Re: Frank's Cat
I do note a family resemblance. Shel Belinkoff wrote: http://home.earthlink.net/~digisnaps/franks_cat.html shel
Re: istD et al price & availabiity
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Re: istD et al price & availabiity > Just thought I'd add a comment as I passed through the lobby here. Just > got a Calumet catalogue a few days ago. They're pushing digital gear very > strongly. Nikon, Canon, Fuji, Kodak ... all listed. Conspicuous by its > absence is the pentax lineup. Calumet has never sold Pentax 35mm gear. I don't remember if they sell medium format or not. William Robb
Re: istD preferred lens survey in archive?
On 24 May 2004 at 15:26, Mark Stringer wrote: Has there been a survey in the past about what lens istD owners are shooting? How did the popular lens fair in the istD change? I've always used a lot of lenses. I generally carry 13 with my *ist D kit. Current heavy users include the K 50/1.4, the Vivitar Series 1 90/2.5, the A 400/5.6, the K 85/1.8, the K 24/3.5, FA 28-105 and the Sigma 17-35. Most of these were also among my favorites in 35mm film, although I didn't own any autofocus zooms until I bought the *ist D. I think the M 35/2 got a better workout in my film days as did the K 135/2.5. Paul Paul
Re: Frank's Cat
I always thought it'd be grumpier.. Maybe it's broken spirited and now just takes the assorted bunny ears and reindeer antlers as an unchangeable part of life.. :-) Ryan - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 9:21 AM Subject: Frank's Cat > http://home.earthlink.net/~digisnaps/franks_cat.html > > shel > >
Re: Follow-up Question on Chromatic Aberration
i mean color fringing. that is what i notice and it is annoying on film. on the *istD it isn't as annoying because of the lesser FOV. Herb - Original Message - From: "jtainter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 5:26 PM Subject: Follow-up Question on Chromatic Aberration > I have a follow-up. When someone says that a specific lens has CA problems on the *ist D, do they mean that it shows color fringing, or just overall softness, or both? (E.g., some posts have said that the FA* 24 has CA problems on the *ist D, but I haven't noticed it.)
Re: New Pentax DSLR's?
their stated main business now is CD/DVD pickup lenses, upper mid range P&S digital cameras, entry/mid level DSLRs, and medical optics. P&S digital cameras and medical optics are the only place where most analysts are optimistic. Herb - Original Message - From: "Dario Bonazza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 5:07 PM Subject: Re: New Pentax DSLR's? > A smaller company than Pentax will fit better. For Pentax, a niche market > can only complement their main business. Now they are trying to re-build > their main business, and all of their resources have to pursue that goal. At > least, this is what I understand.
Re: Optio 555 discontinued
"Albert F." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>Seems like the Optio 555 is discontinued. Any replacement news ? >> >Maybe Pentax 666, a "Devilishly" good 6 Megapixel compact! And why not? After all, "Lucifer" means "bringer of light"! ;-) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Take a wild guess
Hi Jens Well - eyerone else seems to think that the p4681284.html is the digital and who am I to disagree? The second photo doesn't seem to have the same amount of definition as the first which suggests it's been subject to more processing. Out of curiousity, what's your opinion of the Epson for scanning negatives and slides? Regards Brian + Brian Walters Western Sydney, Australia On Mon, 24 May 2004 18:44 , 'Jens Bladt' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: >I took the same photograph twice: >One of the photographs was shot with Pentax MZ-S and SMC FA 1.4/50mm on 200 >ASA Fuji Superia, scanned on EPSON PERFECTION 3200 PHOTO. The other was shot >with SONY DSC F717 at 200 ASA. > >Which one was made with a PENTAX? > >http://gallery46369.fotopic.net/p4681284.html >http://gallery46369.fotopic.net/p4681285.html > >Jens Bladt Msg sent via Spymac Mail - http://www.spymac.com
Re: istD preferred lens survey in archive?
in the specific example of the FA* 24/2, i stopped using it much because it was not wide enough. on the *istD, i can fix the chromatic abberation during RAW conversion time in Photoshop CS. as for my other lenses, even with film, i was concluding that lenses other people thought highly of weren't that good for my needs. the *istD only made it more obvious. except for my FA 50/2.8 macro and my DA 16-45/4, i am shooting all FA* or A* glass unless i have to trim weight or size to an absolute minimum. Herb - Original Message - From: "Mark Stringer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PDML - Pentax (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 4:26 PM Subject: istD preferred lens survey in archive? > Has there been a survey in the past about what lens istD owners are shooting? How did the popular lens fair in the istD change? > > I'm curious as to how much pleasure my present lens favorites will bring if I had to shoot them on an istD. Will I like my FA24 as a 36mm as much as I do shooting film with it now?
Optio 555 discontinued
Maybe Pentax 666, a "Devilishly" good 6 Megapixel compact! Thanks, Albert >>Seems like the Optio 555 is discontinued. Any replacement news ? >> >>Antti-Pekka
Michigan PDML, more pics
I posted eleven shots from our weekend get together. The shots of the PDML folks with their cameras were shot on the Leica iiic with Summaton 35/3.5. (Hey, I had film in it.) The shots of the wildlife and of Ken and Bill at the pub were shot with the *ist D. The first shot, that of Ken Waller at breakfast, was shot with my cell phone. They're Here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder.tcl?folder_id=399769
Frank's Cat
http://home.earthlink.net/~digisnaps/franks_cat.html shel
Re: Can anyone identify these?
I think the seller does not know much if anything about camera equipment. They are clearly labeled as brands other than Pentax, yet he still thinks they are Pentax. He mentions they are clean, and have no Fungus, but I am assuming you asked him specifically about them. I'd say chances are decent that his approximation of the quality of the lenses and equipment would not match up with your experienced eye. IL Bill On May 24, 2004, at 1:20 AM, TMP wrote: Just got this from the seller, what do you guys think? "I will Answer your Questions as best as I Can, as I do not know alot about lenses .I will tell you what is written on them and where it is on them They are clean and Fungus free from what I can see they have there covers and padded bag,. the biggest lense has SIGMA written on it on side with multi-coated f = 75~300mm nothing written on lense,. The smaller lense has outside of lense multi-coated SIGMA super wide II , 1:2.8 f ~24mm. And other which looks like smaller lense is like one end attaches to camera and then lense attaches on to it has witten on side 2x Kax Macro teleplus mc7 then distances starting from 1:1 going up to 0.45m/50mm in green then white below 1:1.5 00/ 50mm that is all i can tell you I think they are Pentax lenses i have to brochures with Pentax accessories in it that came with lenses." tan. -Original Message- From: TMP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 22 May 2004 8:14 PM To: Net [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Can anyone identify these? Could be an absolute bargain! http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItem&category=4688&item=38138826 17&tc=photo tan.
Re: istD preferred lens survey in archive?
On 24 May 2004 at 15:26, Mark Stringer wrote: > Has there been a survey in the past about what lens istD owners are shooting? > How did the popular lens fair in the istD change? I'm still not as settled as I was with my full frame lens line-up and that's after shooting over 4000 images. > I'm curious as to how much pleasure my present lens favorites will bring if I > had to shoot them on an istD. Will I like my FA24 as a 36mm as much as I do > shooting film with it now? My 31mm was my defacto standard lens on my 35mm film bodies, I really like the AOV as it lends its self to a lot of the type of shooting I do. So I had high expectations for the FA*24/2 on my new *ist D, unfortunately my hopes were dashed. I've ended up back with the 31LTD on the *ist D which whilst not a bad thing isn't where I'm really comfortable. Since I sold my A24/2.8 I tend to just straight from the 31mm to the 20mm which is quite a leap in AOV. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Multiple exposures with the *istD
On 24 May 2004 at 19:17, Jostein wrote: > In reply to Rob: > > I'd use multiexposure for astro and other low light conditions where slow > movement might cause a blur. Eg. forest plants that would move even in > slight breeze. And the occational time-lapse... The sorts of suggestions you made are just the type of things that I'd shoot multiple images for and then post process in PS. I'm still not sure if I can ever find a use for it. I do wish that they'd concentrated their efforts on important things like providing wider stop range for auto bracketing and maybe focus and aperture bracketing. These sorts of "advancements" would have been far more useful to me as they can't be duplicated post capture. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Digital Street Shooting + Question
On 24 May 2004 at 22:09, mike wilson wrote: > Everyone has been spoiled by the S series, with the "S"liding lens > group. Nothing is as small as those, with the same functionality. A friend of mine has the new Sony DSCT1 and and two others have the new Optios and I'm afraid IMHO it beats the pants of the Optio S cameras. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Follow-up Question on Chromatic Aberration
On 24 May 2004 at 15:26, jtainter wrote: > Thanks for the enlightening responses on my CA question. > > I have a follow-up. When someone says that a specific lens has CA problems on > the *ist D, do they mean that it shows color fringing, or just overall softness, > or both? (E.g., some posts have said that the FA* 24 has CA problems on the *ist > D, but I haven't noticed it.) On the FA*24 The colours split towards the corners both softening and distorting the image. I'm sure it happens more at particular apertures but after some atrocious results I've pretty much packed it away. I suppose it's far better than most people generally experience given that the majority use zooms but relative to the 31LTD for instance it's poor. The 31mm in the same situation ie a panoramic shot in the scrub at wide aperture will render remote branches sharp and CA free right to the corners of the frame. I'll have to dig up some of my poor FA*24 shots as examples. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: istD et al price & availabiity
> > Just thought I'd add a comment as I passed through the lobby here. Just > got a Calumet catalogue a few days ago. They're pushing digital gear very > strongly. Nikon, Canon, Fuji, Kodak ... all listed. Conspicuous by its > absence is the pentax lineup. > > Shel Belinkoff As a counterpoint, I was interested to note that San Jose Camera & Video not only mentioned Pentax in their latest print ads in the Mercury News - they even mentioned the *ist-D!
Re: New Pentax DSLR's?
> From: Dario Bonazza > Subject: Re: New Pentax DSLR's? > Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 14:39:18 -0700 > > I wrote: > > > > > OK, this is what you will do, if you were Pentax. This is also what I would > > have done in the past, if I was Pentax (a high end film SLR is not the niche > > product I'd market today). If Pentax was Pentax, as it is, they often did > > hard to explain moves, half-moves, contradicting moves. > > I'm trying to understand what Pentax will do (and could reasonably do), not > > what anybody within PDML think Pentax should do. > Re-reading my words, they feel rather harsh to me, especially the last > sentence. Yes indeed, but fortunately I am not "anybody" , I am Alexander ;-) > That was not my intention, as I only tried to be straight and > clear. So, I apologize for such a possible unintentional taste. > I think that is what we all do: guessing what Pentax could do. As long as they don't give us more information everything is possible (or irrelevant). Enjoy, Alexander __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/
Photographs of Frank Gehry buildings
Someone on the list posted links showing Frank Gehry Buildings (in Europe I think) a few days ago. I'd really like to get this link again, please. Thanks a lot. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
Re: how to identify the GFM attendees
Annsan wrote: > Tom, you will then recognize me as the only other > insane person :) > annsan >From now on dubbed "anninsan" Dario (truly missing not to be there)
RE: New Pentax DSLR's?
Pentax obviously must support the sale of the probably large amount of film related products - lenses etc. - that are already in production, in stock or at the retailers. I guess the *ist is an example of such policies. Other than that I too believe Pentax will/should conduct tremendous efforts into developing the digital segment. I doubt this means offering a new DSLR. I believe Pentax has a very long tradition of keeping the same model in the market for a very long time. So, what we might see is probably a *ist Dn, featuring rather small, but conspicuous improvements (an example of the past is the panorama function of the Z-series, the manual ability of the ME-Super etc.). Or perhaps a cheeper *ist D version (no stainless steel frame). Furthermore I expect Pentax to develop a high end all-in-one EVF-camera (no exchangable lenses) - like many other manufactureres do - probably in the 8-10 MP range to compete in resolution, reach deeper into the market for non DSLR cameras and to support internal product developments. It could be a very small and light one - or a model featuring movie functions (made already ??) - or a "limited" model with very high standards for design, details, lens etc (niche). Or even a digital "limited" rangefinder for limited lenses (like the Epson-Leica-M bastard). Lots of posibilities, just not a new DSLR. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Dario Bonazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 24. maj 2004 23:08 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: New Pentax DSLR's? alexanderkrohe wrote: > Serving only a niche market would certainly be not > profitable enough. Niche markets usually allow higher gain per item, hence can be profitable, but not for a company the size of Pentax. A smaller company (Cosina, Leica, and so on) could fit a niche market. > OTOH by tradition Pentax has always > offered some niche market products such as the soft > lenses for 6x7 cameras, limited lenses, stereo > attachments and so on. As special items within a wider market, not as a business in its own. > Certainly they need mass-produced articles. But as any > other better camera producer they don't just sell > stand-alone products, they do sell camera systems > (including a range of cameras from high-end to basic > level). Will they support a full-range system in the > future ? A full-range system includes niche-products. OK, this is what you will do, if you were Pentax. This is also what I would have done in the past, if I was Pentax (a high end film SLR is not the niche product I'd market today). If Pentax was Pentax, as it is, they often did hard to explain moves, half-moves, contradicting moves. I'm trying to understand what Pentax will do (and could reasonably do), not what anybody within PDML think Pentax should do. > I don't have any background information about the > Pentax business, Me neither, currently. > but in my understanding a low-volume > niche- market would probably be more profitable for a > mid-sized company (such as Pentax) than for a large > company. A smaller company than Pentax will fit better. For Pentax, a niche market can only complement their main business. Now they are trying to re-build their main business, and all of their resources have to pursue that goal. At least, this is what I understand. Of course, I can be wrong. Dario Bonazza
RE: Take a wild guess
I believe it is. My MZ-S and PZ-1 says 6.7! Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Antonio Aparicio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 24. maj 2004 22:51 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Take a wild guess Perhaps it is how it rounds up the numbers? - I have always thought that the stop between 5.6 and 8 was 6.6. A. On 24 May 2004, at 22:43, Jens Bladt wrote: > I lied a little (very, very little) about the f-stops. And I can asure > you, > that the FA 1.4/50mm can give you an f-stop (? step) called 6.7 > (between 5.6 > and 8) according to my PZ-1 LCD. > > Jens Bladt > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt > > > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > Fra: Antonio Aparicio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sendt: 24. maj 2004 19:27 > Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Emne: Re: Take a wild guess > > > Also, the 50/1.4 does have an f stop at 6.7, but rather 6.6. ;-) > > A. > On 24 May 2004, at 19:18, Antonio Aparicio wrote: > >> Just looking at the bokeh I would say pic 2 is the pentax 50mm 1.4 >> >> A. >> >> On 24 May 2004, at 18:44, Jens Bladt wrote: >> >>> I took the same photograph twice: >>> One of the photographs was shot with Pentax MZ-S and SMC FA 1.4/50mm >>> on 200 >>> ASA Fuji Superia, scanned on EPSON PERFECTION 3200 PHOTO. The other >>> was shot >>> with SONY DSC F717 at 200 ASA. >>> >>> Which one was made with a PENTAX? >>> >>> http://gallery46369.fotopic.net/p4681284.html >>> http://gallery46369.fotopic.net/p4681285.html >>> >>> Jens Bladt >>> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt >>> >>> >>> >> > > >
Re: Follow-up Question on Chromatic Aberration
jtainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >some posts have said that the FA* 24 has CA problems on the *ist D, >but I haven't noticed it.) Neither have I. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: New Pentax DSLR's?
I wrote: > > Certainly they need mass-produced articles. But as any > > other better camera producer they don't just sell > > stand-alone products, they do sell camera systems > > (including a range of cameras from high-end to basic > > level). Will they support a full-range system in the > > future ? A full-range system includes niche-products. > > OK, this is what you will do, if you were Pentax. This is also what I would > have done in the past, if I was Pentax (a high end film SLR is not the niche > product I'd market today). If Pentax was Pentax, as it is, they often did > hard to explain moves, half-moves, contradicting moves. > I'm trying to understand what Pentax will do (and could reasonably do), not > what anybody within PDML think Pentax should do. Re-reading my words, they feel rather harsh to me, especially the last sentence. That was not my intention, as I only tried to be straight and clear. So, I apologize for such a possible unintentional taste. All the best, Dario Bonazza
Re: istD preferred lens survey in archive?
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Stringer) wrote: > Has there been a survey in the past about what lens istD owners are > shooting? How did the popular lens fair in the istD change? > > I'm curious as to how much pleasure my present lens favorites will > bring if I had to shoot them on an istD. Will I like my FA24 as a 36mm > as much as I do shooting film with it now? I doubt it, personally. My favourite lens on film was the 85/1.8 SMC Takumar on a Spotmatic F. My definite favourite on the *istD is the 50/1.4 FA, which "feels" much like the 85 did on film, from the point of view of framing and shot selection, but is much smaller and lighter to carry around. The other lenses I have for the *istD are a Sigma 24-70/2.8, which isn't bad, but is heavy and complicated to work in comparison with the 50, and a Pentax 80-320 FA, which haven't yet taken a picture with in anger. I'm waiting for a 12-24 Sigma, simple because it's the widest lens that's (ostensibly) available that I can use on the *istD. --- John Dallman, [EMAIL PROTECTED], HTML mail is treated as probable spam.
Re: istD et al price & availability
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jtainter) wrote: > In regard to Pentax's problems supplying lenses, it is also worth > noting that Sigma seems unable to supply its 12-24, which many dslr > owners are interested in. My lab has had a standing order for one with > Adorama since early February. I've had one on order since November. > Is there something about these new lenses that makes them more > difficult to produce? (Still, that wouldn't account for why the FA 77 > is unavailable.) My dealer's theory is that Sigma are selling all they can make in Nikon and Canon fittings, and don't feel the need to divert production into "less popular" mounts. --- John Dallman, [EMAIL PROTECTED], HTML mail is treated as probable spam.
Follow-up Question on Chromatic Aberration
Thanks for the enlightening responses on my CA question. I have a follow-up. When someone says that a specific lens has CA problems on the *ist D, do they mean that it shows color fringing, or just overall softness, or both? (E.g., some posts have said that the FA* 24 has CA problems on the *ist D, but I haven't noticed it.) Thanks, Joe
Re: PAW: "Oh, Deer!"
Hi, Monday, May 24, 2004, 6:37:50 PM, Shel wrote: > Just curious ... what's "awesome" about this photo? Is it that it's a > fawn? not just any old fawn, but a new-born lawn fawn at dawn! -- Cheers, Bob
Re: Digital Street Shooting + Question
Cotty wrote: Thanks Mike. The 33LF screen orientates just like the G2 screen, so the 33LF would be a good choice. I'm just concerned about the size and weight - it certainly weighs considerably less than a G2 but isn't as small as I thought it might be Everyone has been spoiled by the S series, with the "S"liding lens group. Nothing is as small as those, with the same functionality. Anyway, with the Domke flasher vest, you could carry a field camera and wonder which pocket you left it in. 8-) mike
Re: New Pentax DSLR's?
alexanderkrohe wrote: > Serving only a niche market would certainly be not > profitable enough. Niche markets usually allow higher gain per item, hence can be profitable, but not for a company the size of Pentax. A smaller company (Cosina, Leica, and so on) could fit a niche market. > OTOH by tradition Pentax has always > offered some niche market products such as the soft > lenses for 6x7 cameras, limited lenses, stereo > attachments and so on. As special items within a wider market, not as a business in its own. > Certainly they need mass-produced articles. But as any > other better camera producer they don't just sell > stand-alone products, they do sell camera systems > (including a range of cameras from high-end to basic > level). Will they support a full-range system in the > future ? A full-range system includes niche-products. OK, this is what you will do, if you were Pentax. This is also what I would have done in the past, if I was Pentax (a high end film SLR is not the niche product I'd market today). If Pentax was Pentax, as it is, they often did hard to explain moves, half-moves, contradicting moves. I'm trying to understand what Pentax will do (and could reasonably do), not what anybody within PDML think Pentax should do. > I don't have any background information about the > Pentax business, Me neither, currently. > but in my understanding a low-volume > niche- market would probably be more profitable for a > mid-sized company (such as Pentax) than for a large > company. A smaller company than Pentax will fit better. For Pentax, a niche market can only complement their main business. Now they are trying to re-build their main business, and all of their resources have to pursue that goal. At least, this is what I understand. Of course, I can be wrong. Dario Bonazza
Re: Take a wild guess
Perhaps it is how it rounds up the numbers? - I have always thought that the stop between 5.6 and 8 was 6.6. A. On 24 May 2004, at 22:43, Jens Bladt wrote: I lied a little (very, very little) about the f-stops. And I can asure you, that the FA 1.4/50mm can give you an f-stop (? step) called 6.7 (between 5.6 and 8) according to my PZ-1 LCD. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Antonio Aparicio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 24. maj 2004 19:27 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Take a wild guess Also, the 50/1.4 does have an f stop at 6.7, but rather 6.6. ;-) A. On 24 May 2004, at 19:18, Antonio Aparicio wrote: Just looking at the bokeh I would say pic 2 is the pentax 50mm 1.4 A. On 24 May 2004, at 18:44, Jens Bladt wrote: I took the same photograph twice: One of the photographs was shot with Pentax MZ-S and SMC FA 1.4/50mm on 200 ASA Fuji Superia, scanned on EPSON PERFECTION 3200 PHOTO. The other was shot with SONY DSC F717 at 200 ASA. Which one was made with a PENTAX? http://gallery46369.fotopic.net/p4681284.html http://gallery46369.fotopic.net/p4681285.html Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
RE: Take a wild guess
I lied a little (very, very little) about the f-stops. And I can asure you, that the FA 1.4/50mm can give you an f-stop (? step) called 6.7 (between 5.6 and 8) according to my PZ-1 LCD. Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Antonio Aparicio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 24. maj 2004 19:27 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Take a wild guess Also, the 50/1.4 does have an f stop at 6.7, but rather 6.6. ;-) A. On 24 May 2004, at 19:18, Antonio Aparicio wrote: > Just looking at the bokeh I would say pic 2 is the pentax 50mm 1.4 > > A. > > On 24 May 2004, at 18:44, Jens Bladt wrote: > >> I took the same photograph twice: >> One of the photographs was shot with Pentax MZ-S and SMC FA 1.4/50mm >> on 200 >> ASA Fuji Superia, scanned on EPSON PERFECTION 3200 PHOTO. The other >> was shot >> with SONY DSC F717 at 200 ASA. >> >> Which one was made with a PENTAX? >> >> http://gallery46369.fotopic.net/p4681284.html >> http://gallery46369.fotopic.net/p4681285.html >> >> Jens Bladt >> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt >> >> >> >
Re: PAW: "Oh, Deer!"
Generally, the mother drops them off in a safe place while she wanders about to browse. I watched one off and one from morning to early evening one Saturday a few years ago. About an hour before sunset, three does passed about 20 feet from where the fawn was hiding, then one turned around, stamped her foot, and the fawn got up and followed the group. I suppose that adult deer move about too much during the day for the little ones to keep up, so they drop them off while the adults feed, then round up the fawns when it's dinner time. Peter J. Alling wrote: I wonder where the mother was. Daniel J. Matyola wrote: We had a nice red-headed woodpecker visiting our bird feeder this weekend, but I couldn't get a shot of him, as he was too skittish. This morning I went outside to look for him, and found this character resting quietly on my lawn, within 15 feet of the rear deck: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2385562 I wanted to grab a shot before he ran away, and I was already late, so I used my Optio S. I hope he stays around long enough to try for a shot with my SuperProgram or *ist D. Dan
Re: istD et al price & availabiity
In regard to Pentax's problems supplying lenses, it is also worth noting that Sigma seems unable to supply its 12-24, which many dslr owners are interested in. My lab has had a standing order for one with Adorama since early February. Is there something about these new lenses that makes them more difficult to produce? (Still, that wouldn't account for why the FA 77 is unavailable.) Joe
istD preferred lens survey in archive?
Has there been a survey in the past about what lens istD owners are shooting? How did the popular lens fair in the istD change? I'm curious as to how much pleasure my present lens favorites will bring if I had to shoot them on an istD. Will I like my FA24 as a 36mm as much as I do shooting film with it now?
Re: how to identify the GFM attendees
On 24/5/04, THE ALLINGATOR, discombobulated, offered: >Yea, whatever you do don't clone Cotty. I shall visit you in the small hours and stick a bat up your night-dress. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: Digital Street Shooting + Question
>> Thanks Mike. The 33LF screen orientates just like the G2 screen, so the >> 33LF would be a good choice. I'm just concerned about the size and weight >> - it certainly weighs considerably less than a G2 but isn't as small as I >> thought it might be > >Being too lazy at this time to go back to the Pentax web site and check the >specs on the 33LF, is it similar in size and weight to the 550? If so, I >might >just mention that I regularly carry the 550 in a pocket, and I expect you >have >larger pockets than I do. Ahhh, thanks for that Eleanor. The 550 is 100mmx59x40 and the 33LF is 108x64x41 so only a bit bigger... Velly intellesting > >(Not necessarily deeper. At this time I am simply referring to literal >size. :-) Gotta be deeper than mine!!! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: LX problems--meter whacky and no infinity focus--all at once!
Sid, I can't speak to the metering. I've had strange metering, but not as wacky as your. A new aperture resistor fixed it and the part wasn't expensive as part of a CLA. The infinity focus issue is another manifestation of 'sticky mirror syndrome' to be cleaned up with a CLA. Ask ENReed, but the last LX overhaul I had done at Pentax was under $200. Call Colorado and ask to speak to Art, the LX specialist. Regards, Bob S. Sid writes: > Well, the LX went down in flames, so to speak.. The meter showed a > correct exposure, but wouldn't actually fire at the correct exposure; I > started getting lots of 3 to 7 second exposures in sunlight with 400 > ISO film installed > > Until I noticed it wouldn't focus at infinity-- on any lense!! Now I > seem to recall this is a known issue, the infinity focus thing-- with > LXen. Can anyone confirm this? > > But I am worried about my LX; any idea if this is a major > repair job? (as in, more than $200 bucks)?
Re: Take a wild guess
oops, that should be does NOT have and f stop On 24 May 2004, at 19:26, Antonio Aparicio wrote: Also, the 50/1.4 does have an f stop at 6.7, but rather 6.6. ;-) A. On 24 May 2004, at 19:18, Antonio Aparicio wrote: Just looking at the bokeh I would say pic 2 is the pentax 50mm 1.4 A. On 24 May 2004, at 18:44, Jens Bladt wrote: I took the same photograph twice: One of the photographs was shot with Pentax MZ-S and SMC FA 1.4/50mm on 200 ASA Fuji Superia, scanned on EPSON PERFECTION 3200 PHOTO. The other was shot with SONY DSC F717 at 200 ASA. Which one was made with a PENTAX? http://gallery46369.fotopic.net/p4681284.html http://gallery46369.fotopic.net/p4681285.html Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
Re: Take a wild guess
Also, the 50/1.4 does have an f stop at 6.7, but rather 6.6. ;-) A. On 24 May 2004, at 19:18, Antonio Aparicio wrote: Just looking at the bokeh I would say pic 2 is the pentax 50mm 1.4 A. On 24 May 2004, at 18:44, Jens Bladt wrote: I took the same photograph twice: One of the photographs was shot with Pentax MZ-S and SMC FA 1.4/50mm on 200 ASA Fuji Superia, scanned on EPSON PERFECTION 3200 PHOTO. The other was shot with SONY DSC F717 at 200 ASA. Which one was made with a PENTAX? http://gallery46369.fotopic.net/p4681284.html http://gallery46369.fotopic.net/p4681285.html Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
Re: Take a wild guess
Just looking at the bokeh I would say pic 2 is the pentax 50mm 1.4 A. On 24 May 2004, at 18:44, Jens Bladt wrote: I took the same photograph twice: One of the photographs was shot with Pentax MZ-S and SMC FA 1.4/50mm on 200 ASA Fuji Superia, scanned on EPSON PERFECTION 3200 PHOTO. The other was shot with SONY DSC F717 at 200 ASA. Which one was made with a PENTAX? http://gallery46369.fotopic.net/p4681284.html http://gallery46369.fotopic.net/p4681285.html Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
Re: Multiple exposures with the *istD
In reply to Rob: I'd use multiexposure for astro and other low light conditions where slow movement might cause a blur. Eg. forest plants that would move even in slight breeze. And the occational time-lapse... Jostein - Original Message - From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 6:01 PM Subject: Re: Multiple exposures with the *istD > Rob, > in response to ...In what circumstances would you be likely to use the multiple exposure function > on the *ist D? I've been shooting multiples on film where I do a sharp focus and then a soft focus, also leaves on flowing water and multiples as I zoom the lens, you know artsey fartsey stuff. > > > -Original Message- > From: Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: Multiple exposures with the *istD > > On 24 May 2004 at 11:30, Kenneth Waller wrote: > > > Rob, > > pg 84 step 3, in the manual, makes no mention of exposure compensation for > > multiple exposures. In the MZ-S and the PZ1P, which also have multiple exposure > > capabilities, there is no mention about exposure compensation for multiple > > exposures either and if you simply shoot multiples in these film cameras you get > > over exposed images. On those cameras I simply reset ISO per the number of > > multiple exposures - ie for 4 exposures, multiple ISO by 4 and reset ISO setting > > for that group of multiples. This can't be done on the *istD. > > Sorry I missed the thrust of the question obviously. However on the rare > occasions that I've used multiple exposures I've always used manual exposure in > any case. I wouldn't have even guessed that exposure compensation may have been > automated. This degree of automation seems a bit pointless anyhow, surely it > can only work effectively if the subsequent exposures are fin the same light > and from the same POV? You learn something everyday I guess. > > In what circumstances would you be likely to use the multiple exposure function > on the *ist D? > > > Rob Studdert > HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA > Tel +61-2-9554-4110 > UTC(GMT) +10 Hours > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ > Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 > > > > > PeoplePC Online > A better way to Internet > http://www.peoplepc.com >
Re: Take a wild guess
If they are both uncropped, the format ratio gives it away. The ...284 image being from the Sony, the ...285 from film. Jostein - Original Message - From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 6:44 PM Subject: Take a wild guess > I took the same photograph twice: > One of the photographs was shot with Pentax MZ-S and SMC FA 1.4/50mm on 200 > ASA Fuji Superia, scanned on EPSON PERFECTION 3200 PHOTO. The other was shot > with SONY DSC F717 at 200 ASA. > > Which one was made with a PENTAX? > > http://gallery46369.fotopic.net/p4681284.html > http://gallery46369.fotopic.net/p4681285.html > > Jens Bladt > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt > > >
Re: PAW: "Oh, Deer!"
Awesome! Norm Daniel J. Matyola wrote: We had a nice red-headed woodpecker visiting our bird feeder this weekend, but I couldn't get a shot of him, as he was too skittish. This morning I went outside to look for him, and found this character resting quietly on my lawn, within 15 feet of the rear deck: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2385562
Re: Shot RAW but out of latitude
Nope. I just cut and pasted, feathered and flattened. Of course, on my landscape I was fixing the blown out sky, which was an easy paste. Still, you could just paste in the parts with the blown out details. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/24/04 09:26AM >>> On 24 May 2004 at 8:46, Steve Desjardins wrote: > How about some auto bracketing and combining the two shots in photoshop? > This is a way to extend the latitude of the shot as long as there is > minimal movement. I did this once with a landscape just to see if I > could, and it worked fine, although I just used exposure comp for the > second shot. The autobracket should be fast enough to get an acceptable > match even with an animal subject. I have been using a dedicated application HDRShop to perform this function and it requires absolute registration or else it turns into a nightmare. The slightest movement in branches on a windy day causes coloured spuriae to be rendered in the difference areas, not nice. I hadn't considered Photoshop as the stand alone application used some pretty heavy manipulation which is well beyond layer additions and simple masking. Do you know of any on-line tutorials etc? Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Take a wild guess
On Mon, 24 May 2004, Jens Bladt wrote: > I took the same photograph twice: > One of the photographs was shot with Pentax MZ-S and SMC FA 1.4/50mm on 200 > ASA Fuji Superia, scanned on EPSON PERFECTION 3200 PHOTO. The other was shot > with SONY DSC F717 at 200 ASA. > > Which one was made with a PENTAX? > > http://gallery46369.fotopic.net/p4681284.html Sony > http://gallery46369.fotopic.net/p4681285.html Pentax Sony pushes the blue and this is noticable in the color of the blue post in the background. f8 on a DSC-F717 also has a much greater depth of field than f8 on a 35mm camera and you can see this in the background. Finally the exposure on the Pentax scan is a little off and having owned a Sony DSC-F717 and an Epson scanner I think that the scanner is more likely to give you incorrect exposure than the camera. If anything the camera overexposes and it has borderline done that hear (no detail in the boat deck). alex
Re: istD et al price & availabiity
The camera is available, it is the DA 16-45 that is backordered. This lens has been hard to get from the start. (It is, though, a fine lens and worth waiting for.) For reasons that I am trying to understand, Pentax has suddenly lost the ability to produce enough lenses to meet demand. The DA 16-45 is assembled in Vietnam. Is all lens assembly being sent to this plant? Is that the source of the problem? The FA 77 is backordered to Asia. I wonder where the new ones are being assembled, if Pentax will still produce them. Someone else posted last week that their local store cannot get anything from Pentax. Please speculate. This list has never been reticent about doing so. Pentax might be able to sell more *ist Ds if they could produce DA 16-45s to go with them. BTW, the FA 20 f2.8 is now listed at B&H as a special order item. Mark, if you order the kit, I'd bet that the vendor would ship the camera now and the lens later. Joe
Take a wild guess
I took the same photograph twice: One of the photographs was shot with Pentax MZ-S and SMC FA 1.4/50mm on 200 ASA Fuji Superia, scanned on EPSON PERFECTION 3200 PHOTO. The other was shot with SONY DSC F717 at 200 ASA. Which one was made with a PENTAX? http://gallery46369.fotopic.net/p4681284.html http://gallery46369.fotopic.net/p4681285.html Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
Re: New Pentax DSLR's?
alexanderkrohe wrote: > I don't think it is "too late". I think if they > release a high end film SRL it will be a niche product > (for minorities) and not a mass product. Its sales > number won't be that much affected by rising DSLR > sales. If Pentax had such an idea (and they probably had it some years ago, when launching the Limited series lenses), it's now sublimated under the heavy pressure of the falling film/rising digital market. Ltd lenses were introduced at a rough pace of one a year. If you were right, why not a single Limited lens introduced during the last 3 years? I'm afraid the Limited lenses are a finished chapter too. Believe me, now Pentax has far more important tasks to pursue than looking for small niche market. They are fighting hard (as never before) for their survival. I don't understand what Pentax is aiming at (do they?), but I understand what Pentax is not aiming at. They are not aiming at a niche market. > A high end film SLR as a mass product will certainly > be (or: would have been) a flop. I do also regret that > there never was a "true" LX successor. But then, the > MZ-S does almost everything better than the LX (except > motor-drive speed and interchangeable viewfinders) ... > and how many people really bought a long-roll magazine > for their LXs ?? The MZ-S is a great camera, a pity it was not released a few years before. Sadly, now the days of the film cameras (including SLR's) are gone forever. Yes, some niche will remain. How small and how long? All the best. Dario Bonazza
Re: Multiple exposures with the *istD
For me, use of multi-exposure would be either to add a moon or some such into the sky (different exposure, view, etc) or to make a collage in a portrait (different view). Neither seems to make sense for simple image merging that is being discussed. -- Best regards, Bruce Monday, May 24, 2004, 8:46:20 AM, you wrote: RS> On 24 May 2004 at 11:30, Kenneth Waller wrote: >> Rob, >> pg 84 step 3, in the manual, makes no mention of exposure compensation for >> multiple exposures. In the MZ-S and the PZ1P, which also have multiple exposure >> capabilities, there is no mention about exposure compensation for multiple >> exposures either and if you simply shoot multiples in these film cameras you get >> over exposed images. On those cameras I simply reset ISO per the number of >> multiple exposures - ie for 4 exposures, multiple ISO by 4 and reset ISO setting >> for that group of multiples. This can't be done on the *istD. RS> Sorry I missed the thrust of the question obviously. However on the rare RS> occasions that I've used multiple exposures I've always used manual exposure in RS> any case. I wouldn't have even guessed that exposure compensation may have been RS> automated. This degree of automation seems a bit pointless anyhow, surely it RS> can only work effectively if the subsequent exposures are fin the same light RS> and from the same POV? You learn something everyday I guess. RS> In what circumstances would you be likely to use the multiple exposure function RS> on the *ist D? RS> Rob Studdert RS> HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA RS> Tel +61-2-9554-4110 RS> UTC(GMT) +10 Hours RS> [EMAIL PROTECTED] RS> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ RS> Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Michigan PDML
No one could possibly be. Kenneth Waller wrote: I'm really not as grumpy as I look in Paul's photo.
Re: PAW: "Oh, Deer!"
We had a nice red-headed woodpecker visiting our bird feeder this weekend, but I couldn't get a shot of him, as he was too skittish. This morning I went outside to look for him, and found this character resting quietly on my lawn, within 15 feet of the rear deck: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2385562 I wanted to grab a shot before he ran away, and I was already late, so I used my Optio S. I hope he stays around long enough to try for a shot with my SuperProgram or *ist D. Dan
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Re: Multiple exposures with the *istD
Rob, in response to ...In what circumstances would you be likely to use the multiple exposure function on the *ist D? I've been shooting multiples on film where I do a sharp focus and then a soft focus, also leaves on flowing water and multiples as I zoom the lens, you know artsey fartsey stuff. -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Multiple exposures with the *istD On 24 May 2004 at 11:30, Kenneth Waller wrote: > Rob, > pg 84 step 3, in the manual, makes no mention of exposure compensation for > multiple exposures. In the MZ-S and the PZ1P, which also have multiple exposure > capabilities, there is no mention about exposure compensation for multiple > exposures either and if you simply shoot multiples in these film cameras you get > over exposed images. On those cameras I simply reset ISO per the number of > multiple exposures - ie for 4 exposures, multiple ISO by 4 and reset ISO setting > for that group of multiples. This can't be done on the *istD. Sorry I missed the thrust of the question obviously. However on the rare occasions that I've used multiple exposures I've always used manual exposure in any case. I wouldn't have even guessed that exposure compensation may have been automated. This degree of automation seems a bit pointless anyhow, surely it can only work effectively if the subsequent exposures are fin the same light and from the same POV? You learn something everyday I guess. In what circumstances would you be likely to use the multiple exposure function on the *ist D? Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: Multiple exposures with the *istD
Apparently, when you dial in the number of multiple exposures, the software compensates the actual exposure depending on the number dialed in. Ken Waller -Original Message- From: William Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Multiple exposures with the *istD I believe that the way the *ist D handles multiple exposures is entirely different from film. We're all discussing how it should be calculating 1/2 the exposure for the first shot and the other 1/2 the exposure for the second shot . . . . . . what if the *ist D is a far more simple beast? What if when you tell it you are doing a 2 shot multi-exposure, it takes the next 2 pictures at full exposure (unless told to do otherwise) and then simply merges the two together? This seems far more likely given the apparent ability for the *ist D to get the exposures right all the time. Just a thought, though experience tells me I am not always right, IL Bill On Monday, May 24, 2004, at 10:30 AM, Kenneth Waller wrote: > Rob, > pg 84 step 3, in the manual, makes no mention of exposure compensation > for multiple exposures. In the MZ-S and the PZ1P, which also have > multiple exposure capabilities, there is no mention about exposure > compensation for multiple exposures either and if you simply shoot > multiples in these film cameras you get over exposed images. On those > cameras I simply reset ISO per the number of multiple exposures - ie > for 4 exposures, multiple ISO by 4 and reset ISO setting for that > group of multiples. This can't be done on the *istD. > > -Original Message- > From: Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: May 23, 2004 6:42 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Multiple exposures with the *istD > > On 23 May 2004 at 17:32, Kenneth Waller wrote: > >> William, >> So apparently, the magic occurs when you set the multiple exposure >> number. >> Would have been nice if that was mentioned in the manual! > > Page 84, step 3 > > > Rob Studdert > HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA > Tel +61-2-9554-4110 > UTC(GMT) +10 Hours > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ > Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 > > > > > PeoplePC Online > A better way to Internet > http://www.peoplepc.com > PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: Multiple exposures with the *istD
On 24 May 2004 at 11:30, Kenneth Waller wrote: > Rob, > pg 84 step 3, in the manual, makes no mention of exposure compensation for > multiple exposures. In the MZ-S and the PZ1P, which also have multiple exposure > capabilities, there is no mention about exposure compensation for multiple > exposures either and if you simply shoot multiples in these film cameras you get > over exposed images. On those cameras I simply reset ISO per the number of > multiple exposures - ie for 4 exposures, multiple ISO by 4 and reset ISO setting > for that group of multiples. This can't be done on the *istD. Sorry I missed the thrust of the question obviously. However on the rare occasions that I've used multiple exposures I've always used manual exposure in any case. I wouldn't have even guessed that exposure compensation may have been automated. This degree of automation seems a bit pointless anyhow, surely it can only work effectively if the subsequent exposures are fin the same light and from the same POV? You learn something everyday I guess. In what circumstances would you be likely to use the multiple exposure function on the *ist D? Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: PAW Pelicans
Rob, nice capture. I especially like the pose and the harmony of the background colors and the colors of the birds. Minor nit - cutting off the tail of the foreground bird. Ken Waller -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: PAW Pelicans Just put up a shot as PAW taken last Saturday. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2384370&size=lg Comments and criticisms welcome. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: New Pentax DSLR's?
>Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 00:04:50 +0200 >From: "Dario Bonazza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: New Pentax DSLR's? > > Shawn wrote: > >>So it still might be in Pentax's interest to do everything they >>can to gain a foothold in those markets by releasing a high-end SLR. >> >Way too late for doing that. Any year between 1980 and 2000 could have >been a good year for launching a good high-end SLR, I don't think it is "too late". I think if they release a high end film SRL it will be a niche product (for minorities) and not a mass product. Its sales number won't be that much affected by rising DSLR sales. >supported by a strong >policy >(lens range, accessories, proper advertising, and so on) in restoring >Pentax >as leading camera manufacturer. They didn't do that when it made sense, >sure >they won't do now, when it no longer make sense. A high end film SLR as a mass product will certainly be (or: would have been) a flop. I do also regret that there never was a "true" LX successor. But then, the MZ-S does almost everything better than the LX (except motor-drive speed and interchangeable viewfinders) ... and how many people really bought a long-roll magazine for their LXs ?? best wishes, Alexander __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer
Re: Multiple exposures with the *istD
I believe that the way the *ist D handles multiple exposures is entirely different from film. We're all discussing how it should be calculating 1/2 the exposure for the first shot and the other 1/2 the exposure for the second shot . . . . . . what if the *ist D is a far more simple beast? What if when you tell it you are doing a 2 shot multi-exposure, it takes the next 2 pictures at full exposure (unless told to do otherwise) and then simply merges the two together? This seems far more likely given the apparent ability for the *ist D to get the exposures right all the time. Just a thought, though experience tells me I am not always right, IL Bill On Monday, May 24, 2004, at 10:30 AM, Kenneth Waller wrote: Rob, pg 84 step 3, in the manual, makes no mention of exposure compensation for multiple exposures. In the MZ-S and the PZ1P, which also have multiple exposure capabilities, there is no mention about exposure compensation for multiple exposures either and if you simply shoot multiples in these film cameras you get over exposed images. On those cameras I simply reset ISO per the number of multiple exposures - ie for 4 exposures, multiple ISO by 4 and reset ISO setting for that group of multiples. This can't be done on the *istD. -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: May 23, 2004 6:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Multiple exposures with the *istD On 23 May 2004 at 17:32, Kenneth Waller wrote: William, So apparently, the magic occurs when you set the multiple exposure number. Would have been nice if that was mentioned in the manual! Page 84, step 3 Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: Michigan PDML
I'm really not as grumpy as I look in Paul's photo. Ken Waller -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Michigan PDML Wooo Hooo! The Michigan PDML had a great outing today. We met at McDonald's and packed down a few egg mcmuffs, before descending on the Detroit zoo. On hand were Bill Sawyer, Mark Cassino, Ken Waller, yours truly, and my daughter, Ingrid Stenquist. Bill is a volunteer worker and zoo member (I always said that guy's an animal :-), so we had great guidance and found a lot of photo ops. Everyone shot Pentax of course and we'll post some pics soon. The only non-Pentax pic was the first shot of the day -- a shot of KW at Mickey D's captured with my trusty cell phone. Ken is here: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2383742 More soon. Paul PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: Multiple exposures with the *istD
Rob, pg 84 step 3, in the manual, makes no mention of exposure compensation for multiple exposures. In the MZ-S and the PZ1P, which also have multiple exposure capabilities, there is no mention about exposure compensation for multiple exposures either and if you simply shoot multiples in these film cameras you get over exposed images. On those cameras I simply reset ISO per the number of multiple exposures - ie for 4 exposures, multiple ISO by 4 and reset ISO setting for that group of multiples. This can't be done on the *istD. -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: May 23, 2004 6:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Multiple exposures with the *istD On 23 May 2004 at 17:32, Kenneth Waller wrote: > William, > So apparently, the magic occurs when you set the multiple exposure number. > Would have been nice if that was mentioned in the manual! Page 84, step 3 Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: M 28/2 (was: R: New Pentax DSLR's)
Gianfranco Irlanda wrote: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On a totally unrelated note, I managed to find a 28/2.0 M at my local camera repair place for $150. Cosmetically, it looks like it has been sandblasted, but the glass is immaculate. Given that KEH normally lists these lenses at more than twice that price, I snapped it up immediately. Anybody want to praise or damn this lens? I'd have bought one years ago if I'd known enough, simply because I find a fast wide to be very useful. That's a lucky find, indeed! I've been using mine for two years now and I can state that it is a WONDERFUL lens under every respect. Ciao, Gianfranco And on another totally unrelated note I found a Ricoh 50/2.0 for $10. But I don't need or want it. :-) /Henri
Re: Extended warrenty on Optio p&s digitals
On 23/5/04, STAN, discombobulated, offered: >When I went onto eBay a few minutes ago, (to check on the >Optio 33LF that Cotty is going to buy for surreptitious pics >of ladies on the street) LOL. Prices here range from £147 through £229 new. I'm not sure I'm going to buy - maybe. I will have to see one in the flesh first! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: Digital Street Shooting + Question
>> As Eleanor suggested, the Optio 33 LF does indeed have a flip out LCD. >> It's slightly smaller than the G2, and weighs less, but it's nearly 1MP >> down. Does anyone have an Optio 33LF and would like to share their >> opinions if this camera? > >The 330, also 3Mp, has a flip out but it only flips so that you can take >pictures of yourself. For the truly narcissistic, there is a button to >reverse the image when you do this. > >I suspect that there are no Pentax digitals with the sort of screen you >are looking for. Thanks Mike. The 33LF screen orientates just like the G2 screen, so the 33LF would be a good choice. I'm just concerned about the size and weight - it certainly weighs considerably less than a G2 but isn't as small as I thought it might be Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: Trip report
On Mon, 24 May 2004, Rob Studdert wrote: > On 23 May 2004 at 22:22, Christian Skofteland wrote: > > Funny how you didn't seem too impressed by the *ist D when I was there in > > October but now you seem very enthusiastic about it! > > Still not that pleased with the camera, more so the medium. It's doing the job > however I am still shitty about the AOV limitations. I only had enough > room for my 20/2.8 in my travel pack so I was somewhat limited in quite a few > instances, hopefully the multi-image shots will stitch OK. It should be pretty easy to make room by removing your longest lens. For instance if you used to carry something like: 28, 50, 85, 135, 200 now you can carry something like 20, 28, 50, 85, 135 I don't like that the *ist D forced me to rethink some of my lens collection because of the new AOV, but it hasn't changed too much what I carry. The people who get hurt the most are those who liked to carry two lenses, 28-70 and 70-200. With the *ist D you get 16-45 but nothing to fill in the long end. Hopefully a DA 40-160 or 35-135 or something like that is coming. alex
Re: Shot RAW but out of latitude
No, it's not at all like curves, or even related to curves, nor is it a functional equivalent. Believe it or not, it's more closely related to the healing brush, at least wrt the math behind it. Shel Belinkoff > [Original Message] > From: Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Rob, > > > > Which version of PS are you using. The latest version, CS, has a neat tool that > > might be helpful. It's the Shadows/Highlights tool. > > Hi Shel, > > I'm still using PS7, CS is a little far off on the horizon for me at the > moment. Isn't Shadows/Highlights tool functionally equivalent to applying an s- > shaped curve? But in any case the RAW conversion left the highlights completely > devoid of data and surrounded by a distorted yellow corona.
Re: Shot RAW but out of latitude
On May 24, 2004, at 9:50 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: I'm still using PS7, CS is a little far off on the horizon for me at the moment. Isn't Shadows/Highlights tool functionally equivalent to applying an s- shaped curve? Mark Cassino and I were discussing the Shadows/Highlights tool vs Curves just yesterday. We have both found that we can't duplicate the results we get from Shadows/Highlights with Curves. I originally suspected that it was just a shortcut to an s-curve as you noted, but it doesn't appear to be. If it is just a shortcut, it functions at a level that's better than anything I'm capable of. It is very useful. Paul
Re: K2 Problem
Thanks for the info Mark. I'll take a look and see if I can't get it figured out. Thanks again, William in Utah. - Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 4:55 PM Subject: Re: K2 Problem > "William Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >I have a K2 that has developed a problem with the shutter. At slow speeds > >(approx 1/30 and below) about every third or fourth shot the speed will be > >off, it sounds like the camera is firing at sync speed (1/125). Anyone have > >any handy hints or experienced the same? Right now a CLA is not in my > >budget and if it's possible there is a fairly simple DIY solution that would > >be great. > > Could be something as simple as a bad (corroded) battery connection. > When you have no power (dead batteries or some other reason) the shutter > defaults to sync speed. If it really is going to sync speed when you get > your problem the most likely cause is a temporary interruption of power > somewhere, so a bad power switch would be the next candidate. > > Download the service information from my web site at > http://www.robertstech.com/pentax.htm and see what you can find. > > -- > Mark Roberts > Photography and writing > www.robertstech.com > >
Re: Shot RAW but out of latitude
On 24 May 2004 at 6:41, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Rob, > > Which version of PS are you using. The latest version, CS, has a neat tool that > might be helpful. It's the Shadows/Highlights tool. Hi Shel, I'm still using PS7, CS is a little far off on the horizon for me at the moment. Isn't Shadows/Highlights tool functionally equivalent to applying an s- shaped curve? But in any case the RAW conversion left the highlights completely devoid of data and surrounded by a distorted yellow corona. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Can anyone identify these?
- Original Message - From: "TMP" Subject: RE: Can anyone identify these? > > Just got this from the seller, what do you guys think? Sounds like he is selling a few pieces os Sigma equipment. William Robb > > "I will Answer your Questions as best as I Can, as I do not know alot about > lenses .I will tell you what is written on them and where it is on them They > are clean and Fungus free from what I can see they have there covers and > padded bag,. > the biggest lense has SIGMA written on it on side with multi-coated f = > 75~300mm nothing written on lense,. > The smaller lense has outside of lense multi-coated SIGMA super wide II , > 1:2.8 f ~24mm. > And other which looks like smaller lense is like one end attaches to camera > and then lense attaches on to it has witten on side 2x Kax Macro teleplus > mc7 then distances starting from 1:1 going up to 0.45m/50mm in green then > white below 1:1.5 00/ 50mm that is all i can tell you I think they are > Pentax lenses i have to brochures with Pentax accessories in it that came > with lenses." > > tan. > > -Original Message- > From: TMP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, 22 May 2004 8:14 PM > To: Net [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Can anyone identify these? > > > > Could be an absolute bargain! > > http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4688&item=38138826 > 17&tc=photo > > tan. > > >
Re: Shot RAW but out of latitude
Rob, Which version of PS are you using. The latest version, CS, has a neat tool that might be helpful. It's the Shadows/Highlights tool. Check put Katrin's site for openers: http://www.digitalretouch.org/ Shel Belinkoff > I have been using a dedicated application HDRShop to perform this function and > it requires absolute registration or else it turns into a nightmare. The > slightest movement in branches on a windy day causes coloured spuriae to be > rendered in the difference areas, not nice. I hadn't considered Photoshop as > the stand alone application used some pretty heavy manipulation which is well > beyond layer additions and simple masking. Do you know of any on-line tutorials > etc?
Re: Shot RAW but out of latitude
On 24 May 2004 at 6:40, Paul Stenquist wrote: > I would just clone some of the other fur to cover the highlight. It > appears to be a bald spot or some other abnormality. Isn't it close to > pure white and lacking in detail to the naked eye? It was literally where the sun was reflecting directly off the white fur, I'll have a go at cloning however there is such detail it will be difficult to "get away with". On 24 May 2004 at 6:42, Paul Stenquist wrote: > You can definitely pull down a highlight in the PS CS RAW converter. It > offers far more flexibility that Photo Lab. We will see, the original RAW file has been forwarded to an undisclosed (but very enthusiastic :-) list member for PS CS RAW decoding, I'm looking forward to seeing what it can do. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: PAW Pelicans
On 24 May 2004 at 4:02, Keith Whaley wrote: > Very good! It occurs to me that I'd have an easier time climbing over > shore rocks with feet like that! > Anyhow, it's well composed and executed. The "cloudy" WB worked out fine. Thanks Keith, it's nice when "it all comes together" in a photo > Do tell me what the equivalent f/l that 125mm lens gives on the *ist-D. If I was Bill W I'd probably tell you it's a 125mm lens regardless and suggest that you get used to the format, if I was JCO I'd likely quote you a formula so you could inter-relate its FL to all your favourite formats. But me, I'd say it's roughly equivalent to the AOV you'd see with a 190mm lens in traditional full frame 35mm format :-) Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Shot RAW but out of latitude
On 24 May 2004 at 8:46, Steve Desjardins wrote: > How about some auto bracketing and combining the two shots in photoshop? > This is a way to extend the latitude of the shot as long as there is > minimal movement. I did this once with a landscape just to see if I > could, and it worked fine, although I just used exposure comp for the > second shot. The autobracket should be fast enough to get an acceptable > match even with an animal subject. I have been using a dedicated application HDRShop to perform this function and it requires absolute registration or else it turns into a nightmare. The slightest movement in branches on a windy day causes coloured spuriae to be rendered in the difference areas, not nice. I hadn't considered Photoshop as the stand alone application used some pretty heavy manipulation which is well beyond layer additions and simple masking. Do you know of any on-line tutorials etc? Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
RE: Trip report
> Still not that pleased with the camera, more so the medium. > It's doing the job however I am still shitty about the AOV > limitations. I know what you mean, Rob. This issue hasn't been as much of a problem for me yet as I thought it would be, but I've only had the istD for a couple of weeks. Right now I've got my sights on the Sigma EX 12-24/4.5-5.6, unless something better comes along by the time I get around to buying it. > What I'm enjoying is > the relative low noise in high ISO images, this is something > I've not had before and it's let me shoot a whole lot more > macro under available light which is by far my preference. Tell me about it! I took a bunch of shots yesterday morning at ISO 1600 by accident, and I couldn't believe how crisp they were. The backgrounds were a little noisy but the foregrounds were nice and sharp.
Re: PAWs
Nice shots! I'm going to try and get some at our local minor league team (Salem Avalanche) IF I ever get down there (about 1 hour away). Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Shot RAW but out of latitude
How about some auto bracketing and combining the two shots in photoshop? This is a way to extend the latitude of the shot as long as there is minimal movement. I did this once with a landscape just to see if I could, and it worked fine, although I just used exposure comp for the second shot. The autobracket should be fast enough to get an acceptable match even with an animal subject.
Re: Digitize
Not to mention horrible ties! Peter J. Alling wrote: Geez, first horrible puns, now horrible visual puns. Shel Belinkoff wrote: Just couldn't help myself ... http://home.earthlink.net/~sbelinkoff/digitize.jpg Shel Belinkoff
Re: Truncated links (was Re: eBay Listings)
Anders Hultman wrote: > > J. C. O'Connell: > > >there is a web site called tinyurl.com that converts long links > >into little ones, havent tried it but I have seen and used the > >tinyurl redirection links. > > Competitor "shorl.com" makes even shorter links. > It's also run by a couple of friends of mine :-) > > anders > - > http://anders.hultman.nu/ > med dagens bild och allt! If you want to point to an ebay listing you could just enter the title line in quotes and one could cut and paste into search box OR the item number A nice idea even if you supply the whole location link as well and remember, there are actually some people on some servers (we won't say what server hehe) who can't hot link anything and have to cut and paste anyway. annsan
Re: 77 limited or 85* for portraits/canndids
Thanks Derby, always nice to hear another opinion on this. I have a feeling that I will one day have to buy both! Antonio On 24 May 2004, at 13:02, Derby Chang wrote: hi Antonio I haven't read the rest of the 34 digests I have in my inbox, so someone may have already repeated what I've said I have both the 85 and the 77. Without a doubt from the time I only had the former, the 85 was my flat out fave lens. Beautifully creamy, fast to manual or auto focus, and rugged to boot. But I have to admit, since I bought the 77 for my sister's wedding, I haven't used the lovely 85, really only because of the weight. For sharpness, the 77 probably has a slight edge, but that really doesn't count for much with portraiture. Both are pretty gorgeous for bokeh. I think the 85 is a little more impressive with sitters, but on the other hand, maybe also a bit more intimidating. The extra speed of the 85 is not a big issue - in low light, it doesn't make much of a difference, both are pretty fast. But if you asked me, which one I would buy first, probably the 77 (sorry, I still love you 85). D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~derbyc http://derby.agreatserver.com/ (galleries) http://derby.150m.com/ (blog)
What goes around.... PDML subjects on other lists
You guys may or may not find this hard to believe - but there have to be more people than me who are reading both the CGP (pro games players, aka, scrabble list) and PDML... First one wise as Scrabbler starts talking about "baked" ladies and we learned that it is short for "bare naked ladies" (popularized before or after the singing group??) which turned into puns about half-baked women Next day the GFM gang is going on about Half baked pizza.. After the , dare I even type the letters, Windoze M E 2578 messages (or thereabouts) I see this "I can't run Maven in Windows ME. I have a good, running version, and get errors (wrong assumptions) from the application followed by it closing. Has anyone experienced this, and if so, could you share the cure, if any?" arrrggh! annsan
RE: New Pentax DSLR's
The Baby D could be really good. From all I have read, the D70 has some improvements over the D100. Prediction (no insider info here, just speculation): Same as *ist D: Imaging electronics and sensor, maybe even a new sensor although still 6 MP same AF (after all, the low end film *ist has the same AF) NO mechanical Aperture coupler (this is dead) Different: Mirror instead of prism, all Polycarb body, No steel chassis - build quality similar to ZX-60 or film *ist. As a matter of fact, the film *ist has a large LCD panel on the back for control info and it actually configured like a DSLR. It's a bit small, however, and I'n not sure even Pentax could (or would want to) cram everything into there. So it will probably be a lot like the *ist D except for the build quality, which is probably not all that important since this camera is not really gonna last 20 years anyway. The viewfinder will be the most annoying difference. It's not like the *ist D has all this weather sealing either. However, I do wonder about the shutter. Since folks can "click at will" with a digital camera, do you think we are more likely to shutter life problems? After all, some folks are easily doing 5000 shots /year.
Re: PAW Pelicans
Very good! It occurs to me that I'd have an easier time climbing over shore rocks with feet like that! Anyhow, it's well composed and executed. The "cloudy" WB worked out fine. Do tell me what the equivalent f/l that 125mm lens gives on the *ist-D. Good choice, regardless! keith whaley Rob Studdert wrote: Just put up a shot as PAW taken last Saturday. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2384370&size=lg Comments and criticisms welcome. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: 77 limited or 85* for portraits/canndids
hi Antonio I haven't read the rest of the 34 digests I have in my inbox, so someone may have already repeated what I've said I have both the 85 and the 77. Without a doubt from the time I only had the former, the 85 was my flat out fave lens. Beautifully creamy, fast to manual or auto focus, and rugged to boot. But I have to admit, since I bought the 77 for my sister's wedding, I haven't used the lovely 85, really only because of the weight. For sharpness, the 77 probably has a slight edge, but that really doesn't count for much with portraiture. Both are pretty gorgeous for bokeh. I think the 85 is a little more impressive with sitters, but on the other hand, maybe also a bit more intimidating. The extra speed of the 85 is not a big issue - in low light, it doesn't make much of a difference, both are pretty fast. But if you asked me, which one I would buy first, probably the 77 (sorry, I still love you 85). D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~derbyc http://derby.agreatserver.com/ (galleries) http://derby.150m.com/ (blog)
Re: Shot RAW but out of latitude
You can definitely pull down a highlight in the PS CS RAW converter. It offers far more flexibility that Photo Lab. On May 24, 2004, at 5:43 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 24 May 2004 at 10:23, Jan van Wijk wrote: Dod you adjust exposure in the Photoshop-CS RAW converter, or did you use another one ? Hi Jan, I'm still running PS7 (the recent CS discussions aren't too encouraging) in combination with the latest incarnation of Photo Lab. I optimised the histogram inside P-lab so I didn't need to apply any level correction in PS. I set contrast to minimum and adjusted the sensitivity in P-lab to ensure that the data wasn't truncated at either end of the histogram. Do you thing that the PS CS convertor would do a better conversion? Hard to say, perhaps under-expose a bit and use a (shielded) flash to get a highlight in the eyes maybe ... But using a small flash would probably not get the nice eye details that you can see now ... I figured as much, I hope the next Pentax DSLR incarnation has wider effective latitude. Thanks for taking the time to comment. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
