Re: test
this one did! ;-) - Original Message - From: Sylwek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 6:53 PM Subject: test My posts don't reach PDML :-( -- Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Polarizers...
På 7. jan. 2004 kl. 22.56 skrev Tanya Mayer Photography: Just a question in regards to polarizers... Can someone explain to me the difference between a circular and linear polarizer? Could I use a linear polarizer on my Oly which has internal AF ie. the lens doesn't rotate? A circular polarizer is in principle a linear polarizer with a depolarizer on the back, first filtering out light with a certain polarization and then depolarizing the light coming through the filter. It works on all cameras, but is a bit more expensive. Most modern cameras, and I think all AF cameras, have beam splitters in their AF-system (as well as their light meters). These beam splitters are polarization dependent. Therefore, to get correct metering and AF the light coming into the camera should not be polarized. Try placing a linear polarizer in front of another and rotate them relative to each other, and you see what you AF sensors or light meters will see if you put a linear polarizer on a modern camera. You can get anything from almost all the light through the second filter to absolute darkness, if the polarizers are good. DagT
Re: Blue skies...
on 08.01.04 2:10, Tanya Mayer Photography at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it likely that this type of shot really needs PS'ing to make the sky look so deep blue in colour? Should I try using a graduated filter of some sort? You can use light blue grad filter to enhance blue skies. If you use polarizer, just remember, that the best effect can be achieved, when the sun is straight on your left or right - at 90 to the axis of your lens. Keeping to this rule, I had many shots with deep blue skies without using any sort of blue grad filter. -- Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Ergonomics of *istD
Hi, for me, Pentax could change left side mode/WB/ISO wheel to the thingy in style of the one found in Z1P and Z1. It would be just superb for digital camera, as you would always be in shutter priority - even during changing ISO, WB, image quality, you could always back to photographing by just pressing shutter button - no need to turn the wheel to come back to one of exposure modes. And with this one solution many functions could be integrated in one convenient control wheel - no need to create more buttons, which start to confuse you if there are too many of them scattered around camera body. If they returned to known from Z1s hyper exposure modes, then they could back to that too instead of copying thing from Nikon D100 and similar cameras. -- Best Regards Sylwek
Re: twited pig
Hi! On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 08:56:05 + Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Twisted pig. Typing is NOT my first language. William Robb Time to start another brotherhood. Anyone esle? Coutn me in, brother Cotty. I offen make rahter funny misprnits. All ten of my figners are of differetn lentgh... Is there a rite of initiation? VBG Boris
Re: Re[4]: Cokin P Ultrawide
On another note, the bracket that you slide the filters into protrude so much it can cause vignetting even if the opening in the ring doesn't. On fully open aperture, that is. The 645-A 45/2.8 is like that, and so is the FA*24/2. I have a cut down holder I use on my 6x7 55mm f/4 (77mm filter thread). The grad ND filters work fine, the Cokin polarizer vignettes dramatically when the lens in stopped down. If I want to polarize, I have to use a screw-in Hoya polarizer with this lens. Adding the Cokin cut-down to the end of the Hoya vignettes :-( A bit of masking tape to hold the Cokin filters on the end of the polarizer works though. I use a normal holder on the 6x7 75mm f/4.5 (82mm filter thread). I haven't noticed any vignetting yet. In 35mm, the Cokin holder also works well with the K-24mm f/2.8 yet I've found that Hoya screw-in polarizers (52mm thread) vignette - completely the opposite to the 55mm 6x7! If I was to get a 6x7 45mm f/4 I'm pretty sure I would have to get a Lee filter system for it. In fact I may well standardize on Lee this year if I can persuade the finance department. Chris
Vs: 50mm Pentax Screwmount
Yeah, she would - but that does not mean that it would be a better photograph. It would be a standard nondescript snapshot. You do not always have to follow every rule in the book. With shorter focal lengths (and look how short focal lengths the top photojournalists are using these days) you are drawn into the subject´s space and it gives the image more impact. And it does not actually distort the image, it´s called perspective and everybody is getting used to it. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 08. tammikuuta 2004 0:14 Aihe: Vs: 50mm Pentax Screwmount On 7/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Nah, 50 mm at close up gives intimacy. ...and a black eye. Nobody likes their features, particularly noses, exaggerated. I don't buy it. I'm not saying that portraits can't be taken on *any* focal length. I shoot on a 38mm (equivalent) focal length quite regularly - but not on a tight head shot. Depends what you consider acceptable, of course, and I can't argue with that. What I can argue is that if you put that shot and a similar shot of longer focal length and ask her to pick one, she will choose the longer focal length with question. I would eat Frank's bunny ears if she didn't. ! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Vs: 50mm Pentax Screwmount
Shel, I find it hard to believe that you think that the purpose of a photo it to flatter. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 08. tammikuuta 2004 1:24 Aihe: Re: 50mm Pentax Screwmount Didn't object to the 50mm, just that it was too close. Very unflattering, IMO ... the nose is way out of proportion to the rest of the face. Looking at it again there's something unsettling about it ... it's subtle, but it looks like the angle of the head is skewed just a scosh, and that adds a certain tension that's not appropriate for this type of portrait. graywolf wrote: Well I have some problems with it too. Focus seems to be on the cheek well forward of the eyes. It is a square picture, is it heavily cropped or did he lie about the format? However, I have no problem with the focal length, most 35mm shooters use is too long a lens for portraits anyway. I will admitt it is about as short as I would go though.
RE: twited pig
FWIW, Odd thing is that while I type much faster now via touch typing, I am making far more errors than I did with my old hunt and peck method. I assume this will get better, I have only been touch typing for about six months... J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 3:56 AM To: pentax list Subject: Re: twited pig On 7/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Twisted pig. Typing is NOT my first language. William Robb Time to start another brotherhood. Anyone esle? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Blue skies...
on 08.01.04 2:10, Tanya Mayer Photography at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it likely that this type of shot really needs PS'ing to make the sky look so deep blue in colour? Should I try using a graduated filter of some sort? You can use light blue grad filter to enhance blue skies. If you use polarizer, just remember, that the best effect can be achieved, when the sun is straight on your left or right - at 90 to the axis of your lens. Keeping to this rule, I had many shots with deep blue skies without using any sort of blue grad filter. -- Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Ergonomics of *istD
Hi, for me, Pentax could change left side mode/WB/ISO wheel to the thingy in style of the one found in Z1P and Z1. It would be just superb for digital camera, as you would always be in shutter priority - even during changing ISO, WB, image quality, you could always back to photographing by just pressing shutter button - no need to turn the wheel to come back to one of exposure modes. And with this one solution many functions could be integrated in one convenient control wheel - no need to create more buttons, which start to confuse you if there are too many of them scattered around camera body. If they returned to known from Z1s hyper exposure modes, then they could back to that too instead of copying thing from Nikon D100 and similar cameras. -- Best Regards Sylwek
Re: test
they do! At 09:53 AM 8/01/2004 +0100, you wrote: My posts don't reach PDML :-( -- Best Regards Sylwek (*)o(*) Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: test
on 08.01.04 10:40, mapson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they do! Strange, apparently they don't come to my mailbox? I have to check it out, thanks for response! -- Pozdrowienia Sylwek
Re: AF 330 FTZ Flash.
On Thu, 8 Jan 2004, Trevor Bailey wrote: Makes for a bloody heavy outfit. Add to it the Cobra 750AF with the bracket (ie another 8 AAs) and you are off to the bodybuilding competition :-) Also, the MZ-7 appears to work with the appeture ring set to positions other than A. I was playing with it and the f number shows in the veiwfinder when the ring is moved. this didn't happen with the MZ-50. Does this mean that I can use lenses without the A? Yes. Welcome to the world of affordable and wonderful glass. Kostas
Re: Cheap bastards? -was: Down off my high-horse... with a thump.
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, Cotty wrote: Check this out: back in 1984 we had an assistant film editor who was engaged but the marriage was called off a few days before as the groom had decided he was gay and ran off with the best man. Beat that: wedding called off when the bride's father catches the groom-(not)-to-be wearing the bride's dress with the best man as close as it gets, IYSWIM. Newspaper story 4-5 years ago, and it was not the 1st of April. Kostas
Re: More moon shots
On 7 Jan 2004 at 23:10, Christian Skofteland wrote: I'd say Rob's image was sharper and better. I had the tripod set up on a wooden deck and think there was a lot of vibration/camera shake. It looks pretty good to me, but the bloody thing is up-side down :-) BTW you really really shouldn't put spaces in URLs. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
RE: Fw: wow!
On 7/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Pardon me, Whats a Pimm? Oh dear oh dear oh dear. http://www.viewlondon.co.uk/drink_feat_pimms.asp Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Francesco Scavullo passes on..
Hi, Scavullo made everyone he photographed look the same, in a way, so that the portraits became about him instead of his subjects. His subjects never look as though they've been in make-up. They look as though they've been in taxidermy. -- Cheers, Bob
RE: test
Subscribe from a different account. That will give you another place to look and see if your mail made it or not. PDML sometimes quits sending my replies to me for a time. I just check my other account to see if it's there. Len * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 -Original Message- From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 3:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: test on 08.01.04 10:40, mapson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they do! Strange, apparently they don't come to my mailbox? I have to check it out, thanks for response! -- Pozdrowienia Sylwek
Re: The beginnings of my calendar...
Hi, you might want to re-think the title of mrcowshat.html. I read it as Mr. Cow shat. Which, I suppose, is a country activity. Good idea though. Perhaps you could also introduce them to some crocs. g -- Cheers, Bob
Re: test
they do! Strange, apparently they don't come to my mailbox? I have to check it out, thanks for response! I noticed they come from 2 different addresses - maybe that is why (*)o(*) Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Blue skies...
that is the most controllable way. otherwise, two exposures, one for the people and one for the dark blue skies, and blend in Photoshop. or, you could just shoot without regard to sky and replace with artificial skies. there are plugins in Photoshop just for this purpose, once you mask off everything but the sky. if all else fails, you can buy stock photography of dark blue skies and clouds and blend. this is advertising, so anything goes. change way more for this. Herb... - Original Message - From: Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 9:20 PM Subject: Re: Blue skies... Ok, so what is the best way to underexpose? Using flash? Imagine that there will be kids in the foreground (it is for the fashion shoot), country backgrounds with wheat and sunflowers, maybe a horse or two.
Just got my ist D
Just got my ist D , now all I have to do is work out how to use it. Quick question my power zoom doesn't seem to work on it, is this correct. First impressions are good, though a better camera strap would have been good. No trouble getting the CF card in or out. Just have to work out if I have any other incompatible lens. Might be selling some on e bay soon. Regards Charles
digital grain?
Does the picture become more grainy or pixelated when shot on ISO 1600 (or 3200) compared with ISO 200? Obviously we assume that the picture is exposed correctly in both cases. (*)o(*) Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Just got my ist D
Yes, that's correct. Len --- * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 From: Charles Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just got my ist D , now all I have to do is work out how to use it. Quick question my power zoom doesn't seem to work on it, is this correct. _ Get reliable dial-up Internet access now with our limited-time introductory offer. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup
RE: digital grain?
Noise increases but pixellation doesn't. Len --- * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 From: mapson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does the picture become more grainy or pixelated when shot on ISO 1600 (or 3200) compared with ISO 200? Obviously we assume that the picture is exposed correctly in both cases. _ Check your PC for viruses with the FREE McAfee online computer scan. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: twited pig
I learned touch typing in the end of grade school, I believe, and didn't use it for years and years. Until I got a computer! That was in 1986. Since then, my typing speeds have improved dramatically, but the one trick I unfortunately picked up on is: watching the keyboard. My accuracy improved ten-fold, and the speed doesn't really suffer that much at all. I know it's a crutch, but if it's type fast and accurately time, for me it's watch the keyboard. keith whaley J. C. O'Connell wrote: FWIW, Odd thing is that while I type much faster now via touch typing, I am making far more errors than I did with my old hunt and peck method. I assume this will get better, I have only been touch typing for about six months... J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 3:56 AM To: pentax list Subject: Re: twited pig On 7/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Twisted pig. Typing is NOT my first language. William Robb Time to start another brotherhood. Anyone esle? Cheers, Cotty
Re: digital grain?
On 8 Jan 2004 at 22:20, mapson wrote: Does the picture become more grainy or pixelated when shot on ISO 1600 (or 3200) compared with ISO 200? Obviously we assume that the picture is exposed correctly in both cases. 200/3200 AWB http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/IMGP0605m.jpg Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Just got my ist D
Congratulations on the new camera Charles! It's true that the Power Zoom feature isn't supported on this camera but the lens still works, right? Now, let's see your first photos! :) Cory - Original Message - From: Charles Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 6:42 AM Subject: Just got my ist D Just got my ist D , now all I have to do is work out how to use it. Quick question my power zoom doesn't seem to work on it, is this correct. First impressions are good, though a better camera strap would have been good. No trouble getting the CF card in or out. Just have to work out if I have any other incompatible lens. Might be selling some on e bay soon. Regards Charles --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.559 / Virus Database: 351 - Release Date: 1/7/2004
Re: Just got my ist D
Just got my ist D , now all I have to do is work out how to use it. Quick question my power zoom doesn't seem to work on it, is this correct. Yes, the ist D does not have the power zoom contacts First impressions are good, though a better camera strap would have been good. No trouble getting the CF card in or out. Just have to work out if I have any other incompatible lens. Might be selling some on e bay soon. Regards Charles
Re: Francesco Scavullo passes on..
JC,JC,JC Ann was feeling triumphant that there was somebody else who didn't know of the man, and therefore one less person in the world that thought the sun shone out of his you know what... ;-) For the record, Ann, I'd never heard of him either! tan. Neither had I.
Re: 50mm Pentax Screwmount
At 11:39 PM 07/01/2004 -0500, you wrote: http://www.muddypawz.net/photos/CRW_3426_w.jpg ;-) Wendy Belgian Tervuren? Christian Spot on! Ch. Blackcomb's Dreaming of Ewe aged 1 year 4 months tomorrow. aka Tyra the tyrant or as the obedience instructor calls her the hellion or the bad dog. All terms of endearment :-) She's a little charmer really. Wendy Wendy Beard, Ottawa, Canada http://www.beard-redfern.com
Re: Down off my high-horse... with a thump.
Paul Ewins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 200km might be a little restrictive if you are trying to shoot motorsports :-) I'm fortunate to have two first-class tracks within that range; Laguna Seca and Sears Point. Theoretically, 200km gives me Albert Park (F1), Phillip Island (MotoGP), Sandown (V8 supercar), Calder (Drags) and Winton (V8 supercar) All right. I now officially hate both of you ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Laptop, portable burners and others.
This nifty gizmo just showed up on DP Review yesterday: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0401/04010501epsonp1000.asp -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: wedding photography...ugh!
wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 06:59 PM 07/01/2004 -0500, Shel wrote: One local lab here says cats and babies are what they see the most of ... year after year. Whenever I used to go into my local photoprocessing place, someone always used to ask More dog pictures?. My local camera shop has an in-house bulldog. Very ugly and very friendly. There are photos of it all over the store! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
RE: Photography: Fun or Profit????
J. C. O'Connell wrote: Another question: If you shoot for fun, what gives you the most fun, the shoot or the results or both? Landscape photography during the winter months, in foul weather. Nothing else, photographically, comes close to the enjoyment I have doing that. Malcolm
Re: Vs: 50mm Pentax Screwmount
I NEVER said that ... just that this particular photo is unflattering. Not at all the same thing. Raimo Korhonen wrote: Shel, I find it hard to believe that you think that the purpose of a photo it to flatter. All the best!
Re: Photography: Fun or Profit????
mapson wrote: You should know photographers are nasty people. They ask you to smile, in exchange they frame you, shoot you and then hang on the wall! You missed out the bit where they blow you up... S
RE: Francesco Scavullo passes on..
Neither had I. Ditto...and when I went to his site and saw that pic of Brooke Shields, all I could think was wow, look at that 80's hair...
Re: Fw: wow!
Wear something in silver mylar, complete with full head covering. Portable AC unit, solar powered. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Francesco Scavullo passes on..
Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neither had I. Ditto...and when I went to his site and saw that pic of Brooke Shields, all I could think was wow, look at that 80's hair... I'm so glad everyone is now confessing. I kept thinking Is this someone I should have heard of? Apparently not. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
RE: The Toughest Pentax
Bless you. Unlikely though. All traffic going onto Anglesey (or Ynys Mon - pr innis monn) now goes over the Britannia Bridge. You can still drive over the older Menai Bridge, but only in a car. There are weight restrictions on the poor thing Yep, that's the one I meant, the Britannia Bridge...
*ist D: hooray!
Keep watching Pentax websites :-) Sorry, I cannot tell more, so please don't ask. Dario Bonazza
Re: *ist D: hooray!
on 08.01.04 15:50, Dario Bonazza at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keep watching Pentax websites :-) Sorry, I cannot tell more, so please don't ask. Which one should we look more freuently and for how long? ;-) -- Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Photo-plagiarism
- Original Message - From: Naomi van der Lippe Subject: Photo-plagiarism Hi all Hope all the New Year's resolutions are holding up! I have seen a photo in a pamphlet on photography which I would like to re-create and, if successful, to display on PUG sometime. Would this not be seen as photo-plagiarism? I have seen zillions of beautiful photo's which I would love to try however I am always concern about the consequences. How do you guys feel about this? The only way I can take a good photo is to copy someone elses ideas. William Robb
Re: *ist D: hooray!
on 08.01.04 15:50, Dario Bonazza at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keep watching Pentax websites :-) Sorry, I cannot tell more, so please don't ask. Either new firmware, Photoshop RAW support or new RAW software :-) OK, I stand patient and wait :-) -- Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Photographing Rain
What's a risky rain? Carlos Nascimento wrote: The answer to you question is: 'it's depends'. If you want a 'risky' rain,
Re: It's Stopped Raining
Hi, Kostas wrote: Sorry, I missed the original post (and think it may not have been Dag T who wrote about the MZ-S): On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, Lon Williamson wrote: Dag T wrote: I was very impressed with the MZ-S in this respect. Coming out of well below 20degrees under zero into a warm and moist cafe, it produced enough condensation to soak about 30 paper napkins. I just kept mopping it off until it had warmed up sufficiently to cease creating. Which bits does one mop (and therefore check for condensation)? It was me. I put the lens cap on before going inside. All surfaces were beaded with moisture immediately and I spent about 20 minutes mopping it off. I concentrated on the areas of joints, where the moisture might penetrate the lens or body. The intervals between moppings got longer and longer, until it was not necessary any more. mike
Re: twited pig
On 7/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Twisted pig. Typing is NOT my first language. William Robb Time to start another brotherhood. Anyone esle? Esle? Cnotu em ni. m'I sa witted as nyaone. oYu have to eb chfie ewitt, thghou. )8- ekmi
Condensation Was:Re: It's Stopped Raining
Hi, Kostas wrote: Sorry, I missed the original post (and think it may not have been Dag T who wrote about the MZ-S): On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, Lon Williamson wrote: Dag T wrote: I was very impressed with the MZ-S in this respect. Coming out of well below 20degrees under zero into a warm and moist cafe, it produced enough condensation to soak about 30 paper napkins. I just kept mopping it off until it had warmed up sufficiently to cease creating. Which bits does one mop (and therefore check for condensation)? It was me. I put the lens cap on before going inside. All surfaces were beaded with moisture immediately and I spent about 20 minutes mopping it off. I concentrated on the areas of joints, where the moisture might penetrate the lens or body. The intervals between moppings got longer and longer, until it was not necessary any more. mike (sent this yesterday but it was returned @ 4.00am)
Re: *ist D: hooray!
Dario Bonazza a écrit: Keep watching Pentax websites :-) Sorry, I cannot tell more, so please don't ask. Dario, too much said, or not enough !! Arrrggg . Michel
fairygirl's off...
hehe, new the title of this thread would lead to some raised eyebrows. Just a quick note to let you all know that I am leaving at 5am (*eek, that is only 3 hours away, I'd better get some sleep!), to shoot a wedding 4 hours away. I won't be back for a day or two and then have a pretty heavy shooting schedule until mid-next week. So, please don't think I am being rude by not responding to emails. Hmmm, if only I had that laptop... Speaking of which, I won an auction tonight for one and the seller won't sell it to me - I'll fill you in on the story when I get back, but I have already reported him to Ebay... 'night! Tan.
Re: Photographing Rain
Something like if you have Scratched out. Is a effect provided by the movement os the drops while the shutter is open... []'s, CN What's a risky rain?
Vs: Vs: 50mm Pentax Screwmount
I fail to see the difference - you condemn the photo because it is UNflattering - you would accept it if it were flattering. O.E.D. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 08. tammikuuta 2004 16:22 Aihe: Re: Vs: 50mm Pentax Screwmount I NEVER said that ... just that this particular photo is unflattering. Not at all the same thing. Raimo Korhonen wrote: Shel, I find it hard to believe that you think that the purpose of a photo is to flatter. All the best!
Re: *ist D: hooray!
Bloody hell. Don't tell me i need to clear another enablement with my Beloved Wife! Quoting Dag T [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think the 16-45 was scheduled today or something like that... DagT På 8. jan. 2004 kl. 16.20 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ah, yes. When is this firmware update due to appear? Quoting Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Keep watching Pentax websites :-) Sorry, I cannot tell more, so please don't ask. Dario Bonazza - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Re: *ist D: hooray!
Hi Dag, on 08 Jan 04 you wrote in pentax.list: I think the 16-45 was scheduled today or something like that... The first 16-45 are already shipped here in Germany. That shouldn't be the hooray-news. Dario - please... Cheers, Heiko
Re: Singapore? (Very long: A reasonably detailed walkthrough..)
On Wednesday, Jan 7, 2004, at 17:08 America/New_York, Stan Halpin wrote: Ryan - thanks for the detailed reply! Rob, Bob, thanks also. All good information which I hope to have a chance to put to use. I am going (probably) for a three-day meeting, may get one day on front end, one day after the meeting, maybe a few hours to myself in the evenings. I'll read your posts in detail and let you know if I have any specific questions. Stan, I just got back from Singapore. Ryan has already given you a better description than what the tourist board puts out. :-) A couple more things: When you get off the plane, keep an eye out for the tourist brochures at the airport. The official map is useful and there is also a pamphlet of special offers for visitors. Some of the deals are pretty good. Keep an eye out for discounts if you pay by certain credit cards: I came across a number of establishments that give discounts if you pay the bill using a credit card issued by certain banks. The discounts can be quite substantial (15% at one restaurant I went to). The Asian Civilizations Museums (http://www.nhb.gov.sg/ACM/acm.shtml) are wonderful, although the technology in there doesn't work very well --- just don't let it bother you. The Empress Place location is right across the Fullerton Hotel and on the riverfront. You can spend several hours at the museum and then as evening approaches, either hang around the cafes at the riverfront or walk through the Civic District towards the Esplanade and soak in the changing colors. You could also try a ride on one of the bumboats. The Duck Tour (http://www.ducktours.com.sg/) should give you a very brief overview of the Civic District and a pleasant hour-long sightseeing ride. Chinese New Year comes early this year (January 22, I think) so the Christmas decorations have barely been taken down but the New Year ones are already up. The streets in Chinatown are lit up and the night markets are on. Have fun and shoot lots of photos. Watch out for pickpockets and wallet snatchers, though. --jc
Re: It's Stopped Raining
On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, mike.wilson wrote: Kostas wrote: Which bits does one mop (and therefore check for condensation)? It was me. I put the lens cap on before going inside. All surfaces were beaded with moisture immediately and I spent about 20 minutes mopping it off. I concentrated on the areas of joints, where the moisture might penetrate the lens or body. Am I right to infer that you don't need to remove the lens to dry the insides? What are the chances of condensation forming inside a (zoom perhaps) lens? I read something about using an airtight bag to bring the camera in. How airtight need it be? Supermarket bags for example have holes for the kids not to suffocate in a flash. In general, I only take the camera out when we are above zero temperatures. Unlike Shel, I had about 8 non-flash pictures in the last 74 that I took delivery of today :-( Not happy. Kostas
Re: Vs: Vs: 50mm Pentax Screwmount
Not necessarily ... it might be a flattering portrait but still fail as a photograph on other grounds. Example: one of my earliest photos was of a young, blonde child in her mother's arms. It still moves me to this day. But it was a failure on so many technical grounds ... way over exposed, slightly out of focus, poor printing and darkroom technique. Yet, while the photo did flatter the child, it is one that I'd condemn on technical grounds, and it is one that I've never shown publicly. Raimo Korhonen wrote: I fail to see the difference - you condemn the photo because it is UNflattering - you would accept it if it were flattering. O.E.D.
Re: *ist D: hooray!
What I was thinking of was this: http://www.pentaxusa.com/news/news_display.cfm?pressid=169 PENTAX U.S.A. will preview the lens at the PEPCOM Digital Focus media event on January 7 in Las Vegas during the 2004 Consumer Electronics Show. Maybe there is more... DagT P 8. jan. 2004 kl. 17.19 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Bloody hell. Don't tell me i need to clear another enablement with my Beloved Wife! Quoting Dag T [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think the 16-45 was scheduled today or something like that... DagT P 8. jan. 2004 kl. 16.20 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ah, yes. When is this firmware update due to appear? Quoting Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Keep watching Pentax websites :-) Sorry, I cannot tell more, so please don't ask. Dario Bonazza - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Re: Blue skies...
On Wednesday, Jan 7, 2004, at 20:10 America/New_York, Tanya Mayer Photography wrote: I will be completing the shoot (not the wedding, but the one where the client has requested the blue skies etc) digitally, so I would also love to know if anyone else has had any success achieving this result digitally? Lee Varis has a new tutorial on this: http://www.varis.com/Navigation/Steps.html Click on the link that says Sky Project. US$9.95 for a 33-page tutorial sounds reasonable to me. There are also some free tutorials on the site. --jc
RE: Blue skies...
Tan, I just wanted to thank you for asking this question. I have had the same problem with blue skies and I have enjoyed the responses you have received to the query. It sounds like there are several potential solutions, but if you are shooting digital anyway I would lean towards PS. And thank you to everyone else for your suggestions. I will be trying several of them. David Madsen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.davidmadsen.com
Re: It's Stopped Raining
På 8. jan. 2004 kl. 17.16 skrev Kostas Kavoussanakis: On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, mike.wilson wrote: Kostas wrote: Which bits does one mop (and therefore check for condensation)? It was me. I put the lens cap on before going inside. All surfaces were beaded with moisture immediately and I spent about 20 minutes mopping it off. I concentrated on the areas of joints, where the moisture might penetrate the lens or body. Am I right to infer that you don't need to remove the lens to dry the insides? What are the chances of condensation forming inside a (zoom perhaps) lens? I read something about using an airtight bag to bring the camera in. How airtight need it be? Supermarket bags for example have holes for the kids not to suffocate in a flash. In general, I only take the camera out when we are above zero temperatures. Unlike Shel, I had about 8 non-flash pictures in the last 74 that I took delivery of today :-( Not happy. I prefer another method. Just wrap the camera in wool. It absorbs the condensation and smoothens the temperature changes. Never take the lens of during the condensation period. DagT
Re: Blue skies...
Hmmm magic wand might work, but select color or selecting similar may work a bit better, depending on the foreground. Actually, once the sky is selected, it might be ok to invert the selection and copy the foreground to a pic of a great sky, nice clouds, good contrast and deep blues ... while I've not tried it, the cloud filter in PS might work if there's a cloudless sky. Lots of ways to get a good sky. William Robb wrote: I would just shoot the darned thing and use some of the Photoshop tools to adjust the sky to what I want. Perhaps the magic wand tool to select the sky, then some levels and curves corrections to bring it to where you want it. If your a Christian girl, pray for clouds. You might also try going into hue/saturation click the drop down level menu under edit and play around with the blue and or the cyan levels. If there isn't a lot of blue elsewhere you may be able to get away without selecting the sky otherwise use the lasso or magic wand tool to select. Butch
Re: twited pig
Atcalluy, I ocne raed smoweehre taht as lnog as the frsit and lsat letetrs of a wrod are wehre tehy are spuopesd to be, an aevarge preson wuold be albe to raed the senetnce nroamlly.. I was qiute aamezd. :-) Ry - Original Message - From: mike.wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 9:48 PM Subject: Re: twited pig On 7/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Twisted pig. Typing is NOT my first language. William Robb Time to start another brotherhood. Anyone esle? Esle? Cnotu em ni. m'I sa witted as nyaone. oYu have to eb chfie ewitt, thghou. )8- ekmi
Re: fairygirl's off...
Hey did you check out the ad I found in the NSW trading post? Have a good trip btw! Ryan - Original Message - From: Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 1:57 AM Subject: fairygirl's off... hehe, new the title of this thread would lead to some raised eyebrows. Just a quick note to let you all know that I am leaving at 5am (*eek, that is only 3 hours away, I'd better get some sleep!), to shoot a wedding 4 hours away. I won't be back for a day or two and then have a pretty heavy shooting schedule until mid-next week. So, please don't think I am being rude by not responding to emails. Hmmm, if only I had that laptop... Speaking of which, I won an auction tonight for one and the seller won't sell it to me - I'll fill you in on the story when I get back, but I have already reported him to Ebay... 'night! Tan.
Re: Singapore? (Very long: A reasonably detailed walkthrough..)
About humidity and heat... Expect day time temperatures in the eighties or nineties Fahrenheit. Humidity is around the 70% to 90% range. Frequently, there'll be a mid-afternoon thunderstorm to cool off the evening. Umbrellas are pretty much useless ... be prepared to protect your gear. In the city, that's not a problem...just duck into a building and wait for the rain to pass. The other thing that plays havoc with your equipment is the condensation you get when you get out of an air-conditioned building (most are, thankfully) and heat outside. You'll have to wait for the condensation to clear from the lens before you start shooting, or else you'll get some neat special effects. Don't be surprised to pick up your luggage from the airport and find it wet. Most likely it isn't rain. It's just condensation. --jc
My Purchase Came!! Was:Re: *ist D: hooray!
Dario you TEASE!!! Well, I just took posession last night of my brand new *ist D! i spent about 3 hours opening boxes, and playing. Took about 250 pics! Anyone interested in the results of an ist D with a fisheye lens, check out at http://www.kanescience.com/personal/istD1/ Warning, this index.htm file may be large, it has thumbnails for 158 images on it. Warning v.2.0, pictures included contain babies. Warning v.3.0, upload was not completed, so some pictures may be missing. IL Bill -- Original Message --- From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 15:50:30 +0100 Subject: *ist D: hooray! Keep watching Pentax websites :-) Sorry, I cannot tell more, so please don't ask. Dario Bonazza --- End of Original Message ---
Re: Photographing Rain
Rain, down where you would be photographing it, will be pretty much falling at a constant velocity. Gravity (constant acceleration) is only for the case of objects falling in a vacuum. In a fluid (air) an equilibrium is reached between the force of gravity and drag. The velocity the object reaches is know as terminal velocity. To get the rain drops to show up well you have to light them. You dont need flash, but you do need light. Have the light come from the side so it doesnt reflect straight back, or light up the foreground. A high powered flash light might even do. BR From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want to catch the rain falling in a photograph. My attempts at this have all been failures. Any suggestions for getting those raindrops on film? Is there an ideal shutter speed? Or might the speed be relative to the intensity of the rain? Do raindrops always fall at the same speed (thinking of early experiments with falling objects, gravity)?
Re: twited pig
Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 08:56:05 + Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Twisted pig. Typing is NOT my first language. William Robb Time to start another brotherhood. Anyone esle? Coutn me in, brother Cotty. I offen make rahter funny misprnits. All ten of my figners are of differetn lentgh... Is there a rite of initiation? VBG Boris Over on the SCRABBLE list I'm the queen of typos (maybe here, too:) ) spellcheck rescuse me sometimes excpte when a word anagrams or I hit the ignore button instead of the replace button. When I was back working in Market Research I made a few embarrassing ones all the numbers I produced were right, but I once called BRIM freeze dried coffee (one of the General Foods labels) GRIM. IT was only in a footnote on the table, and they loved me at GF so the project boss was kind when she asked me to redo the printout, saying However true it may be. A fave that wasn't mine, but the keypuncher's goof was the toothpaste that prevented _plague_ (of course, she only typed that because she couldn't read my handwriting :) annsan
Re: Not wedding photography ...
this one is almost artistic http://home.powertech.no/pervo/imagepages/nokiaimage23.htm - Original Message - From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 2:03 PM Subject: Re: Not wedding photography ... A fineart group of photographers in Norway has embraced it: http://home.powertech.no/pervo/bromweb/nokia2.htm Their website is in Norwegian, but the link is directly to their mobCam gallery. Jostein - Pictures at: http://oksne.net - - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 6:48 PM Subject: Not wedding photography ... but something quite the opposite: cell phone photography ROTFLMAO Some call it art, some call it crap, some just get a busy signal when the call ... http://www.mobog.com/
Re: wedding photography...ugh!
Mark Roberts wrote: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anything in the world that has been the subject of photography *more* than weddings? Houses for sale? School photos. bare-bottomed ladies HAve you seen Calendar Girls yet?? :) I think this last suggestion comes closest! ...but considering how many photos are taken of *each* wedding, I still expect weddings win for total number of photos. Not that I'm interested in doing the research to find out for certain! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com Oh Mark and here I thought you were doing research on quotes from women PDML'ers :) annsan
Re: Blue skies...
Tanya asked how to make deep blue skies, high contrast and fluffy white clouds. Tanya, polarizing filters work best when the camera is pointed at a 90 degree angle to the direction of the sunlight. I suggest that you use a high contrast film and a polarizing filter pointed in the right direction. Tom Reese
Re: *ist D: hooray!
I bet the *ist D are going to come in colors like the Hasselblads. ;-) Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: *ist D: hooray!
Finally, there must be a version for lefthanders coming out. g Matja I bet the *ist D are going to come in colors like the Hasselblads. ;-) Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: twited pig
Hi, If we were really trying, we would be discussing twited pugs. mike
Re: *ist D: hooray!
As much as I not really know, the coming *ist D news may really be worth a HHHOORRRAAAYYY Arnold
Re: It's Stopped Raining
Hi, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: Am I right to infer that you don't need to remove the lens to dry the insides? What are the chances of condensation forming inside a (zoom perhaps) lens? I read something about using an airtight bag to bring the camera in. How airtight need it be? Supermarket bags for example have holes for the kids not to suffocate in a flash. Dead right. You would then certainly get condensation on the inside. I found, using the method outlined, that there was none. Might be different for you. If you use a bag, it needs to be completely airtight, or there is no point. It would be best if it was as empty of air as possible, too. In general, I only take the camera out when we are above zero temperatures. Unlike Shel, I had about 8 non-flash pictures in the last 74 that I took delivery of today :-( Not happy. You are missing (at least, in the UK) half the fun mike Founder member, The Secret Pentax Society of twited pigs
Re: Photographing Rain
Hi, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I want to catch the rain falling in a photograph. My attempts at this have all been failures. Any suggestions for getting those raindrops on film? Is there an ideal shutter speed? Or might the speed be relative to the intensity of the rain? Do raindrops always fall at the same speed (thinking of early experiments with falling objects, gravity)? The best (most expressive) pictures I've seen have been taken on sunny days (!) with the rain backlit to show up as light streaks against a dark background. Speeds of 125 down to vary the length of the streaks. If you can't get it backlit against a dark background (or even if you can) adding a little milk to the rain increases its visibility, according to Gene Kelly. mike -- Founder member, The Secret Pentax Society of twited pigs
Re: Laptop, portable burners and others.
This nifty gizmo just showed up on DP Review yesterday: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0401/04010501epsonp1000.asp Sweet. Put a 40GB drive in it, and .PEF support, and I'd be seriously tempted. But 10GB is definitely on the small size. Mind you, I'm not interested in direct connection to an Epson printer, so I expect somebody else will match the display quality in a cheaper, higher-capacity unit.
Re: Photographing Rain
b_rubenstein wrote: Shel Belinkoff asked: Do raindrops always fall at the same speed (thinking of early experiments with falling objects, gravity)? Rain, down where you would be photographing it, will be pretty much falling at a constant velocity. Gravity (constant acceleration) is only for the case of objects falling in a vacuum. Not sure whether that was the question, or whether he meant to ask about the speed of raindrops in different storms. The size of the raindrop will affect its terminal velocity (shape too, but in the case of raindrops that's determined by the size anyhow), so small raindrops will fall at a different speed than large ones. An example of the extreme case of this: if the drops get small enough, they barely fall at all, and you get mist instead of really rainy rain. As BR pointed out, all of this goes out the window in a vacuum (yeah, yeah, imagery inadvertent but cute enough to leave in anyhow), where size and shape no loner matter and there's no terminal velocity so things keep accellerating until they hit. Completely off-topic trivia: terminal velocity for a human (in air, in Earth gravity) in spread-eagle position is somewhere around 70 MPH. I'm not sure, but I think I heard it's about double that for a streamlined headfirst dive. (And a Hell of a lot slower after pulling the doohickey that lets the parachute open, of course.) -- Glenn
RE: wedding photography...ugh!
I think this is the longest thread I have seen since I joined this group, but I'm gonna comment anyway. Back when I used to play in a band we had a saying we would repeat before every show, Play it the way we rehearsed it. It means that people who knew our music came to hear our music, not to hear us butcher our music. It is the same with wedding photography. People hire me after they have seen my portfolio and they want me to do the same thing for them that they saw in that portfolio. I try to be creative where I can, but...that's why I do weddings primarily for the money. I enjoy it to the extent that I love photography and I am getting paid to do what I love, but I'd rather be shooting a nice casual portrait where I can be creative (and just re-shoot it if the customer does not agree with my creative vision). David Madsen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.davidmadsen.com
Re: Laptop, portable burners and others.
John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This nifty gizmo just showed up on DP Review yesterday: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0401/04010501epsonp1000.asp Sweet. Put a 40GB drive in it, and .PEF support, and I'd be seriously tempted. I'll bet both are coming. But 10GB is definitely on the small size. I think it's enough for a day's shooting for most people; a dump onto a laptop PC would follow. Mind you, I'm not interested in direct connection to an Epson printer, so I expect somebody else will match the display quality in a cheaper, higher-capacity unit. There will certainly be competitors, but I expect everyone will offer direct printing as it probably adds *very* little (if anything) to the cost. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Truth in photography (was: OT - Digital B/W or Colour ?)
Kevin! You paint with light! Cor swipe me! Are you saying that you don't take snaps??? One day I'm going to have to digitize the Tony Hancock sketch with all this in and you can all have a listen... I am not sure what I have done to upset you, but whatever it was I can assure you it was unintentional. At no time to I set forward to deliberately upset people. What ever the issue is, if you would like to contact me off the list, I would be more than happy to discuss any issue you have with my behavior on this list. Again, my sincere apologies Kevin Er, I think there has been a small misunderstanding - a while back (actually might be more than a while) I used to have a sig that said: Swipe me! He paints with light! it is a line from a Tony Hancock (Brit comedian from the 50s/60s) radio show called 'Hancock's Half Hour'. They did sketches and skits and one was about a la-di-da society photographer doing some of Hancock's latest publicity stills. In the sketch, Hancock and his manager (Sydney James) encounter photographer Hilary St Claire (played by Kenneth Williams) and the following exchange takes place... - Syd: Yeah, well. Look Hilary, I've got a customer here for you. Hilary: (eyeing Hancock) Rather perculiar friends you have Sydney. Most quaint. Syd: Yeah, well, don't start a punch-up Hilary. I want you to take some snaps. Hilary: Snaps, Sydney?? I don't take snaps! I paint with light! Tony: (mocking in a high-pitched voice) Oh swipe me, he paints with light! (pause - aside to Syd) Paints with light. Hilary: I don't think I like your friend Sydney. I wish I hadn't snapped, I mean photographed him. I think I should open the camera and let the light in! Syd: Now calm down Hilary. All we want is a set of publicity photos. I want you to get the best out of him. Hilary: Oh, let's have a look then. (to Hancock) I say, you. Stand under my arc lights. Hmm. Turn around. Ugh! Heavens. I'm going to have to use a lot of shadow. There's sort of a lot to hide, isn't there! -- I used to have this on my website. I stupidly forget that not everyone on the PDML knows everything that I have previously written, and so it is me who must apologise. If you'd like to read the whole sketch, please email me off list and I will email it to you, and anyone else that would like to see it, lest we disturb Mr Dayton with the dreaded British humour :-) Best, Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Not wedding photography ...
Hi, Thursday, January 8, 2004, 5:11:44 PM, you wrote: this one is almost artistic http://home.powertech.no/pervo/imagepages/nokiaimage23.htm bearing in mind that 'almost' is a euphemism for 'not'. Bob
Re: Vs: 50mm Pentax Screwmount
On 8/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Cotty wrote: I would eat Frank's bunny ears if she didn't. With or without catchup? UURGH. Catchup??? GROSS. Mustard. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: It's Stopped Raining
Pretty tightly sealed. A Ziplock bag of the right size works nicely. Len --- * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 the camera in. How airtight need it be? Supermarket bags for example have holes for the kids not to suffocate in a flash. _ Check your PC for viruses with the FREE McAfee online computer scan. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
RE: twited pig
On 8/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: FWIW, Odd thing is that while I type much faster now via touch typing, I am making far more errors than I did with my old hunt and peck method. I assume this will get better, I have only been touch typing for about six months... JC, ROTFL! I knew there was proper nomenclature for my sub-species of the human race. Finally I am identified: Hello, I'm a Hunter Pecker, how'd you do! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Vs: 50mm Pentax Screwmount
Nah, 50 mm at close up gives intimacy. ...and a black eye. Nobody likes their features, particularly noses, exaggerated. I don't buy it. I'm not saying that portraits can't be taken on *any* focal length. I shoot on a 38mm (equivalent) focal length quite regularly - but not on a tight head shot. Depends what you consider acceptable, of course, and I can't argue with that. What I can argue is that if you put that shot and a similar shot of longer focal length and ask her to pick one, she will choose the longer focal length with question. I would eat Frank's bunny ears if she didn't. Yeah, she would - but that does not mean that it would be a better photograph. It would be a standard nondescript snapshot. You do not always have to follow every rule in the book. With shorter focal lengths (and look how short focal lengths the top photojournalists are using these days) you are drawn into the subject´s space and it gives the image more impact. And it does not actually distort the image, it´s called perspective and everybody is getting used to it. I don't follow every rule in the book, never have, never will. I have also used wide focal lengths for portraiture, so where's the problem? I'll write it again: depends what you consider acceptable. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: BMP Scans
Hi! I have some 500+ messages worth of backlog. So I bear with me g. You know, shooting at friend's wedding has its toll bg. SB A 24mb JPEG isn't that large - color film, right? I think I was getting 48+mb SB with the Coolscan from Leica and LX negatives. Oh wait, that was with TIFF or SB PSD files. Why do you want such small files as 6mb? Why JPEG files and not TIFF SB or PSD? I was talking in megaPixels, not megaBytes. As I said, one of the problems with local labs is that you don't have any control on what and how they do. You can only hope to get half decent result and salvage the rest with PhotoShop or such. You see, since I don't sell my stuff, they have no real monetary interest except getting done with my (or any one else's) films as fast as they can getting their money and collecting their profit... SB Which lab are you using? I've just been talking with my friend in TA about just SB that issue ... getting the lab to tweak the scans or prints. The better labs SB here will do that, even provide their color profiles if that's appropriate or SB needed. Currently I am only using the lab to process the film, which I hope eventually will also be done by me. I have a friend who's about to set up his own processing equipment at home. I will learn with/from him and then see where I'd go. I scan at home on Epson 2450 at 2400 dpi (maximal optical resolution) resulting in about 36 Mbyte (6 Mpixel) of PSD file (6 MPixel * 6 bytes per pixel (16 bit per color * 3) = 36 Mbyte). For my amateur purposes it is more than enough. Sorry for being rather late. Boris
Re: twited pig
On 8/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Atcalluy, I ocne raed smoweehre taht as lnog as the frsit and lsat letetrs of a wrod are wehre tehy are spuopesd to be, an aevarge preson wuold be albe to raed the senetnce nroamlly.. I was qiute aamezd. :-) Bolody hlel Ry, taht wkros! I clound't blivee how fsat I raed taht. Ncie one. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Vs: 50mm Pentax Screwmount
Yep. And I think the picture was OK - more than OK IMO. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 08. tammikuuta 2004 20:42 Aihe: Vs: 50mm Pentax Screwmount Nah, 50 mm at close up gives intimacy. ...and a black eye. Nobody likes their features, particularly noses, exaggerated. I don't buy it. I'm not saying that portraits can't be taken on *any* focal length. I shoot on a 38mm (equivalent) focal length quite regularly - but not on a tight head shot. Depends what you consider acceptable, of course, and I can't argue with that. What I can argue is that if you put that shot and a similar shot of longer focal length and ask her to pick one, she will choose the longer focal length with question. I would eat Frank's bunny ears if she didn't. Yeah, she would - but that does not mean that it would be a better photograph. It would be a standard nondescript snapshot. You do not always have to follow every rule in the book. With shorter focal lengths (and look how short focal lengths the top photojournalists are using these days) you are drawn into the subject´s space and it gives the image more impact. And it does not actually distort the image, it´s called perspective and everybody is getting used to it. I don't follow every rule in the book, never have, never will. I have also used wide focal lengths for portraiture, so where's the problem? I'll write it again: depends what you consider acceptable. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Laptop, portable burners and others.
John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This nifty gizmo just showed up on DP Review yesterday: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0401/04010501epsonp1000.asp Sweet. Put a 40GB drive in it, and .PEF support, and I'd be seriously tempted. I'll bet both are coming. But 10GB is definitely on the small size. I think it's enough for a day's shooting for most people; a dump onto a laptop PC would follow. I want something large enough so that I've got multiple copies of the image until I've burned it off onto CD or DVD - I really, *really* try to avoid a single point of failure at any time. (For example, I don't re-use a compact flash card or microdrive until I've copied the image files to both the portable drive and to my laptop). Even after dumping to the laptop I'll keep images on the portable hard drive for a while until I've had time to sit down and make the backups onto more permanent media. That's a great deal easier now I have a notebook with a CD burner. I actually bought an Archos 20GB USB hard drive some years ago for just that purpose, even though in those days I only had a 3MP digital camera. I no longer use it because it doesn't work well with XP, and because the battery charging circuit has died. But the nice thing about a 20GB drive was that I'd enough space for images, and could still use 5-10 GB for MP3 audio files so I had something to listen to on the road. When I get a replacement (with a viewing screen, and a direct CF reader - both functions the Archos didn't offer) I'll look for a unit with enough space to have room for audio, too.
Re: Fw: wow!
That's merely a perception. Don't Yukkk until you've had one! Of course, if you're a staunch CocaCola enthusiast, all bets are off. keith graywolf wrote: So Pimms are premixed cocktails? Yuck! -- Cotty wrote: On 7/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Pardon me, Whats a Pimm? Oh dear oh dear oh dear. http://www.viewlondon.co.uk/drink_feat_pimms.asp Cheers, Cotty
Vs: 50mm Pentax Screwmount
On 8/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Yep. And I think the picture was OK - more than OK IMO. And I think the picture could be vastly improved. All the best! Same to you! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Fw: wow!
On 8/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: So Pimms are premixed cocktails? Yuck! Pimm's was invented in the 1840s, by the owner of an oyster bar in the City of London. James Pimm offered the tonic (which was a gin based drink containing quinine and a secret mixture of herbs) as an aid to digestion, and served it in a small tankard. This is where the No. 1 Cup moniker arose. Later in the century he began to produce it commercially, and it rapidly caught on amongst the upper and middle classes. The early 20th century saw Pimm's appealing to a new audience, as US servicemen posted to Britain picked up on a drink that closely mirrored some of the cocktails they'd been used to back home. After the Second World War, Pimms extended their range, utilising a number of other spirits as bases for new cups. No. 2 cup was based on Scotch, No. 3 employed brandy, No. 4 rum, No. 5 rye and No. 6 vodka. The only one of the variants still in production is the vodka cup, No. 6, although this is made in much smaller quantities than the original No. 1 cup. http://www.viewlondon.co.uk/drink_feat_pimms.asp So, to re-cap: a gin based drink containing quinine and a secret mixture of herbs a gin based drink containing quinine and a secret mixture of herbs a gin based drink containing quinine and a secret mixture of herbs a gin based drink containing quinine and a secret mixture of herbs a gin based drink containing quinine and a secret mixture of herbs a gin based drink containing quinine and a secret mixture of herbs a gin based drink containing quinine and a secret mixture of herbs a gin based drink containing quinine and a secret mixture of herbs a gin based drink containing quinine and a secret mixture of herbs and just in case there was any mistake: a gin based drink containing quinine and a secret mixture of herbs Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Fw: wow!
- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: Fw: wow! and just in case there was any mistake: a gin based drink containing quinine and a secret mixture of herbs No mistake, it's a premixed gin and tonic that tastes like chicken. William Robb
Re: Photographing Rain
On 8 Jan 2004 at 16:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rain, down where you would be photographing it, will be pretty much falling at a constant velocity. Gravity (constant acceleration) is only for the case of objects falling in a vacuum. In a fluid (air) an equilibrium is reached between the force of gravity and drag. The velocity the object reaches is know as terminal velocity. To get the rain drops to show up well you have to light them. You dont need flash, but you do need light. Have the light come from the side so it doesnt reflect straight back, or light up the foreground. A high powered flash light might even do. Or wait for a Sun-shower. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Fw: wow!
Err, let's see now. . . A couple of ounces of Boodles in a tall glass, 4 oz or so of Schweppes Tonic Water or Bitter Lemon, Dip my li'l ol' savory swizzle stick, coated wih herbs, in the mix for a few and stir the heck out of it. . . Sip. Mm. Good stuff! Almost like a No 1 Cup, no longer available. . . keith Cotty wrote: On 8/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: So Pimms are premixed cocktails? Yuck! Pimm's was invented in the 1840s, by the owner of an oyster bar in the City of London. James Pimm offered the tonic (which was a gin based drink containing quinine and a secret mixture of herbs) as an aid to digestion, and served it in a small tankard. This is where the No. 1 Cup moniker arose. Later in the century he began to produce it commercially, and it rapidly caught on amongst the upper and middle classes. The early 20th century saw Pimm's appealing to a new audience, as US servicemen posted to Britain picked up on a drink that closely mirrored some of the cocktails they'd been used to back home. After the Second World War, Pimms extended their range, utilising a number of other spirits as bases for new cups. No. 2 cup was based on Scotch, No. 3 employed brandy, No. 4 rum, No. 5 rye and No. 6 vodka. The only one of the variants still in production is the vodka cup, No. 6, although this is made in much smaller quantities than the original No. 1 cup. http://www.viewlondon.co.uk/drink_feat_pimms.asp So, to re-cap: a gin based drink containing quinine and a secret mixture of herbs a gin based drink containing quinine and a secret mixture of herbs a gin based drink containing quinine and a secret mixture of herbs a gin based drink containing quinine and a secret mixture of herbs a gin based drink containing quinine and a secret mixture of herbs a gin based drink containing quinine and a secret mixture of herbs a gin based drink containing quinine and a secret mixture of herbs a gin based drink containing quinine and a secret mixture of herbs a gin based drink containing quinine and a secret mixture of herbs and just in case there was any mistake: a gin based drink containing quinine and a secret mixture of herbs Cheers, Cotty
Re: Monitor latitude
On 8 Jan 2004 at 20:32, Anders Hultman wrote: As you can see, it's the same picture but the second one is made brighter in Photoshop. He and I have looked at the two files on six or so different monitors and they look quite different from monitor to monitor. On most, I'd say that the darker picture is the better, since the highlights are completely blown on the brighter one (i.e. snow and sky; it's impossible to see that the sun is there). I would suggest that the images contain more problems than just brightness. I would discard the bright image and then work on the gamma and over-saturation. Load the darker image and pull the gamma down to 1.4, add a little more red in the colour balance and the saturation pull the saturation down -10 and it's getting reasonable. Let me know if you would like me to send you my edit of the pic. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
