my K1000's meter's gone
FK a bit wonky, don't know what happend its just
FK not reading right, hope Pentax can repair it. They told
FK me its a common problem though. Still learning
FK the MZS.

FK How difficult is it to learn to use a meter?

FK Thanks
FK Feroze

FK - Original Message -
FK From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FK To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FK Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 3:58 AM
FK Subject: Re: Re[4]: electra studio flash/ring flash


 On 3 Dec 2002 at 22:10, Feroze Kistan wrote:

  Hi Rob,
  Good point, my main idea is to get lights that are low
  power so that the give off minimal heat so as not to damage
  the product, they are provided by the client and if I trash it
  I pay for it. Right now I use the table outdoors and use
  white sheets to reflect the light from the back or bottom.
  Lights good this side-about 200 days a year of it.
  Wont I be reducing the effectivesness of the flash
  with a softbox? Is there a formula to calculate the amount
  of light loss or is it eaiser to bracket widely?

 Hi Feroze,

 Whilst I appreciate the use of natural light your system seems like it
FK would be
 nightmare to balance? A diffuser will lose you around 1.25 to 1.75 stops I
 guess. Have you considered employing an ambient/flash meter to determine
 appropriate exposure settings? Once you learn to use a good meter you only
FK tend
 to need to bracket a little for really wide contrast range subjects.

 Cheers,

 Rob Studdert
 HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
 Tel +61-2-9554-4110
 UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html






Re: dogs are damn hard to shoot

2002-12-04 Thread WBeard

Tell me about it.

I have one (12 week old pup) who just runs straight at the camera,
one who turns his head away
and another who turns her ears sideways.

A photo of the three of them together? Forget it!

Wendy
 Begin Original Message 

From: CBWaters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 10:35:08 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: dogs are damn hard to shoot


My dogs are, shall we say, less than cooperative.  Any time you try
to kneel
to get a better angle, they both trot right over and beg for a pat...

Just a rant.
go on with your day.

Cory Waters
---
Wendy Beard
Mosaid Technologies Inc
11 Hines Rd, Kanata,
Ontario K2K 2X1, Canada
Tel: +1 613 599 9539 x1676
Fax +1 613 591 8148





Re: Provia 100F vs. Astia 100

2002-12-04 Thread Bill D. Casselberry
Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
 Having been a Kodak user for many years, I'm not very familiar with Fuji
 transparency films. .  How do Provia 100F and Astia 100 compare 

I haven't used these, but have run a modest amount of the
Provia 400F through my 6x7 and like it. Good color, fine grain
and a couple extra stops of aperture/shutterspeed. I would say
the Provia 100 would also be nice, from what I've heard of it.

I tend towards the E100vs for 100asa film, though.

Bill


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http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb
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Re: Re: Minolta Spotmeter F

2002-12-04 Thread Jeff
Not an ebay sale. I already Paypal'd the guy.
Hope he doesn't stiff me.

Jeff.
PS: We'll keep you posted.

- Original Message - 
From: David Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Minolta Spotmeter F 


 Don't worry Jeff.We won't snipe yaG
 
 Dave
 
  Begin Original Message 
 
 From: Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I'm in the process of acquiring a Minolta Spotmeter F. I hope it 
 doesn't
 elude me.
 
 Jeff.
 
 
 
 
  End Original Message 
 
 
 
 
 Pentax User
 Stouffville Ontario Canada
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Re: Provia 100F vs. Astia 100

2002-12-04 Thread Jeff
I've used a few rolls of Agfa RSX II 50  100. Love it.
The secret is in the proc
- Original Message -
From: Bill D. Casselberry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: Provia 100F vs. Astia 100


 Paul Stenquist wrote:

  Having been a Kodak user for many years, I'm not very familiar with Fuji
  transparency films. .  How do Provia 100F and Astia 100 compare

 I haven't used these, but have run a modest amount of the
 Provia 400F through my 6x7 and like it. Good color, fine grain
 and a couple extra stops of aperture/shutterspeed. I would say
 the Provia 100 would also be nice, from what I've heard of it.

 I tend towards the E100vs for 100asa film, though.

 Bill


 -
 Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast

 http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 -





Re: Re: Minolta Spotmeter F

2002-12-04 Thread Jeff
Sorry for the double post. My computer hiccupped.

I've used a few rolls of Agfa RSX II 50  100. Love it.
The secret is in the processing.

Jeff.

- Original Message - 
From: Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Minolta Spotmeter F 


 Not an ebay sale. I already Paypal'd the guy.
 Hope he doesn't stiff me.
 
 Jeff.
 PS: We'll keep you posted.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: David Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 12:39 PM
 Subject: Re: Re: Minolta Spotmeter F 
 
 
  Don't worry Jeff.We won't snipe yaG
  
  Dave
  
   Begin Original Message 
  
  From: Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  I'm in the process of acquiring a Minolta Spotmeter F. I hope it 
  doesn't
  elude me.
  
  Jeff.
  
  
  
  
   End Original Message 
  
  
  
  
  Pentax User
  Stouffville Ontario Canada
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Re: Provia 100F vs. Astia 100

2002-12-04 Thread Jeff
Ill get it right yet.

I've used a few rolls of Agfa RSX II 50  100. Love it.
The secret is in the processing

Jeff.

PS: sorry for the cross posting. I'll have to disable the touchpad from my
laptop.

- Original Message -
From: Bill D. Casselberry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: Provia 100F vs. Astia 100


 Paul Stenquist wrote:

  Having been a Kodak user for many years, I'm not very familiar with Fuji
  transparency films. .  How do Provia 100F and Astia 100 compare

 I haven't used these, but have run a modest amount of the
 Provia 400F through my 6x7 and like it. Good color, fine grain
 and a couple extra stops of aperture/shutterspeed. I would say
 the Provia 100 would also be nice, from what I've heard of it.

 I tend towards the E100vs for 100asa film, though.

 Bill


 -
 Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast

 http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 -





Re[6]: electra studio flash/ring flash

2002-12-04 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
There is no reason to think that a hand held meter is more accurate than the
one built into the camera. It is all a mater of how meters, and instruments
in general, are used. They measure exactly what they are designed to
measure, and if they are working properly, will do it accurately. People get
into trouble because they don't understand what is really being measured,
and then blame the instrument for poor results.
Using manual flash calculations with guide numbers, distances and f-stops is
also fool proof. There is a reason why many wedding photographers still use
manual flash particularly for candids. The world is not a photo studio and
incident light/flash meters are not always practical.

BR

From: Feroze Kistan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Would this technique, which sounds foolproof,
apply to handheld meters in general then?
I'm getting the impression that they are more accurate
than using the cameras onboard meters is this correct?




RE: More Pentax stuff for auction

2002-12-04 Thread J. C. O'Connell
oops apologies for my previous email.
It was obviously supposed to be private.
I hate when that happens.
JCO




Re[3]: OT:Sucked in but still wanting to do a good job

2002-12-04 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi,

 I would definitely use Portra 160NC.  It is the best film that I have
 found for people with natural looking skintones.

I guess that excludes George Hamilton and Michael Jackson then... g

---

 Bob  




Re: Minolta Spotmeter F

2002-12-04 Thread Rob Studdert
On 4 Dec 2002 at 7:44, Jeff wrote:

 What about landscape photography with Positive film?
 That's what I need the Spotmeter for.

Jeff,

The Spotmeter F has a few functions that are specifically there to support 
colour positive shooting. It has two buttons, Highlight and Shadow and the 
action of these buttons is to add an exposure offset which will pull metered 
highlights or shadows into the range of most slide films, quite handy in some 
instances.

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html




Re: Fill-in Flash with AF200T

2002-12-04 Thread Cotty
 I had an email from a guy called Steve Morphet who has modified his
 AF200T flash so that it can be 'switched' between normal and fill-in
 flash. He has kindly done some drawings and diagrams (much neater than
 mine :-) and you can see for yourself if you like


What? No robots. No spaceships? That drawing is just a drawing. Where 
is the soul? The passion? The Art?

Yeah, but he's a normal regular guy :-)

Cot


Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at
http://www.macads.co.uk/

Oh, swipe me! He paints with light!
http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/





RE: Photo ops in Oz

2002-12-04 Thread Simon King
Hi Bill,
It's not really a special photo op. Australian women never wear clothes
unless they're on TV. Us blokes only wear Akubra hats. 
We've become quite inventive in finding places to store those spare
lenses...
Simon


Bill Owens wrote:
I just saw on CNN that some Australian women are going to dance naked
in the Outback to end the drought.  Any of you Aussies going to be there
with your Pentaxes?




Re: That 6X7 mirror slap

2002-12-04 Thread Bill Lawlor
The vibration issue is supposedly with low shutters
speeds (from 1/30 to 1 second), and specially combined
with long lenses (wich I never plan to own or use)


Shooting handheld with the old 6X7 it actually jumped in my hands. The best
shot I ever made was a sunset on Lake Champlain where, having no tripod, I
set the camera on a park bench, put my hat over the lens, opened the
shutter with a cable release, removed the hat, counted to ten, replaced the
hat over the lens and closed the shutter. Who needs MLU?

Eventually, I too converted to Rolleiflex and Fuji 645 and 690 rangefinders.

Bill Lawlor





Re: Re[4]: electra studio flash/ring flash

2002-12-04 Thread Dan Scott

On Wednesday, December 4, 2002, at 01:46  PM, Feroze Kistan wrote:


I don't think so, I need a flat continous light source that dosn't 
give off
too
much heat, if one is flicking on and off at 1/100 a sec I think I 
would only
be getting
half the light at any given moment most likely with my luck just as the
shutter opens

Feroze


Quality electronic ballasts flicker at extremely high rates, not the 
low rates of magnetic/tar ballasts. I would be very surprised if a 
camera would be bothered by one. But a simple test would be to find a 
CF fixture and take a shot of it.

Dan Scott



Re: Question #2: Macro related

2002-12-04 Thread Kenneth Waller
N*K*N sells 2 element diopter close up lenses in several strengths (5T,
6T) all I believe are 58mm. The two element diopter is supposed to be
superior (sharper images) than the single element. Haven't done any testing
but I have used the N*K*N diopters for several years and have no complaints.
Ken Waller
- Original Message -
From: Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: Question #2: Macro related


 I tried to buy the Sigmal 58mm 2-element about 6 months
 ago and NOBODY had it in stock.  I think it may have been
 discontinued.

 I've got a 2-element diopter (came with the Phoenix 100mm
 f3.5 Macro), and it works quite well.  Many people think
 that the 2-element diopters are the way to go:  they certainly
 take up less space than tubes or TCs.

 -Lon

 Boris Liberman wrote:
 
  Hi!
 
  Is it a good idea to buy macro filter set? There're two options - 58
  mm for Sigma that can go to f/32 in 135 mm giving supposedly more DOF,
  or 49 mm for 50/1.7. I am leaning towards 49 mm because I hope to
  collect more Pentax primes that feature same filter thread. Or such
  thing is not worth the money anyway - poor optical quality... What do
  you say?
 
  Thanks in advance.
 
  ---
  Boris Liberman
  www.geocities.com/dunno57
  www.photosig.com/viewuser.php?id=38625






Re:Provia/Astia

2002-12-04 Thread Bill Lawlor
 How do Provia 100F and
Astia 100 compare in terms of sharpness, saturation, and grain?
Paul Stenquist



Paul,  The current  RDPIII/Provia 100F has less contrast and saturation
than RVP Velvia 50, but the grain is as fine as the slower Velvia.
RAP/Astia is balanced for flesh tones and is an excellent all-around color
slide film showing less saturation and contrast than Provia 100F. Grain is
a bit more coarse than Provia but should not be a problem under 16X20
enlargements from 35mm. Sensia 100/RA is said to be Astia sold at a lower
price as an amateur film. Sensia 200/RM is altogether , IMO, inferior to
any of the aforementioned films. As a practical matter, in my experience,
Astia lets you retain some shadow detail in shots that would have black
shadows on Velvia or Provia and is a good portrait film.

Bill Lawlor






Re: dogs are damn hard to shoot

2002-12-04 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: CBWaters
Subject: dogs are damn hard to shoot


 My dogs are, shall we say, less than cooperative.  Any time
you try to kneel
 to get a better angle, they both trot right over and beg for a
pat...

As solid stay command is a beautiful thing.

William Robb





Re: dogs are damn hard to shoot

2002-12-04 Thread Shaun Canning
Try that with a Maremma and they look at you like you have gone 
completely insaneand go in the compete opposite direction.

Cheers

Shaun

William Robb wrote:
- Original Message -
From: CBWaters
Subject: dogs are damn hard to shoot




My dogs are, shall we say, less than cooperative.  Any time


you try to kneel


to get a better angle, they both trot right over and beg for a


pat...

As solid stay command is a beautiful thing.

William Robb


.




--

Shaun Canning
Cultural Heritage Services 		
High Street, Broadford,
Victoria, 3658.

www.heritageservices.com.au/

Phone: 0414-967644
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


My images can be seen at www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=238096







OT: SCSI and XP:( was RE: Hp scanner, printers whatever, they're all bad!)

2002-12-04 Thread John Coyle
I might add just one comment to this.  With SCSI interface peripherals, 
the documentation will almost always tell you to turn the devices on 
before the computer, and off after the computer.  After nearly tearing 
my hair out installing a SCSI scanner a few years ago, when the 
computer simply would not talk to the scanner, I tried turning the 
computer on first, then the SCSI device during the boot-up process - lo 
and behold, it worked!  This procedure was not necessary after the 
installation was completed, and it now all handshakes perfectly 
following the recommended sequence.

Incidentally, I've just finished upgrading one of my PC's to XP, and 
let me recommend to anyone wanting to do this that you ensure you get 
your updated drivers _first_ and save a _lot_ of frustration.  Highly 
recommended is www.driverguide.com, where you will be able to obtain 
many drivers for devices no longer supported by the manufacturers. 
 Also very useful is winS3id.exe, which will tell you the exact name 
and version of your video adapter card.

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia


On Wednesday, December 04, 2002 9:44 AM, Doug Franklin 
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
 Hi Len,

 On Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:22:03 -0600, Len Paris wrote:

  Good advice, Doug. You can't go wrong using this sequence though,
  so
  far, I've had no problems turning the printer on after the computer
  is
  already running.  Turning the printer on first and then booting the
  computer can't hurt anything and might assure better handshaking, 
as
  you
  say.  I may take a the new habit, myself.

SNIP

 TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ




Re: Minolta Spotmeter F

2002-12-04 Thread Jeff
Hi Rob and all other members who helped me decide,

The meter is on it's way. It's going to miss Hanukah, but I'll have plenty
of time to learn it's intricacies.
I know about it's features, I'm just going to have to learn how to use them.
That's a half of the fun in photography.

Cheers,
Jeff

- Original Message -
From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: Minolta Spotmeter F


 On 4 Dec 2002 at 7:44, Jeff wrote:

  What about landscape photography with Positive film?
  That's what I need the Spotmeter for.

 Jeff,

 The Spotmeter F has a few functions that are specifically there to support
 colour positive shooting. It has two buttons, Highlight and Shadow and the
 action of these buttons is to add an exposure offset which will pull
metered
 highlights or shadows into the range of most slide films, quite handy in
some
 instances.

 Cheers,

 Rob Studdert
 HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
 Tel +61-2-9554-4110
 UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html





Re: OT Winter Storm Warning

2002-12-04 Thread Doug Franklin
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 09:34:21 -0500, Bill Owens wrote:

 And here I thought you were in Canada, Frank.  You're describing most North
 Carolina drivers with this statement.

  when it does snow around here, so many drivers fail to reduce
  speed, brake and turn more gently, and leave much more distance

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm
not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein


TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ





Re: Just a little P***ed Off!

2002-12-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'm sorry to hear that this thing has turned sour. It was very
thoughtful on your part, and I share your displeasure in learning that
someone on the list provoked Tom. I'm also somewhat dismayed that Tom
would complain without first inquiring.
Paul

frank theriault wrote:
 
 Excuse me for venting, but I'm going to anyway.
 
 Got an e-mail from Graywolf today, asking what's up with money that I
 was collecting on his behalf from list members.  It seems that someone
 (a list member, but I don't know who) told him that I've dropped off
 the list, and since Tom hadn't heard from me in a week or two (I've
 been waiting for enough money to come in to make it worth sending Tom a
 cheque), he was getting worried.
 
 In fact, we've collected over $600, and a first cheque will be ready to
 go by Friday for about $400 (the balance, being personal cheques from
 the US, will take 25 days to clear my account).
 
 I'm just wondering who would have told Tom that?  Geez, I usually post
 at least once or more per day (I know it's usually drivel, but it's
 there!).  Whoever it is, do you think you could have contacted me,
 before telling Tom that I've dropped out of sight?  This really leaves a
 bad taste in my mouth - poor Tom was needlessly worried that everyone on
 the list, along with him might be in the process of being scammed (to
 use a word that he did).  I'm really pissed off!!
 
 If the person who spread this malicious rumour reads this, I'd ~really~
 like you to contact me off list with an explanation of your actions.
 Beware, I might have a few choice words for you!
 
 -frank
 
 --
 The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The
 pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert
 Oppenheimer




Re: That 6X7 mirror slap

2002-12-04 Thread Paul Stenquist


Bill Lawlor wrote:

 Shooting handheld with the old 6X7 it actually jumped in my hands. 

I find that vibration isn't a problem when shooting handheld at speeds
as slow as 1/60. The hands do a good job of dampening the vibration. The
6x7 vibration problem is most evident when using flimsy tripods with
hard mating surfaces. 
Paul Stenquist




Re: Just a little P***ed Off!

2002-12-04 Thread frank theriault
I think that Tom was just inquiring.  I hadn't been in contact with him for a
couple of weeks, and he wanted to know what's up.  I bear him no ill will.

It was his indication that he had information that I'd dropped off the list
that angered me.  He obviously got it from someone, because if he'd checked
the archives, he's see my frequent posts.  I'm just curious as to who that
someone is, and why they would pass something like that to Tom.

I'm sure that Tom was quite dismayed to hear that information, so I can't
blame him for his inquiry.

I really don't feel that anything regarding the effort in and of itself has
gone sour.  We've gathered a good deal of money, and Tom will soon be getting
it.  That's the important thing.

Of course, maybe I'm just being overly sensitive, and shouldn't worry about
it.  There may be an innocent explanation;  I'm all ears!  vbg

thanks, Paul,
frank



Paul Stenquist wrote:

 I'm sorry to hear that this thing has turned sour. It was very
 thoughtful on your part, and I share your displeasure in learning that
 someone on the list provoked Tom. I'm also somewhat dismayed that Tom
 would complain without first inquiring.
 Paul



--
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
fears it is true. -J. Robert
Oppenheimer





Re: Just a little P***ed Off!

2002-12-04 Thread Paul Jones
Ditto.

I share your displeasure in learning that
 someone on the list provoked Tom. I'm also somewhat dismayed that Tom
 would complain without first inquiring.

Regards,
Paul Jones





Re: OT: SCSI and XP:( was RE: Hp scanner, printers whatever, they're all bad!)

2002-12-04 Thread Doug Franklin
Hi John,

On Thu, 5 Dec 2002 08:20:53 -, John Coyle wrote:

 This procedure was not necessary after the 
 installation was completed, and it now all handshakes perfectly 
 following the recommended sequence.

Yep, I've been bitten by that before, too.  But it's few and far
between, and it generally only affects installation of the device
rather than its ongoing operation.  As with anything else computer, if
it doesn't work the first four or five times, try anything else you can
think of. :-)

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ





Re: OT Winter Storm Warning

2002-12-04 Thread frank theriault
Musta missed Bill's post from earlier today.  Hmmm...

Hey Doug, that's a great quote!  It may someday replace my little quote from J.
Robert that I now use.  g

cheers,
frank

Doug Franklin wrote:

 On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 09:34:21 -0500, Bill Owens wrote:

  And here I thought you were in Canada, Frank.  You're describing most North
  Carolina drivers with this statement.

   when it does snow around here, so many drivers fail to reduce
   speed, brake and turn more gently, and leave much more distance

 Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm
 not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein

 TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

--
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears
it is true. -J. Robert
Oppenheimer





Re: OT Winter Storm Warning

2002-12-04 Thread Doug Franklin
On Wed, 04 Dec 2002 18:09:56 -0500, frank theriault wrote:

 Hey Doug, that's a great quote!

  Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm
  not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein

Herr Einstein had quite penetrating observations about all sorts of
stuff beyond physics.  He's one of the most interesting people I've
ever studied.  Here's a very interesting recent article on him.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/021209/misc/9einstein.htm


TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ





Re: Re[4]: electra studio flash/ring flash

2002-12-04 Thread Mark Roberts
Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Let me have deep bronzed skin tones and full red lips anyday ;-)

Mightn't you wish for a bit more hair while you're at it?

and huge pectoral muscles, rippling abs...

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com




Re: OT: SCSI and XP:( was RE: Hp scanner, printers whatever, they're all bad!)

2002-12-04 Thread Mark Roberts
John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I might add just one comment to this.  With SCSI interface peripherals, 
the documentation will almost always tell you to turn the devices on 
before the computer, and off after the computer.

You can also turn on most SCSI devices *after* the computer is booted and
get the computer to recognize them by following the procedure described
here: http://www.scantips.com/scsitip.html#boot


-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com




Re: Toronto this weekend.

2002-12-04 Thread Brendan
 I have a visitor to baby sit, I'll drag them out lol.

__ 
Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca




Well it's about time!

2002-12-04 Thread Brad Dobo
I finally picked up my CS-130.  Glad that is over with.  I haven't been in
the store the past while and now Pentax has 1/3rd of a display case, with
Minolta getting the other 2/3.  What did they have?  A MZ-60 with the new
28-105 on it.  That was it.  A telephoto zoom 100-300 too I think.  They
didn't even need 1/3.  Sad.

**
Brad W. Dobo, HBA (Eds.)
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ#: 1658




Re: OT Winter Storm Warning

2002-12-04 Thread frank theriault
Thanks for the article, Doug.  Don't know as much about Albert as I should.
I've bookmarked it, and will look at it at my leisure.

cheers,
frank

Doug Franklin wrote:

 Herr Einstein had quite penetrating observations about all sorts of
 stuff beyond physics.  He's one of the most interesting people I've
 ever studied.  Here's a very interesting recent article on him.

 http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/021209/misc/9einstein.htm

 TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

--
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
fears it is true. -J. Robert
Oppenheimer





Who has switched to Pentax and why?

2002-12-04 Thread Lon Williamson
For me, Pentax was a no-brainer.  My wife shot a K-1000 as a reporter
for half a decade, so when I got the bug, I studied a little bit,
and the PDML more than anything put me in K-mount.  My first camera
was a KM, and I was hooked.

Those of you who have dabbled in the NCMO world, why are you here now?

Hi, my name is Farmina Manahesh Robertson, and I shoot Pentax because
__

-Lon




Re: OT: SCSI and XP:( was RE: Hp scanner, printers whatever, they're all bad!)

2002-12-04 Thread Lon Williamson
Having been a Software Engineer most of my adult life
(and at FIRST, loving it), I can only say that EyeOfNewt
and WingOfBat apply way to strongly to computers.  And smart
cameras.

Now where's me KX?  THAR's a camera without brains.


Mark Roberts wrote:

 You can also turn on most SCSI devices *after* the computer is booted and
 get the computer to recognize them by following the procedure described
 here: http://www.scantips.com/scsitip.html#boot




Re: Just a little P***ed Off!

2002-12-04 Thread Shaun Canning
Someone's a bit of a mongrel aren't they?

Cheers

Shaun

Paul Jones wrote:

Ditto.



I share your displeasure in learning that
someone on the list provoked Tom. I'm also somewhat dismayed that Tom
would complain without first inquiring.



Regards,
Paul Jones


.




--

Shaun Canning
Cultural Heritage Services 		
High Street, Broadford,
Victoria, 3658.

www.heritageservices.com.au/

Phone: 0414-967644
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


My images can be seen at www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=238096







Re: Who has switched to Pentax and why?

2002-12-04 Thread Thomas Heide Clausen
On Wed, 04 Dec 2002 18:58:45 -0500
Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 For me, Pentax was a no-brainer.  My wife shot a K-1000 as a
 reporter for half a decade, so when I got the bug, I studied a
 little bit, and the PDML more than anything put me in K-mount.  My
 first camera was a KM, and I was hooked.
 
 Those of you who have dabbled in the NCMO world, why are you here
 now?
 
 Hi, my name is Farmina Manahesh Robertson, and I shoot Pentax
 because__
 
 -Lon
 

Hi, my name is Thomas, and I shoot Pentax because Olympus gave up on
film-SLRs a long time ago

...did that make any sense to you? :)




Re: Who has switched to Pentax and why?

2002-12-04 Thread William Robb
Hi, my name is Bill. I switched from Nikon to Pentax for the
lenses.

William Robb




Re: Who has switched to Pentax and why?

2002-12-04 Thread James Fellows
Same story here.  My wife had a k-1000 and a couple lenses.  It was just
natural to build from there.  Her biggest complaint now is I have taken over
her hobby:)

Jim Fellows
- Original Message -
From: Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PDML Pentax Discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:58 PM
Subject: Who has switched to Pentax and why?


 For me, Pentax was a no-brainer.  My wife shot a K-1000 as a reporter
 for half a decade, so when I got the bug, I studied a little bit,
 and the PDML more than anything put me in K-mount.  My first camera
 was a KM, and I was hooked.

 Those of you who have dabbled in the NCMO world, why are you here now?

 Hi, my name is Farmina Manahesh Robertson, and I shoot Pentax because
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 -Lon







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