Re: GFM weather
I disagree. Neither is fun, but watching the sun rise is usually cold. In the mountains, I often get up for sunrise, take some pictures and then go back to sleep. The best compromise is to arrange your tent so you can take the appropriate sunrise shot without getting out of the sleeping bag. Scott On Sat, 2004-05-29 at 09:28, Bill Owens wrote: > > > > >City folk! Sunrise down here was 6:11am today. It will be a few minutes > > >earlier > > >in a week, plus it is even earlier (probably about 5:30am) on top the > > >mountain > > >(horizon is lower). So you better start practicing getting up at 4:30am. > > > > I just remembered why I like shooting people so much... > > Sleeping is much more fun than watching a sunrise. > > Bill >
Re: GFM coming together
On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 00:04:27 +0100, Cotty wrote: > On 31/5/04, MARATHON MAN, discombobulated, offered: > >The picnic area (where we camp) is nowhere near the top of Grandfather. > >Not even remotely scary to drive there. > > You haven't seen me behind the wheel On the wrong side of the bleedin' road, no less. :-) TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
Re: Platinum Prints
I'm going to Sante Fe next month. I know there's at least one gallery there that's of interest. Also just found some local folks who are experienced in the technique, and will be contacting them this week. One guy specializes in making negs from digital images to then be printed in various ways. Things are coming together ;-)) Thanks, Bill Shel Belinkoff > I recall the Chicago Albumen works made platinum paper, as well as > palladium paper. > This was many years ago. > They don't list it anymore, only P.O.P. materials, but they may be a > place to ask. > > I also saw, some years ago at a gallery in Santa Fe, work by a local > photographer who worked with Platinum. > I am sorry, I don't recall his name.
Re: *istD in the (battle)field
On Sun, 30 May 2004 07:41:48 +1000, Kevin Waterson wrote: > The shutter was opened ( it is dark and nothing is exposed) > The mortar shell dropped in. (still in darkness) > Mortar goes BOOM ( the flame appears ) > I release the shutter ( flash fires with rear curtain sync and we see the troops ) Cool technique, Kevin. I wouldn't have thought of that in a month of cogitating on the problem. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
Re: Canadian Bacon @ GFM-was: Speaking of music....GFM
- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: Canadian Bacon @ GFM-was: Speaking of musicGFM > Good. > > Maybe we can somehow figure a way to watch the hockey game on Friday night. > If he's a true Canadian, he'll watch hockey. They play hockey on Friday nights? William Robb
Re: Platinum Prints
I recall the Chicago Albumen works made platinum paper, as well as palladium paper. This was many years ago. They don't list it anymore, only P.O.P. materials, but they may be a place to ask. I also saw, some years ago at a gallery in Santa Fe, work by a local photographer who worked with Platinum. I am sorry, I don't recall his name. William Robb - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" < Subject: Platinum Prints > I'd like to explore making platinum prints. Looking about the net some > information was found. Couldn't find anything about pre-coated paper for > making platinum prints. Is there such a thing? Where might it be found? >
Re: GFM weather
On Sat, 29 May 2004 12:28:30 -0400, Bill Owens wrote: > Sleeping is much more fun than watching a sunrise. The only good reason to see the sun rise is that you've been up all night partying. :-) TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
Re: Platinum Prints
Thanks for the pointer, Otis. Shel Belinkoff > [Original Message] > From: Otis Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 5/31/2004 9:38:30 PM > Subject: Re: Platinum Prints > > Commercial platinum paper background at this site may be on interest to > you -- if you haven't already read it, > > http://photography.about.com/library/glossary/bldef_platinum.htm > > Unfortunately, I didn't see any listing of current sources for > commercial materials. > > Otis Wright > > Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > >I'd like to explore making platinum prints. Looking about the net some > >information was found. Couldn't find anything about pre-coated paper for > >making platinum prints. Is there such a thing? Where might it be found? > > > > > >Shel Belinkoff > > > > > > > > > >
Re: Platinum Prints
Commercial platinum paper background at this site may be on interest to you -- if you haven't already read it, http://photography.about.com/library/glossary/bldef_platinum.htm Unfortunately, I didn't see any listing of current sources for commercial materials. Otis Wright Shel Belinkoff wrote: I'd like to explore making platinum prints. Looking about the net some information was found. Couldn't find anything about pre-coated paper for making platinum prints. Is there such a thing? Where might it be found? Shel Belinkoff
Platinum Prints
I'd like to explore making platinum prints. Looking about the net some information was found. Couldn't find anything about pre-coated paper for making platinum prints. Is there such a thing? Where might it be found? Shel Belinkoff
Re: Canadian Bacon @ GFM-was: Speaking of music....GFM
Good. Maybe we can somehow figure a way to watch the hockey game on Friday night. If he's a true Canadian, he'll watch hockey. cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] No, there will be another Canadian in attendance. He's a lurker whom you'll meet probably Thursday evening. Bill _ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
RE: Newbie to the list
Jon, Let me add my welcome to the many that have already come your way. Sorry it's taken a couple of days, but I'm way behind on the list, and it's only going to get worse this week (going down to your neck of the woods with the other PDML miscreants who are doing the GFM thing). I don't know about the Pentax zoom you mention, but I have the big hunk o' glass that is the Viv S1 24-48, and despite it's size and weight, I love mine. Those things go for around $300 at KEH, so they're worth a bit. Can you get yours repaired? I know parts may be a pig, but it's probably worth looking into, even if you want to sell it. I know it doesn't do macro, and of course there's the size, but it's sharp and quite distortion free, even at 24mm. I think it's a great lens. But, go ahead and get the Pentax you want. It's a different lens for a different job. I just wonder if you should reconsider parting with the Vivitar. Hope you enjoy your stay on the list. You will never leave, you know that. You're in for life now, so you might as well enjoy the ride! Oh yeah, don't believe anything I say. cheers, frank, Toronto, Canada "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Jon M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Newbie to the list Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 10:00:18 -0700 (PDT) Hey y'all! Just thought I'd introduce myself. My name is Jon, and I'm a Pentax enthusiast from North Carolina, USA. I got started with a K1000, and have recently aquired (super cheap) an A3000. My current selection of glass is as follows: SMC Pentax-A 50mm 1:2 Sears 80mm-200mm 1:4 Vivitar 24mm-48mm 1:3.8 (rarely used, wobbles and is clunky-huge!) I've been considering the SMC Pentax-A 35mm-70mm 3.5-4.5 macro as my next lens purchase, partly to replace the Vivitar lens. Any thoughts about this lens, or suggestions for something better? What I want is something that'll do for most purposes, so I'm not constantly switching from one lens to another. As for what type of photography I do, I take pictures of whatever catches my eye, be it mountains, the sea, a road, or a critter of some variety. I don't have much online, tho I do have this shot of the Blue Ridge Parkway: http://jon.beigetower.org/photo.html Happy Pentax-ing. :) -Jon. __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ _ http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Update from the GFM dropout
Arrived safely in Jamaica yesterday evening with all family members & luggage safely accounted for. Several of you were kind enough to express hopes that my father's surgery would go well -- he is in very good spirits, his doctor is pleased with him, and he is in the process of learning to use his new hip. Perhaps when he is back on his feet he'll be able to submit to the PUG again. We appreciate your good wishes. I hope to keep up with the list (despite having to borrow a computer and use dialup) as I don't want to miss anything that's posted about the weekend! To those of you who are going to the mountain, travel safely and have a great time! ERN
Re: GFM coming together
Mark, Loads o' CD's will be brought for the bus trip down to Pittsburg, so no worries there. Hope you like jazz . See ya Wed! -frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Be sure to bring some CDs (music) for the trip! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com _ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: Fully manual SLR
Ryan, Okay, so my life ~is~ dull after all. At least it's not sedentary. No, when I took the photo, is was hand holding my little Minolta HiMatic F. Didn't want to risk an expensive camera zipping through traffic with one hand on the bar. Just held the camera and snapped with one hand. I was holding the camera around waist high, not looking through the viewfinder. Took several, but that was the best one. Nope, no night shots, but that's a great idea!! I got out of the habit of bringing that cam in my courier bag - gotta get back into the habit of bringing it with me at all times. Geez, Ryan, you really should get out there and do some interesting, off-the-wall stuff, eh? cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "Ryan Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Fully manual SLR Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 11:34:49 +1000 My life including mountain-biking, 60+kmh downhill inline skating, occasionally skating down staircases too, hockey, outdoor rockclimbing, abseiling down waterfalls, and more recently added one off, yacht racing (thanks to a friend who was short of a man weekends ago), tempered with big stressful essays like Buddhist art its political implications, occasionally mucking about on my jazzy little thinline electric guitar and occasionally taking pictures of weird people jumping out of trees, just felt like a poor effort when I heard that somone I knew personally, was soaring round the Swiss alps in a flimsy parachute like thingo (at first I thought it was the one in the giant sock, but can't think of what that's called..) taking pictures at fridge temperature more than 4000 metres high. (Not to mention someone else I know cycled down a 4 storey escalator and while I couldn't keep my eyes in my head, my camera was being cold and lonely at home!) -i think i need some fresh air- (morale isn't improved knowing most of you smirkers are going to have lots of it come GFM..) *green with envy, or assignment fever* About Laurent's winged photographic escapades, I'll get the details as soon as he mails me back (which I hope won't be too long- if I were doing what he's doing, my computer will be the neglected device of choice..) Cheers, Ryan PS. Frank, was that the one taken mounted on the bike? Very nice- sure does capture the feeling cycling between traffic! Got any night ones? - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 8:32 AM Subject: Re: Fully manual SLR > Hmph: > > My life's anything but dull: > > http://urbancaravan.com/images/bike_couriers_life.JPG > > But seriously, Ryan, that's one cool photo! Get details, and let us know! > > cheers, > frank > > "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist > fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer > > > > > >From: "Ryan Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: Fully manual SLR > >Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 01:19:40 +1000 > > > >A friend of mine, Laurent, who just returned to Lausanne just emailed me > >this pic and if I ever get the chance, I'll convince him to get me up there > >with him. Seems a bit high? It was more than 4000 metres in his paraglider. > >Not quite sure what camera it was or how cold it was, but I've asked him > >for > >details. I suspect it was one of those point and click digitals. Still. > >Very > >impressed. Is your life looking dull and uninspired? :) > > > >http://home.iprimus.com.au/heygoose/LaurentBusenhart0108-59.jpg > > > >Regards, > >Ryan > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "frank theriault" > > > Subject: Re: Fully manual SLR > > > > > > >I was testing them under about the most extreme conditions > > > possible. > > > > >It was something like -43ºC, > > > > > > _ > MSN Premium includes powerful parental controls and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > > _ STOP MORE SPAM with the MSN Premium and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: GFM coming together
"Cesar Matamoros II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Since others brought it up... > >Look at >http://groups.msn.com/CesarsPhotography/gfm.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=90 >9 for a glimpse of the photographic gear I am planning on bringing. Yes, I was going to mention your name when people started making fun of the amount if gear I was bringing. Fortunately, I was in a generous and charitable mood :-P >The light blue has my M42 bodies, the blue bag next to it has the >corresponding lenses along with somw K-mount lenses. The first black bag >contains batteries and other odds and ends along with K-mount bodies. The >gray back at the end contains my 645n gear. The remaining two black bags >contain Pentax flashes and batteries and the fanny pack with assorted >lenses. > >The green bag contains my five LXen and accessories... > >How do you think I keep my Sherpa status? :-) Here's my kit before: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/packing.jpg And after http://www.robertstech.com/temp/packed.jpg Two of the bags in the "packed" shot are empty: I'll distribute gear into them as needs dictate during the weekend. The backpack contains all the 35mm (film and digital) gear. One of the other bags has the 645 kit. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: GFM coming together
I'll be doing about the same, except the flight from California doesn't take nearly as long - will make it to the mountain Thursday evening. See you all there! -- Best regards, Bruce Monday, May 31, 2004, 8:54:47 AM, you wrote: >>Woo Hoo!! >> >>Just got back from another weekend with the kids (two in a row, 'cause the >>ex had to be away on business this weekend). It's 1:00 am, and I'm on list >>for the first time in a couple of days, just for a few minutes. >> >>Work tomorrow. Pack tomorrow night. Work Tuesday, and catch the midnight >>bus to Pittsburg, to meet the sore and tired Mr. Roberts. >> >>Then, we're on our way! >> >>can't wait, >>frank C> I have to work Tuesday, then I'm off Weds, packing, then flying Thursday. C> See you on the mountain on Friday late afternoon Frank. C> Cheers, C> Cotty C> ___/\__ C> || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche C> ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps C> _
Re: GFM coming together
"frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Geez, Mark!! >You're lucky I travel real light! >Three tiny (Leica CL, MX, one gigantic LX) bodies, maybe 4 or 5 modest >lenses, and that's about it. Oh, I guess a monopod and a flash... >Biggest thing I'm bringing is my sleeping bag. >I'm guessing the back seat will be folded down, eh? Oh yeah. That car will hold a ton of stuff. No worries. :) >BTW I got my bus tickets today. Yup, it's coming together. Be sure to bring some CDs (music) for the trip! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Fully manual SLR
If that is a point and click digital I an very impressed. Ryan wrote: A friend of mine, Laurent, who just returned to Lausanne just emailed me this pic and if I ever get the chance, I'll convince him to get me up there with him. Seems a bit high? It was more than 4000 metres in his paraglider. Not quite sure what camera it was or how cold it was, but I've asked him for details. I suspect it was one of those point and click digitals. Still. Very impressed. Is your life looking dull and uninspired? :) http://home.iprimus.com.au/heygoose/LaurentBusenhart0108-59.jpg Butch Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. Hermann Hesse (Demian)
Re: PAW - Green Heron
Really nice shot - the heron certainly looks pleased with him/herself! I'm always envious of people who can take good bird photos. I'm definitely going to have to start saving for some decent long glass. Brian + Brian Walters Australian Plants Societies http://farrer.csu.edu.au/ASGAP/ On Mon, 31 May 2004 16:03 , 'Christian Skofteland' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: >Yes, it's another bird > >http://home.mindspring.com/~c_skofteland/id19.html > >shot with the D, Sigma AF 300mm F4 APO Macro and Sigma EX 1.4x TC mounted on >a tripod. ISO 200, F5.6 @1/160. Shot RAW and converted to TIFF with Pentax >PhotoLab. Slight crop and sharpening in PS 7.0. > >Christian Skofteland >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Msg sent via Spymac Mail - http://www.spymac.com
Re: GFM coming together
On 31/5/04, MARATHON MAN, discombobulated, offered: >>The thing is, we have a local mountain, Mt. Diablo, elevation 3,850 feet >>above sea level, and Grandfather mountain is higher than that. There are >hairpin >>turns and drop offs on Mt. Diablo, and I wouldn't drive to the top. > >The picnic area (where we camp) is nowhere near the top of Grandfather. >Not even remotely scary to drive there. You haven't seen me behind the wheel Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: Street Portraiture
Paul, By your definition, Karsh would've been a journalist! I think I side with Shel on this one. To me, a portrait captures the essence of the subject. A glamour shot is the creation, an attempt to capture the subject in their "best light" (no pun intended), or if that's not possible, to manipulate the image after the fact in an attempt to do so. But, having looked at your PAW (I was away on the weekend, and am just playing catch-up now), it's a lovely photo (or should I say glamour portrait? ) of a lovely young looking lady (who I suspect may not be so young looking in real life ). Great work! cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Street Portraiture Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 11:50:42 -0400 On May 29, 2004, at 11:43 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I think we'll just have to disagree on the merits of the final result with me giving strong praise for your Photoshop skills. Shel Belinkoff Thanks Shel. I'll take that. All we really disagree about is the definition of the word "portrait." To me, it can mean any number of things, but most often it's a creation. A photo that tries to capture the essence of a person is journalism in my book. But, hey, I'm an ad guy . Paul _ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: PAW - Green Heron
I'm about to write "I'm outta here" and un subscribe to the list for a week agonizing over prints to bring , not quite packed, dirty dishes in sink and gotta watch WIlly Nelson at 9 pm... But I'm glad I caught this one Ya nailed it! It looks to me like a bittern, Chris, Bring him to GFM (the bird, of course, not the picture ) :) ann ducks or maybe quacks (if anyone replies to this CC me please so I'll get it. thanks) Christian Skofteland wrote: > > Yes, it's another bird > > http://home.mindspring.com/~c_skofteland/id19.html > > The details: Two weeks ago, I decided to quit my job and take a week off > before the new one starts (my wife says I change job more often than I > change underwear...). The first day off (Monday) I decided to wander around > the lake and photograph the wildlife. What a day! Two kingfishers were > buzzing around catching fish. A sandpiper-like bird was running around a > mud flat, a great blue heron stopped in for some fishing. And about four or > five green herons joined the fray along with wood ducks, mallards, tons of > other birds and the ubiquitous Canada geese. Sadly, all were way out of > range of my 300mm w/1.4x TC (except the geese and mallards, but I'm sick of > them). I have about 90 pictures with 95% showing little dots that are > birds... I thought I could crop them but the detail was lost. However, the > little guy in this week's PAW landed close enough to get some good shots. > > shot with the D, Sigma AF 300mm F4 APO Macro and Sigma EX 1.4x TC mounted on > a tripod. ISO 200, F5.6 @1/160. Shot RAW and converted to TIFF with Pentax > PhotoLab. Slight crop and sharpening in PS 7.0. > > Christian Skofteland > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: the pile
On 31/5/04, MIKE UP NORTH, discombobulated, offered: >> Teg-knots > >Is that posh southern talk for tagnuts? Otherwise known as winnits, >'cos they winnit wipe off? > >Dingleberries (of the functional kind) are only possessed by ladies. > >m LOL, is tnat how you spell it. Too many Aga-louts down here ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: PAW - Green Heron
>http://home.mindspring.com/~c_skofteland/id19.html STUNNING. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: Fully manual SLR
I note from the manual that the operating range of the MZ-S is from -10°C to 50°C (14°F to 122°F), and it offers the caution that you should put the camera in a plastic bag or wrap when moving from very warm to very cold areas, to avoid condensation droplets getting into the camera. John Coyle Praxis Data Solutions (www.epraxisdata.com) Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - I have not found any specification for the MZ-S but I wouldn't consider it > anyway. > Sven >
Re: GFM coming together
>Starting to get packed... >http://www.robertstech.com/temp/packing.jpg > >-- >Mark Roberts Does that carpet have to come ? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
RE: Canadian Bacon @ GFM-was: Speaking of music....GFM
Like I said a coupla weeks ago, Loads 'o Jazz coming down from Canada. Ranging mostly from the mid-50's to current, mostly if not all acoustic; all great. I'm purposely bringing lots of jazz interpretations of The Standards - for the "old farts" . I lent all my Grl Punk (Sleater-Kinney, le Tigre, Bikini Kill, Hole) to my 15 year old daughter (the one whose pic no one here ever sees, 'cause she runs when she sees the cameras), so I won't inflict any of that "music" on you guys . Mentioning Canada as I just did: am I the sole representative of our fair land at GFM? I believe I am! What a responsibility! cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "PDML" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Speaking of musicGFM Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 11:11:47 -0400 I'll be bringing a few CD's for us old farts. Kingston Trio and Peter, Paul and Mary amongst others. Bill _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN Premium http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
RE: GFM coming together
Since others brought it up... Look at http://groups.msn.com/CesarsPhotography/gfm.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=90 9 for a glimpse of the photographic gear I am planning on bringing. The light blue has my M42 bodies, the blue bag next to it has the corresponding lenses along with somw K-mount lenses. The first black bag contains batteries and other odds and ends along with K-mount bodies. The gray back at the end contains my 645n gear. The remaining two black bags contain Pentax flashes and batteries and the fanny pack with assorted lenses. The green bag contains my five LXen and accessories... How do you think I keep my Sherpa status? :-) César Panama City, Florida -Original Message- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 5:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GFM coming together Geez, Mark!! You're lucky I travel real light! Three tiny (Leica CL, MX, one gigantic LX) bodies, maybe 4 or 5 modest lenses, and that's about it. Oh, I guess a monopod and a flash... Biggest thing I'm bringing is my sleeping bag. I'm guessing the back seat will be folded down, eh? BTW I got my bus tickets today. Yup, it's coming together. cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer >From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: GFM coming together >Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 15:50:35 -0400 > >Starting to get packed... >http://www.robertstech.com/temp/packing.jpg > >-- >Mark Roberts >Photography and writing >www.robertstech.com > _ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=htt p://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Pro uses pop-up flash!
In the March/April issue of American Photo is an article featuring the work of Russell James, as he photographs Victoria's Secret models backstage at an ad campaign shoot. For lighting, he used the pop-up flash on his Hasselblad H1, sometimes augmented with Briese HMI lights. There's nothing amateur about the photographer, the photos, or the gear. IMHO, the pop-up flash is a very useful feature, especially if your subject is wearing a cap or hat in bright sunlight. The reduced height lets the light reach further under the hat-brim than a shoe-mounted flash could. More than one person has written that built-in flashes don't belong on a serious camera. To me, it's useful to always have with you a flash that weighs almost nothing, and takes up no space at all. Pat White (frequent pop-up flash user)
Re: AF teleconverters
if your net aperture after adding 1 stop for the 1.4 converter or 2 stops for the 2X converter is slower than f5.6, the camera bodies will pretty much not be able to achieve focus lock. that means that you really should be under f2.8 for your base lens and f3.5 as the slowest where you have a reasonable chance of AF actually working. an f4 lens will be really hit and miss. shame about the Sigmas. i just sold both my 1.4X and 2X Sigma EX AF extenders today. Herb... - Original Message - From: "Amita Guha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 5:12 PM Subject: AF teleconverters > I tried taking the istD out birding this weekend and I found that it's > just too hard to focus manually at an effective 1200mm, so now I'm > looking for a solution. The first thing I want to get is an AF > teleconverter. I looked at B&H and there seems to be quite a range in > prices. Tamron's 1.4 is just $80, but Christian's Sigma EX 1.4 is $169, > and on the website it says it only works with certain lenses, none of > which I have (and I have a fair amount of Sigma glass). Tamron's 2x has > no such restrictions listed and it's $144. Do I have to be careful when > I buy an AF teleconverter or is this just a marketing ploy by Sigma?
Re: Fully manual SLR
Hmph: My life's anything but dull: http://urbancaravan.com/images/bike_couriers_life.JPG But seriously, Ryan, that's one cool photo! Get details, and let us know! cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "Ryan Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Fully manual SLR Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 01:19:40 +1000 A friend of mine, Laurent, who just returned to Lausanne just emailed me this pic and if I ever get the chance, I'll convince him to get me up there with him. Seems a bit high? It was more than 4000 metres in his paraglider. Not quite sure what camera it was or how cold it was, but I've asked him for details. I suspect it was one of those point and click digitals. Still. Very impressed. Is your life looking dull and uninspired? :) http://home.iprimus.com.au/heygoose/LaurentBusenhart0108-59.jpg Regards, Ryan > - Original Message - > From: "frank theriault" > Subject: Re: Fully manual SLR > > >I was testing them under about the most extreme conditions > possible. > > >It was something like -43ºC, _ MSN Premium includes powerful parental controls and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
RE: the pile
I ~still~ say her nose isn't ~that~ big... -knarf "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "pentax list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: the pile Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 17:00:18 +0100 The handle has come off your mop. http://www.bigdayphoto.com/tom/images/tan3.jpg Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ _ MSN Premium with Virus Guard and Firewall* from McAfee® Security : 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: GFM coming together
Hey, Marnie, I feel the same way as you. Bought my bus tickets to Pittsburg today (for $30 less than I thought they'd be - woo hoo!), so I feel like I'm really leaving tomorrow night!! 12 hours on the midnight bus to Pittsburg, then an overnight car ride with Mark, and we'll be there Thursday. C ya when you get there! cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll see you, frank, and you, Cotty, and everyone else on Friday afternoon. (I am guessing I'll be too pooped on Thursday night to travel up the mountain then). Marnie aka Doe :-) _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: Paw:Look what we found
Doesn't matter. I (like you) was thinking that the comments applied equally to both... -knarf "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Paw:Look what we found Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 13:25:20 -0400 Which Bill? Keith, don't talk about Bill like that. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ _ Free yourself from those irritating pop-up ads with MSn Premium. Get 2months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: AF teleconverters
Sigma's recommendations are based on the space between the rear element of the lens and the front element of the TC. If you can, try it out before you buy. That way you'll know if it will fit. For example: my 1.4x and 2x Sigmas work (as indicated on sigma's site) with my sigma 300/4 Macro and also work (not listed) with my Pentax SMC-A 200/4. They do not work with my vivitar S1 105/2.5 macro because the vivtar's rear element hits the TC's front element. Also, Sigma says that the camera will not AF with the 2x converter and 300/4, but it does... barely! I rarely ever use AF for the 1.4x either because you can almost feel the camera struggling to focus. Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Amita Guha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 5:12 PM Subject: AF teleconverters > I tried taking the istD out birding this weekend and I found that it's > just too hard to focus manually at an effective 1200mm, so now I'm > looking for a solution. The first thing I want to get is an AF > teleconverter. I looked at B&H and there seems to be quite a range in > prices. Tamron's 1.4 is just $80, but Christian's Sigma EX 1.4 is $169, > and on the website it says it only works with certain lenses, none of > which I have (and I have a fair amount of Sigma glass). Tamron's 2x has > no such restrictions listed and it's $144. Do I have to be careful when > I buy an AF teleconverter or is this just a marketing ploy by Sigma? > > Thanks, > Amita >
Re: GFM coming together
Geez, Mark!! You're lucky I travel real light! Three tiny (Leica CL, MX, one gigantic LX) bodies, maybe 4 or 5 modest lenses, and that's about it. Oh, I guess a monopod and a flash... Biggest thing I'm bringing is my sleeping bag. I'm guessing the back seat will be folded down, eh? BTW I got my bus tickets today. Yup, it's coming together. cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GFM coming together Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 15:50:35 -0400 Starting to get packed... http://www.robertstech.com/temp/packing.jpg -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com _ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines
Re: PAW - Green Heron
Very nice. Christian Skofteland wrote: Yes, it's another bird http://home.mindspring.com/~c_skofteland/id19.html The details: Two weeks ago, I decided to quit my job and take a week off before the new one starts (my wife says I change job more often than I change underwear...). The first day off (Monday) I decided to wander around the lake and photograph the wildlife. What a day! Two kingfishers were buzzing around catching fish. A sandpiper-like bird was running around a mud flat, a great blue heron stopped in for some fishing. And about four or five green herons joined the fray along with wood ducks, mallards, tons of other birds and the ubiquitous Canada geese. Sadly, all were way out of range of my 300mm w/1.4x TC (except the geese and mallards, but I'm sick of them). I have about 90 pictures with 95% showing little dots that are birds... I thought I could crop them but the detail was lost. However, the little guy in this week's PAW landed close enough to get some good shots. shot with the D, Sigma AF 300mm F4 APO Macro and Sigma EX 1.4x TC mounted on a tripod. ISO 200, F5.6 @1/160. Shot RAW and converted to TIFF with Pentax PhotoLab. Slight crop and sharpening in PS 7.0. Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PAW - Green Heron
Awesome shot Christian. Can't believe you caught him fish in hand...er..beak. Would have been nice to have gotten his eye sharp though, looks like the focal point is on the feathers in his hind end. I like the colors very much. rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, it's another bird http://home.mindspring.com/~c_skofteland/id19.html The details: Two weeks ago, I decided to quit my job and take a week off before the new one starts (my wife says I change job more often than I change underwear...). The first day off (Monday) I decided to wander around the lake and photograph the wildlife. What a day! Two kingfishers were buzzing around catching fish. A sandpiper-like bird was running around a mud flat, a great blue heron stopped in for some fishing. And about four or five green herons joined the fray along with wood ducks, mallards, tons of other birds and the ubiquitous Canada geese. Sadly, all were way out of range of my 300mm w/1.4x TC (except the geese and mallards, but I'm sick of them). I have about 90 pictures with 95% showing little dots that are birds... I thought I could crop them but the detail was lost. However, the little guy in this week's PAW landed close enough to get some good shots. shot with the D, Sigma AF 300mm F4 APO Macro and Sigma EX 1.4x TC mounted on a tripod. ISO 200, F5.6 @1/160. Shot RAW and converted to TIFF with Pentax PhotoLab. Slight crop and sharpening in PS 7.0. Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/
AF teleconverters
I tried taking the istD out birding this weekend and I found that it's just too hard to focus manually at an effective 1200mm, so now I'm looking for a solution. The first thing I want to get is an AF teleconverter. I looked at B&H and there seems to be quite a range in prices. Tamron's 1.4 is just $80, but Christian's Sigma EX 1.4 is $169, and on the website it says it only works with certain lenses, none of which I have (and I have a fair amount of Sigma glass). Tamron's 2x has no such restrictions listed and it's $144. Do I have to be careful when I buy an AF teleconverter or is this just a marketing ploy by Sigma? Thanks, Amita
Re: PAW - Green Heron
Fabulous. Beautiful shot. Paul On May 31, 2004, at 4:03 PM, Christian Skofteland wrote: Yes, it's another bird http://home.mindspring.com/~c_skofteland/id19.html The details: Two weeks ago, I decided to quit my job and take a week off before the new one starts (my wife says I change job more often than I change underwear...). The first day off (Monday) I decided to wander around the lake and photograph the wildlife. What a day! Two kingfishers were buzzing around catching fish. A sandpiper-like bird was running around a mud flat, a great blue heron stopped in for some fishing. And about four or five green herons joined the fray along with wood ducks, mallards, tons of other birds and the ubiquitous Canada geese. Sadly, all were way out of range of my 300mm w/1.4x TC (except the geese and mallards, but I'm sick of them). I have about 90 pictures with 95% showing little dots that are birds... I thought I could crop them but the detail was lost. However, the little guy in this week's PAW landed close enough to get some good shots. shot with the D, Sigma AF 300mm F4 APO Macro and Sigma EX 1.4x TC mounted on a tripod. ISO 200, F5.6 @1/160. Shot RAW and converted to TIFF with Pentax PhotoLab. Slight crop and sharpening in PS 7.0. Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Street Portraiture
Thanks Marnie, I would love to do just that. Perhaps one day we will have that opportunity. Paul I would On May 31, 2004, at 3:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can take a studio type style shot of me any old time. :-) Marnie aka Doe
Re: Pt. Pelee birds
Very nice. Congratulations. I still haven't made it out there. Perhaps this week. Paul On May 31, 2004, at 12:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just put up some bird shots taken at Pt. Pelee recently. If you have a minute... http://hometown.aol.ca/pentxuser/page16.html
A little bit of OT - Canon i9100
Hi folks, I have been a very happy user of HP-932C printer - printed lot of 8.5 * 11 prints. Now, however, I do want to print bigger - 13 * 19 kind of size and am inclined to Canon i9100. My inclination is basically obviously on account of the price and the intelligent ink management system - six individual ink tanks which they are claiming would reduce ink waste, reduce replacement and printing costs. Requesting to share experience who are using i9100 - I remember sometime back there was a big discussion - epson V/s canon - - I don't want to start brand war, just want to know plusses and minuses of i9100. _ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/
PAW - Green Heron
Yes, it's another bird http://home.mindspring.com/~c_skofteland/id19.html The details: Two weeks ago, I decided to quit my job and take a week off before the new one starts (my wife says I change job more often than I change underwear...). The first day off (Monday) I decided to wander around the lake and photograph the wildlife. What a day! Two kingfishers were buzzing around catching fish. A sandpiper-like bird was running around a mud flat, a great blue heron stopped in for some fishing. And about four or five green herons joined the fray along with wood ducks, mallards, tons of other birds and the ubiquitous Canada geese. Sadly, all were way out of range of my 300mm w/1.4x TC (except the geese and mallards, but I'm sick of them). I have about 90 pictures with 95% showing little dots that are birds... I thought I could crop them but the detail was lost. However, the little guy in this week's PAW landed close enough to get some good shots. shot with the D, Sigma AF 300mm F4 APO Macro and Sigma EX 1.4x TC mounted on a tripod. ISO 200, F5.6 @1/160. Shot RAW and converted to TIFF with Pentax PhotoLab. Slight crop and sharpening in PS 7.0. Christian Skofteland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: GFM coming together
Don't forget the Advil Mark! Your back is going to hurt after lugging all that equipment...lol.. 8). Dave -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 3:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GFM coming together Starting to get packed... http://www.robertstech.com/temp/packing.jpg -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: GFM coming together
In a message dated 5/31/2004 12:48:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Starting to get packed... http://www.robertstech.com/temp/packing.jpg -- Mark Roberts --- GAWD! Marnie aka Doe ;-)
Re: GFM coming together
Starting to get packed... http://www.robertstech.com/temp/packing.jpg -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Can the istD capture Infrared images?
Hey Sid. Here is a link for a picture that Larry from Prescott shot. I'm impressed. http://tripodman.smugmug.com/gallery/65381/2/3401970/Large Dave > Hey group, > I am close to purchasing a istD... one of my last minute hangups is my > wondering how well the istD does with IR capture. > Probably 50-75% of the images I take these past couple of years is IR > black and white. Having seen some really exciting results that members > of the IR list have been getting with digicams and IR filters, I would > definitely embrace this new way of doing things, and I hope the istD > has that capacity. > Greetings from CajunLand USA South Louisiana > Sid Barras >
Re: Street Portraiture
In a message dated 5/29/2004 8:52:03 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks Shel. I'll take that. All we really disagree about is the definition of the word "portrait." To me, it can mean any number of things, but most often it's a creation. A photo that tries to capture the essence of a person is journalism in my book. But, hey, I'm an ad guy . Paul - Paul, haven't had time to look at your other shots yet. And I believe there are at least two types of portraiture, photo journalism style and studio style. Now that I have done a studio class, I am aware of the requirements of that style to some degree and think you did a good job on the street with daylight. People pay for studio shots for themselves to look the best they can, NOT warts and all. But sort of idealized images, they way they see themselves -- looking the best they can. We all may walk around with an image of ourselves in our head that is slightly better than we actually look most of the time. As a woman, I would prefer shots where I look the best I can. If photographed incorrectly I can look downright ugly. And, although not traditionally pretty, I am not really ugly. Also I wouldn't want a lot of wrinkles, etc., which I now have a fair number of. So I think you are right that most women would not want warts and all. Sometimes I think maybe males don't understand how this culture (Western culture in general) programs a woman to want to be pretty and/or to look good. It becomes a part of who we are and we can feel inadequate and inferior if we think we look ugly or even not so good. You can take a studio type style shot of me any old time. :-) Marnie aka Doe
Re: Newbie to the list
Welcome to the list, Jon! In the zoom/prime debate, I'm on the zoom side. In most cases, unless you make a lot of big enlargements, you won't see the difference, and you'll be able to get the precise framing you want. The only prime lenses I have are the F50 1.7, which I use occasionally for low-light shooting, and an old Makinon 500 f8 mirror lens. The rest are zooms: FA20-35 f4, FA28-70 f4, FA28-200 f3.8-5.6 (my snapshot lens), and the Sigma 70-200 f2.8 EX-APO. For everyday use, the Pentax 28-70 f4 may suit your needs. It's sharp, and you may be able to find a new one on sale, or a used one at a good price. Hope this is helpful. Pat White
RE: the pile
>> > I've been giving Tom and Ashlee a crash course on >> Australian lingo. >> > They were particular taken when I referred to something as >> "Daggy" and >> > tom is campaigning to use it as their new band name! lol. >> >> Don't forget to tell them the "other" meaning of "dags" The >> one that has to do with sheep... ;-) > >I think that's what I like it, it makes perfect sense. We could also go with >The Dingleberries. > >tv Teg-knots Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: GFM coming together
>Woo Hoo!! > >Just got back from another weekend with the kids (two in a row, 'cause the >ex had to be away on business this weekend). It's 1:00 am, and I'm on list >for the first time in a couple of days, just for a few minutes. > >Work tomorrow. Pack tomorrow night. Work Tuesday, and catch the midnight >bus to Pittsburg, to meet the sore and tired Mr. Roberts. > >Then, we're on our way! > >can't wait, >frank I have to work Tuesday, then I'm off Weds, packing, then flying Thursday. See you on the mountain on Friday late afternoon Frank. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: Newbie to the list
Hah! Not much improvement, I'd say, so far as "lake cold" is concerned! I went thru boot camp at USN Great Lakes -- ohhh. a long time ago! -- and had to occasionally stand "fence watch," which meant walking the inside perimeter of the compound fence. At night, dead of Winter, in the snow, and the wind coming off the lake like it does, that was a really miserable duty! Sure glad I moved to Southern California! keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith, I'm in Chicago now. I do miss Racine Wisconsin and the lakeshore access. The Great Lakes are really a terrific asset for the midwest. And yes, I have never been quite as cold as standing in a 30 mph 'breeze' on an overcast 20 degree F day on the lakeshore. I wanted Jon to see those photos because my equipment was pretty simple, a Pentax ME and 3 prime lenses 50/1.7, 28/2.8, and 135/3.5. I've got 10 times as much equipment now, but my pictures aren't 10 times better. :-) Regards, Bob S. Keith writes: Nice site, Bob... I grew up close to Lake Erie, Just east of Cleveland, so I could really _feel_ the cold and wind you show around the lighthouse! Where do you live now...since you left Racine some years ago? keith whaley
Re: WTB: Rich Uncle
Hell, I had a rich uncle... He did not get rich by giving money to his nephews. -- Steve Jolly wrote: William Robb wrote: Buying prime lenses is dangerous. You soon realize that you never actually have as many as you want/ need. This mailing list is a very bad place to be asking these questions, unless you have a rich uncle. Anyone got a spare? :-) S -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
Re: Fully manual SLR
A friend of mine, Laurent, who just returned to Lausanne just emailed me this pic and if I ever get the chance, I'll convince him to get me up there with him. Seems a bit high? It was more than 4000 metres in his paraglider. Not quite sure what camera it was or how cold it was, but I've asked him for details. I suspect it was one of those point and click digitals. Still. Very impressed. Is your life looking dull and uninspired? :) http://home.iprimus.com.au/heygoose/LaurentBusenhart0108-59.jpg Regards, Ryan > - Original Message - > From: "frank theriault" > Subject: Re: Fully manual SLR > > >I was testing them under about the most extreme conditions > possible. > > >It was something like -43ºC,
Re: Darkroom or Digital for beginners
In a message dated 5/30/2004 9:18:39 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At this point, I really don't see it as better, or worse than film. Different? Most definitely. Superior? Not a chance. William Robb --- Neither do I, see it as better than film. At least as regards the end result. But for me the process of TAKING pictures is better (or smoother or easier or something), because I can review what I have taken. Yes, that makes a difference for me. It aids my on-going learning process. And I don't have to worry about burning film "wasting shots," which means it allows me to play around more and try more, which also aids my on-going learning process. And the one good lab around here is not that close to me, so I also save on driving time and frustration over traffic. Process and results are different things, naturally. Marnie aka Doe Which doesn't cover the post processing stuff. That's another ball game in itself.
Re: Newbie to the list
Keith, I'm in Chicago now. I do miss Racine Wisconsin and the lakeshore access. The Great Lakes are really a terrific asset for the midwest. And yes, I have never been quite as cold as standing in a 30 mph 'breeze' on an overcast 20 degree F day on the lakeshore. I wanted Jon to see those photos because my equipment was pretty simple, a Pentax ME and 3 prime lenses 50/1.7, 28/2.8, and 135/3.5. I've got 10 times as much equipment now, but my pictures aren't 10 times better. :-) Regards, Bob S. Keith writes: > Nice site, Bob... > I grew up close to Lake Erie, Just east of Cleveland, so I could really > _feel_ the cold and wind you show around the lighthouse! > Where do you live now...since you left Racine some years ago? > > keith whaley > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > http://members.aol.com/rfsindg/WindPoint.html
Re: Fully manual SLR
> Some people made a external battery compartment. I even remember > reading that a manufacturer made one. With a cord - so you can > keep the battery in a pocket or some other relativly warm place. > You would need a screw-in contact thing to put in the camera. For the LX - http://www.cetussoft.com/pentax/lxrmtcrd.jpg Fred
Probable Decision and Question for Rob
Well there is some good advice there. First it good to here of someone who has used the MZ-S in the exact conditions I heading off into. Outside specs but it seems to work. Looking for a MX as a back-up. If I can't find one then I will go for a K1000 Robb, do you know someone near you that would be good to have the MX serviced with cold weather lubricants. I am just south of you in the shire and have used S&S before but am unsure if they would have the experience to cold weather proof a camera.
Re: Newbie to the list
Welcome. What part of NC? Several suggestions: 1. KEA, HTTP://www.keh.com/ sells good used stuff. You can get some nice lenses cheap and their stuff is typically rated honestly, i.e., don't hesitate to buy "bargain". 2. The expensive zooms are as good as the primes but they are expensive (hence the name) and heavy. My approach has been to buy cheaper zooms for snapshots and times when a zoom is convenient and then build up a collection of primes for when I have more time and want higher quality stuff. To be honest, I find the weight of the better zooms to be really annoying for walking around purposes. If you don't plan to enlarge bigger than 8x10 you'll be OK. With modern lenses, the biggest problems with cheaper zooms will be the slower speeds (3.5-5.6, typically) and some barrel or pincushion distortion. These aren't that noticeable unless you are shooting objects that make the distortion obvious, like buildings. They are also less sharp, especially in the corners, but this can be fixed by shooting at smaller apertures, f8. Of course, lenses do give a "look" to the pics and most of us on this list like the Pentax "look". An example of these less obvious properties is "bokeh" which is how the lens renders the out of focus part of the image. Nice bokeh is smooth and compliments the in-focus subject. 3. Get yourself a good support, i.e., tripod or monopod. This is more important for sharpness (for most people) than the lens quality. Get a good one, like Manfrotto, etc. These are pricey ($100-$200) so you might want to consider a good monopod instead. These are also easier to walk around with. Now sit back and enjoy as others on the list contradict what I just said ;-). Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: the pile
And maybe not even then depending on the state. ;-) Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/30/04 08:19PM >>> On May 30, 2004, at 8:09 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > On May 30, 2004, at 5:07 PM, mike wilson wrote: > >> Tanya Mayer wrote: >> >>> So I had like 7 hours sleep last night (tom and Ash are still >>> snoring), and I am now feeling SLIGHTLY human again (I am able to >>> talk without slurring my speech now!), although, it looks as though >>> I am going to have to spend a pretty large chunk of my spending >>> money on a visit to a dentist! ugh! >> >> You are only visiting, Tan; cosmetic dentistry is compulsory only >> when you take on citizenship 8-))) >> >
Re: Outside the Shattuck Theater in Berkeley
On Sat, 29 May 2004, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Sorry, Dario ... those "distractions" contribute to the story. They were > left there specifically to give the people a sense of place. Without those > items they could be against a wall anywhere. I 'll be damned! I thought of this myself. But then changed my mind again, as they were/looked to me like posters that could appear in any old window; they may qualify Berkeley, but I didn't think Shattuck Theater comes out of them. Wrong? Oh, and since I posted something, I vote colour in this instance. Kostas
Re: Philadelphia -- in transit to GFM
Jostein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi, gang. > > If the days to come will be as eventful as the first, this is going to > be THE trip of a lifetime. Hi Jostein, It sounds like you are going to have a great time and a lot of memories to share! Keep a photographic track of everything, it'll be fun! Ciao, Gianfranco PS: H, I wonder how much could I spend if I decide to come to NC within the week... Naaah, impossible... :-( = _ __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/
Re: Newbie to the list
Nice site, Bob... I grew up close to Lake Erie, Just east of Cleveland, so I could really _feel_ the cold and wind you show around the lighthouse! Where do you live now...since you left Racine some years ago? keith whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon, Welcome to the list. We're a friendly bunch and all started in about the same place as you are today. Many of us favor prime lenses over zooms. My personal favorites are the M series of lenses. They are small and light enough to carry 2 or 3 around instead of a zoom and the quality of the resulting pictures are a bit sharper. They are also popular because they are inexpensive and abundant. The great thing about Pentax is that these 20 year old lenses are fully functional with most every camera Pentax makes today. Personally, I'd start with an M 135mm f3.5 for under $50, add an M 28mm f2.8 for a bit less, and then think about a tripod, but it all depends on what kind of photos you are taking. Point is, Pentax lens compatibility and the K-mount bayonet means that there are tons of primes and zooms available for your amusement. Ask here and we'll all offer suggestions and opinions on how to spend your money. :-) As to my own start with Pentax, I point you to the following web site... http://members.aol.com/rfsindg/WindPoint.html Regards, Bob S. [...]
Re: Paw: Killer dogs
Aha. Puts an entirely different complexion on the matter. Thanks for the clarification, William. I understand the situation now, and the Rottie had just had enough, and did what comes naturally to most dogs, it stopped it's attacker the best way it knew how. Hardly unprovoked, was it! I had no way to know the history, so thanks for sticking up for your dog. William Robb wrote: [...] Just to make sure you don't think I am making light of this. The cat in question was quite unpleasant. She was capable of going from a friendly purrball to all fangs and claws for absolutely no reason. One could be contentedly stroking her and suddenly finding the cat going for your eyes. Frankly, we didn't know what to do with her. I hate putting an animal to sleep, but we were running out of options with her. I won't pass a psychotic animal on to someone else. Seems obvious to me, that's what this one was! Twice, we came home to find that she had opened Rollei's face up. The third time, she struck out. We had no behavioural problems of this sort with the dog before this, and have had none since. The dog in question has one of the more solid tempermants of any of the thousands of dogs I have been in contact with. Leaving a dog, any dog, unsupervised with a baby or very young child is, in my opinion, gross stupidity bordering on criminal negligence Absolutely so! You are discussing dog behaviour with a qualified obedience and protection instructor, BTW. I teach this stuff. William Robb Yes, and I think I can speak for all of us who love pets -- thanks for completing the tale and clarifying the situation. keith
WTB: Rich Uncle
William Robb wrote: Buying prime lenses is dangerous. You soon realize that you never actually have as many as you want/ need. This mailing list is a very bad place to be asking these questions, unless you have a rich uncle. Anyone got a spare? :-) S
*istD Battery life and 85mm FA*
Shooting in the cool of the evening recently with the istD I changed from the 24-90FA to the 85mmFA* to keep my shutter speed up.. (already at iso3200). Disaster!... there was no indication of aperture... and the lens refused to autofocus.. changing to the 50mm 1.7 allowed me to continue and indeed I have taken around 50 more shots with the 50mm and the 24-90. Though both the 85mm and a recently acquired 24mmFA* refused to function. This morning the battery meter showed low for the first time and autofocus failed with the 24-90. Well, as you can probably guess, changing the batteries has restored full function even with the 85mm.. So it would seem that the mechanisms of the larger FA* lenses require quite a bit more power than the lesser optics to the point where they act as an early warning of battery life...More glass, heavier gearing I guess. OH and how many shots has my first set of batts given? A quick count of the saved files gives a figure of around 770, not many with flash but the fisrt 100 or so with an 340Mb microdrive, the rest with Lexar 40x, and I do not use the review screen that much. A set of lithiums costs around UK £15 so that's a bit less than 2pence (one centUS) a shot. Pressing the shutter on a *istD is a pretty cheap thrill!!!Tom A Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html
RE: the pile
> -Original Message- > From: Tanya Mayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > btw, Mr Cottrell, the photo that tom posted of that stuff > that APPEARED to be mine? Well, UNDERNEATH it all, was a > number of boxes (almost as many as > mine!) that I noticed, were addressed to "Cotty" and "Steve > Cottrell", so there! Whatever. Here are some pics - http://www.bigdayphoto.com/tom/images/tan2.jpg (talking to barfing daughter) http://www.bigdayphoto.com/tom/images/tan3.jpg (as you can see, my cat is concerned) http://www.bigdayphoto.com/tom/images/tan1.jpg (had to do it) tv
RE: the pile
> -Original Message- > From: Christian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - Original Message - > From: "Tanya Mayer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > I've been giving Tom and Ashlee a crash course on > Australian lingo. > > They were particular taken when I referred to something as > "Daggy" and > > tom is campaigning to use it as their new band name! lol. > > Don't forget to tell them the "other" meaning of "dags" The > one that has to do with sheep... ;-) I think that's what I like it, it makes perfect sense. We could also go with The Dingleberries. tv
Rare Pentax MF-1 on ebay
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RE: Paw:Look what we found
-- Rotties seem to have more pack drive than most of the other breeds, and don't really do well on their own. Thats why Rotties that spend too much time alone become so anti social. I agree they are known to get antisocial in an environment where they are chained up and get little attention. --- My Rottie bitch had a pet cat for many years. http://www.reginakennelclub.ca/image/Misc/pages/leica_tmax_jpg.htm - That's a really cute picture! 8) - Dogs don't have the mental capacity to think they are anything other than what they are. Dogs mental capacity differs greatly from breed to breed and from every individual dog. The owner has a lot to do with how well a dog try's to learn our language and ways though. Mine continually amazes me demonstrating much more intelligence then most people think dogs are supposed to have by knowing the meaning of many more words then average. If your Rottie has issues with other dogs, you might want to consider some socialization work. It is so much more pleasurable to own a dog that you don't have to worry about going goofy when an unexpected situation arises. Been there, tried that, didn't work out well. He will listen to me as long as I'm keeping an eye on him, but the first chance he gets to follow his own ideas, well he gets into trouble. As long as the other dog doesn't want to be boss life is good. However if the other dog has similar ideas, well maybe mumbles as first, but if you continue to try to socialize the 2 real serious blood shed will follow if the other dog doesn't back down. That can get expensive and cause misery for everyone. We even had him neutered, but it didn't help. As long as he loves people I can deal with the other issue. He's almost 9 years old now, and a wonderful friend. Umm... we might should drop this now as I really don't see how we could get any more off topic..lol. William Robb
RE: Re: Newbie to the list
William Robb wrote: > > Would I be better off getting an assortment of primes > > as opposed to 1 or 2 zooms? And which primes would be > > best? > > Buying prime lenses is dangerous. You soon realize that you never > actually have as many as you want/ need. > This mailing list is a very bad place to be asking these questions, > unless you have a rich uncle. > > Before PDML, 6 lenses. > Present collection: 47 lenses Hi Jon, I agree with Bill about never having enough prime lenses, but I much prefer them to zooms. Before I joined PDML, I had two cameras and three lenses. My MF collection now is bigger than that and I didn't have any MF equipment before I joined :-) What I have gained here can't be bought; the exchange of ideas here, seeing others photographs and styles, have changed me from 'click and hope' to someone who is thinking about what he wants to capture all the time. I still have much to learn, but I'm having a lot of fun on the way too (both by with what is seen and/or typed on this list and by actively enjoying photography every time I pick up a camera). Malcolm
Re: Website v3.0
Hi! Shaun, I was trying to say that now, after you just released your site, it would be wise to listen to what people say. You see, my intent when I was working on my web-design (admittely much more simple than that of yours) was to be as compatible as possible. Of course, I realize that in my office I am behind a firewall and so on. Nonetheless, I think that compatibility can be an important factor. I am certainly no expert when it comes to HTML work, so I just have to 'suck it and see'! Me neither. But it is not rocket science ... Thanks for compliments though... You're very welcome. After all, it is about photography, and not web-design ... Boris
AW: Fully manual SLR
One of my most exciting camera repair undertakings was with a friend's "sticky mirror" LX. This camera spent a lot of time in the deep freeze in various stages of my repair attempts, always in a large bag that allowed shutter operation without taking it out. I remember being frustrated many times after changing some detail on the camera and trying it out successfully in the warm - and then again that infamous delay after taking it out of the fridge... Sven -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Montag, 31. Mai 2004 00:53 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: Fully manual SLR ... One of the local newsboys I used to know had a low temp Nikon. It spent half the year in the deep freeze, the other half working. William Robb
