Re: Rob Studdert
David Savage wrote: Funny you should bring this up Shel because I just got home (within the last 1 hour) from spending a thoroughly enjoyable day and night (14:00-23:30) walking around Fremantle and Perth with him (He asked me if anyone had noticed he was missing and I said Nah, and he just laughed.). We spent the afternoon in Fremantle, had a lovely dinner, then we went to Perth to do some night photography. I also got to play with his FA 200 f2.8 (I feel an enablement coming on g), Voigtlander 125mm f2.5 (that is a mighty fine piece of glass) and his pano rig.. Thanks for the update! He and his partner drove over from Sydney for a holiday. She has since flown home Rob is going to be driving back in the next week. So you should expect him to be back online in a couple of weeks (depending on how may detours he makes g). For those of you who are unaware of where Perth is in relation to Sydney, well, they are on opposite sides of the country. That drive is 5000 + km either way, so it takes awhile :-) Being a car nut as well as a camera nut, I must ask, what is he driving all that way? keith whaley I'll post a few pictures tomorrow...er...later today. But I'm not posting a pic of Rob unless he posts his shot of me. We both managed to take shots of each other at our daggy best VBG It was a good time, he's a good bloke I learnt quite allot from him. Dave
Re: Rob Studdert
On 11/9/05, keith_w, discombobulated, unleashed: Being a car nut as well as a camera nut, I must ask, what is he driving all that way? He has a posh VW ... is it a Passat? It has aircon, so that's it - he's a wuss. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Brooklyn Mail Order Photo Stores
That's why I buy from BH. With some of these guys, you never know if they'll be around next week. The New York camera biz is full of seedy characters. Paul On Sep 10, 2005, at 11:53 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Check 'em out. You may be surprised at what you see ;-)) http://www.donwiss.com/pictures/BrooklynStores/ Shel Am I paranoid or perceptive?
Re: Rob Studdert
Cotty wrote: On 11/9/05, keith_w, discombobulated, unleashed: Being a car nut as well as a camera nut, I must ask, what is he driving all that way? He has a posh VW ... is it a Passat? It has aircon, so that's it - he's a wuss. Cheers, Cotty Thanks! In the land down under, isn't the middle of September somewhere about the start of their Spring? I'd think he'd need the heater more than the aircon! In any case, driving 5k km is a real task indeed. keith
Colour profiles-PS-and home prining
Hi gang. I know quite a few are up on colour profiles on this list so i thought i would ask here first. I'm still haveing problems getting my print to look like the monitor. I have only used Adobe Gamma to adjust my monitor and have not used the Spyder type of devices. First off, should i be using that type of device if i'm going to do this at least semi seriously. Second, when i shoot my D1 it does not have a real rgb or srgb colour space persay. I forget what it is but PS seems to call it srgb. My D2H is usually shot in Nikon RGB. When i print with my Canons(S800 or BJC8200) i have many options for colour space. I usually choose working space,but sometimes try the working srgb etc. Do i need to convert the file from say the Nikon RGB to srgb in PS, then select that otiopn in the drop down menu,or am i wasting my time until i trruly profile my monitor. In PS 6 if i load up a D2H file it asks what colour space to use. In PSEL3 it does not. Or are there profiles for these Canons out there that should be loaded and used. Any help is appreciated. Right now i need to up the curves past what looks good on my monitor then it prints out the way it should look in real life. Dave(getting back to home printing more)Brooks
Re: Rob Studdert
G'day Kieth, They came over in a Volkswagen Touareg V6 turbo diesel with all the bells and whistles. It's a very very very nice car. At least he can say that he's taken it off road, unlike most of the urban terrors on the streets g Dave On 9/11/05, keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Being a car nut as well as a camera nut, I must ask, what is he driving all that way? keith whaley I'll post a few pictures tomorrow...er...later today. But I'm not posting a pic of Rob unless he posts his shot of me. We both managed to take shots of each other at our daggy best VBG It was a good time, he's a good bloke I learnt quite allot from him. Dave
RE: As free as a child wants to be
Both you and your friends are right. Dull colours, yes, messy background, yes. Despite this, its a fine caught moment. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11. september 2005 02:17 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Paw: As free as a child wants to be HI all. I'm not a fan of the dull colour or the background, but everyone i have shown this to thinks its a very nice photo. Thus proving, i'mm to hard on my self.LOL http://photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/?action=viewcurrent=freedom378 7.jpg Taken during week one of the two week Collingwood horse show. My daughter,who is just adorded by Hailey, is playing chase the rainbow with her. I just think that the scene and the laughter on Hailey's face rally make this. For your dining and dancing pleasure.Shpuld you comment, i'd appreciate it. istD with SMC A 70-210 F4 hand held/panned. Dave
Pentax SMC F 35-135 f3.5-4.5
Hi All, I picked up one of these on eBay recently. It wasn't particularly cheap but I thought that it would work nicely in combination with my 16-45 DA and my ist D for trips. I haven't really had chance to do much with it yet but it seems fairly sharp in comparison with other zooms. The only gripes are; 1) It is horrible to focus manually (tiny focus ring) 2) It does not focus very closely except in macro mode at 135mm. Does anybody else have one of these? - any opinions/experiences? Thanks, Rob W
Re: Rob Studdert
Your right it is Spring. In the evening morning you really need the heater, but the days tend to be quite pleasant. This is a good time to visit W.A., as the wild flowers are just coming in season. Rob seemed very impressed with the variety and the scale of the displays he came across. Hopefully he can be persuaded to post some shots when he gets home :-) Dave On 9/11/05, keith_w [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Thanks! In the land down under, isn't the middle of September somewhere about the start of their Spring? I'd think he'd need the heater more than the aircon! In any case, driving 5k km is a real task indeed. keith
RE: As free as a child wants to be
Dave, You are right! In every aspects. The look in her face if not captured in a picture would be something you'd always regret. Ythanks for sharing, Manuel -Mensagem original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviada: domingo, 11 de Setembro de 2005 1:17 Para: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Assunto: Paw: As free as a child wants to be HI all. I'm not a fan of the dull colour or the background, but everyone i have shown this to thinks its a very nice photo. Thus proving, i'mm to hard on my self.LOL http://photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/?action=viewcurrent=freedom3787. jpg Taken during week one of the two week Collingwood horse show. My daughter,who is just adorded by Hailey, is playing chase the rainbow with her. I just think that the scene and the laughter on Hailey's face rally make this. For your dining and dancing pleasure.Shpuld you comment, i'd appreciate it. istD with SMC A 70-210 F4 hand held/panned. Dave
GESO - September 11 Aurora
It's aurora season again. Last night was great and the outlook for tonight is good as well. There's currently a G3 storm in progress. G1 lowest/G5 highest. These photos were taken last night with the *ist D, FA 31mm f/1.8 LTD. Exposure time around 30 seconds at f/2.8 at ISO 400. Raw captures, no adjustments. Resized and sharpened. http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation.tcl?presentation_id=299012 Tom C.
Re: LED lighting
Bertil Holmberg wrote: Does anyone have experience of LED lighting panels in photography? Although there are commercial products available, it should not be that difficult for the electronics buff to make a couple of panels quite cheap. White high intensity LEDs are avaialble for about $50 per 100 and that should be enough for small object photography, I think. With 25-50 light sources mounted close together, a diffusor seems unnecessary. Ah, the Wiki says that a 100W bulb emits about 120 Cd. A 5mm LED can give 20.000 mCd so 100 of the blighters should give 2000 Cd. That sounds pretty intense, does't it? These figures mean little without defining angle/shape/distribution of the light beam from both sources. More info on LED light output measurement: http://www.marktechopto.com/engineering/measurement.cfm Generally speaking, you should not expect any savings as compared to tungsten - in power required and especially not in cost of devices. There are some white LED lamps available for macrophotography - their advantage over tungsten or flash may be reduced weight and size. A white LED used as light source for photography is not (yet) a good idea, especially if decent colour reproduction is required and film is used rather than RAW power of digital :) Spectrum of white LED is continuous (contrary to some urban legends) - but distribution within the visible spectrum is different than tungsten or daylight colour films expect. Another problem is quite big variation of (perceived)colour, even within one production lot. More on this: http://www.maxim-ic.com/appnotes.cfm/appnote_number/3070 cheers, teem
Re: Colour profiles-PS-and home prining
If I remember correctly: D1 and D2H differ in that D1 has only the native colourspace of the camera, while D2H offers you selection of industry colour spaces (sRGB to AdobeRGB). It seems you have AdobeRGB (Colour mode: II) set on the camera? Of course, that doesn't apply if you shoot RAW because NEF files are all in the native colourspace but the RAW converter outputs the tiffs/jpegs into whatever space you have selected in its options (that can be AdobeRGB, sRGB, ProPhotoRGB et cetera...). OK, I don't remember exactly how it worked back in Photoshop 6 - but I think it should be similar to newer versions. BTW, I am getting pretty consistent results when editing on my monitor which is calibrated by a gamma utility only similar to AdobeGamma. Nothing close to real hardware calibration tool, but mostly good enough I think. Any good editing program has a working space. That is the colour space into which all files are opened. It should be wide enough to accommodate the space of the camera and to allow for subsequent editing (e.g. sRGB is narrower compared to AdobeRGB, thus if you open files shot in AdobeRGB in sRGB working space, you will loose colours). For JPEGs, AdobeRGB is a pretty good choice for a working space, wide enough. So you should probably set the working space in PS6 to AdobeRGB, and set your camera to the same colour space (look in the manual, usually on Nikons it's colour mode II or IIsomething). That way the files open straight in PS without any conversion. Now, old D1 doesn't have any options for the colour space, so if you shoot JPEGs it just pumps out whatever the JPEG engine incamera outputs. IIRC, from what I have heard people had good luck _assigning_ NTSC profile to D1 jpegs. Why? Read it here (quoted from NIKON TECH SUPPORT DPREVIEW:) ** http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond1/page16.asp When the D1's colour is set up (tuning colour by matching the colour seen on a monitor against reference patches) the engineers use monitors which have NTSC phosphors. Nikon re-iterated that this does not mean the D1 is shooting in any defined colourspace (certainly not NTSC 1953), however the NTSC profile conversion should produce the closest match to the initial intention. For exact colour space output Nikon recommend using RAW file format and Nikon Capture (which allows you to select the output colour space). Click here for the official Nikon Europe Tech Support article on this subject: http://www.dpreview.com/misc/rdr.asp?url=http://www.nikon-euro.com/nikoneuro_en/hit/dc/dcd1/en/HIT_dcd1_en_21.htm Here's an example of how such a profile conversion affects colour: In the above example I used the following procedure (Photoshop 6): * Image - Mode - Assign Profile o Profile: NTSC (1953) * Image - Mode - Convert to Profile o Destination Space: [your space here] ** So for your D1 jpegs, just think that they are similar to NTSC profile, and upon opening them, assign the NTSC profile to them. You should have Photoshop set up in a way that it asks you what to do upon opening a file without embedded colour space profile. I have tried myself assigning the NTSC profile to few D1 samples from the web, and it indeed helps a lot with the colour casts. So the procedure in Photoshop: Edit/Colour settings/ Working spaces: RGB = AdobeRGB (1998) Colour management policies: RGB = Convert to working RGB Profile mismatches: all boxes ticked (ask when opening/pasting) Missing profiles: ticked box (ask when missing) If you shoot your D2H in AdobeRGB1998 space (which is the same as NikonRGB I think, only different name), PS will just open the files fine without converting. If you open a D1 file, it will ask you what to do, then you select assign profile from the three options and select the NTSC (1953) profile from all the available profiles and click OK. This is probably the easiest consisten way if shooting JPEG/TIFF files. Frantisek
RE: Pentax SMC F 35-135 f3.5-4.5
Hi Rob, I bought one two months ago. I have all this primes (24 f/2, 50A f/1.4, 85 FA* f/1.4 and a 200 FA* f/2.8) but I was feeling the need of a all round zoom. Believe me, the F 35-135 is the one. Here you can see a couple of shots taken with it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/manumag_photos/ Manuel -Mensagem original- De: Robert Whitehouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviada: domingo, 11 de Setembro de 2005 13:00 Para: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Assunto: Pentax SMC F 35-135 f3.5-4.5 Hi All, I picked up one of these on eBay recently. It wasn't particularly cheap but I thought that it would work nicely in combination with my 16-45 DA and my ist D for trips. I haven't really had chance to do much with it yet but it seems fairly sharp in comparison with other zooms. The only gripes are; 1) It is horrible to focus manually (tiny focus ring) 2) It does not focus very closely except in macro mode at 135mm. Does anybody else have one of these? - any opinions/experiences? Thanks, Rob W
Re: Star Gazing
At 05:30 PM 9/10/2005, you wrote: A night in the life of a celeb chaser. The slide show is amusing. Imagine, snaparazzi with a conscience. Sort of. Excellent photos but looking at the subjects it's clear why I'm listening to a lot of oldies and bluegrass these days. Gary J Sibio [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~garysibio There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary numbers and those who do not. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 9/10/2005
OT: Stock Photography - once again
Does anybody here have positive experience (profit) with stock photography? It seems more and more websites are opening galleries/agencies, where freelance phographers may sell their images. I have heard of some people who have posted photographs, but I never met anyone who actually made a profit or at least had some income this way? Regards Jens Bladt
PESO PAW - 9/11
Here's an oldie, from a few years ago. Today being an anniversary, and my mood being such as it is, I decided to post this again. Large file. http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/seibel.html Shel
Final SMP
Looks like Mikey's calling it quits on the SMP articles. I've thoroughly enjoyed them for the last couple years. I think I may have learned a thing or two from them, I've certainly disagreed with some of them, and I think my enablement bug can be partially blamed on Mr. Johnston. It was one of the SMP articles that brought the PDML to my attention, so I guess I can blame quite a bit on Mr. Johnston. g Anyway, just thought I'd mention it. Here's the linky: http://www.steves-digicams.com/smp/09112005.html -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
RE: PESO PAW - 9/11
A very strong and well done photograph. Regards Jens -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 11. september 2005 17:26 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: PESO PAW - 9/11 Here's an oldie, from a few years ago. Today being an anniversary, and my mood being such as it is, I decided to post this again. Large file. http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/seibel.html Shel
Re: OT: Stock Photography - once again
I've been selling six or seven images a year with around 240 posted on a royalty free stock house site. All images on the site sell for around $270, so I make about $130 on each sale. I've heard that you need a base of several thousand to develop steady returns. And of course some sites sell better than others, but those are usually tougher in regard to placing images. The site I'm currently working with is alwaysstock.com. Paul On Sep 11, 2005, at 10:46 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: Does anybody here have positive experience (profit) with stock photography? It seems more and more websites are opening galleries/agencies, where freelance phographers may sell their images. I have heard of some people who have posted photographs, but I never met anyone who actually made a profit or at least had some income this way? Regards Jens Bladt
Re: PESO PAW - 9/11
Nicely composed. Beautiful, vibrant color. Paul On Sep 11, 2005, at 11:25 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Here's an oldie, from a few years ago. Today being an anniversary, and my mood being such as it is, I decided to post this again. Large file. http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/seibel.html Shel
RE: OT: Stock Photography - once again
Thanks, Paul. That's appr.: Post 40 photgraphs, sell 1 a year! It doesn't sound like much, but I'm sure you're doing better than most people. Regards Jens Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 11. september 2005 17:36 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: OT: Stock Photography - once again I've been selling six or seven images a year with around 240 posted on a royalty free stock house site. All images on the site sell for around $270, so I make about $130 on each sale. I've heard that you need a base of several thousand to develop steady returns. And of course some sites sell better than others, but those are usually tougher in regard to placing images. The site I'm currently working with is alwaysstock.com. Paul On Sep 11, 2005, at 10:46 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: Does anybody here have positive experience (profit) with stock photography? It seems more and more websites are opening galleries/agencies, where freelance phographers may sell their images. I have heard of some people who have posted photographs, but I never met anyone who actually made a profit or at least had some income this way? Regards Jens Bladt
Re: OT: Stock Photography - once again
You're doing very well, Paul, in today's market. The bottom really has fallen out of the stock photography business. Not too many years ago a significant portion of my annual income came from stock sales, but in the last few years I've been lucky to make 10% of what I used to make in a year. Others I know in the business have similar tales. Royalty free clip disks have knocked the bottom out of the market. For many needs these one size fits all photos work just fine. I'm surprised that the site you're working with can get $ 270 for an image when people can go to Comstock and others and get a whole disk full for that. I wonder what their secret is. Bob On Sunday, September 11, 2005, at 11:36 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I've been selling six or seven images a year with around 240 posted on a royalty free stock house site. All images on the site sell for around $270, so I make about $130 on each sale. I've heard that you need a base of several thousand to develop steady returns. And of course some sites sell better than others, but those are usually tougher in regard to placing images. The site I'm currently working with is alwaysstock.com. Paul On Sep 11, 2005, at 10:46 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: Does anybody here have positive experience (profit) with stock photography? It seems more and more websites are opening galleries/agencies, where freelance phographers may sell their images. I have heard of some people who have posted photographs, but I never met anyone who actually made a profit or at least had some income this way? Regards Jens Bladt
Re: Final SMP
Not much of an ending... Scott Loveless wrote: Looks like Mikey's calling it quits on the SMP articles. I've thoroughly enjoyed them for the last couple years. I think I may have learned a thing or two from them, I've certainly disagreed with some of them, and I think my enablement bug can be partially blamed on Mr. Johnston. It was one of the SMP articles that brought the PDML to my attention, so I guess I can blame quite a bit on Mr. Johnston. g Anyway, just thought I'd mention it. Here's the linky: http://www.steves-digicams.com/smp/09112005.html -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: Brooklyn Mail Order Photo Stores
It's interesting to note that a number of the Brooklyn stores are run by relatives of the Maisels, who own BH, according to an article by Herbert Keppler in the Photo Industry Reporter. I'm not suggesting that any of them are disreputable ... just passing along some information,. Shel [Original Message] From: Paul Stenquist That's why I buy from BH. With some of these guys, you never know if they'll be around next week. The New York camera biz is full of seedy characters.
Re: MZ-5
Are their viewfinder is bright enough in focusing manual lens? Are they durable in heavy usage? === MZ5 No DOF, 100 X sync, 1/2000 top shutter speed. MZ3 DOF, 125 X sync, 1/4000 top shutter speed. Everything else is essentially the same. The MZ5n has DOF preview by the way. -- __ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.asiamail.com Send and receive SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze
Re: MZ-5
Hi, A list member loaned me her 5n which I've used a bit. My impression is that it's not going to be as durable as, for example, some of the older, mechanical, metal-bodied cameras, but of course your idea of heavy use and mine may be different. The viewfinder seems OK, although I've only used it with fast glass - no lens slower than a 1.8 aperture. The Mz-5 and 5n, as well as the Mz-3, are nice little cameras if their feature set is acceptable to you. Personally, I'd rather have a good, solid MX ... ;-)) but the MZ cameras have auto focus and a few other features that many people seem to like. It's a nice second camera for me. Shel [Original Message] From: Frankie Lee Are their viewfinder is bright enough in focusing manual lens? Are they durable in heavy usage? === MZ5 No DOF, 100 X sync, 1/2000 top shutter speed. MZ3 DOF, 125 X sync, 1/4000 top shutter speed. Everything else is essentially the same. The MZ5n has DOF preview by the way.
Re: MZ-5
I've had mixed results. The viewfinders are very good. Much better than those in the rest of the MZ/ZX series. Most of my lenses are manual focus, (K or M series), and I've been very pleased with that aspect of these cameras. (Pentax is an optical company first and foremost). They lack the durability of the most previous Pentaxes. My MZ3 needs work on it's shutter which will probably cost much more than the camera is worth. My ZX(MZ)5n is more or less in mint condition, but since I've gotten a *ist-D it's been collecting dust. If I use film I usually grab an MX or LX depending on my mood. (I should really see about selling the MZ3 and ZX5n but I'm just lazy). Frankie Lee wrote: Are their viewfinder is bright enough in focusing manual lens? Are they durable in heavy usage? === MZ5 No DOF, 100 X sync, 1/2000 top shutter speed. MZ3 DOF, 125 X sync, 1/4000 top shutter speed. Everything else is essentially the same. The MZ5n has DOF preview by the way. -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: GESO - September 11 Aurora
I like the second one the best. How far north are you? I've never seen this phenomenon in person. The pictures are always so amazing to look at. -- Best regards, Bruce Sunday, September 11, 2005, 7:16:06 AM, you wrote: TC It's aurora season again. Last night was great and the outlook for tonight TC is good as well. There's currently a G3 storm in progress. G1 lowest/G5 TC highest. TC These photos were taken last night with the *ist D, FA 31mm f/1.8 LTD. TC Exposure time around 30 seconds at f/2.8 at ISO 400. Raw captures, no TC adjustments. Resized and sharpened. TC http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation.tcl?presentation_id=299012 TC Tom C.
Re: PESO: Grace discovers birthday cake
Hello Paul, The lighting worked out very well to capture this cute moment. This will be a pic that others, including her, will want to see well into the future. Very nicely done. -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, September 10, 2005, 4:34:05 PM, you wrote: PS We celebrated my grand daughter's first birthday today. My wife was PS going to feed her a piece of cake with a spoon, but Grace beat her to PS it. She picked it up and got right to it. That's my girl. PS http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3717131size=lg PS DA 16-45/4 with the Sigma 500Super and the Omnibounce 80/20 reflector. PS f8 @ 1/30, iso 400
Re: Paw: As free as a child wants to be
Dave, There are times, when the moment is more important than all the other factors of what makes a great image. Sure, this could have been a better photograph, but the circumstances didn't allow for that to happen. So you got what you could - the moment. It will provide a wonderful memory for all who know her. -- Bruce Saturday, September 10, 2005, 5:17:21 PM, you wrote: bcin HI all. bcin I'm not a fan of the dull colour or the background, but bcin everyone i have shown this to bcin thinks its a bcin very nice photo. bcin Thus proving, i'mm to hard on my self.LOL bcin bcin http://photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/?action=viewcurrent=freedom3787.jpg bcin bcin Taken during week one of the two week Collingwood horse show. bcin My daughter,who is just adorded by Hailey, is playing chase the rainbow with her. bcin I just think that the scene and the laughter on Hailey's face rally make this. bcin For your dining and dancing pleasure.Shpuld you comment, i'd appreciate it. bcin istD with SMC A 70-210 F4 hand held/panned. bcin Dave
Re: PESO PAW - 9/11
Hello Shel, I remember that one. I like it just as much now as then. Very well done. -- Best regards, Bruce Sunday, September 11, 2005, 8:25:51 AM, you wrote: SB Here's an oldie, from a few years ago. Today being an anniversary, and my SB mood being such as it is, I decided to post this again. Large file. SB http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/seibel.html SB Shel
Re: Colour profiles-PS-and home prining
Dave, I gave up calibrating the printer. I have the Color Spyder for calibrating the screen, but never got the prints right. The solution for me was to order the service from a pro digital photo vendor. They sent me a file to print without colour correction. I sent the print back for the paper types I use, and got a ready-to-use colour profile to use for printing. In PSP, I have to select the custom made profile, turn off the adjustments in the printer driver, and voilá. Works every time. It was a bit expensive, but it's worth it IMHO. Jostein - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 9:37 AM Subject: Colour profiles-PS-and home prining Hi gang. I know quite a few are up on colour profiles on this list so i thought i would ask here first. I'm still haveing problems getting my print to look like the monitor. I have only used Adobe Gamma to adjust my monitor and have not used the Spyder type of devices. First off, should i be using that type of device if i'm going to do this at least semi seriously. Second, when i shoot my D1 it does not have a real rgb or srgb colour space persay. I forget what it is but PS seems to call it srgb. My D2H is usually shot in Nikon RGB. When i print with my Canons(S800 or BJC8200) i have many options for colour space. I usually choose working space,but sometimes try the working srgb etc. Do i need to convert the file from say the Nikon RGB to srgb in PS, then select that otiopn in the drop down menu,or am i wasting my time until i trruly profile my monitor. In PS 6 if i load up a D2H file it asks what colour space to use. In PSEL3 it does not. Or are there profiles for these Canons out there that should be loaded and used. Any help is appreciated. Right now i need to up the curves past what looks good on my monitor then it prints out the way it should look in real life. Dave(getting back to home printing more)Brooks
Re: Colour profiles-PS-and home prining
You are probably going to get a different answer from most of the folks who reply, but I do not think a hardware calibrator is necessary unless you are doing pre-press work. If you are doing your own printing then all you really need is to be able to match your printer output, and general photography wise all we need is to be pretty close. With Adobe Gamma I have found recently that I get better results if after going through all the steps I turn my monitor contrast down a couple of clicks. That seems to eliminate false blown highlights on the monitor. Then you can run a print and tweak the monitor so it matchs. That will allow you to work pretty well with that particular monitor/printer setup. Of course if you can afford it get the hardware calibration thingy, it will most likely make life easier (although you need the very expensive transmission/reflection version if you want to calibrate your printer as well). If you are only going to use one or two ink/paper combinations, there are some companies on the Internet that will do a printer profile for $65US or so. They send you a color patch image that you print out and send back. They then use one of those very expensive gizmos to make up a custom printer profile for you. Oh yes, most serious digital cameras do use at least sRGB color space (after all the s stands for standard), even my Epson PS. It has an embedded daylight color profile (I guess that I am on my own in anything but daylight). I convert that to Pro-Photo workspace (apparently it is best to use a wider gamut workspace for editing so you do not lose anything in translation and Adobe98 is somewhat narrower than the latest and best photo printers) in the Adobe RAW converter. You might want to check Nikon's website to see if they have more color profiles for your cameras available for download. Anyway the method in the first couple of paragraphs pretty much is all I use. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi gang. I know quite a few are up on colour profiles on this list so i thought i would ask here first. I'm still haveing problems getting my print to look like the monitor. I have only used Adobe Gamma to adjust my monitor and have not used the Spyder type of devices. First off, should i be using that type of device if i'm going to do this at least semi seriously. Second, when i shoot my D1 it does not have a real rgb or srgb colour space persay. I forget what it is but PS seems to call it srgb. My D2H is usually shot in Nikon RGB. When i print with my Canons(S800 or BJC8200) i have many options for colour space. I usually choose working space,but sometimes try the working srgb etc. Do i need to convert the file from say the Nikon RGB to srgb in PS, then select that otiopn in the drop down menu,or am i wasting my time until i trruly profile my monitor. In PS 6 if i load up a D2H file it asks what colour space to use. In PSEL3 it does not. Or are there profiles for these Canons out there that should be loaded and used. Any help is appreciated. Right now i need to up the curves past what looks good on my monitor then it prints out the way it should look in real life. Dave(getting back to home printing more)Brooks -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 9/10/2005
Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V05 #2147
Thanks a lot for this info! I noticed this site and thought that the concept might be worth exploring - http://www.litepanels.com/LP.html Since I can get 50 white leds for as little as EUR 6, it might be worth the trouble to experiment. I just need 50 resistors to hook up the leds in parallel to a 5 V power source that I already have. In my particular setup I can get as close as 10 inches to the subjects (4 inch dolls) so this kind of lighting should be more practical than the Elinchrome lamps with umbrellas that I use now - 2 yards off. The *istDS allow me to adjust the white balance to the lighting, holding up a white or gray card before the camera etc. Hopefully, this will work even with leds! Regards, Bertil 11 sep 2005 kl. 18.05 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]: More info on LED light output measurement: http://www.marktechopto.com/engineering/measurement.cfm Generally speaking, you should not expect any savings as compared to tungsten - in power required and especially not in cost of devices. There are some white LED lamps available for macrophotography - their advantage over tungsten or flash may be reduced weight and size. A white LED used as light source for photography is not (yet) a good idea, especially if decent colour reproduction is required and film is used rather than RAW power of digital :) Spectrum of white LED is continuous (contrary to some urban legends) - but distribution within the visible spectrum is different than tungsten or daylight colour films expect. Another problem is quite big variation of (perceived)colour, even within one production lot. More on this: http://www.maxim-ic.com/appnotes.cfm/appnote_number/3070 cheers, teem
RE: Pentax SMC F 35-135 f3.5-4.5
Hi Manuel, Thanks for the link - great photos. I tested this lens against a Pentax AF 28-90 and it came out a lot sharper. (tested = took a few shots in my back yard !) I'm now looking forward for some opportunities to use it. Rob W -Original Message- From: Manuel Magalhães [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 September 2005 15:35 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Pentax SMC F 35-135 f3.5-4.5 Hi Rob, I bought one two months ago. I have all this primes (24 f/2, 50A f/1.4, 85 FA* f/1.4 and a 200 FA* f/2.8) but I was feeling the need of a all round zoom. Believe me, the F 35-135 is the one. Here you can see a couple of shots taken with it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/manumag_photos/ Manuel -Mensagem original- De: Robert Whitehouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviada: domingo, 11 de Setembro de 2005 13:00 Para: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Assunto: Pentax SMC F 35-135 f3.5-4.5 Hi All, I picked up one of these on eBay recently. It wasn't particularly cheap but I thought that it would work nicely in combination with my 16-45 DA and my ist D for trips. I haven't really had chance to do much with it yet but it seems fairly sharp in comparison with other zooms. The only gripes are; 1) It is horrible to focus manually (tiny focus ring) 2) It does not focus very closely except in macro mode at 135mm. Does anybody else have one of these? - any opinions/experiences? Thanks, Rob W
Re: MZ-5
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Frankie Lee wrote: Are their viewfinder is bright enough in focusing manual lens? I have no problem even with the MZ-50 (which has a penta-mirror). But your mileage may vary, and the maximum aperture of your lens is a critical factor. Kostas
Re: WOW(Was:First attemt on BW conversion)
On Sep 8, 2005, at 2:19 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: I have been away for some days. So now I'm coming back to this thread. Just got back ... It's difficult (and expensive) to do much email when I'm on the road and relying upon a cell phone for connection/ email... ... I played it simple, no layer masks (I'm not very familiar with this tool yet). ... Keep working at it, particularly these tools. Adjustment layers make doing edits very very flexible, allow you to try lots of things without damaging the base image, makes it easy to go back to the starting point and see what you've done. Shel the Vice Man. Hmm, that has a certain ring to it. ;-) Godfrey
RE: Pentax SMC F 35-135 f3.5-4.5
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005, Robert Whitehouse wrote: Thanks for the link - great photos. I tested this lens against a Pentax AF 28-90 and it came out a lot sharper. (tested = took a few shots in my back yard !) Look out for the bokeh (240KB, folks :-) http://www.epcc.ed.ac.uk/~kavousan/owl2_1200.jpg Kostas
RE: Colour profiles-PS-and home prining
This is very intersting, Jostein. We might find this very usefull at work. Can you give us the name of the company or the name of the system they are using. In Denmark we have a company called Pixl, that does the same thing you described (I believe). I've been reading their website, but it's sooo complicated and difficllt to understand. They can do the whole thing for us, but it costs a small fortune - somthing like 5000 USD or each printer. And it turned out that some of our printers can't really be calibrated at all. Regards Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 11. september 2005 18:40 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: Colour profiles-PS-and home prining Dave, I gave up calibrating the printer. I have the Color Spyder for calibrating the screen, but never got the prints right. The solution for me was to order the service from a pro digital photo vendor. They sent me a file to print without colour correction. I sent the print back for the paper types I use, and got a ready-to-use colour profile to use for printing. In PSP, I have to select the custom made profile, turn off the adjustments in the printer driver, and voilá. Works every time. It was a bit expensive, but it's worth it IMHO. Jostein - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 9:37 AM Subject: Colour profiles-PS-and home prining Hi gang. I know quite a few are up on colour profiles on this list so i thought i would ask here first. I'm still haveing problems getting my print to look like the monitor. I have only used Adobe Gamma to adjust my monitor and have not used the Spyder type of devices. First off, should i be using that type of device if i'm going to do this at least semi seriously. Second, when i shoot my D1 it does not have a real rgb or srgb colour space persay. I forget what it is but PS seems to call it srgb. My D2H is usually shot in Nikon RGB. When i print with my Canons(S800 or BJC8200) i have many options for colour space. I usually choose working space,but sometimes try the working srgb etc. Do i need to convert the file from say the Nikon RGB to srgb in PS, then select that otiopn in the drop down menu,or am i wasting my time until i trruly profile my monitor. In PS 6 if i load up a D2H file it asks what colour space to use. In PSEL3 it does not. Or are there profiles for these Canons out there that should be loaded and used. Any help is appreciated. Right now i need to up the curves past what looks good on my monitor then it prints out the way it should look in real life. Dave(getting back to home printing more)Brooks
PDML Long term Archive
Is there a decent archive for PDML? - I know about the one on mail-archive.com but this only seems to go back a few weeks. It is surely a terrible waste if all the wonderful pearls of wisdom dispensed here over the years are not available in a searchable archive. Rob W
Re: GESO - September 11 Aurora
Hi! It's aurora season again. Last night was great and the outlook for tonight is good as well. There's currently a G3 storm in progress. G1 lowest/G5 highest. These photos were taken last night with the *ist D, FA 31mm f/1.8 LTD. Exposure time around 30 seconds at f/2.8 at ISO 400. Raw captures, no adjustments. Resized and sharpened. http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation.tcl?presentation_id=299012 G3 you mean like electro-static storm? ;-) Very impressive colors, very impressive... Pity we don't get anything like this here... Boris
Re: PESO: Grace discovers birthday cake
Hi! We celebrated my grand daughter's first birthday today. My wife was going to feed her a piece of cake with a spoon, but Grace beat her to it. She picked it up and got right to it. That's my girl. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3717131size=lg DA 16-45/4 with the Sigma 500Super and the Omnibounce 80/20 reflector. f8 @ 1/30, iso 400 Gee, that would be life-shaping discovery... Very disco! Paul, you definitely rule! Boris
SMC-F 35-80mm is good?
Is it good although it is for entry level? http://www.ucatv.ne.jp/~tweety/Zoom/F3580_456/F3580_456Samp.htm -- __ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.asiamail.com Send and receive SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze
Re: Paw: As free as a child wants to be
Hi! I'm not a fan of the dull colour or the background, but everyone i have shown this to thinks its a very nice photo. Thus proving, i'mm to hard on my self.LOL http://photobucket.com/albums/v408/divad_b/?action=viewcurrent=freedom3787.jpg Taken during week one of the two week Collingwood horse show. My daughter,who is just adorded by Hailey, is playing chase the rainbow with her. I just think that the scene and the laughter on Hailey's face rally make this. For your dining and dancing pleasure.Shpuld you comment, i'd appreciate it. istD with SMC A 70-210 F4 hand held/panned. Not exactly free... She was probably caught soon after you clicked the shutter :-(... Really fun shot... The laughter is everywhere... Boris
PESO - Deep Blue Something
Hi! http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=216097 No manipulation except regular RAW processing, and resizing for web... Boris
RE: PDML Long term Archive
I thought it went back quite a ways. Someone here (Gonz?) recently pulled up a post from 2001. Shel [Original Message] From: Robert Whitehouse Is there a decent archive for PDML? - I know about the one on mail-archive.com but this only seems to go back a few weeks.
Re: GESO - September 11 Aurora
Nice pics, Tom. Here's one I took last night. We were having a bonfire on the beach, so it was only luck that we discovered the lights in the sky. http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/3471/display/3916511 Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 4:16 PM Subject: GESO - September 11 Aurora It's aurora season again. Last night was great and the outlook for tonight is good as well. There's currently a G3 storm in progress. G1 lowest/G5 highest. These photos were taken last night with the *ist D, FA 31mm f/1.8 LTD. Exposure time around 30 seconds at f/2.8 at ISO 400. Raw captures, no adjustments. Resized and sharpened. http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation.tcl?presentation_id=299012 Tom C.
Re: OT: Stock Photography - once again
The site is run by ad business people. They actively promote to agencies. They sell discs as well, but single shots are still a good part of their trade. Perhaps more importantly, everything on the site is royalty free. The art directors I know appreciate that. They don't have to deal with the disappointment of discovering that the photo in their comp is gointg to cost $10,000 and will never fly with the client. On Sep 11, 2005, at 11:49 AM, Bob Shell wrote: You're doing very well, Paul, in today's market. The bottom really has fallen out of the stock photography business. Not too many years ago a significant portion of my annual income came from stock sales, but in the last few years I've been lucky to make 10% of what I used to make in a year. Others I know in the business have similar tales. Royalty free clip disks have knocked the bottom out of the market. For many needs these one size fits all photos work just fine. I'm surprised that the site you're working with can get $ 270 for an image when people can go to Comstock and others and get a whole disk full for that. I wonder what their secret is. Bob On Sunday, September 11, 2005, at 11:36 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I've been selling six or seven images a year with around 240 posted on a royalty free stock house site. All images on the site sell for around $270, so I make about $130 on each sale. I've heard that you need a base of several thousand to develop steady returns. And of course some sites sell better than others, but those are usually tougher in regard to placing images. The site I'm currently working with is alwaysstock.com. Paul On Sep 11, 2005, at 10:46 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: Does anybody here have positive experience (profit) with stock photography? It seems more and more websites are opening galleries/agencies, where freelance phographers may sell their images. I have heard of some people who have posted photographs, but I never met anyone who actually made a profit or at least had some income this way? Regards Jens Bladt
Re: GESO - September 11 Aurora
I really enjoyed these. My father, who was born and raised in Sweden, painted the Aurora several times. I've never seen it in person, but these shots remind me of dad's oils. Thanks for sharing. Paul On Sep 11, 2005, at 12:22 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: I like the second one the best. How far north are you? I've never seen this phenomenon in person. The pictures are always so amazing to look at. -- Best regards, Bruce Sunday, September 11, 2005, 7:16:06 AM, you wrote: TC It's aurora season again. Last night was great and the outlook for tonight TC is good as well. There's currently a G3 storm in progress. G1 lowest/G5 TC highest. TC These photos were taken last night with the *ist D, FA 31mm f/1.8 LTD. TC Exposure time around 30 seconds at f/2.8 at ISO 400. Raw captures, no TC adjustments. Resized and sharpened. TC http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation.tcl?presentation_id=299012 TC Tom C.
Re: OT: Stock Photography - once again
that is definitely about average. Herb - Original Message - From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 11:46 AM Subject: RE: OT: Stock Photography - once again Thanks, Paul. That's appr.: Post 40 photgraphs, sell 1 a year! It doesn't sound like much, but I'm sure you're doing better than most people.
Re: MZ-5
5n also has bracketing. Less useful feature but it is still there. 2005/9/10, Frankie Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Anyone could tell me the major functional difference between MZ-5 and MZ-3? I may choose one of them. Thanks. -- __ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.asiamail.com Send and receive SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze -- -- Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ...
Re: PESO: Grace discovers birthday cake
Thanks Bruce. On Sep 11, 2005, at 12:24 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: Hello Paul, The lighting worked out very well to capture this cute moment. This will be a pic that others, including her, will want to see well into the future. Very nicely done. -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, September 10, 2005, 4:34:05 PM, you wrote: PS We celebrated my grand daughter's first birthday today. My wife was PS going to feed her a piece of cake with a spoon, but Grace beat her to PS it. She picked it up and got right to it. That's my girl. PS http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3717131size=lg PS DA 16-45/4 with the Sigma 500Super and the Omnibounce 80/20 reflector. PS f8 @ 1/30, iso 400
Re: I'm back, did I miss anything?
On Sep 9, 2005, at 7:09 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: No more distraught than I am. I had the camera but three days and only made 9,786 exposures. I was just starting to get used to it. Jeez. Hardly even got started. ]'-) Godfrey
Re: OT: Stock Photography - once again
i meant above. Herb - Original Message - From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 1:14 PM Subject: Re: OT: Stock Photography - once again that is definitely about average. Herb - Original Message - From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 11:46 AM Subject: RE: OT: Stock Photography - once again Thanks, Paul. That's appr.: Post 40 photgraphs, sell 1 a year! It doesn't sound like much, but I'm sure you're doing better than most people.
Re: Am I an Ignorant Klutz ....
On Sep 10, 2005, at 6:03 AM, Fred wrote: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/krg/temp/pad-istd.jpg Thanks, guys - now I see what you mean - I'm gonna see if I can find one of those critters... I've not found this modification necessary on the DS, but you can get such bumpers or feet at Home Depot in several sizes. Godfrey
Re: PESO: Grace discovers birthday cake
Thanks Boris. Toddlers are a lot of fun. On Sep 11, 2005, at 2:01 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! We celebrated my grand daughter's first birthday today. My wife was going to feed her a piece of cake with a spoon, but Grace beat her to it. She picked it up and got right to it. That's my girl. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3717131size=lg DA 16-45/4 with the Sigma 500Super and the Omnibounce 80/20 reflector. f8 @ 1/30, iso 400 Gee, that would be life-shaping discovery... Very disco! Paul, you definitely rule! Boris
RE: PDML Long term Archive
Perhaps doing something wrong but I can't seem to find anything older than May '05 ? -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 September 2005 18:09 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: PDML Long term Archive I thought it went back quite a ways. Someone here (Gonz?) recently pulled up a post from 2001. Shel [Original Message] From: Robert Whitehouse Is there a decent archive for PDML? - I know about the one on mail-archive.com but this only seems to go back a few weeks.
Re: Tokina 20~35 2.8 AF Pro
Just got back from a two-day jaunt to Tijuana and back. Not really a photographic trip, but I did carry the camera and 20-35/4, 35/2, 50/1.7 and 28-105/3.2-4.5 lenses. With the Pentax gear, this all fits in a nice, small, light bag. Such a difference from trying to carry my 10D in a similar manner! All but 10 of the 80 exposures I made were made with the 20-35. (The other 10 were made with the 35/2 and 28-105; the 50 never got out of the bag.) This is a perfect focal length range for so much of my photography, and the optical performance combined with the physically small, non-intrusive size is a bang-on winner for me. Switching to the FA35/2 AL, yes, the 35mm prime is a better performer and made a couple of exposures that would have been difficult with the f/4 lens. Only 1 stop faster on the Tokina compared to the FA20-35/4 isn't enough to warrant the additional size and weight, even if the Tokina is a good performer, IMO. Godfrey On Sep 10, 2005, at 10:48 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Smaller, lighter lenses are preferable, but the extra stop of the Tokina is also desirable. Maybe I can find one somewhere and check the quality. Working with a slower lens, if the quality (i.e., the desired characteristics) is superior, is worthwhile. Thanks! Frantisek wrote: GD I have no direct experience with the Tokina. However, on specs alone, GD I wouldn't want the Tokina due to its size and weight. Specs can be misleading. The Tokina is the smallest 2.8 wide zoom ever produced, and for the speed and reach, it's quite small.Unfortunately, the samples I have tried were quite bad on digital, with lot of purple fringing and other failures. I have heard good things about it on film, and one news shooter quite liked his paper's, so maybe it could be worth a look. Perhaps it's sample variation, or whatever.
FS: Pentax gear
i'm cleaning out stuff i hardly or never use anymore. all items are in original boxes with original documentation. Pentax 77mm circular polarizer - opened, never used $100 Pentax AA-Battery Pack FG - never opened, never used $20 Pentax SMCP A50/2 - opened, never used $35 Pentax SMCP FA 80-320/4.5-5.6 - lightly used, some signs of wear on paint $150 Gitzo 1377M Center Ball Head - moderate use, some wear marks on the knobs and body $125 also, for those of you who know about these things. again, all original boxes and documentation. Radio Shack HTX-202 - very light wear, NiCds need replacing, and probably so does memory backup battery - $25 Icom IC-2800H - lightly used $250 buyer pays actual shipping. Paypal, or check or money order when they clear. Herb
Re: CR-2016 Lithium Batteries for istDS
On Sep 10, 2005, at 10:52 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: Does that mean the S loses its setting if you don't use it for 48 hours? Or only if the main batteries are removed for 48 hours? The latter. But I always toss a set of fresh batteries in RIGHT AWAY when I remove dead ones for charging. I've never tested that 48 hours claim. I've left the DS batteryless for two days when I put the second body's NiMH batteries into the charger and simply forgot to put them back ... I took them along as backups for a photo session. The capacitor stayed up and I didn't lose any settings. So the 48 hour number is probably conservative. Godfrey
Re: Rob Studdert
David Savage wrote: G'day Kieth, They came over in a Volkswagen Touareg V6 turbo diesel with all the bells and whistles. It's a very very very nice car. At least he can say that he's taken it off road, unlike most of the urban terrors on the streets g Dave Thanks you sir! I tend to NOT get too hot under the collar with cars whose list prices range between $32,000 and nesr $60,000US... keith
Re: LED lighting
Making my own, I'd worry about spectral qualities particularly for color work. However, I prefer to use flash for small object photography anyway. The Patterson E-Flash units have caught my eye: they're not overly expensive and are only $75 apiece. Seems about perfect for lots of uses like this. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=WishList.j spA=detailsQ=sku=296435is=REG or http://tinyurl.com/93h63 Godfrey On Sep 10, 2005, at 9:48 AM, Bertil Holmberg wrote: Does anyone have experience of LED lighting panels in photography? Although there are commercial products available, it should not be that difficult for the electronics buff to make a couple of panels quite cheap. White high intensity LEDs are avaialble for about $50 per 100 and that should be enough for small object photography, I think. With 25-50 light sources mounted close together, a diffusor seems unnecessary. What kind of light intensity would be required at a distance of 50 cm (20 inches)? I'm afraid that I know little about the physics involved apart from that some of it is measured in Candela. Ah, the Wiki says that a 100W bulb emits about 120 Cd. A 5mm LED can give 20.000 mCd so 100 of the blighters should give 2000 Cd. That sounds pretty intense, does't it? Any help is appreciated :-) Bertil
Re: Final SMP
On Sep 11, 2005, at 8:30 AM, Scott Loveless wrote: Looks like Mikey's calling it quits on the SMP articles. I've thoroughly enjoyed them for the last couple years. I think I may have learned a thing or two from them, I've certainly disagreed with some of them, and I think my enablement bug can be partially blamed on Mr. Johnston. It was one of the SMP articles that brought the PDML to my attention, so I guess I can blame quite a bit on Mr. Johnston. g Anyway, just thought I'd mention it. Here's the linky: http://www.steves-digicams.com/smp/09112005.html Thanks for posting that to the list. I've yakked with Mike from time to time over the past decade. While I've not been a consistent follower of SMP, I've always enjoyed his perspectives regardless of how different they might be from my own. Godfrey
RE: WOW(Was:First attemt on BW conversion)
I meant; Shel is wise man. But if you prefer vice man, ok, it's up to you. My typos can be a slightly misleading ;-) I hate him, but he is my man. (I might end up being hooked on (virtual) darkroom chemicals) Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Doug Brewer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 9. september 2005 05:46 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: WOW(Was:First attemt on BW conversion) Yes, Shel is a vice man. heh heh heh
Re: PESO - Deep Blue Something
On Sep 11, 2005, at 11:03 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=216097 No manipulation except regular RAW processing, and resizing for web... Very striking, beautiful colors and composition. Nice! Godfrey
RE: Pentax SMC F 35-135 f3.5-4.5
That's a beautiful shot Kostas. Shame about the Bokeh, makes it look like the owl was positioned in front of a painting of grass. ;-) Certainly seperated the subject though. Don -Original Message- From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 11:59 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Pentax SMC F 35-135 f3.5-4.5 On Sun, 11 Sep 2005, Robert Whitehouse wrote: Thanks for the link - great photos. I tested this lens against a Pentax AF 28-90 and it came out a lot sharper. (tested = took a few shots in my back yard !) Look out for the bokeh (240KB, folks :-) http://www.epcc.ed.ac.uk/~kavousan/owl2_1200.jpg Kostas
Re: istDS Receives Award
Thanks Shel. Nice to see Pentax get some recognition for the DS. :-) Godfrey On Sep 10, 2005, at 8:26 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: September, 2005: DIWA (Digital Imaging Websites Association), a world-wide organization of collaborating websites, today announces that Pentax has received their first DIWA Award for a D-SLR camera. Their *istDS model is honored with a Silver medal for outstanding test results. To read the entire story, go here: http://www.steves-digicams.com/2004_reviews/istds.html and scroll down a bit. Shel
RE: PDML Long term Archive
Same here. No vintage posts. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Robert Whitehouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11. september 2005 19:22 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: PDML Long term Archive Perhaps doing something wrong but I can't seem to find anything older than May '05 ? -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 September 2005 18:09 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: PDML Long term Archive I thought it went back quite a ways. Someone here (Gonz?) recently pulled up a post from 2001. Shel [Original Message] From: Robert Whitehouse Is there a decent archive for PDML? - I know about the one on mail-archive.com but this only seems to go back a few weeks.
RE: Pentax SMC F 35-135 f3.5-4.5
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005, Don Sanderson wrote: -Original Message- From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 11:59 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Pentax SMC F 35-135 f3.5-4.5 Look out for the bokeh (240KB, folks :-) http://www.epcc.ed.ac.uk/~kavousan/owl2_1200.jpg That's a beautiful shot Kostas. Thanks Don. I really like owls as well. I should get my act together and support it in our zoo. Shame about the Bokeh, makes it look like the owl was positioned in front of a painting of grass. ;-) Certainly seperated the subject though. I have not taken many pictures with that lens (as I have said in the past, although the FL looks ideal for my kind of things, the minimum focusing distance is very long). When I took that picture I was very near/touching the wire that keeps the owl in our zoo, so the bokeh may be affected. But I also saw quickly the water cloud pictures of one of the previous posters (Portuguese? Brazilian?) and again the bokeh looked suspect. Kostas
Re: PDML Long term Archive
In a message dated 9/11/2005 11:12:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Same here. No vintage posts. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) == Of course, the vintage posts have sepia tones. :-) I've never been able to go back far either. Marnie aka Doe
Re: OT: Back in the Pentaxian fold
About 11mb. They're not THAT large compared some scans, but they are larger than a lot of RAW files from 6mp cameras, and certainly a lot larger than the approximately 1.5mb files of the large JPEG's the camera generates. Shel [Original Message] From: keith_w keith Shel Belinkoff wrote: I was working from the very large sized TIFF files the Sony generates, not JPEG's. How large ARE they, Shel?
PAW: G and A
Never posted a PAW before. This is actually two, but very similar pictures. I would normally dislike the first one, as I have chopped the son's head on the left: http://www.epcc.ed.ac.uk/%7ekavousan/GandA.jpg (100KB) However this one I like less, but do you agree/understand why? http://www.epcc.ed.ac.uk/%7ekavousan/GandA2.jpg (100KB) Both are with the MZ-50, one of my 50s, Tri-X [EMAIL PROTECTED], scanned from (traditional machine process, not digital scan, and BW paper) print using a bottom-line Canon scanner. Thanks in advance for any comments. Kostas
RE: I'm back, did I miss anything?
Not so much a leap as just testing the waters - getting my feet wet, so to speak. However, I am excited about trying the camera and exploring the possibilities of digital a little more than with a PS camera. Not having to process film is a very appealing ... and using a plastic zoom lens is certainly intriguing LOL Shel [Original Message] From: Antti-Pekka I bet this was a MAJOR event! I know how much Shel enjoys the mechanical era of cameras so it must have been quite a leap for him ;-).
Re: PESO - Deep Blue Something
In a message dated 9/11/2005 10:09:33 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi! http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=216097 No manipulation except regular RAW processing, and resizing for web... Boris Rather nice, Boris. And the people shooters can't complain there are no people. :-) Too bad there was nothing really at the end, but it's nice diminishing perspective anyway. Rather nice. Marnie aka Doe
Re: Tokina 20~35 2.8 AF Pro
Welcome back ... I tend to agree with you, but I've just gotta see for myself. It's not just the extra stop that's of interest, although that's the prime consideration, but other factors such as the characteristics of the image and build quality are also factors that I'd consider. Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Just got back from a two-day jaunt to Tijuana and back. Only 1 stop faster on the Tokina compared to the FA20-35/4 isn't enough to warrant the additional size and weight, even if the Tokina is a good performer, IMO.
Re: Colour profiles-PS-and home prining
Hi Jens, I don't know the system they use. All I know is that they bought their hardware less than a year ago, and that it was a big investment for the company. They take NOK 500,- per profile they make. You will need one profile per paper type per printer. their web presence is this: http://www.fotosentralen.no/ But I suggest you call the Oslo office and talk to them about it directly. However, it would surprise me if there's no shop in Copenhagen that can do the same thing...:-) Cheers, Jostein - Original Message - From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 6:59 PM Subject: RE: Colour profiles-PS-and home prining This is very intersting, Jostein. We might find this very usefull at work. Can you give us the name of the company or the name of the system they are using. In Denmark we have a company called Pixl, that does the same thing you described (I believe). I've been reading their website, but it's sooo complicated and difficllt to understand. They can do the whole thing for us, but it costs a small fortune - somthing like 5000 USD or each printer. And it turned out that some of our printers can't really be calibrated at all. Regards Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 11. september 2005 18:40 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: Colour profiles-PS-and home prining Dave, I gave up calibrating the printer. I have the Color Spyder for calibrating the screen, but never got the prints right. The solution for me was to order the service from a pro digital photo vendor. They sent me a file to print without colour correction. I sent the print back for the paper types I use, and got a ready-to-use colour profile to use for printing. In PSP, I have to select the custom made profile, turn off the adjustments in the printer driver, and voilá. Works every time. It was a bit expensive, but it's worth it IMHO. Jostein - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 9:37 AM Subject: Colour profiles-PS-and home prining Hi gang. I know quite a few are up on colour profiles on this list so i thought i would ask here first. I'm still haveing problems getting my print to look like the monitor. I have only used Adobe Gamma to adjust my monitor and have not used the Spyder type of devices. First off, should i be using that type of device if i'm going to do this at least semi seriously. Second, when i shoot my D1 it does not have a real rgb or srgb colour space persay. I forget what it is but PS seems to call it srgb. My D2H is usually shot in Nikon RGB. When i print with my Canons(S800 or BJC8200) i have many options for colour space. I usually choose working space,but sometimes try the working srgb etc. Do i need to convert the file from say the Nikon RGB to srgb in PS, then select that otiopn in the drop down menu,or am i wasting my time until i trruly profile my monitor. In PS 6 if i load up a D2H file it asks what colour space to use. In PSEL3 it does not. Or are there profiles for these Canons out there that should be loaded and used. Any help is appreciated. Right now i need to up the curves past what looks good on my monitor then it prints out the way it should look in real life. Dave(getting back to home printing more)Brooks
Re: PESO - Deep Blue Something
Nice composition. Interesting geometry. I like it. Paul On Sep 11, 2005, at 2:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/11/2005 10:09:33 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi! http://www.photoforum.ru/rate/photo.php?photo_id=216097 No manipulation except regular RAW processing, and resizing for web... Boris Rather nice, Boris. And the people shooters can't complain there are no people. :-) Too bad there was nothing really at the end, but it's nice diminishing perspective anyway. Rather nice. Marnie aka Doe
Re: PAW: G and A
I like them both. I think the reactions are a little more animated and interesting on the first. As you noted the frame is better on the second. Tough choice, but both are quite nice. Paul On Sep 11, 2005, at 2:28 PM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: Never posted a PAW before. This is actually two, but very similar pictures. I would normally dislike the first one, as I have chopped the son's head on the left: http://www.epcc.ed.ac.uk/%7ekavousan/GandA.jpg (100KB) However this one I like less, but do you agree/understand why? http://www.epcc.ed.ac.uk/%7ekavousan/GandA2.jpg (100KB) Both are with the MZ-50, one of my 50s, Tri-X [EMAIL PROTECTED], scanned from (traditional machine process, not digital scan, and BW paper) print using a bottom-line Canon scanner. Thanks in advance for any comments. Kostas
PESO - Dimples X 2
This morning my daughter was watching the muppets on TV. I was sitting there and looked over at her and noticed how nice the side light from the far window was on her. I told her not to move and went and got my camera. Of course, as I walked back into the room, she had jumped down and got the dog. So I had to put her back in position. These two shots were of her own posing, more or less. Although taken very close together, they each have a very different feel to them. Pentax *istD, FA 50/1.4, handheld ISO 800, 1/45 sec @ f/2.0 Converted from Raw using Capture One LE http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2229.htm http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2230.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce
Re: PESO - Dimples X 2
In a message dated 9/11/2005 12:16:59 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: These two shots were of her own posing, more or less. Although taken very close together, they each have a very different feel to them. Pentax *istD, FA 50/1.4, handheld ISO 800, 1/45 sec @ f/2.0 Converted from Raw using Capture One LE http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2229.htm http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2230.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce == Both are nice, but I like #1 best. And it's probably better too. With a cutie like that it must be hard to resist shooting her all the time. :-) Marnie aka Doe
Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V05 #2147
BH The *istDS allow me to adjust the white balance to the lighting, BH holding up a white or gray card before the camera etc. Hopefully, BH this will work even with leds! For some high power LEDs, try Lumileds - I am trying to get some locally for use in a flashlight. One particular problem in photography with LED lights could be the spectrum - Tomasz mentioned that white leds _are_ continuous spectrum, but if the spectrum differs (as he says) a lot from daylight, ie it has peaks at different wavelengths and god knows what phosphors they use, nobody yet mentions Colour Rendition Index in their product brochures for LEDs (although they may publish some spectrum diagrams which you could compare with daylight) - digital cameras cannot adapt to much differing light sources, just because they are RGB devices with factory set filters and white balancing is done by multiplying/dividing R and B channels relative to G, plus some hue adjustment. This won't get you good balance _if_ the LED phosphor spectrum differs considerably from daylight... At least I think from my meager understanding of the matter. For example, if the spectrum has a significant peaks in just some wavelengths, you would have to use some special filters to diminish these wavelengths. And with these cheap white LEDs you can almost bet on their phosphors being not daylight white, just like with cheap fluorescents. Or perhaps not :) But most white LEDs have significant colour difference at the edge of the beam - with most going to strange yellow - this would affect the colours considerably. For some more information, try looking at the Lumileds.com site, and also search for LEDs in enlarger heads - several darkroom geeks have converted enlarger heads to LED lighting, although most probably just for BW where the colour response is not so demanding... But it could give you more starting points. There are definitely LEDs with phosphors with excellent spectral charasteristics, as LEDs are used as backlighting for the newest 6000$ a piece LCD DTP displays (NEC, EIZO)... Good light! fra
Re: PDML Long term Archive
Hi Robert, some of us have personal archives going quite far back - I have archived more interesting posts (and sometimes just the whole mailbox) on PDML from back when I joined - 2000? 2001? It could be possible to put these together from a lot of the oldtimers here (and I joined quite early compared with some), and get an archive of the _keepers_ :-) Frantisek
Re: PESO - Dimples X 2
Bruce, She's a beautiful dimple hostess. Extremely nice lighting. Delicate and appealing. Jack --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This morning my daughter was watching the muppets on TV. I was sitting there and looked over at her and noticed how nice the side light from the far window was on her. I told her not to move and went and got my camera. Of course, as I walked back into the room, she had jumped down and got the dog. So I had to put her back in position. These two shots were of her own posing, more or less. Although taken very close together, they each have a very different feel to them. Pentax *istD, FA 50/1.4, handheld ISO 800, 1/45 sec @ f/2.0 Converted from Raw using Capture One LE http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2229.htm http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2230.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: G and A
Both are pretty good. For me it's not a tough choice, not at all. Num two is better composed, but the infants hand makes it in num one. They seem to be better connected in that one. Num two is more correct, but lacks the little extra touch. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -Original Message- From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11. september 2005 20:29 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PAW: G and A Never posted a PAW before. This is actually two, but very similar pictures. I would normally dislike the first one, as I have chopped the son's head on the left: http://www.epcc.ed.ac.uk/%7ekavousan/GandA.jpg (100KB) However this one I like less, but do you agree/understand why? http://www.epcc.ed.ac.uk/%7ekavousan/GandA2.jpg (100KB) Both are with the MZ-50, one of my 50s, Tri-X [EMAIL PROTECTED], scanned from (traditional machine process, not digital scan, and BW paper) print using a bottom-line Canon scanner. Thanks in advance for any comments. Kostas
Re: Final SMP
On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 11:30:25AM -0400, Scott Loveless wrote: Looks like Mikey's calling it quits on the SMP articles.. You won't be seeing anything from him on the dpreview site, either ..
Re: Tokina 20~35 2.8 AF Pro
Shel, In addition to seeing Godfrey's 20-35, would you be interested in seeing a Tokina 20-35/3.5-4.5 autofocus lens at the Pixel Party? It's not the 2.8, but it's mostly metal constructed, as far as I can tell and quite a bit heavier than my other Pentax lenses. As far as image quality, you will have to decide for yourself. Like Godfrey, I find myself using this focal length a lot in addition to the 28-105/3.2-4.5 now that I am using the digital body. Pat in SF --- Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome back ... I tend to agree with you, but I've just gotta see for myself. It's not just the extra stop that's of interest, although that's the prime consideration, but other factors such as the characteristics of the image and build quality are also factors that I'd consider. Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Just got back from a two-day jaunt to Tijuana and back. Only 1 stop faster on the Tokina compared to the FA20-35/4 isn't enough to warrant the additional size and weight, even if the Tokina is a good performer, IMO.
RE: SMC-F 35-80mm is good?
Yes, it's not bad, actually. Quite good. Like most Pentax consumer lenses - surprisingly good for the price tag. I got mine for 50 USD and a faulty MZ-50 body. I have tested it against two Tokina lenses: http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p9124135.html Don't forget to watch it full size (button bewlow) Judge for yourself, but I must admit that the AT-X zoom was slightly off, due to a impact damage. Regards Jens Bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Frankie Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 11. september 2005 19:07 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: SMC-F 35-80mm is good? Is it good although it is for entry level? http://www.ucatv.ne.jp/~tweety/Zoom/F3580_456/F3580_456Samp.htm -- __ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.asiamail.com Send and receive SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze
Re: PDML Long term Archive
Robert Whitehouse wrote: Is there a decent archive for PDML? - I know about the one on mail-archive.com but this only seems to go back a few weeks. It is surely a terrible waste if all the wonderful pearls of wisdom dispensed here over the years are not available in a searchable archive. Rob W This bothered me for some time until I realised that all PDML posts are kept but only the last 1000 are browsable. The rest have to be searched. You have to know what you are looking for and enter the term in the search engine. IIRC, on my browser, the search button is invisible. But if I click in the area where one should be, eventually I find it and off I go. 8-))) mike
Re: PESO - Dimples X 2
I agree. The first one is the best, but both are keepers. You have a beautiful daughter. Paul On Sep 11, 2005, at 3:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/11/2005 12:16:59 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: These two shots were of her own posing, more or less. Although taken very close together, they each have a very different feel to them. Pentax *istD, FA 50/1.4, handheld ISO 800, 1/45 sec @ f/2.0 Converted from Raw using Capture One LE http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2229.htm http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2230.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce == Both are nice, but I like #1 best. And it's probably better too. With a cutie like that it must be hard to resist shooting her all the time. :-) Marnie aka Doe
Re: Final SMP
No reason given? Perhaps just too much work? On Sep 11, 2005, at 3:47 PM, John Francis wrote: On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 11:30:25AM -0400, Scott Loveless wrote: Looks like Mikey's calling it quits on the SMP articles.. You won't be seeing anything from him on the dpreview site, either ..
Re: Colour profiles-PS-and home prining
On 11/9/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: Dave(getting back to home printing more)Brooks Dave, I thought you were buying a Mac?? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PDML Long term Archive
While we're on the subject, and since it's 9/11 today, I have 9 digest posts from 9/11 in 2001 in case anyone wants to see them. Email me off list. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO PAW - 9/11
On 11/9/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed: Here's an oldie, from a few years ago. Today being an anniversary, and my mood being such as it is, I decided to post this again. Large file. http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/seibel.html Thanks Shel. I mentioned this is another thread, but it might be more appropriate here. I have 9 digest posts from that fateful day, if anyone wants to see them, please email me off list. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
PESO: Bee and Flower
Hello, I have been busy as a bee trying to capture some pictures of insects. It's not so easy to photograph a motive flying away or move a lot. But it's good practice :-) http://www.photosig.com/go/photos/view?id=1604475 Best regards, Jorn -- Jeg beskyttes af den gratis SPAMfighter til privatbrugere. Den har indtil videre sparet mig for at få 3625 spam-mails. Betalende brugere får ikke denne besked i deres e-mails. Hent gratis SPAMfighter her: www.spamfighter.dk
Re: Tokina 20~35 2.8 AF Pro
On Sep 11, 2005, at 11:50 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Welcome back ... Thanks. I tend to agree with you, but I've just gotta see for myself. It's not just the extra stop that's of interest, although that's the prime consideration, but other factors such as the characteristics of the image and build quality are also factors that I'd consider. Those are certainly factors. It would be great to hear of some first hand experience with it on the DS. Godfrey
Re: First non DSLR digicam with 10MP APS sensor- contradiction
On Sep 9, 2005, at 2:27 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: I did a quick sketch to clarify what I said: http://www.jcoconnell.com/temp/rearanglediagram.jpg Your sketch is misleading: it exaggerates the relative sizing of the sensor target compared to the lens and also does not indicate where the nodal point is. In a typical Cooke triplet, it's the distance from the nodal point to the imaging plane that determines the deviation from the orthogonal as you approach the edge of the film/ sensor format, not the distance between the rear element and the film/ sensor. The point of having a lens designed for a digital sensor that has its rearmost element very close to the sensor plane is that the rearmost elements of the lens performs correction designed to orient the light path from the nodal point (placed sufficiently far forward in the lens) such that the ray trace to the photosite plane is orthogonal, not that you'd place the nodal point further rearwards in the lens. This is quite similar to what a condenser enlarger head does: it positions a collimating lens group very close to the film plane in order to make the light pass evenly through all points of the negative, right to the corners, and oriented orthogonally through the film so that a flat field imaging objective (the enlarging lens) will exhibit very little light falloff at corners and edges. A large diameter element at the rear of a lens designed for the digital sensor helps in promoting this even illumination of the entire sensor area. Placing this rear lens group close to the sensor, relatively distant from the nodal point, allows the strength of the elements to be lower and thus promotes less distortion from the correction. Godfrey
WTB: Pentax original older lens caps
i'm looking for two Asahi Pentax spring loaded lens caps for 49mm thread lenses. these caps will go onto an M50/2 and a M50/1.7. the silver paint must be in good condition and the caps must be reasonably clean and scratch free. i have a pair of slip-on 51mm ones that keep falling off. Herb
Re: PESO - Dimples X 2
Definitely number 2. The gravitas of the very young is quite appealing. The out of focus forground works in this case, althought traditionally it isn't supposed to. Nice job. J. --- Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 1:35 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Dimples X 2 Bruce, She's a beautiful dimple hostess. Extremely nice lighting. Delicate and appealing. Jack --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This morning my daughter was watching the muppets on TV. I was sitting there and looked over at her and noticed how nice the side light from the far window was on her. I told her not to move and went and got my camera. Of course, as I walked back into the room, she had jumped down and got the dog. So I had to put her back in position. These two shots were of her own posing, more or less. Although taken very close together, they each have a very different feel to them. Pentax *istD, FA 50/1.4, handheld ISO 800, 1/45 sec @ f/2.0 Converted from Raw using Capture One LE http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2229.htm http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2230.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: PESO - Dimples X 2
Hi Bruce ... Both are great, although I prefer the second one for the facial expression and what is arguably a more comfortable and relaxed pose and feel to it. Both are quite nice, however. Shel [Original Message] From: Bruce Dayton These two shots were of her own posing, more or less. Although taken very close together, they each have a very different feel to them. http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2229.htm http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2230.htm
