Re: OT: PESO One For Everyone
Thanks Marnie :) Thanks all for your replies On 11/14/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In a message dated 11/13/2005 8:16:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I would really like to hear yuor critiques and notes. > Especially your first feeling about this photo > > http://mishka.site.co.il/gallery/albums/Miscelaneous/IMG_1367.jpg > > Also, did you recognize what is it ? > > PS: it's OT since it's made with Canon. please forgive me :( but i > have no scanner any more :( > > -- > Yours > Michael > > Interesting. Creative of you to spot that made an intriguing pattern/shadow. > > BTW, PESOs can be shot with anything. Only the PUG has to be Pentax. So no > need to apologize and make it OT. > > Marnie aka Doe > > -- Yours Michael
Re: Patrick Lichfield dead.
Bob Shell wrote: On Friday, November 11, 2005, at 02:35 PM, Derby Chang wrote: Lichfield and John Fowles gone in the same week. :( Gee, I hadn't heard about Fowles. Not many men I would use the word genius to describe, but he was certainly one. Bob I agree Bob. It is probably a non sequitur to think of Lichfield and Fowles in the same sentence. I just associate the two from growing up in the 70s. Fowles was one erudite man. D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc
Re: PESO - William Stone
On 13/11/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: >Great portrait, great story. Thanks Marn. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO - William Stone
On 14/11/05, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: >BTW. Think you are good at continuing a conversation in _any_ situation ;-) That a question or a statement? If it's a question, then I can go head to head with you, but as a social worker, you've probably got a stronger resistance to traumatic situations. You probably know how to deal with the skeletons - I just pack em away in the closet where they'll all come out to haunt me when I'm 73 ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO - William Stone
On 13/11/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed: >Hi Cotty - I like this one quite a bit, although perhaps a little more DOF >would be my preference - @ f2.0 maybe. But that's a personal pref Thanks Shel. I found it difficult to get focus just right on the eyes because of the glasses. I would have liked less DOF ;-) I know I can do that in PS but I prefer to do it at the shooting stage. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO: Democracy in Action
On 13/11/05, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: >A young lady signs a judge's nominating petition on the back of the >supplicant while her friend watches. I didn't notice how, um, "close" >these two young ladies were until I processed the photo. >http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3876473 Horizontal crop with just three butts? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: New FA 28-70 versus F 35-70
With the lens on "A" I just set 4.5 on the D body. Looking into the lens while using DOF preview there is an obvious difference from 4-4.5-5.6 even though there is no manual "click stop" at 4.5 on the lens itself. Don > -Original Message- > From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 1:51 AM > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: RE: New FA 28-70 versus F 35-70 > > > HiDon ... > > The results for the FA 28~70/4.0 puzzle me. How were you able to test it > aF/4.5? > > Shel > "You meet the nicest people with a Pentax" > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Don Sanderson > > > To show how poor the new FA 28-70/4 performs on the D > > here is a comparison of it and the F 35-70/3.5-4.5. > > Both at f/4.5 and 70mm. > > That little 35-70 rules! > > > http://donsauction.com/pdml/2870vs3570.htm > >
Re: Request for help or advise. The critical mass is achieved...
On 14/11/05, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: >I have 4000+ PEF files, and 3 years worth of film shooting (1 film a >week or so)... I have to devise a way to catalog the whole darn bunch. > >What kind of system/program/solution you use? > >I know this has been discussed previously, so I would appreciate if we >could just stick to facts and names... I use keywords in Photoshop's File Browser (CS) which works well enough for me. And now I'm using Mac OS 10.4, the Spotlight facility has access to the search words as well, so I can search for a pic straight from my desktop - this is excellent. And Widgets, boy you don't want to know about Widgets, Boris. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Full Frame
Rob Studdert wrote on 14.11.05 0:14: > Yes, for instance the PS RAW convertor has fall-off compensation and a > facility > for storing and recall of lens correction parameters (vignetting and CA). And > there are several other stand-alone and PS plug-in tools that can do the same > such as PTLens. It's not such a big deal really. Yes, of course, and finally we will spend much more time correcting sensor/lenses flaws than taking photos :-))) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: lens hood for FA 50/1.4
That's on the *istD. I suspect it would cause some vignetting on a full frame camera. Paul On Nov 14, 2005, at 2:52 AM, David Mann wrote: On Nov 14, 2005, at 7:19 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: An FYI: I tried the Takumar 135/3.5 lens hood on the FA 50/1.4. I see no vignetting in shots of a white wall. It's a nice metal hood for this lens. Digital or film? I use a square 50mm hood on my 35mm f/3.5 without any problems. Looks good on the LX... - Dave
Re: PESO: Democracy in Action
HAR! On Nov 14, 2005, at 4:28 AM, Cotty wrote: On 13/11/05, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: A young lady signs a judge's nominating petition on the back of the supplicant while her friend watches. I didn't notice how, um, "close" these two young ladies were until I processed the photo. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3876473 Horizontal crop with just three butts? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
CA with BW - BAD!
I forgot to reply earlier, but to the poster who said that CA didn't matter to them because they only shot B&W, it should be noted that CA does affect B&W if you are shooting panchro BW film which nearly everyone does. It causes a loss of resolution in the areas where the CA manifests itself ( essentially mostly in the corners of the image). jco J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com
Re: Request for help or advise. The critical mass is achieved...
I use key words and a date to describe every folder on the hard drives. On my DVD backups I use dates only in most cases, but I highlight important files with some key words as well. For each set of backups, I print a hard copy of the directory. Paul On Nov 14, 2005, at 4:31 AM, Cotty wrote: On 14/11/05, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: I have 4000+ PEF files, and 3 years worth of film shooting (1 film a week or so)... I have to devise a way to catalog the whole darn bunch. What kind of system/program/solution you use? I know this has been discussed previously, so I would appreciate if we could just stick to facts and names... I use keywords in Photoshop's File Browser (CS) which works well enough for me. And now I'm using Mac OS 10.4, the Spotlight facility has access to the search words as well, so I can search for a pic straight from my desktop - this is excellent. And Widgets, boy you don't want to know about Widgets, Boris. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: How to See a Tree (Arboreal Panoramas)
Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 13/11/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>Go here: http://www.jamesbalog.com/ and click on the "TREES" tab at the top >>of the page. Jack didn't quote all the URL's I posted. > >Thanks Shel. > >O MY GOD. > >I knew they were big, but that's humungantic! Cotty, you could pop over to Bath and see one or two in person. Seriously. They're not quite as tall (yet), but they do have a redwood and a sequoia in the Royal Victoria Park in Bath, England. Planted there 3-4 hundred years ago after explorers brought seeds back from the new world :) We were surprised (to put it mildly) to see these trees in Britain while walking through the park a few years ago. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: PESO - A Couple of Guys on the Town
On 11/13/05, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was wondering about that as well - assuming that the Blue Man referenced > on the button is the same Blue Man group I saw in Chicago a few years ago. > They put on a great performance. I took my nephew and his girlfriend - or > should I say, they took me - and we all had a blast! Hmm, I was thinking > about what to get my sister and niece for their coming-up-soon birthdays. > Maybe a couple of tiks to the BMG would be nice ;-)) Well, as far as BMG goes, personally, they give me the creeps. Don't like what they do, don't like the fact that they hide behind all that blue. I think I know what they're trying to say with the make-up (anonymity, alienation, machine-like drones?), but I think it's all pretty pretentious and contrived. The pseudo-circus acro stuff does nothing for me, and neither does their music. But, that's not what my button (and I) are protesting. They came into Toronto this year, rented an old theatre and purpose-renovated it for their show. Problem is, they've refused to hire union workers. Toronto's a union town, and IMHO, they should really respect that, and hire union. Now, I understand that they have every right to hire non-union. However, I have every right disagree with them, and to voice that disagreement, and to inform others of their decision to hire not hire union. I have no problem with anyone who goes to see their show; that's a personal decision. However, I think that everyone should at least be aware of BMG's anti-union position. Aren't you glad you axed? cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Request for help or advise. The critical mass is achieved...
Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I have 4000+ PEF files, and 3 years worth of film shooting (1 film a >week or so)... I have to devise a way to catalog the whole darn bunch. > >What kind of system/program/solution you use? > >I know this has been discussed previously, so I would appreciate if we >could just stick to facts and names... > >Thanks in advance. > >Boris-the-disorganized. Check out Archive Creator. I haven't tried it (yet), but it's only $59.00 and comes highly recommended: http://www.pictureflow.com/products/archive_creator/index.html http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/software/archive-creator.shtml There's a free 15-day trial version available. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: PESO - A Couple of Guys on the Town
On 11/14/05, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: However, I think that everyone should at > least be aware of BMG's anti-union position. > > Aren't you glad you axed? Oh yeah, I got the button (and a sticker for my bike) because one of our clients at work is the Actors' Guild here in Toronto, and they giving away free buttons/stickers. -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Assumptions about 645
"Though a specific marketing time is not official we assume the PMA 2006 (Orlando, US) will be the first world event where the Pentax 645 Digital makes its appearance in a more detailed and final version." http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/news/articles/story_5116.html As I read it, this is speculations, not real news. Don't think I'll among the first in the queue when/if it hits the shelves, but other list members might find this interesting. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
Re: Ansel Adams exhibition
On 11/14/05, David Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My only wish is that the prints were larger... like 6 feet high. > Just about every print had me walking closer and closer, constantly > taking in more detail. I might have to abandon the Brotherhood and > buy a large format camera ;) Well, it's not at all the same, but the Magnum show (I think it was called 50 years of Magnum) featured all 8x10s! Mind you, (virtually) all of them were 35mm, and many (surprisingly) not that sharp even at 8x10. With AA, however, huge would be wonderful! -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Full Frame
From the 5D Review on DPReview, there was fall-off in the corners wide open at the wide end with a 24-70L on a 20D (1.6x APS-C). The fall off was nasty and for several stops on the 5D. Colour me not impressed. -Adam J. C. O'Connell wrote: Is this light falloff in the corners being seen with FULL FRAME 35mm lenses on APS sensors? If so that's pretty severe vignettingEither that or the contrast index with the sensor must me very high with the processing in use. jco -Original Message- From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 4:33 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Full Frame Rob Studdert wrote on 14.11.05 0:14: Yes, for instance the PS RAW convertor has fall-off compensation and a facility for storing and recall of lens correction parameters (vignetting and CA). And there are several other stand-alone and PS plug-in tools that can do the same such as PTLens. It's not such a big deal really. Yes, of course, and finally we will spend much more time correcting sensor/lenses flaws than taking photos :-)))
Re: Request for help or advise. The critical mass is achieved...
- Original Message - From: "keith_w" Subject: Re: Request for help or advise. The critical mass is achieved... When I remember, I back my stuff up onto a CD, or more likely a DVD. I don't catalogue them or anything like that. I figure it would be the height of arrogance to think my pictures were worthy of more effort than that. Question. Do you never want to go back and find any particular photograph or group of photographs? If you don't, why keep them at all? If you do, how can you possibly recall what you put on more than 2 or 3 CD's or worse, DVD's? If I want a particular image, I try to recall approximately when I shot it, then start browsing CD/DVDs until I find it. I try to remember to date my back ups. It keeps my looking through my images on a regular basis. Seriously, I just can't be bothered with that much organization. William Robb
Re: Full Frame
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: Full Frame Is this light falloff in the corners being seen with FULL FRAME 35mm lenses on APS sensors? If so that's pretty severe vignettingEither that or the contrast index with the sensor must me very high with the processing in use. I think it is primaily a Canon FF problem. Some of their lenses are prone to falloff anyway. William Robb
RE: PESO - William Stone
How a social worker deals with skeletons? Analyse them, and _then_ hide them in the closet like everybody else ;-) Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message- > From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 14. november 2005 10:25 > To: pentax list > Subject: Re: PESO - William Stone > > On 14/11/05, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >BTW. Think you are good at continuing a conversation in _any_ situation > ;-) > > That a question or a statement? > > If it's a question, then I can go head to head with you, but as a social > worker, you've probably got a stronger resistance to traumatic > situations. You probably know how to deal with the skeletons - I just > pack em away in the closet where they'll all come out to haunt me when > I'm 73 ;-) > > > > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > ___/\__ > || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche > ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com > _ > > >
Re: PESO - Messy Crap, a Snap or a Keeper?
Tim, It doesn't work for me. The problem is that the foreground is too dark, and the people walking into the frame is hard to see. Without that element the pic is just too static. I have a number of similar shots--the northern European light is glorious, but it leaves lots of things in shadow most of the day! Rick --- Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark's picture of the reflecting buildings reminded > me of a shot I took some > months ago. Both of Marks photos are interesting > BTW. > > The title I have given it, kind of says it all. I > can't decide on this one. > According to normal aesthetic "rules", it is a > chaotic crappy image. It has > a lot of crossing lines, the perspective is hard to > figure out, there are > some people in frame who doesn't really have > anything to do in frame, and so > on. But, I still kind of like it. But what do I like > about it? I don't know. > But I am very curious about what wisdom of the list > has to say. > > Me and Jostein had a interesting discussion on > eastern and western > perspectives on pictures. The western ideal seems to > be to one or few > subjects in frame, and isolate it/them as good as > possible. There are off > course some exceptions from this, mainly patterns > and repetitions of the > subject. The eastern ideal is slightly different. I > personally haven't seen > a lot of eastern photography, but my impression is > that they like more > chaotic (in our ease) compositions. The discussion > was mainly on the course > of this phenomenon. A very interesting discussion, > hope we can continue it > over a beer or two some day. > > So here it is, my "eastern" picture > http://flickr.com/photos/fototim/62993610/ > it needs a larger format, so for you with broadband > or patience > http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=62993610&size=o > (230k) > Data online. > > Like Boris often says, honest and brutal if need > comments are sought > after... > Hope I'll learn something from this. > > > Tim > Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) > > Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large > crowds > (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other > clever guy) > > > > __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: How to See a Tree (Arboreal Panoramas)
and they never will be since the conditions where they are growing are radically different than those in their natural environment. it might be interesting to note that south of where the giant coast redwoods grow is an area called the pygmy forest. because of some soil and geologic conditions, coast redwoods, firs, and other trees have become stunted in their growth, and live as natural bonsais. a walk the edge of the forest - not far from its center - brings you to the massive and tall trees. it's mind boggling to see the difference. Shel "You meet the nicest people with a Pentax" > [Original Message] > From: Mark Roberts >Go here: http://www.jamesbalog.com/ and click on the "TREES" tab at the top >of the page. Jack didn't quote all the URL's I posted. > > > >Thanks Shel. > > > >O MY GOD. > > > >I knew they were big, but that's humungantic! > > Cotty, you could pop over to Bath and see one or two in person. > Seriously. They're not quite as tall (yet), but they do have a redwood > and a sequoia in the Royal Victoria Park in Bath, England. Planted there > 3-4 hundred years ago after explorers brought seeds back from the new > world :) We were surprised (to put it mildly) to see these trees in > Britain while walking through the park a few years ago. > > > -- > Mark Roberts > Photography and writing > www.robertstech.com
Re: How to See a Tree (Arboreal Panoramas)
On 14/11/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: >Cotty, you could pop over to Bath and see one or two in person. >Seriously. They're not quite as tall (yet), but they do have a redwood >and a sequoia in the Royal Victoria Park in Bath, England. Planted there >3-4 hundred years ago after explorers brought seeds back from the new >world :) We were surprised (to put it mildly) to see these trees in >Britain while walking through the park a few years ago. Nice one! I'll look into it. Thanks. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: CA with BW - BAD!
J. C. O'Connell wrote: > I forgot to reply earlier, but to the poster who said > that CA didn't matter to them because they only shot > B&W, it should be noted that CA does affect B&W if you > are shooting panchro BW film which nearly everyone does. > It causes a loss of resolution in the areas where the > CA manifests itself ( essentially mostly in the corners > of the image). > jco > > >J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com > Yes, I agree with you that CA affect the B&W pictures also, mainly the edge definition, so as you have said thay cause loss of resolution. What I was writing (if I am the adressee) was that I could not tell if the lens has CA simply by looking at a B&W photo. Best regards luben -- "Computers are useless. They can only give answers." - Pablo Picasso
Re: How to See a Tree (Arboreal Panoramas)
On 14/11/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed: >and they never will be since the conditions where they are growing are >radically different than those in their natural environment. Hi Shel, In what way are the conditions radically different? IIRC there are plenty of Redwoods at Big Sur, for instance. The Californian coast is not totally dissimilar to the climate in the UK. Note that we are on a similar lattitude to New York and Montreal, but we do not get anywhere near the low temperatures they do. On a mid-winter's frosty night, I would expect -8 deg C as pretty much about as low as it goes, and nowhere near this on the coast. With Atlantic low pressure systems come prevailing north-westerlies, westerlies, and south- westerlies, keeping temperatures up into double figures for prolonged spells. In the spring and autumn, daytime highs of 12 deg C are typical, and in the summer one would expect anywhere between 19 and 24 deg C as average. Heatwaves bring 30 deg C for a week or so. We are very much governed by the Atlantic, with occasional input from the Arctic (northerlies) or Siberia (easterlies). The UK is an island that benefits from both the gulf stream and warm moist water from the Caribbean (called the Atlantic Conveyor). I would have thought that many forms of vegetation open to Pacific weather systems would also be suitable here Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO - A Couple of Guys on the Town
On 14/11/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: >Well, as far as BMG goes, personally, they give me the creeps. Don't >like what they do, don't like the fact that they hide behind all that >blue. I think I know what they're trying to say with the make-up >(anonymity, alienation, machine-like drones?), but I think it's all >pretty pretentious and contrived. The pseudo-circus acro stuff does >nothing for me, and neither does their music. > >But, that's not what my button (and I) are protesting. They came into >Toronto this year, rented an old theatre and purpose-renovated it for >their show. Problem is, they've refused to hire union workers. >Toronto's a union town, and IMHO, they should really respect that, and >hire union. > >Now, I understand that they have every right to hire non-union. >However, I have every right disagree with them, and to voice that >disagreement, and to inform others of their decision to hire not hire >union. I have no problem with anyone who goes to see their show; >that's a personal decision. However, I think that everyone should at >least be aware of BMG's anti-union position. Good on yer Frank. What a guy :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO - Autumn or Winter?
On 14/11/05, Jostein, discombobulated, unleashed: >Does the ferry qualify as a water-shed? Only after 9pm. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO: Democracy in Action
>> Horizontal crop with just three butts? On 14/11/05, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: >HAR! I'm serious! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: How to See a Tree (Arboreal Panoramas)
On 14/11/05, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: >The UK is an island >that benefits from both the gulf stream and warm moist water Errwell, I've had some very dry water in the past Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO: Democracy in Action
I know. What's humorous is that you recognized where the true interaction is taking place. Of course with that crop it would appear to be a photo of two men and one woman. Paul On Nov 14, 2005, at 9:23 AM, Cotty wrote: Horizontal crop with just three butts? On 14/11/05, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: HAR! I'm serious! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO - Messy Crap, a Snap or a Keeper?
In a message dated 11/13/2005 7:26:52 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So here it is, my "eastern" picture http://flickr.com/photos/fototim/62993610/ it needs a larger format, so for you with broadband or patience http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=62993610&size=o (230k) Data online. Like Boris often says, honest and brutal if need comments are sought after... Hope I'll learn something from this. Tim === Too much stuff and some areas too dark. Confusing. A crop of one area might work. Marnie aka Doe (Also, it would be more politic not to include the C word in a subject line.)
Re: How to See a Tree (Arboreal Panoramas)
In a message dated 11/14/2005 6:15:57 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We are very much governed by the Atlantic, with occasional input from the Arctic (northerlies) or Siberia (easterlies). The UK is an island that benefits from both the gulf stream and warm moist water from the Caribbean (called the Atlantic Conveyor). I would have thought that many forms of vegetation open to Pacific weather systems would also be suitable here Cheers, Cotty I can't talk about it knowledgeably, Cotty, but I thought the Atlantic ocean was much warmer than the Pacific. And this creates different weather patterns and winds. Marnie aka Doe
RE: PESO - Messy, a Snap or a Keeper?
I have never thought of that C word as offensive. To me, it is not stronger than example, junk. But you being a native knows better than me. Thanks for the warning. And while posting: Thanks for being honest. Honest feedback is what I need. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 14. november 2005 15:31 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: PESO - Messy Crap, a Snap or a Keeper? > > In a message dated 11/13/2005 7:26:52 PM Pacific Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > So here it is, my "eastern" picture > http://flickr.com/photos/fototim/62993610/ > it needs a larger format, so for you with broadband or patience > http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=62993610&size=o (230k) > Data online. > > Like Boris often says, honest and brutal if need comments are sought > after... > Hope I'll learn something from this. > > > Tim > === > Too much stuff and some areas too dark. Confusing. A crop of one area > might > work. > > Marnie aka Doe (Also, it would be more politic not to include the C word > in > a subject line.) >
Compare Takumar 70-200 f/4 vs. SMC 70-210 f/4
Hi, I use a Pentax 35-105 f/3.5 on my Pentax PZ-1 currently. I plan to compliment this lens with something like 70-200. I notice that there are two versions: SMC A 70-210 f/4 (which I believe has a very good reputation??) and the Takumar-A 70-200 f/4 Macro (how good is this??) Any thoughts, comparisons, For-sale, suggestions? Thanks, Gaurav
Re: How to See a Tree (Arboreal Panoramas)
On 14/11/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: >I can't talk about it knowledgeably, Cotty, but I thought the Atlantic ocean >was much warmer than the Pacific. And this creates different weather patterns >and winds. I understand Marnie. My point was that, although the interior of California can be very warm and dry, the coast is usually much cooler - hence, on a hot day in San Jose, it could be 96 degrees F, but take a 45 minute trip to Santa Cruz, and it's down into the mid-70s because of the cooling on-shore breeze. Typically, the air is much mope moist as well - voila le fog ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO - Messy, a Snap or a Keeper?
On 14/11/05, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: >I have never thought of that C word as offensive. To me, it is not stronger >than example, junk. But you being a native knows better than me. >Thanks for the warning. More importantly, you used the 'S' word! You callin my stuff middle of the road :- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: How to See a Tree (Arboreal Panoramas)
In a message dated 11/14/2005 6:52:25 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I understand Marnie. My point was that, although the interior of California can be very warm and dry, the coast is usually much cooler - hence, on a hot day in San Jose, it could be 96 degrees F, but take a 45 minute trip to Santa Cruz, and it's down into the mid-70s because of the cooling on-shore breeze. Typically, the air is much mope moist as well - voila le fog ;-) == In California, Redwoods thrive in cooler coastal areas, and don't do as well elsewhere. They also don't do well without other Redwoods around them (as in a single Redwood). But to comment on this more I'd have to do research. Marnie aka Doe What you said.
Re: Full Frame
In a message dated 11/13/2005 5:20:25 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Saturday, November 12, 2005, at 02:27 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > >> I don't know about that, even the wealthiest people I have >> ever met don't want to pay more for something JUST BECAUSE >> its more, they want something better, not just costlier... > I don't think it's the "wealthiest" people who have that attitude. (*Not* having it probably helps them become wealthy.) The attitude certainly exists in some strata though. Exactly. Those with a lot of disposable income, and a lot of debit. Marnie aka Doe
Re: Full Frame
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: Full Frame Is this light falloff in the corners being seen with FULL FRAME 35mm lenses on APS sensors? If so that's pretty severe vignettingEither that or the contrast index with the sensor must me very high with the processing in use. I think it is primaily a Canon FF problem. Some of their lenses are prone to falloff anyway. William Robb Frome what I'm hearing it's entirely the lenses, and the problem goes away if better designed wide-angles are used (Notably the Zeiss Biogon or OM 21mm f2.8) -Adam
ot:I found
While cleaning out my granpa's basement I found all kinds of treasures Yesterday I found a little camera I thought. When I actually opened it it was a slide viewer. It is made by GNC. On the box it says model 101 35mm precieison viewer. Patent pending. It isn't scratched or anything it is kindof neat.
price comparisons *istD* (was Re: Any reason not to buy a *istD?)
On 2005-11-11 14:00, Martin Trautmann wrote: > On 2005-11-10 11:09, John Forbes wrote: >> It's not advertised much, but for the last nine months the D has generally >> been sold for the same price as the DS in the UK. > > while checking German EU prices: > http://www.geizhals.at/deutschland/?fs=istd&x=0&y=0&in= > > *istD: 1000 EUR > *istDs: 600 EUR > *istDL: 600 EUR What's the price level in other countries? Niko sent me some feedback for Finland. Are there other price comparisons online which show price trends of the last months? Here's a snapshot: Countrycurrency *istD *istDs *istDL price comparison --++---+++--- GermanyEUR 1000 600 600www.geizhals.at FinlandEUR700 680 670 France EUR US USD 1000 630 585www.dpreview.com UK GBP <670+560 430www.kelkoo.co.uk ... (+: UK price included 18-35) Further additions are welcome, Martin
Re: PESO - Messy Crap, a Snap or a Keeper?
I like messy, complex pictures, but the reason why this doesn't work for me is that the different parts don't fit together or add to some common story or mood. If you look at the more complicated pictures by Cartier-Bresson you discover that some shapes or lines in the composition binds them together. In colour you can use the occurance of some colour in the same way. I think it is pretty easy to simplify pictures, so the real challenge is to add thing and still make it work. DagT > fra: Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > dato: 2005/11/14 ma AM 04:25:18 CET > til: > emne: PESO - Messy Crap, a Snap or a Keeper? > > Mark's picture of the reflecting buildings reminded me of a shot I took some > months ago. Both of Marks photos are interesting BTW. > > The title I have given it, kind of says it all. I can't decide on this one. > According to normal aesthetic "rules", it is a chaotic crappy image. It has > a lot of crossing lines, the perspective is hard to figure out, there are > some people in frame who doesn't really have anything to do in frame, and so > on. But, I still kind of like it. But what do I like about it? I don't know. > But I am very curious about what wisdom of the list has to say. > > Me and Jostein had a interesting discussion on eastern and western > perspectives on pictures. The western ideal seems to be to one or few > subjects in frame, and isolate it/them as good as possible. There are off > course some exceptions from this, mainly patterns and repetitions of the > subject. The eastern ideal is slightly different. I personally haven't seen > a lot of eastern photography, but my impression is that they like more > chaotic (in our ease) compositions. The discussion was mainly on the course > of this phenomenon. A very interesting discussion, hope we can continue it > over a beer or two some day. > > So here it is, my "eastern" picture > http://flickr.com/photos/fototim/62993610/ > it needs a larger format, so for you with broadband or patience > http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=62993610&size=o (230k) > Data online. > > Like Boris often says, honest and brutal if need comments are sought > after... > Hope I'll learn something from this. > > > Tim > Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) > > Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds > (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > > > >
Re: PESO - Norwegian skies
Nice shot Boris. Name of the lake is Vangsmjøsa, btw. I understand why you made this composition, it's a good trade-off between the hill slopes and the elements around the lake. However, I think the foreground vegetation in the lower left corner is breaking a bit with the rest of the composition. Did you take a shot from a point somewhat to the left of this position too? When Boris works the landscape, this is what he looks like: http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/267/display/4376394 :-) Jostein - Original Message - From: "Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 5:39 AM Subject: PESO - Norwegian skies Hi! http://www.photoforum.ru/photo/233521 Yet another thanks goes to Jostein for letting me use his excellent photo gear. Boris
Re: Request for help or advise. The critical mass is achieved...
iView does the 'offline' archiving very nicely. They also offer a free reader for browsing catalog file thumbnails so you can share catalogs easily without the recipients having to own the iView program. Godfrey On Nov 14, 2005, at 3:48 AM, Jostein wrote: When I made the choice, I landed on ThumbsPlus because of the support for "offline" archiving: the ability to retain thumbnails and search criteria for removable media. For all I know, this may be a fairly common feature by now. I recall that BB was way faster than everything at creating thumbnails.
Re: Compare Takumar 70-200 f/4 vs. SMC 70-210 f/4
On Nov 14, 2005, at 6:47 AM, Gaurav Aggarwal wrote: I use a Pentax 35-105 f/3.5 on my Pentax PZ-1 currently. I plan to compliment this lens with something like 70-200. I notice that there are two versions: SMC A 70-210 f/4 (which I believe has a very good reputation??) and the Takumar-A 70-200 f/4 Macro (how good is this??) The SMCP A70-210/4 Macro is excellent, although I found the lens a bit heavy/bulky for my uses. I have no experience with the Takumar alternative. Godfrey
Re: PESO: Democracy in Action
On Nov 14, 2005, at 6:29 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I know. What's humorous is that you recognized where the true interaction is taking place. Of course with that crop it would appear to be a photo of two men and one woman. Now that's democracy for ya. Godfrey
Re: PESO - Messy Crap, a Snap or a Keeper?
On 11/14/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I like messy, complex pictures, but the reason why this doesn't work for me > is that the different parts don't fit together or add to some common story or > mood. If you look at the more complicated pictures by Cartier-Bresson you > discover that some shapes or lines in the composition binds them together. > In colour you can use the occurance of some colour in the same way. > > I think it is pretty easy to simplify pictures, so the real challenge is to > add thing and still make it work. Well said, Dag. I agree. -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Compare Takumar 70-200 f/4 vs. SMC 70-210 f/4
Can certainly classify my SMC A 70~210 f/4 (macro)-58mm filter-as "very good." Not familiar with a Tak. "A" 70~200. There is, however, an A 70~210 f/4-5.6(?) -49mm filter. Have no performance info. An SMC A 80~200 -49mm filter-is currently being made, but have heard nothing about its performance. Hope my memory hasn't let me down again. Jack --- Gaurav Aggarwal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I use a Pentax 35-105 f/3.5 on my Pentax PZ-1 currently. I plan to > compliment this > lens with something like 70-200. I notice that there are two > versions: > > SMC A 70-210 f/4 (which I believe has a very good reputation??) > and the > Takumar-A 70-200 f/4 Macro (how good is this??) > > Any thoughts, comparisons, For-sale, suggestions? > > Thanks, > Gaurav > > __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Compare Takumar 70-200 f/4 vs. SMC 70-210 f/4
I have no experience with either lens but the takumar k mounts were a budget line lenses that didn't even have smc so I seriously doubt that the takumar could match let alone beat the A series lenses ... jco -Original Message- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 10:48 AM To: PDML Subject: Re: Compare Takumar 70-200 f/4 vs. SMC 70-210 f/4 On Nov 14, 2005, at 6:47 AM, Gaurav Aggarwal wrote: > I use a Pentax 35-105 f/3.5 on my Pentax PZ-1 currently. I plan to > compliment this lens with something like 70-200. I notice that there > are two versions: > > SMC A 70-210 f/4 (which I believe has a very good reputation??) and > the Takumar-A 70-200 f/4 Macro (how good is this??) The SMCP A70-210/4 Macro is excellent, although I found the lens a bit heavy/bulky for my uses. I have no experience with the Takumar alternative. Godfrey
Re: PESO - Messy, a Snap or a Keeper?
http://flickr.com/photos/fototim/62993610/ it needs a larger format, so for you with broadband or patience http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=62993610&size=o (230k) I have never thought of that C word as offensive. To me, it is not stronger than example, junk. But you being a native knows better than me. Thanks for the warning. I never thought of "crap" as offensive either. While this photo might have some value in context of a presentation saying something about the subject matter, standalone it has little to offer. Nothing stands out as a central theme or point of focus. The shadow areas are too dark, it seems uncoordinated. Godfrey
Re: PESO - Norwegian skies
Hi! > Nice shot Boris. > > Name of the lake is Vangsmjøsa, btw. > > I understand why you made this composition, it's a good trade-off > between the hill slopes and the elements around the lake. However, I > think the foreground vegetation in the lower left corner is breaking a > bit with the rest of the composition. Did you take a shot from a point > somewhat to the left of this position too? > > When Boris works the landscape, this is what he looks like: > > http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/267/display/4376394 Gee, and you dare show us half Tim and some of DagT... ;-) Now I don't have another shot unfortunately... But with negative this size I can probably crop off the bottom all together. -- Boris
Re: How to See a Tree (Arboreal Panoramas)
Cotty, Aside from isolated enclaves like the Muir Woods, the big'uns are all located in more northerly climes that average significantly more than 60-70 inches of rainfall per year, which is what the Santa Cruz Mountains generally gets. I don't know what else about the soil conditions and climate nets the massive size of these trees. I do remember the first time I drove north to Portland, Oregon. There was a point, somewhere between SF and Arcata along Highway 101, where all of a sudden the average height of the trees seems to quadruple in height. It was sudden and startling to me, at the time relatively new to the West Coast. Godfrey On Nov 14, 2005, at 6:50 AM, Cotty wrote: I understand Marnie. My point was that, although the interior of California can be very warm and dry, the coast is usually much cooler - hence, on a hot day in San Jose, it could be 96 degrees F, but take a 45 minute trip to Santa Cruz, and it's down into the mid-70s because of the cooling on-shore breeze. Typically, the air is much mope moist as well - voila le fog ;-)
RE: PESO - Messy, a Snap or a Keeper?
Yeah. I did. See you in Tombstone at dawn. Words will fly. How about this for a little up warming? Du er en steike trivelig kar! Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message- > From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 14. november 2005 15:53 > To: pentax list > Subject: Re: PESO - Messy, a Snap or a Keeper? > > On 14/11/05, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >I have never thought of that C word as offensive. To me, it is not > stronger > >than example, junk. But you being a native knows better than me. > >Thanks for the warning. > > More importantly, you used the 'S' word! > > You callin my stuff middle of the road :- > > > > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > ___/\__ > || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche > ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com > _ > > >
Re: PESO - Norwegian skies
- Original Message - From: "Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/cat/267/display/4376394 Gee, and you dare show us half Tim and some of DagT... ;-) Consider it a retaliation for the shots of me in the Mediteranean wash. :-) :-) Now I don't have another shot unfortunately... But with negative this size I can probably crop off the bottom all together. There'll be enough pixels left in the scan-) I think the foreground adds value too. The vegetation comment was nit-picking. As I said, I like it. I'm just not very good at commenting pictures that I would probably have taken precisely the same way myself... Jostein
Re: New world record for a Pentax screwmount 50mm?
P. J. Alling wrote: The ending price doesn't seem that out of line to me, I expected a price an order of magnitude higher... J. C. O'Connell wrote: This is incredible. I've never seen anything like this in terms of bidded price yet. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7560693734 jco Yes, especially, as the lens appears to have the highly-sought-after yellowing of the glass. http://www.hermes.net.au/bayling/repair.html -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc
RE: New world record for a Pentax screwmount 50mm?
The glass yellowing is no longer an issue, its easily cleared by a UV lamp in a few days Seems that old "repair" method is now obsolete. jco -Original Message- From: Derby Chang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 11:07 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: New world record for a Pentax screwmount 50mm? P. J. Alling wrote: > The ending price doesn't seem that out of line to me, I expected a > price an order of magnitude higher... > > J. C. O'Connell wrote: > >> This is incredible. I've never seen anything >> like this in terms of bidded price yet. >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7560693734 >> >> jco > Yes, especially, as the lens appears to have the highly-sought-after yellowing of the glass. http://www.hermes.net.au/bayling/repair.html -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc
Re: Request for help or advise. The critical mass is achieved...
- Original Message - From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> iView does the 'offline' archiving very nicely. They also offer a free reader for browsing catalog file thumbnails so you can share catalogs easily without the recipients having to own the iView program. Kinda guessed. iView wasn't available for Windows back then. Does iView support raw files? Jostein
RE: PESO - Norwegian skies
A nice captured scenery. Despite being a bit heave on the left side. I wasn't there, but I believe there has a bit colourcast leaning to magenta. I also find the landscape a lot more interesting than the skies. The dramatic, but still soft curves. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -Original Message- > From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 14. november 2005 05:39 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: PESO - Norwegian skies > > Hi! > > http://www.photoforum.ru/photo/233521 > > Yet another thanks goes to Jostein for letting me use his excellent > photo gear. > > Boris >
Re: Request for help or advise. The critical mass is achieved...
Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Nov 14, 2005, at 3:48 AM, Jostein wrote: > >> When I made the choice, I landed on ThumbsPlus because of the >> support for "offline" archiving: the ability to retain thumbnails >> and search criteria for removable media. For all I know, this may be >> a fairly common feature by now. I recall that BB was way faster than >> everything at creating thumbnails. >iView does the 'offline' archiving very nicely. They also offer a >free reader for browsing catalog file thumbnails so you can share >catalogs easily without the recipients having to own the iView program. iView is certainly good, from what I've heard, but it's a bit pricey for some people's budgets ($199.00). Thumbs Plus is $89.00 and works very well indeed. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: PESO: Democracy in Action
Actually the blond-haired one, seems to me more a man that a woman, are you sure he is a girl? Look at his/her arm and butt... don't they seem to belong to a man? Also judging by his face I would say he is a man. danilo.
Re: New world record for a Pentax screwmount 50mm?
Derby Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Yes, especially, as the lens appears to have the highly-sought-after >yellowing of the glass. > >http://www.hermes.net.au/bayling/repair.html I'll bet the owner of that web site feels a bit stupid now that the real cure for yellowing is known! (Not that "using the lens just for black & white film" wasn't *always* an option!) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Request for help or advise. The critical mass is achieved...
Jostein wrote on 14.11.05 17:22: > Does iView support raw files? Yes, but only in "pro" version. -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Modern PC hardware, Was: Re: Full Frame
It seems to me, that no one has yet replied to the original question: "should he change his CPU" >From my point of view: no. do you use some unix? if not you'll not use the 64bits. Even if you use it, it's not always true that a 64 bits COU is faster than a 32 one, in some cases it's slower. Then: His "dual core Athlon" is not a dual processor machine, it's a processor with two cores (I suppose they'll work in parallel doing some operation.) Don't know if windows can use it, though, but I think it's something the OS doesn't even know it is there. bottom line: save your money for some trip. ;) Danilo.
Re: Request for help or advise. The critical mass is achieved...
Sylwester Pietrzyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Jostein wrote on 14.11.05 17:22: > >> Does iView support raw files? >Yes, but only in "pro" version. And even then, it just displays the RAW files by showing you the embedded JPEG. Useful for identifying and cataloging your shots but not serious evaluation. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: OT: PESO One For Everyone
Hello Michael, My very first impression was a cross or statue silhouette. Looking just a little longer and it looks like a shadow of a childrens swingset apparatus. It does first grab you. -- Best regards, Bruce Sunday, November 13, 2005, 8:15:14 AM, you wrote: MS> I would really like to hear yuor critiques and notes. MS> Especially your first feeling about this photo MS> http://mishka.site.co.il/gallery/albums/Miscelaneous/IMG_1367.jpg MS> Also, did you recognize what is it ? MS> PS: it's OT since it's made with Canon. please forgive me :( but i MS> have no scanner any more :( MS> -- MS> Yours MS> Michael
Re: PESO - Man Sitting on a Bench
What's the message? John --- Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Taken along The Embarcadero in San Francisco last > October. Been meaning to > post this for some time. > > http://home.earthlink.net/~shel-pix/mansitting.html > > Low Tech Details - Sony DSC-S85, 8-bit TIFF, > Photoshop, and a wee dram of > Springbank 21 > > > Shel > "You meet the nicest people with a Pentax" > > >
Re: FA 28-105 Lenses
>> Any comments on the relative pluses and minuses of the three >> different FA >> 28-105 lenses? > Consensus from folks who've used all of them is that the latest one > (FA28-105/3.2-4.5 AL IF) is the most compact and the best performer. > It's inexpensive, new, for its quality. Thanks, Godfrey, for the info. Does anyone know if the black version of the FA 28-105/3.2-4.5 is available in the US? (B&H and Adorama seem to show just a silver version.) Thanks. Fred
Re: PESO - Messy Crap, a Snap or a Keeper?
Looks like multiple frames in one photograph. I like simple and complicated themes, just depends on what mood I'm in. John
Re: PESO - Norwegian skies
Yes, thank you from me too. John --- Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > http://www.photoforum.ru/photo/233521 > > Yet another thanks goes to Jostein for letting me > use his excellent > photo gear. > > Boris > >
FA 28-105 Lenses
I have used the original FA 28-105 power zoom. It is one of my favorites and I still use it frequently with my istD. I've even had it repaired by Pentax a couple of times and still works great. As a used lens it might be cheaper but it is heavier but not enough for me to change it for another. Mark Stringer _
Re: Request for help or advise. The critical mass is achieved...
On Nov 14, 2005, at 8:22 AM, Jostein wrote: iView does the 'offline' archiving very nicely. They also offer a free reader for browsing catalog file thumbnails so you can share catalogs easily without the recipients having to own the iView program. Kinda guessed. iView wasn't available for Windows back then. Does iView support raw files? iView MediaPro handles most RAW format files as well as DNG. It does fine with PEFs. Godfrey
Re: FA 28-105 Lenses
On Nov 14, 2005, at 9:21 AM, Fred wrote: Any comments on the relative pluses and minuses of the three different FA28-105 lenses? Consensus from folks who've used all of them is that the latest one (FA28-105/3.2-4.5 AL IF) is the most compact and the best performer. It's inexpensive, new, for its quality. Thanks, Godfrey, for the info. Does anyone know if the black version of the FA 28-105/3.2-4.5 is available in the US? (B&H and Adorama seem to show just a silver version.) Thanks. It's not officially offered in the US for some reason. Only the silver version. However, it can be had by ordering from Canada or the UK (at a higher price, of course). Godfrey
Re: Request for help or advise. The critical mass is achieved...
On Nov 14, 2005, at 9:01 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Sylwester Pietrzyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jostein wrote on 14.11.05 17:22: Does iView support raw files? Yes, but only in "pro" version. And even then, it just displays the RAW files by showing you the embedded JPEG. Useful for identifying and cataloging your shots but not serious evaluation. That's what ALL catalog thumbnail programs do, as far as I'm aware. Even BreezeBrowser, which is capable of doing RAW conversion, just shows you the preview JPEGs in the thumbnail view. Only Adobe's Bridge application calls the RAW converter to update the thumbnail display with a RAW converted version, live. Bridge is not particularly useful for cataloging archives and making thumbnail archives, however. Godfrey
Re: How to See a Tree (Arboreal Panoramas)
please forgive my typing today. one of the big considerations for redwoods - the coastal variety - sequoia sempiverens - is the community in which they live. wildlife, other trees, condition and type of soil all play a role in the health and growth of the coastal redwoods. in fact, many of the big trees create and support their own ecosystem, with lesser trees growing from them. one California Bay found in the canopy of an old-growth redwood in Redwood National Park is the highest recorded epiphytic tree in the world, growing out of a knothole in the redwood located almost 300 feet above the ground . redwoods need other redwoods around them in order to stimulate their vertical growth, which happens in great part as the trees compete for sunlight. they also need other redwoods around to help create their own climate which they do by blocking fog and extracting water from it. the trees absorb water through their leaves, and the water extracted from the fog rains, or more precisely, drips to the forest floor, adding moisture to the soil. temperatures along the redwood coast are not as extreme as those you mentioned. the number and types of insects in the soil contribute to the unique environment of a redwood forest. there are some which cannot be found outside of a healthy forest - in fact, while not an insect, there's a particular type of salamander which lives in the forest that is found nowhere else on earth. the type, variety, and abundance of these creatures contributes to the health of the forest. a walk through a redwood forest is unique as you'll find the ground to be a little "springy." that's the layer of duff that you'd be walking on. the duff is comprised to a great extent of fallen and decaying redwood leaves as well as vegetable matter from the other trees and plants in the forest - many of which wouldn't grow were it not for the canopy of shade and the moisture produced by the trees. the duff serves as a blanket to help regulate soil temperature, which is important because the redwood, unlike other coniferous trees, is shallow-rooted. the duff also contributes to holding needed moisture in the soil, and, as it decays provides nutrients for the redwood trees and other plants and trees. the coastal redwood forest is a very complex environment. one or two trees growing in Bath will never have such an environment, and will never attain the stature of these old giants. and let's not forget the operative word here - old. the biggest trees started growing as many as 2000 years ago. the environment was much different then - studies have shown that the ideal climate for coastal redwoods has been shrinking - and these giants have had a stronger head start than the displaced trees in Bath have had. BTW, I've not mentioned the giant sequoia - sequoiadendron giganteum - that grows in the sierras. it's a different tree and, iirc, not even related to the sequoia sempiverens along the coast. i hope this helps. there's a lot more to the forest than meets the eye ;-)) Shel "You meet the nicest people with a Pentax" > [Original Message] > From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: pentax list > Date: 11/14/2005 6:16:09 AM > Subject: Re: How to See a Tree (Arboreal Panoramas) > > On 14/11/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >and they never will be since the conditions where they are growing are > >radically different than those in their natural environment. > > Hi Shel, > > In what way are the conditions radically different? > > IIRC there are plenty of Redwoods at Big Sur, for instance. The > Californian coast is not totally dissimilar to the climate in the UK. > Note that we are on a similar lattitude to New York and Montreal, but we > do not get anywhere near the low temperatures they do. On a mid-winter's > frosty night, I would expect -8 deg C as pretty much about as low as it > goes, and nowhere near this on the coast. With Atlantic low pressure > systems come prevailing north-westerlies, westerlies, and south- > westerlies, keeping temperatures up into double figures for prolonged > spells. In the spring and autumn, daytime highs of 12 deg C are typical, > and in the summer one would expect anywhere between 19 and 24 deg C as > average. Heatwaves bring 30 deg C for a week or so. > > We are very much governed by the Atlantic, with occasional input from > the Arctic (northerlies) or Siberia (easterlies). The UK is an island > that benefits from both the gulf stream and warm moist water from the > Caribbean (called the Atlantic Conveyor). > > I would have thought that many forms of vegetation open to Pacific > weather systems would also be suitable here
Re: How to See a Tree (Arboreal Panoramas)
WOW! Thanks a lot for posting the link this way. Previously, I wasn't ableto see the verzion with the "zoom" magnifying glass, and I didn't evennotice the person near the top of the tree. Very impressive piece of work! On 11/13/05, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Hi Cotty,>> Go here: http://www.jamesbalog.com/ and click on the "TREES" tab at the top> of the page. Jack didn't quote all the URL's I posted.>
Re: PESO(s): Two fall shots from Pittsburgh
On 11/12/05, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've been so busy with work for school projects that I've barely had any time to shoot photos for myself lately. I managed to get a couple in today. Two contrasting impressions of a fall day in the 'Burgh. http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm I like both of these photos, Mark, but I would prefer if the left one were rotated CW to level it. It seems to be turning to the left to my eye, throwing it off balance. Godfrey
Re: OT: Robert Frank Exhibit
Be interesting to see this. Unfortunately, Toronto is a bit of a trip, even from NYC ... I'll be in NYC for about 9 days coming up soon (the Turkey holiday, you see...). Godfrey On Nov 13, 2005, at 7:11 AM, frank theriault wrote: While we're on to exhibits, I took in a Robert Frank exhibit here in Toronto yesterday, at the Steven Bulger Gallery on Queen West (for any locals who are interested). The show was called Robert Frank in Canada. It wasn't at all what I expected! He's been spending many months a year in Mabou, Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia, Canada since the late 60's or early 70's. There were about 1/2 dozen works, all photo-collages, taken with a disposable camera called a Logo (I think) back in the early 70's. These cameras were the type that you bought with film already in them, then sent off to the manufacturer to get the film developed (I don't think local labs could do it), and you got your prints and a fully loaded camera by return mail. Anyway, the photo and print quality was what one would expect, but that didn't make any difference in this case. Really interesting stuff. As one commentator said, very filmic, and quite the opposite of "decisive moment". As I said, not what I expected, but well worth the while of anyone in the area to go see.
RE: PESO - Norwegian skies
nice ... pleasant ... Shel "You meet the nicest people with a Pentax" > [Original Message] > From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Date: 11/13/2005 8:48:22 PM > Subject: PESO - Norwegian skies > > Hi! > > http://www.photoforum.ru/photo/233521 > > Yet another thanks goes to Jostein for letting me use his excellent > photo gear. > > Boris
Re: How to See a Tree (Arboreal Panoramas)
On 14/11/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: >There was a point, somewhere between SF >and Arcata along Highway 101, where all of a sudden the average >height of the trees seems to quadruple in height. It was sudden and >startling to me, at the time relatively new to the West Coast. You sure you weren't getting smaller...? ;-)) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Request for help or advise. The critical mass is achieved...
Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Nov 14, 2005, at 9:01 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: >> Sylwester Pietrzyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Jostein wrote on 14.11.05 17:22: Does iView support raw files? >>> Yes, but only in "pro" version. >> >> And even then, it just displays the RAW files by showing you the >> embedded JPEG. Useful for identifying and cataloging your shots but >> not serious evaluation. > >That's what ALL catalog thumbnail programs do, as far as I'm aware. >Even BreezeBrowser, which is capable of doing RAW conversion, just >shows you the preview JPEGs in the thumbnail view. I think Thumbs Plus does real RAW previews. I know it does RAW conversions (even batch conversion) and will display full-size RAW images. It has its own built-in RAW converter. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: PESO - A Couple of Guys on the Town
couple of questions. does not hiring union help mean the BMG is anti-union? does the group follow this practice in the other venues in which they perform - six or seven other, iirc? maybe - and i'm not taking a position one way or another on this - this was a toronto only situation. Shel "You meet the nicest people with a Pentax" > [Original Message] > From: frank theriault > But, that's not what my button (and I) are protesting. They came into > Toronto this year, rented an old theatre and purpose-renovated it for > their show. Problem is, they've refused to hire union workers. > Toronto's a union town, and IMHO, they should really respect that, and > hire union. > > Now, I understand that they have every right to hire non-union. > However, I have every right disagree with them, and to voice that > disagreement, and to inform others of their decision to hire not hire > union. I have no problem with anyone who goes to see their show; > that's a personal decision. However, I think that everyone should at > least be aware of BMG's anti-union position.
Re: How to See a Tree (Arboreal Panoramas)
On 14/11/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed: >i hope this helps. there's a lot more to the forest than meets the eye ;-)) Thanks for the redwood primer Shel - very interesting! I've learned a lot, thanks. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO - Man Sitting on a Bench
That's the great thing about art. The message can be anything you want it to be. And yes, Shel, this one is art. -Mat On 11/14/05, John Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's the message? > > John
Pensung DSLR
Hi, It seems the new "Samsung" DSLR will be announced in January, next year. I don't know more details, just wanted to share this info. -- Best regards, Alex Sarbu
Re: Request for help or advise. The critical mass is achieved...
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Boris Liberman" Subject: Request for help or advise. The critical mass is achieved... Hi! I have 4000+ PEF files, and 3 years worth of film shooting (1 film a week or so)... I have to devise a way to catalog the whole darn bunch. What kind of system/program/solution you use? When I remember, I back my stuff up onto a CD, or more likely a DVD. I don't catalogue them or anything like that. I figure it would be the height of arrogance to think my pictures were worthy of more effort than that. William Robb Question. Do you never want to go back and find any particular photograph or group of photographs? If you don't, why keep them at all? If you do, how can you possibly recall what you put on more than 2 or 3 CD's or worse, DVD's? keith whaley
Re: Full Frame
J. C. O'Connell wrote on 14.11.05 10:44: > Is this light falloff in the corners being seen with > FULL FRAME 35mm lenses on APS sensors? If so that's pretty > severe vignettingEither that or the contrast index > with the sensor must me very high with the processing I haven't seen light faloff with FF lenses that I've used with APS-C sensor. -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: PESO - Autumn or Winter?
Quoting David Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Nov 14, 2005, at 2:31 AM, Jostein wrote: > > > - Original Message - From: "mike wilson" > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> Har! And does Ryanair form any part of this plan?? > >> Good job I bought that shed! > >> 8-))) > > > > Why? You can't possibly mean to bring it on the ferry? > > I guess we have to call him Mike "two sheds" Wilson from now on. > > - Dave Um... Does the ferry qualify as a water-shed? :-) Jostein This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: Request for help or advise. The critical mass is achieved...
Hi Boris, Godfrey mentioned iView. That's one of the serious contenders. Here's two more: BreezeBrowser: www.breezebrowser.com ThumbsPlus: www.cerious.com When I made the choice, I landed on ThumbsPlus because of the support for "offline" archiving: the ability to retain thumbnails and search criteria for removable media. For all I know, this may be a fairly common feature by now. I recall that BB was way faster than everything at creating thumbnails. Jostein Quoting Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi! > > I have 4000+ PEF files, and 3 years worth of film shooting (1 film a > week or so)... I have to devise a way to catalog the whole darn bunch. > > What kind of system/program/solution you use? > > I know this has been discussed previously, so I would appreciate if we > could just stick to facts and names... > > Thanks in advance. > > Boris-the-disorganized. > > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: Full Frame
On 14 Nov 2005 at 10:33, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: > Rob Studdert wrote on 14.11.05 0:14: > > > Yes, for instance the PS RAW convertor has fall-off compensation and a > > facility > > for storing and recall of lens correction parameters (vignetting and CA). > > And > > there are several other stand-alone and PS plug-in tools that can do the > > same > > such as PTLens. It's not such a big deal really. > Yes, of course, and finally we will spend much more time correcting > sensor/lenses flaws than taking photos :-))) Maybe for some people but I have a very useful set of lens correction files that I've saved along the way so it's no more work actually and I'm optimizing the performance of my lenses to the limits of the camera. It can oly get better from here :-) Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: PESO - Norwegian skies
Picture perfect. Make a postcard out of it or hang it on the wall. On 11/13/05, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > http://www.photoforum.ru/photo/233521 > > Yet another thanks goes to Jostein for letting me use his excellent > photo gear. > > Boris > >
RE: Full Frame
Is this light falloff in the corners being seen with FULL FRAME 35mm lenses on APS sensors? If so that's pretty severe vignettingEither that or the contrast index with the sensor must me very high with the processing in use. jco -Original Message- From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 4:33 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Full Frame Rob Studdert wrote on 14.11.05 0:14: > Yes, for instance the PS RAW convertor has fall-off compensation and a > facility for storing and recall of lens correction parameters > (vignetting and CA). And there are several other stand-alone and PS > plug-in tools that can do the same such as PTLens. It's not such a big > deal really. Yes, of course, and finally we will spend much more time correcting sensor/lenses flaws than taking photos :-))) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: I'm back (Sort of) and an FA28-70/4 question
i don't think the 24-90 is especially sharp either. Herb - Original Message - From: "Jim King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 2:02 AM Subject: Re: I'm back (Sort of) and an FA28-70/4 question My experience with this lens on my D is disappointing also. While it's not a basket case, it's nowhere near as sharp as my FA24-90. I carefully checked for element separation but can't see any evidence of it. FWIW, my copy was made in Japan.
Re: Full Frame
Rob Studdert wrote on 14.11.05 13:55: > Maybe for some people but I have a very useful set of lens correction files > that I've saved along the way so it's no more work actually and I'm optimizing > the performance of my lenses to the limits of the camera. It can oly get > better > from here :-) So prepare to do some business and sell these profiles to PDMLers as soon as Pentax shows FF DSLR :-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
Re: Modern PC hardware, Was: Re: Full Frame
Danilo, a dual-core CPU has two processors sharing a Die and memory interface. For all intents and purposes it is a dual-CPU SMP system and the OS will see the seperate processors and treat it as such. This isn't just a scheduling hack like Hyperthreading (Which also shows up as 2 CPU's to the OS, but is actually one with the Scheduler faking it, for mild but noticable speed boosts) Windows XP Pro will be aware of both cores and will use them as individual processors. XP Pro is fully SMP aware, not sure about Home, but I think even Home can do 2 CPU or Core SMP. -Adam danilo wrote: It seems to me, that no one has yet replied to the original question: "should he change his CPU" From my point of view: no. do you use some unix? if not you'll not use the 64bits. Even if you use it, it's not always true that a 64 bits COU is faster than a 32 one, in some cases it's slower. Then: His "dual core Athlon" is not a dual processor machine, it's a processor with two cores (I suppose they'll work in parallel doing some operation.) Don't know if windows can use it, though, but I think it's something the OS doesn't even know it is there. bottom line: save your money for some trip. ;) Danilo.
Re: PESO - Messy, a Snap or a Keeper?
On 14/11/05, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed: >Yeah. I did. See you in Tombstone at dawn. >Words will fly. >How about this for a little up warming? >Du er en steike trivelig kar! Thems fightin words. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Request for help or advise. The critical mass is achieved...
On Nov 14, 2005, at 10:04 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: I think Thumbs Plus does real RAW previews. I know it does RAW conversions (even batch conversion) and will display full-size RAW images. It has its own built-in RAW converter. Just looked it up. Thumbs Plus Professional Edition v7 can do RAW if you download and install the RAW converter plug-in. The RAW converter plug-in can do updated thumbnails with the RAW converter. Per the release notes on http://www.cerious.com/digicam_notes.shtml, the default is to use the embedded JPEG Preview and thumbnail files, but you can turn on the RAW processing for these renderings. Nice feature, $90 is an excellent price for the Pro Edition. Now if they would have the sense to produce a Mac OS X version, I'd be happy. ;-) My present workflow goes this way: - Download PEF - Convert to DNG with DNG converter (that updates the JPEG preview/thumbnail) - View, sort and rough in RAW parameters with Bridge (that updates the preview/thumbnails) - Catalog DNGs with iView once in the archive (which sucks in the current preview/thumbnails) That way I have the advantage of using roughed in ACR settings from Bridge in the catalogs. Bridge is excellent for sorting, setting up RAW parameters, processing big bunches of files into .PSD originals. I have Camera Raw set up with defaults that let me see what my base exposures look like in Bridge, that lets me grab groups of images with similar adjustment needs and do rough out adjustments quickly. The thumbnail/preview output from DNG Converter looks similar to using Bridge and ACR 3.1 with adjustment controls set to "Auto". That's remarkably close for a lot of cases. iView MediaPro is then excellent for producing the thumbnail catalogs, and the thumbnails reflect what I expect to see in the final work pretty closely. Godfrey
PESO: Transit Strike
A couple of weeks ago we had a transit strike here in Philadelphia. On my route to work, there is a plaza where five trolley (tram) lines converge, and go underground for the last 5km to the center of the city. I stopped on my way home and photographed the strange scene of silent trolleys, left by their drivers at 12:01 am, in a plaza closed off by temporary cyclone fencing and devoid of the usual crowd of passengers. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3878335 A companion photo has the trolleys in focus and the fence out of focus, but I think I like this one better. PZ-1p, FA24-90, Elite Chrome 100, exposure unrecorded. Comments invited. Rick __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
