RE: OT: ebay bought Skype
That's a lot of money! Are you sure it's BILLION? I'm starting to think eBay's getting a little too big, and getting their fingers into too many pies. Shel Am I paranoid or perceptive? [Original Message] From: Jens Bladt Now ebay.com bought Skype from Janus Friis - the 29 years old Danish guy, who invented and developed Skype. The price tag was 25 billion kroners (4.2 billion USD).
Re: OT: ebay bought Skype
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 07:54:21AM +0200, Jens Bladt wrote: I have been using Skype for a couple of years - free telephone calls over the internet. Now ebay.com bought Skype from Janus Friis - the 29 years old Danish guy, who invented and developed Skype. The price tag was 25 billion kroners (4.2 billion USD). Man, I could buy a lot of nice Pentax lenses for that kind of money - in fact - all of them, I guess! This makes Janus Friis the richest 29 year old kid in Denmark. I guess I kinda picked the wrong trade. It would take me 8000 years of hard of work to earn this much money :-( A city planner gets 3 million kroner a year?
Re: LED lighting
On Sep 13, 2005, at 2:02 PM, Herb Chong wrote: moreover, a good 5mm white LED is able to deliver over 2Cd. narrow angle ones in IC packages are capable of 12 Cd. no millis involved. arrays designed specifically for lighting purposes can be higher, and you can buy them preassembled. look for the Princeton Tec Impact XL for what the commercial state of the art LED flashlight can do. there are brighter ones. Take a look at Luxeon (www.luxeon.com). They claim up to 120 lumens from a 5W device, although the 3W versions are better value. High-tech mountain biking headlamps typically use a couple of 3W LEDs and they throw out a serious amount of light. Cheers, - Dave
Re: Colour profiles-PS-and home prining
On Sep 13, 2005, at 8:30 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: The A-RGB profile does represent a substantially larger gamut. I did the following plots a while ago for a friend of mine. These were done using the high quality profiles available on Epson's website. Adobe RGB plotted against the Epson 2200 (umm, premium glossy paper I think... or maybe semigloss): http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/temp/epson_adobe.jpg And the same with sRGB instead: http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/temp/epson_srgb.jpg Those plots came from the ColorSync Utility that comes bundled with the Mac OS. You can compare any two profiles and rotate them around in 3D. Note that the colours shown are only an indication of which colour channel is in which direction. They don't represent actual colours within the colour space. In both cases the grey wire-frame is the Epson profile. You can probably see the disadvantages of using an RGB colour space to edit and a CMYK device for printing :) The limit of what's available from the output stage of the workflow (ie printing) is defined by the intersection of the two volumes. Just for kicks, I did some large-gamut comparisons as well: Ektaspace: http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/temp/epson_ektaspace.jpg Kodak Pro Photo RGB (I had to make the Pro Photo one grey here, as it envelops the Epson profile completely): http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/temp/prophoto_epson2.jpg I won't go through the ins and outs of one working space vs the other, or even large vs small. It'll take me too long and it depends a lot on your intentions for input, editing, archiving and printing and for most people it's all academic anyway. If your screen is calibrated and your workflow is set up OK, then for most purposes it won't matter which colour space you choose. The crux, though, is how well the profile conversion to the printer does the job. The latest print drivers seem to be working more smoothly.CS2's print system does seem to do a better job, with less adjustment necessary, than CS did. Perhaps Adobe's continued development has improved things as well. I use PS for my whole colour workflow, but PS is the only colour- critical app I use. I've yet to be disappointed with the colour rendering of a print from my printer, except once when some nozzles clogged and I lost all yellow :) - Dave
RE: PDML Long term Archive
Well - I can probably/possibly handle the conversion (I work for an ISP - I will speak with the guys in the email dept.!) If you could zip up your old folders I will try to FTP it over ? Thanks Rob W -Original Message- From: Gonz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 September 2005 22:50 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PDML Long term Archive Email might be a problem. I think it would probably exceed my provider's limits. But FTP would probably be an option. I dont have any idea how big it would be zipped however. Its in netscape mail format, so I don't know how easy it would be to convert it to other formats. One other note is that its in pieces. I keep the current stuff in one chunk that I use daily, then the older stuff is kept in another folder for searching/reference. rg Robert Whitehouse wrote: Any idea how big your archive might be if zipped? - might it be emailed? -Original Message- From: Gonz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 September 2005 20:35 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PDML Long term Archive I have my own personal archive in my mailer that goes back quite a ways, but I know there are some old timers here that go back to like 98 or maybe even earlier than that. rg Shel Belinkoff wrote: I thought it went back quite a ways. Someone here (Gonz?) recently pulled up a post from 2001. Shel [Original Message] From: Robert Whitehouse Is there a decent archive for PDML? - I know about the one on mail-archive.com but this only seems to go back a few weeks.
RE: Ashes (was: Rob Studdert)
The rules used to be even simpler; Two teams turn up for match, then Australia win. We have just re-written the rule book ! -Original Message- From: Bob Sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 September 2005 00:11 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Ashes (was: Rob Studdert) Saw some of the cricket match last week in the UK. I could not fathom the game, but everyone was excited, especially after N.Ireland spoiled the football. So who won? Regards, Bob S. On 9/12/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dahhh, you're all jealous cos the Ashes are as good as gone ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Ashes (was: Rob Studdert)
From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/09/12 Mon PM 11:11:11 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Ashes (was: Rob Studdert) Saw some of the cricket match last week in the UK. I could not fathom the game, but everyone was excited, especially after N.Ireland spoiled the football. So who won? Regards, Bob S. http://usa.cricinfo.com/link_to_database/ABOUT_CRICKET/EXPLANATION/EXPLANATION_OF_CRICKET.html On 9/12/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dahhh, you're all jealous cos the Ashes are as good as gone ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Uh what happened to the *ist DS
On 2005-09-12 18:09, Adam Maas wrote: The DS has been discontinued in favour of the DS2. Pricing should be identical. There's very little difference between the DS and DS2, only the larger LCD and Auto ISO. Is there any insight knowledge whether the poor jpeg rendering was improved, too? I guess we'll have to wait for the first samples... - Martin
Re: Uh what happened to the *ist DS
On 2005-09-12 17:38, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Be sure that you're getting a US version of the camera, not grey market. Where could this grey market be? Rumors claim that the DS2 won't be available in Europe - so better grey market than nothing :-( http://shop.pentax.jp/defaultMall/sitemap/CSfLastGenGoodsPage_001.jsp?GOODS_NO=845IMG_ROOT=/defaultMall lists the *ist DS2 at 89,800? - Martin
Re: *ist D or DS AF500FTZ for Weddings?
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Igor Roshchin wrote: I am not sure if it was entirely my fault or indeed, a) this flash does not work as well with the DS as it does with ZX5n as a fill-in flash; Having spoken to a (Nikon) wedding photographer and read this list for a while, TTL flash does not work consistently on digital. The histogram is your friend, RAW is your saviour. Kostas (film is *my* friend and I need no saviour ;-)
Re: CR-2016 Lithium Batteries for istDS
On 9/10/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Odd, as it's noted the camera comes with the battery on the Pentax site as well as elsewhere oh well, one less thing to be concerned about. Thanks! Shel I fear it is one *more* thing to be concerned about, as a button battery needs a simple removal/replacement procedure when it reaches its end of life, while a condensator needs *soldering*. but maybe its life is long enough to make no difference at all... danilo
Re: Re: *ist D or DS AF500FTZ for Weddings?
From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/09/13 Tue AM 09:14:13 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: *ist D or DS AF500FTZ for Weddings? On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Igor Roshchin wrote: I am not sure if it was entirely my fault or indeed, a) this flash does not work as well with the DS as it does with ZX5n as a fill-in flash; Having spoken to a (Nikon) wedding photographer and read this list for a while, TTL flash does not work consistently on digital. The histogram is your friend, RAW is your saviour. Kostas (film is *my* friend and I need no saviour ;-) I hear you, Brother. 8-) - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: What's the difference ...
A strict definition of macro is 1:1 or greater magnification. Most people seem to use the terms interchangeably. The 1:1 magnification referred to the image size on film vs. actual size. I don't know how that works with APS sized sensors. Tom Reese - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 1:44 AM Subject: What's the difference ... .. between a macro photo and a close-up photo? Is there some point, some magnification, at which a close-up becomes a macro shot? Shel
Re: Note to self
On Sep 13, 2005, at 7:24 AM, Tom Reese wrote: note to self 2: don't forget to reset the exposure compensation after use You're really doing it the hard way. The reason why I didn't set exposure compensation was because I knew I'd forget to change it back :( I'd certainly rather screw up two frames than my entire next roll! It didn't take me an entire roll to see my screw up. It took me about 8 frames. My doing it the hard way comment was in reference to your calculating the exposure compensation for the tubes instead of using in camera metering. I'd bite the arm off of anyone who tried to take away my in camera spot meter. It's invaluable when doing the kind of work you're doing. Tom Reese
Re: 360 degree software
This one time, at band camp, Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could whip a quick js script to scroll the 360 degree image, but I am not up on the latest hardware for 360 panoramas. is why i stopped using all of my special panorama heads and just use an L-bracket on a Really Right Stuff panorama clamp. i still have a Kaidan Kiwi-L head that is looking for a good home, and a have a Manfrotto 300N clickstop panorama base that i am not ready to part with yet. I am interested in the head, and am curious about the base and anything else related. What lenses are used etc. Kind regards Kevin -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
Re: What's the difference ...
Terminology. Some might say magnification of 1:1 or more is a macro, but I've seen 1:2 shots labeled macro as well. Of course the term close-up has even been used to describe a portrait configuration. It's all quite imprecise. On Sep 13, 2005, at 1:44 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: .. between a macro photo and a close-up photo? Is there some point, some magnification, at which a close-up becomes a macro shot? Shel
Re: *ist D or DS AF500FTZ for Weddings?
Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Igor Roshchin wrote: I am not sure if it was entirely my fault or indeed, a) this flash does not work as well with the DS as it does with ZX5n as a fill-in flash; Having spoken to a (Nikon) wedding photographer and read this list for a while, TTL flash does not work consistently on digital. This seems to be pretty consistent across brands - it's why P-TTL and its equivalents are recommended instead of TTL. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Ashes (was: Rob Studdert)
The fifth test was really good. Would have been even more exciting if the weather hadn't played such a large part. Congratulations to England choke g Dave On 9/13/05, Robert Whitehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The rules used to be even simpler; Two teams turn up for match, then Australia win. We have just re-written the rule book ! -Original Message- Wrom: CUFPEGAUTFJMVRESKPNKMBIPBARHDMNNSKVFVWRKJVZ Sent: 13 September 2005 00:11 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Ashes (was: Rob Studdert) Saw some of the cricket match last week in the UK. I could not fathom the game, but everyone was excited, especially after N.Ireland spoiled the football. So who won? Regards, Bob S. On 9/12/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dahhh, you're all jealous cos the Ashes are as good as gone ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Weddings with digital cameras
Hello. I recently got into digital photography. I bought an Olympus C-8080. Great camera, but the EVF would not work for me to shoot people events such as weddings. Try waving your hand in front of the lens on an EVF camera and you will probably see a lag time delay between what happens in front of the camera and what finally shows up in the viewfinder. Not good for timing a bouquet toss. Until I purchased this camera I have always used Pentax equipment. PZ-1p, LX, MX,AF500FTZ,AF280,AF 50/1.4,Af28-105(pz),A24/2.8 and more. I have to turn down digital wedding requests because I do not have a digital camera that I could comfortably use for weddings. You really need two or more cameras anyhow, so even if you get a digital, bring along some film cameras for backup. I use some K1000s, a ZX-M, two Minolta 600si cameras, an Olympus Stylus Epic ( processional backup ), and Canon digi-rebel. My wife uses the two 600sis with dedicated flash units. I use auto-flashes and radio slaves. We have all kinds of lenses, but mostly use a few zooms. Up to five cameras are in use at a time. During the ceremony, I have the digi on tripod ready for no-flash ceremony coverage, a Pentax w/ flash and double lighting for processional and recessional, the Epic ready for a few additional back up shots up close as the bride goes past, and my wife has the two Minoltas in the balcony on tripods, one with tele zoom and another with wide angle. I take formals with a digital, plus a film camera on a tripod with its own flash, for quick backup of important shots. Prefocus it and all you have to do is reach over and trip the shutter and crank the next frame while the digital's flash recycles. You can even alternate between them as the other is cycling, to get duplicates of important group poses in case someone blinks. So the question I have is, does anyone have any wedding experience using an *istD or DS with the above flashes and lenses. I do realize I will need a wider lens. Any digital specific zoom recommendations? Thanks. Francis A 24-70 f2.8. Comparable to a 35-105 on film. Workhorse lens. Better auto-focusing with the f2.8. Large and heavy brute, commands respect. But you still need the kit lens (18mm or so at the wide) for huge groups up close. For flash, I have TTL dedicated flashes for the Minoltas for my wife, but I use old technology auto-flashes instead. Reasons: - Digital cameras have had problems with TTL flash measurement. - I would rather have ( and in fact DO have ) four cheaper flash units instead of one or two expensive dedicated ones. Backup and versatility. - They seem to keep changing the dedicated digital flashes. Canon has changed several times now. Minolta changed and also requires D lenses for distance information. I don't know about Pentax. - Simple auto-flashes can be used with any brand of camera ( I have the adaptor for the Minolta hotshoe in case it's ever required ). K1000 to whatever else we end up with ten years from now. - We had a camera bracket crimp a dedicated flash cable at a wedding. You REALLY want to have spares, and those dedicated cables are $40 each. I can make cables for my cheap auto-flashes for a few bucks in parts. I use mini-plugs instead of PC connectors, for reliability and cheaper parts. Plus, the radio slaves use mini-plugs anyhow, so I just got rid of all the PC connecters other than the hotshoe adaptor, which of course you need five spares of! - Only the most expensive radio slaves work with dedicated flash units with TTL. More reasonable ones only work with simple flashes. - I use double lighting a lot. The cabling goes like: camera to hotshow PC adaptor to PC-miniplug cable to miniplug-miniplug cable to radio transmitter to the local flash. Radio receiver to the remote flash and perhaps to another remote flash, via miniplugs. - You can pop an optilcal slave on a cheap flash unit aimed at the wall behind the altar during formals. - Auto flashes with reasonable power are only $80-$100 each. Sunpack 383 Super or Vivitar 283 or 285HV. I like the Sunpack's controls and compact size, but I also have Vivitar 285s. Use NiMH batteries. - Auto flashes measure light fairly well. You can move to manual if you need more control. - Auto flashes handle multiple lights fairly well. You can have several aimed at the dance floor from different angles and still get nice photos. The downside is that you have to think a bit more. I have to change a setting if I move to outdoor light and want to fill flash, for example. On the other hand, the switches on the back of the flash are quick to change from fill to main to remote only during a dance, for example. I once counted 17 or so switches, dials, and settings for a K1000 with the dual auto flash units on a radio system. Digital adds even more settings. My wife uses the dedicated flash units on her film cameras at f5.6 or 1/200th with
Re: What's the difference ...
On Tuesday, September 13, 2005, at 06:37 AM, Tom Reese wrote: A strict definition of macro is 1:1 or greater magnification. Most people seem to use the terms interchangeably. The 1:1 magnification referred to the image size on film vs. actual size. I don't know how that works with APS sized sensors. The same. 1:1 is the same whether film or digital sensor. Sloppy definitions of macro came along when lens makers started calling the close focus capability of some zoom lenses macro, when it was nothing of the kind. Bob
Re: Ashes
Cotty wrote: On 12/9/05, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed: Saw some of the cricket match last week in the UK. I could not fathom the game, but everyone was excited, especially after N.Ireland spoiled the football. So who won? England of course :-) After a series of 5 games (tests) throughout the summer, Australia won 1, England won 2, and 2 were drawn (like in chess). As for being able to fathom the game - let's just say that most cricket fans would probably eye American football with the same puzzlement ;-) There are those of us who don't understand American football OR cricket, but at least American football games end the same day they start ...
Re: 360 degree software
Check out http://www.arcsoft.com/products/panoramamaker/ I have it but have yet to use it for a 360. Wonderfully simple with good/great results for panos. I use a Bogen mini gear head and overlap around 20%. Definitely need a level to get the tripod camera square to the world. Don't make it more complicated than it is - KISS. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 360 degree software I have been looking at iPix ( www.ipix.com ) but it is majorly geared up for the canon G6. I there something more generic to make 360 degree panoramas, then have them mashed into a little 360 degree image that is able to be panned? What are folks using for tripod mounts for 360 degree images. What other equipment could be recommended? Kind regards Kevin -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: Ashes
What's the rush? g I can think of few things better than spending 5 days sitting outside, drinking and having a good time. Given the amount of armour that American football players wear, they should at least have to duke it out for a couple of days. :-) Dave On 9/13/05, E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cotty wrote: On 12/9/05, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed: Saw some of the cricket match last week in the UK. I could not fathom the game, but everyone was excited, especially after N.Ireland spoiled the football. So who won? England of course :-) After a series of 5 games (tests) throughout the summer, Australia won 1, England won 2, and 2 were drawn (like in chess). As for being able to fathom the game - let's just say that most cricket fans would probably eye American football with the same puzzlement ;-) There are those of us who don't understand American football OR cricket, but at least American football games end the same day they start ...
What Ever Happened to Chrome? was: Being There
On 9/12/05, Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OTOH, Kodachrome is certain to be one of the fastest ones to be discontinued. niche product in an already niche market. slide film accounted for about 2% of Fuji's film sales in 2003. You raise an interesting point, Herb. When I was a kid (like early 60's) my dad (who shot with a Yashica A tlr - the poor man's Mat, which was the poor man's Rolleiflex g) shot probably 80% chrome. He'd set up the projector, tape a sheet on the wall (we were too poor for a proper screen) and we'd all sit down to look at a new set of slides. When he did shoot prints, it was inevitably bw. I recall that when I got my first 35mm camera, I shot a lot of chrome, a lot of bw prints, and pretty much no colour prints. So, what killed chromes? The advent of C41? I can't believe that alone did it. Because while it certainly made colour prints economical for the snapshot consumer, the price differential didn't kill black and white, it merely wounded it. Any thoughts? cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Monster on the porch!
On 9/12/05, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Playing with the af360fgz in wireless mode and the Sigma 90/2.8 Macro (MF) I plan to sell, I caught this little fella just before a gust of wind blew the poor guy away. http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/Spidey.htm *Warning*, icky bug pic! ;-) Could have used a little more DOF but a rather pretty specimen. (If you're into spiders.) I really like the dof - the way the web fades to OOF toward the edges of the frame. Nice detail in the centre. I like the lighting, too. Overall, well captured. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
RE: Monster on the porch!
Thanks Frank, Challenging on a windy day, I was getting seasick rocking back and forth trying to hold focus. ;-) Don -Original Message- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 7:14 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Monster on the porch! On 9/12/05, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Playing with the af360fgz in wireless mode and the Sigma 90/2.8 Macro (MF) I plan to sell, I caught this little fella just before a gust of wind blew the poor guy away. http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/Spidey.htm *Warning*, icky bug pic! ;-) Could have used a little more DOF but a rather pretty specimen. (If you're into spiders.) I really like the dof - the way the web fades to OOF toward the edges of the frame. Nice detail in the centre. I like the lighting, too. Overall, well captured. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: OT: ebay bought Skype
On 9/13/05, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 07:54:21AM +0200, Jens Bladt wrote: A city planner gets 3 million kroner a year? Yes, but have you seen their cities over there? vbg -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: GESO: Southwestern Alberta
On 9/11/05, Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: back from vacation and a random grab-bag of photos in chronological order. all taken within a couple of hours' drive of Calgary. http://users.bestweb.net/~hchong/Seasonal/ A lovely gallery, Herb. My favourite is #9 - what dramatic clouds! Were #'s 4 and following taken in the Badlands? That series is cool, too. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Thanks re - setting white balance with studio flashes with istD
Thanks to Kostas and Robert for there comments. I set the white balance as pre the instructions and the flashes went off and ok appeared in the LCD. Had a good night and was very pleased went the shots came back from the lab. Cheers Colin
Re: Ashes (was: Rob Studdert)
On 9/12/05, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: England. The game's easy really. Both sides go out, then the batsman who's in plays till he's out then goes back in. When they've all finished their innings they go back in and swap sides before they come out again, and when they're all out they play another innings and go back in for tea. Then the commentators eat a cake and Geoff Boycott tells us all how bad they all were. Sorry, I still don't understand the game. However, what I really like is that they all look so smashing, dressed in white and all. I remember when they dressed in white for tennis, too. Rocket Rod, John Newcombe, Arthur Ashe. Those were the days. Style is everything. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: What Ever Happened to Chrome? was: Being There
frank theriault wrote: On 9/12/05, Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OTOH, Kodachrome is certain to be one of the fastest ones to be discontinued. niche product in an already niche market. slide film accounted for about 2% of Fuji's film sales in 2003. You raise an interesting point, Herb. When I was a kid (like early 60's) my dad (who shot with a Yashica A tlr - the poor man's Mat, which was the poor man's Rolleiflex g) shot probably 80% chrome. He'd set up the projector, tape a sheet on the wall (we were too poor for a proper screen) and we'd all sit down to look at a new set of slides. When he did shoot prints, it was inevitably bw. I recall that when I got my first 35mm camera, I shot a lot of chrome, a lot of bw prints, and pretty much no colour prints. So, what killed chromes? The advent of C41? I can't believe that alone did it. Because while it certainly made colour prints economical for the snapshot consumer, the price differential didn't kill black and white, it merely wounded it. Any thoughts? cheers, frank Frank, That's pretty much the way I shoot today, although I shoot primarily BW. Chromes are my standard colour films, I only shoot colour neg when I need lots of speed, or I get a bunch really cheap (Gotta love $1 Likon 200). I'd have to say the death of the slideshow killed chromes for most folks. People like prints. -Adam
Re: Ashes (was: Rob Studdert)
You haven't seen one day cricket have you? :-) Dave On 9/13/05, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/12/05, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: England. The game's easy really. Both sides go out, then the batsman who's in plays till he's out then goes back in. When they've all finished their innings they go back in and swap sides before they come out again, and when they're all out they play another innings and go back in for tea. Then the commentators eat a cake and Geoff Boycott tells us all how bad they all were. Sorry, I still don't understand the game. However, what I really like is that they all look so smashing, dressed in white and all. I remember when they dressed in white for tennis, too. Rocket Rod, John Newcombe, Arthur Ashe. Those were the days. Style is everything. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Ashes (was: Rob Studdert)
On 9/13/05, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You haven't seen one day cricket have you? :-) One day cricket? -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: GESO: Southwestern Alberta
I'm liking: 9 - Wow! Is the sun setting just behind the tree to the right of the picture? 20 - I like the different poses of the pelicans(?) and the contrast of the duck merrily swimming by in the forground. Good stuff. Your badland pictures make me want to dig out my shots from our trip out there last year. Beautiful country you have out there. dk On 9/11/05, Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: back from vacation and a random grab-bag of photos in chronological order. all taken within a couple of hours' drive of Calgary. http://users.bestweb.net/~hchong/Seasonal/ Herb
Re: Ashes
On 13/9/05, E.R.N. Reed, discombobulated, unleashed: There are those of us who don't understand American football OR cricket, but at least American football games end the same day they start ... Sounds like good value for money! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Ashes (was: Rob Studdert)
On 13/9/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: Sorry, I still don't understand the game. However, what I really like is that they all look so smashing, dressed in white and all. I remember when they dressed in white for tennis, too. Rocket Rod, John Newcombe, Arthur Ashe. Those were the days. Style is everything. They still have to for Wimbledon. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Final SMP
Chris Stoddart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Has everyone got their copy of The Empirical Photographer? Has *anyone* got their copy of TEP yet??? From the web site it appears he's finally shipping in batches but I have still not got mine (ordered, what was it, two years ago now) so I was wondering if anyone was luckier? I ordered my copy about three months ago, and got it within a week. Same for Lenses and the Light-tight Box, which I ordered about a month after that. Both good -- warmly recommended. -tih -- Don't ascribe to stupidity what can be adequately explained by ignorance.
Re: Ashes (was: Rob Studdert)
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, frank theriault wrote: Sorry, I still don't understand the game. However, what I really like is that they all look so smashing, dressed in white and all. Absolutely, and wooly-pully too! The sign of a true sport. The butchers watching over them too, hands behind back, I think it's great! There are rumours the UK will introduce it in the 2012 Olympics, except they are worried *that* competition may not finish in time for the 2016 successor. Kostas (plus, there's just 5 countries in the world that understand what's going on. Or at least they think that something is going on) p.s.: Thanks for the URL, Mike. Does it say that the coin draw is instrumental to the final outcome more often than not?
Re: What Ever Happened to Chrome? was: Being There
Damn, I didn't know anything happened to chrome. If it disappeared then what are all those rolls in my refrigerator? What's in all those yellow boxes on my desk? What are those rolls in my cameras? Now I'm confused. Tom (Give me ektachrome or give me death) Reese
Re: What Ever Happened to Chrome? was: Being There
On 9/13/05, Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damn, I didn't know anything happened to chrome. If it disappeared then what are all those rolls in my refrigerator? What's in all those yellow boxes on my desk? What are those rolls in my cameras? Now I'm confused. Tom (Give me ektachrome or give me death) Reese You're an anachromism rimshot -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Ashes (was: Rob Studdert)
On 9/13/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They still have to for Wimbledon. And they still have grass at Wimbledon. That's why it's real tennis. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Ashes (was: Rob Studdert)
As the name implies... It's played for 1 day :-) Created in the late 70's for television. All the participating countries have nice bright colourful uniforms that look good on telly. Dave On 9/13/05, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/13/05, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You haven't seen one day cricket have you? :-) One day cricket? -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Ashes
Cotty wrote: On 13/9/05, E.R.N. Reed, discombobulated, unleashed: There are those of us who don't understand American football OR cricket, but at least American football games end the same day they start ... Sounds like good value for money! The only time I attended an entire (Amer) football game, I was being paid to do so. No way I'd do it otherwise. (And I didn't know who won until I was told after the game.) ERNR
Re: Ashes
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, frank theriault wrote: Sorry, I still don't understand the game. However, what I really like is that they all look so smashing, dressed in white and all. Absolutely, and wooly-pully too! The sign of a true sport. The butchers watching over them too, hands behind back, I think it's great! There are rumours the UK will introduce it in the 2012 Olympics, except they are worried *that* competition may not finish in time for the 2016 successor. Kostas (plus, there's just 5 countries in the world that understand what's going on. Or at least they think that something is going on) There are more than 5 countries in the Commonwealth Caribbean. They're small, but they're still countries.
Re: What Ever Happened to Chrome? was: Being There
Frank said: You raise an interesting point, Herb. When I was a kid (like early 60's) my dad (who shot with a Yashica A tlr - the poor man's Mat, which was the poor man's Rolleiflex g) shot probably 80% chrome. He'd set up the projector, tape a sheet on the wall (we were too poor for a proper screen) and we'd all sit down to look at a new set of slides. When he did shoot prints, it was inevitably bw. I recall that when I got my first 35mm camera, I shot a lot of chrome, a lot of bw prints, and pretty much no colour prints. So, what killed chromes? The advent of C41? I can't believe that alone did it. Because while it certainly made colour prints economical for the snapshot consumer, the price differential didn't kill black and white, it merely wounded it. Any thoughts? cheers, frank Well i still see a few at the local pro lab using slide film. My dad in his day shot quite a lot of chrome and we looked forward to the monthly slideshow. I love the results from chrome,but getting a print is a problem. Local pro lab does interneg and i can see the loss in the reprint,plus its a bit expensive. Aaron is closer but its still an hour trip plus gas. His scans are pretty good. He did a cople of 11x14's in July for me. Dave (loves a good 6x7 chrome)Brooks
Re: What's the difference ...
Not very much. John Shaw's most excellent book Closeups in Nature covers it all and is well worth reading. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0817440526/qid=1126618451/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/104-2451736-3237536?v=glances=books a/k/a http://tinyurl.com/d3h8t Maris Shel Belinkoff wrote: .. between a macro photo and a close-up photo? Is there some point, some magnification, at which a close-up becomes a macro shot?
Re: What's the difference ...
I'd think that there'd be a precise definition even though some people may be imprecise. Shel Am I paranoid or perceptive? [Original Message] From: Paul Stenquist Terminology. Some might say magnification of 1:1 or more is a macro, but I've seen 1:2 shots labeled macro as well. Of course the term close-up has even been used to describe a portrait configuration. It's all quite imprecise. Shel Belinkoff wrote: .. between a macro photo and a close-up photo? Is there some point, some magnification, at which a close-up becomes a macro shot? Shel
OT: Mac security and making vid's
Just wondering what do the mac users have for virus,and firewalls. Norton security or does mac have something of there own. Also firewall. Is the external wired or wireless router a good way to go. I think WW uses the former. As for videos. I have a Panasonic VHS-C video camera which uses the small rca type jacks to plug into my VCR. I have a TON of Erin's shows and lessons i would like to put on DVD. If i get the ibook, is there a way to do this with the laptop directly or is there something 3rd part ish that needs to be bought. This will help me narrow down my decision Dave
Re: Ashes
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, E.R.N. Reed wrote: Kostas (plus, there's just 5 countries in the world that understand what's going on. Or at least they think that something is going on) There are more than 5 countries in the Commonwealth Caribbean. They're small, but they're still countries. My statement is a clear hyperbole, as big as the size of the countries you are mentioning is small :-))) Kostas
Re: Ashes
In the last one day cricket world cup, Canada, several Scandinavian, African Asian countries had teams competing. While realistically none of them had a chance of winning, at least they had a go. Unlike a certain other bat and ball sport with a misleading finals series name. VBG Dave On 9/13/05, E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, frank theriault wrote: Sorry, I still don't understand the game. However, what I really like is that they all look so smashing, dressed in white and all. Absolutely, and wooly-pully too! The sign of a true sport. The butchers watching over them too, hands behind back, I think it's great! There are rumours the UK will introduce it in the 2012 Olympics, except they are worried *that* competition may not finish in time for the 2016 successor. Kostas (plus, there's just 5 countries in the world that understand what's going on. Or at least they think that something is going on) There are more than 5 countries in the Commonwealth Caribbean. They're small, but they're still countries.
Re: Ashes
- Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the last one day cricket world cup, Canada, several Scandinavian, African Asian countries had teams competing. While realistically none of them had a chance of winning, at least they had a go. Unlike a certain other bat and ball sport with a misleading finals series name. There's a Canadian team (there used to be two, but one moved to Washington, DC this year) in that other bat-and-ball sport, therefore it IS an international competition. :-) Christian
Re: OT: Mac security and making vid's
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering what do the mac users have for virus,and firewalls. Norton security or does mac have something of there own. Also firewall. Is the external wired or wireless router a good way to go. I think WW uses the former. As for videos. I have a Panasonic VHS-C video camera which uses the small rca type jacks to plug into my VCR. I have a TON of Erin's shows and lessons i would like to put on DVD. If i get the ibook, is there a way to do this with the laptop directly or is there something 3rd part ish that needs to be bought. This will help me narrow down my decision Dave The Mac has a built in firewall based on FreeBSD's ipfw. There's only a basic interface via the GUI, but you can manipulate it via command-line, or get a 3rd party interface. ipfw is a enterprise-grade solution at the Kernel level and every bit as secure as a Cisco PIX if configured well. The basic config tool is sufficient if you aren't running extra services. As to Viruses, there essentially are none. There are a few trojans that require being run by a user with Admin priviledges, and Microsoft Office is of course vulnerable to Office scripting exploits. The only major security issue to pay attention to is patching any services you are running, but Apple is very good at keeping it's Security Patches up to date. You'll need a RCA/Composite-Firewire bridge to import from VHS-C to the Mac. Luckily you won't need extra software to edit or burn DVD's (Provided you buy a Mac with a SuperDrive, iDVD doesn't support 3rd-party drives unless it's hacked) -Adam
Re: Uh what happened to the *ist DS
On Sep 13, 2005, at 2:06 AM, Martin Trautmann wrote: The DS has been discontinued in favour of the DS2. Pricing should be identical. There's very little difference between the DS and DS2, only the larger LCD and Auto ISO. Is there any insight knowledge whether the poor jpeg rendering was improved, too? I guess we'll have to wait for the first samples... There was never a problem with the DS' JPEG rendering that I have been aware of. Any so-called problem is more a matter of the default settings than of the rendering. The default settings do not, in my opinion, make the best quality JPEGs. Godfrey
Re: What Ever Happened to Chrome? was: Being There
From: frank theriault You're an anachromism I'm going to let that slide for now. The transparency of your motive speaks for itself. Tom (the ektamorph) Reese
Re: What Ever Happened to Chrome? was: Being There
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well i still see a few at the local pro lab using slide film. My dad in his day shot quite a lot of chrome and we looked forward to the monthly slideshow. I love the results from chrome,but getting a print is a problem. Local pro lab does interneg and i can see the loss in the reprint,plus its a bit expensive. Aaron is closer but its still an hour trip plus gas. His scans are pretty good. He did a cople of 11x14's in July for me. Dave (loves a good 6x7 chrome)Brooks People still do Interneg? Gah. I'd have thought the Frontiers and Noritsu's would have killed that off by now. Any modern processor can scan/print 35mm chromes as easily as reprinting negs, and if they can print 120 neg, they'll be able to scan/print 120 chromes as well. And there's always Ilfochrome/Cibachrome for the high-quality prints. -Adam
Re: CR-2016 Lithium Batteries for istDS
On Sep 13, 2005, at 2:15 AM, danilo wrote: I fear it is one *more* thing to be concerned about, as a button battery needs a simple removal/replacement procedure when it reaches its end of life, while a condensator needs *soldering*. but maybe its life is long enough to make no difference at all... Capacitors last virtually forever. They just don't store as much energy as a battery does. Godfrey
Re: Ashes
Christian wrote: - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the last one day cricket world cup, Canada, several Scandinavian, African Asian countries had teams competing. While realistically none of them had a chance of winning, at least they had a go. Unlike a certain other bat and ball sport with a misleading finals series name. There's a Canadian team (there used to be two, but one moved to Washington, DC this year) in that other bat-and-ball sport, therefore it IS an international competition. :-) Christian Not to mention the fact that almost all the players are from teh Caribbean. Plenty of international representation at the player level. -Adam
Re: What's the difference ...
On Sep 13, 2005, at 3:37 AM, Tom Reese wrote: A strict definition of macro is 1:1 or greater magnification. Most people seem to use the terms interchangeably. The 1:1 magnification referred to the image size on film vs. actual size. I don't know how that works with APS sized sensors. It would simply mean that the subject fit in an space no larger than 16x24mm. Godfrey
Re: What Ever Happened to Chrome? was: Being There
My father shot transparencies almost exclusively, and I took up where he left off. I still have a lot of slides I shot when I was only ten years old or so. Most of them are 127 Ektachrome. My dad shot 6x6 ektachrome with an Agfa. We had a projector that cold handle both and reviewed them frequently. Reliving vacations was the high point. I started shooting for car magazines in the mid seventies, at the same time that my kids were born. So again I shot lots of transparency film, both for publication and the family pics. I bought the best Kodak carousel and entertained the kids with pictures of themselves. I worked full time as a high school English teacher in those days and served as photographer to the school football team. Every week I presented a slide show for the team, which was always a big hit. Eventually I moved to New York to work full time for a magazine and photography became more of a job and less of a hobby. I was commuting three hours a day and travelling a lot! , and the slide projector stayed in the closet. It remained packed away until last year, when I pulled it out and found some carousels full of 1970s kid pics. We had some fun watching them once again, but it seemed like a lot of work. I haven't taken it out again. I think we've been spoiled by the convenience of contemporary entertainments. I can put together an I-photo slide show in a matter of seconds and watch it play automatically. The projector is probably doomed to sit in the closet. Paul frank theriault wrote: On 9/12/05, Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OTOH, Kodachrome is certain to be one of the fastest ones to be discontinued. niche product in an already niche market. slide film accounted for about 2% of Fuji's film sales in 2003. You raise an interesting point, Herb. When I was a kid (like early 60's) my dad (who shot with a Yashica A tlr - the poor man's Mat, which was the poor man's Rolleiflex g) shot probably 80% chrome. He'd set up the projector, tape a sheet on the wall (we were too poor for a proper screen) and we'd all sit down to look at a new set of slides. When he did shoot prints, it was inevitably bw. I recall that when I got my first 35mm camera, I shot a lot of chrome, a lot of bw prints, and pretty much no colour prints. So, what killed chromes? The advent of C41? I can't believe that alone did it. Because while it certainly made colour prints economical for the snapshot consumer, the price differential didn't kill black and white, it merely wounded it. Any thoughts? cheers, frank Frank, That's pretty much the way I shoot today, although I shoot primarily BW. Chromes are my standard colour films, I only shoot colour neg when I need lots of speed, or I get a bunch really cheap (Gotta love $1 Likon 200). I'd have to say the death of the slideshow killed chromes for most folks. People like prints. -Adam
Re: Weddings with digital cameras
On Sep 13, 2005, at 4:15 AM, Brian Dunn wrote: Hello. I recently got into digital photography. I bought an Olympus C-8080. Great camera, but the EVF would not work for me to shoot people events such as weddings. Try waving your hand in front of the lens on an EVF camera and you will probably see a lag time delay between what happens in front of the camera and what finally shows up in the viewfinder. Not good for timing a bouquet toss. That depends upon the speed of the EVF refresh. The Oly C8080 EVF is not particularly quick (I had one) but a little better than the Panasonic FZ10 refresh (had one of those too). The Konica Minolta A2 has an excellent EVF with nearer to optical viewfinder performance (922,000 pixels, selectable refresh rate at 30 or 60 fps ... yes, I have one still ;-). Godfrey
Re: Re: Ashes (was: Rob Studdert)
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/09/13 Tue PM 12:39:46 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Ashes (was: Rob Studdert) On 9/12/05, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: England. The game's easy really. Both sides go out, then the batsman who's in plays till he's out then goes back in. When they've all finished their innings they go back in and swap sides before they come out again, and when they're all out they play another innings and go back in for tea. Then the commentators eat a cake and Geoff Boycott tells us all how bad they all were. Sorry, I still don't understand the game. However, what I really like is that they all look so smashing, dressed in white and all. I remember when they dressed in white for tennis, too. Rocket Rod, John Newcombe, Arthur Ashe. Those were the days. Style is everything. (Roll) We always suspected that about your photography. (Rimshot) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Re: Final SMP
From: Tom Ivar Helbekkmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/09/13 Tue PM 12:58:53 GMT To: Chris Stoddart [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Final SMP Chris Stoddart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Has everyone got their copy of The Empirical Photographer? Has *anyone* got their copy of TEP yet??? From the web site it appears he's finally shipping in batches but I have still not got mine (ordered, what was it, two years ago now) so I was wondering if anyone was luckier? I ordered my copy about three months ago, and got it within a week. Same for Lenses and the Light-tight Box, which I ordered about a month after that. Both good -- warmly recommended. Words fail me. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Re: Ashes (was: Rob Studdert)
From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/09/13 Tue PM 01:00:46 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Ashes (was: Rob Studdert) On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, frank theriault wrote: Sorry, I still don't understand the game. However, what I really like is that they all look so smashing, dressed in white and all. Absolutely, and wooly-pully too! The sign of a true sport. The butchers watching over them too, hands behind back, I think it's great! There are rumours the UK will introduce it in the 2012 Olympics, except they are worried *that* competition may not finish in time for the 2016 successor. Kostas (plus, there's just 5 countries in the world that understand what's going on. Or at least they think that something is going on) p.s.: Thanks for the URL, Mike. Does it say that the coin draw is instrumental to the final outcome more often than not? Don't know. Didn't read past the first line.. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: Re: Ashes
From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/09/13 Tue PM 01:43:00 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Ashes In the last one day cricket world cup, Canada, several Scandinavian, African Asian countries had teams competing. While realistically none of them had a chance of winning, at least they had a go. Unlike a certain other bat and ball sport with a misleading finals series name. VBG You mean the schoolgirl game? Dave On 9/13/05, E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, frank theriault wrote: Sorry, I still don't understand the game. However, what I really like is that they all look so smashing, dressed in white and all. Absolutely, and wooly-pully too! The sign of a true sport. The butchers watching over them too, hands behind back, I think it's great! There are rumours the UK will introduce it in the 2012 Olympics, except they are worried *that* competition may not finish in time for the 2016 successor. Kostas (plus, there's just 5 countries in the world that understand what's going on. Or at least they think that something is going on) There are more than 5 countries in the Commonwealth Caribbean. They're small, but they're still countries. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: OT: ebay bought Skype
I guess the internet boom is back. Jens Bladt wrote: I have been using Skype for a couple of years - free telephone calls over the internet. Now ebay.com bought Skype from Janus Friis - the 29 years old Danish guy, who invented and developed Skype. The price tag was 25 billion kroners (4.2 billion USD). Man, I could buy a lot of nice Pentax lenses for that kind of money - in fact - all of them, I guess! This makes Janus Friis the richest 29 year old kid in Denmark. I guess I kinda picked the wrong trade. It would take me 8000 years of hard of work to earn this much money :-( Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: GESO: Southwestern Alberta
Nice work Herb. I especially like # 21 (IMG 8960 - birds in water reflection). Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GESO: Southwestern Alberta On 9/11/05, Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: back from vacation and a random grab-bag of photos in chronological order. all taken within a couple of hours' drive of Calgary. http://users.bestweb.net/~hchong/Seasonal/ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: What Ever Happened to Chrome? was: Being There
Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: frank theriault You're an anachromism I'm going to let that slide for now. The transparency of your motive speaks for itself. You don't fool me. I expect to see you make a complete reversal of your position very soon. Mark (The Chrome-Magnon Man)
Re: CR-2016 Lithium Batteries for istDS
Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 13, 2005, at 2:15 AM, danilo wrote: I fear it is one *more* thing to be concerned about, as a button battery needs a simple removal/replacement procedure when it reaches its end of life, while a condensator needs *soldering*. but maybe its life is long enough to make no difference at all... Capacitors last virtually forever. They just don't store as much energy as a battery does. Aluminum electrolytics dry out and die with age. Film caps, tantalums and ceramics go on for a *long* time, though. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: CR-2016 Lithium Batteries for istDS
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Mark Roberts wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 13, 2005, at 2:15 AM, danilo wrote: I fear it is one *more* thing to be concerned about, as a button battery needs a simple removal/replacement procedure when it reaches its end of life, while a condensator needs *soldering*. but maybe its life is long enough to make no difference at all... Capacitors last virtually forever. They just don't store as much energy as a battery does. Aluminum electrolytics dry out and die with age. This must be the type in the PS of my 8-yo telly. They were all replaced at the tune of 73 GBP this week... Kostas :-(
Re: CR-2016 Lithium Batteries for istDS
Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Mark Roberts wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 13, 2005, at 2:15 AM, danilo wrote: I fear it is one *more* thing to be concerned about, as a button battery needs a simple removal/replacement procedure when it reaches its end of life, while a condensator needs *soldering*. but maybe its life is long enough to make no difference at all... Capacitors last virtually forever. They just don't store as much energy as a battery does. Aluminum electrolytics dry out and die with age. This must be the type in the PS of my 8-yo telly. They were all replaced at the tune of 73 GBP this week... Yep. Filter capacitors in power supplies are almost always aluminum electrolytic types, because the capacity and voltage ratings make other types too expensive (if the necessary ratings are available at all). Heat accelerates the aging process, and it gets very warm inside a television set. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: What Ever Happened to Chrome? was: Being There
On 9/13/05, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't fool me. I expect to see you make a complete reversal of your position very soon. Mark (The Chrome-Magnon Man) Are you positive? -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: What Ever Happened to Chrome? was: Being There
Funnily enough the first Pentax I bought -- an H3, was bought because it was more versatile for slides than the Rolleiflex T that was my other choice. As a mostly snapshot, family diary sort of shooter, the thing that killed slides for me was children, and grandparents wanting copies/prints/and so on. Also, as Kodacolor became a mass market, the price differential turned around an it became cheaper to take a roll of prints than a roll of slides. That was also about the time that the carousel got dropped in a move and broke a condenser lens. I couldn't figure out how to get it fixed economically and gave up. I thought for a while that slide film might enjoy a resurgence with film scanning, but digital cameras seem to have put pad to that. Instant e-mail has eliminated the need for double prints. Also going though the scans on the laptop is hugely more rewarding than holding the slides up to the lapshade to see if there's something there. J,W.L. . - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 6:12 AM Subject: What Ever Happened to Chrome? was: Being There On 9/12/05, Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OTOH, Kodachrome is certain to be one of the fastest ones to be discontinued. niche product in an already niche market. slide film accounted for about 2% of Fuji's film sales in 2003. You raise an interesting point, Herb. When I was a kid (like early 60's) my dad (who shot with a Yashica A tlr - the poor man's Mat, which was the poor man's Rolleiflex g) shot probably 80% chrome. He'd set up the projector, tape a sheet on the wall (we were too poor for a proper screen) and we'd all sit down to look at a new set of slides. When he did shoot prints, it was inevitably bw. I recall that when I got my first 35mm camera, I shot a lot of chrome, a lot of bw prints, and pretty much no colour prints. So, what killed chromes? The advent of C41? I can't believe that alone did it. Because while it certainly made colour prints economical for the snapshot consumer, the price differential didn't kill black and white, it merely wounded it. Any thoughts? cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
OT: Another quiz!
http://www.paleothea.com/quizzes.html Not going to tell you what I came out as - to embarassing... - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: What Ever Happened to Chrome? was: Being There
You're an anachromism I'm going to let that slide for now. The transparency of your motive speaks for itself. You don't fool me. I expect to see you make a complete reversal of your position very soon. Why can't you be more positive? Tom Reese
Re: OT: Another quiz!
Ha. Apparently I'm Hades. Cool VBG Dave On 9/13/05, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.paleothea.com/quizzes.html Not going to tell you what I came out as - to embarassing... - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
Re: What Ever Happened to Chrome? was: Being There
On 9/13/05, Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why can't you be more positive? Don't be so sensitive. There's a grain truth to what he says. -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: What Ever Happened to Chrome? was: Being There
On 9/13/05, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't be so sensitive. There's a grain truth to what he says. That should have been a grain ~of~ truth... -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: What Ever Happened to Chrome? was: Being There
In a message dated 9/13/2005 7:12:49 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can put together an I-photo slide show in a matter of seconds and watch it play automatically. The projector is probably doomed to sit in the closet. Paul Aha, googled. I-photo is Mac. What do people use for PCs? At the George Lepp workshop I went to many long months ago, he actually recommended Powerpoint. I have an older version which I don't think does the things his did. He showed two digital slide shows. They were cool. (I think he had a digital projector for the crowd.) What do people use for the PC to create a digital slide show? (From digital camera, or scanned stuff.) Marnie aka Doe
Re: OT: Another quiz!
Looks like I'm Apollo. --- mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.paleothea.com/quizzes.html Not going to tell you what I came out as - to embarassing... - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: What Ever Happened to Chrome? was: Being There
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/13/05, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't be so sensitive. There's a grain truth to what he says. That should have been a grain ~of~ truth... You're losing it Frank. That's what happens when you're overexposed to this kind of thing. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Grey market (Was: Re: Uh what happened to the *ist DS)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 11:11:55 +0200 From: Martin Trautmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Uh what happened to the *ist DS Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 2005-09-12 17:38, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Be sure that you're getting a US version of the camera, not grey market. Where could this grey market be? Rumors claim that the DS2 won't be available in Europe - so better grey market than nothing :-( Let me repeat what I wrote back in June when I just purchased my DS. I was concerned if the store (of which I was very suspicious, because it was buydig) sent me a US or grey market product, as there was no warranty card, and nothing would indicate it being a US model. So, I called the Pentax (in the US), and they told me that some products come without such a card. I was really suprised by the response of the Pentax csr. He told me that they cannot distiguish using serial numbers the cameras that have US warranty from those that are grey market. They used to have different model numbers for the US and the rest of the world (I know it was the case for ZX vs. MZ, but was not aware of such differences for the older models). He assured me that the receipt confirming a purchase of the camera from a legitimate store in the US is a sufficient proof of the US warranty (for them), especially in the case of an authorized dealer. Igor
Re: OT: Another quiz!
I am Hermes - God of typewriters, luggage., and Leicas LOL Shel --- mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.paleothea.com/quizzes.html Not going to tell you what I came out as - to embarassing...
Re: OT: Another quiz!
On 9/13/05, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.paleothea.com/quizzes.html Not going to tell you what I came out as - to embarassing... - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information I'm Apollo - not bad (or accurate, come to think of it...) vbg -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: What Ever Happened to Chrome? was: Being There
Why can't you be more positive? Don't be so sensitive. There's a grain (of) truth to what he says. I don't like the way this thread is developing. I need to limit my exposure. Tom
Re: What Ever Happened to Chrome? was: Being There
On 9/13/05, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're losing it Frank. That's what happens when you're overexposed to this kind of thing. My mind's a blur... -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: What Ever Happened to Chrome? was: Being There
On 9/13/05, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My mind's a blur... Wait, those are my photos. -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: What Ever Happened to Chrome? was: Being There
What do people use for the PC to create a digital slide show? (From digital camera, or scanned stuff.) Marnie aka Doe I use a free Hamrik program called Vuescan. It s about 500k and only does slide show. No rotate, adjustments. etc. For the on site slide shows i use Vueprint. You can rotate and adjust brightness print etc,for the client. That one is not free.g Dave
Re: What's the difference ...
I don't think there is. But from John Shaw's Closeups in Nature:
Let me give a broad definition of a macro lens as the term is normally
used. A macro lens close focuses all by itself. That's all there is to it. A
macro does not have any special properties except for its ability to close
focus without adding any accessories. It is true that macros are optically
optimized for maximum sharpness and flatness of field in the closeup range,
but in practical field terms, all lenses will work fine for closeups if your
photographic technique is good.
. . . . .
Macro lenses are more corrected for flat-field reproduction than normal
lenses. If you're planning to do document copy work, then by all means
invest in a macro lens. However, for normal field photography, this feature
is not particularly advantageous. Outdoors you generally don't shoot
anything that fills the frame, edge to edge, in a flat field.
A macro lens does not make a closeup or any photo shot with it look
different. The focal length of the lens used, and only the focal length,
determines the look of a photo. Why then even consider buying a macro? The
answer is simple: convenience. You won't have to add or remove tubes for
many closeup subjects. The range of photographic subjects between infinity
focus and 1/2X is staggering.
I've heard people object that macro lenses are only good for closeup work;
they say that to photograph at normal distances, a standard lens is needed.
This is not true at all. Macro lenses tend to be some of the most highly
corrected lenses made and are extremely good for photographing subjects at
any distance.
I have a 100mm Sigma macro lens for when I know I'm going to do macro
photography. I also have a N. 5T closeup lens {the only dual-element
closeup lens available) which is light, and I carry when I'm using the
SMCP-FA 80-320mm f/4.5-5.6 lens - very convenient. (Haven't tried it out
yet - I'm still waiting for delivery of a 58-62mm step-up ring bought on
ebay).
Maris
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
I'd think that there'd be a precise definition even though some
people may be imprecise.
Shel
Am I paranoid or perceptive?
[Original Message]
From: Paul Stenquist
Terminology. Some might say magnification of 1:1 or more is a
macro, but I've seen 1:2 shots labeled macro as well. Of course
the term close-up has even been used to describe a portrait
configuration. It's all quite imprecise.
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
.. between a macro photo and a close-up photo? Is there some point,
some
magnification, at which a close-up becomes a macro shot?
Re: OT: Another quiz!
I am Athena Sure, I am. Marnie aka Doe
Re: What Ever Happened to Chrome? was: Being There
Don't be so sensitive. There's a grain truth to what he says. That should have been a grain ~of~ truth... You're losing it Frank. That's what happens when you're overexposed to this kind of thing. Keep your focus Frank, I shutter to think about the results if you don't. After all, I think you can compensate for it. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What Ever Happened to Chrome? was: Being There frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/13/05, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't be so sensitive. There's a grain truth to what he says. That should have been a grain ~of~ truth... You're losing it Frank. That's what happens when you're overexposed to this kind of thing. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Re: Re: Final SMP
From: Tom Ivar Helbekkmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] I ordered my copy about three months ago, and got it within a week. Same for Lenses and the Light-tight Box, which I ordered about a month after that. Both good -- warmly recommended. Ah, but did you order it from Mike himself or did you order from the site he's using to publish it? He's got a company called Bearpaw Books or something which is really just a frontend to lulu.com, the print-on-demand site. Us poor early adopters ordered from Mike before he had ANY of this (indeed before the book was properly written) and now it looks like we're back of the queue getting the damn thing too 'cos we have to wait for Mike to order and ship them in batches. Well you live and you learn. At least if ours ever do show up we're promised an autographed copy! Chris
Re: Being There
In a message dated 9/12/2005 6:39:39 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OTOH, Kodachrome is certain to be one of the fastest ones to be discontinued. niche product in an already niche market. slide film accounted for about 2% of Fuji's film sales in 2003. Herb = It doesn't seem possible that just a few years ago (four?) I was discussing with people on this list which were the best slide films to use. I mean, really, it wasn't that long ago. (And now my scanner is a dust catcher.) Marnie aka Doe
Re: OT: Mac security and making vid's
On Sep 13, 2005, at 6:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering what do the mac users have for virus,and firewalls. Norton security or does mac have something of there own. Also firewall. Is the external wired or wireless router a good way to go. I think WW uses the former. Mac OS X includes its own, built-in firewall. There are extremely few viruses in the Mac OS X world: I regularly find more problems caused by buggy virus protection software than by viruses!! If you're buying an Apple laptop, I'd recommend buying a configuration that includes the 802.11g wireless card. Then add an Apple AirPort Express base station to your home (presuming you connect to the net with broadband; other models include modem interface if you're still on dial-up). Simple to configure, fast and easy to use, and it contains its own security firewall as well. Extremely reliable, no wires to bother with either. (BTW: Apple's Mac OS X default configuration out of the box is designed for easy use by first-time computer users, but is not optimized for best security. If you buy an Apple system, I'll be happy to give you advice on how to set it up for better security without compromising ease of use.) As for videos. I have a Panasonic VHS-C video camera which uses the small rca type jacks to plug into my VCR. I have a TON of Erin's shows and lessons i would like to put on DVD. If i get the ibook, is there a way to do this with the laptop directly or is there something 3rd part ish that needs to be bought. For digital video cameras that support a FireWire or USB 2.0 interface, all you need to do is plug them into the port and start iMovie to edit. For analog video input, you need an analog-digital interface adapter. I've had the ADS-Technology Pyro A/V Link on my wish list for a while. Go to the apple.com website, click on the Made4Mac tab, and search for Pyro ... It will come up in the list. You can then go to it, click on similar products, and you'll get a whole batch of them to look at. You can then use iMovie to edit. iDVD will create pretty sophisticated DVDs, integrating media content from iMovie, iPhoto, and iTunes. They're all part of the supplied iLife bundle. Godfrey
RE: *ist D or DS AF500FTZ for Weddings?
I have both the nementioned flashes and a *ist D. For wedding photography it is essential to avoid burned out highlights (white bridal dress). I'd say that the major issue here is the absence of a fill-falsh option with the *ist D. I simply can't do it. The only way is cheating the flash, which means the flash has to be used in a mode, where the flash it self adjusts the output. The *ist D does not support a fill-falsh option. And - AFAIR the AF500FTZ will not allow for a diffent ISO setting than the camera (This flash does not have a ISO setting it self). In combination this means this flash is no good as a fill-flash, unless you use it in Manual Mode 1/2, 1/4, 1/8 etc. output. There's no other way to cheat the flash into giving LESS LIGHT, than needed for the actual (total) exposure. Setting the camera to - let's say - minus 0.3 correction will NOT give you a fill flash result, just an under exposed frame. The AF280T, however, will allow you to set the flash unit to a faster speed than the camera, which makes it possible to cheat the flash unit into giving slightly too litle light = this is a fill flash option. This does - of course - not work in TTL mode, in which case the actual flash output is controlled by the camera. I don't know if ther's any flash units available, that will allow it to be used as fill flash (less light) in TTL mode with the D or DS. Perhaps others have an idea about this. Both flashes work rather well with the D (with the above described limits) - just make sure you stay below 800 ISO, at which point the TTL will no longer works accurately. Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Frank Knapik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 12. september 2005 20:11 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: *ist D or DS AF500FTZ for Weddings? Hello. I recently got into digital photography. I bought an Olympus C-8080. Great camera, but the EVF would not work for me to shoot people events such as weddings. Until I purchased this camera I have always used Pentax equipment. PZ-1p, LX, MX,AF500FTZ,AF280,AF 50/1.4,Af28-105(pz),A24/2.8 and more. I have to turn down digital wedding requests because I do not have a digital camera that I could comfortably use for weddings. So the question I have is, does anyone have any wedding experience using an *istD or DS with the above flashes and lenses. I do realize I will need a wider lens. Any digital specific zoom recommendations? Thanks. Francis
Re: PAW - Tennis
In a message dated 9/12/2005 2:28:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nothing at all to do with the US open... http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/printsdb/view.php?p=102t=1 This is from the same roll as last week's red phone box interior. I went for a late-afternoon walk to try and finish off the film and this is one of the things I found. The attempt to finish my film was an utter failure - I needed three more shooting sessions to do so :) Cheers, - Dave === I like it. Nice geometry. You obviously have to finish off that film. It inspires you. But take your time... Marnie aka Doe :-)
Re: PAW - Tennis
In a message dated 9/12/2005 6:35:02 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Being a nature photographer I have a habit of not fiddling with anything in the scene so it's all academic to me:) Thanks for commenting. - Dave Ditto. No ball moving. Marnie aka Doe :-)
Re: CR-2016 Lithium Batteries for istDS
On Sep 13, 2005, at 7:53 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: I fear it is one *more* thing to be concerned about, as a button battery needs a simple removal/replacement procedure when it reaches its end of life, while a condensator needs *soldering*. but maybe its life is long enough to make no difference at all... Capacitors last virtually forever. They just don't store as much energy as a battery does. Aluminum electrolytics dry out and die with age. This must be the type in the PS of my 8-yo telly. They were all replaced at the tune of 73 GBP this week... Yep. Filter capacitors in power supplies are almost always aluminum electrolytic types, because the capacity and voltage ratings make other types too expensive (if the necessary ratings are available at all). Heat accelerates the aging process, and it gets very warm inside a television set. I don't know what type of capacitor they use, but it doesn't have to hold much charge nor can it be stressed much to supply enough power to retain settings for 48 hours. I suspect it will last for many many years. Godfrey
Re: Ashes (was: Rob Studdert)
As the name implies... It's played for 1 day :-) Created in the late 70's for television. All the participating countries have nice bright colourful uniforms that look good on telly. And then there's 20:20 cricket - each side bats for just 20 overs (an over consists of 6 balls bowled). You can play several 20:20 games in a day and the action is bloody fast. That'd work quite well in the Olympics. Chris
Re: *ist D or DS AF500FTZ for Weddings?
P-TTL has a huge problem with some people. They blink in reaction to the first flash and end up with their eyes either closed or partially closed. It is only some people, but for them, it is a real problem. I shoot weddings regularly with my *istD's. The basic way I work, is to use AF360FGZ's for daylight fill flash - basically enough ambient light, but fill in is needed for catchlight and/or shadow fill. That is using the high speed synch and flash compensation that the flash is capable of. Many weddings have a reception in the evening or in a darker venue where there is not enough ambient light (this is the time the blinkers really show up) I use an AF400T in TTL mode with camera compensation dialed down about 1-2 stops. I take a shot of the bride in white and the groom in black/dark and adjust from that. I get almost no blinkers from the AF400T where I commonly got blinkers from the P-TTL type system. I have heard the same problem from other wedding photogs using other brands that do the same basic pre-flash. -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, September 13, 2005, 3:57:02 AM, you wrote: MR Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Igor Roshchin wrote: I am not sure if it was entirely my fault or indeed, a) this flash does not work as well with the DS as it does with ZX5n as a fill-in flash; Having spoken to a (Nikon) wedding photographer and read this list for a while, TTL flash does not work consistently on digital. MR This seems to be pretty consistent across brands - it's why P-TTL and MR its equivalents are recommended instead of TTL.
Re: Ashes (was: Rob Studdert)
On 9/13/05, Chris Stoddart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And then there's 20:20 cricket - each side bats for just 20 overs (an over consists of 6 balls bowled). You can play several 20:20 games in a day and the action is bloody fast. That'd work quite well in the Olympics. Hey, they had ballroom dancing (sorry, Dance-sport) in the Olympics as a demo sport, didn't they? If dancing can be in there, anything can... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
