Re: DS
On 20 Oct 2004 at 23:40, Alan Chan wrote: > Or driving exotic cars in city traffic... LOL, the Dino clutch would send you lame in Sydney traffic :-) Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: MZ-S and batteries
I remember someone mentioned Pentax had recommended the LI setting for rechargables just in case. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan 3. What about the LR6 / LI Switch on the battery grip, what setting do you use and what difference does it make ? LR6. I figure that 1.5v is close to 1.35v
Re: One Last Film Body Survey
For me it would be an MZ-S with the following changes. 1. Slightly bigger viewfinder and higher eyepoint. 2. Preferably an interchangeable finder. 3. Faster AF and more accurate servo AF. 4. Slightly bigger grip closer to the Z-1P's gip (with at option to add a handstrap). 5. Faster frame rate say 5 fps would be enough 6. Quieter operation 7. Metal back (or something that feels more robust). 8. Improved exposure data imprinting e.g print actual exposure time on Bulb exposures. 9. Higher flash sync 1/250 10. Built in flash exposure compensation. available in all modes. with a separate compensation scale / indicator in the viewfinder. 11. Exposure adjustments in 1/3 stops. Even it this requires aperture control using a thumbwheel on the body. 12. And last but not least (Digital option via a digital back a' la Leica R9) (Dreams dreams dreams!!!) A camera like that would not just be a film swansong but it could serve as a platform for future DSLR development and may even make commercial sense. Patrick
Re: DS
Or driving exotic cars in city traffic... Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan You're right. That's nothing but pleasure of handling nicely krafted camera in hands. That's one of the main reasons why so many people still likes their manual cameras very much.
Re: MZ-S and batteries
Interesting.. Just a curiosity -- Anyone els on the list running an MZ-S on NiMH Batteries, what about other cameras such as an MZ-5n ? Rgds Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patrick Genovese wrote: I assume you have the battery grip... Some quesitons: 1. What NiMH batteries do you use i.e. ( mAh) ? I started with 1800mAh and now am on 2100mAh... I upgraded for since I use them in my flash as well- not for extra life in the grip. 2. How many rolls of film do you shoot with a freshly charged set ? Tough to say... I've never measured it. 3. What about the LR6 / LI Switch on the battery grip, what setting do you use and what difference does it make ? LR6. I figure that 1.5v is close to 1.35v -R
Re: Best Screw Mount Lenses
My late father-in-law left me a pristine chrome Spotmatic II with a S-M-C Takumar 50mm f1.4 and a few accessories. The meter even works! I was checking some of the usual sites, but could find little information regarding which lenses to look for and which to avoid. I did read the 85 f1.8 is a great lens and Mike Johnston just wrote that the 35 f2 is pretty good, but that's about it. If you could point me to a site or have an opinion I would like to hear it. Thanks. Jim The SMC 35/3.5, a high definition low flare lens, is great for street photography or any other kind... It's rather common and cheap. The 28mm (very common and cheap) and the 24mm (less common and more expensive) are both good lenses. The 85/1.8 is indeed fabulous. My personal favorite is the 100mm macro. It has good bokeh, which is not common for a macro lens (they say). I've also liked the Pentax K 135mm f2.5, which is the same as SMC Takumar version 2. If you want to know how to distinguish version 2 from 1, write me off-list, I have the data not far. Welcome to the Pentax family! Andre
Re: MZ-S and batteries
Patrick Genovese wrote: I assume you have the battery grip... Some quesitons: 1. What NiMH batteries do you use i.e. ( mAh) ? I started with 1800mAh and now am on 2100mAh... I upgraded for since I use them in my flash as well- not for extra life in the grip. 2. How many rolls of film do you shoot with a freshly charged set ? Tough to say... I've never measured it. 3. What about the LR6 / LI Switch on the battery grip, what setting do you use and what difference does it make ? LR6. I figure that 1.5v is close to 1.35v -R
Fwd: PAW: The Fjord Land
Hi! It seems this one hasn't reached the list. So trying again... I am connected again. It seems ADSL is faster than Cable Net. http://www.webaperture.com/gallery/photos/49838 More yet to come. What do you say? Thanks. -- Boris mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I'm Outta Here
Are you still up for the occasional PDML gathering? Stan On Oct 20, 2004, at 1:17 PM, tom wrote: Guys, I think I'm done. I don't follow threads anymore, I don't contribute much, and I just have no time. Before I head out, here's my new website - www.bigdayphoto.com Designed by our own Albano Garcia. Thanks Albano! Second, me and this guy - http://www.romanphotography.com Started this - http://www.documentaryassociates.com and got an office in Bethesda, MD along with my sister, who is a planner and florist. So that's where I am, and in large part I have this list to thank. 7 years ago I had a Program Plus, a Bow Wow 135 Tak, and little idea of how to use them. This list has been a major contributor to me becoming a professional photographer, and I want to say thanks. Particular thanks go to Don, Doug, Robb, Bruce D., Mark R., Bill, Aaron, Bill Cornett, Casselberry, Boz, Valentin, Cesar, Christian, Fred, Gianfranco, Mustarde, Cassino, Shel, Studdert, Geoff, Albano, Tan, and Frank. If anything ridiculously funny happens, let me know. :) Be nice to each other! tv --- Thomas Van Veen Photography www.bigdayphoto.com 301-758-3085
RE: CLA in Aus
But if you must, Camera Clinic is good. http://members.ozemail.com.au/~ccrepair/ Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan Just noticed some dust on my 5n's focusing screen and thought may it is about time I considered getting a CLA just to make sure it's healthy in general. Anyone know what sort of prices I'd be looking at (in Australia)? TIA. Also, if I don't go for a CLA, what's the best way to clean the focusing screen? I think a couple of specks may be above it too.. Doesn't affect the shots, but it sure is a tad annoying.
RE: CLA in Aus
Don't "clean" it, you will destory it and end up buying another screen. Just unclip the metal clip, remove the screen and blow off the dust. http://www3.telus.net/wlachan/MZ-Mscreen0.jpg http://www3.telus.net/wlachan/MZ-Mscreen1.jpg Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan Just noticed some dust on my 5n's focusing screen and thought may it is about time I considered getting a CLA just to make sure it's healthy in general. Anyone know what sort of prices I'd be looking at (in Australia)? TIA. Also, if I don't go for a CLA, what's the best way to clean the focusing screen? I think a couple of specks may be above it too.. Doesn't affect the shots, but it sure is a tad annoying. Cheers, Ryan
RE: DS
My two cents worth.. I'm all for digital & I constantly lust after the latest DSLRs but I wont jump onto the DSLR bandwagon before the market is offering something that can deliver the image quality of say an EOS 1DS MKII at price point comparable to a new MZ-S (when it was launched). The rationale behind it is.. Granted the current crop of 6-8MP DSLRs can match 35mm quality. If i'm going to invest in equipment then I want something better than whan I currently have. On the obsolesence front the fact the the manufacturer stops making the product after a couple of years does not really bother me provided that it is still supported directly or through 3rd parties. My dad drives an ancient Morris Minor which he bought second hand at 24 he is now 60. If anything goes wrong with it he can still fix it. I beleive that the DSLR market will reach a plateau where the megapixel race will slow down to a crawl and development will concentrate on other issues. Once that happens the rate at which a DSLR will become technically obsolete will slow down dramatically. Who knows we may even get to a point where interchangeable digital backs are the norm (yeah Pat dream on...) provided you start with a generous amount of computing power on board the camera then it should be able to deal with a higher resolution sensor. Maybe this is all a pipedream only time will tell and at this rate probably not too much time. Apologies for the diatribe.. Patrick
Re: OT: Exactly Who Is Bob Sullivan?
I get the same tag on messages from you, Frank. Perhaps it's the bunny ears? -Mat On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 09:48:01 -0400, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Warning: This message may not be from whom it claims to be. Beware > of following any links in it or of providing the sender with any > personal information."
Re: Best Screw Mount Lenses
That 50/1.4 you got with the camera is a pretty darned nice lens. And I'm still cursing myself for not getting a 35/3.5 cheaply when I had the chance. I've got an S-M-C Takumar 400/5.6 that's absolutely beautiful. But no, it's not for sale. :-) -Mat On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 03:17:32 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My late father-in-law left me a pristine chrome Spotmatic II with a S-M-C Takumar > 50mm f1.4 and a few accessories. The meter even works! I was checking some of the > usual sites, but could find little information regarding which lenses to look for > and which to avoid. I did read the 85 f1.8 is a great lens and Mike Johnston just > wrote that the 35 f2 is pretty good, but that's about it. If you could point me to a > site or have an opinion I would like to hear it. Thanks.
Re: I'm Outta Here
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 12:55:35 +1000, Tanya Mayer Photography <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hey frank! > > don't forget one for me too! > How could I forget you, tan! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PAW: Ayuthaya, Thailand
oops typo --- "scened" supppoed to read "scenes" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mark, Tnx for your comments. Now that you mention it I believe that there were some scened from the movie Mortal Combat shot there. Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patrick Genovese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Shot this on Holiday in Thailand http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2804342 Now *that's* a wonderful photo. Looks like something out of one of the Lord of the Rings movies. Great work!
Re: PAW: Ayuthaya, Thailand
Hi Mark, Tnx for your comments. Now that you mention it I believe that there were some scened from the movie Mortal Combat shot there. Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patrick Genovese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Shot this on Holiday in Thailand http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2804342 Now *that's* a wonderful photo. Looks like something out of one of the Lord of the Rings movies. Great work!
Re: PAW - "Lake Pukaki at Sunset"
David, Love the shot! I whish it was mine :-) Patrick
Best Screw Mount Lenses
My late father-in-law left me a pristine chrome Spotmatic II with a S-M-C Takumar 50mm f1.4 and a few accessories. The meter even works! I was checking some of the usual sites, but could find little information regarding which lenses to look for and which to avoid. I did read the 85 f1.8 is a great lens and Mike Johnston just wrote that the 35 f2 is pretty good, but that's about it. If you could point me to a site or have an opinion I would like to hear it. Thanks. Jim
Re: unsubscribe
Or short ones for that matter. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Peter J. Alling" Subject: Re: unsubscribe Apparently not. Perhaps he doesn't like long goodbyes. William Robb -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
RE: PESO - prayers
It wasn't me!!! (said with Tan's Aussie Ocker accent!) I too, like blur and movement. And anyways, just look how tack sharp the candlebra thingy is! I too like this pic! BUT, I think it would be a cool one to see in black and white! Tanya Mayer Photography Qld, Australia www.tanyamayer.com Ph +61 (07) 49831247 Mobile +61 0437831247 -Original Message- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2004 12:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO - prayers On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 01:20:07 +0200, Jostein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.oksne.net/paw/prayers.html > > Comments/criticism most welcome. > Sorry I'm so late in commenting, Jostein. I like this a lot. Wonderful use of available light, and of course, I'm always down for creative use of blur (unlike, apparently, certain Aussies who commented on this lovely photo ). This photo has a certain mood to it; there's a solemnity and reverence that you captured that would have been obvious even without my knowing the title. Very well done! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
CLA in Aus
Just noticed some dust on my 5n's focusing screen and thought may it is about time I considered getting a CLA just to make sure it's healthy in general. Anyone know what sort of prices I'd be looking at (in Australia)? TIA. Also, if I don't go for a CLA, what's the best way to clean the focusing screen? I think a couple of specks may be above it too.. Doesn't affect the shots, but it sure is a tad annoying. Cheers, Ryan
Re: One Last Film Body Survey
On 20 Oct 2004 at 18:38, William Robb wrote: > Heck, they could probably build something that would use LX finders > too. > I happen to like interchangable finders, it's one of the things I > miss with the DSLR. That's why I still have an LX system. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: MZ-S discontinued?
- Original Message - From: "Herb Chong" Subject: Re: MZ-S discontinued? Kodak's monthly report on sales shows that film sales, in terms of number of units sold, is down by more than 20% over this time last year, almost 1% faster than last month. indications are that Fuji's film sales are down about 18% compared to this time last year. single use cameras are also down. the 20% number seems to be steady across the board for all film manufacturers. I was chatting with a Noritsu technician today. Apparently the new machines don't have built in sleevers. William Robb
Re: I'm Outta Here
tom wrote: Guys, I think I'm done. I don't follow threads anymore, I don't contribute much, and I just have no time. The real problem is that you have no time. Once you'll have again some we know you'll be back. If anything ridiculously funny happens, let me know. :) Yep. The fakezine team is working on a farewell issue featuring tv. HAR! cheers !
Re: unsubscribe
- Original Message - From: "Peter J. Alling" Subject: Re: unsubscribe Apparently not. Perhaps he doesn't like long goodbyes. William Robb
RE: I'm Outta Here
hey frank! don't forget one for me too! tan.x. Tanya Mayer Photography Qld, Australia www.tanyamayer.com Ph +61 (07) 49831247 Mobile +61 0437831247 -Original Message- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2004 12:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: I'm Outta Here On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 14:17:02 -0400, tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Guys, I think I'm done. I don't follow threads anymore, I don't contribute > much, and I just have no time. You'll be missed, tom. You're still gonna be doing the GFM thang, I hope? I owe you a pic of Tan and Cesar at GFM - one of these days... cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO - prayers
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 01:20:07 +0200, Jostein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.oksne.net/paw/prayers.html > > Comments/criticism most welcome. > Sorry I'm so late in commenting, Jostein. I like this a lot. Wonderful use of available light, and of course, I'm always down for creative use of blur (unlike, apparently, certain Aussies who commented on this lovely photo ). This photo has a certain mood to it; there's a solemnity and reverence that you captured that would have been obvious even without my knowing the title. Very well done! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO - Smokin' city
On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 14:20:27 +1000, John Coyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another in my occasional series - shot from the roof yet again! > http://tinyurl.com/6dara > > Comments welcomed - good or bad! > Well, I guess that smoke from forest fires is not a good thing, but it certainly makes for a moody skyline photo. Well captured, John! It actually looks quite pretty (despite the cause). cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PAW - "Lake Pukaki at Sunset"
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 16:52:01 +1300, David Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You're seeing this a day late as my ISP has been having server > problems... > > I think the file could use a little more work but here it is anyway. > > http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=9-Oct-2004 > > Cheers, Late in commenting, but I really like this one. You opined that the colours weren't very spectacular that evening, but I rather like the muted colours - they seem to emphasize the cloud patterns. Love the composition, the way the shoreline curves right up to the camera, with all that detail of the rocks and everything in the foreground. This is typical of your gorgeous work - NZ is obviously a beautiful country, and you excel in capturing it. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Paw I do dogs to
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 09:59:26 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > www.caughtinmotion.com/paw/copper.jpg > > These were taken during our Thanksgiving weekend at Madawaska,just before the D2h > went > down > (sounds like a new MB as per Nikon:-( ) > > Copper.jpg(above) is a 3 year old chocolate lab. Very friendly and a good bird dog. > > www.caughtinmotion.com/paw/winni.jpg > > Winni.jpg(above) is a 2? year old BrittneySpaniel. Owner attempted some bird > training,then the > parents got hold of her,lol. Now shes a nifty pet with some recollection of > feathers.:-). > > These have been cropped to remove nasty humans in the shot. > > I know Coppers tonque is bright,but its the best i can get it.Sorry. > > Enjoy and comments welcome > > Dave(got some neat chrome shots of fall colours)Brooks > Hey, Dave, Both nice shots. I'd like the one of Copper best (somehow that pose looks more "noble"), but as you said, that tongue's too blown out. Too bad... I do like Winni as well. The way you captured it, it looks like a playful dog. Two really nice canine captures! thanks, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Prague PDML Meeting Pictures (very long)
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:07:10 -0700 (PDT), Gianfranco Irlanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I am, as usual, a bit late with my reply... I'm even later with my initial offereings. As usual, lovely work, Gianfranco. I think this is the first time I've seen a picture of Frantisek. It's nice to be able to put a face to the posts I see! He does look awfully young, though. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: DS
So my Spotty and ESII's are entirely surplus??? frank theriault wrote: On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:00:57 -0700, Keith Whaley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: More'n that! I have three, all by myself! Keith, I've got two working ones (plus one that needs a CLA to work). Between the two of us, we apparently have the market cornered... cheers, frank -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: DS
So my Spotty and ESII's are entirely surpluss??? frank theriault wrote: On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:00:57 -0700, Keith Whaley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: More'n that! I have three, all by myself! Keith, I've got two working ones (plus one that needs a CLA to work). Between the two of us, we apparently have the market cornered... cheers, frank -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: unsubscribe
Apparently not. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Collin Brendemuehl" Subject: unsubscribe You, of all people, should know better than that. William Robb -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: PAW: Ayuthaya, Thailand
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 23:13:22 +0200, Patrick Genovese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Shot this on Holiday in Thailand > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2804342 > > Camera MZ-5n, Tripod, exposure unrecorded, media Fuji Superia Reala 100. > Focal length approx 50mm > > thanks for comments - critique welcome > Terrific photo!! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: DS
Hey, I still use mine, (well occasionally anyway). William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: DS How many digital cameras that were already "obsolete" in 1999 are still be used now (5 years later)? Yes once the performance and price curves flatten out people will stick with their old digital cameras longer but I am not convinced that has occurred yet. How many Spotmatics are still in use? Like maybe 4? William Robb -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: I'm Outta Here
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 14:17:02 -0400, tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Guys, I think I'm done. I don't follow threads anymore, I don't contribute > much, and I just have no time. You'll be missed, tom. You're still gonna be doing the GFM thang, I hope? I owe you a pic of Tan and Cesar at GFM - one of these days... cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
RE: DS
There is a HUGE fundamental difference between film and (current) digital cameras that causes the digital cameras to have much shorter useful lives ( go obsolete faster than film cameras ). With film cameras the image quality isnt determined much at all by the camera ( especially if used manually). The image quality is determined almost entirely by the film, processing and lens. With a (current) digital camera however, the image quality is primarily determined by the camera (sensor) and to a lesser extent the lens (at this point). When you acknowledge the above it is quite obvious that a film camera is not going to go obsolete as fast as a (current) digital camera camera because bigger and better sensors in the future digital cameras will greatly improve the picture quality while using older film camera does not degrade the picture quality if you use newer films and processes and lenses greater resolution than the best and latest film (not necessarily new ones) That said, once the sensors get as good or better than the lenses, then the digital cameras will have much longer useful lives, but we are not there yet IMHO. Regarding the film cameras, digital is about to make the 35mm film format dead shortly but it isnt going to make the larger formats go away because there is only so much detail rendered by a 35mm format lens. Larger digital formats will need to be developed to match the quality of larger film formats before the larger film formats go away or become obsolete JCO
RE: RAW files: Browsing & batch conversion
Downloaded and installed the plugin. Once I re-scanned the folders it works fine. Don > -Original Message- > From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 6:47 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: RAW files: Browsing & batch conversion > > > have to install the digital camera RAW plugin, a free addon. > > Herb... > - Original Message - > From: "Don Sanderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 5:48 PM > Subject: RE: RAW files: Browsing & batch conversion > > > > Hey Mark, are you talking Pentax RAW files? > > I don't see that Thumbs Plus handles .PEF files at all. > >
Re: DS
frank theriault wrote: On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:00:57 -0700, Keith Whaley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: More'n that! I have three, all by myself! Keith, I've got two working ones (plus one that needs a CLA to work). Between the two of us, we apparently have the market cornered... cheers, frank Undoubtedly! I also have a new one coming in via eBay! And THIS one came with a fine SMC 200mm f/4 and yet another S-Tak 55mm f/1.8! Love it! Ah well. Little Christmases month by month... keith
Samsung 5MP camera phone will use Pentax camera module
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/041020/323/f4wod.html Paul Stregevsky
Re: I'm Outta Here
Welcome to the other side of the Potomac, Tom. I hope you get what's coming to you. :) Paul Stregevsky
Re: FA 35mm f/2 European prices please
Best I could find (in NL) tonight was 325 incl. VAT at www.geengeld.nl. In comparison, it's 381 at the normally very cheap www.kamera-express.nl. Z.
Re: DS
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:00:57 -0700, Keith Whaley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > More'n that! I have three, all by myself! > Keith, I've got two working ones (plus one that needs a CLA to work). Between the two of us, we apparently have the market cornered... cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: MZ-S discontinued?
Kodak's monthly report on sales shows that film sales, in terms of number of units sold, is down by more than 20% over this time last year, almost 1% faster than last month. indications are that Fuji's film sales are down about 18% compared to this time last year. single use cameras are also down. the 20% number seems to be steady across the board for all film manufacturers. Herb... - Original Message - From: "The Diabolical Dr Z" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 9:03 PM Subject: Re: MZ-S discontinued? > I don't know if the Dutch market is in any way representative for the rest > of the world, but if so, I guess this suggests that Pentax has declared not > just the MZ-S, but in fact all 35 mm film cameras, things of the past (as > predicted before by others on this list). Bummer.
RE: DS
Lots...there are plenty of us over at the M42, spotmatic, and manual SLR email lists, even a lot of newbies (people under 30) believe it or not. 35mm film cameras are not obsolete (yet) because you can still get modern film and processing for them (at this time). JCO -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 8:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DS - Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: DS > How many digital cameras that were already "obsolete" in > 1999 are still be used now (5 years later)? Yes once > the performance and price curves flatten out people will stick with > their old digital cameras longer but I am not convinced that has > occurred yet. How many Spotmatics are still in use? Like maybe 4? William Robb
Re: PAW: Ayuthaya, Thailand
Patrick Genovese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Shot this on Holiday in Thailand > >http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2804342 Now *that's* a wonderful photo. Looks like something out of one of the Lord of the Rings movies. Great work! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
RE: DS
I used 1999 because I was making the point of what 5 years means to digital cameras. 2009 digital cameras may just make the *istD obsolete if the resolution keeps increasing and prices keep falling like they have. If we have full frame and 20Mpixels for $500 in 2009 why would you stick with the *istD? You wouldn't, just like you wouldn't stick with an old 486SX computer even if it still worked fine when you can get a pentium 4 for only a few hundred dollars You can get plenty of nice recent glass for M42, Tamron most notably, they produced a lot of good stuff for adaptall2 which there is a M42 mount. If you want most modern glass the only way to go is canon because their AF mount is way bigger and better... There is a silver M400 battery available for spotmatics that works fine. the fact is that film cameras are not locked in in terms of capture like digital cameras are. If a spotmatic could only use 1964 vintage film & processing it would be obsolete, but it can use 2004 film/processing so its not. regarding cars, they buyers wouldn't buy 20 year paint jobs if they were available when the car is trashed at seven. I don't see how a stereos or comfort items like uphostery compares to durable finish. JCO -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 8:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DS - Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: DS > WRONG, the spotmatic isnt obsolete like the > 1999 vintage digital cameras are because it > still can use modern 2004 film, 1999 digital cameras > are stuck with crappy 1999 digital capture technology. > Can I buy new lenses for a Spotmatic? Well, no, I can't. Can I buy the correct (mercury) battery for it? Well, no, they outlawed them, I guess I can get them if I want to be a criminal. The istD, BTW, is not 1999 technology. I suspect it is closer to 2004 technology. > A huge part of the reason for the fine finishes on the > old SLRs was durability and aging immunity. You don't > need either with digital cameras because you wont > be using them in 40, 30, 20, 10, or probably even > 5 years Thats bullshit. As long as the image quality coming off the camera meets my needs, I will continue to use it. And because the camera has a nice fit and pleasing finish, I will enjoy using it. I give you another example to educate you. This example comes from the automotive industry. People tend to buy new cars fairly regularly, I think the average is every 7 years or so, and at that point they are devalued to the point of having almost no residual value, as compared to new. The common automobile is, therefor, almost a disposable commodity. Sort of like what you are saying DSLRs are. And yet people buy upgraded upholstery, nice stereos, bright clear coat paint finishes, fancy wheels and tyres, and all sorts of other niceties that make the thing a pleasure to look at and own. I like nice tools. They tend to be more pleasurable to use, and I am of the opinion that if you enjoy the tool you are using, you will use it more, and will probably also do nicer work with it, if for no other reason, you are in a better frame of mind. I expect your milage will vary, it generally seems to. William Robb
Re: DS
Mishka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >by what measure is it obsolete (apart from being discontinued by the >manufacturer)? In manufacturing, that *is* the definition of obsolete. At my last job, one of my responsibilities was dealing with part obsolescence; discrete semiconductors, crystals, oscillators, relays. The day manufacturing ceases on a part it's considered obsolete and I had to begin a search for a replacement. I don't miss that job :) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: MZ-S discontinued?
FWIW, I just checked Pentax' Dutch website, and there film SLRs are now not even mentioned anymore, except for the "product archive" section. The Dutch distributor's current price list only features the MZ-M, MZ-60 and *ist, and something tells me that's just while stocks last. In contrast, the *ist DS is now prominently featured on the site(and available in shops), with a MSRP of 999 incl. VAT. I don't know if the Dutch market is in any way representative for the rest of the world, but if so, I guess this suggests that Pentax has declared not just the MZ-S, but in fact all 35 mm film cameras, things of the past (as predicted before by others on this list). Bummer. Z.
Re: DS
More'n that! I have three, all by myself! keith whaley William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: DS How many digital cameras that were already "obsolete" in 1999 are still be used now (5 years later)? Yes once the performance and price curves flatten out people will stick with their old digital cameras longer but I am not convinced that has occurred yet. How many Spotmatics are still in use? Like maybe 4? William Robb
Re: DS
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: DS WRONG, the spotmatic isnt obsolete like the 1999 vintage digital cameras are because it still can use modern 2004 film, 1999 digital cameras are stuck with crappy 1999 digital capture technology. Can I buy new lenses for a Spotmatic? Well, no, I can't. Can I buy the correct (mercury) battery for it? Well, no, they outlawed them, I guess I can get them if I want to be a criminal. The istD, BTW, is not 1999 technology. I suspect it is closer to 2004 technology. A huge part of the reason for the fine finishes on the old SLRs was durability and aging immunity. You don't need either with digital cameras because you wont be using them in 40, 30, 20, 10, or probably even 5 years Thats bullshit. As long as the image quality coming off the camera meets my needs, I will continue to use it. And because the camera has a nice fit and pleasing finish, I will enjoy using it. I give you another example to educate you. This example comes from the automotive industry. People tend to buy new cars fairly regularly, I think the average is every 7 years or so, and at that point they are devalued to the point of having almost no residual value, as compared to new. The common automobile is, therefor, almost a disposable commodity. Sort of like what you are saying DSLRs are. And yet people buy upgraded upholstery, nice stereos, bright clear coat paint finishes, fancy wheels and tyres, and all sorts of other niceties that make the thing a pleasure to look at and own. I like nice tools. They tend to be more pleasurable to use, and I am of the opinion that if you enjoy the tool you are using, you will use it more, and will probably also do nicer work with it, if for no other reason, you are in a better frame of mind. I expect your milage will vary, it generally seems to. William Robb
Re: unsubscribe
- Original Message - From: "Collin Brendemuehl" Subject: unsubscribe You, of all people, should know better than that. William Robb
Re: DS
- Original Message - From: "Mishka" Subject: Re: DS by what measure is it obsolete (apart from being discontinued by the manufacturer)? You can no longer buy new lenses, nor batteries, nor is the repair industry offering much by way of support. You can't mount modern glass, since the mount is incompatable, and lets face it, the feature set of yer basic Spotmatic II is pretty basic (to be kind) of even the cheapest SLR. Just because one can still run film doesn't mean it isn't obsolete. When we were vacationing this year, we saw some very old cars (1920's vintage) on tour. I suppose that one could say that they aren't obsolete, since the owners are still able to buy gasoline. William Robb
Re: One Last Film Body Survey
- Original Message - From: "Bob Blakely" Subject: Re: One Last Film Body Survey If it doesn't have a exchangeable finders, it's just another camera. Heck, they could probably build something that would use LX finders too. I happen to like interchangable finders, it's one of the things I miss with the DSLR. William Robb
Re: DS
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: DS How many digital cameras that were already "obsolete" in 1999 are still be used now (5 years later)? Yes once the performance and price curves flatten out people will stick with their old digital cameras longer but I am not convinced that has occurred yet. How many Spotmatics are still in use? Like maybe 4? William Robb
Re: (LX pricing) RE: One Last Film Body Survey
- Original Message - From: "Jon M" Subject: (LX pricing) RE: One Last Film Body Survey What did the LX sell for when new anyway? I paid about $1600.00 (Can) with a viewfinder for the one I bought new in 1988. William Robb
Re: (LX pricing) RE: One Last Film Body Survey
Jon M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asked: > > It would be wonderful if you want to pay $3000.00 US > or so. No make that $4000.00. > > I guess I'll be forced to stick with my $250 LX then. > What did the LX sell for when new anyway? Interesting topic... In Italy they ranged, body+FA-1 finder, from ITL 1.650.000 to 5.000.000 during the period 1986-1997 (in US$ something like 1000 to 2500). I have a 1980 issue of a magazine with a hands on preview of the LX and a comparison to the Nikon F3; their supposition about the launch price was ITL 830.000 (around US$ 520). A couple of years ago I had a project in mind regarding exactly that, tracing the price variations of the LX over its life in the Italian market, with the proper exchange rate in US$. Ciao, Gianfranco = _ ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com
Re: I'm Outta Here
Will miss you, Tom. Best of wishes. Joe
Re: Prague PDML Meeting Pictures (very long)
Hi all, I am, as usual, a bit late with my reply... Thanks everybody for the kind comments. I would have liked to post more photos but I used all the photo.net quota... Few direct replies following: Paul, usually I look better than in the picture taken by Frantisek, but after a entire day spent walking around I guess I couldn't pretend to be a perfect model... :-) Dario, I don't know about the easy sex but the beautiful women are not rare at all in Prague (huge euphemism...) Joe, you are right about the RAW files. I prefer jpeg to have more room possible on a single card (I dont' have a portable hd yet). BTW, those shots were not manually balanced (something I usually do for a given situation), although I don't always want the pictures to be perfectly balanced. Markus, should I come up there to taste the Irlanda coffe? :-) Now I wish to have a cup! Where in Switzerland are you? Ciao, Gianfranco = _ ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com
Re: RAW files: Browsing & batch conversion
have to install the digital camera RAW plugin, a free addon. Herb... - Original Message - From: "Don Sanderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 5:48 PM Subject: RE: RAW files: Browsing & batch conversion > Hey Mark, are you talking Pentax RAW files? > I don't see that Thumbs Plus handles .PEF files at all.
Re: RAW files: Browsing & batch conversion
the preview of PEF files won't be right. they don't have the conversion tables needed for proper gamma and color balance. i've not relied on that anyway since it does the same for the other RAW file formats i use. i use the preview only for composition checking. Herb... - Original Message - From: "Leon Altoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 3:49 AM Subject: Re: RAW files: Browsing & batch conversion > I looked at Thumnbs plus several times during their beta testing and > the colour was always horrible. If they have improved it then that's > good. ACDC displayed the thumbnails of PEF files for me, but gave the > dimensions as half of the correct size. They both used so much > processor time that I gave up on both of them. I need a program for > previewing images not cataloging them.
Re: for Paul - a sample of a b/w inkjet print (with special gray ink) would be nice?
I have one for a few months now. It *drinks* the grey cartridges, even when printing color. In this time, I ran through 1 #58 and 1 #57, but something like 4 or 5 #59s. And I print mostly (90%) color. The cartridges are ~$20..30 (depends where you buy). The HP paper is also on the expensive side (I use their "photo premium plus", glossy and matte) But the BW prints come out really nice. Quite neutral and quite smooth. The real drawback is that it's 8x10 max. But it has, out of box, an option of russian menus -- which is kinda cool. best, mishka On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:02:17 -0500, Don Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The HP 7960 I just bought has the "Grey Photo" #59 cartridge available, > does a very nice job on BW and color prints. > Doesn't last very long, I've used 2 in 45 8.5x11 inch prints, > but at $20.00 per cartridge it's worth it for the quality. > I get them at the local Staples office supply store. > > Don
RE: RAW files: Browsing & batch conversion
On 20 Oct 2004 at 16:48, Don Sanderson wrote: > Hey Mark, are you talking Pentax RAW files? > I don't see that Thumbs Plus handles .PEF files at all. http://www.cerious.com/digicam_notes.shtml Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: I'm Outta Here
We'll miss your nice voice... Andre
RE: RAW files: Browsing & batch conversion
Thanks, downloading as we speak! Don > -Original Message- > From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 6:14 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: RAW files: Browsing & batch conversion > > > "Don Sanderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Hey Mark, are you talking Pentax RAW files? > >I don't see that Thumbs Plus handles .PEF files at all. > > It doesn't say so on their web site but I emailed their tech support and > they told me it does indeed handle PEF files: They pointed me to their > DigiCam RAW plug-in: > ftp://ftp.cerious.com/pub/cerious/tp_digicam14.exe > > It works! > > -- > Mark Roberts > Photography and writing > www.robertstech.com >
Re: DS
by what measure is it obsolete (apart from being discontinued by the manufacturer)? best, mishka > As an example, the Spotmatic line of cameras was rendered obsolete > some 30 years ago, but for some reason, people still try to find nice > ones with well preserved finishes. > > William Robb > >
Re: RAW files: Browsing & batch conversion
Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >"Don Sanderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Hey Mark, are you talking Pentax RAW files? >>I don't see that Thumbs Plus handles .PEF files at all. > >It doesn't say so on their web site but I emailed their tech support and >they told me it does indeed handle PEF files: They pointed me to their >DigiCam RAW plug-in: >ftp://ftp.cerious.com/pub/cerious/tp_digicam14.exe > >It works! BTW: ThumbsPlus will not only batch convert Pentax PEF files, it will also transfer requested meta-data from the PEF file to the TIFF (or JPEG). So all the TIFFs I just created *do* have my ISO setting embedded. Very cool. I also tried iView MediaPro, which is twice as expensive but very slick indeed. Much preferable as far as I'm concerned... except that it won't convert Pentax PEF files :( It will allow you to browse through your PEF images, but it won't do conversions. It does do conversions for Nikon and Canon RAW files (and Fuji, Kodak and Olympus). I'm hoping they add Pentax before too long - I just emailed them about this. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: for Paul - a sample of a b/w inkjet print (with special gray ink) would be nice?
Hi Markus, Of the seven cartridges in the standard Epson 2200 array, one is gray. This augments the standard black in making BW prints as well as improving shadow detail rendition in color prints. I have not yet tried a dedicated grayscale ink set. Scanning a BW inkjet print is somewhat pointless, because the values change. However, if you send me your values offlist, I'll mail you a small BW print from the 2200 with the standard inkset. Paul On Oct 20, 2004, at 6:24 PM, Markus Maurer wrote: Hi Paul would you mind showing me an example scan of an b/w print (preferable a portrait) with your different Epson inkjets models. I also would love to see the difference from a print with the normal black (and color) ink and the special gray ink set you mentioned some days ago, have you already made some experiments with that? I'm playing with the idea to get a inkjet just for /bw prints, are there special ink sets for any brand or only Epson and what printer and paper would you recommend for A4 max size? thanks Markus I'm quite satisfied with the Epson 3200. It does a great job on medium format and is adequate for most purposes with 35mm. I've even sold stock of 35mm pics that I scanned on the 3200, and I've made 12 x18 enlargements that look good.
Re: RAW files: Browsing & batch conversion
"Don Sanderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hey Mark, are you talking Pentax RAW files? >I don't see that Thumbs Plus handles .PEF files at all. It doesn't say so on their web site but I emailed their tech support and they told me it does indeed handle PEF files: They pointed me to their DigiCam RAW plug-in: ftp://ftp.cerious.com/pub/cerious/tp_digicam14.exe It works! -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
RE: for Paul - a sample of a b/w inkjet print (with special gray ink) would be nice?
The HP 7960 I just bought has the "Grey Photo" #59 cartridge available, does a very nice job on BW and color prints. Doesn't last very long, I've used 2 in 45 8.5x11 inch prints, but at $20.00 per cartridge it's worth it for the quality. I get them at the local Staples office supply store. Don > -Original Message- > From: Graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 5:40 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: for Paul - a sample of a b/w inkjet print (with special > gray ink) would be nice? > > > Some of the newer HP printer have special b$w ink cartridges > available from HP. > I have never seen those cartidges in a store though. > > -- > > Markus Maurer wrote: > > Hi Paul > > would you mind showing me an example scan of an b/w print (preferable a > > portrait) with your different Epson inkjets models. > > I also would love to see the difference from a print with the > normal black > > (and color) ink and the special gray ink > > set you mentioned some days ago, have you already made some > experiments with > > that? > > > > I'm playing with the idea to get a inkjet just for /bw prints, are there > > special ink sets for any > > brand or only Epson and what printer and paper would you > recommend for A4 > > max size? > > > > thanks > > Markus > > > > > > > > > >>I'm quite satisfied with the Epson 3200. It does a great job on > >>medium format > >>and is adequate for most purposes with 35mm. I've even sold stock > >>of 35mm pics > >>that I scanned on the 3200, and I've made 12 x18 enlargements > >>that look good. > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > graywolf > http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html > >
Re: (LX pricing) RE: One Last Film Body Survey
$500.00 to $600.00 if I remember correctly. (That didn't include a lens or finder, those were extra). Jon M wrote: It would be wonderful if you want to pay $3000.00 US or so. No make that $4000.00. I guess I'll be forced to stick with my $250 LX then. What did the LX sell for when new anyway? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: MZ-S discontinued?
but of course! and if you are at it, i would really want to understand how 6 million pixels (36M of information) can be grown to 24 (to get a 144M file). care to explain (i'll do my best to understand)? best, mishka On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 12:02:26 +0100, Steve Jolly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mishka wrote: > > in other words, i'll have to pay ~$2K and have an inferior system. how > > is that cool? > > oh, and if i were to shoot b&w, iwould have really great 2MP pixies > > (from which i will > > be able to make 144M files). wow. > > No, your b&w photos would still be 6MP. I don't think you've understood > the technology. > > S > >
Re: The word Quetaine gets a new dimension
>> So, fortunately, me using a Firefox with 99% adverts blocking spares >> me of the horror ;-) Another good point for Mozilla ;-) BW> That's a surprise. I would have expected only Apple to produce a browser which BW> won't display bad taste. Perhaps they thought anyone using IE wouldn't be mortally offended by the pictures ;-) limiting it thus might save them the lawsuits by relatives of deceased internet viewers... Good light! fra
Re: New Toy: Bulk Film Loader
Hi Alin, AF> that may get into the light brush and scratch the film. Also had AF> once problems with faulty DX contacts on reusable cartridges that AF> ruined several exposures. Fortunately, I had no scratches from bulk loading (only from bad developing). I guess perhaps I was lucky. AF> But the main reason I gave up to bulk roll film is price. Have a AF> look at B&H: the price difference per 135 film roll between prepack AF> roll and bulk roll is so thin it's not worth the hassle. That's surprising. At least here in Czechia bulk film was a lot cheaper than prepack (at least with some brands). Especially the locally made Czech film Foma (from which I admit only the iso 100 and iso 200 versions are good, the iso 400 and iso 800 were horrible, thus I don't use Foma because my standard B&W is 400 pushed to 800 or 1600...). Or Ilford was lot cheaper in bulk than packs. I thought similar situation was is Romania. I found a good way to use bulk film (although for some this might seem risky a bit) is to not use reloadable cassettes. I always had problems with light leaks with those. Now I just go to a clean minilab, gather their used cassettes (they don't throw them into the trash for people like me), and attach the film start to the short length of film protruding from the used cassette by means of magic tape. I haven't had a problem with scratched film so far, nor with light leaks. Unlike with reloadable cassettes. Good light! fra
Re: for Paul - a sample of a b/w inkjet print (with special gray ink) would be nice?
Some of the newer HP printer have special b$w ink cartridges available from HP. I have never seen those cartidges in a store though. -- Markus Maurer wrote: Hi Paul would you mind showing me an example scan of an b/w print (preferable a portrait) with your different Epson inkjets models. I also would love to see the difference from a print with the normal black (and color) ink and the special gray ink set you mentioned some days ago, have you already made some experiments with that? I'm playing with the idea to get a inkjet just for /bw prints, are there special ink sets for any brand or only Epson and what printer and paper would you recommend for A4 max size? thanks Markus I'm quite satisfied with the Epson 3200. It does a great job on medium format and is adequate for most purposes with 35mm. I've even sold stock of 35mm pics that I scanned on the 3200, and I've made 12 x18 enlargements that look good. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
Re: PAW: Ayuthaya, Thailand
Nice. The sky clouds slant correspons nicely with the staircase in front. Good photo. Frantisek
for Paul - a sample of a b/w inkjet print (with special gray ink) would be nice?
Hi Paul would you mind showing me an example scan of an b/w print (preferable a portrait) with your different Epson inkjets models. I also would love to see the difference from a print with the normal black (and color) ink and the special gray ink set you mentioned some days ago, have you already made some experiments with that? I'm playing with the idea to get a inkjet just for /bw prints, are there special ink sets for any brand or only Epson and what printer and paper would you recommend for A4 max size? thanks Markus > > I'm quite satisfied with the Epson 3200. It does a great job on > medium format > and is adequate for most purposes with 35mm. I've even sold stock > of 35mm pics > that I scanned on the 3200, and I've made 12 x18 enlargements > that look good. > >
Re: (LX pricing) RE: One Last Film Body Survey
In the UK at one point (1988ish), body only (no viewfinder or lens) - about £1650. Jon M wrote: It would be wonderful if you want to pay $3000.00 US or so. No make that $4000.00. I guess I'll be forced to stick with my $250 LX then. What did the LX sell for when new anyway?
Re: I'm Outta Here
Good luck Tom. btw: my partner still uses that Program Plus. So that's where I am, and in large part I have this list to thank. 7 years ago I had a Program Plus, a Bow Wow 135 Tak, and little idea of how to use them.
RE: PAW - "A River In Fiordland"
AH! Oh, were so sorry Mr Waller! But "reluctance" has already been used. Better luck next time! ;-) Don , > -Original Message- > From: Kenneth Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 4:22 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: PAW - "A River In Fiordland" > > > > > "---Sorry, I missed the first part of this thread. > Watts it all about?" > WW > > Your statement shows alot of reluctance on your part. > > Kenneth Waller > > --Original Message- > From: William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: PAW - "A River In Fiordland" > > > - Original Message - > From: "frank theriault" > Subject: Re: PAW - "A River In Fiordland" > > > > >> I think you'll meet with alot of resistance, > >> but then again you might get a charge out of it. > > > > Ken, > > > > With comments like that, your bias is showing... > > > > Sorry, I missed the first part of this thread. > Watts it all about? > WW > > > > > PeoplePC Online > A better way to Internet > http://www.peoplepc.com >
Re: PAW: Ayuthaya, Thailand
Beautiful photograph. The foreground elements give it balance. The sky is a real plus. And of course your subject matter is amazing. Great work. Paul On Oct 20, 2004, at 5:13 PM, Patrick Genovese wrote: Shot this on Holiday in Thailand http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2804342 Camera MZ-5n, Tripod, exposure unrecorded, media Fuji Superia Reala 100. Focal length approx 50mm thanks for comments - critique welcome Patrick
RE: One Last Film Body Survey
mike wilson wrote: > If that's what I think (Land Rover?) then it is a better > example than the other two mentioned. There is nothing as > good in most ways as a LR for the job it does. Same for the > LX. For both of them, minor tweaks would improve them but > everyone wants different tweaks. If you put _all_ the tweaks > on them, it would not be the same thing. Too heavy, too > complicated. The best bit about both of them is the modular > construction, so that the tweaks can be applied selectively. BUT > this is an expensive method of construction; labour intensive > and difficult to design properly. Therefore it is less > profitable than it could be. Therefore it doesn't get done. > In the beancounter manual, making less profit than you should > is the same (or maybe worse) than making a loss. > > The local brewery was making £6million a year nett profit. > That was deemed unacceptable, so it was closed with the loss > of 600 jobs. One more 6 and we would have had 666. I like > to think a committee of 6 beancounters was responsible. Yes, it's a Land-Rover so no surprise there. The LX has quite a few similarities with useful interchangeable parts and does the job. On both vehicles and cameras, manufacturers are at the mercy of beancounters who never understand the product. Malcolm
RE: RAW files: Browsing & batch conversion
Hey Mark, are you talking Pentax RAW files? I don't see that Thumbs Plus handles .PEF files at all. Don > -Original Message- > From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 8:47 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RAW files: Browsing & batch conversion > > > I've just installed the trial version of Thumbs Plus and I'm pretty > impressed so far. It allows me to sort RAW files by ISO setting (or any > of several other parameters) and does batch conversions to TIFF or JPEG > nicely. > > I also tried ACDSee. It requires an optional plug-in (which costs an > additional $39.00) to handle RAW files. The base version does display > thumbnails of RAW files but the color is all wonky so I'm not sure about > their RAW conversion. (You can evaluate a trial version of ACDSee itself > for free but you can't get the plug-in for evaluation so there's no way > to tell how good it is without plunking down your money.) > > The new version of Bibble (v4.0) is my favorite in terms of usability so > far, but it won't sort by ISO setting or other meta data (unless I've > just missed this option - always a possibility). > > Anyone have any other software suggestions that I should try before > spending my money? > > -- > Mark Roberts > Photography and writing > www.robertstech.com >
(LX pricing) RE: One Last Film Body Survey
> It would be wonderful if you want to pay $3000.00 US or so. No make that $4000.00. I guess I'll be forced to stick with my $250 LX then. What did the LX sell for when new anyway? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: PAW: Ayuthaya, Thailand
On 20/10/04, Patrick Genovese, discombobulated, unleashed: >http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2804342 > >Camera MZ-5n, Tripod, exposure unrecorded, media Fuji Superia Reala 100. >Focal length approx 50mm > >thanks for comments - critique welcome Stunning building. Stunning photo Pat, well done. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: MZ-S and batteries
I assume you have the battery grip... Some quesitons: 1. What NiMH batteries do you use i.e. ( mAh) ? 2. How many rolls of film do you shoot with a freshly charged set ? 3. What about the LR6 / LI Switch on the battery grip, what setting do you use and what difference does it make ? Tnx Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patrick Genovese wrote: I use an MZ-S plus battery grip an my only gripe with it it the battery consumption. Are there any solutions ? mods etc.. How about NIMH batteries, I know the manual says you should'nt run it off rechargeable batteries. I've run mine off of NiMH batts since day 1 (I preordered mine- so that's been awhile) and it works perfectly. Have had no problems, even in severe cold, with the backlight on, etc. -Ryan
Re: PAW - "A River In Fiordland"
"---Sorry, I missed the first part of this thread. Watts it all about?" WW Your statement shows alot of reluctance on your part. Kenneth Waller --Original Message- From: William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: PAW - "A River In Fiordland" - Original Message - From: "frank theriault" Subject: Re: PAW - "A River In Fiordland" >> I think you'll meet with alot of resistance, >> but then again you might get a charge out of it. > > Ken, > > With comments like that, your bias is showing... > Sorry, I missed the first part of this thread. Watts it all about? WW PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: DS
On 20/10/04, J. C. O'Connell, discombobulated, unleashed: >Who gives a flying $%#% what Nikon does? Since when >do pentax features or lack thereof get measured by >what NIKON does? The *istD is a Pentax bayonet mount camera >(I wont call it K mount because it isnt really) >and the features standard should be based on that, not Nikon >mount lenses and cameras... I take your point John, but Sylwek also has a point. If one manufacturer does not provide what (a) customer wants, then that customer will vote with his/her wallet. I'm neither ashamed nor proud to say that I did. With respect, Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: DS
Leon Altoff: My wife brought home a digital camera from her work the other day. A Kodak DC-50. It uses PCMCIA cards (still work), doesn't even manage 1 megapixel and has no preview screen. Oh, I had one of those at my work back then. Not a pleasurable experience. a totally bizarre shutter lag of several seconds. I had no extra memory card, so I could take some seven pictures at a time using the built in memory. Unloaded via a serial connection. Only used it at my office, to take occasional portraits of employees. anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/ med dagens bild och allt!
PAW: Ayuthaya, Thailand
Shot this on Holiday in Thailand http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2804342 Camera MZ-5n, Tripod, exposure unrecorded, media Fuji Superia Reala 100. Focal length approx 50mm thanks for comments - critique welcome Patrick
Re: One Last Film Body Survey
Hi, Malcolm Smith wrote: Pat White wrote: The MZ-S already has three of those four things. Twenty-five years ago, the LX was a great camera, but better cameras have been made since then. Would you want a brand-new 1980 Mercedes or Corvette (never mind the collector value)? Actually, yes. I have a specialist dealer putting together a vehicle for me now that is no longer available. Should have it in 6 or so weeks. If that's what I think (Land Rover?) then it is a better example than the other two mentioned. There is nothing as good in most ways as a LR for the job it does. Same for the LX. For both of them, minor tweaks would improve them but everyone wants different tweaks. If you put _all_ the tweaks on them, it would not be the same thing. Too heavy, too complicated. The best bit about both of them is the modular construction, so that the tweaks can be applied selectively. BUT this is an expensive method of construction; labour intensive and difficult to design properly. Therefore it is less profitable than it could be. Therefore it doesn't get done. In the beancounter manual, making less profit than you should is the same (or maybe worse) than making a loss. The local brewery was making £6million a year nett profit. That was deemed unacceptable, so it was closed with the loss of 600 jobs. One more 6 and we would have had 666. I like to think a committee of 6 beancounters was responsible. mike
Re: DS
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:55:51 -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: >I'd wager that many digital cameras that are already "obsolete" now will >still be in use in 5 years. My wife brought home a digital camera from her work the other day. A Kodak DC-50. It uses PCMCIA cards (still work), doesn't even manage 1 megapixel and has no preview screen. The picture format was not recognised by most of the picture viewers I have (Paintshop Pro worked though). It was bought in 1998/9 for an enormous amount of money. It has been sitting in a drawer for years and was used because the other digital camera was out being used. The picture quality was not bad given the low pixel count. Leon http://www.bluering.org.au http://www.bluering.org.au/leon
Re: One Last Film Body Survey
If it doesn't have a exchangeable finders, it's just another camera. Regards, Bob... From: "Collin Brendemuehl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If Pentax were to produce one last new film cameras, what would you want it to be? My choice would be something like the LX but cut cost by eliminating the removable finder and use a different mirror bumper system that doesn't need regular maintenance (sticky mirror). Add the other modes, "A" interface, and a spot meter & we're set. Probably a $500 body. But built to last a lifetime. Personally, the AF cameras of Pentax haven't excited me. They're either too plasticky (ZX/MZ) or too difficult to hold (PZ/Z). But I've not having held the MZ-S yet. Maybe a scaled-down, affordable MZ-S would be useful as well.
Re: MZ-S and batteries
Patrick Genovese wrote: I use an MZ-S plus battery grip an my only gripe with it it the battery consumption. Are there any solutions ? mods etc.. How about NIMH batteries, I know the manual says you should'nt run it off rechargeable batteries. I've run mine off of NiMH batts since day 1 (I preordered mine- so that's been awhile) and it works perfectly. Have had no problems, even in severe cold, with the backlight on, etc. -Ryan
Re: One Last Film Body Survey
A body that feels like the Super A with motor drive A attached, except in light weight aluminum or magnesium. Black, of course, with LX FB/FC type finder, DX, 5 frames/sec.,quiet advance, auto focus/manual with A mode. >If Pentax were to produce one last new film cameras, what would you want it to be? > >My choice would be something like the LX but cut cost by eliminating the removable finder and use a different mirror bumper system that doesn't need regular maintenance (sticky mirror). Add the other modes, "A" interface, and a spot meter & we're set. Probably a $500 body. But built to last a lifetime. > >Personally, the AF cameras of Pentax haven't excited me. They're either too plasticky (ZX/MZ) or too difficult to hold (PZ/Z). But I've not having held the MZ-S yet. Maybe a scaled-down, affordable MZ-S would be useful as well. > >Sincerely, > >C. Brendemuehl > >'Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.' Ronald Reagan > > > > > > >Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net > > > > > > >
MZ-S and batteries
I use an MZ-S plus battery grip an my only gripe with it it the battery consumption. Are there any solutions ? mods etc.. How about NIMH batteries, I know the manual says you should'nt run it off rechargeable batteries. Is that just coz of the lower voltage ? or are there other repercussions ? Tnx Patrick
Re: I'm Outta Here
Tom, You will be missed. Best of luck to you in your future endeavors! Bruce Wednesday, October 20, 2004, 11:17:02 AM, you wrote: t> Guys, I think I'm done. I don't follow threads anymore, I don't contribute t> much, and I just have no time. t> Before I head out, here's my new website - t> www.bigdayphoto.com t> Designed by our own Albano Garcia. Thanks Albano! t> Second, me and this guy - t> http://www.romanphotography.com t> Started this - t> http://www.documentaryassociates.com t> and got an office in Bethesda, MD along with my sister, who is a planner and t> florist. t> So that's where I am, and in large part I have this list to thank. 7 years t> ago I had a Program Plus, a Bow Wow 135 Tak, and little idea of how to use t> them. This list has been a major contributor to me becoming a professional t> photographer, and I want to say thanks. Particular thanks go to Don, Doug, t> Robb, Bruce D., Mark R., Bill, Aaron, Bill Cornett, Casselberry, Boz, t> Valentin, Cesar, Christian, Fred, Gianfranco, Mustarde, Cassino, Shel, t> Studdert, Geoff, Albano, Tan, and Frank. t> If anything ridiculously funny happens, let me know. :) t> Be nice to each other! t> tv t> --- t> Thomas Van Veen Photography t> www.bigdayphoto.com t> 301-758-3085
Re: MZ-S discontinued?
Pat White wrote: No more top-of-the-line film cameras? How about the new N***n F6? Also, I believe C***n's still happily producing the EOS-1V. No, no! They were speaking of TOL _Pentax_ cameras, not pretenders to the throne. Pat White keith whaley
