Re: Tsunami

2005-01-02 Thread Lawrence Kwan
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In the meantime US tax dollars are providing 375 million dollars of aid. 
That's almost two dollars per person. Not a bad number by any count.
True.  But CNN's Anderson Cooper also added that even the $ amount sounded 
large, to put it in perspective, that's about the same amount of money 
that each of the 4 US cities (he mentioned Phoenix, Washington and two 
others) planned to spend to build sport stadiums in the next 5 years.

--
--Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vex.net/~lawrence --
--Tungsten T3 Enhanced DIA KeyboardNokia Ringtone Convertor--


RE: Tsunami

2005-01-02 Thread Jens Bladt
375 million USD is still a lot of money. I just hope teh aid gets there in
time!

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Lawrence Kwan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 2. januar 2005 09:47
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Tsunami


On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In the meantime US tax dollars are providing 375 million dollars of aid.
 That's almost two dollars per person. Not a bad number by any count.

True.  But CNN's Anderson Cooper also added that even the $ amount sounded
large, to put it in perspective, that's about the same amount of money
that each of the 4 US cities (he mentioned Phoenix, Washington and two
others) planned to spend to build sport stadiums in the next 5 years.


--
--Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vex.net/~lawrence --
--Tungsten T3 Enhanced DIA KeyboardNokia Ringtone Convertor--




RE: Tsunami

2005-01-02 Thread Jens Bladt
In total the aid for asia (yesterday) from all over the world has reached 2
billion USD (2,005,359,780 US Dollar).

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 2. januar 2005 10:20
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: RE: Tsunami


375 million USD is still a lot of money. I just hope teh aid gets there in
time!

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Lawrence Kwan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 2. januar 2005 09:47
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Tsunami


On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In the meantime US tax dollars are providing 375 million dollars of aid.
 That's almost two dollars per person. Not a bad number by any count.

True.  But CNN's Anderson Cooper also added that even the $ amount sounded
large, to put it in perspective, that's about the same amount of money
that each of the 4 US cities (he mentioned Phoenix, Washington and two
others) planned to spend to build sport stadiums in the next 5 years.


--
--Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vex.net/~lawrence --
--Tungsten T3 Enhanced DIA KeyboardNokia Ringtone Convertor--






Re: PUG Favourites for 2004

2005-01-02 Thread Cotty
On 1/1/05, Fred Widall, discombobulated, unleashed:

There are so many excellent photographs published each month but these are
the ones which especially caught my eye.

Jan - Animals - Maya and Alex by  Wendy Beard, Canada
Feb - Wet - Moss by  Jostein Oksne, Norway
Mar - Portrait - Vix, Oxford, 2004 by  Cotty, UK
Apr - Curved - Galleria Umberto I by  Gianfranco Irlanda, Italy
May - Environment - Pioneer Barn by  Harald Rust, USA
Jun - Cliche -  Aa by  Wendy Beard, Canada
Jul - Vacation - Best Car in Town by  Jan van Wijk, Netherlands
Aug - BW II - King Draco by  Ryan Lee, Australia
Sep - Mystery - Ready for the Ceremonial by  Gianfranco Irlanda, Italy
Oct - Transport - Evening at Mopti by  Joseph Tainter, USA
Nov - Red - So Ya Wanted Sumthin Red... by  Kenneth Waller, USA
Dec - Trees - YAC - Yet Another Cypress by  Bruce Dayton, USA

Wendy and Gianfranco tying in the lead! ;-)

Thanks for the honourable mention.



Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Tsunami

2005-01-02 Thread Chan Yong Wei
I think one of the significant concerns is whether or not all this
money/aid gets distributed intelligently and rapidly. Already I've
come across reports of certain villages in Thailand/Sri Lanka
receiving overwhelming aid, and yet others being left more or less
alone in their need.

But at the same time I don't believe it is impossible to give too
much; hopefully any surplus cash will go towards funding an
early-warning system for the Indian ocean.


On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 10:41:44 +0100, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In total the aid for asia (yesterday) from all over the world has reached 2
 billion USD (2,005,359,780 US Dollar).
 
 Jens Bladt
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
 
 Jens Bladt
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
 
 -Oprindelig meddelelse-
 Fra: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sendt: 2. januar 2005 10:20
 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Emne: RE: Tsunami
 
 
 375 million USD is still a lot of money. I just hope teh aid gets there in
 time!
 
 Jens Bladt
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
 
 -Oprindelig meddelelse-
 Fra: Lawrence Kwan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sendt: 2. januar 2005 09:47
 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Emne: Re: Tsunami
 
 On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  In the meantime US tax dollars are providing 375 million dollars of aid.
  That's almost two dollars per person. Not a bad number by any count.
 
 True.  But CNN's Anderson Cooper also added that even the $ amount sounded
 large, to put it in perspective, that's about the same amount of money
 that each of the 4 US cities (he mentioned Phoenix, Washington and two
 others) planned to spend to build sport stadiums in the next 5 years.
 
 --
 --Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vex.net/~lawrence --
 --Tungsten T3 Enhanced DIA KeyboardNokia Ringtone Convertor--
 




Re: First PAW of 2005

2005-01-02 Thread Jon Glass
I was admiring that image earlier! (I'm a sucker for anything 
trainish.) Full of life and youth! It would be uncharitable to saying 
negative about it. It's just perfect the way it is. :-)

(and strangely enough, on the WA New page, your image is right next 
to mine! strange coincidence) :-)

On Jan 2, 2005, at 5:47 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
Yesterday we had rather summer weather - +26C at midday. So here is a
shot for you:
http://www.webaperture.com/gallery/photos/54189
--
-Jon Glass
Krakow, Poland
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: PESO New Year's Day Walkaround

2005-01-02 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Paul ...

Interesting perspective.  A little unconventional but it works pretty well.
Thanks for the idea!

Shel 




 We had some decent light today, so I walked down the street to the marsh,
 hoping to see some birds. I usually take the A 400/5.6 and a tripod or
 monopod on such occasions, but I was feeling lazy, so I mounted the FA
 80-320/4.5-5.6. The birds must have all had hangovers, because they were
in
 hiding, but this squirrel kept watching me. Looking at his girth, I'd bet
 he's been fed pretty well by humans. He wouldn't come close, but he wasn't
 totally camera shy either. Here's a handheld shot at 320mm on the *istD.
The
 stop is 5.6, the shutter speed 1/250 at iso 400. The fov is, of course,
 equivelant to a 480mm lens on a 35mm film camera.  This isn't a great
lens,
 but it's a lot of fun for walkarounds where a long reach is a good thing.
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3000223size=lg






Re: PESO New Year's Day Walkaround

2005-01-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Jens.
On Jan 2, 2005, at 1:54 AM, Jens Bladt wrote:
Brilliant shot. To me this is what photographing is about - getting 
the shot
just right!
Regards

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 1. januar 2005 22:04
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: PESO New Year's Day Walkaround
We had some decent light today, so I walked down the street to the 
marsh,
hoping to see some birds. I usually take the A 400/5.6 and a tripod or
monopod on such occasions, but I was feeling lazy, so I mounted the FA
80-320/4.5-5.6. The birds must have all had hangovers, because they 
were in
hiding, but this squirrel kept watching me. Looking at his girth, I'd 
bet
he's been fed pretty well by humans. He wouldn't come close, but he 
wasn't
totally camera shy either. Here's a handheld shot at 320mm on the 
*istD. The
stop is 5.6, the shutter speed 1/250 at iso 400. The fov is, of course,
equivelant to a 480mm lens on a 35mm film camera.  This isn't a great 
lens,
but it's a lot of fun for walkarounds where a long reach is a good 
thing.
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3000223size=lg





Re: PESO:piss off(ten)

2005-01-02 Thread brooksdj
Hi Markus.
I think this is a very good shot.
You have captured a lot of creative juices here.

Dave  

 
 Late in this summer, I visited one of the alternative centers of culture,
 the rote (red) Fabrik at lake Zurich.
 I had to be careful not to be misunderstood when I took this photo, so you
 will not see action on it :-)
 
 Warning - not for the very sensible - real men only ;-)
 Pentax SFXn, Tokina 28-70mm, Pentax AF280T, Agfa ISO200
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2985078size=lg (picture size is
 138KB)
 
 
 
 
 
 greetings
 Markus
 
 






RE: PESO New Year's Day Walkaround

2005-01-02 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Paul, I took another look at the pic ... meant to ask about the purple
fringing.  Is that chromatic aberration or something else.  It really makes
the lens far less useful ...

Shel 

  http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3000223size=lg




Re: PESO: Motion blur

2005-01-02 Thread brooksdj
Hi Juan.
I thought i had commented on this,but its still in my inbox,so i probably did 
not.

However,..i like this one.
What i like is the woman,centre point of the photo,is not to blurred,but not to 
sharp
either.
If her face had of been sharper, it would have really been dramatic,but i 
realize how hard
that is to 
achive.(as in recent TOPDML discussion on motion shots.)
I like what you have done with BW conversions.
I'm now a fan.g

Dave(waiting for the freezing rain to stop so he can use his D) Brooks

 PTO (picture too often)
 
 At risk of abusing my welcome here, another picture, from todays walk:
 
 http://www.jbuhler.com/blog/archives/0146.html
 
 ist D, A35-70/4, 1/15s at f9 and ISO400. It was bright, but I wanted
 the slow shutter speed.
 
 
 I converted this one to BW using the action Rob Studdert posted here
 on the phun with photoshop thread last week. Got rid of the sepia
 effect and toned down the opacity of the halation and film curve
 layers. I don't know, the slight blur helps the image a bit I think.
 
 Thanks Rob, BTW.
 
 j
 
 
 -- 
 Juan Buhler
 http://www.jbuhler.com
 blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog
 






Re: PAW: A Christmas Visitor

2005-01-02 Thread brooksdj
Nice shot Kenneth

Its not to often one gets one of these in his backyard.
I thought a more tighter shot might have been better,but on second glance think 
its olk
this way to.
Shows more of the habitat this way.

Optio series seem to produce decent pictures.

I shot some of these birds at a demo of birds of prey this fall. Fantastic 
creature.

Dave Brooks 

 Please check out
 
 http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html
 
 Taken with Optio S. (Thru Glass door wall)
 
 Comments: Yea, Nay or otherwise.
 
 Thanks in advance for looking  commenting.
 
 
 Kenneth Waller
 
 






Re: Peso: Tree Ornament

2005-01-02 Thread brooksdj
Nice ornament Bill.

Nice job on the flash exposure. The all white face could be a problem,but the 
Optio seemes
to have 
done a good job.

Dave  

 
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/peso/ornament1.html
 
 A couple of our friends had a cottage industry creating porcelain 
 ornaments.
 This is one of them.
 Shot with the Optio 750, 1/125sec at f4.6, using the built in flash.
 
 William Robb 
 
 






Re: Banff and Lake Louise

2005-01-02 Thread Herb Chong
yes. algae for pink and just plain ice for blue and turquoise.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 1:23 AM
Subject: RE: Banff and Lake Louise


 Very nice photographs. I couldn't help noticing a pink and turquoise
cast
 in the icy parts of some of the shots. Is this authentic?




Re: Banff and Lake Louise

2005-01-02 Thread Herb Chong
the last few were also taken near sunset.

Herb



Re: PESO: Candy

2005-01-02 Thread brooksdj
Some very nice shots here Andy.

I like what you have done with the BW images.

Dave  

 This is a set of photos taken on 
Sunday at a studio 
session with my
 friend, Candy.
 Lovely girl, isn't it? ^_^
 Photos taken with *istDs, FA100/2.8, FA50/1.7, FA28/2.8 and
 DA18-55/3.5-5.6 in JPEG *** mode
 All photos are manipulated by Paint Shop Pro 8.01
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/yschang/sets/64571/
 
 Happy holidays!
 
 Andy
 
 
 
 






Re: Eyecup for Pentax SF1

2005-01-02 Thread brooksdj
Did you get a reply Bill.
I have one here at the house if you still need the measurments.

Dave 

 Could someone with one of these cameras 
please 
measure the 
 dimensiones of the eyepiece and send them to me?
 I am trying to find an eyecup that will fit one of these cameras.
 Thanks
 
 William Robb 
 
 






Re: PESO: Blue Cocktail Two

2005-01-02 Thread brooksdj
I must have missed the first version.:-)

Interesting shot. I like the density(if thats a correct word) of the blue,with 
the touches
of light on some 
of the edges.
Is this all from the gels,or some PS magic.??

What is the glass sitting on. Looks like blue jellovbg(not trying to be rude 
with the
jello comment)

Dave Brooks

 Here's another shot from the same shoot. Two 
flash 
units with blue gels 
 on both. *ist D and the SMC Pentax 135/2.5.
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2991395size=lg
 






Re: PESO New Year's Day Walkaround

2005-01-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
It's probably chromatic aberration. It's most evident in this kind of 
shot, where the background is extremely bright. I corrected it somewhat 
in the RAW conversion, but couldn't eliminate it completely. I think 
even my A 400/5.6 would show some CA with this kind of background and 
minimal depth of field.

On Jan 2, 2005, at 8:58 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Paul, I took another look at the pic ... meant to ask about the purple
fringing.  Is that chromatic aberration or something else.  It really 
makes
the lens far less useful ...

Shel
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3000223size=lg




RE: PESO New Year's Day Walkaround

2005-01-02 Thread brooksdj
Decent shot Paul. 
Seems the 80-320 gives farily good sharpness,at least on my humble Adobe 
corrected
only,monitor. 
g
The bit of purple fringe is a tiny bit distracting but at the same times adds a 
bit of
funky to it. :-)

Do you find this lens does this alot,or just certain backgrounds and or focal 
lengths. I
would like to add 
1-2 more AF lenses for the D.

Dave


  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
: PESO New Year's Day Walkaround
 
 
 We had some decent light today, so I walked down the street to the marsh,
 hoping to see some birds. I usually take the A 400/5.6 and a tripod or
 monopod on such occasions, but I was feeling lazy, so I mounted the FA
 80-320/4.5-5.6. The birds must have all had hangovers, because they were in
 hiding, but this squirrel kept watching me. Looking at his girth, I'd bet
 he's been fed pretty well by humans. He wouldn't come close, but he wasn't
 totally camera shy either. Here's a handheld shot at 320mm on the *istD. The
 stop is 5.6, the shutter speed 1/250 at iso 400. The fov is, of course,
 equivelant to a 480mm lens on a 35mm film camera.  This isn't a great lens,
 but it's a lot of fun for walkarounds where a long reach is a good thing.
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3000223size=lg
 
 
 






Re: PAW PESO - While Walking Through Golden Gate Park One Afternoon

2005-01-02 Thread brooksdj
For someone who does not like the term 'Street Photoraphy',sure does a good job 
of
it.vbg

It gives me the feeling they are trying to get rid of their shadows. Nice one 
even if it
was the wrong 
lens.LOL

Dave Brooks

 
http://home.earthlink.net/~pdml-pics/ji-18.html
 
 Just a quick grab shot - no time to focus or compose as it was but a
 fleeting moment.  Even had the wrong lens on the camera, but what the heck
  here it is for better or worse.
 
 
 Shel 
 
 






Re: PESO New Year's Day Walkaround

2005-01-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Paul Stenquist
Subject: Re: PESO New Year's Day Walkaround


It's probably chromatic aberration. It's most evident in this kind 
of shot, where the background is extremely bright. I corrected it 
somewhat in the RAW conversion, but couldn't eliminate it 
completely. I think even my A 400/5.6 would show some CA with this 
kind of background and minimal depth of field.
I get the same effect with my Tokina SD 400mm/5.6, and with my Tamron 
300mm/5.6.
These two lenses have proven over time to be excellent performers on 
film cameras, but have proven to be less than stellar on the digital.
One of the concepts I rather like about the small format sensor is 
the longer reach of telephoto lenses, so to have my telephotos 
relegated to the digital scrap heap is dissapointing.
Interestingly, my Tokina 80-200/2.8 is extremely good on the istD.

William Robb 




Re: PESO Mr Whippy, it's serious business

2005-01-02 Thread brooksdj
Very lovely shots Rob.

Good to see the D can handle stuff like this.

Man i gotta get out more.LOL

Dave   

 A seasonal occurrence in my locale, captured 
tonight:
 
 http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/IMGP9481.jpg
 http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/IMGP9473.jpg
 http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/IMGP9460.jpg
 
 Tech: *ist D, ISO 800, Tungsten WB, comp -0.7EV with A16/2.8 Fisheye 
 1/30-1/60 
 at f2.8 on a monopod support. Converted to rectilinear view using PTLens.
 
 Comments and questions welcome.
 
 Cheers and the best of seasons greetings to all my fellow PDMLers,
 
 
 Rob Studdert
 HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
 Tel +61-2-9554-4110
 UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
 Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
 






Re: Eyecup for Pentax SF1

2005-01-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Eyecup for Pentax SF1


Did you get a reply Bill.
I have one here at the house if you still need the measurments.

Yes please Dave.
Thanks
Bill


Re: PESO New Year's Day Walkaround

2005-01-02 Thread John Whittingham
 It's probably chromatic aberration. It's most evident in this kind 
 of shot, where the background is extremely bright. I corrected it 
 somewhat in the RAW conversion, but couldn't eliminate it 
 completely. I think even my A 400/5.6 would show some CA with this 
 kind of background and minimal depth of field.

I'm not entirely sure it's CA the minimal depth of field seems more the 
culprit but obviously unavoidable at 320mm. It would be interesting to know 
just exactly where the camera chose to focus or was the shot manually focused?

Would it be better with a film camera?!

John



-- Original Message ---
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 10:02:13 -0500
Subject: Re: PESO New Year's Day Walkaround

 It's probably chromatic aberration. It's most evident in this kind 
 of shot, where the background is extremely bright. I corrected it 
 somewhat in the RAW conversion, but couldn't eliminate it 
 completely. I think even my A 400/5.6 would show some CA with this 
 kind of background and minimal depth of field.
 
 On Jan 2, 2005, at 8:58 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 
  Paul, I took another look at the pic ... meant to ask about the purple
  fringing.  Is that chromatic aberration or something else.  It really 
  makes
  the lens far less useful ...
 
  Shel
 
  http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3000223size=lg
 
 
--- End of Original Message ---



Re: PESO - A Walk in the Woods

2005-01-02 Thread brooksdj
Does not look as misty as it does here today(freezing rain)g

I really like the two pictures that you used the fence as framing. (I like 
fences,among
other things lol) 
and the first tree/sunset shot. Lovely silloette on the tree.

Do i read correctly as in you have the 1D or is it the iD mkII. I'd like to 
hear your
comments on it, off 
list, Cotty. I also have a few Mac questions i'll get to soon to.

Dave Brooks 

 I'm not working today and hey I 
actually got off my butt 
and went for a
 walk. A wet and misty morning had given way to a bright but cold
 afternoon - sunset at 4.30pm or thereabouts and the light was kind to me.
 1D with 70-200 on shoulder, K15 and A*85 in pockets. I haven't submitted
 to the coming PUG, so here's a tree or two.
 
 http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/photoessays/essays/woods.html
 
 
 
 
 Cheers,
   Cotty
 
 
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Re: Happy New Year

2005-01-02 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 10:07:46 +1000, John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Happy New Year to all - we toasted it with a kiss, a Sempe Armagnac and a
 Bailey's (respectively!)

I toasted with beer, the proletarian that I am.  No bourgeois Champers
or Scotches for this boy!  g

It was a premium (so they call it at the beer store) Sleeman's Cream
Ale (it was all that was in the fridge at the party I was at),
however.

cheers,
frank

-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO New Year's Day Walkaround

2005-01-02 Thread John Whittingham
 I get the same effect with my Tokina SD 400mm/5.6, and with my 
 Tamron 300mm/5.6. These two lenses have proven over time to be 
 excellent performers on film cameras, but have proven to be less 
 than stellar on the digital.

I think I'll be keeping at least one film camera for the time being based on 
that information, I really can't do without a 300/400mm lens.

John


-- Original Message ---
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 09:31:35 -0600
Subject: Re: PESO New Year's Day Walkaround

 - Original Message - 
 From: Paul Stenquist
 Subject: Re: PESO New Year's Day Walkaround
 
  It's probably chromatic aberration. It's most evident in this kind 
  of shot, where the background is extremely bright. I corrected it 
  somewhat in the RAW conversion, but couldn't eliminate it 
  completely. I think even my A 400/5.6 would show some CA with this 
  kind of background and minimal depth of field.
 
 I get the same effect with my Tokina SD 400mm/5.6, and with my 
 Tamron 300mm/5.6. These two lenses have proven over time to be 
 excellent performers on film cameras, but have proven to be less 
 than stellar on the digital. One of the concepts I rather like about 
 the small format sensor is the longer reach of telephoto lenses, so 
 to have my telephotos relegated to the digital scrap heap is dissapointing.
 Interestingly, my Tokina 80-200/2.8 is extremely good on the istD.
 
 William Robb
--- End of Original Message ---



Re: Tsunami

2005-01-02 Thread Graywolf
I just hope it gets to those who need it. Being rather cynical, I rather doubt 
it will.

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---
Jens Bladt wrote:
375 million USD is still a lot of money. I just hope teh aid gets there in
time!
Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Lawrence Kwan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 2. januar 2005 09:47
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: Tsunami
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In the meantime US tax dollars are providing 375 million dollars of aid.
That's almost two dollars per person. Not a bad number by any count.

True.  But CNN's Anderson Cooper also added that even the $ amount sounded
large, to put it in perspective, that's about the same amount of money
that each of the 4 US cities (he mentioned Phoenix, Washington and two
others) planned to spend to build sport stadiums in the next 5 years.
--
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--Tungsten T3 Enhanced DIA KeyboardNokia Ringtone Convertor--



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OT - any Palm users on the list ?

2005-01-02 Thread Cotty
Any Palm users on the list? Can you recommend any Palm (5.2) software for
playing MP3s? Please contact me off list, thanks.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: First PAW of 2005

2005-01-02 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 06:47:56 +0200, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!
 
 Yesterday we had rather summer weather - +26C at midday. So here is a
 shot for you:
 
 http://www.webaperture.com/gallery/photos/54189

I must be honest, Boris, the photo doesn't really move me.  To me, it
is like a family vacation snapshot or something.  The expression on
the boy's face is saying something, but I'm not sure what.  From that
angle, it's hard to see his hand which appears to be calling for the
train to stop.  The train is partially obscured by weeds.  There are
some blue and green blocks in the background that I'm not sure what
they are and I find them distracting.

The timing WRT the train coming into the frame was good, though.  And,
the framing in terms of the boy and the train is good, too.  In fact,
the framing is very good.  But, not enough to save the photo for me,
I'm afraid.

I always feel better saying less than nice things about a photo when I
see that several others like it, because then I think that the photo
may be a good one, and it's just me that doesn't like it.  But, as
always, I think it's better to say what I think about something than
to say nothing.  Hope you don't mind, Boris.

cheers,
frank




-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO New Year's Day Walkaround

2005-01-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Dave. The lens doesn't show any significant CA under normal 
conditions. Out of focus branches against a sky are a worst case 
scenario for any lens. I find it's quite good under most circumstances.
Paul
On Jan 2, 2005, at 10:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Decent shot Paul.
Seems the 80-320 gives farily good sharpness,at least on my humble 
Adobe corrected
only,monitor.
g
The bit of purple fringe is a tiny bit distracting but at the same 
times adds a bit of
funky to it. :-)

Do you find this lens does this alot,or just certain backgrounds and 
or focal lengths. I
would like to add
1-2 more AF lenses for the D.

Dave

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
: PESO New Year's Day Walkaround

We had some decent light today, so I walked down the street to the 
marsh,
hoping to see some birds. I usually take the A 400/5.6 and a tripod or
monopod on such occasions, but I was feeling lazy, so I mounted the FA
80-320/4.5-5.6. The birds must have all had hangovers, because they 
were in
hiding, but this squirrel kept watching me. Looking at his girth, I'd 
bet
he's been fed pretty well by humans. He wouldn't come close, but he 
wasn't
totally camera shy either. Here's a handheld shot at 320mm on the 
*istD. The
stop is 5.6, the shutter speed 1/250 at iso 400. The fov is, of 
course,
equivelant to a 480mm lens on a 35mm film camera.  This isn't a great 
lens,
but it's a lot of fun for walkarounds where a long reach is a good 
thing.
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3000223size=lg







Re: First PAW of 2005

2005-01-02 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 06:47:56 +0200, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 http://www.webaperture.com/gallery/g/si3634
 
 I would very much appreciate opinion of list's street shooters on this
 and these :).

I ~really~ like the photos in this album!  (except Thou Shalt Not
Pass, of course g).  Despite a few niggling little exposure
difficulties, and less than perfect framing (in the case of Wizard),
you've captured some really good moments in all of these shots! 
There's some emotion that I really like in each of them.  I think
these are much stronger than your PAW.  Oddly, your last PAW (IIRC),
Contemplation, also in this gallery, is my least favourite in the
gallery after Thou Shalt Not Pass.

I think we must have different tastes in photos, Boris!  vbg

cheers,
frank
-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



RE: OT - any Palm users on the list ?

2005-01-02 Thread Don Sanderson
I still have PALM OS4.1 so I don't do MP3's much.
But http://www.palmgear.com has *everything*.
Most have free trials too.
Here's some of their MP3 stuff:
http://tinyurl.com/4br43

http://www.handango.com is another good site.

Don

 -Original Message-
 From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 9:53 AM
 To: pentax list
 Subject: OT - any Palm users on the list ?
 
 
 Any Palm users on the list? Can you recommend any Palm (5.2) software for
 playing MP3s? Please contact me off list, thanks.
 
 
 
 
 Cheers,
   Cotty
 
 
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Re: First PAW of 2005

2005-01-02 Thread boris
Hi!

 I must be honest, Boris, the photo doesn't really move me.

.. snipped ..

 I always feel better saying less than nice things about a photo when I
 see that several others like it, because then I think that the photo
 may be a good one, and it's just me that doesn't like it.  But, as
 always, I think it's better to say what I think about something than
 to say nothing.  Hope you don't mind, Boris.

I always feel even better reading what you have to say. I'd rather you told what
you really had to say than just something polite and vague...

I definitely don't mind.

I hope others will say whatever they have to say and I will make one more step
in my learning curve :).

Boris

(who's going to be selling most of his surplus film real soon)



Re: PAW PESO - While Walking Through Golden Gate Park One Afternoon

2005-01-02 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 10:20:35 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 For someone who does not like the term 'Street Photoraphy',sure does a good 
 job of
 it.vbg snip

I don't see any streets in the frame.  vbg

-frank



-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO New Year's Day Walkaround

2005-01-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
I had the *istD set on center spot autofocus, so I fixed the focus on 
the critter, then reframed the shot. I'm not sure that this phenomena 
should be described as CA either. Every long lens I've ever used 
produces some strange bokeh with extremely out of focus branches 
against a bright sky. I don't find it objectionable. In fact, I find it 
quite interesting.
Paul
On Jan 2, 2005, at 10:36 AM, John Whittingham wrote:

It's probably chromatic aberration. It's most evident in this kind
of shot, where the background is extremely bright. I corrected it
somewhat in the RAW conversion, but couldn't eliminate it
completely. I think even my A 400/5.6 would show some CA with this
kind of background and minimal depth of field.
I'm not entirely sure it's CA the minimal depth of field seems more the
culprit but obviously unavoidable at 320mm. It would be interesting to 
know
just exactly where the camera chose to focus or was the shot manually 
focused?

Would it be better with a film camera?!
John

-- Original Message ---
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 10:02:13 -0500
Subject: Re: PESO New Year's Day Walkaround
It's probably chromatic aberration. It's most evident in this kind
of shot, where the background is extremely bright. I corrected it
somewhat in the RAW conversion, but couldn't eliminate it
completely. I think even my A 400/5.6 would show some CA with this
kind of background and minimal depth of field.
On Jan 2, 2005, at 8:58 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Paul, I took another look at the pic ... meant to ask about the 
purple
fringing.  Is that chromatic aberration or something else.  It really
makes
the lens far less useful ...

Shel
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3000223size=lg

--- End of Original Message ---



Re: PAW PESO - While Walking Through Golden Gate Park One Afternoon

2005-01-02 Thread Peter J. Alling
They're under the lake...
frank theriault wrote:
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 10:20:35 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

For someone who does not like the term 'Street Photoraphy',sure does a good job of
it.vbg snip
   

I don't see any streets in the frame.  vbg
-frank

 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




LTM on Pentax Screw Mount

2005-01-02 Thread JP M
Is this an old question?

I'd like to use my LTM lenses on a K1000.  Has anyone
done this successfully, or unsuccessfully?

If it's a good idea what's a source for a good LTM to
Pentax Screw Mount adapter?

Thanks,
Jeff

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Independent Sales Agent for AFLAC
Cell:  201 317-1655



Re: PESO New Year's Day Walkaround

2005-01-02 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 21:03:41 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We had some decent light today, so I walked down the street to the marsh, 
 hoping to see some birds. I usually take the A 400/5.6 and a tripod or 
 monopod on such occasions, but I was feeling lazy, so I mounted the FA 
 80-320/4.5-5.6. The birds must have all had hangovers, because they were in 
 hiding, but this squirrel kept watching me. Looking at his girth, I'd bet 
 he's been fed pretty well by humans. He wouldn't come close, but he wasn't 
 totally camera shy either. Here's a handheld shot at 320mm on the *istD. The 
 stop is 5.6, the shutter speed 1/250 at iso 400. The fov is, of course, 
 equivelant to a 480mm lens on a 35mm film camera.  This isn't a great lens, 
 but it's a lot of fun for walkarounds where a long reach is a good thing.
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3000223size=lg
 

Handholding a nearly 500mm (35mm equivalent) lens at 1/250th?  Geez,
Paul, you've got pretty steady hands.  I may have to give you the
Human Tripod award for 2005 (sorry, Rob, but all things must pass). 
Oh well, it's a long year ahead, and anything can happen, but I think
we have a contender here.

Seriously, that's a nice shot.  Very nice.  Sharp.  Well composed.  I
like the look on the critter's face - seems to be part apprehension,
part curiousity.  Love the bokeh of the branches in the background.

Well shot, Paul.  Glad you saw the sun yesterday (judging by the blue
skies in the photo).  We didn't.  And today it's miserable with
freezing rain.  A good day to stay inside and watch NFL football. 
vbg

cheers,
frank


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO New Year's Day Walkaround

2005-01-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Frank. We had a fairly nice day yesterday, but it's raining 
today. I plan on watching football as well. Today's my last day to eat 
and drink like a pig :-). Tomorrow, it's back to work and a diet plan.
Paul
On Jan 2, 2005, at 11:17 AM, frank theriault wrote:

On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 21:03:41 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We had some decent light today, so I walked down the street to the 
marsh, hoping to see some birds. I usually take the A 400/5.6 and a 
tripod or monopod on such occasions, but I was feeling lazy, so I 
mounted the FA 80-320/4.5-5.6. The birds must have all had hangovers, 
because they were in hiding, but this squirrel kept watching me. 
Looking at his girth, I'd bet he's been fed pretty well by humans. He 
wouldn't come close, but he wasn't totally camera shy either. Here's 
a handheld shot at 320mm on the *istD. The stop is 5.6, the shutter 
speed 1/250 at iso 400. The fov is, of course, equivelant to a 480mm 
lens on a 35mm film camera.  This isn't a great lens, but it's a lot 
of fun for walkarounds where a long reach is a good thing.
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3000223size=lg

Handholding a nearly 500mm (35mm equivalent) lens at 1/250th?  Geez,
Paul, you've got pretty steady hands.  I may have to give you the
Human Tripod award for 2005 (sorry, Rob, but all things must pass).
Oh well, it's a long year ahead, and anything can happen, but I think
we have a contender here.
Seriously, that's a nice shot.  Very nice.  Sharp.  Well composed.  I
like the look on the critter's face - seems to be part apprehension,
part curiousity.  Love the bokeh of the branches in the background.
Well shot, Paul.  Glad you saw the sun yesterday (judging by the blue
skies in the photo).  We didn't.  And today it's miserable with
freezing rain.  A good day to stay inside and watch NFL football.
vbg
cheers,
frank
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: Tsunami

2005-01-02 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 10:20:28 +0100, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 375 million USD is still a lot of money. I just hope teh aid gets there in
 time!
 

Yes, you're right, Jens.  The numbers seem to be constantly changing
and going up, as the tragedy and it's solutions are being assessed and
re-assessed.  As of yesterday, I heard that Japan had contributed the
largest amount of government money at about $500 million US.  But
countries' contributions are going up daily.

As you said, the important thing is that the money gets to where it
can help quickly.

As far as commercial or retail tie-ins, I agree somewhat with Paul, in
that it may be good to be wary or even cynical in some cases.  I'd be
pretty confident that larger companies, like Walmart Canada as
mentioned by Wheatfield, will get your money to the Red Cross quickly,
and that they really will match donations dollar for dollar.

A company that says they'll give you free software if you make a
donation through them seems a bit dodgy, IMHO (although, they may well
be on the up and up, who knows?)

In terms of charities most of the ones mentioned here would likely do
a good job of putting the money to good use.  The Red Cross, UNICEF,
Medecines Sans Frontieres (Doctors Without Borders), Oxfam and other
well-known charities will all do a fair and equitable job of
distributing the donations in a very efficient manner.

When donating to some of the larger charities, it's a good idea to
specify for Tsunami relief fund on your donation, to assure that
your funds are put to that exact use.  Otherwise, it may be possible
that your donation will end up in their general funds, and not all of
it will get to where you intend it.

cheers,
frank

-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO New Year's Day Walkaround

2005-01-02 Thread ernreed2
Quoting frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Handholding a nearly 500mm (35mm equivalent) lens at 1/250th?  Geez,
 Paul, you've got pretty steady hands. 

Hence the nickname Steady Stenquist.




Re: PESO New Year's Day Walkaround

2005-01-02 Thread frank theriault
On Sun,  2 Jan 2005 10:50:50 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Quoting frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Handholding a nearly 500mm (35mm equivalent) lens at 1/250th?  Geez,
  Paul, you've got pretty steady hands.
 
 Hence the nickname Steady Stenquist.
 

Indeed!

I'd forgotten about that one.  Thanks for the reminder.  g

cheers,
frank


-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Cool Histograms on Optio 750Z

2005-01-02 Thread William Robb
Playing with the new toy a bit, I discovered that by pressing the OK 
button, the histogram of the view is displayed, and on the image 
itself, areas of out of range under exposed turn yellow, while out of 
range over exposed turns red.
The front lever can then be used to bias the exposure to give the 
best exposure.
Too cool.

William Robb



Re: PESO - A Walk in the Woods

2005-01-02 Thread Cotty
On 2/1/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed:

I really like the two pictures that you used the fence as framing. (I
like fences,among
other things lol) 
and the first tree/sunset shot. Lovely silloette on the tree.

Thanks Dave. Will contact you off list.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: LTM on Pentax Screw Mount

2005-01-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: JP M 
Subject: LTM on Pentax Screw Mount


I'd like to use my LTM lenses on a K1000.  
A what?
William Robb


Re: Happy New Year

2005-01-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault
Subject: Re: Happy New Year


It was a premium (so they call it at the beer store) Sleeman's 
Cream
Ale
Poor guy. I had that stuff once.
William Robb 




Re: PESO New Year's Day Walkaround

2005-01-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault
Subject: Re: PESO New Year's Day Walkaround


A good day to stay inside and watch NFL football.
vbg
I didn't think that was possible.
We've had about a foot of snow over he past few days, and at the 
moment it is -30º.
I think I'll go outside and play with my snowblower.

Beats NFL anyday.
William Robb 




Re: LTM on Pentax Screw Mount

2005-01-02 Thread Bob W
Hi,

Sunday, January 2, 2005, 4:17:51 PM, JP wrote:

 Is this an old question?

 I'd like to use my LTM lenses on a K1000.  Has anyone
 done this successfully, or unsuccessfully?

 If it's a good idea what's a source for a good LTM to
 Pentax Screw Mount adapter?

There are plenty of M39 (Leica screwmount) to M42 (Pentax screwmount)
adapters around. However, they won't do you much good on a K1000 because
it is a bayonet mount camera.

You can also get M42 to K-mount adapters, so presumably you could stack
them: M39 - M42 - K.

It's probably not beyond the wit of man or Cotty to produce a M39 - K adapter,
if no such thing is commercially available.

Regards,

Bob



Re: LTM on Pentax Screw Mount

2005-01-02 Thread Cotty
On 2/1/05, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

Sunday, January 2, 2005, 4:17:51 PM, JP wrote:

 Is this an old question?

 I'd like to use my LTM lenses on a K1000.  Has anyone
 done this successfully, or unsuccessfully?

 If it's a good idea what's a source for a good LTM to
 Pentax Screw Mount adapter?

There are plenty of M39 (Leica screwmount) to M42 (Pentax screwmount)
adapters around. However, they won't do you much good on a K1000 because
it is a bayonet mount camera.

You can also get M42 to K-mount adapters, so presumably you could stack
them: M39 - M42 - K.

It's probably not beyond the wit of man or Cotty to produce a M39 - K
adapter,
if no such thing is commercially available.

Ahhh - LTM = Leica Thread Mount, yes?

I looked on SRB's web site but they don't list an M39 lens onto a K body.
It may be possible as Bob says.

More info:

www.srb.co.uk

Click on 'adaptors' at left, but I notice that the 'view adaptor price
list' link is not working. Instead, download the 'adaptor price list PDF'
and look at that. Page 7 lists the available body / lens adaptors.

HTH




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: LTM on Pentax Screw Mount

2005-01-02 Thread JP M
Hi Bob,

Yes, I already have the K to M42 adapter on the K1000.
 I've been using some Kodak Retina IIIs lenses with a
Deckel to M42 adapter stacked on the K to M42...

I need a pointer to a good one.  Meaning an M39 that
has the proper (weird) Leica pitch and that is made of
something other than cheap plastic or sticky aluminum.

Or better yet, if there is such an animal as a LTM
lens directly to K adapter...

Best,
Jeff
--- Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Sunday, January 2, 2005, 4:17:51 PM, JP wrote:
 
  Is this an old question?
 
  I'd like to use my LTM lenses on a K1000.  Has
 anyone
  done this successfully, or unsuccessfully?
 
  If it's a good idea what's a source for a good LTM
 to
  Pentax Screw Mount adapter?
 
 There are plenty of M39 (Leica screwmount) to M42
 (Pentax screwmount)
 adapters around. However, they won't do you much
 good on a K1000 because
 it is a bayonet mount camera.
 
 You can also get M42 to K-mount adapters, so
 presumably you could stack
 them: M39 - M42 - K.
 
 It's probably not beyond the wit of man or Cotty to
 produce a M39 - K adapter,
 if no such thing is commercially available.
 
 Regards,
 
 Bob
 
 


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Independent Sales Agent for AFLAC
Cell:  201 317-1655



Re: LTM on Pentax Screw Mount

2005-01-02 Thread JP M
William,

I have some Voigtlander/Cosina lenses that are in
Leica Thread Mount.  I want to use them on either a
Pentax K1000 or ME Super with the proper adapter/s.

Best,
Jeff
--- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 - Original Message - 
 From: JP M 
 Subject: LTM on Pentax Screw Mount
 
 
 
  I'd like to use my LTM lenses on a K1000.  
 
 A what?
 
 William Robb
 
 


=
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Independent Sales Agent for AFLAC
Cell:  201 317-1655



Re: LTM on Pentax Screw Mount

2005-01-02 Thread Paul Stenquist
If the lenses were for Leica or Bessa rangefinders, you won't get much 
focus range with them on an SLR. They'll be good for macro and that's 
about it. Film plane is in the wrong location.
Paul
On Jan 2, 2005, at 12:32 PM, JP M wrote:

William,
I have some Voigtlander/Cosina lenses that are in
Leica Thread Mount.  I want to use them on either a
Pentax K1000 or ME Super with the proper adapter/s.
Best,
Jeff
--- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Original Message -
From: JP M
Subject: LTM on Pentax Screw Mount

I'd like to use my LTM lenses on a K1000.
A what?
William Robb


=
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Independent Sales Agent for AFLAC
Cell:  201 317-1655



RE: Cool Histograms on Optio 750Z

2005-01-02 Thread Jens Bladt
Very clever. Is this a new feature in the industry? This could become a
standard for future digicams!

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 2. januar 2005 17:57
Til: Pentax Discuss
Emne: Cool Histograms on Optio 750Z


Playing with the new toy a bit, I discovered that by pressing the OK
button, the histogram of the view is displayed, and on the image
itself, areas of out of range under exposed turn yellow, while out of
range over exposed turns red.
The front lever can then be used to bias the exposure to give the
best exposure.
Too cool.

William Robb






Re: LTM on Pentax Screw Mount

2005-01-02 Thread Shel Belinkoff
This is correct as I've already attempted to use some LTM's on various
Pentax bodies.

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Date: 1/2/2005 9:42:48 AM
 Subject: Re: LTM on Pentax Screw Mount

 If the lenses were for Leica or Bessa rangefinders, you won't get much 
 focus range with them on an SLR. They'll be good for macro and that's 
 about it. Film plane is in the wrong location.
 Paul
 On Jan 2, 2005, at 12:32 PM, JP M wrote:

  William,
 
  I have some Voigtlander/Cosina lenses that are in
  Leica Thread Mount.  I want to use them on either a
  Pentax K1000 or ME Super with the proper adapter/s.




Re: PUG Favourites for 2004

2005-01-02 Thread Joseph Tainter
Thank you, Fred. Brightens my day.
Joe


Re: LTM on Pentax Screw Mount

2005-01-02 Thread JP M
OK, thanks.  That's the info I was looking for and
hoping not to get.

The Kodak Retina Lenses are then a strange beast. 
They are interchangeable on the Retina iiiS (a
rangefinder) and on the Reflex S (an SLR).  I've also
used them succesfully on the K1000.  

My HOPE was that I could also use my LTM lenses on the
M42 bodies.

Oh well...

Thanks all,
Jeff
--- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is correct as I've already attempted to use
 some LTM's on various
 Pentax bodies.
 
 Shel 
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
  Date: 1/2/2005 9:42:48 AM
  Subject: Re: LTM on Pentax Screw Mount
 
  If the lenses were for Leica or Bessa
 rangefinders, you won't get much 
  focus range with them on an SLR. They'll be good
 for macro and that's 
  about it. Film plane is in the wrong location.
  Paul
  On Jan 2, 2005, at 12:32 PM, JP M wrote:
 
   William,
  
   I have some Voigtlander/Cosina lenses that are
 in
   Leica Thread Mount.  I want to use them on
 either a
   Pentax K1000 or ME Super with the proper
 adapter/s.
 
 
 


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Independent Sales Agent for AFLAC
Cell:  201 317-1655



Spotmeter V

2005-01-02 Thread Chris Lindgren
I have rediscovered the joys of my Pentax SLR equipment and am new to the 
list.
I have a question regarding my Spotmeter V...Are G-13 Mercury batteries 
readily available?

Thanks in advance!
Chris



RE: Spotmeter V

2005-01-02 Thread Don Sanderson
I list the G-13 as a Silver Oxide battery.
If so it can be replaced with the very common SR-44
button battery.
The LR-44 is the Alkaline version and should work but
may not be as accurate over the life of the battery.

HTH
Don

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Lindgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 12:20 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Spotmeter V


 I have rediscovered the joys of my Pentax SLR equipment and am new to the
 list.
 I have a question regarding my Spotmeter V...Are G-13 Mercury batteries
 readily available?

 Thanks in advance!

 Chris





Re: LTM on Pentax Screw Mount

2005-01-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: JP M 
Subject: Re: LTM on Pentax Screw Mount


William,
I have some Voigtlander/Cosina lenses that are in
Leica Thread Mount.  
Had I thought about that at all...
William Robb


Re: Spotmeter V

2005-01-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Chris Lindgren
Subject: Spotmeter V


I have rediscovered the joys of my Pentax SLR equipment and am new 
to the list.
I have a question regarding my Spotmeter V...Are G-13 Mercury 
batteries readily available?
The Spotmeter V will use 3 S76 Silver Oxide batteries quite nicely.
William Robb 




Re: Cool Histograms on Optio 750Z

2005-01-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Jens Bladt
Subject: RE: Cool Histograms on Optio 750Z


Very clever. Is this a new feature in the industry? This could 
become a
standard for future digicams!
I don't think it is possible on DSLRs, at least not the way they are 
being made at the moment, but it sure is a neat way to meter an 
exposure.

William Robb 




RE: Spotmeter V

2005-01-02 Thread Don Sanderson
I just checked the manual and your right, it specifies
Mercury.
However it says 1.5 volt so a Silver Oxide should work
fine as long as it fits.
If you'll measure the size of one I'll compare ot to an
SR-44 to be sure it's the same size.

Don

 -Original Message-
 From: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 12:36 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: Spotmeter V
 
 
 I list the G-13 as a Silver Oxide battery.
 If so it can be replaced with the very common SR-44
 button battery.
 The LR-44 is the Alkaline version and should work but
 may not be as accurate over the life of the battery.
 
 HTH
 Don
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Lindgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 12:20 PM
  To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
  Subject: Spotmeter V
 
 
  I have rediscovered the joys of my Pentax SLR equipment and am 
 new to the
  list.
  I have a question regarding my Spotmeter V...Are G-13 Mercury batteries
  readily available?
 
  Thanks in advance!
 
  Chris
 
 
 



RE: Spotmeter V

2005-01-02 Thread Chris Lindgren
I just referenced the battery spec from my orig owners manual.  I haven't 
given it a good looking over, or the meter for that matter, but I seem to 
recall...The G-13's operate the meter and the 9V is there for the finder 
illumination function.  Like I say...I haven't played with it yet and I'm 
going from memory.  20 years ago.  Ouch...my brain hurts!

Chris
From: quot;Don Sandersonquot; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: lt;pentax-discuss@pdml.netgt;
Subject: RE: Spotmeter V
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 12:35:46 -0600
I list the G-13 as a Silver Oxide battery.
If so it can be replaced with the very common SR-44
button battery.
The LR-44 is the Alkaline version and should work but
may not be as accurate over the life of the battery.
HTH
Don
gt; -Original Message-
gt; From: Chris Lindgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
gt; Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 12:20 PM
gt; To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
gt; Subject: Spotmeter V
gt;
gt;
gt; I have rediscovered the joys of my Pentax SLR equipment and am new to 
the
gt; list.
gt; I have a question regarding my Spotmeter V...Are G-13 Mercury batteries
gt; readily available?
gt;
gt; Thanks in advance!
gt;
gt; Chris
gt;
gt;




Re: PESO New Year's Day Walkaround

2005-01-02 Thread John Whittingham
 I had the *istD set on center spot autofocus, so I fixed the focus 
 on the critter, then reframed the shot.

Good technique.

 I don't find it objectionable. In 
 fact, I find it quite interesting.

Yes quite, great shot all the same. I was considering doing some nature 
photography in the New Year, birds mainly, but I've just discovered the 
term 'digiscoping' after a search for interesting sites to visit. These guys 
are using 80x spotting scopes with digicams attached, it's like having a 
4000mm tele lens on the 35mm SLR!!

John


-- Original Message ---
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 11:09:17 -0500
Subject: Re: PESO New Year's Day Walkaround

 I had the *istD set on center spot autofocus, so I fixed the focus 
 on the critter, then reframed the shot. I'm not sure that this 
 phenomena should be described as CA either. Every long lens I've 
 ever used produces some strange bokeh with extremely out of focus 
 branches against a bright sky. I don't find it objectionable. In 
 fact, I find it quite interesting. Paul On Jan 2, 2005, at 10:36 AM, 
 John Whittingham wrote:
 
  It's probably chromatic aberration. It's most evident in this kind
  of shot, where the background is extremely bright. I corrected it
  somewhat in the RAW conversion, but couldn't eliminate it
  completely. I think even my A 400/5.6 would show some CA with this
  kind of background and minimal depth of field.
 
  I'm not entirely sure it's CA the minimal depth of field seems more the
  culprit but obviously unavoidable at 320mm. It would be interesting to 
  know
  just exactly where the camera chose to focus or was the shot manually 
  focused?
 
  Would it be better with a film camera?!
 
  John
 
 
 
  -- Original Message ---
  From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
  Sent: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 10:02:13 -0500
  Subject: Re: PESO New Year's Day Walkaround
 
  It's probably chromatic aberration. It's most evident in this kind
  of shot, where the background is extremely bright. I corrected it
  somewhat in the RAW conversion, but couldn't eliminate it
  completely. I think even my A 400/5.6 would show some CA with this
  kind of background and minimal depth of field.
 
  On Jan 2, 2005, at 8:58 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 
  Paul, I took another look at the pic ... meant to ask about the 
  purple
  fringing.  Is that chromatic aberration or something else.  It really
  makes
  the lens far less useful ...
 
  Shel
 
  http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3000223size=lg
 
 
  --- End of Original Message ---
 
--- End of Original Message ---



Re: Spotmeter V

2005-01-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: Don Sanderson
Subject: RE: Spotmeter V


I just checked the manual and your right, it specifies
Mercury.
However it says 1.5 volt so a Silver Oxide should work
fine as long as it fits.
If you'll measure the size of one I'll compare ot to an
SR-44 to be sure it's the same size.

Odd. I just checked a couple of other forums, and apparently, early 
Spotmeter Vs use mercury batteries, later ones use silver oxide.
I suspect that the very old ones (they had the brown body) will use 
mercury batteries, and the later gray bodies will use silver oxide.
My very old gray one took silver oxides for sure.

William Robb 




RE: Spotmeter V

2005-01-02 Thread Chris Lindgren
Okay...I just took a look at the unit.  There is no scale illuminator button 
on the grip.  3 MS76's are too tall, they're also smaller in diameter than 
the orig's.  Judging by how they fit in the battery compartment.

Scratch my prior email regarding the functions of the 2 battery sources.  It 
appears the 9V operates the normal function and the G-13's operate the L 
function or low light function.  True?  Evidently I don't have a Spotmeter 
V...must be an orig. Spotmeter?

I'll do more research on the web.  I downloaded a Spotmeter V manual and 
that's where I got the battery spec.  Evidently it's the wrong manual.

Thanks,
Chris
From: quot;Don Sandersonquot; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: lt;pentax-discuss@pdml.netgt;
Subject: RE: Spotmeter V
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 12:49:25 -0600
I just checked the manual and your right, it specifies
Mercury.
However it says 1.5 volt so a Silver Oxide should work
fine as long as it fits.
If you'll measure the size of one I'll compare ot to an
SR-44 to be sure it's the same size.
Don
gt; -Original Message-
gt; From: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
gt; Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 12:36 PM
gt; To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
gt; Subject: RE: Spotmeter V
gt;
gt;
gt; I list the G-13 as a Silver Oxide battery.
gt; If so it can be replaced with the very common SR-44
gt; button battery.
gt; The LR-44 is the Alkaline version and should work but
gt; may not be as accurate over the life of the battery.
gt;
gt; HTH
gt; Don
gt;
gt; gt; -Original Message-
gt; gt; From: Chris Lindgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
gt; gt; Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 12:20 PM
gt; gt; To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
gt; gt; Subject: Spotmeter V
gt; gt;
gt; gt;
gt; gt; I have rediscovered the joys of my Pentax SLR equipment and am
gt; new to the
gt; gt; list.
gt; gt; I have a question regarding my Spotmeter V...Are G-13 Mercury 
batteries
gt; gt; readily available?
gt; gt;
gt; gt; Thanks in advance!
gt; gt;
gt; gt; Chris
gt; gt;
gt; gt;
gt;




Re: PESO New Year's Day Walkaround

2005-01-02 Thread pnstenquist

Thanks. The spotting scope sounds like fun. But you're going to need one heck 
of a sturdy tripod. I suppose a gimble head would be in order as well.
Paul


  I had the *istD set on center spot autofocus, so I fixed the focus 
  on the critter, then reframed the shot.
 
 Good technique.
 
  I don't find it objectionable. In 
  fact, I find it quite interesting.
 
 Yes quite, great shot all the same. I was considering doing some nature 
 photography in the New Year, birds mainly, but I've just discovered the 
 term 'digiscoping' after a search for interesting sites to visit. These guys 
 are using 80x spotting scopes with digicams attached, it's like having a 
 4000mm tele lens on the 35mm SLR!!
 
 John
 
 
 -- Original Message ---
 From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Sent: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 11:09:17 -0500
 Subject: Re: PESO New Year's Day Walkaround
 
  I had the *istD set on center spot autofocus, so I fixed the focus 
  on the critter, then reframed the shot. I'm not sure that this 
  phenomena should be described as CA either. Every long lens I've 
  ever used produces some strange bokeh with extremely out of focus 
  branches against a bright sky. I don't find it objectionable. In 
  fact, I find it quite interesting. Paul On Jan 2, 2005, at 10:36 AM, 
  John Whittingham wrote:
  
   It's probably chromatic aberration. It's most evident in this kind
   of shot, where the background is extremely bright. I corrected it
   somewhat in the RAW conversion, but couldn't eliminate it
   completely. I think even my A 400/5.6 would show some CA with this
   kind of background and minimal depth of field.
  
   I'm not entirely sure it's CA the minimal depth of field seems more the
   culprit but obviously unavoidable at 320mm. It would be interesting to 
   know
   just exactly where the camera chose to focus or was the shot manually 
   focused?
  
   Would it be better with a film camera?!
  
   John
  
  
  
   -- Original Message ---
   From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
   Sent: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 10:02:13 -0500
   Subject: Re: PESO New Year's Day Walkaround
  
   It's probably chromatic aberration. It's most evident in this kind
   of shot, where the background is extremely bright. I corrected it
   somewhat in the RAW conversion, but couldn't eliminate it
   completely. I think even my A 400/5.6 would show some CA with this
   kind of background and minimal depth of field.
  
   On Jan 2, 2005, at 8:58 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
  
   Paul, I took another look at the pic ... meant to ask about the 
   purple
   fringing.  Is that chromatic aberration or something else.  It really
   makes
   the lens far less useful ...
  
   Shel
  
   http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3000223size=lg
  
  
   --- End of Original Message ---
  
 --- End of Original Message ---
 



Re: Spotmeter V

2005-01-02 Thread pnstenquist
I have the very old brown one, and it works fine with silver oxide batteries. I 
suspect that it was originally equipped with mercury batteries.
Paul


 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Don Sanderson
 Subject: RE: Spotmeter V
 
 
 I just checked the manual and your right, it specifies
  Mercury.
  However it says 1.5 volt so a Silver Oxide should work
  fine as long as it fits.
  If you'll measure the size of one I'll compare ot to an
  SR-44 to be sure it's the same size.
 
 
 Odd. I just checked a couple of other forums, and apparently, early 
 Spotmeter Vs use mercury batteries, later ones use silver oxide.
 I suspect that the very old ones (they had the brown body) will use 
 mercury batteries, and the later gray bodies will use silver oxide.
 My very old gray one took silver oxides for sure.
 
 William Robb 
 
 



Re: Spotmeter V

2005-01-02 Thread Chris Lindgren
Mine is a brown body unit with a gray scale index later applied next to the 
EV scale.  I never used it much in the past.  I always used the digital 
unit...until I loaned it out and it never came back.

Thanks for the info.

From: quot;William Robbquot; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: lt;pentax-discuss@pdml.netgt;
Subject: Re: Spotmeter V
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 13:23:47 -0600
- Original Message - From: quot;Don Sandersonquot;
Subject: RE: Spotmeter V
gt;I just checked the manual and your right, it specifies
gt;Mercury.
gt;However it says 1.5 volt so a Silver Oxide should work
gt;fine as long as it fits.
gt;If you'll measure the size of one I'll compare ot to an
gt;SR-44 to be sure it's the same size.
Odd. I just checked a couple of other forums, and apparently, early 
Spotmeter Vs use mercury batteries, later ones use silver oxide.
I suspect that the very old ones (they had the brown body) will use mercury 
batteries, and the later gray bodies will use silver oxide.
My very old gray one took silver oxides for sure.

William Robb



Re: Spotmeter V

2005-01-02 Thread Chris Lindgren
Mine isn't working with 2 MS76's.  I'll do some work on the contacts.  If 
that doesn't get me anywhere...I'll break out the ohm meter.

Thanks,
Chris
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Spotmeter V
Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 19:31:48 +
I have the very old brown one, and it works fine with silver oxide 
batteries. I suspect that it was originally equipped with mercury batteries.
Paul

gt;
gt; - Original Message -
gt; From: quot;Don Sandersonquot;
gt; Subject: RE: Spotmeter V
gt;
gt;
gt; gt;I just checked the manual and your right, it specifies
gt; gt; Mercury.
gt; gt; However it says 1.5 volt so a Silver Oxide should work
gt; gt; fine as long as it fits.
gt; gt; If you'll measure the size of one I'll compare ot to an
gt; gt; SR-44 to be sure it's the same size.
gt;
gt;
gt; Odd. I just checked a couple of other forums, and apparently, early
gt; Spotmeter Vs use mercury batteries, later ones use silver oxide.
gt; I suspect that the very old ones (they had the brown body) will use
gt; mercury batteries, and the later gray bodies will use silver oxide.
gt; My very old gray one took silver oxides for sure.
gt;
gt; William Robb
gt;
gt;



Re: PESO New Year's Day Walkaround

2005-01-02 Thread John Whittingham
I can't help but wonder what the image quality would be like at say 8x10 :) 
The scopes optics would have to be very good indeed at that magnification.

John



-- Original Message ---
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 19:29:02 +
Subject: Re: PESO New Year's Day Walkaround

 Thanks. The spotting scope sounds like fun. But you're going to need 
 one heck of a sturdy tripod. I suppose a gimble head would be in 
 order as well. Paul
 
   I had the *istD set on center spot autofocus, so I fixed the focus 
   on the critter, then reframed the shot.
  
  Good technique.
  
   I don't find it objectionable. In 
   fact, I find it quite interesting.
  
  Yes quite, great shot all the same. I was considering doing some nature 
  photography in the New Year, birds mainly, but I've just discovered the 
  term 'digiscoping' after a search for interesting sites to visit. These 
guys 
  are using 80x spotting scopes with digicams attached, it's like having a 
  4000mm tele lens on the 35mm SLR!!
  
  John
  
  
  -- Original Message ---
  From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
  Sent: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 11:09:17 -0500
  Subject: Re: PESO New Year's Day Walkaround
  
   I had the *istD set on center spot autofocus, so I fixed the focus 
   on the critter, then reframed the shot. I'm not sure that this 
   phenomena should be described as CA either. Every long lens I've 
   ever used produces some strange bokeh with extremely out of focus 
   branches against a bright sky. I don't find it objectionable. In 
   fact, I find it quite interesting. Paul On Jan 2, 2005, at 10:36 AM, 
   John Whittingham wrote:
   
It's probably chromatic aberration. It's most evident in this kind
of shot, where the background is extremely bright. I corrected it
somewhat in the RAW conversion, but couldn't eliminate it
completely. I think even my A 400/5.6 would show some CA with this
kind of background and minimal depth of field.
   
I'm not entirely sure it's CA the minimal depth of field seems more 
the
culprit but obviously unavoidable at 320mm. It would be interesting 
to 
know
just exactly where the camera chose to focus or was the shot manually 
focused?
   
Would it be better with a film camera?!
   
John
   
   
   
-- Original Message ---
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 10:02:13 -0500
Subject: Re: PESO New Year's Day Walkaround
   
It's probably chromatic aberration. It's most evident in this kind
of shot, where the background is extremely bright. I corrected it
somewhat in the RAW conversion, but couldn't eliminate it
completely. I think even my A 400/5.6 would show some CA with this
kind of background and minimal depth of field.
   
On Jan 2, 2005, at 8:58 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
   
Paul, I took another look at the pic ... meant to ask about the 
purple
fringing.  Is that chromatic aberration or something else.  It 
really
makes
the lens far less useful ...
   
Shel
   
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3000223size=lg
   
   
--- End of Original Message ---
   
  --- End of Original Message ---
 
--- End of Original Message ---



Re: PESO New Year's Day Walkaround

2005-01-02 Thread ernreed2
Quoting William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
 - Original Message - 
 From: frank theriault
 Subject: Re: PESO New Year's Day Walkaround
 
 
 
  A good day to stay inside and watch NFL football.
  vbg
 
 I didn't think that was possible. 

I share your scepticism.
I've never experienced a good day to watch NFL football.
I *have* experienced many many good days to stay inside and *sleep* ...

:-)
ERNR



RE: Spotmeter V

2005-01-02 Thread pnstenquist
Enough of this :-). I obviously have the same unit, so I took a look. One 
battery is a PC 640A alkaline. The other is a conventional 9 volt. This is the 
very old, dark brown unit without the illuminator button. It works quite well. 
Incidentally, that spec battery was installed by Quality Light-Metric, when I 
had the meter calibrated five years ago. They're a company in Hollywood that 
specializes in light meter repair and calibration, so I figure they got it 
right.  Some Hollywood directors won't hire a Director of Photography unless he 
has a Quality Light-Metric calibration sticker on his meter. They do a great 
job, and they're not all that expensive. I use my Spotmeter V to check all my 
other meters. If anyone is interested in meter calibration, you can reach 
Quality Light-Metric at 323-467-2265.
Paul


 Okay...I just took a look at the unit.  There is no scale illuminator button 
 on the grip.  3 MS76's are too tall, they're also smaller in diameter than 
 the orig's.  Judging by how they fit in the battery compartment.
 
 Scratch my prior email regarding the functions of the 2 battery sources.  It 
 appears the 9V operates the normal function and the G-13's operate the L 
 function or low light function.  True?  Evidently I don't have a Spotmeter 
 V...must be an orig. Spotmeter?
 
 I'll do more research on the web.  I downloaded a Spotmeter V manual and 
 that's where I got the battery spec.  Evidently it's the wrong manual.
 
 Thanks,
 Chris
 
 From: quot;Don Sandersonquot; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;
 Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 To: lt;pentax-discuss@pdml.netgt;
 Subject: RE: Spotmeter V
 Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 12:49:25 -0600
 
 I just checked the manual and your right, it specifies
 Mercury.
 However it says 1.5 volt so a Silver Oxide should work
 fine as long as it fits.
 If you'll measure the size of one I'll compare ot to an
 SR-44 to be sure it's the same size.
 
 Don
 
 gt; -Original Message-
 gt; From: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 gt; Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 12:36 PM
 gt; To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 gt; Subject: RE: Spotmeter V
 gt;
 gt;
 gt; I list the G-13 as a Silver Oxide battery.
 gt; If so it can be replaced with the very common SR-44
 gt; button battery.
 gt; The LR-44 is the Alkaline version and should work but
 gt; may not be as accurate over the life of the battery.
 gt;
 gt; HTH
 gt; Don
 gt;
 gt; gt; -Original Message-
 gt; gt; From: Chris Lindgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 gt; gt; Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 12:20 PM
 gt; gt; To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 gt; gt; Subject: Spotmeter V
 gt; gt;
 gt; gt;
 gt; gt; I have rediscovered the joys of my Pentax SLR equipment and am
 gt; new to the
 gt; gt; list.
 gt; gt; I have a question regarding my Spotmeter V...Are G-13 Mercury 
 batteries
 gt; gt; readily available?
 gt; gt;
 gt; gt; Thanks in advance!
 gt; gt;
 gt; gt; Chris
 gt; gt;
 gt; gt;
 gt;
 
 



PESO: Eight O' Clock Flower

2005-01-02 Thread Jens Bladt
I'm sorry if I have posted this image before
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/2828279/

I entered a local competition with this. The judge didn't like it - at all.
He said the lighting was bad. That's what bothers me: Is it really wrong to
try to just photograph something the way you see it? As I opened my front
door one morning in late August (the day after I received my new *ist D), I
noticed this flower, which I believe it is a weed, not a culture flower. I
shot it right there - from my doorway - as I saw it - that fine morning. My
front door is facing east, so naturally, it's back lit! The almost-black
background is just the shadow-side of my hedge - noting artificial/arranged.
All the best

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt





Sensor-Size-Conversion-Factor-Confused... HELP

2005-01-02 Thread Albano Garcia

Hi gang,
I understand the APS sized sensors on DSLRs converts
your 28mm on a 42mm cropping image area, but if I
understand well, the depth of field remains the one of
a 28mm and also the distortion of image proper of the
original focal lenght remains, since the lens is still
phisycally the same, but cropped, right?
So, people who uses 50mm lenses as short teles for
portraits, still gets the dof and face features
rendition of a 50mmm but cropped, not the flatting
effect of a 85mm...
I'm right?
Regards



=
Albano Garcia
Photography  Graphic Design
http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar
http://www.flaneur.com.ar
 
 

 






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Re: PESO: Eight O' Clock Flower

2005-01-02 Thread Jon Glass
On Jan 2, 2005, at 8:48 PM, Jens Bladt wrote:
I entered a local competition with this. The judge didn't like it - at 
all.
He said the lighting was bad. That's what bothers me: Is it really 
wrong to
try to just photograph something the way you see it?
I cannot believe he didn't like the lighting in this flower!!! I think 
it's beautiful! The unusual lighting adds to its value, not detracts. 
He was, I suppose, just an old fuddley-duddley. (to speak kindly) I 
find this photo not merely attractive, but rather amazing! I love how 
the droplets on the back of the flower petals shows through, due to the 
backlighting. Nothing to be ashamed of, IMO. :-)
--
-Jon Glass
Krakow, Poland
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Sensor-Size-Conversion-Factor-Confused... HELP

2005-01-02 Thread pnstenquist
If you're shooting a portrait with a 50mm lens on your *ist D, your camera 
position would be the same as it would be with a 75mm lens on a 35mm film 
camera, so the foreshortening would be the same. Thus, a 50 will serve nicely 
as a portrait lens on the *istD.
Paul


 
 Hi gang,
 I understand the APS sized sensors on DSLRs converts
 your 28mm on a 42mm cropping image area, but if I
 understand well, the depth of field remains the one of
 a 28mm and also the distortion of image proper of the
 original focal lenght remains, since the lens is still
 phisycally the same, but cropped, right?
 So, people who uses 50mm lenses as short teles for
 portraits, still gets the dof and face features
 rendition of a 50mmm but cropped, not the flatting
 effect of a 85mm...
 I'm right?
 Regards
 
 
 
 =
 Albano Garcia
 Photography  Graphic Design
 http://www.albanogarcia.com.ar
 http://www.flaneur.com.ar
  
  
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
   
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Re: PESO: Eight O' Clock Flower

2005-01-02 Thread Bob W
Hi,

Sunday, January 2, 2005, 7:48:50 PM, Jens wrote:

 I'm sorry if I have posted this image before
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/2828279/

 I entered a local competition with this. The judge didn't like it - at all.
 He said the lighting was bad. That's what bothers me: Is it really wrong to
 try to just photograph something the way you see it?

The judge is obviously an idiot.

I would never enter a photography competition unless I knew who the
judges were, and what qualified them to pass judgement on my
photographs.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob

If I knew how to take a good photograph, I'd do it every time

--Robert Doisneau 



Re: WTB: Pentax SMC-F 70-210/4.5-5.6 AF Lens

2005-01-02 Thread Fred
 If anyone has one they might want to part with at a reasonable price, I
 would be interested.  Please contact me off list and thanks in advance!

That's probably the F 70-210/4-5.6, though...  ;-)

Fred




RE: Sensor-Size-Conversion-Factor-Confused... HELP

2005-01-02 Thread Jens Bladt
Hmmm
Long story (the optical/scientific side) - I won't go into that.

Still, the DOF remains unchanged. DOF is a function of Aperture and Focal
length an focusing distance - nothing else. However, since you normally use
shorter focal lengths for a smaller (digital) format (to get the sam AOV),
the DOF seemingly gets better (deeper) for the smaller (digital) format,
provided the AOV is the same.

I too noticed, that a little while ago, there was a posting (Paul
Stenquist??) saying something about the DOF on a digital camera being
different from that of the same lens, used on a 35mm body...???  I believe
what he meant was, that a 300mm on the *ist D will equal a 450mm in terms of
magnification on a 35mm, but still have the DOF of a 300mm, which - I
believe - is true.

So, I believe what you are saying about the 50mm and the 85mm may very well
be correct. But of cource, by cropping the image (by using a smaller format)
you may in some cases also cut away some of the out of focus areas, which
may appear as better DOF.

Jens Bladt
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http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Albano Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 2. januar 2005 20:56
Til: PDML
Emne: Sensor-Size-Conversion-Factor-Confused... HELP



Hi gang,
I understand the APS sized sensors on DSLRs converts
your 28mm on a 42mm cropping image area, but if I
understand well, the depth of field remains the one of
a 28mm and also the distortion of image proper of the
original focal lenght remains, since the lens is still
phisycally the same, but cropped, right?
So, people who uses 50mm lenses as short teles for
portraits, still gets the dof and face features
rendition of a 50mmm but cropped, not the flatting
effect of a 85mm...
I'm right?
Regards



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RE: PESO: Eight O' Clock Flower

2005-01-02 Thread Jens Bladt
Thanks very much, Jon  - and Bob.
I agree - about the judge.
He was a complete printing fettishist - he obviously didn't care what was
in the photograph - as long as it was very well printed! I agree, that well
printed (and of cource) exposed, photgraphs can look pretty convincing. Like
this one:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/2695269/in/set-68002/

It is actually a rather boring/dull shot, but it still looks so very good,
just because the exposure (and hopefully printing) is just right. BTW - this
was made with a SMC-A 2.8/20mm fully open (2.8)!

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Jon Glass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 2. januar 2005 21:06
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: Re: PESO: Eight O' Clock Flower


On Jan 2, 2005, at 8:48 PM, Jens Bladt wrote:

 I entered a local competition with this. The judge didn't like it - at
 all.
 He said the lighting was bad. That's what bothers me: Is it really
 wrong to
 try to just photograph something the way you see it?

I cannot believe he didn't like the lighting in this flower!!! I think
it's beautiful! The unusual lighting adds to its value, not detracts.
He was, I suppose, just an old fuddley-duddley. (to speak kindly) I
find this photo not merely attractive, but rather amazing! I love how
the droplets on the back of the flower petals shows through, due to the
backlighting. Nothing to be ashamed of, IMO. :-)
--
-Jon Glass
Krakow, Poland
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Re: PESO: Eight O' Clock Flower

2005-01-02 Thread cbwaters
- Original Message - 
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The judge is obviously an idiot.

That's *just* what I was thinking.
Cory
liked it a lot.

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Re: PESO: Eight O' Clock Flower

2005-01-02 Thread Keith Whaley
I see nothing wrong with the lighting at all... the judge is simply 
wrong. It happens!

Good catch!
keith whaley
Jens Bladt wrote:
I'm sorry if I have posted this image before
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/2828279/
I entered a local competition with this. The judge didn't like it - at all.
He said the lighting was bad. That's what bothers me: Is it really wrong to
try to just photograph something the way you see it? As I opened my front
door one morning in late August (the day after I received my new *ist D), I
noticed this flower, which I believe it is a weed, not a culture flower. I
shot it right there - from my doorway - as I saw it - that fine morning. My
front door is facing east, so naturally, it's back lit! The almost-black
background is just the shadow-side of my hedge - noting artificial/arranged.
All the best
Jens Bladt
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http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt





Re: Tsunami

2005-01-02 Thread Juey Chong Ong
On Jan 2, 2005, at 11:56 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
Wow - not even a tremor?
Yup...not a single vibe. We didn't know anything about it until we 
heard it on the news. Relatives in Bangkok did feel the building sway a 
bit and some of the towers were evacuated as a precaution.

(snip)
Ann replies:
LIke Paul , I wouldn't tie in any donation of mine to anything that 
gave me
either a tax write-off or made any sort of offer whatsoever.  I just 
called
the Red Cross and used a credit card for a small amount, what I could 
manage.
I think it is a pretty safe way to make sure your dollars are going to 
help.
I don't know anything about CoffeeCup software; if the freebie 
encourages contributions, that's fine with me.

I believe SmallDog's charitable giving program is like any other 
company's program, only that they opened up participation to their 
customers as well. I mentioned it not so much to hype the merchant, but 
as an opportunity to make your donations go further. I'm sure there are 
other companies making matching contributions too. (btw, I just checked 
their charity web page http://www.smalldog.com/charity.html and found 
out that their maximum matching amount is US$200).

--jc



RE: PUG Favourites for 2004

2005-01-02 Thread pdml
Thanks Fred! It's always encouraging being validated.. very much appreciated.

Cheers,
Ryan


-- Original Message --
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 22:31:33 -0500 (EST)
From: Fred Widall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: PUG Favourites for 2004
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net


Here's my list of PUG favourites for 2004.

I picked my favourite photograph from the themed gallery
for each month,

There are so many excellent photographs published each month but these are
the ones which especially caught my eye.

Jan - Animals - Maya and Alex by  Wendy Beard, Canada
Feb - Wet - Moss by  Jostein Oksne, Norway
Mar - Portrait - Vix, Oxford, 2004 by  Cotty, UK
Apr - Curved - Galleria Umberto I by  Gianfranco Irlanda, Italy
May - Environment - Pioneer Barn by  Harald Rust, USA
Jun - Cliche -  Aa by  Wendy Beard, Canada
Jul - Vacation - Best Car in Town by  Jan van Wijk, Netherlands
Aug - BW II - King Draco by  Ryan Lee, Australia
Sep - Mystery - Ready for the Ceremonial by  Gianfranco Irlanda, Italy
Oct - Transport - Evening at Mopti by  Joseph Tainter, USA
Nov - Red - So Ya Wanted Sumthin Red... by  Kenneth Waller, USA
Dec - Trees - YAC - Yet Another Cypress by  Bruce Dayton, USA

Let's hear your opinions.

--
 Fred Widall,
 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 URL: http://www.ist.uwaterloo.ca/~fwwidall
--




Re: Tsunami

2005-01-02 Thread DagT
På 2. jan. 2005 kl. 17.38 skrev frank theriault:
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 10:20:28 +0100, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
375 million USD is still a lot of money. I just hope teh aid gets 
there in
time!

Yes, you're right, Jens.  The numbers seem to be constantly changing
and going up, as the tragedy and it's solutions are being assessed and
re-assessed.  As of yesterday, I heard that Japan had contributed the
largest amount of government money at about $500 million US.  But
countries' contributions are going up daily.
The Norwegian government, representing 4 million people, is now 
considering  to give approximately $150 million.  Already people have 
given about $34 million directly to some organizations, like the Red 
Cross.

Yes, some of the money will fill other pockets but it is still worth it 
so save some lives.

DagT


Re: Spotmeter V

2005-01-02 Thread Peter J. Alling
Short answer, no.  It may be possible to use 1.5 volt cells in the 
spotmeter without modification.  You can
do that with Pentax Cameras from the SP F onward for certain, maybe 
earlier models as well.  Someone else
may know if the Spotmeters work that way as well.  If not you can get 
Wein cells at 1.4 volts which are close
enough, though a bit pricey an short lived due to their chemistry.

Chris Lindgren wrote:
I have rediscovered the joys of my Pentax SLR equipment and am new to 
the list.
I have a question regarding my Spotmeter V...Are G-13 Mercury 
batteries readily available?

Thanks in advance!
Chris


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During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
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PESO: Paris

2005-01-02 Thread pdml
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3002800size=lg

Just a quick one before my 2 minutes at the Inet cafe runs out.. Paris on
NY Eve 2004! There's a story to come but must log off..

Cheers,
Ryan



Scanning Question

2005-01-02 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Assuming that you're scanning at the same bit depth and with all other
parameters the same, would there be any loss of detail or information or
whatever when scanning at 2000ppi v 4000ppi?


Shel 




Re: PUG Favourites for 2004

2005-01-02 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
Fred Widall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Apr - Curved - Galleria Umberto I by  Gianfranco Irlanda,
Italy
and
 Sep - Mystery - Ready for the Ceremonial by  Gianfranco
Irlanda, Italy

Hi Fred,

Thanks for mentioning me twice! It's a nice way to begin a year!
:-D
Also thanks for making me want to have another look at all the
2004 galleries.

Ciao,

Gianfranco

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RE: Sensor-Size-Conversion-Factor-Confused... HELP

2005-01-02 Thread Joseph Tainter
Still, the DOF remains unchanged. DOF is a function of Aperture and 
Focal length an focusing distance - nothing else. However, since you 
normally use shorter focal lengths for a smaller (digital) format (to 
get the sam AOV), the DOF seemingly gets better (deeper) for the smaller 
(digital) format, provided the AOV is the same.

I too noticed, that a little while ago, there was a posting (Paul
Stenquist??) saying something about the DOF on a digital camera being
different from that of the same lens, used on a 35mm body...???  I 
believe what he meant was, that a 300mm on the *ist D will equal a 450mm 
in terms of magnification on a 35mm, but still have the DOF of a 300mm, 
which - I believe - is true.

Too confuse you further, Albano:
It is my understanding that when you go to an APS-sized sensor, the 
appropriate circle of confusion decreases, giving less depth of field. 
For example, fCalc uses a CoC of .025 for 35 mm., but .0199 for APS. 
This yields lower dof.

The bottom line is, I believe, that a 50 mm lens on the *ist D or DS 
will give less depth of field than the same lens on a 35 mm. camera.

Joe


Re: Spotmeter V

2005-01-02 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Contact:

Quality Light-Metric 
7060 Hollywood Boulevard; Suite 415 
Los Angeles, California 90028 
323-467-2265 

They'll give you the most reliable information on which batteries can be
used, although it's probably a good idea to get the meter calibrated
considering its age and that you may be using batteries it wasn't designed
for.  I'm pretty sure that you can use the silver cells, or the alkalines,
once the meter has been calibrated to their voltage.


Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Date: 1/2/2005 1:10:02 PM
 Subject: Re: Spotmeter V

 Short answer, no.  It may be possible to use 1.5 volt cells in the 
 spotmeter without modification.  You can
 do that with Pentax Cameras from the SP F onward for certain, maybe 
 earlier models as well.  Someone else
 may know if the Spotmeters work that way as well.  If not you can get 
 Wein cells at 1.4 volts which are close
 enough, though a bit pricey an short lived due to their chemistry.

 Chris Lindgren wrote:

  I have rediscovered the joys of my Pentax SLR equipment and am new to 
  the list.
  I have a question regarding my Spotmeter V...Are G-13 Mercury 
  batteries readily available?
 
  Thanks in advance!




Re: Sensor-Size-Conversion-Factor-Confused... HELP

2005-01-02 Thread johnf
Albano Garcia mused:
 
 
 Hi gang,
 I understand the APS sized sensors on DSLRs converts
 your 28mm on a 42mm cropping image area, but if I
 understand well, the depth of field remains the one of
 a 28mm and also the distortion of image proper of the
 original focal lenght remains, since the lens is still
 phisycally the same, but cropped, right?
 So, people who uses 50mm lenses as short teles for
 portraits, still gets the dof and face features
 rendition of a 50mmm but cropped, not the flatting
 effect of a 85mm...
 I'm right?
 Regards

Let's see if I can explain this simply.

The end goal is to end up with a resulting print (or image)
of given dimensions; this will require different amounts of
cropping, enlargement, etc., depending on what equipment was
used to make the original capture.

 1) The perspective, or distortion (relative size of features,
relationship of near and far objects, etc.) depends on
where you stand to take the photograph, and on nothing else.

 2) For a specified print size, the depth of field depends
on the actual physical size of the taking aperture
   (not the f-stop; the diameter), and on nothing else.

Once you've decided where to stand to capture the image,
(and on what format camera to use, if that's an option)
you will have a maximum focal length you can use to get
the whole of your desired subject within the image area
on the sensor.  But as long as you stay below that, you
can use any lens from your camera bag (although using a
longer rather than a shorter focal length is generally
better, to make the best use of the media capabilities).
Then all you have to do is pick the aperture diameter to
give you the depth of field you want, and take the shot.
The drawback is that an aperture diameter which gives
an f-stop of f2.8 with a 24mm lens will only give you
f22 with a 200mm lens, which will increase the exposure
time (possibly causing problems from camera shake or
subject motion).



Re: Happy New Year

2005-01-02 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 10:59:31 -0600, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 - Original Message -
 From: frank theriault
 Subject: Re: Happy New Year
 
  It 
 
 Poor guy. I had that stuff once.
 

Hey, it was in the fridge and it was free (to me, at least).  Those
are two of the things I look for in a beer. g

I agree with you, though, William.  The only thing premium about
Sleeman's is the price...

cheers,
frank


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Re: PESO: Eight O' Clock Flower

2005-01-02 Thread Bob W
Hi,

Sunday, January 2, 2005, 8:36:23 PM, Jens wrote:

 Thanks very much, Jon  - and Bob.
 I agree - about the judge.
 He was a complete printing fettishist - he obviously didn't care what was
 in the photograph - as long as it was very well printed! I agree, that well
 printed (and of cource) exposed, photgraphs can look pretty convincing. Like
 this one:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/2695269/in/set-68002/

 It is actually a rather boring/dull shot, but it still looks so very good,
 just because the exposure (and hopefully printing) is just right. BTW - this
 was made with a SMC-A 2.8/20mm fully open (2.8)!

there are certain types of photograph where it is important for them
to be technically faultless - architecture is one of those.

I have some photos of the castles in Gondar, Ethiopia which are surprisingly
similar in composition to yours, but which are not so technically
skillful, unfortunately, and they just look dull.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob




Re: Scanning Question

2005-01-02 Thread johnf
Shel Belinkoff mused:
 
 Assuming that you're scanning at the same bit depth and with all other
 parameters the same, would there be any loss of detail or information or
 whatever when scanning at 2000ppi v 4000ppi?

Absolutely.  Scanning at 4000ppi will resolve some fine detail
which would be missed by scanning at 2000ppi (assuming you are
using a film capable of recording detail at that level)



Re: Scanning Question

2005-01-02 Thread pnstenquist
You should get more detail at 4000ppi than you get at 2000ppi. You're recording 
more information, so the results are better. I can see the difference between a 
6x7 neg scanned at 1600 as opposed to one scanned at 3200.
Paul


 Assuming that you're scanning at the same bit depth and with all other
 parameters the same, would there be any loss of detail or information or
 whatever when scanning at 2000ppi v 4000ppi?
 
 
 Shel 
 
 



Re: PESO: Paris

2005-01-02 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 22:04:31 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3002800size=lg
 
 Just a quick one before my 2 minutes at the Inet cafe runs out.. Paris on
 NY Eve 2004! There's a story to come but must log off..
 
 Cheers,
 Ryan
 
 

Nice shot, Ryan!!

Hmmm...  Paris on New Year's Eve.  Now ~that~ sounds like a party!  g

Didja have fun?

cheers,
frank


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