RE: Încredible eagle shot!!!

2004-01-28 Thread Simon King

You may laugh, but we could never have got the shot with a clunky old Pentax
lens because it doesn't have a built-in Dual-mode Image Stabilizer function
and fast and silent ring USM.
The photo really speaks for itself.
:-)
Simon


-Original Message-
From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2004 5:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Încredible eagle shot!!!


Hmmm...

Shot with a Canon, eh?



cheers,
frank

PS:  Unlike others, I happened to notice that you didn't shoot it, Sylwester

.

"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist

fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




>From: Sylwester Pietrzyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Încredible eagle shot!!!
>Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:51:22 +0100
>
>http://www.pbase.com/image/25524341
>Couldn't imagine better composition and level of details ;-
>
>--
>Best Regards
>Sylwek
>
>

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Re: Lablling messages by topic D: S: F: P: OT: and so on

2004-01-28 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Dr E D F Williams wrote:

> I'm having a hard time eliminating messages about digital. Most of the
> recent ones have subject lines that make identification impossible. While I
> am impressed sometimes by the amount of detail and level of the information
> on digital cameras being passed around I'd rather not have it. A simple D:
> on the subject line would help those non-digital members (and me) who don't
> want that information. I had more than 200 messages in my PDML inbox a few
> days ago and I simply deleted the lot because I was too  busy to go through
> them all. I'm sure to have missed something interesting.
>
> I suggested D: F: S: and P: the other day in addition to the well known OT:
> but there was no positive response ... only a few facetious remarks. I
> filter *ist, *ist D, ist D, and digital but this no longer does the trick.
>
> Don

Don, what mail server do you use?
I'm able to sort my PDML folder by subject line and  it is a snap to highlight
'em all and dump them in the trash.

I don't like to use filters that prevent me from seeing the posts entirely just
in case...

annsan




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Viewfinder/Picture Border (mz5n)

2004-01-28 Thread Pat White
Pretty annoying, isn't it?  I got tired of guessing where the right side of
the image ends with my MZ-5n and got an MZ-S.  Its data is all outside the
image area, among many other improvements.

Pat White




Re: KomKon and apologies

2004-01-28 Thread graywolf
You have been contacted by Igor? Wow, no one on the list ever did something so 
bad that happened before. Go stand in the corner. 

Since he seems to be lurking: Many thanks, Igor.

--

Boris Liberman wrote:

Hi!

I've been contacted by Igor - the KomKon Admin. Well, I hurried a
little and it came out badly, like you know, releasing a shutter on
slow speed handheld without proper balance and support...
KomKon is Komitet (Komissya) po Kontaktam - Committee (Comission) of
Contacts...
I stand corrected and apologize.



Boris


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Re: Miscellaneous Fairygirl ramblings...

2004-01-28 Thread John Coyle
Tan - look forward to it... I'll try to keep that weekend clear.
Ryan - have you noted this?

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia
- Original Message - 
From: "Tanya Mayer Photography" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 1:44 PM
Subject: Miscellaneous Fairygirl ramblings...


> Hey all!
> 

  Then I am hoping to catch up with Ryan and John on my next
> Brisbane trip which is the weekend of the 28th Feb.




Re: OT: This is cold.

2004-01-28 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Joseph Tainter"
Subject: Re: OT: This is cold.


> William, do you take your *ist D out in such conditions? I recall a
> warning about not letting the LCD freeze.
>

Not as of yet. I hadn't heard that about the LCD. Do you know how much cold
it can take?
I know the LX will take -35 or more for an extended period.
Film 1, digital no score..

William Robb



Re: Miscellaneous Fairygirl ramblings...

2004-01-28 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Tanya Mayer Photography"
Subject: Miscellaneous Fairygirl ramblings...



> Question to *istD owners - does it have automatic rotation of images when
> you are shooting them in a portrait hold?  I am finding this very time
> consuming and tiresome, having to manually rotate all of my images with
the
> Oly...

No.
I set up an action in Photoshop to do the rotation.

>
> Ok, now just before I disappear to pick up my son from school - I am
really
> in a quandary now, with the release of these new bodies from Nikon and
> Canon.  In another week, I will have enough money to buy the *istD, so
> please, someone, convince me that I won't be making a big mistake if I do!
> Any advice here is most appreciated...
>

It's still about the lenses.
Do you really want to use Nikkor or Canon glass?

William Robb



RE: pOT: People & Their Bikes - Frank, one more for your collection!

2004-01-28 Thread tom
Do they have any good beer in Florida? 

> -Original Message-
> From: Cesar Matamoros II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 9:44 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: pOT: People & Their Bikes - Frank, one more for 
> your collection!
> 
> Name your poison.
> 
> In a magnanimous mood,
> 
> Cesar
> Panama City, Florida
> 
> -- -Original Message-
> -- From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -- Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 4:23 PM
> --
> -- Someone owes us a beer. 
> --
> -- > -Original Message-
> -- > From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -- > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 4:14 PM
> -- >
> -- > I almost posted the bunny ears one...
> -- >
> -- > -frank
> -- >
> -- > "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. 
> -- >  The pessimist fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer
> -- >
> -- >
> -- >
> -- >
> -- > >From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -- >
> -- > >I *almost* posted the foot picture, but was able to
> -- restrain myself.
> -- > >
> -- > >tv
> -- 
> 
> 



Re: PUG is back

2004-01-28 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!
AvK> Hi folks,

AvK> PUG is back  

AvK> Cheers Adelheid

Excellent news, Adelheid, let me remind you about that e-mail you
received from me off-list ...

Boris



Re: Încredible eagle shot!!!

2004-01-28 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Shel Belinkoff wrote:

> Why waste our time with such crap ...
>
> Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:
> >
> > http://www.pbase.com/image/25524341
> > Couldn't imagine better composition and level of details ;-
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards
> > Sylwek

Um Shel, he was JUST KIDDING :)

annsan



KomKon and apologies

2004-01-28 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

I've been contacted by Igor - the KomKon Admin. Well, I hurried a
little and it came out badly, like you know, releasing a shutter on
slow speed handheld without proper balance and support...

KomKon is Komitet (Komissya) po Kontaktam - Committee (Comission) of
Contacts...

I stand corrected and apologize.



Boris



Re: flash card problems

2004-01-28 Thread Bruce Dayton
FWIW,

I have been shooting two 512mb Lexar WA cards all along without any
hitches at all.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Wednesday, January 28, 2004, 8:07:15 PM, you wrote:

PS> No, but I think it was formated as a PC disk when I got it, and it
PS> didn't work. I guess I'll have to pick up another card (not a WA) and
PS> see if that works. I can't imagine that the card is defective, since
PS> the computer sees it. I bought it from B&H, and they listed it as an
PS> accessory for the *ist D, but perhaps it's just not compatible.
PS> On Jan 28, 2004, at 11:30 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

>> On 28 Jan 2004 at 22:11, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>
>>> I tried going to format on the camera menu. If I
>>> tell it to proceed with the format it again says, "Memory Card Error."
>>> Any clues? I've contacted Lexar tech, but I don't know how long it
>>> will
>>> be before I get an answer.
>>> Paul
>>
>> Can you format it as a PC disk?
>>
>> Rob Studdert
>> HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
>> Tel +61-2-9554-4110
>> UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
>> Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
>>





Re: Best pix of 2003

2004-01-28 Thread graywolf
It seems to be human nature to want to know there are those worse off than you 
are. At least the news media seems to believe that.

--

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rob Brigham posted, among other things:

I actually quite like many of the shots in Doug's link though...

Then again I am more into "nice" pics than reportage/docupics so I guess
I would, wouldn't I?


I liked the pics Doug shared, too. Especially with the "relative lack" of 
reportage/documentary photos -- Yesterday my copy of "News Photographer" 
arrived, with the Best of Photojournalism 2003 photos contained therein. War, 
war, war, plague, plague, war, hard times -- Seemed to me an even more 
depressing collection of photographs than usual. This group of pics (that Doug 
shared) was a nice little antidote.

One other depressing point about the News Photographer collection too -- so 
very many images with muddy blotchy shadows, even muddy, blotchy midtones. 
Seems another drawback to digital taking over the press photogs' kit: the 
images are technically ghastly. But perhaps in just a little more time, those 
problems will disappear. Doubtful we can say the same about wars and plagues 
and Man's Inhumanity To Man.



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http://graywolfphoto.com
"You might as well accept people as they are,
you are not going to be able to change them anyway."



Re: First kid on my block...

2004-01-28 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
Congrats Joseph!  I think I might be buying one next week some time too!
Can't wait to see some of the results of your initial shooting with it

tan.

- Original Message - 
From: "Joseph Tainter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "pdml" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 1:45 PM
Subject: First kid on my block...


> ...with the DA 16-45 f4 ED AL. Adorama claims that mine shipped today,
> to arrive Monday. Unfortunately I'll be traveling Monday through
> Thursday of next week.
>
> Okay, enough spending on photo equipment for a while.
>
> Well, I might relent if Pentax soon comes out with:
>
> DA 12 or 13 f2.0 (or faster)
>
> DA 50-200 f4.
>
> Whee, I'm an early adopter again. This is getting to be a habit.
>
> Joe
>
>



Re: Pentax will fight back (was: RE: OT - Opposition Notching up)

2004-01-28 Thread Peter Alling
Based on the specs for the Nikon D70 specs Pentax will be hard pressed to
match it at it's price point.  A Cunning stunt may be impossible.
At 04:57 AM 1/28/04, you wrote:
On 28/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>I don't know, they seem to be selling quite a few *ist-D's in spite of:
>
>1.) The lack of aperture simulator, (yes that has been partially addressed
>which makes it more likely I'll buy one in the near future).
>
>2.) Lack of advertising, at least compared to the Canon and Nikon offerings.
>
>3.) Really silly name.
>
>4.) Lack of Cachet compared to, well compared to, just about everyone left
>in the camera manufacturing business.
>
>5.) The Canon Digital Rebel selling for roughly 2/3rd's it's price.
>
>So who knows, some of us die hards will insist upon doing just that.
Actually, this scenario now is pretty good territory for Pentax to pull a
cunning stunt. If there really is a Baby D in the pipeline, PMA would be
an excellent opportunity to announce it. Nikon's Baby D will be hyped up,
but that will be the only competition (the new 1D being in a different arena).
If Pentax can offer a foolproof Baby D for 300D money, and make it look
nice and small, with easy handling - could be a real nice rabbit out of
the hat


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Re: OT - Opposition Notching up a gear...

2004-01-28 Thread mishka
> Does it have wireless data
> transfer like the Nikon? Doesn't sound like it but given the rest of
> the specs I doubt if anyone will care.
don't underestimate the allure of not having to keep your negs/raw files
with you. especially in not very friendly environments. especially on a
paid job.
but i am not a pj.
but this is not a pentax thread, anyway.
best,
mishka


Re: flash card problems

2004-01-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
Actually, I don't know what format the Lexar software puts on the card. 
I used their formatting tool, not the Mac's. It's supposed to be the 
standard factory format.
On Jan 28, 2004, at 11:30 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

On 28 Jan 2004 at 22:11, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I tried going to format on the camera menu. If I
tell it to proceed with the format it again says, "Memory Card Error."
Any clues? I've contacted Lexar tech, but I don't know how long it 
will
be before I get an answer.
Paul
Can you format it as a PC disk?

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: flash card problems

2004-01-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
No, but I think it was formated as a PC disk when I got it, and it 
didn't work. I guess I'll have to pick up another card (not a WA) and 
see if that works. I can't imagine that the card is defective, since 
the computer sees it. I bought it from B&H, and they listed it as an 
accessory for the *ist D, but perhaps it's just not compatible.
On Jan 28, 2004, at 11:30 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

On 28 Jan 2004 at 22:11, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I tried going to format on the camera menu. If I
tell it to proceed with the format it again says, "Memory Card Error."
Any clues? I've contacted Lexar tech, but I don't know how long it 
will
be before I get an answer.
Paul
Can you format it as a PC disk?

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: flash card problems

2004-01-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
No, but I'm going to buy another one tomorrow. I'll pick up a 
conventional 256 or 512, and see if that works.
On Jan 28, 2004, at 10:50 PM, Tanya Mayer Photography wrote:

Paul, do you have another CF card that you can try with it?

tan.

- Original Message -
From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 1:11 PM
Subject: flash card problems

My *ist D arrived today, but I've been unable to get it to work. It
won't recognize my flash card. It's a Lexar 1gig CF+ write accelerated
card. I was going to try to upload the firmware update before doing
anything else. I was able to load the firmware update onto the flash
card in my Mac. When I turn the camera on with the memory button held
down, it displays "version 1.00" as it should, then the screen 
switches
to "Memory Card Error." I get the same message if I just turn the
camera on without holding down the button. I reformatted the card on 
my
computer. No change. I tried going to format on the camera menu. If I
tell it to proceed with the format it again says, "Memory Card Error."
Any clues? I've contacted Lexar tech, but I don't know how long it 
will
be before I get an answer.
Paul






Re: Încredible eagle shot!!!

2004-01-28 Thread Andrew Robinson
Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:

http://www.pbase.com/image/25524341
Couldn't imagine better composition and level of details ;-
 

http://members.aol.com/awrobinson/images/fuzzyeagle.jpg
One good eagle shot deserves another...


Re: Win98SE & *istD

2004-01-28 Thread Joseph Tainter
I use Windows 98 SE, but have had to kludge together a workaround to get 
images into it. W98SE is supposed to be able to read an external drive. 
Some installations do. Others (like mine) have trouble. Still, I have 
gotten it to work.

You can't connect the *ist D directly to the PC. Pentax doesn't supply a 
driver for W95 or 98. You can, though, connect the CF card or micro 
drive through an adapter. I have a Lexar 1 GB, which came with its own 
adapter.

Joe



Re: flash card problems

2004-01-28 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
Paul, do you have another CF card that you can try with it?

tan.

- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 1:11 PM
Subject: flash card problems


> My *ist D arrived today, but I've been unable to get it to work. It 
> won't recognize my flash card. It's a Lexar 1gig CF+ write accelerated 
> card. I was going to try to upload the firmware update before doing 
> anything else. I was able to load the firmware update onto the flash 
> card in my Mac. When I turn the camera on with the memory button held 
> down, it displays "version 1.00" as it should, then the screen switches 
> to "Memory Card Error." I get the same message if I just turn the 
> camera on without holding down the button. I reformatted the card on my 
> computer. No change. I tried going to format on the camera menu. If I 
> tell it to proceed with the format it again says, "Memory Card Error." 
> Any clues? I've contacted Lexar tech, but I don't know how long it will 
> be before I get an answer.
> Paul
> 
> 



Re: OT: This is cold.

2004-01-28 Thread Joseph Tainter
William, do you take your *ist D out in such conditions? I recall a 
warning about not letting the LCD freeze.

Joe



Film Will Be With Us For A While, Part II

2004-01-28 Thread Joseph Tainter
The American television program 60 Minutes (which does longish features) 
had a story tonight about counterfeiting in China. Apparently Kodak Max 
is one of the counterfeited products. So I guess that means that there 
is a coating plant in China. I suggested here some time back that, as 
profits on film decline, Kodak would shift production to Eastern Europe, 
then to India, then to China. Fuji may go directly to China. This source 
of production will surely be around for a while.

The second item on the show was about NFL (National Football [American 
Football] League) films. For quality they are shot on film -- lots of it.

Sounds to me like film is not going away. Processing may become less 
available, though.

Joe



Miscellaneous Fairygirl ramblings...

2004-01-28 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
Hey all!

Warning BIG post to follow...

Ok, so I have been pretty quiet of late (not that any of you probably
noticed! lol)... And here is why...

Firstly, my email packed it in and stopped delivering messages to my Inbox.
So I went to my webmail thinking that there may have been a really big email
or a virus etc blocking it, as I hadn't received any email for an entire
day!  I found 1542 messages, dating back to 16 January!!! Extremely weird as
most of them HAD already been delivered to my Inbox.  I deleted them all but
not before my server had been rejecting my emails due to the mailbox being
too full, so I have had heaps of clients ringing me saying "what's
wrong with your email" etc AND PDML unsubscribed me too!  So, all seems to
be working ok now, lets hope it stays that way.

Also, I was in Brisbane for Sunday/Monday/Tuesday doing my "arab" guy's
wedding!  Then we got home at 1am Wednesday morning and I had to get my 5yo
off to his first day of Grade 1 yesterday!  My 4yo starts preschool
tomorrow, so I am sure you all now "get" what I've been up to! lol...  I
have been taking almost a booking per day for weddings and as of this
moment, February, April, August and September are completely booked out, as
is April 2005!! Phew, there just aren't enough weekends in a year!  I need a
"doppleganger"! lol...

On the technology front, my laptop is zipping along at a merry 'ole pace,
and was fantastic for the "arab" wedding.  (BTW, these people were so NON
middle-eastern!! lol, I'll post some pics soon.  But lets just say, they
were as pommie as they come, complete with beetroot red, sunburnt faces and
shoulders (as those silly Pommie bastards just don't REALISE what real sun
is like until they come here!), blonde hair and blue eyes, and a THICK
Yorkshire accent!.  I was laughing myself silly at one point as I was
shooting them, and the groom starts yelling to his bride "omg, don't move
there is a giant BOOG in your veil!!", it took be a few minutes to realise
that he was referring to a BUG!! lol.  Anyways, they were a great couple,
lots of fun, and I honestly don't know why I was stressing so much about it
all.  (oh, just realised that I didn't post about my nerves - I was actually
vomiting the morning of the wedding due to my nerves and had to put on a
relaxation cd and do a meditation to calm myself down!  Even after this, I
was still shaking as I applied her makeup!)...  Can't remember if I ever
posted the specs, but I ended up with a Compaq Armada E500 - 600mhz cpu,
256mb RAM, 18 gb HDD, cd/DVD rom, infrared, win 2000.  I then added a
52x32x52 external cd burner, a 4xUSB 2.0 PCMCIA hub, a PCMCIA cf card
adapter (thanks to Christian for the suggestion!), a Targus laptop backpack,
a Compaq vehicle/plane power adapter, and a few other bits and pieces.  Must
say it is rather heavy though, but at least it does the job for now, and I
will probably upgrade it in another month or two...

Tomorrow, I will take delivery of my new PC - it is a AMD Athlon XP 2600+
cpu (anyone know anything about these chips?!?), 100gb HDD, 512mb RAM, 19"
flat screen monitor, 64mb CDRW/DVD (52x52x24), Win XP, Digital Stereo sound
with 2 speakers and a subwoofer (don't know why I'd ever need this, but it
sounds good! lol), 10/100 Auto-Switch Lan, Cordless optical mouse/keyboard,
onsite warranty (which cannot be underestimated for someone like me who
lives in the middle of nowhere!), 64mb Graphics S.M.A., internal modem, and
a heap of software that I'd never use!

Also comes with a Lexmark x1150 "All-in-one Print Center" which claims to
have photo printing up to 4800x1200dpi, flatbed scanner, colour copying etc.
The printer will go into my boys' bedroom with the PC that I am currently
using for them to "play" with.  And as I now have a "big boy" who is in
Grade One, he suddenly thinks that he "needs" a computer in case he gets
"homework"! lol.  All this and he can barely write his own name!

At least it will keep them off my work computer though.  They were in here
playing games the other day whilst I was in Brisbane and turned off the
Adobe Gamma (as their games looked too "dark" apparently), so I come home,
spend two hours working on images from the wedding only to discover by some
chance that I wasn't working in a colour space! So I turned it on and omg,
all of my work was completely destroyed, I had to start from scratch.  I
could have strangled them!

Ok, so guess what, I am going to get to meet Bob (Rapp)! Yy, my first
PDML "meetup"!   He will be here next week some time as he passes through
due to work.  Then I am hoping to catch up with Ryan and John on my next
Brisbane trip which is the weekend of the 28th Feb.

Question to *istD owners - does it have automatic rotation of images when
you are shooting them in a portrait hold?  I am finding this very time
consuming and tiresome, having to manually rotate all of my images with the
Oly...

Ok, now just before I disappear to pick up my son from school - I am really
in a quanda

First kid on my block...

2004-01-28 Thread Joseph Tainter
...with the DA 16-45 f4 ED AL. Adorama claims that mine shipped today,
to arrive Monday. Drat...I have to be in Phoenix Monday through Thursday
of next week.
Okay, enough spending on photo equipment for now. Well, at least until
Pentax produces:
DA 12 or 13 f2 (or faster)
DA 50-200 f4.
Whee, I'm an early adopter again. This is getting to be a habit.

Joe



First kid on my block...

2004-01-28 Thread Joseph Tainter
...with the DA 16-45 f4 ED AL. Adorama claims that mine shipped today, 
to arrive Monday. Unfortunately I'll be traveling Monday through 
Thursday of next week.

Okay, enough spending on photo equipment for a while.

Well, I might relent if Pentax soon comes out with:

DA 12 or 13 f2.0 (or faster)

DA 50-200 f4.

Whee, I'm an early adopter again. This is getting to be a habit.

Joe



Re: flash card problems

2004-01-28 Thread Rob Studdert
On 28 Jan 2004 at 22:11, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> I tried going to format on the camera menu. If I 
> tell it to proceed with the format it again says, "Memory Card Error." 
> Any clues? I've contacted Lexar tech, but I don't know how long it will 
> be before I get an answer.
> Paul

Can you format it as a PC disk?

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



RE: pOT: People & Their Bikes - Frank, one more for your collection!

2004-01-28 Thread frank theriault
In the winter, I drink stout, and my favourite stout right now is Beamish.

Mind you, by the time I see you it'll be June, so I'll want something 
lighter in flavour.  Surprise me with something local and tasty.

thanks,
frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: "Cesar Matamoros II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: pOT: People & Their Bikes - Frank, one more for your 
collection!
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 21:43:58 -0500

Name your poison.

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RE: pOT: Ppl & Their Bikes, Take 2 - Frank, this one, surely..

2004-01-28 Thread frank theriault
Ryan,

Nice bike (for a mountain bike, that is ).  I'm getting backlogged with 
undevoloped film again, but somewhere I've got a couple of shots of my 
Rossin track bike that I'll post some day.

I just wish my bike was as clean as yours!

And, don't worry about being "skinny" (I'm much skinnier that you, though - 
I have no biceps).  Cyclists are ~supposed~ to be skinny.  Muscle above the 
waist is just dead weight to carry around on a bike.

BTW, that shot of the bike crossing the bridge that you posted was great (I 
should've mentioned that earlier).

thanks,
frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: "Ryan Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "PDML" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: pOT: Ppl & Their Bikes, Take 2 - Frank, this one, surely..
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 11:18:25 +1000
http://home.iprimus.com.au/heygoose/RyanBikeBrissie.jpg
Darn geocities leech-protection..
Frank, Wendy, hope this link works.. Wendy, Cotty got ahead of himself
there- don't click the link if your line between 'gag' and 'swoon' is a bit
more clearly defined.. -grin-
Cotty you monkey look what you've done- Now there are expectations to live
up to! At least if you said I was troll hideous, there might be a chance
someone might comment, hey that's not so bad.. ;-) Not that I was looking
for that or anything.. lol!
Cheers all..
Ryan



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Re: Best pix of 2003

2004-01-28 Thread Doug Franklin
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 19:33:12 -0500, Christian Skofteland wrote:

> Ralph Schumacher, Australia 2002
> http://members.lycos.co.uk/nigelk1/mpegs/2002/aus-car.wmv

Yep, that was nasty.  About a week later they interviewed the widow of
that corner worker.  She was sad, of course, but said "it's the way
he'd have wanted to go" or something to that effect.

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ




RE: pOT: People & Their Bikes - Frank, one more for your collection!

2004-01-28 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
Name your poison.

In a magnanimous mood,

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

-- -Original Message-
-- From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 4:23 PM
-- 
-- Someone owes us a beer. 
-- 
-- > -Original Message-
-- > From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
-- > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 4:14 PM
-- > 
-- > I almost posted the bunny ears one...
-- > 
-- > -frank
-- > 
-- > "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. 
-- >  The pessimist fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer
-- > 
-- > 
-- > 
-- > 
-- > >From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
-- > 
-- > >I *almost* posted the foot picture, but was able to 
-- restrain myself.
-- > >
-- > >tv
-- 



RE: OT: This is cold.

2004-01-28 Thread frank theriault
...but it's a "dry" cold...

"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer

From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The overnight low last night was, according to my thermometer, well
below -40C.
The high today was about -33C.
Just thought I would share that news.

William Robb

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RE: DNMCN: Through-the-Windscreen picture (was: F's ROTFLHAO-was:RE: AIMCN: tv's

2004-01-28 Thread frank theriault
So, I'm sitting there, trying to figure it out, then it came to me:

Does Not Make yadda yadda yadda...  Again, rotflmao!

So, this isn't through the windshield, but of a similar genre:  out of a 
moving car:

http://pug.komkon.org/01sep/Sumstorm.html

Always been one of my faves.  What is it with these Italians, anyway?  

cheers,
frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: "Christian Skofteland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: DNMCN: Through-the-Windscreen picture (was: F's ROTFLHAO-was:RE: 
AIMCN: tv's blobs of light)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 19:51:06 -0500

Shel, tom, frank, whomever;

now that the pug is up I can show you a through-the-windscreen picture that
doesn't give me a headache or make me nauseas
http://pug.komkon.org/02oct/ombrpug.html

Christian Skofteland
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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flash card problems

2004-01-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
My *ist D arrived today, but I've been unable to get it to work. It 
won't recognize my flash card. It's a Lexar 1gig CF+ write accelerated 
card. I was going to try to upload the firmware update before doing 
anything else. I was able to load the firmware update onto the flash 
card in my Mac. When I turn the camera on with the memory button held 
down, it displays "version 1.00" as it should, then the screen switches 
to "Memory Card Error." I get the same message if I just turn the 
camera on without holding down the button. I reformatted the card on my 
computer. No change. I tried going to format on the camera menu. If I 
tell it to proceed with the format it again says, "Memory Card Error." 
Any clues? I've contacted Lexar tech, but I don't know how long it will 
be before I get an answer.
Paul



Re: pOT: Ppl & Their Bikes, Take 2 - Frank, this one, surely..

2004-01-28 Thread ernreed2
Ryan posted:

> http://home.iprimus.com.au/heygoose/RyanBikeBrissie.jpg
> Darn geocities leech-protection..

This one I can see. Gosh, you look *very* young!
ERN



Re: Încredible eagle shot!!!

2004-01-28 Thread William M Kane
Sylwek,

   I don't care what Shel says.  I laughed so hard!  That was the 
highlight of my day!  Maybe that's a comment on my day, or my week, but 
that was GREAT!!

Thanks so much,
IL Bill
On Wednesday, January 28, 2004, at 09:51 AM, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:
http://www.pbase.com/image/25524341
Couldn't imagine better composition and level of details ;-
--
Best Regards
Sylwek



OT: The BBC and TV tax revisited

2004-01-28 Thread Robert Gonzalez
Well, first of all, I am amazed at the subjects that get discussed here 
in pdml.  Somehow the list got onto a thread a very short time ago about 
taxing British citizens to finance the BBC.

As if the list is all prescient, all of a sudden the BBC is big world 
news due to the scathing commentary by Lord Hutton accusing the BBC's 
Board of Governers of basically sleeping on the job during the BBC's 
Blair Blunder.

It was very interesting to hear on the radio commentary about how this 
is going to go over with the British public, since  "The 
British Broadcasting Corporation is a publicly funded corporation via 
taxation and there is some expectation of broadcast responsibility...".

I heard that the chairman of the Board of Governers has stepped down 
after the news today and a couple of others are also considering it.  I 
am curious to hear from our British PDML's if this is a big deal in 
England or if the american radio has blown it out of proportion again...




Re: Virus warning: Mydoom/Novarg

2004-01-28 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
I haven't been "bit" by it as such, as I have managed to detect them all as
they arrived, even before Norton's did, but Jeez are they coming thick and
fast.  I am getting at least two or three everytime my email downloads
(which is every 5 minutes...)...

A BIG PITA!!

tan.

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Cassino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: Virus warning: Mydoom/Novarg


> I got bit by it on Sunday and it was a real PITA.  The infected email I
got
> arrived a couple of hours before Symantec put updated Virus defs on
> line.Today alone, I've rec'd over 150 infected emails (that Norton has
> squelched, thankfully.)
>
> - MCC
>
> At 09:29 AM 1/27/2004 +0100, you wrote:
>
> >Dear PDML'ers
> >A new virus is spreading rapidly. It was upgraded to the highest risk
level by
> >my antivirus vendor last night, and this morning I found the first
infected
> >email in my PDML mail account. Which means that someone on the list is
already
> >infected.
> >
> >Here's a link to F-Secure's info on the malice:
> >
> >http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/novarg.shtml
> >
> >There is also another virus that is very active in these parts nowadays;
the
> >WORM_MIMAIL.R virus. It seems that someone on the list has caught that
one as
> >well.
> >
> >Time for protection update, folks.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Jostein
> >
> >
> >This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
>
> -
>
> Mark Cassino Photography
>
> Kalamazoo, MI
>
> http://www.markcassino.com
>
> -
>
>



Re: Încredible eagle shot!!!

2004-01-28 Thread Bill Owens
But have you checked out the "previous" link?  Some really nice shots of
eagles there.

Bill

- Original Message - 
From: "Sylwester Pietrzyk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 10:51 AM
Subject: Încredible eagle shot!!!


> http://www.pbase.com/image/25524341
> Couldn't imagine better composition and level of details ;-
>
> -- 
> Best Regards
> Sylwek
>
>
>




pOT: Ppl & Their Bikes, Take 2 - Frank, this one, surely..

2004-01-28 Thread Ryan Lee
http://home.iprimus.com.au/heygoose/RyanBikeBrissie.jpg
Darn geocities leech-protection..

Frank, Wendy, hope this link works.. Wendy, Cotty got ahead of himself
there- don't click the link if your line between 'gag' and 'swoon' is a bit
more clearly defined.. -grin-

Cotty you monkey look what you've done- Now there are expectations to live
up to! At least if you said I was troll hideous, there might be a chance
someone might comment, hey that's not so bad.. ;-) Not that I was looking
for that or anything.. lol!

Cheers all..
Ryan






RE: Best pix of 2003

2004-01-28 Thread tom
> -Original Message-
> From: Bob W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I don't think the ones I watched had vapour trails - I didn't 
> really think about that when I write the email.
> 
> When considering whether or not any of the pictures have been 
> 'sexed up' it seems useful to me to look at the source. While 
> it's not an infallible guide it can be helpful. Most of them 
> seem to be from reputable sources like Reuters, AP and other 
> quite well-known, well-established news organisations. 

Right, and I'd have some level of trust if these images appeared on the AP
website, or CNN or something like that, but I don't know what the hell this
http://www.fifth-essence.com/ thing is.

Anyway, I went so far as to see if the guy who shot the Palestinian kid was
a real AP photographer. I found some Reuters references to his name, and
some shots credited to him of various Palestinian/Israeli conflict shots. 

The fish shot seems to be real - 

http://www.lavrakas.com/ProServ/contest.html

Looks like the plane/moon was shot in 2001 -

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/132340/L/
http://www.vinland.com/MoonPlane.html

tv





Re: Photoshop CS

2004-01-28 Thread Bob W
Hi,

the Windows common (ha!) dialogs get a whole section to themselves in the
Interface Hall of Shame.
http://digilander.libero.it/chiediloapippo/Engineering/iarchitect/shame.htm

Deservedly.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob

> Hmm. When I open a file in Word it's at least sorted alphabetically.

> This is really quite annoying.

> tv



Viewfinder/Picture Border (mz5n)

2004-01-28 Thread Ryan Lee
This is going to be a silly question I reckon, but when you look thru the
5n's viewfinder, is the right vertical border the edge of the meter (which
seems to stick out a bit) or is it the other parallel beyond the meter? I
know I should know this by now, but all this while I assumed it was the one
after the meter, because it would make no sense to have that seethru space
above and below the meter. Anyone?

Regards,
Ryan




Re: Best pix of 2003

2004-01-28 Thread Butch Black
Steve wrote:

I do admit to feeling a bit outclassed when one of these was taken with
the Hubble telescope.  Damn, when is there going to be a Pentax version
. ..?

Steve, I think it's safe to say that even if Pentax makes a version of the
Hubble, none of us will buy it. But whomever could submit to the PUG. :)

Butch

Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself.

Hermann Hesse (Demian)



Re:OT: People & Their Bikes - Frank, one more for your collection!

2004-01-28 Thread Ryan Lee
But tv, an artist does not only make art. I don't want to wake up one day
and realise I've got no pictures of myself! And even if that's all wrong,
that timer button on the camera still gives me some creative license, no?

:-)
Ryan

- Original Message - 
From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 3:17 AM
Subject: RE: People & Their Bikes - Frank, one more for your collection!


> You're working the wrong angle.
>
> You have a camera and you shoot b/w, therefore you're an artist.
>
> See where I'm going here?
>
> tv
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ryan Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 12:01 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: People & Their Bikes - Frank, one more for your
> > collection!
> >
> > lol Cotty! Thanks, but truth is girls don't seem to go for
> > skinny. Maybe if I stick (no pun intended) around long
> > enough, twigs will come back?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Ryan
> >
> > PS. Lasses don't go for bicycles either! Two strikes.. argh.
> > I hear a lot of them have a thing for tour de france
> > cyclists' calves.. Another thing I haven't got.. Three
> > strikes.. That was quick.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "pentax list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 2:30 AM
> > Subject: OT: People & Their Bikes - Frank, one more for your
> > collection!
> >
> >
> > > On 28/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >http://www.geocities.com/heygoosey/RyanBikeBrissie.JPG
> > > >I luckily had a couple of shots left on a roll I wanted to
> > get printed,
> > so
> > > >what better way to waste film than a self portrait! I just
> > got my Singh
> > Ray
> > > >Gold & Blue Polariser in the mail today, pity I couldn't
> > have used it for
> > > >the shot, but hey.. next time..
> > > >
> > > >Cheers!
> > > >Ryan
> > >
> > > Thanks Ryan, nice to put a face to a name. You'll have all the girls
> > > swooning, dammit.
> > >
> > > Oh yeah, nice bike, too ;-)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >   Cotty
> > >
> > >
> > > ___/\__
> > > ||   (O)   |  People, Places, Pastiche
> > > ||=|  www.macads.co.uk/snaps
> > > _
> > > Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>




Re: FW: PDML : Vivitar 19mm (was: MIR-47K 20mm f2.8 lens tests or experiences)

2004-01-28 Thread Rob Studdert
On 28 Jan 2004 at 19:36, Nick Clark wrote:

> Message from a non-posting "member". I'm guessing there could be two production 
> lines, or possibly two different models, of this lens given the totally polar 
> viewpoints?
> 
> Nick
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Fox, Paul"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: 26/01/04 09:25:42
> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: PDML : Vivitar 19mm (was: MIR-47K 20mm f2.8 lens tests or experiences)
> 
> Hi Nick,
> i can back it up:
> It's a phantastic little and affordable wide angle. Much better than the old 
> m42-screw-mount Zeis Jena Flektogon (which should be quite similar to that MIR 
> 2.8/20) and even better (IMO) than the old Pentax 4/20. 
> I sold both 20mm lenses - although I never got the Vivitar for K-mount but for my 
> old Yashica FR. I like to take simply the FR with the attached 19mm out of the bag 
> instead of changing lenses (although I'm doing that with my primes often).

I suspect it's all relative, the Pentax 20/4 has a pretty bad reputation here 
as well I believe. The A20/2.8 is a very nice lens, anyone who has compared it 
to the Vivitar will draw the same conclusion. The only advantage the Vivitar 
has is price and I believe that that is a false economy in any case.

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
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Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: Best pix of 2003

2004-01-28 Thread John Francis

Also happens at high humidity.

I've seen vortex trails off the rear wings of race cars,
which generally run at a fairly low altitude :-)


> Except that this plane is showing contrails...generally denotes high 
> altitude.
> Norm
> 
> Bob W wrote:
> 
> > In the late autumn at about 5.30/6pm the moon was generally very 
> > low in the sky
> >
> >and planes were coming in once a minute exactly as you see in that photo.
> >
> >  
> >
> 



Re: overpriced

2004-01-28 Thread edwin

William Robb suggested that the cheaper operating costs of his
digital relative to his LX are false economy because his ratio
of good shots is higher on film.   

I'd agree on a couple of points, namely

1) I've had lousy luck with my LX economically speaking as well
2) I shoot more with digital than I did with film for the same number
   of final edited images

Of course the longer the digital is used the better it comes out
in the operating-cost comparison.  This is why pros who shoot 50-100
thousand shots a year in order to make money are switching to digital.

I have found that I have a very slightly lower proportion of keepers
when shooting digital than shooting film (more junk, but also more
keepers, because more total shots) in general I find it much harder
to edit these days because I don't have ONE good shot but four or five.

I have also found that despite skill, equipment, and such volume
of fire does in general increase the likelyhood of great shots, if
simply due to pure luck (which is what actually makes most "great" shots
rise above the "really good" level).  In that sense, my ability to
get one great lucky shot with digital more often than I got it with
film makes it a great improvement.  

William Robb also pointed out that no matter the cost-benefit analysis
DSLRs are expensive.  That's true, but increasingly less so.
The Nikon D2h is selling at only a couple of hundred dollars more than
the Nikon F5 did when it was new.  While the *istD and Canon digital rebel
are more expensive than their film brethren they are cheaper than 
top-of-the-line film cameras.  In a couple of years, consumer DSLRs
should be down to $600-750 or so, cheaper than the 2nd best film cameras 
most manufacturers currently offer.

Realistically, 35mm FILM cameras are overpriced when compared on 
resolution.  You can get a used Pentax 6x7 and a lens for less than the
price of a Nikon F100 or Canon Digital Rebel.  35mm has never been about
maximum technical quality, but a blend of technical quality and 
convenience.  Lately 35mm and even 35mm-sized digital have gotten good
enough in quality to make many pros consider abandoning larger formats
for some uses, but if you want maximum data-per-frame larger formats
are still the way to go.

DJE



Re: Virus warning: Mydoom/Novarg

2004-01-28 Thread Mark Cassino
I got bit by it on Sunday and it was a real PITA.  The infected email I got 
arrived a couple of hours before Symantec put updated Virus defs on 
line.Today alone, I've rec'd over 150 infected emails (that Norton has 
squelched, thankfully.)

- MCC

At 09:29 AM 1/27/2004 +0100, you wrote:

Dear PDML'ers
A new virus is spreading rapidly. It was upgraded to the highest risk level by
my antivirus vendor last night, and this morning I found the first infected
email in my PDML mail account. Which means that someone on the list is already
infected.
Here's a link to F-Secure's info on the malice:

http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/novarg.shtml

There is also another virus that is very active in these parts nowadays; the
WORM_MIMAIL.R virus. It seems that someone on the list has caught that one as
well.
Time for protection update, folks.

Cheers,
Jostein

This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
-

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Kalamazoo, MI

http://www.markcassino.com

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Re: Încredible eagle shot!!!

2004-01-28 Thread Mark Cassino
LOL, literally!

- MCC

At 04:51 PM 1/28/2004 +0100, you wrote:
http://www.pbase.com/image/25524341
Couldn't imagine better composition and level of details ;-
--
Best Regards
Sylwek
-

Mark Cassino Photography

Kalamazoo, MI

http://www.markcassino.com

-




RE: Me and Bobby McGee

2004-01-28 Thread Nick Clark
It's just right on the 3.5" screen of my PDA!
Nick

-Original Message-
From: "Shel Belinkoff"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 26/01/04 19:31:05
To: "PDML"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Me and Bobby McGee

Just a little snap from a few nights ago.
I'd be interested in how the description appears
on your monitors ... is it easily readable, too big/small
...

Thanks for looking, IAC ...

http://home.earthlink.net/~digisnaps/mcgee.html

shel




Re: Scanning Question

2004-01-28 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Primary use is for an on line portfolio.  Secondary will be
inkjet prints, although most of the prints (I hope) will be
good ol' silver prints made directly from the negs. IAC,
many of the final inkjet prints will have a subtle tone to
them, like printing on Agfa Portriga Rapid.

shel

Mark Cassino wrote:
> 
> What do you plan to do with the images once scanned?  It seems like that
> would be the real driver.  If you plan to print them, does the printer
> require RGB or will it work OK with grayscale?



Re: Best pix of 2003

2004-01-28 Thread Jostein
If the boeing/moon is a double, it's well done. The light angle fits very
well, and the plane is slightly blurred.
But it seems almost too good to be true, though.

Actually, I'm more suspicious about the authenticity northern pike picture.
To my knowledge, the pike always takes its prey head first. Otherwise the
prey would live longer and be able to put up much more struggle, and would
be more difficult to swallow because of the fins and gills pointing the
wrong way.

The most manipulated images I think must be the false-colour astro images by
Hubble. :-)

Jostein

- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Stach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: Best pix of 2003


> Hi list,
> ...
>
> t> Just out of curiousity...do any of these looked dovtored to you?
>
> What do you think about the 747 passing the moon?
>
> I think with a focal lenght of about 1600mm equiv.,
> one of the two should be out of focus...depth of field is very flat...or
> is it already hyperfocal at 35.000 feet?
> ;-)
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
>
> Bruce Dayton schrieb:
> >
> > Hello tom,
> >
> > Yes, some of them do.  I have become more skeptical of amazing
> > technical shots because it can be so easy to alter and combine images.
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > Bruce
> >
> > Wednesday, January 28, 2004, 9:46:32 AM, you wrote:
> >
> > t> Just out of curiousity...do any of these looked dovtored to you?
> >
> > t> My mom had sent me this link and I sort of dismissed it. She sends me
a lot
> > t> of doctored crap.
> >
> > t> tv
> >
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: Rob Brigham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 12:07 PM
> > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> Subject: RE: Best pix of 2003
> > >>
> > >> Ya don't say!
> > >>
> > >> I almost sent a sarcastic reply to your comment aimed at
> > >> Sylwester, but when two similar comments came in together I
> > >> figured 'give the guy a break - he is obviously having a bad day!'
> > >>
> > >> I actually quite like many of the shots in Doug's link though...
> > >>
> > >> Then again I am more into "nice" pics than reportage/docupics
> > >> so I guess I would, wouldn't I?
> > >>
> > >> Hope things get better as the day progresses...
> > >>
> > >> If not, follow Cotty's advice - "HAVE A DRINK!  HAVE A DRINK!
> > >>  HAVE A DRINK!  HAVE A DRINK!" - maybe things will improve then!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > -Original Message-
> > >> > From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> > Sent: 28 January 2004 17:01
> > >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> > Subject: Re: Best pix of 2003
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Well, maybe "pap" was too strong a word.  I'm real cranky this
> > >> > morning.
> > >> >
> > >> > Paul Stenquist wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > but I don't think that any of these are "pap."
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
>



Re: Best pix of 2003

2004-01-28 Thread Norm Baugher
Except that this plane is showing contrails...generally denotes high 
altitude.
Norm

Bob W wrote:

In the late autumn at about 5.30/6pm the moon was generally very 
low in the sky

and planes were coming in once a minute exactly as you see in that photo.

 




Re: Win98SE & *istD

2004-01-28 Thread Mark Roberts
Thomas Stach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I also still do have a machine on 98SE - but I got myself a little
>Sandisk FireWire/CF reader -
>512MB are loaded in less than 1min 30s !
>So what's all the fuzz about USB1.1, USB2.0, full-speed & hispeed USB...
>;-) !?!

Come to think of it, the original poster was inquiring about a laptop
computer, wasn't he? The solution here is to get a card reader that
plugs into the PC-card slot. I just got one for my laptop (running
Win98). Works great and only cost me $11.00... plus there was a $5.00
rebate on it! Total cost about six dollars.

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: PUG is back

2004-01-28 Thread frank theriault
Indeed!!

Thanks so much for all your hard work.

cheers,
frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: "Jostein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PUG is back Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 22:52:51 +0100
Well done, Igor and Adelheid!

Jostein

- Original Message -
From: "Adelheid v. K." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 10:00 PM
Subject: PUG is back
> Hi folks,
>
> PUG is back
>
> Cheers Adelheid
>
>
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Re: Best pix of 2003

2004-01-28 Thread Bob W
Hi,

> The airplane and moon shot is highly suspect.

I disagree. A few years ago I did a contract in West London, near
Heathrow airport. I used to get the train home from Syon Lane. In the
late autumn at about 5.30/6pm the moon was generally very low in the sky
and planes were coming in once a minute exactly as you see in that photo.

I never took a photo of it because I didn't want to bring a honking
great tripod, 400mm lens etc. to work. I always meant to go back and do
it at the end of the contract, but never have.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob



Re: Best pix of 2003

2004-01-28 Thread Thomas Stach
Hi list,
...

t> Just out of curiousity...do any of these looked dovtored to you?

What do you think about the 747 passing the moon?

I think with a focal lenght of about 1600mm equiv.,
one of the two should be out of focus...depth of field is very flat...or
is it already hyperfocal at 35.000 feet?
;-)

Thomas




Bruce Dayton schrieb:
> 
> Hello tom,
> 
> Yes, some of them do.  I have become more skeptical of amazing
> technical shots because it can be so easy to alter and combine images.
> 
> --
> Best regards,
> Bruce
> 
> Wednesday, January 28, 2004, 9:46:32 AM, you wrote:
> 
> t> Just out of curiousity...do any of these looked dovtored to you?
> 
> t> My mom had sent me this link and I sort of dismissed it. She sends me a lot
> t> of doctored crap.
> 
> t> tv
> 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Rob Brigham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 12:07 PM
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: RE: Best pix of 2003
> >>
> >> Ya don't say!
> >>
> >> I almost sent a sarcastic reply to your comment aimed at
> >> Sylwester, but when two similar comments came in together I
> >> figured 'give the guy a break - he is obviously having a bad day!'
> >>
> >> I actually quite like many of the shots in Doug's link though...
> >>
> >> Then again I am more into "nice" pics than reportage/docupics
> >> so I guess I would, wouldn't I?
> >>
> >> Hope things get better as the day progresses...
> >>
> >> If not, follow Cotty's advice - "HAVE A DRINK!  HAVE A DRINK!
> >>  HAVE A DRINK!  HAVE A DRINK!" - maybe things will improve then!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > Sent: 28 January 2004 17:01
> >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > Subject: Re: Best pix of 2003
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Well, maybe "pap" was too strong a word.  I'm real cranky this
> >> > morning.
> >> >
> >> > Paul Stenquist wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > but I don't think that any of these are "pap."
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>



Re: Best pix of 2003

2004-01-28 Thread Bob W
Hi,

> Mostly pap, cute animal pics, and flashy colors.  A few
> "nice" pics.  Surprisingly lacking by comparison is
> reportage or documentary work.

it was a vote. It's why there are no great mass-circulation
documentary magazines any more. Only about 13 people on the planet
are interested.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob



Re: OT - Opposition Notching up a gear...

2004-01-28 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

I have one question and one answer.

Steve - I wouldn't be tempted by $800-$900 DSLR until Pentax produces 
one as for me it would mean buying lenses too, which is over my head. 
I may be tempted however by $700 DZLR assuming prices of Nikon CoolPix 
8700 eventually reach that level and it scores to my liking on 
reviews. I then may actually sell most of my Pentax gear and buy this 
camera. But this is mostly theoretical.

Now for my question - I am starting to sense a price wars unravel... 
Are you?

Boris



Re: Win98SE & *istD

2004-01-28 Thread Thomas Stach
Hi list,

I also still do have a machine on 98SE - but I got myself a little
Sandisk FireWire/CF reader -
512MB are loaded in less than 1min 30s !
So what's all the fuzz about USB1.1, USB2.0, full-speed & hispeed USB...
;-) !?!

Thomas




Michel Carrère-Gée schrieb:
> 
> Peter Hillerstrom a écrit:
> 
> >Hi!
> >
> >Has anybody hooked up an *istD to a win98SE PC?
> >
> >Seen some threads about win98 not supporting USB fully
> >but win98SE should work.
> >
> >Have bought myself a used laptop with win98SE. It
> >wants me to insert a driver for the camera when I
> >connect it to the USB-port :(
> >
> The *ist D is only Usb 1.1, you can use a cheap CompactFlash/Pcmcia
> adapter on a laptop computer; it's more  faster.
> 
> Michel



Re: Încredible eagle shot!!!

2004-01-28 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
> Hmmm...
> 
> Shot with a Canon, eh?
Yup, people say that with 100-400 L IS - very good lens for nature as we can
see ;-)

> PS:  Unlike others, I happened to notice that you didn't shoot it, Sylwester
> .
Bingo ;-) You have beer when we meet!

-- 
Best regards
Sylwek




Re: PUG is back

2004-01-28 Thread Jostein
Well done, Igor and Adelheid!

Jostein

- Original Message - 
From: "Adelheid v. K." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 10:00 PM
Subject: PUG is back 


> Hi folks,
> 
> PUG is back  
> 
> Cheers Adelheid
> 
> 



Re: Încredible eagle shot!!!

2004-01-28 Thread Jostein
Absolutely fabulous! :-)
Jostein
- Original Message - 
From: "Sylwester Pietrzyk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 4:51 PM
Subject: Încredible eagle shot!!!


> http://www.pbase.com/image/25524341
> Couldn't imagine better composition and level of details ;-
>
> -- 
> Best Regards
> Sylwek
>
>



Re: OT - Opposition Notching up a gear...

2004-01-28 Thread Mark Roberts
Lon Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Mark Roberts wrote:
>> "Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>>did I read that right?  8.2MP and 8.5 frames per second for 40 frames?
>> 
>> Man, I knew Canon was going to respond to the Nikon D2h by PMA but I
>> didn't think they'd blow it away like this!
>> This is actually a little scary...
>> 
>You want 8.5 frames per second, look at a video cam.

I don't need any more than 2 fps. But a lot of PJ types need it and a
hell of a lot of people who don't need it *want* it.

>Specsmanship is about as nifty as yesterday's news.

No argument.
But it *does* sell cameras.

(The specs that interest me, though, are 1.3x crop factor and 8
megapixels.)


-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: Film: And the Dead Shall Rise...

2004-01-28 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I expect that color film use five to ten years from now will at
>least equal black and white film use today.

Now that's the first film-to-digital transition speculation that makes
sense to me. Well put.

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



RE: pOT: People & Their Bikes - Frank, one more for your collection!

2004-01-28 Thread tom
Someone owes us a beer. 

> -Original Message-
> From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 4:14 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: pOT: People & Their Bikes - Frank, one more for 
> your collection!
> 
> I almost posted the bunny ears one...
> 
> -frank
> 
> "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. 
>  The pessimist fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> >I *almost* posted the foot picture, but was able to restrain myself.
> >
> >tv
> >
> >
> >
> 
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RE: pOT: People & Their Bikes - Frank, one more for your collection!

2004-01-28 Thread frank theriault
I almost posted the bunny ears one...

-frank

"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I *almost* posted the foot picture, but was able to restrain myself.

tv



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Re: Best pix of 2003

2004-01-28 Thread Steve Desjardins
I do admit to feeling a bit outclassed when one of these was taken with
the Hubble telescope.  Damn, when is there going to be a Pentax version
. ..?



Re: Graywolf's Photo

2004-01-28 Thread graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com/presscameras/

I was not wearing the trench coat and fedora when I took the barber shop photo.

--

Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
I don't know anything about Graywolf's equipment of course.


--
graywolf
http://graywolfphoto.com
"You might as well accept people as they are,
you are not going to be able to change them anyway."



RE: OT: People & Their Bikes - Frank, one more for your collection!

2004-01-28 Thread frank theriault
link don't work for me  :-(

-frank

"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: "Ryan Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "PDML" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: OT: People & Their Bikes - Frank, one more for your collection!
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 01:06:21 +1000
http://www.geocities.com/heygoosey/RyanBikeBrissie.JPG
I luckily had a couple of shots left on a roll I wanted to get printed, so
what better way to waste film than a self portrait! I just got my Singh Ray
Gold & Blue Polariser in the mail today, pity I couldn't have used it for
the shot, but hey.. next time..
Cheers!
Ryan

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PUG is back

2004-01-28 Thread Adelheid v. K.
Hi folks,

PUG is back  

Cheers Adelheid




RE: Încredible eagle shot!!!

2004-01-28 Thread frank theriault
Hmmm...

Shot with a Canon, eh?



cheers,
frank
PS:  Unlike others, I happened to notice that you didn't shoot it, Sylwester 
.

"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: Sylwester Pietrzyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Încredible eagle shot!!!
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:51:22 +0100
http://www.pbase.com/image/25524341
Couldn't imagine better composition and level of details ;-
--
Best Regards
Sylwek

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Re: Scanning Question

2004-01-28 Thread Mark Cassino
What do you plan to do with the images once scanned?  It seems like that 
would be the real driver.  If you plan to print them, does the printer 
require RGB or will it work OK with grayscale?

- MCC

At 11:01 AM 1/27/2004 -0800, you wrote:

Over the next few weeks I'm going to attempt scanning a lot
of conventional B&W negs.  I have heard a number of
conflicting opinions on the best way to do this.  Most
comments center around whether to scan in RGB or greyscale.
Greyscale would be nice as I could save some space, but if
RBG will give higher quality results, I'll bite the bullet.
-

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Kalamazoo, MI

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Re: FW: PDML : Vivitar 19mm (was: MIR-47K 20mm f2.8 lens tests or experiences)

2004-01-28 Thread frank theriault
Shel,

I figured I better throw that line in there as a "pre-emptive strike".  


- the oof-meister

"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Indeed ...  (good natured jibe)

OOF frank theriault wrote:

> OTOH, if you've seen some of my photos, you'll know that sharpness isn't 
my
> Holy Grail...  

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Re: FW: PDML : Vivitar 19mm (was: MIR-47K 20mm f2.8 lens tests or experiences)

2004-01-28 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Indeed ...  (good natured jibe)

OOF frank theriault wrote:
 
> OTOH, if you've seen some of my photos, you'll know that sharpness isn't my
> Holy Grail...  



RE: FW: PDML : Vivitar 19mm (was: MIR-47K 20mm f2.8 lens tests or experiences)

2004-01-28 Thread frank theriault
Hi, Nick,

Could be two different models.  Sounds like Paul's has a ~much~ larger 
filter ring than mine, which is  62mm.  Also, given that it's a cheap lens, 
there are likely QC issues from sample to sample.

I also think that much of it is that some are more demanding and critical 
than others.  When I read things like "unusable wider than f11" (I'm not 
referring to a similar statement made in this thread, because I see it all 
the time referring to other lenses), I know that the author is ~much~ more 
critical than I am, as I've really never come across a lens that's 
"unusable" at any aperture.  I've made some acceptable photos (at least 
acceptable to me) with some pretty cheap and nasty lenses, so if I praise a 
product, take it worth a grain of salt.

OTOH, if you've seen some of my photos, you'll know that sharpness isn't my 
Holy Grail...  

cheers,
frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: "Nick Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FW: PDML : Vivitar 19mm (was: MIR-47K 20mm f2.8 lens tests or 
experiences)
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 19:36:39 -

Message from a non-posting "member". I'm guessing there could be two 
production lines, or possibly two different models, of this lens given the 
totally polar viewpoints?

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OT: Photoshop CS

2004-01-28 Thread tom
Question - When I open a file, the dialog box comes up with the files listed
in file mode, and sorted by size. I can hit the little dropdown box to
change the parms, but I can't figure out how to get it to default to show
details and sort by name.

I'm running XP pro.

Any help appreciated.

tv



Re: Graywolf's Photo

2004-01-28 Thread graywolf
Bang! 

I entirely agree about the hands. The photo misses the "decisive moment" by 
about a week. And, yes, it is a genuine barber shop. Something that is 
disappearing in the US being mostly replaced by Unisex Styling Salons.

I do have a lot of emotional involvement with this photo, but it has nothing to 
do with its artistic merit. Those who have been following my journal will 
realize it is the cumulation of nearly a years odyssey trying to get a darkroom 
to do 4x5's together, and then finding the shutter had gone off to la-la land on 
the Graphic and hving to fix that. It is the first shot that I have done since 
then that was not just a test shot, so for me it is a big landmark.

I really only posted it as a sample of a competently done flash photo from a 
1000% manual camera which tied into the discussion about your photos, Boris. 
Somehow, we got into a long artistic discussion about it. My excuse is I was 
huddling inside out of the snow with nothing better to do.

Actually, the fact that some saw enough artistic merit in the photo to bother 
discussing it, is I realize quite a complement to me. Thanks folks.

--

Boris Liberman wrote:

Hi!

I looked at this photo once and couldn't make up my mind about the
sink. Then I read some of the comments and returned to the photo. Then
I noticed that both the barber and his customer are of considerable
age. At least for Israel. It is rare to find such a pair in local
barber shops. Hmmm, is barber shop proper name for it?
Anyway, I don't see any problems except the sink here. I think it
could be cropped or shot vertically. I even think that by cropping
just the sink the certain symmetry would be achieved as it would seem
that the wall just on the left of the customer and the reflection in
the mirror are about to intersect beyond the frame. The shot would all
tilt a little to the left and this would fit the direction - from the
barber who's leaning somewhat to its customer...
Also, I don't know about the rules, but I'd like to see more of the
barber's hands and see what he is actually doing...
Just my cents... Don't shoot me on sight, will you?

Boris


--
graywolf
http://graywolfphoto.com
"You might as well accept people as they are,
you are not going to be able to change them anyway."



Re: OT: unusual list behavior

2004-01-28 Thread Steve Desjardins
BTW, welcome back, Marnie.  Haven't seen you post in a while.  Have you
been lurking?  ;-)


Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/28/04 01:03PM >>>
>In a message dated 1/28/2004 2:49:53 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>It does not seem to have reached the list...

It did on my list. ;-)

About four messages down from your rereply (sorted by date, newest at
top).

Marnie aka Doe 



Re: OT: Developer for Fujicolor Press 800?

2004-01-28 Thread graywolf
Just have it developed normally. You went to an honest shop. No one pushes C-41, 
at least in a processing machine. Bill Robb will tell you it can't be done at 
all. However, I think he is wrong about that, it can be pushed if you hand 
develop it. But C-41 film works quite well at one stop underexposure, you just 
lose a bit of shadow detail.

--

Ryan Lee wrote:

Hey all.. Just got back from a massive camping trip, and boy was it fun..
One headache now though, and unfortunately it's not from the sun. One of the
rolls I took was Press 800 but rated at 1600, and I was intending to take it
down to the prolab to get them to leave it in the soup a bit longer.
However, the one I went to near where I live wasn't going to do it. Anyway,
John Coyle was generous enough to volunteer his developing kit to help me
out, but I was wondering if anyone has suggestions for developer to use..
Also, if anyone's done this before, any tips on developing times?
Thanks,
Ryan


--
graywolf
http://graywolfphoto.com
"You might as well accept people as they are,
you are not going to be able to change them anyway."



Re: Vivitar 19mm

2004-01-28 Thread Lon Williamson
In my hands, the K 24mm f2.8 has chromatic aberration out
the wing wang.
Flavio Minelli wrote:
Not to pour cold water on your enthusiasms, but must somewhat disagree
with what have been said about this lens. I have it too but right now
it's one of my most unused lenses, especially since I got a SMCK 24/2.8.
Of course such a lens (the 19) will rarely see an extensive use
anyway...



Re: OT: Labelling messages by topic D: S: F: P: OT: and so on (2)

2004-01-28 Thread Lon Williamson
Frank is now in my kill file.  And also, my drinks file.
Hic.
---Lon the Blatently Stupid.

And, BTW, Cotty can't be trusted any further than you can
throw any engine out of a 1950's 'Murican car.
Hic.  -Lon, the icredibly besotten.

frank theriault wrote:
Drinks?  Did someone say Drinks?



Re: Scanning Question

2004-01-28 Thread Shel Belinkoff
No, it's what ~I~ meant to say.  I'm newish to this scanning
thing, and it's entirely possible I may not know the
difference between a really good scan and a lesser quality
scan.

Boris Liberman wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> >Of course, it's always possible that I can't tell a good
> >scan from a poor one, or a good photograph or image from a
> >poor one.
> 
> This is something I did not say, nor meant to imply...
> 
> 
> 
> Boris



Re: Film: And the Dead Shall Rise...

2004-01-28 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Antti-Pekka,

My personal belief is that it is NOT the lack of film availabilty that
will be the issue, but the cost to buy and PROCESS/PRINT it.
Depending on where you are in the world, this may be the case.  Here
in the USA, the number of 1 hour minilabs is starting to drop unless
they cough up enough to buy the digital labs.  The price per print
will slowly rise on the film side and may slowly decline on the
digital side.

Areas of the world where computerization is lower, film will be more
dominant.  In other words, it is an economic decision, not a
technological or quality one.  Whatever is the cheapest to use will
become the norm.  So where I live, digital is coming on strong.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Wednesday, January 28, 2004, 4:21:46 AM, you wrote:

>> -Original Message-
>> where have you read this? film is going away because the people
>> who used to
>> buy the most aren't buying it.
>> 
>> Herb

APV> I did not read it anywhere. Like I said it just occurred to me that
APV> this is used as one of the reasons why to go digital. I have heard
APV> recently this kind of statements (locally)... when someone is 
APV> trying to convince him/hersel why he/she should buy a digital camera
APV> right now (a good reason to convince oneself to buy a DSLR which 
APV> does not have all the specs one would really want ;-).
APV> It's like going to panic and selling current film gear because
APV> the value of the gear will drop pretty soon "because there will be
APV> no film available." This sounds like a ridiculous reason but I've
APV> seen more crazy ones when someone is thinking of buying a new 
APV> car for example :-) These are the kind of reasons rehearsed to be
APV> presented to the wife...

APV> It does not have anything to do with the fact that film market
APV> is shrinking (not going away) because the people who used to buy
APV> it aren't buying it any more (because they use digicams).

APV> A film company stopping to make film altogether because the market
APV> is no longer growing is another thing. The film market is still
APV> HUGE globally and will be for a very long time (not just the next
APV> couple of years) so there will be plenty of film available.
APV> This is just my view of what will happen. One cannot prove it the
APV> way or the other, we need to get back to this question after some
APV> 10-20 years to see if the film is still available or not. I have
APV> been wrong before... but usually I have been right ;-)

APV> Antti-Pekka

APV> ---
APV> Antti-Pekka Virjonen
APV> Computec Oy, Turku Finland
APV> Gsm: +358-500-789 753

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Re: Win98SE & *istD

2004-01-28 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
Peter Hillerstrom a écrit:

Hi!

Has anybody hooked up an *istD to a win98SE PC?

Seen some threads about win98 not supporting USB fully
but win98SE should work.
Have bought myself a used laptop with win98SE. It
wants me to insert a driver for the camera when I
connect it to the USB-port :(
The *ist D is only Usb 1.1, you can use a cheap CompactFlash/Pcmcia 
adapter on a laptop computer; it's more  faster.

Michel



RE: Best pix of 2003

2004-01-28 Thread ernreed2
Rob Brigham posted, among other things:
> 
> I actually quite like many of the shots in Doug's link though...
> 
> Then again I am more into "nice" pics than reportage/docupics so I guess
> I would, wouldn't I?
> 

I liked the pics Doug shared, too. Especially with the "relative lack" of 
reportage/documentary photos -- Yesterday my copy of "News Photographer" 
arrived, with the Best of Photojournalism 2003 photos contained therein. War, 
war, war, plague, plague, war, hard times -- Seemed to me an even more 
depressing collection of photographs than usual. This group of pics (that Doug 
shared) was a nice little antidote.

One other depressing point about the News Photographer collection too -- so 
very many images with muddy blotchy shadows, even muddy, blotchy midtones. 
Seems another drawback to digital taking over the press photogs' kit: the 
images are technically ghastly. But perhaps in just a little more time, those 
problems will disappear. Doubtful we can say the same about wars and plagues 
and Man's Inhumanity To Man.




RE: Best pix of 2003

2004-01-28 Thread tom
Just out of curiousity...do any of these looked dovtored to you?

My mom had sent me this link and I sort of dismissed it. She sends me a lot
of doctored crap.

tv 

> -Original Message-
> From: Rob Brigham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 12:07 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Best pix of 2003
> 
> Ya don't say!
> 
> I almost sent a sarcastic reply to your comment aimed at 
> Sylwester, but when two similar comments came in together I 
> figured 'give the guy a break - he is obviously having a bad day!'
> 
> I actually quite like many of the shots in Doug's link though...
> 
> Then again I am more into "nice" pics than reportage/docupics 
> so I guess I would, wouldn't I?
> 
> Hope things get better as the day progresses...
> 
> If not, follow Cotty's advice - "HAVE A DRINK!  HAVE A DRINK! 
>  HAVE A DRINK!  HAVE A DRINK!" - maybe things will improve then!
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 28 January 2004 17:01
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Best pix of 2003
> > 
> > 
> > Well, maybe "pap" was too strong a word.  I'm real cranky this 
> > morning.
> > 
> > Paul Stenquist wrote:
> > 
> > > but I don't think that any of these are "pap."
> > >
> > 
> > 
> 
> 



Win98SE & *istD

2004-01-28 Thread Peter Hillerstrom
Hi!

Has anybody hooked up an *istD to a win98SE PC?

Seen some threads about win98 not supporting USB fully
but win98SE should work.

Have bought myself a used laptop with win98SE. It
wants me to insert a driver for the camera when I
connect it to the USB-port :(

/Peter
  

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RE: Regarding recent critique request, and scanning questions

2004-01-28 Thread Rothman, Aric
The Scanwit is a 35mm film scanner.

http://www.photoscientia.co.uk/Review.htm

I did not operate the Nikon scanner.  The fellow who performed the
scan for me is a seasoned B&W photographer, processor, and wet printer.

Aric

> -Original Message-
> From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 11:55 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Regarding recent critique request, and scanning questions
> 
> 
> Is that Scanwit a flatbed scanner?
> Did you scan the negs on the Nikon scanner, 
> or did someone do it for you?  
> 
> "Rothman, Aric" wrote:
> 
> > I thought my scanner might be to blame.  Admittedly a cheapo
> > (Scanwit 2720S), I scanned some negatives with the local
> > camera shops Nikon scanner and got similar results.
> 



RE: Regarding recent critique request, and scanning questions

2004-01-28 Thread Rothman, Aric
It's a rainbow.  When I told my wife I had a rainbow image in B&W, she
derisively laughed, and said it would "just be gas!"  After she saw it,
she asked for a print to give to a friend as a gift!

Aric

> -Original Message-
> From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 12:07 PM
> To: Rothman, Aric
> Subject: Re: Regarding recent critique request, and scanning questions
> 
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Fascinating. To me it looks like a forcefield of some sort. A little
> patch of bright in the middle part of the land completes this. I hope
> I am at least half-reasonably clear.
> 
> Boris
> 



Re: Optio 550, was Re: D: Too much D?

2004-01-28 Thread Gary Sibio
At 09:01 AM 1/28/2004, you wrote:
> I'd like to know what you think of the Optio 550.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, in part:
> >
> > I'm surprised myself that there isn't much discussion about other Pentax
> > digital equipment. Given the slightest encouragement (you are warned!) I
would
> > be happy to discuss the wonderful Optio 550 ...


I have the Optio 555, which is essentially the same camera, and I love it. 
It's with me all the time. Fits great in a fanny pack.

BTW, there is a mail list for Optio users although it's pretty dead right 
now. If anyone here is interested in livening it up you can join by sending 
a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Gary J Sibio
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.earthlink.net/~garysibio/
You know you're having a bad day when Elton John rewrites the lyrics to 
"Candle in the Wind" for you. 



RE: People & Their Bikes - Frank, one more for your collection!

2004-01-28 Thread tom
You're working the wrong angle.

You have a camera and you shoot b/w, therefore you're an artist. 

See where I'm going here?

tv

> -Original Message-
> From: Ryan Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 12:01 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: People & Their Bikes - Frank, one more for your 
> collection!
> 
> lol Cotty! Thanks, but truth is girls don't seem to go for 
> skinny. Maybe if I stick (no pun intended) around long 
> enough, twigs will come back?
> 
> Cheers,
> Ryan
> 
> PS. Lasses don't go for bicycles either! Two strikes.. argh. 
> I hear a lot of them have a thing for tour de france 
> cyclists' calves.. Another thing I haven't got.. Three 
> strikes.. That was quick.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "pentax list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 2:30 AM
> Subject: OT: People & Their Bikes - Frank, one more for your 
> collection!
> 
> 
> > On 28/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
> >
> > >
> > >http://www.geocities.com/heygoosey/RyanBikeBrissie.JPG
> > >I luckily had a couple of shots left on a roll I wanted to 
> get printed,
> so
> > >what better way to waste film than a self portrait! I just 
> got my Singh
> Ray
> > >Gold & Blue Polariser in the mail today, pity I couldn't 
> have used it for
> > >the shot, but hey.. next time..
> > >
> > >Cheers!
> > >Ryan
> >
> > Thanks Ryan, nice to put a face to a name. You'll have all the girls
> > swooning, dammit.
> >
> > Oh yeah, nice bike, too ;-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >   Cotty
> >
> >
> > ___/\__
> > ||   (O)   |  People, Places, Pastiche
> > ||=|  www.macads.co.uk/snaps
> > _
> > Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 



RE: Best pix of 2003

2004-01-28 Thread Rob Brigham
Ya don't say!

I almost sent a sarcastic reply to your comment aimed at Sylwester, but
when two similar comments came in together I figured 'give the guy a
break - he is obviously having a bad day!'

I actually quite like many of the shots in Doug's link though...

Then again I am more into "nice" pics than reportage/docupics so I guess
I would, wouldn't I?

Hope things get better as the day progresses...

If not, follow Cotty's advice - "HAVE A DRINK!  HAVE A DRINK!  HAVE A
DRINK!  HAVE A DRINK!" - maybe things will improve then!



> -Original Message-
> From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 28 January 2004 17:01
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Best pix of 2003
> 
> 
> Well, maybe "pap" was too strong a word.  I'm real cranky
> this morning.
> 
> Paul Stenquist wrote:
> 
> > but I don't think that any of these are "pap."
> >
> 
> 



Re: Regarding recent critique request, and scanning questions

2004-01-28 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

Fascinating. To me it looks like a forcefield of some sort. A little
patch of bright in the middle part of the land completes this. I hope
I am at least half-reasonably clear.

Boris



Re: People & Their Bikes - Frank, one more for your collection!

2004-01-28 Thread Ryan Lee
lol Cotty! Thanks, but truth is girls don't seem to go for skinny. Maybe if
I stick (no pun intended) around long enough, twigs will come back?

Cheers,
Ryan

PS. Lasses don't go for bicycles either! Two strikes.. argh. I hear a lot of
them have a thing for tour de france cyclists' calves.. Another thing I
haven't got.. Three strikes.. That was quick.

- Original Message - 
From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "pentax list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 2:30 AM
Subject: OT: People & Their Bikes - Frank, one more for your collection!


> On 28/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
>
> >
> >http://www.geocities.com/heygoosey/RyanBikeBrissie.JPG
> >I luckily had a couple of shots left on a roll I wanted to get printed,
so
> >what better way to waste film than a self portrait! I just got my Singh
Ray
> >Gold & Blue Polariser in the mail today, pity I couldn't have used it for
> >the shot, but hey.. next time..
> >
> >Cheers!
> >Ryan
>
> Thanks Ryan, nice to put a face to a name. You'll have all the girls
> swooning, dammit.
>
> Oh yeah, nice bike, too ;-)
>
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>   Cotty
>
>
> ___/\__
> ||   (O)   |  People, Places, Pastiche
> ||=|  www.macads.co.uk/snaps
> _
> Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
>
>




Re: Încredible eagle shot!!!

2004-01-28 Thread Doug Brewer
At 11:08 AM 1/28/04, throwing caution to the wind, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

Why waste our time with such crap ...

Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:
>
> http://www.pbase.com/image/25524341
> Couldn't imagine better composition and level of details ;-
>
> --
> Best Regards
> Sylwek
Did we forget our sense of humor med this morning? 



Re: Încredible eagle shot!!!

2004-01-28 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 28.01.04 18:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Yes, Sylwek, your picture did not Draw The Viewer In.  It exhibited a
> Disconnect.  It did not render adequately the Subtle Interplay Of Light And
> Shadow.  It did not Tell A Story.  You obviously did not Have The Entire Scene
> Completed In Your Head Before You Even Picked Up The Camera.
> 
> HAR.
> 
I am not worthy, I am not worthy ;-)

P.S. It wasn't even my shot anyway ;-)

-- 
Best Regards
Sylwek




Re: Best pix of 2003

2004-01-28 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Well, maybe "pap" was too strong a word.  I'm real cranky
this morning.

Paul Stenquist wrote:

> but I don't think that any of these are "pap."
>



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