Re: Film Scanner
> There are a couple of low cost options. HP makes the Photosmart s20xi and > Pacific Images has the 1800afl and the prime film 3600. The HP has 2400PPI > scans and costs $199. The P.I. 1800AFL scans at 1800 PPI and costs $299. The > P.I. Prime Film 3600 scans at 3600 PPI and costs $469. All prices are US$ > B&H Photo. None, I believe, got rave reviews, but depending on what you want > to use the scans for, may be very adequate for your needs. Butch Thanks for the info. The HP only scans 2-5 at a time. But these Pacific Images sounded VERY GOOD. Batch scans up to 40 images wooow. Then I read reviews and Nobody was able to say a good thing about it :(( Does anybody else make a full film strip scanner for home use? (for home use price :)) L
Vs: Pentax <--> Canon
You sure like your Canons, don´t you. Most of your points are valid but in order to benefit from them all you have to own a very extensive inventory of gear. I see no need for that myself - and could not afford it either. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Bojidar Dimitrov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vastaanottaja: PDML <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Päivä: 22. maaliskuuta 2003 7:36 Aihe: Pentax <--> Canon >Hi again, > >I really did not plan to dwell so long on this topic, but since several >of you asked me to post from time to time my impressions of the two >systems, here is my first installment. Until I have enough images shot >with Canon lenses, I will limit myself to a THEORETICAL comparison of >the two systems. Please do not argue about details, whether I should >give 2 or three pluses, whether something is really-really true or true >only in general. Please concentrate of the big picture. > >Do not forget that this is MY PERSONAL ranking. YOURS will definitely >differ from mine. In fact if it didn't, you should jump ship too, as >the comparison below is starkly in favor of Canon. > >Cheers, >Boz > > > > >Pentax >== > >+++ top design (bodies and lenses are generally small and light, the >user interfaces are generally very clean, design philosophy seems to be >"less is more"; sometimes this leads to leaving out useful features; >"less is more" might not be very true lately, as evidenced from products >like the MZ-S, AF360FGZ, *ist) > > ++ K-mount compatibility --- with the exception of four low-end bodies >and two low-end lenses, all other body-lens combinations work without >any limitations (if it were not for the *ist and FAJ lenses I would have >given 3 stars, and this would have been Pentax's strongest point) > > ++ SMC and ghostless coating > > ++ top lenses in every focal length (sadly, mostly older manual focus >ones) > > ++ the Limited lenses (sadly only three lenses at this time) > > ++ the LX, and the system of accessories around it > > + although there are none in production, there are several mechanical >bodies in the system > > + the common K, M and A lenses can be found easily at very low prices >(28/2.8, 35/2.8, 50/1.4, 50/1.7, 100/2.8, 135/2.5, 135/3.5, 200/4) > > + the AF bodies can also control the older flashes > > + smaller theft risk > > >-- no clear statement about future involvement in the "serious" photo >market (some of you believe in certain rumors, but Pentax had made no >clear statement. Sorry, I do not consider Paal as a serious PENTAX >statement. Paal, no offense, but many of your predictions have proven >to be false, and I have not yet developed a good sense of when to >believe you and when not.) > >-- no digital SLR (at least not at time of this writing -- 03/2003) > >-- no IS, USM, AF teleconverters or AF extension tubes > >-- lack of tripod collars on lenses that deserve it: K 200/2.5, A* >200/2.8, FA* 200/2.8, K/M*/A* 300/4, FA* 300/4.5... > >-- desirable products lag about 5 years: FA20-35/4, FA24-90/3.5-4.5, >FA28-105/3.2-4.5, modern flash features > >-- virtually all FA lenses are cheaply built (the FA* are very good) > >-- the second-hand market is VERY small: the good stuff is difficult to >find, there are lots of people who want it, and it is expensive > > - top-of-the-line Pentax = serious amateur from the other manufacturers >(for example MZ-S = Canon 30/Elan 7e) > > - the good new gear is more expensive than from the competition > > - limited support for "modern" flash operation: only two bodies support >flash compensation, high-speed flash, wireless flash > > - the K, M, LX and A bodies are getting old. Buying a second-hand body >is often a game of luck > > - the LX needs expensive and competent service > > - all silver lenses, including the expensive FA* ones can be easily >scratched, and the scratches look really bad > > - the older bodies cannot control the F-type flashes > > - mechanical K-mount coupling somewhat slow and unprecise > > - few shops carry Pentax gear > >- >Total points: -6 (-4 if the *ist D really comes to the shops) > > > >Canon EOS >= > >+++ leading technology: USM, IS, DO, E-TTL, AF teleconverters, AF >extension tubes > > ++ top lenses in every focal length > > ++ just about every imaginable lens is available; most primes available >in two versions (with two max. apertures) > > ++ unique features: tilt-shift lenses, bodies silent-drive mode, >eye-control, FTM (manual-focusing-override of AF at any time) > > ++ very serious in the digital-SLR area and in the pro world in general > > + 50% of the entire EOS system is available on eBay at any time; 90% >can be seen within a month > > + second-hand items available at top prices > > + most lenses are very-well built; the L lenses are superb > > + most lenses with f >= 200 mm have tripod collars > > + focusing m
Re: List civility
It's one thing to attack a thought or position, it's quite another to attack a person by name calling. I wish I could say that I've only attacked thoughts & positions, etc., but I've slipped too. Regards, Bob... "Do not suppose that abuses are eliminated by destroying the object which is abused. Men can go wrong with wine and women. Shall we then prohibit and abolish women?" -Martin Luther From: "Caveman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I kindly ask everyone to refrain from name calling other list members. > > Thank you !
Re: Film Scanner
> Forget to add that B&H is selling minolta dualscan III's for $299 right now I just checked... But if I read correctly this can only scan 6 at a time, not the whole roll. (well. it's still better then the one at a time :)) L
Re: Film Scanner
There are a couple of low cost options. HP makes the Photosmart s20xi and Pacific Images has the 1800afl and the prime film 3600. The HP has 2400PPI scans and costs $199. The P.I. 1800AFL scans at 1800 PPI and costs $299. The P.I. Prime Film 3600 scans at 3600 PPI and costs $469. All prices are US$ B&H Photo. None, I believe, got rave reviews, but depending on what you want to use the scans for, may be very adequate for your needs. BUTCH Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. Hermann Hess (Damien)
Re: Help needed in Chicago
I'd start with Central Camera in Chicago, www.central-camera.com. They have a repair department and i've had success with them in the past. There is also a shop I use for CLA's which is much closer to my home, TC Camera Repair in Lisle, IL, but I'm not sure if they do video repair work or not. HTH John - Original Message - From: "Gianfranco Irlanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 5:38 PM Subject: OT: Help needed in Chicago > Hi guys and gals, > > I guess we have on or more Chicagoans in the PDML (I hope so, at > least - who wrote about "Shoveling in Chicago"?) > A dear friend of mine, Alessandro, is spending a period of study > at the university hospital (sort of...) of Chicago. He left > Naples with his photo gear (Canon... :-( ) and a JVC MiniDV > camcorder we won at a short movie on-line contest (the movie is > Smack, I guess somebody recall that I annoyed all the PDML > members asking for their vote...). > The bad news are that the audio of the JVC is not working; since > Alessandro doesn't know where to repair the camcorder (which, of > course, has no US warranty) I thought to ask to our members in > the windy city if they know how to help him. > Thanks in advance. > > Gianfranco > > > = > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! > http://platinum.yahoo.com > > >
Re: Texas Members
On Friday, March 21, 2003, at 09:18 AM, Ken Archer wrote: Here is a list from Chris Brogden. I don't know how up to date it is. Amarillo; Jackie Lee Mowery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Austin; Delano Mireles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Austin; Jose Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Burleston; Gary Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> North Texas; John Mustarde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> San Angelo; Charles Hardwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> San Antonio; Eleanor Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> San Antonio; Ken Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> San Antonio; Dan Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Spring; Tiger Moses <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Waco; Jeff Wiseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Whitewright; Nicholas Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It's out of date. My old ISP was shot out from under me months ago. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dan Scott
Re: Pentax <--> Canon
Would love to hear how their optical characteristics differ in general. regards, Alan Chan _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Pentax <--> Canon
Hi again, I really did not plan to dwell so long on this topic, but since several of you asked me to post from time to time my impressions of the two systems, here is my first installment. Until I have enough images shot with Canon lenses, I will limit myself to a THEORETICAL comparison of the two systems. Please do not argue about details, whether I should give 2 or three pluses, whether something is really-really true or true only in general. Please concentrate of the big picture. Do not forget that this is MY PERSONAL ranking. YOURS will definitely differ from mine. In fact if it didn't, you should jump ship too, as the comparison below is starkly in favor of Canon. Cheers, Boz Pentax == +++ top design (bodies and lenses are generally small and light, the user interfaces are generally very clean, design philosophy seems to be "less is more"; sometimes this leads to leaving out useful features; "less is more" might not be very true lately, as evidenced from products like the MZ-S, AF360FGZ, *ist) ++ K-mount compatibility --- with the exception of four low-end bodies and two low-end lenses, all other body-lens combinations work without any limitations (if it were not for the *ist and FAJ lenses I would have given 3 stars, and this would have been Pentax's strongest point) ++ SMC and ghostless coating ++ top lenses in every focal length (sadly, mostly older manual focus ones) ++ the Limited lenses (sadly only three lenses at this time) ++ the LX, and the system of accessories around it + although there are none in production, there are several mechanical bodies in the system + the common K, M and A lenses can be found easily at very low prices (28/2.8, 35/2.8, 50/1.4, 50/1.7, 100/2.8, 135/2.5, 135/3.5, 200/4) + the AF bodies can also control the older flashes + smaller theft risk -- no clear statement about future involvement in the "serious" photo market (some of you believe in certain rumors, but Pentax had made no clear statement. Sorry, I do not consider Paal as a serious PENTAX statement. Paal, no offense, but many of your predictions have proven to be false, and I have not yet developed a good sense of when to believe you and when not.) -- no digital SLR (at least not at time of this writing -- 03/2003) -- no IS, USM, AF teleconverters or AF extension tubes -- lack of tripod collars on lenses that deserve it: K 200/2.5, A* 200/2.8, FA* 200/2.8, K/M*/A* 300/4, FA* 300/4.5... -- desirable products lag about 5 years: FA20-35/4, FA24-90/3.5-4.5, FA28-105/3.2-4.5, modern flash features -- virtually all FA lenses are cheaply built (the FA* are very good) -- the second-hand market is VERY small: the good stuff is difficult to find, there are lots of people who want it, and it is expensive - top-of-the-line Pentax = serious amateur from the other manufacturers (for example MZ-S = Canon 30/Elan 7e) - the good new gear is more expensive than from the competition - limited support for "modern" flash operation: only two bodies support flash compensation, high-speed flash, wireless flash - the K, M, LX and A bodies are getting old. Buying a second-hand body is often a game of luck - the LX needs expensive and competent service - all silver lenses, including the expensive FA* ones can be easily scratched, and the scratches look really bad - the older bodies cannot control the F-type flashes - mechanical K-mount coupling somewhat slow and unprecise - few shops carry Pentax gear - Total points: -6 (-4 if the *ist D really comes to the shops) Canon EOS = +++ leading technology: USM, IS, DO, E-TTL, AF teleconverters, AF extension tubes ++ top lenses in every focal length ++ just about every imaginable lens is available; most primes available in two versions (with two max. apertures) ++ unique features: tilt-shift lenses, bodies silent-drive mode, eye-control, FTM (manual-focusing-override of AF at any time) ++ very serious in the digital-SLR area and in the pro world in general + 50% of the entire EOS system is available on eBay at any time; 90% can be seen within a month + second-hand items available at top prices + most lenses are very-well built; the L lenses are superb + most lenses with f >= 200 mm have tripod collars + focusing motor is in the lens: the best-fitting motor can be chosen, and can be placed at the optimal position within the lens + electronic aperture control: the aperture can be placed anywhere in the lens, no mechanical coupling, very fast and precise + all photo stores carry many Canon products + top support from the 3rd-party manufacturers -- no support for FD bodies or lenses (there exists an adapter, but you lose so many features, it's not worth it) -- flare is not very well controlled -- the better bodies and lenses are generally larger and heavier; the amateur stuff is actually smaller than Pentax: Rebe
Re: Film Scanner
Not sure what you mean by a whole roll scanning. None of the scanners I've used support scanning whole roll all at once. The ones I've used have a max of 6 and most photoplaces cut them in groups of 4. > > >I can get a TWAIN driver to work with Linux so that's no problem... I > >have software too. I am worried about scanning a whole roll feature not > >working under Linux. Or is that independent of OS/Driver and done > >completely by hardware? > > > >L > > _ > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > >
RE: Texas Members
Cesar wrote: > Though in Florida I have attended a gathering in San Antonio. Correction (hopefully temporary) -- you attended *the* gathering in San Antonio.
Re: Tilt/shift.............Russian lenses
> I own the Zenitar 16/2.8. I like it, quite alot. > > I'm actually thinking of adding the Arsat 30mm medfo fisheye, and perhaps > even one of their mirror lenses as well. Is there a place you'd recommend to buy these? L
Re: Street Prices
> Check KEH.com I did... and I am constantly checking... (have catalouges stacked up) but I find KEH a little over street price and some of these (though not all) I could not find info on.. I also check e-bay completed... L
Re: OT: RE: It's started! - Let' start an off-topic list.
> This might be a nice idea. Would the server cope with it ? We are generating the unnessecary trafic anyway. It would only decrease the number of "shut up"-s... L
Re: Stan's trip March 29
Hey - I am up for almost anything. I arrive by coach in Portsmouth at 0200 Saturday - by 1000 or earlier I should be ready to go. Tell me more what you have in mind. Stan on 3/21/03 3:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Stan > > Dang it all I forgot about your little excursion. I could be around although I > do know that I am expecting relatives to descend upon us later in the day. > Would you fancy a ride in a motor vehicle Brighton-wards? > > Cheers > > Peter
Re: It's started!
Thanks, Bob. Yes, I was just giving a "heads up". Really didn't mean to start a flame war. Bill - Original Message - From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 4:58 PM Subject: Re: It's started! > There's no need for that kind of talk. He's just giving a "heads up" as to a > major world event taking place now. > > Thanks for the "heads up" Bill. Sad it came to this. > > Regards, > Bob... > --- > "Beer is proof that God loves us > and wants us to be happy" >- Benjamin Franklin > > From: "Feroze Kistan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > piss off > > > From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Anyone with access to CNN, go there now. Baghdad is getting creamed. > >
Re: Street Prices
Check KEH.com - Original Message - From: "Levente -Levi- Littvay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 10:30 PM Subject: Street Prices > Need some help... What is the street price of the following: > > A 20mm/f2.8 > K 24mm/f2.8 > A 24mm/f2.8 > A 35-135mm (not the 28-105, 28-135, 35-105) > M 24-50mm/f4 > A 24-50mm/f4 > A 200mm/f4 > A* 300mm/f4 > Takumar-A 2x teleconverter > A 2x-S teleconverter > A 2x-L teleconverter > > for now... :) IF you know (or can make a more educated guess then I can > :)) of ANY of these... pls let me know... > > L > > > >
Film Scanner
OK. Since I do not have one of these *ist-Ds I need someting to scan my pics with :)) Unfortunately I am an extremely busy person (grad-student who has to read 4-5 books a week) I cannot sit by the darn thing and do it frame by frame... Is there a machine out there that will scan all my color or bw negatives, positives on a film if I just feed it the end? I don't care if it takes forever as long as I will have 24-36 TIFF files afterwards that I can mess with... Any advice for me? thx L PS: I have another issue. I use Linux. Does anyone have experience with Linux compatibility of film scanners. Any input would be appreciated...
RE: *ist AND "Let's do it!"
-- -Original Message- -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 5:48 PM -- -- David Spaulding posted: -- > The store I work in has quite a solid Pentax following -- and I get to sit and play with the -- > MZ-S daily. Not sure about other camera stores...must be -- because we are a -- smaller -- specialty chain (only in Idaho). -- > -- -- THAT settles it. I was all set to suggest that Cesar was the -- expert on all -- locations for PDML meets and he should be consulted, but the -- answer has now -- been provided. A store with a solid Pentax following and -- actual physical -- presence of the MZ-S? Obviously we all need to meet in -- Idaho. -- Wow, thanks Eleanor! I was actually starting to think about where would be a reasonable location. I didn't think anyone would expect an input from me . When I saw what Dave wrote I thought to myself - "Self, can my photo store match the one in Idaho?" As an aside, when thinking about the Synchronicity month in the PUG I was pondering where I would be and what would be available for shooting. Then it hit, my usual stopping place - where I am more than a customer but more like family - my photo store. They may not have much in terms of Pentax SLRs (an MZ-S still sits on the shelf), but their P&S and digital cameras are well represented. H, if I can convince all into a PDML get-together here maybe that would make them carry more in the SLR range :-) They are bringing in the *ist D for my perusal, so they can't be all bad... But let me get back to you on locations... unless, of course there are other answers waiting for me to read. Taking a break to get my gear in order for the weekend, César Panama City, Florida
RE: Let's Do It!! (Was: RE: Wouldn't THAT be nice! was: Why I stick toPentax)
Not a bad choice for me. Not only have I been sent through there for business, but I also have a couple of places where I can stay. Had a blast at Red Rock Canyon, just outside Las Vegas, Cesar Panama City, Florida -- -Original Message- -- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 1:18 AM -- -- One plus for Vegas is the availability of low airfares. -- Paul -- -- Paul Eriksson wrote: -- > -- > Vegas sounds great (for me) :-), only a couple of hours drive. -- > /Paul -- > -- > > -- > >Las Vegas! You can shoot inside the casinos. -- > >Steve Larson -- > >Redondo Beach, California -- > > -- > > -- > > > Hmm.. -- > > > Perhaps we should organize something then.. -- > > > one really big honking Pentax PDML meet ? -- > > > -- > > > Can we have any suggestions for a reasonably -- centralized location that -- > >has -- > > > inexpensive accomodation, great facilities, lots of shooting -- > >opportunities -- > > > and courteous residents? --
Pentax Teleconverters
Can someone compare the A 2x-L, A 2x-S and the Takumar-A 2x for me pls? thx L
RE: Wouldn't THAT be nice! was: Why I stick to Pentax
Hey there Frank! Do I see the making of a commercial??? WIth the assorted people on this list I can see us keeping order and just having a blast. Though I still don't think that I can match your bunny ears :-) Realizing he is so far behind on the list - again, Cesar Panama City, Florida -- -Original Message- -- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 5:15 PM -- -- Hi, Cesar, -- -- Finding a bar big enough? That could be done. Finding a -- bar that would take us -- in? No problem. -- -- Finding a bar that wouldn't boot us all out after about an -- hour of carousing? -- That could be the problem... -- -- cheers, -- frank -- -- Cesar Matamoros II wrote: -- -- > What a concept though, a complete gathering of the -- PDML. It is both an -- > exciting and a scary thought. Would there be a bar big -- enough for us all - -- > and would they even take us in? -- -- > -- -- -- "Honour - that virtue of the unjust!" -- -Albert Camus -- --
Street Prices
Need some help... What is the street price of the following: A 20mm/f2.8 K 24mm/f2.8 A 24mm/f2.8 A 35-135mm (not the 28-105, 28-135, 35-105) M 24-50mm/f4 A 24-50mm/f4 A 200mm/f4 A* 300mm/f4 Takumar-A 2x teleconverter A 2x-S teleconverter A 2x-L teleconverter for now... :) IF you know (or can make a more educated guess then I can :)) of ANY of these... pls let me know... L
Re: OT: RE: It's started! - Let' start an off-topic list.
Doug, This might be a nice idea. Would the server cope with it ? cheers, caveman Levente -Levi- Littvay wrote: PS: Once I was on a mailing list that had an off topic side list. Anyone who is interested to debate off topic issues with fella' list members can take it there. Something like the war would pop up and all they had to say was, take it to the off-topic list and we did. It was a lot more civilized... I don't know who the boss is here but this might be something to consider...
Re: OT: RE: It's started! - Let' start an off-topic list.
> Let's be more forgiving and understanding. The world outside of > cameras does exist, even if you don't like what's going on. hm, NO! If you want to talk about the world, I already offered to discuss... IN PRIVATE! L PS: Once I was on a mailing list that had an off topic side list. Anyone who is interested to debate off topic issues with fella' list members can take it there. Something like the war would pop up and all they had to say was, take it to the off-topic list and we did. It was a lot more civilized... I don't know who the boss is here but this might be something to consider...
Re: Texas Members
John Munro wrote: > Gary wrote: > "How many list members are there that live in Texas and, what part?" > > > My Pentaxes are located in Austin. > > Meeting anyplace but Texarkana, Paris, Sanderson, Texline, Muleshoe, > Quanah, Plano, Two Trees, Old Dime Box, or Vaughn is okay with me. > > Wherever, make sure it's NOT a dry county - we might want to start-up a > travel fund and invite Cotty to be Master of Libations or Bruce if we're > feeling sado-masochistic and NEED to drink (I've got some Kneekon > D1Xs he can play with.) > I didn't know Texas had any dry counties. (Although, since I don't drink anything stronger than Coca-Cola, I wouldn't necessarily know that.)
Re: SMC M 2.5/135mm
I have a K 135mm f/2.5. It's great, and I like the wide apperture for outdoor portrait type shots. It's a bit heavy, although tolerable for hiking. The all metal build is awesome. -Scott On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 12:17, Andre Langevin wrote: > >Hi all > >I'm considering buying this lens again (I lost the one I had and I thought > >it was great). Do any of you know this lens better that the SMC A 2.8/135mm, > >which I allready own? > >Thanks > >Jens > > Jens, are you talking about the M 135mm 3.5 or the K 135mm 2.5? > > But anyway, they are both better than the A 135mm. You could sell > the A to buy the more expensive K lens (not a lot more expensive). > If you want a light lens (hiking etc.), go for the M and you'll still > have some money in the pocket. > > Andre > -- >
Lens Hood Suggestions
After recently acquiring a deep, solid hood with my SMC 135/2.5 (Thanks Fred) I've decided to get hood for the rest of my lenses. I already have a flexible hood for my 50mm, but I like the protection offered by the solid hood more. Metal hood are preferable, but solid plastic hoods are ok too. I have the following lenses: 28-70 f/4 52mm filter 80-200 f/4.7-5.6 49mm filter 24mm f/2.8 52mm filter 50mm f/1.7 49mm filter 135mm f/2.5 58mm filter (already have an ok hood); Thanks in advance for your suggesetions -Scott
Auction ending tomorrow
Just a reminder, I have several items up for auction ending about 4:00 PST tomorrow, Saturday 22 April. http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&include=0&userid =stanh&sort=3&rows=25&since=-1&rd=1 If that link doesn't work, the ebay ID to look for is "stanh" Includes SMC-A 135/2.8 currently at $52, M42 "variable close-up ring" (I know this as a "helicoid extension" in K mount and 645 lingo. Same thing, but less extension.) Currently at $24.50 SMC-M 135/3.5 currently at $60 645 body with choice of 120 or 220 insert, small or large eyecup, regular or grid screen, includes straps, body caps... Currently at $314 And some other stuff, currently at $10.50, $9.99, $2.25, and $18.50 Stan
Re: sigma pan focus 135mm?????????????? f64
adphoto wrote: > anyone tried it > apparently it stops down to f64 > any good I actually *have* one! It does, indeed, stop to f64 It is an older all metal lens and a pretty decent one at that. Has a slide-out lenshood, as well. I have an aversion to 135mm focal length - just doesn't seem to ever mesh w/ where I am standing relative to my subject matter for some reason. Much prefer the 150mm FOV Are you interested in one? As I say - I never use it, so feel free to make a reasonable offer. Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
Bob Blakely
- Original Message - From: "Bob Blakely" Subject: Re: RE: It's started! > Don't get your knickers ripped. He's just giving a "heads up" as to a major > world event taking place now. Perhaps this is why Accesscomm is blocking you Bob. I am pretty sure I deleted this post half a dozen times already today. William Robb
Re: To William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" Subject: Re: To William Robb > A lot of people are blocking parts of pbi.net just on principle because > they support some notorious spammers, but the particular IP address here > *was* an open mail relay at one time. It's since been fixed (I just > tested it) so I suspect an email to the appropriate postmaster should be > sufficient to get it unblocked. Wow, my own thread name. After so many years, I have finally arrived.. Anyway, I have been down this road before. Access Communications subscribes to a real time net list which advises who is running open relays, and blocks these hosts accordingly. They are also very unwilling to unblock an ISP untill they have corrected their server and the list they use has been updated. I am sure that shortly after pbi.net corrects things, Bob will be able to send me emails to his hearts content. Until then, telle est la vie. William Robb
Re: It's started!
Bob Walkden wrote: > > Hi, > > Friday, March 21, 2003, 6:54:22 PM, you wrote: > > > Bob Walkden wrote: > > more political crap. > > > Congratulations Bob. Once again, you've proved to be the horse's ass. > > Is this the best you can come up with? > > I'm happy to be a horse's ass Paul if that's what it means to ask for > some consideration and sympathy towards the victims of war, and if it > distinguishes me from people like you. Consider for a moment how you > would have felt on the morning of September 11th 2001 if somebody had > written "New York is getting creamed". Would have been true, wouldn't it have, Bob... keith > -- > Cheers, > Bob
Re: To William Robb
Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I'd reply to you off list, Willie, but your ISP rejects mail from my company >gateway ISP: > Received: from BOBBYBGOOD ([216.100.84.63]) > by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 1.6 (built >Oct 18 A lot of people are blocking parts of pbi.net just on principle because they support some notorious spammers, but the particular IP address here *was* an open mail relay at one time. It's since been fixed (I just tested it) so I suspect an email to the appropriate postmaster should be sufficient to get it unblocked. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Texas Members
John Mustarde wrote: I live near Phoenix, Arizona, which is actually Far West Texas. That's okay, John. We won't hold that against you and you're still welcome! :-) -- Later, Gary
sigma pan focus 135mm?????????????? f64
anyone tried it apparently it stops down to f64 any good
Re: Tactile Cameras
Sort of like fishing without hooks ? And getting the other guys to carry the tripod ? Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 7:24 PM Subject: Re: Tactile Cameras > frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >If the camera as instrument were my primary focus, I wouldn't bother to put > >film in them - I'd just shoot blanks all day long > > Funny you should mention that. I've just been thinking about writing a > short story about a photographer who leads an fanatical "disciple" on a > brutally difficult mountain climb for the purposes of taking a > photograph, carrying a huge view camera and tripod (this is kind of > inspired by the ascent of Grandfather Mountain's McRae Peak with Cesar > and Jerome last year!), only to reveal at the end that he's so much of a > purist that he shoots without film now, just for the experience of > setting up the shot. > > -- > Mark Roberts > Photography and writing > www.robertstech.com >
Re: To William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Bob Blakely" Subject: To William Robb > As you can see, the server they are referring to is a pbi.net server (That's > Pacific Bell). Pacific Bell (SBC) is one of the larger ISPs in the US and is > used by many regular businesses like ours (Technocom Corporation > www.technocom-wireless.com) pacbell.net is our gateway. > > So, Willie, looks like you'll never be receiving anything from me or anyone > else using pacbell.net directly. Looks like it's used by less than regular businesses too. C'est la vie. William Robb
Re: FS: Friday
Sorry this should not have gone public /Paul From: "Paul Eriksson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FS: Friday Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 16:41:15 -0800 Is it free shipping with this item as well? Gameboy Pocket US$30 (with 2 games, all mint, screen 100% scratch free) http://www3.telus.net/wlachan/gameboy.jpg _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: FS: Friday
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Re: test
On Friday 21 March 2003 21:27, Cotty wrote: > please ignore - testing a new Eudora in OS X. It doesn't work, pitty. -- Frits Wüthrich Pentaxianado
Re: Sunagor lens
Thanks for all the responses eveyone! Frits On Thursday 20 March 2003 20:36, Hagner, Andrew wrote: > Hi Frits: > > I used one of these some years ago for a day. It was a bit of a novelty > which wore off its appeal pretty quickly. > > With a M50mm f:1.7 it gave a full frame image with enough distortion to > call it a fisheye effect. With my M28 f:2.8 it gave a circular image > within the frame. Optically it had poor sharpness and very low contrast > (muddy tonality). It was nearly useless with the 28 mm lens. Needless to > say I never had the desire to use it again. I imagine all of these add-ons > would give you similar quality. > > Not recommended. Cheers, - Andrew. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Frits Wüthrich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: March 20, 2003 2:43 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Sunagor lens > > > I am holding a Sunagor Super Wide Semi Fish-Eye 0.42x made in Japan lens in > my > hand. It has no focus control or aperture. On the back it has 54mm thread, > and a step down ring to 52mm. If I understand this correct, you can mount > it > > on a lens like a filter, and it will give you a wide angle lens. > > Doe anyone know how good this is? > What would the value be? The lens is in very good condition. -- Frits Wüthrich Pentaxianado
Re: It's started!
Hi, Friday, March 21, 2003, 6:54:22 PM, you wrote: > Bob Walkden wrote: > more political crap. > Congratulations Bob. Once again, you've proved to be the horse's ass. Is this the best you can come up with? I'm happy to be a horse's ass Paul if that's what it means to ask for some consideration and sympathy towards the victims of war, and if it distinguishes me from people like you. Consider for a moment how you would have felt on the morning of September 11th 2001 if somebody had written "New York is getting creamed". -- Cheers, Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: It's started!
Keith Whaley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I'm now a-political. I have opinions, and some strong ones, but am not >what you'd call partisan. Death to all fanatics! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Tactile Cameras
frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >If the camera as instrument were my primary focus, I wouldn't bother to put >film in them - I'd just shoot blanks all day long Funny you should mention that. I've just been thinking about writing a short story about a photographer who leads an fanatical "disciple" on a brutally difficult mountain climb for the purposes of taking a photograph, carrying a huge view camera and tripod (this is kind of inspired by the ascent of Grandfather Mountain's McRae Peak with Cesar and Jerome last year!), only to reveal at the end that he's so much of a purist that he shoots without film now, just for the experience of setting up the shot. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: It's started!
Folks who are working in offices for a living. Regards, Bob... --- "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy" - Benjamin Franklin - Original Message - From: "Keith Whaley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 3:21 PM Subject: Re: It's started! > > > Ed Matthew wrote: > > > > And whose head is so far in the sand that a 'heads up' is needed? > > > > Ed > > The people who, when a different subject is mentioned, and especially > any subject containing the word gun, or perhaps violence, or > especially "politics" get a huge shot of adrenaline, and > quickly put their heads back in the sand again! Those are our resident > ostrich-mimicking Pentax list persons. > > keith whaley > > > >From: Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: Re: It's started! > > >Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 14:01:20 -0800 > > > > > >Don't get your knickers ripped. He's just giving a "heads up" as to a major > > >world event taking place now. > > > > > >Regards, > > >Bob... > > >--- > > >"Beer is proof that God loves us > > >and wants us to be happy" > > >- Benjamin Franklin > > > > > >From: "dick graham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > This is a very intense, emotional time for most of us, no matter which > > >side > > > > of this conflict we fall on. Let's keep the war out of our threads and > > > > stick to the main subject that finds all of us inside this "family". > > >That > > > > would be photography and in particular, Pentax photography. > > > > > > > > At 08:19 PM 3/21/03 +0200, some fool wrote: > > > > >piss off > > > > >From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone with access to CNN, go there now. Baghdad is getting > > >creamed. > > > > > > > > > > _ > > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > >
anyone tried the sigma 20-40mm 2.8? or the 15-30mm?
the first one has had some good reviews how does it compare to pentax primes such as the 20mm and 24mm the second would be great on a dslr anone tried it?
To William Robb
I'd reply to you off list, Willie, but your ISP rejects mail from my company gateway ISP: --- In the return mail... Recipient address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reason: Remote SMTP server has rejected address Diagnostic code: smtp;553 You have been administratively blocked. See http://www.accesscomm.ca/internet/blocked (#5.7.1) Remote system: dns;qmail.accesscomm.ca (TCP|206.13.28.240|64159|204.83.142.82|25) (qmail.accesscomm.ca Welcome Dude. ESMTP) - The link (above) says... 553 Administratively blocked. See http://www.accesscomm.ca/internet/blocked If you tried to send mail to a user in the accesscomm.ca domain and received this error, it means that your mail server (or its smarthost, if applicable) has been blocked from talking to our mail server. This can happen one of two ways: 1.Your mail server was engaged in activities frequently employed by spammers, and was automatically blocked. 2.Multiple other systems on the same network as your mail server were engaged in activities frequently employed by spammers, resulting in the entire network being automatically blocked. If you are attempting to send legitimate email to one of our users, and it is being blocked, please contact the administrator of your mail server. You can refer your administrator to this page, and he/she can contact us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please do not contact us directly at this address; we will respond only to the mail server or netblock administrator. If you are an Access Communications Internet subscriber and have received this error, please contact our abuse department directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or our Internet Help Desk at 565-5357. We apologize for any inconvenience this process may have caused you. Internet Administration Group Access Communications --- This is my complete header as they received it... Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from tcp-daemon.mta6.snfc21.pbi.net by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 1.6 (built Oct 18 2002)) id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (original mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 14:36:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from BOBBYBGOOD ([216.100.84.63]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 1.6 (built Oct 18 2002)) with SMTP id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 21 Mar 2003 14:33:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 14:32:19 -0800 From: Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: It's started! To: William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-to: Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600. X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> As you can see, the server they are referring to is a pbi.net server (That's Pacific Bell). Pacific Bell (SBC) is one of the larger ISPs in the US and is used by many regular businesses like ours (Technocom Corporation www.technocom-wireless.com) pacbell.net is our gateway. So, Willie, looks like you'll never be receiving anything from me or anyone else using pacbell.net directly. Regards, Bob... --- "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy" - Benjamin Franklin
Re: It's started!
frank theriault wrote: > > Hi, Keith, > > Maybe you were including me in the ostrich-mimickers, maybe not - it doesn't > really matter to me, one way or the other. Nah, they know who they are. And so do you. > But, just because one doesn't wish to see politics, etc. discussed here (it is > "list policy", after all), doesn't mean that one's head is in the sand. Absolutely true, sir. I didn't bring the subject up. Those who blanch at merely seeing the WORD are the ones I am gunning for (got 'em twice in one email!) > I, for one, was until quite recently, very politically active. I'm now a-political. I have opinions, and some strong ones, but am not what you'd call partisan. > Now, if what you mean is that anyone whose political opinions differ from yours > has their head in the sand, well, that's a different issue altogether... Certainly not! No sir! Most of my best friends are of a different cut of political cloth. Doesn't bother me at all. My own daughter, bless her soul, is miles apart from me in terms of women's lib issues and Democrat vs. Republican issues. She's amazed when I tell her the RNC doesn't speak for me anymore. Hasn't for years and years. I'm one of the original hybrids... Still, she's a brilliant, successful kid (of 40!) and has a great business head on her shoulders... It simply doesn't matter to me WHO she votes for! We talk about many other things... Know what? She doesn't turn white-faced or get palpitations when I speak the word 'gun' in her presence... We lambaste many colors of politicians, quite freely, and gleefully! when we get together. No reason Ostrich Boy can't be the same way. If I respect everything else about you, who _cares_ what your political beliefs are? You could even admit to a love for Pentax's and I'd still respect you in the morning! keith > cheers, > ostrich boy > > Keith Whaley wrote: > > > The people who, when a different subject is mentioned, and especially > > any subject containing the word gun, or perhaps violence, or > > especially "politics" get a huge shot of adrenaline, and > > quickly put their heads back in the sand again! Those are our resident > > ostrich-mimicking Pentax list persons. > > > > keith whaley > > > > -- > "Honour - that virtue of the unjust!" > -Albert Camus
Re: Fun with Optio S & Vegas it is
Valley of Fire is the first state Park of Nevada, somewhat north east of Las Vegas about an hour or so drive. A very photographical place. Check out a PUG posting of mine taken @ the park - http://pug.komkon.org/01sep/img0053.html Red Rock Canyon is closer to downtown, but I think Valley of Fire offers more/better opportunities. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Amita Guha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 10:20 AM Subject: RE: Fun with Optio S & Vegas it is > > I've been to Las Vegas several times...there is a canyon > > nearby...Fire Canyon or Canyon of Fire...I wanted to go and > > shoot the last time I was there, but time ran out. Wouldn't > > mind a chance to try again. > > Red Rock Canyon is the closest, only 20 miles outside of Vegas. Fire > Canyon might be a part of it (there are a bunch of different canyons on > a loop road). We rented a convertible and drove out there, and then we > drove out to Death Valley. Best part of our Vegas trip. Have fun! > > Amita
FS: Friday
This is the first time I sell here. I am still waiting for 2 more zoom lenses (FA28-70/4 & FA70-200/4-5/6) and the film processed before I put them on eBay. So here you go... (these items will be available for as long as I haven't put them on eBay (probably late next week)). SMC-M 135/3.5 EX+ US$70 (with original front & rear caps and serial number card, the mount was taped so matrix metering is possible with AF cameras. The only defect is 1mm fine scratch near the edge of the rear element. Since I have the FA*200/2.8 now, this has to go.) http://www3.telus.net/wlachan/crop0005.jpg http://www3.telus.net/wlachan/M135back.jpg SMC-A 70-210/4 EX+ US$145 (with original front & rear caps and serial number card, there is some paint wear near the aperture ring(see pic), glass scratch free. Since I have the FA*200/2.8 now, this has to go too.) http://www3.telus.net/wlachan/crop0007.jpg http://www3.telus.net/wlachan/crop0006.jpg A 2X-S Rear Converter Mint US$200 (original box in EX, original hard case mint with original strap (still in original plastic bag), no manual, with original Pentax front & rear caps, glass perfect, haven't got the film processed so no pic sorry) FF-60 screen for Z-1p US$10 (scratch free, but I marked it with 4 lines for easier vertical & horizontal shots (see pic), with manual) http://www3.telus.net/wlachan/screen.jpg MZ/ZX bottom plate & battery compartment cover mint US$10 (with a set of screws, virtually new) http://www3.telus.net/wlachan/MX_ZX.jpg LX & LX Winder parts $30 (all brand new except the last 2 items at the bottom of the pic) http://www3.telus.net/wlachan/LX.jpg Super A/program & MDA parts $10 (all brand new) http://www3.telus.net/wlachan/MDA.jpg Minolta 5 degree viewfinder $70 (virtually brand new, bought it 3 years ago but never used (mounted it a few times only), haven't got the film processed so no pic sorry, comes with everything included in the original package) PS: Free shipping to Canada & US. All items are dent/ding/fungus free and work 100%. - Non-Pentax-related items: Canon BCI-21 colour ink cartiages (x2) US$10 (might not even cover the shipping, but I only use black so what the heck...) http://www3.telus.net/wlachan/BCI-21.jpg SONY ECM-S5 mic US$10 (stereo, never used, takes 1 AA cell, for walkman or MD walkman etc) http://www3.telus.net/wlachan/SONYmic.jpg Moisture trap for compressor US$20 (designed for small compressors selling in hobby shops) http://www3.telus.net/wlachan/filter.jpg Gameboy Pocket US$30 (with 2 games, all mint, screen 100% scratch free) http://www3.telus.net/wlachan/gameboy.jpg SWATCH watch US$10 (EX condition, needs battery) http://www3.telus.net/wlachan/swatch.jpg Panasonic shaver US$20 (100-240V charger, shaver water resistance, rechargable battery needed to be replaced) http://www3.telus.net/wlachan/shaver.jpg regards, Alan Chan _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: It's started!
Bob Walkden wrote: more political crap. Congratulations Bob. Once again, you've proved to be the horse's ass.
Re: It's started!
Yeah, you're right again, Frank. A heads-up is okay as long as people don't start editorializing. Paul frank theriault wrote: > > Hey, Bill, > > As the self-appointed, unofficial list haranguer, I just wanted to jump > in and say I'm not offended by your post. > > No editorializing, just the facts, plain and simple. I'm thinking we'd > have all found out about it sooner or later, but I don't see the harm in > it... > > I just figure, since I spout off when things get political, I should be > balanced in my harangues... > > cheers, > frank > > Bill Owens wrote: > > > Anyone with access to CNN, go there now. Baghdad is getting creamed. > > > > Bill > > -- > "Honour - that virtue of the unjust!" > -Albert Camus
Re: It's started!
Hi, Keith, Maybe you were including me in the ostrich-mimickers, maybe not - it doesn't really matter to me, one way or the other. But, just because one doesn't wish to see politics, etc. discussed here (it is "list policy", after all), doesn't mean that one's head is in the sand. I, for one, was until quite recently, very politically active. Now, if what you mean is that anyone whose political opinions differ from yours has their head in the sand, well, that's a different issue altogether... cheers, ostrich boy Keith Whaley wrote: > The people who, when a different subject is mentioned, and especially > any subject containing the word gun, or perhaps violence, or > especially "politics" get a huge shot of adrenaline, and > quickly put their heads back in the sand again! Those are our resident > ostrich-mimicking Pentax list persons. > > keith whaley > -- "Honour - that virtue of the unjust!" -Albert Camus
Re: Wouldn't THAT be nice! (TORONTO)
What a bummer. Weeknights are tough for me, after a long work day. I wanted to meet the man behind the "Lighthouses" (I'm a sucker for Lighthouses). Jeff. Mark Roberts wrote: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I really enjoy our little get togethers that we in Toronto have once in a while. It's nice, as well, to meet the odd out-of-towner who swings this way, like Paul Stenquist, Stan Halpin, or Mark Roberts (coming in April!). OK, looks like my Toronto trip is on. It's been moved up slightly: I'll be arriving on Thursday, 03 April and probably only staying one night due to my very restricted budget, so any get-together will have to be Thursday evening rather than Friday. I'd have preferred Friday (as would many others, no doubt) but that's the best I can do at the moment.
Re: Wouldn't THAT be nice! (TORONTO)
frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi, Mark, > >Thursday April 3 is great for me! Just let us know where you'll be, and we can >suggest a meeting place (or you can - whatever). Let us know what time is good >for you (I'm off work by 5 each day). Whatever time that is, we'll tell >Brendan to be there an hour earlier - that way we'll only have to wait 1/2 hour >for him!! > >BTW, remember, a long long time ago, you sent me a rewind knob? You thought it >might fit my MV (but it didn't). Turns out it's identical to the one on my >MX. It was lost for about 6 months or more. Well, I found it! It's yours >again if you want it! I'll bring one for an ME Super (I think that's the same one used on the MV) and trade you :-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
OT: Help needed in Chicago
Hi guys and gals, I guess we have on or more Chicagoans in the PDML (I hope so, at least - who wrote about "Shoveling in Chicago"?) A dear friend of mine, Alessandro, is spending a period of study at the university hospital (sort of...) of Chicago. He left Naples with his photo gear (Canon... :-( ) and a JVC MiniDV camcorder we won at a short movie on-line contest (the movie is Smack, I guess somebody recall that I annoyed all the PDML members asking for their vote...). The bad news are that the audio of the JVC is not working; since Alessandro doesn't know where to repair the camcorder (which, of course, has no US warranty) I thought to ask to our members in the windy city if they know how to help him. Thanks in advance. Gianfranco = __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com
Re: It's started!
Hi, Friday, March 21, 2003, 11:01:52 PM, you wrote: > No editorializing, just the facts, plain and simple. I'm thinking we'd > have all found out about it sooner or later, but I don't see the harm in > it... well, an emotive word like 'creamed' sounds to me more like editorializing than plain, simple facts. In case anybody wonders what it means to get 'creamed', here's part of a report from Robert Fisk, in Baghdad: "The first of the latter, a taxi driver, was blown to pieces in the first American raid on Baghdad yesterday morning. No one here doubted that the dead would include civilians. Tony Blair said just that in the Commons debate this week but I wondered, listening to this storm of fire across Baghdad last night, if he has any conception of what it looks like, what it feels like, or of the fear of those innocent Iraqis who are, as I write this, cowering in their homes and basements" http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=389208 > I just figure, since I spout off when things get political, I should be > balanced in my harangues... >> Anyone with access to CNN, go there now. Baghdad is getting creamed. -- Cheers, Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: It's started!
Don't get your knickers ripped. He's just giving a "heads up" as to a major world event taking place now. Regards, Bob... --- "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy" - Benjamin Franklin From: "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > This is a very intense, emotional time for most of us, no matter > > which side of this conflict we fall on. Let's keep the war out of > > our threads and stick to the main subject that finds all of us > > inside this "family". That would be photography and in > > particular, Pentax photography. > > Amen.
Re: It's started!
Don't get your knickers ripped. He's just giving a "heads up" as to a major world event taking place now. Regards, Bob... --- "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy" - Benjamin Franklin From: "dick graham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This is a very intense, emotional time for most of us, no matter which side > of this conflict we fall on. Let's keep the war out of our threads and > stick to the main subject that finds all of us inside this "family". That > would be photography and in particular, Pentax photography. > > At 08:19 PM 3/21/03 +0200, some fool wrote: > >piss off > >From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Anyone with access to CNN, go there now. Baghdad is getting creamed.
Re: RE: It's started!
Don't get your knickers ripped. He's just giving a "heads up" as to a major world event taking place now. Regards, Bob... --- "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy" - Benjamin Franklin From: "David Chang-Sang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This should be OT and not even posted here. > > From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Anyone with access to CNN, go there now. Baghdad is getting creamed.
Re: It's started!
There's no need for that kind of talk. He's just giving a "heads up" as to a major world event taking place now. Thanks for the "heads up" Bill. Sad it came to this. Regards, Bob... --- "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy" - Benjamin Franklin From: "Feroze Kistan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > piss off > From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Anyone with access to CNN, go there now. Baghdad is getting creamed.
Re: Texas Members
Gary, I still live near Austin, Texas. I think it would be nice to have a PDML meeting down here... Regards, Jose R. Rodriguez Pflugerville, TX [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > From: Ken Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2003/03/21 Fri AM 09:18:49 CST > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > CC: Dan Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Texas Members > > Here is a list from Chris Brogden. I don't know how up to date it is. > > Amarillo; Jackie Lee Mowery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Austin; Delano Mireles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Austin; Jose Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Burleston; Gary Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > North Texas; John Mustarde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > San Angelo; Charles Hardwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > San Antonio; Eleanor Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > San Antonio; Ken Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > San Antonio; Dan Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Spring; Tiger Moses <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Waco; Jeff Wiseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Whitewright; Nicholas Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Friday 21 March 2003 08:58 pm, Gary L. Murphy wrote: > > How many list members are there that live in Texas and, what part? > > > > Wouldn't it be nice to plan a PDML state meeting somewhere? > > -- > Ken Archer Canine Photography > San Antonio, Texas > "Business Is Going To The Dogs"
Re: PUG submissions
- Original Message - Subject: PUG submissions > Hi folks, > > As a new guy I have a question I would like to direct to the mainters of the Gallery. I poked around and couldn't find out who the mainters were. Could they send me a private email so I can ask a question, or could someone tell me who and the email of a maintainer so I could pose my question. Wow, and I thought I had set that up so well. There is a series of links below the thumbnails, including an email hot link. Click on the "here" in "contact the Gallery here" to email the maintainer. William (former PUG guy) Robb
Re: FS Friday (LX, Lenses, etc)
I'll take this one if it's still available. Ken On Friday 21 March 2003 09:22 pm, Geoff Moes wrote: > Pentax M 50/f1.7 internal dust No caps dust $10 -- Ken Archer Canine Photography San Antonio, Texas "Business Is Going To The Dogs"
Re: Stan's trip March 29
Stan Dang it all I forgot about your little excursion. I could be around although I do know that I am expecting relatives to descend upon us later in the day. Would you fancy a ride in a motor vehicle Brighton-wards? Cheers Peter -- CAMERA DIRECT 8 DORSET STREET BRIGHTON EAST SUSSEX BN2 1WA UK TEL 44 1273 681129 FAX 44 1273 681135 http://www.camera-direct.com
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FS Friday (LX, Lenses, etc)
Hi, Im doing a little house cleaning. Lenses Pentax K 24/f2.8 $200 Pentax M 50/f2 $20 Pentax A 135/f2.8 $100 Pentax 17/4 fish-eye $325 Pentax A 28-135/f4 zoom - $250 Pentax A 28-80/3.5-4.5 zoom $115 Takumar-A 28-80 $80 LX and LX related Pentax LX 523xxx Ex++ condition FA-1 finder $425 Pentax LX 532xxx Body only, user condition, no finder or cap, scratched focusing screen, works but needs CLA, sold as is, $235 LX screen SA-23 new in box $22 LX screen SD-11 $20 LX screen SE-20 has small mark $9 LX grip B $35 Misc Filters Hoya 49mm orange - $7 Tiffen 62mm orange - $9 Tiffen 62mm red - $9 Tiffen 62mm polarizer - $15 Hoya 62mm polarizer - $15 Hoya 49mm Sky $5 Vivitar 55mm Polarizer $10 Tiffen 52mm haze $9 Bargain items Pentax M 50/f2 internal dust No caps $5 Pentax M 50/f1.7 internal dust No caps dust $10 Please email me off list with any questions, photos available by request. Will consider any serious offer. Everything I dont sell here will eventually go to ebay. Geoff
Re: Texas Members
Here is a list from Chris Brogden. I don't know how up to date it is. Amarillo; Jackie Lee Mowery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Austin; Delano Mireles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Austin; Jose Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Burleston; Gary Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> North Texas; John Mustarde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> San Angelo; Charles Hardwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> San Antonio; Eleanor Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> San Antonio; Ken Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> San Antonio; Dan Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Spring; Tiger Moses <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Waco; Jeff Wiseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Whitewright; Nicholas Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Friday 21 March 2003 08:58 pm, Gary L. Murphy wrote: > How many list members are there that live in Texas and, what part? > > Wouldn't it be nice to plan a PDML state meeting somewhere? -- Ken Archer Canine Photography San Antonio, Texas "Business Is Going To The Dogs"
Re: What is this? Is it a Pentax Scanner?
http://www.excite.co.jp/world/url/ regards, Alan Chan http://www.pentax.co.jp/japan/news/2003/200316.html _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: new toy :-)
Can't wait to shoot with this baby - and 24mm is sooo much wider than a plain 28mm :-) And makes some nice close-up head shots too... :) regards, Alan Chan _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
Texas Members
How many list members are there that live in Texas and, what part? Wouldn't it be nice to plan a PDML state meeting somewhere? -- Later, Gary
Re: Let's Do It!! - So Vegas Then ?
Hmm, chair on the roof. Image of Beverly Hillbillies heading to LA. Actually, I walk a bit every day, so as not to feel welded to the chair. Victoria is great, and downtown hotels go for $39.95 Cdn at this time of year. Even in summer, they're only $10 or $20 more. It's not "Lost Wages, Nevada", but we do have a casino, as well as lots of whale watching. You can fly in direct, but if you land in Vancouver, the hop over to the Island only takes about twenty minutes, and the commuter plane (40-seater?) only climbs to 4000 feet or so, meaning great views of the small islands it passes over. If you like scuba diving, there's a dive center on the waterfront. If you like drinking, some bars have $1 shooter nights, but I haven't checked it out. There are several brews only available on the Island. Some ads feature Customs agents removing bottles of a local brand from a departing visitor's suitcase, saying, "The beer stays here!" Some parts of downtown Victoria are as picturesque as old Quebec City, and the downtown's small enough to walk around. I spent three weeks here in 2001, returned to Toronto just long enough to attend a couple of family events, then came back to stay. Thirty years in Toronto is enough for anyone. Never ride your bicycle in the snow again, Frank! You'd be amazed at the number of recumbent bikes rolling around here. Uh-oh, I'd better stop before half of Ontario moves here. Pat White
Re: OT: RE: It's started!
Let's not get carried away, folks. Black and white does not exist in the world, except on film. Let's be more forgiving and understanding. The world outside of cameras does exist, even if you don't like what's going on. keith whaley Fred wrote: > > > This should be OT and not even posted here. > > Not just "OT", but "OL" (for "off limits"). > > Fred
Re: OT: RE: It's started!
> This should be OT and not even posted here. Not just "OT", but "OL" (for "off limits"). Fred
Re: It's started!
> This is a very intense, emotional time for most of us, no matter > which side of this conflict we fall on. Let's keep the war out of > our threads and stick to the main subject that finds all of us > inside this "family". That would be photography and in > particular, Pentax photography. Amen. Fred
Re: SMC M 2.5/135mm
Hi all I'm considering buying this lens again (I lost the one I had and I thought it was great). Do any of you know this lens better that the SMC A 2.8/135mm, which I allready own? Thanks Jens Jens, are you talking about the M 135mm 3.5 or the K 135mm 2.5? But anyway, they are both better than the A 135mm. You could sell the A to buy the more expensive K lens (not a lot more expensive). If you want a light lens (hiking etc.), go for the M and you'll still have some money in the pocket. Andre --
Re: Pentax zoom 28-200, PDML beano, Mayor of Brighton, Horizon 202
Mark Roberts wrote: I used to have the Tamron 28-200 [...] I eventually replaced it with the Sigma 28-135 which is noticeably better [...] Then I replaced *that* with a Tokina 28-70 [...] I'd suggest you could narrow the range even more. One of my favs is the 50-50/1.4. Small, lightweight, fast and sharp. It doesn't get any better than that. ;-) cheers, caveman
Re: Last Update and Fire Sale (was RE: For Sale (lots of stuff))
> Tom, do you have a tracking number for the zx-5n? I sent the $70.00 check this morning, btw Good luck with the rest of the stuff ann
Re: missed deadlines... and Tennessee PDML folk
> ugh. Pug. missed it again, but this time it was extenuating circumstances... gotta get off the list in a couple of days for about 2 weeks too... The child/flower/puppy shot I thought I was gonna use was just too lousy and too difficult to spruce up in photoshop in my time frame. So who is near Pigeon Forge? Oakridge? (I may be going their for a day or two after) annsan
new toy :-)
I think that finally I got a good deal on something :-) SMC A 24-50/4 in exc++/mint- condition for $92.5 including shipping. I guess this is quite a good price. The lens is really nice - it doesn't have that "plasticky" feel that some A lenses have. It's solid and looks to be all metal. I've heard that it's not a stellar performer, but I think that a 24mm focal lenght with SMC for under $100 is pretty good. Can't wait to shoot with this baby - and 24mm is sooo much wider than a plain 28mm :-) Regards, Łukasz === www.fotopolis.pl [EMAIL PROTECTED] === internetowy magazyn o fotografii
SMC M 2.5/135mm
Hi all I'm considering buying this lens again (I lost the one I had and I thought it was great). Do any of you know this lens better that the SMC A 2.8/135mm, which I allready own? Thanks Jens -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Brendan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 21. marts 2003 21:01 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Wouldn't THAT be nice! (TORONTO) I actually should be able to do that lol --- Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >I really enjoy our little get togethers that we in > Toronto have once in a > >while. It's nice, as well, to meet the odd > out-of-towner who swings this > >way, like Paul Stenquist, Stan Halpin, or Mark > Roberts (coming in April!). > > OK, looks like my Toronto trip is on. It's been > moved up slightly: I'll > be arriving on Thursday, 03 April and probably only > staying one night > due to my very restricted budget, so any > get-together will have to be > Thursday evening rather than Friday. I'd have > preferred Friday (as would > many others, no doubt) but that's the best I can do > at the moment. > > -- > Mark Roberts > Photography and writing > www.robertstech.com > __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: Wouldn't THAT be nice! (TORONTO)
I actually should be able to do that lol --- Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >I really enjoy our little get togethers that we in > Toronto have once in a > >while. It's nice, as well, to meet the odd > out-of-towner who swings this > >way, like Paul Stenquist, Stan Halpin, or Mark > Roberts (coming in April!). > > OK, looks like my Toronto trip is on. It's been > moved up slightly: I'll > be arriving on Thursday, 03 April and probably only > staying one night > due to my very restricted budget, so any > get-together will have to be > Thursday evening rather than Friday. I'd have > preferred Friday (as would > many others, no doubt) but that's the best I can do > at the moment. > > -- > Mark Roberts > Photography and writing > www.robertstech.com > __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: Pentax zoom 28-200, PDML beano, Mayor of Brighton, Horizon 202
Clive evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Ok so I want to add a travel zoom to my bag of k and m primes [well not add >to more substitute for] >I use MX [2], ME super and LX bodies so AF is not a >concern... >I've bough a 28-80 F it's fine thanks Rob , but still means I have to cart >too much wen i'm trying naot to ba pahotographer. >Sooo i'm thinking about a 28-200 [it's really aTamron in disguise I >think, horrible huge 72mm filter] >Would probabaly use it wit the ME super. >Anybody got one , hates it, likes it? >Other solutions? I used to have the Tamron 28-200, which is the same lens, sans SMC. It's actually pretty good at short focal lengths: Use a tripod and good 11 x 14 prints are possible if you stop it down. In fact, one of my best ever black and white shots was taken with this lens (it seems to me a better lens for B/W than color). I'm sure the shot would have been better with a good prime or even a "pro" zoom, but I can't complain about the result I got. Beyond 100mm it gets dodgy and I really wouldn't use it above 135mm. I eventually replaced it with the Sigma 28-135 which is noticeably better (smaller filter,too - 62mm). Then I replaced *that* with a Tokina 28-70 which has an even more horrible 77mm filter ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Wouldn't THAT be nice! (TORONTO)
frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I really enjoy our little get togethers that we in Toronto have once in a >while. It's nice, as well, to meet the odd out-of-towner who swings this >way, like Paul Stenquist, Stan Halpin, or Mark Roberts (coming in April!). OK, looks like my Toronto trip is on. It's been moved up slightly: I'll be arriving on Thursday, 03 April and probably only staying one night due to my very restricted budget, so any get-together will have to be Thursday evening rather than Friday. I'd have preferred Friday (as would many others, no doubt) but that's the best I can do at the moment. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: The Hasselblad Foundation International Award in Photography
Bruce Rubenstein wrote: > > Most people would rather read a story than a technical manual. Most > people would rather read a matchbook cover than a technical manual. Most > people would rather read the writing on a baseball that was about to hit > them in the face than a technical manual. I write for those I want to > communicate with, and I don't worry about the flat plane thinkers. So, you focus on the fact of technical writing, instead of all the other facets I exposed, and you call ME a flat plane thinker? keith > BR > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> > >> > > I used to do technical manual writing > >
Re: Tactile Cameras
Sorry about this first sentence. Sometimes changing a sentence just doesn't go as it should. . . ;-( You're certainly not alone in that this being is at least part of the motivation for many amateurs. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: It's started!
This is a very intense, emotional time for most of us, no matter which side of this conflict we fall on. Let's keep the war out of our threads and stick to the main subject that finds all of us inside this "family". That would be photography and in particular, Pentax photography. DG At 08:19 PM 3/21/03 +0200, you wrote: piss off - Original Message - From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 8:06 PM Subject: It's started! > Anyone with access to CNN, go there now. Baghdad is getting creamed. > > Bill > >
Re: Disappointing test samples of Optio S
Herb Chong wrote: there really isn't because on a normal CRT, there usually are more a lot more dots than there are pixels on the screen. LCD monitors can be used only at their design resolution or lower. at lower resolutions, there are two choices, stretching or using only a portion of the monitor. stretching leads to all sorts of artifacts that are very ugly. using only a portion of the monitor wastes the point of using a high resolution LCD monitor. Unless it's an even fraction of the res. Ala 800x600 on 1600x1200. Herb - Original Message - From: "Keith Whaley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 06:38 Subject: Re: Disappointing test samples of Optio S I was just re-reading some of my mail, and when I came across this comment, I wondered, what is the dot pitch specification of your Sony LCD monitor? Or, is there any such?
Re: Tactile Cameras
You're certainly not alone in that this being is at least part of the motivation for many amateurs. For all of our arguments, Pentax cameras have a certain feel to them which many on this list find appealing. I think that the PZ-1P deviated most significantly from this feel and that affected sales. OTOH, I think the MZ-5n definitely had that feel and sold well. I think the MZ-S is there as well, but that seems to be not a general an opinion. As far as the color of the lenses are concerned, it bothers me that Pentax won't sell the black limiteds in the US. It strikes me as an annoying and silly decision, and that puts me off from buying one. Fortunately, I'm an amateur and can happily engage in this level of pouting ;-) Photography is my leisure time. I want to spend it working with equipment that pleases me. If I don't like the feel of the equipment, I won't want to use it. The best equipment in the world won't give good results if you hate it to the point of not using it. I have handled a lot of cameras that are technically superior to what I am using in most respects. Unfortunately, they have user interfaces that I dislike, or they feel like plastic fantastic crap. I tolerate the foibles of my 3 LX's because I enjoy using them more than any other 35mm camera I have tried out. I like cameras, not photography. Photography is a means to an end. The end is using equipment that pleases me, and gives me an excuse to travel to places I might not otherwise see. If I get a nice picture for the wall, or someone compliments one of my meager offerings to the PUG or Photosig, thats a bonus. However, I am probably in the minority. William Robb Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It's that time again
Oh yes indeedy Here are today's new toys, mostly Pentax, with a few oddities thrown in: Spotmatic SPII & 55 1.8 SMC - cased 28mm F2.8M 50mm F2.8 A Macro 28mm F2.8 A LX Winder KX Chrome KX Black Mamiya 7 Mk1 Mamiya 43mm & Finder for the 7 Leitz Apo Televid 77 scope Viewmaster Camera & Film cutter Might swap for a pair of 225/70/15s if anyone in UK is in the tyre business. Have a great weekend folks Peter
Re: Tactile Cameras
Similar here -- I really enjoy using the equipment itself, as much as I enjoy the actual photography. Or it's all tied up together, the way I see it. I fondly remember a trip to Toronto with a then-recently-acquired Contaflex Super, my first classic SLR; a cruise along the Thousand Islands and exploring Boldt Castle with a Kodak Stereo camera; photographing candids at a friend's wedding with a Leica IIIf and 50mm f/2 Summitar; and taking photos soon after my first daughter was born with a Pentax H3v and the Super-Takumar 50mm f/1.4. I don't know why my memories include such a strong bond with the equipment itself, but there you have it. Joe Photography is my leisure time. I want to spend it working with equipment that pleases me. If I don't like the feel of the equipment, I won't want to use it. The best equipment in the world won't give good results if you hate it to the point of not using it. I have handled a lot of cameras that are technically superior to what I am using in most respects. Unfortunately, they have user interfaces that I dislike, or they feel like plastic fantastic crap. I tolerate the foibles of my 3 LX's because I enjoy using them more than any other 35mm camera I have tried out. I like cameras, not photography. Photography is a means to an end. The end is using equipment that pleases me, and gives me an excuse to travel to places I might not otherwise see. If I get a nice picture for the wall, or someone compliments one of my meager offerings to the PUG or Photosig, thats a bonus. However, I am probably in the minority. William Robb
Re: The Hasselblad Foundation International Award in Photography
Most people would rather read a story than a technical manual. Most people would rather read a matchbook cover than a technical manual. Most people would rather read the writing on a baseball that was about to hit them in the face than a technical manual. I write for those I want to communicate with, and I don't worry about the flat plane thinkers. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used to do technical manual writing
Re: Pentax zoom 28-200
I've got the FA 28-200. I'm using it on either the MZ5 or on a Chinon CE4. I have frequently done shoots with this lens only, just for convenience. However on these two bodies it feels rather "front-heavy" which takes away some of the virtue of carrying one lens only. It comes with a hood which makes the whole set up almost intimidating to some people (or they think you must be a real "pro"...). It won't produce top quality in terms of sharpness and resolution, but it's not as bad as you'd expect from MTF resolution test numbers (very poor rating). (There are a number of other makers' 28-200 that have done better in tests, and for all I know may be even cheaper than the Pentax, why you may want to have a look around. I haven't been following what's been released lately, but I seem to recall someone (Tamron?) recently released one which is supposed to be "compact".) I suggest you try to find one and just try it on and decide. Personally I would gladly settle for a smaller say 28-135 mm if there is one. (I need at least as wide as 28, but I think I can make do without the 135-200 length. (That is, for particular needs I am also on the lookout for another tele zoom up to 300, or maybe 400). Good luck, Lasse - Original Message - From: "Clive evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 6:33 PM Subject: Pentax zoom 28-200, PDML beano, Mayor of Brighton, Horizon 202 > Hi people > > Ok so I want to add a travel zoom to my bag of k and m primes [well not add > to more substitute for] > I use MX [2], ME super and LX bodies so AF is not a > concern... > I've bough a 28-80 F it's fine thanks Rob , but still means I have to cart > too much wen i'm trying naot to ba pahotographer. > Sooo i'm thinking about a 28-200 [it's really aTamron in disguise I > think, horrible huge 72mm filter] > Would probabaly use it wit the ME super. > Anybody got one , hates it, likes it? > Other solutions? > > My vote for PDML beano has to be the south of France so I can show all of > those people who hate France what a really nice placeit is , and the food > has to be better than LV..OK Cyril? > > Peter, why stop at Mayor of Brighton, surely they still have lord > lieutenant of Sussex? > > > > Clive Evans > Antibes > France > > > ps Nick, i know the Horizon 202 is more expensive than a RF back for a 4x5, > but what if you haven't got a 4x5? [Hope the filter holder works OK by the > way] > >
Re: It's started!
BBC to. --- Bill Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone with access to CNN, go there now. Baghdad is > getting creamed. > > Bill > __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
RE: Fun with Optio S & Vegas it is
> I've been to Las Vegas several times...there is a canyon > nearby...Fire Canyon or Canyon of Fire...I wanted to go and > shoot the last time I was there, but time ran out. Wouldn't > mind a chance to try again. Red Rock Canyon is the closest, only 20 miles outside of Vegas. Fire Canyon might be a part of it (there are a bunch of different canyons on a loop road). We rented a convertible and drove out there, and then we drove out to Death Valley. Best part of our Vegas trip. Have fun! Amita
Re: PDML Germany request
Hi! I can help you, if you still need somebody to help ^_^ bye Katrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 21.03.2003, 14:31:44: > Hello folks. Can one of you German residents do me a favour? > > I need someone to accept a small parcel from a German ebay seller as they > will not ship outside their home country. Reasonable remuneration will be > available. > > Kind regards > > Peter
Re: The Hasselblad Foundation International Award in Photography
Dr E D F Williams wrote: > > You answered without thinking Keith. I see now why most people on this list > add funny faces to their messages to be sure they are not misunderstood. I'm a pretty literal sort of reader. I speak (write) with the intent to have others understand my meaning as clearly as possible. I sort of expect others to do the same. Ambiguity can creep in quickly when one starts being mildly sarcastic or is not watchful of his being obtuse. It happens too easily! When there's only visual text on a screen to get all nuances of one's communication intent across, one must resort to capitals or "emoticons" or some such thing, to express all the myriad emotions involved. So, yes, unless one interjects a or or one of the ubiquitous symbols like :^), there's no way to tell if something is said "tongue in cheek" or in jest. Sorry I misunderstood... > Now I'll explain in plain English: > > This photographer is great. I love his pictures. I am delighted he got the > award. I love 6 x 6 and have used it for forty years. I think Hasselblad is > good, I had one for years, but do think there are better 6 x 6 cameras. > > I was being facetious. Thank you. > If you think back a bit you'll remember the long > drawn out discussions about rules and format we had some months ago. Yes? Yes. > One of us wrote dozens of messages about why 6 x 6 was a waste of film. > Others wrote about rules ... ad nauseam. People were rude to each other. I recall that quite clearly, and ended up tossing most of the repeat messages after the first hundred or so. > And here we have a man who takes his pictures with the subjects slap in > the middle of the square frame, equal margins all round, and they look > wonderful! > > Got it? Oh yes, I got it! While I tend to offset my main subject in most of my photo compositions, and do generally find it more pleasing, one CAN get away with central subject composition, as that to which this photographer's photos attest! > Best, > > Don > > But I'll be buggered before I add those stupid little things to my posts. > > D I do understand, but if one doesn't provide for some way of expressing the richness and nuances of communication, they must be prepared to field the questions from those literal readers who misunderstand, like me! You did, and I thank you for it. I'll try to be more discerning and read between the lines next time. keith whaley
Last Update and Fire Sale (was RE: For Sale (lots of stuff))
Last shot or my dealer gets it. Prices reduced again. > > Add $10 shipping/insurance in the US. Will ship > > internationally, buyer > > pays actual cost. > > > > Buyer has 5 days to decide if item is as described. > > > > > > > > FA 20-35/4 Good condition. Glass is fine, barrel and hood > has scuffs > and light scratches. $290 > http://www.bigdayphoto.com/gear/2035-1.jpg > > > > FA 28-70/2.8 Cosmetics not so good. Zoom ring a little > loose. Optics > > fine. $430 > http://www.bigdayphoto.com/gear/2870-1.jpg > http://www.bigdayphoto.com/gear/2870-2.jpg > > > > > > FA 100/3.5 macro. Exc. $110 > http://www.bigdayphoto.com/gear/100-1.jpg > http://www.bigdayphoto.com/gear/100-2.jpg > > > > > > Quantum Turbo Z Battery w/ charger, mint - $160
PDML Germany request
Hello folks. Can one of you German residents do me a favour? I need someone to accept a small parcel from a German ebay seller as they will not ship outside their home country. Reasonable remuneration will be available. Kind regards Peter
