RE: A stupid custom function setting!

2005-04-16 Thread Jens Bladt
I agree, Don. But, I guess it's for checking the camera functions without
making a lot af image files (repair or service purposes). Remember to turn
this ON again.

Remember to allways check the first photographs on the LCD screen (press
info button twice).
Lots of other things can go "wrong", like ISO setting, Contrast level,
on-board sharpening, AE-program, exposure correction etc. etc. etc.

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 17. april 2005 04:22
Til: PDML
Emne: A stupid custom function setting!


Because of the greater speed I started using a card reader
last week instead of the ist-D's USB cable.
I just came back in from shooting the sunset to find that
my CF card was still in the reader!
I just turned off the "shutter release w/o CF" custom function.
This is set to ON by default, what a stupid default setting.
The camera does warn you breifly on the LCD, but if you
don't notice it you can just go on shooting all day. DOH!

Don




Re: A stupid custom function setting!

2005-04-16 Thread Bruce Dayton
Not only is the setting stupid, the default is even stupider.  I did
that once and found the setting and turn it to not letting me shoot
without a card in.

I bet most of us have learned the hard way.

-- 
Bruce


Saturday, April 16, 2005, 7:21:56 PM, you wrote:

DS> Because of the greater speed I started using a card reader
DS> last week instead of the ist-D's USB cable.
DS> I just came back in from shooting the sunset to find that
DS> my CF card was still in the reader!
DS> I just turned off the "shutter release w/o CF" custom function.
DS> This is set to ON by default, what a stupid default setting.
DS> The camera does warn you breifly on the LCD, but if you
DS> don't notice it you can just go on shooting all day. DOH!

DS> Don





Re: Goldilocks and the three camera bags

2005-04-16 Thread Powell Hargrave
At 10:02 PM 16/04/2005 , Amita wrote:

>
>Anyway, I'm now up to 7 camera bags. Only 5 steps left to go!


Does the 12 step thing work with lenses?  
Cuz I'm almost there.  Unless you count the old ones I no longer use.  And
the spare parts broken ones.  And the... Ah hell forget it!  There is no cure.

Powell



Re: PESO PAW - Antique Movie Prop

2005-04-16 Thread Peter J. Alling
That is just so beautifully awful...
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Saw this as I was driving by a most unusual shop filled with odd antiques
and old movie props and paraphernalia.  This was leaning against a wall in
the shop driveway, and I immediately turned around, parked the car, and
grabbed a couple of shots with a little P&S I had with me.  Some time later
I went back when the light was more appropriate for the scene and got this
rendition.  It sure loses detail when scanned and resized.
http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/prop.html
Tech details: Pentax MX, K35/3.5 @ 5.6, Fuji Reala, Nikon Coolscan V,
Photoshop CS, Springbank 21
Shel 


 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Goldilocks and the three camera bags

2005-04-16 Thread Amita Guha
You guys know how I bought a new Tamron bag for a trip. Last weekend, we
were showing my inlaws around NYC, so I played tourist and carried the kit I
plan to take to London. Turns out this bag is too narrow to comfortably
carry all the lenses I want to carry. They all fit, but squeezing them in
and out is a chore, and the bag itself is a bit uncomfortable to carry.

The next day, I went back to my Lowepro Offroad. Everything fits in the bag,
or on it, easily, but the thing is too awkward  
to carry for miles in a city.

So the day after that, I went to B&H and picked up the Lowepro Off Trail 1,
a belt bag. This bag has room for 1 body, 3 lenses and nothing else. I tried
this bag for the first time today; we walked the length of Central Park and
then some. Turns out the third time was a charm! I have easy access to the
most important gear, and the weight of the batteries and image tank is in a
backpack. I hadn't thought of splitting up the weight of the gear, but it
did seem to make a difference.

I had thought the Off Trail 1 looked small, but it fit the istD and the
Tamron 28-75 with a neoprene neck strap (although it's tricky getting the
neck strap in).

Anyway, I'm now up to 7 camera bags. Only 5 steps left to go!

Amita




Re: L plate for *istD

2005-04-16 Thread Ramesh Kumar
I think my last mail was not clear...but still I got the answer..
Conceptually, I wanted to know, whether rotating QR Platform(as in the case 
of RSS Pano clamp) is same as rotating ballhead system itself(as in the case 
of Acratech Ultima ballhead..).

You answered my question in
"since the rotation mechanism is on the top of the head, it can be 
leveled with the ball head lock and will rotate while maintaining the level. 
the Acratech head allows you to use standard tripod screw thread attachment 
to your camera. the rotating base is at the bottom of the head and will 
rotate about the axis of the tripod mount. in general, this will not be 
level unless you level the entire tripod.."

I understand that I need L bracket, body plate, MPR rail, RSS pano head, 
Arca style QR platform..

Thank you verymuch
Ramesh


they are for different purposes. the RRS clamp replaces the camera 
attachment on your existing ballhead and changes you over to the Arca-Swiss 
style QR system. since the rotation mechanism is on the top of the head, it 
can be leveled with the ball head lock and will rotate while maintaining the 
level. the Acratech head allows you to use standard tripod screw thread 
attachment to your camera. the rotating base is at the bottom of the head 
and will rotate about the axis of the tripod mount. in general, this will 
not be level unless you level the entire tripod. depending on the type of 
tripod you have, this may be easy or hard. 5 or 10 degrees inaccuracy is not 
going to make a difference in a panorama stitching program.. you usually 
need to overlap 30-50% to get good results. if you read further on the RRS 
site on creating panoramas, or on other sites such as Panoramic.net or 
panoguide.com, you will see that you need a ballhead with a rotating base 
and a panoramic rotator in addition. attaching the RRS pano clamp 
permanently to the Acratech head, if that is the one you like, is what will 
work best. you will still need an L-bracket system, and ideally, you will 
want one with fore-aft movement too so that you can set the nodal point, 
which an L-Bracket on a panorama clamp will not let you do.

Herb

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you would think so but it doesn't. it's how they do market research to see 
if there is enough demand for the lesser volume cameras to justify them 
making a plate. they made one for my Nikon Coolpix 5000, but they are not 
making any for the Coolpix 8400. i have to use a generic plate that is 
bigger than it needs to be by a lot.

Herb
- Original Message - From: "Ramesh Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: L plate for *istD

Even when placing online order for Universal L bracket, we are supposed to 
mention specific camera model. It means they may be having something 
specific to *itsD.




PESO PAW - Antique Movie Prop

2005-04-16 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Saw this as I was driving by a most unusual shop filled with odd antiques
and old movie props and paraphernalia.  This was leaning against a wall in
the shop driveway, and I immediately turned around, parked the car, and
grabbed a couple of shots with a little P&S I had with me.  Some time later
I went back when the light was more appropriate for the scene and got this
rendition.  It sure loses detail when scanned and resized.

http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/prop.html

Tech details: Pentax MX, K35/3.5 @ 5.6, Fuji Reala, Nikon Coolscan V,
Photoshop CS, Springbank 21


Shel 




Re: Hurrah for Shel Disrobing the Emperor

2005-04-16 Thread Bob Blakely
But it can be parsed!
Regards,
Bob...

"A picture is worth a thousand  words,
but it uses up three thousand times the  memory."
From: "Norman Baugher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Somebody's done gone woke up Blakely
Norm
Bob Blakely wrote:
Crap!



Re: Hurrah for Shel Disrobing the Emperor

2005-04-16 Thread Bob Blakely
I feel your pain. Been there. Got the high blood pressure to prove it. I 
guess I am lucky. But then, someone, somewhere in the big cities does good 
work, or all the pros who use film would also be screaming. Now, I don't get 
persnickety about my proof prints, they're just a starting point. Being a 
hack, I go through a lot of film to get just a few acceptable shots. I don't 
mind paying a premium price to get 2 to 4 out of 20-30 reprinted the way I 
want - cropped exposure adjusted, dodged/burned in areas, etc. After all, 
it's only 2 to 4 prints out of 20-30 negs.

Regards,
Bob...

"A picture is worth a thousand  words,
but it uses up three thousand times the  memory."
From: "Mishka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

lucky you. i tried labs in boston (lots) and nyc (some). both, 1-hr type
and "pro" labs. haven't seen one that would give me back a remotely
reasonable set of prints.
of course, if i were to order "custom" prints -- that's a different story.
and a totally different price point.
the way i see it, the lack of reasonably priced processing/printing
basically forces digital down my throat. when i pay $20 to get a set of
lousy  4x6s that would make me want to yell,  an inkjet starts looking
*very* attractive. oversharpened or not.
best,
mishka
On 4/16/05, Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Y'a know, I'm sure there's a plethora of, well, let's just say "ordinary"
labs out there that are running 35mm through the machines and just
robot-like punching the buttons to select the machine's suggestion for
correction, if any, to be applied to prints. No doubt some labs are
stretching a little on their chemicals too. For some, it may be about 
money,
for others it may be about apathy. There are also labs out there where 
they
make every effort to insure that first of all, your negatives (positives)
will be the best that can be produced, given what you tell them, and that
the results will be uniformly excellent. I gave up on the small (1 hour
type) labs long ago when my negs were just not up to snuff, and 
especially
when I had some come back that looked like film that hadn't been in the 
hypo
long enough. I gave up on the department mega Wal-Mart stores when I
couldn't get decent printing. Right now, I gave up on the photography
superstores like Samy's when I couldn't talk with the techs any more. Now 
I
get everything done at Pro Photo Connection in Irvine, CA. They have an
impressive big money client list with many of their sometimes famous 
photos
on their walls and they want to keep it that way. Now, I'm a hack and 
they
treat me the same as the big money clients! It's great to turn in a roll 
of
35, 120, 220 - whatever, and ask for whatever I want (within reason - 
push
1, push 2, pull 1, etc.) and have things turn out like I expected with
perfect negatives and decent initial prints for proofs. It's also great 
to
be able to mark off areas of a print for differing amounts of exposure 
and
actually get what I want. They aren't cheap, but they are good and they 
are
dependable.

Regards,
Bob...

"A picture is worth a thousand  words,
but it uses up three thousand times the  memory."
From: "Mishka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> So you cannot parse a short english sentence.
> That's all.
>
> Mishka
>
>> > even more (by a huge margin) stuff that's produced from film
>> > in the labs stinks.
>> > so?
>>
>> So you are a bad printer.
>> Thats all.






Re: Tan's Ride - our new site is Live!!

2005-04-16 Thread David Savage
OK Tan I've made a donation. Happy now?



Dave S

On 4/16/05, Tan and Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Woohoo!! Guys and gals!! Remember our big ride across Australia that we are
> doing for charity?? Well, after many late nights and lotsa teeth grinding,
> the labour of love aka our new website is finally live as of about five
> minutes ago!!
> 
> Please support us guys and girls, this is a huge thing that we are doing and
> our fundraising tally needs to go up!!  Please visit our site, feel free to
> view our blog and leave a comment, or if you feel really generous, you may
> purchase items from the Gift Club or leave us an online donation through
> Paymate with your credit card.  By next week, we will have merchandise
> available for purchase, so this is another way that you could help us!!
> 
> All of the funds we are raising are being donated to two wonderful
> children's charities and all of the information about the charities is
> available on our site.
> 
> I know that this is all off topic guys, but it is for a great cause and we
> really could do with a hand!!  Plus, all of the photos on the site were
> taken by me with Pentax equipment! ;)
> 
> The site can be found here:
> 
> www.headwindsanddreams.com
> 
> Thanks for looking and for your support, we can't wait to hear your
> comments!!
> 
> tan.:)
> 
>



Re: Hurrah for Shel Disrobing the Emperor

2005-04-16 Thread Norman Baugher
Somebody's done gone woke up Blakely
Norm
Bob Blakely wrote:
Crap!



Re: Tan's Ride - our new site is Live!!

2005-04-16 Thread Norman Baugher
Tan,
Stop your whining or I'm going to catch the next plane to Oz and whack 
you in the head with a piece of spaghetti! I saw your email and your 
website and will check it out time permitting. As you know, a few of us 
spend a great deal of time airborne and it's not always easy to get back 
to you ASAP. But I will, I promise
Norm (get out of my van) B.

Tan and Steve wrote:
Thanks so much for taking the time to comment Markus!  I must say I'm a
little disheartened by the lack of support from list members.



Re: A stupid custom function setting!

2005-04-16 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!
Because of the greater speed I started using a card reader
last week instead of the ist-D's USB cable.
I just came back in from shooting the sunset to find that
my CF card was still in the reader!
I just turned off the "shutter release w/o CF" custom function.
This is set to ON by default, what a stupid default setting.
The camera does warn you breifly on the LCD, but if you
don't notice it you can just go on shooting all day. DOH!
But it also would show on the screen on top of the camera? Would it not?
That is really painful. I managed to get away few times just because I 
bought two cards...

Well, I decided to give away my Zenit ET camera and two lenses back in 
1994 when I received a film from processing which wasn't exposed - I 
misloaded it. And so auto-all P&S got me :). My Fuji Discovery P&S never 
let me down in this department :).

Boris



Re: GESO

2005-04-16 Thread David Savage
Nice shots Cory.

The C5 certainly is impressive in size & lifting capacity, but that
Raptor is a fine looking aircraft. :-)

Dave S

On 4/17/05, cbwaters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here's a gallery from today's trip to the Lockheed factory in Marietta, GA.
> They have a family open house once a year and display some of the things
> they've made over the years.  The F22 and C130J are
> That C5 can hold SIX tour busses (!)
> We got to see a couple C130s that belong to Libya but have been parked here
> in Georgia since they were constructed several years ago.  Apparently, Mr.
> Qadhafi ordered and paid for the cargo planes but he was placed on the
> naughty list (WELL in advance of their designation as a member of the "AXIS
> of EVIL") before they could be delivered.
> 
> http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/b/cbwaters/lockheed/index.html
> 
> Cory W
> 
> --
> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.13 - Release Date: 4/16/2005
> 
>



Re: Hurrah for Shel Disrobing the Emperor

2005-04-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: "Mishka" Subject: Re: Hurrah for Shel Disrobing the Emperor


lucky you. i tried labs in boston (lots) and nyc (some). both, 1-hr type
and "pro" labs. haven't seen one that would give me back a remotely
reasonable set of prints.
of course, if i were to order "custom" prints -- that's a different story.
and a totally different price point.
the way i see it, the lack of reasonably priced processing/printing
basically forces digital down my throat. when i pay $20 to get a set of
lousy  4x6s that would make me want to yell,  an inkjet starts looking
*very* attractive. oversharpened or not.
I find it hard to believe that you can try that many labs and not get decent 
results from any of them.
We had a guy floating around town here who badmouthed every lab in the area 
for giving crappy results.
It turned out he couldn't expose a negative properly to save his life.

William Robb 




Re: GESO

2005-04-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: "cbwaters" Subject: GESO


Here's a gallery from today's trip to the Lockheed factory in Marietta, 
GA. They have a family open house once a year and display some of the 
things they've made over the years.  The F22 and C130J are
That C5 can hold SIX tour busses (!)
We got to see a couple C130s that belong to Libya but have been parked 
here in Georgia since they were constructed several years ago. 
Apparently, Mr. Qadhafi ordered and paid for the cargo planes but he was 
placed on the naughty list (WELL in advance of their designation as a 
member of the "AXIS of EVIL") before they could be delivered.
Did they refund his money?
William Robb 




Re: A stupid custom function setting!

2005-04-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: "Don Sanderson" Subject: A stupid custom function setting!


Because of the greater speed I started using a card reader
last week instead of the ist-D's USB cable.
I just came back in from shooting the sunset to find that
my CF card was still in the reader!
I just turned off the "shutter release w/o CF" custom function.
This is set to ON by default, what a stupid default setting.
The camera does warn you breifly on the LCD, but if you
don't notice it you can just go on shooting all day. DOH!
It was off by default on my camera.
William Robb


Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Gone Again and a GFM note


Well that's a good point although I think perhaps another answer for that 
may
be to reduce the cost ... ?
There are other answers, but you probably don't want to hear them.
William Robb 




Re: Hurrah for Shel Disrobing the Emperor

2005-04-16 Thread Mishka
lucky you. i tried labs in boston (lots) and nyc (some). both, 1-hr type
and "pro" labs. haven't seen one that would give me back a remotely 
reasonable set of prints.
of course, if i were to order "custom" prints -- that's a different story.
and a totally different price point.
the way i see it, the lack of reasonably priced processing/printing 
basically forces digital down my throat. when i pay $20 to get a set of 
lousy  4x6s that would make me want to yell,  an inkjet starts looking
*very* attractive. oversharpened or not.

best,
mishka

On 4/16/05, Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Y'a know, I'm sure there's a plethora of, well, let's just say "ordinary"
> labs out there that are running 35mm through the machines and just
> robot-like punching the buttons to select the machine's suggestion for
> correction, if any, to be applied to prints. No doubt some labs are
> stretching a little on their chemicals too. For some, it may be about money,
> for others it may be about apathy. There are also labs out there where they
> make every effort to insure that first of all, your negatives (positives)
> will be the best that can be produced, given what you tell them, and that
> the results will be uniformly excellent. I gave up on the small (1 hour
> type) labs long ago when my negs were just not up to snuff, and especially
> when I had some come back that looked like film that hadn't been in the hypo
> long enough. I gave up on the department mega Wal-Mart stores when I
> couldn't get decent printing. Right now, I gave up on the photography
> superstores like Samy's when I couldn't talk with the techs any more. Now I
> get everything done at Pro Photo Connection in Irvine, CA. They have an
> impressive big money client list with many of their sometimes famous photos
> on their walls and they want to keep it that way. Now, I'm a hack and they
> treat me the same as the big money clients! It's great to turn in a roll of
> 35, 120, 220 - whatever, and ask for whatever I want (within reason - push
> 1, push 2, pull 1, etc.) and have things turn out like I expected with
> perfect negatives and decent initial prints for proofs. It's also great to
> be able to mark off areas of a print for differing amounts of exposure and
> actually get what I want. They aren't cheap, but they are good and they are
> dependable.
> 
> Regards,
> Bob...
> 
> "A picture is worth a thousand  words,
> but it uses up three thousand times the  memory."
> 
> From: "Mishka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > So you cannot parse a short english sentence.
> > That's all.
> >
> > Mishka
> >
> >> > even more (by a huge margin) stuff that's produced from film
> >> > in the labs stinks.
> >> > so?
> >>
> >> So you are a bad printer.
> >> Thats all.
> 
>



Re: Where's Cotty?

2005-04-16 Thread John Francis
Godfrey DiGiorgi mused:
> 
> Land Rover has been owned by Ford for some years now. They're seem to 
> be doing quite well ... Ford's pushed their marketing nicely and there 
> are a ton of them on the road in my area.

They've just announced the new models - everything from the
"cheap" Freelander to a $90,000 supercharged Range Rover.



Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-16 Thread Ann Sanfedele
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Quoting Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
 >
> > Well for one thing a passport now costs about $90.
> > makes it difficult
> > on the poor folk on  the borders.
> >
> > I think it would be outrageous to require it at
> > the Canadian orMexican
> > border
> 
> Well that's a good point although I think perhaps another answer for that may
> be to reduce the cost ... ?
> (yes, drastically)
> 
> ERNR

Now ya KNOW that ain't  gonna happen :)
(another good idea bound to be ignored)

ann



Re: A stupid custom function setting!

2005-04-16 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, "Don Sanderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Because of the greater speed I started using a card reader
> last week instead of the ist-D's USB cable.
> I just came back in from shooting the sunset to find that
> my CF card was still in the reader!
> I just turned off the "shutter release w/o CF" custom function.
> This is set to ON by default, what a stupid default setting.
> The camera does warn you breifly on the LCD, but if you
> don't notice it you can just go on shooting all day. DOH!

I am not sure why you are trying to achieve here?
Are you shooting and have the images directly to a PC?

Kind regards
Kevin

-- 
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. 
Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."



Re: unsubscribe

2005-04-16 Thread David Savage
D'oh

On 4/17/05, WP Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-16 Thread ernreed2
Quoting Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > Quoting John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > 
> > > It's of little interest to citizens of other foreign countries;
> > > for them, passports are already required.  I'm not sure whether
> > > my resident alien card (aka green card) is sufficient; I always
> > > use my passport, just to be sure.
> > 
> > Back when I had a green card, it usually was sufficient.
> > However, that was way before September 2001 ... Perhaps some things have
> > already changed in that area.
> > I personally do not see what is the big outcry about passports. You
> intend to
> > vote, you register to vote. You intend to drive a vehicle, you get a
> driver's
> > licence. You intend to travel to another country, you get a passport.
> 
> Well for one thing a passport now costs about $90.
> makes it difficult
> on the poor folk on  the borders.
> 
> I think it would be outrageous to require it at
> the Canadian orMexican
> border

Well that's a good point although I think perhaps another answer for that may 
be to reduce the cost ... ?
(yes, drastically)

ERNR




RE: PESO PAW - Fire Eating Drummer

2005-04-16 Thread Peter Williams
> -Original Message-
> From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/firedrum.html
> 

Nice snap, the plastic bucket drummer that often performs
near my workplace never does anything this dramamtic.

-- 
Peter Williams 



RE: PESO: Others 2005 - 16p - GDG

2005-04-16 Thread Peter Williams
> -Original Message-
> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> It certainly does a lot nicer at a much larger size and on paper. 
> >>http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/16p.htm
>

Yes, you can see that there should be a rich niceness
in things like the texture of the wood and the smooth
finish of the hinge, it just doesn't quite come across
on screen. I've had a number of my pics that would have
been a great B&W print, lokk ordinary on-screen.

-- 
Peter Williams  



Re: IR with *istDS

2005-04-16 Thread John Celio
Has anyone tried IR with the istDS?
http://infrareddreams.com/how_to_shoot_ir.htm
I took a quick pic with a remote control, and saw the IR light. Might go 
out an buy an 88A filter.
I use Cokin's awesome infrared filter with my *istD, and it works 
wonderfully.  It's nearly opaque to the human eye, and is usually a lot less 
expensive than screw-in type filters.  See if you can find a local shop that 
carries it and give it a try sometime.  I think you'll be pleased.

I shot this vertical panorama with the Cokin filter:
http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/files/d2/infra_01.html
John Celio
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RE: PESO - Mungo Lunette

2005-04-16 Thread Peter Williams
> -Original Message-
> From: Brian Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> This photo was taken several years ago at Mungo National Park
> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~sgap/photos/paw/mungo-paw.html
> 

I saw someone elses pics from Mungo recently, it's an amazing
looking place, I really must visit it. The effect in your sky
is very pleasing, particularly in conjunction with the colours
and unusual nature of the geology.

-- 
Peter Williams 



Re: L plate for *istD

2005-04-16 Thread Herb Chong
they are for different purposes. the RRS clamp replaces the camera 
attachment on your existing ballhead and changes you over to the Arca-Swiss 
style QR system. since the rotation mechanism is on the top of the head, it 
can be leveled with the ball head lock and will rotate while maintaining the 
level. the Acratech head allows you to use standard tripod screw thread 
attachment to your camera. the rotating base is at the bottom of the head 
and will rotate about the axis of the tripod mount. in general, this will 
not be level unless you level the entire tripod. depending on the type of 
tripod you have, this may be easy or hard. 5 or 10 degrees inaccuracy is not 
going to make a difference in a panorama stitching program.. you usually 
need to overlap 30-50% to get good results. if you read further on the RRS 
site on creating panoramas, or on other sites such as Panoramic.net or 
panoguide.com, you will see that you need a ballhead with a rotating base 
and a panoramic rotator in addition. attaching the RRS pano clamp 
permanently to the Acratech head, if that is the one you like, is what will 
work best. you will still need an L-bracket system, and ideally, you will 
want one with fore-aft movement too so that you can set the nodal point, 
which an L-Bracket on a panorama clamp will not let you do.

Herb 




RE: Anybody know what this is?

2005-04-16 Thread Paul Ewins
I'm pretty sure that this is a macro lens for photographing oscilloscope
screens. I'm not sure what film format, but the fast lens speed is a give
away. That shutter is a bit too big for any handheld 35mm camera and you
won’t get any sort of MF wide angle down to f1.5. 

The lenses come up for sale from time to time on eBay, usually minus the
shutter which is a lot more useful than the lens.

Paul Ewins
Melbourne, Australia   

-Original Message-
From: DagT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 2:09 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: OT: Anybody know what this is?

I found this when going through some old stuff that my parents didn´t 
want to keep.

http://www.foto.no/diskusjon/images/154698.jpg

DagT






RE: A stupid custom function setting!

2005-04-16 Thread Amita Guha
As do I. I've done that myself, with both film and digital...

> -Original Message-
> From: cbwaters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> Cory Waters feels your pain.
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Don Sanderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > Because of the greater speed I started using a card reader 
> last week 
> > instead of the ist-D's USB cable. I just came back in from shooting 
> > the sunset to find that my CF card was still in the reader!
> > I just turned off the "shutter release w/o CF" custom function.
> > This is set to ON by default, what a stupid default setting.
> > The camera does warn you breifly on the LCD, but if you
> > don't notice it you can just go on shooting all day. DOH!
> > 
> > Don



Re: A stupid custom function setting!

2005-04-16 Thread cbwaters
Cory Waters feels your pain.
- Original Message - 
From: "Don Sanderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PDML" 
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 10:21 PM
Subject: A stupid custom function setting!


Because of the greater speed I started using a card reader
last week instead of the ist-D's USB cable.
I just came back in from shooting the sunset to find that
my CF card was still in the reader!
I just turned off the "shutter release w/o CF" custom function.
This is set to ON by default, what a stupid default setting.
The camera does warn you breifly on the LCD, but if you
don't notice it you can just go on shooting all day. DOH!
Don


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A stupid custom function setting!

2005-04-16 Thread Don Sanderson
Because of the greater speed I started using a card reader
last week instead of the ist-D's USB cable.
I just came back in from shooting the sunset to find that
my CF card was still in the reader!
I just turned off the "shutter release w/o CF" custom function.
This is set to ON by default, what a stupid default setting.
The camera does warn you breifly on the LCD, but if you
don't notice it you can just go on shooting all day. DOH!

Don



Re: Old and Wise

2005-04-16 Thread cbwaters
So that's a window?  I like it but the haze effect (presumably the window) 
is a bit much.
CW
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To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 2:38 PM
Subject: PAW: Old and Wise


Hi!
Went to shoot some macro today. Very little luck with rather constant very 
soft but annoying breeze...

My wife and daughter spotted this guy behind the window of the closed 
restaurant. Perhaps I will make a print and hand it to the owners...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/boris71/9571234/
What do you say?
Boris


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Re: Where's Cotty?

2005-04-16 Thread Joseph Tainter
I always thought that British cars up through the 1960s and even early 
1970s were the most fun and interesting cars in the world.

Hence one of my perpetual problems: I tend to buy cars because I think 
they are interesting. Guess what happens then.

When I was a kid in California in the 1960s, MG and Triumph were the 
cars to have. I did manage to get an MG 1100, which was a small sedan (a 
bit bigger than a mini) rather than a sports car, but a whale of a lot 
of fun to drive.

But the Japanese and Germans won because the British cars weren't 
reliable. Same for Fiat in the U.S. market. On my MG, I once went 
through five fuel pumps in ten months. I finally got rid of it when the 
transmission went out -- at about 35,000 miles.

But I still haven't learned to stop buying cars because they are 
interesting.

Joe


RE: ist-D Focus Woes, More Info.

2005-04-16 Thread Don Sanderson
The DA is F4, I've since tried this same thing with the Tamron
28-75/2.8 and the Tamron SP 90/2.8 Macro.
The 90 gave 100% predictable results, the 28-75 was about 80%.
The 50s are what baffle me, I use manual focus lenses on the D
all the time.
Of course I miss every so often but I've found the Ds viewfinder
far better than many manual focus bodies.
I went out today and got a couple of 4ft "yardsticks", I'll
try again tomorrow and see if I can find a pattern of any sort.
The light we had today was such that I could easily see the DOF
of the grass in the viewfinder, the results didn't match what I
saw at all with the 50s. Focus was always way 'behind' what I
thought it would be.
Even on a tripod, with VERY careful focusing, the image was a
surprise.
And yet at a distance of 3ft or so all the lenses gave exactly
the result I saw thru the viefinder when I did the ruler shots.
In another test I shot a tape measure focusing on 7in with the
50/1.4. I repeated this several times. Here is the result:

http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/7inches.jpg

Perfect every time.
Yet at 20-30 feet or so the results vary widely.
I'm still baffled.

Don


> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Cassino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 8:35 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: ist-D Focus Woes, More Info.
>
>
> Hi Don -
>
> I just tried out my FA50 f1.7 and *ist-D, and they worked fine
> together - I
> ran a series of shots up along a 1 hour lab envelope (a nice
> hi-res target
> with the grid for reprints on it) and the lens/camera snapped into focus
> each shot, differentiating a matter of inches each time.  They all looked
> sharp in the finder - but that finder is pretty small.
>
> If the camera focuses correctly with some lenses and not others,
> I'd suspect
> a problem with the lens. In my experience, the *ist-D autofocus with slow
> lenses (like f5.6) is not so good, but it is very good with
> faster lenses.
> Your experience seems to be different - though, what is the
> aperture of the
> DA 16-45?  Maybe you are just seeing the results of more DOF than
> you get at
> f 1.7 and f 4 with the FA 1.7 ???
>
> - MCC
>
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> Mark Cassino Photography
> Kalamazoo, MI
> www.markcassino.com
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - Original Message -
> From: "Don Sanderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PDML" 
> Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 4:16 PM
> Subject: ist-D Focus Woes, More Info.
>
>
> > I'm not sure if I need a camera repairman or a psychologist
> > but here goes.
> > I tried A50/1.4, the FA50/1.7 and the DA 16-45 on a
> > yardstick from about 3 feet away.
> > Manual or autofocus were all spot on in 24 shots.
> >
> >
> > I took the 2 AF lenses outside and took shots of the
> > flowers, weeds, leaves etc. I found  in the grass.
> > The reason I chose these is that the grass shows clearly
> > whether focus was right on, long, or short.
> > It's a bright but overcast day so light is very even,
> > speeds were between 1/125th and 1/500th.
> > Shots at maximum aperture, AND the FA50/1.7 at 4.0.
> > I kept the intended subject centered in the viewfinder
> > to make it obvious what I was aiming at.
> >
> > Here's the score:
> > FA50/1.7 at 1.7, 20 misses out of 24, almost all were
> > focused long. (Past the intended point)
> >
> > FA50/1.7 at 4.0, 14 misses out of 24, again almost all
> > were long.
> >
> > DA16-45/4.0 at 45/4.0, *2* misses out of 24, one was
> > long, one was short.
> >
> > Again, all looked sharp in the viewfinder, if it was an
> > obvious 'miss' I let the lens re-focus.
> > OK, so the DA is my hero. ;-/
> > Any theories as to the extreme inconsistency in the
> > FA50 (And A50) ???
> >
> > And the main question:.
> > HOW can a viewfinder lie, but only SOMETIMES??
> >
> > Don (The Thoroughly Frustrated)
> >
> > PS: I have straight from the camera samples to prove
> > I'm not just on "Happy Weed". ;-)
> >
> >
>



GESO

2005-04-16 Thread cbwaters
Here's a gallery from today's trip to the Lockheed factory in Marietta, GA. 
They have a family open house once a year and display some of the things 
they've made over the years.  The F22 and C130J are
That C5 can hold SIX tour busses (!)
We got to see a couple C130s that belong to Libya but have been parked here 
in Georgia since they were constructed several years ago.  Apparently, Mr. 
Qadhafi ordered and paid for the cargo planes but he was placed on the 
naughty list (WELL in advance of their designation as a member of the "AXIS 
of EVIL") before they could be delivered.

http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/b/cbwaters/lockheed/index.html
Cory W

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Re: L plate for *istD

2005-04-16 Thread Ramesh Kumar
Acratech Ultimate Ballhead(AUB) has angle marks like RRS Pano clamp(PCL).
Differance is in marking resolution, AUB has 5 degree and PCL has 2.5 degree 
markings.
AUB is ~50$ more than PCL, but its ballhead.

Can AUB do as good a job as PCL?
Any thoughts are helpful.

Thanks
Ramesh


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you would think so but it doesn't. it's how they do market research to see 
if there is enough demand for the lesser volume cameras to justify them 
making a plate. they made one for my Nikon Coolpix 5000, but they are not 
making any for the Coolpix 8400. i have to use a generic plate that is 
bigger than it needs to be by a lot.

Herb
- Original Message - From: "Ramesh Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: L plate for *istD

Even when placing online order for Universal L bracket, we are supposed to 
mention specific camera model. It means they may be having something 
specific to *itsD.




Re: ist-D Focus Woes, More Info.

2005-04-16 Thread Mark Cassino
Hi Don -
I just tried out my FA50 f1.7 and *ist-D, and they worked fine together - I 
ran a series of shots up along a 1 hour lab envelope (a nice hi-res target 
with the grid for reprints on it) and the lens/camera snapped into focus 
each shot, differentiating a matter of inches each time.  They all looked 
sharp in the finder - but that finder is pretty small.

If the camera focuses correctly with some lenses and not others, I'd suspect 
a problem with the lens. In my experience, the *ist-D autofocus with slow 
lenses (like f5.6) is not so good, but it is very good with faster lenses. 
Your experience seems to be different - though, what is the aperture of the 
DA 16-45?  Maybe you are just seeing the results of more DOF than you get at 
f 1.7 and f 4 with the FA 1.7 ???

- MCC
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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Kalamazoo, MI
www.markcassino.com
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- Original Message - 
From: "Don Sanderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PDML" 
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 4:16 PM
Subject: ist-D Focus Woes, More Info.


I'm not sure if I need a camera repairman or a psychologist
but here goes.
I tried A50/1.4, the FA50/1.7 and the DA 16-45 on a
yardstick from about 3 feet away.
Manual or autofocus were all spot on in 24 shots.
I took the 2 AF lenses outside and took shots of the
flowers, weeds, leaves etc. I found  in the grass.
The reason I chose these is that the grass shows clearly
whether focus was right on, long, or short.
It's a bright but overcast day so light is very even,
speeds were between 1/125th and 1/500th.
Shots at maximum aperture, AND the FA50/1.7 at 4.0.
I kept the intended subject centered in the viewfinder
to make it obvious what I was aiming at.
Here's the score:
FA50/1.7 at 1.7, 20 misses out of 24, almost all were
focused long. (Past the intended point)
FA50/1.7 at 4.0, 14 misses out of 24, again almost all
were long.
DA16-45/4.0 at 45/4.0, *2* misses out of 24, one was
long, one was short.
Again, all looked sharp in the viewfinder, if it was an
obvious 'miss' I let the lens re-focus.
OK, so the DA is my hero. ;-/
Any theories as to the extreme inconsistency in the
FA50 (And A50) ???
And the main question:.
HOW can a viewfinder lie, but only SOMETIMES??
Don (The Thoroughly Frustrated)
PS: I have straight from the camera samples to prove
I'm not just on "Happy Weed". ;-)




Re: L plate for *istD

2005-04-16 Thread Herb Chong
you would think so but it doesn't. it's how they do market research to see 
if there is enough demand for the lesser volume cameras to justify them 
making a plate. they made one for my Nikon Coolpix 5000, but they are not 
making any for the Coolpix 8400. i have to use a generic plate that is 
bigger than it needs to be by a lot.

Herb
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From: "Ramesh Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: L plate for *istD


Even when placing online order for Universal L bracket, we are supposed to 
mention specific camera model. It means they may be having something 
specific to *itsD.



Re: L plate for *istD

2005-04-16 Thread Ramesh Kumar
*ist D specific, it was for any camera that had one of their arca swiss
mounting plates.
Even when placing online order for Universal L bracket, we are supposed to 
mention specific camera model. It means they may be having something 
specific to *itsD.

Thanks
Ramesh
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> And there is no reference to *istD compatible L bracket in Kirk site.
Call them and tell them what you have and want. The L bracket I  got was 
not
*ist D specific, it was for any camera that had one of their arca swiss
mounting plates.

Kenneth Waller
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To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: L plate for *istD
> Herb,
> Thanks for sharing your experience. I have SLIK 700DX tripod 
&
I
> want to make sure RRS & works with my existing ball head.  My QR plate
looks
> like this..
> http://www.thkphoto.com/products/slik/photos-t/SLIK_6125QUICK.jpg
>
> I think I need the fallowing, ls let me know if this is really the right
> stuff...
> 1) RRS Pano clamp ( PCL-1 3/8)   & RRS Rails (MPR-CL II )
> 2) Kirk L bracket for *istd
>
> RRS Pano clamp comes in two versions PCL - 1 3/8 and 1/4"-20 version.
> I think I should go for  PCL - 1 3/8.
>
> And there is no reference to *istD compatible L bracket in Kirk site.
>
> Thanks
> Ramesh
>
>
> >From: "Herb Chong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >
> >that's not just an L plate. i have the Kirk Photo Big L mentioned
elsewhere
> >and don't use it. it is designed for a much larger camera and sticks 
out
> >way too far to the right when mounted. also, it blocks all of the 
normal
> >access ports needed to change batteries, etc. the Really Right Stuff
image
> >you show requires an Arca Swiss plate mounted on the body. RRS doesn't
make
> >such a plate, but Kirk does for the *istD. i have a pair of the RRS
> >panorama clamps and the RRS B-16 adapter plate to do highly accurate
> >panoramas. the B-16 plate attaches and removes easily with no tools,
while
> >the Kirk Big L plate requires a hex key to install and remove.
> >
> >Herb
> >- Original Message - From: "Ramesh Kumar" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: 
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:12 AM
> >Subject: L plate for *istD
> >
> >
> >>How to mount the *istD on tripd in prortarit mode like this?
> >>http://www.reallyrightstuff.com/pano/horiz/horiz_panos_L-plate.jpg
> >>
> >>I thought of using L plate. Pls let me know, if any company makes it.
> >
>
>




Re: Enablement Dilemma

2005-04-16 Thread Mark Roberts
I have the Tamron 17-35. Preliminary shooting hints that this might just
be a stunningly good lens. We'll see if further tests bear this out.
I've done a series of comparison shots between the Tamron 17-35, Tokina
28-70, Pentax 24/2.0, Pentax FA28/2.8, Pentax F24-50 and Pentax FA24-90
at various focal lengths. I haven't had time to compile the results and
probably won't before the end of the semester (got several major
papers/projects I have to complete) but all the shots have been taken...


-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: Where's Cotty?

2005-04-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 16, 2005, at 12:35 PM, Keith Whaley wrote:
There is no "Rover" as a separate entity.
Land Rover hasn't been part of the Rover group for some time.
Uhhh, you're telling me, Rover as a CAR does not exist anymore? Nobody 
makes one? Of any kind?

Same for Land Rover? Are they going to have to recall Cotty's?  Oh 
dear!

Hmmm.  Next thing you'll be tryingto tell me is that there's no MG 
anymore!  Soighhh.

Good thing I've got several books describing (and picturing) those 
good ol' days, or all my memories would be gone!
Land Rover has been owned by Ford for some years now. They're seem to 
be doing quite well ... Ford's pushed their marketing nicely and there 
are a ton of them on the road in my area.

I have a Land Rover Freelander...
  http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/vehicles/fl.htm
It's an excellent little beastie.
Godfrey


RE: Tan's Ride - our new site is Live!!

2005-04-16 Thread Leon Altoff
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 07:15:52 +1000, Tan and Steve wrote:

>
>Thanks so much for taking the time to comment Markus!  I must say I'm a
>little disheartened by the lack of support from list members.  I guess maybe
>it is due to me not posting or contributing to Pentax related discussions as
>regularly anymore as I am so busy with work, but I've always thought of the
>people on the list as a kind of pseudo family - particularly those who I met
>at GFM, and we have received precisely two responses from my post - one from
>yourself and one from a very wonderful lurker who I have never met, but who
>has given us a very generous donation!!  So, at least we know that the
>Paymate option works fine as this lurker is in the UK, but I really thought
>there would be more interest from others, and especially the list
>"regulars".

Tan,

The weekend is always a bad time to post to the list.  I think most
people go out and take pictures or something.

I like the site.  I was wondering how it was all going and was planning
at waving at you as you rode past in Melbourne.  We have a casual day
at work every Friday with gold coin donations ($1 and $2 for those not
in Australia) going to different charities. I'll put this one forward
as one we can contribute to.


 Leon

http://www.bluering.org.au
http://www.bluering.org.au/leon




Re: Pentax Sf-1

2005-04-16 Thread brooksdj
Hi Ann.

I have the SF-1 which i bought used from Merkle Camera here in Toronto. Its the 
first main
AF camera
Pentax made,if you exclude the MF-1,(IIRC) but as Kenneth said in his post,its 
built like
a tank,i
find it has a great grip,but, its noisy as Heck.

FPS rate is slow,if that is what you are looking for, and the view finder only 
shows basic
info(thats why i bought a PZ-1)but if you want a decent AF camera,i will 
recommend it.

Dave  

> 
> PRos, cons and age range please :)
> 
> A friend of mine has one - i'll see it next week
> but
> wondered what I'll be looking at would like
> opinions
> from folks I know rather than some website
> 
> T I A
> annsan
> 






Re: Enablement Dilemma

2005-04-16 Thread Leon Altoff
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 16:17:55 +0200, Patrick Genovese wrote:

>I see your point but the 17-35 will be the only lens i've got that will 
>enable me to go wider than 24mm which means that at least for ultra wide 
>shots film will be my only option.
>
>OTOH if the Pentax is a lot better than the Tamron i'll go for the Pentax.

Patrick,

I have the 16-45 and it works well on film cameras down to 20mm before
it vignettes.  So if you are happy with 20 on the Pentax compared to 17
on the Tamron go for the Pentax.  Or if you are interested in a second
hand FA20-35 f4 let me know, it hasn't been used on film or digital
since I got the 16-45.


 Leon

http://www.bluering.org.au
http://www.bluering.org.au/leon




Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-16 Thread brooksdj
> Last weekend Nova Scotia.  This 
weekend Kingston.
> 
> See y'all Monday (maybe Sunday night).  Still haven't caught up from
> what I missed last weekend!  
> 
> BTW, it will please (or maybe scare!) the GFM folks to learn that I
> finally got my Birth Certificate, so crossing the border may be a tad
> smoother this year...  
> 
> cheers,
> frank

Maybe not.
I 'll show you my passport, drivers license and FAC photos, and maybe neither 
one of us
will be
crossing into GFM.

LOL

Dave Brooks 




Re: Hurrah for Shel Disrobing the Emperor

2005-04-16 Thread Bob Blakely
Crap!
Regards,
Bob...

"A picture is worth a thousand  words,
but it uses up three thousand times the  memory."
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
- Original Message - 
From: "Mishka" Subject: Re: Hurrah for Shel Disrobing the Emperor

So you cannot parse a short english sentence. 
That's all.
It's pretty hard to parse a one word sentence.



Re: Re: Hurrah for Shel Disrobing the Emperor

2005-04-16 Thread Bob Blakely
From: "John Coyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Haven't exactly dumped digital for film yet Rob, but this week I have been 
picking up the MZ-S loaded with B&W to go take some 'real' photos.  Of 
course, Murphy's Law says I find myself totally uninspired so I haven't 
even finished one film yet!
That's not Murphy's Law (If anything can go wrong it will). It's Sturgeon's 
Law (90% of everything is crap), or possibly Cole's Law (thinly sliced 
cabbage).

Regards,
Bob...

"A picture is worth a thousand  words,
but it uses up three thousand times the  memory."



Re: IR with *istDS

2005-04-16 Thread brooksdj
Kodak IR film is better,but, Larry from Prescott does a decent job through 
filters and PS.

Dave(still shooting HIE)Brooks   

> Here is an infrared page with the Ds 
mentioned in comparison with other 
> cameras and he also has some samples from the ds and tips.
> http://www.jr-worldwi.de/photo/index.html?Pentax_ist_DS_ir_sensitivity.html
> 
> 
> Greg Cooper
> Edmonton, Alberta
> Canada 
> 






Not really topicful...

2005-04-16 Thread D. Glenn Arthur Jr.
Okay, so I performed at an event called Marching Through Time
(historical military reenactors of various periods and wars,
from bronze-age Celts and the Roman Legion through WWII and 
Vietnam, all in one place, setting up demo camps and taking 
turns staging more active demos on the battlefield).  When I
wasn't playing, I got in a little shooting with the K1000, 
the K2, and the Holga.  (Tomorrow (same event) I figure I'll
substitute the Program Plus or the PZ-10 for the K1000, unless
I decide to give an H1a some exercise for a change.)

Note 1:  _Remember_ that I've got a wide-angle in the bag 
when I notice I want a wide angle ... bringing it doesn't
do any good if I forget I brought it.

Note 2:  The Nikon DSLR shooter was, oh jeez, _such_ a hottie
(and smiling and friendly as she shot us, and had a cute
accent) that I instantly decided to overlook the fact that
she wasn't shooting Pentax (not that it made much difference, 
as she was gone again a moment later.  *sigh*)

Note 3:  I thought it'd be cute to use my Holga to catch a
shot of the fellow shooting something large and brand-new-looking 
and modern and sleek and fancy-seeming.  Except that he kept
noticing me out of the corner of his eye and moving "out of
my way".  When I got closer I noticed his sleek, black, brand-new
looking camera was a Mamiya and he had 120 in it.  He in turn
noticed my Holga, and said, "Hey, I've heard of those!  Where 
can I get one?"  I was entertained.

I didn't notice any other Pentax shooters.  Maybe tomorrow.
(Then again, there were a lot of wee digitals, too small to
see what they were, and I know Pentax makes some damned teeny
ones, so who knows, maybe one of the barely-larger-than-a-keyfrob
digitals was a Pentax?)

And now I am sooo tired.Zzzz.

-- Glenn
.



Re: Hurrah for Shel Disrobing the Emperor

2005-04-16 Thread Bob Blakely
Y'a know, I'm sure there's a plethora of, well, let's just say "ordinary" 
labs out there that are running 35mm through the machines and just 
robot-like punching the buttons to select the machine's suggestion for 
correction, if any, to be applied to prints. No doubt some labs are 
stretching a little on their chemicals too. For some, it may be about money, 
for others it may be about apathy. There are also labs out there where they 
make every effort to insure that first of all, your negatives (positives) 
will be the best that can be produced, given what you tell them, and that 
the results will be uniformly excellent. I gave up on the small (1 hour 
type) labs long ago when my negs were just not up to snuff, and especially 
when I had some come back that looked like film that hadn't been in the hypo 
long enough. I gave up on the department mega Wal-Mart stores when I 
couldn't get decent printing. Right now, I gave up on the photography 
superstores like Samy's when I couldn't talk with the techs any more. Now I 
get everything done at Pro Photo Connection in Irvine, CA. They have an 
impressive big money client list with many of their sometimes famous photos 
on their walls and they want to keep it that way. Now, I'm a hack and they 
treat me the same as the big money clients! It's great to turn in a roll of 
35, 120, 220 - whatever, and ask for whatever I want (within reason - push 
1, push 2, pull 1, etc.) and have things turn out like I expected with 
perfect negatives and decent initial prints for proofs. It's also great to 
be able to mark off areas of a print for differing amounts of exposure and 
actually get what I want. They aren't cheap, but they are good and they are 
dependable.

Regards,
Bob...

"A picture is worth a thousand  words,
but it uses up three thousand times the  memory."
From: "Mishka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
So you cannot parse a short english sentence.
That's all.
Mishka
> even more (by a huge margin) stuff that's produced from film
> in the labs stinks.
> so?
So you are a bad printer.
Thats all.



Re: Hurrah for Shel Disrobing the Emperor

2005-04-16 Thread pnstenquist
Nonsense.


> 
> "(That is) Nonsense!" is just as much a sentence as "Damn (you)"
> 
> 
> Paul Stenquist mused:
> > 
> > Bob wins. "Nonsense" isn't an English sentence. However, "Damn" is a 
> > complete sentence if the word "da,m" is used as a verb and the doer of 
> > the action is an understood "you."
> > On Apr 16, 2005, at 10:08 AM, Bob W wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > >
> >  It's pretty hard to parse a one word sentence.
> > >>>
> > >>> Nonsense!
> > >
> > >> At least you give more than one syllable to work with.
> > >
> > > Damn.
> > >
> > > -- 
> > > Cheers,
> > >  Bob
> > >
> > 
> 



RE: unsubscribe

2005-04-16 Thread Don Sanderson
Spaeaking of dummies who send the whole digest...
SORRY!!!

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> Don
> 
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Re: RE:OT: Anybody know what this is?

2005-04-16 Thread pnstenquist
This one has a shutter. It's not an enlarging lens. I have a Wollensak Raptor 
on my Speed Graphic., but it's nowhere near that fast or that wide.


> The Wollensak Raptar was used as an enlarging lens.  Note that there's an
> area after the Wollensak name that's been blanked out.  Check to see if it
> say Dumont.
> 
> Shel 
> 
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: John Forbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Date: 4/16/2005 9:34:23 AM
> > Subject: Re: RE:OT: Anybody know what this is?
> >
> > It's certainly a shutter, with speeds from Time, Bulb, 1, etc, to 100.   
> > Not an action freezer.
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 12:17:24 -0400, David Chang-Sang  
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Looks like an old rangefinder lens - one of those old school lenses that
> > > have the shutter in the lens itself.
> > >
> > > That's my guess - what do I win if I'm correct? :-)
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Dave
> > >
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: DagT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 12:09 PM
> > >> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > >> Subject: [pdml] OT: Anybody know what this is?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I found this when going through some old stuff that my parents didn´t
> > >> want to keep.
> > >>
> > >> http://www.foto.no/diskusjon/images/154698.jpg
> > >>
> > >> DagT
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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Re: OT: Journey of Man

2005-04-16 Thread John Forbes
Fascinating.  Thanks.
John
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 01:47:54 +0800, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

Very interesting Bob. Thanks for sharing.
Dave S
On 4/17/05, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
Many of you are probably as fascinated as I am by human origins, so
I'd like to post this animation which reconstructs the spread of
people out of Africa, according to current theory. It seems to match
the paths traced by Stephen Oppenheimer in his recent book.
Warning: if you think it all started 6,000 years ago underneath an
apple tree you might not want to look at this.
http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/journey/
--
Cheers,
Bob





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Re: PESO - Mungo Lunette

2005-04-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/4/05, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:

>http://members.ozemail.com.au/~sgap/photos/paw/mungo-paw.html

Lovely.




Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_




Re: A 28-135/4 zoom opinions

2005-04-16 Thread Mark Cassino
I am evaluating this zoom and wondering if anyone out there has one and
cares to share your feelings about it.

I bought this lens a few years ago, later sold it.  It's a good performer, 
not on par with the best primes through that focal length range, but very 
good nonetheless.

A few years ago I spent a few nights up in Michigan's upper peninsula, and 
work mostly out of a kit consisting of an LX, the A 28-135, Vivitar Series 1 
19-35, Tokina 100-300 f4 (constant aperture) and A 50 f1.4.  I did break 
into the Pz-1p, and various other lenses ranging from a Sigma 14mm f 3.5 to 
the Pentax A* 400 f2.8, and F 18-28 fisheye zoom.  But the bulk of the work 
was done with the A 28-135 f4.

Some samples with this lens -
http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/skanee/sf.htm
http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/skanee/skanee03.htm
http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/skanee/skanee02.htm
http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/skanee/skanee33.htm
http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/skanee/skanee34.htm
http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/skanee/skanee36.htm
http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/skanee/skanee50.htm
http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/skanee/skanee06.htm
http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/skanee/skanee07.htm
http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/skanee/skanee11.htm
http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/skanee/skanee12.htm
http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/skanee/skanee13.htm
http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/skanee/skanee14.htm
http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/skanee/skanee15.htm
http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/skanee/skanee16.htm
http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/skanee/skanee51.htm
http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/skanee/skanee21.htm
http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/skanee/skanee22.htm
http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/skanee/skanee09.htm
http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/skanee/skanee27.htm
The only quibble I had with the lens design was that the macro function was 
at the wide end (kinda defeats the purpose of focusing closer) and it was 
easy to accidentally slip the lens out of normal shooting but not into 
macro, which would just result in unsharp images (but not so unsharp as to 
look incorrect in the finder.)

I sold off the Vivitar, the A 28-135, and the Tokina.  A large part of my 
intent with this kit was to have lenses that all used the same filter size 
(these all used 77mm filters.)  these days I would use the FA 20-35, FA 
28-105 pz, and Sigma 70-200 f2.8 or FA 80-320 to cover the same range.

HTH -
MCC
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Mark Cassino Photography
Kalamazoo, MI
www.markcassino.com
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Re: unsubscribe

2005-04-16 Thread William Robb
One more time
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Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: "Ann Sanfedele"
Subject: Re: Gone Again and a GFM note


> Well for one thing a passport now costs about $90.
makes it difficult
on the poor folk on  the borders.
I think it would be outrageous to require it at
the Canadian orMexican
border
Don't know about Washington, but I bet the mandarins in Ottawa are already 
trying to figure out how much of a cahs cow this will be.
I expect the price of passports will increase when the demand for them 
increases.

William Robb 




Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: "John Forbes" Subject: Re: Gone Again and a GFM note


Our resident ethnographer, Bob W, will correct me if I'm wrong, but the 
British army has traditionally consisted of German (Anglo-Saxon) men led 
by French (Norman) officers.

So no wonder we stymied them.
Trying to wage an expensive war on a far away continent with an 
unenthusiastic army probably didn't help.

William Robb 




RE: unsubscribe

2005-04-16 Thread Don Sanderson
WP, go HERE: http://www.pdml.net/dbrewer/p4.html
And READ it.
6th line down on the right.

Don

> -Original Message-
> From: WP Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 5:28 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
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>
>
>
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> >
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> >
> > pentax-discuss-d Digest Volume 05 :
> Issue 805
> >
> > Today's Topics:
> >   Re: PESO - Mungo Lunette  [ Boris Liberman
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   Re: PESO: Others 2005 - 16p - GDG [ Boris Liberman
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   PAW: Old and Wise [ Boris Liberman
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   OT: Journey of Man[ Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   RE: PESO PAW - Fire Eating Drummer[ "Markus Maurer"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   Re: OT: Journey of Man[ David Savage
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   RE: ist-D Focus Woes, Please Help![ "Don Sanderson"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   RE: PESO: Others 2005 - 16p - GDG [ "Markus Maurer"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   RE: Old and Wise  [ "Markus Maurer"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   Re: PAW: Old and Wise [ Keith Whaley
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   Re: IR with *istDS[ "Greg Cooper"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   Re: Gone Again and a GFM note [ "John Francis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   Re: Hurrah for Shel Disrobing the Em  [ "John Francis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   Re: Where's Cotty?[ "John Francis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   Re: ist-D Focus Woes, Please Help![ "Peter J. Alling"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   Re: Demise of M/F [ Norman Baugher
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   Re: Just a couple of scanned shots f  [ Norman Baugher
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   Salgado speaks!   [ Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   Re: L plate for *istD [ "Kenneth Waller"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   Re: PESO - Mungo Lunette  [ "Kenneth Waller"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   RE:OT: Anybody know what this is? [ "Collin Brendemuehl"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   Re: Others 2005 - 16p - GDG   [ "Kenneth Waller"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   Re: Where's Cotty?[ Keith Whaley
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   Re: Hurrah for Shel Disrobing the Em  [ "William Robb"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >
> > --
> >
> > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 20:31:32 +0200
> > From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Subject: Re: PESO - Mungo Lunette
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > > This is the result.  It's still not quite true to the original but
> > > it's getting there.
> > >
> > > Comments, of course, are welcome.  Click on the "i" icon for technical
> > > and other info.
> > >
> > >
> > > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~sgap/photos/paw/mungo-paw.html
> >
> > Brian, technicalities aside, this is lovely picture. If you dislike the
> > way this lab treats your films, you can always go to another one, but
> > that's totally unrelated story.
> >
> > Clear winner here.
> >
> > Boris
> >
> > --
> >
> > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 20:35:43 +0200
> > From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Subject: Re: PESO: Others 2005 - 16p - GDG
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > > Continuing work on a number of static, textural compositions ...
> > >
> > >   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/16p.htm
> > >
> > > Comments always appreciated.
> >
> > It looks quite textural on my screen...
> >
> > I should say I like it more than the previous one of the series you
> > posted. However, I do remember it, so it wasn't bad at all anyway.
> >
> > You know, I realize you may have some kind of a goal with this series.
> > I've seen only few shots and it feels like I see pieces of a
> jigsaw that
> > I still cannot see as a whole... I am fascinated... In my own peculiar
> > way...
> >
> > Boris
> >
> > --
> >
> > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 20:38:14 +0200
> > From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Subject: PAW: Old and Wise
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > Went to shoot some macro today. Very little luck with rather constant
> > very soft but annoying breeze...
> >
> > My wife and daughter spotted this guy behind the window of the closed
> > restaurant. Perhaps I will make a print and hand it to the owners...
> >
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/bo

RE: unsubscribe

2005-04-16 Thread Shel Belinkoff
It's always nice to send a complete digest to the list.  You can't
unsubscribe by sending messages to the list. 

Shel 


> [Original Message]
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> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> > pentax-discuss-d Digest Volume 05 : Issue 805
> > 
> > Today's Topics:
> >   Re: PESO - Mungo Lunette  [ Boris Liberman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   Re: PESO: Others 2005 - 16p - GDG [ Boris Liberman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   PAW: Old and Wise [ Boris Liberman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   OT: Journey of Man[ Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   RE: PESO PAW - Fire Eating Drummer[ "Markus Maurer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   Re: OT: Journey of Man[ David Savage
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   RE: ist-D Focus Woes, Please Help![ "Don Sanderson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   RE: PESO: Others 2005 - 16p - GDG [ "Markus Maurer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   RE: Old and Wise  [ "Markus Maurer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   Re: PAW: Old and Wise [ Keith Whaley
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   Re: IR with *istDS[ "Greg Cooper"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   Re: Gone Again and a GFM note [ "John Francis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   Re: Hurrah for Shel Disrobing the Em  [ "John Francis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   Re: Where's Cotty?[ "John Francis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   Re: ist-D Focus Woes, Please Help![ "Peter J. Alling"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   Re: Demise of M/F [ Norman Baugher
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   Re: Just a couple of scanned shots f  [ Norman Baugher
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   Salgado speaks!   [ Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   Re: L plate for *istD [ "Kenneth Waller"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   Re: PESO - Mungo Lunette  [ "Kenneth Waller"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   RE:OT: Anybody know what this is? [ "Collin Brendemuehl"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   Re: Others 2005 - 16p - GDG   [ "Kenneth Waller"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   Re: Where's Cotty?[ Keith Whaley
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   Re: Hurrah for Shel Disrobing the Em  [ "William Robb"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 20:31:32 +0200
> > From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Subject: Re: PESO - Mungo Lunette
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > 
> > Hi!
> > 
> > > This is the result.  It's still not quite true to the original but
> > > it's getting there.
> > > 
> > > Comments, of course, are welcome.  Click on the "i" icon for technical
> > > and other info.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~sgap/photos/paw/mungo-paw.html
> > 
> > Brian, technicalities aside, this is lovely picture. If you dislike the 
> > way this lab treats your films, you can always go to another one, but 
> > that's totally unrelated story.
> > 
> > Clear winner here.
> > 
> > Boris
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 20:35:43 +0200
> > From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Subject: Re: PESO: Others 2005 - 16p - GDG
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > 
> > Hi!
> > 
> > > Continuing work on a number of static, textural compositions ...
> > > 
> > >   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/16p.htm
> > > 
> > > Comments always appreciated.
> > 
> > It looks quite textural on my screen...
> > 
> > I should say I like it more than the previous one of the series you 
> > posted. However, I do remember it, so it wasn't bad at all anyway.
> > 
> > You know, I realize you may have some kind of a goal with this series. 
> > I've seen only few shots and it feels like I see pieces of a jigsaw
that 
> > I still cannot see as a whole... I am fascinated... In my own peculiar 
> > way...
> > 
> > Boris
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 20:38:14 +0200
> > From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Subject: PAW: Old and Wise
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > 
> > Hi!
> > 
> > Went to shoot some macro today. Very little luck with rather constant 
> > very soft but annoying breeze...
> > 
> > My wife and daughter spotted this guy behind the window of the closed 
> > restaurant. Perhaps I will make a print and hand it to the owners...
> > 
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/boris71/9571234/
> > 
> > What do you 

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2005-04-16 Thread WP Wood

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> 
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> pentax-discuss-d Digest   Volume 05 : Issue 805
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> Today's Topics:
>   Re: PESO - Mungo Lunette  [ Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Re: PESO: Others 2005 - 16p - GDG [ Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   PAW: Old and Wise [ Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   OT: Journey of Man[ Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   RE: PESO PAW - Fire Eating Drummer[ "Markus Maurer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> ]
>   Re: OT: Journey of Man[ David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   RE: ist-D Focus Woes, Please Help![ "Don Sanderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   RE: PESO: Others 2005 - 16p - GDG [ "Markus Maurer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> ]
>   RE: Old and Wise  [ "Markus Maurer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> ]
>   Re: PAW: Old and Wise [ Keith Whaley <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   Re: IR with *istDS[ "Greg Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   Re: Gone Again and a GFM note [ "John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Re: Hurrah for Shel Disrobing the Em  [ "John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Re: Where's Cotty?[ "John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Re: ist-D Focus Woes, Please Help![ "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED] ]
>   Re: Demise of M/F [ Norman Baugher <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   Re: Just a couple of scanned shots f  [ Norman Baugher <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   Salgado speaks!   [ Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Re: L plate for *istD [ "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> ]
>   Re: PESO - Mungo Lunette  [ "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> ]
>   RE:OT: Anybody know what this is? [ "Collin Brendemuehl" <[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED] ]
>   Re: Others 2005 - 16p - GDG   [ "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> ]
>   Re: Where's Cotty?[ Keith Whaley <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   Re: Hurrah for Shel Disrobing the Em  [ "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> 
> --
> 
> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 20:31:32 +0200
> From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: PESO - Mungo Lunette
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> 
> Hi!
> 
> > This is the result.  It's still not quite true to the original but
> > it's getting there.
> > 
> > Comments, of course, are welcome.  Click on the "i" icon for technical
> > and other info.
> > 
> > 
> > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~sgap/photos/paw/mungo-paw.html
> 
> Brian, technicalities aside, this is lovely picture. If you dislike the 
> way this lab treats your films, you can always go to another one, but 
> that's totally unrelated story.
> 
> Clear winner here.
> 
> Boris
> 
> --
> 
> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 20:35:43 +0200
> From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: PESO: Others 2005 - 16p - GDG
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> 
> Hi!
> 
> > Continuing work on a number of static, textural compositions ...
> > 
> >   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/16p.htm
> > 
> > Comments always appreciated.
> 
> It looks quite textural on my screen...
> 
> I should say I like it more than the previous one of the series you 
> posted. However, I do remember it, so it wasn't bad at all anyway.
> 
> You know, I realize you may have some kind of a goal with this series. 
> I've seen only few shots and it feels like I see pieces of a jigsaw that 
> I still cannot see as a whole... I am fascinated... In my own peculiar 
> way...
> 
> Boris
> 
> --
> 
> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 20:38:14 +0200
> From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: PAW: Old and Wise
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Went to shoot some macro today. Very little luck with rather constant 
> very soft but annoying breeze...
> 
> My wife and daughter spotted this guy behind the window of the closed 
> restaurant. Perhaps I will make a print and hand it to the owners...
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/boris71/9571234/
> 
> What do you say?
> 
> Boris
> 
> --
> 
> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 18:42:00 +0100
> From: Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: OT: Journey of Man
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Many of you are probably as fascinated as I am by human origins, so
> I'd like to post this animation which reconstructs the s

Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-16 Thread John Forbes
Our resident ethnographer, Bob W, will correct me if I'm wrong, but the  
British army has traditionally consisted of German (Anglo-Saxon) men led  
by French (Norman) officers.

So no wonder we stymied them.
John
PS:  It's still the same today, after nearly a thousand years.  We have  
generals with names like De la Billliere, and men with names like Miller.

On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 18:03:34 -0400, Peter J. Alling  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

The French and Germans governments are trying to do something in law  
they were never able to do with military force, because the British  
always managed to stop them. Bob W wrote:

Hi,
[...]
I personally do not see what is the big outcry about passports. You  
intend to
vote, you register to vote. You intend to drive a vehicle, you get a  
driver's
licence. You intend to travel to another country, you get a passport.
Acquiring the appropriate documents to do certain things has been a  
fact of
life, worldwide, for a very long time now -- and passports in  
particular are
nothing new.

[...]
We're trying to do away with them in Yurp.



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Re: A 28-135/4 zoom opinions

2005-04-16 Thread Fred
>> I am evaluating this zoom and wondering if anyone out there has one and
>> cares to share your feelings about it.

> Fred likes it. It has a great reputation.

Indeed!  (Hi, Bob.)  I think it's a really neat lens.  Despite its weight
(which always seems to bother other people more than it bothers me), it's
my favorite "walking around" lens.  (For "light traveling", this lens, plus
the A 20/2.8 and either the A* 300/4 or the F* 300/4.5, make up a kit that
handles almost all situations.)  It also makes a good "wedding lens"
(although the f/4 speed is not ideal indoors if the light is dim).
Although it ~is~ a zoom, I think it commends itself nicely for all-around
use.  (Of course, a pocketful of primes are always going to beat it...)  I
find that it is just as good as its sibling, the highly-touted (here on the
PDML) A 35-105/3.5, and I gladly take the loss of a fraction of stop of
speed in order to get the greater FL range (I no longer own any
35-105/3.5's).

I've appended below a quote of a review of this lens (tested along with the
Super A, Motor Drive A, and AF200T) from Amateur Photographer for August 6,
1983).

Fred

===

"28-135mm must be the most versatile 'standard lens' around. Other examples
of this focal length are on the way but Pentax were first on the scene."

"The lens incorporates most popular wideangle and telephoto lengths, plus
everything in between. The f/4 aperture is modest but quite good
considering the range. It's a fairly large lens and very heavy, but feels
comparatively well balanced on camera."

"Focusing ring is large with a chunky grip, with minimum focusing distance
of 1.7 m. Behind this, the zooming ring has a short throw (like the focusing
ring) with a click stop at the 28mm setting. Turning past this click stop
engages the 'macro' mode, which enables focusing down to under 8 in. Because
the focal length at this setting is still wideangle, this isn't
particularly close and well off true 1:1 macro."

"Focusing and zooming controls on our sample were not particularly smooth;
the zooming ring was also a little stiff. Despite this, the short twist
required to zoom or focus makes for fast handling. Overall, the lens is
built to a high standard."

"Filter size of 77mm means more expensive filters - but this can't really
be avoided if you want the range and decent working maximum aperture."

"Handling is fast and generally as good as a lens of much shorter range. It
matches well with the Super A body."

"It's one thing to design a lens with such a long range, but quite another
to build in good performance. here the Pentax comes as a pleasant
surprise."

"Definition was very adequate throughout, with edge performance lagging
just a little behind the centre. Softness was evident at full aperture and
one stop down (f/5.6) at the edge, but otherwise the lens will cope with
most assignments on any type of film."

"The 28-135mm lens is expensive but takes the place of three or four other
lenses comfortably."

"Overall Performance - Very Good"
"Central Definition - Very Good"
"Edge Definition - Good"
"Image Contrast - Very Good"
"Optical balance - Good"
"Best Central Definition - f/8, f/11, f/16"
"Best Overall Definition - f/11"
"Best Edge Definition - f/11"

===




Small enablement

2005-04-16 Thread Jens Bladt
My Tokina AT-X 2.6-2.8/28-70mm came back from repair yesterday. It still
didin't focus at infinity at 28mm  - and it had a new wierd sound when
focussing. I took it apart and found a loose screw inside :-(. And I
couldn't fix the focus. So, bought a brand new one at ebay (NIB: 250 USD +
shipping). Not a lot of money for a very sharp and fast AF zoom lens. It may
not be the best focal length for the *ist D (42-105mm), but it certainly is
an excellent lens, which I have often missed since January. I'll have it in
a week or so - all the way from California. I just hope the Danish tax
authoryties skip this one - 'cause they will add annother 100 USD :-(
Jens Bladt

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt





RE: Enablement Dilemma

2005-04-16 Thread Amita Guha
>   Tamron SP AF17-35MM F/2.8-4 Di

My husband wanted to get this lens for his Digital Rebel, and he did a lot
of research on lenses in this range. It got great reviews from Canon users
on the DPreview boards. He ended up trying multiple copies of both the
Tamron and Sigma's offering in the same range. He says that with the Tamron,
the problem was edge sharpness, and with the Sigma, he always had focusing
problems. Of course, the Sigma could have had focusing problems because
Canon puts the focusing mechanism on the lens and not the body like Pentax
does.

This all happened in December 2004. Nate thinks, from looking at reviews,
that Tamron might have put out a bad batch of lenses early on. He ended up
springing for the Canon 17-40mm, and he has no regrets. Apparently there are
still people on the DPreview boards who swear by the Tamron. 

I understand your dilemma of wanting to put the lens on a film body. I only
buy full-frame lenses, partly for that reason, but I think I'm in the
minority on this list. 

Hope this helps,

Amita




Re: Where's Cotty?

2005-04-16 Thread Keith Whaley

Cotty wrote:
On 16/4/05, Keith Whaley, discombobulated, unleashed:

Uhhh, you're telling me, Rover as a CAR does not exist anymore? Nobody 
makes one? Of any kind?

Same for Land Rover? Are they going to have to recall Cotty's?  Oh dear!

Land Rover is a separate company and belongs to a certain USA manufacturer !!
Cheers,
  Cotty
All of which is to say, no more black Rovers outside #10 Downing St, or 
parked in rows in nearby parking lots...
I cherish many of those memories. Back when the UK was a force in the 
sports saloon industry.
I lament all that being gone now...

S...s..sob...
keith


Re: Hurrah for Shel Disrobing the Emperor

2005-04-16 Thread John Forbes
Help?
John
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 21:36:52 +, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yes, that's the way the word "damn" is generally used. But any active  
verb that stands alone takes an understood "you" as the subject.


Surely it's short for "May God damn you".  The understood "you" is the
object, whilst the good Lord is the subject.
John
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 10:33:39 -0400, Paul Stenquist
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bob wins. "Nonsense" isn't an English sentence. However, "Damn" is a
> complete sentence if the word "da,m" is used as a verb and the doer of
> the action is an understood "you."
> On Apr 16, 2005, at 10:08 AM, Bob W wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
> It's pretty hard to parse a one word sentence.

 Nonsense!
>>
>>> At least you give more than one syllable to work with.
>>
>> Damn.
>>
>> -- Cheers,
>>  Bob
>>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-16 Thread Peter J. Alling
The French and Germans governments are trying to do something in law 
they were never able to do with military force, because the British 
always managed to stop them. 

Bob W wrote:
Hi,
[...]
 

I personally do not see what is the big outcry about passports. You intend to
vote, you register to vote. You intend to drive a vehicle, you get a driver's
licence. You intend to travel to another country, you get a passport.
Acquiring the appropriate documents to do certain things has been a fact of
life, worldwide, for a very long time now -- and passports in particular are
nothing new.
   

[...]
We're trying to do away with them in Yurp.
 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




closer & closer

2005-04-16 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl
I see the *istDS body on eBay for about $700
So ... what to part with?
Anyone want a cherry KX with K55/1.8 & case for $150?
(700-150 == 550)
Now what else to part with 




Re: Where's Cotty?

2005-04-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/4/05, Keith Whaley, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Uhhh, you're telling me, Rover as a CAR does not exist anymore? Nobody 
>makes one? Of any kind?
>
>Same for Land Rover? Are they going to have to recall Cotty's?  Oh dear!

Land Rover is a separate company and belongs to a certain USA manufacturer !!




Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_




Re: Where's Cotty?

2005-04-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/4/05, Keith Whaley, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I read in today's paper of the imminent breakup of MG Rover.
>Last large car maker in the UK.
>
>Sad that!
>They said some 5000 will lose their jobs.
>
>Will Rover be able to survive on it's own?

Sad but true.

Longbridge is up in Birmingham - our ITV company covers it but not our
bit - we're too far south. I only know what is in the public domain.

Looks like saving it was well-intentioned, but to be honest, the
directors didn't exactly hold back on pulling cash and commercially
viable aspects out of it before the plug was pulled :-/




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Hurrah for Shel Disrobing the Emperor

2005-04-16 Thread pnstenquist
Yes, that's the way the word "damn" is generally used. But any active verb that 
stands alone takes an understood "you" as the subject. 


> Surely it's short for "May God damn you".  The understood "you" is the  
> object, whilst the good Lord is the subject.
> 
> John
> 
> On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 10:33:39 -0400, Paul Stenquist  
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Bob wins. "Nonsense" isn't an English sentence. However, "Damn" is a  
> > complete sentence if the word "da,m" is used as a verb and the doer of  
> > the action is an understood "you."
> > On Apr 16, 2005, at 10:08 AM, Bob W wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> > It's pretty hard to parse a one word sentence.
> 
>  Nonsense!
> >>
> >>> At least you give more than one syllable to work with.
> >>
> >> Damn.
> >>
> >> -- Cheers,
> >>  Bob
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
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Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-16 Thread Ann Sanfedele
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Quoting John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > It's of little interest to citizens of other foreign countries;
> > for them, passports are already required.  I'm not sure whether
> > my resident alien card (aka green card) is sufficient; I always
> > use my passport, just to be sure.
> 
> Back when I had a green card, it usually was sufficient.
> However, that was way before September 2001 ... Perhaps some things have
> already changed in that area.
> I personally do not see what is the big outcry about passports. You intend to
> vote, you register to vote. You intend to drive a vehicle, you get a driver's
> licence. You intend to travel to another country, you get a passport.

Well for one thing a passport now costs about $90.
makes it difficult
on the poor folk on  the borders.

I think it would be outrageous to require it at
the Canadian orMexican
border

ann


> Acquiring the appropriate documents to do certain things has been a fact of
> life, worldwide, for a very long time now -- and passports in particular are
> nothing new.
> Looks like they're planning to access some frequent-traveller alternate IDs
> at the land borders in lieu of passports, anyway.
> (OnT content: You can take the passport picture with a Pentax. I've done 'em
> for all my immediate family and a friend or two.)
> 
> ERNR



RE: Where's Cotty?

2005-04-16 Thread Rob Brigham
MG Rover was the remainder of British Leyland I believe, after Jaguar & some 
other bits were extracted from the group in the late eighties.  British Leyland 
was formed I think when all the UK manufacturers were in trouble with the idea 
that together they could survive.  MG Rover had some tie ins with Honda in the 
early nineties, before being sold to BMW who really wanted the Land Rover 
business.  They made masseive losses on the rest of the group, so sold MG Rover 
for £10 to a rescue consortium of British wheeler dealers.  BMW had already 
sold Land Rover to Ford after milking their knowledge of Off-Roaders, and Kept 
mini which is doing good business.

MG recently has only been a badge for the 'sporty' Rovers, and there will be no 
more MGs, or Rovers unless or until someone buys the names.  MG racing which 
was separate has also ceased most of its activities as I thibnk it depended on 
money from the main group.

-Original Message-
From: Keith Whaley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 April 2005 20:35
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Where's Cotty?




John Francis wrote:
> Keith Whaley mused:
> 
>>I read in today's paper of the imminent breakup of MG Rover. Last 
>>large car maker in the UK.
>>
>>Sad that!
>>They said some 5000 will lose their jobs.
>>
>>Will Rover be able to survive on it's own?

> There is no "Rover" as a separate entity.
> 
> Land Rover hasn't been part of the Rover group for some time.

Uhhh, you're telling me, Rover as a CAR does not exist anymore? Nobody 
makes one? Of any kind?

Same for Land Rover? Are they going to have to recall Cotty's?  Oh dear!

Hmmm.  Next thing you'll be tryingto tell me is that there's no MG 
anymore!  Soighhh.

Good thing I've got several books describing (and picturing) those good 
ol' days, or all my memories would be gone!

keith




RE: Tan's Ride - our new site is Live!!

2005-04-16 Thread Tan and Steve

Thanks so much for taking the time to comment Markus!  I must say I'm a
little disheartened by the lack of support from list members.  I guess maybe
it is due to me not posting or contributing to Pentax related discussions as
regularly anymore as I am so busy with work, but I've always thought of the
people on the list as a kind of pseudo family - particularly those who I met
at GFM, and we have received precisely two responses from my post - one from
yourself and one from a very wonderful lurker who I have never met, but who
has given us a very generous donation!!  So, at least we know that the
Paymate option works fine as this lurker is in the UK, but I really thought
there would be more interest from others, and especially the list
"regulars".

I was so excited to have the site up, and although I do understand that it
was completely off topic, I rushed within 5 minutes of it going Live to send
an email to the list to share my excitement with everyone!

I am truly hoping that it is just a symptom of busy people leading busy
lives and hopefully not one of people not caring about the kids we are
trying to save.

Anyways, thankyou so very much for taking the time to view the site and to
offer your comments and support!  I'm not sure why you are having problems
with the font - we chose that font to give the site some quirkiness and to
look appealing to kids and families.  Due to the way we have done the
template and to ensure that it always displays correctly, where ever you see
the font, it is actually a jpg or gif that has been added rather than using
text.  So, I honestly have no idea why it would look soft or two small.  My
monitors are set to 1280 x1024, and these are the monitors that I put the
site together on, and I view them really easily.  In fact, I was concerned
that it  may have been two big in places on lesser resolutioned monitors.
If you have any thoughts on how I may correct the problem, I would love to
hear them - we really want it to be accessible and aesthetic to everyone
viewing it (remember, we WANT them to hang around for a bit and hopefully
leave a donation, or make a purchase!).

Thanks again Markus, it is very much appreciated!!

tan. :)

Tanya Mayer Photography

Brisbane, Qld, Australia
www.tanyamayer.com
Ph +61 (07) 3315 4549


-Original Message-
From: Markus Maurer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 16 April 2005 7:20 PM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: RE: Tan's Ride - our new site is Live!!


Hi Tan
Congratulation on your work and I wish you all the best with your project.
I just had a first glance at the site and will comment in more detail later
and have a look at the photos ;-).
At first sight, I struggle to read the menu easily. It does indeed look good
but the font are not very sharp
here and a bit too small (for me) on my 2 monitors at 1280x960. Otherwise a
very aesthetic site.

greetings
Markus


>>Woohoo!! Guys and gals!! Remember our big ride across Australia
>>that we are
>>doing for charity?? Well, after many late nights and lotsa teeth grinding,
>>
>>www.headwindsanddreams.com
>>tan.:)





Re: The Decline and Fall of the Photograph

2005-04-16 Thread Cotty
I've always said that I only make pics for myself, and if someone else
likes them, too bad.

Looks like I got lucky!


Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__
||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_




Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-16 Thread Bob W
Hi,

[...]
> I personally do not see what is the big outcry about passports. You intend to
> vote, you register to vote. You intend to drive a vehicle, you get a driver's
> licence. You intend to travel to another country, you get a passport.
> Acquiring the appropriate documents to do certain things has been a fact of
> life, worldwide, for a very long time now -- and passports in particular are
> nothing new.
[...]

We're trying to do away with them in Yurp.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob



Re: Hurrah for Shel Disrobing the Emperor

2005-04-16 Thread Bob W
Hi,

Saturday, April 16, 2005, 8:27:16 PM, William wrote:


> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bob W" Subject: Re: Hurrah for Shel Disrobing the Emperor


>> Hi,
>> 
> It's pretty hard to parse a one word sentence.
 
 Nonsense!
>> 
>>> At least you give more than one syllable to work with.
>> 
>> Damn.

> At least you give more than two letters to work with.

Si!

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob



ist-D Focus Woes, More Info.

2005-04-16 Thread Don Sanderson
I'm not sure if I need a camera repairman or a psychologist
but here goes.
I tried A50/1.4, the FA50/1.7 and the DA 16-45 on a 
yardstick from about 3 feet away.
Manual or autofocus were all spot on in 24 shots.


I took the 2 AF lenses outside and took shots of the
flowers, weeds, leaves etc. I found  in the grass.
The reason I chose these is that the grass shows clearly
whether focus was right on, long, or short.
It's a bright but overcast day so light is very even,
speeds were between 1/125th and 1/500th.
Shots at maximum aperture, AND the FA50/1.7 at 4.0.
I kept the intended subject centered in the viewfinder
to make it obvious what I was aiming at.

Here's the score:
FA50/1.7 at 1.7, 20 misses out of 24, almost all were
focused long. (Past the intended point)

FA50/1.7 at 4.0, 14 misses out of 24, again almost all
were long.

DA16-45/4.0 at 45/4.0, *2* misses out of 24, one was
long, one was short.

Again, all looked sharp in the viewfinder, if it was an
obvious 'miss' I let the lens re-focus.
OK, so the DA is my hero. ;-/
Any theories as to the extreme inconsistency in the
FA50 (And A50) ???

And the main question:.
HOW can a viewfinder lie, but only SOMETIMES??

Don (The Thoroughly Frustrated)

PS: I have straight from the camera samples to prove
I'm not just on "Happy Weed". ;-)



Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-16 Thread ernreed2
Quoting John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> It's of little interest to citizens of other foreign countries;
> for them, passports are already required.  I'm not sure whether
> my resident alien card (aka green card) is sufficient; I always
> use my passport, just to be sure.

Back when I had a green card, it usually was sufficient.
However, that was way before September 2001 ... Perhaps some things have 
already changed in that area.
I personally do not see what is the big outcry about passports. You intend to 
vote, you register to vote. You intend to drive a vehicle, you get a driver's 
licence. You intend to travel to another country, you get a passport. 
Acquiring the appropriate documents to do certain things has been a fact of 
life, worldwide, for a very long time now -- and passports in particular are 
nothing new.
Looks like they're planning to access some frequent-traveller alternate IDs 
at the land borders in lieu of passports, anyway.
(OnT content: You can take the passport picture with a Pentax. I've done 'em 
for all my immediate family and a friend or two.)

ERNR




Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Stenquist" Subject: Re: Gone Again and a GFM note


I doubt that. The suggested rule will almost certainly be amended to 
exclude any additional requirements for Canadian citizens. The US auto 
industry immediately screamed foul  when the passport requirement was 
suggested. Hundreds of truckloads of Canadian made auto components are 
delivered over  the bridges into Michigan every day. No one wants to hamper 
that flow. What's more, Bush has come out in favor of lifting restrictions 
on Canadian beef. The US needs to maintain good trade relations with 
Canada. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the United States imports more 
foreign goods than any other country in the world. There are times when 
measures have to be taken to guard against dumping, but in general our 
trade regulations are quite liberal. The bureaucrats who originally 
proposed the passport requirements where thinking in terms of protecting 
the borders from terrorist infiltration. I doubt that anyone had 
protectionist intentions.
Sorry, it's my suspicious nature.
The problem with your trade regulations is that you have a system in place 
that allows you to not keep the deals you make.
At some point, we'll just find trading partners that can be trusted.

William Robb 




Re: Hurrah for Shel Disrobing the Emperor

2005-04-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: "Bob W" Subject: Re: Hurrah for Shel Disrobing the Emperor


Hi,
It's pretty hard to parse a one word sentence.
Nonsense!

At least you give more than one syllable to work with.
Damn.
At least you give more than two letters to work with.
William Robb


Re: Anybody know what this is?

2005-04-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - 
From: "DagT"
Subject: OT: Anybody know what this is?


I found this when going through some old stuff that my parents didn´t want 
to keep.

http://www.foto.no/diskusjon/images/154698.jpg
Its a Wollensak Raptar 50mm f/1.5 lens in an Alphax shutter.
It's probably out of a small (2 1/4 x 3 1/4)  Graflex camera.
William Robb



Re: Where's Cotty?

2005-04-16 Thread Keith Whaley

John Francis wrote:
Keith Whaley mused:
I read in today's paper of the imminent breakup of MG Rover.
Last large car maker in the UK.
Sad that!
They said some 5000 will lose their jobs.
Will Rover be able to survive on it's own?

There is no "Rover" as a separate entity.
Land Rover hasn't been part of the Rover group for some time.
Uhhh, you're telling me, Rover as a CAR does not exist anymore? Nobody 
makes one? Of any kind?

Same for Land Rover? Are they going to have to recall Cotty's?  Oh dear!
Hmmm.  Next thing you'll be tryingto tell me is that there's no MG 
anymore!  Soighhh.

Good thing I've got several books describing (and picturing) those good 
ol' days, or all my memories would be gone!

keith


Re: Others 2005 - 16p - GDG

2005-04-16 Thread Kenneth Waller
Godfrey, my only comment for what its worth is that the inclusion of the
background in the ULH corner is distracting. Perhaps it lends itself to
something you're trying to convey, but taken as an image of a weathered wood
fence and gate with hinge - its distracting.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message -
From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PDML" 
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 12:25 PM
Subject: PESO: Others 2005 - 16p - GDG


> Continuing work on a number of static, textural compositions ...
>
>http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/16p.htm
>
> Comments always appreciated.
>
> enjoy
> Godfrey
>



RE:OT: Anybody know what this is?

2005-04-16 Thread Collin Brendemuehl

In that type of shutter, it looks like wide angle lens for a 2x3 (or 
thereabouts) press camera.   It certainly has the age.

Sincerely,

C. Brendemuehl

Caveat:  This information should be viewed critically.  It may merit as much 
technical excellence as a CBS news report.
 





Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net


 
   



Re: PESO - Mungo Lunette

2005-04-16 Thread Kenneth Waller
Nice capture. Good exposure & composition. The sky looks somewhat unreal
tho.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message -
From: "Brian Walters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 7:54 AM
Subject: PESO - Mungo Lunette


> I suppose this should be a PESMOS (Photo Every Six Months or So) but
> I'll try to contribute more frequently in future..
>
> This photo was taken several years ago at Mungo National Park in south
> western New South Wales, an area of spectacular landforms and
> historical importance.  I was only there for two days, one of which
> was a howling dust storm so I only managed a few photos.  This is
> about the best of them.
>
> I had it scanned to Kodak Photo CD format but the result was truly
> awful - dark and murky with all of the colour leached out.  I tried
> to improve it in an image processing program with little success so I
> forgot about it until I rediscovered it recently while looking for
> another image on the CD.   As my skills with Photoshop Elements are
> gradually improving, I decided to have another go at restoring some
> of the impact of the original slide.
>
> This is the result.  It's still not quite true to the original but
> it's getting there.
>
> Comments, of course, are welcome.  Click on the "i" icon for technical
> and other info.
>
>
> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~sgap/photos/paw/mungo-paw.html
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> 
>
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney, Australia
>
>
>



Re: L plate for *istD

2005-04-16 Thread Kenneth Waller
> And there is no reference to *istD compatible L bracket in Kirk site.
Call them and tell them what you have and want. The L bracket I  got was not
*ist D specific, it was for any camera that had one of their arca swiss
mounting plates.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message -
From: "Ramesh Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: L plate for *istD


> Herb,
> Thanks for sharing your experience. I have SLIK 700DX tripod &
I
> want to make sure RRS & works with my existing ball head.  My QR plate
looks
> like this..
> http://www.thkphoto.com/products/slik/photos-t/SLIK_6125QUICK.jpg
>
> I think I need the fallowing, ls let me know if this is really the right
> stuff...
> 1) RRS Pano clamp ( PCL-1 3/8)   & RRS Rails (MPR-CL II )
> 2) Kirk L bracket for *istd
>
> RRS Pano clamp comes in two versions PCL - 1 3/8 and 1/4"-20 version.
> I think I should go for  PCL - 1 3/8.
>
> And there is no reference to *istD compatible L bracket in Kirk site.
>
> Thanks
> Ramesh
>
>
> >From: "Herb Chong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> >To: 
> >Subject: Re:  L plate for *istD
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> >that's not just an L plate. i have the Kirk Photo Big L mentioned
elsewhere
> >and don't use it. it is designed for a much larger camera and sticks out
> >way too far to the right when mounted. also, it blocks all of the normal
> >access ports needed to change batteries, etc. the Really Right Stuff
image
> >you show requires an Arca Swiss plate mounted on the body. RRS doesn't
make
> >such a plate, but Kirk does for the *istD. i have a pair of the RRS
> >panorama clamps and the RRS B-16 adapter plate to do highly accurate
> >panoramas. the B-16 plate attaches and removes easily with no tools,
while
> >the Kirk Big L plate requires a hex key to install and remove.
> >
> >Herb
> >- Original Message - From: "Ramesh Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: 
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:12 AM
> >Subject: L plate for *istD
> >
> >
> >>How to mount the *istD on tripd in prortarit mode like this?
> >>http://www.reallyrightstuff.com/pano/horiz/horiz_panos_L-plate.jpg
> >>
> >>I thought of using L plate. Pls let me know, if any company makes it.
> >
>
>



Salgado speaks!

2005-04-16 Thread Bob W
Hi,

there's a very long feature about Salgado in the current edition of
the New Yorker.

Their website has a recording and slide show:
http://www.newyorker.com/online/covers/articles/050418onco_covers_gallery

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob



Re: Just a couple of scanned shots from my Honduran trip.

2005-04-16 Thread Norman Baugher
Cool stuff, but the colors seem a bit wanky on my monitor (not the lizard).
Norm
Cesar wrote:
Before I sit down to go through another 14 rolls of film from my trip, 
I figure I would put up a couple of early scans.
The two shots up at the moment are
   
http://groups.msn.com/MyRugbyPictures/scannedhonduras.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=15 

and
   
http://groups.msn.com/MyRugbyPictures/scannedhonduras.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=16 

Both shots should have been taken with the 77 Limited lens on an LX 
and a monopod.

This lens has taken its share of use and travel in its life with me.  
This trip was just a bit much for it.  Its focusing is loose.  I just 
have to get up the courage to go into it - any hints?

I really am going to scan, really!!
César
Panama City, Florida




Re: Demise of M/F

2005-04-16 Thread Norman Baugher
LOL. Just remember Cesar, if you're going to get a 6x7 make sure it's 
NOT a pretty one like Bob's, but rather one slightly brassed like 
mine... And I do not plan on modeling this year, I fear I've aged past 
my prime.
Norm (get out of my van) B.

Cesar wrote:
Norm!
Muito bem!
I have not had the time, but I am still looking for a 6x7 kit to join 
you guys at GFMtn.  I don't want to mooch from others (thanks Bob) 
this trip.  I don't want people to avoid me - for that reason at least 
  Hmmm, how many 35mm cameras would be a good deposit to use a 
6x7???

Bowing to my superior in model shoot posing,
César
Panama City, Florida
Norman Baugher wrote:
HAR! That's my boy
Verdade.
Norm
Bill Lawlor wrote:
I saw a presentation a few months ago by Sebastao Salgado.  
When asked about digital he said "There is no black and white in 
digital. Converted color images don't compare with true black and 
white."






Re: ist-D Focus Woes, Please Help!

2005-04-16 Thread Peter J. Alling
I don't suspect the mirror, autofocus is as dependent on the mirror as 
is manual focus.  However the autofocus in Pentax cameras is below the 
mirror and follows a different light path than the view through the 
pentaprism.  I suspect that the ground glass is in a different effective 
plane than the autofocus sensor and both are out of sync with the sensor. 

Paul Stenquist wrote:
Hmmm. Well, the autofocus shots are a lot closer than the manual focus 
shots. Other than that, it's hard to draw many conclusions from this. 
I guess you should have your camera checked out. It seems to be 
causing you a lot of problems and aggravation. Since the autofocus  
shots are closer than the manual, I suppose the mirror is a suspect. 
Have you ever dropped the camera?
Paul
On Apr 16, 2005, at 11:46 AM, Don Sanderson wrote:

http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/50web/index.htm
This is a small gallery of 11 shots I took this morning.
The last one (FocusPoint.jpg) shows the point I had
the camera, in spot focus mode, aimed at.
The first 5 (141-145.jpg) are manually focused shots
taken with the A50/1.4 at 1/2000 and 1.4.
The next 5 are taken with the FA50/1.7 at 1/2000 and
1.7. I allowed this lens to autofocus.
Mounted on a solid tripod, on concrete,
2sec mirror prefire.
Focus wanders all over.
Technique the same for all, hold my hand in front of
the 1.7 to de-focus, allow it to focus and shoot.
The 1.4 I manually de-focused, re-focused and shot.
Shot as large .jpg, cropped and 'auto-levels' in PS
Elements. No sharpening in-camera or in PS.
Gallery created in Elements.
This seems to happen frequently with any 50mm or
shorter lens, especially wide open. The problem
is probably just more evident with shallow DOF.
***ALL of the shots looked sharp in the viewfinder!***
If they didn't because AF 'missed' I de-focused and
tried again.
Any ideas? I thought maybe the mirror wasn't
returning properly each time, throwing the
viewfinder image off, that doesn't look to be
possible though.
*HELP
Don


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: Where's Cotty?

2005-04-16 Thread John Francis
Keith Whaley mused:
> 
> I read in today's paper of the imminent breakup of MG Rover.
> Last large car maker in the UK.
> 
> Sad that!
> They said some 5000 will lose their jobs.
> 
> Will Rover be able to survive on it's own?


There is no "Rover" as a separate entity.

Land Rover hasn't been part of the Rover group for some time.



Re: Hurrah for Shel Disrobing the Emperor

2005-04-16 Thread John Francis

"(That is) Nonsense!" is just as much a sentence as "Damn (you)"


Paul Stenquist mused:
> 
> Bob wins. "Nonsense" isn't an English sentence. However, "Damn" is a 
> complete sentence if the word "da,m" is used as a verb and the doer of 
> the action is an understood "you."
> On Apr 16, 2005, at 10:08 AM, Bob W wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
>  It's pretty hard to parse a one word sentence.
> >>>
> >>> Nonsense!
> >
> >> At least you give more than one syllable to work with.
> >
> > Damn.
> >
> > -- 
> > Cheers,
> >  Bob
> >
> 



Re: Gone Again and a GFM note

2005-04-16 Thread John Francis
Keith Whaley mused:
> 
> 
> 
> John Francis wrote:
> 
> > William Robb mused:
> > 
> >>That's just your country, and it isn't supposed to happen until 2006 IIRC.
> 
> > By 2008.  Although as the Pres. has just woken up to what it is he
> > signed into law, and publicly stated he thinks it's a bad idea, I
> > rather suspect that after the 60-day public review period called
> > for in the legislation this provision will quietly get dropped.
> 
> ???
> 
> I guess I'm going to have to read up on this little news item.
> I've pretty much ignored all mention of it up to now, since I see no 
> imminent trips for me on the horizon, in either direction!
> 
> You mean it simply won't be enforced?
> Clarify what you believe please...

The legislation (to make passports required at the US borders
with Mexico and with Canada, instead of just a simple photo ID)
specifically contains a requirement for a 60-day period for the
public to comment.  Presumably at the end of that time there
will be another vote; I'd expect the (unpublicised) result to
be that the proposal gets the 'no' vote, and is allowed to
slide off into obscurity.

It's of little interest to citizens of other foreign countries;
for them, passports are already required.  I'm not sure whether
my resident alien card (aka green card) is sufficient; I always
use my passport, just to be sure.



Re: IR with *istDS

2005-04-16 Thread Greg Cooper
Here is an infrared page with the Ds mentioned in comparison with other 
cameras and he also has some samples from the ds and tips.
http://www.jr-worldwi.de/photo/index.html?Pentax_ist_DS_ir_sensitivity.html

Greg Cooper
Edmonton, Alberta
Canada 



Re: PAW: Old and Wise

2005-04-16 Thread Keith Whaley
Trouble connecting to Flickr...
I'll try again later, just in case...
keith whaley
Boris Liberman wrote:
Hi!
Went to shoot some macro today. Very little luck with rather constant 
very soft but annoying breeze...

My wife and daughter spotted this guy behind the window of the closed 
restaurant. Perhaps I will make a print and hand it to the owners...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/boris71/9571234/
What do you say?
Boris



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